How Did This Get Made? - Last Looks: Munchies & The Dog Who Saved Christmas

Episode Date: December 8, 2023

It's a super-sized Last Looks! Paul and Jason chat about all the TV, movies, comic books, and podcasts that they're currently loving. Plus, Paul gets into corrections and omissions from both Munchies & The Dog Who Saved Christmas, shares exclusive bonus scenes from each episode, and reveals next week's movie. PAUL & JASON'S PICKS:MoonlightingScott Pilgrim Takes OffSeconds: A Graphic Novel by Bryan Lee O’MalleyDutch Blitz card game PAUL'S PICKS:The Mysteries by Bill WattersonA Disturbance in the ForceBottomsAlan Partridge: Big BeaconDie Hard On A Blank Podcast JASON'S PICKS:WYAR 88.3 Radio in Yarmouth MaineRoaming by Jillian Tamaki and Mariko TamakiFriday by Ed BrubakerNewburn by Chip ZdarskyFirepower by Robert Kirkman & Chris SamneeMonica by Daniel ClowesGotham City: Year One by Tom KingNimonaMetalocalypse: Army of the DoomstarStarstruck (Season 3)ExtraordinaryShoresy (Season 2)The GoldMid Morning Matters with Alan PartridgeScam Goddess PodcastDoughboys PodcastCollege Town Podcast Go to hdtgm.com for tour dates, merch, and more! Follow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer/HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheerCheck out Paul and Rob Huebel live on Twitch (www.twitch.tv/friendzone) every Thursday 8-10pm ESTSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael here: www.thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcastSubscribe to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson here: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledCheck out The Jane Club over at www.janeclub.comCheck out new HDTGM merch over at https://www.teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmWhere to find Jason, June & Paul:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on Twitter

A Munchy Scholar checks in. We talk about the gift of gingerbread houses and we do a hair check on Mario Lopez, all this and more on today's last looks. Hit the theme! Hello to all my Munchy lovers and my fellow dog perverts. I'm your host Paul Sheer and welcome to this very special super sized edition of How To This Get Made Last Looks. You might be wondering Paul, why is it special? Why is it super sized?

Well we took a little break over Thanksgiving. So this episode is going to address both of our last films. Munchies and the dog who saved Christmas. And if that is not enough, now the actor's strike is finally over. Jason and I can once again chat about all things TV and movies that we are currently loving. Plus, as always, I will reveal next week's movie and I will share a couple of exclusive bonus scenes from our last two episodes. So that's why it's a special super sized edition. People, it is the season of giving and I

am giving you a big old episode. But first of all, a big shout out to Dan from Rochester. Dan, I love that theme song. That was awesome. What a great way to start off this episode. And you know what? I don't just love Dan from Rochester. I love everybody who sends in a theme song. If you have one that you want to send for this program, the last looks program, send it into how to just get made at Earwolf.com, but keep them short just like Dan did, that's perfect. And now I have a very special non-announcement. Yes, because on Monday we are going to have a big announcement, but I can't officially tell you what that is yet, but I will tell you, if you live in

Europe, you're going to want to pay attention to our social media channels on December 11th because how did this get made has a very big announcement. Okay, so I think most of you can put that together. It might be the first time something is happening with our show and Europe. Again, I can't announce it, but I feel like I've given you plenty of context clues to put it together.

Remember, Monday, December 11th, stay tuned to our social media channels and find out more. All right, people, that 11th, stay tuned to our social media channels and find out more. All right, people, that was pretty good clue. Let's get into it. During our last two episodes, we talked at length about both munchies and the dog who saved Christmas. We had questions and we might have even missed a few things.

Here's your chance to set a straight. Fact check us, if you will. It is now time for corrections and omissions. Hit the theme! Thank you anyhow blues for that great theme. First we'll be talking about Monchies of Film that Discord user, PNWPeloma, so that's PNPWPeloma, thought could have had the tagline, we won't help you with these Monchies. Well, I like that. That was actually really. That may be my favorite tagline that we've had since we started doing these taglines.

Alright, let's go to the Discord. Sean McBee writes, there is a chapter on Munchies in Francesco Borsetti's book, It Came From the 80s, in which the writer, director, cinematographer and Munchie designer are all interviewed. It answers a lot of the questions a gang had and brings up another. So here's what I learned. According to the writer, Lance Smith,

Roger Corman wanted a scene where Arnold ate the dude's hash brownies, inspiring the name Munchies. Corman changes mind about the Arnold ate the dude's hash brownies, inspiring the name Munchies. Corman changed his mind about the scene, but the name stuck. I like that, okay, that makes some sense. The writer also made himself a personal promise that if he ever got to do a creature feature, he'd have the deadhead die first just because there's such, this is a quote, unknowing assholes. Wow!

Coming at the deadheads. If the writer also confirms that the munchies are not aliens, okay, but does not tell us what they are. Interesting. Director Tina Hirsch made her directorial debut on this film having previously been an editor on three of Roger Cormin's movies. He knew she wanted to direct and selected her for this movie

because she had been the editor on Grimmons, which we did talk about, or maybe we edited that out, but we did know that. Hirsch also noted that in Grimmons, it took five people to operate each puppet, but on munchies, they had a single person operating two puppets simultaneously, and they didn't even build any elevated sets

to allow room for the puppeteers. No shit, we saw it. The puppet tree sucked. They also filmed an entire opening sequence showing how the munchies were created a thousand years ago in a Mayan cave, but it got cut. Well, we need to see that deleted scene. So the photographer Jonathan West

gave answers on the budget question 1.2 million. Wow! Did a lot of that go to Harvey Korman or like did Harvey Korman request payment twice? I don't know. I want to get to the bottom of that. Lastly, my own note from the book, I am surprised that no one noticed that the crazy driving granny who was oddly adiard by a clearly much younger person doing an old lady impression was actually Ellen Dow, best known as the rapappin Granny from the Wedding Singer. Ah, how do we not call out the Rappin Granny?

There's been so many of them. And why wouldn't you use the Rappin Granny's voice? Anyway, then Farm Boy writes in to discuss the audience member in the episode who identified himself as a space lawyer, saying space law is actually a recognized field in law, and space lawyer is apparently a real term. McGill faculty of law in Montreal offers a master's degree in air and space law, and the University of Mississippi School of Law publishes the world's only law journal devoted to space law. Meanwhile, Michelle Hanlon is a prominent example of a space lawyer.

All right, thank you, farm boy. I hope that the space lawyer did not pay you to write that. But yeah, you learned some new. That's what I love about this show. This show is like New York Times the Daily. You're learning about things that we never even knew or possible. And now we all know about space law

and it will now be the premise of my brand new NBC sitcom Space Lawyer. Maddie Ice writes, for those keeping track, Frank Wilker, who voiced some of the munchies, has now been a voice part in 15 How Did This Get Made Muppies? Whoa, he's been in munchies. Teenage Mutant Drills 2, Hudson Hawks, Super Mario Bros. The Shadow Mortal Kombat, Virtuosity, the Island of Dr. Morrow's Space Jam, Anaconda, Godzilla, Deep Blue Sea, Transformers Rise of the Fallen, the Backup Plan, and the Smurfs.

Pretty incredible run. Well done, Frank, I love it. Let's go to the phone's Anthony from Providence, you're on. Hey, Paul, I really enjoyed the munchies episode. Well, watching the film, I thought the actor who played dude looked really familiar, so I looked him up. Turns out the actor, John Stafford, who's a really good character actor, also played Doc in Full Metal Jacket. It's a small part, but it is a key role. And what's funny is that Monchies in Full Metal Jacket both came out in the same year, 1987, and they're the first two credits on this rey the mic so he literally went

from dying on the battlefield in the famous sniper scene in Kubrick's full middle jacket to getting killed by alien hand puppets which I thought was just really wild anyway great episode taken easy. What by mind is blown! Talk about highs and lows in one year. I love that. Wow, imagine, you know, you're hanging out on set with Kubrick. He's like, oh, what have you been working on? Oh, just this the munchies. And I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. All right. Let's hear from Carolyn in Dallas. Hi, guys. I was just listening to the munchies and you guys talk about how Paul's mom would say it must be jelly because jam don't shake like that.

And I remembered that RuPaul actually says that multiple times on drag race and I think she might even have a song called that. But I also looked it up and apparently it must be jelly because Jam don't shake like that. It's a 1942 jazz and pop song recorded by Ren Miller and Hidorkestra. So that phrase has been around for a long time. It's something that people say.

So Jason was wrong that Paul's mom was saying stuff that people don't say. So anyway, let the show and hopefully you'll come to Dallas sometime soon. Thanks so much. Bye. Yes, thank you, Carolyn. That I knew it. My mom is in that clever to come up with that on her own.

And damn you Jason, I knew it was from something, but I didn't do the research. You did, I appreciate that you did. And you know what, as a matter of fact, let's hear a little bit of that original song, the Glenn Miller original right now. like that. You must be jelly-coz, damn no jay, like that. Oh, mama, you're so gay and fat. Pretty damn catchy, that's a banger. And now let's hear RuPaul's song. Yes, I am basking in the glory of being right. And by the way, you're welcome for me introducing you to some new hits.

I mean, this should be going up on the charts pretty quickly. All right, let's hear it now from Amy in Baltimore. Hi Paul, I was at the DC show for Munchies. Had an amazing time and I had been waiting very patiently for the release of the episodes so that I could call and ask you this question. So listening to How The Skit Made brings me so much joy, but nothing delights me more

than when you share the amazing stories from your childhood. So, what I would love to know is when will you be releasing your memoir, and can I be first in line to get a copy? I am dying to hear your answer. Thank you so much, and take care. Amy, this is a great question. As a matter of fact, may, may is when my book is coming out Yeah, it's called joyful recollections of trauma. I'm in the midst of kind of finalizing it right now It's not officially announced, but if you look around you can preorder a copy right now So more on that soon, but may 21st joyful recollections of trauma by me, Paul Schier.

Some stories that you might have heard here on the podcast and some stories that you might be surprised by. I don't know. I'm putting it together right now where we're just kind of adding some stuff back in. I like it. I'm excited for it. I hope you all like it too. But yes, May 21st, mark your calendar. You can be

first in line because you asked. Alright, now we've had so many great corrections and omissions. We are going to take a quick break before diving into your thoughts on the dog who saved Christmas. But first, enjoy the short deleted scene from our Munchy show where we learn an interesting fact about the main character shoes, beer a back. I'm here with Mike Lindell. Not Mike Lindell. My pillow? Mike on the Discord brought up something interesting,

which I think is just worthy of mentioning. Throughout the entire movie, The Lead Actor wears a 1985 pair of Jordan Wands, which just had their own movie in air and just watched get covered in dirt and grime and mud. And at one point, he actually jumps into a body of water to help the girls. Those shoes today. Cindy. Cindy.

No, no, I think the cheerleader girls, the two other women. The tire girls. Go ahead, Mike. A used pair of those in that condition would go for anywhere from 1,500 to 3 grand. And if there were any left on set, those brand new shoes sell for anywhere from 30,000 to 52,000 dollars currently online. I would never have assumed that sneaker culture and how did this get made fans? Would overlap in a venn diagram at all?

I not only did not notice the sneakers in this movie, even if I had, I wouldn't have known any of that. That's wild. All right, welcome back. that is enough of munchies You know you might be thinking Paul you didn't say who won well, you know what? I am I'm not gonna pick a winner just from the munchies. I'm I'm gonna pick a winner that is a combined winner Who is the best? question concern correction and omission amongst both shows?

So that's really it's a tougher the tougher uh... i don't know tougher jump to make i guess if that's not a perfect metaphor but i'm gonna stick to it a tougher jump to make anyway let's get into corrections and omissions from the dog who saved christmas a movie that discord user the christmas martian and i

things could have had the tagline bark the herald A movie that Discord user, the Christmas Martiananna? Thanks could've had the tagline, bark the heralds angels sing. I like it, nice. All right, let's go to the Discord and speaking of the Christmas Martiananna, she writes, can someone please explain to me why the cat is named Cheegway?

Also, if the grandma lives so far away, how is she frequently going to karaoke night with Bobo Kevin James' neighbor lady? Oh wow. Maybe she lived there earlier on or maybe... Wow, that makes actually no sense. Again, we talked about this in the show. That movie was heavily improvised and no one was fact checking, no one was saying that makes no sense. It was like, let's go. Let's keep it moving. We just needed a joke about singing Hanaka songs at karaoke, which already I feel like, let's not even call that much attention out to that one. GT75 says, another weird choice for me was building the gingerbread house when the home is known to have a

mouse problem. I would think the last thing they would want sitting out is a huge cookie structure that they said took two weeks to build. Surely if Zeus is just chasing the mice, he could have knocked over anything fragile. You know what, now you're really getting in the weeds here, GT75. I appreciate a good correction omission, but there are so many things wrong with that gingerbread house. I think that building one where there is a mouse problem is the least of the problems. I think you could one where there is a mouse problem is the least of the problems. I think you could cover that up just fine.

I get it. But we're really, I mean, if you're picking at that, like you're treating this movie like it's Oppenheimer. I mean, that is a real, a real underneath the carpet one. Again, a phrase no one use underneath the carpet. Jay Z23 also has some Gingerbread House thoughts. Oh wow, geez, okay. Regarding the gingerbread house The mom said this is the only thing she the grandma wants for Christmas

Why does the grandma want a gingerbread house and what is she gonna do with it? Well first of all Eat it Second of all, it's a nice thing. It's like don't spend money. I mean make something for me I would love you all to put your time and energy into a beautiful gingerbread house. I like that sentiment. I think it's a big ask, honestly. And why did they have to make it?

They could have probably just lied and bought one. I mean, that was the thing. It was a mess. I tried to make one from Targeted Gingerbread House. It looked like a damn shame. I thought it was going to be easy. It's not easy. Gingerbread houses are hard, just go buy one.

Let the professionals do it. Shawn McBeer writes, I found Adrian Barbosaline. That's what happens when you outlive most of your family, absolutely chilling. Because hear me out, Barbos is only 64 when this movie comes out, so either that line was intended for a woman 20 years older than her or this cat

lady has had a tragic fucking life that is far and away more compelling than anything else going on in this movie and it makes me want to see her movie. Sean, wow. Woof! That is a that's a rough moment there. I mean, but if she is playing 20 years older, then it's kind of fine. Do you think she's playing 64? I don't know. Oof. Rough. Alright, back to the phones. We have Anna from Los Angeles. Hi, Jason Paul and June. The dogs who save Christmas, there's a great audience question. But I found myself yelling at my phone that she failed to mention that Michael Piper, the director of this film, also directed another how to just get made plastic, the 12th of Christmas. He has a great record for this podcast and I think we now need to spin off

podcasts that watches his entire semography or at least the sequels to to obviously Christmas. the Day Christmas. Thanks, bye. What? I did not realize that I had all the credits. I didn't see it. And even Discord user Lizard Breath mentioned this fact and added since the podcast is done two of Michael Fifers Christmas movies. Can we please do one of his murder movies next based on the titles alone I vote vote for my daughter's psycho friend. Or, here kills the bride.

Oh, I am so in. We have to tell Averyl about this. By the way, 12 Pups of Christmas will be our next Matinee Monday episode. So we will tip the hat once again to this director who is provided us with so much entertainment. Next up, Emma. Once again, to this director who has provided us with so much entertainment. Next up, Emma. Hi, I'm Emma. I'm calling about the dog that saved Christmas.

That was actually up the show. I wanted to ask this question, but I was changed to do it. Is there a reason why when the cops are taking the wood bandits away? Joey D. is his character. He's not wearing hand cuts. He's just holding whatever his hands in front of him. His wrists together as if he was wearing them, but absolutely no hand cuts on him. Um, yeah, that's it. Oh my god, Emma. I'm looking at it still of it right now. You are 100% right? His hands are just over each other.

What a wee, why not? You would think that even renting that outfit, you'd get cuffs, no cuffs. That is absolutely, I wanna stare, this is a picture I want in my house. I think this should be like a Christmas picture I put over the mantle. Let's go to L.J. from Rancho Cucamanga.

Love that. Watching the dogs and save Christmas. And you said it was from the ABC family, 25 days countdown to Christmas. And when they do the exterior shot of the grove, at about two, only two minutes to 55 seconds in, you see a billboard for the countdown to the 25 days of Christmas. So my question is, did they shoot this a year in advance and put that in or was that footage filmed near weeks or days before this film got put on TV? Thanks. Okay, L.J., I like your thought process on this, that it was shot just days before, but ABC Family's 25 Days of Christmas is a yearly thing,

so I bet you they just shot it the year before. I don't think they were just getting that like top of the movie right out before, but who knows, honestly with a movie like this, I don't know, but yes, ABC's Family 25 Days of Christmas is a thing. I think it's going on right now, as a matter of fact, we're missing it. But if anyone can prove LJ right, let me know.

All right. And now back to the discord for one last comment from dog pervert idiot. Who comments this is the heriest character that Mario Lopez has ever played. Wow. Finally, we got some hair on Lopez. I love it. This has been a wild week. So many great corrections and emissions,

but there can only be one, one winner that really encapsulates the spirit of the show. And I have to say, you all, you brought it. You brought it to me and I felt really good, but I have to say, the person who I am giving this to is the person who got my back, who proved me right. It took a while, but she came to help me. Carolyn from Dallas, you are our winner. That's right. And you get this amazing theme from get this amazing theme from Seth Chatfield. Hit it.

Thank you so much for all these corrections and emissions, and if you want to submit an alt movie tagline or chime in with your own thoughts about the latest episode, hit us up at the discord at discord.gg-hdtgm or call us at 619-Paul-Ask. Coming up, Jason and I will chat about all the TV shows, movies, podcast books, and so many other things that we can finally talk about again, and I will reveal next week's movie, but first enjoy this deleted scene from the dog who saved Christmas, where we talk about the actors who appear in the rest of the dog who saved sequels. Now, Adrian Barbot is in two, but this is where it gets crazy.

Paris Hilton, Casper Van Bien, Catherine Oxenberg are in the sequel. What? Just number two? Just number two. Lance Henrichson. Lance Henrichson. Yes. Sorry, I always have a hard time pronouncing it. Maya Angelou. Maya Angelou. Yes, my I I was right I was have a heart-to-heart answer my I my Angelou my am be my am my am and you know My my am and under everyone's seat is a book of her poetry Oh, it Laurie at for a reason my am my

Curtis Armstrong Yes are in the Halloween. Great. Okay. Shelley Long comes in for Shelley Long and Michael Gross from Family Times Legends from Holidays. Michael Gross played my dad on NTSF. He's a lovely man. He was also in Grayson Frankie.

Great, great guy, great guy. He'sE.'s a lovely man. He was also in Grace and Frankie. Great. He's a great guy. He's put in a number. Yeah. Nicole Egert comes in, whoo. We have four Easter. And then the bad guy from Karate Kid, Martin Kove, who plays Sensei John Creece in the original Karate Kid with Johnny from the crowd. Kid Williams, Abka, come in for summer.

Are they their characters from the crowd. I had only assumed yes. I would believe it if this was a crossover. I have a feeling a lot of these people are doing dog work. Because I'm looking. Oh, because Williams, Abka plays a polo. I imagine that that's as a polo. I imagine that that's not a human name.

But we'll see, because I do believe we should throw the gauntlet down to ourselves, too. Please don't. Please, please really consider what you're about to say. I'll let the audience decide. I'll let the audience decide. I'll let the audience decide here. I mean, I feel like they want it. I feel like, I feel like over the course of some time at Easter,

we do Easter, at summer, we do summer, at Halloween, we do Halloween, and we got two more Christmas. Okay, fine. We'll do it. That I was on. And I will say that I don't want to do the last one in the series that they just announced, which is the dog that saved the kids from being human trafficked. Kavisels in it. It's a sequel to the sound of freedom. It's a secret. It's a secret. It's a secret. It's a secret. It's a secret.

It's a secret. It's a secret. It's a secret. It's a secret. It's a secret. Welcome back, people. You know this. Every Monday, we are releasing an old episode back into the feed.

We're trying to keep this whole thing going. We had the great Jack Frost with Dan Harmon on last week. We have now Snow Dad is better than no dad. We have those as a how to this get made ugly sweater which you can get on pod swag. We have a geostorm ugly sweater. You get a pod swag. They are great looking. Also, because like I mentioned earlier, this week's Matt named Monday is going to be a replay of another canine Christmas classic, the 12 Pups of Christmas, done by the same director of the dog who saved Christmas. This guy loves Christmas and he loves dogs and we love him. Alright, so keep on checking out these replays every Monday. They'll be in your

stream. And now let's welcome Jason Manzookus back to the show for a little just chat, Seth Chatfield, play us in one more time. Is it this? So good to be that a little swan and look in a little tip of the hat. No, it's Jason and Paul. Just getting into it all and a segment nine week old. Just chill. Yeah.

Jason, the strike is over. And finally, we can get back to what we love doing, which is talking about things that we are watching. All the things we're obsessed with. Things that are made by giant corporations. Oh wait, we can finally, our love is that. Now we can go from fighting these giant corporations to singing their praises.

Oh, how quickly we turned. You did it again, Lucasfilm. Oh my God. Well, you know, I was just happy that it happened. Well, I will say, like, I was, I will say, I was going through my, like, things to talk about list. Yeah. And because I keep one kind of just ongoing.

Yeah. And, but, but for these, you for these six, seven months, I've only been putting stuff on there that is not from these companies. So there's nice stuff on here to talk about. That was strike proof stuff to talk about. So I will have a few things. Well, I like that.

I think the one thing that someone said to me early on, like, are you so excited to strike a silver because now that it is you and Jason can talk about moon lighting and you and I got to talk about it briefly when we were on tour, but my God, I'm so glad. Isn't it incredible? It's incredible. I'm like, I'm two seasons into it.

The whole of moon lighting, if you've listened to us talk about it before, has been unavailable for streaming until just last month. It is now available on Hulu for the very first time, and it is exceptional television. Bruce Willis, civil shepherd, here's a thing, and I think this is what I was never really able to articulate. Maybe it's been because it's been gone for such a long time. You know how they die hard was obviously a huge movie and then people tried to ape that style of die hard

over and over again and to varying degrees of success. Bruce Willis, what he does as an actor in this is something that people tried to ape to varying degrees of success. And because of how to get made, I think that we often see people doing bad Bruce Willis impressions and seeing him do it after years of not seeing it as a smile.

Yeah, it's interesting because exactly what you're saying is true. This was such an impactful TV show, culturally. Yeah. The performance was so game-changing for Bruce Willis for TV. It was such an incredible performance and as was Cybershopper, the show is incredible. But its absence means all you've seen, it's like the day-less soul albums being out of print for all these years. And in a way, now that they're finally available, people are discovering just how significant they were to all of hip hop history because they were so meaningful at the time

for so many people. But then we're basically the equivalent of out of print. You know, you could not get them. They were not streaming. They weren't available. You couldn't watch these performances. You couldn't watch moonlighting. And so all we've lived in is everything It inspired and all of the tacky ripoffs. And I think the other thing that I've really Come to appreciate again. I didn't know this as a child, but simple shepherd like simple shepherd is Awesome, and she plays really well, and I like I feel like you know, he obviously gets so much Attention and he's great. But I just didn't know her.

I didn't know her. I didn't even understand what she was when I was a kid. But then she was this person in a way. Well, what's so interesting to me, because I agree. And to me, it was Dave and Maddie. Yes. It wasn't even Bruce Willis and Cybil Shepherd.

Obviously, I didn't know Bruce Willis was at the time, but I mean, I had a passing understanding of Cybil Shepherd. She had been in movies and on shows forever. But even still, it didn't matter. They were just Dave and Maddie to me. I love you. You know what I mean? The best.

Their chemistry is crackling. It's like Roslyn Russell and Carrie Grant in his girlfriend. It is incredible, it's like, it's like Roslyn Russell and Carrie Grant in his girlfriend. It is like incredible screwball comedy, case of the week, detective stories. It's the fucking best. But I will say this, if you have never watched the show and you have no allegiance to it,

you might feel like we are overselling it if you're watching the first episode because the first episode is, it's a great pilot pilot but it's 90 minutes and it takes it takes a beat to figure out exactly Well like like a lot of TV at the time. It's slow. It's just slow, you know And it is really good, but it's but it is funny. It's like I was like I was showing it to June It's like I think I remember this. Now I remember lines from that pilot. Like I remember so many things,

but it's 90, it's a 90 minute pilot for an hour long show where like the first 20 minutes, I feel like Bruce Willis is not in it. And you're like, No, because you have to first understand the crime, then you have to understand Maddie Hayes and then only then do you get into who is David Addison. Yeah, it's really,

so I would say at least give it, like get through the pilot watching episode or two, and then you'll see what we're talking about. But if you're watching it cold, I was realizing like June was like, I made to this, but yeah, I will say, and I wonder if you have any, this is an interesting question.

There are very few pilot episodes, first episodes of a TV show that I think are themselves incredible, or are themselves incredible representations of the show to come. I find most shows pilots are a little wonky, a little off. And when it does hit right, your twin peaks is, you're, you know, some of the other things that I think are unimpeachably fantastic

or rest of the development are just kind of like, wow, this is incredible. Everything else, you're like, okay, this is like 65% there. You know, it takes a little bit. Right, the voices and the tone was there. And I think I'm reacting to it. Like you get into the fun stuff. Like all the characters are there, they're clean.

But then the show just moves with the pace. The pacing of the show is so fast. And you're there in the scenes, but the plot of the first episode is wild. I mean, I just love being a television like that. Ooh, and it's also, I will say, it's a great LA show. It's a great 80s LA styles, hair styles, the clothing styles.

Just 80s LA is very much on display, and that is very fun. I love it. All right, so you've been talking about some other stuff that you have been watching that still is strike proof. What do you got? I got to go to. Well, you know, I'm trying to think of,

less what I'm watching more, what I'm reading and podcasts and stuff like that. Those are more like in the world of like strike proof stuff. I want to give a particular shout out, especially a, I want to shout out. I spent, we were there for our tour and then I was there seeing family. I was in Portland, Maine for a while and over the last couple of months

I've been to Portland, Maine a bunch and have become obsessed with WYAR 88.3 Yarmouth, Maine public radio station That is like an old-timey radio station that plays like old time music, literally old time music. And I'm absolutely captivated by this radio station and it does not stream. And so I'm calling on our fans to like,

if, listen, it's the giving part of the year. If you've got money to give and you want to give it to a small radio station in Maine to help them get us, or if you can help them figure out how to stream their radio station. I thought you were going to be basically asking for people to make you tapes and send it to you like I used to take the power that. Or that I will tape I would happily receive tapes of this I just am more like I feel like somebody just needs to turn on a switch for these guys. It seems like a bunch of old guys running a radio station. It is so funny. And I'm so obsessed with it. And then I went to stream it when I got back to LA and was heartbroken to find

that it does not stream at all. Anyway, W-Y-A-R 88.3 in Yarmeth, Maine, you guys, you're killing it. First of all, I love all this. I was about one thing that I feel like no one has talked about and I feel crazy about it. Okay. You know I love Calvin and Hobbes when I was a kid. Sure great. Great comic. You know the Bill Waterston just released a book Yes, it's called the mysteries and I feel like I've talked to some die-hard Calvin and Hobbes Who have no idea? It's not Calvin and Hobbes obviously. It's actually very cool. It's like this very, this weird kingdom, it's like a fable about this kingdom that's in despair.

The king sends out a knight to discover what is wrong. That's all I kind of say. It's beautiful. And it's just a fan of Bill Waterston. I just feel like, you know, I mean mean I I mean my favorite Calvin and Hobbes I always tell you this is Calvin pissing on the on the GMC logo or yeah, of course Yeah, yeah, because Calvin's straight and Ford F-150s all the way I remember I love it when Calvin pisses

I remember I love it when Calvin pisses I Every They're just people must be kids who go through those books who don't you think their kids go through those books now and are like where is he when does he piss? It's so terrible. I think the water sent tried to suit people because Calvin never pissed but yet this I Calvin pissing is like pissed, but yet this idea of Calvin pissing is like arguably the most iconic Calvin is the pissing Calvin. Like the one that has lasted the longest is the pissing Calvin for real. Pissing Calvin is wild. I will say that there's one thing and it's burned into my brain. It's not funny, but I will just whatever. I was in New York City and there was a fire department.

And obviously they had lost firefighters during 9-11 and they had this beautiful mural and one of the pieces of the mural was Calvin in front of a grave stone praying. And I was like, no, this is like, I've also seen the Calvin in front of a grave stone for multiple things too. It's like I don't know like I was it took me out of the sentiment. It was like wait, what the fuck is that? Why is Calvin here? Why is Calvin at the gravestone too?

I'm like, oh, that's crazy. Miss appropriate. I've seen Calvin at gravestones now multiple times too. I don't I don't know why weird Gravestones now multiple times too. I don't know why. It's so weird. Don't know why. It's bizarre. I was trying to find what it's called, but there's a great, but I think there's two of them now

that I think are called the annotated Calvin and Hobbes, where it's all sorts of extra material from the production of it and all sorts of, I think that's what it's called. I'm trying to look it up now, but I'm not finding it. I'll find it. It's called something else'm trying to look it up now, but I'm not finding it. I'll find it. It's called something else.

That was back in the day when things were, I mean, look, I mean, when I was getting my comics the right way, you know, it's like, we were so old. It's just old men now talking about. I'm talking about Calvin and Hobbes. I'm talking about when Calvin and Bart would team up and hit on a GMC logo. Oh man, by the way. Oh man.

Uh, I gotta, I gotta recommendation for you. It's probably too new for you to have seen yet, but I'm a big, uh, Scott Pilgrim fan. I love the books. Brian Leo Malley takes off. Let's go. Scott Pilgrim takes off. Let's do it Brian Leomaly. Take off, let's go. Scott Pilgrim, take off, let's do it. Love it.

So good, it's so good, it's so fun. It's a Netflix show, it's animated, it's fully done in an anime style, it's anime, I should say not anime, it's anime. They did it in Japan, they have the whole team, my buddy, Ben David Grubinsky and and Brian Leomalley just teamed up, they got the original voices, everybody from Scott Pilgrim versus the world,

and they put them in this thing, but it's completely unique and different. You don't need to have seen the movie, you don't need to have read the books, but yet it's not retreading. It's like, it's yet again, another medit- It's such a smart play. You know, I loved, I haven't finished it yet.

I think I've watched four of them so far. I don't know how many there are, but I think I've watched four. And it is absolutely fantastic, because exactly what you're saying, it takes the book and the movie, the books, and the movie as a kind of starting point, and just kind of goes in all sorts of different storytelling,

just indulges in the curiosity of following these characters in other choices, into other, interpreting them in other ways. It's, I think it's absolutely fantastic. The one funny thing was I wanted to watch Scott Pilgrim, the movie, before I started watching the show, just because I was like, let me just, I want to just refresh myself, get back in that world. And it's so interesting

Watching them back to back because that was 14 years ago the movie came out and everyone's voice has matured and changed so much Yeah, Michael Sarah did not sound like Michael Sarah from 2010 and yeah, it's still a great performance But it's so I was like, oh wow like they've grown up like Ramona doesn't sound like Ramona, like even though it is Mary Elizabeth, one said it's like everyone is back. It's just sure, but they've all grown. They've all grown and they've changed. That's why I'm money all for Have you ever read the books? Oh, yeah, all for AI. Oh, sorry. Did I just wait a minute? I heard you just say that Love the books. Love the books. Have you by any chance read Brian Leo Malley's book Seconds? I love it. It's a single book. Seconds.

Love. Love. Like, cannot recommend enough the book Seconds by Brian Leo Malley. I've talked to him about that because I'm like, I just love that it's just, it's a, I feel like it doesn't get it's due. I feel like Scott Pilgrim takes us so much oxygen. Seconds is great. Oh, it's beautiful, I think it doesn't get it's due. I feel like Scott Pilbering takes us so much oxygen. Seconds is great. Oh, it's beautiful.

I think that book is fantastic. And I'll throw out a couple of other great comics recommendations if you've got a second. Yeah. Graphic novel wise, Roaming, Jillian Tamaki and Marina Tamaki, who did that one summer, a book that I've talked about here that I think is absolutely stunning.

New book from them. Incredible, beautiful, beautiful book, beautiful story, beautiful art. Our friend Ed Brubaker has another edition of Friday has come out. His young detective story, story book that I think he is incredible that he's doing with Marcos Martín. Beautiful. So good. You've given me, you've turned me on to so many different things lately,

and I've really been using you as my comic book go-to. So every time that you start talking about this, I'm writing down stuff that I've done. Oh yeah, great, so good. So good. I'll say, I'm really enjoying the Chips Adarski book, Newburn, that he's doing with. Oh, I sort of mean that, yeah.

Isn't that a terrific, I think that is a terrific book. It's really good. I mean, I love Chip. Like, Chip was one of those people that I feel like, I can't remember when I found him. Maybe it was like, when it's Howard, the Duck Run, or something like that. I don't know.

And now I go out of my way to make sure, like all my, like, he's one of those guys that I always go out of my way to find. Oh, yeah. Great. Great stuff. Robert Kirkman and Chris Somnys' book, Firepower is coming to a close. Incredible story. I've really enjoyed this. And Somnys art is just, like, one issue after another, just masterpieces

in phenomenal artists. And Robert is a fine writer. He's a, he's a fine. Yeah, he's okay. Yeah. Yeah. Bob Bobby, Hollywood Bobby Kirk. He's fine. Um, Monica, the new Dan Klaus book. Wow. Incredible. And then lastly, I'll shout out, um, I'm reading, uh, because I know, uh, Tom King, the fan of the show, we're a big fan of his, we read a ton of his stuff. I'm reading Gotham City year one, his year one about Gotham City, which is fantastic. I got to check that out and I will say this. Yeah. We should let it be known that we are mad at Tom King for coming to one of our shows and

not telling us. Oh, yeah. Thank you. And I rescind this plug. Yeah. How dare you, Tom. How dare you. How dare you.

How dare you. How dare you. How dare you. How dare you. How dare you. How dare you how dare you how dare you show and not not come and say hello come on there you come on now oh by the way i would like to shout this book out simply for the art of fill hester i don't think it's written very well at all talking thank you for saying it uh... you know uh... the other thing to say i i talked about this briefly on the

discord i do have some bad news and how did this get made world talking about You know, the other thing too is I talked about this briefly on the discord. I do have some bad news in the how this get made world talking about our live shows. We have lost an episode. Okay. I'm, we talked very briefly about this over text. Yes. I am really mad. I'm genuinely angry because this show had what I thought was going to be a very real audience chant going forward,

which is no retreat and then the audience screams no surrender. So spoiler alert, that's the episode we've lost. That you will never hear and hear the next thing. The next G O storm. The next fuck the moon. The next, the next audience chant, we lost it. I mean, by the way, we still created the t-shirt, which is a play on Frazier. Like, oh, we did? Oh, yeah, the t-shirts are going to still be up. The t-shirt was made, so for everyone who was there, so you can have a t-shirt of a movie that we'll never do. But I do think like, here's the thing. And I may have talked about this before, but I'm going to go and bang this drum one more time,

just because it makes me so angry. We all make mistakes. I never, I never want to be too hard on anyone. I've made mistakes. Whatever. I will say this, the person who messed up, not only messed up, lied, said that he had done this before. Said he'd done it before, never did it before. And then- You mean that meaning recording the show. Recording the show, he's like, oh yeah, I know how to do that. Yeah, it did not, the reason why we lost it

was because he didn't do two. We always had to have a backup. He didn't give us a backup. And that's, okay, that's one thing, he lied. And then, one confronted with it, not apologetic at all. Almost downright, like, well, big deal. Wow. And that, to me, that is the only reason, like, normally, I'd be like,

you know what, mistakes happen, but I'm like, fuck this guy. Fuck this guy for, you know, just say I'm sorry. Just say I'm sorry. I mean, just like own your fuck-ups. No, no, no, we don't need that. As Jess says, our producer just says, throw him away, throw the whole person away. Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Holy shit. What a bummer. Yeah, are you doing a Christmas shopping, by the way? I know this is a little change of pace. Anything that you're thinking about. I'm thinking if there's anything that I want, I like specifically shut out. That's a good question. wish i'd thought i mean yes i i am doing christmas shopping

and i am doing christmas shopping inside of like board games and uh... card games and some fun stuff but i i haven't gotten my hands on anything yet well let me give you a card game that i think you might like it's called dutch blitz uh... i've been playing dutch blitz for years what Well, let me give you a card game that I think you might like. It's called Dutch Blitz. Oh, I've been playing Dutch Blitz for years. What? Oh, man.

Yeah, this is become a new family game. It's such a fun game. Such a fun game. So fun. Okay, well, there you go. Dutch Blitz, a great stocking stuff, for if you will. Great. It's like it's another one.

Like Monopoly deal, it's its own deck of cards. You play with a unique deck of cards, but that's all. You just need a deck of cards, and it's its own deck of cards you can you play with a unique deck of cards but that's all you just need a deck of cards and it's a super fast it's kind of like spit or war or any of those kind of very fast paste games that are over quick and I will tell you you play with my wife June Diane Rafeville and it will make you never want to play card games again because she is so aggressive she's so fast that it's like she is like she's working on I've never seen her move as quickly as when she plays these speed card games. It is it is I literally I have to like leave the room sometimes. I'm

done. I can't I can't do it. It's too much. It gets me angry. It gets me angry. It gets you angry because she's so like, it's, it's, she's so happy to beat everybody. She does it over and over again. She loves it. Well, that's the thing, I will say you're right, because that, the thing about Dutch Blitz is, it's very fast moving and there's a lot of, ha, ha, ha, ha.

Yes. As people are getting closer, you can tell when people are getting close to finishing and there is an energy that starts to happen that is chaotic. I, a hundred percent agree and it's, when you're so close, it's someone just beats you by a second, you're like, oh god damn it. It really, it really will get me, it gets me good. I love that game. Here, I'll show it out, um, a comic that has a, uh,

that I've been meaning to talk about for a long time because of its move, its recent movie adaptation, but have not been able to talk about it because of the strike, which is Andy Stevenson's book, Nomona, which was adapted into an incredible, uh, Netflix animated, uh, movie that is fantastic nama one of the book is incredible and the movie i thought was wonderful what i don't know if you're a smuritz riz Ahmed or the voices i think and it's

it's a great it's a great fantasy story it's a great uh... uh... young people story it's a great it's a great it's just a great story it's beautiful it's the book is one of my favorite books and i think it's just a it's a great, it's just a great story, it's beautiful. The book is one of my favorite books, and I think it's just a, it's also a fantastic movie. You know, I will plug one thing that I'm in, because I think it talks to something that, well, I'll just, I won't set it up too much. I did a documentary called A Disturbance in the Force,

which is a documentary about the Star Wars holiday special, which we did here on how to disget made. Oh yeah. And it gets into very exacting detail on literally how did it get made. It's made by Kyle Newman. Wow. You know, he's been around so much different great stuff,

fanboys and other things. But it's a really fun doc with all your favorites in it, you know, Weird Al and Pat and myself, a handful of people, but it's not just like look at this thing, it sucks. It really is. This is what happened. Like a deep dive into it. Oh, that's cool. I like it. And I had I got to read some of the pages that George Lucas wrote at his relation for his, the person who actually wrote the script and it's a bankers. It's so good.

Oh, that's great. So yeah, you can kind of check it out. It's on streaming now. Video on demand. Great. Oh, I love it. Yeah, that's a real fun one. That's rad.

That's cool. I will shout out a couple of things that I feel like I just think are fantastic and wish like some, you know, just to like bring attention to them. I don't know, were you much of a fan of the adult swim show Metal Occalips? Oh, yes. I saw them live.

Incredible. I saw them live too. Love, love Metal Occalips. Love the show. Did you know that he put out a movie a couple of months ago that is so fantastic called metal occlips, Army of the Doomstar? No, that, oh wow.

Exactly. Okay. And it's so good and such a blast, new music, new story. It's fucking so good and funny and just absurd. It's Tommy Blatja, yeah. so good and funny and just absurd. It's Tommy Blatja, yeah, but this is Brendan Smalls. This is a whole, this is a feature movie, great animated movie about a death metal band

that controls the universe. It's kind of, I love it. You can get it on Apple TV, you can get it all in all the different spots. I love Tommy Tommy Blatcha one of the first people I ever was like a head writer on a show that I was working on and taught me on a hide in my office when when angry people were around I will always remember that how to hide how to hide so like when they they couldn't yell at you Incredible. I will also shout out the most recent season of Starstruck came out on HBO or on Max Rather.

Rose, Rose Mata Faye was incredible, British romcom series, fantastic. I'll shout out, did you watch Extraordinary? No. The British show in which everybody at puberty gets superpowers. And it's all about, oh, it's great. It's a sitcom about like a society or a world in which

you get everybody gets some sort of a power, you know, and it's about, of course, somebody who didn't get their power. I love that. Oh, that's great. We taught, I shouted out this show before and season two just came out and I can't talk enough about it. Our beloved letter, Kenny, the spin-off show, Shorzy, season two out on Hulu now. Shorzy, season two, one of the funniest seasons of television

this year, in credit. This is so much TV, I gotta get on all this TV. By the way, this is a movie that I think a lot of people know about, but I do wanna just talk about it because we didn't get a chance to plug it. But bottoms is great. If you're not See bottoms bottom. It's it's such a funny fucking movie. It's so unique. It's so different

I mean speaking of Scott Pilgrim it it has like that kind of it's a it's a very fun Inventive cool-looking great movie. I won't tell you any more about it than just enjoy it and It's just put it on you will love it love it. It's just, it's great. Yeah. From our friends, Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald over at The Watch, I became obsessed with the British show The Gold, which is a British crime show about a real, I did not know this case, but a real case in which,

in 1980s, I can't remember, 80, mid-80s London, I think. There's a bank robbery and the bank robbers accidentally rob a bank, not knowing. They're just going to rob the vault of some millions of dollars, but instead find that there is 26 million dollars in gold there that they didn't know about. So they steal this gold. But then what, so so and that happens in the first 15 minutes of the show. The rest of the show is all about that gold and how it makes its

way in out like from their possession into by through laundering and cleaning and all of the machinations of the fences and all of the gangsters and the lawyers and all the people who touch this gold in order to get it into circulation before the police can find them. Oh wow. So it's all of these components, the police who are chasing them, Hugh Bonneville from Downton Abbey and you know it's's got great people in it. And then the gangsters who are, it's fucking awesome. It's a great show, the gold. Oh, the gold, all right, I'm on this.

This is like, this is really, this has been a good, in fact this has been a good, you know the other one you'll like, the other one you'll like because you're on the road and it's short form. Yeah. Have you watched and did you know that he's doing,

Kugin is doing YouTube like episode, I don't know, maybe it's not, I'm watching it on YouTube. Alan Partridge is mid-morting matters. They're like five minute Alan Partridge episodes that are so fucking funny. Oh, well, this is gonna plug his new book, which is about him taking over the lighthouse,

which is based on what he does on the podcast. So basically, like the premise of the book is, it's so funny. His career is over, he's being canceled, and he goes and buys this lighthouse out of spite. And he's trying to like build up the lighthouse and also get back his career. It's, I mean, like the character continues,

it's so funny, it's, I love it. Like his books make me laugh, no mad, it's so funny. It's, I love it. Like his books make me laugh, no mad, it's so funny. Oh, that's great. I didn't know he had a new book. Oh, that's cool. The new book is great. I mean, if you've not listened to the two seasons of the podcast from the Oast House,

that's what it is. So I've been listening to the Oast House. And this is like, this talks about, it's like the right, I mean, it's so detailed, because it's like, oh, I've been listening to him do it. Now, this is a book about him buying the lighthouse. It's so good, it's so good.

That's incredible. That's incredible. Yes, and obviously you gotta listen to it on tape because it's so good. It's called Big Beacon. Big Beacon is it? Oh, okay, all right, great. I'll check it out.

Yeah, it's so good. Oh my God, I love it so much. Oh, okay, all right, great. I'll check it out. Yeah, it's so good. Oh my God, I love it so much. All right, Jason, this is great. I love getting the talk on these big corporations and what they give us and how thankful we are that they are here for us. They're great. Can I just shout out a few podcasts I've been on recently

that I'd just love to throw some people towards. I was recently on scam goddess, had a great conversation with Lacey. I did an episode of the Doe Boys recently. During October, they were in costume as I saw your Joker and Batman. Yes. Well, that's what I'm gonna tell you.

The whole episode is apparently available on YouTube, and it was fucking bananas. So go to YouTube wherever wherever the doughboys are, and watch the episode, it's so fucking funny. Watch it for a loan for Mitch in a Batman mask trying to eat an orange. It's really next level stuff. And then also I was on Seth Morris, our friend Seth Morris, and Aaron Whitehead's recent new show, College Town, which is just fantastic. Well, you know, I did this podcast,

which I think you might like, it's called Die Hard on a Blank. And basically the idea is it's a movie discussion that basically is how to die hard affect this movie, right? So like everything is like die hard. So I did the, I did clear and present danger in the Tom Clancy movie, the Jack, the last Harrison Ford Jack Ryan movie. And it's really fun.

It's like, it's a super fun premise. And if you know, if you like these movies that we like, it's like, it just like kind of looks at it through the eyes of, through the eyes of like how die hard talk, you know, how it kind of brought it in, but it's also unique on its own way too. It's not just about die hard. It's great. Oh, nice. Oh, that's cool. All right. So we are there. And we'll see you next time on Last Looks. Goodbye. Ah, so fun to talk to Jason. Sorry, my audio quality fluctuated so much from there to here, but I recorded that when I was in Oklahoma City and I got stories to tell.

Anyway, we gotta wait until July until I'll tell you that story. Anyway, people, that was awesome. And if you submitted a brand new theme song for the show, if we haven't played it, don't worry. Jason and I still plan to listen to those songs, too. We're just keeping it, it's alive. It's a fluid moment right now. Anyway, now that we've talked about munchies and the dog of Save Christmas, let's talk about next week's movie. We are going from a Christmas robbery scheme to a Christmas influencer queen. That's right. Next week we are watching the 2019 Made for TV movie

of Beauty and the Beast Christmas. You have to watch this film. It is great. Short breakdown of the plot. Social media star Ginger Holiday damages her face in a freak hair dyeing accident and must restore her social media cloud by pretending to get engaged

to a bad boy influencer, bow, Bradley. Yes, you heard everything I just said correctly. This movie has zero reviews and rotin' tomatoes. So instead we will turn to sad dad on Letterbox, I love Letterbox, who says, the best part of the whole thing was the commercial breaks. Take a listen to the trailer.

Hi, I'm Dindra Holliday. She's the internet's trendiest Christmas princess. We are making homemade hair dye with peppermint and hollyberries. But when an irritating accident occurs, her condition it's going to take maybe eight weeks to heal. This bummed out beauty signs offline and her popularity plummets. People still love me when they know how I look. Whoa, their face will happen. Um, it's just an allergic reaction to some hair dye. It's not that bad.

You can stream a beauty and the beast Christmas for free on Hoopla or rented on Apple TV, Amazon YouTube and Google Play. In addition to Hoopla, I encourage you to check out Canopy. It's another digital media service offered by your local public library that allows you to consume movies, TV music, audiobooks, ebooks, and comics for free. People, I recommend this movie and just so you know, it is not the Disney classic Beauty and the Beast Christmas. This is a... This is a live action movie. Anyway, that is it for the show. Please remember to rate and review us. It helps and if you listen on Apple Podcast, make sure you are following us. Now, you can visit us on social media, make sure that if you are in the UK, you are listening

or watching or refreshing on Monday, December 11th for our big announcement and a big thank you to our producers Scott Sonny Molley Reynolds, our movie-picking producer, Averyl Halley, and our engineers, Casey Hullford and Rich Garcia, as well as Jess Znarros, who makes those amazing social media videos. We will see you next week for a beauty and the beast, Christmas.