How Did This Get Made? - Last Looks: Fast X

Starting point is 00:00:00 What's up jerks? It is Jason Manzook is here to host this episode of last looks where we're going to be talking about your insights into the fast x and all of the fast and furious franchises, including someone who wrote in to tell us that way they watched all nine movies concurrently on nine different screens. That's insane. We're also going to spend some time talking to a lone contestant, Wonea Tibo, who sat down with Paul and I to talk about her new book, to talk about a lone frozen, and basically talk about all things alone, which I could not have been more excited about. And quite honestly, I've got a lot to say about people's screen user names.

Starting point is 00:00:42 If you want to know about it, get involved. All that and more on today's How Did This Get Made. Last Looks, Play The Song. Go! What's up, jerks? Well, well, well, here we are. Jason Manzook is here, not Paul Sheer, for your last looks episode. I'm here with Molly. I'm here with Scott. Alex is here somewhere, but I told him to turn his fucking camera off. What's up, Jason?

Starting point is 00:01:41 How are we doing, team? I'm Jason. You called me in a panic. You said, Jason, you gotta get down here. You gotta get down here. We need a last look. And I said, I'll be right there. Thank you Jason.

Starting point is 00:01:55 I got on a bird scooter. I rode 25 miles. I'm right here. I'm ready to rock this. We're here to do a last look episode. What does that mean? I don't know really. They've given me a script. I'm ready to rock this. We're here to do a last-look episode. What does that mean? I don't know, really.

Starting point is 00:02:07 They've given me a script. I've just opened it for the first time. I'm gonna cold read this, guys. Let's see what happens. We have a lot to talk about. We're gonna talk about the FastX episode that just happened. We're gonna talk about an incredible interview you're gonna hear later on that Paul and I did with a

Starting point is 00:02:24 like absolute legend in the game. Uh, Wonya Tibo from, uh, alone, um, alone, uh, frozen and alone season six, um, incredible, incredible conversation that we had. I could not have been more excited to talk to anybody in history than Wonya. Um, I see here it tells me I have to give a big all caps shout out to Rob from Long Island. You know what? Rob from Long Island. Great, awesome theme song. Well done. Giving me real magnetic fields vibes. If you've got a song for last looks, guys, get it to us as quickly as possible. If you are wanting your music out there, this is a great way to showcase yourself.

Starting point is 00:03:13 If you've got those theme songs, send them to us at, wait a second, I'm putting my glasses on. How did this get made at earwolf.com? Interesting, but here's the deal. Keep them fucking short. I'm talking 15, 20 seconds. I'm talking about a verse. And of course, we don't need a big instrumental intro. Just keep it tight. Keep it jam packed and keep it interesting. That's what we need for these last looks theme sucks. At some point, I would love it if these were all made available.

Starting point is 00:03:44 Wouldn't that be cool? If there was a Spotify playlist, I'm sure we couldn't do it on Spotify, but if there was a way, oh, this brings up an interesting question. I'm going to go fully off script. This is a question for the team here on the call, but also a larger question to the audience, because I suspect someone is going to have the answer, which is, when I knew I was going to come and do this, I started to put together a, a, a, what a, a spring playlist that I wanted to share with the, share with the listeners.

Starting point is 00:04:20 A playlist of all the stuff that I've been listening to this spring, going into summer, summer playlist. Come on. Great stuff. There's a lot of great music out. I've been listening to this spring going into summer summer playlist come on great stuff There's a lot of great music out. I'm gonna put it out there. What's the best way? Or is there a best way to platform agnosticly publish a playlist I could publish a Spotify I could I could log in and create an anonymous, mostly I don't want people to have my,

Starting point is 00:04:47 access my Spotify, but also not everybody uses Spotify. You know, not everybody uses Apple Music or all of these people are on so many different platforms. Is there a way to create a playlist that I could include in the show notes that boom, everybody could just access it? Oh, audible gasp from Molly.

Starting point is 00:05:09 No, I'm, you're blowing my mind at the sheer possibility. The first thing that comes to mind is maybe like, YouTube playlist, because like everyone has access to YouTube. Maybe that's it, and it's just that's how you, that's how I, but boy, is that how, I'd like to hear from the audience, is that when you wanna listen to music,

Starting point is 00:05:28 how many of you are going to YouTube and hitting play versus Alex, you? Yeah, I subscribe to YouTube music. That's my jam because you get YouTube premium, YouTube no ads and YouTube music. It's starting to sound like a lot of an ad for YouTube. I'm sorry, but it's the way to go. It is the way to go.

Starting point is 00:05:49 I do want to say that Alex is sitting in a YouTube branded chair wearing a YouTube branded t-shirt. Oh, that's interesting. I've never once engaged with YouTube music. I didn't, frankly, this might be the first time I've ever even heard of it. Look at the first pitch that I get when I Google how to publish a playlist. So maybe YouTube. And if you want one month free on YouTube music, you can come up on Bunkers.

Starting point is 00:06:16 Holy shit. Okay, well that's interesting. Okay, so this is at least a very good, potentially, a good first step. But if anybody out there has any other way to do this or anyway that's simple or easy, let us know. I'd be curious because it would be fun. I do. I publish a seasonal playlist every season to my friends and it would be fun if I could

Starting point is 00:06:40 throw something out to people every once in a while just to highlight bands I like or songs that I'm liking. You know, I feel like, you know, things that have taken off, you know, things that I've really enjoyed sharing with the podcast, fans are like mannequin posse's drunk too, that I feel like people really got into or stuff like that. I'd love to be able to kind of not just shout out artists, but throw up a song or put out something so that people can, can click and access it immediately. All right,

Starting point is 00:07:12 here we go. The next section just says plugs. Guess what? By now you've maybe heard, but perhaps not we're going back on tour, baby. We're coming to New York, Boston, Philly, DC, right? I didn't, I did it in the wrong order, but those are the cities. So if you're in those cities, we're going to be coming to you. And we'd love to see you come on out, get those tickets. You can get them right now. If you haven't already, I'm going to say this, I'm just going to go out on a limb, even though we're recording this early, they're all sold out. The shows are currently completely sold out. That may be not true. So if you're wondering, go to hdtgm.com for tour dates, purchase information, there's links there where you can go, get tickets, hopefully, my assumption is we've sold out all the shows in a manner that nobody can complain about.

Starting point is 00:08:08 And we're in every city that people wanted us to be in. Oh, yeah, without any disappointments that we're not coming to cities, I love when people are like, when we announce the cities, when people are like, why aren't you coming to, and either they say a city that is less than an hour from one of the cities we are going to, or they say like, why aren't you coming to a place that is on the other side of the country? We're doing an East Coast tour. Why aren't you coming to Albuquerque? What?

Starting point is 00:08:36 It's a hard, it's a hard pass, Albuquerque. I love the like UK tour, win, now. Question mark. Here's what I'll say. I and Molly thank you. Thank you for bringing that up. I would love to do a UK tour. I'd love to I want to come and do the Soho theater.

Starting point is 00:08:55 I want to come. I want to go and do Edinburgh and Dublin and I want to fucking go and do the UK. Do you motherfuckers out there think you'll come? Will you show up? Will enough people buy tickets to warrant us getting on a very long plane ride? So, you know, I'd like to know,

Starting point is 00:09:13 tell us how many tickets you're gonna buy, where you would like us to play in London or in what venues. You know what, you guys do the legwork. You, you, you, K fans, why don't you book the, how did this get made tour? Where should we play? How many people are you gonna bring?

Starting point is 00:09:33 And also, again, don't forget, what's your deal? Mm-hmm. Okay. What airport should we fly into? Oh, great question. He throw. He throw. Gatwick.

Starting point is 00:09:44 Gatwick. Oh, one wants to go catwik. I mean, it seems like the Newark of London, right? Definitely. That's a great slogan. Catwik, the Newark of London. Yeah, that's right. That's right, catwik. We've got your number.

Starting point is 00:10:02 Oh, man, people are going to be so mad at this episode. Wow. I can't wait for Paul to listen to this and be like, you spent an hour just talking about just yelling at fans and cities we didn't go to. And so you're berating fans that we are not even going to that to that, we're not even touring there. It's terrible. We're never going to be allowed back on last looks. This is it. No, this is the first. By the way, this is what last looks is now.

Starting point is 00:10:32 This is the round. Yeah. Burn the, there are no rules. Speaking of there are no rules, we have two new t-shirts for sale at tpublic.com. Seamless transition. Okay, the first one, and I'm just now seeing this, the first one is from a note I made in my notes. When I watch, I went and saw fast 10 fast X twice. I've been to the movies, as I said in the episode, three times in the last three and a half years, two of them were to see FastX. And the second time I went,

Starting point is 00:11:05 I was, let's say medium stone. Stone enough though, that I wrote in my notes, uh-oh, uh-mama-wa. And boy did I laugh at myself in my seat when I wrote that. And so much so that I read it. And now, look at this, it's a t-shirt. It's an uh-oh, uh-oh, mama-wa t-shirt. Although it's not a picture of mama interestingly,

Starting point is 00:11:24 I would have put a picture of Mamoa in, but it's a picture of the cellophane taped head of one of the corpses that Mamoa is interacting with in that very bizarre scene, where he's doing a puppet show with the tuk, where he's like basically, you know, we can at Bernie's style hanging out with two dead henchmen.

Starting point is 00:11:46 So it's a picture of one of those henchmen, face all taped up and an umbrella, a fancy umbrella drink. If anyone buys this shirt, please send us a photo of you wearing this in public. Oh, I'll go one better. Please send us a picture of you wearing this in public with your face all taped up with cellophane tape. Yeah. Listen, I've already got pushback saying

Starting point is 00:12:12 that this design is a little too disturbing and to them they say fuck you. What are you guys? Don't complain about the stuff. Guys, stop whining. Jeez, Louise. We also have a brand new, oh, look at this. I've been just now seeing this.

Starting point is 00:12:28 We have a brand new Largo shirt for all of our Los Angeles fans. So that means only people in Los Angeles can buy this shirt. I guess anyone else can buy this as well. So this is a T-shirt image, which is the stage of Largo. With the John Bryan piano, our three seats, the How To This Get Made logo, the red curtain, the famous Twinkly lights up top.

Starting point is 00:12:52 The only thing we're missing is the carpet the carpet that we sit on. But this is a great, I love this as, this feels like this is our home base. I love that. That's a that's a great t-shirt design. Love it. And if anyone is upset about the carpet, you can mail Jason your shirts and he'll put like some felt carpet on the shirt. Yeah. I'll I'll I'll staple some I'll staple some some carpet samples to your to your

Starting point is 00:13:21 shirt. And if you do get this shirt, get a picture of yourself wearing this shirt inside of Largo. Come on, guys. Face all taped up. Face all taped up. From now on, everything should have tape-faced guy. Yeah. All right, we're going to take a quick break. When we come back, we're going to hear your thoughts on FastX. And then we're going to do, We're gonna hear your thoughts on FastX. And then we're gonna do, so we do a thing now where Discord users submit a tagline and we choose one. Jesus Christ. And put a tag.

Starting point is 00:13:52 So if you want to take that again. So I'm doing other, I'm not taking it again. Keep all of this in. Keep everything in. This is all in. The less do you think we cut stuff out, nope. This is the whole deal. All right, so I'm going to read this through.

Starting point is 00:14:07 When we come back, we're going to hear your thoughts on FastX, a movie that should have had the tagline quote, the devil wears scrunchies unquote, that alt tagline was courtesy of discord user, Arkham player. So this is what I don't like. I would, hey, Arkham player, just send us your name. I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it.

Starting point is 00:14:28 I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it.

Starting point is 00:14:36 I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it.

Starting point is 00:14:44 I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like that. Hey, that's what I want to know. I want to know who submitted it. And I know our complainer is who you are, I guess, on the discord. Everybody's got to be like, we now know you play Arkham, I guess. Anyway, it's cool if I dress down the person who's done something nice and submitted something to the show, right?

Starting point is 00:15:02 That's a cool thing to do. Okay, great. So thank you, our complainer. If you want to submit your own tag line, hit up our discord at, oh boy, discord.gg, which I can only assume stands for Gilmore Girls, slash HD TGM, which I do know stands for how did this get made. So that's discord.gillmoregirls slash hdtgm. Oh, and we'll be right back.

Starting point is 00:15:29 Go to the break. Boom. All right, back. We're back. Let's get into it. We had questions about FastX. We might even miss some stuff. You guys have thoughts.

Starting point is 00:15:41 I'm sure in fact, this whole segment is exactly about that. You and your dumb thoughts. So here we go. Let's do the theme song for corrections and omissions. This is its own theme song. I'm there so I'm gonna school again It could have I worked you know Perfect perfect wow these so far home runs both songs have been home runs loved that when thank you bomb-aid beach revival I you check them out.

Starting point is 00:16:31 You know, I think we're one of the biggest selling bands. The huge band now. We've given them a platform huge band. Well, let's go to the Discord all caps, all bold. And once again, I don't care for the fact that I'm having to read these from the people's screen names. Okay, so this is from Get Ready for it. Time bomb man. Paul hypothesizes that the rock might have only agreed to come back to the franchise if John Cena's character is killed off. I have a different theory. This is to be clear, time bomb

Starting point is 00:17:05 man's theory, not mine. I am giving voice to someone else's theory. I do not stand by this. I've not read this yet. So I just want to make sure me, Jason Manzookus, I don't stand by time bomb man, but this is his theory. I have a different theory, Colin. I think the final scene where they reveal Giselle to be alive makes less sense as the final scene of the movie and more as a post-credits scene. So my theory is that the rock gave in to come back to the franchise when Black Adam tanked and he got put aside in the DC film's power struggle. So they filmed a new post-credits scene revealing his return and tacked Gal Gadot scene onto

Starting point is 00:17:46 the end of the movie instead of ending with the cut to the black after the damn explosion. Okay. Time, bumman. I think you're 100% right. Not only do I think you're 100% right, I think you have been proven true definitively by the tireless reporting of Griffin Newman on the blank check podcast. No, I apologize. I take it back fully. It is Griffin Newman, but he's on high and mighty. He's on John Gabriel's high and mighty podcast, which I hardly recommend to everyone. They, as we have

Starting point is 00:18:21 been for many years, going through the fast and furious movies with Adam Scott and most recently with Seth Rogan and Evan Goldberg, Gaboris and Griffin have been going through them as well on Gaboris' podcast, High and Mighty, which is fantastic. Griffin on that episode talked at length about talking to someone who had seen a preview of this movie of FastX in which there was no rock post-credits scene. And indeed, as time bomb man hypothesizes, Gal Gadot's submarine cameo was the post-credits scene. So, wow, we can cross that off.

Starting point is 00:19:02 You did it time bomb man. You nailed it. And also, I'm delighted to be able to shut out. Hiya, Mighty, Gaboris's hilarious podcast. You know him most recently from his episode of our podcast that he was just at at Largo, which was Torque, right? Yeah. And yes, where he ate a spider. Where he ate a spider.

Starting point is 00:19:22 I was just going to say. I didn't have anything to ask you about this, Jason. Oh, really? About when Abrus ate a spider that was descending from the ceiling. I was far away in the theater, so I wanted to get the truth. He, he 100% ate it. Is that correct? Oh, oh, let me be absolutely clear.

Starting point is 00:19:43 He 100%. So there was a spider descending from the ceiling center stage, you know, a couple of feet in front of June. It wasn't gonna hit any of us or anything like that, but it was descending in a way that the light was hitting it. So you could see it. It was very visible at a certain point in its descent. And so I think I said something or Gabor,

Starting point is 00:20:06 so I can't remember who said something first, but Gabor's jumped up in an effort to take care of it because it was getting to head height. And it seemed as though he was gonna grab it. You know, it was also a small spider. It wasn't a big spider, let's be clear. It's not like a tarantula or something. But anyway, it looked like he was just gonna grab it

Starting point is 00:20:25 and get rid of it. And instead, he went up to it, puckered his lips like he was gonna kiss it and sucked in. He sucked it, he sucked it, he sucked it in with his breath. He sucked it in like with his breath. Like, and just, it was gone. And I, I like fully short-circuited.

Starting point is 00:20:48 And gay, I will say a little peak behind the scenes. Gabris Backstage, afterwards, said, when he got up to take care of the spider, he didn't think he was gonna eat it. He just thought he was gonna grab it and that he himself was surprised. Listen. He smelled how delicious it was up close

Starting point is 00:21:10 and he just couldn't resist. Wow. One thing led to another next thing you know, he's eating the spider. Holy shit. Is Peter coming after us for this? Go Jesus. Oh my God, I hope not.

Starting point is 00:21:21 They're all up in the room. You might not have seen this, you might not have seen this Jason because you're not on social media, but around a month later, Pat and Oswald tweeted a photo from Largo where a spider was also descending upon the stage. What? His show.

Starting point is 00:21:37 Oh, there's a net. Some sort of, some sort of nest. Okay. I don't know. Can we, can we add a spider's nest or a descending spider to the Largo T shirt? Yes, because we're already going back in to put the rug in. So great. Absolutely. And the spider has a taped up face. Oh, I like this. See, this is great. See, this is this is the kind, this is the kind of last looks episode that you guys are having. Rolicking fun, we're getting shit done.

Starting point is 00:22:07 Okay. See, this is what I'm talking about. So this next correction and omission comes from Dr. Guts, one thousand and three. I mean, time submitter. Is it really long time submitter? Thank you Dr. Guts for your continued support of the show. But can that mean that this person, when they tried to submit, there were a thousand and two Dr. Guts' on the discord? It could be. I mean, what? How does that happen? I would love, I would love Dr. Guts. Oh, you know what, here's the thing.

Starting point is 00:22:45 If you're not gonna put your real name in because I guess everybody wants to be anonymous on whatever the internet and so forth, if you don't wanna give your real name because boy, what I like to say, Dr. Gutz, what I like to say, okay, this is coming from so and so, your real name, explain. Why am I calling you Dr. Gutz?

Starting point is 00:23:02 Well, okay, how about this? As a recurring segment on last looks, a peek behind the login name or whatever this is. What's this call? An avatar? No, that's not an avatar. That's a pick username. What is this?

Starting point is 00:23:14 User name. User name. Yeah, user name. Okay, great. How about that as a segment? What's the story behind Dr. Guts, 2003? Anyway, who cares? Dr. Guts thousand and three rights when

Starting point is 00:23:25 little b tells jayke of that he doesn't like to fly was that simply meant to be an innocuous comment that a kid his age would say or was the movie implying that little b fully remembers what happened to him on the plane in fate of the furious including his mom alaina getting killed and getting carried around by shot in the middle of his shootout. I don't think that that is, Dr. Guetz, I don't think the movie is suggesting that the baby remembers those events. I think it seemed as though the movie was trying to set up this idea of a little bee being a nervous flyer,

Starting point is 00:24:09 so that it would be, that would be heightened when they take a child to the cargo part of an airplane, put him into a, I don't know, a two-seat glider or whatever that mini airplane is, an airplane that looks like a canoe in a bag. It looks like John Cena is walking around with a canoe in a bag or a kayak rather in a bag. And instead, it is a miniature airplane that barely seats two people. And then the doors open and that plane,

Starting point is 00:24:45 like just falls into the sky. So no, Dr. Guts, one thousand and three, I don't think the movie was implying that little B remembers what happened, especially because if you remember, uh, Decker Cha put, uh, noise canceling headphones on baby during the shootout action sequence. And then ultimately when they jumped out of an airplane together, I didn't think about that. That was the second time he's jumped out of an airplane. Oh, yeah. This kid loves falling out of airplanes. It's like part of it's baked into his thing. Okay. So now in all caps and bold, it says, let's go to the foes. Zero three. I don't know why I'm saying zero three. That's just the

Starting point is 00:25:26 Scott Q number. So ignore the number and just say, I'm going to go one better. I'm going to go one better. Tech Q number zero three is from anonymous. Let's hear it. So back in December, I was part of a test screening for 5x and one thing they did remove from the official version is that Reacher and Jason Nemoa or Brothers, their dad mentioned work with your brother. All right. Let me show you. Bye. Fascinating.

Starting point is 00:26:05 Really interesting. This, also a revelation in the high-end mighty episode that Gabriel and Griffin Newman talked about. This was also discussed. And I think this is super interesting. And I'm genuinely curious why they abandoned that because I like the idea of Mamoa and Reacher being brothers. I think that's compelling because it's family versus family.

Starting point is 00:26:32 And I like that. And I mean, obviously Mamoa is the son of the villain from that movie. So it is still an element of family, but it would be cool to have this be family, like Hatfields and McCoy's, like let's build a true, if this is gonna be three movies,

Starting point is 00:26:52 why not have it be a family versus family? Why not continue to build out the Mamoa richer family into more and more viable bad guys? I would love that instead of just singular bad guys who inevitably end up good guys, you know, that's the, that's the trajectory most fast and furious movies run, which is, you know, Charlize is the bad guy now she comes

Starting point is 00:27:17 and she's helping the good guys, you know, stathom is the bad guy, then he comes in and is a good guy. So, you know, who is on the team, not a good guy, but on the team, rather, part of, he baked into the family. And even, you know, Reacher has that whole thing where he basically does a full previously on fast and furious, like a 20 minute, 20 minute previously on where he just, he just plays clips from the old movies, Like somehow, think about this. Somehow the agency,

Starting point is 00:27:48 Reacher has access to the footage of the movies faster. Furious because he's not playing surveillance footage. He's not playing drone footage. He's not playing any kind of the kind of footage that anybody in that world would be playing. He's playing like 4K VFX, like hard closeups of Vin, like driving through the street. He's playing clips from the movies. I feel like we didn't talk about this enough on the show. This was next level nonsense when he did the whole breakdown. I love that this movie costs,

Starting point is 00:28:28 what would we say, like, $304 million, one of those two and they couldn't afford, just like shoot a few little extra, you know, so have a second unit team go out there and get some footage for this. Well, okay, here's my theory on this though. And this is my theory on the why of it, because I would say arguably

Starting point is 00:28:47 35% of act one of fast x is recycled footage from fast five, right? That way fast five is the Brazil one, right? Yes, right. Okay. Is just reused footage from fast five. Specifically, is just reused footage from fast five. Specifically, the bank vault heist. So in my mind, I feel like the move they're trying to pull is they're using what is inarguably everybody's most favorite set piece, most favorite movie, most favorite fast and furious practical stunt and they're basically putting

Starting point is 00:29:25 it in act one to get us hyped and to be like, don't worry, this movie is directly related to your favorite fast movie. And they're, they're, it's like, I feel like it's a trick to get us all excited because we love that heist. We love that chase. We love that, that we love that thing. And so by showing it to us again, it's like, I feel like it's a, it's a trick to get us to, to have, it's getting us on board for this movie before this movie's even started really. Okay. Um, let's see.

Starting point is 00:29:58 Tech Q zero four. Brett from Los Angeles. He called. I have hold on. I'm gonna stop you right there. First of all, Brett from Los Angeles, you fucking blew it. Boo. You said, Hey, Paul.

Starting point is 00:30:15 All right. How, first of all, Brett from my town, Los Angeles, how dare you? How dare you not anticipate that Paul would be unavailable for this recording and I would have to fill in last minute. How dare you, Brett? You are thin ice, Brett, from Los Angeles. Thin ice. You would just in a party to care of them. Oh, really?

Starting point is 00:30:41 Mm-hmm. Nice. Nice. All right, let's do it. Franchise is when it solves all the cliffhangers at the end of Stratx. And I think this character is in Charlie Sparons character. She shows up to Don's house at the beginning of the movie in Adelora. And I think that is the movie, which is a universal project like Back to the Future was,

Starting point is 00:31:03 is calling it shut. The franchise has gone to space, so what else did they have her to do but break the space time continuum by using fact cars to go back in time and save everyone's life, possibly even going back to the Brazil set piece from five and stopping the mode is bad from being killed. I think that's how Charlie Stern's character, I think he sure is, that technology, and that's how she brought back to Alga.

Starting point is 00:31:31 And yeah, I hope you're having a good day. Bye. You know, here's the thing, Brett from Los Angeles. I wish I want you to be right. I would love if these movies somehow, like we are, we are truly at the bleeding edge of what these, what these movies can now do. We are, they are so far past having now gone to space. Wait, wasn't the space car also a delorean? Or no, was it something that was like an old beat up car? Oh, okay.

Starting point is 00:32:07 Um, so, like they've been to space, the Venn driving down the dam, like we really are, have completely gone past believable physics, science, all of the stuff, they, we really are, these people can't be killed. They are essentially Avengers level superheroes. Now, this is a superhero team and the tropes and the plotting and the characters

Starting point is 00:32:33 and all of the stuff that they're using now, especially juxtaposed as we just recently did to the first movie, the tropes and everything they're using. Now, our straight out of Marvel DC playbook, like really big giant, huge life or death set pieces that defy all reason and physical possibilities. So why not lean into that? Why not step directly over the line and say, yeah, great, we're going to do time travel. So I didn't I read somewhere that somebody was trying to pose, somebody was trying to

Starting point is 00:33:06 like get them to do a crossover fast and furious with the Jurassic Park franchises that those two things should meet up? I don't know that, but I hope so. I would love that. I would love that. I think that would be great. I'm all forked because to me, we are really pushing the limits here with where these characters and where this franchise can go.

Starting point is 00:33:29 It either has to go back to basics and just be about cars and whatever again, or I think some wild choice like Brett from Los Angeles's Time Travel Story. I don't think the Delorean is hinting at Time Travel. I do think it's a fun Easter egg though to be like, oh, here's a Delorean. Here's a famous nostalgic car from our pop culture past. You actually hit it on the money right there, little added context I found. So in an interview with Collider, director, Louis Latteray, said the idea of the Delorean started as a joke when

Starting point is 00:34:05 fans began speculating about the possibility of time travel in the 10th Fast Soccer Film. And they even theorized that Jacob Treddo's canon car could in fact be a time machine. Production got the idea to slip a Delorean into the movie as a little nod to the fans' time travel speculation. Great. I love that. And that's, that's what, that. Great. I love that. And that's, that's what I, that's fun. I like that.

Starting point is 00:34:27 I like that these movies have fun doing stuff like that because I do think there's an element to these movies, which is very fun too. As we've done for years now, speculate, prognosticate, predict like the, with the idea that we years ago said they would go to space. We called it Helen Marin was going to come in. We've, there's so many things that we have said we want and then they've done them inexplicably. The only thing that we haven't, we've said repeatedly that they have not done is put us in these movies.

Starting point is 00:34:57 So I will once again say to everybody who's listening, you got to put us in these goddamn movies. What the fuck is going on? At this point, it's frankly rude. Tech Q5 Josh from Ontario, Canada. What's up Paul, Jason June. This is Josh from Mrs. Saga, Ontario, Canada. And I listened to your FASTX podcast.

Starting point is 00:35:20 It was fantastic. I just have a question. I'm surprised no one actually mentioned this but you know the plot twist that alan richson his character is now you know he's also bad guy that means we have two aqua because alan richson was aqua not small bill and

Starting point is 00:35:38 you play them for quite a bit uh... arguably longer than jason mimoa and you and you know's like just a huge in Jason Momoa physically. So, a couple things, no one mentioned it. Is this a multiverse thing? Like, what if Fast and Furious ends up being the Flashpoint movie?

Starting point is 00:35:56 We got Hobbs, Dom, and Esmeralder. I don't know. Anyway, just want to know what you guys think. Thank you so much. You guys are amazing. I love your show and keep up the great work. Josh from Ontario, thank you so much. Great question or great observation.

Starting point is 00:36:10 I did not know that Reacher had played Aquaman. I did not, I didn't watch, I'm assuming this is on the Flash TV show or one of the, one of the, thank you, you said, oh, we said smallville. I missed that. Sorry, apologies. Oh, on smallville. Oh, he said smallville. I missed that. Sorry. Apologies. Oh, on smallville.

Starting point is 00:36:27 Oh, so even so quite a while ago. Okay. Oh, that's interesting. I'm, you know, he'll always be richer to me as Billy Joel once sang. And I loved him in the movie. And I like that it's two Aquaman together. And I think that's cool. Again, I like that it's too Aquaman together. And I think that's cool. Again, I love the idea that was brought up earlier.

Starting point is 00:36:48 Bring us, make them brothers. Why not? I think it only strengthens the villain's story, a story which I'm already enjoying. I really loved if I wasn't clear about it. I loved the way they threaded Mamoa into the larger, fast and furious cannon. I thought it was, I thought it was like a smart move. And, and I thought made it really

Starting point is 00:37:12 interesting and gave him like a real, a viable motivation revenge. Great. I love it. Give me more revenge. I have a really good pitch and it's going to be really bad. That I said it was good. But what if we brought in Vince from Entourage who plays Aquaman and Entourage? Wait, Adrian Grignet? Yes. So then it's three Aquaman. Whoa, whoa, whoa. This is huge.

Starting point is 00:37:36 This is some wild stuff right here. I love this idea. Thank you. I would love that. And I'm all four. I will once again say I'm all four, um, any collapsing of fast and furious into another franchise flashpoint style. Um, you know, I don't think it has to be the DC EU or any of that stuff.

Starting point is 00:37:59 I, like I said before, I love the idea of being Jurassic Park. I love the idea. Why can't, I love, I used to love the idea for a while. There was a movie being written that was Men in Black plus 21 Jump Street, which I think is hilarious. But why not have the Fast and Furious team become men in black? Why not have them start fighting aliens?

Starting point is 00:38:21 Like why not? Why not take, it's no more ridiculous than what's already happened. And in fact, would be a better setting for the kind of high jinks, the kind of high stakes high jinks that the fast crew are now up to. You know, we can't do, I don't think, just races anymore, street races. This isn't a street level franchise now. It's spent so much time in outer space, in mid air, on water, on ice. This is not street level anymore. So why not put them on another planet?

Starting point is 00:38:56 Why not? Okay, fast 10, or rather fast 11, or 12, I guess. Now, why not? Here it is. Ready? Portal. There's a portal. They have to drive through a portal. What's on the other side?

Starting point is 00:39:10 Where does it put them? Boom. That's what I want to know. They all drive through the portal. How about that? I think it takes them to the moon and we have a moonfall crossover. Fuck. Oh, dude.

Starting point is 00:39:21 Or we go Dungeons and Dragons. Michelle Rodriguez, the portal that has the Palshier portrait. Yep. I love that. That's how we pivot. And I love the and let he plays both. Yes. Both characters meeting each other. I love us. I love that. Okay. Anyway, I really like that. Great. Josh from Ontario. Oh, no, rather. Yeah. Yeah. Great question about Reacher and all the Aquaman stuff. Shout out to Canada. You know what?

Starting point is 00:39:50 Here's my question for you in Canada. What role would you like Jared Kiso, Wayne from Letter Kenny to play in the Fast and Furious universe? Cause that's who I want in these movies. I'm happy Reacher's here, but give me, give me Jared Kiso in Fast and Furious universe, because that's who I want in these movies. I'm happy Reachers here, but give me, give me Jared Kiso in Fast and Furious. Also, give me Jared Kiso as Wolverine in the MCU. You idiots. He's Canadian, he's ripped, he's hilarious.

Starting point is 00:40:18 Give me Jared Kiso as Wolverine. All right, coming up, I'm going to have more of your corrections, more of your omissions, more of your inexplicable theme songs. There's gonna be a bunch of stuff, including get ready for it in a little while, colonize conversation with Aloneprozen contestant, Wonea Tibo. We talk all about Aloneprozen with her. It is an incredible conversation. Stick around for that, whether you're a fan of Al a loan or not, I think you'll really enjoy it.

Starting point is 00:40:45 We're gonna talk about what next week's movie is rather, and at the very end of this episode, I'm gonna share an exclusive deleted scene from our FastX show. So, guess what, stick around. How did this get me? We're back, baby, we're back. I hope you just fast forwarded through some commercials. Probably shouldn't say that. Tech Q6, Adam from Upstate New York.

Starting point is 00:41:12 Hey, Polynesians. This is Adam Collins from Upstate New York for the FastX Last List episode. So before last list came out, I knew I need to rewatch all the movies again, but that would take a very long time so i threw a party where i got to get a friend many of them had never seen movies for and we watched all my movies simultaneously on one screen with all of them playing their sound at the same time

Starting point is 00:41:36 that's absolutely fucking credible even people haven't seen one before loved it they were blown away we had bingo game with questions like Vin on three screens, no engine sounds, and Dom and Letti making out. That one was a little bit hard to get because they don't actually make out that much in movies. So I have two questions for you guys. Number one, with FastX out of the mix, what's a great bingo question for the next time I'll watch before Fast11?

Starting point is 00:42:03 And number two, what other franchise could possibly work as well to watch all the movies at the next time I'll watch before fast 11. And number two, what other franchise could possibly work as well to watch all the movies at the same time? Thanks, love the show. Bye. Huh. Okay. Well, this seems like Adam from Upstate New York. Thank you for your question. That sounds like a great party. But now you've given me homework. I got to come up with your bingo questions. I've got a, it seems like you're given me a problem here. I'm asking for solutions, guys. You know, what's a big, what's a great bingo question? I don't know, I mean, I think, what's a, it's bingo.

Starting point is 00:42:34 No, it's not a drinking game. So it's just something that has to happen once. Cause I was gonna say a good, a good bingo, a good drinking game question would be anytime there's a flashback drink, just because, you know, you'd be wasted in the first five minutes. Waukey talkies. Oh, yeah. You know what we didn't talk about in the episode that I would like to speak to briefly for a moment now, because I forgot, and I'd written it down in my notes, and I was frustrated afterwards, was

Starting point is 00:43:01 so often in the movie. Jason Mamoah and it's primarily Jason Mamoah and Vin Diesel's characters are separated by, I mean, they're each in different cars on different roads. They are completely separate from each other, but they are having an active conversation. They are not on comms together. They are not connected to each other,

Starting point is 00:43:28 but they are just speaking out loud in their individual cars as if they've just heard what the other has said in their car. And it's fucking nuts. It's absolutely nuts. There were so many moments that I was like, are they on, are they linked? Are they on comms together and they're not,

Starting point is 00:43:50 they're not at all. So if you watch the movie, just watch how often people are talking out loud in their cars at a conversational level, as if someone on a cliff above them can hear them. It's like when, when Mamoah is gonna send Dom down the dam, you know, Mamoah is like out of his car, he's got a computer set up, he's on a cliff top,

Starting point is 00:44:14 and Dom and Little B are in the car on the edge of the dam with two semi trucks next to them, going, and Mamoah and Vin are having a conversation. That them going, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, and the reality is they cannot. So what the fuck, what a, what a magic trick that this movie pulls off by forcing conversations that are completely not happening. Anyway, tech Q, zero seven, J from Austin, Texas. Hey guys, this is J from Austin and I just wanted to share with you the story about

Starting point is 00:45:02 how you guys inadvertently got me a raise. So the story of my name is that I work at a dog room or is a beta. And I'm normally in the back, bathing dogs, having a head spin in, I'm listening to how this came all day. And my co-worker says, I've become used to hearing me just laughing all day, I'm listening to the episodes.

Starting point is 00:45:20 But recently I ran out of how this came made episodes. I was listening to audiobooks and stuff. And this prompted my employer to pull me aside one day and just be like, hey, man, I just want to make sure you're still happy here. And that you're doing okay and that's not going to need. And we're going to go ahead and bump your pay. And I really believe that this is because they couldn't hear me laughing at how the biscuit made up a so.

Starting point is 00:45:47 And I'm not listening to this, it's probably to detect my general demeanor. So you guys are good for mental health, you guys are good for your financially, and you just in general rock. So keep it up. And a real quick omission for the said uh... along with the jason spirit domino christ like journey here is actually a song

Starting point is 00:46:11 in the official soundtrack in which one of the lyrics are like jesus i'm walking on water uh... maybe not that far off i think they actually are trying to make that comparison. Keep it good work. I love it and you do. Thanks, Y'all. Wow.

Starting point is 00:46:29 Jay from Austin, that's a great, a great bit of, tidbit of information. I absolutely think this movie, I think Vin Diesel inside of his control of these movies is only more and more framing Dom as a Christ-like figure in so much so make no mistake the central Act to beginning of act to set peace is Dom saves the Vatican. He saves the Pope's life He saves the Vatican. life. He saves the Vatican. This is a religious movie. This is a religious movie, except the religion is fast and furious.

Starting point is 00:47:12 It is, I feel like there is a degree of heresy and suggesting that Dom is so holy. I mean, even Christ was able to be killed. Dom survived everything. Let's be killed. Dom, survived everything. Let's be real. Dom doesn't need to be resurrected. He's never going to die. It's so true. He is invincible in a way that is Dom God. Wow.

Starting point is 00:47:36 No, Dom is better than God, I think, is what you're saying. I may be. I'd be interested. You know, they've had so much, you know, so many religious stories have resurrection as the story. There is a way in which Dom Christlike is able to raise the dead Lazarus style as numerous of the people in these movies.

Starting point is 00:47:59 That will be, if he can, if they can raise, um, uh, Elena from, uh, the dead, that will be incredible because that really, that's a feat. She was point blank assassinated. So that would, that's the real triumph if they can do it. Go ahead. I was saying you were talking earlier about like what other genres of movies could the Fast and Furious merge with and we were talking about bringing Elena back from the dead.

Starting point is 00:48:26 Like, what if we had a zombie horror movie? Great. Love it. That's a great, like, what if Fast and Furious, but the threat isn't a revenge seeking Jason Mamoa or a cyber terrorist attack from Charlize, it is the walking dead. It is like a, it is like a, it's a fast zombies. And maybe the zombies can drive. They can definitely drive. And I think it has to be, it has to be the hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians they've killed over

Starting point is 00:48:57 the course of these movies coming back to get their revenge. Well, the first one's got to be my Moa's henchman, right? Oh, yes. Yeah. I was just saying that through the face tape guys. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. That would see that would be interesting to me. I would love that. I would love I really did like the idea that Mamoah's revenge was predicated on something a death that our team didn't even think about. You know what I mean? Like just the casual murder of, of, of, of Momoa's dad, again, by, by Hobbs. Like it was, Vinn didn't even, if Momoa's target

Starting point is 00:49:37 is like the person who killed my dad, well why don't you first go after the person who literally killed your dad Hobbs? I, it makes no sense that he targets Vin first, but Vin is, you know, the most, I think powerful person on earth who's and lives in a small house in Echo Park. What is this? Tech Q eight, Alicia. See, isn't this much, you know what I'm not saying? Here's a call from Dr. Guts, one thousand and three people on the phone know, you know what? I'm calling in. It's me, Alicia, or hey, it's me, Jay. Hey, it's good to talk to you. It's Adam from upstate New

Starting point is 00:50:17 York. Hey, I'm happy to be talking to you guys. But if you're writing in on the whatever, you're like, hey, it's me, you know, whatever. Captain Jizz 76, like I don't know what this is. Like, you get a lot of calls from Captain Jizz 76, okay. I don't doubt it. Okay. Alicia, go. Hi, Paul. My name is Alicia.

Starting point is 00:50:41 I have seen all the news. How dare you? I watched all the fast episodes of How To Disgit Made. I just wanted to talk about something about the franchise as a whole. I know something you guys go back to a lot is that there is no sexuality between them and Levy. It's very dry, especially starting from the middle and then going back to one and seeing that iconic motorboding scene is very charming to say to me. So I just want to let you know I don't know if it's been brought up before but Michelle and Ben were in a budding

Starting point is 00:51:15 relationship in the filming of Fast One. It must have been like playing Peter and MJ. So that motorboating was probably a very natural improv from Vin at that time. And then I imagine you break up, and now we just have him talking to her room just hopeful. Something I thought was fun was that Michelle said something does some magazine at the time saying what she loved about then what really reeled her in was that deep gravely hoist. So that's all thank you. All right that's interesting. I you know I think these movies have no have no real you know there's no real

Starting point is 00:52:03 sexuality or chemistry inside of them. I don't know that they're interested in interrogating that part of life. They seem to be much more focused on family as it as it me as if to mean family friendly. You know, like I think that this isn't these aren't stories about people who have a lot of sex. These are about people who kill a lot of people, which is family friendly, which is family friendly here in America. We love, we love our heroes to not really fuck, but definitely murder. As long as it's the bad guys, as long as it's the bad guys. Yeah, that's interesting.

Starting point is 00:52:44 I did not know that. That's interesting. I love the detail she gave that Michelle Rodriguez said, it's that raspy voice that gets you like just imagining Vind being like, you had me on hello. I love it. I would love it. I would love it if Vind's move was to quote Jerry McGuire. Yeah, listen, I hope that there's people out there who like a raspy voice.

Starting point is 00:53:15 That's great. That's good news for me. I also, I found a quote where Vince told Entertainment Weekly, one of the biggest blessings of the franchise is my relationship with Michelle. And then referencing their characters from the film Vin explained, I've been told that the Don Lutty Love Story is potentially the biggest love story

Starting point is 00:53:36 that we've seen in cinema. What? By who? By the same people that come up to Trump with tears in their eyes? To tell them what a hero he is? That's like people that come up to Trump with tears in their eyes to tell them what a what a hero he is, that's like, that's positively Trumpian. They're coming to me. They're saying they've got tears in their eyes. They can't believe it. They said, it's the greatest

Starting point is 00:53:53 love story. Now I'm just, wait, I do a Trump. What is this? I don't, I don't do a Trump. That was terrible. Anyway, cut that. Just kidding. Keep it in. Um, um, but that's a, that's preposterous. The idea that the Dom Letty love story is potentially the biggest love story we've ever seen in cinema is absolute insanity. And I love that Vinn believes it. I love it. Incredible stuff. That's, that's a great quote, great find. All right. Back to the discord Elaine Smithy writes, looking at the scene in Rio where Dom and Dante's gangs face off with each other is Rio so laid back that walls of people pointing guns at each other non-plus to the party goers around them. The drone shot shows both gangs surrounded by crowds dancing all around them instead of, you know, fleeing. Yeah, I agree. This is something that's now come up quite a bit in movies is, you know, huge action

Starting point is 00:54:52 movies set piece driving gunplay craziness unfolds in large group activity nightclub, street race, city streets, whatever. And everybody seems like, oh, come on, I'm just trying to get to work. They seem like unimpressed or unflustered by like nuts level stuff happening around them. So I agree that was pretty crazy. Elaine at the end of her thing that I didn't read says, zoos, that's me. The new Beach Fossils album, Bunny, is out now, and it's phenomenal.

Starting point is 00:55:26 And Elaine, I agree. The new Beach Fossils record, one of my favorite bands, has a new record, it's called Bunny, and it's great. And it's abs, there are two songs in that, on that album that are on my spring playlist. So eat shit. So that's it for corrections that omissions this week. Uh, there can only be one that is the best. And this week's best, oh, I have to pick a winner. Yeah. And you're right. You know what? I'm going to pick, I'm going to pick, um, oh, I'm going

Starting point is 00:55:58 to shout out Adam from upstate New York simply because I loved this. I want other people to replicate the concurrent simultaneous all now 10 movie rewatch. So next time we do this, I would love Adam. Please write in to remind us of your methodology, which is to show all nine movies on nine different screens concurrently with people there to watch and lose their mind. Because to me, that sounds like how they drive, that sounds like a clockwork orange. Absolutely. So Adam from Upstate New York, you're the winner.

Starting point is 00:56:38 I don't know what you win. I hope it's nothing because this is not really winning. We're not an amazing song. They win an amazing song. Oh, winners theme. because this is not really winning. We're in an amazing song. They win an amazing song. Oh, winners theme, tech, tech Q12. Okay, and it's once again courtesy of Rob from Long Island, who I previously said sounded like a magnetic field song, huge compliment, by the way.

Starting point is 00:56:58 One of my all time favorite records of all time, a hundred-one love songs. Or rather, no, take that out, actually edit that, 69 love songs. That is the right one. It's a hundred-one love songs. Or rather, no, take that out. Actually, edit that. 69 love songs. That is the right one. It's 101. The other one is, what's the other one? 101 Dalmatians.

Starting point is 00:57:12 No, the other Steven Merritt record that's, keep all of this in. Keep all of this. Keep this meltdown in. Here we go. I'm gonna look it up while this song plays from Rob from Long Island in order to celebrate the other guy from upstate New York, Adam, I think from upstate New York, and a little

Starting point is 00:57:32 shout out to Elaine Smithy who herself shouted out, Beach Fossils, a terrific, jangly rock band. Here we go 50 song memoir that's the one I'm remembering sorry, I was on the tip of my tongue. I almost had it 50 song memoir also great wonderful, but 69 love songs wow like like truly incredible record devastating songs Come back from San San Francisco, makes me cry every time. Really great stuff. Anyway, here we go. That was the winners theme. If you want to chime in with your own thoughts about this latest episode or about other stuff in general, about this episode that I've done or the FastX or anything really, go to the discord. Once again, that is discord.gg slash HDTGM or call us right here at 619 PAULASK. That's 619 Paul Ask. Okay, so you've likely noticed here on how did this get made that your feed is picking up on Mondays,

Starting point is 00:58:46 old episodes of the show that were pulling out of the vault and were putting them back into rotation. So many of your favorite episodes that perhaps were behind the paywall are now out and going wild. This week's Matt and I Monday was action Jackson with Seth Rogen, great episode, very fun. I remember it fondly. Next week's Matt name Monday though, is holy shit guys, this is real, so get fucking ready.

Starting point is 00:59:10 Next week's episode, we are re-releasing into the wild, dropped Ed Fred. Now, this is some next level nonsense. This episode is, for me, I mean, top three episodes of the podcast as a performer, as to top three episodes, maybe top one episode for like my favorite episode to have done, to have been on stage at the Wilshire eBell backstage first hanging out with my friends, having a great time. We walked on stage and proceeded to scream at the top of our lungs at each other for two

Starting point is 00:59:49 hours straight. Standing, we barely sat. It was, I mean, one of the most insane experiences in the podcast's history, and we've been doing this podcast now for 22 years. This is crazy. So that episode is coming out and not for nothing, it's a bit of a preview for our drop dead Fred vinyl, which is dot, dot, dot, on its way.

Starting point is 01:00:15 Can I say that? Yeah, it's on its way. It's coming to you. It's on its way. Some of you might have your grubby little paws on it right now as we speak. I don't know. You might be, but guys, put it in a, put it in a, like put it in, you know, get, like

Starting point is 01:00:31 to put it, keep it well, put it in a slip case, be good to it, you know. Um, so here we are, we're going to be putting out drop dead Fred. So check it out. It's a great episode. You can, you can hear the moment where Casey Wilson's vocal cord bursts. Um, she had to go on vocal rest after this episode because it was just too much, too much. Team sanity, weak vocal cords. Okay. On today's just chat, we're doing something a little different. Occasionally, Paul and I interview guests, usually a friend who's appeared on how to

Starting point is 01:01:04 this get made before, usually to talk about something they're excited about or something they have been working on, but not today. Paul, June and myself are all super fans of today's guest and the show that she has appeared on multiple seasons of. You've probably heard me talk about alone for years. Paul and June as well. I mean, truly one of my favorite shows, the show is if you haven't heard of it or you don't know it or haven't heard me talk about it, 10 people are placed alone in incredibly difficult wilderness living circumstances, Antarctica, or rather not Antarctica, the Arctic, Northern Canada, Vancouver, Island, Argentina, all of these places where they

Starting point is 01:01:50 are put in very difficult conditions and it is a survival game. Who can last the longest wins? Sometimes it's a half a million dollars, sometimes it's a million dollars. It's incredible. They are their own camera crews. They are not being watched. They are their own camera crews. They are not being watched. They are alone. It is a psychological game where people

Starting point is 01:02:09 lose their entire minds. And that's compelling television. So I was very excited to talk to Wownia. I don't wanna give it away, but we do talk about it on the episode. If you don't wanna know, well, it doesn't matter. I'm just going to say it. She won alone frozen and we do talk about it in the episode.

Starting point is 01:02:32 So spoilers for the end of a lone frozen. I just spoiled it for you. But guess what? You should have watched it already. I don't care about spoiling it for you because here's the beauty of it. The show works even if you know who's won because guys, the journey is the destination. Kaboom, nailed it, the journals of Dan Eldon. It's a book, it's great, that's the title.

Starting point is 01:02:55 I'm really now two hours into this and I am. I have lost my, I don't know how long this episode is, but I've been talking for two hours. I think this is the first seven-year episode. This is going to be the first last looks longer than the actual movie episode. Great, great. So we have a just chat theme song from Anton do on the show, but I really wanted to have you on because not only am I a fan of alone, but Jason is a giant fan of alone.

Starting point is 01:03:54 He got me into it. Huge fan, like so exciting. Could not be more excited that you're here, frankly. And you know, for me, I feel like I watch that show and I never get any closure. I don't know what happened. I don't know what happens beyond. So I happen to be on vacation with my family.

Starting point is 01:04:12 And just by happenstance, you were on the same place doing a lecture about your experiences and promoting your amazing new book, which is coming out, uh, never alone. And I loved hearing your story and I was kind of just blown away by everything that we don't see and your entire experience about being there. I just found it to be utterly fascinating. And so, uh, you know, I reached out to you to say, can you come on this show where we talk

Starting point is 01:04:44 about bad movies, but we're show where we talk about bad movies, but we're not gonna talk about bad movies with you. We're gonna talk about your survival journey, because you literally, you are the first female winner of a alone solitary survival challenge, right? You have that. You came in second place on the show as well. Like, you have been out there.

Starting point is 01:05:03 You have really gone through it. And I just found your story absolutely fascinating. So welcome. Well, thank you. I'm really happy to be here. I'm glad to follow up on our brief meeting back in Montana. Yeah. Wonderful. Yeah. This is as somebody who's been watching alone since the beginning. This is incredibly exciting for me, both because I watched you just crush season six. And then really, I found alone frozen has been one of my favorite seasons of alone,

Starting point is 01:05:38 simply because it allowed for me to watch you especially but all the contestants change strategies and change tactics and exist in similar situations, but change how you approached it. And that I thought was really fascinating and really interesting, both on a practical level and I would love to talk about on a psychological level, you know, because that to me is the game. Exactly. Yeah, and 100% agree with you, Jason. I think that alone is so much more about the psychological journey than it is about the survival adventure. Not that it isn't absolutely intense, physically, really grueling, particularly the frozen season was far more challenging than I was prepared

Starting point is 01:06:25 for. But I absolutely think that the mental game is what takes the majority of the people out, whether it be their choice not to stay or whether it be them getting freaked out to the point where they're not firing on all cylinders and they're making bad decisions that lead to accidents that take them out, or they don't want to be there, and somehow that leads to them doing something that accidentally takes them out, right? So, your degree of being able to control your mental and your attitude is absolutely huge. And I think that really came through on season 6 six where I was straight up starving, really

Starting point is 01:07:05 starving the whole time. You've lost one third of your body weight in that time alone. One third, that is. And I'm only five four. So I lost 50 pounds and I mean, it was really scary. Look at myself in the mirror afterwards. Yeah. That is like one of the, one of the hardest things to watch people.

Starting point is 01:07:27 Because we're talking about a show in which people are, you know, I've talked about it on this show quite a bit, but you know, you are out there alone for months at a time. And I would say like the central struggle is, seems to be from a viewer's point of view, is getting enough food, specifically, getting enough food to sustain yourself, doing the amount of work physically that is necessary to keep yourself afloat. But I mean, doesn't your hunger affect your mental capabilities, too? Like, even the most solid mental foundation you have,

Starting point is 01:08:04 you are there for 10 weeks with only handfuls of cranberries. You had 10 rabbits and 10 squirrels over 10 weeks. Like, I would imagine that that is just, I mean, the hunger or just even the lack of food is playing with your mind too, just huge by nature. Yeah. It completely takes over your brain in ways that you had no idea how to anticipate ahead

Starting point is 01:08:27 of time. And I talk about this in my book, The Different Hunters, and there's the deep visceral hunger, but then the psychological sub-hunger, the one that runs your thoughts where you cannot stop thinking about crembroulet or fomdou or whatever it happens to be, that is much more frustrating. For me, that was much harder than the physical hunger because I felt strong. I actually felt great right up until the very end where I really started to be aware that my body was tanking. I felt better than I have for most of my life. And that's a thing that people do fasting

Starting point is 01:08:59 for healing or ketogenic diets for healing. So it's so much more about the mental. And I found something happened that was really interesting and illustrative of this in about the five week mark. I got given a weight warning. I was told that I was losing too much weight. And while I wasn't at the danger point yet, I was getting close. And that really messed with me mentally. And I was just going about my day thinking, I'm starving, I'm starving, I'm failing, I'm failing out here. And I felt weak. And I was really struggling. And then I just had this epiphany where it was like, hey, you know what? It's up to me how I consider this. They told me I'm at the danger line.

Starting point is 01:09:40 But I feel great. So I'm going to trust people who are looking at statistics, or am I gonna trust myself and my own body? And hey, don't people fast for health reasons? Oh, I'm not starving, I'm doing a cleanse. A really deep cleanse, but I'm doing a cranberry cleanse. There you go. And from that moment, when I brought myself around mentally, I brought myself around physically. I felt stronger.

Starting point is 01:10:03 My knees were no longer wobbling. I was, I was good again, and it was just the mental switch. Yeah, and that is like watching the show, you really are, and you know, I'm certain a part of this is editing for the sake of stories and all that, and a compelling narrative for everybody. But you really are, I mean,

Starting point is 01:10:21 they're using only the tape that you all are, just so people know in case people don't watch the show. Alone is a show wherein you guys are out there surviving truly alone. There isn't a camera crew with you. You are your own camera crew. You are providing the, all the material, all the footage. You're providing it yourself. You're having to shoot it all, frame it all, do all the footage, you're providing it yourself, you're having to shoot it all, frame it all,

Starting point is 01:10:45 do all the camera work. And on top of that, is it a weekly health check-in? So it is only once a week or so, is it? No, it's not, they don't do them at all at first. They don't start doing the first medical checks until you've been out there where the starvation actually could be getting to be physically dangerous. And that's usually around the three-week mark. And then they determine how often they check in on you based on how you're doing when

Starting point is 01:11:11 they see you. So on season six, for example, I got my first weight warning on day 40. So just over half of my time out there. And from that point, they considered that I was, you know, I was doing a little bit dicey, and so they did medical checks more often, and then towards the end, when they were frankly really quite concerned about me, they increased the frequency. On the frozen season, I was doing great from the beginning. I didn't ever get a weight warning, and I only had two medical checks in the entire course

Starting point is 01:11:43 of those 50 days because they knew I wasn't in danger. But what was interesting is watching you on frozen, like you were in six, you were so strong, coming in so strong. Frozen seemed to rock everybody straight out of the gig. Oh my gosh. You know, like that was so hard. And I think all of us went in feeling really confident because most of the folks there

Starting point is 01:12:05 had been out almost 50 days, if not 50 days, and Callie and I had been out way longer than 50 days. So we're like, really, further south than we were in the Arctic and a shorter time limit. We got this and everyone just got their butts kicked. And I think it was really shocking for them. And frankly, really shocking for the producers. Oh, I bet. I bet because that season is, it's kind of like an all-star season

Starting point is 01:12:31 or something like that. Everybody in the season of Frozen has been in one of the previous alone seasons and has been almost everybody did incredibly well in their previous seasons. And so to watch everybody who you've seen just excel just be so foundationally challenged was absolutely incredible. And I love and as you say, it really revealed the mental game a lot more because people were dropping like flies in the first week and no one starts to death within a week.

Starting point is 01:13:04 You know, that means it really is just you want and it's so interesting you watch people start to build a narrative for themselves that allows them eventually to tap out. It they start to talk or they start to think a way that starts to feel like they are coming up with a final argument for themselves to give themselves, frankly, permission to leave. And it's so interesting when you then watch someone start that dialogue with themselves and then interrupt it. You have it at one point in frozen, where your shelter is leaking. What do you, didn't you, you bear, you

Starting point is 01:13:45 pepper sprayed your own sleeping bag. Was that right? I did. Yeah. The head of my sleeping, like the inside, the hood of my sleeping bag, which was nestled inside the hood of my parka, which was nestled inside the hood of my rain jacket. So basically everything that I needed most to keep myself warm, saturated with pepper spray, the evening of day six.

Starting point is 01:14:05 And the afternoon, the dusk of day six was my lowest point. And I was really struggling. And what you don't see on the show is the fact that at that point, I'd been hypothermic for about three days straight because my rain gear was not tough enough to stand up to crawling through thick scratchy brush. So I made a choice that, hey, it's not as cold now as it's going to be later. And I'm gonna need this rain gear more later than I do now.

Starting point is 01:14:33 So I let myself get soaking wet while I was building my shelter. I think it was a good choice, but it was a choice that made that first week really hard. So I'd been hypothermic for three days. And then the only thing I could eat was muscles, which I was having to to pry off of the rocks and then I had very few trees in my area. So a lot of what I was building with was rock. So I was hauling these huge heavy rocks up and down cliffs and at the end of day four or so I was having such intense tendonitis that I could barely

Starting point is 01:14:59 use my hands. So hypothermic unable to use my hands and then I also had this crazy wound happen on my toe, which I learned what it actually was later. It's basically like a cold sore on the nail bed of my toe. So it was shooting nerve pain. So I was limping. I didn't have full use of my hands and I'd been hypothermic for three days solid. And that's the only time on the alone show that you ever see me talking about how hard it is and crying about solid. And that's the only time on the alone show that you ever see me talking about how hard it is and crying about it. And that night is when I sprayed all of my most important gear with pepper spray. And then I woke up the next morning and I said, you know what? That didn't take me out. So I have freaking got this. Like that. It's hard

Starting point is 01:15:41 to imagine having been worse than that. It's incredible. I'm golden. It's incredible because any single one of those things, the equivalent has happened multiple times to other contestants and they have been knocked out completely. For you to have all of those things happen concurrently is and not only persist, but come back and win is incredible. You know? This is what I wanna talk about too.

Starting point is 01:16:08 And you mentioned this when I watched you do your lecture, we are getting a very small sampling of what you did and what you do out there. It's through somebody else's eyes. You tape it, but they edit it. And you don't know what they're gonna edit, and you've shot so much, and you're out there, it's through somebody else's eyes. You, you tape it, but they edit it. And you don't know what they're gonna edit, and you've shot so much, and you're out there for, you know, especially in the season six,

Starting point is 01:16:31 like 73 days, you know, and when do you start to see what your narrative is according to a loan versus what your narrative is, and what was different about? Cause I know you talked about this in the book, like what you did, they didn't show and vice versa. Yeah, you know, it's interesting because my experiences were so different the first time versus the second time. And a lot of it was based around that.

Starting point is 01:16:54 Because the first time I just poured my heart into filming everything as exquisitely as I could, I shifted my routines in ones that weren't as good for survival so that I could get better footage like always butchering my animals during the day instead of at night by my fire which was harder on me because it meant wasting daylight hours to do something I didn't need daylight hours for. Also, I could get really good footage and then when I watched the season I was so upset because none of the things that I cared about, none of the story

Starting point is 01:17:25 that I carefully crafted because I wanted to show the depth of it and show who I was, came across on television. So I went into the second time really jaded thinking, pff, why bother? Because they're not going to tell the story that's most important to me. And then they totally did. And they didn't have as much footage to do it with because I was less motivated the second time. I still did my damnedest to give them all the footage, but the weather was so harsh and

Starting point is 01:17:51 labrador that I could barely set up the big camera because the wind knocked the tripod over right away. My cameras were constantly breaking, even the ones that didn't break were fogging up so I could barely get footage. So I felt they did way, way better by me the second time and they had to work hard to do it because they were working with a lot less. Out of curiosity, that's a little bit of a shift for you

Starting point is 01:18:15 in how you approach the filming, your own filming of it. But I'm curious also, how did you change your approach to the game itself? Frozen is different than a normal season of alone in that, alone in a normal season is open-ended. It is a last-person remaining wins the season. Frozen was 50 days in incredibly difficult situation, right? So it is a finite, you know you have an end day.

Starting point is 01:18:48 Did that really, and I know, sorry, we're asking a lot of very specific alone questions, but like, I love that you really, really understood the challenge and you get to ask really good questions. You're asking much better questions than the average interviewer, I'm loving it. That's right. Each average interviewer, like I am curious what purposefully did you change about how you did this? Yeah, the second time was hugely different. It was very much

Starting point is 01:19:17 informed by what worked and what didn't work my first season. One of the biggest things right off the top was I did shift my gear items specifically to bring two items that not having were incredible handicaps the first time around. One was snare wire, so they don't tell you on season six that I was doing all of that trapping without snare wire. Everybody else who snares on a loan, they have wire that is self-supporting and makes it all possible. I had the fishing line and my own hair. So I had to devise a way to trap using really limited and totally inefficient resources. And that meant that I had to have a power mechanism to bring the rabbits up and off their

Starting point is 01:19:59 feet every snare I set. So every snare that I set on season took, took me an hour and the average snare takes three minutes. So it was a huge handicap. So what I did for the second season was relied on knitting an enormous sweater and pulling it apart. So I had cordage from the yarn that the sweater is made out of, which I didn't have to take parachute cord, which I could take snare wire. So huge advantage. So for people, yeah, for people listening, you are, you are, everybody, every contestant

Starting point is 01:20:32 is given a matching set of items, and then you get to choose 10 items of your own that you would like to bring. And so in those 10, am I, is that correct? Like so. We're given a list. And we're choosing our own items that fit the qualifications of that list. So everybody had slightly different snare wire, but it all had to be 20 gauge snare wire. For example, right. So, but, so you watch people, one of the ways that people strategize is, you know, sometimes somebody's like, I'm not gonna bring a fire starter because I'm confident in my ability to start a fire

Starting point is 01:21:09 using just materials I find there. So that frees up a slot that I can bring something else. And then you watch that person really struggle with starting a fire and maintaining a fire. And so there are you, everybody's choice of gear kind of informs the strategy of play. So having snare wire is huge, you know. It's huge. I could have stayed out, I think, easily another month on season six had I had

Starting point is 01:21:37 snare wire. It made a tremendous difference. That said, I was in a fairly barren location. So I would have decimated the rabbit population because I was on a little peninsula, not on the mainland where the whole world is constantly supplying you with more game. I only had the game that was on this little peninsula. That said, having to do it all by hand was a huge, huge handicap without sufficient materials. I do wanna talk about just the way that you approach

Starting point is 01:22:04 the game in addition to respecting the land as well, because you said you didn't want to decimate the rabbit population. This is something that you were concerned about. You weren't here just to win. You also wanted to be respectful of this area that you are in. And even with your book, you are donating a portion of the sales to the native people whose homeland, this whole thing took place.

Starting point is 01:22:30 And so I feel like that is something that at least seems to me a little bit different than the way maybe other people approach it. And also some of the things that you wanted to get on camera that didn't often get on camera. Exactly, true. Yeah, and so you asked earlier how the narrative was different on camera that didn't often get on camera. Exactly. True. Yeah. And so you asked earlier how the narrative was different on alone season six versus

Starting point is 01:22:49 frozen. And part of it was it didn't show my philosophy and my approach nearly as much on season six. And the second time it really did. And that is a huge part of me and part of what sets me apart from a lot of other people in the field of survival. And ironically, I have never referred to myself as a survivalist. That's a term that I take issue with, frankly. I feel like it's a very fear-based approach.

Starting point is 01:23:13 And I've never been into this stuff for survival. I've been into it because I feel like it's a beautiful, more connected, more natural way for a human to live. And feeling like you have to wrestle the wilderness into submission is a very western and masculine approach and it's the polar opposite of what I believe and what I want to represent. So to my mind, going into a wild place from a place of respect and curiosity and asking and appreciating and just giving back in whatever ways I can was really important to me.

Starting point is 01:23:49 And I want to talk to you about this because this blew me away, and you talk about it in your book, but the recovery process, because you are out there. And it took you, your first season, it took you two years to get back to normal. And there's a great section of the book about when you first kind of get home, you know, going into a pharmacy and kind of being over, it almost felt like I was reading a section about like PTSD, like you, the colors and the sounds and the lights. And it's like, you, you're being pulled from one extreme to the next to the world that we all live in. And then also on top of all this, I imagine you have all this opportunity to eat, but you can't even really eat either.

Starting point is 01:24:31 Right. You go from not having enough food and thinking about nothing but food to be enserrounded by opulence and people who are eating full meals, you know, three plus times a day, and you can't have any of it. Oh, that was so much harder than starving in the wilderness, so much harder. But yeah, it was so fascinating. All of the physiology of going from pure starvation. And on frozen, I was eating really well.

Starting point is 01:25:00 So honestly, when I entered the refeeding program, my portions were cut back from what I had been eating on my own in the world. They were different. I wasn't getting enough calories. I wasn't getting enough fat, and I was getting zero carbohydrates. But in terms of volume, I was eating more out there. Granted, I'm pretty sure I wasn't digesting the seaweed. It came out looking just like it went in. But it was, it was filling out my system, right? My digestion was constantly moving on me. So it was very different recovering from frozen than it had been on season six, where I was really straight up starving most of the time on season six.

Starting point is 01:25:37 And my whole digestive system was shut down and shrunken and really took a while to come back online. There has been some seasons where starvation is the main. was shut down and shrunken and really took a while to come back online. There has been some seasons where starvation is the main antagonist, if you will. You know, like the up until season six, every single season was won by the person who is carrying the most weight on their way in. Up in so seasons one through five were straight up starvation contest. Season six is the first time anyone got big game. And then seasons six, seven, and eight,

Starting point is 01:26:06 the winners were all the person who got big game. But honestly, they were all starving too. Particularly Clay who got Clay on season eight, he got a deer, but one lean deer is not enough food for a man his size and weight in those circumstances. And even a moose and a muskots. And those guys came out a lot skinnier than they went in as well. So I think it's actually interesting because I offer consulting services

Starting point is 01:26:32 for authors and TV shows and movies because any book you ever read that has people in the wild starving. I look at it and I say, oh my god. So inaccurate, right? It's so much harder to make your way in the world and provide all of your own calories than the average person can wrap their brain around. And alone is an extreme example because a lot of people have more survival items. They have a warm shelter or they have bedding or they have more adequate gear in other

Starting point is 01:27:03 ways, since the food is the only issue, but on alone, it's all of it. I will say too that if you want to, the general, you not just you, Jason, but if you want to learn some of these skills, uh, buckskinrevolution.com, that's your website. You have, you, you teach classes, you go out into a wild, you do a different, uh, different series, you know, whether it's like an Earth skills weekend or survival, intensive, you know, plants intensive, Buckeye gathering, like, there's a lot of different stuff there too. So you can, and I know that you talked about like,

Starting point is 01:27:36 you will also work with people who are going to be on the show, on the loan, right? Like, like, to get them prepared and teach them. But like that to me, like you really, this is a part of your lifestyle. This is not, you know, you weren't in this to become a television star or a winner. I was so shocked to end up being a television star. You have no idea. You're gonna be on a CBS sitcom this year, right?

Starting point is 01:28:02 I did actually just do a promo shoot for Leatherman where there was like a hair and makeup person. I'm like, oh wow. I mean, I've been on TV, but I've never done anything like this, like having my hair touched up in the powder, so I wouldn't shine all these. It was quite a trip. So I was like, okay, this is a good like dip in my toe in it for when I do some some morning shows as part of the book promo. But yeah, so part of my idea, like part of what drives me isn't showing the world what I can do. It's letting people see themselves through me and recognize that we all have the capacity to do the kinds of things that I did on alone. It's just most people don't practice that. And so what I want to do with my work is

Starting point is 01:28:45 Make everybody feel super capable inspire people but then give them a place to go with that inspiration So that they learn the basic skills and ways to adjust their attitudes Frankly a lot of it as we've said is the mental game and so I offer How do you how do you work on your mental game? How do you feel more connected to the world around you? So you feel more whole and capable every day of your life, not just if you happen to be dropped into the wilderness to survive.

Starting point is 01:29:14 I love this. The book is written. I think it feels like we're alongside you as you talk about this journey. This is a book that primarily focuses on season six of alone. And this is, it's just, you, I think when you read it, you feel like you're, you feel like you're there. You also have a YouTube channel as well that I've, that I've watched quite a

Starting point is 01:29:39 bit of where you will go through the, the subsequent seasons of alone. I feel like you've done commentaries on the episodes from seasons, at least seven and eight that I saw, I think, as well. You know, I've actually only done seasons six, nine, and frozen. Oh, is that it? Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. So then it was that that I watched. Sorry. No, I feel like that's really interesting as well to watch you, you know, to watch you talk about

Starting point is 01:30:06 seasons and the show that you're not on, you know what I mean? And to watch, to hear you talk about it is really interesting and to have your opinion on it. And then obviously to hear you talk about your own experiences is incredible. But also to hear you talk about the episodes that are coming out as they're going, I will always watch your kind of reaction episodes because I want that insight. You have like true incredible insight into this process and what it is and what the people are dealing with. And that's really interesting. Thank you. Yeah. I agree. I think that a lot of people comment on alone, why didn't they do this? Why shouldn't have done that?

Starting point is 01:30:51 And I say things like they probably did, but they weren't successful. So it didn't make the cut. Or that's a choice that I would really question. Or all of the things that you don't know when you've watched the show, but you don't actually know the reality of being out there, that's what I'm trying to give. And same, same with the book and why I wrote it in first-person present tense to bring

Starting point is 01:31:13 people along. The whole idea is to share the experience as deeply as possible so that people understand the depth of it, not just the few little things that they're seen on television because there's really no way to get across some of the deeper journey of truly reaching the edge of your physical capacity, looking death in the face. That is a completely transcendent experience that there's no way it's going to come across by watching a 40-minute episode split by commercials from your couch with a bowl of popcorn on your lap, right?

Starting point is 01:31:49 Yeah, and trying to figure out, and everybody, I know, at least for me, at home, I'm like, well, I would have done this and I would have done that and blah, blah, blah, blah, and in reality, I mean, if I tried to do any of this, I could last maybe three days, tops, I mean, if I tried to do any of this, I could, I, you know, I could last maybe three days. It tops, you know. Oh, you could do more than three days, Jason.

Starting point is 01:32:11 I'd give you at least a week, men of love. I'll take it. I'll take it. Well, Jason, Jason probably is more prepared than most because you are, you get, you get, you've not been out there, but you've seen, you're in it. You are in it.

Starting point is 01:32:25 It is embarrassing how much stuff like this I watch has convinced me that I could do stuff. I could, in my mind, in my mind, I could build a shelter. I could, yeah, I've, I'm like, oh, I could absolutely catch and skin and, and, and dress a rabbit or something like that. And it but let me be clear. Absolutely no way I could in practicality do it. You we should go out to the woods together sometime. That's it.

Starting point is 01:32:55 It's it's we'll do celebrity alone. It's it's it's they drop it's you and me are a team and they can pair up with somebody else and that'll be what it is. I'm actually talking to some people. I'm not going to lie to you. This could be a possibility. I'm here.

Starting point is 01:33:10 I've thought about this a lot and I am 100%. You want Chasas on your team. He's going to be a good ally. I'm so excited that we had you here. June 13th is when the book comes out. It's called Never Alone, a solo Arctic survival journey. Thank you so much for being here. This has been absolutely amazing. You are the best. And I'm so glad that we got to do this. Oh, you guys have great sessions. This was awesome. Oh, I'm so glad. Is there anything that we didn't ask that

Starting point is 01:33:39 you would like us? Is there anything right that you didn't get a chance to get out there or anything that you'd like us to make sure to plug or anything like that? Yeah, I just really encourage folks if they are interested in learning more about what I do and dipping their toes in themselves, whether you live in a skyscraper in New York City or deep in the woods in your own bunker in Montana, there are skills that will help you live a wilder, more abundant, more fulfilling life, and my passion in the world is helping you find that. Wow.

Starting point is 01:34:10 Incredible. I love it. This is so great. Thank you so much. This was really just fantastic. Thank you so much. Yeah. My pleasure.

Starting point is 01:34:18 Yeah. Thank you guys. Okay. We did it. Boom. That was the interview. Pretty good, right? I really enjoyed that. Listening to the whole thing again, as I just did. If you are interested in Wony's book,

Starting point is 01:34:30 never alone a solo Arctic survival journey, it is out now, right? Is it out now? Is this episode coming out after June 13th? No, I don't know. I don't know. The following week. Keep this in.

Starting point is 01:34:42 Okay, so it's not out now. I lied. It comes out June 13th. You can pre-order it now at BuckskinRevolution.com and follow her on Instagram and YouTube at Buckskin Revolution. Now that we're done talking about FastX, although let's be honest, will we ever be done talking about FastX? Never. Of course not. Never. Never. We're going to be talking about it forever. But what we are going to talk about right now is next week's movie. So next week we are going to talk about the 1994 Melanie Griffith ed Harris movie milk money. We've

Starting point is 01:35:14 already recorded this episode. We did it a lot ago a couple of weeks ago. I had never heard of this movie milk money. Had you guys had anyone seen this movie prior to the show? Never heard of. Um, wild, absolutely wild stuff in this movie. I cannot recommend it enough. And to connect to this week's Matt and I, Monday, Casey Wilson came and joined us for our discussion of milk money, uh, who appeared on the drop dead Fred episode that I just mentioned is about to come out again. So, uh, it's a Casey Wilson week. Check it out. It was a, it was a blast, uh, when we did it at Largo, it is a, again. So it's a Casey Wilson week. Check it out.

Starting point is 01:35:45 It was a blast when we did it at Largo. It is a blast. I'm assuming it's gonna be a blast to listen to. So check it out and we will be back here again a week later to hear all your thoughts and your nonsense. Talk to Gus. Here's a short breakdown of the plot. Do I really have to give a breakdown

Starting point is 01:36:02 of the plot of milk money? All right, here we go. Get ready. Someone else wrote this, but I'm gonna read it. Three 12 year old boys. Breakdown of the plot? Do I really have to give a breakdown of the plot of milk money? All right, here we go. Get ready. Someone else wrote this, but I'm gonna read it. Three 12 year old boys, get ready everybody. Three 12 year old boys travel into the city in hopes of paying a woman $100 to see her naked.

Starting point is 01:36:18 Guys, that's the, that's the, that is the inciting incident of the movie. Ah, there, the boys meet a sex worker named V, played by Melanie Griffith, who returns with them to the suburbs to live with one of the boys and his awkward single father. Okay, that is kind of what happens in the movie, but that barely scratches the surface

Starting point is 01:36:40 of what is straight bananas about this movie. This movie's got a little bit of Jonathan Demi's something wild. It's a little bit of Martin Scorsese's After Hours. There's a real, there's a lot of nuts stuff in here. I really enjoyed it. I had a great time doing the episode, so check it out. Rotten Tomatoes apparently gives it a 12%

Starting point is 01:37:01 on their tomato meter, but I don't even need to give them. And we don't need to rely on rotten tomatoes. One of the reviews though from the Austin Chronicle says, quote, sour is not the word for it. The milk obtained from this money is positively rancid. Okay. Wow. Marjory Baumgarten from the Austin Chronicle absolutely savage the movie milk money. Oh, and while we're here, Tech Q14 if you don't mind is the milk money trailer.

Starting point is 01:37:33 Paramount Pictures presents Van Boop, it's a girl. Unexpected. What do you say? Spectrum. Unconventional. She's funny, she watches cartoons and she likes likes ice cream, and she likes you, dad. Uninhibited feelings.

Starting point is 01:37:47 Why do I have to take off my pants? Because men are better listeners when they're not wearing pants. Okay. In a story about unconditional love. Yeah. Melanie Griffith. Ed Harris. Milk money.

Starting point is 01:38:00 And rated PG-13. Okay, wow, that was crazy. You can stream milk money for free on hoopla. Oh boy. Is that really one or did we make that up? Is that a fake one? It's a free streaming service offered by many public libraries. Oh nice. Oh, I thought that was kind of canopy and hoopla. Oh, I didn't know there was a second one. Okay, great. Oh, awesome. So you can watch it for free on hoopla, which is a free streaming service offered by many public libraries, which was the next line you just told me.

Starting point is 01:38:26 I could have kept reading and found out that for myself. Or you can rent it on Apple TV, Prime Video, YouTube, Google Play, et cetera. It's out there. Okay, so we're almost at the end of this episode. But before we go, check out this bonus scene from our FastX show where we discuss the scene where Brelarsin meets Vin in the Italian bar.

Starting point is 01:38:44 Ooh, this is a good one. Take a listen. But she goes to that club and I guess like one of the brief requisites to hang on that Italian club is you got like beat the shit out of everybody. Which you know Vin Diesel did not do because he's never had a fight in his life. But I guess he had no casualties.

Starting point is 01:38:59 So they respected for that. Not what I like ascribe to an Italian club. Yeah. And it's like, you know Italians. It's like maybe like, here we are. Here we are. I'm pretty girl comes into an Italian bar. They're not trying to kick her ass.

Starting point is 01:39:14 She's being treated very nicely. Trust me. Also, the guy, she's like, I'm looking for someone. She puts money on the bar. She starts fighting everybody. And then the bartender hands her a shotgun. Yeah. And it's like, what's what happened? I'm on your side. He's like,

Starting point is 01:39:28 that's the right answer. Naples thought the bar. What is it? I'm like, I'm straight up missing something here. Like that. Well, the other thing I didn't get is Scott Eastwood, AKA little nobody, was the same role as like, they both are people who work for the agency who help them. Well, also fought their dad, their dad is current Russell both work. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no Okay, so that's it for the show. I am going to shout out a few things that I want people to watch or check out and I also have a request.

Starting point is 01:40:10 I've spoken on this podcast a bunch of times about my love for the British TV series on peacock called We Are Lady Parts. The writer director of that show has a new movie out, Neeta Banzur is her name, and the movie is called Polite Society. Here we are talking about FastX and, you know, Paul and I spend so much time talking about Marvel and DC and Star Wars and all these mega Titanic IP things. Where we live in a world in of gigantic IP based movies.

Starting point is 01:40:46 So I want to spend a brief moment highlighting a smaller movie that needs attention that I just thought was absolutely dynamite. I don't want to give too much away, but if you liked we are lady parts, you'll love polite society. It's about two two sisters, one of whom wants to be an artist, one of whom wants to be a stunt woman in the disapproving, their family's disapproving and what's going on in their lives. And it's just a very funny, very sweet, very heartfelt, incredibly wonderful movie that deserves everybody's attention. I know I shouted out, Ryan, a few weeks ago.

Starting point is 01:41:21 This is another small British come in this case, a coming of age, not a romcom, a coming of age story that I think is absolutely fantastic that everybody should check out. It's called Polite Society. Please rent it. I think it's rentable. Give them your money, support them. These are the movies that need our support.

Starting point is 01:41:41 We don't need to be putting billions of dollars into the pockets of gigantic tech companies. Let's support smaller filmmakers. Come on, polite society. Let's do it. Go. Also primo on free V. Shouts to Jason Concepcion, who's a writer on this show. I think this show is hilarious and another sweet coming of age story. It's on free V. It's fantastic. You're going to have to watch ads, but it's a terrific show. The whole season's up now, and it's dynamite. Primo, watch it. Now, I have a request.

Starting point is 01:42:12 I also just watched the Karen Dalton documentary. I think it's called In My Own Time. Incredible documentary about the folk musician Karen Dalton that I absolutely loved. There is a documentary about another singer, songwriter that I love, Judy Sill. And I can't find this documentary anywhere. So can somebody figure out how and where I can watch

Starting point is 01:42:35 the movie that's about, the documentary that's about Judy Sill? Okay, that's it. I'm putting it out there. I feel like one of you nerds is gonna be like, oh, here it's here, it lives on this thing. Maybe it's on hoopla, I don't know, but I want to watch that movie and I couldn't find it anywhere. So that's my whole deal. But watch Plight Society, check out Primo. That's the stuff. Okay, that's it for the show. Rate and review. I know it's

Starting point is 01:42:58 crazy. Everybody says it, but it helps. So just do it. Just don't be assholes about it. Just rate and review. And if you listen on Apple Podcast, make sure you are following us. Visit us on social media at HDTGM. Okay. If you want to listen to how did this get made without commercials, our entire archive is up at Stitcher Premium. For a free one month trial, use the word bonkers. Okay. Use the word bonkers and you're going to get a month and you can have access to everything. Big thanks to our producers, Scott Sani, Molly Reynolds, Avril Halley, who helps us pick out our movies, incredible work as always, our engineer, Alex Gonzalez,

Starting point is 01:43:37 Alex coming in in a clutch, clutch helping me with all my tech problems, our publisher, July Diaz, Jess Cisneros, who makes our amazing social media videos. And I think that's it. Thank you guys for helping me through this event of an episode of this.

Starting point is 01:43:55 I mean, the logo show. This is how long they are as well. Yeah, I feel like I need a cigarette. That was long. This was long. This was too long long in fact. But I'm committed to cutting nothing out of it. So hopefully you've just gonna air unfiltered and raw.

Starting point is 01:44:12 As in, yeah, that's how we do it, we do it raw. Okay, everybody, we'll see you next week for milk money. Eat shit. That is a sweet, we're gonna be in love. We're love. Eat shit!

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