How Did This Get Made? - Last Looks: Merlin: The Return

Episode Date: June 21, 2024

Jason joins Paul to test their knowledge of movie wizards when they play "The Wiz Quiz" before chatting about podcasts they're currently loving. Plus, Paul responds to your corrections and omissions from Merlin: The Return, shares a bonus scene from the Merlin live show, and announces next week's movie.  PAUL AND JASON'S PODCAST RECS:Off Menu with Ed Gamble and James AcasterAll Songs ConsideredBest Movies Never MadeWhat Went Wrong?90 Minutes or Less Film Fest HDTGM will be in Nantucket on June 20th! Go to hdtgm.com for ticket info, merch, and more.Order Paul’s book about his childhood, Joyful Recollections of Trauma, wherever books are soldFor extra Matinee Monday content, visit Paul's YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheerHDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheerFollow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer/Check out Paul and Rob Huebel live on Twitch (www.twitch.tv/friendzone) every Thursday 8-10pm ESTSubscribe to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson here: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael here: www.thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcastCheck out The Jane Club over at www.janeclub.comCheck out new HDTGM merch over at https://www.teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmWhere to find Jason, June & Paul:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on Twitter

A Madame Webb fact check that will blow your mind. When were bananas invented? And why King Arthur should have known about wheels? All this and more on today's How Did This Get Made? Last looks hit the theme! From the California accent of Jason Statham To the giant jaw of Robert Saddam We proudly present to you a universe containing five stars Proprietors of trash is what we are How did this get made? Dialogue cliched How did this get made? We're the ones that have to watch them all

They've got to watch them on a bus or a train Or the middle seat of an M-Bus They've got to watch them on a bus or a train Or the middle seat of an airplane Where people think that they are going insane Hello to all you medium moms and pint-sized girls. I'm your ageless wizard Paul Shear and welcome to how did this get made? Last looks where you the listener get to voice your issues on Merlin the return a movie that discord user Mr. Dolly Parton thinks could have also been titled bowl cuts and broomsticks. I like that

later in the show Jason will stop by to play a game and chat about all the podcasts that we are currently loving and I will also share an exclusive deleted scene from our Merlin the Return show. And as always, I'll reveal the next movie on the podcast. But first things first, a big shout out to Tom McWaters for that killer opening theme. Tom, bring in the heat. I love it. If you love these songs as much as I love these songs, but you think I can do better because that really is the American way, why don't you send a last looks theme song to how did this get made at earwolf.com, but keep them short.

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I will write it and they will send it to you for no additional fee. All right, now let's get into it. Last week we talked at length about Merlin, the return. We had questions and we might have even missed a few things. So here's your chance to set us straight. Fact check us if you will. It is now time for Corrections and Omissions. Thank you, Action Jackson 5, for probably the only theme that we've ever received to correct Copernicus and set the record straight that the earth is in fact

flat. That's right. This is now a flat earth podcast. All right. We're going to the discord GT75 writes, I want to talk about the ambush on the unusually slow truck that we see as an introduction to Arthur. Carts and wagons existed long before medieval times and a king certainly would have traveled with them in his party.

Now, Arthur certainly should have recognized that a wheeled vehicle is something man-made and not a dragon, especially when there were people in it. Well, GT75, we talked all about that. As a matter of fact, it was part of our video clip of the week. But yes, you are right, and I guess I didn't put that all together. He has seen wheels. I mean, I don't think this movie is doing that much research. I mean, look at the hairstyles.

Sean McBee writes, while it was mentioned that Merlin stayed on Earth for 1500 years without ever getting contemporary clothes, no one mentioned that he also is just going by Merlin. That's right, the entire time. And he's presumably been in this village for 1500 years. I mean, given its proximity to where Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table were awakened, it seems like this village would be aware of Merlin and the Arthurian legend. And he lives here as an immortal weirdo?

I mean, Richie's aunt is like, what, 70? She must have known Merlin her whole life and noticed that he's never aged. I mean, maybe Sean, they just think he's like a character actor. Like he works down the road at some sort of tourist attraction and maybe in the middle of the night, they swap them out for another Merlin. I don't know, but yes, you're right. I would have loved to see the movie where Richie's aunt loved the younger Merlin. I mean, it never even attempts to address it.

I mean, there's another part of this that he's been hiding out for that long, just like up there paying rent silently, but I guess we'll never know. Mitch Cappa, aka Chunk Style, writes, is it possible that the research for this episode mixed up the box office for the budget? Paul said the movie's budget was £20,000, but Wikipedia says the movie grossed £20,000 in the UK box office. I couldn't find the budget Anywhere as bad as this movie was if they made it for that little money. I think it's actually pretty amazing You know what Mitch? I'm gonna throw that over to Molly because Molly gave me that research. It makes sense Well, first of all, it doesn't make sense that this movie was ever released honestly if it's a TV movie

Well first of all, it doesn't make sense that this movie was ever released, honestly. If it's a TV movie, 20,000 pounds? We need some more fact checking here. So either Molly can chime in or one of you can do the work. But now let's go to Danimal. Jason mentioned that the actor playing Mordred is Craig Sheffer from A River Runs Through It. Now, Craig Sheffer also played Frankie in another classic, how did this get made movie, Voyage of the Rock Aliens.

So the battle between Merlin and Mordred is really a battle between Fred versus Frankie. Oh, Danimal, I love it. I love what you did there. All right, hellstorm78 writes, I can't believe that no one mentioned that Lancelot was played by Adrian Paul, TV's Highlander, that's right, Duncan McCloud,

especially with how many times he asked Arthur variations of who wants to live forever. You are all so close when you mention that he was immortal. In fact, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Lancelot is one of Duncan McCloud's many different sword wielding lives. By the way, this was a good point, Hellstorm, and it was mentioned very briefly during an audience question that we did cut from the episode.

And that's really just because, you know, we found that people don't know Highlander as much as the small niche grouping of people really know Highlander. So I'm sorry, but yes, it was in there, we cut it out. I'm sorry we didn't get down to the bottom of it, but I do believe, like you're saying, let's just make it Duncan McLeod in this world as well. Okay, let's go to the phones. Christian from Sacramento. Hey, Paul, love the show, but I wanted to bring up a correction for something that you

mentioned on Merlin the return. You and Jason said that Arthur would have picked up anything in the apartment when he woke up, but he went for the banana, which he should have recognized. But I don't think he has any idea what that banana was. Arthurian legend usually puts him around the fifth or sixth century CE, at which point scientists think bananas would have probably just been making their way to Eastern Africa. All kinds of bananas and plantains have been cultivated for thousands of years in Southeast Asia, but it wasn't until that point that they started like really migrating, at least that's what some people think. Anyways, the kind of banana he would have

seen, the ones that we typically eat, especially in the US, is called a Cavendish banana. And it didn't have widespread cultivation until the 1900s. And even then it wasn't really popular until the 50s after a disease wiped out the previous popular banana, which was called the Grosse Michel or the Big Mike. So just wanted to point out that he probably would not have known what that banana was And even if he had seen bananas from the time period he was from they wouldn't have looked like the one that he saw On that counter anyway, love the show and hope you all have a great day. What? You're dropping some banana knowledge on me. Holy cow. All right, Christian All right, you. All right. You're right. I mean, I can't dispute banana knowledge and I'm glad that you brought that to the

table because I thought this movie didn't do its research and now you're showing me it absolutely did. So thank you, Christian. Now here's something I got to tell you. We did get some calls about Merlin, but we have not stopped getting calls about Madam Webb. And I figured, yes, we are doing corrections on missions about Merlin right now, but I think it would be fun to do two quick calls about Madam Webb.

Are you into that? All right, here we go. First up, get ready for this one, by the way. This is from an anonymous caller. And it made me cry when I first heard it. So I just be prepared. Here we go. Hey, Paul. I just wanted to call and say June is right. As a foster parent of nine years, newborns and infants are spooked up immediately. We need more people willing to foster older

kids, especially nine and up. June's comment brought me to tears because I was listening to the episode after dropping off my two sons at college freshman orientation. And please let me just say, Devin and Gary, I'm so proud of you and I'm lucky to be a part of your life. Thanks. And I really hope some people hear this and know that they can be great foster parents, especially for older kids. There's nothing to be afraid of. I really appreciate that. And that's a beautiful sentiment. And thank you for that.

I mean, wow. I love that our show can go here. I love that we can get that out. So please, you know, let's make sure that we look out for foster kids as well, older foster kids, if you have the means to give older kids a home as well. I think that's beautiful. Now let's go to Devin. It's very much a change of topic here and Devin is going to blow your mind.

Devin, take it away. Hi, John, June, Jason. This is Devin. First time, long time. This is not necessarily a correction or omission, but regarding Madame Webb, I had a friend who worked on post-production for the movie. When they were almost complete with their post-production work, Sony lawyers came in and told them to halt their work because they realized that they didn't have the rights to say with great power comes great responsibility. Anyway, I think this is pretty representative of some of the backstage confusion for how this got made. Thank you. Take care. What? Oh my God, they could. Oh, all right. It all makes sense now. It was a lawyer thing.

Why would they even try to put it in there? It sounds so bad, but now at least it makes sense. Devin, I appreciate that. This is truly a gang buster day here on Corrections and Omissions. I mean, I don't even know where to go. I mean, first of all, our anonymous phone caller was so beautiful, so wonderful. I want to give them, you know, the winner of this segment and they should get the winner of this segment. But the truth is they didn't give me a name, so I can't make them a winner.

But I'm going to say this. There are so many great ones here today. And I have to say it has to go to Christian from Sacramento who dropped some banana knowledge on us. Christian, you are our winner and you get this amazing song from Rob from Long Island. Hit it! You win, but let's be clear, you don't win anything substantial or tangible, but nevertheless, you win. Thank you, Rob from Long Island, for that song. Remember, if you want to submit an alt movie title, a tagline, or anything at all, chime in with your own thoughts about the latest episode on the Discord at discord.gg slash

HDTGM or call us at 619-PAUL-ASK. That's 619-Paul-ASK. We love your phone calls. All right. Coming up after the break, Jason will join the pod to chat about podcasts we are currently loving and our producer Scott is going to test our knowledge with wizards. That's right. We're going to take a whiz quiz people.

And as always, I will announce next week's movie. But first, I want to share one last correction and omission. This is from lovely Lizette. Lovely Lizette writes, I am surprised that no one talked about the scientists having all those beautiful IMAX and other equipment at Stonehenge, but no clear source of power for it. Well, guess what lovely Lizette, we did actually talk about those colorful IMAX from the early 2000s in a scene that got cut from the episode.

I'm going to share it with you right now. Take a listen. Well, here's what's so fascinating. So I thought for a little while, I'm like, oh, this is a movie where major technology was happening in the real world, and this movie's response and fear was like, oh, who knows what technology could do?

Maybe you could go meet the Knights of the Round Table. Who knows where the internet will take us. It felt very much so like one of those movies, but now knowing, and there were IMAX in it, is that 2000? By the way, no good scientific study is doing IMAX research. They had like the candy IMAX that were popular in the early 2000s. Look at the cool candy colored ones to do this giant lightning experiment at Stonehenge. I have to say, Paul, when I saw those, I was like, I miss them. I miss them too, but they're not going to be doing heavy computing. Back then, especially,

that was a computer that you gave to old people so they could figure out email. It was like, you don't have to have any hard drives in this. It's a one-stop shop. Plug it in and you're done. Yeah, I guess it was. I will say this. The other thing that makes me feel like it's a movie from the past,

although unequivocally you're right, because of the presence of the IMAX, that does date it. So now we believe you, Paul. Now we believe you, we believe you only now only now After doing our own research. Yes But one of the things that made me feel like it was older was the true laissez-faire Attitude the parents have towards watching over the kids like it felt like those kids were free-range

Beyond they were on an adventure that was it felt like those kids were free-range beyond they were on an adventure that was It felt like Dirt bike kid wasn't that the movie another way like those movies where the kids are just off having an incredibly dangerous adventure in the know Surrender it's how we the three of us probably grew up which was like I don't think I don't think I saw my parents for An entire summer no and they were happy about it. Welcome back everybody. You know that right now, every Monday, we are releasing a old episode from the vault.

That's right. And this week's Matinee Monday was Rhinestone with special guest, Matt Jones. And next week will be Hercules with guests, Sashir Zamata and Leslie Hedlund, who created Star Wars The Acolyte. So keep on checking out these replays of classic episodes every Monday. Now, I don't know if I mentioned this with Jason because I pre-recorded my Jason conversation,

but if you are not watching The Acolyte, get on it. It's great. I'm really, really loving it. All right. Now it is time for Jason to stop by even though I just revealed that we did record it before I recorded this. Anyway, use your imagination and let Tom McWhorter's do another great job with a brand new theme to Just Chat. Tom, hit it. We're gonna have ourselves a conversation. Just chat.

No quarantine or vaccination, just chat. Paul and Jason, a couple of cats, just chat. Just chat, just chat. Shoo-bee-doo-poo-poo-poo-poo-poo. Jason, we are gonna switch things up today. Wait, what? I have TV shows to recommend, I've got comic books to recommend.

What do we do? What's this? You have to put it on the back burner because- You want me to BB this? You gotta BB it just for a little bit because I think we're gonna get a chance to talk about some of that stuff in just a bit, but our producer Scott has come up with a game

that neither of us know what it is. So this could go horribly off the rails. I mean, I don't know. I mean, you know, we are creatures of habit here. What are the prizes, Scott? What are the prizes? Oh man, whoever wins their respective- Scott's frantically looking side to side.

Frantically looking. Their respective team Fred or team Sanity will be declared correct. Oh no, that's too much. That's too high stakes. Huge, wow. I thought you were gonna give us maybe a Comedy Bang Bang 15 shirt, you know.

Those are too pricey. We'll give you a ear wolf. I want a Comedy Bang, yeah, is there some sort of ear wolf, is there any obsolete ear wolf swag? We should be giving stuff away that is leftover, that is like leftover from the old days. Oh, I think you can find some stuff. If you go to like, uh, Podswag, do you want this earwolf to-do list?

Oh my God. That's hysterical. What if I recently found an earwolf-branded pop socket in my junk drawer? Oh, that'd be a good one. Yeah, I sold it on eBay for $1,100. I'm looking here in the Podswag store. Scott, I'm kidding. I'm Scott.

Scott acted, Scott reacted with such shock that someone would have bought, Scott, get out of here. I'm sorry. Here's what I think we need, actually. Here's, I think, and maybe I'm gonna say this out loud, and I'm gonna look a fool because we have it and have had it for years. Here's, I think, and maybe I'm gonna say this out loud and I'm gonna look a fool because we have it and have had it for years.

I think we need a good, how did this get made? Maybe this is a kinship goods type thing or something like that. Sure. Baseball hat. Ooh, yeah, you know. We don't have a good, like, canvas baseball hat that is, I don't know, maybe it says Geostorm,

maybe it says just HDTGM, or maybe it's branded some other, you know, element. I know, HDTGM, like baseball logo, kind of like, you know, the swoosh down. Could be cool. Could be cool. I'm down with something like that, because I mean, I look, as a bald man, I'm always wearing different kinds of hats, you know,

and I- I feel like a hat is one of the pieces of swag from like, I've got a doughboy've got a Doughboyz baseball hat. Like that's the thing that I enjoy a baseball hat from the thing, the bands or the podcast that I like. I mean, personally, if we could make an appeal to the 47 brand, which is what I think is a great- What is that?

Is that like a, they do sports teams? They do a lot of sports teams, but they also have some fun- That's what they're called, right? Sports teams? Sports teams. That sounded cool, right? They do some interesting collections.

I think that we should get 47 to make a podcast headwear collection. Great, I mean, let's do it. I will say the ones on Kinship Goods are good from, they do Dough Boys, they do Action Boys. Oh yeah, Action Boys stuff looks great. I was hanging out with Gabris all last week. Oh nice, oh right, on your show.

Should I be saying that or is that? You could say, yeah, it's not officially announced, but I think we can say it because Gabris is the best and man oh man, he's got a lot of merch and it looks good, every one of it. Oh, their stuff is great looking. By the way, Jason, you know, I don't know if I told you this whole thing,

but I got to hang out with Adam Savage in his In his workshop. Tested workshop. Oh, I knew you were going to see him. And boy, I've never been jealous having just watched like a 20 minute video of him building new cabinets for his drawers, new drawer cabinets for his like German catch-all

like stuff drawers, I was incredibly compelled. Well, first of all, as a fan of Tested, looking around, being in there, it was like being on set, and he's lit it so well that he's got these overhead lights all run by like a, you know, this iPad, so he can kind of set up any area to be ready for making videos, which is so cool. And I got to see and hold and touch,

I guess hold and touch is the same thing, that little, he's trying to get these little mini drill holes, so he's building this like safe, this like dollhouse safe. Cool. That's gonna be working, which I think there's been little clips online of that so far. Oh, that's cool.

And so he was able to drill like maybe 50 or little pinholes in a dime. Wow. So that's how tiny the drill bit is. You can barely see it. It's so cool. And he is just the can barely see it. It's so cool. And he is just the best. We should have him on the show.

Actually, I was thinking about that. Oh, he'd be great. He'd also be a great guest in San Francisco sometime. That's what I'm thinking. Yeah, if we go back there. Yeah. Because he's very, very funny. And yeah, it's been, it was really just a-

That's great. Did you tell him that we love his bags? Oh, I did. Well, cause as I was leaving, It's been, it was really just a- That's great. Did you tell him that we love his bags? Oh, I did. Well, cause as I was leaving, he said to me, oh, I gotta give you a bag. I'm like, Adam, I have your, I love your bag. I said, Jason, I love, I wrote,

when I wrote him a letter to moderate my book event, that was my final line. I was like, just so you know, and also, I, I love your stuff. Um, and, uh, he was very, uh, you know, uh, flattered that we are fans of that, of the bag. He was surprised that we knew about the bag, but anyway, great guy. Uh, and, and took off the best way we met up. And then we met at this place in the, in the Bay, uh, got on one of those, uh, one wheeled, uh, like gyroscopic things. Yeah.

Popped on a helmet, jumped on one of those took off and I was like, man, oh, guy is cool. I love that. I love that. That sounds like a blast. Um, all right. So Scott, what is the game? Okay, Scott, what's your goddamn game?

All right. Keep expectations low here. All right. So Scott couldn't be lower. Thank you. This is the last looks episode. We are covering Merlin the return in this episode. R.I.P.

Rick Mael. R.I.P. R.I.P. 10 year anniversary of his death is this week, actually. Really? Oh wow. Yeah. So we're doing Merlin the return and we all know Merlin, one of the most famous wizards

of all time. But I wanted to test your knowledge of other wizards in film in a segment I like to call the Wiz Quiz. It's a quiz about wizards, there's no surprise a twist A quiz about wizards, it's time for a wiz quiz Wow, Q Music. You're acting as if a theme song is currently playing and there isn't one, let me be clear. So if you the listener are hearing a song, we're not privy to it. We do not know that song, but I love that you are,

you went, it wasn't the Rick Mayhall quiz, it's a wizarding quiz. And it's called the Wiz Quiz. Which as far as I'm concerned is a piss themed quiz. But go ahead, Scott. It should be a sound of piss. Oh, pss. But go ahead, Scott. Whiz quiz? It should be a sound of piss. It should be a sound of piss. Oh.

Piss. All right, I'm gonna ask you guys a few questions where you have to name the famous film wizard. I'm gonna interrupt you immediately, Scott. Are you gonna ask us individually or do we buzz in? You're gonna be buzzing in. You're gonna say either Team Fred or Team Sanity, and that'll be your buzz. Why're gonna say either Team Fred or Team Sanity,

and that'll be your buzz. Why don't we just say Fred or Sanity, since Team is the same? Great. Uh, you get a point if you get it correct, and you don't lose a point if you get it wrong, but if someone steals it, that'll be two points. Okay. Oh, wow. Okay.

All right? And I will warn you, the questions do rhyme. I just got a text. I don't know, because the episode hasn't come out yet. Everyone hates this game. BOTH LAUGHING All right, question one.

Darcy Carden's mad. She's like, could you steal Whizzy Hole? BOTH LAUGHING Whizzy Hole? That's a little too dirty. BOTH LAUGHING All right, question one. With a flowing cape and goatee style beard, you might say this

wizard got his MD in being weird. Sanity. Yes. It's gonna, yes, it's going to be a, the Benedict Cumberbatch wizard, uh, which is of course, uh, the, the great Dr. Strange. That is correct. All right. I see how it goes to doctor strange. That is correct. All right.

I see how it goes to team sanity. God damn it. Question number two, this evil wizard shoots light beams from his eyes and mouth. That'll turn any surface into rubble. And when he pops up on screen, you know, Kurt Russell's in big trouble. Oh, oh, uh. Um. This is a good one. I know the movie.

Fred? Fred? All right. Is it Lopin? Lopin is correct. Yes. From Big Trouble in Little China. Wow, never gotten.

I'm gonna say, Lopin, Big Trouble in Little China from, we did a blank check episode, Paul, about Big Trouble in Little China. That was did a blank check episode, Paul, about big trouble in little China. That was a blast. I will also say the only reason I remembered it in this case is because it is a recent episode of Action Boys. Ah, I love it.

Well, here's where my brain is broke. You said it and I was like, James Hong. Yeah. What is James? I could not remember, I knew it was James Hong. I only remember the name because I listened to that Action Boys episode last week. That's great. Action Boys now doing TV shows.

In their Zombie Squad tier of Patreon. That's what we're going to do. We're going to start a Patreon where we'll cover TV shows. I would love that. It's so fun. where we'll cover TV shows. I would love that. It's so fun. Um, action boys dot biz can't get enough. Great shows. Fantastic. All right.

We are tied one to one. Moving on to question three, when he grasps his magical snakeheaded scepter, he sure looks like a meanie, but this wizard's downfall was when he wished to become a genie. Oh, phew. Well, I buzzed in, but now he wished to become a genie. Oh, Jafar? That is correct.

Oh, okay. I wouldn't have known that. Paul's probably watched Aladdin with Codley. I was gonna say. But I will say, no, because it wasn't available for a long time and then they weren't interested in it, but I was watching wish the Sony movie that just came out on Netflix, which is just straight up Aladdin, but actually pretty fun.

I thought it was pretty good. Oh yeah. All right. This is the final question. This is a short quiz, but it is a final thought. I've got notes. We got, there's three answers in this one. All right.

So it could be anyone's game. Team Sanity is up two to one right now. All right, so I'm going to give you clues about two famous wizards who are portrayed by the same actor. So you have to name the names of both wizards and the actor who portrays them. All right? Oh, wow.

All right. Okay. Okay. The first wizard's name might make you weak. And if you'd enjoy a charms class at Hogwarts, it's the second wizard you'd seek. Okay. This is, I know what you're talking about here. This is, okay.

I got, this is, well, I know the wizard, but we have to name the actors. I know the actor. So it's clearly, do we work together? Okay. Wait, sorry. Say it, say, do we work together? Okay. Wait, sorry. Say it again, Scott. All right. The first wizard's name might make you weep.

Okay. Okay. So I- If you'd enjoy a charms class at Hogwarts, it's the second wizard you'd seek. Team Fred, I guess. Okay. Willow. Correct.

Right? It's, and it's Warwick Davis. That's correct. And then the charmsms Professor is... This is where your Harry Potter knowledge is on blast. Professor Binns? Is it not Binns? Who is it?

Ooh. Damn. It is not Binns. Who's Charms? It's not Professor Binns. Who is Binns? Let's see. Professor Binns teaches history of magic.

Professor Binns is history of magic? Okay, so fuck. Okay. All right. Who's Charms? Well, two out of magic. Professor Bins is history of magic? Okay, so fuck, okay. All right, well, two out of three charms is. Paul, do you remember charms? This is what I was thinking of, which was, okay. Hold on, give me one second, because I'm pulling it. But the other two are right, that's right. It's also a, it's a smaller person, right?

Like this is the person who- Yes, it's Ward Davis. So it, gosh, I don't know this at all. I just, the only thing I could remember was like, was it like owl and newt is what I could remember. Right. Is that like, uh, those are the names of like their exams at the end of the year. Professor Flint, Flint, Flint, Flintwick, Flitwick. Flitwick?

Flitwick, that is correct. Wow. Good job. I was not expecting Paul to pull the Harry Potter reference. That was a real, honestly, the owl in Newt, and I was like, and I was like, as owl, Newt, that was the only thing that was kind of pulling me. Wow. Well, Jason got two, which gives him a score of three.

Paul got one, which gives him a score of three also. And we have a tie. The battle continues of sanity and deep red. Next time. Next time. Next time. There's no Gandalf, white or gray. I thought they were gonna be too obvious to go with Lord of the Rings. Oh my God. You know what I was looking forward to?

Radegast the Brown? Come on, Scott. I was hoping for, you know, whatchamacallit, the wizard in season of the witch, but more importantly, Garen. Holy shit. The Goblin King from, is he a wizard? Is David Bowie? Labyrinth, is L labrant. Yeah, he's a wizard I guess

Fun I enjoy fun. Good job Scott. Thank you Scott. All right, we'll continue this battle. I love another last looks Oh the battle wages Oh, can I plug two more things that are podcasts that I'm on? The Off Menu podcast with James Acaster and Ed Gamble has come out. I recorded it while we were in London on that tour, sat down with those guys and did their podcast, which I had a blast doing. And then I also did a recent episode of All Songs Considered on NPR, where I chose music and got to talk about music with them for an hour, and that was a blast.

Oh man. I've done pretty much every podcast imaginable in the last month. Any in particular that you want, cause anything, like turn us onto ones we might not know about. Well yeah, there's a great one called Best Movies Never Made with Stephen Scarletta

and Josh Miller. Josh Miller is one of the writers of Sonic. I did the far side movie. So we actually read the script of the far side movie and then talked about, you know, we just, we talked about the movie. So we talked, it's kind of like how did this get made, but different.

But without the movie. Exactly, yes. And so kind of like how did this get made, but different in this- But without the movie. Exactly, yes. And so that was like, that was really, really fun. I also did another podcast who they called us the enemy. So I was listening to this podcast called What Went Wrong? And they basically focus on movies and they do the promise of our premise, which is how did it get made?

They do break down how these things get made and they do a great deep dive. So I'm listening to them. Wait, they think we're the enemy? Well, this is the funny thing. I'm listening to their episodes. I'm so into it. They're talking about Lost.

They do a really two-parter about Lost and all the crazy shit that went on in how Lost actually got made. And in talking about something, they go, oh, and Paul Scheer, the enemy. And I was like, what? I felt, and I wrote them, and I was like, what do you, ah, enemy, you know, and they, you know,

because they felt, you know, it was a jovial jet. Of course. And so I got on and we did What Went Wrong, Chinatown. Did they know you were a listener? I don't think so. Oh, that's even funnier. So yeah, I definitely hit them out of the blue with that. And they're great. Chinatown.

Yeah, we did Chinatown, what went wrong on Chinatown. Cool. Cause it's not about like, this movie became bad. It's just like, here are some crazy stories. Here were the struggles. Like here's Faye Dunaway throwing piss in Polanski's face. Like that level of absolute insanity. I also-

And that's called, that's called what went wrong. What went wrong. Okay. And I really, and I also- Even though, even though we're the enemy, we're still promoting their podcast. I'm gonna, I was like there and they do something so kind of cool.

They're really tight and so well researched. It's not like, oh, let's sit around and talk about Chinatown. It's like, let me tell you the story. No, no, it's, they're, and they do something so kind of cool. They're really tight and so well researched. It's not like, oh, let's sit around and talk about Chinatown. It's like, let me tell you the story. No, no, it's, they've done the work. Yeah. So it's like Cocaine and Rhinestones, or you must remember this.

It is a research-based podcast. Which is so fun to listen to. Smart, I like that. I did another podcast called 90 Minutes or Less Film Fest. So that's a British show that is, they only talk about movies that are 90 minutes or less. You get to pick your movie, I picked the Limey. And-

Oh, so they can be any, it can be any kind of a movie. Any movie, as long as they are 90 minutes or less. That one comes in right at 89 minutes. So funny, I was just saying that the other day we were talking about Out of Sight. And I was saying, I haven't seen the lime. I've seen Out of Sight a lot recently, but I haven't seen the limey in years.

Oh, the limey is so good. And we had a great conversation. And Nish Kumar, who you might know from, you know, yeah, so Nish is on there. He's talking about when we were kings. Oh, he's Taskmaster season five. He had the MASH report, fantastic standup comedian. And by the way, these are like,

they had Ethan Coen on there, you know, talking about the driveway dolls and a lot of fun people that you would know. I'm a big fan. And so then it's just a chat about the movie. It's not like, there isn't a theme on it. There is just, as long as it's 90 minutes or less, we're just gonna chat about the movie. It's not like there isn't a theme on it. There is just, as long as it's 90 minutes or less, we're just gonna chat about the movie.

Yeah, exactly. So you have like Joanna Robinson talking about Attack the Block or Celine Song talking about Computer Chess. So really fun podcast that I think you will. I love that. I'm gonna subscribe to, that's 90 minutes or less? Yeah, 90 minutes or less film fest.

And what went wrong are the people that think we're their enemies. Yes, and then of course there is the great, I mean, I'm telling you, I've done a lot of fun. By the way, these are great recs. Fun movie podcasts, and look, it shows that we can always, we can all share. Oh, and you know what I did the other day

that was just so much fun? Rift tracks. I don't do riff tracks But I had a conversation with the guys from riff tracks Oh cool and I was like we got to do something with them at one point because I'm we're such a fan of What they do and oh, yeah, we cover certain things that are fun. We thought it'd be fun But I feel like every once in a while we get asked to do and participate in like a podcast festival or a day of

to do and participate in like a podcast festival or a day of podcasting or whatever. And it's always, it's at this show and at that show and we put them all together and it's a day of this or a weekend of that. Wouldn't it be fun to get all of the movie podcasts together for just a weekend of movie podcasts? I mean, it would be, I actually think it would be really, really fun. From film cast to-

You get the blank check. Yes, blank check to the ones you've been just mentioning to... Get newcomers there. Action boys get them in there. You know, like there's so many movie-based podcasts that come at it from some are funny, some are... Like what you're talking about, some of these sound like actually like well-researched, you know,

like more informative than just us doing bits. You know, that guy, I feel like it would be a good, what, we can get, uh, we hate movies in there. We can get the other bad movie podcast, Rift Ranks, everybody. I think that's the fun thing about it is we all share a common language. And, oh, be a blast. I would love it. And by the way, uh, when I was on, uh, Colbert, he wants to come on and do Maniac Cop. That's what he was talking about. He's like, I was like, amazing, let's go for it. I love it when people have,

not just like an appreciation for it, but a movie they wanna talk about. Oh, they're ready for it. Yeah, they're ready for it. That would be, I think, very fun. I think you would also, and this is one other one that I think you might like. Well, you know what?

No, I've plugged a bunch of these podcasts. They're all, they're all amazing. I have more to plug at a certain point because I'm on so many, but, uh, it was, it was a blast. It was a blast to do all these. Amazing. Do you feel, are you done now? Is it like, are you winding down?

I like a yes and no, because I guess part of this is that it never really ends. Ultimately. Uh, you know, the idea being that the book has its first wave, which are the, the So, because I guess part of this is that it never really ends ultimately. You know, the idea being that the book has its first wave, which are the amazing fans, people here that maybe- Congratulations, you are a New York Times best seller. I mean, that is a wild thing that- True, true hero.

That was truly, wow, hard. Hard when you walk into a store and there's a table of Tom Selleck books and you walk over to his shelf and there are four of your books. So I feel like I really do take that with a badge of honor, especially because of all the amazing listeners that had this get made who did show up in droves.

So I can't say enough, thank you. And even on the audio book, but I will say. I would love it if you would sign my Tom Selleck book. By the way, I did sign a Tom Selleck book. I didn't tell anybody I did. I love it. But I also signed one of my books, Tom Selleck, to even it out.

But yeah, so I guess it continues a little bit because the idea being it has gone through the first wave and now it's like, oh, does it have legs in the sense that does it connect with other people? And that's actually what's been really interesting is that people that I wouldn't expect to be reading it that are outside, that don't know me, I've been hearing about it.

So that's really kind of fun and my God, it's exhausting. It's the hardest I've ever worked for anything. In those Pacific Northwest dates, when you had book events and the show and all, I was like, this is insane. It's insane. And it's like the only way to kind of do it or you just become a book on a shelf.

Like, you know, and it's like, and it's like, I worked too hard on this to be like, just to be like, eh. Like I talked to somebody and she was like, well, no, that's not my job. I'm like, well, whose job is it? Like you gotta promote the book. At a certain point, it's your job.

Or it will just sit there and you will be, I will say I did my enemy that week. My first week was Bill Maher, who was number one across the board in everything. Amazon, indie book sellers, New York Times, everything, just crazy. So good on Bill Maher. All right, well, this is great. We will talk again soon.

All right, goodbye. All right, thank you, Jason, for chatting with me. And I also want to shout out the Earwolf engineer, Jordan Duffy, who sang that amazing theme song for our Wiz Quiz. Jordan, that was pretty awesome. If you want to check out more of her music, you can go to jordanduffymusic.com. Duffy who sang that amazing theme song for our Wiz Quiz Jordan. That was pretty awesome. If you want to check out more of her music, you can go to jordanduffymusic.com. Okay, it is now finally time to announce our next movie. Next week, we'll be going

from Medieval Nights to M Nights. That's right. Next episode, we are watching the 2008 M Night Shyamalan sci-fi drama, The Happening, starring Mark Wahlberg, Zooey Deschanel, and John Legosamo. Now, here's a short breakdown of the plot. A science teacher, his wife, and a young girl struggle to survive a mysterious plague that causes those infected to commit suicide in the most insane ways. Now, Rotten Tomatoes gives this film an 18% score on the tomato meter and Jason Bailey from Flavorwire wrote,

For reasons still unknown, Shyamalan wrote the dialogue this stiffly and instructed his performers to act like they'd never said words or interacted with each other before. And I gotta tell you, it's true, but that's what makes this movie amazing. Let's take a listen to the trailer for The Happening. I got it, Alan. The Happening, a film by M. Night Shyamalan. I just have to be alive when it's over. Rated R, Friday, June 13th. Now, The Happening isn't currently streaming free anywhere, but you can rent it just for a few bucks on Apple TV, YouTube, Amazon Prime, or Google Play.

Separately, I also encourage you to check out Hoopla and Canopy, Love Canopy, which are digital media services offered by your local public library or Google Play. Separately, I also encourage you to check out Hoopla and Canopy, Love Canopy, which are digital media services offered by your local public library that allow you to consume movies, TV shows, music, audio books, eBooks, and comics for free. All right, that is it for the show. Please remember to rate and review us.

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