How Did This Get Made? - Matinee Monday: Serenity LIVE! (w/ Nick Kroll)

Episode Date: July 3, 2023

HDTGM all-star Nick Kroll (Big Mouth, Human Resources) joins Paul, June, and Jason to discuss the 2019 neo-noir thriller Serenity starring Matthew McConaughey & Anne Hathaway. Recorded LIVE from Austin City Limits at the Moody Theater, they talk about the big twist that comes way too early, McConaughey being so wet throughout the movie, the sex scene on the boat, and more. (Originally released 06/20/2019) HDTGM is going on tour this August! Tix on sale now at hdtgm.comFor more Matinee Monday content, visit Paul's YouTube page: https://www.youtube.com/c/PaulScheerFollow Paul on Letterboxd: https://letterboxd.com/paulscheer/HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: https://discord.gg/paulscheerCheck out Paul and Rob Huebel live on Twitch (https://www.twitch.tv/friendzone) every Thursday 8-10pm ESTSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael here: listen.earwolf.com/deepdiveSubscribe to Unspooled with Paul Scheer and Amy Nicholson here: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledCheck out The Jane Club over at www.janeclub.comCheck out new HDTGM merch over at https://www.teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmWhere to find Jason, June & Paul:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on Twitter

A little prayer. God grant me the serenity to accept things I don't understand. The courage to finish this almost two-hour film and the wisdom to ask, how did this get made? We saw serenity, so you know what that means. I'm gonna run it this is gap Hey everybody everybody everybody Now it's time for hard to defeat me I'm gonna kick it man What would I've done to hurt you?

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We are here live at the Moody Theater in Austin City, let me just say we cannot be more excited to bring your hometown hero, Matthew McConaughey, to you in a way that you've probably never have seen him. Wow, wow, wow, this movie. Serenity is kind of like Moby Dick with Sims. If you've not seen it, it's about a man named Harper Dill. Who is? Great, you guys remember it. I did not

It's a man on a boat called serenity chasing a fish called justice and Then shit gets weird and then shit gets really weird We're gonna talk about it all the big twist that comes way too early. Well, break it down, and I'm going to break it down with my two co-hosts. Please welcome, ladies and gentlemen. Jason Mann, Zookas. What's up, jerks? How we doing, Austin? Yeah, we have a floor. We've got a mezzanine.

And then we've got you, mother fuckers in the balcony. Yeah! That's right! One of the best balconies we have ever had. Oh yeah! And we left weapons in the balcony! They will find their ways down to the orchestra. We're doing reverse the raid.

It starts from the top and gets all the way to the bottom. Jason. Paul? First thoughts on serenity? Oh, I'll not lie. I did not care for this. This was, I knew there was a twist coming. I didn't know what it was. And then I was

like a couple minutes into it when that skinny guy in the glasses came up and I was like, I think I see what's happening here. I was like, Jumanji did this better. Oh, Jumanji! Oh, Jumanji, if only this were more Jumanji. Ladies and gentlemen, Jason's on my only co-host. I have another co-host. Please welcome June Diane Rapio! How are you, June? I'm good. How are you, Pa? Very well. June. Yes.

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But what I was gonna say is the sex scene on the boat. I had to watch on a plane with others. This is a Paul Sheer dilemma. Every time I've seen an intense sex scene, someone is looking over at me on an airplane. Oh, this is, you pay for that. Well, sure. You pay for that experience. Well, let me just say something, and then obviously we have to bring out our guest, but I did appreciate I actually did like that sex scene and I did appreciate

McConaughey's flexibility. We need to get back to that. We're going to make sure that's there for now. Okay, let's unpack that later and let's bring out our guest. Our guest, how did this get made all-star? One of our favorite people to have on the show, you know him from shows like The League, The Cruel Show, and of course Big Mouth, please welcome Nick Crowe! Welcome, Nick. Nick have a seat.

So Nick, you know, we assigned you to watch this film. Yeah. And... Did Nina signing, saw it opening weekend. You were the one. I was the one person. Just general thoughts, first thoughts out of the game. I mean, for me, this is my favorite Matthew McConaughey and half-away released in January.

Video game thriller film that I've seen this year. Very well said. We are here, I'll look at it, said in Austin, and there's a person in the front row with a giant sign that says the rules have changed. I appreciate that. I appreciate artwork. All right, so let's get it. Paul, Paul, that is not artwork. I just want to be very clear. That, what that man did was not artwork. Now. He just wrote words on some oak tag and is holding it up so that we'll notice him and give his life relevance. Well, but also for the people at home who can't see that sign, the rules have changed. It

looks like an extra in like die hard six during the apocalypse. Yeah, some guy holding like a crazy person like, the rules have changed. And McClane just like runs by him real quick. But then that guy is pausing it all the time. Check it out. I would have loved if we'd done this show, all of us having fishing rods.

And just casting everyone's in a while into the audience. That's how we're gonna get the questions from the audience. We're gonna throw. To start with the fishing, I have never thought of fishing as a particularly masculine sport.

I'm like, oh. What about Ernest Hemingway's, the old man in the sea? A quintessential tale of man versus nature. Maybe I'm disconnected from it, but it just seems like that's for the elderly. Like, I don't look at that as... Well, I will say that when this movie started,

I didn't quite understand what I was watching. And in a way that like, tonally, I was like, is this a horror? Is this a thriller? Is this a cat abduction movie? A jiggle of sex film? A tuna-based moby dick? Like, what am I watching?

Well, part of the trouble there is there's so much time spent in the beginning of the movie watching that fishing line. And the difference between, the difference is so minuscule between that line, not moving and moving and moving a little bit more. It's insane, there's like two full minutes of screen time, just watching a tiny... G-G-G-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G-E-G Justice. Justice, the fish. Justice the fish. Is that that McConaughey has a personal relationship with it, like, like, A-hab does the movie dick or whatever. But it's just a tuna fish, right?

Yeah. It's not like a special fish. It just seems like a large tuna fish. My understanding is if he were to catch it, he would just sell it for a lot of money. Right. Like all the other fish he catches in sales, question mark?

Yeah. The fish didn't wrong him. No. And there was nothing about justice, the tuna fish, that, like, there was no history behind this fish. No, this fish did not, yeah. No. There was no, I mean, I believe, I believe, yeah.

It was like, oh, nobody here could catch it. When I was watching the movie, also on the plane, blasting loud, like, through a Bluetooth speaker. Yeah. And I wrote down like two minutes ago. But was headphones, no thank you. Bose speak. Yes.

I was like, did a tuna fish kill that phone? No thank you. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, did a tuna fish kill his son? That's great. That's what it seemed like. That's what it seemed like. That's what it seemed like. It felt like the jaws or the mobi dick, like he seemed to have a vendetta against a fish. But that just made me sad.

Because I was like, I don't think he had a vendetta. I think he was like, this fish will make me happy. Like, that was the goal, like, if he gets this, like, because he, no, yeah. Knowing what we know now about the movie. Yeah. Does he make any sense that a young boy would conjure up a tuna fish? Well, here's my question. My question is this.

Okay, because I was thinking about this from the video game point of view, because I have lately been playing a lot of red-dead redemption. I was thinking the same thing. Okay, calm down. I'm not like where this is going. Everybody here works for Rockstar Games. You've been to my video game, Shut Up. But in the game, I've become obsessed specifically

with fishing, with hunting and fishing within the game. So my thing was, there are special fish you can catch in the game that are rare. And otherwise, you just catch a normal fish. You cook them up, you eat them. I'm 46. Yeah. You've revealed two months. So I was like, did the kid build a game

where there was a boss fish that was like, the hardest fish to catch, and that's what it is? Well, go ahead. Well, my video games end with Sega Genesis's Echo the Dolphin. So I see it from the fish's point of view. That's the way. To me, that's whose movie this really is. It starts on his eye.

It starts on his eye. Does it? Yeah, right, because it goes into the boy and then it goes in the fish. But I got lost in that first thing, because it's like, oh, he's dead. Or like, what is that? Like, what?

He's dead, and now he's just hanging out under. And then it goes away. I found it very confusing. It's a tricky movie because you have, when you know the twist, which by the way, should we just break the twist down just a second? Yeah, I was going to say, like, one thing about this movie is it has a very big twist, and we'll get into it right now. But it's done as if someone saw a movie with a twist twist and in the middle of them telling you about the movie,

oh, fuck it, I'll just say what the twist is. Like, they don't wait for the proper moment to reveal it. It's like the narrator is like, all right, they're dead, they're dead. Oh, wait, they didn't. So they reveal this twist so many times that he is in a video game, that he is a cat, that, that, that they only real characters in the movie are the son and the, the Anne Hathaway as the wife and

Jason. Well, she's not real. In the, in the other room apparently. Oh, yes. Okay. Sorry. And I'm assuming in the other room. Right., yes, okay. Sorry, and I'm assuming in the other room, the only three real people. The only three real people are taking place in

are not part of Plymouth Island, like the fishing community, where the other one was my favorite, it was the radio station. That's always telling you where you need to go next. Like if you're in a video gaming, you start driving someplace, it will, the radio station will be like,

remember, you gotta get to the lighthouse before the ship leaves. Blah blah blah. But I'm like, that's where's the lighthouse. That literally is how I figured out the twist of the movie. I was like, it sounds like a video game like Rance F. Auto radio station. I was like, oh. And then I was like, now I'm in. So the kid, the young boy, who is Matthew McConaughey's biological son, Matthew McConaughey has died in the war and half away his wife has remarried. And the boy and half way are being subjected to such horrendous abuse at home that the boy has retreated into building an idyllic video game where he has created a virtual version of his father who is constantly trying to go fishing.

Right because he has a memory of the one time when he was three years old that they fished not on a boat, but on a dock, not on an island, but on a kind of mountainous area like lake. So he created something exactly not like that. To relive it. And the video game I have problems with, because it's really just a bunch of mini games. It's not really a full game.

Also, I did not know it was a video game. What? I thought. Oh. Oh, I love it. Now. What? What? Did you know we were watching a movie? What? What a movie. I don't know from video games.

I told Paul when we got married, you may never play video games in front of me. Never. That was kind of old man. That was your only vow. She told me, what did she tell me? You said, you will never play video games in front of me? I do. It's so masturbatory and gross to see someone

watch play video games. And when Paul and I first started dating, I think you had a chair. No, I had a headset I think you had a chair. No I had a headset on. You had a headset and I saw it and I said get that out of my house and you will never play a video game in front of you. She said there is nothing more unattractive than a man playing a video game. I'm sorry there is.

And then storm. There's not a fuck thank you. And by the way, it can, like, is this play a single? No, I'll tell you about 10 reasons here. Let it happen on your own time and on your own dime. I do not want to see it. So I genuinely, I don't know video games.

But you want Paul to go to pay to play video games in some CD video game place? You're going to go to Diane Lane's house and play my video game. Don't bring it into my house. So what I thought, I didn't know it was a video game because I didn't see any of the video game things, all of the accessories.

I thought it was like Oregon Trail, like a computer game. So yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, so, so. So I knew it was a game of course. It seemed also like it to James Point. Yes, the game. You know, Mike, he was constantly programming the game and not playing the game.

That's why, yeah. All his friends were poed. They weren't like, dude, dude, dude. Yeah, it was just coding. So is the game ever being played or is he just building the game? That's the existential question of life. Hey, man, hey, man.

As Matthew McConaughey himself once said, we're either building the game or we're playing it, brother. If you're not building the game or playing the game, you are the game. Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, the rapper the game. All right, so you just felt like he was a computer game. That's where you were kind of thinking of it.

Yeah, I thought it was more like that. The thing that was very difficult for me to understand is why both of these actors signed on to make this movie? Yes! I wrote that! I wrote that! What? I wrote was this script amazing because this is bananas to me.

So easy. Or to watch. This is wild. I can see them being sold on like it's a classic noir. You're the you're the Sam Spade. She's the femme fatale. She needs your help to bump off the guy and double in the community.

Pablo Blum. It has Hitchcock elements. You know what unspooled? We don't need to hear about it. Yeah, we got it. We don't need to hear about. You watch the guy. Really? Yeah. Hitchcock. We don't need to hear about it. Really?

Yeah, in which hook? Which hook? I mean, there's so many. I mean, on the list, there's a handful vertigo, one of the films that I think is getting a lot of attention as of late. Moving up the list, if you would dare. Move out. Have you guys seen that show, Goes? Moving up the list.

Have you seen that movie Hitchescock? And it's just a nude willspin. Yeah. Do you want us to cut that out of the podcast? No, I want you to double down on it. But I do think, weirdly, in you explaining the plot of the movie just now, it was much more understandable than watching the movie. And it is weird because the twist comes in just like an hour and five minutes. But I was like, I cannot believe this reveal is coming

at this point in the movie. Well, you still have about an hour left. But here's my question. He developed this video game. And the choices that he's made are interesting. Like, he's made his dad into a whore. Yeah. Or it's sex for money.

I was actually glad once I realized that this was the boy's idea of it, because I was just like, are women paying to give blow jobs? That's just not something I've seen. Real question though, are they? I mean, I don't... Because this is huge news for me. I need to send in voices. But I'm going to need some demo addresses. I was like, oh, that makes sense. This is this young boy's idea of what that might look like.

Because Diane Lane is so kind of blown away by their sex that she's always great for her, but yet she's paying him. Here's what I'm... Here's what I was also trying to understand. In the game is the... Okay, is the son programming the game in order to create a facsimile of his father? Or is he himself working out his issues about whether or not he's going to kill his father or continue to be distracted by, because the setup is he's either going to be continued

to be distracted by the fishing and just keep playing the game and check out from the world, or he's going to take action and kill his father, right? Right. His target. His target. His target is his own father. out from the world, or he's gonna take action and kill his father, right? Right, so the kids... His surrogate. The boy's surrogate is his own father. Then he programs himself to fuck. To fuck, Danieline, and then fuck his own mother? That's part of the game.

But at some point he introduces his mother to the game and he's like, God a fucker. But... But... And I know that you knew like that sex scene, I wanna dig into the moment where he, he literally puts himself inside her, then immediately jumps out and goes, I win! Yeah!

I win! What? What did you win? And what was that? Was that just a part of the game? Like a mini-game, dude? Is that like an extra life? Did he get like, like, yeah, I wish something had come up and been like,

bleak? Like, you know, or like the, like the spurt emoji would have been like, bleak, you're done. And then like, your health gets depleted, but your happiness goes up. I mean, that was. He also programs his mom to call her step, her new husband, daddy, over and over.

Again, it's not like that one. Every line that Anne Hathaway or Matthew McConaughey speaks in the movie is written by a 12-year-old. That's just true. Right. Everyone up there lines. That's fair. By the way, full disclosure, it's so is this podcast.

And he's right there. But where the- Where the movie gets- He's a gentleman Jacob Trimbley. I just thought it would be funny to save the Hitchcock thing because, you know, Hitch is a character from movie and he is a cock and Hitchcock. Uh, the- I would like it if like a single light went up

and Trimbley was up there like, gave us the old gladiator thumbs down. I would like it if like a single light went up and a trumbler was up there like Gave us the old gladiator thumbs down, but here's where the the pockets interesting to me But then these characters I'm amazing got interesting. Oh Well when you dissect it because then all these characters have become sentient So there the characters in the game are saying no no, this is a fishing catch a cat game. This isn't a killing dude game. And then they're trying to stop the killing, but are they trying to stop the silence? I think the key, my assumption would be that the kid is now programming other characters

to be the voice of reason against himself, his increasing desire to take, because if you were to look at all of the kids scenes cut together, what's happening in the background is escalating to a degree that is terrifying. So I think he, I'm assuming he's programming the game to keep trying to calm himself down, keep trying to calm himself down, keep going fishing. But yeah, he put in the most volatile part of the game, which is his mother and stepfather.

So if he's... Yeah, I mean, I agree with Jason. I think he's on a journey to save his childhood. And he's trying to figure out... You guys are so nice. And I think he is trying to figure out whether he should kill his own dad too. The choices he makes that I found fascinating though are the choice to make his stepfather super rich because we find out later on he's not.

He's just a construction. Yeah, he works in construction. And here's my bigger problem. They make him Greek. They make the villain Greek, which I don't care for. Here we go. No, thank you. Also Jason Clark. Jason Clark playing a Greek guy? What the fuck? Get him out of here.

But he's got a lot of hair and a big stupid beard. Fine. Alright. Wait, so go ahead, Gin, you were saying. No, there's some also wish fulfillment, I think, on the part of the young boy, because he makes his own world and family members super rich. I don't think he is from what we've seen in his own home. And they don't look or sound anything

like the characters we see in his house. So I did find that sweet about him. Did he wanted to have them have a great life outside of it? Well, just that he wanted them to be rich. Okay. Did what's the control? What's the control? I'm in his aspirational wealth.

I hope I was like, oh, that's sweet. I mean, that's what's so crazy about watching this movie in real time. Is it seems so? As opposed to what else? As opposed to what else? What other kind of time do you watch movies? I mean, knowing where the twist is. What the twist is.

It's so hard to watch a movie in the past tense. But looking back on it now, I'm like, is that where they just playing the part as they thought a 12 year old would want them to play it? Oh, wow. Oh, wow. They are certainly playing. And a lot of the other, what is an NPC

is a non-playing character right? An RPG, right? Oh. Yes? Thank you. So those are the characters who are like the bartender. and NPC is a non-playing character right? Oh, yes? Thank you. So those are the characters who are like the bartender, the bait shop, woman who works at the bait shop, all those people who are frequently appearing

to you in video games to be like, oh, hey, I've got an improved gun if you want to buy it. It's just, all you need to do is break my cousin out of jail. And I'm like, fuck you, fuck your cousin. I'm out of jail and I'm like fuck you fuck your cousin I'm out of here. I got to go catch a cougar Well, but but all those characters have are on a track They're all saying repetitive dialogue west world ask. Yes But all those characters that was like I everybody in those interactions are acting like video game characters are acting with a

Artificiality here is new lures. Yeah, here's you know, they're coming in But yet, but they also are sentient because that's the guy the guy in the suit then starts to break down and goes and is saying What's your sign say the rules of change? He's obviously it's a game now, why is this person able to do... Like, this movie then should be about characters in a video game realizing that, you know, it's the matrix, basically, for video games. But the characters in the game are trying to self-preserve. They're like, no, no, no.

If he kills him, then that means in real life, the boy's dad dies and an eye sees to exist. So I need to keep this boy big. I think the characters have that motivation. What? I don't think the characters have that motivation. I agree because the suited guy at one point says, like, I don't know, however the game goes, the game goes, it says something big. Exactly.

They're not, they, it's not good enough. One of the things is we're struggling with the fact that we're trying to make sense out of something that they broad-stroked to make a movie, and we're trying to hold them accountable for a good movie, and in fact, they tricked us into watching trash. And we have now made you do it.

Eat shit Austin. You eat it, it's too late. I also like you. If you think about the boy as the author of this whole thing, a boy does this kid love his dad's ass. Yes, yes. He is making his dad go naked. So much.

My God. His bones are like honestly third build in the movie. Yeah. And I love Matthew McConaughey. I love his acting. I love his vibe. I like those Lincoln ads. I'm down for the whole thing.

Oh, real. Me too. Me and this. And I just got a great body. He's got all of it. But Me too. Me too. And I was like, I just got a great body. He's got all of it. But I was looking in his buns and I was like, he's got cute little baby buns. Oh, they were very cute.

I want to straight up spoon this dude. I am on board for these buns, huh? I loved it. These buns. You know what you mean, Nick? I'm not, I said this before in, Nick. I'm not, I've said this before in the podcast. I'm not into buzz. You're not into boys, buns, men's buns.

June's not a bunch. June's not a bunch, man. A little bit strange. Like, I don't know many men. Maybe the women in the audience feel differently. You just want to see balls. That's all I want to see. I just see enough of that.

Yes, there is so much McConaughey water-based nudity. McConaughey is wet. I would say 80% of this film. And as after- He is wet when he's in water, he's wet out of water. Yes. He's wet in his kitchen, he's wet. There's a lot.

There's a scene where he's meant to have come in from the rain. And he's now inside. And every take, he must have been like throwing entire bucket of water at me. Because he is drenched into the bone. And it's like literally marking out his amazing cut body. It is a wet t-shirt contest in real life. And I'm on board for his winning.

He is winning that wet t-shirt contest. By the way and I'm on board for the news winning. He is winning that wet t-shirt contest. By the way, give me those McConaughey nips! But also, I like this the shot that the freeze-frame, the Sturvana of McConaughey and the water. Look at his arms and they just look like a gorgeous holla. A braided ball. A braided bread. A braided bread.

Just put an egg wash on those triceps. Come on. By the way, I want back on the back. A braided bow. A braided Jumbo. Just put an egg wash on those triceps. Come on. By the way, I want a snack on them then. Yeah, I want snack on them. You want a snack on the object then? I did have an issue with Matthew saying, I'm going to go take a shower and then jump into the ocean

because I would say, that's a bath. I agree. I would argue that's the most honest 12-year-old authorship of something. I agree. I don't want to take a shower. But I wish my shower could be going swimming. By the way, when my dad showers, he goes swimming. By the way, and then he looks

at his saltwater, in the saltwater, so he's not getting clean. This movie, by the way, I will see the scene where he then has to like climb up that cliff, space back up to his trail. No, because you know what he does? He just, he, what's it called when you like hyper jump to the next location? In a game. Oh, like a gaze in, like a fast travel. He fast travels back to his house. The movie takes place in Florida,

which was kind of surprising to me. It's off the coast of Miami, but there's a part in the film when he's trying to figure out if he's in a video game. He grabs a map, frantically stabs a part in the film when he's trying to figure out if he's in a video game. He grabs a map Frantically stabs a knife in one side puts a watch time to spend on spreading out the map so it wouldn't curl over and then the map only has 1 teeny tiny piece put in which is the the city that he's in and the rest is blank. He's like,

oh, so wait, this person never look at a map his entire life. He's a fisherman and has never seen it. By the way, within the context of the movie, there are other maps in the world. We have seen maps already in the world. And so it does not seem like they are just alone in space. And why also, well, this gets back to the question though. What is his sense of his own history within the video game? It's only the history that the sun has given him against, he has no agency.

These are not real. But so does the sun though? These are more choices of the sun's making of his video game that I don't understand. Does the sun think that his mom did start dating this other man while his dad was in Iraq? Because that's the story that Matthew McConaughey had. I'm assuming how about that line

where she was like, you said I was finally old enough. Oh, the sun wrote that. It is like it. Again, the sun wrote that line of dialogue for his mother to say to his own surrogate in the show. So, question for you. Is the son making Jason Clark choke his mom? Yes.

Yeah, Paul, yeah. This kid needs help. Yes. Yeah Paul, yes. This kid needs help. Yes, I mean like what else? I mean like he's probably jerking off to it. That was great. And then if you fucking assholes think this kid doesn't have a blanket over his head jerking off, you think he's just coding under there? You fucking morons.

So this kid is jaying down to the video game. And also did the son give Jason Clark that truly undefinedable accent? Ha-ha! Because it's not Greek. I thought it was the best representation of Greek people on camera ever. Paul, I'm going to need to talk to you after the show.

Next, next to TikTok, man. Thank you. TikTok, man's real name is Alex Papagodigethis. Very, very very very Greek man There's there are a lot of questions in the film I Also the question that I also have is like why do we see a demon hunsu fully like in a nice outfit coming out at the end of the game like I was wondering is that character? Church it I think it's church. It's a church. Oh, he's like, I think he's a church. Because that's his wife.

Okay, because I thought what was happening was they were all game prepared to die because when the game matrixes out at the end, like he's like, I'm, first of all, the boy is computer programming from his prison cell. Duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh. On the phone with his dad, no computer in sight. They're having a full conversation. She's like, happening, where the boy and the dad are connected within the game, and they can hear each other under the water.

And I understand. You don't feel connected to your creator? What's that? Yeah. So basically, the sun is God. That's right. And yeah, no, it is a deep religious allegory. But wait, where in Christ?

Fuck God's wife. Come on, Texas. We're going with this. Where Christ builds a scenario, a simulation, where he fucks his own mother. So not God's wife, I guess Mary, the Virgin Mary Christ takes her virginity. Is that what's happening? Texas, are you on board?

Is, ooh, we're getting there. Ooh. I'm gonna stay out of this one. Yeah. Well, can you, can anyone take a stab at the ending? So when the game falls apart and they reunited, what is actually happening in real life at that moment? Well, I had a question about this too,

because it seems like the boy makes a decision to kill his father. He takes the knife out of the tackle box and then leaves the room and then the video game goes on. So he's not controlling Matthew McCannie to kill the dad in that moment He's left the computer there So both are acting independently of each other and I think he just goes the other room and stabs him in the heart

Yeah, no, yes, by the way one stab wound like one shot straight to the heart and he's done so But then what happens after that? He gets put in... Juvenile detention. Juvenile detention, he's gonna be putting the custody of his mom, but in the meantime, he makes a computer call with his brain to his dad in the video game, in the computer game,

which is still running, not confiscated as evidence in a trial for manslaughter. And then connects with him virtually. So I guess now he's in the game. He could have been in the game from... I feel that the game is... I mean, the movie rather is trying to tell us or trying to give us an emotional payoff as if McConauge is this dead father

who's crossed over to the other side. As if the movie is set up like a ghost scenario. It's like, yeah, almost. I feel like the movie is trying to play with us in a fraudulent way to suggest that it's ghost. And he's just unable to move on, but he can connect with his son. But again, he's just a artificial construct that the son is created.

But they want us to have an emotional payoff. And I cry to him. And he's like, Dad, Dad. And he's like, yeah, Patrick, it's me. And I'm like, what? And I cried. I cried at the end. I cried when that boy ran that dock.

I cried too. I cried too. I cried too. I mean, I cried tears of come out my dick. But it was emotional. You cried when he was running down the... And now he looks... How am I funny? He's so happy he gets his son in the video game. So he programmed a character of himself to go in the game and run and hug the character

that he built to be his father. And that was not about it because he was so yearning for that connection. I thought that the kid, I thought that the kid that brought him good luck would have been him. Because like, hey, I'm here to help. Quit my job pumping gas in Miami.

Okay. But why would he just put himself in the game at the end? Also, you know what, when they open the big blank map, Miami should have been there. Everybody's talking about Miami, so you should be able to be like, great, we're the here, Miami, right there. Miami with all their beautiful mountains. Like, if it made like a movie like Sixth Sense,

like has like linear sense to it. Like if you add it up with the reveal, you can go back and everything makes sense. But like in this movie, they're constantly changing. You're not gonna be able to do that here. No, they're constantly changing. They're giving you scenes for characters who are alone without Matthew McConaughey's character.

Those characters don't exist without him. You know, they don't have interior lives that were following. Well, this movie's like, if, M.I. Channel on M.A.T.6 sense, like M.A.T.A.T.A.T.N. and Channel on make this one. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha So quick, so quick, so quick, spoilers for you know what? Let's just run down spoilers Darth Vader is Luke's father Han Solo dies in the new Star Wars movies in the prestige Hugh Jackman plays twins guys let's do

them all the Hulk dies in Avengers Endgame. Anyway, so... Uh-uh-uh. Um... So... Ray is Vader's daughter. So... But when he finds out, when Bruce Willis finds out, there's this moment where he's like... He sees his whole life, it all makes sense. He understands why his wife has been ignoring him. And this panic and shock.

And then when this fucking nerd linger comes over to his house and says, we're in a video game. He goes, he goes. For what is arguably a room full of nerd lingers? To just, I'm in a banger, I'm in a banger. Hammer this guy. This fucking nerd like, he's so aggressively like, nerd, when he wipes his glasses like.

Oh, that immediately, yeah, as I was talking. That sound effect was crazy. Yeah. And I have glasses, I wear them. I never, ee, ee, ee. So when this guy tells him the whole reveal, he goes, well, what the fuck, man? No reaction, not like you don't exist.

You're a video game. You're like, fuck it. All right, so I'm gonna go fish in Amara like I never Landed with him and I think I again, I'm all in on the maha makani train I think he's great and everything and I actually loved watching him do some of that solo acting in the corn Full of he is cremes out into the ocean a number of times in the city And I just loved it.

I just loved it. He is feasting on these scenes. I'm just, he is so easy to watch. Oh, yeah. He made me feel comfortable. In a lesser actor's hands, this movie would have been hard to watch, but I'm like, I'm in. I kind of feel like it's going to work out.

Now, you know what I mean? He's like, he's cool, I'm a video game. We're all video games. But it really is true. Whatever, let's kill somebody. He's fine, our son, I don't care. He's so compelling to watch. It's so true.

It's so true because he's so compelling to watch. You're watching scenes that if he wasn't as interesting and electric to watch, you would be focused on how this scene does not make sense in continuity of the movie you're watching. But I'm like, I don't care. All I want is to watch him yell at this guy and never talk to the old man at the bar

and then become the old man at the bar. Why? Don't know? That's what's weird. You walk away from this movie not having any idea what happened, but having enjoyed watching him near a body of water, Why? Don't know? If that's what's weird, you walk away from this movie not having any idea what happened, but having enjoyed watching him near a body of water, watching him pour himself a drink. I love, oh, I love, give me a bottle of rum.

I just gave you a bottle of rum. I already drank it. Yes! Give him another bottle of rum. This is exciting. Oh, I can think about it. Stop trying to harsh his mellow. Come on!

Let him live! How many cigarettes he had to smoke in that movie? There was a lot of cigarette acting in this movie. There was a lot. There was times where there was so many cigarettes on screen. I was like, ooh, this is, like, when Anne Hathaway and him are both smoking cigarettes at each other, I was like, wow, this is, I'm in.

The age difference is pretty shocking. I mean, I guess not for Hollywood, but he's about the... Who's age difference? Macon Hey and Ann Hathaway. And Ann Hathaway, she's about like 35, 36. Oh yeah. He's about 50.

And they went to high school together. Yeah. I wrote down, they went to high school together, question mark, question mark. Can you imagine Macon Hey and Princess Diaries, like the two of them? I think she thinks they went to high school together, question mark, question mark. Can you imagine McCawney and Princess Diaries like the two of them? I think she thinks they went to high school together, but he's just really worrisen and he's just still hanging around. Also, well that's what he does in fact like about high school girls.

He's like, I keep getting older, they keep getting younger. Yeah. Uh oh, I got one of them pregnant. Uh oh, I'm going to war. Uh oh, I'm dead now. I'm a video game. By the way, uh oh, no. Reboot, reboot.

I think is, uh oh, I'm a video game, a T-shirt maybe. I don't know. I still think the T-shirt might be McConee's face under Navana body and just serenity. I think that's pretty good. And with a video with an old NES cartridge instead of a dollar bill in front. That's pretty good. And so Hitch's cock is not gonna be.

Well, Nick. How did this go to me? How did this go to me? Let's go to the audience and see what you have to say about. You get how it's like? Yeah, we'll see. Well, we'll see what we got. All right, so if you have a question about serenity that you want an? Yeah, we'll see. We'll see what we've got. All right, so if you have a question about serenity

that you want an answer to, let us know. Raise your hand, and we'll come over to you. All right, here's somebody right here. I'll kind of reach over to you. What's your name and your question? I'm David, and my question is, what's up with those pans whenever it revealed, like, Ann Hathaway, was there back and then it panned around to the front.

Yeah, there was a couple of these moments in the film, especially when you meet Anne Hathaway, where the camera does almost a matrix-y move, but of no action. It's just of a person walking, like, boom. Broom. I feel like they're trying to do some sort of, like, video-gain-y reveal, or some sort of,

it's supposed to feel I feel like not natural. I feel like a lot of that stuff was meant to be telling you you were in a different reality, not real reality. I was saying it does feel sorry before we get to the next question that it feels like they were writing this movie after they finished shooting that day They would then be like what are what are we gonna do tomorrow? It's a rise you to find out and then they wrote a scene and they're like fuck. I think that might work Do we still have the boat? I feel like the movie all we've got is the boat

The movie also has a feeling of a video game cutscene that like you never watch It's like got it fast forward fast forward. I got it got it got it And I just want to go back to fishing. I would like to see him fish more sir your question you fast forward video games The cut scene there are like plot scenes in between All right, sorry, hold on one sec. Let me explain. So you know in Oregon Trail, when you've bought your salted pork. Yeah, and you got all your potatoes. Sometimes you get, you finish a mission, right? And you're like, and then you break, you go back to the boss.

And you're like, I did that thing you asked. And he's like, great, but bad news. The zombies have attacked the North Quadrant. You get on a helicopter and get out of here at five minutes soldier. And you're like, and you're fast forward that until like the exposition It basically jump but in the next state with them the boss will be like things are crazy at home. That's why I'm acting out here I just got a dear John letter from my wife. She's fucking her Pilates instructor

I guess the reason I become such a mean person is because of the issues I'm having with my wife at home. While I'm out here murdering ravagers, my wife is at home being ravaged. I am murderer. Oh, what a dumb movie. Sir, your name, your question. How many times do I say just before I stop, so sorry, before I'm nice, Cumentee shirt, I like that.

Oh, let's continue. What, oh, you want to go? Okay, this is Clint. Yes. They really emphasize artificial intelligence in this movie. Is it less like a video game than more like a recreation of the dad where the kid is trying to relive his life with him? He's trying to regain his...

Ship, man, I wish you were part of the rewrite on this one. Smartest question we ever got. Here's the reality, guys. If your question is related to the movie not making sense, you can put your hands down. We're not going to know. We're not going to crack it. It's flawed from the go.

It feels like the audience wants us to have answers. And we do not. It's not going to crack it. It's flawed from the go. It feels like the audience wants us to have answers. Yeah. And we do not. It's not going to happen. Paul, as I believe, headed towards the mezzanine. So prepare yourselves, mezzanine. I need to catch my breath. That was a lot of flights.

All right, sir, your name, your question. Jacob, and my question is, can we talk about how racist it was that the maid at the hotel was called Consuela? And apparently she's a real big gossip. Well everybody in, in Plymouth is a gossip. Yes, yes. And there was like, there's also like, a Jiamon Hunts who's in the, in the movie is like the

voice of reason black man Who's like always got to tell him to do the right thing or whatever? There's a lot of like putting people into categories that are just very limited in that one Let me ask you guys this. What did you think of that? Amestad reunion we haven't seen the two of them together since Amestad They're back on a boat. They're having a lot of fun Was Makana Han Am, Amastad? Yeah, he's the main.

Oh, I didn't remember that. All right, it's the same boat. Hi, how are you? Your name and your question. Hi, Mike. I got the mic. OK. My name is Anna, and my question is,

do you think it's possible that instead of it being an AI that developed consciousness, that it's like that instead of it being an AI that like developed consciousness that it's like the spirit or like soul of the dad came into the video game. So then in the end when they hug and stuff, it's meaningful and not just like super sad. Ooh, Anna Ray. Oh, okay, hearted video game. Very cool. Very cool.

Okay. Very cool Very cool Okay, I'm gonna I don't I don't know Anna and I it's a such a good question I might I would lean towards no because there are no souls General you don't believe that the human spirit has a soul. I don't believe I do oh Fuck man Jason as a soul? I don't believe I do. Oh. Fuck, man. Jason. Is this why I'm single? Jason. That's a horrible thing to say. Yeah, probably. Yeah. So you don't think we're all connected in some way after our...

You've looked it in some way afterwards? Yeah. Afterwards, no, no, no, we're done so. I think once we die straight up, we go in the ground or wherever else and it is over, baby. All right, I'm in the game. I think it is the great dark sleep. Why are we clapping for this? How did this get made?

Tackling the big issues. Who would have thought Serenity would have gotten us here? I'm in the most done movie.. Here we go another question right here. Darius. Question. Alright, question is, so when Jim and Hansu's character, Duke, I love that you know that. Yeah, I know a lot of that. Matt McCawden, hey, Blamesom at the beginning for not catching fish and he goes, is because ever since your wife died. Yeah. It's like, what the fuck, man? Yeah.

And then afterwards, he talks to the chum lady or the bait lady or whatever. And he's like, she's like, oh, you blamed him. And he's like, no, I didn't blame him. I blame you. Because you put a hex on me. And there was like, what the hell is this part? So my question is, sorry, that's a buildup. My question is, since Matt McConaughey's character is really mad?

Matt, do you know him? Like so familiar I'm born and raised baby Austin Texas. No, my question is. Everybody who lives in Austin call us Everybody know McConaughey. Oh boy. I bet he's getting a lot of texts right now. Hey bro, get over to the moody right now. If any of you guys know, I'm tellin' tell his ass to give him my number.

All right, so, question is, since he, the boy created that character, and Mammicone is so angry, characters are so angry. So my question is, is the boy super angry at his dad? So is he just pissed at him for leaving him? Or is this like a representation? No, I think he's created a character who feels helpless and hopeless to affect change in his life.

Or like the boy. Or does the boy not support the troops? LAUGHTER You think that's what it is? You think he's mad at his dad because his dad died in the war and he's a fan of dads who don't die in the war? Thus making America great again? Texas, question mark, question mark. No, I think the boy is letting his own feelings of helplessness bleed into McConaughey's character's helplessness. And they think ultimately as a child whose processing grief he feels unlucky. But he's also sabotaging the dad because he makes the game.

Like why wouldn't he give the dad joy just to catch the fish? No, I think that's for himself. The game is for himself, not for the game. Like why wouldn't he give the dad joy just to catch the fish? No, I think that's for himself. The game is for himself, not for the dad. Oh, but the dad becomes sentient. No. The dad is not sentient. Dad does not exist. The dad really? You must be kidding. The dad eventually exists in an AI realm by a pause. What? No? Does the dad never exist in an A.I. wrong? The dad is all Matthew McConaughey, top to bottom T to B, ones and zeros. Those buns are two zeros next to each other.

All right. What's your name and your question? I'm Leah and my question is, can you role play what you think that they had to tell these A-list actors to get them to agree to this script? Well, here's the thing. Here's the thing. My assumption is that it must have been a good script. And I can see being sold on the idea of an old school noir set with all the tropes of a noir. All right, all right, all right.

Yeah, exactly. With all the tropes of a noir story, but modernized with this kind of game show, a video game rather element, and also a real, like, oh, and there's gonna be a twist. I can, and Stephen Knight is like a legit person who's done other stuff that is very good. So I can see all the steps along the way why very smart, a-list, tell-to-people

would keep going down the line, absolutely. Yeah. I think for Anne, they just said, like, the character's gonna have blonde hair, and she's like, I'll be there. When do we start? Well, it's also, she's like, she's like, does my character have sex,

but only from behind? By the way, he really grabbed her forcefully. Like, I didn't, yeah, she wasn't seem like it was leading to sex, but then it was like, that's right. I thought that chip, but then I was like, oh, maybe the kid only understands sex as a violent act. And as a result, every man in the game

is violent at sex. Again, I win! He's the only point of view. The only point of view referenced in the movie is a 12 year old boys' point of view. But then they do a missionary style inside the boat and you see those sweet cheeks getting all crunched up. It's also interesting. It's also interesting. You see him repeatedly just finish having sex with Diane. He never see her naked and you never see them have sex

because the kid I guess can't imagine that version of sex. Or they weren't going to pay Diane line enough money to show her boobs. Yeah, maybe, maybe. But I mean, like even, yeah, but they weren't gonna pay Diane Lian enough money to show her boobs. Yeah, maybe, maybe, but I mean like even yeah But they don't even show like sex happening, you know, let's say it's a kid is still a kids conception some level of what six Just that's a little mcconnie getting out of bed Well look there's a lot to unpack here and we clearly have another six hours. Yeah, I mean, we need it. I would stay here for four more hours. Well, wait, what's that? No, we can't. Ah.

They do have a show after us tonight. Look, we have opinions about this movie because there are people out there. We're the damn thing. Laugh, damn thing. Laugh, damn thing. Laugh, damn thing. Four them stay, let them stay, let them stay. Four more hours, four more hours.

You guys will have a beer break and then we'll go back into it again. You guys did a terrible job chanting. Well look, we have an opinion about this film, but there are people out there with a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions. Mama just killed your daddy. Put a cable in his chest. Win to jail, you know the rest. Goodbye everybody. I've got to code.

Gotta see my distanced sweet behind and swear I'm in the nude. Mama, Dad said the hook But justice will be mine. I wish there were more than five stars to give. You have a Cody, amazing Cody. That was amazing. Now, if I was Cody, I would have said to the person after him, you go, go ahead. But I believe in you.

It is now time for second opinions. This movie was horrid. Don't know what the hell I just watched. Let's head on off to Amazon to see what other people thought. June John and Jason read Second Opinions. June John and Jason read Second Opinions. John? Give it up for Dana, who thought my name was John. June, John and Jason. The whole part of this get made.

That's a shirt. I think I see what's happening. That's the shirt. Junjeon and Jason. She might have been mistaken for Jun and I's other podcast. Oh! Junjeon and Jason, which we do with the film critic. You do with John Ratsonberger from Cheers. That's the T-shirt.

Junjeon and Jason. We should design who John is the you. To, John Lennon. All right, well, here we are. Five star reviews from Amazon. Let's get into it. Oh, I love that. I want to leave that one in just because it's crazy.

It's wild. Was it a rip? And repeated it so many times. It wasn't a slip of the tongue. Here's the thing. It's easier to say John in that structure. Yeah. June, John, and Jason, right, rather than June Paul.

And like the hard P stops you from continuing forward. So I understand for song reasons why she changed it. There's no world in which you just let go of Paul from here on out. Or you guys become Poon, Paul, and Pason. By the way, I will have Ali go by the name Pason from now on. I like Pason. Pason, Pacey for short, just like Josh Jackson, a Dawson's Creek.

Pacing. There are 132 reviews, 26% are five star reviews. This first one is from Dee Snoke. And the title is Spoiler Alert. This review explains the plot for those who couldn't get it. I will say a majority of these reviews are like, if you didn't get it, and when I say that is,

how could you not? What is vague about this movie? There is not, they hammer the twist for an hour. They're like, do you get it now? How about now? How about when I say it? How about when I say it? How about when I say it? How about when someone else from TV says it?

I'm after Nuret Shyamalan. I'm after Nuret Shyamalan. I'm after Nuret Shyamalan. That's another. So this review ends with this line. So fascinating, too bad, so many people couldn't follow it. It will be discussed in philosophy classes for years to come. Five mother fucking stars.

Can I ask you a question? What if he's right? What if we are not getting it and this guy in 50 years, this movie is helping explain things. Like if someone's writing like their senior thesis and it's like, as man, Zuki spoke of the soul and the lack thereof. As was night discussing inside. This is like, yeah, this is like the text that supports the document. This is the mid-rash to understand the Talmud of this movie.

And then the holo bread arms and all bread together. This is a very Jewish movie. The most romantic above. This is from Jero. Jero, James of Sushi. writes this. This is a sciero, Jero, uh... Dreams of Sushi. Uh, writes this. This is a sci-fi film, period. Unless you acknowledge this truth halfway through the film,

you will be dumbfounded and quite possibly angry. But, if you accept this truth, you will realize this film is a very meta-film about a character trapped in a world created by a tormented boy living in abuse where nothing makes sense. All in all, I ended the film with some tears, satisfied, poignant tears. Is this review from June Rifle? Or Paul Sheer. Yeah. And the wild factor after watching an amazing Black Mirror episode, wouldn't it be amazing for people to reconnect

or stay connected virtually even after one person has passed? Five stars. It's fair. Going down here to Ms. Blonde, Ms. Blonde writes, I like how this movie was released in January, a bitterly cold time of year for many locations. Because what this movie is is a bitterly cold, hard look at several social issues. Here are the top five. One. This review is a top five list. I love it. Death caused by the war in Iraq. Two, loss and isolation.

Three, evil step parents. Four, artificial intelligence. Five, redemption. Meeting loss loved ones, even if only in the spiritual level and or afterlife. Not much else to say, if you like formulaic, cut and dried, good versus bad guy movies, then stick to formulaic, good versus bad guy movies, as many may not suit one's taste.

This is a very unique and visually arresting film. Five stars, And the title, Not a picnic in the park and popcorn movie. Do you have more followers? I have one more, which is from Jimmy Can Do. And Jimmy Can Do, I really like this film. There's jumping back and forth between past, present, and dreams, even so you have to kind of bring your imagination to this one. It's a movie.

Sometimes you gotta do that. And this is one of them. Mr. McConee, this is another great job acting and being a character. If you're a fan of McC Makani, watch it for sure. And I encourage others to give it a shot as well. Keep your mind open. Get some popcorn. Which is against Ms. Blonde, who says it's not a popcorn movie. This is why philosophy classes will be studying this film forever. So those are some five story views.

Here's the thing I feel about this movie is we're meant to buy into McConaughey as the lead of this movie and the emotional journey that he appears to be on, right? And what we are forgetting is that, or what I think they don't want us to really, really look at too hard is that it is a very sad story of a child who is suffering abuse and is trapped in an abuse of household, getting pushed to the point where he has no other option but to become a murderer. And that the movie ends with him embracing the reality that he has to transgress a moral, that he has to, if you believe in a soul, place a black mark on his soul

by taking a life to get out from under this chaotic scenario. But we treat it as though it is this heartfelt story from Maconahe's character and instead it is a tragedy for the child. Am I wrong? I thought it... And Jason, that's really well said, but I just thought it was a move out fishing. And if you didn't get it then... Okay. The movie, the tagline, because they want to take a shot of tagline? They're pretty hard to guess.

This is what they are. I'll just read them. On Plymouth Island, no one ever dies unless you break the rules. Oh, now, see, that's interesting. Had I known that, I would have gone into the movie with a different expectation of what it might be. I agree. Here's the other tagline.

There's a place you can escape your past, as long as you follow the rules. But this is, but someone does die in Plymouth Island. And also, yeah, he did follow the rules. What are the rules? There was never an explainer's thing that explained what the rules of Plymouth Island are. It wasn't like, this is how you take off your shirt.

Yeah. This is how you have sex with Diane Lane. Yeah. And the final one is truth lies beneath the surface, which doesn't make any sense in the context of this movie. I mean, like truth is the way he gets. Is that why he keeps going underwater to find the truth? I guess.

And he's like, it's down here somewhere. Budget was 25 million. So opening weekend was 4.4 million. The movie came out this year, 2019. It came in 100. That movie came out four months ago. Four months. This is the most recent Matthew McConaughey and half the way. No, and half the way it was in the hustle. But the most recent Matthew McConaughey

and half the way, no, and half the way it was in the hustle. But the most recent Matthew McConaughey movie. This movie, I thought this movie came out in 1997. This movie came out for months. What's with me? Yeah, this movie came out January 25th, 2019. The movie came in, it's right now 135th of all the movies in the last 365 days.

I'm shuketh, I'm shakin' inside myself. It's right now 135th of all the movies in the last 365 days. I'm shooketh. I'm shaking inside myself. The top movies in the last 365 days are of Injusengame, Incredibles 2, Captain Marvel. It was beaten by films that we've done on this podcast, The Meg and Skyscraper. So there you have it.

Final Thoughts, Jason, would you recommend this movie? Hell yeah. I'll be honest. Like, don't over, I will say the mind not in my, the things that I didn't enjoy about the movie were trying to make it make sense. And I think if you have listened to this and are like, I'll watch it.

Just like let yourself be taken on the ride. Because Makanae is chooling the scenery to a degree that is true delight. This is fun. He's doing like, yeah, just a very, like, I don't know, I feel like other actors can go down this highway and he makes it still in jail. It's very compelling and I think Anne Hathaway

against him is good, but I think really it's not all. It's not bad. This is not a, ooh, fun, I didn't like this. I didn't like it because it was unsuccessful. I mean, I didn't like it. It was unsuccessful. But I liked it.

I liked it as something too. I would say watch it. Absolutely watch it. And she'll, especially the reveal, at which point, if you're like, no, thanks. Well, that's when the movie gets cooking. Jill, would you recommend a movie? I agree. I think it is something to watch.

I think that there are high praise. High praise. I think it's nice to feast one's eyes upon scenes in this movie. Yeah. If you're trying to connect them all and draw a compelling narrative, that's not going to happen. I will say I don't like what it says about Greeks. I want to be on record. I don't like what it says about Greeks.

You and your construction buddies, you know. I do think though, you know, watching McConaughey so sunkist, so wet, with such a draw, it's really compelling, and that's pretty much the most of the movie, so. Hot. That's something to see. Bones. Nick. Uh, the balcony's getting erudy.

I am. The balcony is like horny for this movie. All of them shirtless up there. But really? I am, the balcony is like, horny for this movie. All of them shirtless up there. But really? I'm going to the balcony next time. I mean, I watched this whole movie. And I enjoyed it.

I feel like I have to say, with the amount of fishing, there was a little too much tuna in it for me And it was and who knows maybe it was a big mouth tuna. I'm not sure but I think that these are all plugs and He never catches the fish. I know man, that's justice. Wow. I guess the message is justice came for the father. Yeah.

But I think it's also, I think it is the truth. But if you, you know, Makanae's mantra is just keep living. And you know, that's what his son did for him in this movie. Yeah. Because he's dead, he's shit. And he just keeps living, you know, like in that video game with his son. And I think that's a beautiful thing. We can all carry with us whether we lost someone that we carry them with us throughout our

lives. And we make simulated video games where we have them fuck our moms. If anything, that is the soul. The soul is the piece of you that lives on and the memories of other people. That's what Keanu says that's what can as I would say I would take my biggest takeaway from this movie is what One of the pieces of trivia was on Amazon when I was watching it Which is one of many films presumably to take place on a boat in 2019 And I thought that was a great piece of trivia about this movie that was being presumably. It could not be definitive as 2019 is not yet ended, but presumably this is going to be

one of the many boat films. We got a lot of boat. 2019, a lot of boat-based movies. This was also one fly that just wants to hang out with us here. I would recommend this movie too. I think there's this talk always about the dearth of new and original ideas. And this is definitely that.

And I would like a big swing crazy movie where the actors seemingly are giving a shit. And you meet one, you're like, wow, they're going for it. Then you meet the next one, you're like, wow, she's going for it. And then Jason Clark shows up and you're like, oh, I didn't realize that we're playing this level of a fucking game.

Like, if he's not a hitting partner, Jason Clark is consuming everything inside. Jason Clark bloodied, bruised, beaten, fishing at the end of the, you're gonna fucking rob. Yes, yes, and yes. Fishing at the end of the- You're gonna fucking rot! Yes! Yes! Yes! And yes! Great performance is all around.

People just so you know that are listening right now, we are on tour right now. We are gonna be performing all over the country. Come out and see us in Charleston, South Carolina, and North Carolina. We have shows going on all over the country. Check out the website, httgminfo.com for tickets and everything. Nick, what do you got?

I will also be going on tour this fall and summer. So I'll just check for me. I'll be and big mouth coming out in October. I love it. Jason, June, this comes out next week. Next week? Next week. Well, Grayson Frankie's always streaming.

It's always just continues to stream. So if you want to watch that, and then on September 3rd, I co-authored a book with Kate Black called Represent the Women's Guide to Running for Office and Changing the World. If you'd like to order it now, you can do that on Amazon, but you can also call your, even better, call your independent bookseller

and see if you can just get it there. June, great question I have for you. I've read the book, it's great. Who wrote your cover blurb on that book? Can you say that or no? Okay. Great. Very effective.

That's not the magic. It's, can I ask it? Jason Clark's character. Can I ask a question? And if this is too revealing, you can, we can cut it. But is it me? Well, you might have... Did I write it?

I don't think so. Did I... Did I write the blurb for the book? But I'd never asked you to write to either read a gallery. I sent you a bunch of blurbs. Yeah, I got a thing. Of what I presumed the book was about. Listen, we'll talk about it after the podcast. I'm sure there's some more. After the podcast, you always say,

Jason, we're done talking. You know the rule, Jason, unless there are microphones in our hands, don't talk to me. It's true backstage. It's a fucking nightmare, you guys. Jason, what do you got? It's true backstage. It's a fucking nightmare, you guys. Jason, what do you got? Well, if it's next week, then John Wick 3, Parabellum, still in theaters,

as far as I know, I'm still in it for a brief few minutes, so go and see that if you'd like. And also, on this past week's show, I shouted out the mannequin pussy song, Drunk 2, as the song of Summer, I am doubling down, that is 100% the song of Summer. Manicin Pussy is the band, Drunk 2 is the song, but the best record of the year, a full album, is Big Thief, UFOF, download that record. I'm just on your blogging my favorite bands. I will quickly plug that if you like comic books,

I have a comic book running right now. It's a band by Marvel. It's called Cosmic Ghostwriter destroys Marvel history. The new issue is just out on stands, taking the lead from Donnie Kates, one of our friends who's out here in the audience. Nice, great author and writer of Marvel Books. So check that out.

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