How Did This Get Made? - Last Looks: Kraven the Hunter [Jason Edition]

Episode Date: April 25, 2025

Jason is back to help Paul respond to your corrections & omissions on Kraven the Hunter and continues his mission to disconnect the discord! They chat about Sylvester Stallone's writing credit on Jaso...n Statham's A Working Man, Sony's Spider-Man Universe plans, and if an old Kraven the Hunter comic book actually started the MeToo movement. Plus, they share a bonus deleted scene from our Kraven the Hunter live show and announce next week's new movie.  Help save the Institute of Museum & Library Services at: www.artsworkersunited.com/take-action-save-the-imlsSubmit your Last Looks theme song to us here  Get tix for our May 9th Toronto show at hdtgm.comHave a correction or omission for Last Looks? Call 619-PAULASK to leave us a voicemail!Buy HDTGM merch at howdidthisgetmade.dashery.com/Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of TraumaJoin the HDTGM conversation on Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmShop our new hat collection at podswag.comPaul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheerPaul’s YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheerFollow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheerSubscribe to Enter The Dark Web w/ Paul and Rob Huebel: youtube.com/@enterthedarkwebListen to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson: unspooledpodcast.comListen to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael: thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcastInstagram: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & @junedianeTwitter: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & msjunediane  Jason is not on social mediaEpisode transcripts available at how-did-this-get-made.simplecast.com/episodesGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Muscle-Bound Hunks, Craven Leads the Me Too Movement, and we are joined by Jason Manzoukas, all this and more on today's Last Look. Wait, I'm here too? Hit the theme! I just take a last look There's just so many ways to say that movies suck And it keeps up They're always fucked Can't explain my book, my eyes are tearing up And I'm nearly stuck
Starting point is 00:00:41 I've got a movie that bops Until he ends none of his movies, next stop Hello all my Tony Bennett and John Goodman impersonators. It's me, Paul Scheer, and today I am joined by Mr. Jason Manzoukis. Jason, how's it going? Well, well, well. Here we go. Back in action. Can you believe it?
Starting point is 00:01:04 I cannot. I'm excited that we are joining together to look through last looks because we got a lot of big stuff today. I also just want to call out that the Toronto show is almost sold out. I'm excited for people to go and the people have been asking,
Starting point is 00:01:19 what movie are you doing? And since it's been a long time, Toronto, we wanted to bring you something good. We are doing the musical with Sylvester Stallone called Oscar. What movie are you doing? And since it's been a long time, Toronto, we wanted to bring you something good. We are doing the musical with Sylvester Stallone called Oscar. Wait, he's done multiple, we did one with Dolly Parton. I think Molly said earlier, it's not actually a musical.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Yeah, it's a screwball, not a musical. Oh, screwball. Okay, well, look, here's the thing. Screwball, musical. Whew, okay. You saw me just have a panic attack. Well, the idea that I would have to endure another Sylvester Stallone singing movie also Paul, how aware are you?
Starting point is 00:01:55 I'm curious of the fact that Sylvester Stallone wrote the movie, A Working Man. The new Jason Statham, David Ayer movie is scripted by Sylvester Stallone. Okay, well I've been saving that movie because I've been like, I wanna watch it either for the show or really enjoy it. Holy shit. Here's what I'm gonna say.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Here's what I felt similarly. And granted, take this with a grain of salt, I've only watched the first hour. It is not the joyous Jason Statham Beekeeper vibes that we want, I'm afraid. It is, it feels a lot more, let's say, Stallonian. Well, by the way, here's what I think is going on. We talked about this, which everybody on the podcast
Starting point is 00:02:43 will hear in a couple of weeks, but in the Expendables movie, I feel like Stallone has a bunch of scripts that are just floating around and when he doesn't do one, he kind of throws them out to somebody else. And this felt like, wow, I love that he is. I mean, the fact that Stallone has not gotten a writing credit on Tulsa King is surprising. I mean, I'm shocked. I'm shocked. He's not in those rooms. I mean, but... I'm shocked. I'm shocked he's not in those rooms. I mean, he loves to put his name on stuff. We talked about this during Cobra.
Starting point is 00:03:08 He put his name on the book that Cobra... Yes, the book that the movie is based on, he wanted to re-release the book with his name as the author. Oh, my gosh. Well, this... Incredible stuff. This is a moment in time, this Oscar movie, where Stallone is trying to be like Schwarzenegger, do comedies, and he did like a gangster comedy.
Starting point is 00:03:28 I remember this as something that was released, that I did not go and see. Same, same, I remember it, you know, the VHS box is ubiquitous, because it was a big movie, a failure, but a big movie nonetheless, because it was a Stallone movie. So, and in those years that was something to be,
Starting point is 00:03:50 you know, celebrated, but boy, I was not interested. And now, by the way, the fun thing about Toronto is we decided since we were going all the way out there, we would do a little dinosaur show the night before. Small, bespoke, intimate rooms, no microphones with a great cast, Lennon Parham, Lisa Gilroy, they're joining us as well as Seth Morris and Chad Carter in Toronto.
Starting point is 00:04:14 That is gonna be fun. That's a night before that is on Thursday. Come see us do improv in a small setting. It is a great show, great people, and it's gonna crush. Toronto, you've never seen comedy before, right? Second City, question mark? How about Dinosaur Improv Toronto? At Second City, so you'll get-
Starting point is 00:04:33 Oh wait, it's at Second City. Oh, okay, just kidding, love Second City, big fan. But then after that, we're gonna head right over to Chicago, back at the Den. Again, smaller venue than what we've been doing with the same cast plus Owen Burke for a couple shows there. So you can get tickets at HDTGM.com,
Starting point is 00:04:53 but these shows will sell out quick because they are smaller, but I'm excited to go back to Chicago. I love that room. The Den is awesome. Great room. We had great shows there last year. Excited to go back, excited to walk around Chicago,
Starting point is 00:05:04 eat some good food, hang out with all the meats. I can't wait. All the meats of Chicago. Oh, and by the way, the thing that is important to mention is that June will be with us in Toronto. So- Oh yeah. That's exciting.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Oh yeah. A very exciting time. So lest you think that June has, we've lost June completely, nope, she's back in, she's gonna be watching these terrible movies. And you know, I will say, I'll miss Sinclair. I'll miss that chaotic screaming entity beside me on stage, but it will be great to have June back. But here's the thing, people don't even know what they're getting with Sinclair because they only heard the first episode, Craven the Hunter, which we're going to talk about
Starting point is 00:05:43 in this episode. Which we had June 4 as well. Exactly, so we got, you've only just seen the tip of the iceberg. Jessica descends into insanity as the shows go on. Oh, by the end of the tour, yeah, St. Claire was nearly hospitalized. She was almost institutionalized.
Starting point is 00:06:02 We almost had to 5150 her. By the way, we always ask you to submit a tagline for the movies that we do. And so here is a tagline from Ghost Bag, Craven the Hunter. He was in equatorial Africa with my dad when he was hunting lions right before he died. Love it. Little Madam Web, it's longer. I like a punchier one, but I like that we went back there.
Starting point is 00:06:26 And it's a call, but you really have to know the Sony Spider-Man villain-iverse. But yes. I love it all. All right, so thank you Ghost Bag for that tagline. Remember, if you have an alt movie tagline title, submit it to us on our Discord, and we may read it on the show.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Now, Jason, like I said, we are gonna get into corrections and omissions in just a bit. Oh, I can't. You're telling me that people have corrections on our comic book based movie knowledge? Oh, they're gonna come at us hot. I wanna also give a thanks to Chris Chaney
Starting point is 00:06:56 for that opening theme. And I gotta say one more thing, Jason, people are getting very excited about Taskmaster. I keep on seeing more and more promo. See you out there May 1st, right? Or May 4th, is it? May 1st, so it'll air May 1st on Channel 4 in the UK and then it will air May 2nd on YouTube and everywhere else.
Starting point is 00:07:18 So it'll be up, the new episodes will be up week to week starting May 2nd on YouTube. So go to YouTube right now, go to the Taskmaster page and subscribe. I've already seen some clips of you on stage now. There's like little moments. It looks great. You look so good up there.
Starting point is 00:07:34 It's so crazy to see footage of me on the Taskmaster stage. It seems strange to me. I am legitimate. This is the event of the year. And I was telling you before we started recording, my kids started watching the good place, uh, and they were very pleasantly surprised to see Derek. And now I believe I'm going to blow their mind when, uh, when,
Starting point is 00:07:55 when they see taskmaster now, the only benefit of the good place was. We've been burning through it. They've been loving it. Uh, but they turned to June after watching a couple seasons and they're like, mom, why aren't you in this show? June's like, I don't know, but I was in Parks and Rec and they're like, what? We don't care.
Starting point is 00:08:16 We only- Yeah, they don't want it. But it is so funny when my kids are watching this stuff because they're like, do you know Janet? And every now and then my son, who I love so much, but sometimes we'll say the dumbest things, he goes, I go, yeah, I know Janet. And he goes, do you know bad Janet?
Starting point is 00:08:32 I'm like, they're the same person. I would love it. That's such a funny thing that your kids have, like they have another element or level that you might know the people that are on the TV shows. Oh, yeah. What a strange thing.
Starting point is 00:08:48 And I remember my nieces when they were younger, when they were probably closer to your kids' age, were similarly asking me questions about something I had done and do I know this person and do I know that person. And they were all people that I knew. And I was like, oh, yeah, I know that person. I can't remember. And then she thought for a second, my niece thought for a second and then said, do you know Reba?
Starting point is 00:09:09 And I was like, Reba McEntire? She was like, yes, do you know Reba? She was probably eight years old. Oh my gosh. And turns out they had discovered the TV show Reba in reruns and were obsessed with it. And I was like, I felt so, it felt so cool to be like, oh yeah, I do know that person.
Starting point is 00:09:28 For them to be so excited about Reba and to have to admit I do not know Reba, they were palpably disappointed. Well, this is the thing is like, they will always pull out something truly crazy, but I did have a weird interaction with my, I'm just saying like a third cousin, wonderful kid, younger kid. And he's like, you're in that movie with Jennifer Garner, right?
Starting point is 00:09:50 And I was like, yeah. Yeah. And he's like, is she nice? I'm like, she's the best, the coolest, like literally a fun as hell person. And I'm telling him that. And he goes, you think, uh, you could ask her if you'd ever go on a date with me. I was like, Oh, no, I can't. Maybe we could just hang out with her if I ever come out there.
Starting point is 00:10:10 Like, oh, I don't, I like it. It was so sweet. But also he's got a crush on Jennifer Garner. And what I love about it too is Jennifer Garner from 2025. He's like a 13 year old. Like he's not like he didn't see 13 going on 30 or alias. Like he's just like a 13 year old. Like, he's not like... He didn't see 13 going on 30. Or alias. Like, he's just like, I like that. I would like to, I would like to meet her
Starting point is 00:10:30 and see if I could strike up something. The sweetest thing. And it was hard for me to come down. Anyway, we'll be right back after this quick break. Wait, but do you think she'd go on a date? Well, I mean, I'll try to, I'll DM her. We'll see what she says. We'll be right back after this.
Starting point is 00:10:46 How did this go big? How did this go big? Welcome back. Last week we talked at length about Craven the Hunter. We had questions. You have answers. You might've even wanted to take a moment to say, Paul, Jason, Jessica, June, you're wrong.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Here's your chance to do it all. It's now time for Corrections and Omissions. All right. Thank you Bionic Limbs for that theme song. Here we go. Sean McBee writes, all right, Jason, it gets me nervous to do this in front of you because these are always so weirdly worded. I can't, by the way, I can't believe you do this.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Oh. I can't believe you entertain this nonsense. I love it. I love our Discord. From these lunatics. All right, so. Disconnect the Discord. Sean McBee really does bring, by the way, that shirt is selling.
Starting point is 00:11:42 There is a little cartoon of you unplugging a computer. It's pretty great. Uh, Sean McBee writes, if the point of these Sony movies is to build up a Spider-Man universe so they can all jump straight into action with a bunch of established villains and supporting characters, when Sony regains the rights to use Spider-Man, then why introduce Rhino just to kill him off?
Starting point is 00:12:01 He's a major Spider-Man villain that is dead before Spider-Man even gets a chance to fight him. I'm beginning to think that Sony has no idea of what they are doing. Well, I mean, yeah, right? I mean, yes, clearly. I mean, they are as evidenced by each of these movies and their incoherence. I don't think they have much of a plan. Sean McBee. I don't think that Spider-Man is ever coming back to Sony. I think that that, I mean, technically, that could be a door that opens, but it's just,
Starting point is 00:12:30 it doesn't feel like that's ever gonna happen. I think the idea is that there's... It's clearly what they want, you know? Like, I think Sony keeps thinking, oh, great, now that Marvel has done us a solid and established this character, we can now pull him back. I remember a couple of years ago, they were saying after the last Spider-Man
Starting point is 00:12:51 where Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield showed up that perhaps one of them would keep going forward while Tom Holland dipped in, was pulled back into the Sony-verse And there was some, some drama around that. Right. There's a whole thing. I mean, here's the thing. I feel like they are not really trying to build a universe as much as build a
Starting point is 00:13:16 bunch of movies that are loosely connected on theme, right? Because they're not even in the same, I mean, I guess they're in the same world. I think they are. I think they, I think there are people at Sony who, and I'm certain not by the time they got to Craven, who I believe were trying to set up basically the Sinister Six or some version of that they could then drop Spider-Man into and be like, okay, now Spider-Man is inside of a world of his villains. Okay, terrific.
Starting point is 00:13:42 There was a great Sony script that had the Sinister Six in it, and it was, I mean, but again, that's a weird thing. It's almost like better if Sony just keeps on shuttling stuff over to Marvel and make a good movie like that. Make us stand alone. Absolutely, I also think that Sony has shown over and over again that they don't truly understand,
Starting point is 00:13:59 with the exception of Venom, what these stories should be about. Well, I'll argue that the reason why Venom works in a weird way is because it really became like a creator-driven thing. It's a Tom Hardy. An auteur-driven movie. It really is.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Sadly, Tom Hardy is the auteur who's absolutely out of his mind and I love it. Do you wanna read this next one? This is from Hangnong Man. Okay? This is from Hangnong Man. Okay, this is from Hangnong Man. Jason joked about the White Lotus brothers in this episode, and it turns out Craven actually does have a White Lotus connection. Alessandro Nivola, aka the Rhino, is the father of Sam Nivola, aka the White Lotus younger brother, Lachlan Ratliff. Now that's what I call capital S synergy.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Okay, Hangnong Man. Now, that's what I call capital S synergy. BROCKETT LAUGHS Okay, hey, Nong Man. Uh, first of all, capital S, why synergy? Is it a proper name? Is it a noun? Why capital S synergy? Okay, and yes, this is a classic disconnect the Discord question. I don't need to be, this is just, this is information.
Starting point is 00:15:01 This is not... It has nothing to do with the joke. It's got a real gotcha. You know, it's got, ha ha, did you know this- Right, it has nothing to do with the joke. It's got a real gotcha. You know, it's got, ha ha, did you know this? Yeah, yeah, well we know that Sam Navola is the child of Alessandra Navola and the actress Emily Mortimer, one of the true greats.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Love her. And I thought the kid was great. I thought all the Nepo babies were great in White Lotus. I thought Schwarzenegger was fantastic. I gotta watch, I've never seen it. Never seen a single episode. It's so fun. I gotta get into it.
Starting point is 00:15:29 You will enjoy it as a, here's what I'll say, sometimes the monocultural show can feel at times like a weight. Yes. You know, like, ugh, I gotta watch this intense, like adolescence feels like that to me right now. And I have not watched it yet because I'm like, okay, I know this is watch this intense, like adolescence feels like that to me right now. And I have not watched it yet because I'm like,
Starting point is 00:15:47 okay, I know this is gonna be intense and difficult. It's gonna be incredible and a feat of production to do these wonders and that's cool, but I know the subject matter is tough. But the White Lotus, the opposite. It is, it's breezy, baby. It's fun as hell. I love it. All right, so let's go to the phones. Jesse, what do you got? Hi, Paul and folks, the opposite. It is a, it's breezy, baby. It's fun as hell. I love it.
Starting point is 00:16:05 All right. So let's go to the phones. Jesse, what do you got? Hi, Paul and folks, Jesse here. I love the Craven episode, but there's an omission from the comics. I wish y'all had brought up. And that's that period in the book when the original Craven was dead and his son took over and then became a movie producer.
Starting point is 00:16:20 And they did a whole get shorty-esque parody and a story where Craven hung out with Jay Leno. It was during the early 2000s written by the late Ron Zimmerman, I think. I think that would have made it for a better movie. Thanks, bye. Whoa, first of all. That's funny.
Starting point is 00:16:34 I'm gonna get, it's called Get Craven? Get Craven, yeah. Oh wow. Oh wow. I don't know this book. I may have to get that. Funny, yeah. I like this, all right, great. Now that's information that I like just because I'm like, okay, I'm on board with that. And also this. All right, great. That's information that I like just because I'm like, okay, I'm on board with that. And also you left it in a great way, Jesse.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Well, it's also like that to me isn't like, you idiots, you didn't say the thing. It's like, hey, you talked about this. Maybe you'd also like this thing. I love a recommendation. That's a good one. Fun as hell. I did a little research on that book.
Starting point is 00:17:02 It's kind of universally accepted as being terrible, but an interesting thing is- So you're saying our fans have absolute knowledge of terrible comics runs as well as terrible movies? Who would've thought? But the interesting thing is it has two movie executive brothers called the Rothsteins that are clearly takeoffs of the Weinsteins,
Starting point is 00:17:23 and in the book they were called out for kind of being like piece of shit rapists way back in 2002, like before any of it came out public. So I don't know. Get Craven. Craven is really leading, led the Me Too movement in a way. I mean. Yep. Craven.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Yeah. That's where it all started with Craven. All right. Kate from Austin, what do you got? Hey, this is Kate from Austin, not the one from White Lotus. I was just at your Austin, Texas show, and I just wanted to touch on the Rhino Does This Shriek, and I really thought y'all were going to talk about it, and you didn't, and I would just love to hear what you have
Starting point is 00:18:05 To say about that huge huge choice. Thank you guys for coming to Texas. Have a good night Well, I mean look this is something that I was bummed that we did not play the Shriek. Let's hear the oh, yeah I don't remember it here. You'll love it the crap enough hit failed All of our guys are dead. Huh. Yeah. Choice. Yeah, I guess I kind of remember that. Yeah, that's fun.
Starting point is 00:18:36 We should have played that. That's fun. He does also has another like, like at the end right before he gets killed. Like he, I like that he's vocalizing like an animal, in a way. Yeah, I like that too. You know, like I feel like, I feel like Neville is doing as much as he can with a character who unfortunately spends very little time
Starting point is 00:18:55 in his scary monstrous form as the Rhino. And for the most part looks like a tech bro in a backpack. You know? Yes. So where he can be weird, I enjoy him being weird. I think the movie, it's a bummer because it's just hard. It's hard to, I think it's hard to find your angle in, in a movie like this where he has to not be the villain
Starting point is 00:19:19 for the majority of the film. I mean, that's the thing. He's gotta be, like you you said the tech bro who is not It doesn't even seem like there's nothing even fun with that Like I'd love to see him like a more of a Steve Jobs guy. He's just he's an he's an angry tech, bro And then he's like a angry Rhino. It's a hard. There's not enough variation. I don't play. I agree complete I agree completely. It's just a none of it works. Uh, let's do one more phone call here. What do we got here? Hey Paul, maybe Jason.
Starting point is 00:19:45 I just finished the Craven Hunter episode. One thing I noticed when I was watching it, I don't know if I'm crazy or not, but it definitely seems like they had the CGI mouths on some of the characters. Like maybe they changed some lines and they put the CGI mouths that looks like they were about to float off.
Starting point is 00:20:01 It was most noticeable in the scene when they're at the sexless nature cabin, talking to Calypso, and it looks like Calypso are about to float off. It was most noticeable in the scene when they're at the sexless nature cabin, talking to Calypso, and it looks like her lips are about to like just come off her face. Let me know what you think. Great, love the show, bye. Okay, let's see. Exactly, look at what you became.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Oh yeah. Yeah, big time. Look at what you became. So that's really interesting. So this is a big AI thing right now. Yeah, big time. Look at what you became. So that's really interesting. Yeah, it's bad. So this is a big AI thing right now. So one of the uses for AI that they're talking about coming in and using pinpoint AI stuff is to go in and change the mouth shapes for shows that are, like say you want to watch
Starting point is 00:20:43 Dark, the German show Dark, and you're like, oh, but I don't wanna watch the clunky dub of it and I don't wanna watch it in German, there are now going to be AI filters that will make the mouth shapes match whatever language is being used in the show. So I think this is an early attempt at something. I don't know that this was AI to be clear,
Starting point is 00:21:02 but that's what they're trying to do is change mouth shapes. Well, here's what I'll say too. I know for a fact, I won't name the person, very famous person, very hands-on author, not Tom Hardy, who- Is it alone? Yes, no, who will in editing have a green screen set up and they will literally get, uh, that person's mouth to pop it in.
Starting point is 00:21:28 It's like, you know, so it couldn't even be that person's mouth. It's an odd, that does look weird. Oh yeah. That one looks very weird, but yeah, like unnerving. The other one that I thought was really. Of setting. And this is different, but that remember that show, different world, the spin-off of the Cosby show.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Sure. yeah. They AI upgraded it for Netflix, and to make the resolution higher, because they have to make the resolution better. And if you look at any of the writing on the wall, it's all that weird AI, because they can't write text the right way, it's bonkers.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Oh, weird. Yeah, so if you look at a different world in whatever resolution is on Netflix, you can see how weird the 4K AI upressing is. It's really, really weird. Yeah, all right. All right, back to the Discord. Sean McBee writes.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Back to the Discord? Yeah, we gotta go back. I felt so good being away from it. I know, for a second we had some voicemail. And now I'm plunged back into the cesspool that is the Discord? Yeah, we gotta go back. I felt so good being away from it. I know, for a second we had some voiceover. And now I'm plunged back into the cesspool that is the Discord? Well, Sean's gonna give us some more villain gripes. While I understand Sony was setting up Chameleon
Starting point is 00:22:34 for a role in a future movie, I found it super irritating that his mimicry was established multiple times throughout the movie but never paid off in the course of the story. It was clearly there just to establish another villain, which feels cheap. If his mimicry had come into play at the end to facilitate even something as simple as deceiving a
Starting point is 00:22:49 henchman, it would have been so much more rewarding. Yeah, I agree. I agree with that. I think that that is an interesting, weird choice because he is singing Tony Bennett and I don't even want to get into the Tony Bennett. I'm not. Wow.
Starting point is 00:23:00 People have been like, I thought I could figure it out and I'm lost. Like I've seen so many comments. People were lost by that. Yeah, so good point. Again, good point. Yeah, good point. I mean, I think you're pointing out a larger problem
Starting point is 00:23:13 which is that the story doesn't really add up, you know? But that character is the chameleon. He is Craven's brother. So having him there made sense. It just was, yeah, why not use it? I mean, there we go. Did you want to, do you even want to read one more in here? What do you think? It says Jason, you want to read one more?
Starting point is 00:23:30 No, I don't, but I guess I have to. Um, okay. So this is from I fed, A Y E F E D. When the rhino first reveals that he signed up for scientific study to increase strength, he reveals that his skin became tough and gray as an adverse reaction. But did anyone notice the, all caps, fucking rhino horns on the top of his head? How does even the most poorly administered and dangerous scientific study not only mess with his skin, but also give him rhinoceros horns?
Starting point is 00:24:06 I couldn't stop laughing out loud. It was like a child invented the character and the backstory. Also, does that mean there are hundreds of other people out there that also took the study and now have rhinoceros parts? Question mark exclamation point. Well, now this I like only because that's how they didn't kill off the rhino. We just met one Rhino, I think. Yeah. Yeah. And I also think, much in the same way that comics, nobody ever really dies. I think if they were to have a movie and this Rhino came back, they would, no problem.
Starting point is 00:24:36 That's fine. Like, I don't think anybody ever really dies in comic book movies. The same way that they don't really die in comic books themselves. Anyway, my guess to this writer is that I suspect he noticed the rhinoceros horns, to be clear, and my suspicion is that the scientist was using rhinoceros DNA or something because they have such hard skin in an effort to increase the strength and then the rest of it came along with it.
Starting point is 00:25:04 That's why. I can tell you, yeah, the scientists on this movie, that was the only thing that was really done on the level. This is true, like that would actually happen. So I just want everybody to know, like don't question the science. All the science checks out. The science checks out. We checked it.
Starting point is 00:25:14 We checked it, the science checks out. Now, Jason, I know that you wouldn't want to even reward people for writing in their comments. I'd rather they wouldn't. Yeah, well, this helps everybody get through the weeks here. If you had to pick a winner though, who do you think came in hottest here? I know who the loser is, it's you and I.
Starting point is 00:25:31 It's you and me. Ah! Um, I don't know who the winner is. What are we talking about? I mean, I would say Jesse to me. Jesse from the, who gave us the comics run. Yeah. I like someone who's giving a recommendation, an earnest recommendation, for what I'm now told is us the comics run. Yeah. I like someone who's giving a recommendation,
Starting point is 00:25:45 an earnest recommendation for what I'm now told is a terrible comics run. Ha ha ha. You get this amazing song from Seth Chatfield. Hit it, Seth. Rose to the top to defeat all the others. You really honored your father and mother. You brought it all and you went all in.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Guess what buddy, you win nothing. Now, by the way, there's a new way to submit songs. It's on the HDTGM.com website. Go there, submit your songs there. You just drop it in the drop box. Easy peasy, done, keep them short. All right, remember, if you wanna chime in with your thoughts, and remember,
Starting point is 00:26:25 you know, they have to hold up to Jason's, you know. Scrutiny. Yeah, exactly. You could do it at discord.gg slash HDTGM or call us at 619-P-A-U-L-A-S-K, that's 619-Paul-Ask. Okay, coming up after the break, Jason and I will announce next week's movie, but first take a listen to this bonus second opinion song from our Crave and the Hunter live show.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Now it's time for second opinions. Hello, I'm Jamie. You can turn around if you want to face the crowd rather than us. This means a lot to me. You guys are hilarious and beautiful and amazing and please run for office ASAP. These ones. You guys can, it's optional, but ideally the middle.
Starting point is 00:27:12 No, no, I get you. Okay. I've been told I'm unelectable. But if you grow out that hair. Get that haircut. Oh yeah, wax me down and I'm good to go. He's got the blood of a lion or a vampire. Is this just Twilight? Cause he hunts like Edward.
Starting point is 00:27:35 But he's really bad at parkour. Falling off by buildings are lions immortal. Why doesn't he ever roar? I'm just gonna give five stars. Woo! Amazing! Way to go Texas! Thank you so much! Call your representatives please. Alright, if you're looking for a companion piece, if you need a little extra, how did this get made?
Starting point is 00:27:57 Every Tuesday we re-release all the songs that we release. All right. If you're looking for a companion piece, if you need a little extra, how did this get made every Tuesday, we re-release old episodes. This week's matinee was tough turf with James Spader and next week will be return of Xander Cage with Adam Scott. We got to get Adam Scott back on. We got a fantastic, one of my favorite episodes of TV this year is the Golden Globes episode of the studio. I haven't seen that one yet. Seth and Evans show the studio on Apple TV, Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg show with Pete and Alex.
Starting point is 00:28:36 And there's an episode, I can't remember what number it is, that it takes place entirely at the Golden Globes. And I think you are way ahead of us. Fantastic. And Adam Scott, I say that because Adam Scott features prominently. I cannot wait. I love the episode with the missing reel where they're going around like a detective story. And the camera work on that is.
Starting point is 00:28:56 It's great. Seth has been posting all these clips online of how they do some of these shots. Oh, that's cool. Like that drone shot in the beginning of that one episode that flies over the building. The parking structure, where that ends at the parking structure, great.
Starting point is 00:29:08 It's so good. Anyway, check out the studio. And also, by the way, maybe, Seth, maybe Adam, maybe we do a real superstar episode on May 21st at Largo. We're doing a, how did this get made in Friends? So Jason, myself, and a question mark. We don't know who it will be, but that will be at Largo May 21st.
Starting point is 00:29:25 It's gonna be like the Masked Singer. Yes. The guest will be dressed as a question mark. And you've got to guess who it is. There'll be the voice modulation, the whole deal. The whole thing is gonna be there. Now, anyway, next week on this show, what you're gonna get is,
Starting point is 00:29:39 if you love Craving the Hunters muscular abs, then brace yourself for two times the amount of shirtless abdominals, because next week we are watching the 1992 buddy cop film, Double Trouble. Oh man, I'm so excited about these guys. This was an incredible surprise to me. Peter Paul and David Paul, where have you been?
Starting point is 00:29:57 These are my Paul brothers. And by the way, Scott, make a mental note of this. We have to do their other films. They have two other films, one where they're nannies and one where they're in like, it's like a Conan movie. I want to do them all. Anyway, a short breakdown of the plot is a criminal and a cop who also happen to be twin brothers must put aside their differences to work together to take down a jewel smuggling ring. Now, there are zero reviews of Double Trouble on Rotten Tomatoes, which is a crime. Uh, so we'll turn to Letterboxd and Justin DeCloy, who writes,
Starting point is 00:30:29 I watched this film hoping to witness two muscle-bound doofuses bickering with each other, lifting heavy things and making jokes about being twins, while the goofiest comedy music played throughout. And yes, this satisfied all those requirements. True. It's got all that. I love it all. Yeah, this one was fun to watch. I love it. It's got all that. I love it all. Yeah. This one was fun to watch.
Starting point is 00:30:46 I love it. Let's do the trailer. When David Jade became a cop, he was ready for the danger. Ready for the violence. The only thing he wasn't ready for was his twin brother. You got all the bad chromosomes, not me. Come on, man. This isn't funny.
Starting point is 00:31:14 OK, you can stream Double Trouble on Amazon Prime, Fubu, TV, MGM Plus, and Filo. Now, this is usually when I'll tell you to check out your local libraries, free digital media services like Koopla, Libby, and Canopy. But instead, I want to play one last phone call that we received in our voicemail line this week from our friend in DC. Hi Paul, I'm a federal archivist in Washington DC and I wanted to bring your attention to something affecting libraries across the country. One of the agencies completely gutted in the Doge attacks and cuts on the humanities and public access to credible sources is IMLS, the Institute for Museum and Library Services.
Starting point is 00:31:48 You can read more about how the whole staff has been put on leave and how grants have been terminated across the country and all the major news sources, but I'm not sure people understand how much of their local library funding might come from these grants distributed by this incredible agency. Most state budgets are also reducing funding for public libraries. For many library services, systems, digital services like Hoopla and Libby have been the first on the chopping blocks.
Starting point is 00:32:12 So unfortunately, this means less HDTGM movies available, which is a tragedy, but it's also unfortunately cutting off a lifeline for homebound and senior folks. The cuts to public service have been horrific across the board, but I thought this might be something you could speak out on in particular. And please come back and see us again in DC if we really need your cheer in these dark times. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Oh, wow. This is, I mean, what more to say than this is such- Heartbreaking. Heartbreaking. And because the libraries are, and we love our librarians, we love, I mean, I went to this amazing event in a library outside of Austin. I had such an amazing time. What libraries do for communities and for people are so important. And if you want to help, because things are at stake, it's not just, this is like stuff
Starting point is 00:32:57 that's going to affect so many people. You can write members of Congress. We're going to put a link in this episode on the show notes. You can basically, you know, they give you a script, they give you a template letter to write to make it as easy as possible just to reach out to tell people you want your libraries. Uh, and the site also a link to the American library association pages where you can sign a petition and share your library stories that they can use in
Starting point is 00:33:18 their advocacy campaign. I love our libraries. Reach out to your local libraries and see what they need or what's going on. You know, there's, there's a lot going on locally, I feel like for your library. And if you are in Boise, remember your library has an exclamation point at the end of it, library.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Library. So anyway, let's help our librarians. Let's help our libraries. We need to keep information open, but more importantly, we need to have public spaces where people can go. And I think that's one of the things I've learned so much with the release of my book and talking to librarians
Starting point is 00:33:47 is like, libraries are a community center for internet access for, I mean, look, I was walking around in the library and people were just watching Instagram videos. I'm like, this is great, right? It's a- No, and you need, and like the caller says, you know, like, if you are a fan of this show,
Starting point is 00:34:05 so much of what we cover, so many of the movies are available through your library, through these portals that the library is subscribed to. You can get eBooks, you can get audio books. I get audio books from the library and that's a great way to listen to audio books. You know? Yeah, my Libby app is amazing.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Anyway, support your libraries and get ready for double trouble next week. Jason, thank you for joining me. Disconnect the discord, right? Disconnect the discord.

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