How Did This Get Made? - Matinee Monday: Sharknado (w/ Scott Aukerman)

Episode Date: July 8, 2024

Scott Aukerman (Comedy Bang Bang) joins Paul, Jason, & June to break down the 2013 SyFy channel viral sensation SHARKNADO! They get into Tara Reid's headshot portraits, the purpose of the opening scen...e, if a sharknado is scientifically possible, and so much more. Plus, June delivers her take on Nova's masterfully written monologue about the origin of her scar. (Originally Released 07/16/2013) Go to hdtgm.com for tour dates, merch, and more on bad movies!Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of TraumaFor extra content on Matinee Monday movies, visit Paul's YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheerTalk bad movies on the HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheerFollow Paul’s movie recs on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer/Check out new HDTGM movie merch over at teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmPaul and Rob Huebel stream live on Twitch every Thursday 8-10pm EST: www.twitch.tv/friendzoneLike good movies too? Subscribe to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael: www.thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcastCheck out The Jane Club over at www.janeclub.comWhere to find Paul, June, & Jason:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on social media

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Maybe the most important film about climate change since An Inconvenient Truth, we saw Sharknado, so you know what that means. Now it's time for How Did This Get Made? We're gonna have a good time celebrating failure, not just be the hater, but you know you wonder, how did this get made? Let's follow in the mediocrity of subpar art. Perhaps we'll find the answer to the question, how did this get made? Hello, people of Earth, and welcome to a very special episode of How Did This Get Made? We are breaking our running order because there was an attack. A Sharknado attack hit Twitter, hit the internet, hit the sci-fi channel we needed to regroup and talk about it.
Starting point is 00:00:40 I am joined as always by Jason Manzoukas. How are you, Jason? What is happening? This movie is amazing. And June Diane, how are you? June Diane Raphael? I'm good, how are you, Paul? Good, I was very nervous about this interaction. People, we have this weird thing. I have to, there you go.
Starting point is 00:00:57 Now you're gonna have to speak to it. Yes, well, people say that we introduce each other weirdly. For a married couple. For a married couple, but it's like, you're not with us 90% of the time. If you didn't know that, then that's a fine introduction. And there's like no other time you'd be introducing me like that.
Starting point is 00:01:11 I don't know how to react. Yeah, how are you, June? I will say this, because a lot of people don't know this part of it, is that when you guys are speaking a little bit remotely to each other in those moments, you guys are fondling each other's genitals. Oh, for sure.
Starting point is 00:01:22 So there is intimacy there. It's always a physical intimacy. Joining us is a return guest, star creator of Comedy Bang Bang, which is currently in its second season on the IFC channel. You can see it every Friday night at 10 PM and 9 Central. Please welcome Scott Ackerman. Hello, people of Earth. That's my catchphrase.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Yeah, oh, wait a second. That's not your catchphrase. Oh, that's right. It's What's Up, Hot Dog? Hello, everyone. Well, wait a second. That's not your catchphrase. Oh, that's right. It's what's up hot dog Well, I'm so excited that we can we could convene a very special How did this get made like calls went out last night? It was calls went out which by the way we were supposed to do a different movie Can we talk about that we were and I watched to do a shitty shitty movie? I'll buy my lonesome apparently. We were supposed to watch the Tyler Perry detective film Alex Cross and we weren't supposed to air this when it was supposed to be aired
Starting point is 00:02:11 But was it terrible? It's more boring than anything else. Would it not have been fun? I would do the other the last Tyler Perry movie. Yeah, yeah, I would do that one. I'm dying missing it. What is it called? Temptation. Where the twist is. Yeah, don't talk about it. Do that one instead. Okay. That was Justin in Theaters with Kim Kardashian and Okay, yeah, yeah. Well Scott you get MVP because you watch Alex Cross. Thank you so much. Yeah, most valuable podcast Because you watch two movies, but last night Yeah! Because he watched two movies.
Starting point is 00:02:44 But last night, Sharknado was on. I'm gonna slip in jokes about Alex Cross during this whole show, by the way. Yeah, I think it's a nice Easter break. Last night, Sharknado hit Syfy Channel. The Twittersphere went nuts for it. You can find millions of GIFs, memes. I saw stuff. Because this happened to me, which I was very bummed about.
Starting point is 00:03:03 For some reason, my DVR only recorded 40 minutes of it. Oh, no the last 40 minutes Oh, thank you, so then I went online so that I could watch the beginning Okay, you you called the audible after it was already on in the East which I get the East Coast Okay, so I had to then do the the West Coast feed which was on an hour later And so I had to stay up MVP Did Kevin and being this morning plugging other
Starting point is 00:03:39 Kevin and being don't plug to rest real radio. Where can we hear your appearance on Kevin and Bean? Well, it's podcast itself. Oh, wow. At KROQ.com. All right, let's talk about this movie. Because here's, I want to just lay down something first and foremost. A lot of people go like, well, no, no. They were setting out to make a bad movie.
Starting point is 00:03:56 And I disagree with that wholeheartedly, only because this went to Cannes. This was sold at Cannes. What? Oh, oh, oh. Not in competition. Not at Cannes Film Festival. It was at the Cannes Market. Yes, at the Cannes, this was sold at Cannes. Wait, what? Oh, oh, oh, not at... Not in competition. Not at Cannes Film Festival, at the Cannes Market. Yes, at the Cannes Market.
Starting point is 00:04:09 The marketplace thing, yeah. You know, you go there, you buy your Sharknado's, you buy your Helen Hunt movies. Yeah, you could be picking up... It was a bling ring. But I do believe, you know, that... Your Helen Hunt movies? Your Helen Hunt movies.
Starting point is 00:04:20 You know, fucking Cannes, rotten with Helen Hunt movies. I guess I'll buy this Helen Okay, great. I'll buy that Helen Hunt movie and sharknado look I'll get sharknado only if the dad from Home Alone is in it and I can pretend like it's actually Kevin McCallister's dad Later on in my maybe Ian's earring is Kevin McCallister all grown up Changes name to Finn all right this, I want to talk about the- I want to put quotes around movie. Yeah, because here's my thought, like when people go, well they were trying
Starting point is 00:04:51 to have fun with it, I don't think so because they didn't go, they didn't do anything far enough to go, like it felt more to me like birdemic in the room than something that was incredibly self-aware. There are moments that were crazy. Yeah, I think, yeah maybe, in the room than something that was incredibly self-aware. There are moments that were crazy. Yeah. I think, yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 00:05:09 But it's not as earnest as those movies. There is a degree of camp to it. Just like this stuff happens that are so funny. Yes. I don't think that, I think the humor in the movie, they thought it was going to be intentionally funny, but it is laughably funny. You see what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:05:28 There are certain jokes in there that they're like, oh man, this is gonna be comic relief that it just lay there. Well, and then to speak to this whole premise is that the opening scene of this movie, which correlates to nothing. Nothing! Nothing!
Starting point is 00:05:44 I wanna know, like like was anyone paying attention? Does it make sense to you? It makes sense. Oh, it's so funny about that scene. The businessman is having a meeting on this boat. I mean, it looks like they're in the middle. They're off of the Gulf of Mexico. They're in the middle of nowhere.
Starting point is 00:05:55 And it's like played as like a business meeting. Like he just stopped by. He's in a suit. He's in a suit in the galley of a ship. Did he take a rowboat? Like, where did he come from? And the boat is like a fishing trawler. It's not like a grand, eloquent boat.
Starting point is 00:06:14 It's like deadliest catch level boats. Yes, he didn't land a chopper on it or anything like that. No, there'd be no way. First of all, I have a lot of... He must have been on this boat for days. Yes. And then in that, yeah, in that suit with a briefcase and whatever. Waiting for this meeting.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Waiting for me. In the waiting room. He's like, the ship captain- With a cup of coffee. The ship captain- Can I get you anything? The ship captain is the most passive aggressive businessman. He's like, well, he'll take a meeting with you,
Starting point is 00:06:39 but you have to go out to sea for about two or three weeks. It's a lot like meeting with Lorne Michaels. That's what I'm gonna say. He's the Lorne Michaels of Boat Captains. The guy he was having the meeting with, you guys noticed he was completely dubbed the entire time. Oh, I didn't notice that.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Yes, I did notice that. I was barely paying attention. I actually have to say, I had a lot of trouble with the sound in this movie. Oh, really? I couldn't hear. Well, okay, so obviously people were ADR, but people were ADR, but could you hear dialogue?
Starting point is 00:07:02 Like, the levels seemed so low. The business, the noise of the event, of Sharknado, were so loud. Like the chomping and the... And the chomping was like, chomp chomp chomp. But then the actual words were so low. So low, I agree, yes. Thank you. Well, this movie clearly was not color corrected sound mixer or anything
Starting point is 00:07:26 The color correction is bonkers. I mean, it's like it's raining in some angles and then it cuts to the other angle It's a sunny day No effort made I do believe that majority of this movie was shot in a car wash whenever they're Do you want wanna hang out with this car wash for one day? We rented this car wash, we need to get through 40 pages of dialogue. Let's do it.
Starting point is 00:07:50 I believe his name is Ian Ziering. So sorry, is it, oh that's right, it is. It is. Can we just mention though, that this, who this movie is written by? Please do. Who? Thunder Levin. No.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Thunder Levin. Thunder Levin. Who's piece of IMDB trivia, the only piece of trivia about him is... Thunder is his real name. Thunder is his real name. Thunder Levin. Well, he directed a movie called Mutant Vampire Zombies from the Hood.
Starting point is 00:08:19 He wrote a movie called Atlantic Rim, which I guess is kind of eating off Pacific Rim. Okay, so when I was at K-Rock, which you should hear me. Cut it out. Jesus. They had a whole bunch of DVDs made by the same company that I guess the director was there the day before. Asylum is this company,
Starting point is 00:08:37 they make a movie like Transmorphers, right? Yeah, what they do is they make these DVDs and put them in stores so that you will get confused and think that you are buying Transformers, but what you are really buying is Transmorphers. And I read another thing about this. Wow. It's specifically geared towards the DVR audience because you'll be like, oh, I want to see Transformers and you get a T-R-A-N and you say, oh, Transmorphers pops up and you just
Starting point is 00:09:02 order it. And so even if you mistakenly order it. That's amazing Sure, they also yeah, I tip my hat to that That's why thank you so much for wearing your hat Don't know about the podcast June always wears like like what a ten gallon hat or it sometimes It's those hands that people wear to British weddings like Comfortable I do want to talk about some of the Asylum movies There's American warships which came out last summer. Battleships. And they also released AE
Starting point is 00:09:32 Apocalypse Earth which is I think AI Yeah, or like. What is that? Yeah. No, it's after Earth. Oh, or oblivion. Or oblivion. Something like that. And that also starts Richard Grieco Atlantic Rim which is coming out of Pacific right yeah And then and they also directed something that seems like it's supposed to be a fast and furious thing called 200 miles an hour Well, that's pretty fast you have to agree about that I mean an amateur racer gets involved in illegal street racing after the death of his brother Did you say in legal street racing? Oh, illegal, sorry.
Starting point is 00:10:06 That would be... That's not a very good movie. Street racing is legal. In a world where street racing is legal. Everything else exactly the same. They just wanted to drive the speed limit. So the opening of this movie on the boat with this meeting, I did love this fact that when they are,
Starting point is 00:10:23 I don't even first of all understand what this meeting was about. They were killing sharks, right? I thought what it was was they were on a boat that had a whole bunch of... they'd captured a whole bunch of sharks. A pod of 20,000 sharks. Wait, all the sharks were just on that boat? No. That's what I thought it was supposed to be. I thought he had them like where he was. I don't think they were on the boat. That's what I thought. I thought they captured all... what I thought they were doing was they captured all the sharks, which then a tornado happens,
Starting point is 00:10:49 and because that boat happens to be where it is, the sharks get lifted up into the tornado. That's interesting. That's what I thought it was. I don't think that's what it is though. But why was that guy, when the first time you see him, he drank like an egg, like was he eating like, like a shark drink or something?
Starting point is 00:11:04 Because he passed like a bowl to him. I didn't notice that. And he drank it and he goes, it's good, not great. And then he's like, I'm gonna go and give you like a hundred thousand dollars. Oh, were the sharks for food? I don't know. For shark fin soup maybe? Something like that, that's what I thought.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Like it was some sort of delicacy. Because it was also all different kinds of sharks. Yeah. Hammerhead. tiger sharks. All the sharks in the world were at a meeting together in one part of the ocean. They were waiting in that waiting room. That's why this tornado was really confusing,
Starting point is 00:11:34 because you could argue that if the tornado happened there, it would be that one type of shark that's indigenous to that body of water. But it was all the types of sharks. But it was all sharks. Well, you could also argue that when sharks are sucked out of the water via tornado, they types of sharks. But it was all sharks. Well, you could also argue that when sharks are sucked out of the water via tornado,
Starting point is 00:11:47 they're not breathing, they can't breathe anymore and they would be dead. These sharks live for days in a tornado without water. Wait, what is in there? But hold on, isn't a tornado made of sort of water? No. Like doesn't it have precipitation? Not that much water.
Starting point is 00:12:02 They're not like in a fish tank of water. They get oxygen from water. Yeah, from what I know of tornadoes, they're wind essentially. And what do you know of tornadoes? June was an amateur storm chaser. Go ahead, tell them. Helen Hunt was based on June from what I know about tornadoes. And I'm not saying I know a lot or enough, but from what I know of tornadoes, wind starts to sort of pick up dirt and debris
Starting point is 00:12:29 and it kind of collapses in a... You know nothing about tornadoes. And it forms like a cyclone that starts to move. Oh, okay. Wait, a tornado is like a cyclone? I wish everybody had a visual of what's happening. I will say this. Live hand movement. June is kind of right. June is kind. Here's what would have made sense.
Starting point is 00:12:46 June is kind of right. Oh, go ahead. It would have made sense if the sharks got wrapped up in a cyclone, because a cyclone's a tornado in water. June, you're getting ahead of yourself. From what I know of cyclones. But a shark clone doesn't sound quite as good. Shark clone would have been, it's a lot of sharks.
Starting point is 00:12:59 June, you're kind of wrong and kind of right. A tornado is a violently rotating column of air. What about a lone shark of air that is in contact with both the surface of the earth and in rare cases the base of a cumulus cloud. They're often referred to as cyclones. I thought a cyclone happened in water. It says a cyclone is a low pressure circulation. I mean, I'm just telling you what they say. But I mean, I would argue just from what's happened just here,
Starting point is 00:13:25 I know you're reading off the internet, but whatever, but it sounds like June knows more. I think that June should get on this. And I'm saying I don't know everything, but I may know more than this. All I know is during the movie, someone said, this is impossible, and Ian's earring said, no, it's not. This is very possible.
Starting point is 00:13:38 And from that moment, I was on board. Well, here's another thing that I will say about this movie, and that's the thing about the laziness. At least in Birdemic, there's another thing that I will say about this movie and it's late and that's the thing about the laziness like at least In birdemic there's like a two-minute scene where some guy clunkily Explains well the birds are revolting because of this it's bad science But in this there is no explanation besides simply that line And here's the other weird thing about the sharks when the sharks hit land out of the tornado
Starting point is 00:14:03 I would think they'd immediately want to find water no they would have like they would be flopping around dying because they're drowning in air which is what happens when you put a fish instead any human being would get chomping their fucking mouths because they're hungry apparently they fly repeatedly sharks fly out of the air and lock onto someone's limbs. Sharks? They are, it's like they're flying through the air going chompa chompa chompa chompa until they just hit something fleshy. And by the way, the land shark in the old Saturday Night Live sketches of Chevy Chase
Starting point is 00:14:36 look more realistic than the sharks in this movie. These sharks look like they're catapulted like raggedy and dolls. It's like through a window and when they come back. Oh my god, when the shark blows through the window of the restaurant I was laughing The effects are bad the effects are next level bad I want to just go back to the boat scene for just one second because now the fact that there were 20,000 trucks there I'm piecing it together
Starting point is 00:15:01 But I love that when the the Asian man hands over the money to the Lorne Michaels boat captain, it's in a tackle box, but yet there's some tackle in there still. Like there are like lures. There are lures in the tackle box. Like it's like, well, hello. You know, when in Rome. I just thought that was so, like.
Starting point is 00:15:19 And the captain was like, we're gonna cut your sketch. He'll put a little something on top for him. And it was so like, Jay was like, we're gonna cut your sketch. And he'll put a little something on top for him. And it was so like, Jay was placed, because it wasn't like, oh, they put money on top of the lures. It was like, they put the money and it's like, ah, it doesn't look right. Let's put some lures in there, too.
Starting point is 00:15:34 But why did he do his camouflage? Maybe he just borrowed the tackle box so it would be being used. OK, that makes sense. So we'll put some lures in there. And then all of a sudden the wind picks up the Shooting at each other for no reason why are they shooting? I think there was never any motivation for that just all of a sudden like like a sharknado star
Starting point is 00:15:55 Which by the way when I first saw this title, I thought it was sharknado for a long time I was like trying to figure out what is sharknado. Why is everyone talking about sharknado? But yeah, they just he he out, starts immediately firing at this guy for no reason. No reason at all. And then that's a losing battle to run around the boat shooting a gun. There's no escape.
Starting point is 00:16:12 He was trying to be like, I'm outta here! But it's like, well, you're on a boat in the middle of the Mexican waters. The lonely island special. So anyway, that scene goes away and we are to never think of it again. Never. Because it makes no sense.
Starting point is 00:16:26 But it basically establishes for us that there's a lot of sharks in this location and a tornado comes by and sucks them all up into itself. In which, yes, we meet our... That's the establishment of Sharknado. But then the question is, there are three Sharknados. Yeah, because here's the other thing. I don't think that the beginning thing necessarily relates to the rest of the movie because they then have someone talking on TV, which by the way, what is her name?
Starting point is 00:16:52 Oh, Johnny with an eye. Johnny with an eye. She keeps mentioning that. What is that about? Johnny with an eye. Because I think it was, was it Johnny Blaze was her name? That was such a weird specific that I liked. I think it was, no, but okay.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Is that based? Did you feel bad when she got killed? I did, but like I felt like that was... There were some moments... Is it based on Johnny Mountain and then they cast a woman and so she felt like she had to say... Who's Johnny Mountain? The, uh, the weatherman here in... Oh, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:17 On ABC. Anyway, that's like a local reference, but I feel like they wrote it in the script like a Johnny Mountain, like Johnny Blow. It was odd that... It was an odd thing because if you were a fan of this newscast Which you probably are if you're watching it you know it's yeah You wouldn't need her to introduce herself with an eye every time unless there's two Johnnie's at this point I think that was her catchphrase or whatever Back to the point she starts talking about how there have been and I and Zering I think starts talking about how there have been a lot of
Starting point is 00:17:42 Sharks collecting in the ocean recently so it's not like these sharks are being shipped in by the Sharknado. The sharks are already there. So what does that beginning have to do with the video? So wait a second. So in the beginning when Ion Ziering is surfing and there's like a million sharks in the water, is that just random or did a Sharknado drop them off? No I think sharks have been there and then the Sharknado comes and lifts more sharks up, I don't know. Why are there so many sharks? There's, I mean, there's a lot of sharks. That opening scene...
Starting point is 00:18:13 In the, when he's surfing with the girl? Oh yeah, oh well... When he's surfing with the woman and he can't surf at all, it's like, digit style surfing. Like shot from below, like while he wiggles his arms. And he's supposed to be like a world champion Well, he's taking a little bit of a break with his I thought for the beginning I kept on saying to June because the sound mix is so bad. It's like does Ian's hearing have an accent I thought he was also trying to do it. I couldn't tell if the guy was Australian for a long time until that line of dialogue about
Starting point is 00:18:40 Etiquette I thought you were Australian not British Great line. I also like when that girl's getting eaten in the water and Ian says to her get out of the water about etiquette I thought you were Australian not British great line I also like when that girl's getting eaten in the water and I and says to her get out of the water yeah but they're in the middle of the ocean there's nowhere to go he's he's standing in like water up to his chest yeah there are 12 million sharks apparently and he's screaming sharks Sharks get out of the water, and he's just watching as chaos ensues. Yeah He doesn't go anywhere. He doesn't get on his surfboard. He doesn't get out of the water He is like just a sitting duck and I would also argue at that point
Starting point is 00:19:17 Maybe the reason why he's a sitting duck is because the sharks are kind of this like lazy chompers But they kind of eat you, but they don't like they're not like, They're just kind of like, hump, hump. Like, that was eating that guy's leg. The Australian guy, that Australian guy had that shark on his leg. Oh my god. For quite some time. I feel like they had maybe 35 minutes of stuff. So they put in a lot of time. One of the things, there was stuff that I was like,
Starting point is 00:19:41 Wait a second, is this, is, is this scene happening in real time? Like, there was, what was it, hold on, there was one thing, oh let me find it. Well time is a crazy thing in this movie because you're supposed to understand that this shark attack, this massive shark attack at the beach happened I guess that morning and then we cut to- Where the people are, they're reacting in such a way where they're just really running in circles I felt like that 20 extra but I would say it looks like in that first opening scene it looks like at least seven people died. It was a giant shark attack at Santa Monica Pier.
Starting point is 00:20:19 But then once we're at Finn's and the Australian guy. His name Finn, by the way. His name is Finn. We haven't talked about that. Oh man, the name could be amazing. Finn, Cam, Nova, great names all across the board. But this massive shark attack has happened. Written by thunder. And. Which is his real name. The next scene they're at the bar,
Starting point is 00:20:35 and I think to myself, well I guess we must be weeks later. Yeah, because the whole beach would be shut down. Shut down. Everything. And his best buddy, the Australian, had his leg in a shark's mouth, and he's just at the bar He's everybody's hanging out like this should be like they went to the hospital I know how long it takes to take someone to the emergency room because I just took someone Okay, news
Starting point is 00:20:59 Slice just hand open at my house. This was like a month ago But the most blood I've ever seen is this was like a month ago. Oh, wow. But the most blood I've ever seen. Is his hand okay? Yeah, yeah, it's great. But I took him to the emergency room, and it was hours before anyone even looked at him. Scott, did you stab him?
Starting point is 00:21:15 He sliced it open himself, I swear. Hey, Scott, can Paul Rust play the piano? Did he ever before? Were you mad at him? Were you mad at him, Scott? So this would be, he would have come back to the bar at night at the very least. So it should have been, yeah. Well, even that aside though, people have died. Yes! A lot of people.
Starting point is 00:21:37 I would say eight people died that day. People have died, and the people that we are with at the Peach Pit, or wherever they are, Finns, the people that we're with we are with at the peach pit or wherever they are the people that were with after dark watched people dot watch by sharks and they don't seem traumatized shocked they're like whipping it up laughing and goofing and oh my god do you know there was one like any night at Finn's yeah that's a testament to Finn's though you have to yeah Finn's is the place to hang out on the Santa Monica boardwalk Not anymore. Oh my god
Starting point is 00:22:09 What my one of my favorite moments too is I felt like there was a lot of? Investors in this movie like people who invested in this movie is like oh and you have a part too and your daughter will have A part when that first shark attack is happening they cut to a little girl like in a red dress Like with her hand to her head, and just looking out like four times. It's like, oh, that's my daughter. I gave you $100,000 to make this. No, there's a lot of that in this movie.
Starting point is 00:22:31 There's people who should not be acting at all, and not the people, the main stars of the movie. No. Oh, no. And I think there's a lot of scenes in this movie that might have been just like stock footage. Yeah, no, there's a lot. Like real stock footage stuff., no there's like real stock footage. When they're driving through LA that is going through this tsunami, because that's really
Starting point is 00:22:50 what it is, they're like showing pictures of sharknami. They're showing like pictures of Haiti it feels like. That's not like Santa Monica. Plus they're cutting in a lot of like Discovery Channel footage of sharks. Anytime there actually is footage of sharks, it's obviously bought. They never had a real shark they never never they bought one giant shark fin oh yeah that shark fin cam which is going behind the shark yeah I guess just to wrap up this question I do think that the shark attacks on the
Starting point is 00:23:17 beach are unrelated to the shark native yeah I don't know I think they are I know logically that does make sense because I don't think they have anything to do with the sharknado. Yeah, I don't know. No. I think they are. No. I think logically that does make sense because- I don't think they have anything to do with sharknado. Wait, are you just saying that every day- Because the sharknado didn't truck in these sharks. It's not like a sharknado happened and boom, deposited these sharks in the water and then they attack.
Starting point is 00:23:37 I think they're unrelated. Especially because of the time cut, because he comes back with a bandage so it's hours later. Yeah. No, no, no. I think what happened, this is what I think happened. Again, I'm not a scientist. I know a lot of you are writing in and asking me science questions, no, no. I think what happened, this is what I think happened. Again, I'm not a scientist. I know a lot of you are writing in
Starting point is 00:23:47 and asking me science questions, but here's what I think happened. The tornado picked up like, say, 15,000. 20,000. No, no, I'm gonna say 15,000 sharks, okay? Okay. That's a little less than 20. Okay, and then 5,000 were just displaced
Starting point is 00:24:00 and pushed into the shores. They were like the John the Baptist of the sharks. So they arrived before. They arrived before. They're the warning signs. So the other ones are being sucked up into the shores. They were like the John the Baptist of the sharks. They arrived before. They arrived before. They're the warning signs. So the other ones are being sucked up into the tornado. The other ones are being pushed to shore. Because that was a shitload of sharks. It was! It was too many.
Starting point is 00:24:16 It was way too many sharks. The reason why it's unclear is because I and Ziering says that they've been having shark attacks. They've been having shark attacks. I swear they said that at They've been having shark attacks. Well he's being very blase about it. He's like, everybody just stay out of the water for a couple days. It's totally fine.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Well I mean, poor man's Kaley Kuko. Who? Poor man's Kaley Kuko. Who? The Bartend? The Bartend? Oh, Nova. I liked her.
Starting point is 00:24:39 The female perspective. I thought she was good. I thought she was good. She did a good job. I thought she was one of the best actors. No, Nova. She was was one of the best actors. No, uh, no. She was probably one of the best. Can I mention Tara Reade? Yes.
Starting point is 00:24:50 And Coolop brought this up because she was watching with me. The first time you see Tara Reade, which By the way, the act break on this movie, if you watch it on TV, it fades out, like basically, I and Zering sees a giant tidal wave approaching, kinda looks at it strangely, picks up the phone, fade out. Slow fade out, then we go to commercial.
Starting point is 00:25:09 That's not a place for a fade out. If you're amateur act breakers out there. Tidal wave? I gotta make a call. Fade out. But when he calls Tara Reade on the phone, she is standing on a staircase, and behind her is her headshot. A Tara Reade headshot. A Tara Reade headshot.
Starting point is 00:25:26 A Tara Reade headshot framed on the wall. And it comes back later on when her boyfriend is getting eaten by a shark and there's water in the house. During that sequence, there's another Tara Reade portrait that's in like a curio cabinet or something that you see in the background. It's like Tara. And then there's also a single portrait of him
Starting point is 00:25:45 that floats around. It's a strange thing. We're gonna hire you for this movie. We need you to bring a couple of headshots. Bring some headshots, please. I thought I got the movie. If you've got them framed, that's even better. And Tara Reed was like,
Starting point is 00:25:59 Bring them either way. Tara Reed was like, Oh, I've got a bunch of framed headshots. By the way, Tara Reed, I don't like her character in this She's a pretty awful person. She doesn't you know we'll get to love story And this is so strange because in the beginning by the way yeah good you thought that I was supposed to be I'm tearing with the Nova Yeah, she makes a pass at him Before that I thought he was making a pass at the surfer. Yeah, he's totally into the surfer. Yeah, he's after the surfer girl
Starting point is 00:26:24 He watches her get eaten Nova makes a pass at him, and he's, he's totally into the surfer. He's after the surfer girl, he watches her get eaten. Nova makes a pass at him and he's like, get back to work, what are you doing? I'm your boss. But that ball is up in the air for a long time about Nova liking him. And he kind of gets back into her, he's like, that's sexy when you shoot that gun. So their love story is, and then he saves, I mean not to spoil her a little bit, he saves her at the end, which is what the hero of a movie does. Except that it's basically like she's meant for his son now.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Yeah, it's queer. Well she was into her son. I mean, she was like, you know what, I'm not gonna get it with Finn. Finn's still caught up on his beautiful wife, his beautiful April. But I thought this was gonna be about, like when he sets up in the beginning of the movie,
Starting point is 00:27:02 on that phone call, that this woman, he doesn't have his family anymore, he doesn't have anything, pretty much. I think that the whole story is going to be about him getting back with his wife and kids and proving that he's the man of the family and not this boyfriend. But why was he a bad man of the family? He's a good man that they don't like. Exactly. They established that when Tara Reid says, your problem is always that you're trying
Starting point is 00:27:24 to save everyone else Yeah, so that goes again with that that goes against them with your idea of what the movie should be which is he saves everyone else He needs to be the gut what we didn't make this movie you motherfucker, but don't you think but don't you think we didn't do Don't you think he should have been the drunk? He should have been the unheard character. Exactly. Or he abandoned them for surfing. Or whatever it was.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Or he's the Clint Eastwood and Unforgiven who's been a really good guy, but then when sharks come... Or he's the guy who's afraid of fucking sharks. Yes! And he doesn't like to talk about it. That's Nova in her Robert Shaw monologue. Oh! Which we have a very special treat today because, June, you're going to do the monologue. I'd like to give it a try.
Starting point is 00:28:10 I'm not at my full voice. Do you need to warm up your instrument? What's going on? A little bit. Enough qualifications. We'll just see how you do. I do want to just, I want to talk about one thing that we, it's not really worth, I don't know, but the, not only,
Starting point is 00:28:25 this tornado works in such a way that things are destroyed and like collapse as if they're all rigged with bombs, but a Ferris wheel at one point is unleashed from the Santa Monica Pier, and it goes just rolling. And this is one of my favorite death by giant Ferris wheel ever. One per, just one guy gets crushed by a Ferris wheel. I thought that was, I almost feel like, I would like to see a movie of just a runaway Ferris wheel ever. One per, just one guy gets crushed by a Ferris wheel. I thought that was, I almost feel like,
Starting point is 00:28:47 I would like to see a movie of just a runaway Ferris wheel. That was, actually that was a very exciting scene. Runaway Ferris wheel NATO. That would be amazing. Oh my god. It's a Ferris wheel. With sharks and all the, have been sucked up.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Here's the other weird thing we find out on that phone call, cause Nova seems to know a lot about like, his family situation No, she she keeps no she doesn't know anything because there's a line of dialogue I wrote down which is you You have an ex-wife and a daughter So but somebody says and maybe it's Tara Reid somebody says yeah You'll see the kids when you see them every month on the 20th. One day. That's a raw deal. What has he done to get this kind of treatment? Which by the way, maybe isn't convenient for
Starting point is 00:29:34 him or something? It's a Sunday on Sundays. It's not like every other Saturday. It's like on the 20th, wherever that may fall. Tomorrow is the 20th. It's a Tuesday. No school, I guess, to go see my dad. It also seems like the 20th is the day that he needs to give them money Here's a scene from when he comes inside the house It'll just give you an idea of where the acting is and what the dynamics are here we go What are you doing here? There's a big storm coming in it's not safe here. I'm not going anywhere with you. Just leave I didn't come here to argue with you, I came here to get you.
Starting point is 00:30:06 What is all the ruckus? Oh my God. Can you describe the ruckus? Oh, shepherd. Should have figured it was you. Shepherd. This guy's a shepherd, by the way, because he led them all out.
Starting point is 00:30:19 I'm going inland, I'm taking my family with me. Finley, April is mine. Excuse me? My girlfriend is not your responsibility. And unless it's the 20th of the month, which it currently is not, neither is Claudia. Con, don't be rude. What is happening on the tour?
Starting point is 00:30:35 He's just worried about us. He's just worried. Every time it rains in LA, everyone swears it's the storm of the century. And even if it is, Beverly Hills Emergency Services is second to none. Even if it is, Beverly Hills emergency services are second to none. Even if it is, Beverly Hills emergency services are second to none. What kind of lackadaisical attitude is that?
Starting point is 00:30:53 She just said, sharks are falling in the streets. That is an amazing scene. Sharks are falling in the streets and he is nonplussed. By the way, Tara Reid just saw Nova with a double-barrel shotgun Shoot a shark that came shoot flying out of a sewer grate. Yeah, and by the way, they never established How Nova is such a good shot. She's amazing knocking down these sharks like she's a premier She hates you hate you would have to shoot some one day. She's gonna have to shoot some land sharks guys Nova I know this
Starting point is 00:31:24 story arc is so amazing. I mean, we'll get there, but when she and the son are in the helicopter, shit goes down that is so bananas. I was like jumping out of my seat. Can we talk about it or what are we doing? Yeah, let's do it. Okay, so-
Starting point is 00:31:43 Just set up where we're at in the movie. In the movie, he and his family have run away. They've gone to the airport. But like a tiny flight school airport kind of zone. In Van Nuys. In Van Nuys. Next to an old age home. Yes, next to an old age home.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Because old people can't hear. Which was, that's not like Scott being clever. That is a line in the movie. Although I have to say, and I want you to rest of this, Which was, that's not like Scott being clever, that is a line in the movie. Although I have to say, and I won't get arrested for this, but I don't, I think that, I didn't even register that as a really a joke or a plot point because it seemed like there was a lot of discrepancies, like some people were aware of what was going on and terrified, like at the flight school they're hiding in a closet.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Yeah, yes. But then other people are lounging in a pool. Yes, old age people are like, how is that possible that people are in the pool? Doesn't everybody know? Like, people just got sucked out of a building next door. Can I just say that maybe this movie helped me understand Katrina and why so many people were left behind? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Like why, why were- Where was FEMA? Where was FEMA in this movie? It would happen too quickly. Where was the government in this movie? What was happening? The only time you see the government is when they're being, like they're weaving in and out of traffic and
Starting point is 00:32:46 the cops I guess chase them for speeding? This actually did happen though like there were sharks in New Orleans like in the streets. What? Swimming in the streets. What? Yes June. Well because there was water because there was water. Please take a picture of June's face at this moment. That was an amazing. Did you not know that sharks were attacking people in New Orleans? I am very upset about that. So I mean I feel like the thunder saw that and was like, I got a better idea. Oh yeah. Come raining out of the sky.
Starting point is 00:33:13 But you could never get the idea of how much water was in the streets. Well in the beach, a guy whose ankle is deep in water is eaten by a shark. Yeah and the cars are not engulfed in water, they're probably up to the mid-level in the tire. And there are like multiple sharks underneath all of it. How does a shark even fit underneath the car? No way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Alone on top. Maybe it's a small tiger shark or something. A sand shark maybe? As Nova said, I like Nova's line about the tornado, she goes, it's like old faithful. But then someone says we're gonna need faith to get out of this. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Yeah, old faith. She had so many good lines. She had, the movie is basically 80 yard lines over B-roll. That's what the entire movie is at a certain point. And over extreme closeups because they can't film anything else. Because they can't film anywhere else. they can they can't film anywhere else They're like we don't have the helicopter right now. We don't have the location
Starting point is 00:34:09 So I was gonna fill my incredible close-up from below. I was told that they chased rain around they would hear like it's raining in Pasadena let's let's move and they would go find it and film there. Yeah Okay, why go to all that trouble? trouble? It did not, it was not additive. So the flight school, they're hiding in the thing, the family is reunited, somebody gets sucked out of the building, holy shit, shit's going crazy, okay. So they decide they're gonna, they break into a store next door where, great news, there's bomb-making supplies.
Starting point is 00:34:41 So very quickly, they all build bombs. Oh, by the way, and one of them is... Multiple people know they all build bombs oh by the way and one of them multiple people know how to build bombs and one of them is to fire them off yeah one of them is given Tara Reid I think takes a hedge trimmer no no he has a weapon I am saying gives her a hedge trimmer and goes he use this she goes yeah I can use it she goes you know how to use this she goes I can use it he's mumbling by the way she's sitting down most of the movie to Not with everyone oh, I feel like half of her part was shot in her house
Starting point is 00:35:13 Yeah, she's sitting down during attacks going oh no no Did you guys notice my one of my favorite scenes is when Tara read it they they stopped at a convenience store And they're kind of looking around at what's left and Tara Reed just has this kind of like pensive moment where or a reflective moment when she goes and just approaches a bunch of like toiletries and just stares at them Like and they're all turned like they're all like These wipe my blood Yeah, she's just like, I'm gonna stare at these antiperspirants for just a couple minutes
Starting point is 00:35:39 Stuff goes on for so long anyway, so they get in the sun and Nova get into the helicopter. I guess gonna play Yeah, just play his line to set up what they're gonna do is do here is this line instead of letting live sharks Rain down on people we're gonna get in that chopper and throw bombs into the tornadoes And that is that is the plan that's the plan that everybody is on board. Oh, yeah We nobody says let's get out of here. Nobody says, you got a helicopter? Great, let's all get on it and we can leave.
Starting point is 00:36:10 Or what if these bombs hit buildings? Yeah, or people below. Or by the way, forget about helicopters, they're out of flight school, like let's get on the planes and just fly out of here. And get out of here, get the fuck out of here. Nope, so him and Nova get in the fucking helicopter, which never moves, he barely ever moves his hand
Starting point is 00:36:27 It's the worst. It's a bad vehicle to take in the middle of a shot Oh, yeah, so he then flies as close as possible. Well, it's a helicopter. So it's probably okay Yeah, new technology. Okay, so he flies as close as possible to the shark data and they start okay, but now June Do you want to do your performance because this is where this scene happens. I'd love to if it's time. Okay so they don't know each other. Is this Ian Ziering's real son by the way? I think I read that. Oh that would be amazing. So they don't know each other they're just getting to know each other and she's basically like she's oh they're comparing scars right beforehand they're comparing scars she has a scarred up leg. She doesn't want to talk about that scarred up leg. And we've seen that earlier. Yep and he's got a scarred up chest or something from something and
Starting point is 00:37:09 he tells her his story of how he got a scar and then she says this. I was raised by my okay she's got like an east coast accent. You're gonna do the accent too. I'm gonna try babe. I love it. Do you need to warm up to him? Do you want me to talk to you in a Boston accent? No, it's like, it was like more like New York. I was raised by my grandparents. When I was seven, my grandpa took me fishing on one of those day charter deals with his friends. That was a good one. We wound up hitting into a reef and the boat went down.
Starting point is 00:37:40 My grandfather took me and put me inside this little life raft for safety. Everyone else was just kind of swimming around, trying to stay up and suddenly all these sharks just started swarming And then they tried to protect me but by morning By morning they were all gone so I meaning the people not the sharks I was confused about So I've got this the craziest line Meaning the people, not the sharks. I was confused about that. So I've, this is the craziest line. So I floated out there for two days
Starting point is 00:38:14 until those Coast Guard helicopters finally spotted me. I thought I was safe, but suddenly this shark just leapt up and bit my leg. Six people went into the water and one little girl came out. The sharks took the rest. They took my grandfather. That's why I really hate sharks. Ah! Ah!
Starting point is 00:38:37 Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Now a more seasoned writer maybe wouldn't need to put that button on it. That's why I really hate sharks.
Starting point is 00:38:49 That's why I really hate sharks. Guys, she was floating around in the water for two days. Yeah, a little girl. How old was she? Amazing. And now she works on the ocean. Seven. Directly to the proximity of sharks.
Starting point is 00:39:02 She was seven years old and floating outside in the ocean for two days. Two days. So then they, yeah, oh yeah, yeah. I wanna see that movie. Me too. And this is basically Robert Shaw's monologue about the USS Mississippi or whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:39:16 Because I think they directly quote the- Yes, so many people went in and the sharks took the rest. Is a line for life. There's a lot of Jaws references. Oh yeah, we're gonna need a bigger helicopter. And they kill, early in the movie, they kill one shark exactly the way that they killed Bruce in Jaws
Starting point is 00:39:32 by putting a tank in its mouth and shooting him. And that was early on in this one. They really did that quick. So there is a thing. Almost as if like, hey, Jaws, you know, that's not good enough. We're gonna do that first thing, and then you're gonna see some really good.
Starting point is 00:39:43 We're gonna get that out of the way, and then you'll see some really good shark kills Yeah, she says you're gonna need it we're gonna need a bigger helicopter, which is a Jaws quite oh crap Look at all those sharks she says at one point while they're flying closer And when they fly close to the sharknado, it's just teeming with live sharks Chomping around like what the fuck is going on? Then they start throwing bombs into the things, and there's three tornadoes,
Starting point is 00:40:09 and the first one works, the second one works. The third one, it doesn't work, and a shark latches itself onto the helicopter, and she takes a knife and starts stabbing it, and she's like, yeah, I'm gonna, she said, I think I wrote it down like she's basically like like they're flying with soup by the way they're super close to the tornado which always was freaking me out I hope this oh yeah anyways this is so stupid okay she's stabbing the thing and
Starting point is 00:40:40 killing it and then loses her footing falls out of the helicopter and into a shark's mouth just like whoomp whoomp right in it. Which was surprising to us. Totally perfect like fell out of a helicopter into the belly of a shark. It was like a beautiful NBA shot. It was all net. Nothing but net. We were watching and we were like, she's dead? She can't be dead. That's what I said. I lost my mind at that point.
Starting point is 00:41:10 When she fell out and just fell for like five feet and then like, totally perfectly into his shark. Because that's what I was obsessed with watching it is like the same thing happens to the Australian guy. He's just sitting on his car and a shark falls onto him, mouth first, just like chomp, chomp onto his leg. I don't think that these sharks want to eat humans. I think that they're almost like, their mouth is open
Starting point is 00:41:33 because they're like, oh fuck, I'm in a tornado, and then they just land on him. Maybe the red shirt kid who's just running and the shark falls on him and it just bites his arm off. Bites his arm off and then a different shark just happens to land on him, breaking him into... By the way, a lot of deaths in this shark tornado are because of just sharks falling and landing on them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:52 I mean, they're just being tossed, but there's some deaths too that are weird. Sometimes people get their arm ripped off, but then that ship captain gets eaten by the shark. But he's just kind of exfoliated. Piece by piece. Yeah, his face is a little bit exfoliated or something. It's like they're... each... because he's in kind of exfoliating. Piece by piece. Yeah, he's just kind of, his face is like a little bit exfoliated or something. It's like they're, each, each, because he's in the Sharknado. It's like each pass of a shark, they just get the next layer of epidermis. Yes.
Starting point is 00:42:14 You know what I mean? I know we're going to get to the big, the final. Oh yeah, we have to talk about that. We're going to get to it. But before we do, can I just mention the worst line of dialogue? Sure. The one that I mean they think is going to be really funny and campy but is just terrible is the Australian guy, the aforementioned Australian guy. Once Tara Reed's boyfriend dies
Starting point is 00:42:31 and they're basically standing knee-deep in bloody water, he looks down at the water and says, looks like that time of the month. No! Oh, that was my favorite line too! I missed that! That was a totally 80-yard line in a bloody red room. By the way, they couldn't find the shark in the eight by 12 room, which was kind of a gimme.
Starting point is 00:42:53 Do you mean the eight by 12 room? Cause there's eight by 12s of Tara Reid up on the wall. Yeah, the eight by, yeah. She makes her headshots slightly bigger so they stick out in a casting director's pile. You have to these days. Oh, you're telling me. So the director here, I'm looking at his Twitter page, and he says that he tried to make this
Starting point is 00:43:10 movie in the vein of early Peter Jackson. Like the feebles and stuff? I guess, early Peter Jackson, early Sam Raimi. And he talks a little bit about John Heard, and I want to kind of get into John heard oh, yeah, which is what I talked about He's the most famous guy in this whole thing. Yes clearly didn't want to be there for that much and his character I thought died very early and he writes here the director. He says he goes he had to kill John heard because Story wise it wasn't possible to keep him around for the rest of the movie They couldn't afford him for more than like one day.
Starting point is 00:43:45 But here's what's weird about like the final sort of the people who are left at the end. It's these heroes that we know, Ayan Zering, Nova. Nova's technically not left at the end. No! Well, but I'm saying just you're right, but a part of the team that's at this supply store or whatever, who's going to go to the final battle for the to the shark tornado, is like Nova, Ayn Zeering, Tara Reed.
Starting point is 00:44:07 The daughter. The daughter, Claudia. The son. The son, and then just two random guys from the flight school. Yeah. Like, it's so strange that they don't just give us our final team at the end.
Starting point is 00:44:19 Right, well I think they definitely wanted some deaths, but they couldn't kill off any of the people that we care so much about. Well, they try, I mean, well wanted some deaths, but they couldn't kill off any of the people that we care so much about Well, they try me well the Australian guy got killed But even to introduce the Sun that late in the movie It's a little bizarre is that Iron Zering Sun? I look, it is not Iron Zering Sun But I just had I just had a thought the bombs they put in the shark NATO's
Starting point is 00:44:39 Would arguably kill a lot of people as well right because would they? Oh yeah because wouldn't it's an explosion And then it was probably where they was touching down on the ground yeah What no, but I mean I'm sure they would kill people, but like I mean maybe it was worth it Yeah, all those sharks are now all those sharks then fell onto people. I'm sure yeah So they killed they they may have killed more people like why not what's the harm Just let the Sharknado pass. Exactly, Sharknado is gonna run out. What are you talking about? The Sharknado is like scooping up at people.
Starting point is 00:45:07 But it eventually ends, it eventually ends, right, all tornadoes end, they don't go on forever. Well, there were three Sharknados in Los Angeles. By the way, how do tornadoes die out? Yeah, that's, I think, yeah, does weather conditions change? But June, but you know a little bit about tornadoes, how do they die?
Starting point is 00:45:22 June, can you tell us? This is one of the things I don't know about tornadoes. By the way, this leads me to believe that Prologue had something to do with it. But you know a little bit about tornadoes. How do they die? This is one of the things I don't know about tornadoes. By the way, this leads me to believe that Prologue had something to do with it. Wouldn't it be Marine Life NATO? Like wouldn't it be every kind of fish and kelp and... That's why I think it's the beginning. Like they had all those sharks there, the tornado originated there, those sharks became the Sharknado.
Starting point is 00:45:41 But then how did it split into three? There's three Sharknados. Guys, this is actually very bad news for how tornadoes end When it starts raining it gets cold and tornadoes and so but this movie then posits. It's raining the entire time Needed to do more research thunder I'm looking at you Thunder Levin. Oh my god. Could you believe the destruction of Beverly Hills? I mean all those great places. The Hotel Roosevelt. Prada and Family Mart. Everyone. Man's Chinese Theater. But Family Mart! That was in the middle of the Beverly Hills. Yeah, I didn't see that one. It was first a shot of Rodeo Drive, and then it was a shot of Family Mart.
Starting point is 00:46:26 Just, like, what is even, I don't even know what Family Mart is. Speaking of random shots, April Richardson pointed this out on Instagram. They, in the news footage, they have a lower third saying Hurricane, you know, David. Hurricane David, which by the, are Hurricanes named male names? No, they're always female. No, they're, I think they changed it now. Oh, they changed it?
Starting point is 00:46:46 Oh, really? I think so, because wasn't there like an Ivan a couple years ago? Oh, yeah, you're right. But they misspell hurricane. What? It's Hurrican in it. That's how little people are asleep at the switch
Starting point is 00:47:01 in this movie. Holy shit. So John Hurric Hearn dies, oh go ahead. No, I was just saying like, it did start to feel, I mean I think this wasn't fully explored, but I think maybe something was initially set up in that first scene about this sharknado being a, yes about sharks, but also about like the greed of these people and the money also got lifted up into there. Like there was something very sinister about the greed of these people, and the money also got lifted up into there. There was something very sinister about the tornado. Do you think people-
Starting point is 00:47:29 No, what I'm saying was- Something sinister about the tornado? Yes, because it wasn't just picking up marine life and anything on its way. Don't you think the money should have fallen down on top of Ian's earring at the end? Wait. That would have been great. That would have been amazing.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Can I ask you a question? Do you think that the tornado just wanted the money? Buy a new bar. Do you think the tornado wanted to accumulate money in sharks to become powerful? Oh, that's the tornado is the villain. Yeah. The tornado needs that money. The tornado wanted to be like the kingpin.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Wait a second. The ship captain worked for the tornado. Oh, he was a tornado. That's why his whole voice was dubbed. He had a human coat on. I love this. And that's why when his skin all comes off, that's just him becoming the tornado.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Yes. And that's like, you don't see a tornado. Now it's making sense. Now this movie makes sense. Oh, by the way, I found what she says when she's stabbing the shark that's clomped onto the helicopter rail. She goes, die already.
Starting point is 00:48:21 Why don't you die already? Good. I did like when he rescued his daughter when they're driving in the car. She pulls out her small portable television, which is something that I had when I was a child when they were like Walkmans. She should have an iPad or Galaxy Tab or something of the day, not an old TV with an antenna. Don't you think that Thunder originally wrote this script for two older people?
Starting point is 00:48:48 Like it felt very much so that she was almost the same age as her daughter, Claudia. Well, we looked it up. Tara Reade's actually 37. And her son was established as 22. So I and Zering and she had sex at 15, I guess, which I guess is why they had so many problems. I guess I guess yeah. Yeah when I was having babies. Because I came into this movie in the in the middle and so I had no context for any of I came in at the
Starting point is 00:49:15 flight school closet. Oh that's very late. I know that's that's what I'm saying. So I came in at that point so I didn't know anybody's relationships. So the moment when the son called Tara Reed Mom, I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, what is happening here? Is this for real? That blew my mind. And I felt like I just, she just was a disaster. Yeah. Well, I kept wondering, I kept looking at her saying,
Starting point is 00:49:45 why is she worthless, why is she getting paid, how can they justify paying her a salary and then at the very end, which the end is great, the very last scene where I am staring, he jumps into the shark's mouth with a chainsaw. A shark is flying through the air at his daughter. He has enough time to push his daughter aside, turn on his chainsaw, jump directly into its mouth and then gets completely swallowed by the shark. Which everyone thinks he's dead.
Starting point is 00:50:18 By the way, in mid-air. This all happens in mid-air. Anything you want to say about this movie, that sequence. Nullified. Yeah. Amazing. Perfect. Unbelievable. Perfect filmmaking.
Starting point is 00:50:27 And what I think they should have actually done to make it just a little bit better is his daughter should have been deaf, because no one in this movie can hear. He's like only five feet away. He's like, get out of here! Get out of here! He's always the one. Because he's doing hero stuff in the movie of going, move!
Starting point is 00:50:40 Which, if you watch movies looking for that, the hero in a movie is always telling people to move. Because they want to establish that he's more aware than anyone else. And that he thinks of other people more than himself. I think John McClane yells move a lot too. Yeah, yeah, because he's always thinking of others. But anyway, so Ian's earring jumps inside this shark's mouth
Starting point is 00:50:58 then bursts out of the side of it with this chainsaw. That's already enough. He's covered in gore. Wait, oh, that's the scene that I wrote, is this happening in real time? Because the length of time that the chainsaw is, you hear it in the shark first. Yeah, it should just be, boom, he's out.
Starting point is 00:51:16 And then it sticks through. It's not a thick membrane. And then it takes so long for him to actually. For him to cut through the shark's skin. Oh boy. They cut, they reverse on the family like six times. It takes so long for him to actually cut through the shark's skin. Oh boy, this is rough. They reverse on the family like six times. Six times back and forth.
Starting point is 00:51:32 Why didn't they, to me this is a perfect moment that they did in Anaconda. I want to be inside that shark's stomach. I want to see it in there. Yeah. But they can't because that would ruin the surprise. Which is he reaches back into the shark's stomach, pulls out Nova who was eaten by the exact same shark. And why was that shark all of a sudden, because that shark has been airborne for a long time.
Starting point is 00:51:57 You would think that at least the human body would bring it down a little bit, like an extra... No. But, okay, so Ian's earring is covered in gore, he's just saved the heroine of the movie, Tara Reid goes up to him and I, first of all, it's Ion's Earring, that's bad, he's covered in gross, gross blood. Like he's covered in next level gore,
Starting point is 00:52:16 like crazy, like gloopy, gloppy blood gore. She goes up to him and with the, a look of distaste, I have never seen before in my life she gives him the tiniest quickest peck on the mouth and I said there is why she is getting her paycheck. Well sure her character does one of the worst lines in the whole movie and I didn't write it down exactly but I'll give you the gist of it which is they're driving by a school bus full of children and of course Finn.
Starting point is 00:52:44 Driven by Cousin Oliver Guthal, yes. Oh really? That's Cousin Oliver? Yes, that's Cousin Oliver I just wrote down that he looks like a pedophile version of Penn Jillette Uh... Oh, so you mean he looks like Penn Jillette? He's driving by a bus full of children, he's like, we gotta help those children She's like, no! You help us!
Starting point is 00:53:01 This is your problem! You help people! Like, this is a busload of children, people! Yeah. You help us. This is your problem. Yeah. You help people. Like this is a busload of children, people. Yeah. Come on. But I love the solution. I'm gonna rappel down. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:11 Great. The crazy thing about being eaten by a shark in that sequence is like they don't chew at all. So if you're eaten, you just go. Like fully digested. You just go right into the stomach. You go straight into the stomach. Right into the stomach.
Starting point is 00:53:23 But sometimes you get the lazy shark is like, chompachompachompa. It depends on if they, it depends, sharks, okay here's the deal. Sharks chew on this. This is what I know about sharks. I'm not a marine biologist. But I mean compared to that,
Starting point is 00:53:40 how much June knows about tornadoes. I probably know as much about sharks. So sharks, as I understand it when When when they don't when they went when somebody they're gonna eat is should die is bad or needs to die They chomp a lot with their teeth, but when they think I just want this person in my tum-tum And maybe I want to hang out with them later. They just they just go for the full throat swallow Right, so you think that there's a there's some sort of a thing where they're like I'm gonna digest this guy Look at a different pocket like that pocket you put change in or like when a squirrel puts nuts in its cheek I found when anyone is contemptuous of the situation
Starting point is 00:54:19 Then a shark will attack them. Yeah, they will eat them By the way though, I and Zerrin could have, when that shark was flying down at him out of the air, he could have literally just walked five feet away and been so safe. The shark would have hit the ground and died, or it would have chomped around a little bit. Or it would have flapped around for a while. You think it might have chomped around a little bit?
Starting point is 00:54:39 I loved when they're in the, when, when. Chomp, chomp, chomp, chomp, chomp, chomp, chomp. I loved when they're in, when fucking Dum Dum and Nova are in the helicopter and they're all in the old age home and one of the old ladies goes, who is that up there? And Iron Thering goes, that's my son. And she goes, you must be very proud. And he goes, yeah, yeah, I am.
Starting point is 00:55:00 I was like, what is this? Like why would you advocate like, yeah, my only son flying a helicopter into a sharknado throwing bombs down at us Yeah, with a terrible idea. I want to point out about the about when the shark lands in the pool. Yeah Oh, and his little explodes by the way, by the way, everyone's out of the pool But in the first two people jump in the pool. Yeah, did you notice that? Yeah, shark lands in the pool and they get in. They go into it. They were freaking out. But everyone's out and he decides, what does he decide to do?
Starting point is 00:55:30 Everyone's safe, let's light them on fire. And destroy their pool. Let's pour gasoline into the pool. Like one tank. That's a huge cleaning bill for the old folks. He throws matches in and the pool. By the way, sharks couldn't live in chlorinated water by the bay. B, that shark right there, matches in and the way couldn't live in chlorinated water by the way be that
Starting point is 00:55:45 but that shark right there that shark is now not a problem yes it's no he's in a pool well no no no I disagree because remember and when they're in the house they go there's a shark in the pool they open the window and that shark flew out of the pool into the window I thought that was a different shark I thought so too I thought that was a shark that was a part of. I thought that was a shark just, yeah. When they have that fight in the house, their house literally crumbles. Like crumbles like it was made out of like paper mache.
Starting point is 00:56:15 It was like, like, even if it was a flood, bad flooding will not crumble a house. They were bad house flippers. So, Aureda understand that if you are eaten by a shark in that way where you're just sort of swallowed whole and you land in the tummy, once you're in there, you just die of starvation. The tum tum. The digestive acids also. Well, it's like Pinocchio when he was in the belly of that whale. You can do fun stuff in there.
Starting point is 00:56:39 There's things to be had. There's good times to be had in there. Clearly there's enough room in that stomach for Ion's Earring, Nova, and that chainsaw, and the fact to get it on, put it on. He was able to start a chainsaw in a shark's tum tum with a woman there. Why start it before he was swallowed? That's what I was wondering. Because you're implying that he's going to cut the shit out of the shark, but instead he jumps in, you don't-
Starting point is 00:57:06 What was interesting is- Well I thought he was gonna be- It almost seemed like he knew she was in there. I thought he was gonna do a space jam. How did he not stab her? Yeah! With the chainsaw going in. Cause it was running!
Starting point is 00:57:15 It was running! Yes! It was running. She should be- she should be totally decapitated. He should be like, good news, I'm okay. Bad news, I chopped her in half. She was okay. Nova was in there.
Starting point is 00:57:24 Until I got in there. It would be amazing if his character was a magician, and he chopped her in half and then I'm okay It would be amazing if his character was a magician and he chopped her in half and then pulled her out of the body totally But I mean pretty awesome But I thought he was gonna do like a space jam like a Michael Jordan to jump up and go through the shark Yes, cut the shark in half To that he did What I know he did that thing When the shark was flying out of the sky at the airfield where he just was like Sharks are there's no
Starting point is 00:57:56 There's no I love trans like physics. There's no weight to them Yeah, they're like you can cut them in half you can step with a pool of pool cue they can fly through windows Yeah, they kind of hit you they knock you over. There's like just their weight of the sharks are all over the place Oh, yeah, here's a thought. So this wasn't realistic. I don't think so. I mean again, I'm not a scientist I don't know um in most I would call this like a thriller movie I guess our horror movie, but in most movies like this Sometimes like the people who get killed are bad in some way, misbehaving in some way. Like Piranha, a movie that I was in,
Starting point is 00:58:29 some people who get killed, they're asking for it. They're too sexy. That's why I say the people who are contemptuous of the situation, because you notice anyone who goes, shut up, this isn't happening, immediately will get eaten by a shark. Yeah, but yeah, you're right. So I guess I just wanted to see some more bad behavior before we saw some people get killed because that surfer didn't deserve to die
Starting point is 00:58:49 But that boyfriend did he was a real piece of shit Because he said she's mine or whatever that was. Oh my gosh. Yeah Oh and and the and John heard loses his life saving a dog Yeah, that was his save the cat moment, but it was a save the dog moment Do you think that April and Finn ended up together at the end? dog yeah that was to save the cat moment but it was a save the dog moment do you think that April and Finn ended up together at the end after that passion a kiss when she pulls away from that kiss when she pulls away from that kiss she's got blood on her and she looks like you fucking dick and you know
Starting point is 00:59:22 immediately they yelled cut and it's like alright get in get in there Why put off Tara? Why put off Tara? She looked so she could not not Show that she was so angry and was disgusted by what had just happened and what was her blood or ions earring? Yeah, you think Tara Reed is upset that she's not like her downfall was not as harsh as Lindsay Lohan or Amanda Bynes like I feel Like she got out kind of early now. She's a, like her downfall was not as harsh as Lindsay Lohan or Amanda Bynes. I feel like she got out kinda early. Now she's a sort of like, she's like a regular person. There was no social media when she melted down.
Starting point is 00:59:51 There wasn't the same, it wasn't the same kind of like, part of the way that Lindsay and, especially Amanda Bynes, are melting down is like so present because of Twitter and all this other nonsense. And that just didn't exist. All you had was was Terry like drunk and
Starting point is 01:00:06 Her boob popping out. Is that why you're not on Twitter? Yeah, that's why I'm not on Twitter so you can't document my downfall Tara Reid is up for the sequel the sequel there people are talking about the sequel today Yeah, and she said I am down for a sharknado sequel if the sequel came out tomorrow people would see it Okay, I don't know about the day. I agree. This is what I'm gonna say. People of sci-fi. Yes. Put us in the sequel. Yes.
Starting point is 01:00:33 Yes! We will all. We want, we will. Let us promote. Let's write it. We will work on it in whatever capacity. We will take eight hours and write it. We will do the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:00:42 We should do it like we all write five pages. This is what David Lindelof is what like a corp. Yes. This is what we did with Rambo versus Rocky I don't know if you ever read it so a dimly loft positive look up Rambo versus Rocky by the way We we should get everybody together and write this movie. Yes, and they would make it and it would be amazing We should make movies like this I was watching this and I was like fuck yeah this movie would be so much better If it was all of us in it What I should do how to make made films have like a straight Directed DVD like a thing where you guys make movies like a production company By the way, this is the best. This is the best idea we've ever had
Starting point is 01:01:18 I really really love it Any what would the sequel what would be the sequel? Would it be a sequel? Yeah, some other climate event? Well, I mean, like somebody talked to me last night and they said, oh, wait, what was it? It was, oh damn, I'm trying to think of different animals to come out.
Starting point is 01:01:38 Well, I was saying on Twitter that a Boston Terrier NATO would just be the cutest thing of all. Oh, that's a cute one. I thought of Moncano, which is a monkey volcano. Oh! It shoots out monkeys that like to eat humans. And they like to rip their dicks off. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:50 How about a dino- Ha ha ha! How about a dino-cano? Ooh. Oh, I like that! A volcano breaks open for the first time, and dinosaurs start popping, like, are being, like, shot out of it.
Starting point is 01:02:02 What about- Dinosaurs that have been living underground all the time. Oh, yeah, so they've been living underground all the time. Dinosaurs are not extinct. They are not extinct. What are they living off of? What? What are they living off of?
Starting point is 01:02:12 I don't know. Such a good question. Gold. What about a bat-foon? A bat typhoon. Oh, I like that. Yep. Yep.
Starting point is 01:02:22 I will say that one thing that June said to me last night while watching this movie, and you turned to me so sincerely, and you just said, this movie is really dark. Yeah. Did you mean it had a dark worldview? Is that what you're saying? Well, you know what it was?
Starting point is 01:02:36 There were so many people being killed off in the first five minutes of the movie that it just was a real. Like you were upset by it. Well, because there was no love between any of the characters in the movie right there was no Sort of like oh we want them to be back together It was just it posited a world that I don't want to live in did everybody sharknado or no
Starting point is 01:02:56 Did everybody feel like? Everybody in the family hated the daughter. Oh She was they didn't even wrap up her story. No, they didn't do anything. Everybody gets a love interest but her. And that's her bitch, that's her whole thing. She just gets a bitch about her dad in the grocery store.
Starting point is 01:03:11 That's her whole thing. She's like, you came to save Matt or whatever his name is in man, man, man. Like she's just like a fucking dummy. She also had a weird subplot. But she had a weird subplot. I feel like he kind of created that monster because then he said to her,
Starting point is 01:03:23 he's like, I came to get you first. Yeah. Yeah. Which is pretty fucked up thing for a yeah, which is pretty your daddy's little girl. Yeah. Yeah, plus there's a weird subplot where she's like no No, take this other freeway. This is the shortcut I use when I go with my friends to Hollywood and he says what are you doing in Hollywood? Hollywood I guess is just that was sort of yeah, they were definitely playing into that idea of like, wow, now that there's a disaster, we're really learning a lot of things about each other. Yeah. I came to get you first, baby.
Starting point is 01:03:51 So creepy! Pet this for daddy. So you guys recommend this movie, clearly. Oh, clearly! If your mom gets eaten by a shark, it's just you and me. Well, thank you for listening to this very special, important edition of How Did This Get Made. We'll see you next time.
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