How Did This Get Made? - Last Looks: Kraven the Hunter [Jason Edition]
Episode Date: April 25, 2025Jason is back to help Paul respond to your corrections & omissions on Kraven the Hunter and continues his mission to disconnect the discord! They chat about Sylvester Stallone's writing credit on Jaso...n Statham's A Working Man, Sony's Spider-Man Universe plans, and if an old Kraven the Hunter comic book actually started the MeToo movement. Plus, they share a bonus deleted scene from our Kraven the Hunter live show and announce next week's new movie. Help save the Institute of Museum & Library Services at: www.artsworkersunited.com/take-action-save-the-imlsSubmit your Last Looks theme song to us here Get tix for our May 9th Toronto show at hdtgm.comHave a correction or omission for Last Looks? Call 619-PAULASK to leave us a voicemail!Buy HDTGM merch at howdidthisgetmade.dashery.com/Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of TraumaJoin the HDTGM conversation on Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmShop our new hat collection at podswag.comPaul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheerPaul’s YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheerFollow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheerSubscribe to Enter The Dark Web w/ Paul and Rob Huebel: youtube.com/@enterthedarkwebListen to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson: unspooledpodcast.comListen to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael: thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcastInstagram: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & @junedianeTwitter: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & msjunediane Jason is not on social mediaEpisode transcripts available at how-did-this-get-made.simplecast.com/episodesGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm
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Muscle-Bound Hunks, Craven Leads the Me Too Movement, and we are joined by Jason Manzoukas,
all this and more on today's Last Look.
Wait, I'm here too?
Hit the theme! I just take a last look There's just so many ways to say that movies suck
And it keeps up
They're always fucked
Can't explain my book, my eyes are tearing up
And I'm nearly stuck
I've got a movie that bops
Until he ends none of his movies, next stop Hello all my Tony Bennett and John Goodman impersonators.
It's me, Paul Scheer, and today I am joined by Mr. Jason Manzoukis.
Jason, how's it going?
Well, well, well.
Here we go.
Back in action.
Can you believe it?
I cannot.
I'm excited that we are joining together
to look through last looks
because we got a lot of big stuff today.
I also just want to call out
that the Toronto show is almost sold out.
I'm excited for people to go
and the people have been asking,
what movie are you doing?
And since it's been a long time, Toronto,
we wanted to bring you something good.
We are doing the musical with Sylvester Stallone called Oscar. What movie are you doing? And since it's been a long time, Toronto, we wanted to bring you something good.
We are doing the musical with Sylvester Stallone
called Oscar.
Wait, he's done multiple, we did one with Dolly Parton.
I think Molly said earlier, it's not actually a musical.
Yeah, it's a screwball, not a musical.
Oh, screwball.
Okay, well, look, here's the thing.
Screwball, musical.
Whew, okay.
You saw me just have a panic attack.
Well, the idea that I would have to endure another Sylvester Stallone
singing movie also Paul, how aware are you?
I'm curious of the fact that Sylvester Stallone wrote the movie, A Working Man.
The new Jason Statham, David Ayer movie
is scripted by Sylvester Stallone.
Okay, well I've been saving that movie
because I've been like, I wanna watch it
either for the show or really enjoy it.
Holy shit.
Here's what I'm gonna say.
Here's what I felt similarly.
And granted, take this with a grain of salt,
I've only watched the first hour.
It is not the joyous Jason Statham Beekeeper vibes
that we want, I'm afraid.
It is, it feels a lot more, let's say, Stallonian.
Well, by the way, here's what I think is going on.
We talked about this, which everybody on the podcast
will hear in a couple of weeks,
but in the Expendables movie, I feel like Stallone has a bunch of
scripts that are just floating around and when he doesn't do one, he kind of throws
them out to somebody else. And this felt like, wow, I love that he is. I mean, the fact that
Stallone has not gotten a writing credit on Tulsa King is surprising. I mean, I'm shocked.
I'm shocked. He's not in those rooms. I mean, but... I'm shocked. I'm shocked he's not in those rooms.
I mean, he loves to put his name on stuff.
We talked about this during Cobra.
He put his name on the book that Cobra...
Yes, the book that the movie is based on,
he wanted to re-release the book with his name as the author.
Oh, my gosh. Well, this...
Incredible stuff.
This is a moment in time, this Oscar movie,
where Stallone is trying to be like Schwarzenegger,
do comedies, and he did like a gangster comedy.
I remember this as something that was released,
that I did not go and see.
Same, same, I remember it, you know,
the VHS box is ubiquitous,
because it was a big movie, a failure,
but a big movie nonetheless,
because it was a Stallone movie.
So, and in those years that was something to be,
you know, celebrated, but boy, I was not interested.
And now, by the way, the fun thing about Toronto is
we decided since we were going all the way out there,
we would do a little dinosaur show the night before.
Small, bespoke, intimate rooms, no microphones
with a great cast, Lennon Parham, Lisa Gilroy,
they're joining us as well as Seth Morris
and Chad Carter in Toronto.
That is gonna be fun.
That's a night before that is on Thursday.
Come see us do improv in a small setting.
It is a great show, great people, and it's gonna crush.
Toronto, you've never seen comedy before, right?
Second City, question mark?
How about Dinosaur Improv Toronto?
At Second City, so you'll get-
Oh wait, it's at Second City.
Oh, okay, just kidding, love Second City, big fan.
But then after that, we're gonna head right over
to Chicago, back at the Den.
Again, smaller venue than what we've been doing
with the same cast plus Owen Burke
for a couple shows there.
So you can get tickets at HDTGM.com,
but these shows will sell out quick
because they are smaller,
but I'm excited to go back to Chicago.
I love that room.
The Den is awesome.
Great room.
We had great shows there last year.
Excited to go back, excited to walk around Chicago,
eat some good food,
hang out with all the meats.
I can't wait.
All the meats of Chicago.
Oh, and by the way, the thing that is important to mention
is that June will be with us in Toronto.
So- Oh yeah.
That's exciting.
Oh yeah. A very exciting time.
So lest you think that June has,
we've lost June completely, nope, she's back in,
she's gonna be watching these terrible movies.
And you know, I will say, I'll miss Sinclair. I'll miss that chaotic screaming entity beside
me on stage, but it will be great to have June back.
But here's the thing, people don't even know what they're getting with Sinclair because
they only heard the first episode, Craven the Hunter, which we're going to talk about
in this episode.
Which we had June 4 as well.
Exactly, so we got,
you've only just seen the tip of the iceberg.
Jessica descends into insanity as the shows go on.
Oh, by the end of the tour,
yeah, St. Claire was nearly hospitalized.
She was almost institutionalized.
We almost had to 5150 her.
By the way, we always ask you to submit a tagline
for the movies that we do. And so here is a tagline from Ghost Bag, Craven the Hunter.
He was in equatorial Africa with my dad
when he was hunting lions right before he died.
Love it.
Little Madam Web, it's longer.
I like a punchier one, but I like that we went back there.
And it's a call, but you really have to know
the Sony Spider-Man villain-iverse.
But yes.
I love it all.
All right, so thank you Ghost Bag for that tagline.
Remember, if you have an alt movie tagline title,
submit it to us on our Discord,
and we may read it on the show.
Now, Jason, like I said,
we are gonna get into corrections
and omissions in just a bit.
Oh, I can't.
You're telling me that people have corrections
on our comic book based movie knowledge?
Oh, they're gonna come at us hot.
I wanna also give a thanks to Chris Chaney
for that opening theme.
And I gotta say one more thing, Jason,
people are getting very excited about Taskmaster.
I keep on seeing more and more promo.
See you out there May 1st, right?
Or May 4th, is it?
May 1st, so it'll air May 1st on Channel 4 in the UK
and then it will air May 2nd on YouTube and everywhere else.
So it'll be up, the new episodes will be up week to week
starting May 2nd on YouTube.
So go to YouTube right now,
go to the Taskmaster page and subscribe.
I've already seen some clips of you on stage now.
There's like little moments.
It looks great.
You look so good up there.
It's so crazy to see footage of me
on the Taskmaster stage.
It seems strange to me.
I am legitimate.
This is the event of the year.
And I was telling you before we started recording, my kids started
watching the good place, uh, and they were very pleasantly surprised to see Derek.
And now I believe I'm going to blow their mind when, uh, when,
when they see taskmaster now, the only benefit of the good place was.
We've been burning through it.
They've been loving it.
Uh, but they turned to June after watching a couple seasons
and they're like, mom, why aren't you in this show?
June's like, I don't know, but I was in Parks and Rec
and they're like, what?
We don't care.
We only-
Yeah, they don't want it.
But it is so funny when my kids are watching this stuff
because they're like, do you know Janet?
And every now and then my son, who I love so much,
but sometimes we'll say the dumbest things,
he goes, I go, yeah, I know Janet.
And he goes, do you know bad Janet?
I'm like, they're the same person.
I would love it.
That's such a funny thing that your kids have,
like they have another element or level
that you might know the people that
are on the TV shows.
Oh, yeah.
What a strange thing.
And I remember my nieces when they were younger, when they were probably closer to your kids'
age, were similarly asking me questions about something I had done and do I know this person
and do I know that person.
And they were all people that I knew.
And I was like, oh, yeah, I know that person.
I can't remember.
And then she thought for a second, my niece thought for a second and then said,
do you know Reba?
And I was like, Reba McEntire?
She was like, yes, do you know Reba?
She was probably eight years old.
Oh my gosh.
And turns out they had discovered the TV show Reba
in reruns and were obsessed with it.
And I was like, I felt so, it felt so cool to be like,
oh yeah, I do know that person.
For them to be so excited about Reba
and to have to admit I do not know Reba,
they were palpably disappointed.
Well, this is the thing is like,
they will always pull out something truly crazy,
but I did have a weird interaction with my, I'm just saying like a third cousin,
wonderful kid, younger kid.
And he's like, you're in that movie with Jennifer Garner, right?
And I was like, yeah.
Yeah.
And he's like, is she nice?
I'm like, she's the best, the coolest, like literally a fun as hell person.
And I'm telling him that.
And he goes, you think, uh, you could ask her if you'd ever go on a date with me.
I was like, Oh, no, I can't.
Maybe we could just hang out with her if I ever come out there.
Like, oh, I don't, I like it.
It was so sweet.
But also he's got a crush on Jennifer Garner.
And what I love about it too is Jennifer Garner from 2025.
He's like a 13 year old.
Like he's not like he didn't see 13 going on 30 or alias. Like he's just like a 13 year old. Like, he's not like... He didn't see 13 going on 30.
Or alias. Like, he's just like, I like that.
I would like to, I would like to meet her
and see if I could strike up something.
The sweetest thing.
And it was hard for me to come down.
Anyway, we'll be right back after this quick break.
Wait, but do you think she'd go on a date?
Well, I mean, I'll try to, I'll DM her.
We'll see what she says.
We'll be right back after this.
How did this go big?
How did this go big?
Welcome back.
Last week we talked at length about Craven the Hunter.
We had questions.
You have answers.
You might've even wanted to take a moment to say,
Paul, Jason, Jessica, June, you're wrong.
Here's your chance to do it all.
It's now time for Corrections and Omissions.
All right.
Thank you Bionic Limbs for that theme song.
Here we go.
Sean McBee writes, all right, Jason, it gets me nervous to do this in front of you because
these are always so weirdly worded.
I can't, by the way, I can't believe you do this.
Oh.
I can't believe you entertain this nonsense.
I love it.
I love our Discord. From these lunatics.
All right, so.
Disconnect the Discord.
Sean McBee really does bring,
by the way, that shirt is selling.
There is a little cartoon of you unplugging a computer.
It's pretty great.
Uh, Sean McBee writes,
if the point of these Sony movies is to build up a Spider-Man universe
so they can all jump straight into action
with a bunch of established villains and supporting characters,
when Sony regains the rights to use Spider-Man,
then why introduce Rhino just to kill him off?
He's a major Spider-Man villain
that is dead before Spider-Man even gets a chance to fight him.
I'm beginning to think that Sony has no idea of what they are doing.
Well, I mean, yeah, right? I mean, yes, clearly. I mean, they are as evidenced by each of these movies and their
incoherence. I don't think they have much of a plan. Sean McBee.
I don't think that Spider-Man is ever coming back to Sony.
I think that that, I mean, technically,
that could be a door that opens, but it's just,
it doesn't feel like that's ever gonna happen.
I think the idea is that there's...
It's clearly what they want, you know?
Like, I think Sony keeps thinking, oh, great,
now that Marvel has done us a solid
and established this character, we can now pull him back.
I remember a couple of years ago,
they were saying after the last Spider-Man
where Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield showed up
that perhaps one of them would keep going forward
while Tom Holland dipped in,
was pulled back into the Sony-verse And there was some, some drama around that.
Right.
There's a whole thing.
I mean, here's the thing.
I feel like they are not really trying to build a universe as much as build a
bunch of movies that are loosely connected on theme, right?
Because they're not even in the same, I mean, I guess they're in the same world.
I think they are.
I think they, I think there are people at Sony who, and I'm certain not by the time
they got to Craven, who I believe were trying to set up basically the Sinister Six or some
version of that they could then drop Spider-Man into and be like, okay, now Spider-Man is
inside of a world of his villains.
Okay, terrific.
There was a great Sony script that had the Sinister Six in it,
and it was, I mean, but again, that's a weird thing.
It's almost like better if Sony just keeps
on shuttling stuff over to Marvel
and make a good movie like that.
Make us stand alone.
Absolutely, I also think that Sony has shown
over and over again that they don't truly understand,
with the exception of Venom,
what these stories should be about.
Well, I'll argue that the reason why Venom works
in a weird way is because it really became
like a creator-driven thing.
It's a Tom Hardy.
An auteur-driven movie.
It really is.
Sadly, Tom Hardy is the auteur
who's absolutely out of his mind and I love it.
Do you wanna read this next one?
This is from Hangnong Man. Okay? This is from Hangnong Man.
Okay, this is from Hangnong Man.
Jason joked about the White Lotus brothers in this episode, and it turns out Craven actually does have a White Lotus connection.
Alessandro Nivola, aka the Rhino, is the father of Sam Nivola, aka the White Lotus younger brother, Lachlan Ratliff.
Now that's what I call capital S synergy.
Okay, Hangnong Man. Now, that's what I call capital S synergy. BROCKETT LAUGHS
Okay, hey, Nong Man.
Uh, first of all, capital S, why synergy?
Is it a proper name? Is it a noun?
Why capital S synergy?
Okay, and yes, this is a classic
disconnect the Discord question.
I don't need to be, this is just, this is information.
This is not...
It has nothing to do with the joke.
It's got a real gotcha.
You know, it's got, ha ha, did you know this- Right, it has nothing to do with the joke. It's got a real gotcha.
You know, it's got, ha ha, did you know this?
Yeah, yeah, well we know that Sam Navola
is the child of Alessandra Navola
and the actress Emily Mortimer, one of the true greats.
Love her.
And I thought the kid was great.
I thought all the Nepo babies were great in White Lotus.
I thought Schwarzenegger was fantastic.
I gotta watch, I've never seen it.
Never seen a single episode.
It's so fun.
I gotta get into it.
You will enjoy it as a, here's what I'll say,
sometimes the monocultural show
can feel at times like a weight.
Yes.
You know, like, ugh, I gotta watch this intense,
like adolescence feels like that to me right now.
And I have not watched it yet because I'm like, okay, I know this is watch this intense, like adolescence feels like that to me right now.
And I have not watched it yet because I'm like,
okay, I know this is gonna be intense and difficult.
It's gonna be incredible and a feat of production
to do these wonders and that's cool,
but I know the subject matter is tough.
But the White Lotus, the opposite.
It is, it's breezy, baby.
It's fun as hell. I love it. All right, so let's go to the phones. Jesse, what do you got? Hi, Paul and folks, the opposite. It is a, it's breezy, baby. It's fun as hell.
I love it.
All right.
So let's go to the phones.
Jesse, what do you got?
Hi, Paul and folks, Jesse here.
I love the Craven episode, but there's an omission from the comics.
I wish y'all had brought up.
And that's that period in the book when the original Craven was dead and his son
took over and then became a movie producer.
And they did a whole get shorty-esque parody and a story where Craven hung out
with Jay Leno.
It was during the early 2000s
written by the late Ron Zimmerman, I think.
I think that would have made it for a better movie.
Thanks, bye.
Whoa, first of all.
That's funny.
I'm gonna get, it's called Get Craven?
Get Craven, yeah. Oh wow.
Oh wow. I don't know this book.
I may have to get that. Funny, yeah.
I like this, all right, great.
Now that's information that I like just because I'm like, okay, I'm on board with that. And also this. All right, great. That's information that I like
just because I'm like, okay, I'm on board with that.
And also you left it in a great way, Jesse.
Well, it's also like that to me isn't like,
you idiots, you didn't say the thing.
It's like, hey, you talked about this.
Maybe you'd also like this thing.
I love a recommendation.
That's a good one.
Fun as hell.
I did a little research on that book.
It's kind of universally accepted as being terrible,
but an interesting thing is-
So you're saying our fans have absolute knowledge
of terrible comics runs as well as terrible movies?
Who would've thought?
But the interesting thing is it has two movie
executive brothers called the Rothsteins
that are clearly takeoffs of the Weinsteins,
and in the book they were called out for kind of being like
piece of shit rapists way back in 2002, like before any of it came out public.
So I don't know.
Get Craven.
Craven is really leading, led the Me Too movement in a way.
I mean.
Yep.
Craven.
Yeah.
That's where it all started with Craven.
All right.
Kate from Austin, what do you got?
Hey, this is Kate from Austin, not the one from White Lotus.
I was just at your Austin, Texas show, and I just wanted to touch on the Rhino Does This
Shriek, and I really thought y'all were going to talk about it, and you didn't, and I would
just love to hear what you have
To say about that huge huge choice. Thank you guys for coming to Texas. Have a good night
Well, I mean look this is something that I was bummed that we did not play the Shriek. Let's hear the oh, yeah
I don't remember it here. You'll love it the crap enough hit failed
All of our guys are dead. Huh.
Yeah.
Choice.
Yeah, I guess I kind of remember that.
Yeah, that's fun.
We should have played that.
That's fun.
He does also has another like, like at the end right before he gets killed.
Like he, I like that he's vocalizing like an animal, in a way.
Yeah, I like that too.
You know, like I feel like,
I feel like Neville is doing as much as he can
with a character who unfortunately spends very little time
in his scary monstrous form as the Rhino.
And for the most part looks like a tech bro in a backpack.
You know?
Yes.
So where he can be weird, I enjoy him being weird.
I think the movie, it's a bummer because it's just hard.
It's hard to, I think it's hard to find your angle in,
in a movie like this where he has to not be the villain
for the majority of the film.
I mean, that's the thing.
He's gotta be, like you you said the tech bro who is not
It doesn't even seem like there's nothing even fun with that
Like I'd love to see him like a more of a Steve Jobs guy. He's just he's an he's an angry tech, bro
And then he's like a angry Rhino. It's a hard. There's not enough variation. I don't play. I agree complete
I agree completely. It's just a none of it works. Uh, let's do one more phone call here. What do we got here?
Hey Paul, maybe Jason.
I just finished the Craven Hunter episode.
One thing I noticed when I was watching it,
I don't know if I'm crazy or not,
but it definitely seems like they had the CGI mouths
on some of the characters.
Like maybe they changed some lines
and they put the CGI mouths
that looks like they were about to float off.
It was most noticeable in the scene
when they're at the sexless nature cabin, talking to Calypso, and it looks like Calypso are about to float off. It was most noticeable in the scene when they're at the sexless nature cabin,
talking to Calypso, and it looks like her lips
are about to like just come off her face.
Let me know what you think.
Great, love the show, bye.
Okay, let's see.
Exactly, look at what you became.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, big time.
Look at what you became.
So that's really interesting.
So this is a big AI thing right now. Yeah, big time. Look at what you became. So that's really interesting. Yeah, it's bad.
So this is a big AI thing right now.
So one of the uses for AI that they're talking about coming in and using pinpoint AI stuff
is to go in and change the mouth shapes for shows that are, like say you want to watch
Dark, the German show Dark, and you're like,
oh, but I don't wanna watch the clunky dub of it
and I don't wanna watch it in German,
there are now going to be AI filters
that will make the mouth shapes match
whatever language is being used in the show.
So I think this is an early attempt at something.
I don't know that this was AI to be clear,
but that's what they're trying to do is change mouth shapes. Well, here's what I'll say too.
I know for a fact, I won't name the person,
very famous person, very hands-on author,
not Tom Hardy, who-
Is it alone?
Yes, no, who will in editing have a green screen set up
and they will literally get, uh, that person's
mouth to pop it in.
It's like, you know, so it couldn't even be that person's mouth.
It's an odd, that does look weird.
Oh yeah.
That one looks very weird, but yeah, like unnerving.
The other one that I thought was really.
Of setting.
And this is different, but that remember that show, different world,
the spin-off of the Cosby show.
Sure. yeah.
They AI upgraded it for Netflix,
and to make the resolution higher,
because they have to make the resolution better.
And if you look at any of the writing on the wall,
it's all that weird AI,
because they can't write text the right way,
it's bonkers.
Oh, weird.
Yeah, so if you look at a different world
in whatever resolution is on Netflix,
you can see how weird the 4K AI upressing is.
It's really, really weird.
Yeah, all right.
All right, back to the Discord.
Sean McBee writes.
Back to the Discord?
Yeah, we gotta go back.
I felt so good being away from it.
I know, for a second we had some voicemail. And now I'm plunged back into the cesspool that is the Discord? Yeah, we gotta go back. I felt so good being away from it. I know, for a second we had some voiceover.
And now I'm plunged back into the cesspool
that is the Discord?
Well, Sean's gonna give us some more villain gripes.
While I understand Sony was setting up Chameleon
for a role in a future movie,
I found it super irritating that his mimicry
was established multiple times throughout the movie
but never paid off in the course of the story.
It was clearly there just to establish another villain,
which feels cheap.
If his mimicry had come into play at the end to
facilitate even something as simple as deceiving a
henchman, it would have been so much more rewarding.
Yeah, I agree.
I agree with that.
I think that that is an interesting, weird
choice because he is singing Tony Bennett and I
don't even want to get into the Tony Bennett.
I'm not.
Wow.
People have been like, I thought I could figure it
out and I'm lost.
Like I've seen so many comments.
People were lost by that.
Yeah, so good point.
Again, good point.
Yeah, good point.
I mean, I think you're pointing out a larger problem
which is that the story doesn't really add up, you know?
But that character is the chameleon.
He is Craven's brother.
So having him there made sense.
It just was, yeah, why not use it? I mean, there we go.
Did you want to, do you even want to read one more in here?
What do you think?
It says Jason, you want to read one more?
No, I don't, but I guess I have to.
Um, okay.
So this is from I fed, A Y E F E D.
When the rhino first reveals that he signed up for scientific study to increase strength,
he reveals that his skin became tough and gray as an adverse reaction.
But did anyone notice the, all caps, fucking rhino horns on the top of his head?
How does even the most poorly administered and dangerous scientific study not only mess
with his skin, but also give him rhinoceros horns?
I couldn't stop laughing out loud. It was like a child invented the character and the backstory.
Also, does that mean there are hundreds of other people out there that also took the study and now
have rhinoceros parts? Question mark exclamation point. Well, now this I like only because that's
how they didn't kill off the rhino. We just met one Rhino, I think. Yeah. Yeah.
And I also think, much in the same way that comics,
nobody ever really dies.
I think if they were to have a movie
and this Rhino came back, they would, no problem.
That's fine. Like, I don't think anybody ever really dies
in comic book movies.
The same way that they don't really die
in comic books themselves.
Anyway, my guess to this writer is that I suspect he noticed the rhinoceros horns, to
be clear, and my suspicion is that the scientist was using rhinoceros DNA or something because
they have such hard skin in an effort to increase the strength and then the rest of it came
along with it.
That's why. I can tell you, yeah, the scientists on this movie,
that was the only thing that was really done on the level.
This is true, like that would actually happen.
So I just want everybody to know,
like don't question the science.
All the science checks out.
The science checks out.
We checked it.
We checked it, the science checks out.
Now, Jason, I know that you wouldn't want
to even reward people for writing in their comments.
I'd rather they wouldn't.
Yeah, well, this helps everybody get through the weeks here.
If you had to pick a winner though,
who do you think came in hottest here?
I know who the loser is, it's you and I.
It's you and me.
Ah!
Um, I don't know who the winner is.
What are we talking about?
I mean, I would say Jesse to me.
Jesse from the, who gave us the comics run.
Yeah.
I like someone who's giving a recommendation, an earnest recommendation, for what I'm now told is us the comics run. Yeah. I like someone who's giving a recommendation,
an earnest recommendation for what I'm now told
is a terrible comics run.
Ha ha ha.
You get this amazing song from Seth Chatfield.
Hit it, Seth.
Rose to the top to defeat all the others.
You really honored your father and mother.
You brought it all and you went all in.
Guess what buddy, you win nothing.
Now, by the way, there's a new way to submit songs.
It's on the HDTGM.com website.
Go there, submit your songs there.
You just drop it in the drop box.
Easy peasy, done, keep them short.
All right, remember, if you wanna chime in
with your thoughts, and remember,
you know, they have to hold up to Jason's, you know.
Scrutiny. Yeah, exactly.
You could do it at discord.gg slash HDTGM
or call us at 619-P-A-U-L-A-S-K, that's 619-Paul-Ask.
Okay, coming up after the break,
Jason and I will announce next week's movie,
but first take a listen to this bonus second opinion song
from our Crave and the Hunter live show.
Now it's time for second opinions.
Hello, I'm Jamie.
You can turn around if you want to face the crowd
rather than us.
This means a lot to me.
You guys are hilarious and beautiful and amazing and please run for office ASAP.
These ones.
You guys can, it's optional, but ideally the middle.
No, no, I get you.
Okay.
I've been told I'm unelectable.
But if you grow out that hair.
Get that haircut.
Oh yeah, wax me down and I'm good to go.
He's got the blood of a lion or a vampire. Is this just Twilight?
Cause he hunts like Edward.
But he's really bad at parkour.
Falling off by buildings are lions immortal.
Why doesn't he ever roar? I'm just gonna give five stars. Woo! Amazing!
Way to go Texas!
Thank you so much!
Call your representatives please.
Alright, if you're looking for a companion piece, if you need a little extra, how did
this get made?
Every Tuesday we re-release all the songs that we release. All right. If you're looking for a companion piece, if you need a little extra, how did this get
made every Tuesday, we re-release old episodes.
This week's matinee was tough turf with James Spader and next week will be return of Xander
Cage with Adam Scott.
We got to get Adam Scott back on.
We got a fantastic, one of my favorite episodes of TV this year is the Golden Globes episode of the studio.
I haven't seen that one yet.
Seth and Evans show the studio on Apple TV, Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg show with Pete and Alex.
And there's an episode, I can't remember what number it is, that it takes place entirely at the Golden Globes.
And I think you are way ahead of us.
Fantastic. And Adam Scott, I say that because Adam Scott
features prominently.
I cannot wait.
I love the episode with the missing reel
where they're going around like a detective story.
And the camera work on that is.
It's great.
Seth has been posting all these clips online
of how they do some of these shots.
Oh, that's cool.
Like that drone shot in the beginning of that one episode
that flies over the building.
The parking structure,
where that ends at the parking structure, great.
It's so good.
Anyway, check out the studio.
And also, by the way, maybe, Seth, maybe Adam,
maybe we do a real superstar episode on May 21st at Largo.
We're doing a, how did this get made in Friends?
So Jason, myself, and a question mark.
We don't know who it will be,
but that will be at Largo May 21st.
It's gonna be like the Masked Singer.
Yes.
The guest will be dressed as a question mark.
And you've got to guess who it is.
There'll be the voice modulation, the whole deal.
The whole thing is gonna be there.
Now, anyway, next week on this show,
what you're gonna get is,
if you love Craving the Hunters muscular abs,
then brace yourself for two times
the amount of shirtless abdominals,
because next week we are watching
the 1992 buddy cop film, Double Trouble.
Oh man, I'm so excited about these guys.
This was an incredible surprise to me.
Peter Paul and David Paul, where have you been?
These are my Paul brothers.
And by the way, Scott, make a mental note of this.
We have to do their other films.
They have two other films, one where they're nannies and one where they're in like, it's like a Conan movie. I want to do them all.
Anyway, a short breakdown of the plot is a criminal and a cop who also happen to be twin
brothers must put aside their differences to work together to take down a jewel smuggling ring. Now,
there are zero reviews of Double Trouble on Rotten Tomatoes, which is a crime. Uh, so we'll turn to Letterboxd and Justin DeCloy,
who writes,
I watched this film hoping to witness two muscle-bound doofuses
bickering with each other, lifting heavy things
and making jokes about being twins,
while the goofiest comedy music played throughout.
And yes, this satisfied all those requirements.
True. It's got all that.
I love it all.
Yeah, this one was fun to watch. I love it. It's got all that. I love it all. Yeah. This one was fun to watch.
I love it.
Let's do the trailer.
When David Jade became a cop, he was ready for the danger.
Ready for the violence.
The only thing he wasn't ready for was his twin brother.
You got all the bad chromosomes, not me.
Come on, man.
This isn't funny.
OK, you can stream Double Trouble on Amazon Prime, Fubu, TV, MGM Plus, and Filo.
Now, this is usually when I'll tell you to check out your local libraries,
free digital media services like Koopla, Libby, and Canopy. But instead, I want to play one last phone call that we
received in our voicemail line this week from our friend in DC.
Hi Paul, I'm a federal archivist in Washington DC and I wanted to bring your attention to
something affecting libraries across the country. One of the agencies completely gutted in the
Doge attacks and cuts on the humanities and public access to credible sources is IMLS,
the Institute for Museum and Library Services.
You can read more about how the whole staff has been put on leave and how grants have
been terminated across the country and all the major news sources, but I'm not sure people
understand how much of their local library funding might come from these grants distributed
by this incredible agency.
Most state budgets are also reducing funding for public libraries.
For many library services, systems,
digital services like Hoopla and Libby
have been the first on the chopping blocks.
So unfortunately, this means less HDTGM movies available,
which is a tragedy, but it's also unfortunately
cutting off a lifeline for homebound and senior folks.
The cuts to public service have been
horrific across the board,
but I thought this might be something you could speak out on in particular.
And please come back and see us again in DC if we really need your cheer in these dark times.
Thank you so much.
Oh, wow.
This is, I mean, what more to say than this is such-
Heartbreaking.
Heartbreaking. And because the libraries are, and we love our librarians, we love,
I mean, I went to this amazing event in a library outside of Austin.
I had such an amazing time.
What libraries do for communities and for people are so important.
And if you want to help, because things are at stake, it's not just, this is like stuff
that's going to affect so many people.
You can write members of Congress.
We're going to put a link in this episode on the show notes.
You can basically, you know, they give you a script, they give you a template
letter to write to make it as easy as possible just to reach out to tell people
you want your libraries.
Uh, and the site also a link to the American library association pages where
you can sign a petition and share your library stories that they can use in
their advocacy campaign.
I love our libraries.
Reach out to your local libraries and see what they need or what's going on.
You know, there's, there's a lot going on locally,
I feel like for your library.
And if you are in Boise,
remember your library has an exclamation point
at the end of it, library.
Library.
So anyway, let's help our librarians.
Let's help our libraries.
We need to keep information open,
but more importantly, we need to have public spaces
where people can go.
And I think that's one of the things I've learned so much
with the release of my book and talking to librarians
is like, libraries are a community center
for internet access for, I mean, look,
I was walking around in the library
and people were just watching Instagram videos.
I'm like, this is great, right?
It's a-
No, and you need, and like the caller says,
you know, like, if you are a fan of this show,
so much of what we cover,
so many of the movies are available through your library,
through these portals that the library is subscribed to.
You can get eBooks, you can get audio books.
I get audio books from the library
and that's a great way to listen to audio books.
You know?
Yeah, my Libby app is amazing.
Anyway, support your libraries
and get ready for double trouble next week.
Jason, thank you for joining me.
Disconnect the discord, right?
Disconnect the discord.