How Did This Get Made? - Last Looks: Hangman

Episode Date: August 18, 2023

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Turn on the radio, pull out yourself a crocheted pocket dog, and ask yourself even if they solve the riddle, what did have stopped the killings in the movie Hangman, answers, and questions, and debate about all this and more. On today's How Did This Get Made? Last Looks. Hit the theme! This is my third time in this game It's a double show This one is different than the one

I've got your ugly last time This is your last time For the next time Don't you see a dream as long as she's born In the fabric with all the fuss Hello all you fuck on leg on sounding police detectives I'm your eviction man Paul Sheehrd. Welcome to How Did This Get Made? Life looks! Where you the listener get to voice your issues on Hangman and Jason and I recap the amazing How Did This Get Made Ease Coast Tour that we just came back from. We'll tell you our favorite moments that you may not know because a lot of them happened

behind the scenes. And as always I will reveal next week's movie, but first things first, a big shout out to homin' him for that theme song, we love these songs. And if you have a last look song, send it to us at howtodiscatmadeatearwolf.com, keep them short, 15 to 20 seconds is best. Now, let's get into it.

Last week, we talked at length about Hangman, a movie that Discord user, quantum vault, and Suns thinks should have had the tagline, I'd like to buy a bow. I mean, were they disemboweled? I don't know. Anyway, I like it. It was good. Or were you saying that the movie's a turd?

I can't quite figure it out. But either way, I like the bow. Anyway, we had questions about Hangman, and we might have even missed a few things. So here's your chance to set us straight. Fact check us if you will. It is now time for corrections and omissions. Corrections and emissions. There's no need for permission. You got it a little wrong so we wrote down this song.

Thank you Andrew Winston for that theme song. Let's go to the discord. Joe Tangello, oh, I haven't seen Joe in a while, so weird that this film is based around the game hangman, but they don't use the rules of hangman in the plot. The main objective in the game of hangman is to solve the puzzle before the person dies. There should have been someone that the killer was threatening to kill unless the detectives could solve the puzzle. That's a brilliant idea, Joe. I know it was discussed that they put no effort into trying to solve the puzzle, but it made no difference if they solved it because it wouldn't have given them any solid clues of who the killer was. And on the topic of Hangman

Game Rules, another discord user, D.T. Chimes, and to say, if you really wanted to play by Hangman Rules, wouldn't Pacino have to guess a letter and if he was wrong, someone gets killed with that letter on their body? I mean, it seems like the movie is playing Hangman by Scrabble Rules. Wow. You guys broke open a plot that we already knew was broken and made it way smarter in the way it was broken than our just frustration that it weren't even trying to solve it.

I love this. G.T. 75 writes Al Pacino, surmises that the killer is killing every night to celebrate the 20th anniversary of his father's death. How could he land on that conclusion if they knew that the first killing took place a year or more earlier? Was the killer originally planning on celebrating the 19th anniversary? Oh my god! Yes! This movie is stupid. Dr. Gutswrights during the autopsy of the first victim, Carl Urban says that our

parents filed a missing persons report. However, we later learned that she was murdered in her bedroom. This would mean that either the killer abducted her long enough for her to be considered missing, only then to bring her back to her own house to killer or the victim's parents never even bothered going to her house to look for her before following the report. Wow. This movie. You have done it. You have broken my brain now.

So many questions. No good answers. Let's go to the phones. Aaron from Seattle. What do you got? It all this is Aaron in Seattle. And I think I have a correction, but this movie, hangman, was so confusing that I'm not sure.

But timeline-wise, as the cold opened, what I think happened was the Skull Band Driver had just left killing Al Pacino's partner's life. And he got interrupted, so he was in a big hurry, and he hurried away. And he sidetracked Alpichino's car on accident, but that's when he got arrested, which is why no more murders happened. Theoretically, he would have just continued the murders right then. Or he could have said so I felt that you know on purpose but I think that was the night the wife was killed.

I could be wrong and probably wrong but it doesn't make sense otherwise. So thanks for everything you guys do. Say hi to Jason and June. Okay. I'm going to believe you. Makes sense. I mean, okay. So yes, that would be from a year earlier. So is that why they're connected? And why didn't they ever bring that up? But they did arrest him after that. Huh. There is something wrong there. There is something wrong there. But I don't think there's a valid enough answer because urbana came home at night and he just had left so i think you are wrong but i also don't know what is right uh... markis in baltimore what do you got

i've got a theory on hangman i'm wonder i noticed that the production company or a studio was called Patriot Productions. When we look at this story, as it was probably written on the page, I think we get a story of cops who are in over their head with a serial killer, and a reporter who helps them solve that case, and part of that case hid you on the the fact that albuccino when he was a cop he was callous versus caring towards this kid he maybe didn't do the things he was supposed to be doing and I'm wondering if that's the story as it was written but Patriot production studio whatever got a hold of this and decided that they did want to make maybe Copaganda is too strong of a word,

but something along those lines and that's why we have this terrible dissonance and confusion about the beginning of the movie. Al Pacino is waiting outside of that donut shop. I think he's just waiting for it to open to get donuts, but the movie totally gives us the vibe that he's still doing police work. The reporter tells us kind of clunkily that she's doing a story, not a profile on that specific officer, but she in our current cultural climate or something along those lines wants to give the cops side of the story. And then in the third act, just like equally as clunky, someone says something about how we really don't understand the things that cops have to go through. So I'm wondering if this was one story written that the good people at Patriots, whatever,

then decided to cram into something different which gave that dizzying and kind of tonally dissonant movie that we ended up watching. Love the show. Okay, we have to see you in Philly. Okay, well Marcus, we saw you in Philly and thank you for this astute reading of the film. You know, a lot of people actually have wrote in about this Copaganda theme and I think that you handled it well. I don't think it's like Copaganda, but I would say that it definitely has that angle to it or that POV, but it's funny because in doing that, they also are showing how incompetent

the police are throughout the entire film. It's like, no, cops, you know, they put their life on the line, they're out there, they're working their ass off to save you, but these cops are dumb as nails. So I think you're right with your original idea. And I also think it just felt like noting or something had diluted well I mean really every part of this movie honestly. Ah, it's a bummer. So close, could be so good.

I want to see this movie that everyone else is talking about. Alright, our final call is from Pat from Delco, what do we got? I'm halfway through listening to the Hangman episode and it dawned on me that the plot of this movie is essentially the same plot of star trick to the wrath of con because in that movie

con is pissed off and goes on a huge killing spray because perk exiled him and all these people to fettie out for five and says right in the movie he never came back to check on our progress which is the same thing as this movie because the killer in this movie is pissed off at the chino because he evicted him out of his home which is essentially the same thing as the exiled. So it's a complete rip-up. This movie is essentially Star Trek 2 except Pacino is Kirk. Anyway, we're going to go see you guys tomorrow at the Miller Theater of Philly. We're really excited. Can't wait. Thanks, Paul. Bye-bye.

Pat, another Philly fan. Oh my gosh, Philly was a great night. How dare you? How dare you compare this to Star Trek to the rap the con. Here's where I think you're right. Yes, there are similarities, but here's where you're wrong. You know all this stuff before, which makes the movie way more interesting. You know that con was left there by Kirk. You know that his son is there. You know all these things.

This movie just drops it on you in the last five minutes. So yes, you're right, but you're also wrong. You can't, I mean, thematically, yes, it's just, well, I guess, maybe how you tell a story. All right, back to the Discord, echo Charlie writes, this movie is about people being hanged, but at no point does anyone think, hey, maybe one of us should have a knife

in order to cut a rope. Several times, I just have to pull out a have a knife in order to cut a rope. Several times, if you said to pull out a gun and shoot the victim free from the rope, when having a pocket knife would have been so much easier. Brittany Snow is going to also have terrible tonight's for the rest of her life. Well, I mean, yes, that train was very loud. Yeah, shooting a rope was one of the stupidest things I've ever seen as well. Getting a bullet right through that.

I mean, was it a rope, was it steel? I think it might have been steel. I mean, that's a lot of weight. Catfish rights, my biggest question is about the final confrontation with the killer in the mausoleum, when the cops split up to surround him. Pacino walks about 20 feet and starts talking to the killer, but his partner disappears for like eight minutes. Where'd he go?

Did he need to go grab a drink to steal his nerves? I mean, I thought, okay, well, we'll find out that Carl Urban is definitely in on it. Nope. Just turned out, he turned right instead of left or something. The killer was just strutting all over the place. It would have been so easy to take him out, but no Carl Urban. Catfish again. This movie, the more we poke holes at it or just look at it and ask any sort of question,

it falls apart and it says why was Pacino allowed on the case even though he's retired. I mean, I'm not going to poke a hole in that. Yes, I agree that it makes no sense, but I also feel like that's a conceit or trope of cop movies a lot of the times. So I'm not going to poke holes in that so many great corrections and emissions. I mean, truly everybody here really brought the heat, but I have to say the winner this week is Joe Tangello who really asked the most important question. Even if they were trying to solve the puzzle, it wouldn't make a difference. And that's why Joe, you have the best correction and omission and that's why you will get this amazing theme from Brendan Abella.

Usually if this kind of scenario people would something, but this time you will not then... Ah, would have been so great to get a prize, but you get a song. And Brendan, that song was worth it. It is a prize. All right, if you want to submit an alt movie tagline or chime in with your own thoughts about the latest episode, hit us up on discord at discord.gg slash hdtgm or call us at 619 Paul Ask. All right, coming up, Jason and I are going to talk about the tour, what we listen to, what it was like to go out there and meet all of you.

Balken II monsters. I mean, I had the best time on this tour. I think it might have been my favorite tour that we've ever done. So stick around as Jason and I just kind of catch up two days past the tour. Welcome back. You know that every Monday we release older episodes into the feed we just re-released the snowman which is a spiritual sequel to the hang Stitcher Premium is no longer active and we are trying to figure out a solution for that, but we don't have one yet. So right now this is the only way to hear the back catalog until we figure that out. Okay, so now it's time for a little just chat with me and Jason

as we just kinda, I don't know, talk about what it was like to be on the road. John Estonish, play us in. Jason and Paul just chat June and Paul just chat tall John She just how did this get made last look just chat Jason back from the tour that was so much fun. Wow. I mean we really went for it. I don't know how you feel, but I feel like, uh, I had a wonderful week, but I feel like a bus hit me. I'm exhausted. I can only imagine I got home. I was home at 11 a.m. L.A. time, the day after our final show in DC. And people are like, aren't you excited?

You're back home and I'm like, no, because my kids were back in with their kids. I can't even imagine. Yeah, I was so impressed that not only did you in June just crush every night, six nights, six shows, six cities, the whole thing, but you guys were doing full on family activities all day every day as we were.

We were on Codzilla, which is the boat in Boston that goes out with a very loose theme about Godzilla fish, and it basically is just an excuse for the boat to do donuts, and it was awesome. And you also were all doing this travel. Like travel just takes a toll. We're on planes, trains and all my bills. We're moving around, but I gotta say, it was worth it because every single night, every single night, these audiences brought it.

I mean, people showed up. It was great. And I don't know if this is just our audience who are incredible, or if it's especially an audience who has not gotten the opportunity to see us in four years, which is the case for most of these cities. Yes. We haven't been there since the tour of whatever, 2019,

it was, I think. Yeah, right? It was maybe actually maybe 2018 or not. Yeah, one of those. So, yeah, some of them got done in 2019, but regardless, a long time and people were incredible. They showed up in costumes, they gave us gifts,

they resumed, it was a very sweet pocket dog. Was absolutely amazing. I also have a crocheted seagull, a lot of great talented. We have all those friendship bracelets. Alla, the Taylor Swift Tour, people were making and trading. How did this get made themed friendship bracelets, the Allah, the Taylor Swift tour, people were making and trading. How did this get made themed?

Friendship bracelets, which was incredibly sweet and wholesome and heartwarming. I have to say, I wanna apologize to one person who I doubted on this tour. And that is Quesie 35 from the Discord. Quesie 35. Quesie showed up with four friends or three friends, all dressed with giant French fries attached to their shirt.

Oh, the Friday guys. The Friday guys. Now, when I went up to that balcony, I saw those guys and I was like, look at this, great costumes. We are ready to go. And then the first person I talked to in that grouping was like, I don't know what this was like, I've, don't know

what this show is. I've never heard it nor have I watched this movie. But yet he was in full costume and I'll see. Oh, yeah. Super drunk. Uh, and I was, well, it was the balcony. It was as per the rules in the balcony. And then I went over to what seemed to be the leader

of their group and I said to him, do you have a question to which he just said, what's that smell? Dookie! Which was a quote from No Holds Bard. And I was like, I'm moving and we were not covering that night. No, and I was like, oh brother, this is a mess.

And so when I saw this guy get down, I was like, we got a drunk man that we are going to have problems with. And he was in line for the second to sing a second opinion song. Yes. And that's what was like, it was like, oh, are we going to have a situation here? And then go ahead, Paul. Nails it, kill it, crushed it. Now I don't think I'm going to see anything again from fry guy, but then I find out he's a major discord guy. He's on discord all the time. He's queasy. Quasy.

Quasy 35. He is out there. I didn't based on my, my interactions with them in the balcony. I would have never of guessed that he is a diehard listener, you know, brought all his friends. So I give it up. He is a great, I, I judged a book by its drunk cover or I judged a book by its quote because I don't think he was drunk.

It was just anyone screaming dookie into the microphone. Yes. Well, I'm not going to trust. Correct me if I'm wrong, Paul, but when he came down to sing the second opinion song, didn't his tank top say dookie on it? Yes, it did. Okay, just making sure. And do you think that the people, I'm curious about this, do the fans all like go to the

same bar? Like is there a, is there a hang? Yes. Okay, yeah, that's what I'm wondering. Yes. So discord has been really great. Our moderators have created two separate spaces. One for just hang out, talk, picture sharing, where do you park that kind of chat and then

one which is where people have been submitting questions that I've now incorporated into the show, I'll go out into the audience knowing, oh, there might be somebody out here who has something, and it's hard for me to judge who will have a great question, but if we find a good one on there, we will go to them to kind of deliver it, like, again, not to keep on matching DC, the space lawyer,

the space lawyer, I got from the Discord. From the Discord. But what's interesting is the space lawyer makes himself known on the Discord, but then can't really talk about space law. When pressed to discuss space law, really box at it, which I was like, how dare you? I mean, and really, you can't advertise and not pay off.

I will say this, as I've been getting all the designs in from every night, because every night we make a shirt. And there was a strong contingent that people wanted a, I'm a space lawyer shirt. We didn't opt to do that. We did something a little bit different for the last show, which was a Mike Lindell themed Harvey Korman as Mike Lindell doing a my pillow ad for munchies, which is saying my munchie.

This makes no sense. This really makes this is maybe the shirt of the tour that makes the least sense in a pleasing way. I 100% agree with you, but I have to say that the, the LDPPD, the I love New Jersey Ninja with the wig, the seagull who's an outcast, the shirts are coming in really, really nice. But if that space lawyer would have given us some real info, he might have been shirt worthy. Immortalized, he might have been immortalized

on a t-shirt like Morgan. Like Morgan. I cannot wait for this audience to meet Morgan. I could spend the rest of this chat talking only about the glory of Morgan. Thank you, if you are listening, which you better fucking be Morgan. Thank you Morgan for providing like absolutely the entire spine of the Philly show was on Morgan because he made us understand Dungeons and Dragons in a way that was essential to us having a successful show. Thank you Morgan. And I'll also say first time anyone has been able to hold a mic for the entire show, he used it perfectly.

He was an amazing, an amazing audience member, additive. Like he set the tone. Maybe the tone. Maybe the, one of the best, well, no, I don't want to say one of the best because we've had some wonderful, wonderful, but he is. He is. He is. He is. He is. He is. He is. The woman who gave us all the insights into the background of all the drama. Oh, I'm upset. Yes. The Ugi loves, or I think it was Michael,

the Morbius expert in Chicago. Yes. We've had some good ones, but Morgan was incredible, because he did it the whole show. He didn't, he wasn't doing any bits. He was, you know, he had an economy of words for everything he needed to put through.

And the audience was loving him. The audience was obsessed with Morgan, the number of spontaneous Morgan, Morgan, chance that he erupted, not because we started them, but because the audience did, that's incredible. And Morgan is now the fourth host. And we love it. And so get ready for the new episode.

We're announcing it here. Morgan, last name unknown, is now the fourth host of How To This Get Made. You know, I just think that what I love about going out and meeting everybody is there are some people who really get the show from a listener standpoint. Like, yes. For example, the one person who traveled with us for all six shows,

a lovely human being, was there the entire time, gave some good advice to the audience at the end about what to do, especially with second opinion songs, and what we found was we gave everybody a little tip. We said, look, there's six, seven people singing songs. You're doing this for the audience, as much as the people at home. And we know, guys, we know you want us to include

every single second opinion song as long as it goes. We know that's what the audience is clamoring for. Episodes that are 20 minute plus of just audience singing, right? That's what do you guys want. We don't get any feedback that you guys don't like the second opinion. They want more. And I will say some people are actually mad that we cut out their second opinion songs. They came back to say, hey, I didn't like that you cut that out.

And I'm coming back again to not get cut out. But I'll tell you this much, the thing that we found on this tour that we've never found and I don't know why it took us so long to realize this was when you get to that peak, when the audience is behind you and you've nailed it, stop singing. Get out. Even if you have another verse written, even if you have more to go, bail when you get a big applause because the audience is already on your side, you're have more to go bail when you get a big applause because the audience is already on your side, you're only gonna go down from there.

And you know what, people listened and they did it. Like it was great direction that I feel like you gave to people such that they were able to kind of hit a high and then a couple people noticed it and just walked away heroes. And it was a wonderful moment. And I mean, brevity, solo wit on those songs. I really do believe it. I love those songs. But man, when people would do it, it was just, it was a beautiful moment of restraint.

And everybody was just fantastic. The audiences were amazing. The audience... I feel like the only hiccup we had, the only hiccup we had was, and it wasn't even really a hiccup, it was just that the New Jersey theater just didn't have chairs.

Yeah, for us. And that's really interesting as the first time. And that was, that show was crazy. And that I think is also part of what made us tired. Was that, I have to, you have to factor in, we stood for like you especially over two hours. It was big. It was it was why I train. It's why I work out because I don't know if we get to a venue when we don't have the proper setup. We have to be ready to go at a moment's notice and

and look we did it. You know, it's like the NBA players going into the bubble. No crowds, no problem. You know, we could, we had to do it. It makes me so happy that everybody comes out and gets rowdy on, especially on week nights. Yes. These are, it's a lot of people coming out, a lot of people who've gotten, I said it a couple nights, but it's a lot of people who've gotten babysitters. We are so grateful. I do think, Paul, what do you think?

I think there should be a, how did this get made t-shirt, not pinned to any of the shows, but to all tour shows, which is just how did this get made, presents, or how did this get made live, dash, mom and dad's night out? I don't know what it is. Yeah. I heard parents night out was a very big favorite on the discord as well. Parents night out. Good. You know, because, you know, I think that we're at an age where a lot of people are, look, I get citters when I go out to things. So you know that it's, you have to make it work. I love a parents night out shirt.

I think we'll capture the hearts of a lot of people. And also families night out, all those families that were there together, which made me so happy. Parents and children listening to the show together, coming to the show together. There was a baby, there was a very cute baby that I was too scared to hold, but boy did I want to, made me happy to see a baby still. Babies, still like the show, Paul, makes me happy.

Across the board, you all stepped it up. If you came out to the shows in your costumes with what you brought with what you brought with questions, energy, everything, it every night, we started off in Boston, which is a hard city to top as far as energy is concerned. And every night just continued to bring a different full energy. Standing ovation sold out shows, and I really believe it's all because the audiences make those shows their own. It wasn't the same show any night. Every night is a little bit different.

I mean, very different, oddly. Oh, wildly different. Yeah, and especially like, it's so fun to walk into a theater where everybody's shared an experience. It's not just we're all gonna share the experience of the show, but everybody's shared the experience of having just watched whatever that night's movie is. Which also colors the audience.

Like New York was so mad about Jonathan Livingston Seagull. So mad. So collectively angry that they fused together in a, like as a single entity, a 2600 seat single entity of hatred and anger for having had to watch. They booed the entire length of you showing the trailer because what people don't know is that prior to the show starting

with the theme song and all the rest, Paul does like an intro where he plays the trailer for the movie and next you get ready for it. Yeah. Do some and does some, just explain stuff to the crowd how the show is going to work anyway. There's a lot of pre, there's a lot of preamble including the trailer and for the entire minute and a half of the trailer, the audience booed hard for the entire length of the trail. It was hilarious. I mean, wow, that tour was fun. I didn't want it to end as tired as I was.

And we weren't as tired as we normally were because I think we did a very smart move, which is not to do two shows in one night. The last time we did this tour, never again, whatever it is. It was too many shows. Too old now to do two shows in one night. The last time we did this tour again. Whatever it was, it was too many shows. Too old, too old. We're too old now to do two shows a night for an entire week, it's crazy.

Yeah, but I still, I could have kept going if I'd had one night off, but had a night off, I could have done another couple of nights, which would have been great, because we were having so much fun. I know I came home and I had that feeling where I was like, oh, I've been the theater right now. I like that vibe.

It was so fun. Anyway, we'll go out more. Stay tuned because when we come back from a tour, we're always excited to go right back out. That's when it's good to start booking in this moment. We're excited. And we're excited. We had a good time.

I think we're going to be trying to do some more stuff throughout the rest of the summer in the fall So keep an eye out if you want us to come to your town Maybe we will but also Go on and buy the merch from this tour. There's fun stuff and you know Whether it's the t-shirts that we designed or I don't know can people buy Alex Forbes's balcony monsters poster? Is that like a no they can't be on that in line. That is a... Okay. Only. That's a live show only. Yes, we have a lot of merch that is exclusive to a live show.

Now I did hear something which I will figure out how to fix next tour, which is I think that has to be cash. Cash only in merch. So but we'll figure that out. I will tell you, we got to get back to New, you and I both, because I don't know if you heard about this. This is totally off topic, but I, you know, obviously we're talking about live shows. Did you know that there's a live show playing right now on Broadway that is called The Shark

Is Broken, which is all? Oh, yes, about Jaws. Yeah, I did not know about this. Yeah, I just, I think it's pretty new. I just heard about it. I cannot wait. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'd love to see that. Absolutely. It is a 95 minute admission free play. Oh, man, I was reading about it and I was like, I got to get back to New York. I got to see this thing. Oh, no, let's, I think I would love it. And maybe we can make this happen. Maybe we'll cut this out of this right now. My goal, my hope is that we do like a New York City residency.

Where we are in the city. We like to do that. We should do that. Or we're in the city for a week of shows, or you know, like some handful of night of shows, you know. Make it like a Vegas residency. Like, wait a minute. Exactly.

We can do that on the East Coast. And every night is Jonathan Livingston's Eagle. Ha ha ha. I would love it. I would love it. Jason, I know that you did a lot of driving. We did a lot of training. Did you listen to any podcasts

when you were out there on the road? I mean, I listened to stuff that I feel like I've talked about before. Yeah, got it. Some of the Andy Daley bananas for bananza stuff. There's new ones. And I want to know, yeah, they're still going. Oh, yeah, I didn't realize that.

Oh, my gosh. So he has spun off into his own Patreon now. Okay. So Andy Daley has his own Patreon that is, I think, just called Andy Daly Patreon maybe I don't know the Andy Daly podcast project it's called okay and it has but an as for bananza as well as a number of other recurring podcasts that the Andy Daly characters do hot dog has his own podcast the pretzel guy has his own podcast it, it's a cacophony of nonsense, all of it hilarious. Oh, I love that.

I think we talked about Valley heat on this before. Yes, we did. We love Valley heat. But boy, I listened to a bunch more of that. And that was absolutely, absolutely making me cry laughing. You know, I don't know if I talked about this podcast that I really like a lot. Did you know that McKay has a podcast? He did one called all right, so he did one about a year ago called Death at the Wing,

which was all about the NBA and about these not mysterious deaths, but these deaths of stars and and how they were all kind of connected. And it's great. If you're an MBA fan, if you're just a history fan, it's great. But now he's done this new one called Death on the Lot, which is all about 1950s Hollywood. And it's all about this idea of how this, the culture of the time, they talk about James Dean,

they talk about these big Hollywood systems, it's very, very interesting. Like basically post war America is trying so hard to be happy. And in that time, you're also getting all these very interesting deaths that are not, like, you know, not that anyone was killing anyone, but it was like, sure, but the pressure of the time, he's great. It's a great doc show. I love his stuff.

It's all about like labor unions and a lot of really cool stuff. James Dean, like I said, yeah, really a George Reeves cool stuff. That sounds very interesting. That sounds cool too. It's like one of my favorite seasons of You Must Remember This, the Karina Longworth podcast is the Star Wars, I think it's called season, which is how all of the stars interacted with an intersected with World War II.

Yes, exactly. And that was a great season of that show. I love that stuff. So that's what I was listening to or watching. Oh, that's great. And by the way, just feeding movies into my brain, nonstop, I couldn't, like it was a really interesting thing to be so singularly focused on nothing else.

Oh, every day. But every day. Yes. Every day being like having to be like, okay, I got to watch this whole piece of shit movie right now, cramming it in the green room or in the last moments while you were on stage doing stuff. I was just like trying to get through it. I really, yeah, my brain hurts from that.

Like it really does, like it does feel like it. I will say one thing, one downside of the tour. And this is just me taking issue with place in New York called Chelsea Pierce. Place that I was a fan of. I still am a fan of ultimately, but God damn Chelsea Pierce is expensive. I went to Chelsea Pierce with my kids. We did a bunch of different stuff. Golfing, bad encages, because again, we have to make this a full on family vacation and nightly show. I put $30 into a token machine at an arcade. $30.

Guess how many games we played for $30? Wait, and what kind of games are we talking? We, one was a VR game, and one was a... Okay. And then there's another one, Papa Shot, then there's like other just regular arcade games. And got it, got it. Yeah, so, wow.

So $30, when we were kids, would have been like dozens of games. Yeah. So I'm gonna say less than, so 10, less than 10? Two. Two. Ha, ha, ha, ha. When I put the cards, 10 to two When I put the cards when I put the card in the third game and they said you don't have funs I was like what the fuck?

Fun's oh One was a game in which they wore a VR headset Right, they both wore it and then the other one was Papa Shot. That was it. Holy shit. 30 bucks. We were in and out of that arcade in five minutes.

I was. That's hysterical. I was furious. You've got to be livid. Yeah, that's curious. I mean, and this is coming from someone who rode Codzilla for whatever the fuck that cost. I mean, I'm sure that

was 60 bucks ahead. Codzilla makes me laugh. The funniest thing about Codzilla is the host of Codzilla, the boat. He's not even the captain. He's just the narrator, the MC, the MC of it. You're, you're going to get wet. I mean, that's basically it. You're gonna get soaked, but he still has to do this dumb bit. Like he's got to, like, make a reference as you pass the jail that the owner of this company

is in the jail right now because some tourists got hurt. You know, they play like, they play like a Led Zeppelin as you're out there. Like, you know, it's like, it's just, it's the silliest thing ever. I'm looking at the website for it now. It's like, you know, and it's got an energy to it, where it's like, yeah.

Secure your hats, scarves, eyewear, and bad hair pieces. You know, it's like that kind of an energy, but the kids had a great time and we were soaked. And it's just you guys riding around in a boat and they pretend like there's a there's a there's a there's a mutant fish chasing you and you have to run away from it. This is where the again, and you are adapting Godzilla, right? I just the right strike is over. I am going to take Godzilla out. And then I'm going to write the play, the cod is broke.

And honestly, it's going to be great. It's going to be great. I will say this just one more thing on Godzilla. They truly don't even try to give you that much. They bring you out to a place to go. That's where they recycle waste. There's a rumor, there's a fish out here who ate some of that toxic waste.

Then all of a sudden you hear the sonar, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. And then the boat just starts doing donuts. And then it's like, okay, we got away. That's the story. That's the story of Godzilla. Now look, did I get there, did I buy my ticket for the story or did I buy it for the 360 degree spins?

That's true. I bought it for the spins, but I will say, they could have put a cap in that story in a different way. Not just we escaped. Oh man. And just because you asked me earlier what I was listening to in the car, I'll throw out some music that I was listening to as well off of my summer 2023 playlist.

Who would love that? There's a couple songs from the new Hannah Jaggedy album, Luz and what you did. Some tracks from Feeble Little Horse. I'm just going to throw out band names. I love it. And sometimes titles to cowboy nudes from Geese. A bunch of the tracks from the bar Italia album, Nurse exclamation point, being one of them. Eastern Ave from Flasher. Some a bunch of stuff from this is the kids' new record,

which is once again just a fantastic, fantastic record. Big thief have new music out. Billy Big Thief have new music out. Billy Tibbles has new music out. There's a lot of great stuff. A lot of it, just like, you like really nuts stuff that I'll, maybe again, I've no, I talk about it all the time. I wanna put new squirrel flower is out. These all sound like pretend names that I make out.

I know, I was gonna say.. Cut worms has new music out. Blake Mills, who we saw play with Joni Mitchell. Oh, yeah. He has a new record out that's beautiful. Man, there's a song by a guy named Darryl Jones that's just called Gabriel. It's the only song of his that I've ever found. Can't stop listening to it. Great job, Darryl Jones. Anyway, these are just some of the. Where you find it? I mean, this is my question to it. Great job, Darryl Jones. Anyway, thank you for the- Where you find this, where you find it. I mean, this is my question to you, I was like, yeah. How are you getting turned on to your own this music?

You know, this is interesting. Getting turned on to new music at our age is such a difficult thing. And it's the thing that I struggle with the most because also because a lot of the ways that I used to discover new music have gone away. Right. You know, record stores, there used to be a record store in San Francisco called Aquarius Records. Speaking of which, Aquarius Records, Andy, Jim, the gang, where's the documentary?

They're supposed to be an Aquarius Records documentary. I want to watch it. Same thing I want to watch the Judy-Sill documentary. Oh, guys, where are these documentaries? Get these documents out there. Anyway, well, I'll tell you what's the deal. I mean, look, I told you on tour backstage that I went on a deep dive of Taylor Swift. I like Taylor Swift, but I got into all the stories,

and now I'm like, I feel like I'm reading this giant novel that I haven't had access to, or I have had access to. I just didn't know how to- I'm like, I feel like I'm reading this giant novel that I haven't had access to or I have had access to. I just didn't know how to kind of get into it. And boy, oh boy, I mean, who's writing a song about who and why I'm oh, oh yeah. You were talking, yeah, that's right. You were talking a lot about like all of the exes, all the songs of the exes.

Oh yeah. Oh, that's great. I'm fascinated. And by the way, you listen to it and you're like, oh, this is interesting. It's a very, I mean, I'm all in. I'm all in. I saw that show.

It's a great show. You can't see that show again until 2014. I'm jealous. I'm jealous. It's a great show. You would love it. I love it. I love it.

Anyway, to answer your question, I find music all over the place. You know, whether it's on band camp or on, still Subscribe I still use an RSS feed. I still use my RSS feed to subscribe to websites including a lot of Music websites, so I'm aggregating a lot of different music sites to give me their reviews to give me their What's new to give me their best reissues to give me their best best new stuff, all that stuff. And Bandcamp itself does a good job of kind of putting grouping stuff together. They'll do like a best jazz, best new jazz this month on Bandcamp, kind of list, or stuff like that, or you know,

so whether it's all that, or whether it's, I still listen to the radio a lot. I still listen to the radio as a method of getting turned on to stuff, you know. Look at this. And this was fun to like be cruising for hours and just be like flipping through the radio. And like in DC, in the middle of the night, driving into DC the night we, we left our show, we did our show in Philly and then I drove to DC that night.

The last half of that drive, I found a guy doing like an African music show on like DC Public Radio and it was incredible. The whole thing was fantastic. Oh, all right, this is great. Well, thank you Jason. People will be hearing all of our tour shows starting next week and you will see what we have in store for you. They're going to be big fun shows and next time here jason and i will be taking some of your questions concerns comments about your life and will be helping you with that now that we got hangman out of the way let's talk about next week's movie we

are going from an alpachino cop to an elin bark in a body swap that's right next week we are watching the nineteen ninety one body swap. That's right. Next week we are watching the 1991 body swap comedy switch starring Ellen Barkin, Jimmy Smith's Joe Beth Williams and Lorraine Braco. Short break down to the plot, a sexist womanizer is killed by a group of his former lovers and gets reincarnated as a woman. Oh boy, it's so much more than that too. Ron Damedos gives us film a 32% score on the tomato meter and Jeff Brown from the Times UK says, if this movie were on television, you would switch.

Boom! Slam dunk! Nailed it, Jeff Brown. Anyway, let's take a listen to the trailer. After Steve died, God sent him back. As a blonde. Now, a guy who used to use women is finding out first hand. That was no way to treat a lady.

Hellenbarket, seem like it would newest comedy. Switch. Have a nice day. Kenny Smith's rated R. Now playing at a theater near you. Oh, cannot wait for you to watch this movie. It's our first tour show from Boston, What a Crowd. We also have a very special guest,

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