How Did This Get Made? - Last Looks: The Forbidden Dance

Episode Date: April 3, 2026

Jason and Paul chat about TV, movies, and ask who the Jackass cast members would be if they were in the Fellowship of the Ring. But first, Paul responds to all your corrections & omissions on The Forbidden Dance. And stay tuned to the end of the episode to find out next week's new movie!   PAUL & JASON'S WATCH LIST: Nirvanna the Band the Show the Movie Young Sherlock Sherlock & Daughter The Fall and Rise of Reggie Dinkins • Go to hdtgm.com for tour dates, merch, FAQs, and more• Have a Last Looks correction or omission? Call 619-PAULASK to leave us a voicemail!• Submit your Last Looks theme song to us here• Join the HDTGM conversation on Discord: discord.gg/hdtgm• Buy merch at howdidthisgetmade.dashery.com/• Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of Trauma• Shop our new hat collection at podswag.com• Paul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheer• Paul’s YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheer• Follow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer• Subscribe to Enter The Dark Web w/ Paul & Rob Huebel: youtube.com/@enterthedarkweb• Listen to Unspooled with Paul & Amy Nicholson: unspooledpodcast.com• Listen to The Deep Dive with June & Jessica St. Clair: thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcast• Instagram: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & @junediane• Twitter: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & msjunediane  • Jason is not on social media• Episode transcripts available at how-did-this-get-made.simplecast.com/episodesGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Taxi dancing, a porn PSA, and Paul goes on jackass? All this and more on a brand new. How did this get made? Last looks, hit the theme. This is the last, but Paul such a stand-up guy, he lets us all say goodbye to last week's film, see you later, got a go, Cheerio, Tata for now, say well. Hello all you, Kriol and the Coconut fans.

It's me, your host Paul Scheer, aka a daddy coconut. And welcome to how did this get made? Last Looks, where you, the listener, get to voice your issues on The Forbidden Dance, a movie that Discord user Fun Facts 47 thinks should have had the tagline, The Forbidden Dance. You're tearing me apart, Nisa! And that, of course, is a mediocre Tommy Wazzo impression, but a great alt-movie tagline by Fun Facts

47. Here's a thought. Do I need to have a great tummy-wizzo impression? I mean, aren't there enough out there? It's like, if you're doing impressions right now, I don't think you need to work on a Schwarzenegger or Christopher Walken. Like, those have been covered. So, you know, honestly, by me not doing a great one, I'm doing you a service. Anyway, shout out to Quinn for that opening theme song. I love that. Remember, if you have an alt-movie tagline or title submitted to us on our Discord at Discord.g.g. slash HDTGM. And if you have a last looks theme song, go to hd-tttgm.com. and click on submit a song. That's right. It's easy. Remember, keep them short. 15 to 20 seconds is best. We're going to be hearing all about your issues, your corrections, your omissions about the

forbidden dance in just a bit. Then Jason's going to pop by. We're going to talk about Nirvana, the band, the show, the movie. Also, my visit to the brand new jackass movie set, and we will reveal next week's film. Oh, it's a big one. Now, let me tell you, we love the forbidden dance. We barely saw any problems with it, but you. You had a lot of problems with it. And now here's your chance to set us straight. Fact check us, if you will. It is now time for corrections and omissions.

Touch the rhythm. Feel the bass. Write your wrong. Save some face. Give to me. Give to them. Your corrections and omission. Thank you, Brian B.

Love that song. All right. First one up from the Discord is John Steele. Hey, Paul. Two Things. Hey, John. Number one, I was surprised not to hear Jason's take on Nisa running through a men's bathroom barefoot while they made their escape from the villain. You know what? Honestly, John, I think that there's just too much in this movie to discuss that that was kind of left on the wayside. You know, here's what I'm going to say, yeah, gross, but also not as gross as those dirty feet in Burdemic. I mean, those live in my mind forever. John Steele also brings up that the actor that we were calling Rucker Hower's brother is Richard Lynch. John Steele reveals that apparently he set himself on fire while on LSD in the 70s.

Our producer Scott chimes in and says, yeah, that is true. He became a very popular nemesis in film and TV because of these scars that happened in a 1967 incident in New York City's Central Park, where he did light himself on fire. 70% of his body is burned. But wow, way to go. This guy came back. It was a very hardworking, great actor. So there you go.

Can't beat that. And kids don't do drugs. Mitch Tapper writes, one very funny thing that wasn't mentioned. Wow, another thing that we didn't mention in the episode is how Rucker Hower's brother eventually reveals his real passion project is to open an evil nightclub.

The one dastroids, planned that happens to line up perfectly with having captured Nisa. So are you saying that this movie actually makes sense, that his evil plan could only work by capturing an amazing dancer? Well, now, this movie works on a whole other level for me. You may have made the movie make sense. Sean McBee writes, you all talked a lot about how Nisa and Jason never seemed to improve their dancing, but no one mentioned that the dance seemed to never be the same twice. I mean, every single time they danced, the Lombada, it appeared to be a completely different dance.

You know, Sean, you're right about that. I didn't realize that. In my mind, I was like, oh, they're just doing different parts of the dance. But, of course, I don't think that they knew the dance. This is, I love this movie. I really, really do. Let's go to the phones. First up, we have Elle with some very exciting news.

Hi, Paul. I am calling with a correction. spoke pretty highly about dirty dancing during last week's out of the forbidden dance. And the switch played lady, Mickey, is her name, at least. But actually in dirty dancing, I recognized her. She is like the older woman who is married that Patrick Twazey is pretty much before he needs babies. So I verified this. This is one of the only things that she's been in

in these two movies that I've seen. Actually, she's been in a few others. She's side and gelatin teeth. But, yeah, wanted to provide some more connected tissue between these two iconic dance movies. Thanks so much. Love the show. I love it.

Thank you so much. You know what? He should have stayed with her. I think he should have stayed with her. He would be more happy with her. And by he, I mean, Patrick Swayzey. I don't know if you've seen our shirt for this, but Jason needs a Swayze is a pretty great new design that we have in our T-Public store. You can just go and get that by going hd-TGM.com and clicking on merch.

I do love that. I'm not using that just to sell a shirt. I don't care if you buy the shirt. I think it's a good shirt. But I just want to kind of keep all the connective tissue together. Next up, a call from someone who's anonymous. Paul, June, Jason, greetings. I just finished the forbidden dance, and Paul, one of your comments reminded me of an ad that I saw back in 2019.

Your comment was about why PSAs aren't spicier and hotter these days, and maybe we should bring that back. So back when I worked in marketing, you know, I would keep up with trends and industry news, and I came across this ad, produced by a Spanish agency called Officer and Gentleman. And they partnered with adult film creators to have sex on a beach, well, it was cleaned up by the organization Ocean Palmers. And for every view, the video receives, they would make a donation to this organization. Well, it received five and a half million views, and Ocean Palomers got a ton of money. because of this not-so-traditional PSA.

Love the show. Love the work that y'all are doing. Your content is a boom in these troubling times. Please keep it up. And excited for the next episode. Bye. Whoa, wait, what? That is the most insane story.

I have to go find this. I also, $1 per view. So we're, I don't understand even how. Okay. Oh, wait. So you, oh, this is great. I love this idea. More spicy PSAs.

You should get this done, caller. And by the way, thank you so much for what you said. We love doing the show. And it means a lot that it's a sad for us, too. I just think, yes. Why not do it? As a matter of fact, Scott is chiming in. There's a whole New York host article about this PSA.

The title is, the dirtiest porn ever help clean up our filthy beaches. And yeah, it's a flick. I guess I didn't understand it when you were describing it. But Porn Hub, every time you watched it, they would give a donation to Ocean Polymers, a nonprofit organization working on sending a ship to sea to pick up and recycle plastic from the world's waters and spread awareness about this environmental issue. While the Flick's sights has the dirtiest porn ever, because they wanted to kind of appeal to a lot fetishes. Basically, you never get to see anything in the act that's obscured by garbage until a cleanup crew is there in Porn Hub Cares logos. So it is, it's a porn that's safe for your own family,

and I'm just looking at some stills from it. And you know what? This is genius. This is a genius thing. All right, back to the Discord. My fake Iron Lung writes, I am surprised that Jason June and John did not mention what Nisa was doing at the brothel. It's something called taxi dancing. It's basically an old-timey thing from the early 20th century where a dime-a-dance girls would dance with businessmen for companionship. The movie sort of merged that older style with a more modern brothel, which was not necessarily the case with taxi dancing. Obviously, Switchblade Lady and her establishment is supposed to be sleazy and in CD Hollywood,

so the conflict would be heightened if it was more akin to sex work. Well, I think we did talk about that. She was just a dollar a dance girl. I mean, and we understand 10 cents a dance is where it was. I feel like this was like tax. taxi dancing with more, right? It starts with taxi dancing, and then it heightens, and she wouldn't heighten, so she just did the taxi dancing. But anyway, it was weird. And I don't think that this was happening any time around the time of this film. Like you said, it was from the early

20th century. Ginger writes, whenever Nisa spoke to her tribe or the witch doctor, she was speaking Spanish. Shouldn't she has been speaking Portuguese, as that's Brazil's official language? You know what? We actually did talk about it. It just wasn't one of the most interesting facts. We just kind of cut it from the episode. Adjective animal rights, I can't believe they didn't cover the song Lombata was remade into the 2011 Jennifer Lopez plus pit bull hit on the floor. Every time that song played in the movie, which was many, I kept on expecting to see Mr. Worldwide to chime in. Apparently on the floor was so popular that Lombada re-entered the Billboard charts in 2011. after 22 years, hitting number three on the Billboard Digital Chart. Whoa, I did not know that.

And you know what? I mean, Mr. Worldwide should be in a cameo in every movie. I mean, if there is dancing in the movie, he should be there just to cheer him on. Adjective Animal, love this. I cannot believe that we did not know that Lombata re-entered the charts after 22 years. Blume me away. Wow, wow, wow. So many great corrections and omissions this week, but there can only be one.

that is the best. You know what? It's going to be hard for me to figure it out. But I think the one that is our winner is our anonymous caller who led us to the best, most spiciest PSA of all time. That's right. Anonymous, you get this week's prize. And you know what? For having the best correction, we have a very special prize for you, courtesy of a surprise guest. Nope, that wasn't a lion. That was the roar of Nisa's bodyguard and magical shaman. Remember him? That's right, Anonymous.

Joa has agreed to provide you with one week of free bodyguard and healing services the next time you travel to Brazil. So to claim your prize, just go to Brazil and Joea will find you. However, I do want to clarify the Haddisket made is not paying for your trip to Brazil. And if you choose to use Joa's healing services, you must consent to his pets. snake biting your wound. Not a big deal. I think it's worth it because these bodyguard and healing services are top notch. So anonymous, I know we don't have your official name, but I think you should take us up on this. Thank you, Joa, for supplying such an amazing prize. And for all of you who did not win this completely real prize, you can try your luck next episode by submitting your

corrections and omissions on our Discord or by calling us at 619, P-A-U-L-A-S-K. Okay, coming up after this quick break, Jason will stop by to chat about movies and TV that we are loving, plus so much more. Stick around. Welcome back. I'm sure you've noticed that every Tuesday we re-release old How Did This Get Made episodes back into our feed. We used to call these matineeses, but now

we're calling them classics. This week's classic episode is on the erotic thriller, Jade. So keep on checking out all of our replays of classic episodes every Tuesday. And now, without any further ado, it is time to welcome to last looks for a little just chat, my friend Jason. Anton Welland, play us in.

and have things to say And it's the fact That we can all call it. I am thrilled to see you as well. I felt there's been so much stuff going on. I haven't seen you in a little bit of time. It's been too long. It's been too long.

And we were in the middle of spring, break, and I know you go hard. You go down to Florida. You know, I go down to Florida. I've got, I rent a house with a guitar-shaped pool. Oh, yeah, so fun. You know, you enter the neck and you come out the fretboard. You know,

it's really, it's a cool spot. Did I ever tell you this story? I might have and forgive me if I'm retelling it, but when I was seeing Club Paradise for the first time, which is a guy, a Robin Williams movie from the 80s. It's like Robin Williams and Peter O'Toole, and I think the premise of it is that

Robin Williams takes over a club med style resort, like full party, adult party thing. And at one point, Peter O'Toole's like, you're running this place into the ground. And he goes, I'm finding diaphragms in the pool. And I didn't know what that was. And I was trying to find out from my dad. I was like, dad, what's a diaphragm? He's like, oh, that's how you control your breathing. I'm like, great.

So could you lose that in the pool? It was like, oh, what a strange thing for your dad to have to put together. Oh, and then he was like, oh, that's another kind of, no, that's a different kind of diaphragm. Oh, my God. But you have a lot of, I guess what I was saying was you have a lot of diaphragms in your pool. Well, see, I have one of those, you know, when Scrooge McDuck dives into the swimming pool full of gold coins? Yeah. That's what my pool is like, except it's just diaphragms.

I actually have no water in it. It's just diaphragms. Well, there is water in it because the diaphragms do absorb something. Yes, there is a little bit of water, but really it is mostly diaphragms. I'm surprised that in this year of our Lord, 2026, we have not ever seen anyone attempt a Scrooge McDuck dive into a pool full of coins. How has that not been a Mr. Beast thing? Yeah. Or just some dumb.

Yes. Six or whatever thing, you know, how have they. not try, although I mean, I think the answer is obvious. Metal is solid. It doesn't move like liquid. And if you tried to dive into a pool full of metal coins, you would die. But at the same time, we have to see if that's actually true. I agree. And maybe the thing is, maybe it's a person couldn't do it, but a duck could. Ooh, a duck with a monocle. I think maybe the problem has been getting the monocle on the duck. And the robe.

It's really a, it's really a tailoring issue. I can speak about this without using too many specifics, but I got to swing by the set of Jackass Five. So good. And wow. Can't wait. Can't wait. And I think the thing that was that kind of blew my mind about it was when you're there,

they are shooting them at the pace in which you watch them. Right? Like I would say that I watched them do a bit and probably 50. 15, 20 minutes, and then it was over. And it was like, okay, now we're moving to the next thing. They don't do it again. They don't get pickup shots. They don't, you know.

No, the most that I saw them like tweak was just the, we are here doing this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just getting a intro thing. Yeah, just a succinct set up for it. But, yeah. And the thing that blew my mind in visiting that set was I got there at lunch. And like, you know, when you're on a, when you're in a film, you know, you break for, Everyone breaks for lunch.

And I didn't realize that, like, jackass breaks for lunch. And then I was like, why would you ever want to eat and then do any of these things? Like, it doesn't feel like... It's just imagining them lining up at catering to get, like, a chicken breast and some rice and all the traditional, like, onset meals. And then going back into having themselves, like, punched repeatedly in the stomach by, like, a robot. That's all I could possibly think about it. I was like, why are Preston, we, man, why are you guys eating? Don't eat.

Just keep it like a liquid diet or something. Because a lot of the guys, the original guys, are older now. Yes. So is there a younger contingent of, yes, from Jackass Four. The same. Oh, that's right. There was some people, yes, that's right. You got poopies.

Poopies. Who, now I may have told you that we've been very deep into jackass in my family. Yeah. I did not realize this. But poopies got his hand eaten off by a shark during Shark Week. The first ever injury on Shark Week happened promoting Jackass 4. What? And his hand was bitten off, are you saying?

Well, it was severed at three tendons. Oh, my God. And they had to, like, get him out of where they were shooting, get him back to the States. They brought him to a guy who was able to get it reattached. It is reattached. It's gnarly. And he says it's pain. full.

But I and there's footage of it. You can watch the footage of it and so poopies like his like um. For Shark Week. For Shark Week. Not even for the movie. Like they gave him the footage to put on his YouTube. Like that was the Miaculpa like the Shark Week people were we can actually have the footage.

It's brutal. And then Steveo talks about it as well and he was like we all knew this was not a smart thing. He's like because in our time with dealing with sharks and everything like that. He's like, sharks really don't fuck with you. And, you know, but these sharks were so hungry. He's like, I saw a leaf land like in the water and they all went nuts for the leaf. So then you drop poopies in there doing a literal jump the shark like Fonzie from Happy Days moment falls off. And then, and when you watch them race towards him, it is frightening.

Oh, that's awful. And there's no. And there's no insurance. I was actually thinking that that's like the best. the best gig. But like for Shark Week, it's like, oh, he didn't get paid, like, he didn't get paid extra for losing his hand because I'm sure he's signed everything away. Oh, I'm, oh, for sure. Oh, that's so upset. Yeah, it's really gnarly. And I just was like, it again, because my kids have gone so deep into it. We've really found

pockets that I didn't even know exist. Have they found or gotten to the, all of the TV shows? Yes, that's how we started. Oh, it is. Okay. Because I was like, I knew the movies would be great, but I was like, let's start on the TV show because it's harder to go backwards. It really is. It's a good ramp up. And so, you know, so that was the TV shows, which apparently, according to Jeff Tremaine and Johnny, they are in the middle of redoing because it was an interesting thing.

And just as somebody who worked at Viacom, I can identify with this, which is at one point when they were like, oh, yeah, we need you to. QC these, you lose the rights to certain music. Now, Human Giant was a show that we knew about digital and DVD. So we really picked our music and hired musicians and we owned a lot of our music. But back in the day, Jackass and Real World, they would just play the top 40. They would play any song they wanted. And then it's like things like the state had that too. And you can't release it because you don't have the rights to it.

But back then MTV. It's why shows like Moon, or 30-something or my so-called life spent so long not being able to stream was because they had huge music rights problems. It's really wild, yeah. So I guess what happened was at one point, they weren't really cue seeing it as closely as they should have. So they have some issues with some of the music choices that are in there.

And like, I mean, I will say in watching it didn't really like, you know, but I do think that they're actually very careful and really selective about the music that they pick. So I also feel like it's one of those things. It's like, well, it wasn't picked by us. You know, and it's not going to be as good. Oh, well, I would, I mean, a box set of all of the jackass stuff would be so fucking funny. Oh, God. That would be an incredible.

I would love that. And I also love that they always, one of the things I always appreciated it was that they would put out a new movie. And then the next year they would put out like 45 minutes worth of, like, an extended cut of that movie with 45 extra minutes of stuff. Right. And it was very rarely, because we've watched all of those, the 2.5s or whatever, you know, it's very rarely the same bits, different openings, fully different bits. Like, it's not even extensions.

It really, like, I didn't understand that and never really watched this because, like, I already saw it. Like, I guess what? I can see a couple more ball hits. It was like, oh, no, no. It's a fully different film. Yeah. It's genuinely stuff that is like, oh, maybe they didn't get.

get enough of this, but it's still very satisfying. Very good. Yeah, I really, I really enjoyed it. It's like watching the Lord of the Rings extended cuts. That's what a lot of people say. If I was to revisit a jackass movie, like a Lord of the Rings movie, I would only

watch the extended cuts. Well, you see, that's why you're a purist. I mean, that is the way that they're supposed to be watching. You know, Johnny is my Frodo, and stevo is my pip and Pontius is I'm Mary and

Oh, please somebody draw that. I would love to see that. Somebody do all of the, yes, all of the map the fellowship onto the jackass crew. And by the way,

the island that they're on, it should definitely look like a dick and balls. Like an old map writing. I would love to see that. Oh my gosh. It's called middle girth. Ha, ha.

Now, Jason, I know it's taken the world by storm and I'm slow to catch up this stuff. And I feel like you might have been ahead of the game and told me about it, but Nirvana, the band, the movie, is amazing. So I did not tell you about it. Okay. I suspect maybe Seth or Owen did because they are heavy into it. Okay. So I haven't seen it, but I've talked to them about it. Now, are you aware of the fact that it, like the trip, is based on a TV series? Based on a web series that brought the TV series forward. So I've watched it all. So

I watched the movie. It was great. And I was so blown away by it. Then I went back, found the web series, watched all 10 episodes of that, and now am working my way slowly through the TV series just because I'm enjoying it so much. I don't want to wreck it. But by the way, but you don't feel like, oh, I wish I'd watch the TV series first or I wish I'd gotten it done it in a different order. I think it's fulfilling on both ways that you watch it. they do a great job.

I mean, the premise is divinely simple. It's just like, two guys want to play at this club. That's it. And that is from episode one of the web series to the film, the same quest. It is like the roadrunner and coyote. It's like coyote wants to get the roadrunner. And any which way he gets there, it's like, well, start back at, we'll start back at one. Like it just, you know, so that's really.

what makes the show so fulfilling. And I think that the guys are great. And I'm realizing, and this is just, I'm not without any spoilers or anything, because you shouldn't know anything about the movie. I didn't know a thing about it besides it was very funny. The thing that I realized was,

I believe, the way they are getting away with stuff, because they're getting away with a lot of stuff, a lot of stuff. It is to me, it's not a prank film. It has elements of a prank film. But what I think they're doing is they're treating like a documentary because they both play themselves. Oh, interesting. And they are both. And I think what they are

able to legally say is, yes, this is a documentary about us, we would like to play this place. Yeah. Now, whether or not they are, and one of the guys is a musician, so it does check out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, it's never out of that. So smart. So they can get the rights to things? I mean, I'm talking about, like, music cues, video clips. It all falls in fair usage because it's a doc. Because they're making a documentary. Yeah. And I, and, and it's ingenious. And once you start to see certain things, it's not a cheat at all, but it's really, you go, oh, because they dress the same pretty much all the time, too, very much like a cartoon. So it's like, oh, they got that, like, they're mixing and matching, like to get the storylines all

connected, but it feels like it's very running gun in the sense that there is actually, I can talk about this, but there's a very big story that happened in Canada. And they were across town shooting something else. And they're like, oh my gosh, why don't we use that as a backdrop for a bigger part of our story? They ran over there. And when you look at the news footage from that day, you can see them in the background doing their thing.

Oh, this is cool. Awesome. Oh, I'm excited. Yeah, so it's really, like, from a production standpoint, I literally have to theater going, like, it's the funniest thing. But also, I have more questions than Mission Impossible. Like, how did they? How they just, yeah. Oh, because it also seems like it would be so simple to understand.

Yes. But that is great. That makes me very curious. Because you're just like, because you get like, oh, Borat and Bruno, they're like, oh, he's going to a thing. Yeah. But they're doing stuff that I'm like, what? How? What is?

Oh, I love it. And I read a great interview with them, and they said something really cool, which was when the movie first started, I was looking at the credits. And because I like to support everybody in the arts, you know, not just about the people in front of the people. Sure, the below the line people are very important to you. I always say that. Yes. But there is a thing where, like, the VFX is really high up. And I was like, this movie needs VFX.

And then I'm like, oh, it does. Wow. And why is they're like, our VFX are there to make you, like, you. Like, you don't even know that they're there. And that's part of it, too. It's so, it hides seams and cleans up stuff. And you can't, like, yeah, so you don't know what, I mean, yeah, you don't, there's so much stuff that I'm sure this happening with little tweaks that you can't even tell. Oh, that's cool.

I think you'll love it. Yeah, I think you'll, will absolutely love it. But, yeah, highly. I will, I will recommend, I'm, you know, I love any and every detective show that is on television. Of course. And so there's been two that have been recently on that I've loved. I powered through all of young Sherlock. Oh, I've been, it's on my list.

Guy Richie, right? Guy Richie's Young Sherlock. It's an absolute blast. It basically is like college age Sherlock. And he becomes best friends with Moriarty. And it's basically like they're on cases that are, you know, that affect them, you know. And it's, it's, and Sherlock's whole family is a part of it. It's, um, not Ray Fines, Joseph Fines.

The brother is his father. And it's, it's great. And he's a Fines. The, Sherlock, the actor who plays Sherlock is a Fines as well, but not. What a Fines. What a fine, finds he is. Um, anyway, but it's got that, like, kinetic Guy Ritchie style and vibe. Oh, I love this.

I love that Guy Ritchie's, like, second coming is this, like, kind of cool shows and doing this. Did you, I mean, I was obsessed when I was obsessed when I was, a kid with young Sherlock Holmes, the movie. Oh, I didn't see it. Oh, okay. When I was a kid, there's a movie called Young Sherlock Holmes. I was like, the game was a foot. And that was the big part of it.

But it was a college age or, you know, a high school age. And it was, it was such a fun way to kind of do Sherlock. And it's a way to like, I don't know, it's like you can also give him, you can beat him down a little bit. Like he doesn't have to be Sherlock at full power. Well, that's what's fun about it is you are watching him. become that learn the lessons of Sherlock Holmes. He doesn't know everything. He's not, so he's kind of like stumbling his way through things, which is very fun.

And in many ways, Moriarty is more attuned to certain things and is more perceptive or, you know, they're having their competition of minds and deductive reasoning and all that kind of stuff. It's great. So no Watson. No, uh, no Watson. That makes sense. Because Watson's kind of coming in. Yeah, I think Watson's later.

But I'm trying to think if there's anybody who's like a Watson standing. It seems like Moriarty is or they are having that relationship. Or are they vice versa. It is more Moriarty. It is a two-hander for him and Moriarty, which is great. I love it. I also watched a show called Sherlock and Daughter in which David Thulis plays Sherlock. Wow. And this is like almost, I would say, a Y.A. Sherlock story.

because the main character is like his daughter, who is, I'm going to say, 17 or 18 or, you know, late teenage years age daughter who comes from, we think it's his daughter. There's some question mark. I'm looking at it right now, very white. It's a CW show. Yes.

Yes. And but also a blast. And by the way, great cast. And David Fulis is unreal in it. Yes. Do Grace Scott is in this? Yeah, wow, I love this. He plays the grown-up,

Moriarty. It's great. And that was also very satisfying and very fun. But a very light, both of them are very kind of like light Sherlock's, you know, which I love that. Oh, you know what has been killing me? I've been laughing so hard. The fall and rise of Reggie Dinkins. We talked about it before when it was just the pilot. Yeah. But absolutely, let's talk about it now because more episodes are finally available. And I, I like the pilot. I thought pilot was very funny. But man, oh man, it exponentially gets funnier and funnier and funnier. It's like, it's almost like a superpowered 30 rock in the sense that's like, okay, that's our premise. And boom, and boom, and boom. And it's like, and they're just, they are firing.

By episode four, you're like, this is just wall to wall. We just don't have many joke machine shows anymore. Like our, our comedies are feeling a little soft and a little sweet and or just a little not funny lately. And so this show, like that kind of Robert Carlock, Tina Faye, sharp, joke-dense shows, I'm missing, you know, like the Girls Five Evas and the 30 Rocks. And this is scratching that itch and then some. And it's really what I love to is like they, I also feel like, and I say this with the most love, Tracy's getting the rust off very quickly. Like in the beginning, I was like, oh, I don't know if this is like, I wanted to be kind of, And now I'm like, oh, he is in the pocket firing on all cylinders.

And I'm like, oh, this is really, really well done. And the cast just pops and great people popping up Corbynburnton in an episode. Craig Robinson and Heidi Gardner in there. It's got, it is, I think that show is dynamite. And my only, like, feeling is, like a lot of these shows that I think are so great, I just wish it was on NBC. Well, that's the thing. It's like, I don't know that people are in the habit of going to. to Peacock to find a show.

I think it was, I think what they did was they did play it on NBC after the Super Bowl. Yes. And then they played it again. And it had like this crazy rating. It was almost like it was like over because our buddy, Phil Jackson, who we do dinosaur with, he is one of the writers on it. I'm going to look at the thing because it's a crazy stat because I think what we're talking about is like, why don't they make these things?

Do people not want these things? And the answer is they love these things. They just don't know how to find them. Right. And it's like, you have to. get it on every possible thing. You just don't know. Yeah. Because people want to watch it. I'm just see what the status kind of crazy. And people, like, it's so hard because so many people watch things passively. And, you know, when you are having, you know, like when your shows on

Netflix or someplace that some service or something that everybody for the most part has, it gets those eyeballs. You know, it's like, um, um, uh, I was talking to Sam Richardson, who was saying that Detroiters has just been put on Netflix. And, and, you know, it's, It's finding a whole new audience and people are acting like, oh, I saw your new show. Well, this is, you know, and he's like, oh, no, that's a very old show. But thank you. And that's, and it's such a good thing. But something on Peacock, so few people have it and so few people know to go there to find the new Tracy Morgan show.

I totally agree. I mean, we've been fighting this fight. And I'll say it out loud here because if anyone works at Sony or Netflix, we can't get Black Monday to stream anywhere. And that's Don Cheadle, Regina Hall, Andrew Annals, me, Casey, Wilson. It's like, there's so many funny people on it. It's like, just get it on it. Like, why is it, like, trapped? It's not, it's just like, you can buy it.

But, like, put it on a streamer and let people watch these things. It's crazy. Like, it's just free. It's a free show. Like, what are you going to pay to a license? It's not going to be expensive. Here it is. This is the stat.

The fall and rise of Reggie Dinkins, the pilot ratings jumped more than a hundred percent reaching 13 million viewers since the premiere. And that was like over a month ago. But like $13 million is giant for a comedy. Great number. Great. I love that. And that's awesome.

And I hope it continues to thrive and create an appetite for more shows like this that are funny. Yeah. You know, not that are not, you know, and I love all the, all the comedies that are sweet and dromedies and the shows that are not funny like the bear, but are nonetheless considered comedies. It's a great show. We just don't need to have, we don't have to live, learn, love, and grow. We could just make people laugh and it's dumb. We can just do bits and enjoy them. Yes.

I mean, and that's your bond of the band, the show, you know, or the movie. Yeah, it's like ever. Or Jackass. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, Jackass is a show that I feel like, boy, is that such a funny show. It's so, so good. Well, Jason, let's get to work.

We'll fix that. And by the next episode, we should be on track. I feel like we'll get a bunch more. I think we'll have figured out everything. All right. Talk to you soon. All right. Thank you, Jason, for just chatting with me.

But now it is finally time to announce our next movie. Next week, we will be going from Nisa Love Cool Jason to Ladies Love Cool James. That's right. We are watching 2005's Mind Hunter, starring Val Kilmer, Christian Slater, and of course, LL Cool J. Oh, boy, I love this movie. IMDB describes it as this. A group of FBI trainees are taken to a remote island for a simulation, but once they are there, they realize that they are being hunted by a serial killer.

Ooh. Rotten Tomatoes gives this film a 25% score on the tomato meter, and Richard Rope. from Hebert and Roper says MindHenders is supposed to open in the spring of 2003, but they kept on pushing back the release date. They should have kept pushing. Ooh, Richard Roper with a slam. I like Richard. Let's take a listen to the trailer.

They are the FBI's newest profilers. You're all smarter you wouldn't be here. I just want you to be smarter. Training to get into the minds of the most elusive serial killers. Now, someone trained to think like a killer. There's just one problem. is about to become one. There's no one here.

But us. You can stream mine hunters on stars and Philo, and you can rent it at all the usual places that you rent movies. Okay, so that is it for last looks. If you listen to us on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, please rate and review us. Please also make sure you are following us and have automatic downloads turned on.

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