How Did This Get Made? - Matinee Monday: Bloodshot w/ Adam Scott

Episode Date: February 20, 2023

Adam Scott (HDTGM's resident Vin Diesel expert) joins Paul, June, and Jason to discuss the 2020 Vin Diesel action flick Bloodshot. They talk about nanites, the flour truck, villains who want to join a theatre troupe, Vin being unfazed by his own death, and much more. (Originally released 04/23/2020)For more Matinee Monday content, visit Paul's YouTube page: https://www.youtube.com/c/PaulScheerGo to www.hdtgm.com for tour dates, merch, and more.Follow Paul on Letterboxd: https://letterboxd.com/paulscheer/HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: https://discord.gg/paulscheerCheck out Paul and Rob Huebel live on Twitch (https://www.twitch.tv/friendzone) every Thursday 8-10pm ESTSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael here: listen.earwolf.com/deepdiveSubscribe to Unspooled with Paul Scheer and Amy Nicholson here: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledCheck out The Jane Club over at www.janeclub.comCheck out new HDTGM merch over at https://www.teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmWhere to find Jason, June & Paul:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on Twitter

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Perhaps we'll find the answer to the question, how did this get made? Hello people of Earth, and welcome to our very first quarantine edition of How Did This Get Made? I am so happy to be here to talk to you about a movie that recently came out on home video. That's right, this is one of the first quarantine releases. It's a Vin Diesel 2020 film about a soldier who is killed,

wakes up and is more, I don't know, machine than man, but not really machine. Anyway, we'll get into it all, but we'll break it down with my two co-hosts. Please welcome Mr. Jason Manzuchus. How are you, Jason? Oh, Paul. Paul, you made me spend $20 on this movie.

$20. Not only am I trapped in my home, literally trapped in my home, you made me feel even more of a prisoner by forcing me to watch this movie. This was a nuts endeavor, and I'm thrilled to be sitting in my closet at home, getting ready to talk to you guys about it.

You just got indoctrinated into VHBO, Vin Boombox Office. That's it, we pay the top prices to see Vin Diesel doing the good work. Happily, I will pay top dollar to watch. You know what, I might retroactively go back and buy both triple X movies, just to like have them all. I mean, you have to complete a collection,

and there's one person who loves Vin Diesel. More than any of us, please look at my other co-hosts who watch this movie separately from me, Miss June Diane Rayfield, how are you, June? I'm okay, how are you, Paul? Very good, how's quarantine been treating you, June? Well, you know, I think my, as Casey said, my corona persona is pretty positive,

and trying to just experience like the gifts of not having to worry about my personal health right now or anyone I know. So my corona persona is just like taking it moment to moment, but I feel very grateful. Will you be doing this episode as yourself or as your corona persona? My corona mask is on right now.

Oh, wow. Yes. Okay. And June, I know you like a little Vin Diesel, so how does this rate for you on the Vin Diesel? So this is interesting. So I, another thing that's happening with my corona persona is I do need what I'm realizing

is I need the comforts of, I need comforts. So I'm not willing to really push myself in any direction. I'm not willing to think that hard. I'm not willing to be stretched right now. I just want to look very tight. No, I will not go further than my knee at this point. I don't, I want, I start drinking at like five. I want to be cozy and warm things.

I want to look at beautiful people. I just want to... And this is, you want to look at beautiful people and that's leading us towards Vin Diesel? Is that what's happening? You know, I, I, I've said it before. I mean, we're back on, we're back on our bullshit here, but I, I don't mind him at all.

And there's a comfort. So anyway, all of this is to say, I was worried about watching this movie tonight because again, I'm going back to basics with my entertainment. I want, I want things that I can count on during these times. And I was worried that I was going to be pulled in a direction I didn't want to be in and just watching something that was so painful,

like so many of these movies have been. I, it was like, it was like coming back home. It's the longest answer. This is the most, strangely, the most positive June has ever been about, I believe, any movie we've ever done. There's something about his draw and his slow, slow pace and his lumbering.

Wait, draw and slow, slow pace and lumbering are all the same thing. And also not associated with positive traits often. Like, like, like, oh, I've fallen in love with the greatest guy. He's very lumbering and very slow paced and he has the most languid draw. I mean, it really speaks a lot about me. You know what, we couldn't do this show properly

without our resident Vin Diesel expert. He has joined us for all of the Fast and Furious's and all of our Vin Diesel excursions. Since Fast Nine has been pushed another year, we couldn't wait, we couldn't wait for that. So we needed to bring back Mr. Adam Scott. Adam, how are you? Guys, guys, Paul, I'm gonna join with Jason in just,

let's call it an easy protest of the $20 price of admission for this one. Listen, Adam, okay, but Paul, I know you spoke about this on a mini episode, but we just spent $50 on Ice Age 1, 2, 3, on a bundle package of Ice Age movies. That's five for 50. I don't mind that. We spent $50.

We spent $40 on this movie because June watched it on her account and I watched it on my account. So that's $40 out of this household going right to Bloodshot. I mean, like, I think you just doubled the box office of Bloodshot. Absolutely.

You guys don't share an account, an Apple account? No. No. I don't know why we do. Paul and I keep most of our... You keep all that stuff separate. We keep our finances separate. Keep all that stuff separate, but you share a Pornhub account.

Is that right? Yeah. Absolutely. Well, that's expensive. Yeah, that's an expensive purchase. I also share that with Paul and June. And we're never on at the same time. It's a Pornhub. It's so prohibitively expensive. You should get a group of like-minded friends together

and go in if you share the same searches. Absolutely. All the same fetishes. I mean, didn't they give out free Pornhub to people in Italy during coronavirus? They gave it here, too. They did it here, like, you know, a couple of weeks later when it got really bad here, they did the same thing. I think it was a limited time.

Well, I think just to kind of bring us back to where we were when Triple X... Well, when the return of Xander Cage came out, I think we left kind of enjoying that experience. It felt a little bit like Fast and Furious. And this is definitely Vin Diesel jumping into the superhero market and a character from Valiant Comics that, if you listen to Vin Diesel,

is the most popular comic book character in the world. That I have never heard of. Is that his take? His take is, this is the character that people have been begging to see. And he says it's the number one character with ever. Wait, this is a character? This person? Yeah, see, that's... I looked it up. I had no idea.

I Googled it and I found that it was based on a 13-year-old's wet dream who didn't quite understand how any of the mechanics of anything work. See, I had heard that as well. So... It seems to me like he was like, I want to be Iron Man, I want to be Wolverine.

They're not letting me in on the Marvel universe to do more than one character. Make me... Like, let's find that. And they dug through and they found this character from... And he said that he's starting the VCU, the Valiant Comics universe, because this is a Valiant comic... Oh, there's a lot of hashtags of VCU

in the Vin Diesel tweets about this. Or Instagram posts. Fantastic. We're starting the VCU. This is supposed to be not only launching multiple movies of this character, but then also other characters. There's like little inside references. This is a whole... This is his Iron Man.

And he is launching... Oh, what I was... So many ways. Absolutely. And what I was trying to figure out was... Well, and we'll get into it, because when they go in and introduce him to the team, quote-unquote, you know? Yeah.

All of whom's names I forget, except for KT. But when he introduced... When we see... When we meet the team... The thing that upsets me about KT is I feel like they have one woman and they're like, we're not even gonna gender her with a woman's name because we're so upset that she's here. Like, we're gonna give her letters.

But also, why make such a big deal over those letters? Right. Like... Oh, it's absurd. But also, why make such a big deal about that team? Because the best as I can tell, they are only there as actors to incentivize him to repeat the same cycle over and over and over again.

They're not a team that's... Yeah, 13 players. They're not a team that seems to be going out and doing missions of their own. They're only there to play a part. Right? I mean, they all end up being bad guys, like antagonists,

but also uninteresting antagonists. Yeah, it's a tricky movie because essentially, what we find out, and you see this in the trailer of the film, Vin Diesel is being manipulated to kill people that he thinks has killed his wife. But we find out in the movie, he's just killing a technology company's competition.

So it's like Google created this man to like take down Ask Jeeves. Like, I mean, that's like, if you were to like... Yeah, I mean, I thought... But it's his former partners, right? Yeah. No, I think it is his former partners, but there was just so many of them.

But the thing about that team is I thought, because I had the same thought, Jason, like, why are they here? And then I thought, oh, maybe they were... Or this could have happened, and I just wasn't paying attention, but were they early prototypes? Like, he was trying to get all of them

to be like Vin Diesel's character, and then they were just sort of demoted to actors? Well, I think that, like, for sure, I think they are, you know, enhanced, right? Because, you know, when Guy Pearce is giving him... Guy Pearce is the kind of main science guy who has brought, you know, the cold open of the movie is Vin Diesel is some sort of either a Marine,

or, you know, he's on a mission in the military, you know, and he goes it alone. They're like, wait for backup, and he's like, fuck it, and he kicks the door down. And in typical Vin Diesel fashion, he kills every single person instantly, single shots everybody. He's just like, he's already a super hero, right?

That's the thing. He is not... He doesn't have any growth, like, the only thing that he gets is that he can get shot multiple times. The addition is he can just now get shot. I mean, that's... They give him basically a healing factor. But the thing that's so interesting about it is, like,

let's say, let's comp him against Steve Rogers, right? So Steve Rogers, too weak to join the military, so he goes through the super soldier program and becomes Captain America, right? There's a... He has to go from somewhere to somewhere. Right. Vin Diesel is...

You're right. There is essentially no change whatsoever in his invincibility. Yes. He basically starts the movie as Superman and becomes immortal. Well, but here's the thing. Let's even, like, walk back to the beginning of this movie, because, first of all, one of the benefits of spending $20 on this purchase, not even a rental, it's a purchase.

Now it's in my library. $40 in total. $40 for our household. Yes. Our household spent money on this. Plus, you don't share an Apple account, which is flummoxed. We should look into that. I don't know why that is.

I don't want policy in all of my purchases. Thank you. A lot of bravo. A lot of bravo. Yeah. There's certain things I need to do on there that... And do your children have their own accounts as well that they're all buying on?

Like, you each had to pay $50 for all of the ice ages. I don't think you guys know how this works. June is so upset because June does not have a Disney plus icon. We have a Disney plus account, and June does not have an icon in our Disney plus account, because we feel that June is not a viewer of Disney plus as much as me and the two kids are. Oh, so she hasn't earned an icon. No.

She hasn't earned an icon. I didn't know you were supposed to make an icon. Oh, yeah. You can have your own icon. You can choose whatever character you want. I'm going to make June my icon. I appreciate that. So when I'm at my house watching Disney plus, June, it'll be with you.

And I will be watching it together. Thank you. I have a quick question before you go to the beginning. Did you guys all know that this turn was coming, this twist in the story? I did not. Okay. Neither did I. I did because I saw the trailer.

So that's what I was going to say. It's in the trailer. The trailer, like, aggressively lays out the premise of the movie. And the premise of the movie, it really does because it's not a very layered film. So by revealing that, that's the only twist that you got. Like there's not more. But yeah. So that was a bummer.

I was going to say the one benefit of buying it was, within the first 30 seconds, I was able to pause it just to see how long the movie was. I was like, oh, hour 48. Not bad. Like, I can get through this. Like, I felt like it would have been, I was expecting it to be about two hours and 13 minutes. And it was very pleasantly surprising.

But so he's, can I ask you a question? Do you think now maybe I'm, oh, I might be about to be revealing that I'm very naive. Is the opening battle scene real or is it a fake memory as well? It's fake. I think it's fake. So is there no real scene in the movie, everything until he wakes up, right? That's what I mean. There's no, we don't see him in the real world ever, right?

I don't think so until he says that's a simulation when she goes into it. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I mean, which I guess makes the assassination of his life and the murdering of him more palatable because I was like, this is insane. But now that I know it's a simulation, I give it a little bit more, I'm like, okay, that's fine.

That was, that seems like it was written by somebody writing a video game. Like dancing to a psycho killer. You know this guy. Yeah. By the way. The funny thing is I was writing down every single one, like the montage in Italy, getting gelato and the dancing bad guy, like all that stuff. I just thought I was watching a dumb Vin Diesel movie.

So when it took the turn, I thought that was exciting because then it's like. Very much so. Oh, so this is not a dumb Vin Diesel movie, but they net, I mean, we'll talk about it later, but once it. But are we giving it, but are we giving it too much credit? Like do that? Because I think we're putting the lens on like, yeah, like I think we're putting the lens on going like, oh, they're so smart, making it so dumb.

But I think like that relationship that he shows with his, his wife, which feels like a Zales commercial. Like it's just like. They never kiss. They never kiss, they just passionately hug. Oh, absolutely. There were some strange moves in this movie where I mean that I appreciated. Like I was surprised during their like lovemaking scene that she was wearing full coverage undies.

Full coverage undies. Full coverage. And is only on holding him from behind. It was like. Very hot. It was very covered on her part, which is just like, that's not what you see in a Vin Diesel movie. Well, except I think this is like, is this, I think this is PG.

If not, is it even PG 13? I think it is is PG 13 because the violence, I think is pretty intense when is when that bone is blown out. They say fuck once, I think. Yeah. Okay. So yeah, PG 13. Oddly, he says fucking the romantic scene.

So chased. It's so chased. But yeah, yeah, their whole thing, their their meeting is even. So here's the thing. So wrap your head around this. So when the when Guy Pierce and his people are creating the template that he plays back in his head to him to play out that he loves his wife so that when she dies, he's incentivized to avenge her murder, blah, blah, blah, they created a PG 13 narrative for him to watch.

Yes. Well, yeah, that is bizarre. Yes. And that's part of why I was like, oh, this is actually really smart or at least at first I was because they even comment like, you had the bad guy dancing in the walk-in freezer like how cliche can you get? So they're kind of calling the movie on its own cliches and they let that cliche diversion go on for like half an hour.

So I really thought I was watching a dumb, cliched, Vin Diesel action movie. But then after the turn, they never quite turn it into something else. I mean, it's not quite as as overtly dumb, but it also doesn't. I mean, Adam, they don't change really, and I mean, they literally they literally hit a flower truck in one of the fight scenes to make it look like this snowy seems like this movie is. Why? That was ridiculous.

Why? The flower and the flares, there were so many scenes that relied on flares in this movie as well. Yes. It's like, what are we doing? It's like, but you're right. Like you want it to look glossy and glitzy and then turn into something that feels real and gripping.

Yes. And this is, and you know, I feel like that's a cool movie. Like it's like all of a sudden it feels like it's almost two different directors. What I'm wondering is I because I'm curious, because I do know that this is a comic book and in the comic book, the character is unnatural looking, right? I think he has like, I think he he has skin is like, I think he looks not human. More like that. More like that final version of him when he was like totally white.

That's I believe it. Yes. Okay. And he has like a black circle somewhere on his body to like red eyes, because at the end of those red eyes, so I'm looking at him right here and I'm going to show it to everybody on the zoom. You can. Exactly.

Yeah. That's it. He looks a little bit like, yeah. He looks a little bit like, what's that X-Men character Colossus Colossus, yes, but it's not silver. It's what he is white, you know. Yeah. Anyway, so he looks so I would, I would bet that the comic book is more like a really

brutal, violent, vengeance type character. Yeah. And that in doing it with Vin Diesel, he was like, no, what I need is a headquarters for the crew because I got to have a crew. Yeah. When they do the intro crew, it's always and it's always like a it's like a hanger. It's like an empty hanger when they walk in and that dude with who's got the the leg prosthetics is running on a treadmill.

The treadmill sits alone in the middle of the entire room as if it's like, why would you put just a single treadmill in the middle of a giant room? My whole thing is, why are these guys exercising? Like, why has Vin Diesel at one part in the movie lifting weights like you don't need to, you got the robot party, like you don't need to exercise when you got that robot body. It was just a full scene of where we watch Vin Diesel work out. Yes. But we have fake veins.

They have they have they have put fake vascularity on practical. It's not done in post. It's poorly glued fake veins they've put all over his arms. It's crazy. Because that's what's so weird is like you just you actually really don't need a soldier to do this. Like you could put any old I mean, I guess that's your point, Jason, too. Like you put any old person in a box and send them to whatever is your soldier spot

yeah. And they pop out and that's it. That's a fun more fun movie. It's a great movie. Yeah. Yeah. Imagine that movie. Imagine that movie where the guys who are supposed to go and grab Vin Diesel, who's a

super badass soldier, instead grab me and then they give me all of these nanites or whatever. And then I'm running around trying to figure out what I'm supposed to be doing. Great move. Totally. It's like it's like young Frankenstein meets born identity. You were talking earlier about like Iron Man, Wolverine. I think also maybe Vin Diesel at one point.

I don't know. I'm just just watching this movie made me think maybe at one point he was going to be the new Terminator because there are some right Terminator vibes. Even the music when he starts like feeling his invincibility, it's Terminator music. Also the Matrix is really present. It's a crazy movie. It's like, because it is, it's like give me every, it's like I want to take one aspect of every great superhero film and let's just jam it in here.

And I don't think it, like in oddly, it doesn't not work. I mean, it's a fun movie. It's just like, but it's hard to grab onto. It's sort of like, I don't care about it. Well, it doesn't amount to anything. Like it's one of those movies where I watched it and I was like, again, I had, there was a sense of comfort and there was a sense of just, you know, these are pleasing moments to sit through, but there's no, it equates to very little, there's no past that you

care about and there's nothing you're hoping for when he sort of makes this realization and returns to himself. Like I don't know what's to become of him. I don't care about that woman that hormones Michelle Rodriguez. I mean, to me, that was crazy. Like she looks, did anyone else think she looks so much like her? KT, you mean? It didn't occur to me, but you're right.

I thought she was so much like her, but did not have her grit. She is part of the Fast and Furious family as well. She was in Hobbs and Shaw, Aliza Gonzalez. She's also a baby driver. She June has not seen Hobbs and Shaw yet, because she was delinquent for that episode. Oh, yeah, quarantine watch. You would like that. But it's it's it's what Hobbs and Shaw.

OK, this movie lacks what the Fast and Furious movies have. And Hobbs and Shaw and everything have going for them, which is antagonists. Right. We understand that Vin Diesel is the good guy, quote unquote. Although if you think about it in reality, he is a villain because he is the killing tool of a corporation. He's no kind of he's not a government hero. It's as when you realize that the guy he's just killed didn't, in fact, kill his wife. Was just a like just an ex business partner of.

What's his name? Yeah, I peers. Yeah. So he's just out there executing on a super high end level. Um, vengeance hits. It's basically like if Zuckerberg created Superman and was like, go kill the Winklevoss twins. Well, that's what the movie is. There's no bad guy. Even Guy Pierce isn't a villain.

He's not trying to take over the world. He's not. I didn't know what was. I didn't know what we were fighting against or for or. Well, that that's like that guy. That's how I felt when he's fighting the robot legs, man. I'm like, why do I care about this? Like they're both the same side of the coin. Like they're like he's the robot legs guy is no worse than Vin Diesel.

Ultimate writing. And why is he fighting Vin Diesel? Like, why are those guys, uh, following this guy's orders? I thought they all were like cynical about working at this place. Well, I don't know if it's that there. If his legs would not work without right that technology. I mean, because she can't breathe without it with her. Like, by the way, I love that she had like a statement necklace as her respirator device.

Like it was amazing. Yeah. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but so her whole thing is she can't breathe. Um, she breathes through a device that is in, you know, kind of just below her, her, um, just above her chest kind of inner throat area. Yeah. She breathes through a thing that guy Pierce can control. There's this whole scene where Vin Diesel is sitting in like a window seat that looks into a swimming pool where she does like water ballet on the bottom of a pool floor.

So then I was like, oh, she's the Aquaman of the team. She can breathe underwater. She can breathe underwater. It turns out never comes into play. No. That doesn't matter. Yeah, the villain, the villain thing is you're right. Like we needed because again, the cleverness of the first act of the movie

being fake and them commenting on how cliched that that first villain is. Then but then they never introduce an interesting guy. Pierce is always great, but you needed to subvert the the villain. If you're going to set one up as a cliched joke at the beginning, the villain is to be like extra great, um, if that's what you're going to do. And then, but I think no one can out no one can outshine Vin. That's, I think I understand. Yeah, probably Vin Diesel in his movies is like, he does not want that extra heat.

Where I will say, like someone like the Rock, it's constantly putting himself next to people that are maybe even better than him or whatever. Like he'll put himself next to Kevin Hart or he like he's up for a challenge of let's kind of vie for this scene. Yeah, yeah. And I know what we know this from the Fast and Furious movies where he won't lose a fight and he won't every, you know, he has to always come out on top.

He has to like he can't be hurt. He can't be, and this just doubles down on that. Like not on everybody is powerless to him. But there are no like it's not unlike a video game or something where you are leveling up both in your powers and in the powers of, you know, each subsequent villain or boss is more hard to beat than the last. That's not the case. So like once we kill who we think is the first bad guy,

the guy that's dancing in the freezer truck, right? The first guy, then he goes, he finds him, he kills him. That's the reveal that, uh-oh, that's not the case. And what we watch the hacker guy do is clickety-clackety on his computer and all they do is face swap the guy we just killed for another actor who is an actor, an Icelandic actor. I just did a movie with who is hilarious, the guy with the big beard. Oh, he's great.

Johannes Johansson, who's great, but they just swap his face on. And now, you know, the same thing is going to play out. There's no new, there's no new, it's not like, OK, you beat this guy. This guy's going to be even harder to beat. Nope, not the case. There is no evolution. Yeah, there's never that moment where he realizes to what he's done and what he's being tasked to do.

There's never a clear moment where he realizes and is confronted with it. And also, when he goes to the door of who he thought was his wife, and which is actually an interesting scene. And she's well played by her and him as well. But then there's no, like, that's it, though. There's no, like, this is what his real past was. Like, that's what that door is opening to is for us to get some stakes

in what life he was pulled from. But they don't even know there's no effort to to dig into that at all. Well, here's the thing. Like, when you first introduce him to this world, he wakes up in this crazy like sci-fi bed, they immediately get him a black v-neck shirt because they know that that's what he's comfortable in. They were ready to give him these v-neck shirts without a problem. And he comes down and they're explaining high level, technical stuff to him.

Like, this is what you're doing. This is what your body is made up of. And he has a smirk on his face. Like, he's fucking eggheads. He's a fucking guy. Not only that, he is not even... Unphased. Unphased.

He's unfazed by his own death. He's unfazed by the what his body is now capable of doing. He's every step of the way. He's unimpressed by what is unquestionably the most impressive things you've ever... Like, they have brought him back from the dead. He literally has a shit-eating grin on his face. Like, and it's like, and this is the real world. And then even when you see him, like, when he's starting to work out the first time,

like, he punches a punching bag, his hand goes through. And then, like, he's like, let me hit the foundation of this building. And he starts, like, literally punching the foundation. He's punching, like, a load-bearing column. Yeah. It's crazy. I'm like, what can I connect to with this character? Because now, like, he doesn't take in the reality of it.

And he's a fucking idiot. Like, if he is a warrior, why would you, like... Like, he's not trying to escape. It's not like he's trapped in the building. He's trying to knock it down. He literally is like, let me punch this... Yeah. He's just seeing how strong he is.

Maybe this spot is where I should test that out. Also, when he wakes up and they ask him, what do you remember? And he can't remember anything, or he can barely remember his name. I loved watching Vin Diesel playing, having a blank mind. It was a great moment. I mean, that's the thing about Vin is, like, his performance of himself, I think this is honestly, if I'm, and I may ask you to cut this part out, Paul, but if I'm, like, to really get honest with myself about why I enjoy him so much, it's that his performance,

the person of his own masculinity is so transparent. And it's so obvious that I find it actually endearing that there's something about his voice, his voice, what he's dropping into and how he feels he needs to, you know, present as a man and what that looks like and what that should sound like. Yeah, yeah. But it's all external. It's so hilarious. But that's what it is.

It's all externals. It's not coming from within. It's not like, it's all the, it's all the external things that are manly, right? Yeah. It's all the different styles, deep voice, there's no overturning anything. It's performative masculinity. You know what I mean? Absolutely.

There's no responsibility to learn about and take stock of. Oh, God, no. But there's something about Vin, the person, where when I see him doing all those things, there's something about it that I'm like, oh, Vin, there you go again, you know? Yeah. He's a constant, he's an enigma. It's like when he does get fed up with the world, he's like, I'm gonna go take a nap. And like, you know, that's the most emotion that he gives like, oh, like, you know, if

Hugh Jackman, when he like, the inner turmoil of Wolverine is so kind of volatile and everything in this character. Yeah. And this guy's like, I'm gonna take a nap. And then he goes up to take a nap. He's like, hey, he spared no expense on this room. And his mind said is like, I don't have a nice enough room because he can never, he can never as a man have the vulnerability of not knowing.

Right. Like that's also what he attaches to. He never has to suffer or be vulnerable to your point, June, in order to then earn or overcome. He is capable from beginning to end and that and his and that is never once questioned. It's almost Trumpian in its, yes, you know, stubborn, sort of all knowing. Think about this, think about this guy, Pierce and the whole team, right? Every time he kills someone and they reset him, they have to go through that whole performance

again, where they wake him up. They tell him that he died. They introduce him to the idea of the nanite, the nanites, Katie has to say what she has to say. They do the walkthrough of the gym and they all say those same things. Then Katie does the water dance. She says, let's have a drink. They play psycho killer so that he has the flashback and remembers himself.

Then they have to fake be like, where are you going? Where you have to come back? All of that is fake. Yeah. All of it. Yeah. Which is interesting. Yeah.

They have to pay all of those people to keep performing. Those people should be doing real jobs. Right. But there is something that I think this movie misses out on. Well, they kind of are. Right. I guess they are. Facilitating a murderer, I guess.

Yeah, for whatever reason. The thing that I miss is I would like to see it again. What makes Groundhog Day so great is those subtle variations. I mean, there's so much going on in Groundhog Day. You only see it once and it's alluded to that it's happened again. You see like quick clips of it like, oh, so there's no deviation. It's exactly the same. How boring is that?

And by the way. The other one. Oh, yeah. The other one it reminded me of is Live, Die, Repeat. Oh, yeah. Whatever. It was also called. Yeah.

The Tom Cruise movie. But and that, again, also has that video game kind of feel to it where he dies, wakes up at the same moment. But you understand his goal and you understand throughout the movie that even though he continues to die and be reawoken in this event, he is getting closer. He is trying to change the outcome. He's doing something. Yeah.

I mean. He's changing on the inside as well. Yes. But what's the, what was that Jake Gyllenhaal movie? Oh, that one on the train, like not time code, but yeah, that was, yeah. That was terrific. I really liked that movie a lot. That was really cool.

Again, it's sort of borrowing from even that. Source code. Devin is saying it's called source code, right? Yeah. Yeah. But it's like that. But like what this movie lacks is an awareness of his situation until the end. And again, there's no vulnerability, like even when he escapes, he just gets in a truck.

You don't like, okay, like he's, that truck is waiting for, I guess that all makes sense. I don't know. It's a weird, it's just a weird movie to have no vulnerability at all. And when he finds out, he's not even that mad. It's really KT who is the, I mean, KT is kind of the protagonist. She's, yeah. They put it all on her to, for any sense of justice, any sense of emotional, everything emotional is put on the female character.

Well, cause he doesn't, yeah. He doesn't really do much, I suppose, to get himself out of it and to stop this from happening again. Not really. It's just more vengeance. It's vengeance on top of vengeance. Yeah. And then, you know, I think that they kind of missed an opportunity too, because when

he goes to see his wife, like he was married to her, but then they got a divorce. So like that's also like an odd thing because it's like, well, all right, so that first scene isn't real. So then he meets this woman that he was married to. So we don't even know what that relationship, I think it would have been more fulfilling if he saw her in the street and was like, oh my God, I'm alive. And she's like, I don't even know who you are or, you know, like, yeah. I have a question, because I was confused by this, who is, who does Lamorne represent

in this movie? Wait, who's Lamorne? Lamorne is Lamorne Morris, who's the IT guy, the guy who is hacking into Guy Pierce's stuff and hacking. He's like, seems to be against the corporation and Katie teams up with him to kind of give him access in the van. But I couldn't tell who is he, who's he working on behalf of? He was working on the behalf of the other, like the old partner of Guy Pierce.

Oh, okay. That is IT guy. And they held him hostage. Like he's now hostage to just keep on doing tech stuff and he's like, I'm gonna, you know, so he's gonna, you know, he makes the EEPM or whatever, the EMP, you know, so he's just kind of like, he's literally captive to just create tech. Okay. And did I miss why Guy Pierce wants to, is it, is it just to sell this to the highest

bidder? I don't know. Is that it? Was there any other? Is he pursuing immortality? Is he pursuing invincible super soldiers? Is he like, what is the goal? And so he never had cancer.

I assume he did because of that arm and later on, like, oh, when we do the net, when we do this again, I'm not going to be a tennis player. I'm going to be something else. Like every time his story. Why does he love acting so much? Why is he a villain? All of these people just want to perform, I guess. This is, this is a community group because I, because I got the, because I bought it,

I watched all the special features. And one of the deleted scenes, the KT character does go on another audition to see if she can get in a movie. She has a headshot and a resume. And she goes, they go to elementary schools and do Shakespeare. They do a great version of love letters, KT and Guy Pierce. They're a touring, repertory company. Did anyone else notice that, so, okay, so in the main control center where Guy Pierce

is, where the tech guy is, where like the rest of the team is, did anyone else notice there's the main people we see, our main tech guy. And then there's like, like 10 other people, yes, populate, who, this is one thing I did appreciate about the movie. Like I thought KT's costumes were really cool. They were like athleisure, but sort of like these blacks and navies. And I was like, oh, I thought the design of it, like the way they looked was, was really interesting.

And then they had these, these other like lackeys, lackeys who were in like, just like office wear. Yeah. It looked like, it looked like, yes, I noticed that too. Like there's especially one woman who looks a little bit like Phyllis from the office. Yeah. And I was like, I was like, oh, you've, you've literally just taken people who may have auditioned for the office, you put them in there and they just kind of give these odd looks because

like when KT blows up the building, they just kind of like look at her. It's like, and, but, but they also talk about, talk about masculinity. That movie does have like this funny runner of this guy who has a six inch penis and, and KT's like, it's not big, a six inch penis. It's not big enough. And the guy's like, wait, that's not true, right? She's not being serious, right? And then he goes to Guy Pierce and he's like, can you do this for one of my other body parts?

And then everyone walks in in the middle of it. It's like, one of those women who again looks like she's like a temp at like an insurance agency. I mean, she's just not dressed the same way as it would have. At one point Guy Pierce, I feel like they're trying to get a tracker on Vin Diesel or whatever. And he yells at a guy and he's like, Eric, just get it done. And I was like, who's Eric? Who's Eric?

Do I know Eric? They're all complicit in these murders. Like it's happening right there. It's not like there's some of them they're keeping secrets from. They're not military. No. And they're not doing anything else but murder. Yes.

Right. It doesn't seem that there's any other work going on. Like they're not doing like two version 2.0 somewhere. It's like we're just focused on murder. Right. Murdering these people. Yes. It's murder.

It is. And it's not murder. Just it's petty vengeance is what it is. That's so hard to get behind for a movie. It's like you're just rooting for like a company undercutting another company, who cares? But that's my other question is why is he murdering these guys? Because once we go to the second one where we meet what's his name, who's locked in the basement doing tech, why is he killing these guys?

Because that guy is the main IT guy for this other ex-partner of his, right? Yeah. He's blown away and had never seen these nanotites or what are they called? The... Nanites. Yes. Nanites. He had never, he's like, I heard about this, I've heard stories about this, but I didn't

think it was real. If he's trying to kill these people, isn't it because they're catching up with him technology-wise? And so he's trying to get rid of them before they can go to market first? I guess. I mean, that's like... That's the thing is we never hear from... Many of those other people, other than them begging for their lives. I mean, unless they are all up for similar roles that he is for...

Yeah. Yeah. Here's the thing. This is a movie in which Guy Pearce uses Vin Diesel to commit petty just murders that are at his whim to commit crimes. So the whole, every character is a criminal. There are no heroes in the movie, right? Because everybody who dies is an innocent, correct?

Everybody who dies is an innocent. Well, yeah. What did the man do? What did any of those men that Vin Diesel did kill? What did any of them do? We, by the way, we never know because we don't even know what to believe in the whole world. But they didn't do anything he was told they did. They didn't kill his wife.

They didn't kill. What did they do? Did they deserve to die? No. They didn't believe them to be innocent, right? One of them was keeping a prisoner, which is also weird. It's like, well, why is he doing that? Why is he keeping a prisoner if he's like this?

Well, because I think he was so afraid. He was so afraid that he was going to be killed by, I think, Vin Diesel. So I think he was like, I need to protect myself at all costs. Not that that's any reason to kidnap somebody. I'm not an advocate for kidnapping. I know that kind of people... And it sounds like you are, Paul. It's weird.

But in the quarantine, if you can keep a couple of people in the house to do light housework and laundry and stuff like that, it's just a moment. No, no, no, no. Don't worry about it. No, no, no. It's OK, Adam. Because we have a lot of toilet paper and stuff. Like, they're fine.

Yeah. Toilet paper. We have a crawl space and they can sleep in there and it's warm and everything. What? You guys. No, they just come out just for light housework. Wait. Who's that that just ran by in the background?

That wasn't one of your children. You should shut up. Shut up. Shut up. You can't leave. Please. Oh, my god. Oh, can I just say one thing to this?

All right. So by the way, this movie is a low budget movie. It's $45 million in the grand scheme of like big blockbusters and superhero movies. Yeah. That's all. You know, and so what I love about this film is they really blew they blew their their money on the flower scene with the flower truck turns over and the flares. So so much so that in that second fight scene where he kills the guy who is holding someone

Most of that fight is on infrared, like, in the background. That's right. Like, you don't see it. It's just on screens. That's right. Like, you're watching someone just watch infrared, not even security cameras. Yeah. It's like, they didn't even have the money to shoot that.

That made me laugh. There's also very few people in the movie. There's almost no exterior, there's almost no scenes that take place outside. That's right. There's, so there's very little exterior stuff. I mean, indoors is very sparsely populated. It's 11, like a really 11 speaking roles. Like I mean, roughly, like that's that's about the right number.

Clearly shot in Romania or something. Oh, I'm sure. But I will say this, it did not feel to me small. You know what I mean? Like it still had it still had set pieces. They still did a good job with what is, you know, quite a lot less money than, you know, any of the similar franchises that, you know, we can talk about being related to it, which cost to, you know, between one and $300 million to make a Fast and Furious or, you know, one

of these type of movies. Well, I think that I think the thing about this movie that's interesting is the director, this guy, Dave Wilson, is a video game visual effect guy. So he's done like Halo Mass Effect and BioShock. So I think they use a lot of that, because especially that last fight scene in the elevator shaft, I'm like, this just feels like a video game cut scene or something. It looks that way. It doesn't even look like, it looks like old CGI or something like that.

Yeah. Yeah. You know what was cool though was in that flower scene, which by the way, didn't make any sense. Once he hit them head on, like, why didn't the Toby Kebble suburban just turn around and go the other way? They're in a tunnel. Yeah.

They're just stopped. He just sits there waiting. Yeah. Yeah. The thing would be, if Vin Diesel was smart, he would have sent the truck down empty to crash, then he would have entered from the other side so that they're trapped between him and the crash truck, but he leaves them, he leaves them an exit. They all could have turned around and just left.

Or just hit reverse. His vehicle is destroyed. Did you notice though, when he steals the jet and then the truck, there's no, it's just both exteriors of both the jet and the truck, and they don't show him driving them on the inside. It's really weird. Okay. So here's the thing.

He's trapped. So I know you can't hurt him, and he's physically very strong, but are we to believe that he's downloaded all of that information about how to fly the plane? Yeah. Like the matrix. That's an odd thing because his body is made of nanites. That isn't enough. He's also literally a human computer.

That's what I didn't understand, like, how are those nanites affecting like putting information from the world inside of his brain? He doesn't actually use that intelligence really in other ways throughout the movie. He only does it to tax the cars. He's not like speaking other languages. He's not like inputting massive amounts of knowledge. Again, very interesting possibilities. He could immediately figure out Guy Pearce's whole thing and go to war with Guy Pearce

as a result. That's the movie. The movie should be. He sees something he shouldn't, which gives him this idea of, oh, this is all artifice. The guy I think is my ally is my enemy and use his use the guy's tech against him. That is the far superior movie. It is called Upgrade. The movie.

Oh, yeah. Upgrade is good. So good. The movie Upgrade is fucking fantastic. I can't speak highly enough about this movie. It's so good. It's Logan Marshall Green. Logan Marshall Green.

Is that his name? I think it is. I saw Upgrade. Upgrade is awesome. Yeah. And it's the same thing. A guy, an eccentric billionaire tech, you know, Guy offers this guy a deal I can upgrade your body to be basically be a superhero type person, except it's not a superhero movie.

The tropes aren't superhero movies. The tropes are like taken or some relentless, you know, Charles Bronson movie or something. It is just a brutal attack on the infrastructure of what has made him this way. That movie I think is terrific. But you're totally right. And I'm just thinking about this. And I guess we've already said this, but it is crazy that even Vin Diesel's motivation when he wakes up is I need to kill the person who killed my wife.

And then it's not even doing he's not even it's not like, oh, you're going to do a job that is for the greater good. The only job he does is vengeance. So he's doing vengeance. The guy who's controlling him is doing vengeance like, so there's not even there's no twist. It's not like, oh, I thought I was doing good by killing this guy. It's like, no, no, you just were getting vengeance. It's so dumb.

That's why I think they had the the hacker character imprisoned is so we wouldn't feel so bad about him murdering the guy upstairs. I can't see any other logical reason to have him imprisoned. Why not just have him be the IT guy working for this guy? But Tony Keeble, like that character that Max acts character, whatever his name is like, he also is not he's nothing. He's holding no one captive. And what if like, but we like, but we feel like it's they don't do a good job of saying

like what? Like, yeah, it's weird. It's so weird. But I can't. I think they can't this movie suffers from if they gave us more information, it would show that the movie is bad. It would expose the it would expose the weaknesses of the movie if they were to say give you more in if they were to let any of those other characters have a monologue to Vin Diesel

to say, hey, this is what's going on. You're you know, if they even had that the whole thing fall. It's a house of cards, you know, can't can of worms. Yeah. By the way, my favorite, my favorite monologue off in this movie is and I don't remember all the lines like people like you are. And then he's like, well, people like you are and it's like, and then well, I have a people like you.

They basically use people like you in four interactions back and forth. Oh boy. Yeah, really, like that was the real head to head moment. I did love I wanted there were there were a couple of performances I really enjoyed and I I love there was fun stuff in here. I really enjoyed the introduction the first time we see the first fake villain who we think is the real villain and it is psycho killer is playing and meat locker and he's going to be tortured and like I thought I was like, I was like, oh, this is fun.

This is I'm enjoying the and what you and then you realize, oh, because they they created it to feel like it was a movie, you know, and it was cliched in its, you know, they they're critical of the those beats, but I still thought even still I'm enjoying that element of it. Yes. Yes. I mean, this movie goes down super smooth and it's like I was enjoying the entire thing. It's only when you look back at it and you're trying to break it apart that you're like, oh,

that makes no sense. But I told June because you watch it after me. I was like, you'll have no problem watching this. Yeah, it figured it out. You'll have no problem watching it. It is true. Like it is a fun. I had fun watching him and give the work lift arm. Let's do it.

Let's go. You know, it was awesome was that for that again, the flower in the tunnel scene when he's just that when it just shifts into slow mo for a full like three minutes, him walking towards them in slow mo, taking all the fire and absorbing it all. And then what he does to those dudes and it ends with the guy just being thrown into the back of the truck. That was all terrific. I love when he gets like shot in the face and the bone from his like, oh, yeah, the jaw

comes out. Like, I mean, I didn't quite understand the final fight scene when he turns white in fights guy Pierce. I didn't quite understand what was going on there and why. And then and I thought he is literally think it was because he was dying. I think it was because he was heating up quite sure what happened to what was going. Yeah, it would mean knowing in me neither because he was out of nanobytes or whatever. And and then he blew himself up.

So it killed him both. But then he wakes up and they're like, you're you're all good. Yeah. What did they use? They use like a little like did he go in the scoop up the nanobytes, but he didn't have nanobytes. He's like, did he use that little thing that he put in the cup? I think I think it was working on something.

Yeah. They tried to shoot him with a bomb thing, right? They shot him with one bomb and it worked, right? But it didn't kill him yet. So they shot him with another. But the nanobytes went out and grabbed that bomb and deconstructed some component of it, but left the like the warhead element so that when he blew it up, it would only hurt Guy Pierce because because Guy Pierce is still human, except for his arm.

But also, how could he not have nanobytes left because or nanites because he was whole again by the time he revealed that he had the bomb, he was all reconstructed. But I thought that the reading said zero. I mean, that was that that was a little fast and I mean, I don't know, because it's also like it feels like he would have no skin left. I don't know. I don't know what these nanobytes do. It's probably an N.D.

A nanobytes. I mean, listen, sometimes my nanobytes down on a cookie and it hurts her tooth. But I think what we need to figure out is how to just get me how to just get me. So here's the question I have. So at the end, at the very end, he's his what's what's happening in his bloodstream? His body is just back to basics. Well they said early in the movie that he doesn't have blood. The nanites are his blood, right, right.

So at the end of the movie, he still has nanites in him. He must. But if I'm Guy Pearce and I put nanites in Vin Diesel and it works, why aren't I immediately putting nanites in myself and anybody else? Why doesn't it now? I don't get it. Like like it works. I get it.

Here's the thing. I think I think you must be close to dead. I mean, I do think he was a soldier that was not claimed, right? Yes. I think that's right. I think that's true. So I think you have to maybe have bled out or not have blood in your full, like I don't think they could.

Vampire style. What's that? Vampire style. Yeah. Like I think you can't you can't have that amount of nanites. If you're just like walking around, they can't just start pumping your blood with it. I thought that's what they were explaining. Right.

You have to be depleted of life. I mean, they could probably they could probably take it, but but they also do that thing where they shoot that little like little shot into his hand. Maybe like the nanites come in and wipe out the blood or that table is there to suck up the blood. I don't quite understand that like that futuristic table either that he's on. But so at the end though, so he's just living like a domestic life now with those nanites in him.

Yeah. They also say you never have to recharge again. You're all good. Yeah. It like takes away any conflict. Are they solar? Yeah. And it Katie just feels bad.

That's it. She just feels bad that they keep mind wiping him and using him for another senseless murder. She's just like, she's just like, why won't you let the guy rest, you know, that's basically her thing. Yeah. There is something though. And this is what I can't get to the bottom of it. And I'm sure people will comment on this.

Why Katie and the two other people in the crew, they have a certain amount of nanitechnology but not as fully as Vin Diesel so like Vin Diesel has been the like, I guess they were at one point trying out for Vin Diesel's role. They didn't get it. Vin Diesel now is the star. So I think they're a little jealous. Like I could have been bloodshot. But the technology didn't meet me.

So I think maybe a robot legs is like, fuck, man, that was my job was to be the vengeance, man. And now this guy's going to get all my attention. See, that's interesting. If that was clear, that would be cool. Yeah. I feel like they just manufactured that that guy, the prosthetics leg got legs guy hates Vin Diesel.

They didn't explain any of it. I think they just needed someone to be a bad guy. I think they just needed somebody to be a dick because everybody else in the movie is like, technically, but not fine, you know, they're just like kind of whatever. Everybody's got an evil plan except for Guy Pierce. And he is part of the hero's journey weirdly. There's the one the guy that's the one guy that's like a dick through the whole movie who ends up with those extra couple arms.

Yes. Yeah. The forklift arms. Yeah. The guy who does a snot rocket. Yes. Oh, I didn't see that. Yes.

Oh, I saw that. I had that in my notes too. I was like, he was like, let me go again. I got an idea for something. Yeah. You know, like he blows the snot rocket in the middle of the fight. By the way, that end fight scene, there was something so crazy about that because they say like, oh, let's see him survive that.

I'm like, you guys work here. You know he will survive it. That's the thing. Yes. He is unkillable. Okay. So that's why I didn't understand like why is Guy Pierce even pulling out a gun on him at the end?

Exactly. Well, because he's waiting for the nanobytes to go to zero and then he can kill him. Then shoot him. Yeah. Okay. All right. Okay. But then it happens and it doesn't kill him.

But he should just have an EMP ready to go at any given notice because he could just shut him down. Yes. He's also got like the shutdown button in his robot arm. Is that the only shutdown button? Can I just say my favorite part in this whole movie was when Vin Diesel is like first waking up and he's connecting to Guy Pierce, who I really do like in this movie. Guy Pierce is always good.

Yeah. He's good. But Vin Diesel just touches his robot arm. So imagine like getting up and then someone's talking to you and you just automatically, he just grabs this guy's robot arm. I felt like such a aggressive move to like, it's almost like touching someone's prosthetic. Like, well, what's that? Yeah.

Like it was so bizarre to me. Yeah, it's odd. Just to me, it's just an odd, odd first reaction. Oh boy. Obviously, we had opinions about this movie, but there are people out there with a different opinion is now time for second opinions. Thank you, John Lejois. These are second opinions called from Amazon because this movie is out for purchase right

now. There are a lot of Amazon reviews. There are 713 reviews for this movie, which is a record that is big. Let's see. 60% are five star reviews. 60%. Wow. And I'll just get into some of these.

There's one really funny thing that will get into a funny thread. This is from an Amazon customer, no name here. And the title is really good, good start to a new comic book universe on screen because I love Bloodshot and KT as partners. But whoa, the chemistry between KT and Dalton, that needs to be explored. So that was somebody. Who's Dalton? Who's Dalton?

Yeah, who's Dalton? I believe Dalton is Guy Pierce. Hold on. No, no, no. No, Dalton is a robot legs man. Oh, is that Sam Claflin? No. Sam Heughan.

Oh. H-E-U-G-H-A-N. Sam Heughan? Okay. Okay. Okay. Different. Okay.

Okay. Different Sam. All right. So this one is written by R Eastweiler. And R Eastweiler writes, definitely worth a few rewatches to catch all the little details you miss. Five out of five stars. And then I don't think there's that many little details.

This is... All right. I love the... These are all pretty simple, but Sean Wigsback writes, best special effects I have seen since Marvel Endgame. First of all, Marvel Endgame is not necessarily the title, but these are not on par with Avengers Endgame. It was also not that long ago, so there hasn't been that many comic book movies since then.

I mean, listen, I don't know special effects. I mean, I can't speak from one to the other, but I enjoyed these. You know, I enjoyed seeing the blood get transformed into those weird little needles and go back and... Yeah. It's fun. Especially knowing how little money they had for stuff like this, I actually think it looks very good.

Yeah. Yeah. More of these movies. Even to end elevator fight where the seams are showing a little bit, it was really fun. One of the things I loved before that elevator fight was when robot legs put those like weird metal leeches into his back. Yeah. I don't know what that was.

Oh, and he had that... Did that make his arm, those other arms come out? Oh, maybe. Yes. Yeah. I think he was attaching himself to like... That's for the action. To that apparatus.

Yeah. Meanwhile, he has a full back tattoo that is like a reptile skeleton. His entire back is a tattoo that looks like the Arcterics insignia. It's crazy. Reuben Rees writes this marvelous action flick, but Marvel is all capitalized. Get your diesel fix here. No one pays Vin to do rom-coms. So why are people complaining about his acting?

He did great in this. The special effects are on par with a Marvel. Better than Black Panther, no shade loved it. Leading lady was beautiful, not quite plausible as a Navy SEAL. Nope, not buying it. I saw this movie as an AMC pre-screening just before the world ended in April. I left satisfied. Worth downloading for 20 bucks?

Hmm, five stars. Wow, really on the fence, but then not at all on the fence. Also, this person is still going to movie theaters in April? I have questions. Yeah, it's like a week ago. I mean, that was that is recent. You should have been at home a long time ago, buddy. Yeah, we're we're almost on day 40 of being in home quarantine here.

So this is the interesting. This is the interesting thing that Nate Kiley does. All of our research found out there is a long, long a bunch of reviews that are only Sam Hewan fans. That's robot legs. So I'm just going to jump through and just read a couple of them. Can I ask is he from something in particular that you know, is he like in one direction or something? I mean, it doesn't out.

Oh, Outlander, Outlander, it's a hundred percent Outlander. Yeah, there you go. Outlander, which is a beloved like show, a very romantic, kind of sexy. It's a Ronald D. Moore show that is about a woman, I believe, in the forties who travels back in time to the 16th century to have erotic adventures. And I believe introduces the idea of blowjobs to the world. Wow. So this is it is.

It is that that is we talked about this on the podcast Binge Mode recently. And while that is a comedic version of it, it is a story of a woman who travels through time, but it is distinctly erotic. No, no, I knew that I just did. I wondered if it was true that like blowjobs, she invents blowjobs. Like, she doesn't, but they are featured prominently to people whose minds are blown apparently.

I love Ron Moore, but I have not seen Outlander yet. No, it's like on the cover of EW all the time. It's a it's like one of the huge show. Huge show. Yeah. Yeah. So these are all the reviews. It's like this one is this five out of five stars. Sam Hewitt is in it. And then the review is that's all you need to know. Hashtag Huligans.

Then it was like, yeah, this one is called five stars. Sam Hewitt is in it. I must see for any Sam Hewitt fans. They like, I want to see deleted scenes of Sam and them. I want like so like. And then this one is like this one again from Jezam. Sam Hewitt is in it. Just in case no one mentioned it.

Sam Hewitt is an actor who is in this movie. Five stars. Wow. And then it's like this one is like a cure for the quarantine blues. And yes, Sam Hewitt is in this five stars. And then, yeah, it's like it's, yeah, quarantine Sam Hewitt time. Like it's it's it is a ridiculous amount of Sam Hewitt fans. I love the idea of Outlander fans watching this movie just to get their Sam Hewitt fix.

That's very funny. I know. So this movie obviously came out right at the start of the the the spread of coronavirus, especially here in the States. It made thirty two thousand dollars internationally, thirty two thousand. Yeah. And the opening weekend for this film was nine million dollars, nine million. But that, you know, it's a tricky weekend

because it was like really the last weekend that movie theaters were open. And the, you know, it just came out at the the the tag lines are pretty great. Being a hero is in his blood. And this is another right one, but it's not in his blood. No, because I would argue he's maybe not a hero. Being a murderer is in his blood. Someone put that in there. Yeah. Yeah. It's not in his blood.

It's not his blood. Yeah. No, it's not his blood. It's not his blood. The other tag line is also problematic. You don't need a past to have a future. But I would argue, yeah. I mean, but I don't know. I mean, he doesn't even seem curious about what his past was at all. Yeah. Yeah. He finds out it's all a fraud and then just kind of moves on.

He's like, let me drive this truck out here. He literally wakes up out of a bed after being disintegrated because I'm awake. All right, cool, walks out and then gets in the driver's seat of the truck and starts just starts driving. He doesn't even know where they are. Yeah. And whose truck is that? How does he have the keys to it?

How does he know where he's going? Like he drives just to an airport, gets on a plane and flies it away. I get that he's I get that he's got stuff. Oh, yeah, I'm talking about the pickup truck. I'm talking about the pickup truck at the end. He's got powers, but they set him up as having powers that are so comprehensive. He himself would be instantly able to

disassemble, disassemble the plot that he is currently with. 100 percent. You know what I mean? Like it's the minute he starts looking into he could probably look at his own fingerprints, find his own identity and do all of the homework instantaneously. That's right. He could look at at at Guy Pierce, probably do facial recognition,

figure out who he is. He is like he does. He's here's the thing. He they create an unstoppable, vengeance filled, killing machine who's also a straight up moron. Yes. Yes. He punches. Yes. He has no he has no introspection. He punches the fucking building that he's in down.

Like he's an idiot. He has no concrete being like blasted and punched in this movie, not just in the scene where he almost topples the building he's currently in, but elsewhere. They're always like when he punches the table, I mean, punches the table too. Yeah. Come on, man. Why would David Byrne let them use that song? I was wondering the same exact thing.

Could have been. Why did how did this get licensed? This is crazy. By the way, that was like kind of the American Psycho. Like that's the moment that's the the Huey Lewis dance right there in the beginning. I also felt it was I felt it was hard to be intimidated by a villain in a parka. Like, you know, to put on a parka like he gets in that meat freezer and then puts on a park. Yeah. Just. All right.

So guys, would we recommend this movie? I'll just go around the horn. Adam, do you recommend the movie? Yes, I would. It was it was super fun. And and the the twist was, I thought, well, laid a little kind of disappointing that they didn't make it cooler after the twist. But it was fine. I had fun in better hands. This is a better movie.

Like, you know, like I feel like that's like because actually the guys who did John Wick in Deadpool, Jason, your buddies, they were going to direct this at a certain point. And that's I could see that. Yeah, that's cool. I've not read this comic, but I could see this being a comic book that could have been a cool world to build into. I think this version of it just got desolized. And so it feels more like a fast and furious movie.

It feels more like with an international team and a whole thing. I feel like diesel, you know, much like we're trying to do here in the States, flatten the curve like he takes he takes the edges off of these movies. And it's it's neat. It's not sexy. It's not scary. It's like it's sort of like it's just an action movie. Now, that that being said, I totally recommend it. Yeah. I would recommend it to my caveat would be. Yes. So it is going to be for rent in on May 5th.

Yes. So I would say wait to rent it. I don't think you need to own this movie. Yes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But when it's rentable, oh, my God. If and if you can, because we're all under quarantine and you listen to this podcast and you're that kind of person, get a whole bunch of your friends on on the zoom or a Skype or I don't know what the fuck. And all watch it together, even just on the phone. All watch it together because it's a blast.

This movie is fun. And so I think you would enjoy watching this with people at a time that it might take a little effort to do it with people. So I agree with that, June. Yeah, no, I totally agree. I think that it's it's really it is really fun. I was really scared to watch a movie for this podcast during these times. And and and and this this gave me a lift, you know.

And again, you know, Vin's Vin is just as Vin as ever. And he's giving you everything you want from him. So I totally agree that it scratches the warm sweater. Yeah. And we're going to have and we have to wait a little bit more to see. Vin, well, this has been fantastic. Adam, do you have anything you want to plug anything you want to talk about? I mean, I would have been start. I would have started shooting my new show yesterday. Wow.

But here we are. So hopefully we'll get that in the can at some point. And then I can then I can plug it. I actually have a game show coming out in June called Don't. Well, that sounds fun. Yeah. And then what is it? I have a game show coming up also in June called I wish you wouldn't. That's right.

Wait, I want to know the purpose of Don't. What's what's Don't? Don't is about it's it's telling people it's all about not doing things, getting people to like eat a ghost pepper and not drink the milk that's sitting in front of them. Got it. Stuff like that.

Ryan Reynolds created it. And I'm the host of it. It'll be on ABC. And it's really fun. Look at that. I love that. June, I know you're doing something really cool right now with Jane Club. Can you talk about that a little bit, too? Absolutely.

So, you know, the the workspace in LA is is closed with the stay at home LA orders, but we have moved the entire experience online to our digital membership, which is called the Connected Jane. And it's been it's been so fantastic and rewarding. And I feel like for so many women who are out there right now working on their professional lives and also taking care of kids at home and really any parent and and and anyone who who just is craving

that kind of connection and community right now. It's it's been really special and wonderful. So the programming is ranges from fitness classes to teachings on all sorts of different subjects to book clubs to meditation. And it's just a really full program and slate and day. And yeah, I would encourage anyone who's out there to who's might need of the real village of resources

around them right now to check it out at Jane Club dot com. And the head of this get made listeners if they type in under the referral code inside or Jane and can get twenty five dollars off of their first month. Awesome. That is awesome. Jane Club's so cool. Thank you. I love it. And then, Jason, anything you want to plug?

Nothing I really want to plug. I mean, here's what I'll say. You know, there's a lot of great stuff, you know, podcasts and books to read and stuff to occupy your time. You know, there's certainly a lot of great charities to be giving to. There's certainly a lot of great work you can be doing to help combat what is an unprecedented nightmare escape that we are living in. But if you would like to, there's also, you know, we mentioned Binge Mode

or Doe Boys, or there's a lot of great things you can be doing. I've really been watching shows that make me laugh. Things that really take my mind off of it a little bit, especially late at night when I'm having trouble sleeping. I just watched all of Comedy Central's Detroiters, which is. Oh, it's so good. Sam Richardson and Tim Robinson's show that had two seasons and is so funny. Tim Robinson also did the sketch show.

I think you should leave on Netflix that I think is that I thought was terrific. Hilarious. So there's just there's lots of really good map Berry from Toast of London and I T Crowd has a new show on IFC called Year of the Rabbit that I thought was very funny. There's just there. I just watched all of Schitt's Creek, who knew so fun. I've been wanting to watch it. Yeah, it's a good.

OK, I got to check that out. It's terrific. So, you know, now's the time to like, I don't know, you know, do what work you can do, help how you can help. Thank you to everybody who is out there on the front lines of this thing. Medical professionals, first responders, anybody who is out there. Thank you. School teachers who are teaching from home. Exactly. So many people doing things and challenging the way that they have to do their jobs and all of us who

watched Bloodshot tonight and also offering our thanks. You know, I was going to say, we are also heroes. We are also heroes. You know what? I have one other show that you mentioned, Logan Marshall Green. And it reminded me of his show, Quarry, a cinema show. Have you seen Quarry? Yeah, I watched it early on and I didn't. It was terrific. Was it good? OK.

It's worth following through. It was just one season. They were he looks alarmingly like Tom Hardy. Yeah, it really does. By the way, Tom Hardy and Capone looks amazing. Oh, I didn't even see that. That's great. Oh, check out that. Was he playing Al Capone?

Yeah. Watch that trailer. It's going to blow your mind. I will just say quickly say there is a lot of ways that get free showtime right now to catch up on Black Monday. We are taking a break in our season because of coronavirus stopped our post production, but we will be back. But you can check it all out if you go to my Instagram page. You can see how to get free showtime.

And I've also been doing this thing. I got this like texting app thing where you actually it's like social media, but you can text with me. It's real. It's not a charge. It's not anything weird. It's not like fan or cameo or anything like that. If you text me at 917-877-0657, I've been giving out like these quarantine picks of a day, whether it's a long read or a music or a movie.

And it's just it's just you send out dick pics every day during quarantine. Yeah, they're they're kind of fun. I mean, yeah, different characters. Some of them are funny. Some of them are serious. Like, yeah, some of them have a message with a little like top hat and stuff. Yeah, some like sometimes it'll look like Napoleon. A little like Mr. Pedro.

Yeah, Mr. Peanut. Sometimes it will say like it will say. And you put different like different Zoom backgrounds on. Yeah, you build actual dioramas. June says I should be busy parenting, but I am just having fun doing that. And I am still on my Etsy shop selling diarrhea dioramas. So if you want to go to my Etsy shop, please, please support me. I love it.

Guys, I want to give a shout out to Cody and Devon, who are silently on here. Yes. Zooming with us late night. Thank you for being with us, our super producer and our amazing engineer. Also, Nick Kiley, who did all this research for us and read through all these reviews of Bloodshot. And I'll give a shout out to July and Molly, everybody here. And Nick Kiley wanted me to say that if you want to hear Nick Kiley's voice, because you've been hearing him do all this research,

you can listen to him on rounding down, talking about Frozen 2. But thank you to everybody. And a big shout out to Craig T. Nelson, designing all of our amazing How Does It Get Made Art, which you've been seeing on Instagram and, of course, Wait, coach? Kyle Waldron. Coach?

The ghost of Craig T. Nelson. That is his. Thank you. His acronym. Sorry. Well, thank you, everybody, so much. And we will be back with a mini episode next week. And you could talk to us about Bloodshot and tell us what we got wrong, because you guys are big VCU fans.

Thank you, Adam. Thank you, June. Thank you, Jason. Thanks, guys. For now, How Does It Get Made?