How Did This Get Made? - Matinee Monday: Bratz (w/ Kate Berlant)

Episode Date: July 10, 2023

Comedian Kate Berlant (A League of Their Own, Search Party) joins Paul, June, and Jason to talk about the 2007 live-action teen comedy Bratz based on the popular children’s toy. They dive into the futuristic fashion of the Bratz, Jon Voight’s fake nose and ears, why Bratitude is just an attitude, and so much more. (Originally released 09/01/2017)  HDTGM is going on tour this August! Tix on sale now at hdtgm.com For more Matinee Monday content, visit Paul's YouTube page: https://www.youtube.com/c/PaulScheer Follow Paul on Letterboxd: https://letterboxd.com/paulscheer/ HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: https://discord.gg/paulscheerCheck out Paul and Rob Huebel live on Twitch (https://www.twitch.tv/friendzone) every Thursday 8-10pm ESTSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael here: listen.earwolf.com/deepdiveSubscribe to Unspooled with Paul Scheer and Amy Nicholson here: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledCheck out The Jane Club over at www.janeclub.comCheck out new HDTGM merch over at https://www.teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmWhere to find Jason, June & Paul:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on Twitter

If Mean Girls was a person and then that person suffered blunt trauma to the head, you would have brats. We saw brats so you know what that means. Take some cards, you can't get that thing, what's that for? We're talking about that, do it to the quest, yeah, how it is prepared, how it is prepared. Hello people of earth and welcome to how did this get made. That was a new theme song from Nick Jagger and I'm glad I let the little tambourine play out at the end. Welcome. We are talking about Bratz today the 2007 film based on the popular children's toy. I am joined as always by my co-host Jason Manzooka space and I can't believe Mick Jagger did a theme song for us That's pretty huge. That's mix. I know it's Nick Jagger. This is a Mick Jagger from the role. Yeah, no, it's Nick. It's yeah

Also joining us as always is our co-host Jean Diane Raphael. How are you? I'm good. How are you Paul? Very good. I'm excited to talk Bratz with both of you. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. But we are joined by a very special guest. She is somebody that I think is fantastically funny. She is a brand new series on Vimeo. Just go to Vimeo.com, check it out.

It's called 555, please welcome Kate Berlant. Hello. Hello. Oh, boy, Kate, how did you feel about Brad? Brad! Okay. Gotta get there Brad. To be honest, I loved it.

I'm pro. You're pro Brad. You're pro Brad. I paused it certain frames, I was like, well, shot on film. It's beautiful, the colors are vibrant. I'm not kidding. I have a lot to talk about. I will say she pops.

I will say that I enjoyed this movie. I find myself sometimes watching these movies and checking how much longer, how much longer. And there was something about this that had a nice forward momentum too. You see, I paused at one point to be like, all right, I've got to be near the end and I was still had a full hour left.

I was like, how have I only watched 30 minutes of this? Oh, this movie is two hours long by the way. Holy, it's an hour and 50 minutes. Really? Yeah, an hour and 50 minutes. I thought it was one thirty two. I was like, how economical. No, no, no. This is like, this is like pushing. This is longer than the dark tower. I hate you. And Dunkirk. This movie is long. By the way, and it's in 70 millimeter. I watched it in 70 mil. I rented a theater and I got them to play it in 70 mil.

Well, here's my question, just a thought as a general, before we even get into specifics. Is this movie a parody? Is it satire or is it supposed to be straight down the middle? I can't- Oh no, this movie is not at all a parody or satire. This is like, but I feel like this is Mean Girls or or cheerleader movie, what is it?

Bring it on. Bring it on, but for like younger girls. I feel like this is aimed at like twin girls, not team girls. What's interesting, there's one scene, I mean it's like where to start, when the rats, but there's one scene, like a makeover scene where they all go shopping.

Which makeover scene? Okay. They go to the mall, the one where they're prepping for, at the grove, they're prepping for the sweet 16. Yes. By the way, one of the characters Meredith

has a second sweet 16. That was one of the jokes that made me laugh in the movie. The present's are in seconds. Oh, the MTV producer ever. The MTV producer's in 16. But there's one moment where jokes that made me laugh in the movie. The present's in seconds. Oh, the MTV producer. The MTV producer in 16. But there's one moment where they are getting made over. And then there's a bunch of younger girls sort of sitting at a, I don't know, island of some sort.

And they're making them over. And that's when I realized, oh, that's the audience. This movie is for those little girls. This movie is for little girls that play with those dolls. Is there any more information? Like, is there a TV show that we should have seen? The doll. The doll is what this movie is based on.

The dolls were very popular. The cry on the doll. Yes, there. Okay, but are there books surrounding the doll? You can just keep on saying the doll. The dolls, there are four ten-inch dolls released in 2001. Yes, me Chloe Jade and Sasha. Yes, men. Yes, men. And then fifth brat was added in 2015, and her name is Raya. And what is her national? Raya, wait a minute. Did she invent the dating app? She is, yeah, she's, she probably did. That's right.

The Brad invented the celebrity dating app. But the Brats did spin off to Brats Kids, Brats Babies, Little Brats, Brats Boys. Little Brats? It's a bitty Brats and Brats Pets, not Pets, Brats Pets. Wow. And the Brats Babies with a Z are very disturbing because they are as like sexy as the brats babies with a Z are very disturbing because they are as sexy as the brats.

Oh, no. Brats were a doll that I remember being criticized because they were too skinny and had too big heads, right? That was the thing. They look like the Steve Madden ads. Yeah, their eyes are very big and yeah. Here's what I do appreciate about the brats though. I mean, 10 inches.

So that's taller than a Barbie doll. Yeah. Right, yeah. Here's what I do appreciate about the brats though. I mean, 10 inches. So that's like taller than a Barbie doll. Yeah. Right. Yeah, that's taller than the same. They're louder than Barbie. They're louder than Barbie. Yes, yes. Well, that's what I think they're sort of our response to,

which in some ways I put, now look, this movie was nothing like I thought the dolls were having seen them only a few times. I thought the brats were brats. I would've believed as much. I thought that the brats were brats. I would have believed as much. I thought that the brats were brats. They were not brats. They were not brats.

If anything narrative in her group would be the brats. We're brats. They're reappropriating brats. Right, they took, they embraced the brat. Like that's the only thing. I didn't think the good thing about the brats is that we're so there. I'm showing some thing about the brats is that so there they are. I'm showing some pictures of the brats.

Just going to see. There's a little, you know, there's a little. Like do you think it's cool that they, they feel like a response to Barbie in that they are multicultural? Well sure and they are also young. Like I think Barbie is meant to be an adult woman, right? They have full makeup on, right? They're not.

They're high school kids. How old do you think Barbie is? She said they're not. They're high school kids. High school kids. How old do you think Barbie is? She's a professional woman. She works, she drives a car. She has an apartment. She's a woman. I would say Barbie is in her mid-twenties.

Okay, that's interesting. That's interesting. I was gonna say 27. 27, what do you think? I think Barbie's 21 if she's a day. Okay, that's... Oh, no, no, no, I agree. Oh, I think she's in the twenties. I think Malibu if she's a day. Oh, no, no, no. I think she's in the 25th.

I think Malibu Stacy is 21. But Barbie's like 21. Really? Oh, I gotta make some calls. 27 probably, isn't right. 27, yeah, I think 24. Yeah, 24. She took, took, took close to 30, 27.

24, 24. Regardless, I think Barbie is unadult. Let's say in her 20s, and I think the brats are high school kids, right? Yes, the freshmen, the freshmen in high school. I have a fundamental question about this movie. Yes. What is the length of time this movie takes place during a whole year? No, no more than two, because in three years, like eight minutes in, they're like two years.

Yes, yes. They kept saying two, it's been two years and I was like since when comic and since what since what happened They walked into the cafeteria and like a couple of people waved at each of them And they all were like later skater and they basically stopped talking to each other for two years And they didn't powerful and they didn't really have they didn't seem to have a breakup though They just seem to they're involved with ghost in each other for two or three years. I think it's powerful. And they didn't really have, they didn't seem to have a breakup though. They just seemed to, they involved with, they ghosted each other. Yeah, they were brutalized into categories,

which women are and teen girls are more than anyone. And so, what's category being MIMES? Well, that was the thing. Sometime, this is why I thought the movie had elements of satire in it, because they would be like, oh, those are the loners. And then the MIME was hanging out with some of the loners,

but then there's also a table full of mimes. So there was, and I felt like there was some elements. Like when that kid jumped in the pool with the leather jacket on, he slam up a little brother. I'm ready to tie that up. I'm ready to tie that up. I have a dissertation on the little brothers in teen movies.

This kid is cut from the same cloth as the teen- teen witch little brother. Yes, like a hundred percent. I disagree. Wow. I think the teen witch brother has so much charm and is so delightful. Yes.

This little brother made me feel sick. And this little brother is a fucking pedophile. Oh, yeah. Wow. Well, he's hitting on a nervous little sister. Nine-year-old sister. Yes, but how old is he? That's what I wrote, because he keeps saying me like he. It's just a test.

It's like he's not careful. You didn't like it. I didn't like him. Him saying me like he to the child who is in the movie. I don't know, maybe they're in the same grade. I don't know what this is. No, I thought she was younger. He was younger.

He was younger. She has a lot of sass of shoes. She was a star. Yeah, she was great. She was terrific. She won my favorite parts of the entire movie because she just, you know, she know to throw it back at her sister. I mean, her sister isn't.

These are the jokes here, folks, is what she says at one point. Well, here's something I just put in your your bonnet uh... so the perth the the the dot just for the listener juni is wearing a lot of yeah we make everybody now where bonnets uh... this movie was written by a writer of the man show and the oligee show whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo who What are you talking about? Yeah, the story was by Adam DeLapina and David Ellenburg, and yeah, the Oligi show and the Man Show. That's some of their credits.

Wow. Wow. The basic story behind this movie is, I will say, there's something about it that's kind of original, which is, it's not just Mean Girls. It's not, the idea, the basic premise is that in high school, you're divided into these groups,

and so nobody can ever fully be themselves, because what it is to be themselves is to be more than one thing, which the high school hierarchy structure does not allow. Well, because they're running this high school like a prison, which is set up by John Voight. And that was hilarious, right? The fact that that was John Voight kept blowing my mind.

When he was vogueing at the end. Yes. Yeah, he's having fun. John Voight, like by the way, in a big fake nose. Yes, any ears. And ears? Yes, nose and ears fake. He, it was interesting,

because watching this movie in the beginning when you see the names pop up, I'm like, this is a movie that came out in 2007. I'm like, I should recognize. I should recognize. I should recognize a name or something. And the only first and only name really, I recognize was John Voight.

And then later, Kadeem Harrison, who was on different world. But that's even a deep pull. But I mean, I didn't recognize and still don't recognize. Yeah, they didn't, I don't know. I didn't, this is like a movie that was trying to launch a lot of a new talent. A lot of it.

It was also like, I have no, and again, I do think this is, I kept coming back to you like, oh, I think this is a movie made and marketed to children. So like, I don't, cause I was like, I similarly was like, oh, I don't have any reference point for this. I don't have any cultural awareness of this. I know the dolls more than I know that this movie exists, you know, but in a way, I was like, oh, but I think it was probably marketed towards like 10 and 11 year old. So like I, I don't think it was meant to be mean girls or have that kind of crossover big,

huge. I think it was like for kids and would play on like Nickelodeon or something, or I don't know, something like that. Or HBO GO. Or HBO GO. Where I found it. Same. Oh, I didn't realize that I bought it. You do.

That says everything. It was $7.99. Wow. Yeah. And now you own it? I own that. I own that. I own brats.

It really does look pretty amazing. There's elephants in this movie. The clown stuff. Yep. Yeah. I paused the frame and I was like, yes. Yeah. This is a blind. This is a blind. The clothing, though, I'm surprised to hear it was released in 2007. I found the clothes to be so gross. Shocking. Shockingly tearable. Bells. The use of belts. Bells wear a never seen them before. Yeah, yeah. It was just hemlines and pants over skirts over.

Almost Renaissance or like, I feel like the costumes I don't like. Modern Renaissance flair. With like kind of where are they? We're creating our own look. It's like it's futuristic fashion. And you know that kind of like, well it does fashion that doesn't exist

so they could probably get it for cheaper because if they had to buy like name brand stuff they couldn't afford it. I feel this is not. I think it's like Shyrex. I think it's basically, I think if this had been made for teenagers, everybody would have dressed normally. But because they were marketing this movie towards kids,

they can't dress them up in like two revealing of things. Or I feel like they were overcorrecting in terms of, well, no, we're selling a message to very young people. And it can't be that everybody's dressed in like little things which is I feel like what a high school movie at that time would have been. Right.

Am I wrong? I don't know. So you think they made them more modest? Well, even see- Yes. Everybody's always wearing long sleeves. which is I feel like what a high school movie at that time would have been. Right. Am I wrong? I don't know. So you think they made them more modest? Yes. Everybody's always wearing long sleeves. Yeah, that's true. It's super weird.

Everyone is always wearing sleeves and long pants and it's like nobody, like the the the racy as it gets is cheerleading uniforms, frankly, you know. All right, come down. Which I was very into it. I want to talk about the cheerleaders dad because he's very sexy. No, no, no. That cheerleaders dad can be important.

And this morning, clown. No, no, no. Clowns, how did you do? I did, right. You know, they're late. Jason has a fear of clowns. Hey, less a fear of clowns. And just like, it brings back a real trauma in my life

when there were clowns driving around my hometown, trying to lure kids into a van with candy. I'd be that to pull. Nobody believed me. And then there were multiple news reports that said it was true. Yeah, well, there's news reports that they're happening now.

Maybe you spurned it. Are you saying this podcast? Yeah. It started the new resurgence of clowns at the same time. Yeah, I'd be like, clowns away. Yeah, that's a vote of confidence in this podcast started the new resurgence of clowns? Yeah, I'd be like, by the way, that's a vote of confidence in this podcast. That speaks to our reach. This is what I love about movies like this because you can go there. I do agree that the moral of this movie is strong, right?

It's like, you can be many things. You can be a fashion designer and this amazing science mind who can mix two chemicals and make a fireworks display in the lab. That was like a Harry Potter. Yeah, that was. And it went for too long, just by like four seconds. Yeah. It's a hand cut.

And then, yeah. Well, yeah, like that was, and that's where, but the dad in the movie, when you're first introduced to the cheerleaders, dad, he's in the kitchen tight on a toaster and he's trying to get the bread in the toaster and he's like, ah, I can't, ah, and she comes over and she's like, boom, and she hits it. And he's like, oh, what would I do without you?

That is a problem that no one has. Like that's not a, like I can understand a dad going, I don't know emojis or a toaster. Like now that he's divorced, he can't do anything. It just seemed like later that he's playing chess alone. Yeah, that was sad. I was like, I feel bad for him.

He like, when she goes to college, he's gonna die. I didn't know what they were setting up there though. Like with that moment and the toaster and the chess moment because I do think there is that storyline. We've seen before where like divorce dad or widow dad tries to make the teenage girl like the surrogate wife. Right. Dan Acroid, my stepmom at the alien.

Exactly. But was that what was happening? They also set up the story that the parents are so hostile to each other and yet the mom walked in and she seemed and they shared a smile. Perfectly pleasant. Yeah. But then like, she said. Perfectly pleasant.

She said something like this. She said, um, and remind your father that you have a dentist appointment on Thursday and then he was like, ugh. Like, again, you're giving me this again, but it was, it was an, it was an inappropriate response to that thing. It would have been like, until your father to father to, you know, pay the mortgage. Or what I, you know, it's like, but she's like, and remind your dad

about the dentist's point. He's like, ugh, woman. I don't know what that is. They were trying, maybe it got cut. They were trying to set up these stories where the parents were learning alongside the children. A lot was cut. Everybody.

You could see all the floor. You could feel the cut off. And that may have been the crossover elements that would have elevated brats to you. I'm curious as a brats owner, Paul, is there deleted scenes as part of your purchase? There is a DVD commentary, which I got a couple notes on here. Like a legitimate gas from God. That's how I knew that John Void is wearing a prosthetic nose and ears.

Wait, you didn't know that from just looking at his nose? Well, I knew the nose was definitely weird, but I didn't know the ears. I knew you were wearing a prosthetic nose. I don't know, my best guess is, my best guess is so that people might not recognize it. So I've seen it like that. That's what I caught.

That's what I caught. That's so strange. The That's what I caught. That's what I caught. That's what I caught. That's what I caught. That's what I caught. That's what I caught. That's what I caught. That's what I caught. That's what I caught.

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That's what I caught. That's what I caught. That's what I caught. That's what I caught. That's what I caught. That's what I caught. That's what I caught. That's what I separated. This is the Annie Hall. And this is like L.A. later Hall. It's a love letter to the Los Angeles, the city of dreams. And that's, and I will continue this Annie Hall thing

and say that's where it's some of the comedy. It's like, there's some big moments. There are these, you know, these kind of, you know, larger than life moments. Here's my question. My other thing, the other thing that I was obsessed with watching this movie was that there is never

More than ten lines of dialogue spoken in a row before a song starts playing Oh, yeah, and oftentimes that song is then abruptly ushered out any new song starts sometimes a song only plays for like a verse And then it turns into another song. I like, this is so heavily soundtracked, this movie, that I felt as though I was losing my mind. Well, I'll also argue that this movie builds to a singing performance from the brats, but they are not established, like in a weird way,

I would have liked the movie to start as, they're in a band, or they like sing together. And then they go their separate ways, and then they come back, and they show everyone what they got. I love this. We've been a huge script note. He did that.

Just show me where they get this. But we'd have to understand. The only one, he has been wants to be a singer, but we never see her sing, she's too shy to sing. And so she doesn't sing until an hour into the movie. Yes. And the only person that sees her sing is a deaf, we have to talk about the deaf boy.

That's what happened for an hour. We have to talk about the deaf boy. Well, this is, this is like, this is the kind of movie where even everybody triumphs. Even the deaf boy can hear basically. He's hot. He's so hot. This is when she meets him here.

Take a listen. What's for your calling? Are you blind? Hello. Close up on her mouth. Yeah. What? I'm deaf. You don't sound deaf.

Well, you don't look ignorant, but I guess you can't judge a book, right? A boom. And that is the introduction of our only love interest in the film. Oh, I don't think so. Oh, right. There's Jay, is he in the science club or is he?

No, he's- He's other love interest. There's that guy who's amazing, Derek, who ends up doing stand-up comedy. Yes, yes, yes. Yes, but brilliant actor. And also the boy, Meredith's boyfriend goes with Chloe. Well, yes, because married his boyfriend, when they're in the grove,

like they seem across the way, and I would say this is a note that I would give in a movie that is actually well directed, he glances. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha, oh, it's so quick, and he's checking you out. He didn't seem to me checking her out. He seemed to like, the land is- We need the deaf boy.

Yeah. Oh, that the deaf boy, that was the, I was confused by all these faces. I will say, I had a white guy face blindness. I had a white guy face blindness. I had a white girl face blindness. You had a rat's blindness. I was just kidding. I was I did. I had a guy face blindness. I had a white girl face blindness. You had a brats blindness.

What is this gonna be? What is this gonna be? Did anyone else think that when she first, when Chloe first walked into the house that the mom was dead? It was. Yes. Yes.

I did. I thought, oh wow. She's like mom. Mom and the mom is on the line dead on the couch. I assumed she was dead. I thought it was alcohol. Here we go, brats. Yeah.

Because then the way she came out of her main, and she's like, I wonder if it's supposed to be that. I wonder if it's supposed to be that, but they can't do it. Because I do think, again, I don't think they can indulge in any of the harsher storylines of any of this, because it's for 10-year-olds. And my question is, so Chloe ends up, they win the challenge of, for her.

For her. So Chloe ends up, they decide as a group that Chloe is going to be the recipient of the money from the scholarship. Well, first of all, they decide that there's a time, when there's a tie, one person gets the trophy and the other person gets the full scholarship to college. Of your choice, any college that's going to be the choice, it doesn't matter if you get it or not. Like, that's really, really messed up. Your choice to any color. It doesn't matter if you get it or not. That's right. That's the same.

That's a really, really messed up. That seems crazy. Okay, but Chloe could, I would say arguably, as the best chance of a scholarship on her own, because she's a very good soccer player. Yeah, that's what I wrote down too. She, that's a soccer scholarship. I know, making, yeah.

I don't think you'd color a soccer whiz. She's the key to the real job. June was a soccer whiz, weren't you? I know, making, yeah. I don't think you'd call her a soccer whiz. Well, June was a real joe. June was a soccer whiz, weren't you? I was, so I was right now. Oh, it's so that's what you called it. You're making my sister's gay, man. Yeah. June traveled around Long Island, did I?

Oh, I believe it. That's right. When we got married, her dad referenced the great victories of June's life and one of them was soccer. No, the whole speech was about soccer. Yeah, amazing. Wow. The entire speech was just like a list

of all of my stats. Yeah, literally embracing the stats. And this is after you've done a lot of successful work as an artist. Yeah, not mentioned. Yeah. When, when, oh, again, because I don't know any other names, when they do, and they're in that kitchen,

and she picks up that, she's like, oh, you guys are angels, then she picks up a doughnut and puts it not over her head like a halo, kind of like up, like almost like you would put like an ice pack on your head like all them hung over. It's like, it was odd, I don't know why, but anyway, we were talking about that. But when we were boys, Dad.

Dead? That's not okay. We don't know here. I don't talk about but wait, we were talking about dad Dead that's not okay. We don't know I don't talk about Wow, I mean look it speaks very loudly, but it is unspoken I don't know it seemed really taboo. It seems like her mother's alcoholism drove him away I think maybe she killed him maybe the mom killed him. Maybe the mom killed him. I think they did a lot of work to show different family structures. I agree. Some children are raised by a grandparent, as is with the mother.

Some people, divorces an issue about the divorce. Was there the nuclear family? I don't think there were. And that's why the show is punk, the movie. Yeah, that is. It is. It's a very, this movie is pushing boundaries. Well, wait a minute. That's a good point. I would say Meredith. I'd have never, I never

saw Meredith's mom. Yeah, you don't you see that her parents at the talent show? But that is the principal. Oh, Meredith, I'm sorry. Now I'm doing that is the principal. Yes. We never hear about her mother. It is odd. There is the Asian biracial family. Yes. And they seem to be, she seems to be an only child, maybe? I was gonna say, yeah. They're a nuclear family, I guess. Yeah.

And they're very protective of her and her fashion. You know, she's, you know. Well, she also has successfully managed to have built a secret room in her, a back cave in her a back cave in her a fashion cave. A fashion cave. That would be impossible to have like a sliding door secret closet, but that's where I'm okay. You know, it's a bit of wish fulfillment

for kids who want that, like I get that, but also like, architecturally that would be impossible to put in a secret room. I will go. I will say to you. It is an odd it is an odd it is an odd choice for your four main characters to be so Dynamically great at everything. Oh, they're geniuses instantly. They're amazing at soccer. They're amazing at singing they're amazing at fashion They're amazing. They're science cooking. They, is not a single thing they can't do, except for keep friends. I mean, that's really, that's their only downfall.

But I thought that was odd, that there's not much for them. There's not, everybody's like a triple threat. Yeah. Everybody can do everything, because also many of the jocks, also like the deaf boy is also a big time Jock. Now, is he deaf because of an accident, did you say?

Yeah, I think because he's like, I miss music. So he's recently deaf. Well, I'm probably gonna say something very ignorant, but this is a big disclaimer because I think if he would have been born deaf, there's no way his voice would sound like that. No, yes, I think this is. Oh, you're fine.

I have a different. But why does he call her so ignorant? Because she says you don't sound like. No, yes, I think it's I think this is. Oh, you're fine. Why does he call her so ignorant? Because she says you don't sound deaf. Because he's like how dare you assume that I can hear based on the sound of my voice or there's a range of deaf experiences. Right. Yeah, he's saying that yeah, she doesn't, she's expecting him to do something that would be very stereotypical. And by the way, he does dip into what I can imagine would be called deaf voice by like an

acting coach. And you can see he's way, he does dip into what I can imagine would be called, Death Voice by like an acting coach. And you can see how he's feeling. He slips into it twice, barely. And then you can feel that we're like pull back. We don't want that. It was almost like, do one, do one as without any affectation. And let's just taste it. Here's the my favorite scene where the,

What does it mean he's signed? Where, well, the play does a little bit. What does he do? Go for it. This is when the music teacher, well, he does at one point. What does he do go for it go for it? Um, this is when when the music teacher Well, he did at one point when they say hummus or something or as she said Yeah, he's like I can't not that good But this is when the the music teacher finds them. I just like this

This is in playing the piano Dylan you've been holding out on it. Huh? All this time I put you just some cool jaw. Right? Nice music. I feel you, but you don't have to. What are you talking about? I can't hear.

Come here. Like, that's the music, but you're tired of this. Yes. I like it. Yay! You're getting out of my neck. This feels it on his neck. So he's a DJ who is feeling it all on his neck, which I didn't know that was a thing. I don't know, maybe it is a thing.

It's also a thing, apparently, that it is a... It's their phones. Yeah, but he feels the vibration. But could you, but based on vibration, are you gonna be able to be effective DJs, my question? Well, I think this brat is kind of tackling that question. Yeah, I feel like if anything, that's what this movie is about. Yeah, sound is vibration.

Yeah. Yeah. And it's just moving through the airwaves, connecting us all together. You okay, Kate? Yeah, we're the brats. We're the brats. I would like to pitch the four of us now to be in the next Brats movie.

Oh, I would love it. Like the Brats all grown up. Big Brats. Big Brats. Big Brats. Big Brats. Big Brats. I love Big Brats.

I love Big Brats. Brats vacation. I'm ready. So. Brats vacation is about people with different backgrounds doing different things. Big Brats. Not to be confused with big brats, which is what the movie were made.

That's our Chicago big movie. It's a movie where we all own a sausage factory. Right. We still have all the same issues, but we just deal with them different. And then the crossover movie, brats, verse, brats. And we'll be playing duplicates of ourselves. It's gonna be really fun.

I wanna talk about the food fight. Oh, I wanna talk about the food. By the way, why is everybody in the cafeteria eating a giant pasta? So much pasta. So much pasta. When the first pasta dump happens, it is as if a full boiling pot of pasta is poured on her.

Well, here's something from the- Disgustingly hot day too. Like, what? Why is everybody in the school eating giant bowls of pasta is poured on her. Well, here's something from the- Disgustingly hot day too. Like what? Why is everybody in the school eating giant bowls of pasta? I'm gonna just say that when the director and the commentary said, not enough spaghetti in that scene. No! Literally, you're kidding.

Not enough. Did not have enough spaghetti in that scene. Oh my God. But by the way, she wore that spaghetti better than, like, I was like, why- Well, she's the fashion one. She was on a spaghetti. When that's spaghetti, like, it landed on her

and it didn't like just fall off it. Like, stayed on her head like a mop almost like. There was also a stifled laugh. I don't know if I'm an else cottage. Oh no. No. Our, wow, what's her name? The lead.

Yes, me. Yes, me gets a fistful spaghetti and you can see her start to laugh. And I was like, cut. She's having a great time. Let's redo this. Take it again. See you at the end. That's too much.

This isn't much. She's using about those actresses. You know, I think what they ended up doing was casting dancers. You know, there's that whole, like, oh, she's a dancer, can act. She's an actor who can dance. This is like, yes. This is like, I think that they were all ultimately dancers and that kind of like Disney,

that's the year world that they tried, that they gave a movie to. Well, MTP doesn't lie. Look at the credits, absolutely. It was that I'm picking up. Yeah, no, the only one who really took off was the the bad girl Mary always do. Yeah, she was on a TV show That last for a hundred episodes. Here's an interesting thing about this movie

Paula Abdul was going to be the executive producer fashion designer and choreographer of this film But was fired looks like an adult brat. Yeah, and she's Brad She was fired over email and you can watch it on her TV series Hey Paula where she gets me now So what would this movie would have been if it was oh, we don't have to I wish I had the Paula get the call I've seen that moment guys guys I have an update. Yeah. Oh God. There are multiple brats movies Many of them starting these same girls. What? This is Brats the movie. There's one called brats for real. What is that wait? But are you saying that they are continuing? Maybe I'm looking there's a lot of brats cartoons maybe these okay Sorry, I might be wrong

yes yes yes yes yes me and also in switch did birth mm-hmm she also plays Gretchen and switch to birth on the ABC Family Show I'm just checking it out Jade was in Bratz for real the video game oh that's the idea so you guys are playing Bratz for real Sasha the woman who plays Sasha, she is one of the characters in Dear White People. I'm just now looking at,

Oh great. I'm just now looking at what they're doing. But for her, look, I don't know that it's their fault. Bratz for real. I think it's always tough to have younger actors. Oh, I think the Disney kids kind of, they're coming out of the Disney Channel stuff. I've seen it, I don't know why.

I have two. I have two or three. I have two. I'm sure they are. I need to get this Bratz for real video game. It's pretty amazing. I'm a little concerned, Paul, that you are purchasing all of the Bratz content. Shut up, Jason. Shut your mouth. It's fine. This is a movie and it's a movie show. I think they love it.

Check his browser history, Jim. Bratz, Bratz, Bratz. There, oh gosh, I want to also all the terrible songs were Written clearly written for this movie and all had like thematic lyrics that were like not at all subtext were just text like It would be like they would have a moment of making up and then the song would be like and all the songs were weirdly Chunky guitar rock and roll songs not songs these kids would listen to it. Oh, they weren't fun songs. They don't know. They'd be like jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga jugga Yes, I could not I just simply couldn't understand the lyrics of the Brat's last number which was a we're attitude of gratitude Brad it to

You want to hear some Brad it's Gladitude feel some gratitude. You know they were not probably Here go it's not a gratitude Feel some gratitude. You know they were not probably with that. No, that was gratitude. You're right gratitude. Here go It's not a gratitude I mean, I'm glad that they're rhyming with gratitude I thought I heard gratitude in there Bratitude Bratitude is just an attitude I say To say that it's okay, it's not a pletitude I think

Okay, so it's it's gratitude is not an attitude. It's not a pletitude to feel some gratitude Which I think is yeah, you have the latitude. I can't even look at you I couldn't really make like this is the song that's supposed to kind of harness their whole But it's very got bully like that's a godfully song. It's like right. It's not it You know, it's like it's very gothfully like that's a godfully song. I think right I was like it's not it You know, it's like and and vocals of 40-year-old women to Backup singer out of children. Yes, the end credits song that Yasmin sings is like oh I got that again here. Yeah We're supposed to believe that I got that again here ago That's

We're supposed to believe that that is Well, by the way they do a song at the end where then after the main song is over, they cut to this white room in a white piano. Oh, I didn't see this. Oh, yeah. One thing that you watch in the post-credits is, POP! What is happening? I want to just move you in one sitting from midnight to 1.50 in the morning last night. Yeah, up late at night, like a real purve, watching the brats moving.

The craziest part about it. Is he also watching with his mom last night? Yeah, I did watch with my mom. My mom's like, what is this? Oh, my. Well, you're going to have plenty to talk about on your podcast about this. She was like, how did this get me? I would love it if your mom was a guest on the podcast.

Yeah. It would be a lot of questions that you would be uncomfortable answering. Yeah. Do you think that they're attractive? I don't think so. It looks like she was hit by a bus. My mom is very critical of these young girls.

Yes. We're critical of women. Ah. Ah. How did this get me? How did this get me? How did this get me? So, the birthday party scene, I do want to point out when the MTV crew is there.

It's a guy. I, I, I only saw one guy with a camcorder. So, one guy with a camcorder with an MTV shirt, that was it. And then the producer, who comes up with the most fake ending of all time. It's the permanent or whatever. Yeah, who am I? Is that a real one talking about?

Yes, Duke Roman is a guy who put together the backfew boys and everything like that. Luke Roman? Luke Roman, sorry. Is that that person? No. No, I mean, this is what he does. Tuna mawish, in my guy. He comes up with this.

So I'm Mick Shavvy, vice president MTV Networks. He's like the lost buce of this guy. Networks, no. He's 16. And it's got the best numbersiest guy. Networks. No. He's got the best numbers today. You and the pool. Outrageous. My idea.

Smart girl. But you four girls. Whoa. You have got superstar written all over you. Wait, two. Oh, without question. Hey, we're having a movie premiere next Saturday night. How would you girls like to be the featured act on the red carpet? Fantastic

So that's that's how red carpets I've now I've never been to a, I haven't been to a million red carpets. I've been to a handful, more than a handful. Never seen a band on the red carpet ever. As the featured act. As the featured act. So that means there are other acts. I need to pull up just to show your faces because to see your faces on the final closing song of the Bratz movie

Just to see I just want to see what you guys oh the white is the right one is this so you can watch it again This is weird very really talented and I like supporting young artists who are really into whatever your gross man I think it is I am just served though that I looked up and this has like two stars, and I really feel like it deserves more. I think it's such an upsetting, such an exquisite misogyny in our culture. This was on Celebrator Mind. Well, this is the weird thing about Meredith.

I think you've lost your mind. I think this movie is so terrible. And I also think it's terrible because it's such a rip off of like the Meredith character, I'm so tired of seeing this girl in these movies. Like she has no redeeming qualities. And we also have like what does she want?

Ultimately, she's a power. She's a power. She's a power. But how does she experience power? Control. Control. I'll go down here, okay. Okay, all right.

So control over just knowing everybody's in their place because people openly do not like her. Right. And she and the first-age school, the come to her. That's scared of her. I have no idea what she's getting out of the order. She also is so involved in these things,

like she's running the talent show and stacking it purposefully with untalented people. Again, to win, and I could see her wanting to work scholarship. She wants to, I think she wants to, she basically is in control of the whole school. She's student body president, everybody goes through her, she decides where everybody sits.

She is, by the way, she rigid, she's rigid in keeping control of everything. She's gonna win the talent show, she's gonna have the best sweet 16, pappa, pappa. The existence of these four girls, as four girls from disparate groups who are forging a bond and a click of their own, like challenges her supremacy or her primacy as the rule maker,

order maker, order giver, and allows for people to say, well, then if they don't have to listen to her, we don't have to listen to her. And that means chaos. Well, but I want love. She wants love. And the brass threaten absolutely. She wants love. And the brass.

She's getting it from. Exactly, she's not getting it. And so the brass connection threatens her subjectivity. She's like, I have to break that up because that, the connection, they have to threaten my identity. So the only way I'm gonna maintain any power is if I divide up, there can them. Here's what's hard for me.

She's genuinely seemed to love herself though. Yeah, which honestly, and I think is a powerful, I was iPod. Well, I guess I do too, but it's, that's what's weird about the character is that if we saw that she was in pain over this situation she's gotten herself into, which is that she can't have any real connections and she's

set up the system in the school that she thinks is going to help her But there should be a certain amount of pain though that she experiences because of not having any real right French She also doesn't the brats does not go there like me girls beautifully does that. We see Regina sad. Yes The I'm not saying brats doesn't have limits. I'm not saying there aren't walls Okay, but I'm just saying was to say. I was blown away. Well, and then she wasn't really what of her blind drive. The only reason why those people, the reason why those people are even friends with her

is because she lords over them with this flash drive. And at the end, there's no comeuppance for her at all. Not at all. Because she still wins. Yes, she wins. I think ultimately, what we're supposed to take away is that that she would we know she's not winning because she doesn't have her crew of brats, but the well, I think it's about her. The one I'm surprised with in this movie is normally this person,

especially in a movie like this that's aimed at kids. Normally in this movie, that character would have a boyfriend or she has a boyfriend, the guy that ends up with kids. Normally in this movie, that character would have a... Boyfriend or... Well, she has a boyfriend, the guy that ends up with Chloe. But she doesn't really care about him. No, she doesn't care about anyone. She's like an associate. In the sense that she is all she doesn't want. She is like someone else to take her.

100% associate. Yeah, I think. She loves her dog, so it argues she's not an associate. She's a strong connection to Paris. The dog. True. Who drove this thing? Just like her and the director said

that was one of the coolest things that he thought. But she never has a moment. Classic film. I need to, the dog. True, true. That's his name. Just like her and the director said that was one of the coolest things that he found. But she never has a moment. Yeah, yeah. Classic film like, how do you think? She never has. She never has. She never has a moment where like, she learns her lesson or whatever. When we see her at the end of the movie, she and her dad are spying on the brats singing

in like, in like classic black hat, black turl, like, spy thief gear. Yeah. Which is, which is to, like spy thief gear. Which is to assume like, oh, she's truly a villain. And they're going to college. And they're going to college, like the wrong message to be sending, to me the message to send is like, oh, even the girl who is the villain or the enemy needs to be understood and needs to like figure herself out.

Of course, y'all, the monster inside of us. But she should have realized that she could become friends, like real friends with these people, and it would be okay. But that never happens. In fact, she's just turned it to an even more cartoonish villain. I feel like she should have had her confession moment.

Can I ask one question, why did the sweet 16 party back for her? It seemed like somebody fell into the pool, and then the next day they're like, oh, well, the clicks are back now. Yeah. It didn't seem like there was any connective tissue to why the clicks went immediately back into position

after they, I don't understand. You think that was one of the very few flaws in the screenwriting was that you're building to these two set pieces in the third act instead of just one. Yes, I, yeah. It's either going gonna be the sweet 16 or it's gonna be the talent show. Right.

And in this movie, it was sort of both and weirdly like neither of them had... And, and, and weird, but it odd because also it builds to this moment where everyone confesses. I'll just play this because this is also like, well, is that the point of this movie

that everyone has confessions? Like here we go. I Eve's dropped on my sister, and then I betrayed her. Yes, me. I'm very sorry. Most of my friends think I'm a tough jock, but I've been taking ballet since I was five. You know what?

I like it. I'm Bubby, and I am a chocolate. I'm Libby. The one that you didn't include, which is the most insane one. Everybody's admitting like secret, I'm secretly passionate about ballet, but I'm embarrassed or I love chocolate or whatever. There's a nerd kid who gets up and is like,

I cheated on my, all of my exams. I cheated on my, turn paper, I cheated on my friends. Like everybody else is like having a moment of revelation that is met with like acceptance by the crowd. This kid is going to be expelled for it. Immediately. Immediately they're gonna be like, you don't get to go to college.

His future is totally different. Yes, is the moral that like these people were, like these girls freed everyone in school from having different interests. Is that like them, is that what we're building to? Yes. You can be a nerd and you can be into fashion. You can be of this, okay.

Well, it's her monologue. She's like, I'm a science, I love science. But you know what, I also love fashion. Yes. And I thought that was exciting. By the way, that's a cool, yes. That's a cool story. Yes, you can still be femme presenting

and be interested in science. Yes. All right. How about the fact that no matter where they are, whether they're at the sweet 16 at school itself, which makes sense, but then anywhere else in the world, if you are a cheerleader or a jock or a member of the marching band, you only wear your uniform. Like, at the sweet 16, the cheerleaders are all wearing cheerleader uniforms. Like, well, the people who love dinosaurs have dinosaur lapel pins on and are dressed as dinosaurs sometimes

That's another section of people that were discriminated against in this school And they also like when they go over to her house. She's like, oh, we're just practicing but they're all in their full Yeah, they're always in their Children everybody's always wearing uniforms if their characters have them. Well, except for our girls. Like Jade will be with the, no, no, no, Sasha will be with the cheerleaders. She's wearing normal clothes,

and they're all only wearing uniforms. Yeah, that was weird when that the cheerleader came up to her at the end of captain saying, you know, we do want you on the team, but it's like, well, is she been auditioning for this team for two years? You would think. I mean, it seemed like her position was being

still trying out for two years. Still trying out years later. But that's the thing is like, everybody basically has a moment, every character, every brat has a moment where their chosen click comes up to them and is like, listen, we love you, you're great.

We want you on the team, we want you on the whatever. But if you don't hang out with us exclusively, you can't do it. That's what I wanted to know. That would not be allowed. What Yazan was doing in those two years, because she's the only one that didn't have a click. Yes, because she's too afraid to sing. So she's just what? But at one point because she is the only one that didn't have a click. Yes, because she's too afraid to sing.

So she's just what? But at one point she lays up a sign when she gets her invitation from Meredith in a balloon that popped. The sign says journalism. Yes. The easy way out is beyond the. Yes, journalism. Yes, journalism.

Well, she says she has a journalism thing earlier in the movie as well. She says those words. She says she has like something for journalism She does I remember it. I remember here gonna be like So that's what she was that those are the kids she was hanging out with She should have been breaking the story unmarried if what's going on? What they're taking the hard drive the dad the she's and she could have used it to her advantage digging up dirt being an investigative journalist she could be a real worry Gilmore

i i still want to talk about the the magician that clearly killed that girl in the box oh yeah he killed that girl and why was yesman's little brother at the sweet sixteen he's not good yeah okay why yet why did john void have a bodyguard leg of the house that's the vice principal with the vice principal yet

that was confused that was a vice principal that's a cast it he's like you're both yeah uh... obviously we had an opinion about this movie but there are people out there with a different opinion it is now time for second opinions. Not very nice To bad movies over which there's a shit ton

They're my greed and needy I could eat Will not survive It's time for a second of being here All your quite funny P I'm screaming on stage What you got a few black marks on your own wiki page Bad films are released in wave after wave Don't act like you've never been in work We all saw your shoulder on screen in mid days.

It's time for a second of painting. All right, these are five star reviews called from Amazon. These people love Brats. And you know what, I think they're in Kate's Camp here. This is written by Cool Kid 363. This movie delivers important messages every preteen should understand before heading to high school.

Friendship is important, how to stand up for yourself. Plus, most preteens would enjoy this movie as many are excited to head into high school and the movie gives them an insight of what high school is really like. And let's face it, it's impossible for a movie to give perfect insight of what high school and the movie gives them an insight of what high school is really like. And let's face it, it's impossible for a movie to give perfect insight of what high school is really like. Oh boy.

Fair, fair, fair. I think that's fair. Yeah. You know. These are, yeah, these are a little bit different than we normally get. This is a good one. Okay, this is from Melanie Step. The language amounts to about five or six uses of God's name,

but no more. Few times the characters expose a little belly, and there are a few short skirts. Meredith wears the most revealing out of all the characters. Who cares how dare you? But the clothing is mostly very layered and modest, vastly different from the doll counterparts. Fashion and shopping and beauty are emphasized

a little too heavily, but it's all fun. And I'm not trying to look too sexy. Jade does lie to her parents, but she later apologizes. Aggressive shopping is shown in a not good light. I mean, do we really wanna be jerking belts from other people's hands and playing a tug of war until one person goes flying? Well, the camera's there, we do.

Overall, it's an extremely enjoyable movie that I wanna watch again, despite myself, five stars. Oh my God, I would not give it the big five. So, yeah, no, from that. I know, from that. I know, from that, yeah. I know, from that, yeah. I know, from that, yeah.

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What? By the way, Kate, you can come over my house anytime and watch it, I own it. It is. It is, is weirder. And this is weird getting weird. By the way, I do think that if Paul Abdul did get behind this movie, there would be, it would have ratcheted this movie up.

Fasten the dancing hole. I also think unlike many of the movies we do, I will judge this less harshly because it is a movie made for children. You're like in a way that even though we've tackled other like, like, movie and like terrible, this like there was something about it which I felt like it couldn't be as sharp.

It had to be dulled or whatever because of its intended audience. It's intended audience. In some ways I feel the exact opposite. Yeah. Which is that the media is made for children are so important. It should be held to a higher standard. Yeah, it should be held to a higher standard.

Well, I'll tell you that Roy wrote on January 25th this product was delivered on time my daughter loves this movie I bought it for her and she's a grown woman need I say more five stars Rose weird and then and then finally we end with cool cat Who says I thought it was pretty good compared to those other stupid movies that came out this year like knocked up what yeah If you love the brats, I would say get this it is not overrated They didn't show any cleavage They didn't show any cleavage It's like I was starting to laugh at the fact that this guy is pervose

It isn't overrated I like that this guy is perv of something. I just started to laugh at it. It isn't overrated. Are you laughing to cover the fact that you wrote this? I would ever. I'm gonna paint that in the evening. I'm gonna paint that in the evening. Paul, are you Roy? It isn't overrated.

They didn't show any cleavage and it was enjoyable for all audiences. I can't think of a movie that is better than it. Wow. It is definitely better than SpongeBob, and I wasted my money on that five-star. Jesus. Wow.

I mean, yeah, more cleavage for sure, in this movie, Roy, AKA Paul Sheer. Yeah. Um, I was, I also felt like the girls got a bum rap for breaking that bust. I feel like whoever put that bust on it. They didn't solder a death. That was very bad.

Did you guys notice that during the food fight, they were at a certain point, just cream pies on the ground. People started picking up and throwing at each other. They're just were cream pies. They bend down and pick up cream pies and start mushing them into each other's faces during the food fight. I was like, why are those just there on the ground like intense?

Yeah, hey magic. I always felt in the middle school in high school a little scared of food fight was gonna break out like it's really There's so many food fights in like teen movies and kids movies I always like felt like I was living under the fear that any moment someone was gonna throw You know our parents lived under the fear that any moment someone was gonna throw, you know, a certain kind of thing. Our parents lived under the fear that there was gonna be like an atomic bomb. And we had food fight. We would do a terrible thing in my cafeteria where you would, like, say someone was sitting down and it could be anybody.

It wouldn't just be a nerd thing it would be. And if you pulled the seat out from underneath them and they fell on the ground, the entire cafeteria would start chanting, dick, dick, dick, dick, and it would be like a hundred or something, people just all, shit. Of course, me, yeah. I mean, and by the way, the worst moment that happened here was there was a football player was on crutches one time.

And he was pushed backwards and his crutch broke the window and he fell out the window into a courtyard it was the same level courtyard felt the window and the whole character is like dick dick dick as this man is falling through the cruelty of children that's terrifying and I thought it and it was so fun to everyone be part of the game because you could yell dick and you work it. It was in a Catholic school. You couldn't get in trouble and everyone's screaming dick and the brothers couldn't control it.

But now thinking about that young man never happened to me. Thank God. Thank God. It still might. And me and me. And me here at the ear wolf campus. No, no. No. Yeah, no.

Yeah, yeah, we did this pretty fucked up stuff in my school. We dumped a kid in a garbage can head first. All right, babe. We used to, for our marching band initiation, we would pick up the freshman. This is the nerds against nerds. And there was like a big huge industrial sink in the band room. And you would, you would spend first We would fill up the sink like halfway and then you would get dunked in the sink basically that was your initiation

It was very fun. Yeah, that seems so very innocuous. Oh, it was very innocuous So basically you like were wet for the next period. That's okay. Yeah Paul. Oh, sorry. You know what, man? I know you got breaths on the brain with their with their busty cleavage. Yeah, yeah, yeah, if we're going to cleavage there. Well, let's just go around the war here. Jason, do you recommend the movie? I don't really. I

mean, it is this is this is, I mean, listen, if my nieces were like, we're going to watch the brats. I'd be like, oh, okay. I mean, listen, if my nieces were like, we're gonna watch the brats, I'd be like, oh, okay, I mean, I'd rather you watch something a little better, but that's what I mean. Like, on a message level, it's all about, it's all about being friends, staying friends, looking out for each other, being generous to people, being kind, having each other's back,

looking at it like it's all, it has all the right messaging for I'm sure the little girls that are the intended audience, but as a movie, it is just kind of boring, you know, like it really is, and it is the level of intrusive song placement is maddening. It's distracting. It is aggressive. It's distracting the brats.

Oh yeah, I want, you know, I want to focus on these brats. I'm not the way that Paul does. Hey, I like these girls. Kate, what would you say? I would say, I would say brats, it can't help but escape. It does not succeed in escaping kind of the trappings that you might expect from a film like this. And at times they are offensive.

And not a bad thing. Stereotypical. Right. However, I would say that it's well directed. I truly feel that way. And I think it's visually, again, shot on film. And I think you've got to appreciate that, by the way. That's something that we got.

A lot of these movies, we don't give it enough credit. It was shot on film. Yeah, we've got some cool shots. Oh, it feels big. It feels big. They have an elephant in this room. You're too ambitious and I recommend it. I'm like a family ski trip when everyone's asleep. I've never gone skiing with anyone. That's the only parameters in which you would recommend watching it.

Everyone's a ski captain. Everyone's a ski captain. Like what brass? Exactly. I don't want to do a puzzle of a boat. Yeah. You're just like, what are you talking about? I wonder if people are not wealthy enough to ski. So, because it's an expensive sport. Again, never about skiing as a challenge. So I feel like it's a ski oriented. I wonder if people, I'm curious in the same way,

if people in our audience, the young people that is, are gonna feel about this movie the way that other people felt about when we did Spice World and felt like this is preposterous. And people were like, what are you talking about? This is my life. people felt about when we did Spice World and felt like this is Propostor and people were like what are you talking about this is my life right now I don't think so I think Spice World is more our Generation no that's what I mean yeah, but I don't think we have listeners who are pretty see brats Yeah, but listeners. I want to hear it. Did you did you go see that? If you don't do a segment, they were 10. Yeah, which means that now they're 20. They're 20, okay. Maybe they're listening. Yep. Listen 20 year olds.

If you're out there and you're listening to this show, let us know. Did this movie mean something to you? Yeah, their girls who grew up being like, I'm a Jade. I'm a gasman. I'm like like, like, nobody else's like, I'm Samantha. I'm a liar. I mean, I think what yes, man. I'm like, like, everybody else is like, I'm Samantha Moraya. I mean, I think what we are missing in our reading of this movie is the whole, the more of the source material. I think we only know the problem. We gotta go back to the source. No, no, no, no, no.

We gotta go back to the source. I think there's more. Now, we don't know. But you as a, that's actually, that reminds me of a great thing. Guys, as you know, we are launching a lot of other podcasts built off of this podcast Bitch, Sash came out of out of our feed. Welcome to the broadcast. We're here. We're talking nothing but rats. We're gonna we're gonna get into the cartoons the video game. Nothing but rats. I want to talk about the brats because we got that gratitude and you know, here we are. It's just it's just us

Yasmin Sasha Jade and Chloe here talking brats with you. I do think though, there's more, there's another way to experience this movie and I don't think any of us were able to really enjoy it. Enjoy it because I think like we probably would have known more about their families and what happened to Chloe's dad. Yeah. All of that stuff just we know. What happened to Chloe's dad. Yeah. All of that stuff just we know.

What happened to Chloe's dad? We got to know him. I bet it's in the books. As he left the family. Oh, abandoned them. Yeah, I think it was a death. I think it was like he left the family and we have no money. And there's an important gap out there.

I gotta say, June, it's like, especially with that movie, It Coming Out. It's so hard to adapt a piece of source material into a feature film and get everything right, dark towers having that issue. You know what I think, I was suggesting that this is a Stephen King property. I'm just saying that, you know,

like they didn't have clowns in it, like. You know, yeah, look, I'm just saying. It would be amazing if it was like the floor of the Stephen King world. And anyways, thinner is, there there's elements of thinner in here. Lawn more man. Yeah, it's a lot, all I'm saying is, it's so hard to bring everything that you know from an action figure, ten-inch action figure, and be able to put that in a movie.

It's a lot, I mean, like the first Harry Potter movie was so hard to get all that in there. You know, and this is an action figure, that's a bigger than most of it. Ten inches, a 35-millimeter baby. That's great. Yeah. June, you know, and this is an action figure. That's a bigger than most of it. Ten inches, a 35 millimeters baby. Yeah. Yeah. June, you recommended her, no? Um, I, I, I, I, no, no, I couldn't ever. No, no, I didn't enjoy it. And I went in actually when I saw that we were watching Bratz,

I was excited. So I also went in, I was excited. It's not like a sci-fi movie or I felt like it was in a genre that I could definitely stomach and I was excited. It's not like a sci-fi movie or I felt like it was in a genre that I could definitely stomach and I was disappointed. And I, you know, I say buy this. It's $7.99. It's a steal. You know, you're gonna rent this and be four bucks. It's like, you know, don't worry about it. Support the brass.

I feel like someone get back $20 million but you should be able to buy this really. Brass, Brass, Bradatube, Bradat, Bradatube. That makes sense why you're wearing that crap talk t-shirt Whatever I think it's fun and it's nice and it's hot out Kate talk to us about what you're doing We know you have this great Vimeo series 555. Oh, thank you that you can get cheaply It's a it's not an expensive but read less than Brad's folks 99 less than Brad to get five episodes

starring myself and John early directed by Andy D. Young And it's it's really funny. You have to go to video dot com to get it. That's that's it. That's what people you know If you get scared just Google Vimeo Cape Berlin John or me find it. Yeah, yeah Anything else anything else you want to talk about? No, anybody. No, I'm good. Jim I would just suggest for those listeners who are activists minded, there's two great things you can check out. Five calls, which is an app you can download and resist bot, which makes it really easy

to call and contact your representative. I actually just use that. It's great. It sends a fax right to your representative. You write it on your text and it goes right there. It's really just a bot. I am a senator. Oh wow. I was gonna say that here.

But I have involved. I like it. So write to me and we're gonna do it. Great. Are we sure they all have fixes? Fixings like outmoded. Yeah you want to get all the facts. It's actually just as sweet.

It's actually more of a call. Because it was so much paper. It's like, I guess. You want to inconvenience these people. Trust me me when my Cherry brings me a stack of taxes. I go okay. I'll read the bill again I appreciate you taking some of the time out of your schedule to watch this movie because you're probably in that office people knocking on that door and I got home in my husband said are you kidding and I said put the briefs

He's a lawyer put the briefs down I do say he was a lawyer, because I would have thought he's underwear. Put the briefs down, put the Bradson. I said put the Bradson, we're gonna have fun. He loves it, I loved it, we had fun. Just a reminder to sign up for our mailing list. You can find that on our Facebook page and our Twitter page. That's the show, but it doesn't end here.

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