How Did This Get Made? - Law Abiding Citizen LIVE! w/ Adam Pally

Episode Date: March 13, 2026

Gerard Butler and Jamie Foxx star in the 2009 crime thriller Law Abiding Citizen—a movie that exists in a world where lawyers and cops are the same job. LIVE from the movie's setting in Philadelphia, HDTGM all-star Adam Pally (Staying Alive) joins Paul and Jason to break down the slew of plot holes, the nude arrest scene, the cell phone headshot explosion, the old timey underground prison tunnels, the robot machine gun, and so much more. Plus, multiple audience experts provide insider info during the Q&A and June sends a message describing what she thinks the movie is about.   Check out Adam's new comedy special An Intimate Evening with Adam Pally on HBO Max!   Buy our t-shirt for this episode here. • Go to hdtgm.com for tour dates, merch, FAQs, and more• Have a Last Looks correction or omission? Call 619-PAULASK to leave us a voicemail!• Submit your Last Looks theme song to us here• Join the HDTGM conversation on Discord: discord.gg/hdtgm• Buy merch at howdidthisgetmade.dashery.com/• Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of Trauma• Shop our new hat collection at podswag.com• Paul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheer• Paul’s YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheer• Follow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer• Subscribe to Enter The Dark Web w/ Paul & Rob Huebel: youtube.com/@enterthedarkweb• Listen to Unspooled with Paul & Amy Nicholson: unspooledpodcast.com• Listen to The Deep Dive with June & Jessica St. Clair: thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcast• Instagram: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & @junediane• Twitter: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & msjunediane  • Jason is not on social media• Episode transcripts available at how-did-this-get-made.simplecast.com/episodesGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

When you can't get justice, build a tunnel. We saw a law-abiding citizen, so you know what that means? We are live at the miller, women, Justin and Kelly. We are live at the Miller talking about a Gerard Butler classic. Some people say Rocky is a movie from Philadelphia, and I say no. Law-abiding citizen is a movie from Philadelphia. Let's talk about this film, shall we? If you've not seen it, IMDB describes it like this.

A frustrated man decides to take justice into his own hands after a plea bargain sets one of his family's killers free. Law-abiding citizen. Well, yeah, that kind of skirts over a couple. of details. Taglines, a man who loses everything is capable of anything.

And then they killed his family. Now justice is his vengeance. Doesn't roll off the tongue, but it feels good. Budget, 53 million. Opening weekend, 21, domestic growth, 73. This movie was

successful. Worldwide, $127 million. This deserves a sequel. And hopefully tonight, with all of you renting it here in Philadelphia, it might just turn the right wheels. Someone at Apple TV is like, wait a second, hold on. Jerry, we got one.

We're going to break down this movie. A movie that makes complete and total sense. A movie that doesn't have plot holes. A movie where I don't know who I'm rooting for. And I'm okay with that. But to do it, I need to bring out my co-host. Please welcome Jason, Manzoukas. What's up, jerks?

Let's go, Philly. Oh, oh, shit. We did it. Now, Jason. Paul, you said you weren't sure who you were rooting for. Yeah. I'm rooting for. Jerry.

Well. Kill them all, Jerry. Kill them all. I will say I'm with you. I was upset at the end and I'm like, venom and tearing myself. I wish I could have driven by a crater in this city that Jerry Butler blew up. Um,

did you remember, I remembered this movie and it. I didn't. Okay. I hadn't seen it, but I didn't even remember it existing. This is why I remember it. And this could be completely wrong, but I don't think so.

This was a spec script that was going around, and people said, we have our next seven. Like, that's, you're like, you like seven, you got to read this script. I remember an agent was like, everyone's going wild about this script. I don't know why. Other than it is a script that is like, wow, what an incredible villain. Right. and everybody else sucks. Everybody else is so drab and boring.

I don't care about anybody but Jerry, and all I want is for him to triumph over everyone. 100%. More tunnels. Dig more tunnels, Jerry. More penises cut off by tiny little razor blades. That actually felt like more painful for him than the guy. I'm like,

you've got to get it. It was too much. Just, yeah. It was a lot. It was old. That scene I fast forwarded part of because I was like, I don't need this. I don't want to see it. I don't need any of this. Now, we are missing one of our co-host tonight, but we decided to call in

how did this get made All-Star. You know this person from his podcast, from his television shows like happy endings, from the throwback, his brand new HBO comedy special. Please welcome Adam Pelly!

That's very... Let's see if you're doing that in about 45 minutes. So a third of the way through the show? That's generous. Adam, so excited to have you here. Thank you, so I'm so happy to be here. Thank you. I just want to set the room for you in this way. Gerard Butler has become one of the people that we have done the most in the show.

his films. Maybe a patron saint of this show. Yes. Sure, he's keeping it going. We worship at the church of Jerry Butler. He pays you more than serious. Yes, very much so. I will say, Jerry Butler made a video for this show.

He knows where his bread is butler. So I think we are always predisposed to enjoy a Jerry Butler, but you're coming in. You don't have to like a Jerry Butler. I just want you to know if you feel this audience. This audience is. is, I mean... Pro G.B. Pro G.B. Oh, yeah.

Just wanted to let you know that. This audience is chat GBT. We did get a little of the butt and Butler here, too, with that scene where I feel like they were like, we need to add like some sexy things. He's like, oh, the cops are about to come and get me. I better take off all my clothes.

I'm surprised that none of the cops that came in were like, oh, you don't. Johnny. I'm surprised more people just don't do this as a strategy. Yeah, me too. If I know they're coming for me, guess what? You have to look and touch at my

dick. I'm going to start doing it if I feel threatened by someone walking behind me. Done. I'm going to take my call. I'd be like, I know exactly what you want. If I don't like the second opinion songs, I'm going to be like, take it off. Take it off. I think that this movie, if you

don't like this movie, if you do like this movie, he teaches a very important lesson, which is always use the peephole on your door. Because That's all it would have taken. None of the movie happens if someone uses, if the peephole gets used and it's like, I don't know who it is.

Blop. Oh, it's a man standing with a bat cocked. Like, he opens that door. The bat wasn't from behind. It was like, he was like Flintstones over the shoulder like, Bapank. Can I ask a question? Yeah, I have a couple

of questions. Yeah, sure. And it's about our two baddies. I can't remember their names right now. Ames and... Taxidermy Jesse Plemons. Or imploding William Forsyth? Drown to Philip Seymour

Hoffman. RIP, RIP. But my question is about the baddies. Sure. Are they there purposefully? Well, I... Do we find out, is this a random? No, because he says to the guy, the tagline, right?

The fate tagline, which implies to me that he's involved with someone that Jerry has done questionable action. I believe that, too, but is it ever, can I... They never label it as such. I was wondering if I'd missed a, like a component. One of the many ends that are yet to be tied. Truly, because for them to just, it is the equivalent of, Alfie Allen killing John Wick's dog. It's like,

why? Why? You can take a spoiler from John Wick one. Hang on. Or you guys can know that's why he does everything. Get out. Get out. John Wick's dog dies in one. You bring up a good... In the prestige, he's playing twins. Dumbledore dies. He's not playing twins. He is twins.

He's playing... Just like Danny DeVito and Arnold Schwarzen. I'll tell you about the suspect, but I'd rather tell you about Kevin Spacey where he ended up. I wasn't sure. Were they there because of some vendetta against Jerry Bull, or was it just random? It would seem like at one point, there's moments where they confront each other where someone could say, like, see? But they don't do it.

I mean, he says, like, you can't escape fate, but without any backstory, that's a tough line. It's like, well, if you have kids and a wife, they will get murdered and raped. That's fate. Is that it? You got out, you started a family, but we're going to pull you back in? I don't think that those people are.

You can't run. It's like you still did all that hitmanning. Yes, yes, completely. But it seems like he's killing, like, leaders of third world country. It wasn't like he was taking care of business and Philly. They keep saying he's a tactician. A brain engineer. An engineer.

And a brain. He's not like. And now the first scene we do meet him, he is dealing with explosives at the kitchen table. While his daughter is drawing. Oh, it's so good. And I love that they try and make him nerdy at the beginning. Oh, my God, it's like, yeah, all of a sudden, Jerry Butler's Rick Moranus. If we put his hair down, he'll look real nerdy.

Because he even does stuff like, oh, but I, oh, I'm like. I also couldn't figure out what is the time frame of this movie? Ten years pass, and it's very hard to tell. Wait, what? Yeah. Yeah, they say 10 years. Yeah. When?

When do, wait, wait. Because. I'm not kidding. When do those 10 years back? When Jamie Fox comes home from the first trial, he's like, let me talk to my daughter, and Regina's pregnant, and then the daughter is, like, playing in a cello concert. It takes 10 years. That's the same daughter?

Yeah. It takes, yeah. Okay, okay, that helps me. No, but I also. That does help me because. Yes, I guess. Because I was like, when the fuck did he dig this tunnel? When did he dig the tunnel?

He had 10 years of digging. He had 10 years. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Holy shit, that fucked me up. Yeah. I wrote so many times. What's the time frame? Where didn't he just, didn't this, I was so confused. Well, the amount of times that I wrote down, what year was this movie made?

This is a great. Because everyone has flip phones, but also everyone has iPhones. Yes. Smartphones and landlines. And landlines and iPhones and old smartphones. and old school recording attacks. I'm pretty sure I saw a sidekick. Yeah, an Iraq 2 bomb robot.

Yes. The year. Iraq 2. The empire strikes back of Iraq wars. I was going to tell. The robot looked janky. It wasn't from the first one. 2009.

Wow. It's, you know, it's right in that moment. I would have said earlier. You mentioned John Wick, Paul. Yeah. And like, I thought it had way more John Wick than Right, but was John, was the first John Wick made by the time this movie was made? Let's see.

I mean, I don't think. I think it's 2012. Because, or later. That's crazy to me that John Wick, the Keanu Reeves, who says like two words in that whole franchise is more likable for revenge murders for his dog than Gerard Butler for the murder and raping of his wife and child. I mean, this is the tricky thing, though, because this is a movie where I feel like there's a lot of big dick energy between both stars.

Because, like, Jamie Fox is like, well, I'm not a bad guy. And Gerard Butler is like, but I got to also be sympathetic. Like, they're too sympathetic. The movie that it reminded me of was the fugitive. Okay. For a lot of it. Before he goes to prison, obviously. How?

When you saw the fugitive, were you on mushrooms? Yes. How did this remind you the fugitive? That idea of the injustice of, now obviously he's not blamed for it, but the injustice of the, the inciting incident is his wife and daughter are murdered, justice is not served, and now he's not culp, made culpable, but nonetheless. Jerry. Jerry Butler's not blamed for it. I'm sorry, is what I mean in this movie. But nonetheless, and it then becomes about the two of the opposite sides.

But, like, Jamie Fox is outmatched in every single way, at every single time. turns. Yeah, go ahead. And when they meet the guy in the subway, and he's like, I'm a spy. I love that guy. He's not even what I am. This movie has so many bad writing. I wrote them down.

So many bad writing. So many bad writing. That's the only way to say it. It has so many bad writing. It has so many bad writing. I think this podcast has so many bad writing. And that comes from someone who does so much good reading. I do so much good reading.

I do so much good reading. So I. She knows about bad writing. but there's so much there's so many lines like she's 10 years old Rick it's like

I'm okay well when Leslie Bibb says I'm 35 and you're like well it doesn't seem like she's like and I've devoted a lot of my life I'm like wait she's supposed to be way younger but what she's saying is I've given up on having certain things because I believe in this

job which is to say at 35 she thinks she's like washed up well that's what I was trying to she's all right P and then she does die. Wait a minute. That's Leslie Bibb? Yeah.

That's... Holy shit. Honestly, I thought it was the girl from suits. Not Megan Markle. Megan Markle? No, I know Megan Markle. From suits. There's a tall blind on suits.

Yes. No, that's... I was like, oh, I guess it never happened for her after this. How much suits are you watching? Oh, um... The, what, the L.A. one? Yeah. I'm trying to...

to get a petition to get the LA one back. I remember that best. I remember that suits. That's the that's the Cupertino one. Suits for whatever reason, like someone in the marketing department of USA was like, I got it. What if we infiltrate

every dry cleaner and make all the dry cleaner like hangers have suits ads on them? For a year, all my dry cleaner only had suits ads whenever I pick up my dry cleaning. And I was like, this is Great.

I loved it. How many people is that working on? How many people are like, what should we put on tonight? You know what I just got from the dry cleaner? My winter coat. We should watch suits. It looks good. You know, and especially if the dry cleaner does a great job.

Like, wow, they got that stain out of the shirt. That's just suits is probably as good as them getting out to stand out. And they were right. I mean, that's how FX got me to watch the bear. I was walking on the street. A wild

bear was chasing that. And then almost someone was like, Chuck! And the bear turned around, was totally trained, and then they were like, watch the bear, season five coming on FX. Like, that is good marketing. FX is always about being creative in the

ad space. Yeah, they just walk around too out here, just screaming at people behind. Behind. And when you turn around, they're like, watch the bear. And then I just say, yes, chef. Which is also what I say in bed. Well, yeah, that's because the other person's yelling behind.

Good to have you back, palie. Happy to be here. I love that the... I'm sorry, go ahead. I was just going to say, I go up and I kiss older women on the mouth, and I say, watch a golden bachelor. But you're getting paid for that. I'm not getting paid for it yet,

but I think if they get enough viewers, they might reach out. I love it. I love that as a strategy. That's great. I loved that the movie is moving at a sprint. And that's a little bit why I didn't clock the time. No, I didn't either.

Because it's so condensed. The first scenes are the ones we described, the home invasion, the rape and murder of the wife and daughter. And I will say that that home invasion scene, like you have barely met, anyone do care and then it's like, bam, boom, boom

and we're watching this thing transpire, that is brutal. Like, it's never like a fun wait. It's a tough first seat. And there's, and it's the cold open. Yeah. The titles and credits are after this. Live from New York, it's Saturday night.

And I think, I think it's a hard thing. I'm sorry, but like, I do have an issue with the young girl. She should have run away. She was standing there for way to. I hate it when a young kid is so in shock they have to stand there. Like, I got a seven-year-old. If I say stand there, he's at the deli.

I've never seen my kid stand that still. But I think what you really want, and this is, like, the core problem with the movie is you need Jamie Fox to be an asshole. Like, he's got to be like, who cares, man? But he's too sympathetic. He's like, hey, dude, I know your wife and kid were murdered. And because he's nice, you're like, well, you're nice. Well, and we also get insight into his family life.

And so in every way, we're on his side in a way that I agree. He should have been an absolute prick. But he is, but he comes across, I think, caring. Oh, for sure, because the movie wants him to be the protagonist, I believe. I don't think they understood that Jerry Butler would be so charismatic and that we would root for him unequivocally. There's so much, and I'm certain as we go on, we're going to need a lawyer, a professional lawyer out here. I'm sure there's at least one. We're going to have legal questions.

But it is so hilarious to me that over the course of this, in the great gigantic city of Philadelphia, there appears to be three lawyers and one judge. They all get the only cases that matter. The judge, the judge is the same judge as the last case. She's now on this case, too? You know you're getting to the court. because we're going to do a flyover shot of Ben Franklin. They also... Over and over.

I was like, what... Did I miss where Ben Franklin... It's... Who is it? It's not Ben Franklin. William who? William. William.

William. William Penn. William Penn. William Penn. William Penn. William Penn. I see you. I'm more of a friend of his brother, Gary.

I... I... I... But, like, it's just, you know... It's just all those tropes are like so... so there and he is so dead in the law scenes

and then you do get this little glimpse of Jamie Fox when he's like with Regina you know and he's like he's making jokes talking to the baby yeah he's like do you know you make better grilled cheese and your mom yeah it's like and he's like he's alive you know what I mean and then the law scenes are

just like whoa well his stuff with Jerry I wanted them to have that kind of friction and tension Of chemistry. Yes, because they are going head to head. Well, as you're talking about, you want that tension, why are they holding Jerry Butler in the Hannibal Lecter cell?

It's an octagon. It's a giant. What is going on? There were guards on the roof. By the way, that is terrible use of that space. That is like 14,000 square feet of prison. And by the way, all open to get confessions. Like, it's an airy.

I kept being like, why did he turn the thing off if there are guards all around? Yep. Watching him. There's so many weird inconsistencies in the logic of the whole thing because also the skinny little dude who is standing in the door frame and like, there's enough DNA evidence on that guy, but the guy who literally raped and murdered and touched every one of them. He's the only one who's touched everyone. Nothing from him. I've seen enough law and order and billions to understand how the Attorney General's office works.

Oh, but you don't watch suits? Absolutely not. I respect myself. Okay, Gary Billions. Oh, man. Billions? His name is Billions. Wait, no.

His name is Bill Yuns. William Yons. Are you being... No, no. By the way, they kind of just lie about how that evidence is like, oh, yeah, you clean the crime scene weird. Again, he touched every single one of them, was all over them in every way. Why not flip the other guy against the real baddie? I couldn't figure that out.

I guess because it would be harder to see Jerry Butler kill the skinny guy who didn't do that much. But then he does anyway. So it doesn't really make a difference. He kills everybody. Oh, everybody. In what world are the. lawyers watching an execution. Yeah. Oh, well,

these lawyers do everything. In what world? That one guy goes, I just came because he has no family. Yeah. Like, what are they selling? That was his lawyer. That was the bad guy's lawyer. And then the other, there's like other people in the back row. Like, what was this? On TKTS?

I couldn't get into O'Mary, so I guess I'm seeing this execution. I guess I'm seeing the execution of the less guilty one in this small trial in Pennsylvania. And then Jamie Fox, like, Leslie Bev's like, I've never seen one before. He's like, eh, it's no problem. It's like he's going to sleep.

This is fucked up? No, you're watching a man get killed. Oh, so minimized. Can you imagine working at that firm and you're like, heading home early tonight? Jamie Fox's like, nah, I'm going to go check out an execution. Your daughter's cello recitals tonight. I got to watch a guy yet.

I got to go watch the life go out of a man's eyes. And it's like, and the way. they cut it. They're cutting between the recital and the death penalty as if these are the two events. I wanted it so bad, and I'm going to jump to the end, at the end of that movie, when that daughter played that cello, I wanted that cello to explode on the lab. So bad. He did it. He fucking did it.

When the judge's cell phone headshots are. Oh, the best. I was like, Welcome to like the legendary status on this podcast. This movie is incredible. I don't know if the phone was a rifle. The line of dialogue she delivers right before it is, I'm a judge.

I can do whatever I want. But, but. What? No, you can't. You are bound by the law. And that, when you talk about some of the bad writing, that is exactly the example of bad writing. Because they're in the middle of the trial.

It's all to set up this one moment. In the middle of the trial, Jamie Fox's like, oh, let me take this. That's the craziest thing you could ever do. And you're like, how many times do I have to tell you in a murder trial? You can't pick up your phone. Right? So, okay, I guess we'll buy that.

So that's all set up just so when her phone rings. I thought you said don't pick up the phone. It's like, well, this is a completely different scenario. You're in private chambers. There's nothing going on. You're having a casual conversation. Also, why would you be that flip to the judge who you want on your side? Everyone treats the judge in two seconds.

It's like, hey, judge, how's it going? May you take it up the ass? Like, what? What? What? Just happened. What just happened? Right, we're like, why are we angry?

This woman feels very, like, rational. She doesn't seem like she gets upset. She's getting the short end of the stick. And, again, is the gun in the phone, or was there a... a sniper. I couldn't figure that device out at all. I think it was a phone gun. I think it was a phone gun.

A flip phone gun. I'll tell you right now, there's a reason I would never have it. Why is Jamie Fox so obsessed with DVDs? Oh, we'll get the DVD. We'll get it, and then... He says it five times and then says it as a joke in the law firm to someone

right before he's like, oh, what about on DVD? I was like, what? Does he have stock in this medium? Like, what? What I think is, going on is that Jamie Fox has missed many of his children's performances and he has sent someone to tape it and then

get a DVD of it so we can watch it wherever he is. Because the girl says oh, the video of my recital is here. Right. It's delivered by a messenger. It's like, oh, yep, my school recital on DVD just delivered. Here's the other thing. Don't answer the door!

At this point in the movie, Jamie Fox's entire family. His entire family should be in Alaska right now. The minute one person gets killed, everybody should go away. The family accepts a DVD being delivered. She is a young kid in

elementary school. Like, you're not getting, who's delivering DVDs? Like, yeah, we, we taped it, we burned it to a DVD, we made a bunch of copies, and we're going to hand-deliver it. It'll be to your house tomorrow night. Can you take it? Like, that to me is Jamie Fox shit. Jamie Fox is like, get that transferred to a DVD

and watch it my trailer. And I feel that that's some improvising. I mean, but again, because that's the only time he's alive. Right, in the movie, is when he's making some small thing about, like, you know... I'm a good dad. The want is he is trying so hard to be good.

The first moment that you meet him, he's sticking up for Leslie Bibb. You know, and the next... Oh, yeah, that was a weird moment. Because there was sexual tension. Yeah. Between him and Leslie Bibb if it wasn't for Chester. Right. I kept thinking

Chester... I kept thinking... I kept thinking Chester was somehow going to be a person. I thought Chester was the guy behind Leslie Bibb a couple times, but it's not him. I thought maybe Chester was going to be the accomplice to Jerry Butler. I thought maybe Bibb was going to be Jerry Butler. I was looking for connections that at the end of the movie was like, J.K., Jerry Butler's his own friend.

At which point killed Jerry Butler. He has nobody else working on his behalf. I literally, when Colmini, they have that scene where in the Colmini is like waiting outside the prison. I was like, oh, he's sent. He's the accomplished. I was like, oh, no, he's just there. He's just, is Cole Meaney the one? Is Cole Meany the one that looks like Michael Madsen in an open casket?

Yeah, I think so, yes. The police detective. Yeah. The, uh, I do want to, I mean, also the, the cold weather and the sound of this shot, like every white person looks more pale than they need to. It's like they all look gray. Well, they look gray because they're in Philly. Why?

And I guess, as someone who has not attended many in execution, do they put everybody out like they're in the crucifixion pose? Like, arms, like, let's move the table and the standing position. I can answer this. My brother-in-law is a lawyer. They literally, like, they racking him up, like, he's on an amusement park ride. It's like, r-in' dead man walking, he's in that position as well. And I don't know if it's just movies that are like, oh, anybody dying by execution is a Christ-like character.

Oh. Or if that's really how it's done, does anybody have experience? I don't think they're launching them up. Morgan, are you here? Morgan is here tonight. Morgan is here? Yep. Have you talked to him already?

There he is. Give it up for Morgan. Oh, there he is. Can we get house lights? Morgan, you better have some details. You better have trained to be a lawyer, Morgan, because we're going to need your expertise. Are you a lawyer, Morgan? Okay.

But I'll ask you one more question. If this was a D&D campaign, would it be believable? Okay, you'd have to have a really bad DM running it. We love Morgan. One of my favorite things in the movie is, okay, I'm going to start by saying, one of my most disappointing parts of the movie is when, Jerry gets put in jail, it gives him less momentum. And all I want is for him to be skyrocketing forward like he is in plane,

or like he is in Kandahar, or like he is in Greenland, or like he is in any of the other, geostorm, any of the other phenomenal movies. Oh, any of the Bannon, any of the Mike Bannon movies. The Bannonverse, absolutely. But when he goes to jail. You're talking about Steve Bannon, right? I know what you're reading.

He really, he gets kind of stuck in a, in a physical space. So he does so much, I love when he gets Del Frisco's. Oh, Del Frisco's. The Del Frisco's waiter. There's a waiter there. There's a truck. There's a white-jacketed waiter from Del Friscoe's in the prison. Like in India, and the funny thing about that is he didn't request the waiter.

Like, he just requested the meal. He was like, I want to steak with all the fix things. And they're like, like, maybe he should be. bring the waiter into. I thought that that was the accomplice for a little because he does this weird thing where he goes hey, hey, Garsohn, take 30% or whatever. Which is also like, the guy brought a steak all the way

to death row. You think he could like... He's not even on death row. He's dead. He's solitary, right? No, no, no. Because that's when he kills Post Malone. By the way, again, not quite sure about this. That's how you time this movie out. No face tattoos

on anyone. Yeah, truly. I do think that I agree with what you're saying about not having that Gerard Butler energy, but I do want to play the scene, which he does say the titular line. This is clip six. This is like the freak out moment with the judge, wherever again, everyone attacks the judge. Clip six. Your Honor, I'm a law-abiding citizen. Boom.

I'm just a regular guy. I am not a flight risk. And this is my first alleged defense. And the prosecution has not presented one single. piece of evidence against me. It's a slippery slope, Your Honor. Haven't we seen the result of such violations both internationally and domestically? Case and point would be Davey McDunna docket number 04-1325. I am actually inclined to agree with you, Mr. Shelton. The state has failed to establish a compelling basis for its motion, and I will grant bail in the amount of...

Your Honor, I would caution you not to do that. Thank you. Excuse me? No, I don't think I will excuse you. You see, this is what I'm talking about. You were about to let me go. Are you kidding me? So much reaction.

This is why we're here in the first place. You think I don't remember who you are, lady? I would tread carefully, Mr. Sheldon. Well, how carefully should I tread? Because apparently, I just killed two people. And you were about to let me walk right out that door. How misguided it? you. I feed you a couple of bullshit legal precedents, and there you go. You jump on it like

a bitch you need. Folks, you all hang out in the same little club. You will be held in contempt of this court. Madman of murderers back on the street. You're too busy treating the law like it's a fucking assembly line. One more time. Any idea what justice is? You are now in contempt of right and court. Just Christ, whatever happened to right and wrong, whatever happened to the people. Frail deny. Whatever happened is just... And I bet you take it off the fucking ass, bitch. That's my new acting monologue.

We never have to do an audition for anything now. I would love it if that's in the trailer, but there's like a record scratch noise where he did that when he turns and is like, and it just becomes such an asshole. He's so good. He's the best. Struggling with that Irish accent. Oh, strong. First of all, Scottish. But it whatever.

Scottish. He's struggling with his Shrek. And it's like. like, Shrek voice is bleeding out in that monologue. But I think that, like, I like the choice that Schwarzenegger eventually made where it's like, no, no, I'm just going to have the Austrian accent. I'm never going to try to hide it. I don't understand why he can't just be Shrek.

Right. He basically now is. He now basically just does Shrek. And that sometimes there's like a little wink. Him and Statham now are basically like, doesn't matter what citizen, a citizen of what country they are, they have the action. And they always, and I prefer that. How did he know? So you're telling, so this is 10 years later, right?

How did he know that he would get the same DA, the same judge? He's a brain, Jason, he's a brain. That is crazy. Well, I think that maybe they were like, you know, you get dibs on it. Like, oh, if all the murders connect, you get dibs, you collect them all kind of a thing. Yeah. It's a Pokemon Go situation. But he is like, he, in that scene, he is working his ass off, and he makes sense.

And he makes sense. Like his plan, not the way he executes his plan, but it's like, yeah, bad guys get off. I'm going to show you how bad you are. And the whole movie is predicated on that end scene. He's like, well, you did learn your lesson. I'm like, oh, that was it? Yes. Don't make deals with murderers.

And meanwhile, he killed so many innocent people who did nothing, who did nothing wrong. Leslie Bip did nothing wrong. Not for nothing. She survives. Chester makes it. Chester lives to tell another tale. How many people died when Jamie Fox plants the bomb in the prison. Yeah.

Oh. How many people die in that explosion? It's so big. It rocks the outside of the prison while he's walking away. He's walking away. That is a brick house prison and flames are shooting. I think it's pronounced brick house. But yeah, like it's, and also,

the ending is so, the ending is so unfulfilling. Oh, yes. How do they decide in prison movies who gets short-sleeved jumpsuits and who gets long-sleeves? I think you get to decide. That's a GB choice. Oh, I think you get to decide when you enter prison. Oh, see, I think it's an actor choice. I feel like there was definitely a fitting day.

Oh, yeah. Where they had the orange ones, the green ones, and all there. And G.B's going through it. I love to show my guns, you know. Yes. Are we, what's the point of casting me? By the way, this is definitely skinnier Gerard Butler, too. He looks fucking great.

Yeah, and you can see it when he gets naked for no reason. He, oh yeah. I mean, and this is, all right, so. It's also, you can also date the movie because he does the naked scene, but is very clearly not on any kind of steroids. Right, no. And that kind of a scene, now the actor would be jacked on steroids,

would be H-G-Hed out. Yeah, we'd seem mold looking like a tomato. But, you know, like, here's a thing. Tomato energy. Taked, tomato. He should never be jacked because he is a low-impact kinetic operations guy. Low-impact kinetic? Yeah, low-impact kinetic operations.

You know, it's spy stuff. That was such a crazy. L-I? Okay. There are so many crazy things that are said, and it's like in the beginning, like when the guy holds the gun and tries to shoot him and then there's little needles in the gun. Oh, I love that moment. He's like, that's a pufferfish needle.

Yeah, I was like, that's a puffer fish. It's also great when he's doing a different voice for the blonde-haired cop. And then another one for the guy pushing the thing, which is like slightly racist. And I love that that guy. They're like, hey, Nando. What's up? He's like, Ola. He's like, Ola, S.A.

Goma. Ola. Hey, tall. Oh, no, today has been local. Mia Studio in Librario. Did he kill that guy? Like, did he have to kill that guy? Yes, yes.

That sucks for that guy. Why are they letting A, a janitor into a solitary prison cell? Got to clean up. No, no, that was in town hall. That was in town hall. How did he get it at a prison? Oh, the tunnel. T tunnels.

How did he get out of prison? You know what? I think I was confused that I thought he was coming out of a jail. So that was before the reveal that he has built an underground city that he can move around. Oh, he's got train tracks under there. It is. Lighting. Honestly, I believe the cartels have seen this movie and are like, hang on.

This is a good idea. Maybe we should law-abiding citizen drugs into the country. When they first find the tunnel, it looks cartoonishly old-timey. Like, it looks like ducktailed. Like, it's like one of those things where, like, one guy pushes down the lever. You have to expect to see? I expected a chase on one of those at the end when Gerard in the cart. That would have been incredible.

Like Indiana Jones, too? Yes. So once we understand that this movie is, like, he's got the tunnel system, this means that every night he's sneaking out. Like, and no one ever, he's burying the lawyer, he's doing all of the hijinks of the movie. He's doing outside of his cell, which means in 2009, they have no cameras in this prison. No, they have plenty because he's hooked up to every one of them because they go, look, right. He's got pillows under the thing.

They think it's pillows. But. I'm a kinetic engineer. I think I know how to fake it. I love Ferris Bueller and I fucking do it like that. This is the easiest part. You just put the pillows under the blanket. The next part is where it gets challenging.

But I guess like the way that this movie like kind of thinks about prison is that five o'clock, they stop really watching the prisoners. Like, you know, it's like, well, it's the end of business day. We don't have to watch a person at night, at night. Like, it's because he's also coming back in. So at one point someone had to be like, do you hear that? Yeah, it sounded like a little door opened. What's crazy?

It's probably nothing. Well, there's only one person in there and there's no way in or out. So any sound, oh, you're going to worry about everything, Carl? The movie is huge. The movie is big in scope, right? At scale. It's about justice and it's about this and that. Big, big themes and ideas.

But it's really only about like five or four people. Right. There's no, there's so few ancillary. We don't know any of the other prisoners. We don't know any of the other lawyers beyond Bibb and Bruce McGill, the legend. Like, we don't know, we don't get any interesting side characters almost like when that guy comes in and he's the spy, I'm like, great, give me some insight into this world. I want to know where these guys. Nope, not at all.

It's so crazy too because every role is the most talented character actor in the history of cinema. I mean, everyone's great. This movie could have been called character actors making their nut for the year. Because it's like every one of them is like, that guy's amazing. And you have to suffer and watch Bruce McGill get blown up in a car. And sometimes be just seated like two seats down from the action, not even having lines. I was like, give Bruce McGill the day off. My favorite moment in the film was like, at 6 a.m. you'll die.

And so clearly they're working through the night. They decide, well, we got to work in the prison. We got to work in the prison. And of course, Jerry knows that's the only option. Yeah. So they're working at the prison. And then clearly, like, it feels to me like around 5.45 a. And they're like, well, we didn't figure it out.

And then they all just stare at the clock. All right. But I love the thing. At any moment, we're going to die. And then they just wait until 6 a. I'm like, oh, we didn't die. Well, I guess he's a liar. Boom, boom, bum, bum, bum.

Like, like. There was very little, like, do you think he did anything outside? Like, no one even, it was just like, well, I guess we were wrong. And also there's so little, they don't discuss amongst themselves anything. No. With the exception only of Bibb at one point saying to Jamie Fox, would you do it any differently? Right. And he says, absolutely not.

He is unwavering throughout. And that is a failing of the movie that the movie doesn't chip away at him and make him question himself and at the very end he's like I don't do deals with murderers and Jerry's like yes you learned your lesson and I'm like what is up? And that was the thing it was like he he needed to have that arc you got to change

I will say that I did like the part where I think it was Bruce Miguel goes he's saving you for last he had no shit like like and it was like oh you think it's because I'm Jamie Fox but it's also like clearly like

we'll kill everyone around you and then you'll get to what, like he wants to what. But they did, it does make sense when you think of the way they, they kind of did the worst, most gruesome killing right off the bat. Right. Like the first murder we see Gerard do is cutting off some guy's

eye lid so he can watch him cut off his own penis. Like it's like wildly graphic and horrible. And by the way, he didn't just cut off his penis. He cut off his balls first. Yeah, why did he use different? Yeah. Why were the balls tougher than the dead? He was like, I had to use four steps

for the dick and then I had to use a different one for the balls. I was like, it seems like it's in the same kind of. Honestly, everything down there is so soft. Yeah, it's like, what are we doing? A butter knife could take it off. Get it with your hands. I imagine at one point

you must be like, I know you want this guy to feel everything, but you're like, I think I did it though, right? Like, at a certain point you'd be like, I'm like, now is the part where I touch your dick. I'll put this carrot up your asshole. Yeah. What would have been amazing is if Somehow that guy, Darby, I think his name is, if he was the last one he builds up to, that's the person who most deserves justice or the violent ends that he meets, right?

But he's first. So now I'm satiated. I'm like, great, he did it. But now he's like, no. Now I have to take down the system. And I'm like, wait, are you the Calisi breaking the wheel? What is this? I don't understand. Well, they even have that scene where we've already done a scene of them in the interrogation room.

And then it comes back and he's like, I also want a stake. And Jamie Fox's like, I think we did this. Yeah, I think we did this. Yeah, I already gave you a bed. And he's like, no, no, no,

but I've got more information. Jamie Foxx, I don't care. He's like, well, you should care. He's like, okay, now I care. Like, what? What? Well, this is also the moment in the film where the movie does not know the difference between a cop and a lawyer.

Because Jamie Fox is like, we're going to get in the helicopter, boys. I'm like, how far away was Bill O'Reilly or whatever his name was? He is leading police into crime scenes. Oh, constantly. Wait, is he a cop? He's like, I got this. So much so that at the end, he's in the cell with a gun. Yeah.

And I'm like, you would not be here, my guy? That's a crime. Jamie Fox. I hope you have a permit for that. Jamie Fox also did not, like, even acknowledge, he's like, 10 degrees south, five minutes, 62, and he's like, got it. I know, I was like, wait, are minutes how we measure longitude and latitude? That's time.

That's not distance. Well, I want to go out to the crowd. I want to talk to you all. Can I? Yeah, go, yeah, please. Can we get house lights, and then also, if you're out there and you are a district attorney here in this town. We have one in the front.

Paul, this is a district attorney right here. Whoa, okay, hold on. All right, so hi, welcome. Thank you for representing. We did say that if you have some experience, you clearly do. You work here in the very cold hallways, it seems like, because also in this movie,

they're clearly outside, but inside. Like, their cold breath is coming out of their mouth in, like, an opening scene. All right, so tell me what you got. My name is McKenzie. I just wanted to confirm that actually this is exactly what my job is like every day. Okay, great, okay, great. So are you like Leslie Bib or are you like, where are you at?

Are you more Jamie Foxx anymore, Leslie Bibb, or are you more Bruce McGill? Have you given it all away at 35? I am 33. What's your favorite execution you've ever seen? She said that she's 33, she's got a bunch of cats. I was like, yeah, maybe. Would you have made a deal like this, like the way that Jamie Fox did? Oh, yes, great question.

I'm not sure how Jamie Fox is going to continue to be an assistant district attorney because not making deals with murderers is really unworkable. Sorry, everyone. Well, he becomes the district attorney in a small room very quickly when she says, grab me the Bible. No, he becomes mayor. Mayor, mayor. Wait, what? District attorney. District attorney?

Oh, sorry. Gary Penn. He becomes Gary Penn. He becomes. He becomes. He becomes. He becomes. He becomes.

Right, yes. That's the mayor holding the Bible with a lifeless look, like, the only character actor not cast in this movie. Wait, and Bruce McGill, he's taking Bruce McGill's position, right? Yeah. Okay, now, so my question, at that point, I was like, is Jamie Fox helping? Is he the guy, yeah. Has he been the inside man?

Because he wanted the promotion. Yeah. Which would have been cool, not the case. So making deals with murderers is what you're all about. If you listen to Fox News, I think they would tell you that's what we're up to. No, but honestly, like the criminal justice system, plea bargaining, it's kind of all built on that. For sure. We can get in a whole discussion.

But, you know. Great. Give it up for McKenzie. Great work. Thank you. All right. There's been a lot of energy over here, which means good question or utter destruction. Here we go.

Let's see. Let's see. All right. Hi, how are you? My name's Greta. First of all, I listened to your episode in dedication to you. to Averill on Tuesday. I was making pancakes in my kitchen for breakfast and it made me cry. It was beautiful. So my question, yes. So my question is we touched on it a little bit earlier

during Gerard's tirade at the judge during his bail hearing. He kind of punctuated that whole thing with, I bet you take it up the fucking ass, I believe, were his words. And I would like to know, A, what's the problem with that? And B, why is it such an insult? I love this. Wait, what was the B? Why is that an insult? Oh, 2009.

Yeah, 2009. This is 2009. This was before anal was normalized. Gay panic. Yeah. Because wouldn't it have been great if he was like, and I bet you take it up the ass and she was like, I do, but you're still out of order.

And what's wrong with that? And what's wrong with that? I'm a judge. I can do whatever I want. Ring, ring, ring. Uh-oh, boom. How! How!

My phone is blowing up. What's your name? What's your question? My name is Jenny, and not really a question, kind of like a second opinion for everybody. Sure. When my husband and I watch a movie,

I play a game where I paused it and I go, do you want to know what the ending is? Okay. And he either tells me yes or no. Okay. Last night, he, we both liked my ending a lot better. Okay, well, oh wait. So let's hear your ending now.

So here's what I thought was going to happen. I thought Gerard Butler was going to blow everybody up, kill everybody, and then frame Jamie Fox. Me too. Great. And I thought that what was going to really happen was, first I thought it was Leslie Bibb, and then right after I said this, she blew up, so not her. So then I was like.

But you knew it was Leslie Bibb, like off the bat? Like, yeah, I was like, no. I thought she... No, no, wait. I thought Leslie Bibb was going to then take his job. Like, Gerard Butler was going to get him in jail, frame him, and then she was going to have to be like,

we need somebody to pay for this, and he's going to give us testimony, and, you know, and make him go with a murderer. See, now, I agree with this, because why send the DVD to Jamie Fox's house? I agree. Right? And it was like, and I thought, oh,

they're going to find the DVD in his house. All the evidence, because they just had finished saying that he records everything, da-da-da-da. And then they were in the judge's chamber right before she, like, where, um, where she, like, they said all this crazy shit. And he got it all on tape, but you know he did. So it was like, oh, he's going to frame him now. I thought so, too. Well, there we go. You get hired.

I like that. And also, for those of you who are going to come next with questions, tell us the little games you and your spouse play. Yeah. Tell us about those little games. I don't want to answer your question until you peek back the curtain until your own little life. Ooh, we play a little game where I pause the movie. All right. Hi, uh, what's your name and your question?

Hey, I'm Dan. I'm actually in this movie. Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan! Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan! Dan! Dan! Dan! Dan! Dan! Dan! Dan! Dan! Dan! Dan! Dan! Dan! Dan! Dan taking the Morgan crown.

Morgan, I'm so sorry. Dan, what did you do in this movie? So it's not in any recognizable way because I was Colmini's body double. Oh, whoa. That's great. That's great. I'm so sorry I said all that.

Dan is a very good-looking man. He looks in great shape. You've obviously been taking care of yourself. For the listener, Dan does not look like he's been... No, and you know what? I would want to see a picture of myself in 2009 either, you know? So there's a shot where they're first looking into the hole, like the cave. Yeah.

And they're shining their flashlights, and it's my shoulder and my arm shining the flashlight. Wait, I love that. That's great. Nice. That's great. The better part of this story is those are not Gerard Butler's buns. Oh, wow. Wait a second.

Are they yours? No, okay. No, but I was there when they shot the body double doing the buns thing. All right, what was the energy like on set? Anything that you saw that was interesting? There? Any tensions? Any, yeah, what do you got?

So, you know, they put the cover on his... We're still in the butt. On his junk. Oh. This seems to be the scene. You can also speak generally to the experience of being on the movie. Yeah.

So I have an explanation. This scene really stuck. with Dan. I have an explanation for why he gets naked. Oh, thank you. That was the only part of the movie that made sense to me. Because they tried to explain it in that part of the

shoot, they were like, he gets naked so that the cops can see he's not armed. Oh, so they won't just immediately shoot him. Got it. Okay. Well, I guess there's other ways to do it, but sure. Give it up for Dan. Dan. Great job. A tour to

Thank you. Thank you, Dan. Great work. I just saw someone go, I was in it too. No. All right, so, all right, here we go. Hi, what's your name? Hi, my name's Will. Okay, and Will, you were in this movie? Yes, I was in. I did nine days on this as a prison guard.

Oh, wow. Were you there for the Del Friscoe's stabbing scene? Yes, I was, and they had, yeah, I was. It was originally going to be a rack of lamb. I do remember that. Really? Talk about words. about the wrong thing.

The director liked the restaurant so much. They worked it into the script. Yeah, that's not hard to imagine. Yeah, they had the after party for the premiere at Del Friscoes, here in Philly. Wait, there's a Del Friscoe's here as well. Yes.

Okay. Is it open late? It's right down the block. So I'm in the hallway when they bring the mattress in, and I improved and I point my nightstick out, and because of that, I didn't get a line when they put them in a cell. They took the line away from me

because I wouldn't have been there. But it worked out because if I did, I would have gone to Del Friscoes, and instead I went to the Philly Film Fest party, and I met my wife. Oh. Well, that's amazing. Two kids. Married 11 years, beautiful actress as well. And any bits that you guys do together? Any little games you want to tell us about?

Nicknames will take. If you have been in this movie, you are going to get preferential treatment. You're in this movie? No. Okay. Well, Paul goes upstairs. I will say that I knew someone who worked at Del Frisco's in New York, who said that, who was like a server there and said that multiple times a year, Delphrasco's in New York, big, like, finance, bro, power lunch, like alpha guys would go there.

And multiple times a year, some guy would choke on a steak, go to the bathroom, too embarrassed to ask for help, or tell their friends, and they would find them dead in the bathroom. Proud men dying, choking on stake because they're too afraid to ask for help. Get it together, guys. I am in the balcony. Hey! Hello, balcony monsters. All right.

Wait, Paul? Yes. There's a bigger balcony. Oh, I know. Okay. Wow. I'm going to get up there, I think, right? That's fucking too hot. Do I come back on to you?

Hi, what's her name? What's your question? Hi, I'm Rachel. So Wikipedia said this movie was edited down from an NC17. It was already pretty bloody, so I'm curious. I know the answer to that. It's the stabbing in the jail cell, the rack of ribs scene. It was very bloody, but it was more bloody. But that's bloody enough to get an NC17?

That's insane. Well, then he took the thing and ate his dick in there, too. Okay, okay. He kept cutting off everyone's dick. Let me come through this aisle. He used the guy's dick as a weapon. For the rest of the movie, they had to change it to his state. What we didn't see was down in that tunnel.

There was a bunch of dick. Just so many. It was a dick tunnel. Hi, what do you got? It's John and Paul. I loved your book. Oh, thank you so much. I appreciate you.

It's really meaningful. But I just wanted to say, like, this movie is what? what would happen with Batman if he saw his wife and daughter raped and murdered. We don't even get upset if that's what the premise of the movie is. Wait. We've talked about that happening multiple times.

And you guys just reacted like, what? I like it. I like that this is the origin story of Batman. So yeah, this is Philly's Batman, is Gerard Butler? Makes sense. Here, take a... We're running out of water in the bit, Keeve. By the way, that should be the shirt. Gerard Butler with a Batman cow saying Philly's Batman.

Yes. Yeah. That's a pretty great. It's good until we get a cease and desist from D.C. So buy them quick. There'll be collector's items. You ever dance with the devil in the pale moonlight. I'm going up.

What I was going to ask what Paul goes up was Jamie Fox going everywhere as a lawyer did remind me of Tom Cruise going everywhere as a doctor and eyes wide shut. I feel like these movies could... That could be a similar universe. And they meet up on collateral? Where do I know you from?

It is crazy that this is the same actor from collateral. That's why I kept thinking what I was watching. It's like, that's Django Unchained. Yeah. They're the same person. Like... I'm in the upper balcony. Wow.

Fuck. This is very high. That's like stressing the eye. It's very high up here. Wow. Okay. Anybody in this level been in the movie? You were.

All right. I love how the audience has now kind of come to grips with a lot of people are going to be in the movie. Like it's losing its luster. All right. Hi. How are you? Good. It was technically in my car that was in the movie.

Hey, that counts. that makes sense for the upper balcony people down here were in the movie people up there my car was in the movie in the aerial shot you can see the roof of my house to be fair that's how he met his mechanic what uh what scene was your car in uh it was in the parking lot of the prison

oh wow okay so it was a featured car what kind of car so my uh my ex's dad at the time was running a company where he was renting out cars to movie sets and he asked if I wanted my car to be in the new Jamie Fox movie so I was like sure why not? Yeah and then when you found I was a Gerard Butler movie too you're like well then definitely. What kind of car was it?

It was like a Dodge minivan. Pretty cool. If you're going to get a minivan they'll get a Chrysor Pacifica. I knew it was going to be something memorable because to have someone call you and be like hey you know that weird piece of shit you drive around? I bet a prison guard would drive that.

Can you park that by the prison? By the way, we haven't even talked about the robot shotgun EMF device. Oh, no, that's not a... It's not a shotgun at all. It is like a 50-caliber mini gun and a bazooka. And it was just sitting out in the cemetery, no one... No one noticed it. No one noticed it.

Oh, it's rolling around like Johnny 5 out there. Yeah. I mean, I have expected someone to say, $25 is alive. Hi, what's her name? What's a question? Hi, my name's Esme. I have a question about the murdered little girl. Finally. Be cool, be cool, be cool. I like kids.

She makes a bracelet for her dad and says daddy, and she makes a bracelet for her mom that says Heather. Why do you think that is? Wow. And you know what? That's another reason I wasn't super on Gerard's side at the beginning. I was like, this situation ship seems weird. It's going to take me about 10 minutes to get downstairs, guys, so keep it going.

I was thinking if the person that operated the robot gunman was at the premiere of this movie and, like, walking the robot gunman down the... It was Gerard Butler. Yeah, but, like, there was definitely a technique. But why was he, I guess, I was going to say, why is he wearing gloves? But I guess I understand, but the gloves look delicate to me. They did look like a woman. I was like maybe that would be...

He's wearing the gloves because you'd recognize Jerry's hands anywhere. A quick fact... Those big sausage whiskey pubs. All right, so here's some information about the sequel. In May, 2022, it was announced a standalone sequel was in development. Wait, 2022? Yep. Wow.

This movie must have had legs. Gerard Butler was going to serve as producer. Lucas Foster was going to return as his role as producer. and they were going to revisit these great characters stating that the premise seems even more relevant today than when the original film was released. Okay, hang on, hang on. Wait, are you saying, did you just say

Gerard Butler was going to be in it? Well, or he was a producer. Okay, okay. And then he goes, the filmmaker stated, we're going to blow your mind dot, dot, dot, again. And then, while the plot has not been revealed, they said that they see this film as a franchise. And then in 2025,

Gerard Butler said, yeah, every now and again we go, oh, it's a TV show that's happening. No, it's a prequel. No, it's a sequel. Butler laughs. I don't know. I would love it. I don't know what's happening.

It's a shame, because I'm very proud of that movie. It's very good, end quote. I agree. I would watch either a prequel. I mean, how they're going to pull that off, I don't know. Prequel is the way to go. I would love a prequel where he is like a, like a character is a young kinetic engineer, like blowing shit up, I don't know what.

Or I would love even more if he somehow survives sitting on the napalm briefcase. And he's like half burned up and he comes back two. face style. I love this. You know, like a real, and does it again. I also hated when they opened that briefcase and that one cop goes, Napalm.

He didn't know what the fuck he's looking at. Oh. And what's in there is a bunch of gobbled. Wires and yellow liquid, like green slime liquid. It's like, napalm. I was like, oh, that's napalm so well lit. I also like he was able to really figure out that air down to the minutes when he put that guy underground.

And I was like, that guy could have probably. held out 15 more minutes, I think. No one gave a ship. They must have really hated Bill because they were like Bill's dead. Like, yeah, but let's fuck with this guy more. And you're telling me they can move that briefcase bomb all the way to the prison

without it blowing up. Jerry didn't set in some sort of switch that's like, oh, if this gets moved, this gets picked out, any kinetic movement sets it off? Absolutely not. That's the thing. It's all potential. And I was rooting for it to blow

everybody up. Oh, I wanted... They should have both died. Yes. Oh, you mean Jerry and Jamie Fox? Oh, that would have been cool. That would have been great. Because honestly, I want to see Regina go off and meet someone. Yeah, she needs to get out of that. Again, I wanted

the daughter to blow up at the very end. Yeah. But Regina needed a new start in New York. Wouldn't it have been great? Tell me this wouldn't have been great. Jerry blows up. Cuts to Jamie Fox in the auditorium with his daughter's recitals, she's like,

bam. Yeah. The violin headshots are straight away. Right. No? Okay. Philly. Interesting. Originally, Gerard Butler was supposed to play

the Jamie Fox role. Oh, interesting. And Jamie Fox was supposed to play the Gerard Butler role. If you asked Gerard Butler, he said, I decided to switch parts. If you asked Jamie Fox, he says, I decided to switch parts.

I would have loved it if Gerard Butler played both roles. And they were twin brothers, prestige style. One has an accent, the other sort of has an accent. All right, obviously we have an opinion about this film, but there are people out there with a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions. Who, hi, my name is Wynn.

Woo. Bum-bum. Let's forget the... We don't need any order But bring on the torture Dada da da So many gruesome deaths, unexplained prison beds How did they not know that people would blow up in those calls

American accents are hot Bum bum bum how did this get made? I give it five stars. Amazing great job. Love it. Old school law and order, original law and order theme song. I didn't realize there was going to be

a kill-tony portion of this show. Law-abiding citizen has the average review of 4.7 out of 5 stars. Wow. I don't disagree. 84% of the 5% 7,725 reviews are five-star reviews.

Carl Pierce in 2013 writes, Gerard Butler is, in quotes, the man. What he had to do just to dig that tunnel, equipped with anything and everything, completely lit up, rail car to haul all that dirt. So here's the question. What happened with all that dirt? Holy shit

That's That's fucking awesome Five stars Five stars That's it right there People I love when you I love when you read one Which is like

What does this person care about? The dirt Wow The dirt As he built an underground city What happened That that I mean I'm sure he has a little

game with his wife Where he says where do you think all that dirt went? But he still gave it five stars. He loved it. Oh, yeah. Loved it. She's like, I bet he put it in a dump. And he says, I bet he put it at the beach. And then we fuck. I like this movie, babe. It's no Shawshank. You saw what happened with the dirt and Shawshank.

Rap R. Does not give this five stars, but ten. How is that allowed? I don't know. But the title of review is ten stars. Finally. and it starts off like this. A good movie for once. Oh my God. After renting and watching this movie Saturday night, not an hour later, I bought it.

Who wrote that, the guy from January 6th in the Buffalo Hat? That, oh, the QAnon Shaman? Yeah. This is one of my favorite movies now. The acting, amazing, the story, amazing. I can't stop thinking about it or stop telling people about it. Come Monday morning, I had five people I told to watch this movie by Sunday night, and every one of them agreed, this movie kicks,

and then it's all written so he doesn't want to be vulgar, ass. But he wrote it in an exclamation point and dollar cents. I agree with some of the reviewers that the ending could have been better, but it had to come to an end. That review feels like it was written by Chris Christie. This is a must-own movie for movie fanatics like me. It's a mix of seven and maybe death sentence with a little silence of the lambs. Maybe.

Amazing five-star movie. No, 10 stars. Unrated edition only available on Blu-ray? Fuck you. Trying to force Blu-ray discs on us for extra stuff is crazy. criminal. Screw Blu-ray. And that's all in caps,

and that's from President Donald Trump on truth social. I would believe it if Trump tried to appoint Jamie Fox's character, Attorney General of the United States. The character.

Someone get the Bible. He's got a 95% conviction rate. Mary Anne Greenlee writes this film was riveting and it shows just how the justice system in this country

really is. Quote unquote unfair and quote unquote manipulative. And what the character that Gerard Butler played so brilliantly is necessary for the rest of us to see. Another example of how

one man can make a difference. He changed Jamie Fox's character totally around and made him into a new and better man. I love this movie so much that the instant I saw it, I had to own it. I can watch it any time that I want and I enjoy it every time. Great acting, super exciting, kudos and accolades to whoever created this movie. This film is one of my very favorites and reaches in and touches that part of me

that knows that existing way that the court system is. today is not justice at all. And we get to experience and get that given the opportunity and experience of what Gerard's character had to go through, we would do the exact same thing to make the criminals of the world see

that there are a whole lot of people out here that if we had the chance and the skills would see that the criminals need to suffer the same way that they're victims suffer. The criminals of this magnitude never get to suffer the same way that their victims suffer at their vile and sick ways. And in this film, we get to vicariously get to have our revenge

button satisfied. Great way to avenge a wrongdoing. Five stars title, Justice at its finest. Holy shit. That is an audition monologue. A couple of things that don't make sense in this movie. The neurotoxin would have made Darby collapse, and he would not be able to hold himself upright. The graveyard murder robot would have also knocked out the radios

if it was an EMP device. Yeah, that was the problem with the robot. Clyde should have had scars when he stripped down naked from being stabbed in the belly. That's true. It says, pre-trial suspects are held in the body. county jail, not prisons, and not max security. No corrections officer

would give a lawyer a key to an inmate cell. Or let a waiter in the prison. Well, that goes to this one. Here's a spork. Prison guards would never allow a steakbone to enter a jail cell.

Steak bone. They gave him a spork. Pennsylvania correctional officers wear gray and black uniforms, not white. The district attorney is an elected county official. The mayor has no jurisdiction over the position, nor the authority to appoint one and make decisions regarding the office. Pennsylvania does not have wardens.

And confessions must be given voluntary. Trading goods for confession is bribery. That's a couple of inconsistency. Wow, incredible. And I will say, but you know what? What is this movie really about? Well, we asked one person who didn't see it to explain it. Oh, you guys didn't know what law-abiding citizen with Jamie Fox, two X's, and Jerry Butler is about?

Okay? That's weird. It's a wonderful motion picture. Of course, I haven't seen it, but I will speak on it. It's about two dear friends who set off on a buddy road trip together from your city to L.A., And they, one of them is kind of a business man, a regular nine to five, or living that quirk-rate life, just clocking in, but also fading away. Fading away, losing his life force.

Not a lot going on behind the eyes anymore. And that's Jamie Fox. On the other hand, we have Jerry Butler, his old friend from college. And they're off to California to see. someone's passed away, I think, that they knew. And so they're going to, a series of circumstances, the FAA, you know, cutting back air traffic control, they got to drive.

Okay, don't worry about why. And when they set off on this trip, what we come to find out is that Jerry Butler is actually in quite a bit of trouble, many gambling debts. And he's got a lot of people after him. And Jamie Fox is the law-abiding citizen and doesn't want anything to do with this. He is straight-laced as they come.

Of course, there's a giant scene that happens when they get to Vegas, but I'm not going to reveal that. I want you guys to just enjoy the film. But, yeah, it's so much fun. And they go to honor their dear friend, their fraternity brother who's passed from a terrible disease, you know, and they're trying to deal with that too and how precious this life is.

and so is this the time for Jamie to kind of let his hair down and is this the time for Jerry to grow up well we're going to find that out in law-abiding citizen there it is accurate

pretty close pretty close by the way I would love to watch that movie I love it I mean that movie sounds dynamite would you recommend it Jason hell yeah I didn't press pause once

I was just enjoying, I was letting it wash over me like a cool Scottish breeze. Yeah, I had a blast. I thought it was fun as hell. Yeah, as a joke. Okay. I was on the regional train from New York today coming up here. It was packed. I was sitting there. I was on the Estella.

I missed my estella. And as I sat next to a gentleman who sat next to me, He looked over and goes, good flick. And I said, sir, come to the Miller Theater tonight. He's like, nope, I'm taking 10 more stops to Baltimore. I like this movie. I like it. I think it could have been better.

And I feel like that is really the big thing. This was a movie that was supposed to be directed by Frank Deribon. He walked off the film because they changed too much of the plotting of it. So it would like it could have. Do you have what they changed? Was there anything... A couple of the details. Okay.

Well, they definitely made the lawyer likable. Yeah. I do think that that's like some of the stuff here. Yeah, it was probably all a lot of like the notes when they switched characters that each actor wanted. Right. I think that that, like, wait, hold on. I had a thing here. I'm curious because I agree.

It's so close to a good movie. Yeah. It has all of the pieces and parts, including, and I wouldn't be surprised if there was a fantastic script originally. that got Frank Darabon, that got all these actors, because, again, it's a murderer's row of actors who were like, yes, so put me in. I love it. All right, so this is what I was looking for. I'm sorry, took me a second here. The law-abiding citizen went through several versions before F. Gary Gray decided on the overall hated ending. There were rumors that Jamie Fox demanded a new ending where his character kills Clyde to save the people of City Hall. In one version, Nick and Clyde

fought in hand-to-hand combat, leading Nick to be arrested. His name was Nick? No. Oh, oh, yes. And Jerry's name is Clyde. So then Nick was going to be arrested, and this goes to our friend's point here, then he makes a deal of the district attorney

to become the new Clyde. So now he's Batman? I guess so. And who is Leslie Bibb? I mean, I think Catwoman. It was supposed to be Catherine Zeta Jones. No way.

Yeah. Well, I mean, would she have had a better storyline? Like, the character is underserved by the script in every way, shape, and form. Yeah. You know? I guess so right. And if you are to follow the coordinates from the film.

Oh, yeah. You'll be led to the hotel that the cast and crew stayed in in Philadelphia. And you will also find many people buried alive there. You know, I was supposed to play Chester. You shot that scene I shot my one scene And it was just you emailing him

And I went for it You were eating mac and cheese With one hand type Which is Which is I believe Hugh Jackman and Swordfish Yes Pally you have an amazing podcast

That I feel like I've talked to so many people That have said it's helped them Jason and I've been guests on it But you were talking about men's health In a way that I feel like people don't actually ever talk about like men's health Oh thanks

Men's Health, specifically, Men's Health Magazine. Men's Health Magazine. It's a podcast about men's health magazine. Every episode of the podcast covers another issue of the magazine. Five of the episodes we've recorded about Kumal. Yeah. No, it's like a podcast about health for people

who, like, done by before pictures. Right. You know, like, usually health podcasts are done by after pictures, but I'm a before picture. My co-host, John Gables is a before picture. So it's like done by people who can't get it together. And you guys are talking to people like us, but you're also talking to doctors.

You're genuinely pursuing and investigating and interrogating how we are taking care of ourselves or not. Exactly. Yeah. And what steps we're doing to just like prolong our lives? Because I think everybody, even people who are not, are doing something daily to keep themselves alive. Yes.

And it's called staying alive. There it is. Right behind. Oh, yeah. Look at that. But I also, I do have to just contractually, I've been told I have to do this anytime the smartless logo is up there. If you're looking for a new mobile carrier. Smartless mobile.

I have to do this. Smartless mobile. I am on smartless mobile. I am on smartless mobile. Every time I call Pally, I have to hear Will Arnett. He picks up for you. He does my message. You call me, he picks up, hey, out of Pally's phone.

I want to also just talk about your HBO special, which is fantastic. Again, it's available. Yeah, it's now, and it's on HBO Max and Go. And what is that called? I'm sorry, I've been called HBO Max Go. Yes. No, my special is called an intimate evening with Adam Pally. It's on HBO.

You could stream it tonight or any time. It's fantastic. We talked a lot about this on our last looks episode. We love it. great. There it is. Oh, cool. Thank you guys. Thank you so much for doing that. That's so nice to you guys. Jason.

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