How Did This Get Made? - Last Looks: The First Power

Episode Date: September 15, 2023

Jason and Paul answer listener calls and reminisce about old sitcoms, Paul digs into corrections and omissions from The First Power, shares a bonus scene from The First Power live show, and announces next week's movie. Go to www.hdtgm.com for tour dates, merch, and more.Follow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer/HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheerCheck out Paul and Rob Huebel live on Twitch (www.twitch.tv/friendzone) every Thursday 8-10pm ESTSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael here: listen.earwolf.com/deepdiveSubscribe to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson here: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledCheck out The Jane Club over at www.janeclub.comCheck out new HDTGM merch over at www.teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmWhere to find Jason, June & Paul:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on Twitter

If you're in LA, visit the stallhouse, but when you do, make sure you're standing in a right side-up pentagram. We'll get into all the reasons why and so much more on today's episode of Last Looks! Prices, please! Hello my buddy boys, I'm your resurrected demon serial killer Paul Sheer aka Tall John and welcome. How did this get made? Last looks with you, the listener. Get to voice your issues on the first power. Jason and I will answer your

listener phone calls and we will reminisce about some forgotten TV shows. Plus, as always, I will reveal next week's movie and at the end of the episode I will share an exclusive bonus scene from our first power show live in Boston. First things, first a giant shoutout to AC Gravy for that opening theme, AC. I love it. And you've inspired me and I continue to sound the bell. Ask you to pick up the gauntlet. Get in the ring and submit a brand new How Did This Get Made theme song. We are looking to just spice up the show.

Maybe we will find a winner that will replace the amazing song that we have. I mean, we love... We love the song that we have, but maybe it's never something new. Or maybe we could just rotate it. I don't know. Send us a song. Convince us that we deserve a new theme song. Alright, so let's get into it.

Last week we talked at length about the first power, a movie that Discord user and a Get in Things could add the tagline Liu and me and the devil makes three. I like that. I mean it very much feels like a tagline that this movie could have had. I like that in this tagline universe they're just calling them Liu. Like they're like, we don't care. Is characters name it? It's Lou. We know it's Lou. I mean, we know it's LDP. Reminds me of a story that I heard about Will Smith. A young actor was getting on a brand new show and he said, you know, if you have any power here, you have to use it to get them to

change your character's name to your actual real name. And the guy's like, why is it? Because when this show is a hit and it will be a hit, people are gonna run after you and they're gonna be shouting your character's name and it's so much better for them to be calling you your name. Then some character that you played 10 years ago, take it from Will Smith,

any aspiring actors out there when this strike is eventually over, just start calling yourself by your regular name. On all shows, why not? Why not? Ethan Hunt, Tom Hunt, Denzel? Always Denzel. We don't need a fancy name, unless it's a cool name. Let's have a really cool name. We just keep your regular names. Keep your regular names. Unless it really has a good ring to it. That's what I'd say, but honestly, name me a Denzel Washington character. Name me a Tom Cruise character, Maverick.

Call sign. Come on. It's hard. Alright. Anyway, let's get into it. We had questions about the first power, and we might have even missed a few things. Here is your chance to set a straight fact check us if you will. It's time for corrections and omissions. Yes, Rob from Long Island always hitting it out of the park.

Love it. Let's go to the discord. W. Rev Cam writes, regarding the question of why the killer didn't just possess the main characters and be done with it, someone gave exposition when they were looking at the catatonic guy in the jail and said the killer could only take over people who are more susceptible, especially from drugs alcohol and mental illness. Oh, okay I think the cop boss was a drunk, but why the killer could have get the none later. I'm not really that sure Maybe she was already injured. Oh, does injury help there too. Okay, all right. I like this Maybe the movie is saying like religions of mental illness. No, that's an interesting

thing that I totally forgot and it makes sense, but I also feel like the movie doesn't fully commit to that. Cat says Paul rightfully thank God, rightfully pointed out how bad of a shot LDP was in this movie But no one mentioned that in one of the many chase scenes he aims at a shadow and shoots LDP sees a still shadow on a wall and Fires at it. Yeah, this is a time in movies where actors playing cops shot at everything I believe Lou Diamond Philips gets out of bed with a gun in hand. So, you know what, a shadow, look, maybe saw Roger Abbott, and he knows shadows can just like peel themselves off the wall. I don't know, but you got to shoot at a shadow just to make sure it's a shadow.

That's what I would say. Always shoot at your shadow. It's like trying to step on your shadow But more violent Joe Tangello writes when Tess first called LDP she made him promise that the killer wouldn't get the death penalty She then got mad at him after he was executed now. I don't work in law or law enforcement But does the detective that brings down a criminal have any say in their sentencing? I mean, I can't imagine they'd be able to tell a judge or a prosecutor how someone should be sentenced. Yeah, it seems to me weird that even if you tried to lobby for such a thing for a serial killer,

people be like, huh? What? Get it, get the fuck out of here. I mean, the fact that he was interviewed on the courthouse steps even is a bulldoof. That was something that we saw so much in movies like when we were kids like uh... you got interview the cop on the court out steps i don't think i was a copy in a jr.

ever uh... alright let's go to the phones gregg from montana what do you got hey fault i wanted to talk about the pentagram a dally and that she wields in the first power power. So the pentagram was kind of co-opted as a Christian symbol once upon a time, and then it became associated with the occult, with the idea that you could draw that figure on the ground, with a circle around it, you could like stand inside of it, summon whatever demon, and a demon get you because you were protected by a holy symbol.

And then just like a crucifix, if you hold it upside down, it becomes evil or an abomination. So our guy draws pentagrams, I'll say down on his victims, but then when she holds the medallion up, the pentagram is actually right side up, but that leads us to our standard evil guy trope, where if you're an extra powerful evil guy You're not as affected by that kind of nonsense and he's able to

Grab her hand and flip it upside down. It's either holding it upside down to make the pentagram upside down again So I hope that helps love a show love you guys. I hope to see you live someday. Oh Shit, you see this is why we do this because we love to learn. All right, upside down pentagram, that's evil, doesn't work, right set up pentagram, you're protected. It's like state farm, it's always on your side when it's the right set up, I don't know, un-lost.

Anyway, Anthony from Providence, what do you got? Hey Paul, I attended the first power live show in Medford. It was awesome. I just wanted to expand on something you mentioned. So you did say that this was E.D.E.'s favorite movie, but also he wrote a song called The First Power. It's the first track on his last album, and the track features the line C-around buddy boy. And interestingly there's a lot of fans on YouTube who have definitely not seen the movie who are debating the meaning of the song even 20 years later. So people thinking that it's easy ease, satanic prayer to the devil, others thinking it's

his way of tricking the devil. So I thought that was pretty funny. Anyway, that's all I got. Just wanted to say again, it was a great show. Look forward to seeing you, Jason and June again when you return to New England. Thanks. Bye. Oh my god. I know this song. Okay, we got to play it. We got to play it. Look, people, we're all adults. It's an easy song. There's going to be some explicit language here, but I love that people don't know the movie enough.

This is great. Oh, I'm so excited about this. Great, great, great. Alright, Scott'll never die. Shhh, shut up bitch. Fear not them which killed the body. Rather fear him which failed to destroy both body and soul and hell. Get deep behind these Satan and push me along. All this power I will give thee,

and thou therefore will touch me, all shall be gone. Come for me bitch, as you walk through the door, I'm backwards. Heaven and art, which father are, our father would shorten it. Hey, what the fuck are you doing? See you around, buddy boy. It's a little taste. You can go find that wherever you listen to your easy-e. Mike, from Orlando, always love an Orlando call. What do we got? Hey Paul, I just watched the first power. So the Psychics House, I recognized and I realized

it's Tim Allen's house and galaxy quest and I looked at this enough couple of stallhouse and it's a tourist attraction. So you live in that area, it's on that mistake and what's the story there. Thanks a lot, love you guys. Okay, so we actually did mention it was a Stahlhouse in the episode, but I love this connection that you pulled here to Galaxy Quest, which is something I totally forgot. The Stahlhouse does offer tours to the public.

If you wanna go take a tour of the house, let me know. I think it is truly one of the, it's a beautiful historical landmark. You go on the website here and they'll tell you everything about it. It's a tourist attraction, but here's what I'll say. I'll read you what the website says. It's beautiful.

It looks just like how it was left to Calyxiquest. The Stahl House is a historical cultural landmark of the city of Los Angeles. It was deemed that in 1999 and 2007, the American Institute of Architects listed the Stahl House as one of the top 150 structures on their America's favorite architecture list. One of only 11 in Southern California,

the house was included in a list of the all-time top 10 houses in LA in Los Angeles time survey of experts in December of 2008. And in 2013, the stall house became listed in the National Register of Historic Places. Wow, very, very cool. I'm looking around. I may go visit the saw house. The caller said, I live near there. I mean looking around. I may go visit the Sawhouse. You know, the caller said I live near there. I mean, I used to, but not anymore. I was like, when I first moved out to LA, that's

like kind of above the whole foods on that kind of Hollywood Hills area. Then check out the Sawhouse. Let's go. It's field trip, everybody. Let's go and dress as our characters, our favorite characters from the first power. Back to the discord, lizard breath writes when Tess has the vision of LDP getting an axe to the head, the hotel she runs there and does the exact same thing she did in her vision. Why didn't LDP get axe this time? Shouldn't she have yelled something different or pushed him out of the way to create a different outcome? Yes, this movie is stupid. I don't believe tests.

Test, by the way, if she's a psychic, she would have known that the guy was gonna get the death penalty to the point earlier in this, oh brother. Dennis C Abrams writes this, Paul wondered if the none was in Nungale. It does look like she was in a monastic cell, a pretty common living arrangement for a monk or a nun, sparse accommodations to facilitate a focus on spirituality. She may have even been an anchoress who are especially aesthetic. Back in the day, they were instances where they were walled up in their cells and unable to leave. Now that is devotion. It felt like she was walled up in there because you only had that little, that little like keyhole to look out of for that little door slot. All right, let's find out. Was that none in Angris? I didn't even know what

Angris was, but walled up in their cells. Does that mean that they put the cement bricks there and then? How did they get food in? I don't know. Probably not the first to point this out, but the first power a food in. Probably not the first to point this out, but the first power sounds a lot like the movie Fallen with Denzel Washington, which came out eight years later. Okay, now Scott notes, he told me, but Zaro is right, because here's the plot description of Fallen. After witnessing the execution of a serial killer, Edgar Reese, who he arrested, detective John Hobbs, and his partner, Jonesy, are soon investigating another murderer whose ammo is eerily similar to Reese's. Okay, the trail leads to an unlikely foe, a demon who can leap from person to person and

possess them at will. Fallen, when the Denzel makes this, Fallen has a 40% score in Rotten Tomatoes compared to first powers 25, which means I think somebody call Avril, we got to do it. I mean, we got to do Fallen. All right, so many great corrections and emissions this week, but there can only be one winner, one person who really brought it. and you know, honestly, I learned a lot this week I learned about pentagrams. I learned about easy. I learned about the stall house But you know what? I think for the first time Somebody has picked a movie for this podcast right here in corrections and omissions without actually saying do this movie and I believe that is batzaro batzaro you are our winner and you get this amazing song from Caleb You will hear I need one more day, I need one more day, I need one more day, I need

one more day, I need one more day, I need one more day, I need one more day, I need one more day, I need one more day, I need one more day, I need one more day, I need one more day, I need one more day, I need one more day, I need one more day, I need one more day, I need one more day, I need one more day, I need one more day, I need one more day, I need one more day, I need one more day, I need thoughts about the latest episode hit up the discord at discord dot gg slash hdtgm or call us at six one nine Paul ask coming up Jason and I will answer listener phone calls and chat about forgotten TV shows and how we remember them. All right stick around. Welcome back. You've noticed that every Monday how did this get made. We are re-releasing older episodes. We like to put them back in the rotation. This week's Matt named Monday

was cellular with ike barren, hultz and Aaron Gibson. We like to put them back in the rotation. This week's Matt named Monday was cellular with Ike Barron-Holton, Aaron Gibson. This week we're gonna honor the news that the original Country Bear Jamboree show in the Magic Kingdom is finally going to be replaced. Now that, I don't think it's full news because I know it's pretty much closed everywhere else. It's not in LA.

We went to go see the holiday show, but I dragged my dad when we were in Tokyo to go see the country bear jamboree in Tokyo Disneyland or world or whatever they call it there and it was awesome, but they're replacing it. And so you know what we're gonna celebrate these country bears a little bit more as we re-release our episode on the country bears with cool up villesok so keep on checking out our old episodes every single Monday and also check out Cool up show at the cart which I love you know, it's coming up Christmas December will not that much, but I will come back on that show to give my ultimate Christmas I got to get thinking anyway, let's get into just a little bit of chat. Me and Jason, we're gonna answer some phone calls.

We really get off track very quickly. We go down rabbit holes. We're talking about old sitcoms. And honestly, I feel like this is a mini podcast right here. Oh, I also wanna just say to this, would anyone be interested in Jun and I doing a survivor recap podcast like in the how did this get made feed. I don't think we're going to launch a brand new podcast, but I kind of want to do it. Jun and I are a little bit obsessed with it. I feel like we should. I don't know if that's against strike

rules. Well, you have to figure it out. Anyway, Anton Wellen, you don't have to worry about any of that. All you have to worry about is creating a theme for Just Chat, and here it is. They're always to tell me And what's it all called? It's a close up shine. Thank you, Anton. All right, Jason. Let's go to the phones. Oh, yeah.

Coming at you. W-H-T-D-G-M. The collar's on the line. Get him on. Get him on. Who are you? Where are you where you calling from zoos of the Sheer man this is Eddie from Lamarata a little bit of trivia about switch there was a bizarre TV commercial where they just cut in the name Jimmy Smith at the end not starring Jimmy Smith not with

Jimmy Smith looking up if he came a running joke on mystery science theater 3000 for years anytime a character said which they have to say Jimmy Smith so I think it's on YouTube if you Look it up if he came a running joke on mystery science theater 3000 for years. Anytime a character said which, they have to say Jimmy Smith. So I think it's on YouTube if you look it up. Switch commercial number three. Very funny stuff. I think you'll enjoy. Thanks for the show. Love it. Bye. Alright, let's take a look. After Steve died, God sent him back as a woman.

It's okay. To make him a better man. Now he's putting aside male pride and seeing life from the other side. In Blake Edwards new comedy, switch Jimmy Smith's R. Melville and you. That's what you know what I know that was because that's got to be because it was he popular at the time was NYPD blue on at the time like was this a I think is way before that so like is is Jimmy Smith's like is Jimmy smits the second lead of the movie I guess he is well I think what it is is a had to say Ellen bar like they had to billboard yes Ellen Bark and the V.O. but they only had like a 30 second spot so they have to like Jimmy's

jamming it Jimmy Smith that's funny they don even see all, like I have a feeling it was also like, and Jimmy Smith. Yes, but then they needed the end. Yeah, they cut the end rather. That's funny. Let me hear it one more time, Scott, because it's too good. I just need to hear it one more time. Ellen Barkin. In Blake Edwards, new comedy, Switch, Jimmy Smith, rated R, now playing at a theater near

you. It's almost, it's funny because it's like, when Jimmy, it's when Jimmy Smith comes on screen, it's almost like we need to identify the man on screen. Right. Right. Jimmy Smith. But it doesn't even sound like he's saying,

and Jimmy Smith, he doesn't even have like, it's like, you know, starring Ellen Barkin. And Jimmy Smith, and doesn't even feel like it would take that role. I agree, it's just Jimmy Smith. and doesn't even feel like it would take that long. I agree, it's just Jimmy Smith. It's pretty weird. That's funny. I like, what's your, because it sounds like

this is a recurring mystery science theater 3000 joke. Well, yes, and that's something I did not know. I didn't know that either, and it led to me wanting to ask you, what is your, how much of mystery science theater 3000 did you consume? Because I feel like, I hit it a little bit and I watched some of it, but then I didn't stick with it and become the diehard fan that I know a lot of people,

a lot of people we know are obsessed with that show and are, you know, feel very connected to it. Yeah, well, you know, I feel exactly the same way, but I did like it. Every time I sought, I liked it. And I thought it was really funny. And I recorded them and I thought, like I actually liked the middle pieces

more than the movie parts. Like I like those characters. Yeah, like the sketches and all that stuff. But then once we started doing this, I've really, I've stayed away from it only because not that there's so much overlap and so much. Yeah. No, I understand that. Were you like a fan of comedy channel or ha, like that? I didn't have them. Okay, that sort of, I first started watching it was on those channels. Like there was a late night talk show called

like Night After Night with Alan Havie and that was like my, that was my thing. I liked all the new shows like the with Judy Tnuda's hosting something or like this. And then history, theater felt like, oh, well, this is old stuff. I don't want to be. We didn't get cable because those are all cable channels. Right. So we didn't get cable until I was like in college. I feel like so I didn't have X. I didn't grow up with a TV that you could throw on, you know, TNT and they'd be showing Air Force One and you just watch it.

I had like a TV where you turned on like Channel 38 and at 4 o'clock in the afternoon, they were playing like old I love Lucy episodes and then Harold and mod. This reminds me of my week away with my family in Maine. Oh, yeah. Because I was used to cable and we went up there and the same thing. I was like, oh, we have to watch Beretta. Yeah. And it felt like, whoa, yeah, Beretta rockford files. Yes. This was, and this was what you was on after, like I would come home home from school I would walk home from school. I would turn on channel 38 and watch

reruns of mash oh as a child as like a nine year old oh coming home from me it was I mean these are more Kid shows, but it was always like a mix of three's company. Yeah different strokes, happy days, a lot of happy days, match. Brady Bunch. Brady Bunch. But then for me, there would also be mixed in like a bunch of like old black and white shows as well.

I love Lucy. Leave it to be here. And leave it to be here exactly. Oh my God. Yeah. And like the family block would include, leave it to be here and the Brady Bunch. And you know, I mean, all of them would be clustered together. And you would, and I watched a lot of mash and I hated mash. I like mash to me.

I loved it. Like mash to me was like, this is not for me. I want to show what the kid and the train. Like, like, I was so angry with it. I want what's happening. I was angry at mash, always angry at mash. And maybe it was because my grandparents like mash, so we were forced to watch it.

Like I was like, it was not my choice. Oh, that's funny. But I've grown to like mash. What I feel the thing is, and I wonder if it's out there, and I'm sure somebody will point us to a file folder that I will never click on or something, but you know, Mash was shot, single camera, and a laugh track was added afterwards to the show.

Right, so in America, the show Mash plays with a laugh track. Everywhere else, the show Mash aired, the laugh track was not put in. Whoa, I think that's it. So there is a single camera version of that show without the Laft Track, that exists somewhere I assume. Because that Laft Track was really weird.

Very jarring because it's all canned. It's all just like piped in. But every half hour show to me had a Laft Track. Like it was something that I knew, by the way, I got into this conversation last week on the Twitch show by myself with Molly. We were talking about this episode of Too Close for Comfort. Okay.

That I remembered. Does this ring a bell to you? Too close for Comfort, if you don't remember. Ted Knight from Caddy Shack. He was a cartoonist, a cartoon that I would imagine is similar to Snoopy. It was called Cosmic Cow. He had two young, very vivacious daughters and a neighbor played by Jim J. Bullock, who was the psychic in the episode that we just recently did of switch. Yes.

He was the psychic switch. Jim J. Bullock often on Hollywood squares. Jim J. Bullock who at the time on too close for comfort was J.M. J. Bullock. No, Jim. Just J.M. So I remembered this episode. I very briefly just because you and I are connected to it. You and Adam Scott and some folks used to do, used to do an adult swim series of specials where you recreated shot for shot, the opening title sequences of like 1980s sitcoms. Were they all 80s?

We did Simon and Simon. Simon and Simon. Yeah, that's the one I remember. I was in the Too Close for Comfort one with John Glazer. Yeah, and Catherine Han and Chelsea Peretti Catherine Promissed TV and shits Creek. Yes Catherine O'Hara Catherine O'Hara Jesus Christ. It was an amazing cast It was incredible. We did four of these specials called the greatest show in the history of the world

Posted by Jeff Props and they actually are still available to be seen If you just type in the greatest show in history of the world, they're very funny. Oh, yeah, it was like they were like 12 minute long adult swim late night. Like the kind of specials you would stumble on and be like, what on earth is this? It was so much fun to do because they just let us do whatever we wanted. We did Simon and Simon too close for comfort. And I'm, oh, bosom buddies. Oh, gosh, I can oh, bosom buddies. Oh, that's a good one.

And, gosh, I can't remember the fourth one. Yeah. But each episode we would kind of recreate everything, but two clothes for comfort was, oh, heart to heart was the fourth one. Oh, that's a great one. I always loved two clothes for comfort. It was one of those shows that, like you said, was just in this pack of things that I would watch.

That one with the also the show with the girl when her dad was an alien and when she put her two fingers together, she would freeze time. Yes. Right. Like all these weird, I guess they're called. Was it, didn't she talk to the guy on a bedside? Yes. Like he's a little Amazon.

Like a crystal, a crystal talk box or something. Yes, he was like on an Amazon Echo or something like that. And there was another show called Double Trouble. Oh, I was in love with the Double Trouble twins full-stop. Same. Maybe one of my first legitimate, I have a crush was on the Double Trouble twins and then as we've talked about before, Michelle Fiverr in Lady Hawk. I mean, like these, and a lot of the times, like I think my first crushes for all these

like young girls on these shows, like whether it was Charles and Charge or anything like that. That was a little show. Double trouble, by the way, like if you, you know, I felt like that show was on forever. It was not for like one season. Oh yeah. You know, uh, well, no, didn't no, didn't it, wasn't it one season? And then they moved to like the city for the second season or something like there was some redo of the show

or something. I feel like. They would redo all these shows. Like, yes, you're right. They would like all of a sudden take them out of their spot and you know, we were talking about this, uh, we were talking about this on the show because i had a distinct memory that on too close for comfort there was an episode where gym j bullock gets raped

by two women and and i googled it i googled it really quickly and I googled it really quickly and I found the episode listing of that episode where he gets raped by these two women who are just Super horny and they want to fuck but one of the women was a very tall man and a wig Yes, because they were trying to show how they I guess you know really manhandled Jim J because they threw them in the back of a van They threw them back in the house and then they put them in a tub full of jello and it's played it's played up for comedy I was just gonna say was this played for laughs. Oh is this a special episode? Well, it's tricky to do a special episode

Like you're you're going for jokes, but then oddly as we were watching the episode back, like Ted Knight is kind of like a woke night. He's very much on the right side of like, no, we can't make fun of this. We gotta go to the police. This is not funny. And he was so it's a very like he was doing the like he was moving the right way.

Everyone else is making fun of Monroe. And so I remembered at the end, I was like, okay, I remember that that he that he goes to confront them. And I was right. He does decide. Ted night decides that the cops won't arrest these women. So they must do vigilante justice. So they have to go in the streets and find these women and then bring them to justice. I mean, this is an episode of... We're Ted Knight becomes Batman. When Ted Knight becomes the Dark Knight,

this is truly what is going on. So the three of you. The Ted Knight returns. Please make that poster. And so what's in? Please make Ted Knight's Batman costume in the style of the cow that is in the comic.

The Cosmic Cow, yes. The Cosmic Cow, thank you. This is just be something for me and Jason that will get an enjoy. So we're not gonna make a t-shirt out of this. So when he finally gets to confront the women, they find out where they live. The women pull him into the room,

throw him into a chair, it's their grinding on him. You're gonna give it to us, you're gonna give it to us, like give it to us, and then Ted Knight's so afraid that he runs and jumps in like a Murphy bed and then closes the Murphy bed to escape the women. And luckily he does not, he does not get sexually assault. Oh my God. The cops do come and that's a headable stuff.

I would like a YouTube channel that is just all of these like wild 80s sitcom episodes. Like the ones that are truly atypical to the rest of the series because they take one big crazy swing or some, either it's a message episode or it's a particularly strange storyline they decide to try and pursue because they used to just do almost flights of fancy kind of like, well now in this episode this happens, you know. Right. Well, I was saying that some of these things burned into my head. We, you know, this episode, this Monroe episode is impossible to find. We actually played the whole thing

on the Twitch stream because someone had it, sent it to us, and then we were able to play it and watch it in real time. But do you remember, like, different strokes was the show that really messed me up because that one molester bike shop carton. That one was a mess, mess me up. But the one that got me in my gut was Sam was the young kid on that show, the redhead kid that they brought in after like Willis and Kimberly or two old, right? They brought in a young kid,

Hoyt Axten, the dad from Grimlins was his stepfather. I don't know that I don't know that I remember this okay i guess the basically mister drum and gets remarried to a younger woman who has a kid the the long story short is uh... sam is at abodega in new york in new york and he's like trying to find the best bag of dredo's and uh... a squeeze in different bags of Doritos and And this guy's like, oh, you want to you want some good Doritos come with me. Oh boy. And then Kidnap Sam and what you find out is they bring him to his house and

Wait a minute. I do remember this. Okay, because it ends with Jim Kavizel coming and saving him from the child traffickers. Kavizal saves the day. And then they decided to like branch it onto a longer form film. And that's what I love about Hollywood. It's always the thing that sticks out to me in that episode, they bring up to the house and they just don't kidnap him.

They go, our son died. Oh. You are now our son. I love it. And your name isn now our son. I love it. And your name isn't Sam anymore. I love it. It's Chuck. You are now Chuck.

And like, and he's like living in this house and the mama's like, Chuck come here and he's like, yes mama. And they'd be freaking out too because he doesn't want to like, he's trying to play the game. What's amazing is it sounds like you're describing to me an episode of like SVU. Yeah, like a long order, like grim, kind of, I can't believe we're watching this our horrible thing happened to a child, and instead it's an episode of different strokes.

Different strokes and it's like, and it was so upsetting. Like, because I think that was the thing that really burned in my head like, oh, he had to pretend to be a different kid. And when you're a kid, that is like, wait, is this can this happen to me? Yes. And then there what a wildly irresponsible thing to show on a show aimed at children.

I know you might be at the store. Somebody might grab you and force you into being a different kid. And that was like, and that's why I look at the Monroe episode of Two Coast For Comfort. And I'm also equally confused because I get it. Like on Blossom, you wanna do a show about oh, Balemia, or you wanna do a kidnapping show in different strokes because these are shows

for kids where kids can learn a lesson. Hey, that bike shop owner has pornography. That's bad. You got to tell your parents, like these are things that we need, like don't do drugs. But, yes. Too close for comfort. These are legitimate social messages that should be delivered to children. Right.

But too close for comfort is kind of like an adult show. It was like a 9-9-30 show. Yes, where it's like, that's not a special episode to have Monroe who is, you know, pushing his mid-twenties there, going through the stroller. Yeah, not older, right? This was an adult man.

What is this story? Well, that's the thing that's so bizarre. It's like, why did they feel like they wanted to tell that story? I don't know. TV would just, like the people just were like, I don't know, let's do what about this? You know, it just, it felt like more was just possible

in terms of, we gotta make 26 of these a year. I mean, and look, we were making shows where a dad like worked in a factory and made a robot and adopted her as a daughter. Like the conceit of small wonder is at its core. So so fucked up. So fucked up. Like how like, that's a perfect example of a show that in it's from the ground up is chilling and bizarre and is fully unexamined. It is really, I mean, and it was just like, we'll buy into this premise just to get you into this world.

And that was it. And that was, and the idea was like, oh yeah, it's, like, there was a family sitcom. It's a family sitcom just like the Hogan's and just like all these other ones except one of the kids, just like Alph, except one of the kids is a robot don't worry about it. And then, and then on the flip side of it, they would also just jettison things that did not work. It's like, okay, Charles and charge, we think that this family's too old. Let's bring in hot rid of them instead. Yep. Yeah. They brought in hot girls. It's like that was the thing.

Like, it was like, it was like,, when LeVernin Shirley like moved from Minneapolis to Los Angeles. I forgot. And just lived in LA. Ha, ha, ha. By the way, I'm looking at double trouble. They also did that too. They got rid of the parents.

Yes. Oh yeah. And they had the the short-haired aunt. Is she their aunt? Yes. Who did they live in a New York City apartment with or a building with? Yeah, Barbara Berry. Yes, Barbara Berry.

Oh my gosh, she was also, I guess, the wife of Barney Miller. Oh, that's funny, I forget that. Yeah. But I mean, these shows, it's so funny to go back and watch them because it's like, it's like, what are memory of a, I want to go back and now watch that Sam episode too, because, but these images are burnt in my brain. It's like yes. I guess it was effective. I mean, I guess what we're saying is, you know, I will say too. And people have to remember this, which I think a lot of our listeners won't really understand, which is a lot of these TV shows and especially the episodes

we're talking about of these TV shows, we maybe only had one opportunity to see it if not maybe two, if the episode replayed in the summer. We didn't grow up in an environment where we could re-watch seasons of a favorite show, or if you were a fan of Too Close For Comfort, or Magnumum or any of the shows of that era. If you didn't see it, the when it aired, you missed that episode. You, you, there was no way to rent it, watch it. The TV shows weren't on VHS.

There was nothing, there was no way to rewire stuff. So stuff got not just imprinted in your memory, but then you would go over it and talk about it with your friends. And there was, there was a way in which you would lock it in by creating the lore around it communally, not just from rewatching it obsessively yourself. You know, you couldn't do it. You didn't have access.

You know? Well, then let me bring you this one One episode to you that I also remember do you remember a show where a Guy I want to say it was Matthew Perry. I don't think it is Matthew Perry's way before friends he He dies in a car accident and the opening theme song was like he steps on a dial and and the opening theme song was like, he steps on a dial. And if one path lights up, you go to hell, and if one path lights up, you go to heaven.

And when he stepped on that dial, both paths lit up. So he got a chance to go back and try to correct his childhood version of himself. Like, I love these, I got into the shows. Super high concept. Super high concept. I mean it's... I don't remember that. Did you ever figure out what it was? No, I'm trying to remember. I'm looking into it.

Okay, I mean that's the... I've been trying to remember a TV show for years that I cannot find any evidence of. And I'm going to put it out to the fans now because somebody will remember. Yeah. So these are not the correct pieces of information. But in my mind, they are.

In my mind of the show, starred Michael Perry. It did not. I've looked at his, through his entire disc, or filmography, rather. But it must have been a Michael Perry type guy. And it was like a dramatic one hour. And it was almost like 21 jump street, except Grittier in that it was young people, but they were in the service of,

like, they were a gang, but they helped solve crimes, I think. It wasn't WizKids to be true. Okay. All right, this is good. I like this idea. It was like very street level, and it was very like warriors,

is what I keep coming back to, like the movie warriors. Right, right. It was like punks and like bad kid, like it was a lot of like fights and rumbles and stuff. It almost felt like it was like a 50s show, but I don't think it was. I don't remember any of this.

It would be called the Red Head gang, or the Red Hand Gang. Ooh, I don't know, maybe. Why. Maybe why is that was an exciting tale about various adventures and escapades that the gang encountered from customers to strangers, creepy folks. Oh, that's not great though. What is I mean? Yeah, I mean it may be to all it's it's from this is like from the mid 80s. Okay, this is 77. No, I don't think so. Although that sounds red. The red head, sorry, the red hand gang. Yeah, I'm looking at it now. It's not, I don't think it's that. Okay, this does look fun. I mean, there's a chimpanzee involved in that. Oh, yeah, no, this was a deadly serious show. Okay, show. This was like a moody, noirey kind of vibe. I like this. Let's throw this down to the yeah

Yeah, yeah, this is a new segment. We're doing called shows that Paul and Jason have forgotten help us remember But by the way, I'm gonna tell you I did this once on an episode and they help me find a movie that I was obsessed with as a kid Which and I am alright, so now I know all the details It's a Jennifer Connolly comedy and and it's called Seven Minutes in Heaven. Love it. Love that movie. Right? Is that a great movie? I love that movie.

I love that movie. I loved that movie. Wait, did you rewatch it? I bought the DVD. Yes, and I've been wanting to show it to June. Because I was able to- I gotta rewatch that. I, that is a movie I did rent.

Yes, me too. I was so obsessed with Seven Minutes in Heaven. I, that is a movie I did rent. Yes, me too. I was so obsessed with seven minutes in heaven. I thought that movie was like, it felt like a Dalton like when Tessence of eroticism. Yeah, oh, 100%. That's a kid. I was like, like, one of them was their by age.

So I was like, one of the girls is like having an affair with a baseball player. Yeah. It's like, it's a, oh, I, I, I, yeah. There's another movie I've been trying to think of that I can't remember and again I've got it all wrong because in my mind it stars a Young-ish Jody Foster and a young-ish Josh Charles doesn't make sense I can't be either of them because of the ages none of it matters none of it makes sense

But those are the archetypes and it is a summer romance movie. Like, one of them is in a summertime, and they have like a summer romance, and then it all goes sideways, and it's like a heartbreaker. It's like a tear jerker, like rom-compting romance movie. I think is kind of what it is. Anyway, that's the other one that I keep being like,

what are the things? All right, I love it. Again, we've thrown down the gauntlet. And all right, we will see what people come up with. I'm excited for it. Jason is great talking old sitcoms of you. Home run. Home run.

Oh, right. Pleasure. Oh, he's talking about those shows. Man, this really, that conversation really set me down a rabbit hole. I've been on a YouTube binge of old sitcoms and they're crazy. I love them. I know that's a crazy, like, oh, they're crazy. No, but like what we took for entertainment, like things have changed and I almost feel like I

want to go back to some of that style of a sitcom. It'll be great. Just in a break, like a minute and twenty second opening, too close for comfort. Yeah, get into it. Anyway, um, call us anytime. Me and Jason are here to answer your questions. 619 P-A-U-L-A-S-K that's 619 Paul asked. Now that we got the first power out of the way, let's talk about next week's movie. We are going from Lou Diamond to Neil Diamond. That's right. Next week we are watching the 1973 film adaptation of the best-selling book Jonathan Livingston Seagull with an original soundtrack written and recorded by the one, the only Neil Diamond. Okay, this movie is bonkers.

I'm going to tell you right now, you're not going to like this movie at all. It's going to be a pain to get through, but I think it's one of the best movies we've ever done. It's insane. It is art piece. It's crazy. What's the plot? Non-conforma Segal, Jonathan, is tired of his boring life and experiments with a brand new flying technique, but when the elders expel him from his clan, he decides to explore his newfound freedom. And yes, this movie is made entirely of real life segal footage

with human actors voicing the seagulls. Yes, and animals were armed in this movie. We know it has to be true. Ron Tomatoes gives us film at 8% score and tomato meter Roger Ebert walked out of the screening after 45 minutes Making it one of the only four films he ever walked out on. Normally this is when I would play you a quick trailer of the movie But the trailer is literally just footage of Seagulls set to a Neil Diamond song, so I thought instead I give you a little peek behind the curtain of how did this get made live show. What you don't normally hear on the podcast is that I play the trailer of the movie for the audience before we start the show and we'll take a listen to how the audience reacted to watching this trailer.

We're not recording yet, all right. But it seems to me like you want to watch more of it. So let's take a look at the trailer for John and Living's It's Diggle. The You made it fine again. You made it fine. Okay, the trailer actually continues for over two more minutes. And then when it was over, I decided if they didn't like it that much, we needed to play it again. Oh my gosh! That was

amazing. You know what? We actually did have a small technical difficulty. Let's play it again. We wanted to let you. Holy shit. Holy shit. You guys are already the best audience. We have even started yet. I Love it. I love New York. Anyway, we are almost to the end of this episode But before we go check out this bonus scene from our first power show where we discuss other actors

Who we'd like to cast in the movies lead roles? What's your name? I'm Elena. I So the killer in the movie was, I don't know, if people know this, that Nick Cave, the Australian Goth Rocker auditioned for this role, which would have been amazing. And I'm wondering what other, like, if this movie was recast, who would you cast?

I have a vote for Joe Firestone as the... As the psychic test? No, the lady at the back lady. And the back lady. That's just curly hair. You just want a different curly hair to be in that part. Well, look, I'm already saying that I believe that one of the shirts and congenitions should be Bosch on the first power poster.

It would be good. And I feel like that, we should just get that out there. But also, imagine how good this movie would have been. Again, this always works. It works every single time. Instead of Lou Diamond Phillips, who I think is fantastic as an actor, but instead, it's Nicholas Cage. The movie is just absolutely riveting.

Nicholas Cage going toe-to-toe with Jeff Gohurt. That would be incredible. So I actually have an important recast for tests. And I think this would have changed everything. Meg Ryan. Because I think you needed someone who is a little bit more kind of flighty, a little bit more all over the place, a little bit more charming. And yeah, I just think my career.

All right. Can I prove? Can I prove? If you say that, I'm going to say Dennis Quaid as Lou Diamond Phillips, but then I'm going to go, let's go one step further, go Billy Crystal. Billy Crystal is a great homicide detective. Absolutely not. All right that is it for the show. Please remember to rate and review it helps and if you

listen on Apple Podcast make sure you are following us, visit us on social media at HDTGM and a big thanks to our producers Scott Sonny Molly Reynolds, our movie-picking producer, Averyl Halley, our engineers Casey Hulford and Rich Garcia and Jess Cisneros, who makes our amazing social media videos. We will see you next week for, and I apologize in advance, Jonathan Livingston Seagull. You