How Did This Get Made? - Last Looks: Dracula 2000

Episode Date: November 4, 2022

A trip into the Quibi archive, Gerard Butler's Dracula audition, and a few Disneyland hacks. Places people, it's time for Last Looks! This week Paul answers your questions on the Help Line, digs into your Corrections and Omissions from Dracula 2000, and Jason joins Paul for a "Just Chat" to catch up on the things they've loving. Plus, Paul announces next week's movie. Paul & Jason's Picks:American Ninja Warrior (NBC) & The Warped Wall"The Golden Arm" episode of Sam Raimi’s 50 States Of Fright (Quibi)The Quibi ArchiveJune’s Picks:I Survived A Crime (A&E)Go to www.hdtgm.com for tour dates, tickets, and more.Follow Paul on Letterboxd: https://letterboxd.com/paulscheer/HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: https://discord.gg/paulscheerCheck out Paul and Rob Huebel live on Twitch (https://www.twitch.tv/friendzone) every Thursday 8-10pm ESTSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael here: listen.earwolf.com/deepdiveSubscribe to Unspooled with Paul Scheer and Amy Nicholson here: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledCheck out The Jane Club over at www.janeclub.comCheck out new HDTGM merch over at https://www.teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmWhere to Find Jason, June & Paul:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is Not on Twitter

We're going into the Quibi Archive, Gerard Butler auditions for Dracula, and I'm gonna give you some Disneyland hacks, all this and more on today's very important, very big. Last Looks. Hello all my Virgin Megastore employees, and my millennium nurse for autos. I'm your host Paul Sheer and welcome to How Did This Get Made? Last Looks, where you get to voice your issues, on Dracula 2000. Jason and I are going to chat about all the stuff that we are currently into, plus we are going to reveal next week's movie, and as always, I am going to try to solve your problem.

That's right, we're gonna do it a little bit differently this week, but I think I got a good solution for a very big issue. But first things first, a big shout out to Rob from Long Island Rob. Thank you for that amazing theme song. I love Rob from Long Island. We love songs like Rob's, and if you feel like you got the goods, you want to step it up like Rob stepped it up, well, send us a song. You can send it to HowDidThisGetMadeatEarWolf.com. Keep them short, 15, 20 seconds is best. We need some new themes for the just chat with Jason.

Make them, send them, and we will play it. All right people, just want to say thank you to everyone who came out to see us on the road. We had amazing shows in Indianapolis, Ohio, Chicago, and Detroit. Every audience was truly just special and brought it in such an amazing way with their costumes and their questions and their songs. I loved being out. I can't wait to go back out again. We're gonna be back out on the road December 3rd. It's Saturday in San Francisco at the Masonic Temple, which is a fun venue.

And also, it's going to be a holiday movie and a holiday movie that I watched last Christmas and I sent a text to Avril like on Christmas Eve going, I know what we have to do next year. So I'm so excited to do that in San Fran, but I'm not going to even announce it yet. I'm going to tease you. Anyway, head to HDTGM.com to buy tickets for that, but also head to all of our social pages to check out all the amazing costumes. There's one guy who dressed as Scribbles and he had a 14 page note section,

a giant binder of notes for dressed to kill or fashion runway, whatever it was called. And it was just great. People let their nerd flag fly, especially with the costumes. There was a couple who came as a man woman scene, a person with a fully decked out Save Miracles outfit. There was a row of Nicholas Cage's from Con Air. That was a popular one, as a matter of fact, seven Sylvester Stallone's. We had just great great costumes.

Oh, how could I forget? We had a tall John. A tall John was there, plenty of people dressed as the Jason of their group. The list goes on and on and I keep on telling people if you came, tag your pictures so I can post more of them because we only have a handful up of the ones that people posted and they are just all just too good. Anyway, let's get into the Paul helpline. Let's hear from you because I know that you have problems with your life and your love and your job.

Don't you really want to know? I'm going to help you. First of all, thanks. Let's get into the Paul helpline. OK, I would like to hold the father right in big order. I'm your Oprah. I am a more modern Oprah. I am more modern than Oprah.

I'm the only person for the father of your baby. Thank you, homonym. OK, this week we're going to do something different. Like I mentioned, we're going to go to the discord and this is written by gratuitous silence. Hey, Paul, we went to Disneyworld slash universal a few years ago and I leaned heavily on the fast pass. We are looking to go to Disneyland with our six year old twins and five year old niece and oh boy, ticketing has gotten way more complicated since you are a pro and have been to the parks with the kiddos the same age as ours.

I need help. First, what should we hit for sure? What's the best pass to get that has gotten impossible to decipher and last anything other than the parks that we should see? Thank you. Love you. Stay safe. Gratuitous silence is a great question. I love getting into my Disney shit.

It depends. A couple of things. What's the plan? Are you going for a couple of days? You going for one day? If you're going for one day, I'm going to say that there are more things for the kids to do at California Adventure. I know that that is an unpopular opinion, but they got kids that are my age. There are playgrounds there.

There's Pixar Pier. There's the Marvel world. There's the Cars Land. You got more stuff that they are into and that they can go on. And I have found that my kids really like all of that stuff. Sure, they love Disneyland and all that great stuff. But the end of the day, the majority of the Disneyland rides, they don't have a personal connection to. So if it's a one day only event, I'm going to lean that way because you've already been to Disney World.

You've already seen all those other things. So I would say open up your mind, expand it and go that way. But here's the thing. You probably want to get a park jumper if you're going to be there. I would even say for one day because you could start off your day in California Adventure and then move over to Disneyland for the night and the fireworks and things like that, depending on when you're going. That's also tricky because sometimes it's open later and then they have like special nighttime events like they just had this Halloween thing. Am I like just doing a walking ad for Disneyland? Well, I'll tell you this much.

It's fucking expensive. So here's the deal. Now, this is what they have decided to start doing. Not only is there like this mega pass and I do believe you should get get the best get the best pass. It's going to bankrupt you, but it's worth it. It's worth it because it gets you to be able to cut ahead of everything that you want to do. It just gets you on top of everything. I would say this, you also have these rides that cost a premium.

So even when you get the best ticket, then you're paying $15 per person on top of that for some rides. It's a rip. People are pissed. I get it. But as a parent, if you want to ride Spider-Man for 15 bucks, no line, go by yourself, let your kids eat a snack. Great. Go do it. But oh my gosh, it's hard to break it all down.

It really is. I just say go for broke if you're only going to be there for one or two days because it's the only way to get it. If you're not going at a crowded time of the year, I'm thinking that you're going in December and that's a fucking nightmare. I'll jump into this more on the discord, but you're just going to have to eat up the gut punch. That is the way that they have priced out the parks now. They've just they are going to gut you at every single turn. It's not pretty, but the kids have a good time. And what I found also with the kids is they don't know what they're missing.

So as long as you don't carry that guilt, you could do one park and never tell them about the other park. They don't care. They don't care. That's all I'd say. Go do that. As far as anything else, I mean, we got Universal Studios here in Hollywood. That's a little bit further away. And hey, my kids don't like it.

There's not much for them to do until that Super Mario Land opens or like the Pokemon Pier or whatever they're going to open up over there. There's not much to do there. You could do like a Hollywood tour. I think the Paramount lot is probably the best one. That one always seems a lot of fun. As far as taking family, you could also go see like a game show or like America's funniest on videos if they're not doing that on monitors anymore. But overall, if you're talking about Anaheim, what is there to do in Anaheim? I don't know.

Medieval times do that pirate show where you watch people climb a mast of a pirate ship. Not very farm, a lot of roller coasters, not really super kid friendly, so I wouldn't recommend that. And then finally, you know, SeaWorld, there's issues with SeaWorld. You can't just recommend SeaWorld, but there's a great science center in Anaheim that might be fun too, and it's cheap. And then that way you can kind of be like, oh, we did two things. That's what I got. I hope that's helpful. It's a hard question because I don't have all the details in front of me.

But I think that gives you a good enough overview and shows how just nerdy I am. And I'd also give you a couple more tips in there. But but I think at this point, it's pay to play and it sucks. And especially if you're a family of four, you're just terribly fucked. You're just kind of screwed at every corner. But I will say as much as I know that going in every time we have a great time and I forget about it. But I just have to make that decision before we get in the car and go. All right, we are always looking for more Paul's help, blind voicemail.

So if you need some advice or second opinion, do you have any good theme park hacks? Call me. Tell me. Let me know. Give me a call at 619-PAUL-ASK at 619-728-5275. And now I want to let you know that we have something very exciting for you coming up. It is going to be the ultimate gift for all. How did this get made fans? I'm going to tease it.

It's going to be a crowdfunded thing, but it's going to come out soon. I don't know. Is that enough? Is that not enough? It's going to be something that we've been working on. Our producer, Molly Reynolds, has been killing it on putting this together. We've all been working hard on this. Devin and Molly and Cody, Jason even.

We all have just been in the weeds getting this together and I can't wait to reveal it. So stay tuned because right around Thanksgiving, we're going to have a very big announcement. Anyway, for all the people that were bummed that we ran out of merch, I'm so sorry that we ran out of merch in Chicago. Dumb, biggest venue, like 3,600 people and we ran out of merch. We will have merch in San Francisco. Anyway, if you're going to come out to San Francisco, buy those tickets now.

That's December 3rd at the Masonic Temple. It's going to be a lot of fun. And as always, if you are a Golden State warrior, you can get into the show for free. Just let me know. Check out the free tickets. Anyway, we'll be right back with your questions, comments and concerns about Dracula 2000. Okay, last week we talked about Dracula 2000. We had questions and we might have even missed a few things.

I mean, it's possible. It is. Here is your chance to set us straight. Fact check us if you will. For corrections and omissions. Thank you, Dan Cardenas. That is a great theme. All right, we are on the discord.

And if you're not on the discord, you're missing out. There's a discord meetup in Chicago is great. I called on them in the show. They had nothing to say, which was a high and a low. Maybe they were feeling the pressure after Jason and June reacted so negatively to their pick of Dracula 2000. Anyway, grumble bottom rights has probably been mentioned already. But all that lost or reincarnated lover crap was not part of Stoker's book. That was an invention of Francis Ford Coppola for his movie, which is what I think Shear was remembering.

Stoker's Dracula was pure evil, a pestulent beast. And the book made no attempt to create a sympathy for the monster. I didn't think about the lost or reincarnated love. I don't remember what that was. It wasn't me. Was it me? Gosh, I don't even remember half the shit I say. Anyway, but Julius hops in to respond to grumble bottom and says correction.

Dracula was never meant to be Vlad the Impaler. Stoker came across the word Dracula, meaning son of the dragon, which was a title held, among others, Vlad. Stoker thought it meant devil and decided to use it for his villain, replacing the name he had been using in earlier drafts, Count Wampire. That's all there is to it. Just a name that happens to have been the title of an infamous leader. We don't even know if Stoker had heard of Vlad the Impaler. His notes just say Dracula means devil and Romanian,

much like the idea that Mina is the reincarnation of Dracula's lost love. The idea that Count is supposed to actually be Vlad seems to have been cemented in popular consciousness by Francis Ford Coppa. Again, FFC fucking up the Dracula myth. Mitch Kappa, Chunk Style, writes kudos to Nathan Fillion for not getting cut out of the movie because his whole scene could have been removed at no loss. I'm sure he'd be showing back up for at least a good death scene when they went to go hide from Dracula on Sacred Ground, but no.

By the way, speaking of Dracula, he did not seem to be bothered in the least by being on church property. Yeah, why could he be on church property but just like a weird crucifix image affixed to the top of a building and give him a lot of issues? Again, I have issues with the end and the choking and all that bullshit. That's what I needed to be clarified. Anyway, Farm Boy writes Paul Star Trek Voyager aired from 1995 to 2001, so Jerry Ryan was in her 7-9 fame when Dracula 2000 came out. I said that. Didn't I say that?

I corrected myself in the middle of the podcast unless it was cut out. And if it was cut out, you gotta blame Scott, you gotta blame Cody. They did not want to stand by me when I told you the real information because I Googled it. I'm not going to let that whole thing hang. Anyway, let's go to the phones. First up, Galen from Toronto. Hi, Paul. This is Galen calling from Toronto. On the podcast, you were talking about the beautiful stone building in London, and you said you didn't know which real building it was.

It is the Clarkson Gordon Building, also known as the Heritage Building, or the former commercial bank of Midland. And it is located in Toronto. Yes, just a few kilometers from Little Italy, Canada. It was originally just north of where it is now. The facade was dismantled and reassembled as part of the Alan Lambert Galleria, which is the beautiful steel and glass structure that you see in the film. Thank you so much, Robert Schell.

Yes, Galen, I love that. Holy shit, Toronto. I was fooled. I was fooled. I love the way you just spun that out. That was perfect. What a great... That's what I'm looking for, people. Look at that. Got style, pizzazz, info, everything. Took me on a journey. Anyway, great job, Galen. Let's go to Tom in Cincinnati. Hi, Paul. This is Tom in Cincinnati.

I just wanted to call up some comments about the discussion you had around Dracula 2000. No dreams taken. A lot of flacks are speaking ill of locksmiths, and I think that the relationship has since been repaired. But I feel like you sit on something with home security installers. I have to admit that I had an odd interaction with the home security installer myself, but the point that I wanted to bring up is I grew up in Wichita, Kansas, in the mid-80s, and one of our real-life boogeymen was a serial caller called BTK, and he stalked Wichita through the mid-70s to mid-80s,

and one final killing is 11th killing in early 1990s. But when he was captured, it was a man named Dennis Rader, and he had worked for most of that period for a home security system, installing home security mostly for people who were worried about the BTK killer, at least in part. A little creepy, and June's right on target. So, love the show. Keep doing great work. Bye. Holy hell, Tom! I'm glad that you're alive. And, woof! Yikes!

I just saw that movie, Barbarian, last night, and there's a scene in that movie. I won't get into it, but I loved it. But, yeah, man, we gotta be careful about who we get in our house and the BTK killer. Woof! That is rough stuff. Again, we are on a roll. Great corrections and omissions this week from the callers. All right, and let's wrap it up with Scott in Baltimore. Hey, Paul. It's your boy Scottie in Baltimore with a correction slash maybe omission from Dracula 2000. Vitamin C is also known by your real name, Colleen Fitzpatrick,

and she appeared in the John Waters film, Hairspray, where she played Amber Von Tussle, Tracy Turnblad, and Nemesis. It's kind of fun that Colleen Fitzpatrick slash Vitamin C is a real-life pop star because in Hairspray, her parents were played by Sonny Bono and Debbie Harry. So, you get a trio of pop stars as a family in John Waters Hairspray. All right, have a fantastic day. Great voice, nailed it, gave me a lot of info about Vitamin C. I didn't mean to diminish Vitamin C in any way. If you felt like you had to call in to defend her or just, you know, I didn't mean to do that.

Great actress. I just remember her from that song. And I have to say, John Waters, great choice. And are you excited that John Waters is coming out of retirement? Somebody came dressed as John Waters at the Chicago show, and they had a mustache on the outside of their mask, and I thought that was great. Also, someone came dressed as a locksmith. Oh, these costumes. I want to do costumes all the time for how did this get made? It was so much fun.

All right, back to the Discord. Again, this might be Larry David because the name is LD and in quotes, possibly Larry David. At the end, is Mary fully a vampire or some sort of hybrid vampire hunter like Blade? The bite marks are no longer on her neck yet her eyes flash, assuming to show that she has some sort of vampiric power. She's also decked out in leather, but that could go both ways, vampire or vampire hunter. LD, great question. And I got to say, I think she's like her dad who had powers but was not a vampire.

So she might have to get that leech situation under control or something. I believe she's got something going on, just like a pops. And that also is the, I mean, there's so many movies that end like that, right? Didn't we just watch another movie that gave that same kind of like, uh-oh, sequel. We're so confident in this sequel, it's never going to happen. Mr. Barrington writes, well, I guess, by the way, it did happen. It happened two times, so shame on me. Mr. Barrington writes, surely someone already shared Gerard's Dracula audition tape.

Um, Mr. Barrington, I did not know this existed. Let's take a listen. Bloodlust. Men have always lost it after blood. Tell me a war that was otherwise. I bestowed life with the taking of blood. Life that you fed upon like a parasite. Tell me, my friend, how does it feel to become what you beheld?

Oh, wow. Oh, man, I don't know if you could get the intensity of what was happening here. Wow, I am, I am speechless, truly. I mean, first of all, wow, okay. There's a lot of tongue-to-lip action going on there, a lot of licking of the lips. The way his hair, he looks like the lead singer of White Snake, the 80s band, but I don't know what to make of any of that. I don't even, I need to watch more of that. Devin, play another clip. You never understood, never grasped your one true purpose in all of this, did you?

You took my blood and you created a child through it. Can you not see? That makes a mind. You can't have Mary. Oh, I can. I dreamt her into being Abraham. You let yourself be a vessel for that dream. Oh, all right.

All right. Please watch this. It's online, Gerard Butler Dracula edition. This, I'm sure the sound is not doing it justice. Wow. I need to send this to everybody that I know. Wow, I even know where to go because there's no more corrections and omissions there. And if you want to know who the winner is, well, I mean, after those three amazing phone calls, you thought it would be between them.

But no, it's not. It's Mr. Barrington for unearthing this fucking find. Holy shit, Mr. Barrington, I wish I could give you something, but I can't give you anything physical. I could just give you this amazing song. So check it out. You win nothing. Nothing. That is your own theme.

Great. Great theme. Honestly, I'm still taking it back by that audition. Anyway, if you want to chime in with your own thoughts about the latest episode, hit up the discord at discord.gg slash httgm or call us at 619. You know, this is something that I thought was interesting before we kind of move on. And I wanted to just chat about it because I think this has been just in the zeitgeist lately. We got a phone call about a plotline in this movie that was not really clear to us at the time of recording. And it's distinctly put in the voicemail.

And I think we'd be remiss not to address it. So take it away, Rebecca. Hi, Paul. Rebecca here. I have an omission about the Dracula 2000 movie. And I wrote this out so that I could try and say it succinctly. So basically, and I'm pretty sure this was unintentional. I hope it was unintentional on the part of the filmmakers.

But so we all know that Judas is Kerry that betrayed Jesus. And probably most folks know or have figured out on their own that the name Judas and the English word Jewish have the same roots. And, you know, they're really linked like linguistically and symbolically in our culture, blah, blah, blah. The problem is when you take Dracula and you wrecked on him into Judas is Kerry, it you come really, really close to telling a story about blood libel. And it might not be close to a story. It might just be a story about blood libel. It might not even be close. It might just be that.

So to be our very, very brief. Blood libel is an anti-Semitic myth and lie that was very popular in Europe in the Middle Ages that said that Jews murder little genteel children in the course of observing their faith. It's been the direct cause of pogroms, pogroms, excuse me, mob violence, murder of Jews. It's one of the roots of European anti-Semitism. It is super gross. Now you've got this Dracula who survives by sucking blood and in the original book by Bram Stoker, one of the sort of the whole thing, the whole like the victim who's the focus of the story is this young, beautiful, innocent English woman. And then you make that blood sucking monster Jewish and that's the really fucked up shit. And again, probably not on purpose.

I hope not on purpose. I know a lot of, especially 20 years ago, I think a lot of anti-Semitic conspiracy theories were not well known among non-Jewish Americans. So I can imagine a world where this is just a super unfortunate coincidence. But these two stories interact in a way that's super fucked up. Thank you, Rebecca. Wow. That was equally mind blowing. And I'm so glad that you called to explain that.

I feel smarter having listened to you and I'm glad that we are talking about this in a moment right now where I think there is a tremendous amount of anti-Semitism going on in a very public way. And I'm so happy that you felt confident enough to make that call and speak so succinctly about it and educate us all about that. I just want to tag it more than I just want to say I appreciate that and I also appreciate that you felt comfortable enough to bring that up in this show because we do want to push that stuff to the front. And I hope it wasn't done with that, you know, intention, but at the same time, let's fucking call it out just to make sure. We'll be right back with Jason and I as we talk about all the things that you should be watching on Paul and Jason. Just chat. People, you might be noticing that every week we are releasing an old how to just get made from the back catalog. This week we are re-releasing Jason 10.

That's right. Jason 10 with Rob Hubel. Let the bodies hit the floor. Let the bodies hit the floor. We are going back into the vault pulling out a classic episode and I love that Jason episode. Hubel is on fire. All right, so make sure you are listening to all the matinee Mondays. Now we've spent a lot of time hearing from you, but no one has asked me what I'm up to.

What am I listening to? I mean, that's not really true. I'm kind of running the show here and I've mentioned a lot of things that I'm into. Anyway, it's a segue. Don't worry about it. Jason and I were just finishing our Halloween tour, but we wanted to give you a little extra snippet of our last just chat that ended up on the cutting room floor. Not because it wasn't good.

Just because we talked for way too long. We talk about what scary murder shows, June watches in the house. We talk about some quippy archives, American Ninja Warriors and Warp Walls. Take a listen to this segment of just chat. Tom McWaters hit us with our first official theme. We're going to have ourselves a conversation. Just chat, no quarantine or vaccination. Just chat, Paul and Jason, a couple of cats.

Just chat, just chat, just chat. I will say that if it's not, and I may have talked about this plenty of times on the show, if it's not someone getting killed and buried somewhere illegally, we're not watching it in our house. June is only up for that. Only murder. Only murders in the house. Only murders in the house.

Only murders on Netflix. She has found the bottom of the barrel of those shows now because we've watched them all. There literally is a show that we've been watching called I Survived a Home Invasion. What? Which is just people just going like, yeah, and they came in fucking hit me over the head. It's just like people telling the story and showing security cam footage. It's not artful. It's not interesting.

It's like, yeah, we got that one and we didn't get that one. I feel like you guys are only months away from watching. I feel like we are only, as a society, months away from watching videos that are shot entirely on Nest cams of people being murdered. Yeah, I mean it's like. Nest cam is going to become a digital content creator just because they're shooting so much stuff. Ring. Do you subscribe to ring?

Do you subscribe? I subscribe to ring. Ring is the best show. Well, the ring, I heard ring is going to turn into the ring. So that it participates in all murders going forward. Hubel and I used to do a bit where we would try to tape shows on the ring doorbell. You have enough time. We would try to do cooking show.

For our Largo show, we would try to do as many shows as we can do in 30 seconds in front of our ring doorbell. That's very fun. I love that. 30 second shows. Short attention span. This is it. You know what it is?

You know what that's like? That's a quick bite of comedy. That's a quibi. I love a quibi. I could go for a quibi right now. I've only got a couple of minutes while I take a hot dump. I could go for a quibi. Oh, quibi.

Quibi, I think about quibi a lot. You do? I know. Yeah, because there's one show in particular. It's you and Katzenberg. The people thinking a lot about quibi. Do you think that Katzenberg goes back to the idea that I should have called it omakasa? That's what I wanted to call it.

Omakasa, the most elitist name that you could possibly name. Incredible. Incredible to be like, I want to call it omakasa and then call it quibi. Quibi. And by the way, when I found out the quick bite, I was like, that is, I mean, I feel like people are too proud of that. The thing that I am that I'm so excited about or what I think about a lot is that show the girl with the golden arm, right?

Oh, what's that? I don't know what that is. Is that a quibi show? Yeah, with Rachel Brosnahan and her arm was made of gold. And it was like a horror anthology series. And it basically was like, like, like, I've never heard of this. Okay. So like, I think this is what it was.

I want it to be. Yeah. The husband like digs up his wife and to take her arm because it was like expensive. Oh, because it's valuable. Yeah. Yeah. And then the arm is like possessed. Of course.

But it's made by, it's made by somebody really good. Like it's like. Well, that's the thing about quibi is they made deals with so many good creators. Yeah. Devin says Sam Raimi. Sam Raimi. That's what it was. Sam Raimi made this show.

And I think about that one more than ever. I'm like, this is. Oh, I feel like we. I feel like if we, if we dove into the quibi archive, there would be actually, I bet there are tons of secret gems buried in the quibi archive. You know what I mean? Because they made so many deals with so many good people because they were big money deals with no exclusivity and people were given opportunities to just make, you know, short

form series or stuff, stuff to put on this platform that then just disappeared. I mean, look, there's one show just called the Scooter Braun tattoo show. Holy shit. Now I wait. What are you looking at? I want to. I just, I was looking at the Wikipedia page of the original program. Holy shit.

I mean, there are some crazy. Okay. Yeah. I'm on it now too. Lots of unscripted, not that many comedies. Interesting. No. Yeah.

They had that great one that Maple Worth murders. Oh yeah. Is that good? Paul Appel. That was her show that I heard was very good. Oh, and John Lutz, J.B. Smoove. Oh, this is a great.

Oh, it's a Lorne Michaels, Seth Meyers production. Great. Yeah. So there's something. I mean, but then you have like, you know, Chrissy Teigen's court called Chrissy's court. Oh boy. You know, they had the reboot of like, of singled out, which Joel Kim Booster was the host of.

Okay. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Lots of reality. There's lots of reality. A lot. A lot of stuff.

What? Oh my God. This is fucking, but you go through it, right? Because I'm on the same list now. And just to kind of hit this point home is, you know, I'm going to just say the names that are inside of some of these Andy Cohen, you know, Will Smith, Chrissy Teigen. These are just people who have names in titles offset. You know, there are, they made so many deals with so many big Adam divine, so many big

people to do. Oh, that's right. They did Reno there. I forgot about that. Yeah. Right. Then then Reno got to move and then they got nominated for an Emmy for best film. Wow.

Yeah. I mean, there are so many. Holy shit. So, I mean, I'm looking at all of these. Wow. There's, I mean, there's this one thing just called like your daily horoscope. So every day you just get your horoscope and there was a lot of comedy getting ready to go.

The Les Grossman show. That's the Tom Cruise character from Varsity Blues. Oh shit. Sorry. It was a Tom Cruise character from Tropic Thunder. And then Varsity Blues TV show. There's also untitled Scooter Braun dance competition. He must have had some sort of overall there.

Yeah. Wow. Wow. Yeah. I never really got into it. This is just, now Quarchat is just Quibi Talk. Just getting into it. This is maybe a segment.

Wait, wait. This one. Rapper Warrior Ninja. Rapper Warrior Ninja? Wow. Rapper Warrior Ninja. I will say when I had COVID and was trapped in Houston, one of the things that I did watch is American Ninja Warrior because you can just have it on and kind of sort of pay attention

while you have a blistering fever and are out of your mind. Wow. What a great show. What a great show. All right. First of all. Do you think you could do it? Go ahead.

Two things. Rapper Warrior Ninja is just Eric Andre's, like on the Eric Andre show, they used to just dress guys up like American Gladiator and just like hit them and like fall around on the set. That's funny. And they just put rappers on it and that was the extension of the Eric Andre show. That's great. But to talk about American Ninja Warrior, I need to talk to you about this thing because

this is a wild thing that happened. My son has been an American Ninja Warrior fan for a long time. But last week at his school, American Ninja Warrior or some version of that came, I wanted to raise money and they could run the course, the kid Ninja Warrior, they could run the course and it wasn't as complex, but it was pretty complex. And my son got really hung up on the fact that he couldn't do the warp wall, which is like the tough one. And so he comes home and he says, can I guess?

He wants you to build him a warp wall. Yes. And I'll say how he presented it. I'm thinking that maybe this year I'll ask Santa for a warp wall. Incredible. And then June says, hey, we'll put it on the list. And then I'm like, I'm looking across the kitchen like, what do you mean put it on the list?

You put that on the list? And then June and I were at the table and this conversation gets more and more heated. She's like, well, I think he should have it if he wants it. I'm like, a warp wall. You want to build a 10 foot structure in our backyard that has one purpose, to run up, touch the top. Is that hours of fun? And besides the fact, he's going to get hurt.

She's like, he's not going to get hurt. I'm like, it's a fucking, like, of course he's going to get hurt. One of the, okay. So when I was watching it in, there was a bunch of, I don't know, there's a bunch of them on when I was there. And one of the things I watched was a teenager who built in his home, like maybe in his garage or something. Sure.

And he built replicas of many of the American Ninja Warrior, hardest things, the salmon ladder, the, and he built himself a warp wall. And he, that's how he trained to qualify for American Ninja Warrior. He was like 18 years old or something. Like he was like a kid compared to everybody else in the, in the, that I was watching. He was the kid and he was incredible and it, but he had built it all. I think that that kid just come back because we were watching it last night and my son goes, he's an adult now cause like there was a kid who was like, he competed in the kids

cause there was a kids American Ninja Warrior show as well. I bet those, those kids would just destroy us. Oh my God, yes. And so like, so didn't I get into this, like he did the thing where she's like, I think it's okay. I go, why is it okay? And then I go at one point, I go, this is the stupidest thing you've ever asked for. And then he runs out of the room and it starts crying in a way, in a way that was like, like

I told him, like, you'll never see your friends again. You're grounded. I was like, what do you mean a warp wall? Like what do you want to walk? Like I was like, what are you going to do with it? Like, and, and he's crying and June's like, we got to get him a warp ball because we're not getting him a warp ball. Oh my God.

So the minute, by the way, the minute he conquers it, it's irrelevant. Exactly. That's all. I'm like, I'm like, we're going to build a 10 foot structure in our backyard. What I was going to ask is like, because to me, unlike, let's say for example, if he said, I want, if he was an avid skateboarder, if he was like, I want a half pipe, you know, you'd be like, listen, that's a lot of real estate in the yard. You're going to take up.

A hundred percent. A kid will use that all day, every day in the afternoon, all day, just going back and forth and going back and forth. That's what you love. We will. Once you conquer that, yeah, once you conquer that warp ball, what's the point? You know, that was my whole thing. I was like, there's nothing.

There's no there. There's nobody. Is there no, maybe you're going to tell me, of course there is. Are there American Ninja warrior themed gyms? Hundreds, Jason. Are they really? Okay. Okay.

This is all right. So this is what I was like, can't you go somewhere? Well, this is what I saw. I say to Gus, I go, here's the deal. I don't think that you're stupid. I think it's stupid to build one of these because exactly what you said, because once you conquer it, it's over and we can go to a gym and we can go and do the thing. And I said, but I am going to tell you, Gus, I am nervous about you getting hurt.

I don't want you to get hurt because again, you're small. It is about height and you're running up a wall there. You could play soccer. You play basketball. Until you, until you get it, you're going to fall every time. Exactly. Until you get it, you are going to fall. So you also would need pads.

You'd also need spotters. He can't just try it alone. You know what I mean? I was like, and then if you do do it and get really good at it, then you're going to get cocky on it and then you're going to really get hurt because let me try it running up and flipping. So June's like, I don't know. I don't see why it's a big deal.

And I go, I'm taking him to the Ninja gym yesterday. That's all happened on the weekend. So I said, I'm taking him to Ninja gym on Sunday. We go to the Ninja gym and he and there's that wall and there's a lot of trampolines around. There's a lot to do there. Can I ask you a very quick question? When he, he tried it, right?

You said at school, was it? Yes. Was he close? And that's why he's really gotten into it because he, he can taste it. You know, it's right there. Yes. Like it was, I think the problem with school was because they had to accommodate the entire school, he only had two chances to do it.

Sure. And so I think he, he wanted more shots. I get it. He wanted more shots. And so he wanted that for Christmas. And so I, I bring him to the place and you get on the line and you just run, run, run. And he does it and he can, he can touch the top. Like he can touch.

He can't elevate himself up there, but he can get to the, he can, his hand can touch the top. It's like, it's like he can touch the rim, but he can't dunk. Kind of right. Right. But let me tell you, he does that for 40 minutes. Guess what? Pulls some sort of muscle in his leg and is limping around like an old man right now,

like walking around the house. And I go, I go, you heard it on the wall. And he goes, I didn't, I didn't, I, I think I just, maybe it was something else I did earlier in the day. I was like, no, it's not. You just ran up a wall for 40 minutes. And he was so nervous because before I got there, he goes, well, why don't you want me to have it?

Cause look, I'm going to Google it right now and I Google warp wall. And the first thing that comes up is Achilles Ripper is what they call it. And then the next thing that they bring up was a, it was like mother of five still dealing with traumatic brain injury from falling on American Ninja Warrior course on the warp wall. I'm like, yeah, man. No, nobody, you're not supposed to run up a wall. That's not how this shit works.

You know? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, and I'm back in normal T's V's better today, but I'm sure hilarious. That's very funny. I love that. Like he came home with this lip so much so that we were supposed to go to a basketball game last night.

It's like, I just, maybe I'm thinking about just like, hang out, just walking as we have rest. I was like, you don't want to rest. You can't walk. Oh, that's so funny. You know what? You know, it's true. And you can, and I mean, obviously he's obsessed with the warp wall.

So this is not going to get his mind off of it. But the people that it's clear to me, the people that are very good at American Ninja Warrior are rock climbers. Oh, right. It's all people who have hand and forearm strength are able to do all of those intricate, they can take their time and move hands when it's on, when they're all like the door knobs. They have to use moving door knobs for handles or they have to, all this stuff, that's all rock climbing.

And so I would say, you know, what you could maybe do is you could install at the house bouldering holds. I've seen that. And that's really fun. Because then he's building the strength he needs to do American Ninja Warrior and then get up there. Yeah. But he's not high up.

He's not. He's really just building that strength. You know, on our summer vacation this year, we went to a place and they had like a 25 foot tall bouldering wall where you could actually like climb up and you would almost like Spider Man, you'd be like, if you were holding on right, you you're almost like your back is in just in the you're completely like, oh, there's like an overhang. There's like an overhang. Yeah.

Yeah. It was it was an amazing. Oh, that was scary. Yeah. Hell though. I was wired up and I had my, I had my, you know, ropes on and stuff like that. But it like it's funny to climb up 25 feet. It was good at my, my college had it, but they didn't install a full climbing wall.

Okay. They just installed handholds that were like for bouldering that were for going side to side. Okay. So nothing above, I'm going to say 10 feet maybe. So if you fell, so you're no ropes, you don't have to be clicked in, you can, you're just working on holds and balance and moving your weight from hands to feet, moving your weight from, you know, above to below, all these kinds of moves, you're learning all the, all the

ways of basically climbing safely before you just start racing straight up, you know. And that's the thing. It's like, you can, I mean, doing that is such even having that, like the ropes on me where I knew I wasn't going to get hurt. It is a crazy sensation to be like, and now I'm going, I'm going, I'm falling or I'm going to give, I'm going to give over to like, because there are moments where I was like, I don't know if I'm going to make this, but I'm like, well, I'm going to play it safe. I didn't have to.

Yeah. Cause I wouldn't be hurt. It would be fine. No, no, but it's still, your brain has to understand like I'm falling now and there is still a tariff, even though you know you're, you're, you're locked in, even though you know somebody is, is belaying you, you are still falling through space. You know, it's terrifying. So wild.

Which is what makes watching something like free solo, absolutely insane because you're watching someone, you know, summit El Capitan, climb an entire face, you know, without support, without ropes, without anything. It's, it's an unbelievable, you are like, Oh, if he falls, it's like not only game over, it's like, it's insanely game over. This is nuts. Well, and then also like the idea that like, I mean, there's so many things, there's so many things that is, there are so many things that are interesting about American Ninja

Warrior and one of the things that I find fascinating is how easy it looks. Like if you were actually to try any of that, like those things that they just put on season 14, I was like, that is like just think about the, they've gotten progressively more and more intense. And now it's, and the course gets longer and longer. It used to be like, I used to watch the American Ninja Warrior for the first time years ago and it was pretty short the course and it ended with the warp wall. Now the warp wall is like at the end of the first act of the course and the course is

like three acts long and there's like, there's like a dragon in it. Now there's like not, it's craziness, you know, and it's so fascinating. You get so sucked into the, the narrative of someone's victory over these elements, you know, and it's so fun to watch people get so close and then fall in the water. I know. And it's like, and you think that they look like, Oh, they could have done it training to fall right away. It's like, it really is.

Oh my gosh. Okay. Well, Jason, thank you again and be sure to tune in for next last looks where Jason and I have, how did this get made? All-Star Natasha Legerro on to talk about her brand new book, The World Deserves My Children. Now that we got Dracula 2000 out of the way, let's talk about next week's movie. We are going from old time booby traps to high school thirst traps. All right.

Anyway. So next week, we are watching the lifetime original movie designed to kill. It's the first stop on our Halloween tour in Indianapolis. Here is a short breakdown of the plot. When a psychotic fashion photographer turns a nerdish high school student into a superstar model, her obsession with him drives her to homicidal madness. Oh man, this movie is great. It has zero ratings in Rotten Tomatoes and nothing on Letterbox.

So if you watch this movie with us, get on the internet and review it. It is one of my favorite films. I wrote Averill, our producer Averill. I wrote it right after. I was like, this might be my favorite movie we've watched in a very long time. And that's saying a lot because we've been on a great run of how to just get made gems. Anyway, take a listen to the designed to kill trailer. One class this semester that we're excited about is called fashion and photography.

Please allow me to introduce the new instructor, Ms. Jennifer Higgins. As someone who photographed top models in New York, I plan to share my knowledge to help you tap into the creative side that I bet you didn't even know you had. Look at David Doolittle. Ms. Higgins got him in the magazine. Word around campus is that you're seeing David Doolittle. Why do you think you need to do that? Why are you so obsessed with this kid?

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