How Did This Get Made? - Masters of the Universe w/ Tatiana Maslany (HDTGM Matinee)

Episode Date: April 8, 2025

Tatiana Maslany (She-Hulk, Orphan Black) joins Paul, June, and Jason to break down 1987's Masters of the Universe, a He-Man movie starring Dolph Lundgren on Earth with a bunch of teens. They discuss Courteney Cox’s emotional journey, He-Man not being spectacular at anything, the big battle being mostly shot in the dark, and everyone’s favorite character Karg. Plus, June explains how the movie made her realize she's afraid of mirages. (Originally Released 10/02/2015) Check out Blake Harris’ Oral History of Masters of the Universe at www.slashfilm.com/540279/masters-of-the-universe-oral-history/  Get tix for our May 9th Toronto show at hdtgm.comHave a correction or omission for Last Looks? Call 619-PAULASK to leave us a voicemail!Buy HDTGM merch at howdidthisgetmade.dashery.com/Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of TraumaJoin the HDTGM conversation on Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmShop our new hat collection at podswag.comPaul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheerPaul’s YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheerFollow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheerSubscribe to Enter The Dark Web w/ Paul and Rob Huebel: youtube.com/@enterthedarkwebListen to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson: unspooledpodcast.comListen to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael: thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcastInstagram: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & @junedianeTwitter: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & msjunediane  Jason is not on social mediaEpisode transcripts available at how-did-this-get-made.simplecast.com/episodesGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm

Finally, He-Man the way you want to see him on Earth with a bunch of teens. We saw Masters of the Universe, so you know what that means. Now it's time for How to Discapade. We're gonna have a good time, celebrate some failure, not just be the hater, cause you know you wonder how to discapade. Let's follow in the mediocrity of subpar art. Perhaps we'll find the answer to the question, how did this get made? Hello, people of Earth, and welcome to

How Did This Get Made, old school theme song. Please welcome my two co-hosts, Jason Manzoukas. How are you, Jason? I'm good, Paul, how are you? Very good. And June Diane Raefiel, how are you, June? I'm doing great, how are you, Paul? Really good.

I wanna remind you guys, if you've not been reading them, Blake Harris has been writing amazing How Did This Get Made companion pieces. He's interviewing real people from these movies, talking to them and getting great stories. Masters of the Universe is the same story there. Check it out on SlashFilm. Here we go, we have a very special guest today.

Please welcome to the program, Emmy nominee, at this point, Emmy nominee, Tatiana Maslany, or froman Black, we are huge fans. We're so excited that you're here. I'm huge fans of this podcast. I'm a few huge fans of this podcast. Recording this on Emmy weekend. Yeah.

Yeah. I love it. We could technically, in a couple days when this gets released, we could be saying, Emmy winner. We could be really, you know. I don't. I highly doubt it. Do you want to try your dresses on for us?

Yes. And we can help you decide what to wear this weekend? Are we actually just being carted in right now? Perfect. This is gonna be great. We'll all be trying on outfits. And we're here to do hair and makeup for you. Great.

Yes. And the winner of the podcast gets to be your date to the Emmy, right? Yes. This is gonna be very exciting. Unfortunately, it's coming out after the Emmy, so that contest is really messed up. This movie, Masters of the Universe,

has been a movie that people have told us to do for a very long time, and has been unavailable. And it finally came on Netflix. I can't imagine why this movie wasn't available to watch just easily. It still wasn't available on Canadian Netflix, P.S. Oh, really? No, I had to buy this movie well we thank you

This movie is consider yourselves lucky yeah, I do now I own it Well now it's gonna make a really nice piece in your bookcase of DVDs Just Masters of the universe right up there. This movie is to me, and I know we're gonna probably upset some diehard He-Man fans, but has nothing to do with He-Man at all, really. I mean, like anything that I remember of it, orco and a tiger. I don't know the He-Man mythology.

This is my intro to it. So I was like, I just took it at face value. Like this is what he is. Well, it's interesting because the first shot of He-Man, like the first kind of, the first time we see him after we meet Skeletor, he looks just disinterested. Yeah. Just like, it's like the strangest reaction.

He's just like, yeah. Well this brings me to like- Like he doesn't even wanna be there. It brings me to my first point, which is He-Man seems to be not spectacular at anything. No, his fight style is like marked at like it's like a it's like a rehearsal. Yeah. Like we're just like kind of going to walk through the motion. Yes. Slow and deliberate like 50 percent.

Yeah. Is he man's I mean, are his I also don't know that he man's we have to only base it on what we're watching. So I guess. OK, but he's just strong. But he doesn't even seem that strong. He doesn't seem that much stronger than anyone that he fights. Sure. It doesn't seem like his sword work is any much better.

Like he just kind of holds it in the air. Yeah. To be fair, he uses the sword more, more than using the sword to cut down people. He uses it to deflect laser blasts and to hold in the other hand from the hand that he's holding a gun in. He uses shooting guns always.

A lot of gun shooting. He uses his sword as a shield and then uses his gun as his weapon, which is a bizarre thing. I did not play with him in. The cartoons were not anything I watched, but I don't remember him having a laser gun as part of his setup It also felt like he was just kind of picking those up off. Yes round like he wasn't something he had it was

Scavenger it was like a playing a game of halo like you run around and pick up Yeah, was this considered like a he-man movie like yes. I mean this is the old this is the man Wow Is this considered like a He-Man movie? Yes, I mean this is the only He-Man movie. Wow. Live action He-Man. Again, I don't know He-Man, I don't feel connected to him as a character, but I feel badly for him. But do you now?

This was it. But here's the thing. The end of the movie, spoiler alert, but the end of the movie he does take the sword back and goes, I have the power, which is not the He-Man saying, but yeah, he's like by the power of... Isn't which is not the He-Man saying, but like, yeah, he said by the power of... Isn't that the end of He-Man saying,

by the power of Grayskull, I have the power. Oh, okay. I think that is... He said power twice in his... I think so. By the power of Grayskull, I have the power. That's right. But he, but even when he like, when he does that,

it's the first time that he has done that and he had the sword the entire time. I don't understand like what that gave him, the power didn't seem to be more. I think that was supposed to be giving him the power that Skeletor was trying to steal. Which is the power of the universe? Like that cosmic power kind of thing.

Well, which brings me to my next question, which is can anyone succinctly describe what the plot of this movie was? Oh, wow. That's a tough one. I know the emotional journey of the teens. Like, I feel like Courtney Cox's character was very- Courtney Cox is in this movie.

Yes. So in the movie. She's like 100% in this movie. I feel like she's giving, I mean, she is committed to this character, which is, I mean, I love, like, sometimes when you look at, like, the cast of Friends, they did do a lot of weird things, like Jennifer Aniston was in Leprechaun.

Oh yeah. Like Courtney Cox is in Masters of the Universe. Which also has a Leprechaun-esque character. Oh yeah, this movie. But see, what is her emotional journey, though? Well, the thing is, she lost her parents. In a plane crash? That her dad was the pilot. And it was just to go to a beach, Well, the thing is, she lost her parents in a plane crash.

That her dad was the pilot. And it was just to go to a beach, which seemed really close. Like, we're going to the beach in a plane. First of all, we see the house that she lives in with her parents. It's modest. Yeah. At best.

It is very modest. So her dad is not a- We get what you're saying. I mean, the subtext of that is, she's like a poor, gross person. Well, super gross. I don't, okay. She's a disgusting, garbage, poor person.

Who wears onesie pajamas. Her parents cannot afford a private plane. No, no, they're flying like a propeller, her dad is like a propeller plane pilot, I think. I mean, I think June's saying that he can only afford like a remote control airplane at best Flying as a hobby her daddy is wearing glasses for rich people the better people Society's chosen one. Okay, absolutely. We're gonna get a lot of feedback

on who's able to fly. Well look, I mean look, this podcast goes out to the right people. Get out of our skies, poor people. By the way, first of all, to purchase a plane and to, She seemingly takes the keys from the plane. To keep that plane in a hanger. Sure. First of all, to purchase a plane and to... She seemingly takes the keys from the plane. To keep that plane in a hanger.

Sure. Oh, hanger costs? This is an expensive hobby. It's like buying a boat. That's right. Kevin Hart can afford it, not her dumb parents. Yeah, they live in a very modest home. So, okay, so around the day they die.

But in a pretty nice suburb, a pretty nice little town, very idyllic kind of. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. For gross people, it's fine. June's really changed, guys. It's fine.

It's fine. It might as well be Detroit. June right now is burning money as she's talking. I do think it goes to her character's journey because she is supposed to be just a girl who's waitressing for some extra cash and wants to get out of this town, this podunk town. And so in that scenario,

her parents don't own a private plane. They do not. Well, by the way, why over-complicated? Just say they got into a car accident, right? I mean, a plane to fly to a beach was very- See, what I was so ready for, I was so ready for the scene in which, like, they justified why they were in a flight because I thought

When they went into that portal they were gonna zoom past their parents That you both anticipated you would see them flying in midair next to the plane. That's because. Grab them. You have to grab them. Grab them? Grab them. Wait, wait.

Grab them in the middle, like kind of like, and get them in there, and then all head out together. Yes, and to the other side. They're gonna grab them out of the plane? Yeah. Or just grab the plane. If you're- Cars, by the way, cars are going through that portal.

Okay. Oh yes. They could grab the plane. So you think the parents are continually in this portal of the airplane? I thought for sure we were gonna find them like midair and they were gonna exit on the other side. Cause why else would you put them in the air? Why? Yeah.

Why? Unless to use it. Yes. Yeah. It was insane. Well, it was insane. Well, that was insane. Yes, that was insane that they didn't do that. In my opinion. You know what I loved about that side story

was the introduction of it where it cuts to like, after like the cute banter like over chicken wings or something between Cornyn Cox and her boyfriend. Kevin. Sorry. Who's the real hero of the movie? Cause he's a man. Played by a guy.

So great. And then it cuts to a wide shot of just the car. And she goes, I really want to go say bye to my parents. He goes, yeah, sure. And it's just like, okay, I want to go to the graveyard to say bye to my parents. Yeah, sure. It's just like, okay, like, I want to go to the graveyard to say bye to my parents. Yeah, sure. It's just like, okay, that's the next thing that we do. They also, by the way, when they're at that gravesite, they're just looking at the gravesite,

and then there's like a really emotional moment, and they're like, oh cool, look, this thing just fell out of the sky. Oh wow, and they start playing with it immediately. And the thing is like, beep boop beep, and he's like, it's a Japanese synthesizer. Done. That fell from the sky. Decision made. I know what it is, Japanese synthesizer. One of those Japanese synthesizers.

By the way, just in case you are confused, yes, this movie starts in Eternia, which is the He-Man land, and then quickly and without any real- With like Skeletor and all of those, like all of the components of He-Man, I'm assuming. Right, for the first five minutes, and then clicks over to just present-day America.

I'm so happy they did that. I'm so happy. But with no transition. It was like, we're in it. We're in a rib shack. It was like, yes. It was as if seven minutes into Zardoz, he finds himself in, Sean Connery finds himself

in like 1984 suburban America, and is just running around with a rifle in his weird red diaper going like, ZAR DOGS! Like it's that jarring juxtaposition. And they don't seem, they don't seem to be trying to hide being in America. Well they don't know where they are, they just know they're on another planet. But, okay, this is my big problem. They don't seem, have they done this type of time traveling before through portals? I don't think so.

And has anyone in present day, 1984 or whatever year it was, seen anyone from... Eternia? Yeah! Because nobody seems that surprised. No, yeah. Oh, no. There's like a reallife gremlin walking around Jar Jar Binks for some reason

This movie is the production values are so terrible that I kept worrying for the actor in that Prosthetic because it moved so little I was like he must be dying by the way That's Billy Barty famous Billy Barty who's been in a lot of He must be dying by the way that's Billy Barty famous Billy Barty who's been in a lot of Costumes like that, but by the way these costumes hurt the actors very badly I thought bad for Franklin Jella well make a little tour Well, I think his is the one that doesn't have that many problems because Meg Foster's costume She's the the the woman who fought around with he man evil in oh wait. Oh no evil Woman who fought around with he man evil in oh, yes Oh, no evil Right evil and Meg Foster's evil in her costume weighed 45 pounds and the actress sustained bruises to her groin and breastplate

She gets me it constructed a fiberglass and it restricted her movements a great deal Which is why she's never shown sitting and she said the discomfort from the costume helped inform her performance But the weight and design of the costume made her puff out her chest during every take, which generated the character's slinky posture. You know what? I use a bruised groin all the time when I act. I'm like, oh, I'm going to use this bruised groin.

But I'm sorry to go back to the parents. I just need you for one second. Yeah. Courtney Cox's parents. So let me understand. They were all planning to go to the beach that day. Yes. No, no, I don't think so.

Yes. She wanted them to do something with her and stay. I thought. They were like, we're gonna go to the beach and she said, I'm gonna stay home and study. But she was really gonna stay home and make out with her boyfriend. I see, I got it.

That's what happened. Apologies. But was it that they were gonna not get on the plane if they were gonna go to the beach? Yes. That was my understanding. It was like, let's go to the beach, or we're going to get on this flight for some reason.

I thought at the end of the movie, they were going to go fly to the beach. And they're like, no, no, we can't fly to the beach. Yes. That's what I thought. I think that is what they said at the end. I think that she just thought if she was on the plane with them or stopped.

I mean, I don't know. I don't know. I mean, because now she's creating a final destination situation where maybe now death will come after the parents. But mean, because now she's creating a final destination situation where maybe the After the parents. This is the issue I had with the film There was no emotional journey for her if she had somehow made the wrong decision in the beginning that caused her parents death and then Come back to make such a different decision. Well, she came the decision that she made was like, oh don't get on the plane But there was no oh, right, she just stopped them from... She's still with Kevin.

She literally steals their, it seemed to me, their plane keys and runs away and ran away. That's what her father says, give me back those keys. And then she just ran away from the house. It wasn't like I'm gonna spend time with you. In a nightgown. In a nightgown. In like a Laura Ashley gigantic nightgown.

It looked like Little House on the Prairie. What we haven't explained what we're talking about. At the end of the movie, after they save Eternia and defeat Skeletor, the weird little troll guy sends them back to Earth, but before Courtney Cox's parents have died. So they're still alive. So that's why she's... Anyway, who cares? Well, so the movie obviously starts off, and for the beginning of it. We were looking at each other and going I didn't understand

What was going on? There is actually like the dialogue. I pulled a clip of this dialogue here Which is just the nonsense words of this is like the dialogue in the first five minutes here Hey, man, I show point a four chromons to moonrise a grayscale. We better find the key and we better find it fast five minutes here. If we're gonna split up, we've got to synchronize our personal locators You both ready? If you find the key activate the source Poor Dolph Lundgren. I feel like all of his lines. They're like, okay He can't say more than like five words in a row. Well, here's the buddy You're gonna do all the talking other guy with a mustache. Well, here's the thing too Apparently he did not know English during this film.

Oh, really? Blake Harris, who's been writing our things, actually interviewed his person who coached him. He was not supposed to be, his voice was not supposed to be in the movie. Oh, like Hercules in New York? Yes, and they were gonna give him, in his contract, it was he had three chances to dub it,

and if it didn't work, then they would get another actor, but they always intended to get another actor. But then the movie lost all of its financing, and they were like, oh, we gotta rush this out, so they didn't have time to redub the movie, so they just left it in. Wow! And that's where you get this performance.

He was sweet, I mean, he was just like fresh off the boat. It wasn't like, it was like body type only. Fresh off the boat on ABC? Check it out. Thursday night. It was so ADR, they were all this way. That's very subtle marketing. Hey, don't worry about it. Oh, that is very subtle marketing. body type only. Fresh off the boat on ABC. Check it out. Thursday night. It was so ADR. That's very subtle marketing.

Hey, don't worry about it. Oh, that is very subtle marketing. I love that guy Mitch on the show. He's funny. That is the character you play. Oh, not so funny. I didn't even think about that. Oh, wow.

That is crass. Well, I know that I, yeah, well, it's weird. I mean, I don't know. Stay tuned after that to watch the league on FXX. You're on that show, right? Well, I don't know what you mean. He-Man also disappears. Stay tuned after that to watch the league on FXX. You're on that show, right? I don't know what you mean. He-Man also disappears for a large chunk of the movie.

Well, that's the thing I wrote. I was like, there's a part of the... What I was shocked about was the... Here's a movie about He-Man and the masters of the universe kind of mythology and all this stuff. But most of it takes place in suburban America on like Main Street where every once in a while a huge battle will break out between Skeletor's forces and He-Man and his guys and there are never townspeople around anywhere. Like a war is happening in their tiny town. With spaceships and everybody's just like Darth Vader. No, yeah Everywhere for no reason I mean the is so I mean, yeah, they are straight-up black stormtroopers I mean, they're just instead of white stormtroopers. They're black stormtroopers. That's it. There's no real difference to them anyone else feel also that that we were

We were getting set up for he-Man and Courtney Cox's character to find love? Oh really? Oh I thought so too. I felt that in that first scene for sure. She seemed to have an issue with Kevin and... It was like Kevin was a bad boyfriend, but he wasn't a bad boyfriend. He seemed to be a pretty good guy.

He was really into music. You know what though I didn't like? Every time something happened to them, Kevin was like was like okay I'm in charge of it you know like they find she's like hey look at this thing over here and he's like oh cool Japanese synthesizer you stay here I'm gonna go take care of it you stay in the school you do like yeah like she is consistently marginalized and then at the end He-Man is like they have this big moment moment, she gets hit in battle, she takes the hit, like all this stuff, and He-Man is like, goodbye Courtney Cox character. And then he says to Kevin, you take care of her.

Like, come on, man. By the way, she also falls for the mirage of her dead mother. Oh yeah, big time. I mean, how do you not know that there is sorcery going on there? Yeah. She bought it so quickly because her mom's like, we're, like I wrote it down I think

because she was like, we. We've been doing secret work. Yeah, we've been doing secret work. It was not set up that her mom was like involved. It seemed like her mom could have been anything, but she's like, oh yeah, that makes sense. My mom was doing secret work, had to fake her death. That actually upset me. I mean the whole thing with the parents, you know, it was pretty, I think emotionally manipulative.

You think? Oh my god. I think emotionally manipulative Just like I can't watch this I'll tell you I will tell you one thing that when we were in Skeletor's castle by the way I think Franklin Jela is awesome in this movie and clearly I think just wrote his own Okay, he made Skeletor this like Shakespearean. So like his speeches are amazing Didn't you feel like the skeletor mask made him look like Jack Palance At the beginning of the movie I was like, oh it's Jack Palance and then I was like, oh no That's just the mask looks like Jack Palance. It's actually Franklin. Jell. It's like whether they took the William Shatner mask and made the

Halloween Jason for yeah, they this is like for legend of Curly's gold and they took the William Shatner mask and made the Halloween mask. Yeah, Jason Voorhees. So yeah, this is like for Legend of Curly's gold and they just use it for Franklin Jell-O. I'm still not clear on what that machine does. The key? The key. What it does and why he wants it. I didn't get any of it. I didn't get why the portal opened.

I didn't know why now he's the master of the universe. It actually seemed to me that the bigger deal was taking that sword and putting it in that special sword slot. The sword slot that had like a weird like alarm on it like like little bling like like Like you can't take the sword out now they locked I want so the thing that always gets me when I looked at Skeletor's castle is You know, I think you know for movie sets, obviously you want it to be big and bold, but I didn't like how many balconies there were without railings.

I felt that would be a very dangerous castle to work in. It was too, everything was too elevated. There's no children in the movie. But still I think like being at the edge of a building, I just think I wouldn't want to be walking there and just, you know, if I'm texting or something, just walk off the side. Yeah. It's a poorly designed castle but he was also in the Skeletor castle which his throne was in front of the portal that allowed him to be the

master of the universe so it seemed like I don't know if he was like like just squatting on that or like what cuz that castle opened up him up yeah like it just seemed like yeah in the castle like that portal opened up him up, yeah, it just seemed like... Yeah, I wonder if that had always been there. In the castle, that portal opened up behind him, but it seemed like that was built into the castle. Oh, yeah, maybe. I don't know. I didn't understand that. Also, when he harnessed the power of the universe, his aim went out the window hard.

He was all powerful, but just couldn't quite zap He-Man with the power of the universe. The power of the universe brings about one of the worst fight scenes I've ever seen, so much so that they do it in the dark. The two leads finally fight in the dark and someone just has a flashlight on them to show they're mediocre at best stunt work. Why not just get two pros in there? Franklin Jell is in a full mask, Dolph Lundgren is a monster-y, huge, bulked up guy.

Just have one good fight. It's in the dark. It is literally in the dark. You have to squint back, I guess, through shadows, this is a pretty bad ass fight. Nothing. I wanted to know more about the team, the He-Man team, because the old guy

Mustachio. Oh, I wish his name was Mustachio So there's the old guy and then there's the woman and then there's the whatever his name is the creature Yeah, Gwildor or something. Gwildor. Gwildor who everyone loves no matter what Gwildor did they're like Yeah, they're laughing at him Yeah, did it again Gwildor. I should have said about that though because when they're like, ha ha ha. Oh, Gryldor. Yeah, they're laughing at him. Yeah, did it again, Gryldor. I actually have a thing about that though, because when they first got, when they first went through the portal and they ended up, I don't know, wherever they were, he was...

Next to the cow? Yes, next to the cow. That little creature had his face stuck in like a pond. And he kind of became a dog? Like they were like, he was like, rrr was like like shook himself up and they're like, whoa And they're laughing at him like oh you almost drowned Well, it's basically like oh your arms don't work enough to even pick yourself up off the ground you would drown face first in a puddle if we weren't able to get you because Apparently your limbs aren't strong enough to remove you from the puddle. That's not funny, that's really sad.

That's really sad. By the way, I mean, just to draw one quick comparison here from my knowledge of He-Man, as a child I haven't really revisited, but He-Man's sidekick was a character named Orko, who was like a wizard, you never saw his face, he wore like a hat, and he had like, and he floated. Didn't He-Man have some sort of animal with him too?

There was like a tiger. Yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What about Shira that the woman that's a side character? I mean, she's like she had her own show this that's like the red Sonya to his Conan. Yeah, which though Which these are unrelated which these two things? Related I thought they were father. I thought even described to even bring up Conan Barbarian In reference to he man would be almost impossible because what would they have I mean, they're so what do they have in common? So so different what about code? I guess what about Conan in space? Oh? Yeah, that works. We'll do Conan in space. We can't call it Conan. Okay, man. He meant the Now the fun they were father daughter.

I don't think they were the I think they were. They were because she had one point was like father. Yeah, right. Yeah, really? Side note. Yeah. Yeah. And by the way, what was the side part of her being a vegetarian vegetarian?

They all were. Oh, I didn't realize it. I think in the future everyone's a vegetarian. I don't say why not set that up? Just like the smallest amount, just so we can get a little bit, like just like, wow, they do things weird here. They didn't seem to be surprised at anything.

They're eating ribs. They're eating ribs. Everybody's eating meat. Yeah. In this movie. Gryldor uses it. Wherever they're from, when they get to Earth, they find find ribs their first mission is to get food

They use a giant grappling hook to steal someone's ribs out of the back seat of their car while they're making out Yeah, and then grill door doesn't know how to eat ribs. So he just drinks the barbecue sauce down I was so worried about that actor because all I could think of was like the gravy. Yeah always being in his mask I'm so worried about that actor, because all I could think of was the gravy, always being in his mask, just sitting in the pocket of his face. For the rest of the shoot. Another costume thing,

the guy who played Beast Man in this, his teeth were so large that he was unable to close his mouth. So when he would just drool, he would just drool down his costume and just weigh him down. Like apparently. The added weight of drool,

he's like, I have three quarts of drool in my boots right now. Well, and then the other guy, the dad, or we think the dad, he also had a lot of sweat in his boots, and he said that every day he would dump out sweat from his boots, because it was the costumes are so confining. He was wearing what looked like

a children's Halloween costume of Spaceman. Yeah. You know what I mean? He was wearing utter nonsense like a children's Halloween costume of Spaceman. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like he was wearing utter nonsense, mustachio. And she was wearing a metal thong. I mean. Did anybody notice that? That was the only thing I was cool with in this movie.

Very practical. Yeah, she, I mean, that I never, also I don't understand why He-Man, and again, if we're going to this idea that... I did think He-Man looked great. All right. So oily. So oily, but I I do think I think he's a beautiful man I looks like Killian Murphy because there's a picture of Killian Murphy and I actually look a lot like him and my dad saw the movie sunshine like him and my dad saw the movie Sunshine. He looked like Killian Murphy.

Yeah. I said dad. Your dad thought you were the actor Killian Murphy? First of all, the lead of like a major motion picture. And had never mentioned it. That he just happened to see in the movies one day. So that's its own story. But he thought that I was the lead of the movie.

By the way, I'm just blowing up a picture of this show. That's a man. I'm now realizing there is some sort of similarity. When I was a brunette, there was it. When I was a brunette, it was possible that I might have been confused with Killian Murphy. By my father. Yeah, by your father. The person who arguably knows you best. Sweetheart, I've just seen the entire movie that you're in. I loved it. That's crazy. What? I know it is crazy. It is crazy. I mean, I know your dad have very interesting theories on movies. I know people make fun of their parents like, oh, my dad calls Matt Damon,

Matt Damian, like those kind of like disconnects. But my dad thought that I was a man, a male actor who was the lead of a movie playing a male character. Wait, did he think you were like having a separate male career that you were like, you couldn't talk about? Why didn't she tell me she was the lead of this movie? He's just like, well, you're, I know you're in movies and TV, like, why couldn't it be you? In some ways I took it as a compliment Because I think he thinks that should be me.

And maybe it is. And you heard me talking about stuff. Maybe this is the project. Oh my God, I love that. This is the project. This project where you're playing a man. But it also goes to show, but it also goes to show your dad might have just like,

my question is, did your dad think that Killian Murphy was a was a woman that entire movie would that make his? Rewatching of it interesting because if he thought it was you he may have a whole different. I thought it was a female character I just didn't understand why they called the main woman in the movie Mike. Oh My gosh unbelievable Be like June he also gets really caught up on like remember when he saw The departed and he was so upset because he felt like all the actors looked exactly the same From face blindness Feels that they should look so different because otherwise he can't follow.

Well the good news with this movie is that he would have no problem because they're so diverse these characters. Oh yeah, that's true. Karg. Karg. I love Kargs. Karg. I wrote Karg is my favorite. Karg me too. Karg. Karg! Exclamation.

Yes. I have a Karg. You spelled it with a C, I spelled it with a K I wrote car get leader question mark like the smallest most diminutive Character of this entire world like and you're their leader. He's a go get them get them Yeah, no, he's like the head of the bounty hunters or whatever in they have like a straight from Star Wars Introduction of the you know when they see when, when they introduced the bounty hunters on the, on the Imperial starship.

It's like frog man, beast man, robot. And they do it here too. Here are the bounty hunters and they're, each and every one of them are ludicrous. Yes. Blade. Frog man's costume was amazing. That was great.

And I was like, why did he get killed off so fast? Everyone else's mask is like restrictive. You can't tell their mouth is moving. Oh, they should have killed beast man instantly. Immediately. They just put ammonia in his face. Where did that ammonia come from? Why was there ammonia at a sound check at a high school grad? Well by the way that that's minutes before they just have a fight in an abandoned box factory like they run out of the school and they're just in just a place with empty boxes. Everyone's getting tossed. I thought for sure that when I saw that the senior ball

was going, the theme was the fantasy, I thought for sure we were gonna do a really cool sequence where these fantastical characters were kind of in the sets and in the, and that just never happened. Yeah, that's a missed opportunity. That's a real misstep. Well, I think it was probably extras casting. They just didn't have anybody.

They had no extras in this movie. She's leaving before the senior dance or whatever. Or graduation. Or graduation. Yeah. And it didn't make any sense, but yet she's like, she'd go to the sound check, and she's like, just let me be here for a second.

Yeah, Courtney Cox is, yeah, go ahead. No, the sound check was a solo sound check. Yeah. At night with no No, the sound check was a solo sound check. Yeah With no one checking no sound just him basically just like pre hooking up his instruments Like I'll leave this here for tomorrow night tomorrow night We'll really get in vibing on the little Japanese synthesizer and by the way by himself like so was he just sound checking for like He's in display keyboards Can you sound check on your own or you need someone else to? You need somebody in the back to be like raising levels.

Yeah, to be okay, a little bit more, give me more in the monitor. And by the way, this is their last date. Like this was like set up as their last date. He's about to drive her to the airport or whatever. And she's like, let me go to the grave site, let's do your sound check and then I'll leave forever. Like that was a real romance.

And then they'll eat some chicken. And then in the middle of that, in the middle of that, she's he's like you know what even though you're about to leave I'm gonna bring this Japanese synthesizer that fell from the sky down to Charlie's see what he thinks it let's don't do that together she's like I'm gonna stay here and say goodbye to the school or whatever so they split apart for a part of this last their last hour on earth yeah also note that she has not packed up her parents house like her plan They split apart for a part of their last hour on Earth. Yeah.

By the way, also note that she has not packed up her parents' house. Like, her plan seems to have been to just leave it. Yeah. To just simply walk away from home. To just Incredible Hulk style, like, duffle bag it out of there. I just was reading one fact as you guys were talking about. The guy who plays Saurad, we were talking about the guy who has the best costume. I think the reason why he was not too much in the film is because he was technically blind when he was in that costume.

He, the prosthetics made him blind. No. Yes, I mean, not in real life, he could see. So he couldn't see. He could not see, so he was blind. So he had to do everything in the movie. He wore contact lenses that were extremely painful and reduced his vision considerably. So during the action sequences, because of the dim lighting,

he could not see at all and had to perform all of his stunts blind. Oh my God. Whenever I see people in movies from this era with those wild contact lenses, I always am like, oh, they are miserable. Cause those were like basically just like one pound pieces of glass

they would just shove into your eye. Hard contact. That's like, yeah, like that's when like Like basically just like one pound pieces of glass they would just shove into your eye hard contact That's like yeah Like that's one like Jim Carrey had like um a marine on set to help him deal with pain for the Grinch Because he had to put these contacts in that were like super painful So it was like a guy that was like talking him through the pain of old Contacts like in order to their cut because like action and be the Grinch. Yeah There is there's so much to kind of just. Can we talk about Kevin for one second?

Sure, of course. Master song. Master song. So Kevin's journey at the end, he must recall and play the notes. Oh, yes. Oh yeah. Can I just play, can I have him say his pitch about this?

This is Kevin's pitch, here we go. Okay. Ba da da da. Ba da da da da. Ba da da da da da. Wait a minute. I've got it, I've got it. This is Kevin figuring out.

That's it! That's it! How did you do that? I don't know. I just, if I hear a tune a couple of times, I can usually remember it. Besides, it had a good hook. I was going to use it in one of my songs. By the way, that's not also a talent. Like, if I hear a song a couple of times, I can remember it. Everybody can do that. So yes, go ahead. Well, so in the beginning, he wants her to show up for his soundtrack. I guess my question is, are we supposed to believe that he

is nervous about performing and is not confident in himself as a musician? And then by the end of the movie, he's able to perform. Oh, I think you're reading way more into this. No, I actually think what it is is that what they need

is something that he happens to be able to do. Like he has a secret like a secret tool that they need. He can remember a song because he's a musician. He's a keyboard player in a band. But at one point, he wasn't in this clip, but at one point he says to the creature, to the creature,

to the little troll man. Gryldor? Gryldor. Gryldor? I don't know. Gwildemore. He says to him. Gryffindor.

Gryffindor. I think it's Gryffindor. He says to Glendale. Glendale Galleria. He says to Glendale. He says to Gwinnis Paltrow, you know, I'm scared to do it. I'm nervous to do it.

Yeah. That's about their first time having sex though. Everybody else thinks that Kevin and Gryldor are totally do it. That would be the sequel that they find love. Yeah. Gryldor, are you kidding? That dude is hot. By the way, also... And good to go. Gryldor's a horny little dude. He can make a car in an instant, he finds funny props and costumes. Oh yeah. He-Man, for a solid 40 minutes of this movie, He-Man is driving around

suburban America in a 1958 Ford Impala. Like a pink Ford Impala. Like a pink Ford Impala. It's crazy. With like a neon light on the back of that. Yes. And there's no seeming need for it. No, they don't travel any distance. It doesn't make them faster.

It doesn't make them do anything. No, they can't chase it, but all at the end, they kind of drive through a portal. Skeletor has fucking spaceships. He's driving down Main Street, Little America, so like small town America in a spaceship. the way one of my favorite scenes in the entire movie Skeletor is on a giant open-air spaceship akin to a parade float yeah that that the good guys are like hiding out on a roof and this and

it's a big sneaker up or move a moment cuz Skeletor just rises up above them but he's a giant it's a giant. It's a giant It's like a plane landing on your head there. Oh, where did you come from? Why are they on the roof? There's been so much air. Oh, yeah, so many people attacking from the air. They're like, where do we go the roof? I think they go to the roof because that's the only way that the spaceship can appear to be flying Because it's the perspective of the people on the roof so it's just being held up by like a forklift or whatever so it looks like by the way that it does raise and lower like a

forklift yeah they just rip off back to the future in this with their hover boards they have like hover disks and people are flying around which goes to one of my theories whenever we do movies like this There's always like a theory of like or for me my theory is that when a bad movie is here It's those flying like anything that's a hoverboard or skateboard whenever there's a scene like that. They're like kids will like this Okay, we'll get them on a get them on a hover thing like but it's like he man Precariously on this like little hover thing was not even He was so stiff.

Just so stiff on this little thing that looked like it was gonna teeter over. Go get off it, just run down the street. Yeah, just run. You're like He-Man. And again, I just wanted to bring up this one thing about He-Man in his costume. Yes, I'm sure he looks great.

But he. Well, he looks a lot like me because he looks like a man. I think he's an attractive guy. I don't think he's gonna do my own horn. You did at one point just exclaim, he's sexy. What? About Dolph Lundgren?

He's not sexy. I will give you, I will give you, he's good looking. He's handsome, his body's amazing. He's not sexy at all. What is his deal? Where is he from? Dolph Lundgren, like I don't know anything about him by the way. He's an MIT grad, so he's a super smart mathematician.

That is the truth. He is from Sweden, and yeah, those are the two facts I know about him, is that he's super smart and- Is he just famous for He-Man? Is that- No, he was the- Rocky IV. He was like the Russian who fought Ivan Dragov, right?

Drago. Drago, I'm sorry. Yeah, so I think that was his big claim to fame, was like Rocky IV. And then he became a kind of B actor in these kind of big action, he was like one of the original Punishers. But yeah, but he's done a bunch of that kind of stuff.

Like Hugh, yeah, so it was Rocky IV, Masters of the Universe, and then I think Red Scorpion was a big movie, and then it's all just been like, it just was a lot of like, Masters of the Universe, and then I think Red Scorpion was a big movie, and then it's all just been like, it just was a lot of like Men of War, Hidden Assassin, Silent Trigger, Blackjack, The Minion, so he's just become that guy. I love those titles, even those titles

are perfectly generic. Oh yeah. The Trigger. Uh oh guys, I just saw this, this is in post-production for Dolph. Kindergarten Cop II. Oh, interesting. Yeah. Oh, he's also in the new Coen Brothers movie, Kindergarten Cop II. Oh, interesting. Yeah.

Oh, he's also in the new Coen Brothers movie, Hail Caesar. So that's interesting. Yeah, good for him. Can we talk about the cop? Oh, yes. Yes, Lubick. Amazing. His incredible performance, like the most tics

I've ever seen an actor do. This is amazing. So much tongue work. This is the, for those of you who don't know, this is the principal from Back to the Future. This is Strickland from Back to the future playing a very similar character in this. Yeah. I mean, yeah, he Where do you think the movie is set? Like where in America because his accent he's a New York cop

Yeah, he's got and he's dressed like a New York in a very long leather trench coat Yeah, and he has a thick Bronx New York accent. Yes. I'm gonna guess it's like Middle America. I'm gonna guess like Ohio Deanna Just naming stage You guys are playing a really boring game of password Oh boy, okay. This is like a, you guys are playing a really boring game of password. Pennsylvania! Illinois!

Oh God. What else? It's every town in the USA. Nebraska! But by the way, his energy and attitude is- Arkansas! That's the South! His energy and attitude is of a real beaten down New York cop. Like, alright, come over here!

I got 10 kids in there! You're coming with me! Like where he should have should have been the cop of I've never dealt with this What's going on like Andy Griffith? It should be just like this never happens here and instead he's like alright You're coming downtown. I mean in the middle. I wrote like I was like who am I who am I rooting for here? Who's the dick is it the cop or the boyfriend because they both come at each other hard. Yeah aggressively hard. Name of a porno I've recently watched. My favorite was when he saw the thing,

the key thing do its thing. And we just had this, the best reaction shot in a movie I've ever seen was just him like, tongue wriggling around in his mouth, then like hand on face like twitching around, like he just did every move possibly, any choice, like every choice he made and they just let it, like he's the longest shot of the movie,

they let it live on him, they're like this sustains itself. Or keep on going. Oh my God, I loved it. He did everything he could do. Everything. You know that like panic if you're shooting something and you're like, no one's calling cut, you're like, I guess I'll keep on going.

He's like, uh, buh buh buh buh buh buh. Yee yee yee yee. Like churning his own tie to spin like, yee yee yee. Aye aye aye aye aye. And he goes like, he's really suspect of everybody until the end of the movie. Can we just hear this in my face? But I think my favorite part, so the day is saved, Skeletor is defeated. Oh, well they go from Earth back to Eternia.

In the Impala. The cop comes with them. Yes. He's now fighting with laser guns too. Yeah. And just picked up a laser gun. Yep. By the way, the town has been kind of destroyed,

or at least the guitar shop. The town has definitely been destroyed. That guitar shop. That guitar shop. Charlie PS, one of my favorite characters in cinema. Yeah, I love like the wacky buddy Charlie Who's like wearing every piece of clothing you could possibly wear like leather hats? He's wearing all the accessories Like he looks like Paul Schaefer from the early 80s like that kind of like I'm wearing everything I'm a musician man

It's cool and his shop oddly has like police scanners and then there's a lot of keyboards Yeah, my keyboards like he literally says anything Why does he have a police scanner there? Why does he have a shotgun behind the front? They're like you got a shotgun right? Charlie was like yeah It's small town America everybody's robbing the music store Lubick says it so like he's like you know if someone comes in and causes trouble you got a gun Lubeck says it so like he's like, you know, if someone comes in and causes trouble you got a gun

And he seemed to be of the age of the teenagers like he didn't seem moving that yeah, no Charlie Charlie He didn't seem like it but it was established that he owned that place Charlie's Let's take a listen to this so the end of the movie like you know, he can afford neon which is no joke We kind of forget about Lubick for a second and this is what happens They seem on the throne now dressed in a tourney of garb and here we go Well Lubick look at you They're really gonna stay here, huh? Are you kidding? What am I gonna go back there for and look what I got here I got I got a castle. I got a view. I got clean air. I got a beautiful woman

By the way Got a castle. I got a view. I got clean air. I got a beautiful woman He gets the castle like that's the other thing to like who's giving everything this guy did very little Basically brawn from Grant Game of Thrones He's like he's like an assassin who's been given like a you're gonna marry that girl. You're gonna get that castle like Who knows you that guy? I don't have faith in that relationship. He's like I got a girlfriend like when I got a woman In this five minutes of after the fight you gotta go. Why would I go back there? It's uh, it's small-town America. Come on I got a castle. I got a view. I got a view the view seemingly from that castle was terrible Yeah, it was a gross like dead landscape fresh air

Something might have been wrong with that guy because there's another scene earlier where he's walking with the rest of his police Yeah, he's trying to convince them that that something crazy is happening Right and there but but I don't understand why he never enlists them, why he doesn't enlist them earlier. They don't. Oh, because I think he's a lone wolf. I think he's like a Serpico. I think he's just, well, he doesn't know what's going on. First of all, he doesn't know what's going on. There's just, oh, there's been the fire at the school. He's investigating an arson, you know, what they think. And the custodian has also been attacked. Oh, the kids are like, what happened? He goes. He goes I he's like I can never tell you

That's not a good attack you should be like, yeah, no people should know monsters There are monsters and then the cop just went to to what's his face Kevin's house and then they just started kind of having Snacks. Oh, yeah, that's Julia's house and I found it very odd that she called her own home Yeah, her own home which full of Burger King cups oddly placed Burger King cups. That is true Why does she call her house because her parents are straight-up dead? And why did he pretend she wasn't alive? To what end? Thought that like maybe she killed Janitor and lit the place on fire?

Oh right. Like I mean, but like if that's his thought. And he was gonna help her escape? Yeah. He was like, I don't know why you did it babe, but I know it was right. So I'll meet you, the Janitor's dead. He's a good boyfriend. He's covering for her.

Like that's like the beginning of Fargo or something. Like he's just covering. That's so true. Like he has no reason to lie about her being alive, which is his main concern. Yeah. He must, he would be like, hooray, you're alive. Let's tell the cops. But why does Lubick is so suspicious of Kevin immediately as if Kevin is like,

like the worst kid in the world. And there it just, I mean, really we're talking about an 18 year old kid like a young Kid like a nada not an arsonist who's destroyed this I mean also He's also run into the crime scene to try to figure out what's going on like had he done something I doubt he would be there well a lot of times people who commit crime. I know what you're right To see what they've done. Yeah, I've seen seven. That's true the I just want to talk about what alert for seven I do want to talk about this the core concept of this movie in general Is that they're after a device that is a key like essentially a keyboard a circular keyboard that opens portals

That's that's like the whole movie is the confusion of that as a musical instrument versus a powerful tool like that The thing how is this whole He-Man movie? Again, we're talking so little about He-Man. How is this whole He-Man movie about the key, about this keyboard thing? And when the little troll uses it, he types on it as if like your mind, like the worst extra work in the world. Like, I'm typing. Like quick, not even looking like blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah Seems to be the least of things Grill door. Yeah, exactly grill door invented it but cannot seem to use it and doesn't remember the tunes

But it seems like it's like being a keyboard a piano rather and being like, but I don't know what it does He basically says the universe is all music That's how they and so at the end of the movie to get the wormhole to open they just kind of hook up a keyboard And that guy just plays the tune which grill door should know because he fucking created it Yeah, and and then the thing opens because he would have had to program it. Yes, like okay, so this sequence Opens that kind of a wormhole and I guess the thought being that well if I don't have those specific 90 keys I can't program it. I can know like who knows and the way, Skeletor has one of these keys as well. Yeah, what?

That's what I was thinking. That was crazy! So then why is he after that other key? This planet is rotten with keys. Well, yeah, when he came into Earth with the keys, he was like, he's got it? He's got one too, so why don't they all just jam out? I mean, like, why don't they just,

they might as well just form a band where they're playing these nonsense things. It's garbage Skeletor at one point goes if I don't have everything yeah, I have nothing yes So is it just that he just wants such an existential beautiful beautiful line I mean there's by the way the a lot of poetry in this movie. They also the live let or sorry live the journey because every destination is the door to another adventure. I thought that that theme, well, here's my pitch for a better ending to this movie.

Because I did actually like the idea of we don't say goodbye, we say good journey. So what I thought was going to happen, I did like that idea. And I did cry when she's being a little nervous. There was some pretty intense day. And Paul did too. When did you cry? I cried a little bit.

When Lubick got his cast on. Yeah, I was like, finally. Finally you've got a girlfriend. When did you cry? She saw her parents at the kitchen table. Oh, oh, oh, okay. I'll take that. That was emotional.

It was emotional, but I actually thought it was. You were crying through the credits. You really got it. I cried hysterically through the credits. But what I wish had happened, I think would have made it a better movie is if she came home waking up in that, you know, in her nightgown and came

downstairs and they weren't there. They were dead, still dead. And but what she would have come to is that she doesn't have a chance to say goodbye. I mean, I might start crying, but but what she's now able to say to that is good journey. Because she knows that in a bigger sense, she will get to see them again on this journey.

That would have been, to me, that's a beautiful idea. Would you rather have that than her flying, hurtling through space and time and grabbing them out of an airplane. Well, no, I thought that was going to happen. I thought we were headed there and that's why they were on the plane. But in place of that, I think also there's an opportunity for an ending where they're not there. And she because she's really struggling with her grief during this movie and seeing that mirage of her mom. I mean, I'm very scared of mirages in general. I am!

When I saw that, I was like. That's the full quote. I'm very scared of mirages, in general, period. When I saw that, I was like, don't go over there, don't go over there. And I realized like, oh fuck, I'm scared of mirages. But. Oh, so this movie made you realize, that's so fucking creepy to me.

This was an epiphany for you. And this movie caused a real realization for you of I am afraid of scared of mirages. Whenever I see it in movies and films and television. How much are you seeing mirages in? Not often. Desert movies really get you. How do you know about Mirage P. Henson?

What? I will not go into the Mirage in Vegas. It's terrifying. Oh, of course not. Well, there's nothing inside there. It's all an illusion. But I do think there would have been a better ending to the movie because that actually, as an idea, we don't say goodbye, we say good journey, was interesting to me.

Sure. And, but wasn't because then at the end when her parents were there it was just like, okay, I guess Well, we're good to be with them Well, that was the thing is like they're saying goodbye on the other planet. What's it called? He man's planet, whatever they're saying goodbye grill door is about to send them through the portal and they're like, okay good journey Good journey. Everybody's all upset Everybody's waving good journey. Good journey. Okay, and then just all upset. Everybody's waving, good journey, good journey, okay. And then just as they're about to go through the portal,

Courtney Cox is like, oh, wait a minute, Gryldor, can you? And then zap, they get zapped through. So like, I'm assuming she was gonna say, will you send me back to before my parents die? But like, it was almost an afterthought on her part, which I thought was weird. And then her wish is granted in a weird way. Well, because Gryldor knows what's up.

Because Gryldor's dialed in to what her journey is. But see, this is the weird thing about time travel. Time travel as a concept is not really introduced. Until that moment. Until that moment. Is it? Yes, where Gryldor says, I thought they were going laterally. Oh, laterally.

Oh, they're're traveling in time. No, and then Gryldor at the end says, I can send you any place in space and time. By the way, that was a great Gryldor. That was a great Gryldor. I didn't even know I was going to do it. What are you, Gryldor? I didn't even know I had it in me.

Remake, Jason, let's do Gryldor. Call me owners of the franchise masters of the universe. By the way, there was a sequel written that was never shot. Oh, really? Yeah, this movie also shut down three days before it was supposed to end production. So that's why maybe some of the plot holes are not all tied together. But yet they were able to have Jimi Hendrix.

They played Jimi Hendrix in this movie. What? Really? What do you mean? In Charlie's Music Store, Hendrix is playing. Whoa. That's right. And they have the song, Livin' in a Box. I'm a livin' in a box.

I'm a livin' in a cardboard box. I'm a livin' in a box. Remember that song? Terrible, terrible. No. What is that song? I don't know what's happening right now. Oh, you guys are all too young. It's like a terrible-

There's a song called, I'm living in a box? I'm livin' in a box. A cardboard box It's like a terrible called. I'm living in a living in a box It's a terrible song it was like the equivalent of like you remember walk the dinosaur Yeah, it was not was and I feel like it was like a that it was like a that kind of a song, but maybe Ten years earlier. What is the song about a living in a box living in a cardboard box? Maybe it's about a homeless person I don't know gross people For planes exactly oh my gosh that song was playing and I was like oh my god remember this song But that made me think like they must have spent money because that's not was a hit They must have spent money buying well, you know

There's actually a great documentary about all these films that Brett Ratner produced I just it's called like, it basically it's Masters of the Universe, it's Superman 4 The Quest for Peace, Golden Globus, whatever these guys are. They just made these insane movies and it was just like these, it's a great documentary, I think it's coming out in a week now on like digital, but it's like the history of this studio that was just like, fuck it well there's like they just everything cuz this is a movie written by some is like yeah we got that name all right it has nothing to do with it it's like just white guys in a room going yeah yeah and kids and the kids

like that they're kids in here and he man and forget it all like there's nothing to tie the kids who love the comic and this happens all the time like Mario Brothers or Super Mario it's like oh yeah let's not get him out of there put him in the world it's like it makes yeah, let's not take it. Get him out of there. Put him in the world. It makes no sense. I want to just play just for this two clips that I love. This is just Dolph and the chemistry that he has with Courtney Cox. This is uh, and if you kind of catch the phonetical, the phonetic English that's going on.

Dolph Lundgren appears to exist separate from everybody else in the movie. Everybody else seems to have relationships with each other. Kevin and Courtney Cox, the mustachio and his daughter. Everybody's teamed up. Dolph Lundgren just is like floating in the ether almost. Here's Dolphin in his English. It's alright, it's alright. Don't be afraid. I won't hurt you. Now what are you running from? That's all. I'm running from these monsters. Courtney Cox is adorable in this movie. She's gotta do a lot. By the way, that I think is a tough role to pull off and I'm sure it's like one of her Earliest roles to the she's got to go from like oh, yeah, like she's got a she's got death in the family

She's running from aliens. She's fighting. She's you know like she's got a really I loved her I thought I was very on board for Courtney Cox and the kid who plays Kevin. I thought that he was great I thought it was really interesting because they were basically yeah those kids that were basically in an 80s teen movie Yeah, and everybody else is in some fuck. That's I'm saying your nonsense Well, that's like the kind of the fun world of it It's like we got this teen movie, and we'll just throw in this other thing It's it's kind of like this weird and mashup well obviously we had opinions about this movie There are other people out there that had a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions. Second opinions from top to bottom crazy movies of fun.

This is like, we gotta take the one from the lips of Amazons. We gotta pull it out. Second opinions for everyone. We gotta take the Amazons. I feel like blood is gonna come out of my ears and nose. There's just so much going on. It's like a cacophony of nonsense. I will say when I scour Amazon for these, I second opinions, it's easy to pull some

out. This was hard. There were like 500 five-star reviews for this movie. Oh wow. Yeah. A lot of love for Masters. But here's what we're calling it now, Masters. Yeah, for Masters.

A lot of love for Masters. A lot of love for Masters. Is that just what we're doing? We're gonna be okay. Yeah from a lot of love for master a lot of love for me Is that just what we're doing? We're gonna be okay with masters a lot of love for masters Oh, what you guys do in the show this week masters? This is from Marissa and it is the title of it is dot dot dot awesome gift from my mom And here it goes awesome gift from my mom. She loves this movie. I'm glad it's available on DVD. 5 stars. She loves this movie? Mom loves it.

Awesome gift from my mom. So that's if everyone wants to give their mom a gift that keeps on giving. Okay, here we go. This is Okay, this is by This is by Plebes. Okay, this is by Pleebs. I always thought that little dwarf snagged the bucket of chicken. I know five stars should be reserved for the unblemished, and I'm aware that they stole embarrassingly from Star Wars, and that there's a villain sporting a white shawl, not to mention all the big dog critics who snubbed their noses, but I think this film is one of the

best superhero? question mark, fantasy, question mark, movies out there. And when Evil Lin wanted to break the promise in Skeletor, Wooden Letter, genius, pure genius. Five stars. This is like almost, that is unedited, just train of thought. Oh, and just to make sure, because I did want to mention it earlier, Skeletor's sidekick is a woman named

not Evelyn, not Evil-in, Evil-in. Evil-in. I don't know why that article or that interview that review starts off with, I always thought the little dwarf snagged a bucket of... Yeah, yeah. He obviously does. That was like a point of contention. Finally this release settles it. the attack in the movie. It's basically like did grito shoot first. Yeah

Okay, this is from em Woodfill Eileen Woodfill written in 1999. I think this is the best movie. I've seen in science fiction I mean this movie is exciting I don't get the part that the bad guys needed the key if they already had the key. That part doesn't make sense to me, but she wrote, that part doesn't make sense to me. My favorite part is when Courtney Cox as Julie,

by the way, of course as Julie, like yeah, that's the only character she plays. My favorite part is when Courtney Cox as Julie gets hit by Skeletor poison. One more part where Skeletor and He-Man had their battle at the end. That's the review. So her two favorite parts is when

Courtney Cox's Julie gets hit by Skeletor poison and one more part where Skeletor and He-Man had their battle. Five stars. The only way that would make sense is if at the very end that person was like, I am five years old. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? like, I am five years old. Yeah. You know what I mean? If an adult wrote that, shame.

I know. Shame on you. This is a movie to me. I know I've talked about these types of movies before where I would just, as a child, you'd watch a movie that was on TV because you want to watch a movie. Yeah, on TV.

You want to watch a movie on TV. So I would find myself watching a movie like this, and it would be great because it was just simply a movie. Something to watch a movie on TV so I would find myself watching a movie like this and it would be great because it was just simply A movie It was simply a movie Therefore it was great I get that In regards to something to watch it really was It was great to watch something

There's a lot of things that fall into that category for me that are like movies that in my mind I still think are awesome Because they were on on like a Sunday afternoon on channel 56. And I was like, fuck yeah. I remember seeing mixed nuts with Steve Martin. It still remains one of my favorite movies because I saw it as a child and was one of the only VHS tapes we had. And so I watched it over and over and over again,

because I was just so excited that it was a movie that I could see. Yeah. I remember the, the remember the first kid in our neighbor, in my town, I feel like, but no, not in my area, to get a VCR only had two tapes and they were Grease, great. Everybody had Grease and VHS. How is that? I think Grease, I think VHS and Grease were the same time.

They are same things? VHS was created for Grease. VHS came about, exactly. A huge step in technology was created. Travolta was like, hey, you know I got an idea. What if we... No, I think they just came to market at the same time, and so Grease profited from that. The other one though was the Burt Reynolds movie Hooper.

Oh yeah. What's that? Where he jumped... it's a car jumping movie. It's like all he does is jump cars off of bridges. It's nonsense. It's a stunt man written and directed movie. It's awesome. I think it's awesome, but it might be terrible.

I know. The movie I watched as a kid all the time was not Brewster's Millions, the Toy. The Toy, yeah. The Toy was one I watched all the time. That's a very weird movie. Yeah. I also watched Grease Grease 2, always on VHS,

Mixed Nuts, and Regarding Henry. Oh. Oh, wow. Which we just happened to have on VHS. JJ Abrams's first script? Yeah. I was Turtles 2. Was it? Turtlesuts, and Regarding Henry. Oh, wow. Interesting. Which we just happened to have on VHS. JJ Abrams' first script? Yeah. I was Turtles 2.

It was it? Turtles 2, that was yours. Yeah. Really? Like, I can't tell you how many times I've seen that movie. Secrets of the Years? Yeah, that's how this connection has happened. Oh, that's right.

I can quote the impact sounds of the fight scenes. What? Wow. I know it so well. I would love it if, if, just to like be watching it with you and for you to be not only reciting all the dialogue word for word, but then being like, pshh, pshh.

No, I sat down and watched it with my boyfriend and he's like, shut up. Because I kind of want him to know that I know all these sounds, but at the same time, it's the most irritating thing. I, I, I used to record, I used to record movies on Cassette tape and then listen to him in a headset so I would memorize movies in there

I know Beverly Hills cop I can pretty much do really I should do In which you get you two and a couple of more people and you have to, whoever, it's a competition show. Who can go the longest perfectly reciting dialogue from a movie? I'd like to do Anna Green Gables. Really? Really?

Yes, Anna Green Gables and of course, with Megan Follows. Anna Green Gables and Anna Van Lee, I could do the entire film. Really? Oh, didn't Andrew just die? Oh, no. Don't upset you. The actor who plays Gilbert Clive.

Oh, Gilbert. Sorry. Yeah, sorry. Yeah, that's a good response. I just want to say that. My apologies. My condolences. Just, I did it.

I did do a little research. That documentary I was talking about is called Electric Boogaloo the wild untold story of canon films And they are behind movies like death wish American ninja Delta Force over-the-top Masters of the universe Superman for like and a movie called the happy hooker they basically not electric boogaloo But not break into electric boogaloo. Maybe it is, I'm just looking really quickly here. So that's what I got there. Well, that sounds awesome. Well, it has been amazing to get us all together

to talk about this film. And before we get to plugs, I just wanna play Frank Langella just to give us a little taste of his power and we'll wrap it up. Because he is great. He honest to God, great in this movie. And I feel like, but I also feel like he was like, oh, they don't know what they're doing.

So I'll just do four monologues and they'll all be pretty good. Like they're fun. And engaging. Like I did find myself watching Skeletor and- For a man behind a mask, like a full mask, you're not seeing eyes or anything. No, you're seeing eyes.

I mean- But like very small. Yeah. You're not seeing it. There's very hard to- There's no mouth movement. There's no nothing. It, very small. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're not seeing it. There's very hard to a movement. There's no nothing. It is mask work.

Yeah, yeah. It is. He's doing some improv. Fine mask work. Here we go. But what consequence are you now? This planet, these people, they are nothing to me. The universe is power.

Pure, unstoppable power! And I am that force! I am that power! Kneel before your master! I... I love movies. You are no longer my equal! I am more than man! More than life, I am God. I love when you have a good actor in a movie like this

and he's like, fuck it, I like the shit out of this. Rich, can I get one more take? I just wanna pause more between those final words. All right, so that brings us to the end of the episode. Somebody did write a detailed description of what the movie is, but it makes no sense. Okay, so- Oh, I love it. Listening to movies on tape. Oh, yeah.

Oh, my God. Like while you're mowing the lawn. Running scared in Beverly Hills Cop. Books on tape and just like putting movies on tape and listening to them. Do you just picture, do you imagine what, like do you remember the scenes and like- Yeah, I remember that. Like while you're mowing the lawn. Running scared and Beverly Hills cop. And just like putting movies on tape and listening to them. Yeah. Do you just picture, do you imagine what,

like do you remember the scenes and like. Yeah, I guess like to me it was just sort of like, oh how could I watch this movie like on the school bus. And I just would put my little recorder in front of my TV and just record them and you get it. You know, it was like just dialogue. I'm amazed. I think that's a great idea.

I am. So great. And just being on the bus. And I remember being embarrassed because of this girl that was sitting next to me I'm like, what are you listening to? And she's like pink Floyd and she's like, what are you listening to? I'm like running scared a movie with Billy Crystal Gregory Paul shears listening to a movie on his walk, man That was also in a period of my life where the only move music I listen to were movie soundtracks Yeah, so I had only movie soundtracks

I was like listening to like Tom was it Tom Hanks and Dan Akroy doing the rap from the dragnet movie Oh my terrible terrible songs and cuz all like, you know man-sized love from a band called climax I know all this like I know so many movies soundtracks like yeah It's amazing back to the future soundtrack on all the time Well, what what do you have to plug we'd like to plug anything? I don't know if I have anything to plug you can follow you on Twitter follow me on Twitter Yeah, I think at Tatiana Maslany. Yeah, that's that's all I got Well, you can I'm on Twitter at miss MS June Diane and Yeah, that's all I got. I got nothing. What do you want to plug?

Well, I'm on Twitter at MsMSJuneDiane, and you can still check out Grace and Frankie, which is streaming on Netflix. Jason? I'm in a movie called Sleeping with Other People that's out right now, depending on where you live, and depending on when this episode comes out, please go see that. Jason Sudeikis, Ali Brie, me, and we know her as Allison Brie. Allison Brie My my special with Rob People crash test just came out on iTunes for 399 with a bunch of people you love Aziz, Rob Cordray, Aubrey Plaza, and Jason and I and June are all in the league this season, which is airing right now on FXX and we'll get it out. We'll put it out there. Tatiana's gonna be on the, on the, this season of the league too. Yeah, great. Yeah. Or from Black, League, Crossover.

Crossover. Let's do it. I'm doing a major Frank Langella monologue. Lots of pausing. If you have an issue with this episode, you want to give us a correction and omission, you can do that at theearwolf.com message boards. So follow us on Twitter at HDTGM. And a big thank you to Nate Kiley doing our research, Averill Halley pulling all of our clips, our engineer Ryan, everybody here at Earwulf, July Diaz, oh the whole crew, everybody we love

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