How Did This Get Made? - Last Looks: The Fast and the Furious

Episode Date: May 26, 2023

Jason & Paul recommend all the TV, movies, music, and books that they're currently loving, Paul digs into Corrections and Omissions from The Fast and the Furious, shares a bonus scene from last week's... episode, and announces next week's movie. PAUL’S PICKS:Tom Bihn Side Hustle BagThe Traitors UKStar Trek: The Next GenerationJames Acaster's Classic ScrapesParis: The MemoirDC: The New Frontier by Darwyn Cooke  JASON’S PICKS:Tom Bihn Bantam BagColumboWhy Didn’t They Ask Evans? (2022)And Then There Were None (2015)The ABC Murders (2018)Gosford ParkDr. WhoPrime Suspect (1991)LutherBosch LegacyStewart LeeCatwoman: Lonely City by Cliff ChiangThe Human Target by Tom KingJonna and the Unpossible Monsters by Chris & Laura SamneeThor: The Mighty Avenger by Roger Langridge & Chris SamneeThe Many Deaths of Laila Starr by Ram VDungeons & DragonsThe Legend of Vox MachinaUnicorn: Warriors EternalThe Other TwoWhy Does The Earth Give Us People To Love? by Kara JacksonRat Saw God by WednesdayThis Is The Kit Go to www.hdtgm.com for tour dates, merch, and more.Follow Paul on Letterboxd https://letterboxd.com/paulscheer/HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: https://discord.gg/paulscheerCheck out Paul and Rob Huebel live on Twitch (https://www.twitch.tv/friendzone) every Thursday 8-10pm ESTSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael here: listen.earwolf.com/deepdiveSubscribe to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson here: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledCheck out The Jane Club over at www.janeclub.comCheck out new HDTGM merch over at https://www.teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmWhere to Find Jason, June & Paul:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on Twitter

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The reality is a truck theft. Next tell joins the chat and is dumb into BDSM. All this and more on today's last looks. Hit the theme! What's up all you ice cappuccino drinkers? Hey everybody I'm Paul Sheer and welcome to how did this get made last looks coming to you from a hotel room in Columbus Ohio Ohio, Columbus, Ohio, the home of where I saw FastX for the first time alone in an IMAX, a 3pm on a Tuesday and God damn! That is the way to see that movie alone in an IMAX theater. I yelled out loud.
Starting point is 00:01:02 What? I said, woo! And I literally got up and moved seats just to shake off some of the excitement I was getting by being in that theater alone. I feel like seeing FastX alone in the IMAX is the way that Jason Mahmoa's character in FastX sees every movie. You need it big, you need it loud, you need to be flamboyant in enjoying your own films. People were in FastX soon enough, but before you get into that, we are going to give you a
Starting point is 00:01:32 chance to talk about all the things that we might have missed from the Fast and Furious aka Fast and Furious 1. Jason and I are going to talk about all the things that we are into, plus we are going to reveal next week's film, which we've already given you a little bit of a hint about, and we are going to also give you a little piece of bonus scene, if you will, from our last show. But first, things first, a shout out to John Estonish for that amazing theme song. Thank you, John. Send us your theme songs. We love them.
Starting point is 00:02:00 At HowToDiscatMadeItYourWolf.com, keep them short 15, 20 seconds. You know the drill. People, are you in SAG? I know so many people are in SAG, and it's so important that you vote yes on a strike authorization. Why? Why is that important? Well, I'll tell you, residuals are down.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Actors are struggling to get their health insurance. Actors are being kicked off their health insurance. We are being squeezed, and the only way to kind of fight back here, have a voice is to give our union authorization to call strike. This is mean we're going to have a strike. But if 95% of us say, hey, we are mad enough to go on strike because we want AI rights, we want better residuals, we want better health health care that will send a message because the only thing that shuts down hollywood is the actors the writers can go on strike we've been on strike it's been tough the directors are negotiating we'll see what happens there but when sad goes on strike everything shuts down I'm lucky to be in all three unions and I think this is the moment where we can really
Starting point is 00:03:05 pull together in solidarity. So get yourself over to the SAG website, make sure you vote. As long as you are paid up on your dues, you can vote if you don't remember your number. There are ways to get it. Just go to the website, don't give up. It's so important and most importantly, tell your friends. That's right, tell your friends who are in SAG, not the ones that aren't in SAG, because, name, you could tell them about your problems,
Starting point is 00:03:27 but really, we just wanna make sure that vote goes up. So let your friends know, this is important when people and solidarity here is giant. I can't emphasize that enough. All right, but enough about that. Let's get into the fast and the Furious, a movie that according to Discord user, ASG 1982, should have had the tagline of no point, no breaks. Ooh, I like that. That should have been T-shirt. Speaking T-shirts in the T-Pub·Ak store, we have a T-shirt.
Starting point is 00:03:59 It's Mr. Potato Head, but it's called Mr. Toretto head from a joke that we edited out of the Fast and Furious podcast. And I don't think you need to know what the joke was. I think the shirt's pretty apparent in what the joke is. But if you want to get yourself a Mr. Toretto head shirt, head over to tpubbook.com slash hdtgm and you will check it out there. I love that design. We are also making because it's been requested so many times a Largo shirt, so keep your eyes out for that. But now, without any further
Starting point is 00:04:29 ado, let's talk about F and F one. Hit the theme! How did this get made? Paul Zing and Jason. He solved off last and both areas, we'll see it again. Corrections and our machines. Guess what? That's John Estonis again. John Estonis coming in to for two, uh, with a very special, fast and furious theme. John, you are killing it.
Starting point is 00:05:00 And I love that you are thinking ahead. You know where we're going. You know that we needed a fast and furious theme. So you gave it to us. Thank you so much. I love it you are thinking ahead. You know where we're going. You know that we needed a fast and furious theme. So you gave it to us. Thank you so much. I love it. All right, we're going to the Discord. Jackalope writes, I thought we all understood
Starting point is 00:05:12 that the sandwich shop was a front for their TV slash VCR Heist Crimes. That's why Mia was so annoyed when she had to actually make him a sandwich for once. No, no, no, Jackalope. That sandwich shop has been in the Tourette-O name for a long time. They didn't just make a sandwich shop.
Starting point is 00:05:27 They should have made a best buy. They can't, like, they're not, you think that they're laundering money through the sandwich shop? I believe they are still a functioning garage and sandwich shop. Again, I can't prove that. I don't think it's a money laundering place. I just think that the pay would be low. I just think the sandwiches are so bad that no one
Starting point is 00:05:52 goes there. It's like who would have like gas station sushi? That's the kind of equivalent I'm getting from there. Corgi Herder writes, just wanted to clarify something about Vin Diesel's short film, Multi-Facial. The point of the film isn't about how he can play all sorts of different races it's about how cast directors don't know what to do with him due to his multi-racial background and how he gets lost in hollywood for not being able to fit into a new box will thank you corgi herter but then b chefs rights
Starting point is 00:06:20 pericopedia stevens billburg saw multi-facial and that's how venn got his part and saving private right well here's i'm gonna say about that corgane i don't mean to be uh... root about this but i believe by saying uh... i i you know i can't fit in a box the multi-racial um i'm getting lost he's actually showing that he can be anything i think think it is, in many respects, a billboard for, hey, what am I? You decide.
Starting point is 00:06:51 But he put it under the guise of, oh, what am I? No one knows so I can't get work. Am I right on this? I think that that's the case. Maybe I'm too cynical. But I believe it was a concerted effort to get cast and basically say, I could be whatever you want. All right, let's go to an anonymous phone caller, someone who used to work for Nextile. Hi, all I'm calling about Tim's comment in your habit in the live episode for the fast and the furious. So I actually worked for Next Health
Starting point is 00:07:26 customer care at the time that this movie came out and absolutely not we could not in any way trace the number of a Next Health phone that was actually a very big selling point for the next cell phones. But after this movie came out, we would get multiple phone calls from both police officers as well as people's partners pretending to be police officers in an attempt to get us to track their phone numbers. I actually paused the episode to make this call. I just wanted to finish it by saying, I love this podcast, you guys are doing a great job.
Starting point is 00:08:13 What, this is holy shit, this is amazing. I didn't also know that like next tell was known as a burner phone. Wow, I like people fake calling as cops to get you to trace numbers. Oh, what a bunch of psychopaths. All right, next up Joel from Australia. Hey Paul, hey Jason, hey crew, this is Joel calling from Australia and the other side of the world. Just calling to point out that maybe there was a misopportunity in the furious franchise when they're running a sandwich shop wise and it called dumb subs.
Starting point is 00:08:49 So that was perfect for the power dynamic there. And I'm just feeding to the hermoralic nature of the show. So yeah, real misopportunity. Love the show guys, do it up. Bye. OK, I'm going to be honest. I didn't get this at first, and then Scott, our producer, explained it to me
Starting point is 00:09:10 that Dom's subs would be a play on the dominant and submissive dynamic in BDSM. Now I get it. I was like, is he saying like Dom's subs? Is subs like a thing for Dix? Like Dom's Dix? Now I get it. I was like is he saying like dumb subs? It's subs like a thing for Dix like doms Dix Now I get it dumb subs. That's great. And here's the thing I Google dumb subs and there's three there's three dumb subs Thank you Joel from Australia Next up linear. Hey Paul and crew this is linear. I have a correction about the fast and the serious
Starting point is 00:09:43 So there's actually like a very tiny throwaway line when Paul Walker is walking into the FBI house the really nice one was Ted Levine and he says like wow this house is a lot nicer than the last when you confiscated so I think we're meant to believe that it was like some drug operation or something that they confiscated and they're not spending millions of dollars on, still definitely a way to tax bear money somewhere in there. But yeah, just thought you guys might want to know that. Thanks so much. Bye. Yes, Lenny, I did hear that. But still, if you confiscate a house in a drug bust, it doesn't mean that you just,
Starting point is 00:10:25 you know, you're right you write, like taxpayer dollars. I mean, something's going on there. You just don't get to keep it. I don't imagine you get to keep it. Someone's got to resell it, but I get it. Yeah. I mean, I just, I feel like for them to move their whole operation in their, seems to be a bit short-sighted for what Paul Walker just have a place to drive to.
Starting point is 00:10:44 That's not his house in the cuz that's the other thing if they're following him the right who the fuck is going to that house is super expensive house like that's more suspicious than anything else in my opinion anyway linear great point next up james from sial they fall ahead in james from sial just wrapped up the uh... that's a great episode
Starting point is 00:11:02 uh... the last thinking about the uh... street wars and the other wars name and there's a total easy one that they could have done that would have been brilliant car wars it's right there it was right there for them car wars would have been amazing it could have been spot off equals
Starting point is 00:11:20 they come off by hell yeah hell yeah james uh... car wars it was right there all along but we all know that uh... vendy's a lot of changes we talked about in the show that was one of its changes
Starting point is 00:11:36 or one of the changes in the script uh... next up uh... dj from norcal they both dj tento from northern californ California I wanted to shine some light on another point break and the fast and the furious connection and that's where Paul Walker's character Brian and Vince's character Dom go to lunch that's Neptune's net on the Pacific Coast Highway
Starting point is 00:12:00 and what's important about it is that's the same place Laurie Petty's character and Quaint Break works. So there are literally scenes in both movies where the hero and the antagonist they get down to the antagonist or whatever. They both go to lunch there, like directly. Weirder fact that has to do with Neptune's net and not necessarily either of those movies, they remade the entire restaurant for i'm in three percent reason but yeah that's like one of the biggest connections between point break
Starting point is 00:12:33 and the fact that he's is uh... nettoon net which is on the pacificos highway you can still go there and get a fish talk okay i love that so let me go one step further uh... one of the shows i love on netflix right now or not right now I mean, I've loved it on Netflix is this show called Chad and JT go deep on that they actually They meet up with Jordana Brewster and they go to Neptune's net to talk to her because they love fast and furious
Starting point is 00:13:01 If you love fast and furious like we do Chad and JT go deep, they also love it. And you probably know those guys because one of their first, like pranks at one viral is they go to a lot of city council meetings and they do bits with the city council people because anyone can get up there and talk. And one of the things that they did was advocate for a statue of Paul Walker in, I believe in Malibu, or maybe I'm wrong, somewhere. But those guys are great. And yes, that is amazing. Another point break connection. And I'll go one step further. Drew Pierce who wrote Hobbs and Shaw, wrote Iron Man 3.
Starting point is 00:13:38 So it all comes back to, there's a world here. There's a fast and furious world around Neptune's net. Let's get in there. Let's figure it out. Let's do a show from Neptune's net. And finally, Julie, what do you got? Hi Paul, my name's Julie and I just called in while I was listening to the fast and furious live with Sassafrogan. I thought it was really funny that you read a second opinion review from Amazon where they called Paul Walker John Walker and didn't mention that you're Paul Sheer, but you're also Paul John Sheer. So I just thought that that was interesting. Maybe Paul is mixed up with John more than we think. Thanks Paul, have a great day.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Wow Julie, thank you. I feel seen maybe Paul and John, I mean their Beatles, their Apostles, right? They're John Apostles? Yeah, they're so, you know, they get mixed up and that's the cross I have to bear. All right, thank you Julie. Back to the Discord, Cameron H,
Starting point is 00:14:42 I was hoping you chime in. Cameron H says, my father was a truck driver later in life So I know that freight is insured against theft trust me. No truck driver is laying down their life to protect VCRs Unless you are putting them in danger first in fact my father told me the closest he's ever got to being robbed It was when he was in a large metropolitan area getting some sleep when he heard a knock on his door He answered it and there was a man there warning him that if there had been some truck robberies in the area and for fifty bucks
Starting point is 00:15:08 he was assured that nothing would happen to his cargo i asked my father what he did and he said i paid him the next morning he found that a number of trucks in the vicinity had been robbed but his was one of the few that were left alone all i'm saying is there's a much easier ways to boost merch from trucks without involving high-speed chases, grappling hooks, and shotguns. Yeah, I mean, when I was working for my dad who had a store in the Bronx, there are a lot of things that, quote unquote, fell off the back of a truck. And I don't think any of these people that were selling these things were using grappling
Starting point is 00:15:39 hooks. They definitely weren't using dodge chargers. All right, anyway, let's go to PTO707. Small question about the character of Hector. Paul said the actor's name in real life is actually Hector, but that's not true. His name is Noel. He is just commonly cast as Guy's named Hector. When Paul mentioned working with him on TV series, I assume he meant Frash of the
Starting point is 00:16:00 boat, yes I did. His character is also named Hector. He also appears in the first episode of The League, but his character is named Ernesto. You know, this is actually really interesting because I believe he was referred to as Hector on set. And we talked, we hung out a bunch. My gosh, but it was years ago.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Now I'm forgetting. Oh my gosh, now I feel like a real jerk. Anyway, let's hear because we actually have a clip of Noel talking about this issue. Because according to IMDB, he's played a character named Hector eight times on different productions. And he was on this show called The Rodeum Radio Show and he explains how this happened.
Starting point is 00:16:38 So that's just a coincidence. That's not something where I'm calling my manager and like, hey man, if I'm not Hector, I'm not doing this next film. He's filming. That's just something where I'm calling my manager and like, hey, man, if I'm not Hector, I'm not doing this next film. You film me? That's just a coincidence. Like, Hollywood only knows two names for actors, Hector and Carlos.
Starting point is 00:16:51 So the way it would work is that usually I would get a role or an opportunity for another movie or another television show. And I kid you not 80% of the time, the role and the name for the role was Hector. And I would just book the role and it's just something that kind of naturally happened on its own. It's not like, you know, I'm out there once again,
Starting point is 00:17:08 like if it's not actor I ain't doing the movie. And that's how that kicked off, bro. So it's just kind of stuck with me, you know what I'm saying? But now I like it and now I'm actually pushing it because, you know, fuck it. If I'm known that much like Hector, I'm just gonna keep that role in, you know what I'm saying? See, okay, so my fault, my bad. I don't know why I got confused about that. What we were talking about
Starting point is 00:17:29 fast eight or nine at one point. Oh, man, I feel like a real jerk. Well, I'm sorry, I know. And lastly, here's a follow-up email from Jason Kerry about the cheese pizza with everything debate from our view on the top episode. Okay, I'm glad we're bringing this back. Jason Kerry wrote, growing up in New York, when you order a slice, it's understood to be a plain cheese slice. That's the same in LaGuille and two. Yeah, sure. But when I moved to California and the rest of the country, if you just order a slice,
Starting point is 00:17:56 they're confused. You have to order a plain or a cheese slice. I guess in other places, slices with toppings must be the default. Now finally, some fucking logic to this argument. Yes, I grew up in Mon Island, but I lived in New York. I always ordered a slice. I didn't really get slices when I was on Mon Island. It wasn't really that thing, but New York was.
Starting point is 00:18:17 So now I get it. Now I get what you're talking about, because that's really the only place where I get a slice. Hmm. You're right. I guess you're right. I mean, yeah, Jason, best explanation here. And you know, you would think because Jason's kinda really have me reflect that he might be the winner this week
Starting point is 00:18:36 for the best correction and omission, but I don't know. There can only be one, right? And there's so many great ones this week. I mean, so many fantastic food conversations, so many detailed thoughts on this entire chain. And I have to say the one that I liked the most, the one that I felt really brought at home. Well, yes, the cheese pizza is a great one. I think it has to be the connection of Point Break and Fast and Furious. I would never have put that together
Starting point is 00:19:13 that fact that they did these movies, which was a rip of Point Break and they put it in the same place is even dumber and better than I could have ever imagined. So that's right. DJ from NorCal, you are today's winner. And we have a special song from Tyler Mann. Hit it. Fuck you win.
Starting point is 00:19:38 All right, if you want to submit an all movie tagline or chime in with your own thoughts about the latest episode, hit up the discord at discord.gg slash HD, TGM or call us at 619. Paul asked, coming up, Jason and I will chat about all the things that we are currently into. We reveal next week's movie and at the very end of the episode, I will share an exclusive deleted scene from our fast and furious show Stick Around. Welcome back. You've likely noticed that how did this get made every week is releasing a brand new episode on Monday
Starting point is 00:20:06 It's not a new episode. It's actually an old episode We've been pulling from the vault and this week's Matt named Monday because we ran out of fast and furious films is Hurricane Heist which is Directed by fast and furious director Rob Cohen Hurricane Heist one of our favorites Live from Chicago super fun. So keep on checking out the old episodes of the Pull Him from behind the paywall, free to hear once again. And now, honestly, we spend a lot of time here
Starting point is 00:20:33 and from you. Let's hear from Jason and I. We got a lot to talk about, okay? Here's a little segment we like to call, just chat. And Mark Ranger likes to create songs for us. So Mark, hit the theme. Jason, I feel like it's been a while since I've really heard what you've been watching and been up to.
Starting point is 00:21:10 We've answered questions, but we haven't really gotten into our wrecks. Let's dig in. Yes. Ha. By the way, I wanted to ask you a question. Go. Not to make this another bag talk, but Tom Bin has this new bag that I really liked and I wanted to ask you a question, not to make this another bag talk, but Tom Bin has this
Starting point is 00:21:26 new bag that I really liked and I wanted to get your opinion on it. I believe it is called the sidekick. Have you seen this? It's kind of like a larger version of like a traditional fanny pack. Oh, the side hustles, what I was interested in. Side hustles. Let me, I don't know that, let me, I'm looking it up right now. Okay, yeah. It's like a square, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Okay, so I haven't seen this bag yet, but it looks like, it looks like a slightly larger version of one of their cubes, one of the little cubes that you could, that I use. So this looks cool. They have a thing called the Bantum though, that is like a sling bag,
Starting point is 00:22:08 like a small fanny pack or sling bag that I like a lot. I think that's pretty great. The one that you gave me, and again, we're not gonna get off on bags, but the one that you gave me, I can't remember if it's a state bag or not, the one that you often use. The hyper light.
Starting point is 00:22:24 That's my thing. Yeah, that to me is hard to beat. Hard to beat, you often use. The hyper light. That's my thing. Yeah, that, like that to me is hard to beat. Hard to beat that. Great, fantastic bag. Love that bag. It's a great, it's a great, it's very lightweight, holds a lot of stuff, minimal organization. It's a killer bag.
Starting point is 00:22:38 I love it. I love it. I love bags. What can I say? Just a little brief glimpse of Zooks cubes here. I love it. Zooks cubes always going on now Let's talk about TV. I feel it. There's been a lot of stuff TV movies. Yeah, there's a lot of a lot of stuff out there What have you been most excited about? There's been some fun stuff. I'll say this. I'm I loved poker face so much Oh, yeah, you know I loved poker face so much. Oh yeah, you know, I loved poker face so much.
Starting point is 00:23:06 It had a great time watching it and it really got me in a, oh, I like this, you know, type of a show. It really got me feeling so, you know, the same way that I love watching Magnum PI reruns. So I've watched a bunch of, um, uh, Columbus, which are great, which, you know, are also on peacock. If you got to peacock for a poker face, but then I got super into watching a bunch of
Starting point is 00:23:32 Agatha Christie adaptations, um, Oh, like the old PBS ones like that. Like some. So like, so I watched like murder on the Orient Express, the Sydney, Lumet version, uh, That is an incredible movie. But there is an adaptation of an Agatha Christie story that I did not know, called Why Didn't They Ask Evans? Is the story, Hugh Laurie wrote and directed it. It's a three hour movie that's on, you can stream it.
Starting point is 00:24:00 I watch it on, I think on Britbox. It's Will Polter from Who's in Guardians 3. Lucy Boynton, I mean, obviously Hugh Laurie, a bunch of other great incredible actors. And it's just a fucking home run. Who done it? Agatha Chris. Is it a TV? They're listening as a TVC.
Starting point is 00:24:20 It is. Okay. It's like a three hour, it's like a three hour, three episodes. And then this is a model. I also watched one that was, and then there were none, which is another. Oh, I love that book. And so this is a great, it's got Charles Dance, and it's another Sam Neal, another home run, great cast, great great beautifully shot. They're just is a bunch of them that I've
Starting point is 00:24:47 been watching that are on the summer on Amazon summer on a Brit box. They're they're all over the place, but they're fantastic. One of them has John Malkovich playing Poirot. Wait, I think it's called that one's I think the ABC murders is that one? Okay. It's really cool. And all of them just truly stand as incredible examples of this form, especially when you compare them to what I did not very much enjoy, which has been the Kenneth Branagh recent adaptations of these stories. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:25:24 I feel the same way. Yeah. Those I feel like I have not been as interesting, not nearly as interesting as this. And then to back up one full step, I also just recently rewatched Gossford Park, which is absolutely incredible, absolutely incredible. Now that I've forgotten about that movie or I've not forgotten about,
Starting point is 00:25:47 but I haven't seen it in a long time, but I love it. And oh, that's a great one. Please watch it. Okay. And it's, the cast is absolutely bananas. And then Bob Ballaban is, it's all murderers. It's all everybody's a murderer in it. It's so good.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Everybody's such a, like a totemic talent. And then Ballaban is in there just mixing it up and being so fucking funny inside of this movie. It is, the movie is exceptional. Well, by the way, you're talking about this and I've heard so much about this show I'm gonna mention right now that seems like it's in the same band, if only watched like the first two episodes, but I gotta so much about this show I'm gonna mention right now that seems like it's in the same vein.
Starting point is 00:26:25 If only I watched the first two episodes, but I was like, I gotta tell Jason about this. Have you heard anything about this show called The Traders? Yes. Traders UK? Yes, which is... I heard about Traders UK. I know what it is, but I have not watched it. Yes.
Starting point is 00:26:38 So essentially, it's a reality television series, which is essentially like Gossard Park in a way like could you make Gossard Park into a reality series where people are back stabbing and picking off contestants and they have to investigate and find out who they trust and root out the traders among the group people. It's like where we'll form mafia, the party game. Yes. Right? That's how it was explained to me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:07 It's basically like, it's 22 strangers and they are, they have a bunch of missions that they have to do. And this goes back to the show. I always wanted to pitch, which was kind of a version of what alone is, but I wanted to do die hard, the reality series. Could you do it? Could you have one guy try to get through a building in every week You try to see how far you can get what you could do that would be incredible. I love that
Starting point is 00:27:30 I just because it would be a different kind of survival, but this is it has that same Energy and I think what I like about this show and it's hard to kind of communicate it It is tense and it and it's like a drama. It doesn't play like a reality show. And I think that's what makes it really very, very good. And specifically, my understanding was, because this is a show that exists in multiple places.
Starting point is 00:27:57 And I was told the season to watch is Trader's UK specifically. That's the one that I started watching. Okay, Yeah. And I believe in person who I trust. Who's recommended this now? And I think the one there's another version. I believe on peacock if we're going to go back to peacock with with Alan coming. Oh, nice. Hosting it. I'm not positive. But it's like it. I believe that he is the Yeah, nice hosting it. I'm not positive, but it's like it I believe that he is the American the American host, even though he's not American. Yeah, but uh, yeah. So, uh, oh, yeah, I think you will really like I gotta watch your on this. Yeah, that's great. And there is something interesting about like going back and watching these old shows because I
Starting point is 00:28:38 I know I talked to you how much I love Picard season three. Oh, yeah, I went back and started watching just random episodes of Star Trek's Next Generation. And being like, this is, I mean, again, I haven't watched it since I was a kid. Is this is such a great show? Again, another really fun, one and done style show where you just have great stories and, you know, and, and, well, that's what was fun. What I really was enjoying about poker face
Starting point is 00:29:04 and what I feel like I then wanted to have more of, which was TV. It felt like a, it felt like just the, it felt low stakes. It didn't feel like I needed to know two seasons of canonical storytelling so that I can appreciate and understand what's happening in this episode. It felt nice to just dip in, have a fun episode, and then be gone and be done and not have to really not be in the middle of some sprawling dense narrative, but just be having a like
Starting point is 00:29:36 you said, a good time. And for me, that has also been watching Doctor Who, which is, and this is what I got to do. I just absolutely fantastic. I'm now in the Matt Smith years, for those of you who are keeping track. David Tennant, just, I mean, it's so interesting to to watch, Dr. Who, because if you're watching from these early years going through it,
Starting point is 00:30:00 you're also getting to see an entire generation of, or multiple generations of British actors cycle through episodically this show. So that's something where a ton of people like more than or I guess maybe they were ahead of the curve in the States. It's like like you could see great British actors appearing on television. It's like there's less and less of a separation between TV and film because there's barely any film anymore. Like it's like, there's less and less of a separation between TV and film because there's barely any film anymore. But I feel like that's what you get with these British shows.
Starting point is 00:30:30 It's like, oh, everybody is in it. The same way they're in Potter. It's also like over there, every big star, boy do I wish this was true here, everybody there, I feel like in the UK, at some point in your career, somebody just offers you. Do you want to be a detective on a TV show?
Starting point is 00:30:48 Oh, yeah. Like every, if you like anybody, they are the star of a detective series. So also, I've also been rewatching Prime Suspect. Great. Helen Marin Prime Suspect. I'll show that, you know, another show that traversed decades of content that is incredible. Great mysteries, great, you know, Luther fantastic. Oh, Luther's so good.
Starting point is 00:31:08 I have not watched the new Luther. I've heard mixed things about it. I haven't watched that yet. It's a bummer because I think the thing I loved about Luther while so dark and I found a lot of people that I've recommended to you say, I can't watch this, it's too depressing because I think the crimes are really violent. And they're very sadistic. And it's not like, look, it starts off with him chasing down, you know, like a pedophile.
Starting point is 00:31:31 That's where it starts. And there's a great Luther book. If you like Luther, that's the prequel to it. And it basically ends where the season one begins. But in the attempt to kind of keep it dark and push and have reality in a world where there's hard to have reality, they get Luther into some scrapes that gets harder and harder to get him back out in the world. It's like, it's like a little bit like it's the reality of like if you acted
Starting point is 00:32:01 like Dirty Harry or you acted like an American police officer like there would be consequences and there are Consequences for Luther. Yeah, and then they have to like really figure out. Okay. Well, maybe we let him out of jail He could work this one case and then he's back in his jail It's a very bizarre like crazy. It's like it's like what if you took Bosch and you made it like 10 times crazier Yes, and that's another I'm watching by the way watching Bosch and you made it like 10 times crazier. Yes. And that's another way. I'm watching, by the way, watching Bosch Legacy. Now I've watched all of Bosch and now I'm in Bosch Legacy. I love it.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Is a home run. How does this get me? How does this get me? Hey, by the way, just to keep the British thing going, not the Bosch is British. I had done this guy's podcast, James Acastor, his podcast. Incredible stand up. Such a funny funny standup his specials are fantastic
Starting point is 00:32:48 I'm a little behind on him. I didn't know that much about him and He I started reading his book called like classic scrapes. Oh, I don't know it. Oh, it's um So basically he was on a radio show with his friend and part of the radio show just became like his funny stories about his life and he compiled these very funny short weird stories. His classic scrapes that he's gotten into you know whether it was like there's a great one that I really enjoy which is like he uh. He had keys to his friend's house, and he had to really take a shit. And he uses those keys to go into our house because he knew she wasn't home. And he went to go do his business, but realized there was no toilet paper in the downstairs bathroom. And he already had his pants off because he was going to the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:33:41 So he ran to the upstairs bathroom to go get toilet paper, but then realized he was in the upstairs bathroom. He had no pants on. And then he's like, if anyone's to come home right now, I'm gonna be naked in this woman's house with nothing on and have to explain. And so like this, like that's a classic scrape. Like describing, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:58 how he gets out of this situation of pooping. You know, so it's like that level of story. It's not really a memoir as much as it is. It's just a bunch of funny anecdotes. Yeah. Oh, that's great. Oh, I really like him. And you were gonna say, you were on his podcast, it's about last meal, what's it called? Yes, last meal.
Starting point is 00:34:14 So you kind of like pick a last meal that would be really good to have. And man, oh man, he is. Super funny, man. Really, really, he's got a couple of specials that are all linked that are I want to say it's on HBO. Yes, I watch them. He kind of released him like a true, like a true, like a true, exactly. Yeah, exactly. He's a very, I mean, like I'm, I'm now all in on it. I will also say he's a great British stand up. The other way, the other British stand up that I
Starting point is 00:34:40 really love is Stuart Lee who it chases down if you can who is just very difficult to find. He makes it, I will say this, he makes it very difficult to find his stuff. Okay. Um, but so it's not easy, but the stuff that you can find is fantastic. And I've now kind of ferreted out a bunch of other stuff. Very cool. Okay. I, uh, okay. I'm very interested to see this. Yeah, I love this. I've been, we both are book on tapes fans and I will say I read Paris Hilton's book. Oh, how was that?
Starting point is 00:35:14 And great. Oh, wow. Great. I didn't see the documentary on Netflix, so I'll put that in front of it and saying that I think the documentary covers a lot of similar territory. Okay. But I got it on tape and or tape. I got it on tape.
Starting point is 00:35:29 I put it in a CD. It's six cassettes. You know, an audio books were like 12 cassettes. Oh yeah, and you could rent them from like a cracker barrel. Crackle barrel. I remember on road trips, you would rent them from cracker barrel. Yeah, and you could have a reason to go back. Yup.
Starting point is 00:35:46 The size of your delicious food. But so, you know, it starts off and you are like, okay, it's a little like exactly what you expect. And it kind of just like, it just kind of frost the cake to be like, okay, well, I'm here, I'm here, I don't know. And I turned it off a couple times. But everyone kept on talking about how great it is, how great it is. I'm like,, I'm here. I don't know, and I turned it off a couple times. And but everyone kept on talking about how great it is, how great it is.
Starting point is 00:36:06 I'm like, I don't know, is it? I don't know. And then Jason, it switches to a point where you're like, I was riveted. And it really revolves around, for lack of a, to just abbreviate it as much as I can, she's a bad girl, gets sent to a very rich Sleep away school boarding school that's going to correct the bad behavior and rich kids and
Starting point is 00:36:34 it is In incredibly abusive place where essentially it has been shut down because they compare the torture that they gave to these kids Like like the torture that you would get as a prisoner of war. A torture that kids died from the things that they, at the school, and it was covered up, and it's all been now found out. It is harrowing, and she was there, and what it did more than anything.
Starting point is 00:37:02 Her tenacity through surviving this is otherworldly. I mean, like the things that she described in that book, what they did, they, one of the things that they did was every night, they would basically have like, I forgot what you called up, but I'm going to call it a shit talk circle, where you all sit in a circle and then each kid takes a Turn ripping you apart Oh, and and and saying how much of a piece of shit you are and that was that was that was that was part of their Nightly nightly
Starting point is 00:37:40 To rip these people apart until and the and they wouldn't move on to the next kid until you broke down. That's honestly that sounds like something like from the 40s. You know what I mean? Yes, that seems like crazy that you're telling me that's from you know 15 years ago or whatever. Yeah, you know. And she like she escaped and she has these amazing stories of escaping. It is it is wild. And especially like after doing some research afterwards
Starting point is 00:38:08 about it, because I was just like, what is going on? And you know, it's like, it's honestly like real life Matilda, like you know, like on a level, but more fun. She was only being a little bit naughty. But I just found the book to be very well. Very interesting, very interesting book. I'm really well written. And yeah, so that's a highly recommend.
Starting point is 00:38:33 I like that. I'll stick, I'll stay in books for a minute and I'll shift slightly to comics. Oh yeah. It's been a while since I've, it's like my, I don't know if you're this way, but like my comics pile has just been getting bigger and bigger and I've been letting it get bigger
Starting point is 00:38:47 and I haven't been reading as much. But so in an effort to kind of make a dent in it, I read a bunch of stuff in the last couple of weeks, a couple of things that I just thought were absolutely fantastic. Please tell me, because I've gotten in a weird zone where I haven't wanted to read lately. I don't know why I haven't wanted to read it. I gotta get it.
Starting point is 00:39:03 I gotta get it. Yeah, sometimes you get out of it and sometimes you know, but there's been some really great stuff Cliff Chang who drew paper girls. Yes, the book paper girls wrote and drew a Catwoman story called catwoman lonely city that is fantastic. Oh, okay It's it's one collection one story. It's like, you know, in the catwoman, it's a crime-caper story, not unlike Ed Breubaker's run on catwoman, except this has just the incredible art that Cliff Chang does that is just, I find so compelling and so riveting. Oh, you know, Tom King, who we've talked about many times on this podcast, who is a listener
Starting point is 00:39:51 through you, Tom King, wrote a book, you know, he did Mr., Mr. Miracle. He did strange adventures. And last year he did a human target, which was a book he did with Greg Smallwood. Did you read this book? I did, yes. Loved this book. Loved this book. Yes.
Starting point is 00:40:12 So I just read that whole thing, which was fantastic. Really, one of my favorite. Again, another detective street level crime story inside the DC universe inside, you know, Justice League International Century. And by the way, just so you guys know, the, both of these books, I was just looking at it online, are the collections are in hardcover right now too. Yeah. So you can get the, you know, the human target one, you can get Lonely City all together
Starting point is 00:40:38 and they are, they are finished. They are done. So when you get, it's not like one of those, oh no, and Moore's coming, you can read these stories in their entirety and they're terrific. They're great. Are you reading, are you reading digitally or you stick to the old school?
Starting point is 00:40:55 It depends on what it is. It depends on what it is. So I'm reading now, I've segwayed a lot of my, a lot of the books that for me, like Marvel and DC, books that I just wanna be, like keep up with, Daredevil, Dr. Strange, fantastic for. I no longer get issues, I read digitally. I still get, any book that I feel like the art is part of what I want in it.
Starting point is 00:41:28 Yes. So Greg Smallwood, Cliff Chang, you know, Mitch Garrads, when there's a Mitch Garrads book, another person that I'd like to just offer an opportunity to eat absolute shit. These I will buy those books, Chris Somney, another book I was going to put on there that for I wanted to mention specifically to you because it's an all ages book. The book is called Johnna. Johnna and the impossible monsters, they just finished. It's Chris and Laura Somney.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Chris Somney, iconic Daredevil run, like draws the Robert Kirkman book, Firepower right now, incredible. One of my favorite artists right now, beautiful Ollie just book that's fantastic. He also did, you should also get for the boys, his Thor book, which is called Thor, this is years ago, it's another Ollie, it's an Ollie just Thor book.
Starting point is 00:42:22 And it's called Thor, Thor God of Thunder, it might just be called. Okay, I'm looking at it right now. Yeah. It's the one that Chris, it's S-A-M-N-E-E, Somnie. The Midea Avenger? Yeah, that's it.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Thor the Midea Avenger, that's yeah. That's great, oh, I love that. Ooh, these are, yeah. And then I'll shout out one more comic that I read that blew my mind, but mostly because I went into it blind And it's the many deaths of Layla star And it's written by Ram V and drawn by incredible artist Felipe Andrade
Starting point is 00:42:58 Incredible beautiful heart-breaking book really wonderful story. Oh, wow. Okay. This is great Oh, no, you're giving me some stuff that I'm like, I'm looking forward to next time. Yeah. And these are all collections that are done. These are stories that have a beginning, middle, and an end. They're not ongoing. So I love this because I just recently went back and reread the DC, New Frontiers, the DC, because I had, when I was a little bit of James Gunn
Starting point is 00:43:27 talk about what he wants to do with DC, I was like, it sounds like New Frontiers. And I posted that and he retweeted it. Oh, wow. And people got very excited about that. That's cool. And that makes me. Oh, maybe I'll do that.
Starting point is 00:43:40 Yeah, because it was a fun way to go back and look at it. If that is going to be the blueprint, I don't know. You know, for some rumors about the new Superman that may feed into this. So there are some things about it that are interesting to me. And it's, I will say like there's been a number of like subsequent to that. There's been a number of like lists and suggestions of what to read and what to, what to maybe be thinking of for what to be reading in preparation for the new DC stuff. Yes. And there's a lot of good stuff inside of all those
Starting point is 00:44:12 lists that I feel like is pretty good. Some good reading that people can do. I think this is, yeah, I like kind of hypothesizing and we're going to have, oh, by the way, it's going to be even delayed a little bit more than we even imagine because of the writer's strike right now. Oh yes. And the, you know, so. We are on strike, baby. We are on strike. I saw you out there.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Yeah, go ahead. I was out there. I wanna ask you, did you see anybody fun that you got excited about the sea? Yeah, I was like, because obviously, writers, you know, we both write. We know people, but sometimes every now and then you get to see somebody on a writer's and you're like,
Starting point is 00:44:47 oh my gosh, that's so and so. And I, you know, I did, I haven't yet seen any. I mean, I will say what I have seen is like old friends. Like I'm running so much a lot of people that I've delighted to be catching up with, especially after, frankly, many years of not seeing a lot of people, you know, like that has been the best has been the best part of it, just even bumping in, yeah, just people who are busy.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Yeah. Like, you know, that's it. So that's been fun, but there hasn't been anybody that I'm like, oh, cool, you know, excited to talk to David Simon or something like that, you know, like I got to meet Patrick Schumaker who, who runs the Harley series with Justin Alpern, and I just got to geek out with him. We got to talk to the floor. I love that show.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Oh, it's so fun. And I want to thank you. I'm sorry, Dave. I know we're talking about the strike, but thank you for making sure to put Dungeons and Dragons on my radar. Oh, yeah. Boy was it fantastic. I'm not free to stream.
Starting point is 00:45:44 So you can get that now. So you can watch it now. It's so good. It's so good. I'm now free to stream. So you can get that now. So you can watch it now. It's so good. It's so good. I absolutely loved it. And then I will then shout out another show that I really love, which is the legend of Vox Machina, which is the critical role people. Yes.
Starting point is 00:45:59 And that is another Dungeons and Dragons ask. It's an animated narrative. And it's a blast. They're really, really fun. Really fun adventure show. Yeah, and that's with Sam Regal, isn't that? It is. Sam Regal, great improviser and also did a lot of cast directing for VoiceWorks, some of
Starting point is 00:46:17 your favorite voices. He's a voice director. Yeah, great. I've worked with him a bunch of the voice director. He's great. And it's a really fun show. Another show that I want to shout out just because it's fucking incredible.
Starting point is 00:46:30 And I think that I feel like everybody reveres Gendi Tartarckowski has such reverence for him. And he is obviously an incredible, you know, absolute genius. And I feel like people slept on his show Primal and now he has a new show out called Unicorn Warrior's Eternal that there is- No, I didn't even know about this.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Exactly. That's what I mean. Somehow, like a true, like, like, author of this medium is doing stuff that people, like I don't think people know there's a second season of primal and I have heard so little about this new show, but there's only three episodes so far and it is so beautiful and so Incredibly done and so dynamic. I urge everybody to watch unicorn Warrior's eternal. It's great. Okay, and I'm gonna tell people where they can watch that because that will be on us
Starting point is 00:47:28 I'll make sure I give you the end by the way. He is behind behind things like Clone Wars and samurai Jack and Dexter's laboratory like he's been around and around and around the hotel transylvania movies Where can I find this I'm looking for I'm now even on his website. I'm having our time figure out where exactly I think it's a I think it's a cartoon network show. So that means it's on Paramount HBO max. Yeah max I think it's max max now. Yeah max Okay, this is great. So yeah incredible and and I'll shout out also returning for a third season I also only a couple of episodes in, but so far, bulletproof season, the other two. Whoa, I didn't know about the, oh man, yeah, you're getting,
Starting point is 00:48:12 like this is, yeah. And incredible show. Incredible show. See, look, this is what happens. I don't even know, and I get overwhelmed, and then I, and then I watch a Star Trek, and then I feel good about myself, because I'm like, I did something,
Starting point is 00:48:22 and then, and then I'm back in this boat again I'll leave you with two music recommendations. Okay. Just because it's been a minute Arguably for me it's gonna be hard to beat this album as album of the year for me, which is Kara Jackson's why does the earth give us people to love? Oh an stunning collection of songs. Incredible record. And then also great record from a band
Starting point is 00:48:49 that I absolutely adore Wednesday has put out a record called Rat Saw God. And that is a fantastic rock record. And then one of my favorite bands in recent years, this is the kit, have started putting out new songs, but their record has not come out yet. Or maybe I don't know when this episode is dropping, maybe the records out now, but the songs they've put out so far, fantastic. This is the kit, the record they put out a couple of years ago, one of my favorite records of that year,
Starting point is 00:49:17 absolutely fantastic band. Oh, this is great. All right. I've now just written down a million things. And you can also always check up on what we are recommending on the Discord page, go to discord.gcashhttgm and you can see a compiled list. Put it all in the show notes too. Oh yeah, we get all the show notes. If you're already listening, just click on the thing you're with a, oh, we do it, says.
Starting point is 00:49:36 Yeah. Great, if it's all in the show notes, it's right there. So you don't have to write it down, you don't have to furiously be scrambling guys. Just click on the show notes and just, I'm looking for the kit, I'm sorry, I'm looking for the kid. Oh, let me see. I mean, I have to go on the artist. Oh, this is the kit. Okay. This is the kit. All right. That's it. I'm into it. Jason, what a pleasure. We will talk again soon. Absolutely. Bye.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Thank you, Jason, for chatting with me. Now we got fast and furious out of the way. Let's talk about next week's movie. We are going from the beginning of the road to the end of the road. Well, kind of. It's more like part one of a three part end of the road. It's going to be a long end of the road. I mean, there's road is like the runway and fast five or six where the plane would just kept on going and I'm going and going. Anyway, we're going to be watching Fast X.
Starting point is 00:50:22 That's right. Fast X, part one. Here's a short break X, part one. It's a, here's a short breakdown of the plot, okay? And God knows, for me to even compact this and do a sentence as wild. But Dom Toretto and his entire family are targeted by the vengeful son of drug kingpin, Herman Rays, that's right, the bad guy from Fast and Furious 5.
Starting point is 00:50:39 He was there the entire time, we didn't know. Rod Tomatoes gives his film a 54% on the tomato meter. What? That's ridiculous. Allison Wilmore from Vulture says a decent diversion, though watching it feels like sustaining a head injury. Allison, how dare you. Anyway, take a listen to the trailer.
Starting point is 00:50:55 I have a dominant thread over. You destroyed my family. And now you'll have to watch who you love most time. He's coming for you with everything. What's the plan, Dom? I'm not sure anymore. This is your last ride. You read one mistake. You never took my car.
Starting point is 00:51:18 You read PG-13, only Peter's main 19. So here's the deal, people. We don't do this a lot, but we do it 19. So, here's the deal, people. We don't do this a lot, but we do it every now and then. You can't stream this, unless you do it illegally, which I don't recommend. You gotta go to the theater, you gotta see it. And we gave you plenty of time to go see it.
Starting point is 00:51:35 It's gonna be full of spoilers, it's gonna be great. We cannot wait to jump in your souped up, Honda Civic, get to yourself to a theater. And next week we will break it all down. We are almost to the end of this episode. Before I go, let's check out a bonus scene from our Fast and Furious show where we did answer an audience members question about the time of Brian and Mia's dinner date. Take a listen.
Starting point is 00:51:57 All right, your name, sir, your question. My name is Luke. I want to say first, I'm a United States sailor, and I would listen to you guys underway on deployment and it really made a lot to me. I just, just thank you. Thank you. Very cool. So, my question.
Starting point is 00:52:12 Thank you so much. Thank you. Now, do you use any nods on your boats? Great question. Every day. Yeah, that's the military have access. That's not the way it's special. That's not the way it's special.
Starting point is 00:52:21 Oh, is there military snows? Is there any kind of, is there art? Is there any kind of military grade nuzz? Frighteningly amount, frightening large amounts. So my question is, I'm not from LA. You're a sailor. That's the wedded snows. My question is, I'm not from LA.
Starting point is 00:52:41 I don't know your culture. I don't know how things are. So there is none. Don't worry, there's nothing in it. If someone asked me on a first date to go to Cha Cha Chas, at 10 p.m., I would respectfully try to change that. Is it my wrong in this? Is it too late? I mean, I don't even know how to answer this is.
Starting point is 00:53:02 I like a late dinner. I like a late dinner, but that does seem like too late to start dinner. That does seem too late, especially for LA. Especially for LA, but I am a small, that's not a culture. No, who's the Cha-Cha-Cha's? Here's what I will say.
Starting point is 00:53:16 Okay. Here's what I will say. Mia has a late shift at the tuna sandwich shop. So that just might be what she gets off work. Dom, I gotta go to school. You stay here so the sandwiches can't just be good. But I want to go to college. You make tuna. Well, great point. Thank you. Oh, wow. All right. What else do we have here? By the way, that date is the worst birthday. Can I just say, Paul, boy do I like the idea of you on a boat
Starting point is 00:53:44 somewhere listening to us talk a bunch of nonsense? Thank you so much, man. I was gonna say that date was such a bad date because he asks her nothing about herself. He's like, so tell me about your brother. And how does he know those guys? And like, tell me how the- Tell me how a lot of VCRs around.
Starting point is 00:54:01 I can say I wanted to say it again, your brother like a DVD. He's... Ryan is bad at being undercover. And they are... They are bad cops! And they're not suspicious enough. She should be like, wait a minute, aren't you a cop? There's a part where the cops are like, the guys from DC are coming and we got nothing to show.
Starting point is 00:54:19 And it's like, yeah! You're terrible at this! That's it for the show. Remember to rate and review us. It helps. And if you listen on Apple Podcast, make sure you are following us business on social media at HDTGM. And remember, our summer tour is coming up right around the corner.
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Starting point is 00:54:46 You could bonkers and a big thank you to our producers Scott Sonny and Molly Reynolds and our movie picking producer Avril Halley Make sure you check out her YouTube channel where she does so much great work so many funny shows there our engineer Outskinsaws our publisher July Diaz and Jess is nero's who makes our amazing social media videos We will see you next week for FastX. Get away. Get away.

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