How Did This Get Made? - Last Looks: The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen

Episode Date: February 28, 2025

This week, Jason joins Paul to go over all your Corrections, Omissions, and Apologies from last week’s movie, The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Paul announces tour updates, Jason threatens to "...disconnect the discord", and Paul announces next weeks movie.  Jason's Picks:Mobilis by Junia Ma https://www.juniorlibraryguild.com/mobilis-my-life-with-captain-nemo-9781952203961jAirboy by James Robinson https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/airboy-deluxe-edition-james-robinson/1123290283 Discord User, Shawn McBee posted his conversation with LXG screenwriter, James Robinson here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ab6dgYwbfY HDTGM Spring Tour 2025 tickets are now on sale for Austin, Denver, Seattle, Boise, San Fran, Portland, & LA at hdtgm.com.Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of TraumaCheck out new HDTGM movie merch over at teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmJoin the HDTGM conversation on Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheerVisit Paul’s YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheerFollow Paul’s movie recs on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer/Friend Zone w/ Paul and Rob Huebel live on Twitch every Thursday 5pmPT / 8pmET: www.twitch.tv/friendzoneLike good movies too? Listen to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson: https://www.unspooledpodcast.com/Listen to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael: www.thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcastWhere to find Paul, June, & Jason:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on social media Get access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Disconnect the Discord! Last Lux! Last Lux! Last Lux! Last Lux! Last Lux! Last Lux! Last Lux!
Starting point is 00:00:16 Last Lux! Last Lux! Last Lux! Last Lux! Last Lux! Hello my freaky darlings! We say Last Looks. Hello, my freaky darlings. I'm your host, Paul Scheer, and this week, we have Jason along with us for the entire episode
Starting point is 00:00:32 of How Did This Get Made? Last Looks, where you, the listener, get to voice your issues on. The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, a movie that Discord user Johnny Unusual thinks should have had the tagline, The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Menace in Venice. Thank you, Johnny Unusual, for that the tagline, the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen menace in Venice. Thank you, Johnny Unusual for that alt tagline.
Starting point is 00:00:47 Remember if you have an alt movie tagline or title, submit it to us on our Discord and we might just read it on the show. Jason, I needed to bring you in today because you know, very rarely do you and I talk about the show after the show is over. And we were in Telluride and we both took a moment to talk about
Starting point is 00:01:06 our experiences watching League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. It shook us. Right, yes. It was such a bad movie, it was so bad, and it left such a bad taste in my mouth that I had to, because we had talked about Alan Quartermaine and all of that adventure, kind of serialized adventure storytelling, I had to watch Raiders just to get the taste
Starting point is 00:01:28 of that movie out of my mouth. I watched Raiders and then I will, this is a plug, I will shout out the Blank Check podcast with our friend Brian Michael Bendis, incredible comics writer. So good. Is the guest, it's over three hours long, it's incredible. It's really a great episode of Blank Check, talking about Raiders. It's over three hours long. It's incredible. It's really a great episode of Blank Check
Starting point is 00:01:46 talking about Raiders. It's really, really good. And I did the opposite, which is I just listened to the episode because I know Raiders so well, but now I want to watch it again. But I did what you did before you recorded the episode, which is I went back to the comic books and I was like, the comic books are great.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Oh yeah. This is a man. So good. We're gonna get into it because the discord's very upset that we're upset with them, but I know. I don't care. I don't even wanna hear about the discord
Starting point is 00:02:16 in casual conversation. You're gonna hear about it. But first, a big shout out to Dan from Rochester who gave us that amazing theme song. We love these songs. Send it to us at how did this get made at earwolf.com. Keep it short. 15, 20 seconds is best. All right. I mean, let's just talk about this by the way, big announcement.
Starting point is 00:02:35 Um, we are making a little bit of a change on our, uh, our spring tour. Our spring tour has spring tour. What, what, what? Spring tour. That's right. We're coming to your town. Boise, Denver, Portland, Austin. Austin, Seattle, San Francisco.
Starting point is 00:02:55 We are gonna be there and also in LA. Tickets are available at HDTGM.com. Now here's the thing. Here's the thing. If you're in Texas and you wanna come to the show, but you think you or someone in your family might have measles, please don't come. Don't come.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Because the last time I came to Texas, you motherfuckers gave me COVID. And what I don't want right now is either bird flu or the measles. So Texas, get it together. And by the way, I want to shout out Idaho. Idaho, figure yourself out. This is the only venue so far that I'm like,
Starting point is 00:03:27 wait, this is how many people are coming out? How did this get made? The first time I've ever been shocked, aghast at the audience numbers. So come on out, Boise. Idaho apparently hates the podcast. I don't understand it. Not interested in the podcast.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Prove us wrong, Idaho. You tell us, you come out come out all right We're coming out you come out now, too But now how come you never come to Idaho how come you never come to us guess what we are now meanwhile I'm your town Denver says come to our town the minute we put that on sale like almost sold out immediately fuck Yeah, Denver mile high to absolutely blazed they got it they Denver, mile high, absolutely blazed. They got it. They understand.
Starting point is 00:04:06 They're ready to rock. Have we announced movies yet? We have not announced movies, except for the LA shows because they're rescheduled. But I will say we are burying the lead a little bit because June will be with us in Los Angeles, but she will not be with us for the rest of the tour. Bum, bum, bum. She got a very, very cool part and something that I can't announce yet, but we will be able to announce it soon,
Starting point is 00:04:31 but we have a replacement. We've opened up the safe, the vault. We broke the glass in case of emergency. And we got her. We got Jessica Sinclair to join us the entire tour. The entire tour. And we've, we've got, we've managed to talk to every venue and she will be given a mic that cannot exceed a certain volume.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Ah, it is going to be, it's going to be interesting for me because this is the first time we'll have gone on the road together where I don't have, uh, children or my wife with me. Not that that's gonna, just will allow me to eat later and do stuff like that. But I'm excited for this. I think it's gonna be absolutely fantastic to have Jess with us.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Oh my God. As part of our agreement with every city and every venue, all the venues will be encircled by trash cans on fire. So both to give everybody a chance to warm up, but also to really make St. Clair feel welcome. You know what? We got to tell, we got to tell Avril when she picks movies, not the discord, about how we can kind of cater some movies to Jess.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Yes, absolutely. This, this, this, without telling St. Clair, the podcast tour should every step of the way increasingly get more and more into dystopian trashcan fires. Like, I want Jess feeling like she's lost her mind by the end of the tour. We are gonna break her by the end of this tour. By the time she gets to San Fran, she will be a chef. Oh, who are we kidding?
Starting point is 00:06:03 She's arriving broken. All right, let's take a quick break. We're going to jump into corrections and omissions and get ready. People had a lot to say about the league of extraordinary gentlemen. I assume all they had to say was, I'm sorry we voted for this. We'll find out in a second. Okay. Last week we talked at length about the league of extraordinary gentlemen. We had questions and we might've even missed a second. Howdy, Disco V. Howdy, Disco V. Okay, last week we talked at length about the league of extraordinary gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:06:27 We had questions and we might've even missed a few things. I don't think we missed that much. I don't think we missed anything. It was a fucking snooze. A slog. But a lot of you called in and you wrote on the Discord. So let's get into it. Guys, guys, you know what?
Starting point is 00:06:42 Value your time. Value your time more. We do love the Discord. I don't like all of this. Who does your time more. We love the, we do love the Discord. I don't like all the- Who does? Don't include me in that one. I love the Discord. I don't love the Discord around the Discord being upset that we're upset with their pick.
Starting point is 00:06:54 But anyway- Oh my God, give it a rest. I'm not interested in hearing from anybody. Young William, take us in with a Corrections and Omissions theme. All right, thank you, young William. All right, this is first up in the discord from John Not Connor. Now he writes, I won't vouch
Starting point is 00:07:33 for the movie's complete historical accuracy, but I think it is meant to be real turn of the century world that we learned about in history class, melded with many of the books that we were supposed to read in English class. In the late 19th century, technology was advancing much faster than it had been before, making new weapons and modes of transportation possible. Also, the European powers were dividing up the world and forming secret treaties requiring to go to war if any ally was attacked. These were the conditions that led to a worldwide war
Starting point is 00:08:03 in 1914, but that would have been 15 years after the time of this movie. So this movie posits that World War I could have happened in 1899, if not for the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Well, that's just a factual... I mean, yeah, sure. Honestly? John, not Connor? Who cares? Who cares? And I mean that with all due respect, because, yes, anybody here can say,
Starting point is 00:08:34 there's an interesting confluence of characters and actual history and fantasy characters melding together at a particularly interesting time in history and blah, blah, blah. You can even say, Jonathan, not Connors, that the books, the Alan Moore comics, are themselves a fascinating dip into this period and these characters and what is itself super interesting.
Starting point is 00:09:03 A faithful adaptation of these comics could have been a fascinating movie. What we got, what we covered was boring, was bland, and I don't value a movie that could have been great. I spent two hours watching a movie that was slow, boring, and ineffective. So the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, they only postponed World War I.
Starting point is 00:09:27 That's at the end of the day, it's like, cool, I guess. I don't know, I mean, I guess. What did you do? What did they do? They got us to like the war starts in 1914? Cool. Okay. All right. Thanks, thanks League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:09:40 This movie is a failure and everybody texting or whatever they're writing to us on should be just saying, you know what, our bad. We liked it because it's bad or it's such a bad. And these aren't even the complaints. These are just people that are giving us some facts to put it in. I don't need them.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Well, somebody like Rudlon, he goes, you know, I wonder what the sequel would have been. You know, the sequel comic miniseries had the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen dealing with the aliens from H.G. Wells' War of the Worlds. And- Listen, we all read Black Dossier. We know the stories.
Starting point is 00:10:15 They could be good. That's not what you made us watch-fuckers. Well, that's the issue, right? It could be, anything could be good. I mean, go- Anything could be good. I feel like a lot of the feedback is it could have been good. And here, yes, yes, we agree with.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Yes. That's why we are so upset. Now ghost bag does. I like when people go to town on the, uh, on the math and the science of it. Cause ghost bag writes, okay, how is the Nautilus that's the big ship traversing the narrow 16 feet deep Venice canals, given both its height and length? Looking it up on Google, the Nautilus measures 70 meters, that's 230 feet long and 26 feet wide. The ship in this film seems to be a bit longer than that,
Starting point is 00:11:00 so there's no way it's making those narrow turns. No, it's inside of the Venice canals. What are we talking about? But here's the thing. Even something as stupid as that, if the movie had been successful, I would not care at all. Well, that's that you never question it if it were... I wouldn't give a shit. But the movie is so, uh, such an offense to logic and narrative
Starting point is 00:11:24 storytelling that all of the little nitpicks that the Nautilus could never The movie is so, such an offense to logic and narrative storytelling, that all of the little nitpicks that the Nautilus could never fit in the Venice canals, et cetera, et cetera, are only even more annoying because they can't do anything right in this movie as far as I'm concerned. They have all of the playing pieces for such a fun adventure filled story.
Starting point is 00:11:45 And all they do is nothing. It's a slap dash. It's a slap dash. And this is what goes into a dove is saying, cause dove is saying like, look, this movie did not care at all. As a matter of fact, at the end, when they go to Sean Connery's grave,
Starting point is 00:11:59 they misspell the name quarter main, right? It is spelled quarter like the currency when it's actually spelled Q-U-A-T, no R. So I mean, how could you misspell the character's name on the pivotal moment for this? The movie is lazy, it is boring, and it is a waste of an incredible property, incredible characters, largely fantastic actors.
Starting point is 00:12:27 I don't understand what people are annoyed about. I couldn't find it, but I just wanna recommend the Junya Ba graphic novel that's all about Captain Nemo and the Nautilus. And it's a giant book and it's absolutely gorgeously drawn and it's a beautiful story about Captain Nemo finding a little girl and raising her on the Nautilus and it's awesome and it's a stunning book.
Starting point is 00:12:52 I want you to remember your joy for that because now we're gonna get into some things that are gonna make you angry. All right, we're gonna go to the phones and we are gonna hear from Jen who is defending the Discord vote. Hi, Paul, my name is Jen, and I am calling to defend the Discord vote
Starting point is 00:13:10 for the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. I think for a lot of us who are fans of the podcast, who've been watching for a really long time, this might've been the first really bad movie that we saw in theaters. I know I'm a Discord member, I voted for it, and the reason I did is right before I went off to college I remember seeing this in theaters with my dad and thinking that this was a truly terrible movie. We laughed
Starting point is 00:13:37 the whole time, it was one of the worst things we've ever seen and I just have that memory. I'll also add that my dad has passed away, but we did go see the live show of you guys in Durham, and he did laugh throughout it, so thanks. Aw. That is, I love that. Oh, Jen, how can I be mad at Jen? Jen really knew that you might be coming at her,
Starting point is 00:13:58 so she had to kinda- I was ready to be fired up at Jen, and then she comes in with a dead dad? Not only a dead dad, but a dead dad who's a fan of the show? I mean, this is, you know, like she, wow. Thank you, Jen. I'm gonna say this, and this is the issue that we always talk about on the show, and it's great that every now and then we prove the point,
Starting point is 00:14:17 which is just because it was a bad experience for you and it's a bad movie does not mean it's a bad movie. Like, by the way, I see tweets, people are like, you know what you should do on how did this get made? The Brutalist. I'm like, first of all, I love it. I love The Brutalist. And it's like, well, just because it wasn't enjoyable to you,
Starting point is 00:14:40 like it is not like a terrible movie. And this is the issue, it's like I was bored by it, so you guys, what can you guys do with it? Yeah, you know what it is? It's not, and I think I said something like this on the episode, but it's not enough that a movie is unsuccessful or bad or boring. Because, actually, because a lot of those things
Starting point is 00:15:01 are just boring, like something that, like mistakes that we made early on, not mistakes, but movies that we covered early on without having Avril to vet stuff in the beginning meant that we covered movies that yes were bad, but we did them because we knew they were bad or unsuccessful or failures. The best example is the M. Night Shyamalan,
Starting point is 00:15:21 Avatar the Last, Airbender, adaptations adaptation. Which boy could that be a similar to the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Based on a beloved IP, a live-action version of a previously, you know, a graphic novel or an animated type of thing. A big-time people adapting it. Boy isn't this exciting, ba-ba-ba-ba, and then snooze, boring. Avatar the Last Airbender, the movie, is boring, and it's not a good for the show because it wasn't exciting or interesting.
Starting point is 00:15:57 They weren't making such big swings that they could fail enough, or they weren't finding themselves in situations that were juicy for us to dig in on or have fun with, it felt like it was boring or bored and I was bored with it. That's it. Jason, I don't wanna burn you out just too early
Starting point is 00:16:15 because look, people are still popping in with thoughts about the movie, this is what we do. And Aaron had some more insights about Sean Connery's Lord of the Ring connections. And this is something that I think is gonna be slightly interesting, maybe more interesting than the film, we'll see. Hi Paul, this is Aaron from Vermont.
Starting point is 00:16:32 You mentioned that Sean Connery turned down the role of Gandalf in Lord of the Rings. And Stuart Townsend, who played Dorian Gray, was actually cast as Aragorn and fired after production began with Peter Jackson apparently thinking he lacked the gravitas for the role. It's hard to imagine anyone besides Ian McCallan or Viggo Mortensen in those roles
Starting point is 00:16:53 and I think maybe we all lucked out in that respect. Anyway, I saw League of Extraordinary Gentlemen around when it came out and that was enough for me. Love the show, thanks, bye. Okay, that always bums me out when the show, thanks, bye. Okay. That always bums me out when you hear an actor getting fired. I was fired off of the Eddie Murphy movie, Meet Dave, I've talked about this in the past. You know, and it's always, you know, look,
Starting point is 00:17:14 there's a lot of reasons, and in my case, it was I didn't have a good enough butt crack. They wanted somebody to have a bigger butt crack than I did, so you know, look, there's a lot of reasons Gravita's butt crack, you name it. I like the, you know, Aaron from Vermont, love Vermont, shouts to Middlebury College
Starting point is 00:17:33 and all of Vermont, but I like those stories too. Like the actor who shot two weeks on There Will Be Blood and was replaced by Paul Dano, you know? Right. We all love those stories. I mean, Eric Stoltz and Back to the Future. I would love to see, I would love to actually see, because here's the thing. And I think it's, and it could be the same for this.
Starting point is 00:17:56 I'm fascinated because I know Eric Stoltz is a good actor, right? We've seen a body of work from Eric Stoltz to know he is not a bad actor, but for whatever reason, it didn't work and Well, and Zemeckis says, you know that it was too serious, right? And I would love to see it there was a darkness to Stoltz's Marty McLaugh And I would have loved to have seen that just to see the different take
Starting point is 00:18:17 I mean, that's kind of the fun of it. Oh, wouldn't that be great? They only just play it without the the audio track up. It drives me crazy Come on at this point thing about, and to Aaron's point, I love stories like this. It's great to hear about what Sean Connery didn't do or to imagine a Lord of the Rings, blah, blah, blah. Does any of that make it worth it for us to sit through League of Extraordinary Gentlemen for two hours?
Starting point is 00:18:37 No. Absolutely not. It's not worthwhile enough. The special interest tidbits are not value added enough for a slog of a movie. Okay. Jason, you got me thinking and I'm just curious. Did I ever show you some of the lost Back to the Future auditions? Oh, no, for sure. I've never seen any of these. I'm just going to play a clip of it. You can find them online. This is so much fun, I think. All right, I guess you can kind of pick who you wanna see.
Starting point is 00:19:11 This is, I got Billy Zane as Biff. I got Peter DeLuis as Biff. Ah! I got Kieric Cedric as Biff. Yeah, Kieric Cedric is great. I think I wanna show you. Oh, and chemistry test together. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:19:29 I'm gonna show you Ben Stiller as Marty McFly. Great. Here we go. So what do your parents like? Are they as square as mine? Lorraine, lately I've come to the conclusion I don't know anything about my parents. Why are you so nervous? Well, have you ever been in a situation where,
Starting point is 00:19:48 well, you know you have to act a certain way, but when you get there, you're not sure you can really go through with it? Like when you're out on a first date with someone? Sort of. I mean, there it is. That's kind of great. So they have like so many great people auditioning.
Starting point is 00:20:05 It's a really fun one to watch. Oh yeah. And I love stuff like that. I loved the SNL special recently. That was just an hour of people talking about their auditions. Watching their auditions. Oh, so uncomfortable. I was uncomfortable for them.
Starting point is 00:20:18 It made me so upset. Okay. This is just another clarification of Mina Harkness from Devon in Brooklyn. Here we go. Hey, Paul, it's your resident nerd, Devon, calling out of Brooklyn, New York. I am listening to your lead of the extraordinary gentleman and a question with acts of Mina Harkness of why she can walk in the daylight and turn into a bunch of bats is that's the power of Dracula. So no, she has the blood of Vlad the Impaler.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Vlad the Impaler, who is a true vampire, can walk in the daylight and do all that crazy stuff. When he bites people and turns them, they turn into vampires or lesser vampires who can't walk in the daylight and have all those weird fetishes with the cross and the garlic yada yada yada. I mean it is a different lore but basically Mina in the leaves of the extraordinary gentleman has inherited Dracul's true blood. So she can walk in the daylight, she can, well, she can walk in the daylight, but her powers are halved. Anyway, I love this show, love you guys,
Starting point is 00:21:31 glad you guys are all safe from the fire. Please keep pumping out these podcasts because they bring me so much joy. See, great work. Loved it. Great work. Everybody who's called in so far is from some place I live. Is that, I mean, maybe we should just make that part of the Collins, you have to be there. Uh.
Starting point is 00:21:49 And this, this I don't mind because, okay, yes, great. So Amina Harkness, who is, you know, a huge part in the books. I've also continued to go on and read the books. Yeah. Um, yes, Vlad the Impaler, and, and my understanding is Vlad the Impaler and Dracula are different is Vlad the Impaler and Dracula are different. Vlad the Impaler, a historical character,
Starting point is 00:22:08 Dracula, a fictional character. So thank you, Davon. Well, again, I like a comment like that. It's really good. And I think we're gonna get another one like that from Micah in Illinois. Hey guys, Micah from Illinois. Love your show.
Starting point is 00:22:22 You guys have kept me alive. I've been driving an hour to work every morning. On the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen episode, you talked about the fact that Sean Connery turned down The Matrix, at least one other job to do this one. I heard in an interview years ago that the reason he accepted the role of, you know, Quartermaine in this movie was because he had turned down the matrix because he didn't understand the script. And then when he realized how big of a mistake that was, he promised himself he would jump on the next script that he didn't understand. And unfortunately for him, it was the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:23:03 All right. Well, anyway, guys, you know, keep doing God's work. Thanks so much. And I'll hear you all in the morning. Bye. Oh, no, this is interesting because I have I have heard this story as well. And I think the the way he's kind of put it together is actually quite interesting in the sense that he's a gay. I won't like I'm I'm clearly not hip enough to get it. And I can I could see, yeah, yeah, yeah. I won't like, I'm clearly not hip enough to get it.
Starting point is 00:23:26 And I can see, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. This is what these idiots that America is gonna like. I'm gonna do this movie and just being so, so wrong about it in every way. I do love that. Yeah, oh, and I think, you know, I also think that, you know, there, if you're in that position where you've missed out on these kind of massive properties
Starting point is 00:23:45 that go on to be massive hits, and you are given this, and not for nothing, you know, maybe, I'm certain this was a bad script, but at the very least, it had the, it was coming with the kind of... The right lineage, right? Yes, I mean, an Alan Moore comic series. Like, these are, the people behind the scenes
Starting point is 00:24:04 are real people. It's not just like Sean Connery's taking a flyer. So I understand why he made this choice, but boy, you know, he was led astray and what a disappointment for him, I'm sure. And it puts him out of the business basically. And look, and now we're gonna go away from this for a second and say, yes,
Starting point is 00:24:21 we got a bunch of other corrections in here. We got like that Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. Mr. Hyde. Mr. Hyde was never very big. He was very small. Then somebody else points out something like, uh, Tom Sawyer was published in 1872, which would make sense why he would be a grownup in 1899. But the problem is the story was set in the 1840s.
Starting point is 00:24:37 So at this point, Tom Sawyer would be about 60 or 70 years old. And now at this point, we're just like, all right, well, now we're just pulling out threads again, it's not even worthy of pulling out these threads because- Yeah, I feel like people are trying to say like these are avenues you should have talked about. Yes. And I'm like, why?
Starting point is 00:24:54 Now, here's what I got. This is the one I've been saving for you because I think this is actually a really good one. This is from Sean McBee, a great corrections and omissions person who is writing to us about some information that he has not seen published anywhere, he got this information directly from the screenwriter, James Robinson, okay?
Starting point is 00:25:18 And all of this is from an interview that he did with James on an old podcast, okay? So this is what he wrote, he said when James- I'm so sorry, what's the podcast? Should we- I don't know. Oh, okay, got it, got it, got it. Now, when James is hired to write this, only the first six issues of the comic had been released.
Starting point is 00:25:36 It wasn't zero, as Paul claimed, but that was my research. And one of the initial conditions placed on his adaptation was that it had to include a younger member over the concern that the it was a comic book. And so, the only thing that was a little bit more complicated than what he was trying to do was to make the script look like it was a comic book.
Starting point is 00:25:52 And so, the only thing that was a little bit more complicated than what he was trying to do was to make the script look like it was a comic book. And so, the only thing that was a little bit more complicated than what he was trying to do was to make the script look like it was a comic book. And so, the onlySA Golden Age miniseries and countless other things.
Starting point is 00:26:09 And he tried very, very hard to be true to Alan Moore's original comics, but was impeded by several factors. As an example, the original script involved a Prussian villain who was planning on unleashing a flesh eating gas on New York where the film would primarily take place, but then 9-11 happened and the studio said, we gotta pivot away from that. We can't be in New York where the film would primarily take place. But then 9-11 happened and the studio said, we got to pivot away from that.
Starting point is 00:26:28 We can't be in New York. We can't have an attack. And then a bunch of producers came forward and they're like, well, we got to change a lot of stuff. We got to reshape this entire thing. We got to get it to check all these boxes. And that's how the movie became what it is. He goes, if anyone wants to hear this 18 minute long
Starting point is 00:26:45 league of extraordinary gentlemen discussion, he posted it to YouTube, just for the how did this get made crowd. There's a lot more information there and you can find it on a link that we'll have in our show notes, but you can also find it on the discord. So that I think kudos, kudos to you.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Super interesting. You came in, you gave us some info, I love that. And James Robinson, a truly fantastic comics writer. Like one of the legendary comics writers of that era. You know, so I think super interesting. And that sounds like an interview I'd be more interested in listening to than I would be to watch the movie,
Starting point is 00:27:18 The Leaguer's Strip. I mean, there's many things I'd like to be doing that are painful that I'd like to do more than watch a movie again. You know what, and honestly, without any further ado, that's the winner. I mean, that's the winner of this week. That's the best one.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Yeah, can I, let me just, let me, I'll just shout out one James Robinson comic that I think is worth reading is his, it's cause it's short and it's full gonzo insanity and it's called Air Boy. Ooh, okay. It is a fantastic comic series from, I don't know, maybe 10 or so years ago, maybe longer now.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Well, Sean McBee, you are the winner. You don't get anything, but you get this amazing theme by Bombay Beach Revival. Hit it. ["You Will Be My Man"] You will. Kill me. All right, now if you wanna chime in with your own thoughts, You will kill me! All right. Now, if you want to chime in with your own thoughts,
Starting point is 00:28:08 do it at your own peril. I mean, after this week, you know, look, we really served you up. But we're gonna get to some... Yeah, or just think of them to yourself and enjoy your own cleverness and don't feel like you need to send it to us. But we do need something to fill up these episodes. We do need something. We do?
Starting point is 00:28:24 Well, I mean, we could make it all just chat. I'll just listen. I mean, we could talk about Shorzy. We have Shorzy's back. We can talk about A Thousand Blows, the new Stephen Knight show. We can talk about Reacher season three. I want to talk about the Lauren book, the Lauren Michaels book.
Starting point is 00:28:38 The Lauren book? Oh, so good. All right. Anyway, make sure you hit up a... Disconnect the Discord. Discord.gg slash HDTGM or call us at 619-P-A-U-L-A-S-K. All right, we'll be right back. Anyway, make sure you hit up disconnect the discord discord. Dodgy G slash H D T G M or calls at six one nine P U L A S K. All right, we'll be right back. Jason, we are back and I'm sure that you've noticed that every week we release old how this get made episodes back into the feed.
Starting point is 00:28:59 They're matinee episodes and we had some good ones. We just re released the number 23, which is still one of my favorites that we've done. That's a Jim Carrey movie where he was obsessed with member. Oh yes, it's like a thriller. Topsy secrets. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Great. Top secrets.
Starting point is 00:29:14 And then, and then this week is one that was kind of out of the box, but I love this one too. This is the Justice League, the Snyder Cut with Griffin and David. I love those guys. And they're doing an amazing series on Spielberg right now. Which I was just about to say, they're doing the early Spielberg movies right now. ET, Jaws, Close Encounters of the Third Kind. They have been incredible episodes. I'm bummed that we're not in it,
Starting point is 00:29:40 but I also feel like we don't deserve to be in those. We need to be on the outside. We gotta be in the US. I'm so sorry. We't deserve to be in those. We need to be on the outside. We gotta be in the- I'm so sorry. We absolutely deserve to be in there. They've got the fucking Doughboys on there. Oh, well then now, all right, all right. If you've got Mitch and Tiger Weiger on the show, you can have the How Did This Get Made boy.
Starting point is 00:29:59 By the way, you and I are gonna be appearing together, I believe, on the Doughboys for the- Oh, for Munch Madness. Munch Madness, I believe, on the Doughboys for the March Madness. I'm very excited about that. But let's double down. We're definitely doing it together. We are definitely gonna be on it together. So don't let anyone dissuade you from that.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Jason, well, you know what? The Discord has caused a lot of- The Discord of the Discord. Well, you know what? Now they're coming with their hat and their hand, their big Dr. Hyde hat in their hand, their big Dr. Hyde hat in their hand with some apologies. And here is an apologies theme.
Starting point is 00:30:40 This is from Keithasaurus Rex. Personal correction. I am sorry for voting for League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. I had never seen it and I had had hopes. A movie with so much exposition left so much unsaid, the characters spent more time fighting with and rearranging furniture than the Property Brothers.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Bam! This is how we ended up with a second term of Donald Trump. I haven't seen it, but I voted for it. Get it together, Keithasaurus Rex. It's time to know what you're voting for. Don't vote from a place of ignorance. Do the research. Now, Ghost Bag writes,
Starting point is 00:31:18 I admit I voted for this film to be covered, but when I watched it on Amazon Prime one day out of boredom, I sat there with my mouth agape, wondering how something like this could have ever been made. Apologies to Jason, but I need some sort of post-traumatic review of this film, and a podcast titled, How Did This Get Made,
Starting point is 00:31:33 Seemed Like the Best Place to Go to Properly Break This Piece of Shit Movie Down. I don't wanna be in the business of helping you out of a traumatic- We're trying to keep the energy light here, people. We wanna make this a fun journey. This is not a, we're not trying to trauma bond with you as the audience.
Starting point is 00:31:51 We're trying to have fun, assholes. All right, well, let's get one final apology. And this one is, we can hear it. We don't have to have me read it. Here we go. Sorry, the Discord voted for League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. It wasn't my choice and only serves to further erode my confidence in the democratic process.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Um, I love this show. I feel so bad that you guys hate it, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, because it's my one of my favorite bad movies. The CGI is terrible and like Jason said, it's a really good book. Yeah, it is. It is a good book and it's also a very bad movie. Both of those things are true. I'm not trying to take it away from you guys who voted for a bad movie.
Starting point is 00:32:34 It is bad. Well, they got it. They got it and as a matter of fact, we're gonna try to make it okay in a way with our next movie. So Jason, thank you for joining me for this. This was awesome to have you here. Uh, and, uh, you know, now I feel like we've laid down the law.
Starting point is 00:32:49 People, you can come back next week and you can write your, your math equations and your ship sizes. I will not come at you as hard as Jason did. Disconnect the discord. That's our lock the gates. Okay. Next week, we'll be going from a joyless journeys to some double trouble. That's right. Next week, we are watching doppelganger starring Drew Okay, next week we'll be going from joyless journeys to some double trouble.
Starting point is 00:33:05 That's right, next week we are watching Doppelganger starring Drew Barrymore and George Newburn. Oh wow, always wanted to see them together. Here's a short breakdown of the plot. Our main character, Holly, flees from Los Angeles to New York after a fatal incident mysteriously involving her family. While starting an affair with the young writer she happens to be renting a room from Holly finds herself being stalked by a homicidal maniac who happens to look just like her Is it her evil twin? hallucination malignity or as the film is dubbed
Starting point is 00:33:38 Doppelganger you'll have to watch to find out this film has a 24% on Rotten Tomato and a letterbox user This film has a 24% on Rotten Tomato and a letterbox user, Sophie Sinema calls it, a bloody hellraiser of a beef flick that cycles ludicrously from cable-era wet dream to Lovecraftian nightmare, from masturbation to defenestration. Holy cow. Now I want to see it even more. All right, listen to the trailer. Remember, this was the runner up in the Discord pick. Holly has found someone new. Sorry, I scared you.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Someone very secret. It's very romantic. Someone who hides from us all. Another self. A deeper, darker side that is capable of the unimaginable. And now the only thing she has to fear... ...is herself. You can stream Doppelganger for free on Tubi, Filo, and the Roku channel, Dailymotion and more.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Now I encourage you to also check out Hoopa Canopy and Libby, which are digital media services offered by your local library that allow you to consume movies, TV, music, audio books, eBooks, and comics for free. All right, that's it everybody. Remember, if you listen to us on Apple podcasts or Spotify, please rate and review us. Please also make sure that you are following us
Starting point is 00:35:03 and have automatic downloads turned on. It helps the show and we appreciate it. You can visit us all on social media at HDTGM and a big thank you to our producers. That's right, Cody Fisher, Molly Reynolds and our movie-picking producer Averill Halley, who has been sidelined for two weeks due to you Discord users. Oh man. Anyway, our associate producer is Jess Cisneros and our engineer is Casey Holford. We'll see you next week for Doppelganger.

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