How Did This Get Made? - Last Looks: Date with an Angel

Episode Date: February 20, 2026

The discord fan-picked movie poll results are finally revealed! But first, Jason & Paul chat about Wonder Man and other TV shows they're currently loving, Paul answers all your corrections & omissions... on Date with an Angel, and we play a bonus deleted scene from the Date with an Angel live show.   PAUL & JASON'S RECS: Wonder Man Sarah Squirm: Live + in the Flesh The Fall and Rise of Reggie Dinkins 30 Rock Girls5Eva Astro City by Kurt Busiek • Go to hdtgm.com for tour dates, merch, FAQs, and more• Have a Last Looks correction or omission? Call 619-PAULASK to leave us a voicemail!• Submit your Last Looks theme song to us here• Join the HDTGM conversation on Discord: discord.gg/hdtgm• Buy merch at howdidthisgetmade.dashery.com/• Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of Trauma• Shop our new hat collection at podswag.com• Paul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheer• Paul’s YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheer• Follow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer• Subscribe to Enter The Dark Web w/ Paul & Rob Huebel: youtube.com/@enterthedarkweb• Listen to Unspooled with Paul & Amy Nicholson: unspooledpodcast.com• Listen to The Deep Dive with June & Jessica St. Clair: thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcast• Instagram: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & @junediane• Twitter: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & msjunediane  • Jason is not on social media• Episode transcripts available at how-did-this-get-made.simplecast.com/episodesGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Is a tumor our new Jacob's Ladder? What do Burgess Meredith Boobes look like? And the controversial discord vote that tried to trick us, but wound up messing you all up. That's right. All this and more on today's How Did This Get Made Last Looks? Hit the theme! You called Paul. Hey, Paul.
Starting point is 00:00:23 To talk about a movie you saw. Maybe you were truly appalled, or maybe you enjoyed the film and you're a dubious all. Last looks. Looks, looks, the last looks. Smoochie, Smoochie, whenever you read your last book, it's a podcast, how did this get made, and this is Go Van Gogh show.
Starting point is 00:00:36 Let's get paid. The last looks, last looks, last looks, looks, looks, what's the last looks? Smoochie, no, I am not an angel obsessed with kissing. It's me, your host, Paul Shear, and welcome to How Did This Get Made, Last Looks, where you, the listener, get to voice your issue on
Starting point is 00:00:53 Date with an Angel, a movie that Discord user Ghostbag thinks should have had the tagline date with an angel. It is a tumor. I love it. I love a little kindergarten cop date with an angel mashup. That's the kind of quality work here that we all need to be doing. So thank you, Ghostbag for that. And yes, you did just remind me that this is a movie that asks the age-old question, does the main character have a brain tumor? Maybe that's our new Jacobs Ladder in this show. A big shout out to Go Van Gogh for that opening theme song. Remember, if you have an alt movie tagline or title,
Starting point is 00:01:34 submit it to us on our Discord at discord.g. g slash HDTGM. And if you have a Last Looks theme song, go to hditgm.com and click on the submit a song button on our homepage. Remember, keep them short, 15 to 20 seconds is best. Coming up on today's episode, we'll be hearing all your corrections and omissions on date with an angel. And I'll even share an exclusive deleted scene from our Date with an Angel episode.
Starting point is 00:01:57 then Jason will join me to chat about all the TV shows that we are currently loving, especially Wonder Man. And as always, I will announce the movie for next week's episode, which also happens to be the winner of our recent Discord fan poll. That's right. You voted. We watched. We were upset. And I'll tell you, there was a lot of drama around this voting process. We're going to get into it on the main episode. But I'm also going to break it to. down here as well. Dinosaur Improv will be at Largo on February 28th. It's a Saturday come out. Nicole Beyer, E.D. Patterson, Danielle Schneider, Rob Puebel, myself.
Starting point is 00:02:39 It is going to be a great big show. I want to say thank you to everybody who is still getting autographed books, hardcoverers and paperbacks of Joyful Recollections of Trauma. You can always just go right to my website and order the books right there and you help support a local bookstore, Chevaliers, which is the oldest bookstore in Los Angeles. I don't get any money from it. I just do it because I love Chevaliers. They are the absolute best. And if you've not watched yet, my Taylor Swift mini-doc is available right on my home page. I made a little mini-doc about Taylor Swift. Yeah, look at that. I make stuff. Anyway,
Starting point is 00:03:14 enough with the plugs. Let's get into it. Last week, we talked at length about date with an angel. We had questions. And we might have even missed a few things. Here is your chance to set a straight. fact check us, if you will. It is now time for corrections and omissions. Corrections and omissions. Corrections and omissions. Corrections and omissions with all John Foulding. Thank you, John Foulding for that theme song.
Starting point is 00:03:59 I love that. All right. So there's a lot to get into for a movie that, We did so long ago that I barely remember. So I'm glad that this first Discord comment is about a very specific scene, so specific that I needed to pull a video reference to even have a take on it. All right. So the chap writes, can we talk about Tad's attempt at mouth-to-mouth resuscitation? This dude awkwardly leans in for the usual movie trope of a kiss-like mouth-to-mouth, but then pulls up, turns his egg.
Starting point is 00:04:35 completely away from her and gives a huge exhale towards nothing. He then repeats this. Now, isn't the whole point of mouth to mouth to exhale into the other person's lungs forcing their chest to rise and their lungs to expand? I mean, what is going on here? I mean, I think that's the only thing I could put together. He thought that he was like kind of helping take extra air out. Look, it was it was the 80s. We didn't know from CPR, right? way, wrong way. He was doing it his way. Maybe for the simplest explanation for Tad's mouth-to-mouth fail, we can go back to the Discord where Archmedes returns to Oz wrote, blame the tumor. You know what? Yeah, whenever we don't understand anything in this movie, we are going to blame the tumor.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Mitch Kappa, Chunk style, writes, a bit of justice for Tad. You guys thought it was crazy how he, you know, the morning after his bachelor party, he smelled his finger to check, did something inappropriate? it happened with that blowup doll the night before. But Mitch Kappa once pointed out, it wasn't about the doll. No, the pool water had rushed in all over the floor and he was just smelling his wet hand to check what is this liquid. Huh. I don't know if that gives us full justice for Tad there.
Starting point is 00:05:56 I feel like it's still, I mean, I guess, I guess. What if it was pee? He was still sniffing his hand to figure out what was on it. It could have been from anything. I don't think it was, if he knew it was the pool water, he wouldn't have sniffed his finger. He would have said, oh, it's pool water, right? Come on, Mitch. Let's go to the phones.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Alwyn from London. What do you got? Hi, Paul. This is Olwin. I just listened to the Date with an Angel episode, and you make a joke about a song called Angel and Footflops. Just wanted to let you know, in case you didn't already, that Angel and Footflops is actually the fake song written by one of the characters and only murder from the building. It's the song that they use to justify why he gets so many random royalties and can still live in the fancy building in New York. So, yeah, that is Steve Martin's character song, Angel and Footfalls from Only Murders from the Building, which you can find on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Well, first of all, you don't have to lecture me about Only Murders in the Building. I love Only Murders in the Building. So much so that I am going to correct you on this fact. The reason why Steve Martin is rich in that show is because of Brazos. And then the subsequent, like, reboot of Brazos. But I was going to say the song that you were talking about, Angel and Philbops, yes, that was on the show as well. But that show was never a hit. It was like, I believe a song that only came out in Germany and then the Berlin Wall fell.
Starting point is 00:07:20 And then that, like, prevented him from becoming, like, a big music star. I believe that was the premise of that joke. Wow. Why do I know all of this? but they did actually release that song. Now I Googled this to accompany the show and there's a music video. So you can watch the entire animated angel and flip-flops. But I believe now as I'm looking at it even more here, it only reached 83 on the charts.
Starting point is 00:07:49 So did not make a lot of money from that. So I am going to see your fact and throw it back in your face. Luke, what do you got? This is Luke. Just looked into the David and Angel Live show And I'm not sure this is the kind of thing That came up during a show
Starting point is 00:08:06 It was just tough for time But you guys are talking about how similar This is the splash In the fact that it's about You know, this kind of other world A good preacher who doesn't understand In our world and is either attractive And suddenly appears here
Starting point is 00:08:18 And basically falls in love with the first person they see Just because They're the first person they see They don't really realize they could Or they could get somebody better I just kind of wanted to know what there is an name for this trope. It is called Born Sexy Yesterday. And in addition to flash, some other prominent examples are Thick Elements,
Starting point is 00:08:42 how does this get made in a classic, a very anti-Christmas, hot frosty, basically any Christmas movie where the cricket decoration come to life and then start dating somebody. So anyways, just wanted to put that out there for you and your listeners, for me to take it like what these movies are bad, or if they're into them, I'd have to look it up and find more of them. Anyways, calculator, kisses. I love this term.
Starting point is 00:09:08 I have been obsessed with this born, sexy, yesterday idea. Yeah, it's basically, yeah, robots, mermaids, like what was it, Tron, and you mentioned all the ones, right? It basically makes mansplaining okay. I think that's the whole reason behind behind this, right? It's like men can then talk to pretty women and feel incredibly superior to them and not be in awe of their beauty.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Like they're like, oh, well, you may be beautiful, but you're fucking idiot. You need me. Yeah, it's a great trope. Thank you, Luke, for making sure that we now have the name for it. Galen from L.A., what do you got? Hey, Paul. This is Galen from Los Angeles. A little detail on our beloved love bug.
Starting point is 00:10:01 The actor Tony Ratano, whose only other major credit, film credit, was Angels in the Outfield seven years later, where he played the singing umpire. So that's an acting career defined by playing singing characters in PG-rated angel movies, angel comedy. that is quite a legacy if he asked me. All right, thanks so much. Bye. Ooh, I like that. Galen, there we go. That's great.
Starting point is 00:10:35 A little fun fact for you. Angel and the Outfield. Love that movie. But that the one? No. Angels in the Outfield, is Christopher Lloyd one right where you please? Yes, okay.
Starting point is 00:10:42 I do love that movie. All right. Now, we had one last call from Jack in Wisconsin, but the call kept on cutting out. So we're just kind of paraphrase it. I'm sorry, Jack. Call when you have a better connection. Jack says,
Starting point is 00:10:55 roughly. In this episode, you and June told a story about being disappointed when the personal sushi chef who cooked for you ended up being white. That this and story inspire the episode of the league where Timothy Oliphant played a white sushi chef who acts Japanese. As a matter of fact, no. I believe that that was something that was inspired by one of the creators of the show. We definitely spoke about that. But I'm not taking any credit for that whatsoever. I believe that was something that happened to Jeff. Jackie. We also had that experience in Hawaii one time. And I got to tell you, you know, I don't want to, I don't want to be racist. I don't want to be a, I like a Japanese sushi chef, but we met a guy in Hawaii. He was serving sushi. And I got to say the sushi was delicious. I judged a book by its cover. I actually think in a weird way, the white chefs work harder. because they know that they have an uphill battle of being a white chef next to a bunch of Japanese men and women. Anyway, back to the Discord. I hope I don't get in trouble for that opinion.
Starting point is 00:12:07 I'm just having fun with y'all. You know, at times are weird. You never know what's going to get taken out of context. Anyway, back to the Discord. Sparkle O.O., writes, was anyone else struck by the parallels to Passion Play, the Megan Fox Mickey Rourke movie, covered on the pod last year? You don't got to remind us about Passion Play.
Starting point is 00:12:25 We love Passion Play. I would say Passion Play, yes, you're right, is another born sexy yesterday movie. In both movies, a man discovers an angel who cannot fly, and neither movie is at all interested in the theological or scientific implications of angels existing. The man must protect her from forces that want to exploit her looks for commercial gain. The angel regains the ability to fly just in time to thwart, iron pursuers, and at the end, it's revealed that the man was either dead or dying during the event. of the film. Wow. Are you telling me, there's a lawsuit brewing? Should we have a lawsuit brewing between the writer of Passion Play and date with an angel? You know what? I say bring it. I say let's get an old ass lawsuit out. Sue it now. Don't be like the guy who sued Top Gun like a year after the movie came out. I say sue this movie way after. I mean, I guess it would be the
Starting point is 00:13:23 date with an angel people suing Passion Play. and it feels like the money wouldn't be great on either side of it. But let's get an old lawsuit out so we can break down why these angel movies are so similar. Meanwhile, angels in the outfield, they really did jump into the theological ramifications of what angels in baseball, what that meant. Anyway, we'll close out things with not a correction or a mission, but with a personal story from D.K. and Phil. Paul's experience of being shown Class of the Titans as a kid in school resonated with me so hard. I think in sixth grade, a substitute teacher played it for my class two, and I remember the nude scene vividly because it was so shocking to see breasts in my middle school classroom. I wasn't paying attention to the movie except for that scene, but I naturally wanted to know whose real-life boobs I saw, so I paid careful attention to the credits.
Starting point is 00:14:16 However, I couldn't remember the character's name, so I just looked for the names of female actresses. I have no idea why, but for some reason, I thought that Burgess Meredith was a woman. And I remember walking out of class thinking to myself, wow, I saw Burgess Mird's boobs. Holy cow. You know, normally we just give a correction and omission to someone who brings up a great fact. But I got to say, anyone who can go toe to toe with me with a Paul Shear story is going to be the winner today. Yeah, seeing Burgess Mardis Boobes is the winner. winner. And you know what? You don't get anything, but you do get this amazing song from Bears in
Starting point is 00:14:57 Love. Hit it! I love that song, by the way. Bears in Love. That's good. If you want to chime in with your own thoughts about the latest episode, hit up our Discord or call us at 619, P-A-U-L-A-S-K. All right, coming up after the break, Jason will stop by to chat about all the TV shows that we are watching and loving. We got some great wrecks for you. But first, take a listen to this bonus-deleted scene from our date with an angel show where June makes fun of me for scanning a QR code wrong at a restaurant the night before the show. I remember this embarrassment. Take a listen. I gave you a review of the ordering process? I will say, Paul.
Starting point is 00:15:42 We did go to a restaurant last night, and there was a little placard. You know, there's no menus anymore. She's going to burn me now. No menus anymore. She's really pissing me off. And so we had to pull up the QR code. and Paul, you did say to the waitress, I'm just on the review page.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Well, because, all right. Meaning that's what it, the QR code thanks to as well. It was what it was, right? It was like, you know, like one of those things that you put on a table in a bar where it's like the bar specials are on it, right? So it's a small little thing on the table.
Starting point is 00:16:15 And there was, it said menu, a barcode, barcode. One on top, one on bottom. So I scanned the barcode. She said, no, no, no, you scan the review barcode. That's the menu barcode. I'm like, Why I have two barcodes on top of each other?
Starting point is 00:16:31 Honestly, shame on that restaurant. How dare you give me a way to review before I've even gotten to the meal? It's like... That's what this reviewer felt. How often are you asked to review the restaurant ever in general? And I'm like, I'm just trying to order.
Starting point is 00:16:49 I'm like, which one? My phone is catching one of them. I'm not like, oh, hold on. You know, it's like, just keep it separate people. Meanwhile, they are now fully in your data. That restaurant has complete access to everything you're up. They have spent all, they took over my visa card. Oh, weird.
Starting point is 00:17:05 God damn it. All right, we are back. And remember, every week we are pulling old episodes out of the back catalog. Yes, out from behind, not even a paywall. We just don't even have a paywall. We should, right? That's what most people do. They try to monetize things.
Starting point is 00:17:26 We don't really do that. Anyway, these matinee episodes have been a blast to listen to. Last week, we focused on Double Dragon. Keep on checking out all of the replays of our classic episodes every Tuesday. And without any further ado, it is now time to welcome Jason to Last Looks for Little Just Chat. Tomic Waters. What do you got? We're going to have ourselves a conversation.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Just chat. No quarantine or vaccination. Just chat. Paul and Jason A couple of cats Just chat Just chat Just chat
Starting point is 00:18:03 Shubby do Bu Bo Bo Bo Bo Bo Bo Bo Bo Bo Bo Jason Great to talk to you And finally We get to celebrate Date with an Angel A movie that we recorded
Starting point is 00:18:13 So many years ago I mean this is a time capsule This episode is a time capsule Like this is time travel From a Like boy Remember when we were innocent Remember
Starting point is 00:18:24 Remember two years ago when we were in Minnesota. Well, you know what's so interesting is, like, we record these episodes, and I feel like we've done them, and then certain fans keep track of what has not been released. For a while, the Swordfish episode was an episode that was not released. And what happened? What's the drama behind it? And we try very hard not to release episodes that you can't have access to watching.
Starting point is 00:18:47 We don't want you to have to, like, pay money if you don't have to, like, to rent a movie or it that isn't available even to do that. Right. That was the thing. Like, this movie was just not available. So a lot of the times, we are just constantly scanning these services to make sure that from when we did it to when we release it, like somehow this fell in a little bit of a gap. I think it was going to come off whatever services it was on.
Starting point is 00:19:09 I know that I've talked to the director a handful of times, and he is doing a DVD release of it. A lovely guy. That's a huge reveal. Yes. He has written me a handful of times. We've talked about some stuff, and he wanted to have some kind of collaboration, which, by way, I can say that unofficially or maybe officially, I can say that we are doing a fun collaboration with Rad, the BMX movie. We have a really fun thing coming up with them. We'll talk about that more
Starting point is 00:19:36 when that is going to be released and by whom. But suffice it to say, we will be racing BMX bikes. That's all you need to know. Jason and I have been training. Training. Training. Getting those hard. Up, up, up. Oh, yeah. Paul does the pedaling and I'm standing behind him on the pegs. It looks good. It looks great. It looks great. You know, last time we talked, we got to only speak about a few things that we like, and I feel like everybody's been asking, and I've been wanting to talk to you about this, but Wonder Man, Wonder Man, the new Marvel show. Now, full disclosure, I'm only halfway through the season. Great. I don't think we should reveal that much. I will tell you this. I don't either. That during the pandemic, my friend Andrew Guest,
Starting point is 00:20:20 who is the showrunner of... Oh, yeah. He was brought on to Hawkeye. And he kind of got in the Marvel world. And I really loved the Hawkeye series and how what they did with Hawkeye. He got tasked with bringing this show to life. And he showed me early cuts. I got to see, I had to sign so many NDAs. It was amazing. And I got to read the scripts.
Starting point is 00:20:42 And when I saw it, I've been talking this show up for such a long time, just quietly to people, because it is unlike anything in the Marvel world. It feels like an FX show, kind of like what Legion was in the sense that it's completely in its own thing. Now, yes, there are. characters that come in, like Ben Kingsley is great. But it's like a lethal, it's like it has a lethal weapon kind of vibe to it in the sense it's buddy cop thing. And I'm saying this to the audience.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Like if you are not keeping up with Marvel, it doesn't matter. No. It doesn't matter at all. You don't need to know about multiverses. You don't need to know about Loki's stuff. You don't need to. This is a slice of life for this one character, Simon. Simon West.
Starting point is 00:21:25 I was going to ask what I almost said, too, but that's the guy who made Conair. Yes. But his name is Simon, and he's a good guy. It's so good. Simon Williams. Simon Williams, thank you. And it's, what's his name, Yahya Abdul Mateen from our beloved ambulance. I believe he was in the Michael Baylorian.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Yes, he was. Yes, yes. And he is, what I love about this is he's a struggling actor in L.A. And the show is really about the kind of. constant ego death of a struggling actor in L.A. who secretly has superpowers that you really do not really get access to. It's not a swaggery kind of, you know, it is, it's a character study. Well, here's what I will say. I have not started again, because I've watched and I read a bunch, and I have to go back in and seek. I know things were reordered, but have you gotten to see the day
Starting point is 00:22:21 that he goes on set when he's got a bit part in a TV show yet? and horror story? Yes. Yes. Incredible. That is truly one of the... Oh, it is so uncomfortable. Yes.
Starting point is 00:22:34 And so hilarious. Oh, yeah. It gets me. It's so beautifully done. It's so fucking beautifully done. It's so, he's such a phenomenal actor at portraying. Again, this is someone who has like Omega level powers. Yes.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Who is so cripplingly insecure as an actor and that that is just, He cannot get out of his own way. He does an incredible job portraying this character. And Ben Kingsley's along for the ride, like you're saying, as his buddy. And then they just are, in some scenes, they're just going back and forth, trading verses from famous plays. Like, Ben Kingsley's just allowed to do a two-minute monologue from Shakespeare. The show is fucking great.
Starting point is 00:23:20 Oh, I've loved it. We have some fun friends on the show, too. Carl Tart pops up on the show. Carl Tart is in an episode that's like a bottle episode, not a bottle episode that's like a one-off episode that explains the history of another character from the past. Iron Fours is so good. So good. He's so good. It's great. And that's also the episode with Josh Gad doing, I mean, Josh Gad, really, like, I give him a lot of credit for basically just jumping in as himself and really going for it.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Joey pants, too. Josh Gad and Joey Pants are both in this show playing themselves, the actors, Joe Pantiliano and Josh Gad. And Josh Gads' version of himself in this show is just such an unrepentantantant douche. It's great. It is so fun to watch. It's this great acting. It's great writing. It's funny.
Starting point is 00:24:14 And it's, to me, it's just like one of those things where I think a lot of the complaints about it have been, why didn't they advertise this show? Like, you know, because it's sort of like, oh, is that right? Yeah, it just kind of came out. And I think it honestly, it's a big swing. And I, and the way I kind of describe it to people is like, this is the andor for the Marvel universe. It's sort of like, we're in a world. You're right.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Not tonally. But like, it's a creator going, we're just going to live in our world doing our own thing that doesn't really affect anything else. Yes, you're right. And what's interesting is you're right. It's a big swing. But conversely, it's a big swing because it's a small. small story. Right. You know, and that's what's a big swing about it is that this is small stakes
Starting point is 00:24:59 story here. It is about did he get the audition? Like, most episodes are about whether he gets a callback or not or about being embarrassed to tell his family that he got fired from a job. Like, all of these family dynamics, it feels very small. It feels a little bit like a character study that you are interested in. And every once in a while, you're reminded, oh, right, He has like powers. Oh, okay. Right. But it's not, the powers are not what the show is about.
Starting point is 00:25:28 And now going forward, that might change. But it's, it's also, it's not cool to have powers. Like, that's the part of it. It's like, and I think that that's the fun part of the show is like it's a different perspective. It's kind of like what Astra City was to me back in the day. Absolutely. And I don't understand why I leave. Kurt Bucig book.
Starting point is 00:25:48 I have no idea why no one has done Astro City. Like, that to me feels like a no brain. Boy, it's so big. It's such, you could do so many elements of it. You could do elements of Astro City, you know, because Astro City, I mean, if people haven't read the Kurt Bucig book Astro City, there's many, many, many volumes of it. But there's compendiums that collect a lot of them. And they really seek to show not just stories of superheroes and the city and everything like that, but it's really about the people inside of the city that is full of these heroes. And how does it's beautiful, beautiful storytelling.
Starting point is 00:26:22 And it's Alex Ross does some of the covers of it that are just... Oh, yeah. The art is gorgeous. It's incredible. Very long-running book, beautifully told. It's a, it's one that is, I can't recommend enough Astro City. Yeah, really a highlight of that one. I love it so much.
Starting point is 00:26:41 But man, oh man, Wonder Man. Wonder Man, great. If you are hesitating in any way, just let that go to the side. Because honestly, the opening scene will suck you in. You're like, oh, I'm in. And if this matters, it's a half hour. Yes. It's not an hour long show.
Starting point is 00:26:57 It's eight half hours. It's great. It's a very compelling human story. I mean, look, at this point, what do you have? What do you have to lose? What do you have to lose? You know what? We have been watching here at the home front, 30 Rock.
Starting point is 00:27:15 And I have not sat through 30 Rock for years. And man, oh man, what a fun rewatch. I know this is like the dumbest thing to say. Like 30 Rock is funny. No, no, it is because I also have rewatched it within the last year or two. So joke dense. It is so strong that show. So many jokes.
Starting point is 00:27:38 So, so funny. What I love about that show and I think is such a way to talk about great shows is once they finally settle into what it is, then it's just a mix and match. Right. So then it's like, what if this storyline is put these three together who normally aren't together? And these two are over here doing this. And those different pairings and different matchups are endlessly recyclably funny. Well, and you know what I think is so interesting.
Starting point is 00:28:04 This is a story that I always heard when they were talking about the office. Like Greg Daniels had this board. And on the on the board, he had like all the characters lined up on both sides, the left and right hand side. And this drew lines. All right. Well, it's Dwight and this guy. It's, you know, it's, and it's like, what are those stories? And when you had 24 episodes in the season, you could just go off and be like, mix it up, mix it up, mix it up, you know?
Starting point is 00:28:29 And it's so fun and endlessly, like you said, like they never get old. It's like, oh, great, another Tracy Jack McBer episode. I can't wait. And there's no, there's, I mean, so little serialized storytelling. You can drop in and out of it wherever you want. You don't have to follow it all. You know, it's if we still existed in a time where syndication was a thing. this show would be massive.
Starting point is 00:28:52 You know what I mean? I know. In that same way. Just like it gets so bum because the one thing that I feel like we love is more episodes. Like we want. I agree. It's just, it's a bummer because we're getting eight. Then you're waiting a year.
Starting point is 00:29:06 And it's like, you know, uh, yeah, it just, it's like there's too much time. Especially for those kind of shows like 30 Rock where really all I want to do is hang out with these people more. I'm not interested in more story. I'm not interested in more mystery or. or more mystery box or I just want to hang out with these characters that I like more because that's the kind of show 30 Rock is. You're just, you're walking around the literally 30 Rock bumping into all these absurd storylines. Perfect. I want, I want that forever, you know.
Starting point is 00:29:37 And I finally was able to put some salve on the Brooklyn Nine Nine-Iitch of my youngest son. I should say the wound. He's not been able to commit to another show and I've been trying and track and then we hit 30 Rock, he's like, I like it. Oh, good. So we are in. Here's what I'll say. If you get there, I will reiterate my absolute fandom for Girls 5Eva, which is almost all of the creative team is so, so funny.
Starting point is 00:30:03 And then now the new show, the rise and fall of Reggie Dinkins, I think is what it is. Yes. Is the only one episode is up now. It's on Peacock. And it's hilarious. It's really funny. is so funny and it's a lot of the same people that are behind it's a Robert Carlock it's a it's a lot of the same people that are behind 30 Rock and you got Daniel Radcliffe is like a documentarian
Starting point is 00:30:26 who is making a show on on Tracy Morgan and and Bobby Moynihan's in it and it's it starts Bobby is so funny in it's so good it starts uh in February but you can watch the first episode now and it's it's a really it's it's great it's great it's very worth the watch Our good friend Phil Jackson from Dinosaur. Yeah. Writer on it. Yeah. Writer on it.
Starting point is 00:30:48 So it's a good, yeah, it's a good one. And again, it's great to have solid comedies. Yeah. Oh, I have a solid comedy. Can I recommend a comedy special that I absolutely was crying at, which is Sarah Sherman's special, live and in the flesh. I was just about to write this down. I watched this on Sunday. It blew me away.
Starting point is 00:31:11 I was like, I want, like, no one was in the room with me when I was watching. I was looking down to me like, are you seeing this? I was crying laughing. Truly crying tears of joy laughing. It's just such a funny special. She is, and you know, look, I read that article in New York Magazine. You know, she, like, oh, I did. Okay, there's a great article in New York Magazine.
Starting point is 00:31:33 And there's just like a very nice, we're a little moment where she talks about the pretty girl wig that she's always forced to be in these pretty girl wigs on SNL. And it's so funny because I know Sarah, I see her, I watch SNL every week. And, like, she is put in this role. She kills it. She's so funny on the show. But it is no, you don't know who she is until you've seen this show. Like, this is her full bore out.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Before she was on SNL, her comedy persona was called Sarah Squirm. Yes. You know, and it was all of this gross out body horror comedy. You know, it's kind of like John Waters by way of. Pee-Wee Herman. Yeah, Pee-Werman. Yes, like a fucked-up Pee-Wy-Herman type of a body horror. Like, there's, she's just got, like, that was, so Sarah Squirm, this special lives in that world.
Starting point is 00:32:23 It's like, big, colorful, chaotic set, but with lots of just, just, like, gross tactile stuff, she really heightens every bit to not just absurdity, but to gonzo-level absurdity. The fact that she has a foot pedal that just plays the Seinfeld bass line, is never not funny every time she hits it. It kills me. It kills me. I can't recommend it enough. It's one of the best comedy specials I've seen in years, I think.
Starting point is 00:32:53 I was going to say there is literally nothing like this special. You know, it feels very much like Julio Torres is special. It's like it's redefining what a special is, but I think what's different about hers is like Hers presents as a stand-up special that is completely twisted. If you just watch anything, watch the first five minutes. Once you get past the opening, which is just with John Waters. Oh, yeah. But her, like, entrance onto stage and those first five to ten minutes are just like a machine gun fire of like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:33:30 It is. It's so, it's so nuts. There's so much going on. But it seems so effortless. and it's so funny. She's so comfortable bouncing between all of these very intricate elements. You know, it's very hard what she's done. And she's making it look not only so easy, but so silly.
Starting point is 00:33:51 And it's incredibly impressive. It's effortless. It's artful. It's fun. And I think honestly, it's like inspiring. As somebody who, you know, I think that we've watched stand up for such a long time that we're just like, okay, we understand what standup is, like what a standup special is. And yes, we've seen some brilliant reinventions of that.
Starting point is 00:34:11 But this to me makes me go like, oh, there's a different way of doing stand-up that. I mean, and again, is it all palatable? I have no idea. You may watch it and be like, I fucking hate it. And that's okay. I'd rather have more visceral reactions to this is fucking nuts because that's what I think it is. It's great, like in that way. It feels like an outgrowth of, like, stuff that used to be like the Gethard show or stuff that
Starting point is 00:34:35 feels like some of the stuff that like Joe Perra does or stuff like, you know, like there's, there's something about it that feels really interesting and come. It's just a unique voice. I guess that's all I'm saying. It's a truly unique voice. There's a, there's a part of, okay, so I would say like if Tim and Eric begat Eric Andre, Eric Andre has begat Sarah Sherman. Like they keep on like, you know, like, I mean, pushing. They're all unique, all brilliant, but it's like, it's just they're each comfortable and their absurdity and their own voice. in a way that you're like, oh, like Eric Andre's show, I've never seen anything like until I saw it.
Starting point is 00:35:09 And I was like, this is fucking great. And now I look at this and like, oh, I get why you open for Eric. You are this. And like, I get why it crosses over, but I also get why you are unique from him as well. So it's fucking great. I love it. All right. Jason, wonderful talking to you.
Starting point is 00:35:23 We will check in again. All right. Now that we've said goodbye to Jason, it is time to say hello to our next movie. Next week we'll be going from an angel smoocher to a killer. Shooter. That's right, the winner of this year's Discord fan vote poll is the 2007 action comedy Shoot Em Up starring Clive Owen, Monica Balucci, and Paul Giamati. Now, I will say that even with over 2,000 votes logged, technically the fan vote ended in a deadlock tie between Shoot Em Up and the 2003 disaster film The Core. However, there was a little bit of foul play.
Starting point is 00:36:05 Now, I don't want to sound like Donald Trump here, but I believe this fan vote was rigged because people switched up their votes at the last second to force a tie, hoping, I think, that we would do both films that they would somehow make us feel obligated to them to do both. But here's the thing. The core was way too long. We're not going to do that. And I did not think that shoot him up was a great choice. So you fucked around and you found out. Okay, we are going to do Shoot Em Up, a movie that I don't think Jason, June or I believe, belongs on this show. But you picked it. You picked it.
Starting point is 00:36:54 And we're going to give it to you. I got to tell you, I love this movie. And I'm going to be waxing poetically. about it all next week. If you don't know anything about it, let me just say this. Shoot Em Up is a Clive Owen movie where he plays a man named Mr. Smith, who delivers a woman's baby during a shootout and has then called upon to protect the newborn from an army of gunmen. It is essentially like a Bugs Bunny cartoon meets John Wick.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Paul Giamatti gives an amazing performance. I gotta say, Monica Balucci gives an amazing performance. And we will talk about why Clive Owen, was not raised up for this kind of non-winking, smart portrayal of this badass in a overtly comical action film. I can't get into it. We're going to break it down next week. Discord, you picked the wrong one, but you also picked a great one. Rotten Tomatoes gives this film a 67 score on the Tomato Meter.
Starting point is 00:37:54 Roger Ebert wrote in his review, I don't need a lot of research to be confident in stating that never before have I seen a movie open was the hero delivering a baby during a gun battle, severing the umbilical cord with a gunshot, and then killing a villain by penetrating his brain with a raw carrot. Well, I mean, yeah, I don't know if that's a review as much as it is a statement, a fact of the opening scene of this film, and if that doesn't make you excited, then, uh, I don't know what does. Anyway, let's take a listen to the trailer. Hey, honey, listen, I'm afraid that this business trip's going to take a little bit longer than I
Starting point is 00:38:27 thought. These guys were stalking this lady. She had a kid. I couldn't just stand there. Oh my God, do we really suck? Or is this guy really not good? Who are you? I'm a British nunny, and I'm dangerous. Now, here is the thing. Shoot-em-up is not streaming free right now, but you picked it, so I'm not going to hear any complaints.
Starting point is 00:38:58 It is available to rent on Apple TV, Amazon Prime Video, YouTube, and Google Play. As always, you can try to find these movies on... Hupla Canopy and Libby, but guess what? It's not. It's not there. So you got to rent this one. And I think you should, and I don't think you're going to be upset about renting it. Uh, so go with God. Enjoy your pick. I can't wait to talk about it next week. It is a fun episode, Jason, June, and I getting into this film. Anyway, that is it for last looks. If you listen to us on Apple Podcast or Spotify, please rate and review us. Please also make sure you are following us and have automatic downloads turned on.
Starting point is 00:39:35 It helps the show. we appreciate it. Visit us on social media at HDTGM and a big thank you to our producers, Scott Sonny, Molly Reynolds, our engineer Casey Holford, our social media manager, Zoe Applebaum, and our intern, Quinn Jennings, and we will, of course, be forever thankful to the one and only April
Starting point is 00:39:50 Hallie. We will see you next week for Shoot them up!

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