How Did This Get Made? - Last Looks: Switch

Episode Date: September 1, 2023

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A question to meditate on, if you just like kids and dogs, does that make you a good person? Or do you have to have a kid or a dog and like them to make you a good person? While you think about that, let's prep the set. It's time for... Last looks! You called Paul to talk about a movie song. Maybe you were truly a Paul or maybe you enjoyed the film and you're a dubious all Last looks looks the last looks It's not a truth, I'm gonna be readin your last book

It's a podcast how did this get made and this is no van no show? Let's get paid the last looks looks What's the last looks? Hello all you hot tub murder witches I'm your host Paul Sheer and welcome Tadda this get made Last looks where Where are you? Get to voice your issues on the Jimmy, Smith, Ellen Barking Classic Switch.

Jason and I will answer your listener calls on the helpline. Our reveal next week's movie, plus we will share an exclusive bonus scene from our live switch show. So much stuff. But first things first, a big shout out to GoVangos. GoVangos created that amazing opening. And you know what GoVangos? Hearing that opening made me say to myself, we need that level. That kind of talent in creating a brand new How To This Get Made Theme Song.

I'm coming up with this on the spot. I challenge people to dethrone our theme song. It happened once before. Before we were keeping track of who even wrote that song. I've tried to find them. I can't. I would love a new theme song. We could have a theme song

off, maybe a new video to go with it for the live shows. I like this idea and if you like this idea, if you want to take challenge, if Go Van Goes wants to step up to the plate with all of the great musicians that have come before and after, well, I guess just before and not after, send us your brand new How To Disgit Made theme and How To Disgit Made at Earwolf.com. Go for it and still keep on making last look songs too, but go for the gold, get immortalized in some way. I don't know how you'd be immortalized,

but we'll give you something cool. Anyway, I think that would be really fun. We are gonna have a How To Disgit Made song off. Great way to start the new year. Well, the new school year. It's not even a new year. Anyway, I'm getting lost because we need to talk about Switch. Switch a movie that Discord user Elaine Smithy thinks could have been called hot tub crime machine. Boom! Boom! Nailed it! I love it! I like these alt titles. Okay, so obviously we had questions about Switch and we might have even missed a few things, right? But here is your chance to set a straight fact check us if you will. chance to set a straight fact check us if you will. It's okay. We can take it. It is now time simple directions and all missions with all your shield.

Yeah. Thank you, John Faulting. I love that theme song too. Let's go to the Discord camera and H-Rights, what annoyed me was I kept asking why him what makes this guy so special that he gets a second chance when absolutely no one else does Wow Cameron that is a I mean it's a harsh and true and Beautiful way of looking at this movie. A Cameron H. continues and says, according to God,

if it wasn't for Steve's misogyny, he actually would have been worthy of going to heaven. But all we get from the movie is one line from Jimmy Smith's that Steve liked kids and dogs. That's it. He doesn't even own a dog or have a kid. Apparently he just likes the idea of them. Yet Steve appears to be unscrupulous in business, quick to violence, and a complete shit. To literally every woman he's ever met, he doesn't even appear to be particularly religious or spiritual. Is that truly how low the bar is to get into heaven these days? I mean, you should say those days. I've been to clubs with stricter requirements for admittance. I'm just saying, based on this film, heaven could have been filled wall to wall with trash

bag human beings. Next up, Vinades. When we heard Joni Mitchell's lyrics for both sides now, it was not Joni's voice. Though while I'm sure you all knew that, I don't think the app made it clear. The version in the film was a cover sung by landed in Paul Young. Well, sure, I'm sorry we didn't lay that down explicitly, but it is a Joni Mitchell song, even though Joni Mitchell is not voicing it, but the same thing holds true. She is the right holder, so it is surprising.

And in response to June saying she hadn't heard both sides now in a movie before, Lee Black chimes in to say Joni's version of both sides now is very famously in one of Jason's favorite movies. Love actually. Oh, you're right. Like the song defines Emma Thompson's character, so it has definitely been in a movie before. And Vinadez adds to that. Johnny's version of both sides now was also famously used in the season 6 finale of Mad Men when

Don takes his kids to the brothel where he grew up. Bam, June is wrong. I'm not going to tell her that. I'll let you see her on the street and let her know. Sean McBee, one thing not mentioned was that the devil actually keeps tabs on Steve Manda throughout the entire film. Once as a customer at City Grill, twice as a piano player, once wearing a dragon, the lesbian club, and lastly as a televangel city grill twice as a piano player once wearing drag at the lesbian club

And lastly as a televanjalist on the TV while Steve Manda is yelling at smiths after he date raped or a sentence I don't even like to say out loud. Yes We didn't mention this in the live show But these pictures that you added and you can all check it out. Sean is not lying are great and that is true. All right. Let's go to the phones Matthew from Rhode Island. what do you got? Hi, this is Matthew Gabbitt from Rhode Island. You're talking about the wonderful acting of Catherine Keener

as a secretary in the movie Switch, but also didn't mention that she would then go on I think eight years later to be one of the key roles in being John Malovich, another movie about a different body experience. So just a little interesting connection with Captain Keener and the journey that she went on during two different movies like that. Yes, I mean, yes, I guess it is a body swap movie.

I never thought of it as a body swap movie. It seems more elevated. John Malkovich doesn't seem like a traditional body swap. It seems more like you're piling an airplane or something like that. But you're right. You are right. And you know what? Thank you for calling out Catherine Keener for excellent taste in body swap movies. Paul from Adelaide, Australia, Chimes in with something that sit back, relax and enjoy. Hey, Paul, just talking about the five-star review where the person said that no one was able to replicate switch. As the host of a podcast called The Softcast podcast, but we've been by me reviewing body spot movies for the last six years,

I can definitely tell you that plenty of movies have tried to replicate this formula. A couple of that paint in mind recently is this text script which does Silvence's Salone's brother and Tom Hanks's brother, which was truly fucking awful. And also a film called Damn that was directed by Mel Brooks's son, which was terrible. We call them the Sajini Swaps on our show because they keep making this film and it's a pretty terrible kind of idea that a man has to become a woman in order to actually be women as people.

So I think this trend kind of goes away because it is a troubling formula but it is one that people just keep making. So yeah, I love the show. It's a big inspiration for my podcast. So yeah, keep on the great work. Wow. Paul, this is great. I have to listen to your podcast and looking at this. looking at this. Whoa, the posters on this are wild. Wild the sex trip. Please just google the sex trip and Sam, the posters of sex trip. It's like a traditionally like glistening wet woman on the top and then like a traditionally like cut dude on the bottom separated by the title so it looks like one body and it's upsetting and Sam you're watching the transformation from a cigar-chompin bow tie wearing white dude into a woman. Now here's the thing. The bow tie

wearing white dude is wearing a suit jacket but when he is transformed into a woman, simply on the movie poster, he loses his jacket and his breasts are out. And we see maximum cleave. and his breasts are out. And we see maximum cleave. Wow, wow, wow, wow. All right, so that's 2016 sex trip and 2017 Sam. Back to the Discord GT 75 rights in the beginning of the movie, the devil points out that Steve is just going to seduce a woman again. Sorry, a female as the movie repeatedly phrases it.

And to trick her into liking him, which is why he proposes to turn him into a woman. But isn't that exactly what Steve Sasha Amanda does with Lorraine Broko anyway? I mean, the movie should have been over before even gets to confess that he's using Lorraine for the account because somehow God and the devil both forgot that Lesbian's exist. Well, look, I can argue this point a little bit because I don't think that Steve knew what the bet was, and I also don't think that he was promising anything to

her. I don't think he was trying to trick her. Do you? I think he was attracted to her as a man, and then couldn't go through with it because he was in a woman's body. Anyway, you know, you say potato, I say potato. Drupi MCC writes the character Felicia, who was one of the murdering ex-girlfriends was played by actress Victoria Mahoney. Victoria is a director of these days, helming episodes of popular shows like Grey's Anatomy, The Morning Show, and Lovecraft County. She was the first female director to work on a Star Wars movie when she directed the second unit for the rise of Skywalker. Whoa, the first female director of Star Wars movie.

Okay, from hot tub murders to cis hideout on Exigol, you never know where your life will take you. Well, that's great. I like that we learned a little bit about behind the scenes. Action. Sean McB back again says Amanda has absolutely no ID, no social security number, no birth certificate, no history of any kind yet. She can get $250,000 a year job, but the police know how to reach out to her as the next of kin to identify Steve's body. She's able to buy a plane ticket and there seems to be no issue with

putting her on trial, committing her to a mental institution or legalizing her wedding to Jimmy Smith's. One scene of her going into some shady guy for fake papers would have helped make a little bit more sense. Maybe we could have replaced the men are inherently better at sports basketball scene where Steve's female body results in his first ever loss to Smith's. I agree, I mean that was really a fucking crazy loophole, but it's a farce.

Mitch capa writes, if the baby had been born, a boy. Does that mean that Steve Sasha Manda would've just gone straight to hell? Boom, wow, you know, that's something to think about. Ha ha! So many great corrections and omissions this week, but there can only be one winner, one winner to walk away with their own song,

a song by Ashanti Dejon Cooper. And you know who that's gonna be? Yes, back again in the top spot. Cameron H. Simply asking the question, Lee all wanted to ask, but forgot, why him? So Cameron, your back baby, enjoy this song by Ashanti Dejon Cooper. Hit it! Thank you Ashanti for that song.

Check out more music from Ashanti for that song. Check out more music from Ashanti by following her on Instagram at Ashanti with an i Dejan De Jai A N N E. A Shanti Dejan. Remember, if you want to submit an alt movie tagline or chime in with your own thoughts about the latest episode, hit up the discord at discord.jg slash hdtgm or call us at 619 Paul. Ask. Coming up next Jason and I will answer, listen our phone calls on the helpline and I will reveal next week's movie. But first, sometimes at our live shows, we have multiple second opinion songs that below us away and we had

one more great song at our Switch show. We wanted to share it with the world. So, to the tune of Meredith Brooks, 1997 song, Bitch, Laura, sing us into the break. Steve hates the world today. He just woke up and his dick has gone away. I can understand how you'd be so confused. The audience is too. Is it progressive or offensive? Buckel, let's have some fun. It's a switch. He's a manda in this cringic strive against it. It's got barkin, it's got smits, and they always feel her tits. What the fuck, OMG? It's a date-repolyty! But it used the singular form of day. For this alone I stand,

won't you join with me and give this film a hand? Five stars. Laura. You're ever Laura! Amazing. How did this get me? How did this get me? Welcome back.

You've likely noticed that how did this get made every Monday. We re-release an older episode back into the rotation. This week's Matt and I Monday was a re-release of how did this get made 100th episode, the movie Junior, which like Switch featured a pregnant man. Next week, Matt named Monday will be another body swap movie, The Secret. Oh, this is a good episode with guests, Tofer Grace and Joel Kim Booster. So keep on checking out these replays of classic apps every Monday. All right, now it is time for Jason and I to answer some listener calls on the help line.

This week's help line theme comes from ourpal Rob from Long Island, I know that you can come up with how to just get made song. And also features comic book artist and musician James Colchaka on vocals. I hope I got that right James. Rob and James, play us in. So I did now my life is better than back It's actually good Jason We got some calls this week, you know, we're gonna try to cut the calls We got a lot of good calls. We got some emails as well

Scott, what do you want to start us off with? Let's start out with a friend of the pod who travels to a lot of our live shows This call comes from Chicago, Leah. Ooh, we love you. Hey, it's hall. It's Leah from Chicago, aka Chicago, Leah in the Discord. Right now I'm on an international vacation where the highlight of every day is the hotel breakfast buffet.

So I'm curious, what is your MO when it comes to luxury hotel breakfast buffet. Do you get there's a minute it opens and you stay through the whole morning. Do you go at the end and just get like you're protein and you're coffee and then you're off. So how do you attack a luxury hotel breakfast buffet when you're on vacation? Have a good one. Bye. All right. So Jason this is a good question. I'm not gonna have a great answer because I don't hit him, I avoid him. I don't either. No way, luxury, non-luggery.

If you're paying for it, yes. But if it's out of the open, a lot of times it's free. A lot of times it's included in your room and whatnot. But even still, I don't do it. For me, I almost never do breakfast period. I find myself... And breakfast is a pretty troubling meal for me, so... Yeah, you can't have much breakfast.

Yeah, so what am I gonna go down to the lobby and get a box of cornflakes? No, I'm not. Yeah, so I will say this, we did a lot of things on points on this trip, and we are Marriott Bonvoy member, which then also is like part of Four seasons so sometimes we stay at nice places and the four seasons said hey, we have a great every morning breakfast buffet come down and Enjoy it and I I was like well, it's four seasons. I'm gonna do this breakfast buffet

Got down there. I have to say breakfast buffet was great I'm gonna do this breakfast buffet. Got down there. I have to say breakfast buffet was great, but it was expensive as hell. And the woman who was serving us, I thought first of all, it's gonna be free breakfast. They said, like, come check it out every morning. It wasn't like a come check out thing.

I was like, come and eat at this restaurant, well, we'll charge you a lot. And this woman said to me, oh, I won't charge your kids the full price. And I go, thank you, because my kids don't eat that much. And the full price, which I was shocked to find out, was $60 per person.

Wow. Too much for breakfast. My kids got charged 45. Oh my God. And if I told you my kids had a half of a bagel and some fruit, that was about it. And when I saw the price, I went back. I filled my plate three more times.

It's like I got to eat breakfast. I got to make this. I got to make a $60. I can't pay that much for breakfast. I can't do it. The thing is I can't pay that much because all I I can't do it. The thing is, I can't pay that much because all I'm gonna be able to eat is like oatmeal and coffee.

Like I can. And maybe some fruit. I'm really at a loss. So, and I know this question wasn't meant for me, but yeah, I don't do. Most I do is order a pot of coffee to the room while I pack up and leave. That is something that June does in real life.

And I travel with instant oatmeal packets. Oh wow, that's smart. I should do that. See, June does something that's interesting, which is before she goes to bed, she calls in a room service order for coffee at the time that she's getting up, which has been the a genius hack

so the first thing instead of that and knowing, beep, beep, beep, beep knowing it is knock knock knock coffee sir. Yeah. No, like that. That's great. Yeah. So yeah, I kind of follow her, but I'm not a breakfast person.

So I avoid it primarily. But if you're going to give me a cookie at a double tree, I'm going to eat the hell out of that. Yeah. It's also I feel like it's, you know, a lot of times it's not worth it. I do think where it's sound, Elias said in Europe, I think that breakfast is probably a much better nicer breakfast. Absolutely, yes. Oh, in Europe, yes.

And by the way, I always felt pressure when I stated a B&B. I'm not a big B&B fan, but B&B sometimes they really pass. Heart-past. Yeah, they don't want you to eat their breakfast. And sometimes I just... They want you to hang out. I feel like B&Bs are lonely people who have extra bedrooms and are like, how can we get people here to hang with us? I don't want to socialize.

I don't have never wanted to survive or with you. No, well, I would love to watch a survivor with you. By the way, I know we can't really talk about it. We can't talk about it. We can't talk about it, but man, some good stuff on there. But, yeah, I'm not for it. Now, Scott, do you have that one email or is it somebody couldn't leave a message because they're international international waters or maybe they're in international land. Do you have international waters? Yes, international.

You should probably rescue them. We got to get them. We got to save them. Let's see. Yes. Looks like we have a call from Nick in Australia. Hi, Paul Jason and Jude. I'm just calling after a list in your re-release of Teen Witch.

And Jude and sister had this amazing insight into watching a film that I'd never even really considered. Even last time I listened that it was a teen witch episode. See, popping the cheep around the back commit to a two hour movie because their expectations are too high and I realize I love movies as well but I have that same problem. I end up not going to see movies because I don't want to be disappointed. Quite sad. I know this aren't the usual kind of

um, pull-ass questions but I thought I'd find out your thoughts on that every great day. Bye. This is an odd thing. June's sister has since changed her opinion on attention spans and movies. June's sister didn't like movies for a long time, but I always find it interesting with people don't like movies. You could not like a genre, but not to like this thing. I don't like art. I don't like music. It's it's a weird.

It's too weird. It's a weird take. It is it's a weird take. I do understand though in this era of Benjian and streaming and having so much at your fingertips all the time this idea that movies are something that seemed like a big investment like the next two plus hours or whatever but i would argue and people i feel like it been conditioned to be like who would another one who would have a kind of like another bite another bite of these shows and uh... i really like i like movies for the opposite reason because i like

that in two hours or whatever i can have a, and an end of the story and be done and feel a sense of closure and that I completed something. Like my completion rate for movies feels like, oh, that was great. You know? Yes, you know, I get that. And I think that I know the fear that this gentleman is talking about where, oh it worth my time and I making the right decision and especially when you are faced with a longer film like there's one film I want to go see. That had an intermission and I actually love that because. It gave me a chance to not like work is I've gotten so used to watching things at home I've gotten so comfortable watching things at home that sometimes I wanna have those amenities simply just being able to go to the bathroom.

I mean, that really is a big one and I don't wanna miss out on something in the field. I wonder if you feel the same way and I don't know if you interact with it the way that I do, but I was saying this just a couple of minutes ago or in fact, last week, that I still listen to the radio a lot. I love listening to the radio and processing things through the discovery of just hitting seek,

hitting seek forward and seeing where I land and what I land on and what, you know, how I get turned on to stuff. To that end, I mean, I still have cable and very much enjoy just absent-mindedly flipping through because those moments of discovery can turn you on to something. And a lot of times, especially in my childhood

or my teenage years, that is how I found incredibly impactful movies. That's how I saw Harold and Mod for the first time when I was 12 or 13 years old, and it had such an impact on me or other movies that were so massively important to me and it's, were imprinted on me through sheer accident and happenstance

and I still really enjoy that. I agree, I feel like we don't get a chance to find something and that's what my new thing has been. I try to find out as little as possible. I don't want to know. So if I am intrigued by a poster, a word, a thing, an image, I go, that's it. That's all I need to know. I don't like the idea that I know too much before I go in.

I'm not finding myself just spinning the dial, which I probably should do more. But I do find myself wanting to experiment or see things. And I'll tell you, I just saw this movie from Japan, called Shin Kamen Rider, which is. I know what you mean. Whoa! It's a guy with a bug head, is that it? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. It was fun. with a bug head. Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, is it good? It was fun.

I mean, wow. I mean, I guess it's the third in this series. But I didn't know of it. And I'm gonna go back and watch. I mean, it makes sense because there were some things I was confused about. But wow, it's fun. It's crazy.

It looks a little bit like a high level mighty morph and power rangers. Like that's what you know, and it's, but it's elevated, it's great. Oh wow, it's fun. That's great. And I will say, I feel like kind of what this question was about or what we're talking about in general

is this idea of I'm gonna sit down and watch something. I wanna know it's good. I don't wanna waste my time, or I wanna know that when I'm done with it, I'm gonna have loved it, or something like that, you know what I mean? And that I feel like is so, you're waiting, you're experienced so much against the movie, or the show, or the album, or whatever.

You're making it so that that thing is having to do a lot of work to win you over versus just pure discovery. So if that is something that you're dealing with, then I like then taking as my jumping off point, um, tethering my watching to a podcast that I'm also listening to. So like the blank check guys doing the films of Buster Keaton was to me recently an opportunity to go back and watch a bunch of old Buster Keaton and Harold Lloyd Shorts and Mark's Brothers Shorts, stuff that they were talking about

in the episode that I could then go and find a lot of it's on YouTube or a lot of stuff that I wouldn't have normally just picked up and watched because they were talking about it or because the action boys were talking about something or the doe boys or all these podcasts that intersect with things to watch, including hours and yours unspooled.

Including all of these things are ways to kind of get recommendations that you then, not only are predisposed to enjoy what you're watching, you have another, you have a second thing, a next thing that's gonna give you an opportunity to dig even deeper. You have some podcast episodes to listen to that are gonna give you even more context.

Yeah, and I love that too. I love going back and finding that time. And also, I think it expands you because you get excited about something. And even with music, I feel like after seeing Joni Mitchell or, you know, you go and you start to explore other people, other things. And you're right. I think that we should be embracing, embracing it more. Just the idea of not knowing everything

uh... you know but i'm and and and and letting things and letting our sense of this discovery or or being turned on to something like i'll say blank check right now is doing the films of park channel work yeah you know so maybe you've seen old boy maybe you've seen a couple of them but there's probably a lot you haven't seen it's a worthwhile listen and watch All right last one what do we got this next calls from Kalan in Brooklyn and this one's mostly for Jason

Ooh Jason all right here we go Brooklyn Hey Paul Jason, my name is Kalan and I live in Brooklyn But I actually just ended a four-year live-in relationship, so I am shocking up with my parents and working remotely in New Hampshire for the next couple of months while I wait for the New York City rental market to hopefully cool down a little bit in the fall. And I'm actually still really good because I've been trying to really live my best name character, New England summer,

but I am running out of ideas. So Paul and I just mostly Jason I would love your thoughts on other things I can do to make the most of my post break up in New England Summer Love the show. Thank you so much. Bye. Oh Post break up New England Summer. I mean New England Summer really can't be beat. It's pretty dynamite. You're talking beaches, you're talking fried clams, lobster rolls. Oh, so good. I had so many lobster rolls on tour. It was so delicious. Or like amusement parks, but not like the big fancy ones. I'm talking like the little dingy ones that are really great. Or like the old orchard beach boardwalk in Maine

both sketchy and fascinating and fun um Drive-in movie theaters is a don't sleep on don't sleep on big new england Drive-in movie theaters like there's one in Scarborough Maine. I can think of that to me is summer summer you know that to me like going to the drive in like that is pretty awesome and I any kind of outdoor movie theater here in in LA we've got like the Hollywood forever cemetery movies and that kind of a vibe I just like that I like being outside I've said it before and I'll say it again right here on this podcast I want

how to this get made to do outdoor shows. I love it. I would love it. I think that would be an absolute blast. So if there's a little shed near you that we can do a show in, let us know. That is great. I think we should do it. Oh, and then the rest of it, it's single, hot girl summer. So just go for it. I don't know.

You should be having both New England, Stephen steven king scary spooky go explore the caves but also like you know making out you know finding new love uh... you know new england version of nicalis sparks novels should be happening as well like where's your next time you call in who was it katelyn yes is that what it is next time you call in katelyn let us know all the mischief and fun you got up to. I'd love a Caitlin's sexy summer of fun post break up from Brooklyn

to New Hampshire. Live for your die in parentheses. Update, I want another one. Let us know, Caitlin, what you got up to because I think there's a lot you could do. Road trips. Now that it's not as hot, you could go hiking, do a little bit of the Appalachian Trail or something else, get out there, hit the water, hit the trails. Let's figure this out. I want to see what happens with her.

This is nice. Any other calls we got, one more. Maybe we'll take one more, because I feel like this is a good way to end. Here we go. All right, last but not not least we've got Chris from Boise hey Paul and Jason I was just a little while ago to your discussion about bags and

Based on Jason's recommendation I got the peak design wash pouch game changer And this thing to you Paul talk about the TOPL design that got myself a robot pack great for quick trips. The question I had is do you have any versatile shoes you recommend for travel? I use a pair of Mickey Waffle till I warm out and I'm looking for a new shoe that can be worn for a variety of things. Also, you guys should check out the album, Everyone's Dead, except for us by Wolfies just find aka John Dojo. Love John. So psyched to have him come and pop in on the Fast Ten show. Wolfies just find is great and he is always putting out really solid stuff.

is great and he is always putting out really solid stuff. I'm like just a beautiful musician. Like his, you really got to check him out. John L'Asoua, our castmate in the league has now spent the last 10 years making absolutely beautiful music. I love it. I want to just jump in real quick and just say one thing about bags. Yeah. Because first of all, I found a new bag that I'm in love with. It's the

Soulguard bag. Soulguard has a carry on that has like a pop up, like a, like a closet. And what I think this is like a roller bag. This is like a hard, a hard shell roller bag, right, which you can, you can have as a carry on. It's great. And the entire tour, I would just take out the closet part, hang it in my closet, I have my closet closed, hanging there. I have to figure out how to be better at folding.

I'm a bigger person or as you are Jason, I'm a bigger, but like when I fold up jeans, it's not gonna be, you know, I can't get I can't get a gene into, it's gonna be bigger. So that's tricky, but I will say this, shoes are the hardest part of travel. I've talked to people about shoe hacks, and as a matter of fact, because we were able to get a tour of the White House on tour,

which was amazing. You couldn't wear sneakers, and they only brought House on tour, which was amazing. You couldn't wear sneakers and they only brought sneakers on tour. And I had to go out and buy some nicer shoes. But because I knew I couldn't bring the shoes home with me, I just didn't have, if I was keeping it light the entire time, I just left them in the hotel room. I took the $40 loss. I bought cheaper shoes. But because shoes are a pain in the ass, you want dress shoes, you want nice shoes, I like workout, shoes are where I really lose my whole packing. Shoes, I agree with you completely, Paul.

And shoes can really eat up a tremendous amount of space in a bag or in a suitcase, especially, eat up a lot of space, some of which you're not gonna use that much. So for me, I try to get it down to two things, a pair of sneakers and a pair of stage shoes, or travel day shoes and stage shoes, whatever it is. This trip, both were sneakers.

I had sneakers on stage and sneakers that I traveled in during the day. And that was it, and a pair of Birkenstocks just for puttering around the room and stuff. And that's it. But I'm also like this collar on the search for a... Because normally I just bring my red wing boots and a pair of sneakers and that's it. I'm done. But the bummer is in the summer, I'm not going be wearing these boots, it's crazy. Right. So finding a summer shoe that works is, that doesn't seem to just like, I don't want to be wearing a pair of hokas on stage. Right.

But I do want to be wearing a pair of hokas everywhere else, walking around the airports, doing the rest, driving around, everything. Anyway, yeah, I'm also looking for a versatile, good looking shoe that I can wear in for different uses that's comfortable for my flat feet. Right. Well, I mean, look, I have issues that I made a big mistake, which was I decided to take high tops. I got these nice Jordan high tops and a week of wearing

those really did some damage to my above really old man talk above ankle area like I don't know back a back a like whatever it is and and I need to switch them out. It is a balance. It's a balance that I don't like having to debate because shoes make me pack heavier but you do need to pair. I wind up a lot of times just really squeezing in the nice pair of shoes. I really need three pairs of shoes, like a pair of nice sneakers, a pair of workout shoes and then a pair of nice shoes. It's really, and then you're talking, that's like one half of one side of your suitcase

just for those. And then you're, that's what like one half of one side of your suitcase, just for those. And then you're, that's what makes me crazy. Cause then I'm like, fucking, and again, I'll be like so almost packed and then be like, shit, my boots aren't even in there. Well, and this is my thing, and again, this is not, I have a larger foot. So it does, it's like, it doesn't even,

like I'm like, I'm fighting with that. Like I'm like, oh, sometimes these little feet people have it easy, it's like, it doesn't even fit. Like I'm like, I'm fighting with that. Like I'm like, oh, sometimes these little feet people have it easy. They can just, I got those little feet, but they're still full. I'm still full of shoes. It's terrible. Oh my God. But I will say like, I, you know, this trip, I, I do so appreciate and it's very nerdy. I do so appreciate being given the opportunity to be like, okay, I'm gonna call through my travel gear and pair it down. So my bags are light and I'm not overdoing it. And I think I did a pretty good job. I did a great job. June made fun of me because we went on a trip before this trip, a little vacation that we had already planned. And June's like, I can fit everything in my bag.

I fit everything into my bag. And June's bag looks like, I mean, it looks really overstuffed. It looks like a buffet plate where someone's like last call. Like, it is, everything is on there. It's busting at the seams. I try to put it on airplanes. I'm like, I'm fighting to get it in the overhead.

And I fit everything in here. And I go, well, you know, I go, I don't know how you do. You know, I'm trying to put everything in my bag. And I have, I realized I have the smallest bag in my entire family. My overhead bag was used in my own way bag. And it's so much smaller than everybody else's. And no wonder I was having a hard time, it barely fits anything.

I was on a trip, just prior to our tour, I was on like a four to five week trip that was long. So I had a backpack, a roller bag, and a duffel. And I had the new Evergood's Transit Duffel and the accompanying packing cube that goes with it. And this is a very recent release from Evergods. And boy, that Duffel is fucking fantastic. It absolutely crushed that trip.

It was fantastic. It's got like a little bit of, not a hard shell, it's got some protection. For it's not a thin, it's got some protection. It's got structure and protection. So I had like a microphone in there that we needed. I had stuff in there that was my camera, stuff that was a little, that I didn't feel bad

about throwing the bag around at all because everything felt very safe in there. Super comfortable, straps are great. Organization is great. I mean, it's just a big duffel, but it was absolutely great. I loved it. Well, that's interesting because I love my own,

I have some ever good stuff, and the one that I traveled with, you told me, that's a 35 liter one, great, great bag. Oh yeah. But the lack of pockets sometimes gets me, and this one looks like I have some nice pockets in here too. Okay. This is good to know Yeah, that's a great duffel if you like a duffel

I think that bag is dynamite. All right. I don't mind a duffel. I sometimes you need to do a duffel Yeah, all right Jason lovely chat with you lovely self everybody's problems as normal We will see you next time keep keep those gear questions keep those bag and gear questions coming everybody Thank you Jason and thank you for all who called. Remember you can call us anytime and Jason and I will be there for you at 619 Paul Ask. Because Jason and I can't talk technically about a lot of things that we watch and do because we're on strike and that's kind of against the rules I think.

So anyway, call us. We have to talk about you and we love it even more than talking about us. Now that we got switched out of the way, let's talk about next week's movie. We are going from a body swap comedy about a guy who was killed and resurrected by Satan to a body swap horror film about a serial killer possessed by Satan. It's kind of like a body swap movie in a way with Satan. That's right. Next week we are watching the 1990 horror crime thriller First Power starring Lou Diamond Phillips. Here's a short breakdown of a plot. An LA police officer and a psychic hunt a serial killer who's possessed by Satan. Rotten Tomatoes gives this film a 25% score in the tomato meter, letterboxed user Dave

P. Wrights. At one point, the ghost starts doing kung fu moves and bits. I don't remember that, but it doesn't surprise me. Anyway, let's take a listen to the trailer. The perfect career is out there. A big war. New Diamond Phillips. Crazy Griffith. You can't go on killing forever. You're on a bad, the first power. OK, we are almost to the end of the episode.

But before we go, check out this bonus scene from our Switch Show, where we answer a couple of extra audience questions. All right, your name and your question. My name is Polly. We're calling this movie very homophobic, but isn't it also incredibly progressive that God is both a man and a woman?

That God is both a man and a woman, isn't that a very progressive message? Yeah, I think it's both. Both sides now. Ah! Johnny was right to give the boom the talk. No, I think they did a lot of have your cake and eat it too. I think that the writers felt they were being both representative of women and men.

I think it's regressive by positing that there is a God. Boston. Boston. I would rather I would rather there be witches than God. Wow. Okay. No, no, as the as the driving force of the movie. I would rather they be witches than God because at least the magic makes sense versus the magic of God. Come on. What are we doing here? All right, I'm in the last row of the balcony asking a question, getting a question from someone in the second last row. Your name and your question. My name is Nancy. My question is from the movie, The Secure and the Earth. I win. I win.

I win. Happy to be here. Thank you for that. My question is, what do you call this sexuality that is being exclusively attracted to a woman in an oversized white button down who's rearranging her imaginary junk? And what are some helpful tips for coming out to friends and family.

Wow, great question. Yeah, I mean this isn't it is strange. It is the most beautiful I think Ellen Barker's ever loved in any movie and I will say. Please please watch Sea of Love. I will say I did watch the movie and think I'm watching Steve. It is a performance that you just really I did get lost in. Which and I agree with you guys when you were saying earlier like oh it was too much with the high heels, too long and I agree with you but it was the thing that kept I feel like letting, it was the physical external that allowed Ellen Barkin to continue to crush

as the male, like the steep seeping through. And I thought, I loved all of it. That as well as the holding her tits while she was running. There was a bunch of, there was a bunch of external physical stuff that I felt like helped in a way, but maybe lasted too long, but still was, I thought she did incredible. And that stuff was making the movie work for me in a way.

Yeah, and it was interesting that she did get her haircut because, and this is again, one of the sort of like deep, like psychosexual sort of, that the movie can't really wrap its mind around, but the fact that Steve in Alan Berkens body was more interested in that moment and being comfortable with short hair than being attracted to herself.

Because she had Mark. So, she kept also being like, oh, all the hair, all the hair. I hate dealing with this body and yet also I'm attracted to my own body. It was very, again, it was so, so I have a funny scene where she puts on weird lipstick. Or it has weird eye shadow. Wait, what do you mean by weird lipstick?

Like, I did the right job, client. No, I tried to shape my legs. I totally agree with you. I think there were comedic beads that bottom of the barely miss. Yes, I'd like to see her fumble with the Maxi pad. How much fun could we have had with the Maxi pad? We could have had a ball. We could have had a ball.

That's where the movie is uninterested in examining all of what it means to be a woman. The movie's not interested in that. It's uninterested in how women are perceived by men. The movie is about the male gaze from a woman's point of view who is a male. It's a male, a bargain. Oh my God.

The only good woman is a man. Stop saying that. And this is an era where body switching, this is the era of vice versa. A man with two brains. It's this freaky frat, the era of vice versa. The man with two brains, inner space. Is this freaky frat, no, freaky friday, was earlier. That's why, original.

You know, vice versa with judge Ryan Holden and Fred. Fred's the George Burns kid one. When she says, when she says, I had to blow up my hair for an hour every day. I was like, where's that scene? Yeah. And by the way, you're very talented at it, because she did a great job.

She did. Yeah, but then there's a comment about like, oh, you look weird. And she's like, I think I did too much ruse or something. And she or something like that. And she is a great. She looked great, though, which would have been, to your point, would have been very funny to watch Steve in

the body of Ellen Barkin trying to parse all of the elements of making Ellen Barkin look like Ellen Barkin. And then of course what we should have seen is Steve, the inner Steve, understanding like the labor that goes into the emotional labor. Yes, and to sort of upholding those standards. Steve! Steve doesn't even. and to sort of upholding those standards. Steve. Steve doesn't even. Paul shut the fuck up.

Paul, we don't need to hear from you right now. Yes. Steve doesn't even try on dresses to see what that experience is like. He has, is that a thing that happens in 1991 that women are at the department store getting into your outfits? Well, what I was about, how about the sales lady who gets, ah, tune in Tokyo and then just like,

and just, and just bounces back. She's like, and here's your bill. I'm like, is that the world we live in where you can just grab a woman's tips? Well, if you're another woman, I guess, honestly, you've been... Have you done that? I don't know where you are, so I'm answering this question.

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