How Did This Get Made? - Last Looks: Wild Mountain Thyme
Episode Date: February 10, 2023Adam Pally joins Paul and Jason to chat about Adam's new movie Who Invited Charlie? co-starring Fast and Furious family member Jordana Brewster. Plus, before Paul announces next week's movie he shares... a special message from Sleepaway Camp star Felissa Rose, digs into Corrections and Omissions from Wild Mountain Thyme, and invites his alter ego "The Love Doctor" to answer questions on the Help Line. Places people, it's time for Last Looks! Go to www.hdtgm.com for tour dates, merch, and more.Follow Paul on Letterboxd https://letterboxd.com/paulscheer/HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: https://discord.gg/paulscheerCheck out Paul and Rob Huebel live on Twitch (https://www.twitch.tv/friendzone) every Thursday 8-10pm ESTSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael here: listen.earwolf.com/deepdiveSubscribe to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson here: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledCheck out The Jane Club over at www.janeclub.comCheck out new HDTGM merch over at https://www.teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmWhere to Find Jason, June & Paul:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on Twitter
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Jason's a honey bee, the Irish like to eff.
And can you spend Valentine's Day with an ex?
All this and more on today's Last Looks.
Hello my swans and honeybees, I'm your host, Paul.
Hello my swans and honeybees, I'm your host, Paul Shearer,
AKA Charles John.
Welcome to How to Just Get Made, Last Looks.
If you have a better way for me to get into places, everyone,
Last Looks, I'm open to it.
I feel like I need something there.
I haven't quite found it yet, but I'm open to your suggestions.
Head on over to our Discord, discord.gg slash HDTGM,
and give me some suggestions or my Discord.
You can go either way.
Anyway, today you are going to get to voice your issues on
Wild Mountain Time.
That's right.
And Jason and I are thrilled to be joined by our good friend
Adam Pally.
That's right.
How did this get made?
All Star is joining us today to chat about his new film
and really a lot of other things.
But his new movie Who Invited Charlie is really good.
So she definitely checked that out.
Plus we're going to reveal next week's movie
and I will try to solve your problems on Paul's Helpline.
But first things first, a shout out to Mark Granger
for that amazing theme song.
We love these songs.
We have a last look at the theme song.
Please send it to howdidsgetmadeatearwolf.com,
but keep them short.
15 to 20 seconds is best.
Let's get into it.
I know I talk a lot about movies,
but there are bigger things in the world.
You got problems?
Let me solve them.
Thank you Dave Tenor for that slow jam theme.
This week we're saying goodbye to Paul's Helpline
and bonjour to Paul's Loveline.
That's right.
I put a call out to all those looking for Valentine's Day love
and tips.
So let's see if I, the love doctor,
can help you hopeless romantics.
Aim Cupid's Arrow.
All right.
Carmen, what do you got?
Hi Paul.
This is Carmen.
I am in need of some Valentine's Day advice.
My husband and I have been together for eight years,
married for five.
Our first day anniversary is six days before Valentine's Day.
However, we recently adopted a two year old,
so we are officially stuck at home.
So would love your advice on some Valentine's Day
date ideas for staying at home after kids go to sleep.
Thank you so much.
All right.
Carmen.
Great question.
Let me tell you, Carmen,
this is something I do with all the time.
You know what?
A little goes a long way.
Why don't you both make a meal together?
And you can either make the entire meal together
or you can take one part and he takes the other
and then you join together at the dinner table.
Here's the thing.
Valentine's Day is about being with the person you love
and just having a nice time.
You don't need the pomp.
You don't need the circumstance.
Is that it?
All you need is time together.
So open a bottle of wine if you drink wine.
If you don't drink wine,
open up a bottle of whatever you drink and make a dinner together.
Have some laughs.
Have some good times.
If you want to add an addendum to it, you know what?
Get some of your favorite treats.
Make a little movie night.
Just make it special, but you can do that without anything else.
And if you want to throw all this away,
order in from one of your favorite spots.
I know Door Dash and Postmates got a lot.
And just get your favorite meals.
You could both get your own favorite meals.
I want to hear about how it goes.
Comment.
I hope that helps.
Next up, our man from Minneapolis, Sam.
What can I do you for?
Hey, Paul.
Sam from Minneapolis here.
Long time listener.
Now you were looking to give some Valentine's Day advice
because I feel like I've got a doozy for you here.
Me and my fiance, we've been together for about four years now.
We broke up this last weekend.
We currently live together.
And it's looking like we're going to be living together
for the next two weeks while we kind of figure out
where to go from here.
So I'm kind of wondering if you've known anyone in a similar boat
or, you know, have any advice for how to live together civilly
in not a big apartment.
And then also what do I say anything about Valentine's Day
on that day?
Or do I just, you know, keep my mouth shut, keep the jokes in?
All of that.
Love the show.
Thanks, man.
Have a good one.
Bye.
Ooh, that's got to hurt.
Now, I don't know many specifics of this relationship,
but I'll tell you this much, Sam.
Here's a deal.
Call it out.
Be in front of it.
If you are on good terms and it seems like you have to be.
Or if you don't have to be, you got to be for two weeks.
Make it easy.
Make it light.
Make it fun.
Make any sort of jokes that make it feel uncomfortable.
And honestly, Sam, at this point, get the fuck out of the house.
I mean, honestly, on Valentine's Day, leave.
You don't have to see each other.
You don't have to do anything with each other.
You don't have to do anything.
Now, if you'd like to, do you want to be civil with each other?
You could just say, hey, I know it's Valentine's Day.
I know it's coming up.
I don't want it to be weird.
Maybe there's an outreach.
Again, I don't know where you're at.
Did one of you break up with the other?
They're weirdness.
There's a lot of variables.
I don't know, but I think calling it out before it happens and then getting the fuck out
of the house is probably the best thing to do.
Go see a movie and not with your ex.
All right.
Oh, and just living with your ex.
I've done that for a little bit.
It's tough.
It's tricky.
You know what?
Be respectful.
Be nice.
Be open.
Chat.
And maybe with the pressure of the relationship off, you actually get some closure that you
so desperately need because you're not trying to rekindle.
You're just trying to figure out what happened.
And that actually is something that has happened to me and it's kind of wonderful.
Anyway, next up, Cecily from Chicago.
Hi, Paul.
This is Cecily from Chicago.
I'm calling because you've heard some sort of love guru.
Well, I have been seeing someone for about six months and I think that I am in love with
him, but we haven't like said that to each other yet.
We do a lot of the, like, I adore you and, like, you mean so much to me kind of a dance
around the word.
And part of me wants to wait for him to say it because, like, I asked him to be my boyfriend.
But I'm just wondering, like, is six months too soon?
Should I just bring it up?
Should I just wait for us to, like, say it like two quirky way together?
I don't know.
I'm freaking out about it.
Okay, thank you.
And I love the show and I love you and Jason and June.
Okay, bye.
Oh, Cecily, you know what?
You're already doing it.
When you dance around with a word love, who are you fooling?
What does that mean?
Oh, like, oh, oh, if I adore you, I do this, you're doing it.
Just take the plunge.
You know what?
You could say, I just want to tell you something.
I've enjoyed being with you.
It's been so lovely to be with you and I know there's a lot of energy put around this word,
but I just want to continue having a wonderful time with you and I love you.
You could, you could, you could diffuse it because sometimes you don't know how people
take that word love.
But I got to tell you, as someone who has not initiated love in certain relationships,
it's wonderful.
It's a wonderful, it's six months.
You know what?
What else are you waiting for?
Say I love you.
He freaks out good.
Get the fuck out of there.
You don't need to be with somebody who's still on the fence at six months.
And if we're holding back, I love you.
What else are they holding back?
Go for it.
You asked him out.
Seems like this person is not going to step up to the plate and that's okay, but they
want to be stepping up.
You just sometimes have to, you got to show them the way and I bet you will be received
perfectly.
All right.
Well, that's it for the love doctor.
I hope I helped.
Let me know if I did.
And remember, you can always call Paul's helpline.
And because this weekend is a Super Bowl, Paul wanted me to ask you, am I doing a character
or I'm out of my character?
This is not me.
I don't know what I'm doing now.
Anyway, this weekend is Super Bowl, which got me thinking about sports movies.
So even if you don't need advice, feel free to give me a call.
Tell me your favorite underrated or overrated sports flick.
Blue Crush for me.
One of the best surfing movies ever.
That is a fictionalized account of surfing.
Anyway, if you got a sports movie, Hot Take, I want to hear it.
Give me a call at 619.
P-A-U-L-A-S-K at 619.
Paul, ask, and we'll see you in just a second.
But before I go, I want to let you know that if you are in Telluride, Colorado, Jason,
June, and I will be there all week and long doing shows at Telluride Comedy Festival.
We'll be there on Saturday night doing a version of how did this get made.
It's not exactly how did this get made.
So don't worry about it.
Don't freak out about it.
It's just something we do every year in Telluride.
Go check it out.
And every Thursday night on Twitch, twitch.tv, slash friend zone.
Also on YouTube, you can check out Rob Hubel and I in a little show that we call Thursdays
with Rob and Paul.
We'll be right back shortly with your questions, comments, and concerns on Wild Mountain Time.
But first, oh, you see, I tricked you one more time.
I have some bonus content for you.
That's right.
From our Morbius show, I wanted to share with you something that we shared with the audience
to celebrate what was supposed to be our 300th episode.
I reached out to a special guest.
I'm still doing the voice.
I reached out to a special guest from the movie Superway Camp to shed some light on that episode's
biggest debate in the movie's cold open.
Who was the person on the dock?
And what was the relationship to the people on the boat?
We normally save this stuff for a live audience, but I thought, you know what, let me give
you a little sneak peek of the fun stuff that we do for our live audience.
So check it out.
This is, I think, the definitive answer, although I found myself even more confused.
So here we get into Morbius.
Since this is the 300th episode of How Did This Get Made?
Now, we're just saying, we're retconning things and saying this is 300.
Well, this won't even be in the episode.
This is just special for Chicago.
Yeah, that's right, Chicago.
Guess what?
Nobody else got anything special.
You think fucking Cleveland got something special?
It was a casino.
So, but this is exactly what I've been sitting on this for a long time because I knew this
is going to be the 300th episode.
So I wanted to plan something special for both of you and me.
Oh my gosh.
Because I really don't know what this is either.
Is it a proposal?
It's not a proposal.
We are already married.
Wait, what?
Yeah.
We'll tell you about it after the show.
Cleveland was wild.
So here's the deal.
What you watched before the show started was a debate about sleepaway camp.
Like how, who, what.
So I went to the source and we are going to finally get an answer about who was on the shore.
Check it out.
What?
Hi, Paul, Jason and June.
It's me, Melissa Rose, Angela from Sleepaway Camp.
And I heard from the amazing Paul and we were discussing a few things.
First of all, I want to say happy 300 episodes.
And finally, I need to maybe help with a couple of the questions.
Okay.
So what was the relationship between the two on the beach?
Husbands in love, married madly in love.
I love love.
And also the three people in the water, friends just messing around, having a good time at camp.
Hopefully that explains a little bit of the mystery and excitement that is Sleepaway Camp.
I always say it's a comedy.
So much hilarity going on with the half shirts and the short shorts and the bodybuilding and the boys in the water.
But it's all in good fun.
And I appreciate you so much for remembering Sleepaway Camp.
I want to send you so much hug, so much love.
I meet me at the waterfront after the social.
Don't ever do that.
It's a trap.
I love you.
I love you.
Be well.
Take care.
Talk to you soon.
Bye.
Wow.
There it is.
Talk to you soon.
Wow, Paul.
That's really special.
She said, I love you.
I love you.
So she only loves two of us.
I'm going to guess.
I love you.
I love you.
Be well.
One was be well.
I'll take be well.
That was incredible.
I'm still confused.
Thank you so much, Paul.
Honestly, I'm even more confused.
I am.
Well, I mean, because wasn't the person on the shore a woman?
I thought so.
And weren't they saying, she said husband's in love.
Husband's in love.
I don't know.
I guess it wasn't.
Maybe they were saying the doctor is, oh boy.
What was that, 13 years ago?
Well, we got an answer, but even her answer felt like don't ask me any follow-ups because
it doesn't really hold water.
The people in the water were just people having fun.
Just friends having fun.
All right.
Well, that was just a little special thing I wanted to share with you all.
Thank you, Paul.
That was really, really special.
That was well.
Thank you.
Paul, thank you.
Thank you.
And to both of you, happy 300th episode.
Happy 300th episode.
Happy 300th episode.
I'm so glad to be able to just celebrate with Chicago.
Okay, so last week we talked about wild mountain time.
We had questions.
We might have even missed a few things.
We might have even misspoke and our research could have been bad.
And here is your chance to set us straight.
Fact check us, if you will.
It is time for corrections and omissions.
Thank you, AC Gravy.
All right.
Let's go to that discord.
Love the discord.
Nat Kat writes in the beginning of the movie when Christopher Walken's character is talking
about how Anthony takes after the other side of the family.
He says that his uncle thought he was a fish.
The implication seemingly being that Anthony's problem runs in the family.
This would seem to lend to the fact that Anthony actually believes himself to be a honeybee,
though this line is so buried in the dialogue that it's not an effective hint.
Does uncle tie a rock around his neck to try to become a fish?
Should Rosemary be worried that Anthony will try to fly or some other such honeybee nonsense?
That is a good point.
I think we talked about this a little bit.
The idea that his uncle was not well, mentally not well.
And that's, I guess, how you are supposed to take it when you first watch the film.
But if it truly is that that side of the family just thinks that they're animals.
That's even more wild.
Because I really heard that open as he thought he was a fish.
And then he went to go swim with the fish.
Well, I guess then you're right.
He went to go swim with the fishes and then he killed himself.
They thought he drowned because he committed suicide,
but he was really just trying to be with his own.
Wow, this movie keeps on giving.
It's a Russian nesting doll of a film.
And you know what?
That's what great plays and great films are.
Just give you ideas after ideas after ideas.
And I'm going to tell you a lot of people here like what this movie was selling.
Early Bird writes, as someone from Ireland,
I've been waiting for this heaping pile of steaming leprechaun shit to appear on this podcast for ages.
The day the trailer was released, it trended all over Irish social media.
It felt like it was all everyone was talking about.
And it even was featured on that evening's national news under the headline,
Irish accent emergency declared.
Here's a clip.
Based on his play outside Mullingar, Oscar-winning writer John Patrick Shanley directs Wild Mountain Time.
Its trailer is packed with heavy-hitting Hollywood stars,
but it's their accents that have everyone talking.
It has compelled Airline Ryanair to tweet what it called a public service announcement
that Irish people don't sound like this.
Dublin Airport chipped in observing that there's fashion police, grammar police and even airport police.
And if there was such a thing as accent police, it said somebody better call them.
While the leprechaun museum was more succinct tweeting, even we think this is a bit much.
I love it.
Okay, Early Bird's post continues.
I'd also like to point out that Ireland was the first country in the world to vote for gay marriage.
So Jamie Dornan's homophobia was surprising.
P.S., you guys referenced the terrible score. Well, it was composed by Amelia Warner, a.k.a. Jamie Dornan's wife.
P.P.S., June Paul.
And of course, we fuck.
It's the only things that keeps us warm.
Holy shit, Early Bird.
It's too early to say it, but you know what I'm thinking.
Wow.
And you supplied your own audio clip?
Everybody else has to follow here because I don't think anyone's going to top that.
But let's see.
George Glass writes, look, these Irish accents, both Dornan and Blunt worked with the dialect coach, Brendan Gunn,
listening to tapes of people from the region.
Dornan, who grew up in Belfast, wanted to sound less metropolitan, which is why he doesn't speak in his normal voice.
While some on Twitter have ridiculed the accents in the trailer,
Shanley said he had to make the accent more accessible to a global audience and that if the character sounded exactly like his relatives spoke,
no one would understand them.
So kind of seems that the dialect coach was a waste of time.
Yeah, like I've worked with a dialect coach.
They give you tapes and then you kind of duplicate the sounds and tapes.
So would that be listening to those accents and then like futzing with it on set?
I mean, it's a very bizarre, it's a bizarre Jamie Dornan, just speaking your metropolitan accent.
I think, honestly, I'm going to say, and maybe this is xenophobic and I apologize,
maybe just lose the accents entirely.
There's so much happening here that we don't need another barrier.
Okay, we don't need another hurdle for us.
That thing that Christopher Walken said about the fish, I'm fucking missing that.
I need it to be, you know what, Shere, you should have put subtitles on.
That's a note to myself that I've said out loud.
Let's go to the phones.
Rachel from Philadelphia.
Hi, this is Rachel from Philly.
I have an important B correction.
Maybe you've gotten a lot of calls about this, but male Bs are not worker Bs.
The worker Bs are female and the male Bs are drones.
And their only job is to hang around in the hive and fuck the queen.
So I just want to let you know and make sure that that was cleared up.
And if this guy was comparing himself to a honeybee, assuming that he was saying that he was like a male honeybee,
that's what he was saying.
Okay, thank you. Bye.
Bam, Rachel nailing it. Okay, so he is a honeybee.
So his job is to, in your words, fuck.
Also the same words of LeBron James when he broke the scoring record this week.
Fuck, man. Thank you guys. I love it.
All right, so he just wants to fuck.
Nick's the ending a little less magical if you ask me.
All right, here we go.
90 on the Discord writes, Why did Rosemary have to travel all the way to New York to see Swan Lake for the first time
and never thought to go to any productions in Ireland or even the UK or Europe?
She's obsessed with it, but never thought to actually go to a show.
As someone from Dublin, I found this hard to watch.
Irish people seem confused about picnics, raincoats and cars.
Having said that, the gate thing made perfect sense.
The gate should always be closed.
I did some door-to-door campaigning before and the most important thing above clear information and empathy
for the people involved was to close the gates on the way out.
90, I have nothing to say to that, but yeah, you are right.
You are 100% right.
Let's see here.
Dr. Guts, Dr. Guts 1003 writes, At one point Anthony says that bees hate smoke,
which is why he kept encouraging Rosemary to quit.
However, that's not entirely accurate.
Beekeepers actually use smoke to keep bees calm during hive inspections.
The smoke makes the bees prepare to leave their hive because they believe the hive is on fire.
They begin to eat lots of honey, think they need the energy to go out and find a new home.
Engorged with honey, their abdomens are so full it makes them hard for them to sting.
Then this makes it safer for the beekeeper to inspect the hive.
All right, so you are all picking up so much more on the bee stuff than I got in there.
So according to this, he should want her to smoke more.
It would calm him down in many respects.
But he's trying to get energy.
Well, I don't know. Maybe when she smokes, he gets...
Well, he's getting...
No, I think it would still calm him.
I just tried to make sense of it because he was trying to find a new home.
But I don't know.
Andrea writes, Jason failed to mention that he actually played a honey bee in the Apple TV Plus show, Dickinson,
which is a great show.
Check out this clip from a YouTube featurette on the show.
Bee, I was hoping you'd come.
What's up?
Get inside.
Girl, I flew through the window.
The bee is a figment of Emily's imagination.
The bee shows up every time Emily is feeling a bit lost or alone.
Bee, you're so sweet.
I'm covered in pollen, baby.
Jason, he's played a boogie. He's played a honey bee.
This guy's unstoppable. I love Jason and I love his voice, and especially in a honey bee.
And if you've not watched Dickinson, it's very, very good.
All right, so many great corrections and missions, but you know what?
Why am I even going to pretend to deliberate when I know the answer is here to stay?
And that is that this week's winner will not get anything but a great song,
a great song composed by and sung by Katie Morris.
The winner of this week, corrections and emissions, is Early Bird.
Take it away.
If you want to chime in with your own thoughts about the latest episode,
hit up the Discord at discord.jp.
Thank you, Katie Morris.
Thank you, Early Bird.
What a great crop of corrections and emissions.
If you want to chime in with your own thoughts about the latest episode,
hit up the Discord at discord.jp.
Thank you, Early Bird.
And if you want to chime in with your own thoughts about the latest episode, hit up the Discord at discord.jp.
Or call us at 619-PAUL-ASK.
Coming up after the break, Jason and I are joined by actor-comedian and our friend Adam Paley
to talk about his brand new movie, Who Invited Charlie?
Stick around.
People, did you notice that every Monday, how did this get made
is pulling out old episodes from the vault and then re-releasing them back into the rotation.
This week's Matinee Monday was one of our favorite episodes.
Deep Blue Sea with Evan Goldberg and Paul F. Tompkins.
My hat is a shark fin.
Oh, we get into it.
Is the parrot real?
Is the parrot just an LL Cool J's head?
That's one of my favorite episodes.
So check that out and make sure you're checking out my YouTube channel
where we are hosting little clips of every Matinee Monday.
I try to do that every week.
All right, let's get ready for it because today we are going back to chatting with our friends.
Jason and I were thrilled to zoom with our good friend Adam Paley.
And whenever Adam comes on, he comes on for a purpose and then we get sidetracked.
But you know, Adam was a guest on Mac and Me, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2.
But today we are chatting about his new movie, Who Invited Charlie, which is out now.
Mark Granger, play us in.
Jason and Paul are just going to chat TV and movie wrecks.
There's nothing more than that.
Sure, there's no segment could be summed up in a tweet.
But Jason's not on Twitter, so this is where they meet.
It's just chat.
It's just chat.
Adam, you are, I think, how did this get made all star?
You were at one of our first ever live shows or in the early days of us doing live shows
because we came to New York City and did Webster Hall, was that?
Irving Plaza.
Irving Plaza.
Yeah, it was Irving Plaza for Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, if I'm not mistaken, right?
Yes.
And it was so fortuitous because at the time I had my son was in the pocket of watching that movie.
So you were immersed at that point.
Yes.
So I was able to sit down with you guys and go deep without having to like, like I rewatched
it obviously.
What are your kids obsessed with now so we can bring you back?
It's gone so far left in the small amount of time.
Just Michael Moore documentaries?
Yes.
No, no, no.
So far left.
So far left.
Yeah, they're just like, they're libertarian almost at this point.
They're watching only Midas Touch TikToks.
Bill O'Reilly, a concierge service for descriptions, each of them.
Cole and Gigi, who are the older ones, are now like Wednesday is Wednesday has like taken
over their lives.
Right.
Like my daughter wants to be her and my son like is like doing that thing where he's like,
no, I just like it.
You know, like he's like, it's actually really cool.
It's actually cool.
It's really cool actually.
It's like a detective story.
You and your friends talk about it.
He's like, yeah, yeah.
What parts do you like about it?
He's like, you know, well, Wednesday's obviously like the coolest part.
Right, right.
And then my, my littlest is into the worst kind of YouTube videos on the planet.
It's just like, it's just like, I'm sure Paul, I'm sure you're, you're in that.
We're in it.
I'm watching a lot of Minecraft play through videos and things of that nature.
He has rough.
Yeah.
But I will say that my kids are also watching old movies.
So like we just started watching on repeat, uh, Will Ferrell's kicking and screaming,
the soccer movie, uh, Robert Duvall, Robert Duvall, and now my kids are like, they love
the Macarena and they're obsessed that the Macarena is like a current dance.
So it is like, no guys, the Macarena isn't current.
That's old when that movie came out.
And then last night we went to a Clippers game and they said everybody get up and dance.
I played that fucking Macarena and my kid was like, we, I told you, dad, it isn't an old
dance.
I'm like, well, you're right.
You're technically right.
It is now.
That is the night that your son lost respect for you.
My dad didn't know the Macarena was current.
Well, Paul, are you a parent that is like, are your kids embarrassed by you?
Not yet.
No, no, they're only, they're only eight and six.
They're not, they're not embarrassed yet.
Oh my God.
I'm sure at one point they will be.
That is the worst feeling.
The worst feeling on the planet to be like, it happens to us like regularly like, we'll
get in the car in the morning and we'll be driving down West Side Highway and some song
will come on that my kids like, lately it's a 21.
Can you do something for me?
Like the kids, like they love that.
They all, and it's so cute.
They all do it.
I'll be, get into it.
21.
Can you do, and if I don't know what block we're on, like if we hit 60th before I'm
ready, my daughter will be like, dad.
What?
What?
What?
Turn the music off.
You can't dance like that.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
Did anyone see us?
Oh.
No, I don't, I don't think so.
She's like, oh, thank God.
All right.
Bye.
I'm like, oh.
I'm only just sitting in your car and weep.
I'm just like, oh.
I'm running opposite way.
Slowly driving back.
Being like, 21.
Thank you so much.
I like to screw with my kids because I do carpool with my kids and our friends.
And when we pull up to school, I will have a song on Spotify ready to go like, like a
door of the explorer or like Paw Patrol and I blast that as we pull into school, like
they were listening to it.
Yeah.
So it does create this moment where they are frantically trying to distance themselves
from this car that is blasting Paw Patrol because they don't want it to be associated
with it.
So I try to get it on.
Anything is better.
It reminds me of a story I heard from Abby Elliot who won't mind me telling it, but she
recounted to me a story that I imagined formed her adulthood where her father's car was being
detailed and he picked it up and the windshield wasn't ready.
He took it anyway and he drove it to her school and he parked it in front early and he took
a bunch of like blood, fake blood.
He put it all over himself and he put his body through the windshield and he waited and
he lied there and waited until high school got out.
Oh my God.
High school.
High school especially.
High school.
16-year-old Abby comes walking out.
Oh no.
But at that point, if Chris Elliot is your dad for that long, you've got to be right.
Yes, I'm sure there's stuff going back and forth, but she said in a split second she
was like, oh my God.
And then was like, fucking fuck it, kids are like looking at her and being embarrassed
and she was just like, let's go.
Let's go dad.
And he like had to slowly like climb off the car and she was like, she got in the car
in the front seat like.
But I guess this now brings it to this moment where your kids are cognizant that you are
like an actor.
So they are able to recognize and you are in arguably one of the biggest films that
like our kids like.
I imagine your kids like Sonic.
My kids love Sonic.
We have it in the DVD in the car and I feel like, so does that give you any extra cred
or is that like, where does that fall in like because it can make there are certain things
my kids don't know anything that I do because they can't watch anything that I've done.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a help.
It's a help and a hindrance because I have like one young kid and an older kid.
So like my 10 year old is not as psyched.
Like he had a story.
I don't know if I told you this Paul, but he last year was in sleepaway camp and it
rained one day and when it rains in sleepaway camp, they show movies.
So they showed Sonic the hedgehog.
And so everyone around him was like, yes.
And he was like, oh, no, so this isn't an opportunity for him to be like, fuck yeah,
my dad's in this movie.
Well, I thought that I would be like, why, why wouldn't you be like, fucking awesome.
And then you realize that like 10 years old, the kids around him at the time, it's like
not old enough to like process how cool it is that your dad's in a movie.
It's just like your dad's part of your dad's part of the story or whatever.
And so then they saw the name on screen in the beginning, they're like, Cole is that.
And he was like, yeah, yeah.
And then first, my first scene is with Jim Carrey and Jim Carrey, like, you know, obviously
I play a little status and Jim Carrey is like, all right, officer fart face.
I'll see you later.
And he said for the rest of like, till like color war, he was fart face junior.
Oh, it's like, yeah, and like you don't think about that, you know, you're just like, right?
Yeah, your kids are caring.
And I'm like, in the movie, but then my five year old runs around like being like, my dad's
a police officer.
Like, it's like, all right, you know, so I mean, I guess the question is, will you be
letting them watch who invited Charlie, your new, your new film?
Thank you, Paul.
That was awesome.
You're so good at this.
Look at that segue.
Really good.
You guys, you guys should collectively replace Gordon.
Really good.
You don't need any more guests.
You just, if we're doing one more guest, I made this movie last year.
It's really sweet.
It's like a really like sweet family movie.
It's like a chance I got to do like a what about Bob or playing strains and automobiles.
That's great.
Really tonally sweet and fun.
And so there are a couple things that you don't want your kids to see, but when it premiered,
we took our kids, my kids and Danielle and I sat them like in the back.
And the first 15 minutes is like really fun and light and funny.
And then it gets into the movie and then like the last 15 minutes is really kind of like
feel good and laying funny.
So we like went outside and had lunch and hung out and then I brought him back in for
the 15 minutes and everyone clapped and was like crying.
Oh, that's great.
Kind of be like, oh, okay, I guess I guess I see what this is now, you know, so like
I think that they eventually will see it.
But it was like the first time they got to see me like in a movie.
Like that's kind of exciting.
In a theater.
In a theater.
To go to the movies to see.
Well, they never had to go for COVID because COVID by the time Santa came out over COVID.
So everything was kind of virtual and weird.
Oh, that's exciting.
It was the first time they were like, whoa, and like it was, it was rad.
I never had that experience when I lived in California, like the kids were too young.
And I don't know.
I just never had the experience of being like, this is my job.
It didn't even feel like a job.
It felt like, you know, it was a weird job to try and explain to kids.
Yeah.
What a strange job.
Oh, the people that you see on this stuff is they're not those people.
Those are characters that are played by I'm one.
You know, like that.
By the way, and in the movie, you described it as like a, what about Bob?
And I think it's what I like about it is I think a lot of those movies, like when you
watch planes, transomabiles or what about Bob, you're like, just leave or get them out
of there, call the police, do something.
But I think the idea that this movie is about a family escaping New York City during COVID.
Yeah.
And they're trying to like hide, not hide out in Hamptons, but just kind of be like,
we were going to wait out this, this virus, which we all kind of did people went in different
directions.
You know, you play his college roommate, Reed Scott, you play his college roommate,
you show up.
So you can't really escape.
And I think that that puts a different pressure on this movie than like the other, like just
the comedies that we've seen in the past where it's like, oh, you have to stay invested
because of just the premise.
The COVID of it all, you know, obviously, I think there's always this worry, even as
we're making it as it was written and producing it, it's like, no one wants to see a COVID
movie.
No one wants to see a COVID movie.
And I'm like, at this point, what movie is not a COVID movie?
Like we're so far down the line of history at this point that it's like, are we just
going to in moviemaking do this big thing where it's like, well, if there's a movie
between 2000 and 2023, we're just going to pretend that it wasn't that time.
You know, like,
Yeah.
Are we going to, does fiction live in a world that did not go through the, the pandemic?
The pandemic.
You know, like, yeah.
So that, that alternate reality to me is like, we're so far past that that, and I think
critics, you know, I was reading a lot of stuff of like, oh, I don't want to see pandemic
art, you know, and stuff like that.
And it's, it's a little bit, I'm a little bit like too bad, you know, like that's the
work.
The world has done this.
So art is going to reflect it.
And I think Nick Scott, who's the writer who writes on a show called Adder Banks, which
my kids love.
I've never seen it.
Oh, it's an Australian show, right?
Yeah.
It's on Netflix and it's supposed to be like amazing YA.
But I think what he was trying to do was, was, was go right against that and be like,
you know, for, for the last 10 years, every sitcom started with a economic crisis and
the main characters to move back in with his parents.
Like, that, why can't that be covered?
We have a history of just making things that focus on World War II.
We go back like, we are always going back to different things.
It's like, whatever.
Every movie and TV show of the 80s, Lethal Weapon, Magnum PI, Riptide.
These are all stories about Vietnam vets returning from the war.
The 18 are all vets.
The Lethal Weapon guys are, they're all grappling with the events of the Vietnam War.
That's 80s TV right there.
And I would argue that like the idea of telling any, and not to make it too lofty, but like
any artist, like, don't be in any way affected by something that you've lived through and
gone through.
Yeah.
Just skip over that.
Like, just create something brand new.
It's like, well, no, this is.
I mean, I feel like.
People don't want to be bummed.
Yeah.
You know what?
I thought did it well was the Knives Out sequel, Glass on Ice.
Yes.
They did it great.
They did it great.
I thought they did it great because they were like, nope, this is just the norm now.
Yeah.
And like everything from some people are wearing N95 masks.
Some people are in cloth masks all the way to Kate Hudson, who's wearing like just a
piece of mesh.
Well, the way they told that story too, could it's just like that's another joke there.
There's more to, you know, and like, I think it helps you inform those characters completely.
And so I think we were trying to do that.
And it is also a small, it's one of those movies, like it's not a long time period.
And it's, it's very acute.
And in that year, it's almost, you're watching it with a warm feeling of nostalgia for those
first weeks of lockdown, because it approaches it in the light way, as opposed to like, I
think when it first started, everyone was like, no one wants to joke about this, no
one wants to joke about like spraying packages and whatnot, it's too, it's like, ugh.
And we don't really do those jokes, but, but being now removed from it, even seeing the
image or like, I do remember when I was doing that, you know, and like, one of my favorite
jokes in the movie is, um, uh, uh, Zosha Rockmore is like, um, I'm trying to pick her up in
a deli with masks on and the clerk is like, um, uh, six feet apart and I'm like, and I'm
flirting with her and I'm like, we got to really take this seriously, Tom Hanks has
it now.
And like, that to me is just like, it's, oh, I remember when Tom Hanks, when Tom Hanks
got cold and it was a big guy, it was at the arc light with Yasser Lester, your former
co-star.
Uh, we were about to host a Black Monday premiere screening in a crowded movie theater, uh,
and that was a real, a real moment.
Um, by the way, you do star in this movie with Jordana Brewster, who is obviously, uh,
how did this get made royalty, I mean, fast and furious, do you get, do you get any dirt,
any fast and furious?
I do get some dirt.
Uh, I don't know how much of it I'm at Liberty State because they hold that franchise, you
know, if you're in that, if you're, if you're in the family, you're in the family, you know,
it's family.
Yeah.
It's family.
They're not super liberal with the details, but like, I would always keep an ear out for
like scheduling conflows, you know, or like, like there would be a couple of days
when we'd be like, well, we got to shoot Jordana out cause she's leaving for Romania and be
like, oh, interesting.
By the way, I gotta say, I didn't know much about her, but I got a bigger amount of respect
for her comedy in the sense that when I saw her in Chad and JT go deep, like she's really
funny in that.
And I was like, oh, she like gets it and she like, she's incredibly fun and just has a
real like, cause I've only really had my experience with her in those Fast and Furious films,
which are very serious.
So I never, I never knew her, but her sister Isabella was my first agent.
So like, I've known the Brewster family for a long time and Jordana was always, was like
doing Fast and Furious right away and was like an action, wanted to be an action star
is like, that's what she was doing.
So I never really met her and knew her.
And then when I, and then like the first day we were all in a church, you know, like shooting
small movies in New York is like, shooting small movies anywhere is tough, but shooting
them in California, there's a certain like the sunshine cures a lot of what ails you.
You know, like, right, it's a lot easier to like be, have no trailer in California when
you're like, you know, and I'll just go sit over there and it's nice out, you know, there's
a bench over there.
I'll sit in the sun and read.
It's a lot easier in New York when you're, when you're making like an independent film,
it's like negative 20 years.
Most times you're in like a church basement, you know, or like, like the, the, the conference
room of a, of a no powered office, like left open office or something.
And so the first day we were in this church, it was freezing and we're running behind and
she was so chill and like joking around and I had never met her.
I didn't know what to expect.
And she made this joke about like, yeah, uh, I, I wouldn't be here if this wasn't a good
script.
And she said it so like flatly in like a joking way that I was like, well, yeah, yeah, that's
none of us would be any like, yeah.
And I, and from then on, I was like, oh, you're, you're like, so, you know, exactly.
You have the perspective of the whole industry.
You've been doing it forever.
Like most people who are, who have been in it since their kids are, I would say easier
to work with.
Yeah.
I think you're right about that.
So now where can people watch it?
It's in New York, LA and Miami, uh, on February 3rd at, um, you know, the local, uh, Angelica's
and, um, uh, I don't know what the, where in LA.
Your alternative art house movie theater, your land, your landmark theaters, your, you
know, exactly.
But I do think that this movie also, if you don't want to get to a theater and, and you
don't have to, you don't have to streaming streaming on demand.
Um, I'm sure it'll be a streaming service somewhere, but I think right now it's on your
cable boxes in your city right now, either on your TV or in a theater.
Go see it.
It's the number one movie in the country.
That's it.
That's the Avatar.
Congratulations.
Yes.
It's the number one movie coming out on February 3rd in New York, LA or Miami and streaming
at the same time.
It's the number one movie doing all of that.
Wow.
This is exciting.
Aren't you so glad that you told James Cameron you wouldn't be in Avatar?
A hundred percent.
Uh, you know, I, I grew up a little bit in like Jersey and so he, he wouldn't want me
in it cause I, I would call it way of the water.
Um, wait, Pally, while you're here and I know we're promoting your movie, but I'm
like, I do want to, I do want to shout out to all of our listeners.
I've said it before we, Paul and I have talked about it, but you're in Gabriel's show 101
places before you die is absolutely one of my top shows of last year.
Absolutely.
Fantastic.
Now available on HBO Max to stream if I'm not mistaken, has it been scrubbed from the
server?
No, no, we, we survived attacks.
We're not attacked.
We were, we were so inexpensive.
They couldn't even make a tax break of us.
They were like, we just throw it out there, but we're, it's on HBO and it's on, um, most,
most planes right now, which is really a trip.
Which is great.
That's the best way.
I see so many people, uh, watching movies, uh, that my friends are in, then I'm in over
the shoulders of people on planes, uh, watching them on planes, planes are, I find the best
place to watch a film.
I also, a great place to watch a travel show while you're traveling.
And so I say, I, I, I gave her some, I said, I guess, I guess we're working dot, dot, dot
on planes.
Amazing.
It works.
By the way, great.
It's such a funny, it's such a funny show.
And that, but in that vein of like the Bourdain or, or, or action Bronson or, uh, Stanley
Tucci, all these kinds of travel log food based travel log shows, but there's something
you guys, your dynamic together is so fucking funny and so charming and so wonderful.
It's wonderful to like dip into your friendship that is so demonstrably on display that that
is also what is delightful to watch just to be able to hang out with you guys.
It's not like, oh my God, that burger looks so good or oh my God, that blank looks so
good.
It really is.
It's a hang.
Yeah.
And that's what I think is great.
Well, I, I really appreciate it.
And, and I heard, I, I, I texted you guys, I heard you guys talking about the podcast
before and it was so sweet.
And, um, uh, gabris isn't here, but I, I, the sweetest part was when you talked about
gabris and, and his performance because he is truly like, uh, the hardest part of that
show is just, is being yourself at all is not being like affected by what's happening.
So you know what I mean?
Like you're running late.
The show is going like this, the, the joke's not hitting.
It's like the hardest part is just being like authentic and gabris's performance is like
just one of the best comedic performances in a TV show.
Like I, I know it's not scripted.
I know it's, it's not scripted.
Like he's acting and he's great and it's so compelling to watch gabris just firing on
all cylinders.
It's great.
Yeah.
And I, and, and before we argue that you guys couldn't get there without the relationship
that you both have, because it does have that sense of trust, that sense of play that
I feel like you always want from these shows, but if you can't find people that really do
trust each other like that, I think that's like bravo bravo essentially works because
even on some level, even with the fighting, these people will let their guards down and
be who they are with each other.
And that like, that's the secret sauce.
Like you really want to see it.
You don't see that on the bachelors.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Lubrication.
Yeah.
No, you're right.
I mean, like, you know, the whole secret to that show was just not caring about, like
you said, like the burgers, the food, it was like the bits and, and honesty.
So there would be time, there would be times where we would be doing a bit.
And mostly, as I'm sure Manzookas can say, mostly it was my fault where I would be like,
we're going to hit this bit.
Like I would be like, do not give up on this bit.
Like let's keep doing this.
But we're going to hammer that.
I'm not going to give up on this bit.
Even though like three minutes ago, we had this amazingly in depth conversation about
like what happens when you die.
And I like, and, and I would go away for it and I, and be like, no, come on.
We need like one.
You're, you're discomfort, discomfort would, you know, the emotionality would force you
into a bit.
Yes.
And then the, the scene and not realizing that the scene is like, we'd have to say like,
stop, like pull back, stop and actually have that conversation about what you have happens
when you die and push through, you know, obviously I'm uncomfortable, but like push through that
because it'll like in like every good improv scene, it'll lead to a better joke later.
If you're just like.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
And that's what's so great is your, the joke, the show is so effortlessly funny, but in
a way that is oftentimes through the exploration of genuine heartfelt emotional concepts and
ideas and the things that you guys are going through, you're, the show is diffused with
that emotionality, but then still finding incredibly funny and silly bits.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think that's who we are, who we are and, and who, and I wanted to say, and it's a good
segue if I'm going to use one of your tricks ball because I'm, I, before we go, I need
to say thank you to you guys, you know, obviously said for you guys are like two of them, not
just like the people I've watched the most, but literally the people I've spent the most
time with asking questions and, and never once did either of you guys, I mean, I'm talking
when I was like, you know, 20, never once were you like, you're not going to make it.
Both of you from the moment it was just like, yeah, let's go, learn it, keep going.
But that was like, that's part of the fun of like this world that we came from.
And I was talking about this the other day, like the community that we came from and that
UCB world that we were lucky to be a part of at the time that we were a part of it,
like built this sense of like, we were all super supportive in it together.
I just had lunch with Ben Rogers today, who Action Boys podcast.
Ben has a podcast coming out that I can't wait to,
Is it his guy?
It's his, it's his guy.
The Night Hawk.
Is it the Night Wolf?
Is it?
No, it's something different.
It is something.
Because have you heard that character?
Yes.
Okay.
This is not Night Wolf.
Holy shit.
This is a different thing.
I don't want to spoil it because I don't think he's announced it.
Yeah, don't spoil it.
It's really great.
But we went out to lunch.
I haven't seen him in a long time, but it was like, oh, I saw him like a week ago.
Like that kind of like, we have that kind of connection.
I think we all have been incredibly supportive of each other all the way through.
Yeah, but you guys, but you two specifically, and obviously like our crew, but you two specifically
were in my life as teachers.
And that's, that is a relationship that is fraught with, it can be fraught with all sorts
of stuff.
And never once in my whole life did you guys ever not like throw the rope back down.
And that is incredibly, uh, encouraging to a young comedian, you know?
And so like now to be 40 and, and like working, it's really, I owe a lot to you guys.
So I really want to say thank you.
Wow.
Oh, absolutely.
I mean, and like to echo what Paul said, like, I feel like this, uh, this community that
we came out of, you know, what you're describing, how you feel about us.
I feel about people above me who were always put their successes, made them turn around
and pull me up.
You know, there was a way that that was, I feel like that's the, that is the cycle that
I, I'm so grateful to have both benefited from and then have been on the other side
and been able to help, uh, uh, people from, you know,
Yeah.
And I feel like I, I continue to try to do it.
Um, but, but even still today, like you always need help in this industry.
You always need to be like having help and the fact that I can still, you guys still
help me is amazing.
So thank you.
Well, and you know, I also just say like we were shown that by the UCB for when we first
started there, like as they got more famous, they let us start doing bits on Conan or introduced
a set.
Yeah.
I feel like there's no, I mean, I don't understand the downside of hoarding anything because
it's sort of like, I don't know, there's different ways of approaching stuff, but yeah.
It's just so hard to get for anything to happen that, and especially now it must be hard
to find a community, but it, it was truly lucky that, that, that it was a time and a
place where like that was part of the thing too.
It was like, it was how funny you were, but also like, could you help someone out as part
of the stock that you had?
Like, can you help people who, who, because the people here are the most funniest.
So that will help you.
And like that is, uh, uh, an amazing thing to be part of, you know,
Yeah, being a part of a community that was so predicated on, yes, being as funny as possible
and yes, like a healthy sense of competition, but really the whole scene was predicated
on support.
Yeah.
You know, like everybody.
Those cross shot pictures.
Those cross shot pictures are amazing.
Exactly.
Amazing.
I can't believe those 10 years ago and like, you know, the amount of us that posted those
pictures, like that's the amount of box office.
Like that's.
Oh no.
It's, it's really.
When you watch those shows and it's really impressive, you know, and that is a document
or a testament to a time and a place in our larger comedy scene that we all were, you
know, the, the, the, the, whether we're on all, all on Kroll show together.
We nonetheless were still doing improv shows with each other, going to see each other.
Every Friday night.
Blah, blah.
Yeah, exactly.
You know, I mean.
We started along an important tradition.
I think it started back with Cordray Children's Hospital and continued all the way through
so many different things.
Which is like, Hey, will you come over here and work for a little bit of money, but it
will be a lot of fun.
And yeah.
And honestly, like, yeah, I'm psyched.
It's like, and all of a sudden, like these networks are like, Oh my gosh.
And then you get these other giant people to come in and play because it just looks
like fun.
I always remember like, we got Jeff Goldblum and JK Simmons to do some of the first, you
know, bits on NTSF just because they were excited to be in that community of people
doing fun stuff.
I feel like that really, yeah.
And it still is there.
I mean, this movie is another, like all these little movies I get to make are like part
of it.
Like they, they have a lot of the same people at my third movie with Reed, like my second
one with Zosha, like it's a lot of the same people because that's how I was taught to
do it.
Like, you know, like you, you have a little repertory company that you like working with.
Yeah.
And then you grow it and you grow it and you grow it.
You know, I, again, I know we're over time, but I would feel remiss if I didn't deeply
thank you guys.
Wow.
You don't have to.
But that's, I think we're, I think we're just, I know, but I told, I told Molly that
I would.
So now.
Now you have to.
I mean, we do, we do ask everybody to, we ask Molly to kind of make sure that everyone
does come in with at least something like that.
And she called me off guard, she called, she said, and what are you going to thank them
about?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
And so I, the last segment is the thank yous.
Yeah.
Luckily I had something locked in.
I'm sure it will be.
And we underneath this, we're going to put the end music from SNL, the good, the good
buys.
Put on, put on what's this they saying, ladies and gentlemen, Teenage Fan Club, Don Pardo's
introduction of Teenage Fan Club.
Teenage Fan Club.
Who invited Charlie out in theaters, selects theaters in New York, LA, Miami and streaming
wherever you have like a streaming on demand service, which you have at Apple TV, Roku,
it'll probably be on your television, add a Pali, follow him on all social media and
we'll talk to you soon later guys.
Thank you again.
Thank you Pali for chatting with us.
Be sure to check out who invited Charlie and select theaters and streaming on VOD now
to all you singer and songwriters out there.
Remember, we are always accepting new theme songs forward, just chat another last look
segment, send them to howtodiscutmadeityourwolf.com.
Now that we got Wild Mountain Time out of the way, let's talk about next week's movie.
We are going from a man who thinks he's a honeybee to a man obsessed with the number
23.
That's right.
Next week we are watching the number 23 starring Jim Carrey.
Here's a short breakdown of the plot.
A man's discovery of an obscure book about the number 23 leads him on a descent into
darkness as he becomes more and more convinced the book is based on his life.
Rod and Tomatoes gives this film a 7% on the tomato meter and Anthony Quinn, not like the
guy who played like Zorba, Zorba the Greek.
That's the thing, right?
Zorba the Greek?
I think that is.
All right, anyway.
And then Quinn from The Independent says, while dozing through this nonsense, you may
wish to speculate on the number's real significance to this movie, possibly the IQ of its writer.
BAM!
SLAM!
Anthony Quinn fucking nailed it.
All right, anyway, take a listen to the trailer for the number 23.
The number I'm seeing in everywhere.
What is 23?
2 divided by 3?
666.
Number the devil.
Walter Sparrow is about to discover.
My birthday.
2-3.
Social security number.
It's all 23.
There is a side to him.
He can't control.
What's happening to me?
This Friday, he'll become his own worst nightmare.
This is not who you are.
Jim Carrey.
Virginia Madsen.
The number 23.
Rated R.
You can stream the number 23 for free on Tubi or rent it on Apple TV, Amazon, and YouTube.
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We will see you next week for the number 23.