How Did This Get Made? - Matinee Monday: Demolition Man LIVE! (w/ Wyatt Cenac)

Episode Date: February 19, 2024

Recorded LIVE at SubCulture in New York, Wyatt Cenac joins us as we dive into the futuristic world of Demolition Man! We discuss the frozen Sylvester Stallone cube, the slang of the future, the possib...ility that Wesley Snipes improvised every one of his lines, Denis Leary’s rant, and seashell wiping. Get ready for some spot on Stallone/Snipes impressions! (Originally Released 07/09/2013) UPCOMING TOUR DATES IN: Belfast, Dublin, Glasgow, & London! Go to hdtgm.com for tix and info.Pre-Order Paul’s book about his childhood, Joyful Recollections of Trauma, wherever books are soldFor extra Matinee Monday content, visit Paul's YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheerHDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheerFollow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer/Check out Paul and Rob Huebel live on Twitch (www.twitch.tv/friendzone) every Thursday 8-10pm ESTSubscribe to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson here: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael here: www.thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcastCheck out The Jane Club over at www.janeclub.comCheck out new HDTGM merch over at https://www.teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmWhere to find Jason, June & Paul:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on Twitter

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Now it's time for... Life is for me Gonna have a good time Celebrate a failure Not just be the leader Cause you know you wonder How does this work? Let's all win the mediocrity of sub-par arts
Starting point is 00:00:14 Perhaps we'll find the answer To the question How did this get made? Hello people of Earth! CHEERING Wow, what a crowd! Hello New York! We are live at South Culture. We're in a beautiful space here on Bleecker Street.
Starting point is 00:00:30 We have an amazing show for you, but first, let me introduce my two co-hosts. Please welcome, June Diane Rapio! And, Jake Dill! And, Jake Dill! And, And Jason Manzuga!
Starting point is 00:00:47 Very special guest here tonight, we've got a Wyatt Sennach! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!
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Starting point is 00:01:20 Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! in 1993 posits a world that in 1996, shit has gone terribly wrong. She's just, the opening of this movie,
Starting point is 00:01:32 this is like a weird cliche that bugs me, it's like the Hollywood sign is just on fire? Oh yeah. And it feels to me like the filmmaker's like, oh yeah, it's always on fire. It's not like that was just a- Yeah, because there wasn't like a fire in the hills. Like nothing else around it was on fire.
Starting point is 00:01:49 Like just the letters. Just the letters. Yeah. Well, I feel like every year, at least when I lived in LA, there was always, this is the year that the Hollywood sign is going to be torn down and people would fight to save it. And it's like, if you watch all these movies, no, nobody wants it.
Starting point is 00:02:04 No. Nobody wants it. Let it go. if you watch all these movies, no, nobody wants it. No. Nobody wants it. Let it go, let it go. Yeah, these, clearly these politicians are like, no, I've seen Demolition Man in like 800 other movies where the sign gets burned down. You guys don't want it, we get the message. We hear you.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Also, why are our politicians watching Demolition Man? Most of the best politics that happened in the 80s, most of Clinton's administration was in Alfa. Sylvester Stallone, Joe Silver. Almost all of Antonio Villargoza's campaign promises were from Demolition Man. Prop 8 was Demolition Man. Guys, Prop 8 is dead.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Yeah. Yeah. Right? And you know why? Because the demolition man came in and destroyed it. Lid it on fire. I thought that Doma was like demolition man. I don't know what the O stands for,
Starting point is 00:02:54 but the D and the M is like demolition man. Absolutely. So in 1996, things are bad. So bad that one of the airline, one of the helicopter police pilots goes like, hey, remember when they used to let commercial airlines land in Los Angeles? Like that, what about when the city was on fire?
Starting point is 00:03:15 Like that's the one thing he's regretting, like, oh man, remember that, when commercial airlines would land here. Like that's a weird thing, all right. I thought it was weird. airlines would land here. That's a weird thing. All right. Well, by the way, in that first scene when Stallone throws a rope down and just shimmies down to the ground. It is a shimmy. He jumps out of the back of a helicopter and yells with an egg.
Starting point is 00:03:40 First days that you started yelling his name. He says, send a maniac to catch one. Then he jumps out screaming Phoenix. Phoenix, I'm sky fucking you. At this point in the movie though, you don't really know who Phoenix is, like where Phoenix is. So to just see him yelling, screaming Phoenix. Well that is like the problem at the beginning
Starting point is 00:04:12 of this movie, which is he runs out, he does like basically the world's best bungee jump and then immediately goes into killing mode. Like before you land, like whoa! Bam, bam, bam, bam. That's the thing is he bungees out and he never goes back up. He bungees out to the ground and is like, quick, quick.
Starting point is 00:04:29 He just jumped like half a mile. He lands and misses no one and then proceeds to have a mental knowledge of this abandoned warehouse as if he has studied it his entire life. It was like, oh yeah, it's like going to mom's house. I know that. Like, and meanwhile, it's revealed that, like, he's been chasing Phoenix for two years
Starting point is 00:04:54 and he finally found this place. So this is the first time, there's no recon on this building. No, no. He lands on the ground, shoots everybody, and as if he is like has the map in his head goes like buh buh buh buh buh buh and like Wesley Snipes is like buh buh buh buh buh
Starting point is 00:05:10 wait what and it's still on his like ah I'm here now I got you and I was like at what point is Wesley Snipes not like there were like 400 dudes that I feel like should be guarding me but you got through all of them instantly. Basically the beginning of Demolition Man is the end of an awesome movie that we did not see. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:29 And I want to see the two years where like Wesley Snipes moves to LA, then somehow works his way up in the LA, like Underworld. His family is murdered and so having nothing to live for, he takes to a life of crime. Then he builds a wall all around LA, sets shit on fire. He goes to that beauty shop, gets his hair dyed blonde.
Starting point is 00:05:55 One of my favorite moments, too, is like, he's like, where are those people on the bus? And he's like, and where's his place? Oh, guess what? Snape says Kidnapped has abducted a bus full of regular people. And he's like, I what's his name? Oh, guess what? Snape says kidnapped, has abducted a bus full of regular people. And he's like, I told those bus drivers, don't come into LA, but those bus drivers won't listen. It's like, that is their job.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Your beef is with the bus drivers of Los Angeles? And by the way, they're just doing their job, guys. Yeah. They are just shepherding us from place to place in the most humiliating vehicle known to man. These bus drivers, like that's Wesley Snipes' anger. He talks so vehemently about these bus drivers, like they can't come in here.
Starting point is 00:06:36 It's like, why? What, like they're not threatening your drug empire. They're just dropping people off. I don't know why they would even want to be dropped off in a city that is on fire. But if they want to, they're just dropping people off. I don't know why they would even want to be dropped off in a city that is on fire, but if they want to, they're doing the job. Also, he's a guy, he's clearly wasteful, because very early on, you see him do one line of coke,
Starting point is 00:06:55 but leave two behind. Just like, these are fine, I'm gonna come back to you guys. When I'm ready. Yeah. You don'm ready. Yeah. You don't go stale. How about this? At a certain point when Stallone is entering
Starting point is 00:07:11 and Wesley Snipes realizes Stallone is gonna enter, he punctures these gasoline tanks, so there's gasoline all over the ground, right? And so Stallone comes in and he's like, I got you, or whatever he says, right? Whatever he says, he relaxes everybody, relax. And then Wesley Snipes is like, ha, ha, you're standing in gasoline, lights a cigarette,
Starting point is 00:07:33 and then says, what does he say? Something about like you're going to go up in flames or whatever, someone liner, then he. Oh, he says it's cold in here. Oh yeah, let's turn up the heat or something. Okay, throws the cigarette, flanks erupt everywhere. Okay? But he's also standing in flames. Yes, okay, so up the heat or something. Yeah, yeah. Okay, throw us the cigarette. Flames erupt everywhere, okay? But he's also standing in flames. Yes, okay, so he's standing in gasoline.
Starting point is 00:07:49 So flames are like, all Stallone does. The only thing that happens to Stallone is he drops his gun. He's like, oh, that's hot. Oh, the steel got so hot in my hand. Oh, God. But then he just jumps right out of it, jumps onto us, nobody's on God. But then he just jumps right out of it, jumps onto us. They're fighting. Nobody's on fire.
Starting point is 00:08:06 But I'm confused. Did the gun get caught in the flames and then got too hot to hold? Or did he just get scared and throw that gun down? Because that's what it looked like. I hope it's beat. Woo! Woo!
Starting point is 00:08:22 It looked like he just freaked. There's a lot. That's what you don't see when he's in the helicopter flying past the Hollywood sign burning, is that he's like, oh, can't look, can't look, can't look, can't look. Tell me when we pass the fire sign. Tell me when we pass the fire sign.
Starting point is 00:08:37 I would love it if in this movie there was a thread that is like fire is his snakes to Indiana Jones. Why did it have to be fire? He's part Frankenstein monster and he's afraid of fire. The lunch move is basically like a football player's tackle. It's just sort of like, I just lunges at a guy. He has guns and he has knives on him, but it's just a tackle.
Starting point is 00:09:02 But he also, I realized like he does a lot in that movie of the sideways jump and shoot action. Yeah. Before John Woo, it's like it was John Woo. But that it seems like for the 90s, like the three point stance thing that we see in movies now was that's what it used to be. I think you're right.
Starting point is 00:09:20 It was like the sideways, like, kooch, kooch, kooch. One leg up. Yeah. The one thing I remember about this movie most clearly, and it's not even about the actual movie, is I used to go to Planet Hollywood all the time, under the guys. Like, I would be like, dad, take me to Planet Hollywood,
Starting point is 00:09:37 that's where the celebrities hang out. What? I would, I was mighty. But I also met Anthony Michael Hall, so I was also right. Oh, jokes on us, jokes on us. Nice. I thought you said celebrities. It was pre-Demolition.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Yeah, that's right. I'm starting to beef with Anthony Michael Hall. And I remember always wanting to eat under the naked Stallone demolition maker. He gets frozen in this movie and there's a block of ice, but it's kind of just naked Stallone. Ugh!
Starting point is 00:10:14 Really, and I just thought that was so cool. I was like, whoa, it's like he's in there. Wait, and that was at Planet Hollywood? Yes, a big, giant, like six by eight foot circle with a Stallone dummy inside. a big, like, giant, like, six-by-eight-foot circle with, like, a Stallone dummy inside. You know what they should have done is they should have had a table that was that. Oh, that's good.
Starting point is 00:10:32 You should have been able to use that as a table. And then when you eat your fries, you can see his junk. They go, oh, I got it, I got it. I have a feeling that there is someone who has that now and it is a table. Oh, yeah. It is. That would be the best table of all time. Guys, let's all chip now and it is a table. Oh yeah. It is. That would be the best table of all time.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Guys, let's all chip in and get one of those. Well, because once Planet Hollywood shut down, all that shit had to go somewhere. Yeah, someone had a Biaxelfolis jacket. Yeah, I'm sure that they weren't like, hey, so Planet Hollywood shutting down Smithsonian. You guys, you guys want Stallone in ice? You guys want a bunch of garbage?
Starting point is 00:11:08 Yeah. I mean, we're loading it up on the truck and driving it down to you guys. We were just giving you a heads up to move the Millennium Falcon. There's a great line at the beginning of the movie said by the police chief in Leave a Weapon, who like, after he like, he captures Phoenix
Starting point is 00:11:26 and he was like, hey, enough of this demolition man shit. Like that's the Lones MO that he just demolishes stuff? Well, very weak. Keep this in mind, okay? In the opening of this movie, upon capturing Phoenix, the entire building both explodes and crumbles to the ground.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Like in seconds. But oh, and they get away. And they walk out of that. But if you were to understand why, it was because Buzzard's eyes punctured a couple cans of gasoline. Yes. Well, I thought it was also like a chemical factory guys.
Starting point is 00:12:05 All right, maybe it was that that brings up something I really want to talk about which is the events of September 11th. Oh brother. Well, here's the crazy thing. Salon goes to jail because the hostages were in the building, but nobody thinks to ask like, wait, did they die now? Like, did they die from this explosion or were they shot in the head? Because we learned later on that they wore jets. Major spoiler alert. Major spoilers.
Starting point is 00:12:31 They had been killed by Phoenix. But by the way, a very harsh sentence for a police officer capturing the world, the world's worst criminal. Yeah, that guy started the fire. All he did was knock him out of the window and he's like, all you're under arrest. Why?
Starting point is 00:12:50 He made a tough call. He made a tough call. But it would be like, in my opinion, it would be like if Stallone said, fuck it, we'll blow up that building. Then it would be a tough call. Wasn't Snipes flip the building? He just escaped.
Starting point is 00:13:03 And I love, you're going to jail, wait, I love that you have injustice. You have a sense of like, there is an injustice at the center of this movie. An American hero is tried and sentenced to jail. He is the only man who could find Phoenix. Tried to take down a terrorist and in the, as a result, some innocents died. Those are lives lost in the service of a greater good.
Starting point is 00:13:25 Well, what makes it worse is the fact that Wesley Snipes, as he's being taken away, is like, this, I told him, I told him there were people there. I told him there were people there, and he said he didn't care, he didn't care. That's witness testimony. Send him to ICE jail. Amazing Wesley Snipes impression.
Starting point is 00:13:43 And then, like, but by the way, it does this like the top rug. Yeah, we believe you Wesley Snipes. Maniac who's taken over Los Angeles, over a cop, like who is a hero. But also he's a maniac too, because it takes a maniac to catch him. Of course, that's true. That is true. maniac to catch me. That's true. That is true. Well done. Thanks for coming.
Starting point is 00:14:08 Why is it an act, everybody? Why is it an act? How did this get me? How did this get me? By the way, we've only cracked into the first three minutes of this. By the way, I do have a question. The credits have not yet happened. No, this movie has a cold open. So, but are we to understand that he's been sentenced to jail forever?
Starting point is 00:14:29 No, for 30 years. Oh, 70, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Okay, 70 years. In the same jail that Scott Peterson was apparently frozen in. Yes, I pulled up a screen grab of that. Jesus. And they're going through their records. I didn't catch this. Yeah. As they're pulling up their records. I didn't catch this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:45 As they're pulling up their records, I can show you right here. This is all the people that are in jail. That's amazing. Scott Peterson also had his parole hearing at 815. By the way, why would they listen like that? It says 7am Hyde Quentin 815 Peterson Scott 730 Phoenix Simon it should be the other way right no no in the future nothing happens in order that was an evening parole hearing like they kind of knew that the Scott Peterson one he had a lot to talk about so they both get frozen and this is before, I think people even understood what cryogenics were because they basically put Stallone Han Solo in a cube
Starting point is 00:15:32 and then fill it full of water and he seems to be choking. Oh, it is alarming. It's a very disturbing sequence. It's a very disturbing sequence. He's also naked. No need to be naked. There's no real sign of life signs. He's drowned.
Starting point is 00:15:50 In what we're to believe, oxygen goo? I don't like, he's drowning. There's no way that he's drowning. Oh, his lungs are filling with some sort of gloopy liquid, and then they drop a freezer thing, and it all freezes and he's like it looks like a terrible way to get frozen. Oh yeah. That's for sure.
Starting point is 00:16:09 I'm so low how easy. The fact that they didn't say, so here's the thing, just lay down and put your hands on top of your thighs. They were like, no, we're going to put you in a weird hot tub thing and do whatever you want. Just make a face, do one of those guys, whatever you want, however you want to be frozen. That's your last choice. Like that's the last thing you.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Cause he is swimming around in there. Like he's like, cause there's a point when the water, the goop is filling up. He's like, whoa, hey, whoa, some design. He also seems okay with it. The thing that really bothered me was that he wasn't like, hey, this isn't cool. I'm a hero. Yeah. And when, and when someone, I don't, I don't remember if it's smithers, there's an officer named Smithers.
Starting point is 00:16:55 When someone's telling him like what he's going to jail for and listing off like all of the charges, he's just, he refuses to hear it and keeps on saying skip it. Yeah. Skip it. Yeah. Just skip it. Yeah, skip. Yeah. Just skip it. Yeah. But like we all said in 1983, skip it. But 93. 93. Sorry, sorry. The vibe though is like he's been down this road a million times. Like he knows what's gonna happen.
Starting point is 00:17:20 And he has parole officers like, hey man, real bummer. I hate to do this to you. I have to freeze you for 70. But job, like he does things like I'm not making it. Apparently, and apparently that's like cool. Yeah, like no biggie. And by the way, yeah, gosh, again, the first five minutes we are cracking into, I feel like wasn't smashed like I'm not getting naked and you're not filling up a confined space with me. Although he's in that trailer you played, there is Wesley Snipes in Ice,
Starting point is 00:17:49 which we never see in the movie, right? Yeah, maybe his trial was quick. Guys, crack that code. So when you're frozen though, like, hair doesn't grow on your body and your body doesn't age at all. What's this now? Oh, he's got, he suffers from like, below the ears alopecia.
Starting point is 00:18:09 That's either below the ears alopecia, or like he went to a barbershop and had two different people working on him. Cause he's got half of a box that's like, there's a fade that's not finished. And then he's like, you know what, nevermind, die it, die it, just die it blonde. I gotta get out of here. I gotta get out of here.
Starting point is 00:18:25 I gotta get out of here. I gotta commit heinous acts of terrorism. He can't spend all day at the salon. We cut to 2032. Life has changed. It is big time. Apparently we all dress like Nazis. Yes.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Nazis are extras in... The police, the police do. Nazis are bad extras in Star Trek Next generation. It's like everyone's just like Dynan like big plowy dresses and like play you are gaseous. Welcome to Obama's America. They don't say phone. They call it fiber I'll fiber optic you back, which is odd. Yeah. Cause that doesn't even seem like okay. No, they've, yeah, they've just added,
Starting point is 00:19:10 because they've got no violence, they've like, we got time to kill, so let's just throw extra words. Homicide, no, it's a murder death kill. Yeah. Is this, is this a car I'm driving? No, it's a conveyance. My conveyance is... We're getting into conveyance. And murder, death, kill. I've thought about that a lot.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Me too. Murder, death, kill. It's redundant. Murder... There's never a murder that doesn't end in death. So you can just rip the death out of there. Killain is also murder. Yes. So you can just rip the death out of there. Killing is also murder. Yes. So you could just say kill,
Starting point is 00:19:48 cause that would imply death and murder. You could just say murder when it applies kill and death. But you don't even say murder, death, kill. Yeah. Okay, okay, Paul. Murder, death, kill. Sylvester Stallone. John Claude Van Damme. Arnold Schwarzenegger, go!
Starting point is 00:20:08 I'm gonna murder Stallone, I'm gonna kill Schwarzenegger, and I'm gonna... I'm gonna death Wesley. When we cut to 2032, we're with Sandy Bullock. Sandy Bullock. And she is like a uniformed police officer. Her name is Huxley Brave New World, nice reference. Who is deep and smart? There's so many references in this.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Did anybody else notice in the first thing, Stallone punches a guy who's dressed like the Terminator? Did anybody else notice that? Right, there is a guy who's dressed like, yeah, there's this too. Oh, yeah. There's a Shorts and Eager reference later on. There is. There is.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Wait, do you think that Wesley Snipes dyed his hair because Joe Pesci had done it and leave the wife? Oh, my God, that's amazing. I did want to talk about this. Wait, do you think that's Joel Silver being like, Joe Pesci's blonde hair worked? We're going to do blonde hair in this. Blonde hair is cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Basically just so you know, people are like, oh, that Cinderbug is a big like 20th century fan. So that's why her office has a lethal weapon three poster. Not even the best, like one of the worst of the lethal weapons. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hang on, bro. Yeah. It's so weird. They're whoa, whoa, whoa, hang on, bro. Like it's so weird chili peppers because they've definitely lasted.
Starting point is 00:21:33 The chili pepper is carried over to 2032. And there's a little joker. She's just obsessed with the 90s. Like there's nothing wrong with that, but he keeps on saying she's obsessed with the 20th. And what about this one? They're like, oh yeah, chili peppers, leave the weapon and a poster for the band Bomb. Hate, fat love. What? I feel like that was Joel Silver's kid.
Starting point is 00:22:00 Yeah. We've got to get into a little bit. If we put just a poster in the movie, we'll move some units. But she is a uniform police officer in 2032, just driving her police car on and calls the prison warden. She calls the prison warden to say,
Starting point is 00:22:20 hey, warden, how come there's no crime? I'm bored. She's a police officer, just a regular, it is crazy. She's looking for action, Lil, but she knows she's gonna get it. Here, I will say what they did predict was they did predict the iPad, because the Warden has an iPad,
Starting point is 00:22:41 but it's just got a shiny silver frame. Steve Jobs, a lot of people think Steve Jobs got the inspiration for the iPad from this movie. That's he got by the way, when he was true story before he died, he said that. Yeah, he said it as he died. Yeah, watch demolition man. All the answers for Apple products are in demolition man. And then over his eyes, he's dead. Well, the answers for Apple, products are in Demolition Man.
Starting point is 00:23:05 And then X is over his eyes, he's dead. Well, that's why they included the script in that jobs book. It was the script in the last book. Yep, yep, the last, the last appendix of the jobs book is just the script for Demolition Man. That's gonna be so, so prescient. That's gonna be my favorite part of the Ashton Kutcher movie is, cause in the movie, they show him watch Demolition Man,
Starting point is 00:23:26 but they don't cut. They just show him watch the whole movie. Him jerking off to Demolition Man. Because everybody knows Steve Jobs jerked off to Demolition Man. That's where we're at. And you can download this podcast on iTunes. I'm being ripped this podcast on iTunes.
Starting point is 00:23:48 He's ripped off iTunes immediately. So anyway, Oddly, Wesley Snipes has a parole hearing for a mass murderer, seems odd. Seems odd that he's getting a parole hearing before he's alone. Wasn't he sentenced to eternity? Wasn't he sentenced to eternity? Wasn't he sentenced to eternity? But yet they still run parole hearings just in case. Like Stallone accidentally killed 20 people. He still has 40 years before parole hearing.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Snipes gets one. He gets out immediately. No explanation how. Because he breaks out of cuffs. He doesn't do anything. Oh no, no, that's because they programmed him. Yeah. Yeah. But he programmed he would have to be sent into a computer to unlatch it. Like he didn't do it. No, he knew the code. The guy says, how'd you know the code word?
Starting point is 00:24:37 Oh, code word. Yeah, or whatever he says. He said like diddy pants and then it was. It was something that fuck. Yeah, it was not silly. It was like didditty pants and then it was it was something that fuck yeah, it was not silly It was like diddly pants and then And then they say how did you know the password? He goes I don't know and that's why he's able to use all the kids like he goes up to an ATM and it's like Like as you know, do you mean a self-esteem machine? Yes steam machine? Yes. Exactly. Okay. Yeah. Was this escapes very quickly. By the way, I feel like Wesley, I would like to look at the script because I feel like wasn't
Starting point is 00:25:11 improvised every line. Every line. I feel like he was like, I'll be in this movie. If I can't, if I don't have to say any of you dumb words. There's a scene where he was just speaking in Spanish and I happened to watch DVD last night and the audio director's commentary was on. It's like, yeah, it wasn't just started doing the scene in Spanish and we thought it was funny so we just let him do it.
Starting point is 00:25:31 And I was like, I'm proven right. That's crazy. Man, like that's why he talks to the parole officer. I love that you just said, and for some reason the director's commentary was on, as if you didn't turn on director's commentary. I got it. I saw it. He did, I thought. He couldn't figure out the DVD.
Starting point is 00:25:48 We couldn't figure out the DVD for him, I think. I don't get that old shit, man. I'm about Netflix instant and movie. Oh, I'm about streaming. Yeah. So. Here's what's really weird about this movie though, overall, this is just a general comment.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Is the macro point? Yeah, I'm gonna take a macro for a second, cause it's so, like you don't know exactly what you're rooting for. Like there's this new society and it is violence free, but there are certain freedoms, like the freedom to eat fast food that have been taken away from us.
Starting point is 00:26:22 June, haven't you heard Dennis Leary's rant from his stand up back show? I did, Leary's rant from a stand-up fashion show? I did, I did. There are a lot of problems. So, but you're put in a position, though, you're put in a position where it's like, as an audience member, you're harkening back to the better times of 1996,
Starting point is 00:26:38 which was like full of mass violence. Hey, but don't we... It's like, what are we wishing for here? But at the same time, there are people today who are like Oh, it was so much easier in the 50s and it's like not for me. It wasn't I don't know what you mean. I don't know what you mean If you are unclear about why Why people are upset here is a Dennis Leary's rant
Starting point is 00:27:03 Which is at the height of Dennis Leary being a stand up and I feel like they're like, do your thing, man. Just have a little more. And Dennis Leary, just seeing that Dennis Leary is like, like a society is rid of violence and everything's great and glossy and funny. And Dennis Leary is like the leader of the bad, people that live underground,
Starting point is 00:27:24 like in a kind of matrix revolutions kind of scenario Robin Hood Their graffiti is amazing Unbelievable and what they write in the one of the first scenes in the movie is just simply life as hell. Yeah life as hell. Yeah, yeah. Life as hell. And it is. And by the way, they have a graffiti,
Starting point is 00:27:47 anti-graffiti machine, which they show out works, but it's just like poles that shoot out of concrete. So I don't understand how the graffiti disappears. It just seems like, like, psh. You wouldn't get it, man. But meanwhile, it's time for you to beat up people. So we'll jack up the volume a little bit because these clips are a little bit low,
Starting point is 00:28:05 but here you go, this is densely resrand. See, according to Cato's plan, I'm the enemy. Because I like to think, I like to read, I'm into freedom of speech and freedom of choice. I'm the kind of guy who likes to sit in the greasy spoon and one and cheese. Tonight at the T-Bowl State, with a jumbo rack of barbecue ribs
Starting point is 00:28:23 with a side order of gravy fries. I want high cholesterol. I want to eat bacon and butter and bucket of cheese, okay? I want to smoke cubits of garlic, size of Cincinnati, and a non-smoking section. I want to run through the street, snake it with green jello roll of my body, read and playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly might feel the need to, okay pal? I've seen the future.
Starting point is 00:28:34 You know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his base pajamas, drinking a banana broccoli shake, singing, I'm an Oscar Mayer wiener. You look up top, you look cocktail's way. What he wants, when he wants, how he wants. Your other choice? You're not gonna be a good boy. You're not gonna be a good boy. You're not gonna be a good boy. You're not gonna be a good boy. You're not gonna be a good boy. 47 year old virgin sitting around in his face with Thomas, drinking a banana broccoli shake, singing an Amon Oscar Meyer weed.
Starting point is 00:28:45 He looked up and looked cocktoed this way. What he wants, when he wants, how he wants. Your other choice, come down here, maybe start with that. And then he breaks into a pit song, I'm an asshole, right? That was that song that he had, like we did stand up material during a song. The other great part of that is that,
Starting point is 00:29:06 go back to that for a second. Jack Black is one of the underground dwellers. Oh, really? Yeah, go to the very end, go to the very end. I looked, I saw it in the credits and I was like, that's, yeah. Wow. Oh, amazing.
Starting point is 00:29:25 That is awesome. Free Bob Roberts. Oh wow, that's awesome. So that's the villain of the movie. So basically... Wait, that's the villain of the movie? Well I mean he is because basically Cocktoe, the new guy.
Starting point is 00:29:41 No. Oh, Paul, that didn't clear it. Cocktoe is the villain. Well, but I'm saying Cocktoe says he's the villain. So he- Hey Paul, why are you listening to Cocktoe? Yeah. The guy created a great San Angeles, guys.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Hey man, I'm starting to think you're part of Cocktoe's plan. Whatever. I like wiping my ass with three seashells. No big deal. That's another like weird thing, like why would you over, why would you Flintstones it? Like why would you go from toilet paper to seashells? Because according to Stallone he said, he asked the director and his quoted is saying, it was explained to me the seashells, you hold two of them like chopsticks and then you pull gently and scrape what's left behind
Starting point is 00:30:26 with the third. What? So you are like, you're going, it seems way more, waiting for them to have a shit in the future. Wait, but how is it cleaned? So you're going, you're going chopstick style and you're getting the middle of a log of crap,
Starting point is 00:30:43 you're pulling that out and then you're taking the third shell and you're crap, you're pulling that out, and then you're thinking the third show and you're like, get that uncooked. We're talking like, I think it's a pull and a wipe. God, they didn't even know about the cotton-elk soft wipe. That shit is so much more beautiful. But you can't, when you say you hold them chopstick style, so you hold two seashells with one hand?
Starting point is 00:31:04 Yes, like that, and you're pulling it out. But we saw those seashells, they're big. They were pretty big, and they were very clean. So you'd have to wash the shit off of these seashells. Like, who was like, oh yeah, that's actually more convenient than paper that I use once and dump in the toilet. That makes no sense. Also, if you're somebody, like, cause it was how, it was, what, it was,
Starting point is 00:31:27 like they're like 80 year olds who should be alive during this time, who were like, wait a minute, no, toilet paper, there was nothing, there was nothing about toilet paper that made us a violent society. Yep. Like toilet paper, if anything,
Starting point is 00:31:42 kept us from being a more violent society. Why in your utopia that does not involve the rest of the country? Yeah, what is happening with the rest of the country? Do you get rid of toilet paper? And also, can we have the word homicide back because it's really murder death kills. The best part of murder death kill is when the computer reports like a 187 or like a
Starting point is 00:32:12 code and they're like, well what is that? I don't even know what that is. Well let's look it up. Look up 187. Oh, it's a murder death kill. Don't you think it's a police officer? You would know exactly what that thing is? How did this get me? How did this get me?
Starting point is 00:32:27 So basically, you know, we don't have to get into the big part of it. Stallone's unfrozen, Leslie Seth's unfrozen, they wreck a lot of havoc in the future. Basically, Futurama. Yeah. And, and, and... Wow, I didn't, didn't realize there
Starting point is 00:32:42 are so many Futurama fans. But there aren't. Canceled a second time. Really? Really? Really? Then you should have watched. By the way, I don't mean to get back into the shit talk, but there is a moment,
Starting point is 00:33:07 like Sylvester Stallone is unfrozen, they bring him right to the police place, he gets in the uniform right away, he's fully a cop, and he's like, hey, yeah, just stand the books, by the way, you gotta tell that paper. So that means that he's walking around with shit in his ass. No, no, no, he was holding a shit. He didn't go. He didn't go. He didn't go. Because then he swears a bunch, he swears a bunch, and every time you swear you get
Starting point is 00:33:31 a ticket, so he swears a whole bunch, so a whole bunch of paper tickets come out and he goes, thanks, I'll be in the bathroom. Here's the weird thing about Sandy. Did you think he was just going to go read those in the bathroom like a newspaper? I was like, I'm not going to get taken as shit, and he was like, oh, damn, there's no toilet paper. I'm going to go shit and was like, oh, damn, there's no toilet paper. All right, I'm gonna go out there, tell them the problem. Then get a bunch of tickets and wipe my ass.
Starting point is 00:33:49 Like, he just pulled up his pants real quick, so he's got, he's doing that scene for shit in his ass. Hey, Paul, how are you living? What, do you live like an animal? Like, do you not check if there's toilet paper before you go? I think he was like, I've been frozen for 40 years. I got this goo coming out of my ass
Starting point is 00:34:05 because it was all of it, all everything. I need to shake this shit out. I can't hold it in. Oh, there's no toilet paper. I'm freaked out. I gotta go out there and I'm embarrassed. This girl's kind of cute. I need to wipe my ass.
Starting point is 00:34:17 I gotta be cool with her and just whisper. Let me ask you this. Also, Badaise. They had Badaise in the 90s. And somebody was like, er, Badaise. Also, bidets. They had bidets in the 90s, and somebody was like, oh, a bidet, no, I figured out a method. Seychelles. I found three seashells.
Starting point is 00:34:31 Three metal seashells, they appeared to be. Paul, I have a question for you. Yeah. When Stallone was frozen, he had a family, I think. Oh, yeah, he did. And when he asked about that family, here's what he was told. And then I have a mind-blowing question afterwards.
Starting point is 00:34:51 Okay, great. I think we have the same question. I think we all have the same questions. I think we all have the same questions. By the way, if you are a fantasy lover. I'm just gonna, should we just go, Sandra Bullock is 100% his daughter, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:04 There's no other way. Should we just go, Sandra Bullock is 100% his daughter, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's no other way. Yeah, Sandra Bullock is 100% his daughter. Yes, yes, yes. Thank you, thank you. No, like, I can look it up. And she stops. And she's like, no, no, no, don't do that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:28 Because then when I fuck you, it'll be weird. Oh, my God. This is like old boy shit. Spoilers for old boy. Yeah. Guys, you rock my world. Right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Right? The minute that happened, I was like, oh, she's his daughter. Then they had the sex scene and I was like, whoa. Yeah. This is gonna be really weird when they reveal that she's his daughter. But it was just mine, sex, so you could kind of play it out. I was kind of okay with it.
Starting point is 00:35:57 But then it went in really. But then kisses her and I was like, barf. Yeah. But then, and by barf, I mean barf out of my wiener, I came. But by the way, the way the movie ends in spoiler alert, but it looks like he's gonna go off with her. Yes, his daughter. Yes, his daughter together. They're together.
Starting point is 00:36:15 His daughter. Come on. This is a dystopian future. By the way, there's no other explanation that's offered. I am wrong. There's no other explanation that's offered. I am wrong. There's no other explanation that's offered. Because they spent so much time. They spent so much time with where's the daughter?
Starting point is 00:36:31 Is there a daughter? The wife is dead, we know that. But there's a daughter and blah, blah, blah. And I don't want to see the daughter because she won't like me because I've been in ice jail. But I want to fuck you, baby. I should make sure you're not my daughter. Oh, fuck it, who cares? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:45 But all right, I want to know one whole in this theory. He was married, his last name was Huxley, or his last name was Spartan. She's Huxley. How did you change your name? Who knows? I'm not worried about that. She may be remarried.
Starting point is 00:37:00 She may be remarried. Like, who knows? His wife remarried. And by the way, it's like it's a new society. Who the fuck knows what happened? I love, thank you, thank you. I love, we are 100% on the same page. He's fucking his daughter.
Starting point is 00:37:16 Yeah. That's what also seemed weird when he was having mind sex and he was like freaked out by it. It seemed like- Like a horror movie. Yeah, that it was like, like he was like kind into it and then it was like, oh wait a minute, this could be my kid.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Yeah. No, I gotta go. I really thought we were gonna learn that information and that we didn't was very upsetting. This is Sex in the Future. Guys, wanna watch Sex in the Future? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Woo! The following scene is pretty amazing. I let it go long here again. Also, why do they fucking love jingles? We'll begin in a few seconds. Having sex, of course. I want to talk to Sandra Bullock about this movie. Stallone, again, great acting here, watch this.
Starting point is 00:38:10 What? Not cool. Oh shit. What? Not cool. Oh shit. By the way, it's filmed like a horror sequence. It's a horror sequence. Yeah. Is this my daughter? Wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Oh yeah. We both have clips in our chin. What? What? What? What? What's wrong? He broke contact. Contact? I didn't touch you yet. Wow. Guys, that just happened. That is, I think, the most graphic sexy sexy they've seen even though it's not graphic. It's like it's he's a
Starting point is 00:39:16 Su-man's the Su-man's on his face. Yeah, look And by the way, there's a great look in the future, just the Tuxedo Vest without sleeves. Yeah. Or Tuxedo Jaguar without sleeves. Yeah, in a world where everyone's- It appears as if he has a right sleeve. Oh, did it? No, I think he had no, he didn't have either sleeve. But in a world where everybody's a fucking wimp,
Starting point is 00:39:37 like the fact that they're like, ah, but we're gonna go sleeveless to show off our muscles, even though we don't have violence or anything like that. I have a feeling they gave him like a full album. He looked like a merman with these sleeves on. Absolutely. I feel like he was like, rip, rip, rip. It's the same thing in over the top when the kid had a jacket
Starting point is 00:39:55 and he was like, I want this kid to have no sleeves. I do like, by the way, that they refer to Simon Phoenix, the was his nice character as maniac a lot. Yes. Yeah. Stand down maniac or like failure. The maniac is not listening. Yes. Right. That like why that seems an overtly confrontational term. Yeah. Criminal maniac. Yeah, or even just hey suspect. Yeah. Literally. why did they go in this future? They, like, went zero to George Zimmerman. Just, like... I don't know if you're the person I'm supposed to be stopping,
Starting point is 00:40:37 but get on the ground, Maniac! Get on the ground, Maniac. Oh, man. And then, so, but, also, the movie is based on this idea that Wesley Snatch needs to find the gun, but yet he steals a stick from a police officer that when injected into a car, blows it up. He's probably like, oh, you know what, fuck the gun. I'll take this stick that blows shit up.
Starting point is 00:40:58 And what is it? Well, that was only because he- What is it that the museum, though, the guns are all in like a glass structure, and he behaves as though he's never seen glass in the night. He gets excited about the cannons, like an old school pirate cannon, he's like, ooh, what have you got here?
Starting point is 00:41:16 Well, as a child, he was never taken to a museum, and that's why he turned to that life of crime. It says, it really says something about the state of public education. Here we go. I'm just saying, perhaps if it was a little better. Yeah, yeah, yeah, good time at the museum, he was learning. Yeah, he went to like that school that the kids in the wire went to. And then was like, oh, this is going crazy.
Starting point is 00:41:45 So in the world of demolition man, is there a world outside of San Angeles? You would argue that that would be yes. I mean, uh... Well, we do... I don't know that I would argue that. There's an enormous earthquake that kills everybody basically. Yeah, a lot of lights were extinguished. If Santa Brooke said, and my mother
Starting point is 00:42:06 was also killed in that earthquake, it would have been good. Oh. Oh, yeah? Was that a question? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She was so, oh, but no, here, actually, this is why her name is Huxley, because her mother died, her dad's in jail, she gets adopted,
Starting point is 00:42:21 she never knew her mom. Oh, shit! Oh, shit! Oh, shit! Oh, shit! Why is it Senak? He was quite in a show. Two exits. Two bold exits. Oh, here's another thing,
Starting point is 00:42:39 when Stallone's trying to have sex with his daughter, he goes, he goes, oh, we're not gonna knock boots, we're not gonna hunk a chunka. Hunk a chunka? When was that a phrase for sex? It was between 93 when the movie was made and 96 when the movie is set. Hunk a chunka.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Hey, do you want a hunk a chunka? Yeah, I... It was really gross. My favorite... I remember Colour Me Bad saying a song, Hunker Chunker. Yeah. One of my favorite things is once Simon Phoenix has escaped and they've thought out Sylvester Stallone, they're like, okay, well, we've run the computer program, we know what he's
Starting point is 00:43:24 gonna do. He's going to, it is determined that he will try and set up a drug lab and start a new crime syndicate. That's just his, that must be his plan. And that made me furious. Because I was like, you are fucking assholes. If you think like, and so if I was just alone, rightfully, it's like you guys are assholes and If you think like, and Sylvester Stallone, rightfully is like, you guys are assholes
Starting point is 00:43:46 and I felt vindicated. Also, do you realize how long it takes to set up a drug lab? In this environment, it would be almost impossible. You do not even get so people on the idea of taking drugs. Right, and find a drug that they, like you're not, you don't have like,
Starting point is 00:44:04 weed or cocaine available, like you're gonna have to go into a lab and make some sort of synthetic drug, you're gonna have to do human trials, you're gonna have to make sure it's addictive. They can't stop for video artists. That's, yeah. It would be like saying this time, it would be like he's gonna set up a loom factory
Starting point is 00:44:22 and people are gonna go there and get tapestries. Like, it's like, why? And also, it's gonna take some doing. Yeah, this is a seven-year plan. His drug lab idea, that's seven years. That's a big world, yeah, that's a big chunk that he's gonna get into. By the way, it's also a very low-tier plan so but we're we come to understand one
Starting point is 00:44:47 but I'm sorry they're always looking for him but they clearly find him because he curses all the time whenever he curses a ticket comes out of the machine that's like oh you just follow the cursing machines that's where it is they never use the cursing machines to locate him by the way, great point. We all should go to the future and be future cops. We're not we come to understand that while Stallone was frozen, he was conscious during that entire time. Yeah, he definitely has. All right.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Yeah. Do you want to hear his? Yeah, I love to. Let's take your point first. No, no, let's watch it first for sure. Here's a great dramatic monologue from Sylvester Stallone about his time in cryo jail. President, sister. I don't want to spoil your dinner pal,
Starting point is 00:45:38 but my cryo sentence was no sweet lullaby. I had feelings and I had thoughts. How about a 36 year nightmare about people caught in a burning building? You would awake. I don't think so. I do think so. And my wife beating her fist against a block of ice that used to be her husband. Then you were nice enough to wake me up and let me know everything that meant something to my life is gone.
Starting point is 00:45:59 Except your daughter. It would have been more of a way to stake me down and leave me to the fucking crows. What would you say if I called you a brutish fossil, symbolic of a decayed era? Great. I love that name. I love that name. I love the guy from Beetlejuice playing the same character. I honestly thought the whole like, her thing, she wanted to fuck him.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Oh yeah. And I was waiting for that moment where like, he takes her into the Taco Bell bathroom. She, and it's like, I've done this before in the Taco Bell bathroom, but never won this, nice. She is wet. I oddly got the, I guess, the European version of this online,
Starting point is 00:46:49 and Taco Bell is replaced with Pizza Hut. What? And yeah. But they didn't change it all out, so there are some scenes that, like, you see a Taco Bell sign and then they say pizza. I was like, let's go to this Pizza Hut, but it's Taco Bell. But there's no Taco Bell in I guess, far countries. I went to college at the University of North Carolina and the one thing that I can take
Starting point is 00:47:11 pride in is that fellow alum, Dan Cortez, was the piano player in the Taco Bell. Combination Pizza Hut Taco Bell. I like that. Yeah, yeah. That is playing like on the piano like Jolly Green Giant. It's a great scene. Jesse, the big Jesse, the body, Ben Shura is in this movie as one of the he's one of the thought out thugs that Simon Phoenix asks to be thought out. And by the way, a huge question mark on that one, only because like Simon Phoenix, like, yeah, if you want me to kill Den Sleary, I got to get like a bunch of my guys out there. Oh, yeah, sure. We'll release more crazy people in this world. And then at the end of the
Starting point is 00:47:57 movie, those guys are not captured. They're probably forming that drug lab. Oh, yeah. But a few of them were talking about it like, hey, we could really make a killing with a drug lab. Also, do you know, did he ever thaw out Jeffrey Dahmer? Cause he was so excited about getting to meet Jeffrey Dahmer. Great news, John Hine is tweeting about the show. John Hine from the Howard Stern show.
Starting point is 00:48:23 He was just here. I do know that the police don't seem too worried about Simon Phoenix being out, because at one point Benjamin Brad says, it'll just be a matter of tick-tocks until we find him. Again, overcomplicating the word time. Because in the future we use longer and more words to say short things. Here's what's so confusing about Sandy Bullock's character. She set up as wanting to see violence and action so badly. But the second something actually happens,
Starting point is 00:48:57 she doesn't do anything. She just unfreezes. Until later when she kicks a little ass, because. But her instinct is to unfree someone else to get in there. Yeah, right. Her dad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:09 Just her father. Slash sexual partner. Yeah. I mean like there's an argument to be made that she wants to see action because it's in her blood. Wow. Yeah. It's in her blood.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Dramatic. That's why everybody else is docile and lame and she has the blood of John Spartan in her. John Spartan? She has the blood of John Spartan in her and she has soon she will have the semen of John Spartan in her. By the way, this is the interesting point of this movie. There's a part in this movie where Wuzz and Snipes threatens Copto, who's actually getting on the whole thing, and we know that it's not a secret and it's not really revealed in an interesting way. And he runs away, and then they, like, everyone just kind of takes a break.
Starting point is 00:49:57 It's like, oh yeah, we're hunting that guy. Anyway, do you want to come talk about tonight? Yeah, let's go talk about it. Let's go back to your apartment. And like, there's a long period of time where W where Wesley Snipes, he escapes in the daylight, we catch back up with him at night, he's like, all right, here I am going down here. Like, there's a, everyone just took time off. Yeah, he jumped into some bushes and they were like, ah, we're not, I'm not getting this
Starting point is 00:50:18 fancy new outfit dirty. He is dressed like Chris Cross in this movie. Yeah. He is full blown Chris Cross and and like for whatever reason, there's like a demolition man logo on the front of his overalls. I don't know where he got that, but there you know it was from the it was from the cryo. Yeah, they all they all got this question. Yeah, that's not that's not a demolition. Yeah, they have that's like a that's
Starting point is 00:50:44 just something from the prison. I will say in the Dennis Leary underground teenage mutant Ninja Turtle sewer world, why did the lady who made cheeseburgers look like Frida Kahlo? Yes, yes. 100%. She's alive, she's alive,
Starting point is 00:51:03 and she's been living down there, that's her resistance. Yep, in the future, Frida's alive, and she's been living down there. That's her new resistance. Yep, in the future, in this version of the future, Frida Kahlo and Diego Rivera live in an underground city. And it's rat burgers. Guys, let me just drop some facts on you about this movie, and I want to hear your reactions to them. Laurie Petty was originally cast in the role of Sandra Bullock
Starting point is 00:51:22 playing. Tank girl? Yes, and after a few days of filming, was fired and role of Sandra Bullock play. Tank girl? Yes, and after a few days of filming was fired and replaced with Sandra Bullock. Wow. Few days, so we don't know. So we have to get that footage. It's Eric Stoltz, Marty McFly footage.
Starting point is 00:51:36 I feel like she probably tried to get fired. Yes, but what the fuck, I'm fucking my dad? Yeah. The original movie was written before Stephen Segal and John Claude Van Damme. Amazing. Van Damme was offered the role of the bad guy, but didn't want that role.
Starting point is 00:51:55 He agreed to start it if both lead roles could be switched, but Segal was like, well, I don't wanna play the bad guy. So then that movie was scrapped. Here's two other facts that are interesting. Jackie Chan was supposed to be was a snipe, but Jackie Chan said he didn't want to play a bad guy because Asian audiences don't like good guys who become bad guys and then he is name checked in it. Yes, because Sandra Bullock big Jackie Chan fan. Oh, interesting European version. He says Bruce Lee. He says he's not Jackie Chan. Oh, interesting. Here are two other
Starting point is 00:52:30 things. These are all like amazing facts. Wesley Snipes kicks and punches look lurchy and awkward because he's such a good karate guy in real life that his punches were so fast that it blurred in the camera. Oh my God. So they made him that his punches were so fast that it blurred in the camera. Oh my God. So they made him slow it down. So it looks weird. That's amazing. And in Kuwait, the movie was simply called Rambo the Destroyer.
Starting point is 00:52:54 Right. Rambo, Rambo also name checked in this movie. Yes. Whereas the Snipes gets guns and is like, thanks Rambo, or something like that. And then Luke Skywalker is also name checked in this movie. Whereas the Snipes gets guns and is like thanks Rambo or something like that. And then Luke Skywalker is also name checked in this movie. There's a lot of pop culture references from the 1980s in 2032.
Starting point is 00:53:15 Also I am wondering if in the Expendables movies, Sylvester Stallone wears a beret. And I'm wondering if he just took the beret from Demolition Man, or if this is some kind of a nod to all the guys and gals who went to Democon. And where does that beret come from? When he gets up and talks, we're not wearing berets. No, it was in his box.
Starting point is 00:53:42 He had a box of stuff. Right, with yarn. Yes. Wait, remember when he knit a sweater? Remember when in one night, Sylvester Stallone, knit a red sweater? And by the way, he knit an entire sweater out of like one ball of yarn. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:04 That's how good the rehabilitation program was. entire sweater out of like one ball of yarn. Yeah. Yeah. That's how good the rehabilitation program was. I really thought that that was going to be like fully realized and that was gonna be like paid off in a wonderful way. The final sequence. I wanna learn to knit now just so I can start an Etsy shop called John Spartan.
Starting point is 00:54:24 John Spartan. John Spartan. Sweaters for my daughter wife. I wanted, before we go on to the audience, because I'm sure you guys have some things we might have missed, I do want to play a scene that Jason, which said that we should definitely play it. I agree with that. I'm going to pee while we do this because it's too sexy for me to do that.
Starting point is 00:54:50 So obviously it was a snipe from the way he dressed. It's pretty hip-hop. So they went to score the fight scene with a little bit of hip-hop here. Let's have some record. So let's do the record scratches during this fight. And here we go. So listen to the record scratches during this fight. I'm gonna go, I wanna wait. Stay here. Stupid. I love the thing, whoever made that turn is like, what the, what the, what the, what the thing?
Starting point is 00:55:41 It's like old like Casio Piano that you can buy. Yeah, and then you never hear it for the rest of the movie. Never hear it, never hear it. It's like old like Casio Piano that you bought. Woo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo And then another person like, but we don't have the budget to have them re-score the whole, but just let them do the next song. That's your song, get out. Cause even at the very end, like when he's hanging, when Stallone's hanging from the grabber thing, the music there is like weirdly like, orchestral, but like fast and kind of circusy?
Starting point is 00:56:26 I feel like they, no one really knew what was going on but they were psyched that it was happening. Like I, I, I, we're doing something. The best in this sequence though is when they cut back to everyone in the police station who's watching violence, I guess for the first time. I mean, that's what I think that scene is about. All right, like they've never seen it. But like, so my question is they've never seen movies,
Starting point is 00:56:52 they've never seen... Well, she's a 90s aficionado, she's not seen some Stallone films. Right, I mean, no, she just has the poster for Lethal Weapon 3. Well, and Rambo is talked about, so... Did you use the 3 C-shells in there? What's that? Did you use the 3 C-shells? posted for lethal weapon three and Rambo is talked about so Rambo exist. Three seashells.
Starting point is 00:57:07 What's that? Did you use the three seashells? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I used to see. But that also brings up a good point. There's a moment where like when the warden is killed and they're like, bring him up on screen. They show him dying and they're all just like, huh? Yeah, that's a shame.
Starting point is 00:57:25 Yeah, it's a bummer. They didn't call for help back up there. This is watching bleed out. Okay. Also in 2036, I just want to, I just have to say 2036, I think there's only two women on the police force. Yeah. Like really, we like this Benjamin Bratt too, and he's kind of a lady.
Starting point is 00:57:44 Like, they really built it. like really we like this Benjamin Bratt to and he's kind of a lady like they really built the slurry or gay like the end of the movie like they're doing there and they're like side by side he's like fuck it and then there's like high five and they like there's a moment between the two of them. Yeah, because he like gets dread like they change his clothes they give him a makeover and rip the sleeves off his outfit and put a vest on him. No sleeves. Yeah, they put a vest like good. yeah, you're one of us now. Wear this vest.
Starting point is 00:58:10 There are obviously some things that we missed and that's why we go out to you, the audience. If you have questions, things that we might have missed, things you wanna inform us about, oh my gosh, this guy has a question. All right, your name, your favorite scene of the movie and your question, oh, he wrote it down on his iPad. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:58:27 You mean on his fiber op? op. Read your fiber op. My name is Chris. You thought way too long. I know. Well, he was reading. Like he was reading as he said it. My name is Chris. What I was actually thinking about is my favorite scene in the movie
Starting point is 00:58:45 because there's so many great ones. I think it's the blood sugar sex magic, we go up in three, framing up a Santa Bullock's office. I just wanted to bring up that the director of this movie, which I had to look up because I was like, where did this come from? I just want to read the first line of his Wikipedia.
Starting point is 00:59:04 Marco Van Briella is a New York based video collage and installation artist, known for his elaborate recontextualizations of popular and found industry, which Vanity Fair praises as critiques and masterpieces of visual overload. That's awesome. Well, that's awesome. That lines up. That lines up. That's awesome. It sounds like the guy that I want directing demolition, man. And by the way, this movie is not poorly directed.
Starting point is 00:59:34 Are you sure about that? I agree. I agree with you. But I mean, in the grand scheme of the room. Are you sure about that? I mean, in that don't you see that sexing? Yeah you're right that's a pretty great video installation. Alright your name, your favorite thing that Simon Phoenix did in your question here we go. My name is Tom favorite
Starting point is 01:00:00 thing that Simon Phoenix did was actually the opening fight sequence when he just goes crazy to hip-hop music. And my question is, it's more of an explanation, hope, but... Nice reference. This guy gets it. This guy gets it. I was wondering, the entire building does get blown up in the opening scene, right? So how do they find 20 bodies in a matter of seconds?
Starting point is 01:00:31 Very good point. Very good point. I think it's left out to the front, maybe. There is in the front of the building. Maybe the explosion. I think Phoenix must, here's what I think. I think Phoenix must have killed them by lighting them on fire or something.
Starting point is 01:00:50 Because otherwise- I think they put him in a dumpster and they were going through the dumpster. No, he froze, well he said he froze them so that way because Stallone early on is like, I did a thermoscan and there was only eight people in that giant building. And he says the reason you didn't know
Starting point is 01:01:05 is because they were dead already. When he froze them, he froze them so that they wouldn't show up on a thermos scan. The cops in Los Angeles thought that Stallone froze these people to death? No, no, no. That's what Simon Phoenix did. They thought the explosion, they thought that he was a cowboy
Starting point is 01:01:24 and went in and just with reckless abandon caused the death of these 20 hostages. And what they didn't know is that Simon Phoenix had already killed and frozen the hostages. To frame John, oh, I'm dying. I'm fucking dying. This is our lives. We try and make sense of this for you.
Starting point is 01:01:45 But... I'm looking for ladies, there's no ladies for me. But here's the last question about that. So the cops found them frozen, though. The cops found the bodies frozen. No, no, because the fire, the fire, they've got flash drive. They really did just take Phoenix's word for it, that they were just.
Starting point is 01:01:59 Yes, yes. That's the injustice that I was complaining about. Yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right. This is the kind of world I don't want to live in, like, today. Okay. Your name, what you would say to Simon Phoenix at his trial, and your question?
Starting point is 01:02:16 You're a maniac. Good. Your name. Is your name? Okay, now what would you say to Simon Phoenix at his trial? That's two good questions. Number one, if they're trying to underplay the sexuality so much in this society, why did that girl like new dial Stallone?
Starting point is 01:02:33 Yeah, that's it. That was strange. And who did she think she was dialing? Like what was that? Yeah, the quick question was, doesn't the liquid styrofoam for fresh cars seems so much like more inefficient and slower than airbags? When that slipped. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:50 I actually thought that that safety foam. I thought that that foam was a great idea though, because the foam protects the entire car. Like there's, to me there's no way if you have a car that produces that foam that you could ever die in a car crash Where is what you would die in some vacation? It is filling the cabin with something that goes from soft to hard So you would be killed
Starting point is 01:03:17 Goes from soft to hard Just like John Spartan, like, bokeh and... It protects you inside of it. It protects you inside of it, and then someone has to chisel you out. Yeah, because you're dead. No, you're not dead. Because you're dead, then. I did think that the naked girl was interesting.
Starting point is 01:03:33 That's like very good. The naked, like, there is, like, this is like the first like, sexting here's naked picture kind of scenario. And it, cause it's a phone call up here, and there's a naked woman, and she's like, hey, do you want to, oops, wrong number. But it's like the era where like naked women in movies
Starting point is 01:03:49 like started like, went on a decline a little bit, it was sort of like, actually like, so like, I just put some tits in there, like that would be a fun scene, right? Because like, it was like so gratuitous, and even like, there's no, like they should just, I had no problem with that scene. Your name, why do you think John Spartan is a hero in your question?
Starting point is 01:04:07 My name is Mallory. Mallory. It's a family ties quote guys. RIP David Goldberg. Great Scott Valentine reference. Thank you. I think John Spartan was a hero because he didn't let anything stop him. Great. I like that.
Starting point is 01:04:29 And I guess my question is that scene where he's in the museum and he's kicking the glass. And then I guess the museum guard sees him. And I guess I'm wondering how socially stunted are they that they can't, like he's breaking into the thing. He's like, oh, do you need help? And then he's like, oh, how much do you weigh? And just chucks him. And you know. This movie posits that 30 years in the future,
Starting point is 01:04:55 we would forget 30 years ago. So that would be fine. Yeah, right, yeah. We have no recollection of, what would that be? Like the eight, 77. Yeah. So we'd be like, yeah, I don't know what happened in the 77.
Starting point is 01:05:06 I don't know. Unless that earthquake killed most people. I don't think it did. And then lobotomized everybody else. And just, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, information's leaving my brain. It's one thing to be like, we don't have crime. It's another thing to be like, what is crime? crime. It's another thing to be like, what is crime?
Starting point is 01:05:26 Yeah. You know? Like that's a tough, that's a tough sell. Especially for people that are in their 20s, which means that they were born 10 years after this. So it's not like. Well, like his cop friend, his cop friend who was flying the helicopter at the beginning of the movie.
Starting point is 01:05:46 Like nobody ever thought to be like, hey man, you lived through this, you were a cop then. This like, you don't remember what a one eight seven is? Yeah, why can't he be like, oh no, that's a murder. Right. Death kill. As you guys know it now. And then they'd be like, shut up, man.
Starting point is 01:06:07 Just keep working on your little miniatures. That's my third wire. That's my third wire. He's left their free. Yeah. By the way, Wyatt and I were talking about this. I love that guy because in the young version of him was Agent Johnson from Y hard, which is just, you know, look, I like that.
Starting point is 01:06:27 And I like that he's flying helicopters in both movies. He has a very, he has a niche. The problem is the actor who's the older version of him is like a foot and a half taller than the actor playing the younger version of him. Well, after the earthquake, we all grew. Oh, everybody gets longer. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:41 Your question, your name, what favorite piece of future tech in your question? name, what favorite piece of future tech in your question? My favorite piece of future tech has to be Taco Bell being every restaurant ever. My question or my point is you guys left out the part of the movie actually we have a closet and take a break and come back and that is like we'll greet each other in the future. Be well. Right. They put their hands close and they do a little circle.
Starting point is 01:07:06 Yeah, they go like that. And then, yeah. It's very weird. It's very karate kid wax on, wax off. Although, you know what? If we all did that, we'd put that damn Purell family out of business. Well, that's the thing is, they also don't high five. They come close to high five.
Starting point is 01:07:24 They are like, yeah. They really don yeah yeah yeah physical contact with each other no no sex is outlawed because of the swapping of fluids yeah which we all understand to be disgusting who has a good question double hand raise you have a good question holy shit what is going on what is every everyone's raising their hands? Your name... You okay? Okay. Your name, what you would call the first movie that leads into Demolition Man, and your question?
Starting point is 01:07:53 Alright, the movie that leads you into Demolition Man is probably White Man Can't Jump. Alright, I like that theory. That's a trilogy, and then after that, it's Major League. And then Major League 2 is pretty much happening at the same time as... Wait, so you're saying white man can't jump close to the Major League 1, Major League 2, and then demolition man? Basically, it's happening while demolition man is going on. Alright, we're off the track. Here we go, question. So, Mike, well, it's more of a point leading in, okay, so the start, there's the fire going on,
Starting point is 01:08:27 and then West 6th Lamp says, is it me or is it Hot in here? Or it's getting cold in here and it throws the thing on, yeah, the gas, but at the end, it's all frozen and cold, and then, so it's going on the side, is it me or is it cold in here? And then that just pisses off West 6th Lamp it's kind of like there's going first full circle. And like... Well there is, there actually is... The first scene is the parallel of the last scene. There's another parallel about that
Starting point is 01:08:54 because Wesley Snipes says something in the beginning about taking my head off. Like he's like, something, something. If you take my head off and Stallone's like, Stallone's like, oh, keep that in mind. And then in the end, he takes his head off. He kept it in mind for 37 years or whatever. Well, he had a lot of time to think while he was alive
Starting point is 01:09:15 in that block of ice. Yeah. People go insane in solitary confinement. People go insane. Yeah, he's- For 37 years, he's been awake and comes out and is like let's get the work. And a one-point ask to be put in a moment of frustration says put me back in the fridge. Yes. Alright here we go. Not even the freezer, just the fridge. The fridge.
Starting point is 01:09:39 He wants a lesser sentence. Okay. Question, comment, name, here you go. My name is Merlenni's and I'm not very good with names of cars but there's one scene where they're on the ground and they had this awesome red car. Like how is these poor people had this awesome car and how they had it down there and then how did that How did they get it down there? And it's like, I don't even remember.
Starting point is 01:10:04 That's my question. It's amazing question that basically the mole people had an elevator underneath a Chevy dealership that just in case they needed to stay. Yeah, because they see them go down there a number of times and the only way it seems to get down, they seem to be able to get down is through like a sewer. Manhole covers cover. Right.
Starting point is 01:10:26 But also with that, like Wesley Snipes runs away and Stallone, rather than give chase is like, wait, hold on a second, can you start that elevator up? Because I really wanna drive that GTO right now. Like I know I need to stop this terrorist that's like trying to kill me and everybody, but I want to give this thing a test drive.
Starting point is 01:10:51 Is that cool Dennis Leary? I know I'm supposed to be protecting you, but is it all right if I, like I know I'm gonna catch him, he's on foot. There's no way, I'm just, just let me put the car in the elevator. Hey, move past de la Huerta, move your fucking burger shop so I can drive in there.
Starting point is 01:11:11 Did anybody else think it was weird that the Dennis Leary people, the underground dwellers, their way of checking in on the real world is to have like a periscope that pops out of the ground? Yeah, yeah. And that twice Sylvester Stallone sees it randomly and is like, hey, what is that thing? And everybody else is like, what are you talking about? And he's like, oh, I guess it was nothing.
Starting point is 01:11:33 He's a groundhog, and in 1996, he was a great groundhog hunter. And I was gonna say, this is my favorite part. And when he goes underground for the first time, Sylvester Stallone lifts up the sewer grate, and he goes, smells like biscuits and gravy. Yep. Yeah. No, it doesn't.
Starting point is 01:11:50 It shouldn't. No, it doesn't. If it does, then that's a beautiful place to live, but does not seem like a match. Especially because then he manages to find a hamburger, which he's been craving forever. Uh-oh. Nick Kroger.
Starting point is 01:12:03 Which, yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! which he's been craving forever. Uh-oh. Nick Kroll just got up. Richard, yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Y'all done with show?
Starting point is 01:12:10 We're up! Everybody text Nick Kroll, no, we're not done with the show, asshole. Very close, very close, we're not yet. Um, he eats a hamburger, turns out it's made of rat meat. But you know what, it's still pretty good. Still pretty good.
Starting point is 01:12:24 He doesn't mind it. Here he goes. This is your final question. A lot of pressure on you to bring it home. No! We've got to get to Nick Crowley. Guys! Nick Crowley, yo!
Starting point is 01:12:34 We've got to go, guys. All right, here we go. Your name, what you would say to Sylvester Stallone when he was on trial? Any question? My name is John. I'd say it's not your fault. Good answer.
Starting point is 01:12:49 And my question is, could you guys just briefly talk about how Sandra Bullock tries to say like these 90s phrases but says them wrong? Oh. At a certain time. What's there to say? After Simon Phoenix in a hall, it says I'm going to go down there, I'm gonna blow them.
Starting point is 01:13:05 Yeah. There's a, but I wrote down a bunch of those, they're all terrible. Again, like, again, no, no language, like language is not devolved. No. Like I'm gonna blow him, I'm gonna blow him. She says, at one point she says,
Starting point is 01:13:20 it looks like you've meet your match. What? And she says, take this job and shovel it. Yeah. Yeah. Like there is- If you saw with a weapon, she would know that those are wrong statements. To anyone who is like over 45 in that society, they would know those phrases. Sure.
Starting point is 01:13:40 Yeah. Like you- They have jingles from our time. Right, yeah. Why don't they have like a book of phrases from our time? Also, why don't they have the music from our time? They clearly have the movie posters. They have posters for the Red Hot Chili Peppers, but not...
Starting point is 01:13:56 But no music. Yeah. Was that the end? Like, oh, that's... Music can't get any better. Let's shut it down. Shut down the studios, everybody. We're not listening to music anymore, just jingles.
Starting point is 01:14:10 Old jingles too. Like jingles from like the 40s jingles. Yeah, not jingles from our time. No, like oldies is for them from the 40s, but just jingles, not songs. But not the, yeah, and not like the good ones, like by Menon. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:27 Like that's great, solid. And if you wanna watch some deleted scenes of Dan Cortes singing by Menon, you can see it. Obviously we had opinions about this movie, but they're not shared by everyone. Now it is time for a second opinion. These are five star reviews, called from amazon.com. People who felt very strongly about it.
Starting point is 01:14:50 There's some good ones in here. This one's from JTS titled, The Beauty and the Syrocop. I think she means like, well, I'm okay, Syrocop is not right. This isn't all caps. Cryo? Does she mean cryo? I think she means cryo. It's about the Syro though.
Starting point is 01:15:06 So the story is always a constant in these Amazon reviews. Here we go. All caps. Sandra's sweet innocent takes the edge off this tough guy film. She is to Spartan what Adrian, it's felt like Alderaan, was to Rocky. The special effects are great. Some of the dialogue lags at times, but the strings of the characters carry this one through. Check out the end.
Starting point is 01:15:32 Wow. All right, Sandra Bullock wrote that review. Sandra Bullock wrote that. I own this title and have seen it six times. It's title. Worthless sequel? I think so. Good fare.
Starting point is 01:15:50 Do you think any of the people who listen to our podcast, when they hear about the movie, go and write five-star reviews, hoping that they might get picked? I never take anything that's written past like 2009. Well done. So that is a good one. It's a nice dry ass holes. I really like this movie. A good thing about it is there is profanity, but they don't abuse it like they do in pulp fiction.
Starting point is 01:16:16 And that movie they say the airport so many times it loses its meaning. Also, Snipes is pretty funny at times throughout the film. Five stars. Okay, this is my, I think this goes up in the pantheon of like favorite Amazon reviews because it really takes a turn. From Geek Mom, this is my most favorite movie ever.
Starting point is 01:16:48 There are so many quotes in this movie that are relevant today to today's society it's a great action flick with some of my most favorite actors and the crazy humor in it makes looking at what we're going through today almost laughable I wish more people had seen it and then they'll understand with what's wrong with today's Congress and then they'll understand what's wrong with today's Congress. And why they need to stop voting for progressives. ASAP. This is the kind of world we'd be forced to live in if the progressives continued to thrive. Nothing would be legal in government
Starting point is 01:17:16 with moderate pay for everything you do. Truly frightening. By a star. Here, I will say, I will say watching this movie, there was something about it that felt like, oh yeah, if you listen to Glenn Beck, like Glenn Beck would love this movie as like, oh this is the dystopian future that like, liberals want,
Starting point is 01:17:43 because, oh, everyone wears the same outfits and there's only one restaurant. Like, you get, like, there's no money anymore. And... I agree with that, but what we came from in 96 was so terrible. Right. And in 96, that was Clinton.
Starting point is 01:18:01 Right. That was, that was like, oh, Clinton caused Hollywood to catch fire. And then. No planes to land in LAX anymore. No commercial airliner. Yeah. Like they were all like, everything about the movie seemed like a liberal complaint.
Starting point is 01:18:15 Like it sucks now that Clinton's president, everything's on fire. And then it only gets worse. We can't curse no more. This movie asked a lot of questions and did not do a lot of answers. I feel like, Gatoban, would you recommend seeing it? I know I would.
Starting point is 01:18:35 Yes, recommend. Strong recommend. Yeah, I mean, if the choice is that or like winter's bone. Demolition, man. Demolition. Even though Sandra Boe is gonna get a winter's bone. Ha ha! Because? Demolition man. Demolition man. Even though Sandra Boe is gonna get a winter bone, right? Yeah. With that John Spartan, I stick.
Starting point is 01:18:54 And by that we mean her father's penis in her body. Also, also Sting did the theme song. Oh my God, you're right about that. And I wonder if Sting asked, like, they were like, hey Sting, you know, Central Bullocks characters like in the 90s things, we're thinking about putting up a poster of you. No, it's all right, don't do it, don't fucking.
Starting point is 01:19:16 We really want to probably feature 10 Sumner's Tales. Nope, that's fine, that's cool, I'll get you it away. Hey, here's a Red Hot Chili Peppers poster. You sure it's Soul Cages? You don't want us to put Soul Cages up? I'm fine, I'm cool, I'll get you it away. Hey, here's a red hot chili pepper sauce. You sure it's soul cages? You don't want us to put soul cages up? No, I'm fine, I'm fine. I'm gonna keep you having tantric sex with my wife. You cannot put any of my movies in.
Starting point is 01:19:31 Really, you sure? No soul cages? Absolutely not. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no. I saw that tour, guys. Saw that tour. Just saying. Do you think he does the theme song in concert? Like, I kind of...
Starting point is 01:19:44 That's the encore is lit. No, wait a second. Can somebody settle something? I think he does the theme song and concert. I got kind of the on course with no way to say can somebody can somebody settle something? It did he write it for this or was that a police song? It is a police song that was appropriated for this. All right. Oh, oh, even worse thing. You did it. You did it.
Starting point is 01:20:04 You did it the best way you could. Well, thank you guys so much for coming. Give a big hand to the White Pack!

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