How Did This Get Made? - Last Looks: The Specialist

Episode Date: April 14, 2023

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Who was Gianni Anginelli? What happened to Timer the Cat and Steven Segal sings? All this and more on today's Last Looks, places people, it's showtime! Hello all you hotel shower floor fuckers, I'm your trigger man Paul Scheer and welcome to How Did This Get Made, Last Looks, where you, the listener, get to voice your issues on the specialist. Jason and I chat about all the stuff that we are currently into, plus we will reveal next week's movie and I will share an exclusive bonus scene from our last episode.

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And now, I want to see you all out at I'd Hit That, it is a deep dive, bitch sesh crossover, Mother's Day weekend pickleball event. Those are a lot of words all coming together, it is super fun, I am DJing, you can head to the Jane Club slash pickleball, use the code HDTGM for 15% off, it is so much fun. Last time, Emma Watson from Harry Potter, she came, she played, she kicked ass, so many people are going to be there at this event, it is so much fun, it's a great gift for the mother in your life, or maybe you don't have a mother and you're like, I don't want to worry about Mother's Day, come to that as well, get drunk, play pickleball, have fun

with some of your favorite people, it's the I Hit That event, I love it so much. Okay, let's get into it, last week we talked at length about the specialist, a movie that according to Discord user Rocket Wesker, should have had the tagline, tits dick boom, love that. Now, we all had questions about the specialist, and we might have even missed a few things, here is your chance to set us straight, fact check us if you will, it is now time for corrections and omissions, bam, thank you Wally Tarkington for that great theme, let's go to the Discord, corgi herder writes suggested by credits are a real thing in Hollywood, for example, the

original Top Gun movie had a suggested by credit for an article called Top Guns in California magazine, Rai Rai 80 times and to say, Scrooge, iRobot, the sound of music also have suggested by credits, alright, I didn't know that suggested by because inspired by based on would be more appropriate like based on the article Top Guns in California magazine, but not suggested by suggested by means like you bumped into somebody at Mendocino farms and like would be a good movie, like a bomb specialist who gets hired by like his former mentor, who's out to kill him but then he falls in love with the girl who set out to, you know, set him up.

Anyway, I'll take that pork bun me. Thank you. That would be suggested by anyway, Sheila from Sweden writes Stallone is wearing his wrist watch over his shirt sleeve, it's got to be a nod to Italian stallion playboy industrialist and billionaire Johnny Anginelli, the former head of Fiat. Now Scott our producer notes that John G. Anginelli was known as the godfather of Sprexatura, an Italian term meaning a certain nonchalance to make whatever one does appear to be without effort or thought to exemplify this, Anginelli famously wore his watch over his shirt cuffs

and tucked the back blade of his neck tie into his waistband. I'm looking at this guy and he looks cool as shit. By the way, we should be wearing our watches on the outside of our shirt cuffs. They're always hidden. Got to roll up my shirt sleeve for this bullshit. No way. Anyway, GT 75 James Woods's character should have died in the police station when he builds his an impromptu bomb.

He sets the timer for 20 seconds, but his rant and argument with the bomb squad guy lasts 40 seconds. Between that and a one minute timer for the bridge when it seems like the Jeep had to be exactly positioned over the bomb for it to be effective, I have to believe that Woods was terrible at being a trigger man. Well, here's the thing. Trigger man would mean that you actually press the explosive, not set the explosive. So maybe he's a bad detonator man.

Anyway, let's go to the phones. Jane from Toronto. Hi Paul. This is Jane calling from Toronto. I have an addition to one of the comments you made during the specialist live episode. The part where Sharon Stone walks into the room and like strips off her dress and then a sitting naked smoking a cigarette, which seems very dangerous. My interpretation of that is like the reason she put her dress in the garbage is because

she was so disgusted with Eric Roberts's character whose name I forget, but it was unnecessarily Cuban sounding. But she strips off the dress and like puts in the garbage. Like she's so grossed out and disgusted because he is like, she was all over her and because she hates him so much for obvious reasons. So I thought that was weird and I was like, oh, that's kind of like where my brain went. Curious if you or anyone else had the same interpretation. Thanks so much.

You know, that is a good point, Jane. I feel like I didn't bring this on the show. Did they have sex also? And then she's like, I just want to get that off of me. But Eric Roberts is all over her in a disgusting way. So maybe it's just like, I want to get that sweaty Eric Roberts smell off me. So I buy that. But you know what?

That's why we invented dry cleaning. Use some chemicals. Get out that Eric Roberts smell. That's exactly what my dry cleaners says when I go inside and get out that Eric Roberts smell. It's a Hollywood dry cleaner. So that's why they have to have that up. Ashley from Washington.

What do you got? Hi, Paul. This is Ashley calling from Washington. I was just finished listening to the most recent episode about the specialist and I couldn't help but hear a comment you've made in the background about a single use clothing and Toby McGuire's underwear. But I don't think I ever heard anything else about it. I was just curious if you could elaborate, sounds pretty interesting and hilarious.

Anyway, that's all. Thanks, bye. Well, what did I mean? Okay. So when I was talking about Toby McGuire and his underpants, I had heard that Toby McGuire only wears underpants once. That's it. He wears it once and then throws them away.

Just like Sharon Stone threw her dress like we just talked about from Jane from Toronto. Now Jason made a joke in the show that Sharon Stone only had a single use wardrobe, but I had heard this thing about Toby McGuire wearing underpants only once. And I've actually now heard this from a few different people that they do this, not just a Toby McGuire thing. It's a known thing. Like you don't want to put your junk back in there. It makes no fucking sense.

But look, if you had enough money to buy 365 pairs of underwear, then I guess, you know, I mean, how expensive could it be at the end of the day? How expensive could 300, if you buy it in bulk, give me some, let's get some price checks on that please for the next episode. All right. Next call from Reed from New Mexico. Hey, Paul, this is Reed in New Mexico. Listen to your specialist episode today and just wanted to make a clarification.

You guys said that Emilio Estefan was the musician for this film. The original music was done by John Berry with Emilio Estefan being the music supervisor. And John Berry, of course, is arguably one of the most important people in the history of the James Bond franchise and was knighted by the British Empire for his contribution to music in film and did double digits worth of James Bond films. If you listen to the music in the specialist, it does have a very, very mid 1960s flair of John or James Bond music. So just want to clarify that.

Thanks so much. Hope you guys are doing well and love the show. Bye bye. Reed, you are correct. I am sorry. I had that in my notes. John Berry did compose and I got it all confused. I didn't mean to not give credit where credit is due because the theme to the specialist is just

as classic as the James Bond theme. I think we all could agree, right? How does it go? Huh. Hmm. Can't really remember it. Anyway, all right. Thank you, Reed, from New Mexico.

Sophie from Boston. What do you got? Hey, Paul. This is Sophie from Boston. I'm calling that the specialist. Absolutely loved it. My fiance was so excited that I was watching it for the first time as a cat lover. I made it my mission to track Timer throughout the movie and I was so disappointed that

he didn't pop it up at the end with them. I agree with CinemaCats.com who states, having Elvis in the car, Elvis is the actor, Timer is his name in the movie, having Elvis in the car with Stallone and Stone as they drove away would have made the ending that much more satisfying. I completely agree, but it was not the end for Timer, Elvis the cat as he is known, who went on to star three years later in that darn cat with Christina Ricci. He only has those two credits on IMDb, but the best part is his trivia that states is a cat.

Love you all so much. Thanks for what you do. Bye. Okay. Sophie, great. All right. All right. So that, well, you know what, I'm glad that you have some Disney cat knowledge.

I don't even know how to respond to that comment besides saying it was wonderful. What a wonderful wish to have the Timer the cat got away with them. Where is Timer the cat? Maybe I think wanted to stay in Miami, right? I guess. If you, like that Miami lifestyle for cats is pretty good and she'll find another trigger man. Anyway, going back to the boards, Dr. Guts writes, how amazing would it have been if

Timer the cat started talking to Stallone with the voice of Eric Roberts, a la, how did this get made? Classic film, a talking cat. Well, Dr. Guts, that's a sequel. Aval, if you're listening, let's tell Aval to do that cut Eric Roberts from this to the talking cat. I don't know how we could do it. Maybe we could.

I would like to see that mashup. If anyone is inspired to do it, let's get that mashup going. Rocket Wesker writes Sharon Stone said that she wanted to be there when Tomas died. Fair enough. But how did she know that Stallone would choose Tomas at the country club using a T saucer bomb? He never told her about the plan and was very surprised when he saw her following Tomas into the room.

Yeah, I guess that was bad communication. But you know what? They're going to work it out. Those crazy kids. I feel like they're going to have a long, long life together. Ry-Ry 80 writes, Siskel and Ebert weren't fans of the movie. Oh, really? Wow, interesting.

I found their old review and this is Gene Siskel in particular just ripping on it. So here are his thoughts. Take a listen. By the way, that one minute of nudity really isn't worth sitting through the dreadfully dull action of the specialist. In the whole picture, I wanted Stallone to talk faster and drop his Rambo persona in favor of something contemporary. You know, maybe he and James Woods sort of switched roles.

I wonder what James Woods looked like in the shower. Great work, Ry-Ry. And you know what, Ry-Ry? For going deep, finding the old Siskel and Ebert review, I am going to give you the correction and omission of the week. That's right. You get this amazing song from Bombay Beach Revival. Hit it!

You know what, I'm stuck up for research. And if somebody comes back and tells me how much underwear costs if you buy 365 pair of good underwear, I'm talking like Haynes level or better. You know, Toby McGuire is not rocking Haynes or maybe he is and maybe that's why he can justify it. Who knows? Anyway, I would like to, I don't want to be, well, do I want to be in clean underwear? I mean, not like new underwear every day because that feels starchy to me.

Anyway, let's not take away from Ry-Ry 80s win and thank you Gene Siskel for always having an insightful take on any movie that you watch. If you want to submit a tagline for your film, if you want to chime in with your own thoughts, if you want to call in and tell us your wishes and hopes for Timer the Cat, you can do all of that. You can go to our Discord at discord.gg slash HDTGM where you can call us at 619 Paul Ask. Coming up, Jason and I chat about all the things that we are currently into. We'll reveal next week's movie plus I'll share an exclusive deleted scene from our

specialist show. Stick around. Welcome back, everybody. If you are interested in what is in the how to just get made feed this week, besides this and the specialist. Well, let me tell you, we got Super Mario Brothers with Jenny Slate back into the mix. Right to celebrate the release of Super Mario Brothers, the giant hit smash film. We are talking about the giant flop film, Super Mario Brothers with Johnny Legs and

John, not John Hopkins, not John Hopkins from the hospital. Bob Hoskins. Anyway, that's a fun episode because it's one of our first live shows and the first time we ever did corrections and omissions in the audience. So there you go. And next week, we will be releasing fast and furious with Adam Scott because we got to make sure that we are caught up by the time fast 10 comes out. We got to go back, refresh our memories and get ready for the big show.

Fast X is coming up and we'll be recording that live at Largo. We have two very special guests and maybe even a third special guest. And we also are revisiting or not even revisiting. We are visiting for the first time fast and furious in our April 21st show. So got a lot of stuff coming up. All right, we have spent a lot of time hearing from you and what's on your mind. But now let's hear from me and Jason and what is on our mind. And so the segment we like to call Just Chat and John Astonish play us in.

Jason and Paul, Just Chat, you and Paul, Just Chat, Paul, John Sheer, Just Chat, how did this get made? Last look. Just Chat. Jason, welcome back to a Just Chat. Just you and me. Just, just, just the two of us. Yes.

Come on. Here we go. Just, you know, I got to tell you, I think you would love this movie that I saw. I've been talking about it a lot, which is Dungeons and Dragons, All In Among Thieves. It's such a fun movie. And I just want to continue to tell people to go see it for a couple of reasons. Hey, I know it's a big hit already. But as my sister-in-law said when she saw it, she said, this movie is not for me.

And then when she saw it, she says, but it's exactly for me. Oh, wow. Yeah. It's a full-on comedy. In other words, anybody can enjoy it. You don't have to be a Game of Thrones or a Lord of the Rings person. You don't have to be a D&D nerd. It's for everybody.

It's just for everyone. It's so fun. It's so good. And I just, I'm just into a $150 million, like, budget comedy. Like make more of those, please, that are actually good and not like a disaster. Oh, yeah. But I'll tell you. Oh, that's great.

I love that. And I have one other thing that I need to geek out on with you. And if you're not there, we'll push it. But have you been watching Picard Season 3? I've not. Dude, it's the fucking best show. Really? It's, okay.

Don't worry about season. Oh, okay. Don't worry about season one or season two. I did not watch either one of them. I have never watched. Nope. Oh, okay. So this is intriguing to me.

Go ahead. I just started on season three. It is perfection. If you like Next Generation, this show is giving you everything that you could have wanted. There's only about one or two small details that you need to know from season one, which in watching season three, I was like, oh wait, what do they mean? And I googled it and I found out. Yeah.

It's amazing. But it's not like you're not lost in some larger plot. Like the first five minutes, you're like, oh, you're trying to piece together a couple of things, but it actually doesn't even matter because the first five minutes are kind of, in my opinion, like retconning you out of season one and two. It's like, oh, is that right? Are those flawed seasons even like in their opinion, do you think? I don't know.

And I don't want to like slam the show too hard. I will say that I've talked to a lot of Star Trek fans who really were disappointed with season one and two. Oh, interesting. Oh, OK. They brought in new showrunners after season one. Season two and three were shot concurrently, but they couldn't be further apart. Now, because I've gotten so into Picard, I went back and watched 35-minute-long recaps

on YouTube of both seasons. Wow. So now you are in it. I am in it. I will tell you that everything I learned in those recaps has nothing to bear on what is happening here, and it's wild. But if you like Next Generation, isn't it now like in three, in season three, isn't it now like almost all of the Next Generation cast has reemerged?

And it's done so beautifully. It happens over the course of eight episodes. So by the time you get to episode eight, the crew is back together again. That's cool. OK. And in that journey, and this is not a spoiler because the season finale is going to come up, they're actually even, it's doing so well that they're bringing it to IMAX theaters for one night.

But the episodes are long, the episodes are big, and they're awesome. But what's so great about taking eight episodes to get everybody together is everyone gets a chance to do something and something very cool and something very like everyone. It's not just like, oh, we're all back together. We all just merged. It's like every person fits a piece of a puzzle. And by the time they get to eight, it's like, and now we go into our movie. We have a two hour movie to finish the season.

And it's like, wow. OK. Ooh, now I'm excited. I am loving it. I am loving it. And yeah, it's like it's giving me a love for Star Trek. And I know that we both are on Star Trek shows. And I know we've both talked about Star Trek in the past.

But this is like, I can't, I don't want to oversell it. But it's like, if you like, if you think like, oh, I wish they gave me a great next generation movie besides First Contact. They only really got one. Like this is giving you everything. And those actors are great. I got to say William Frakes or the guy who plays Riker. Oh, yeah.

Sure. He's awesome. Like he's so good. Jonathan Frakes, not William Frakes. Jonathan Frakes. Yeah. Jonathan Frakes is great. And like he is, I mean, everybody, Michael Dorn, MVP, I mean, I'll cross the board.

Oh, I love this. They all still have it. Like they all have it. I think what's really great in terms of, because I know we, you know, we are guilty a lot on this podcast of talking about Star Wars. Yes. And we are both on Star Trek shows. You are on Lower Decks and I'm on Star Trek Prodigy, which again, I will urge everyone

to please watch. It's on Paramount Plus. It's so good. It's so fantastic. And we need all of you watching it ASAP. Watch the whole season. Just let it run. Anyway, get that.

Right up. Yeah. That's what we need. We need people finishing the series. If you don't mind. So, um, I love what I think they're doing so well that I think Star Wars is doing very poorly is all of those shows are executing at such a high level, but are such different shows.

Yes. There's no overlap in tone or in like their incredible versions of what they are. Your Lower Decks is a comedy, like a, like a hard jokes comedy. Yeah. You know, um, Prodigy, the one I'm on is like a young, young adult adventure show. You know, it's like a one hour episodes, like crazy adventure show. Um, and, and it's, and it has things that harken to the series. Like Lower Decks is a perfect example of a show that if you love next generation and

Star Trek, you're going to get all these like funny strikes, but it's not crucial for you to know them. You can enjoy it as a pure comedy show as I think Prodigy exists as a pure adventure show. The way that I loved rebels when I watched Star Wars, like you did, like, yes, it's great if you know these other things, but it's not crucial. Yeah. That's the thing is like the barrier to entry with Star Trek used to be like, oh, there's

so much of it. And I don't know the mythology or I don't know the history. And I feel like now these shows, you're, and even with what you're saying about Picard, you can just jump on. You can jump on and start these shows and they, if you know Star Trek history, it will be maybe a bit of a richer experience. But if you don't know it, this is your exposure to stories and characters that are just as accessible to you on first watch now.

You don't need to go back and do anything. You can just engage. And I think, and it's great you said engage, which is the catchphrase of Picard. But yeah, I think it's really, I was saying in June, because I was watching us on an airplane, one of the episodes, and there's a moment where I was like, oh, I was like, I literally was like excited and she was like, what are you so excited about? I'm like, I just, they just did something that was so fulfilling to me that like it got me.

Well, that's like when I will say this, now I'm going to jump to the other, but I will say that was me watching the Ahsoka trailer when they have the back of Thrawn's head. I like lost my entire mind. Oh my gosh. All right. So Star Wars Celebration happened in London. A lot of news comes out. I was online because I was on Eastern Timezone and I got to even watch a bootleg of Leslie

Headland who had been on our show. Yeah, of course. Her new show. Friend of the pod. Hello Leslie, if you're listening. So that's her show, Acolyte, which looks awesome. I could not be more excited about this show. It looks great and it's like a based in like a Kirikurisawa films, like there's a lot

of and it takes place in the high Republic era of the star of the Star Wars canon now that is many, many, many thousands of years before the events of Star Wars that we know the Skywalker saga and so forth. So yeah. All new characters, all new part of the timeline, new stories in Star Wars, which I love. I love it. And then you got all these other announcements, which I was excited about Rey is returning 15 years later, which will be interesting.

And I'm very curious about that because I'll say that as a Star Wars fan, I'm a little bit worried that I believe it was Justin Britt and Dame Lindelof created this idea and then were replaced. Yes. And so, you know. It's down with a number of, I mean, they had a room going. They had like a whole, they were writing this, they've been developing this idea for years, I believe.

Yes. And so that Steven Knight is going to take it over who created Peaky Blinders and my beloved SAS rogue heroes. Well you see, so this, that event, meaning to write down as a matter of fact, the, so look, not a bad replacement, but also I'm always worried about like who can tell these, you know, what are the personal stories, and I think that like there is a sense of, what are you talking about, Star Wars, where it sort of gets a little bit muddled, like where are the voices as it falls into a thing?

This is another in a long list of creators who have spent years working and developing Star Wars ideas that then get, they then get removed from. Yeah. And, you know, that's, that's now sadly with Lord Miller or Josh Trank or, you know, I did a little Miss Sunshine who created the whole trilogy, right? Like he created the original. Is that right? I don't know that I knew this.

Oh yeah. So the, I'm just forgetting his name right now, but the guy who wrote Little Miss Sunshine, oh, he created the new trilogy and then was fired off that trilogy. And then that's when JJ Abrams came in. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So he, like he had, and that's, they went and kind of built it.

But now I also am excited that Dave Filoni is going to get a chance to tie together all the series. Yeah. I think that could be really exciting. That's, that's the part that I'm, that's the one that I'm, I'm pretty excited about. Just like Filoni getting to like flex all of the muscles that are at play in, in Bad Batch, which I cannot recommend enough. I'm, I'm having, I'm having a little bit of a, this season of Mandalorian is a little

uneven for me. I agree. Some great stuff, but a lot of stuff that feels a little bit like not as satisfying. But this season of the Bad Batch was, season two that just wrapped up was, I thought, fantastic. Bad Batch is a, I mean, look, this, this is the interesting thing that Star Wars has, which is it's animated shows, I think pound for pound, I would say are better than their live action shows. I just think that they, they, I think that they have a better track record.

I loved Rebels. I love Bad Batch. Bone Wars, obviously. Bone Wars is fantastic. Uh, I loved, and they're doing, there's, in a couple of weeks, there's going to be season two of Star Wars visions, which is the non-canonical, you know, um, outsourced animation. They go to different animation houses all over and have, and, and commission them to do shorts for them that are not inside of the canon.

And the first season was, I thought, incredible. I, I really liked it. Um, I, there's so much fun stuff going on. The thing that I'm very excited about that is, the thing that, to me, cause I'm like, okay, the Filoni one, I'm like, great. Give me the culmination of the Thrawn, Ahsoka, Ezra, the Rebels, cause we're, we've already in this season of Mandalorian, we've seen, um, Zeb, we've seen Chopper and Hera and, and Sabine in the Ahsoka trailer.

We know that the crew of the ghost is going to be back in, um, in Star Wars stories in live action and I, I genuinely could not be more excited. Oh, I mean, it's, it, to me, this is what I've been waiting for. I mean, it's that, by the way, But the James Mangold Star Wars, um, biblical epic that's the other movie they announced. That's the one that I was like, yeah, well, I don't know what this is, but please give me, give me this, you know, the same way that I felt like giving Tony Gilroy free reign to do whatever he wanted with Andor.

I was like, yeah, this is, I guess takes place 20, it's the beginning of, uh, the Jedi beginning of people understanding the force. Um, it, that's what it's gonna, it's like a story about like, it's, he compared it to like the 10 commandments, uh, you know, or Ben Hur, it's an epic. I, I'm excited about that. I will say that, you know, we talked about Indiana Jones. I'm very excited for the, uh, the dial of destiny, the new trailer looks great. Uh, I'm in and, and I feel like,

Well, they must be happy with what he did on that if they're signing him up to do this. So that only, I think that only solidifies a little bit. It makes me hopeful that Indy is going to be great because they're trusting him to do the next big Star Wars because I'll be honest, kingdom of the crystal skull was absolute dog shit. No, I know it's such a, it's such a bummer. And I think it's a hard thing to mix up and I, and I feel like watching it, I know nothing about this movie.

Uh, not a thing. Same. Um, but I will say that I think what I'm realizing, at least from that trailer is Indy is dealing with grief and whether that grief is like the death of mutt, which would be great, uh, or not great. I mean, uh, you know, but, uh, or, or maybe it's Karen Allen. You are. So you're on the pod just saying hashtag kill mutt.

Uh, I mean, that's it. I mean, look, Paul, that's a savage take. We gotta get, we gotta get rid of this crystal skull stank on us. You know, there is something about putting Indiana Jones from a character perspective in a different place. Yeah. Like I think they tried to do that a little bit with crystal skull, like, oh, he's a man out of time.

Like, yeah, but it didn't really like flesh out. And I think emotionally it's like, it seems like he is the world has passed him by. He's a little bit older now. He's grieving pretend. Like again, I'm putting this all on this. I don't know, but there's something about the tenor of that trailer. It's like, this is the one last adventure. This is the moment of him like clicking back, I think that would be great.

I think that would be great if there was a sense of finality to this story. Yes. Um, I think that would make the movie better for it. The way that even though we're now seeing it be undone, the way that I felt Mangold did with Logan. Yes. I think Mangold came in and gave Logan like a real definitive send off, which I thought was true.

I love that move, which I believe, by the way, from what I understand. And again, I don't know anything on the inside scoop. Logan stays locked and interesting and Wolverine is a different Wolverine. Yes. Played by Hugh Jackman. I think it's going to be playing in the meta. Yeah. The multiverse.

Yeah. That Wolverine belongs, that Wolverine belongs to that universe's Deadpool. And that to me makes me happy because it also opens up the scope of whatever baggage Hugh Jackman, Hugh Jackman does carry a lot of baggage as over and I think this could open him up to be a little bit of a different Wolverine, which I think is kind of fun, which would be great. Yeah. I would love that.

I've got a couple things to recommend to you that one of which I think if you haven't watched it already, I think you are going to love. Okay. I cannot wait. Have you watched the Hulu documentary about Anthony Pellecano called Sin Eater? Oh, wait a second. I think I know. You know what?

I've heard about this because I think June has been wanting to watch this. Yes. It's next level. Okay. It's okay. But here's the, okay. I got to tell you this though, only because it's annoying. It's under the title, The New York Times Presents.

Okay. Because I just typed in Sin Eater. So they have an overall documentary series called The New York Times Presents at Hulu. And each, I don't know how often, each season they just plug in different documentaries. This is the one I believe that did the Britney Spears doc. Maybe. Because they did, The New York Times did a Britney Spears, yeah, they did a really beautiful thing about like her, how she was put under the court orders and stuff like that.

Oh, okay. Got it. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So yeah, it might be the same exact thing. I also watched, they have a great new one up that's about Jay Dilla. Oh, wow.

The producer and, you know, prolific beat maker. They have an incredible one that they just put out about Jay Dilla. But there's a two-part episode that's about Anthony Pellecano who was the Hollywood fixer of the, the wiretapper Hollywood fixer for the, you know, Don Simpson generation. And it's all like inside Hollywood kind of corrupt nonsense craziness. And all of the kind of hubbub around him. And then of course, around him getting sent to prison for many years and how that happened and why and all the kind of intricacies of all of his relationships with people.

For people who might not know this, Anthony Pellecano is who Ray Donovan is based on. The character Ray Donovan, the show Ray Donovan is, is loosely inspired by, yeah, the guy who wrote, the guy who created Ray Donovan was first hired, like succession, was first hired to write a movie about Anthony Pellecano. Oh, wow. And when that went away, I think he reused that material as, and turned in, made it fictitious. I love this. You see, I know a little bit about this.

I read that Don Simpson book, which was, it's a great, it's very tabloid-y, but I enjoyed the hell out of it. Wait, the Don, Don Simpson's book, is the one he wrote, the one that's out of print? The one that is written about him, it's called High Concept, it's written by Charles Fleming, and that's great. That's a wild book. It's not an autobiography, it's about him. Yeah, you're right.

And it's a great book, and that all kind of figures into this whole mix. It's really interesting. But he's like, he's super connected to like Brad Gray and all these, like John McTiernan ends up going to prison because of the Pellecano case, the director John McTiernan. And then part of this, like the whole thing, and this is like a very inside Hollywood thing, but it's like, Gary Shandling sued his manager because his manager was taking, Brad Gray was taking his money from his TV show, and Anthony Pellecano, I think, was like put on Gary Shandling, I think even.

Yeah. Oh yeah. It's really good. And I mean, it's very, I will say it is very inside Hollywood, but it's very fun because he portrays himself as a very kind of gangster-esque kind of Tony Soprano kind of figure. So he's a character. So even though, yes, it's a lot of behind the scenes Hollywood stuff, it's a very fun pulpy story.

And he is just so charming and compelling, as well as everybody's stories around him. It's very interesting. Well, you know, I don't know if you've ever read this, but I just finished this book called Monster. And you know, I think we've both talked about Joan Didion on this show before, right? And so this is written by her husband, and basically they wrote a bunch of screenplays together. John Dunn, right?

Yeah. John Dunn. And this is about the 10-year process of them writing Robert Redford, Michelle Pfeiffer movie called Up Close and Personal. I know the movie, but oh, wow, so is the monster in the title Redford? No, oddly not. Like I think the monster is the script, you know, and it talks about all, but Anthony Palacano is referenced there, too, because it's also in the mix of they work with Don

Simpson for a little bit. Don Simpson dies in a pivotal part of this book, but it is probably the most insightful book I've ever read about Hollywood screenwriting, because it's eight years from when they got the assignment to when the movie got made. They tried to leave it multiple times. They like, you know, down for like in the edit, you know, talking to Robert Redford, talking to Michelle Pfeiffer, like, and then also the other movies that they're trying to make during the time.

And it's a movie that like is, doesn't exist in the parlance of the Blank Check podcast. Like it is, that's a movie that really does not exist. It has those two huge stars written by like titanic writers of their time. And it is a, it has no cultural relevance. Well, it's so interesting because it was originally based on the life of Jessica Savage, who is just this interesting reporter who died of like a cocaine overdose. She was pretty like contrary, like she kind of rose up and she had a very like kind of messed up life and right out of the gate, Disney's like, Hey, we don't want you to do

any of the drugs or sex stuff with her. So then they're like, well, we're making a movie about Jessica Savage, but we can't do that. So then it becomes like this other thing and everyone's like, it's, I think you would love it. It's a great band. That sounds great. I love that.

I've been recommending that a lot. Okay. So I got my New York Times presents. Anything else that you. Yeah. I've got a couple of things that are actually really great. One of my, I've brought it up a number of times, but one of my favorite comedies of the last bunch of years is Jamie Dimitriou's show, Staff Let's Flats.

Oh, yes. He has on Netflix a special out that just came out that it's just a sketch special. It's just a series of sketches as a special. It's called a whole lifetime. Okay. I saw that. Yeah. Okay.

It's fucking fantastic. Oh my gosh. I will say like all sketch shows or like all sketch based comedy. It's like some sketches hit for me. Some didn't as much, but pound for pound, great. It's overwhelmingly fantastic. Oh, I'm so excited. He was so good on the after party, the Lord Miller show.

He's great in Fleabag. He's great. His sister is Natalie Dimitriou from what we do in the shadows and who's also in Staff Let's Flats. They're both just, I think, so supremely talented. It's fucking nuts. Oh, I love it. Dude, by the way, have you been watching Kunk on Earth?

I watched a couple of Kunk on Earth. It's very funny. I thought it was very funny too. Yeah. I like that. I like that. And I also just watched all of the new season of party down with friend of the show, Adam Scott.

Adam Scott, by the way, Ken and everybody. Great. We got to say, and Jennifer Garner, who is a great addition. She's so funny. I just did a movie with her and she is the coolest and nicest and but also just incredibly funny. I just got it. Like, she figured it out.

Oh, yeah. I thought she was great in that season. I really enjoyed her. I will say this. For those of you wondering about the upcoming Fast and Furious, we're going to be going back and we're going to go forward. Unfortunately, Adam is not available in Los Angeles and we want to do the shows live, so we may have a special guest in here to sit in Adam's chair for some of these Fast

and Furious conversations. We will get his take. We'll get his takes. Yes, but I want to make sure. Just to let people know so they're not caught flat footed. We were even talking about, you know, I think he's in such an intense schedule that he can't even guarantee that he'll be able to see the film in time because he's working on a big show.

It's a big thing. Get ready. I've got a couple of other things to throw out here, but do you have anything else you want to toss out? I was going to toss out, oh my gosh, I just wanted to say that trailer-wise, I'm excited that Barbie trailer looked great. I thought it was terrific. I thought it was great.

I also thought that the trailer for the new Spider-Man movie looks... I haven't watched that yet. Fantastic. I'm not going to watch any footage from that movie, I think, if I don't have to, just because I think it's so stylistic. I'm so curious about all the stylistic elements of it. Yes. That's what I'm kind of wanting to just be like going as cold as I can.

I think that they do a good job of not telling you much plot in this Spider-Man movie, but I also feel like I think that that's a good way to be. I think it's a good way to be. I will recommend, just because we're talking animation, Neil Campbell and Andy Sandberg's show Dig Man, also related to the Indiana Jones of it all that we were talking about earlier, a hilarious comedy central animated show where Andy plays a character who is not unlike a Nicholas Cage national treasure, Indiana Jones archeologist type hero who's down on his luck.

It's very funny and absolutely crazo and gonzo fun in that kind of a world of competitive archeologists all trying to one up each other. Very funny and Andy is great and our friend Neil Campbell, he created it and it's fantastic. I really like that and I love that kind of version, that character that Andy does. It's really, really funny and when it made me this past weekend, I rewatched national treasure. Oh, wow. I've never seen it in the afternoon.

Oh, I watched one and two also because blank check just did them as well. Okay, great. So, I can now I'm going to listen to those episodes and I was like, this is they're just fun. They're just dumb fun. It's absurd. I have to watch and I will say this to in to Nick Cage goes like really off the rails Cage.

It's at times. I cannot wait. I'm excited for that Renfield movie to where he's playing Dracula. I'm all on board for that. I want to recommend something just because I know we're recommending a lot of like big IP Star Trek, Star Wars, Marvel, all this stuff. We talk about a lot of that stuff. I do want to recommend a very small movie that I watched that I thought was absolutely

fantastic and I really want please everybody watch Rai Lane, R-Y-E Lane. It's a British rom-com and it is absolutely fantastic. It is like it is the kind of rom-com like I feel like we've talked about a bunch of the more recent rom-coms, you know, the shotgun weddings, the you know, the Reese Witherspoon one. There's been a bunch of them lately, but this is one that I feel like comes the closest to like the kind of rom-coms that we loved the day ones because it's it's actually young people having like a real chemistry field.

It feels a little bit like before sunset, before sunrise. Oh, I love this. All right. You know, in that kind of way. This is great. All right. It's on Hulu. It's so good.

It's visually, I think, fantastic. The performances are amazing and it's just a sweet, cute rom-com that's that's that's also bitingly funny, you know, in a way that I feel like none of those other movies are good at at representing that kind of the comedy of the yeah, of course, I feel like lately we're getting like roms, you know, and not yeah, we're not getting that. That's like this. It's what happened in independent film. You're getting all these mobile core movies that are neither dramas nor comedies and it's

like, yeah, come on, guys, let's let's give me give me something. Yeah, come on. Come on. Duplosses. Duploss. I'll also recommend Sharper, the con man movie, Julianne Moore, Sebastian, Stan, John, yeah, I think it's on Apple, if fantastic, great, you know, mammot-esque, you know, just con man story, no, con person story, you know, it's like multiple cons, concurrent cons.

It's great. All right. I am excited about this. This is all great. And are you listening to the town? The podcast? No. The Matt Bellany podcast.

The town. So Matt, so I subscribe to. To puck. To puck. It's a, it's kind of a bespoke news source, you know, where it's like you can follow anything in politics or you can follow stuff with Hollywood, you can follow. It's a very interesting, I've actually read some fascinating articles on there and they've been.

Oh, it's great. You know, you get people, it's very inside baseball, whatever, but so I often read a lot of the recap. Got it. Of the town, but I do. Yeah, okay. Yes, I do like that. I really like it.

It's just, again, it's about, it's about Hollywood, it's about the business of Hollywood, how it's changing, how it's collapsing, how it's imploding, stuff that sometimes we talk about or reference on the pod. So people might be interested in it, but it's terrific. And I will also say. Did he recommend, did he talk about that, the streaming wars book? I was going to, I was going to. So he recommended this book and I saved it in my, it's a free book and it's called the

streaming wars and it's just basically it's an interesting, like take, not take down, but a. Yeah. Expose about like how these streamers came to be and everything like that. It's a really. I mean, we're what we're really inside of a moment right now where things are so malleable and changing and shifting places that, you know, used to exist don't anymore places that used to host shows aren't anymore.

There was that the Kim master's article in the Hollywood reporter last week about Amazon was absolutely fascinating. Fascinating. Again, this is not, if you're interested in this kind of stuff, you know, again, we talk about it a lot on the podcast, but you know, a lot of this stuff, very deep dive, interesting stuff on how, you know, this business is really kind of changing and, and like I said, imploding and, and building something new. It's interesting.

The book that I'm talking about is called the streaming book. It's written by Matthew Ball. It's completely free. I just type in the streaming book and it will pop right up and it's just full of like charts and graphs and it's kind of interesting to see just where we're at. It's interesting to see. It's, it's, and I also will recommend because I know that you and I, well, no, I don't know if you're such a big fan of best show with a Tom Sharpe.

I mean, I know you. Oh yeah. Yeah. But yeah, Sharpe. You know, if you're a fan of that show, Jason Gore has a show called 108.9 The Hawk and it is a morning, a morning show that he does. And I got to go on it this week and it's really funny. I'm a guy who sells hot sauce and hot, so you're on as a character.

I'm on as a character. So I, I'm, I'm Tripp and I sell hot sauce and hot tubs and, and it's just, it's played no music, stings, everything. It's like a morning show, like a drive time radio show, like a drive time Southern radio show. Well, that's interesting. And it's really, really funny and Jason Gore, I'm a fan of him and it's a, it's a really, it's a fun show.

So it does 108.9 The Hawk and it's Jason Gore and Jeff Garlock. Those are the two guys that do it. Amazing. I'll shout out. I've mentioned before we've talked about Andy Daley's Bonanza, Bananas for Bananza. He's now moved over. He was on the CBB World Patreon feed. He's now on his own podcast feed on Patreon called Andy Daley podcast project, where

he does bananas for Bonanza as well as all the other ancillary Andy Daley shows that are fantastic. So, so good. Absolutely worth if you're looking to subscribe to something that's just home runs all the time. Andy Daley CBB World as well. Also fantastic. Always, always good stuff.

With the Bob Duke podcast and hey, Randy and all that. And that college show that Seth does, the college college town. This book changed my life. The Lily Sullivan show is fantastic. So good. I just want to mention that one of the animated shows that I'm a voice on called House Broken is currently moved to primetime Sunday nights on Fox. So if you want to check out a cast that is myself and Sharon Horrigan and Clea Duvall

and Nat Fax and Sam Richardson, Tim Simons. It's home runs. It's a murderer's row cast. Very funny show about like a bunch of pets who are left home during the day and like all the shenanigans they get. Now, can I tell you something about this show? Yeah. I think it's a very funny show.

Yeah. People tell me all the time, like, oh my gosh, you're so funny on House Broken. And I think that they just think I'm Tim Simons. Because oh, and I have a thing of voices sound similar. I don't know. I don't think that they do, but I like people like, oh, they always are talking about you on House Broken. I'm like, I'm not on it.

And I always have this guilt because they asked me to do a table read and I couldn't make the table read. And then I then the show was cast and God bless and you know, I'm not on it. But it has come up so many times that I don't know who people are confusing me for. But there we go. But I know and I've watched a show and I love the show. It's a fantastic show. Fantastic show.

So please Sunday nights, watch House Broken. We're getting a primetime run and we need people to watch it. Please. I love it. All right. Well, great Jason. We got a lot out in this one. We got a lot out.

I think you're going to like some of this stuff. I'm ready. All right. Absolutely. Thank you, Jason. Thank you, John Estanich for that amazing theme. And again, send us all of your themes at howdidsgetmadeatearwolf.com. Now that we got the specialist out of the way, let's talk about next week's movie.

We are going from blokes with bombs to jokes that bomb. That's right. We are watching the 2003 romcom view from the top starring Gwyneth Paltrow, Christina Applegate, Mark Ruffalo, Candice Bergen and Mike Myers. Here's a short breakdown of the plot. A small town woman tries to achieve her goal of becoming a flight attendant. There it is. Ron Tomatoes gives this film a 14% score on Tomato Meter and Jan Stewart from Newsday

says, you might need to recycle your popcorn cup as the flight sickness bag as view from the top swoops and nosedives between Myers mugging and Bergen's high comedy professionalism. Let's take a listen to the trailer. And royalty airlines. Welcome aboard. The stewardess is our friend leader. Did you care for some champagne? This is your mama's house.

The pilots are faster. Captain. We are captain. He'll be fine. I'll poke him with a stick. And the nuts. We call these warm nuts. Are warmer.

I felt warm and nuts enough. Hello. View from the top. I've had only a couple of your misses. But I'm feeling better about it. Ready. PG's are deep. Okay.

I've been obsessed with this film for a long time because Richard Iowate. Richard Iowate wrote a book about this movie. It's only about this movie. It is one of the funniest books I've ever read. It is 200 pages breaking down everything about this movie. If we could be one quarter as funny as that book, I will be thrilled when we do our episode. It's such a great book. I would actually recommend watching the movie.

Listen to the podcast. Read his book. You can currently stream view from the top on stars and it's a good time to stand up for stars right now because they had a free trial plus you can watch party down the new season's out. So maybe you could just like kill two birds with one stone or you could just write down Apple TV or Prime Video or YouTube or just go to Hoopla on Canopy, which are digital media services offered by your local public library.

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Use the code bonkers and a big thanks to our producers, Scott Sonny, Molly Reynolds and our movie picking producer, Aval Halley, our engineer, Alex Gonzalez and our publisher, July Diaz. We will see you next week for a view from the top. But before we go, we'd thought we'd share a bonus deleted scene from our specialist show where we go down the rabbit hole into Steven Segal's career as a blues musician. Take a listen. This was supposed to be Steven Segal's chance to star and direct in a film, but he wanted

$9 million and the studio didn't want to pay him that much. So they gave it to Stallone instead. The only way to make this movie worse would be Steven Segal. I don't know. June, I'm sorry. Can you repeat what you just said? I don't know. You don't know?

I don't know. Would you rather Steven Segal in the shower? Yeah. I think so. Whoa. I think so. Give me. I think so.

This was two... I just... I would have taken JCVD. Ooh, yeah. We got the buns. Oh, yeah, of course. I think that's who I thought we were talking about. Paul, can you pull up Steven Segal, please?

Just to remind June who she would rather be watching. All right, so this is maybe 94 Segal. Yeah, you don't want that man on the floor of the bathroom? Yeah, I'd take that back. I retract that. Let me see if I can get a naked. No, no, he's not very often... Now that he's a Russian citizen, I don't think any of that stuff is online anymore.

All right, so... Wait, he's a Russian citizen? Oh, yeah, that's a whole other thing. Oh. He's writing books, he's in Russia, he's performing like Cajun music to... Cajun music? Oh, yeah. He's a spicy white.

Mojo Priest. I'm gonna say this right now. How truly wild. We are. And so Putin made Russian citizens go see him in this giant theater. He's never sold out, so you're like... Wait, so Vladiputs is like, you all have to go see Steven Segal? They're best friends, Nicole.

They're best friends. It's very upsetting. If I have absolute power, I'm not forcing people to see Steven Segal. That is absolute power to make people see Steven Segal. You're right. I can do whatever I want. That was Emperor Palpatine's plan the whole time. Once he has unlimited power.

He's like, we gotta watch Steven Segal's Cajun music. How did this get me?