How Did This Get Made? - Matinee Monday: Tammy and the T-Rex

Episode Date: November 7, 2022

An animatronic dinosaur with a teen’s brain, dinosaur charades, a weird striptease for a brain in a bowl, and much more. Paul, June, and Jason discuss the 1994 science fiction comedy Tammy and the T...-Rex. So you know what that means…(Originally released 05/20/2021) For more Matinee Monday content, visit Paul's YouTube page: https://www.youtube.com/c/PaulScheerGo to www.hdtgm.com for tour dates, tickets, and more. Follow Paul on Letterboxd: https://letterboxd.com/paulscheer/HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: https://discord.gg/paulscheerCheck out Paul and Rob Huebel live on Twitch (https://www.twitch.tv/friendzone) every Thursday 8-10pm ESTSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael here: listen.earwolf.com/deepdiveSubscribe to Unspooled with Paul Scheer and Amy Nicholson here: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledCheck out The Jane Club over at www.janeclub.comCheck out new HDTGM merch over at https://www.teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmWhere to Find Jason, June & Paul:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is Not on Twitter

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Starting point is 00:00:00 They say true love never dies, especially if you transplant its brain into a robot dinosaur. We saw Tammy and the T-Rex. Oh, I'm sorry. Hold on. We saw Tanny and the T-Rex. Oh wait. Hold on. We saw Tammy and the Teenage T-Rex. I don't know what we saw, but we saw one of those, so you know what that means. We saw Tammy and the Teenage T-Rex. I don't know what we saw, but we saw one of those, so you know what that means. All right. Hello, people of Earth, and welcome to a virtual How Does This Get Made live event. Today, we will be discussing Tammy and the T-Rex, or at least, like I said in the opening, we think that's what it's called, because this movie, if you've watched it, it will say it's Tanny and the T-Rex. And if you've watched the PG-13 version of the movie, it is called
Starting point is 00:01:50 Tammy and the Teenage T-Rex. So there's a lot of titles here. I don't know which version you saw. There's a gore cut. There's a, like I said, a PG-13, a little bit more romantic cut. But the thing that you have to remember is the plot is the same in all of them. And what is the plot? Well, I'll tell you. Denise Richards is in love with Paul Walker, but yet her old boyfriend won't let her go. So he does what any old scorn boyfriend does. He takes her new boyfriend, Paul Walker, out to the animal park to let him be eaten alive by a lion. His body then is taken by a mad scientist and his brain is taken out and put into the body of an animatronic dinosaur. That's the premise of this movie. Then the dinosaur has its revenge and continues its love story.
Starting point is 00:02:48 It's complicated and it's amazing. And I am so excited that we are talking about this film because this is like one of my favorite types of films, which is it knows it's insane, but at the same time it is being incredibly insane. It's like they just knew a little bit of how insane they were. They didn't understand the full birth of it, I guess. To talk about this film, we have two amazing people, people who love gore, people who love dinosaurs. Please welcome my co-host, Mr. Jason Manzuchus. Come on! What? I expect people at home shouting at their screens. I'm waiting for them to stop screaming. Paul, how are you? What's up jerks? What's up jerks? Indeed, Jason, so excited to talk to you about this movie. I mean... Excuse me, Paul. Hold on for a minute, Paul. Excuse me.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Oh, the tea is out. I gotta steep that tea for all the teaheads. For all the teaheads, tell me what tea you're having in the chat. Report in the chat. It is tea time. Moroccan mint, baby. Moroccan mint. I love it. I love that you're bringing it. I went on the liquor out. I went with aviation gin. Ryan Reynolds gin. Come on. What is going on? I feel like in a different episode you had a Deadpool head. I did. I feel like you are... Wait, are you somehow working for Ryan Reynolds? I don't know. Maybe I'll use my cricket mobile phone and give him a call and find out. Wait a minute. What? Do you have a Canadian passport now? All I'm going to say is check out the Hitman's bodyguard. It is going to bring you some joy and it's so due for a sequel. I cannot
Starting point is 00:04:50 wait. I'm glad that movie theaters are open again so I can enjoy that sequel in the theaters where movies go long. Yes, movies. Keep them in the theaters and out of our homes. Jason, we were going to do this movie a long time ago and this DVD has been sitting on my shelf and I've not opened it until last night. This was wild because I only knew the title. I didn't know what we were getting into but the title alone suggested to me what might happen. Huge reveals straight out of the gate. Paul Walker, right? Our guy from Fast & Furious, shocked. I didn't know he was in this movie. Young, looking great, handsome. Denise Richards in this movie, crushing. Stone Cold crushing this movie. I was like, oh, okay. I see what's happening. Then the ship. I was like, okay,
Starting point is 00:05:48 cool. This is like a lost kind of teen movie. Yeah. You insert a, what appears to me to be the Warriors from the movie The Warriors as a, like the gang of bad guys seems to be ported in from an early 80s gang movie and then animatronic dinosaur and mad scientist. I was like, how have we never done this before? There's so much to break down but I love any movie that basically feels like someone went on the Jurassic Park ride at Universal. It was like, hmm, if I could maybe steal one of those, I could make a movie. Instead of the other way around, which is like, those are like the bad versions of what were in the movie. They took that. It was also an interesting thing to be like, oh, I see that Jurassic Park remade dinosaurs and what I'm going to do is just bring
Starting point is 00:06:44 human consciousness to an animatronic dinosaur. That's, that's a very bizarre move. I mean, wild, wild move. And you know who loves dinosaurs, who loves a romance and who loves hats and beautiful hair styles and beautiful wardrobe. My other co-host, please welcome Miss June Diane, Rayfield June. How are you? Let me just finish that sip. I'm drinking a glass of wine. I'm doing fine, Paul. How are you? I'm well, glad to hear that you are fine. Yeah, I'm drinking wine like an adult woman. Oh, great. Like an adult woman. I'm drinking tea like an adult man. Okay. And I'm going to say something about this because I got a lot of flak. I got a lot of flak. I got a lot of pushback already. Is this a flak attack? This is a major flak attack. I want to say, I thought I made it clear,
Starting point is 00:07:41 but it's not that I just don't care for male tea drinkers. I don't care for tea drinkers in general. Wow. And the chat is going wild. I'm sure the chat, I'm not worried about, I am not here to keep the chat happy. Okay, that's not what I'm doing tonight. Chappy. Yeah, I don't care if you're chappy or you're not chappy. But I want to say this. Talk about chappy. I think the reason, I think the reason why I've been so turned off to tea drinkers is because when I was at acting school, New York University's Tisch School of the Arts, I was a student for four years. Who are you looking at? Stella Adler, Conservatory of Acting. You brought in a small audience. You brought in a small audience to our house. You seem to be looking. Who's over there? That's fine. Right over there. Let her into.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Do you have a VIP section? I've sold a few tickets of my own for a private VIP experience. I had to seat them. I had to be like an usher earlier. I've been running around. I'm sweating my ass out here. Listen, at Tisch, there were so many musical theater students and I honestly, especially women who were always on vocal rest and always drinking tea. Here's what I'm going to say. I would understand if I was like this, like, I love my tea. There's no other way to drink tea than like that. No, I'm drinking tea like a goddamn man drink. Wow. And here I am. And once again, as a little like a dichotomy of our show, I'm in between both of you. I'm drinking alcoholic beverage and I have a tea beverage here too. So I have both sides. Oh, I'm sorry, Paul. Let me be
Starting point is 00:09:26 clear. Ice tea is not what I'm concerned about. Thank you. That's why I'm married. Let's see. 100% clear. It's hot tea that you have absolutely contempt for. It's this. It's the soaking. It's the pulling it out and then putting the tea bag like soaking. Don't say soaking. You don't soak the tea bag. Oh, this tea bag is soaked. Steeping soaking. Steeping soaking whatever. It's the same idea. It's so gross. You don't you don't say I'm going to go out to the hot tub to have a good steep. That's a good soak, right? All right. Ariel and the chat is saying that tea is the salad of drinks. Now, I don't know. Exactly. Wow. That salad is good. That salad is good. I didn't know how to take that. You go out to dinner at this point after a year and a half,
Starting point is 00:10:17 you want to go out to a restaurant, Paul, and have a salad? Well, I'm not saying it's my main. But that's what she's saying. Tea is the salad of drinks. It's neither here nor there. But no, salad is even at its best. No, no, no, no, even at its best. It's never that great. Well, I agree. Listen, agree to disagree. A nice chime. June, a nice chime. I'm almost done. I'm almost done fully soaking this tea bag. That's the worst. I hate seeing people deal with their tea. I hate it. I hate it. Oh, we could spend a lot of time on tea talk. I couldn't be happier to be here with you both to talk about a truly insane movie. Oh, by the way, I didn't tell anybody this, but this is just for the chat. We do have a special guest here tonight. Here he is.
Starting point is 00:11:11 A real T-Rex is here to chat. It was a lot of fun. Wait, are you doing that? Did you plan on doing the voice for this? No, I did not plan. I was trying to turn him on and I couldn't figure out where the on button was. Okay, so I'm going to say something, actually. I'm glad you just did that, Paul, because that was one of my first questions. If the T-Rex has the brain of what's his name? Paul Walker. Paul Walker. If he has his brain, why can't he talk? Okay, great. Well, you also notice because he's like made of foam, rubber and whatever else, like his tongue doesn't move. Like his tongue doesn't have mobility. He's not a body. But he can also, but he can send some signals to like pick up a phone and dial numbers. Okay, we need to talk about how agile he is with
Starting point is 00:12:06 those hands. Like tiny T-Rex hands, he searches the pay phones change thing for in case there's change in there. He gives a finger to the cops. No, he like, I mean, look, the hand work in this clearly is a wink at the audience because, well, I mean, let's even take a step back to what June was saying in the beginning. Like this movie is insane simply because most films would say, hey, we have an animatronic dinosaur. Let's make a movie about a dinosaur. And this movie goes, we have an animatronic dinosaur. Let's make the movie about an animatronic dinosaur. Like they're like the premise is he is already like a robot. And so that's a weird thing. Like the robot is. So you're saying like, why not go to like the Museum of Natural History and get a real dinosaur
Starting point is 00:13:05 skeleton? What it is, what it seems to me to be is a Frankenstein kind of riff, which is, you know, giving consciousness to something that is otherwise a non-conscious entity. Right? Right. Like the mad scientist seems to be very Dr. Frankenstein creating Frankenstein's monster, like it lives, it lives kind of thing. But what I couldn't understand, and I agree with you, June, I agree. Like if he can roar, if he can make noises with his mouth and go, yes, that body, not that body, actually mostly not that body and not that body and not that body. Oh my god, that scene is the scene where they're puppeting dead bodies in the window for him to thumbs up, thumbs down. It's one of the best things I've ever seen. Michael should choose his own body. You're right.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Michael, I love you. What do you think of this one? It's short, but it's thick. You know what I mean, Mike? No. No? He's thinking, no. Yes. Too short. But you can't have everything, honey. Hurry up. He's gonna like this, man. Michael, what about this one? He's a brother, Michael. He might like it. I mean, he's in the back of a tractor trailer, anything not to see, because when we first meet the animatronic dinosaur, he is on like a platform, like a platform that you would display in a museum or on a Jurassic Park, the ride kind of a thing. And so you can't really ever see his feet. And when you do, it's almost better than the hands, because it's so janky. But I guess
Starting point is 00:14:49 I'm thinking about Frankenstein, and Frankenstein wasn't able to speak, right? But you feel like at the end of this movie, you wanted the dinosaur to go like, or like, you know, like try for something. Yeah. I agree. I agree. And it felt to me like, you know, if they, if they'd allowed for him to grow even rudimentary speech capabilities, yeah, it would have been cool. But we would have been robbed of the Denise Richards game of charades that is sounds like, okay, sounds like, okay, Michael, Michael brain, Michael brain, Michael's brain is inside you. That jump was wild. Oh, I get it. Sounds like, sounds like, like, uh, singers. Um, no. Um, rain. Rain, rain, pain, brain name, brain. Sounds like brain.
Starting point is 00:16:03 What brain? Michael, Michael brain, Michael brain. You have Michael's brain. By the way, also a complicated game, a complicated game of charades. Like I feel like he was going on like rhymes with like, like getting to brain. It just seemed to like, just say, I'm Michael. Like I'm like, I'm Michael. He starts with more specificity. He points, he eats the yellow flower like, like Michael. He points to the bracelet that Michael gave her and says, and points to himself bracelet himself. And she says, Michael gave this to me, Michael. And then, then he does charades. By the way, this movie takes place in 36 hours. So I will also say that maybe Denise Richards character was just still in shock and having a traumatic moment because ultimately
Starting point is 00:17:06 she goes to like whatever a dance that is before the boy is even buried like in the ground. Like it was like she's pulling herself up by her bootstraps like instantaneously. She's like, well, I guess I got to go to the dance. I mean, even though my boyfriend was murdered, there's so little, no, it's not stakes, but kind of so many insane things happen in and around these characters, specifically Denise Richards, obviously, but in front of all these other people, inclusive of Billy, the bad guy who again seems to be 36 and in charge of a group of gang, like gang kids from a New York 1980s movie. He's basically out there being like, I'm going to keep, he's being dragged away by police screaming, I'm going to kill you. I'm going to kill you and I'm going to murder
Starting point is 00:17:59 you and the police are like, everybody is like, there are nothing matters. Paul Walker gets dropped in a wildlife sanctuary is mauled by a lion. And by the way, that scene is is terrific and terrifying. It is horrific because I look, I saw a lot of like janky special effects in this movie and I love them all like the flat body, everything. But when that person had their head rolling up the flat body, I didn't like that. I mean, amazing. But when, but when that lion had his head, you know, in his mouth, I was like, I don't know how they did this because that looks fucking real. Well, when they cut to Paul Walker in the hospital, he is without a mark on him. The scratch. He has a black eye. A black eye. That's from the fight. That's from the nut grabbing
Starting point is 00:18:56 fight. That's not, I don't even think that's how I am. We have to talk about the nut grabbing fight as well. Or the grabbing fight. I'm not sure what they, I don't, I'm not sure if they were grabbing dicks, nuts or the whole, the whole package. Well, I mean, that scene, that scene made no sense to me. I've never seen, I've never seen anything like that in my life. Honestly, I've never seen any. Is that a thing? Like, that's what I asked. That's what I wrote. Not that long. Not that long. Look, when you're in a fight. What do you mean, not that long, Paul? What do you mean, not that long? What do you mean, not that long? Well, you guys have been in fights, right? You might grab a guy's dick. You might grab a guy's dick in a fight, but only for a second or two.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Yeah. You're not like doing like a, you're not twisting it, but I'm saying like in a fight, you might want to take a cheap shot at someone's junk, but it's a cheap shot. They, they kind of had their hands, like they were like, I'm, I've got my hand on something. Now I'm twisting it, I'm turning it. And then the reveal at the end that Paul Walker goes, I was wearing a cup. So Paul Walker was acting that whole time. And then the other guy must have just been grabbing the cup and thinking that those were balls. Not noticed. Not noticed that he was grabbing hard plastic. I mean, I'm, I've worn a cup. I'm wearing one right now. And it's very hard to, yeah. If, if I'm, if let's say I'm grabbing a guy's nuts right here, right? And even if he's grabbing
Starting point is 00:20:13 mine. Okay. Oh, this hand right here. Yeah. Boom. Yeah. Well, but no, but Jason, but you, but you are, you're in so much pain that I feel like you, you've forgotten about other options. I mean, the thing that, the thing that I would do, honestly, Jason is someone's grabbing me in the nuts and I'm grabbing them in the nuts. I would just let go of those other, of those nuts. Why? Okay. In the hopes that they would let go. No, Jun, you can't give up. Like they were in a suicide pact. It's a standoff. It's a standoff. If you let go, you're admitting weakness. Well, I mean, like, I don't know. They both look like they weren't so much pain. I think what I didn't like about it was it felt like they were going to do it until something popped. And that to me
Starting point is 00:21:04 is what, like this movie, there's a lot of pops and there's a lot of splurts. And I was like, are we starting there? Because they really were like twist. Like it's like, it was like, they were winding it up. It was like, it was like a grab. You know, they were, they were, they were locked on. It was as if, you know, like the Vulcan nerve pinch or it was as if it's a, it seemed as if they both knew an actual move in fights. That was this thing that I've never seen before. The way they, like during that fight, they also do a bunch of like, WWE style, like, like wrestling moves that are like fake fight moves. So I was like, maybe this is akin to those wrestling moves that are like fake grabs that, that then they just were like, oh, this will be
Starting point is 00:21:54 good. They'll, it'll be a standoff of, of, of crotch grab. And I, and I, I was, I will say, I was compelled by it. It was fascinating. And there's so much, this is the thing about the movie. There's so much that's so strange. And I'm granted, I did not watch a lot of the scenes, as Paul said. I can't do that gore. I don't want to see it. It's not for me, but I, see, I'm turning my head on the croc, the, the, the crotch grab is where I'm like, I was surprised actually there, because I was looking to Paul, I watched many of the scenes just watching Paul watch them. And you were more horrified than I've ever seen you. Yeah, because you, you were pretty shocked and had trouble watching a couple of those really
Starting point is 00:22:38 gory scenes. I did. And I'll tell you why. It was too long. And the, the, the gory scene that I had trouble with was the autopsy scene. Like I didn't like, I didn't like going into the head. I didn't like the head being open like that. I didn't like, well, here's what, here's what I didn't like about it. Cause I want to go, I want to back up a full step. That was not an autopsy scene because an autopsy is done on a corpse. Paul Walker is alive when they cut his head off. He remember, he keeps waking up and being like, whatever, I can't remember what forgive me. Denise Richard's name is Oh, Tammy. And he says, Tammy, Tammy. And then they give him a shot. They give him a shot. He passes out. Then he wakes up again. And he's like, huh, where am I? And then the, the woman,
Starting point is 00:23:28 the sidekick to the mad scientist, the woman who is like his, like, um, his muscle, I think, just punches Paul Walker back into unconsciousness. They start to drill into his head. He wakes up again. She punches him again. And then they drill with a hit with like a, with a drill from home. They drill his head off. He is alive. It's not an autopsy. Yeah. And the brain, well, cause the brain needs to be alive. And there's, oh, that scene, that scene being alive though. So he doesn't, he's not able to speak as a dinosaur. But then there's some sort of at, at this point in time, there's a computer program that is able to get his voice at the end of the movie, spoiler alert, because Denise Richards at the very end after the dinosaurs
Starting point is 00:24:21 been killed is able to take his brain and attach it to a video camera, a video camera. That's a video. Okay. So a video camera that's attached to the brain can output that's in her room. That's just in a bowl. I thought it was in like Tupperware. You might have been in like a lab. It is a teenager's bedroom. And like, there's no top to that bowl. It's just out in the air. Yeah. And I guess what I'm really worried about in that scene. And again, we're jumping all over and we're hitting all the big beats. But when that brain ejaculates, like the explosion that goes on there, it was pretty like that also upset me like that. Like I felt like, is that like, is that, does that happen all the time?
Starting point is 00:25:14 Does she make his brain explode like that all the time? Because it doesn't seem good. Well, it, um, it sparks. It sparks stuff. Like what's when he comes while she's doing a sexy strip tease, again, upstairs in her teenage bedroom while her parents are downstairs. But her parents seem to know that this is going on. Yes. The brain sparks and is like fits, fits, fits, but it's in water. So, so doesn't that seem to say like, is the brain in danger of electrocuting itself? Like I'm, I'm also concerned who let her be in charge of. Well, I guess, I guess we can't let the brain go back to drunk guardian. I mean, he can't, he can't control that. He can't control the brain. I mean, Uncle Bob had some issues.
Starting point is 00:26:02 I, I mean, there, there's so much here. I want to almost, if you would let me go back to the very beginning when we open up on a dance scene to a song that I have the lyrics. Oh my God, I need to talk about this song. Averill Halley. Obviously she picked this movie, but what she did was a real work, such a, such a favor, which is she wrote down all the lyrics to the song, Dinosaur Man. So I have them. We can kind of go through there, but as we're talking through it, maybe we can just play the clip of Denise Richards dancing in this opening here, where she is. This is clip 11. I do want to say that my first note was that I thought this song was awesome. And I was like, it made me really excited for this movie. How awesome this song is.
Starting point is 00:26:53 Sorry, go ahead. Well, yeah. So here it is. We'll just see. All right. And I have more of the lyrics here. It's like, you know, king of the jungle coming after you. I'm a T-rex in the prowl, a reptile on the move. You better watch your step. I'm coming after you. Dinosaur music inside my brain. Sometimes I feel like I'm going insane. I feel the rumble. I feel the roar. Dance to the music of the dinosaur. And I'm going to ask you this. Was that music diagetic? Were they dancing to that song or was that song scoring their dancing? Okay. No, I think that I don't think it was diagetic. My question is, what is this? What is this activity? Like, are they cheerleaders? Are they on a dance team? Are they? What are they preparing
Starting point is 00:28:03 for? And when, when did I actually know that routine? So no, they are not part of a dance squad. This is a, an after school club for women whose boyfriends will eventually be put inside a computer. And this is for them to practice their striptease so they can keep a healthy relationship until they find a proper body. So all that, like it's kind of like a club or something like that. My assumption was that this was cheer practice because they seem to be in high school and Paul Walker seems to be wearing football clothes when they have their interaction directly after this. You know, like they, they seem to be all in high school and Billy and the Warriors seem to be in their forties.
Starting point is 00:28:54 There is a woman I'm going to need to talk about for roughly three hours. And that's Billy's, like the woman who has the hots for Billy on his side of the tracks. The two girls in the team. Specifically the blonde woman. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. I, from the moment she came on screen, I could not take my eyes off of her. Her performance was deranged. Yes. She's the most interesting character in the movie. I could not take my eyes off of her. She was going for it on a level. I learned things. I said to myself, June, don't hold back. When they are beating the shit out of Billy with baseball bats and so forth, she's laughing so hard that you are like, now what is her? Also, also, also she and her friend are in a jeep with no doors and no top.
Starting point is 00:29:53 And they drive into a big cat sanctuary where they all get out of their cars. They're all like, they drive into it. They don't like toss them over a fence. Like they go exactly into the plane. They don't dump them into a lion enclosure. They all drive like a mile into a wildlife big cat sanctuary. They all get out of their cars. They beat the shit out of them. They leave them behind. Then he gets eaten by a lion. How many times have they done this? Because they do it with such ease, and it feels like they all are on the same page. It wasn't like, I got a plan. That's kind of the weird thing about this town is that the police are also not that impressed with what's going on. Not that surprised, honestly.
Starting point is 00:30:37 And even looking at those bodies and the morgue, all these young people in the prime of their lives dead. We've got Tammy and the T-Rex going on, and that's a story, but trust and believe like some other major things are happening in this town. This is a small town. It's like Twin Peaks, basically, because everything seems like young people happy, having parties, small town cops, kind of eating while they investigate whatever crimes, and then something insane happens. Right? Yes. Because when they come upon the massacre at the party, that the T-Rex has come, he's killed all of Billy's gang. He's bitten the leg off the blonde girl that you love, June. He's trampled the car, squishing the guys underneath it. Great death.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Like great deaths, great gore, great super fun, and these guys are like, come over here. You're not going to believe this. They're poking things with a stick and being like, is that a nose? One hop is itching his ass. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and I guess all this stuff goes to show you like every actor made a choice, and even though they weren't necessarily all on the same page, every choice was right. It's a weird way of saying it because I feel like there are performances that are so oddly grounded. I think Denise Richards makes this whole movie work. She never winks at the audience once. Like her and her best friend, they're like down the middle straight men to this entire thing, and it's wonderful. I was like, wow.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Well, she does do that one thing that drives me insane, and we talked about it last night, Paul. She kind of, everything is kind of laughed through, and she kind of laughed through all of her scenes. Always a laugh, and it drives me bonkers, but she is going for, I mean, everybody in the movie is, Paul Walker included, like they are all delivering. Yes, but they are trying their hardest to be in 10 things I hate about you, or she's all that, or some sort of teen comedy. They seem to be giving it their all to be in a teen comedy, but the movie is like, Jake, hey, you're in an insane movie. So they have to keep rationalizing it or normalizing by their performances that insane things are happening to your point exactly when they have to go to the morgue to find a new body,
Starting point is 00:33:25 to put the brain in. She's having so much fun, like looking at, like it's as if they're body shopping. Well, I was going to say, it's like a dress-up montage in an 80s comedy, but with dead bodies, like in a morgue, and it's like, wait, wait, and then when you have to like, like, should I wear this or should I wear this or should I wear this? But there's something like so realistic about it, because the bodies are never at the same height as the two of them. They're always like, they're always a little bit lower. They're lugging them. They're having trouble moving like 90 pounds of dead flesh. I have to interrupt the show for a second. Yeah. I'm just sitting here watching us and you're set up and the way you look is so different
Starting point is 00:34:16 from the way Jason and I look on screen. Right. Okay. Okay. So we're all just accepting that. Well, there's a reason for that that is technical. Why does Paul look like he's at a studio somewhere? Paul has a, Paul is now using a better camera than you and I. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, no, no big deal. He texted me beforehand and said, check this out. I'm going to make you guys look like shit. Okay. And then- I would have loved to heads up. June, June, do you not know that this is in place? Ollie's, he has remote lights set up in your home. I feel a lot right now. The last time we did this show, he didn't have all that. The last time we did a live show. All I'm going to say to you,
Starting point is 00:35:02 June is- That's true. Like Jason, you and I look like shit. Dog shit. We look like dog shit. We literally look like- And forgive me, you are so beautiful and I love you, but we look like literal dog shit. You might as well- You look horrible and I do too. Dog shit. Wow. Right? Wow. Wow. You know what? We're going to have to talk about this offline because- It's fine. Let's move on with the show. It's just like, we've got to talk about it. This is crazy. Be how we move forward. And if people want to send us cameras so that we can look better, they need to do so. Okay, because Jason, I know where Paul is in our home, by the way, and it looks like you're in like a cool New York City like underground comedy club,
Starting point is 00:35:50 like recording live from this- Because, yeah, because my Twitch shows and stuff like that. But again, I can change the color of the lights. What do you want? You know what? For you? For you, sweetheart? I'll give you whatever color you want. What do you want, sweetheart? I don't like the way he's calling you sweetheart. I don't like that at all. Sweetheart, tell me what lights you like, babe. I'll give you whatever color you want. No, you look great. I'm happy for you. Let's talk about the opening of this movie because I don't want to get even too far away from this. Very rarely do you see a film where every character name is put in the beginning? It was like the opening of Gilgans
Starting point is 00:36:29 Island here in the beginning of this movie. Every character has a name. Did you guys both see the part where it says Tanny? I mean, everyone, I don't know if everyone sees Tanny, but yeah, it is boldly front and center Tanny. Denise Richards is Tanny. What do you think that's about? How does that make it through every iteration of this movie getting made, released, et cetera? Apparently, according to the limited research that I have from Nate Kiley, who did an amazing job, that the person who did all the titling didn't watch the film and misheard Tanny as Tanny, but Tanny is a name. Tanny is not. Neither is a name you said at the beginning of the show, Tanny. Although I guess Tanny
Starting point is 00:37:27 Cattain was a person, so Tanny is maybe a name. Maybe Tanny? I'm not sure. It's a weird that it made it through. I can see a typo happening, but I guess maybe this is such a low-budget thing. They're like, well, it's in there now. We can't go back. I mean, low-budget Jason, this is a $1 million movie. I mean, $1 million. It's not super low-budget. Is there a world in which, because it went by pretty quickly. Now, full disclaimer, I did have an edible at the beginning of the movie. Everything I say has to be sort of seen through that lens, but I thought, oh, maybe that font is just one of those fonts where the ends look like M's and you can't read them. Oh, maybe. No, no, no. I can see that.
Starting point is 00:38:18 No, it is Tanny. That is definitely Tanny. As everyone in the Discord, everybody who tweeted at me has shown me, it is Tanny. It is front and center. This movie is Tanny and the T-Rex, even though it's Tanny and the T-Rex. Okay, wait a second. Can I ask you a question? Of course. Yeah. Because I saw it when it was, when the typo was, does the typo occur numerous times or just once? No, just in the opening sequence. No, well, the typo is Tanny and the T-Rex. The movie as released is Tanny and the T-Rex. At the opening title, when you see Denise Richards, it says Tanny. And then in the final credits, it says Tanny. Oh, okay. See, okay. That's what I missed. I only saw it once when it was Denise Richards as Tanny or something, when it was
Starting point is 00:39:07 something like that. Yeah. I didn't realize that it said Tanny and the T-Rex. Like, I didn't see the title. Oh, yeah. The title card is Tanny. Okay, wow. And I think there might be one that is a fixed version of it. But when Vinegar Syndrome restored the gore cut, they restored it to its epic beauty, the way it was meant to be. So I think the PG-13 version might be Tanny and the T-Rex on the title. Oh, so you think they were, they went back to Tanny. Oh, they definitely did. Oh, okay. I get it. Yeah. So in 2017, a 35 millimeter print of an alternate pre-censorship cut of the film was discovered under the title Tanny and the Teenage T-Rex. And that is a version that has six minutes more of gore because they had to cut all of it out very clumsily to get a PG-13
Starting point is 00:39:56 rating. Yeah. And it only appeared on VHS once in 1994. And so they at Vinegar Syndrome restored the film to a 4K resolution and, yeah, and got it out there last year, right before the pandemic. Thank God. Yeah. Thank God we got this in 4K. This movie, by the way, I think it falls into a category of a gnome named Norm, right? Theodore Rex, which is... Oh, it's so much better than gnome named Norm. Oh, 100%. But I'm just talking about like the idea of, you know, weird creature, real world, right? Yeah, totally agree. Mac and me. And I was looking at it as like this director, by the way, has directed two, how did this get made movies? He directed Mac and me and Mannequin on the move. He directed, yeah. So this guy is often... So his specialty is one of the main characters
Starting point is 00:40:51 is a puppet or something, you know? Yes. An inanimate object comes to life, sometimes like with Mac and me, that is an inanimate object that comes to life. And then Mannequin is truly an inanimate object that comes to life. I mean, we still haven't gotten to the bottom of where the butt starts. I mean, we still... And this movie didn't help us. Never got to it. No. We're even further away from understanding where the butt starts. That's the thing is, the final episode of how did this get made will solve the problem where does the butt start? By the way, we did have somebody... We did have somebody in the chat solve one of our problems. This is someone talking about how dinosaurs could actually speak. So this is in 1976, Smith, I don't know who the Smith is,
Starting point is 00:41:34 conducted groundbreaking research demonstrating that dinosaurs and humans have similar articulatory systems, assuming equivalents of cognition and should express mirrored speech outputs. So that means that dinosaurs, if they had the means could speak. But again, I would say that's useless information because this is not a dinosaur. This is a animatronic. Okay, so remember we see the scene where they, as we were discussing earlier, they use household jigsaws and whatever to perform surgery and remove the living brain out of beautiful young Paul Walker. They hook it up to the animatronic dinosaur and they poke around to see if they can get it to move. And then the doctor says, tomorrow I'm going to put the brain in the dinosaur and it's going to be all set.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Can I just stop you for one second, Jason? Yeah, go ahead. Because that scene really upset me. There's a couple things that upset me in this movie. Yeah. And when they made him get an erection and they started puppeteering his erection, I was like, there are things that really got me on a humane level. And I know it's a movie, but I was like, oh, it just felt, it felt cruel to be giving this boy an erection. Like a Frankenstein story is about corpses being brought back to life, right? Like they steal corpses, they're grave robbers, whatever. This is a living boy. This is a young man who they just wantonly, like they think he's, at first they think he's in a coma and then he wakes up repeatedly. They kill him by sawing his head off. Then, then the two henchmen are eating
Starting point is 00:43:26 pizza with his skull in between them and are tossing the crusts in his skull like it's a bowl. When they went in his head and I think that other thing that got me, like the other side of his head looks so insane. And then when you saw the dinosaur seeing, they're putting pizza crust in my skull. It was like, I felt for the dinosaur more in that moment than ever before. And that young doctor, was he a young doctor? Can you look like he could have been 12 to me, the doctor? Oh, the other one. Oh, with the glasses? Yeah. There were some shots of him. He looked very like a small child. Yeah. He looked, he had like a Toby Jones vibe to me. Like, you could have put him, or something like that. You could have put him also like, he also reminded
Starting point is 00:44:16 me of the Nazi who's hunting after the medallion in Indiana Jones. Oh, yes. Yes, he had that kind of a yes. Like, he has that kind of a vibe. He's like the, he wants there to be, he wants the computer to be controlled by his computer program, not by this brain. Yeah. This human brain is dumb and that's why he's taunting. He taunts the dinosaur like, you fucking idiot. You're an idiot. Fuck you. And he never cleans the blood off him. He is soaked and caked in blood and he's like, never wipes his face, eating pizza covered in blood, staples his head back on. Oh, God. The other thing that drives me crazy is during the entirety of the surgery, all of it, the sign into the head, the blood is everywhere. It's very gory. Blood is everywhere. He's installing the thing. The
Starting point is 00:45:07 doctor, the mad scientist doctor has a mask as we all know now. We understand we wear masks and surgeons wear mask, blah, blah, blah. But the mask is, he's doing the thing where he has the mask only on his chin, the whole, it's pulled down so that it's not covering his mouth and at all. It's just, he's wearing, why have him wear a mask at all then? If it's only on his chin. I asked this question of many people I've seen through this pandemic. Why wear a mask at all? What's the point? You would think that he would have some self-preservation there, simply not to get the blood in his mouth. That seems to be the big thing. Can I ask you? I want to ask a question, Paul, and I hope this is a safe space to do so. But there was one moment in the movie where those
Starting point is 00:45:50 two kind of lecherous cops were watching Denise Richards walk away and they said, they're trying to figure out where Michael, the T-Rex is. And one of them says, I know she's been with him. And the other one says, how do you know? And he says, I can tell by the way she's walking. Yes, I wrote that down as well. Well, I'm scared to know. They're intimating, they're intimating that she and the T-Rex had had sex. And what my question was, because they also wake up post-coitaly cuddling, my question was, have they been hooking up? Have Tammy and the T-Rex been hooking up? Well, then it goes back to the question of, and I had a question about this, and I think it's all going to tie together, when they are in the morgue and they are looking at
Starting point is 00:46:43 the bodies, her friend pulls down the sheets and she looks and she's like, ooh, not that one. But it seems like her friend is like, no, no, that's a good dick. And she's like, no, no, that's not a good dick. And I couldn't quite understand, like, my thought is, the friend is like, it's a big dick. And she's like, I don't like, it's too big. No, well, that's not what happened. Okay, no. Byron's trying to move merch. He's trying to get a body. Okay. Byron doesn't work for the morgue. No, he's like, let's go. Like this one, that one, who cares? I got bodies. I got to move these bodies. We got two, we got a two for one right now. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. He's even offering up women. He's like, what do you think? Absolutely. So he's a good looking guy. And then
Starting point is 00:47:32 he pulls the sheet down. I didn't read that as he was saying, like, looks great. I think he was just sort of showing her and her reaction was it was too small a dick. Okay. That's what I thought too, because that guy was also too short. How did she know how short he was? Because they bring him and hold him in front of the window. Oh, they bring that guy out? I think so. Yeah, he's the first man. I don't know. Here's another question. Like, is the T-Rex male? The T-Rex? Okay. Okay. Well, it's a robot. Fascinating question because it's a robot. So did they build the robot to be anatomically correct? Well, do dinosaurs have dicks? I don't think that dinosaurs have, we know he has functioning hands, right? Did you just say dinosaurs don't have dicks? Well, I was like, well, I was just saying
Starting point is 00:48:31 weird. I've really seen Jurassic Park. Yeah. That's the T-shirt. Dinosaurs don't have dicks. I asked, I asked, do dinosaurs, because maybe it's like an, maybe it's like an innie belly button that comes, I don't know. Do dinosaurs dream of electric dicks? I mean, I'm sure. I mean, can you both answer that dinosaurs have dicks? I can't answer that actually. Here's, I'm willing to say, yes, dinosaurs have dicks for the, for the, for procreation. Some dinosaurs have dicks. So you're saying that you're saying that Jurassic Park is whitewashing dinosaur culture by not having like dicks out. Like they're like, like Bruce Banner when he transforms into the whole. Well, I don't know if they're whitewashing it because I think they're dickwashing it. I think
Starting point is 00:49:18 there's, I think those dicks are washed. Here's what the chat is saying. The chat is saying at least the oldest dinosaurs most likely had penises of some form, although the shape and size unknown. It does seem like dinosaurs mostly reproduced through mounting similar to animals today, but they were likely some exceptions due to defenses such as spikes or bony plates. That's what I'm saying. Like let's get to the bottom of this thing. I don't know what they're doing. I don't know. I don't know either. I mean they laid eggs. So I don't know. Yeah. Birds don't have penises and dinosaurs are basically birds. Male birds and crocodiles have a penis. But dinosaurs are not birds. Dinosaurs are. Some dinosaurs are birds, Jason.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Some dinosaurs are, of course, but some dinosaurs. Not all dinosaurs. Male birds and crocodiles have a penis that emerges from the cloakla to deliver sperm. I don't like that word. I believe it's cloaca. Cloaca. Got it. Dinosaur sex must have followed an insert tab A into slot B. This is like the shape of the shape of what was the shape of water? Yeah. Yeah. Well, go back to what you said, June. I think what they're saying is what they're intimating the cops is that she is walking funny because she just had a night of hardcore fucking with a with a with a 12 foot tyrannosaurus.
Starting point is 00:50:47 And was she walking funny though? Was she walking funny? I don't think so. I don't think so. I feel like there are some lines that might have been improvised. Look, there's no secret of this movie. They had two weeks to write the film and the director is very open to saying that we really just ask people on the day, is there anything better we can say or do in this movie? And people just came up with their own stuff and that's what kind of made it in. Because basically, yeah. Why? Why not just have Paul Walker's character die? Right? Sure. He dies. And the mad scientist is like, I can keep him alive in some way, you know, so that it is a
Starting point is 00:51:26 rescuing from death rather than maliciously killing him in order to get his brain. This is a teen like romp. Why not just have him be killed? And here's the weird thing too. Like I here's another version of the movie. I think I would have preferred. So Paul Walker is like a very kind of typical teenage jock, hormonal, horny, athletic and then becomes a T-Rex. What I wanted to see it like he can stand up for himself. Listen, Billy's a maniac and an abusive terrible person. But Billy can not Billy. Sorry, Michael can hold his own and seems like a popular guy. And he also seems like he's getting Denise Richards. A better movie to me would have been making Michael a nerdy, kind of shy, you know, bookworm who then becomes a fucking T-Rex.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Yes, like who gets beaten up instead of instead of being able to hold his own with Billy, you know, they kind of they're at a standoff when they have the the nut grab. Instead of that, why not have Billy kick his ass? He gets, you know, down in the dirt like he is thoroughly dismissed. But then his he turns into the dinosaur and can get revenge. It seems like right. Yeah, it doesn't make it like narratively narratively. This movie is needlessly complicated for the kind of movie it is. But at the same time, I have no questions. Like at the same time, I agree. Listen, you know, the other the other movie I would have liked to have seen out of this movie was a movie about Byron the friend. Yes, his dad. His dad. I was like, I want to know what's
Starting point is 00:53:24 gone on here. To your point earlier, June, about when the cops say she's walking funny and the presumption that they had sex, when Byron shows up to the barn where they are, he comes in and he says, are you decent? Right? He says, are you decent in there? Which is again, something you say when you presume people might be naked in there from doing. Yeah. Well, I say that every time I go into a barn for multiple purposes, like we know that that's where people, you know, like horses might be getting it on cows, pigs. So I always I always knock and say, are you decent? So what would it take for a horse to be decent and and or not decent? That penis would be in or out like it's an ear and outie. Like they can shoot out. Wait, horse penises are in or out?
Starting point is 00:54:15 We got to do a download on how penises work. No, no, no, no, no. They like they shoot out. There's a thing that I had horses growing up. They tell you this, I saw our dogs penis the other day out and I never want to see that again. No, no, no. It was the first time I've seen it and we can move on. But I will say this talking about uncomfortable things. I turned to June last night and I said, I feel like this is the first time I've watched the movie and felt old because when I watched Denise Richards and Paul Walker kiss, it felt like too much for me. I was like, oh, these are too young. I don't want to see like I shouldn't be looking at like 12 year olds kissing or 14 year olds or whatever. Well, that's that's how I felt when she was doing the
Starting point is 00:55:02 strip tease at the end. I was like, the weird juxtaposition of the fact that she drives home says hey to her parents. Everything's great. She goes upstairs. She turns on the camera and then it's like she's doing a strip tease for a brain in a bowl in her childhood bedroom. And I was like, now what the fuck is going on? This is absolutely wild. What this like again, the movie makes choices that are so bizarrely left field in what would normally be like they would have in the normal version of this movie, they would have found a body to put his head in and at the end of the his brain in and at the end of the movie, she is now on a date with the new person that contains his brain and they get to be together. Yeah. Well, I mean, and there's one there's so many things I
Starting point is 00:55:56 want to break down. I also want to just talk about the the way that this boy, the boyfriend runs the town. This boy and his friends just storm the like do a home invasion on Tammy's family. And they're like, what? Nothing is scarier to me than like a group of teens running in. Yeah. And the mom is like, should we call the police and the dad is like, no, I can handle this. And like, no, you can't. 30 members of a gang. Sir, you cannot handle it. Like Mark's brother's night at the opera level, like they're all and by the way, there is a lot of delay because they all come running up the stairs. I'm like, were they having a hard time finding the bedroom? Because Paul Walker and her have a whole dialogue scene before he leaves. And then Paul Walker is
Starting point is 00:56:40 kind of dumb too, because he doesn't just like run out of there. He kind of is hanging. Like it's almost like he's hanging out in the driveway. Like, you know, like he's and then he like then he gets caught. Of course he does. Too silly. It's got away really heavily on Denise Richards, because she really she tries to be like, you shouldn't you shouldn't do I'm dangerous, Billy's going to be after you. And then it like comes true, like she it like he comes over and it leads to his death, the funeral. We haven't talked about the funeral. Also, the T-Rex moves around so freely during daylight hours and nobody ever sees it. There in the suburban neighborhood, the T-Rex walks up to her window of her house, second floor window. She passes out. The T-Rex
Starting point is 00:57:28 takes her and walks away with her. Nobody reports it. All the people at the funeral and the T-Rex is she keeps looking over and being like, well, there's the T-Rex. Nobody else sees it. It's almost like this movie is a woman, a woman who in the morning of her boyfriend, she feels so guilty that she got this boy killed, that she manifests an imaginary drop dead Fred style T-Rex who's going to fix everything. At the end of the movie, if it was revealed that she did all the murdering herself, imagining herself to be the T-Rex, like I'm talking like a fight club reveal. Yeah, it's revealed that she's been the T-Rex the whole time that and she's just been getting vengeance on the people who killed Michael. Better movie, better movie. By the way, I also want to say that
Starting point is 00:58:18 people in this town, something has happened to all of them because when Billy comes in and goes a dinosaur dinosaur, a dinosaur's jaw clamps onto either side of his head and his friends go, oh, he's just joking around. Wait, what? And then he's lifted out of fire. Are they in a tent? You know what? I think a lot, I think a lot of people in this town, when they first see the dinosaur assume that it's, I got the sense that people are used to seeing dinosaurs there as like attractions. Like they're used to seeing giant dinosaur displays. Okay, okay. So because so many people just like see it and don't register right away that this is a dinosaur. They think it's like a statue, like a statue or something. I mean, by the way, it is like when we first see it
Starting point is 00:59:13 and it's shot in this beauty shot, it is on a pedestal. And in the, in the theory of this movie, the pedestal would always be attached to the feet because it's not. They had to somehow get it off, I guess. But yeah, I guess I don't know. I don't know. I don't understand. I don't, there's so much I don't understand. But yet to you, to exactly your point, I was never confused. But I was always like, huh, like, why can't, why doesn't anybody else know, like shouldn't the, in other words, shouldn't the police, because the police keep hearing reports of a dinosaur for like from the party goers, you know, Byron tells his dad there was a dinosaur, like people are being told there's a dinosaur. Why isn't the police being flooded with phone calls from people who are like, I just
Starting point is 01:00:05 saw a dinosaur walking down the street abducted a girl out of her home. Like there's a, there's a dinosaur. They seem to be, they spend so much time being like, come on with this dinosaur talk. This is nonsense. By the way, they're finding bodies mutilated, like their bodies, like they're finding everywhere. Right. That's what I'm saying. Even if they didn't know about a dinosaur, there still should be some level of panic about a serial killer, a wild animal, like something is creating havoc in this town. And the police are treating it so blasé, even if, even let's go, let's say all of this death and destruction was not being caused by a dinosaur, but was instead just being caused by an individual. And they still treated it this blasé. I would be like,
Starting point is 01:00:50 what's, what's happening? Even still, they're just cracking jokes, hanging out, you know. Yeah. Oh, I guess we look at, oh, come over here. We gotta check this out and poking it with a stick. Is that a, what is that? Is that his nose? It is like, this is fucking nuts. I will say that, I mean, they are, again, this town has seen a lot of stuff. We know that Denise Richards, the sequel that I want to see is Denise Richards going from town to town, from morgue to morgue. When she says a ski team was killed, I got to go check out that body. Like this is a town that is used to this kind of level of death. We don't know why. By the way though, Paul, that's what's interesting about the ending of the movie is you get the sense that the next movie is about how,
Starting point is 01:01:41 and this I was honestly like fascinated by, that nobody physically was good enough for her. So she was going to force this dude to stay as a brain in a bowl until he found the rest of his life because it's so selfish, because no one was good enough and no one looked good enough to her. That is like, that's crazy. My question is, my question is, and this is, I think for you, June, especially, like, is there a world in which Denise Richards is on episodes of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills or whatever and her husband is a brain in a jar? Okay. Her husband actually is a brain in a jar. I'm not saying that is her husband is a brain in a jar. Her husband is up to some weird, like her husband, what is he like? He's got some weird,
Starting point is 01:02:38 like he's into some weird body science. And he's like convinced the FBI is following him and he does like this weird Malibu... He's like a Dr. Frankenstein, right? Well, he's not a Dr. Frankenstein, but he's like... I didn't realize I opened up a real can of worms. You have. He's like a wellness expert who's developed a technology where you get like some sort of electric waves. There's a machine that you hook up to and he considers himself a real healer and is also convinced that because his technology is so good and cancer curing, that like Big Pharma and the powers that be are following them. He talks about it on the show. So he's like he has a persona. I'm dead serious. If someone who like was a brain in a bowl and was transferred to his body, but in
Starting point is 01:03:32 that transfer... So you think this is the body she chose? It's possible. I'm saying it's possible. We should fingerprint this guy and see if he died skiing in the early night. I'm gonna say he's all about electrical impulses. He is, but you get the feeling like when that transfer happened that like Paul Walker was hooked up, but there was a moment where there wasn't any electricity. Like there's a moment where he just, you just sort of have to transfer over and that some damage was caused. Okay. All right. Okay. I can see that. I want to say three words and just get your reactions to him. I'm good, right? Wait, what is it? When that guy is having sex with the girl and he keeps on yelling, I'm good, right? I'm good, right? I'm good, right? I was like, that was one of the most
Starting point is 01:04:21 shocking and disturbing. I was like, what is, one of the best choices, one of the best life. You know what? It was a totally of a character. Yes. It totally explains why he's such a bully because he's so insecure. It was, it was the best piece of writing. That film should be nominated on that line alone. Like it was, I'm good, right? I'm good, right? It was so, I've never seen that in any movie. I've never, it was so revealing. It was so honest. It was so crazy. It was a lot. The other scene that was very kind of emotionally revealing, much like that one was, was when the T-Rex watches his own funeral and cries tears down his T-Rex face. Like, like water leaking out down the rubber T-Rex face. How? Let me ask you this. It's an animatronic
Starting point is 01:05:12 T-Rex. Yeah, where are those tears coming from? Where is that? What liquid is that? Did they install tear ducts in the T-Rex? Like how does that work? The T-Rex also laughs at jokes, looks at itself in a mirror, uses a handheld mirror to look at it. Like when he, when he kills the, the little scientist and the pizza guy runs away and blah, blah, he picks up a mirror and looks at himself to be like, what am I? Like, what am I? I am a T-Rex. Let's check it out. And then he uses, then he uses a pay phone. It is the, the, the, the, the, the, the. And then leaves the roar. He dusts Byron's shoulders off. Like he has such easy, easy, manipulatable hand, dexterity. Thank you. That's exactly what I was looking for. Um, it's very strange. Sorry. That's, I just
Starting point is 01:06:01 noticed I wrote a bunch of those things. I, I want to say this and I want to get to the audience questions. And I know we're we're all over the place, but I want to say this, I love Terry Kaiser. Terry Kaiser is the main bad guy. Terry Kaiser is Bernie really from Weekend at Bernie's. Yeah, he is, you know, he, no, not, uh, wait, he's Dr. Gunther. That's Bernie from Weekend at Bernie's. Oh, the doctor, the mad doctor, the mad scientist. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Yeah. Junie, you taking that in? That's Bernie. Yes. And I'm going to tell you this. Okay. I'm going to go on the record right now and say something that I've never said publicly. Oh my God, I'm scared. Consider it. Consider it. Okay. That performance of
Starting point is 01:06:43 Bernie is one of the most realized physical comedy performances of all time. Like you don't think he's doing anything. The reason why Weekend at Bernie's is a success is because of Terry fucking Kaiser, that guy. Wow. Watch that movie. It is Charlie Chaplin level. Yeah, I hear you, Paul. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like he's a dead body for an entire movie. Yes. It is wild and wonderful. Terry Kaiser, and he brings an energy to this thing, but I was going to ask you both, do you know what his plan was? Because I have it. I wanted to see if we could guess it first. Yeah. I'm curious what you thought, Jason, that there was a moment where I was like, oh, I actually think I agree with what he's
Starting point is 01:07:27 trying to do. Or I feel like it was more generous than I expected. So I think he's trying to sell and patent this procedure so that when people die, they can stay alive by getting their brains into other bodies. But the way he described it at one point, and I think it was watching the funeral, it seemed to be that he was actually trying to provide a service so people didn't have to lose loved ones or pets. I agree. I agree. That's what it seemed to me as well. He was doing, he was offering, this was a breakthrough in conquering death, conquering death. I think you're right at the funeral scene, he says, people won't have to do this anymore. We won't have to put people in the ground. People won't have
Starting point is 01:08:25 to die. We can just transfer their consciousness, essentially. But what I couldn't figure out is why is he putting people's consciousness or brains or whatever into animatronic dinosaurs? Why not put it into a human body? Why not put it into another human body? Why is it a, or a humanoid robot? Why is it a dinosaur? It seems like getting an animatronic dinosaur would be the hardest thing to get. Why not Frankenstein this? Why not put it into a Frankenstein? I guess the idea is, ultimately, because this director was given an opportunity to rent an animatronic dinosaur for two weeks before it had to go to Thailand to be in an amusement park. That's probably the reason why. Did they reverse engineer the movie from that?
Starting point is 01:09:24 Oh, yeah, Jason, they did. This is this whole movie. All right, so writer-director Stuart Roffel said in an interview, the idea for this film only happened because they had access to a full-sized T-Rex animatronic. A guy came to him who owned theaters in South America and said he had had T-Rex that he was going to a park in Texas. The eyes worked, the arms moved, the head moved. And Stuart said, I want to make a movie. And they go, well, what's the story? And he's like, I don't know. But we need to start filming it in two weeks. So let's go. And they wrote a story and they started shooting it in two weeks. And that was how they got this movie up and running was just basically like, use this before it
Starting point is 01:10:04 goes to Texas. Well, then here's, okay, then I have to, I have an update. Then well done. Yeah. Like if that's, if that's the case, then this is way better than it has any business being. By the way, the dinosaur even looks good in certain moments. Like there's moments or like this. In certain moments. I mean, listen, if I know there's a T-Rex, I want to see it like running and I want to see it being more of a T-Rex. And I thought there were limitations. The gut rips were pretty great. And we never saw that in Jurassic Park. People just getting their, their guts out. I loved that shot where he tears the guy and then it, it frames down and he's holding his guts and intestines. I loved that. That stuff was funny. Like they
Starting point is 01:10:49 played it for good. The movie is funny. They played it for good. Here's what I'll say. The movie is, I think, and correct me if you guys think differently. I felt like the movie understood its campiness and understood that they were, and in a way that actually benefited the movie, this was, if I'm not being clear, this was a wildly enjoyable watch. You know what I mean? Like I really enjoyed it. But I think what I really appreciate, and I'll go back to like Velocipaster, is the directing of it. Here's another kind of my big bold statement. The directing of it was actually really like capable because by keeping like Denise Richards grounded, it actually like, she's not like winking at the, like there, a lot of people
Starting point is 01:11:35 are not winking at the audience. They may be doing bold, big performances, but like people are buying into these like weird giant characters and it kind of works. It like, I don't know what it is about it. Like, well, when Billy shows up, when Billy shows up to Denise Richards' house, Tammy's house, the scene we talked about earlier with like, and they do a home invasion, the parents look out the window and are like, oh, it's Billy again. And it's like, okay, that works in a movie in which you're the parents of a teenage daughter whose ex-boyfriend is kind of hassling her, right? But what then happens is they are the victims of a 30-person home invasion. And that's where this movie is like, wait a second, what? Because
Starting point is 01:12:19 they should be like, oh no, something insane is happening, but they're treating it as if it is the regular movie version of, oh, Billy is, you know, is an asshole. Instead of Billy is an insane character. He says on the phone, and June pointed this out to me, he's in a gang, a gang. Like they are like, they underscore, like he's in a gang, gang. Like this is a real gang. He went to prison. But there is something really interesting about this guy, Billy, the guy who plays Billy. I listened to an interview with him and he was like, yeah, I looked through the script and I was like, this is great. It's a big lead part. And I was excited to be there and went
Starting point is 01:12:55 on. Like when he talks about the movie, there was no like sense of, yeah, it was a big campy dumb movie. It was sort of like, yeah, this is great. Awesome, like a lead role, got some great moments in here, got to work with great actors. And like he talks about like... Those people working on anything are excited and are assumed that it's going to be good. Like I'm talking about this interview happened like a year ago. Okay. Okay. I'm not saying that like he's, I'm just saying that like there is a sense where I guess what I'm thinking of is I think the director knew it was campy, but I don't know if the actors
Starting point is 01:13:30 quite understood because I don't even know how much they were on set with the actual T-Rex. Right. So they may have been like, I'm in a high school movie and then they're shooting all these T-Rex scenes. So you know what I'm saying? So I think there was a weird way like of keeping people separate. So you created this energy that you got like a 10 things I hate about you with a GNOME named GNORM. I can't speak. I mean, it is this, this was, this was a bizarre movie to watch because I think you're right. Scene to scene, it is tonal. Even though there is a common tone throughout and it is campy.
Starting point is 01:14:08 Scene to scene, you're right. Some scenes just feel like, Hey, we're now having a scene that's just high school party. Uh-oh. The bad guys showed up. Okay. Cool. Now though, there's a dinosaur that's going to squash people, bite people's heads off and kill everybody. But it's totally still a party. You know, like some people can still be like, wait, what's going on? He's being silly. But then there's like, uh, then there's like a T-Rex head comes in and is like, chomp, chomp, chomp. You know what I would love right now, I would love you guys to switch spots. We could definitely do that.
Starting point is 01:14:44 Seeing a few. All right. Hold on. I do want to see how I look in that lighting. Okay. Guys, it's happening. This is happening. We're going to see exactly what's going on and we're going to get to the bottom of this. And next time we do one of these, everybody's got the lights. Oh, wow. Full screen, huh? Look at me. Let's see. This is the, oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:15:15 Oh my God. I mean, June, gorgeous. I've never looked here. I can't even hear you yet. I've never looked better. Oh my God. This is, this is electric. I mean, I've literally, I'm stunned by myself. Oh, say it. I really am. I took my own breath away. I mean, look at yourself. Look at this.
Starting point is 01:15:44 I haven't even, it's hard to even look at it straight on because it's so. And you see, I lined up my eye line there so you can kind of look. I just saw in the chat, June, that the screen grab of this now is going to be next month's Vogue cover. Wow. I mean, it should be. I've done, since I've been doing my Twitch channel, I've been on Vogue, the cover of Vogue three times from this.
Starting point is 01:16:09 What? Yeah, just because of the. I cannot believe you've been hiding this lighting from me. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Yeah. I mean, I want to ask you, Paul, how does it feel where you're sitting now? Great.
Starting point is 01:16:26 I was like, you know, honestly, if I had a partner who set up this situation for me, the computer, the lights, I actually like, I do want to say Paul does a lot for me in that area. And I, I do appreciate it. I just didn't know, and I've always appreciated it. I didn't know you were doing this for yourself though. So I hope you understand now. I have. Yeah, I got to take care of number one, number one.
Starting point is 01:16:49 So obviously we have opinions about this movie. There's a lot to talk about here, but there are people out there with a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions and enjoy this listener submitted second opinion song. Take a look. Yeah. Yeah. I love that. Wow. Great work.
Starting point is 01:17:20 Great work. Great grief. Good backdrop. Yeah. Nice talent. Yeah. It was very short succinct to the point. Well done. Here's what I'll say about that guy. Who was that?
Starting point is 01:17:31 I'll tell you in a second. His name is moderner. Moderner is what we got. And I'll say this, if I was looking for a body to put my brain in, I would put it in moderner, moderner from the discord. So thank you. Actually, I'll say this to both of you. I would, if I had to choose, you would both be people I might put my brain in. Wow. What a compliment.
Starting point is 01:17:54 I thought you'd like to hear that. Yeah. That's really nice. Thank you for sharing that, June. Yeah. Yeah. Five star reviews called from Amazon. Sorry, Paul, if you don't mind, can I just examine that for a moment? Let's say, for example, June, you and I were in a terrible accident, right? You did not survive, but
Starting point is 01:18:12 I did. Knock on wood. You did not survive, but I did, but my brain did. So they put your brain into my body. Are Paul and I now married? Well, I don't know. I asked Paul, would you still love me if I was in Jesus' body? Jesus' body. This is the secret all over again, the David and the company movie that you were not a part of. That's right. We did this movie.
Starting point is 01:18:32 We did this movie. We did this movie. June, I don't think you were there, though. I wasn't. No, she wasn't. Paul told me what the movie was about. We played the scene for you. Yeah. Yes.
Starting point is 01:18:44 So you would say that either way, Jason would have to be dating me or it would have to be dating Jason. So one of us would be together. I honestly think that we could probably pull it off. Right. You would be with June. Wait, so you're saying you wouldn't still love me if I was in Jesus' body? What I just said was, I think we could pull it off. That was my answer. I think we could pull it off.
Starting point is 01:19:09 Well, that's not strong enough. That's you. You know what? That's me saying I think it's going to work. I think it's going to work. I'm going to give you guys a minute. Baby, what's going on? I had your back there. I don't know why. Don't embarrass me in front of the live stream.
Starting point is 01:19:24 Yeah. Just coming quickly with a strong answer. Yes. Of course, I would still love you if your brain was in Jason's body. It's really quite simple. Ask it. Ask it. Ask it. We had a technical issue there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:37 So June, you had a question? Yeah. Would you have a question, June? No, I was just saying, would you still love me if my brain was in Jason's body? Absolutely, June. I would still love you. I would still love you no matter where your brain was because that's what I do love about you, your brain. And even though you look absolutely gorgeous under this lighting.
Starting point is 01:19:54 You light me like all you care about is my brain. Wow. Wow. Now, I remember in the previous show, when I lit you pretty well, you got really mad at me. You got really mad at me about that lighting. And then when the lights went off, you actually said, oh, actually, that was a good lighting. I was like, you know, it's pretty good lighting. It's pretty good lighting. And I did turn off the above the headlights for you, but you turned them back on. So that's on you. Anyway, Jason, so these are five star reviews called from amazon.com, 4.5 out of five stars. There are 216 total
Starting point is 01:20:23 reviews, 71% are five star reviews, 2% are one star. Let's have Jason and June on the screen so they can react to these as well. This one is from Amber Kennedy. And Amber Kennedy writes, I love this movie more than most of my family members, five stars, which I thought was like an interesting way of, of couching it. Like you got to have the right audience here. This is not going to be for the whole family. Oh, I thought she was saying, I love them. I love the movie more than I love my family members. No, no, I love this movie more than most of my family members. Oh, I see what you're saying. Oh, wait, maybe, maybe you're right. I think that is what that is.
Starting point is 01:21:02 Oh, wow. More than my most. I think this reviewer is saying I would, I would choose. Yeah, I've given this choice. To keep this movie and allow my family to die. By the way, Amber Kennedy, I hope you don't get that wish, but I appreciate the sentiment. That is probably one of the best five star reviews we've gotten. I'm sorry. I misinterpreted it. This is from just a random Amazon customer. The title is best movie I've ever seen. And it is this is simply the review. Jurassic Park wants what this movie has five stars, which is what, which is what romance. There's no romance in Jurassic Park. Yeah. That's the other thing I wanted to mention is they do the thing that the Jurassic Park
Starting point is 01:21:44 does too, which is that they have the T-Rex's footsteps cause like earthquakey kind of thing. So wouldn't everybody in town be like, there's an earthquake. Yeah, that's the other thing. Everybody kept being like, anyway, go on. Look, they roll up a body in this movie. They roll up a body like a fruit roll up. They roll up a body. They roll up that flattened body. I laughed so hard when they rolled up. They kept calling him by his name. He's that jacked guy. Yeah. Oh, Ron. Oh, by the way, I'm up like a newspaper. They're going to deliver. I got to talk about Ron for a second. So Ron is this guy who is this whole crew, the whole scientist crew is wild. And this guy is like basically like a bodybuilder. He's like in
Starting point is 01:22:27 a crop top or tank tea or whatever he's in. It's like more chess than anything. And Terry Kaiser was also in another movie that we did Mannequin to on the move, which directed by the same guy. And he and he also has henchmen in the same crop top. You can see it here. So that's for Mannequin to on the move. And this is from totally from this. So he basically, I don't know if it's a Terry Kaiser choice or a director's choice. I love this choice. I love it. I love that his henchmen always wants bodybuilder like thugs with him at all time. Really, really solid. And then this final review is from Justin Palmer. And Justin Palmer writes this saw this movie when I was really young, but always thought I dreamt
Starting point is 01:23:13 it up men's crop tops and T Rex's have haunted me since I was a child. Very excited to tell my therapist. It's a real movie and not something I imagined five stars. The title reassuring. Oh my God. And this is kind of the same thing that we found with the peanut butter solution, which is people are traumatized. When you see this at that at an early age, you know, this could get into your psyche in a weird bad way. It also seems to be because I'll be honest. I had never before it came up on our radar. You know, I mean, when it seemed like something we would do, I had never heard of this movie. No, you know, I wasn't I wasn't aware of this movie, even though it has people in it that we know, it's not like like there
Starting point is 01:24:00 are movies we've done that I've never heard of because they really were, you know, under the radar type of movies. But this has like this has people in it. This has this is about, you know, this is the same time period as Jurassic Park and it has died or blah. I've never heard of this. It is a wild film that, by the way, thanks to vinegar syndrome for restoring it to its, its true vision. I mean, they really, this is the Snyder cut. They made a Snyder cut of this movie. By the way, I'm going to say this to me when I went into this lighting. Well, and the chat right now, the chat is calling your look, June, a Jumanescent. That is the chat of the work they have invented. I will ask one final question before we wrap
Starting point is 01:24:40 it up here and say this, how did Paul Walker's body decompose to be full of maggots and rats within 12 hours so quick? He was so like undone hours. I mean, because I mean, it's maybe max. It's 48 hours max. You know, I think, I think she sleeps twice pretty quickly. That quickly seemed really quick. Hey, June, why do you know this? All right. I'm going to, I should I get no, I'm not going to get dark. No, I have. I know. Yeah. Juno's running out. There's no, I think, I think the reason I think close to the situation, you have time. I think they wanted to have the gory thing. I think they wanted to have maggots and rats and, and for her Denise Richards to be like scared and whatever. Let me, let me tell you
Starting point is 01:25:28 this. This is how the movie should have been. We got to put his brain back in his body and then they do it, but then he comes back and he's all fucked up like that. They did not, they didn't like, okay, it like there was some, now he's got like a zombie body. Yeah, yeah. Great. And you know, and by the way, with this light, with that lighting, it really works. That joke wouldn't have worked on my beautiful lighting there because it could never look like a zombie there. And again, you heard my T-Rex impression. Now you've seen my zombie impression. This is a big, big show for me. I appreciate everyone coming out tonight. This has been so great to do these live shows. We love doing them. Hopefully
Starting point is 01:26:05 we'll be able to do this live around the country once again. But in the meantime, we may come back and do another one of these if, if you want that. And, but more importantly, you can find us in different places all over right now. Jason Jr. Want to tell anybody where they can find you? So yes. So Jessica St. Clair and I have our own podcast coming out called The Deep Dive on April 28th. So please subscribe. I'm really excited about it. It's going to be wonderful and insane. And the Jame Club is hosting a summer summit called Lift As We Rise. And it's a weekend retreat. It's going to be so special. And tickets right now are $25. If
Starting point is 01:26:50 you head to jameclub.com and go on to click on summer summit, you can buy tickets and do it right away because the prices are about to go up. And that's all I got, Paul. I'm going to say that I've seen so many people that experienced that weekend retreat and it, it seems absolutely amazing. And if I didn't have to be the parent on call during those weekends, I would be there 100% because you run, it's absolutely inspirational and really, really cool. I got to hear a lot and actually hear everybody talk about how transformative it was. So definitely check that out. I mean, Paul isn't listening in on the sessions. People are sharing and no, no, I'm not like
Starting point is 01:27:32 no, I'm just, I just am hearing about that. Yeah. I'm hearing, I'm hearing about what happened to those intimate, authentic and vulnerable conversations. Yeah. I'm not a part of that. I'm just saying I've heard, I'm not, I'm not outside of the door of the children with a cup up trying to hear it all. Jason, what do you got? I'm, I am the voice of Rex Splode in the Amazon animated show Invincible, which is an adaptation of the Robert Kirkman comic series Invincible that is fantastic. It's up now. Season one is running now on Amazon. It is an animated superhero show that is gory and brutal and incredibly fun and funny, but really is it is a, it is a superhero show for adults. So
Starting point is 01:28:22 I can't recommend it enough. It's a fucking blast and it's really, really great. I absolutely love it. Robert Kirkman, who created The Walking Dead and also created Invincible comic book series. It is like, if you, for lack of a better term, it is like walking dead meets the boys in many, in many respects, and also not like that at all too. It's just great. It's a great superhero story. It's great superhero storytelling, but it's also all about what it is to be a human being inside of like, like, like, like, because the consequences of their actions, they have to deal with throughout the series. And that's what's different as opposed to other superhero shows.
Starting point is 01:29:02 And then I will also just because it's Kirkman, I'll recommend his, his comic right now. Firepower is, is coming out right now in issues drawn by the incredible, one of my favorite artists, Chris Somney. So I recommend picking that up just as a comic recommendation, 100%. And as I've said a couple of times before, Yasmin Williams, Urban Driftwood, album of the year so far. Love that. I'll talk to people about the Cassandra Jenkins record and Cassandra Jenkins. I will quickly just mention that I have jumped into streaming. I have a Twitch channel, which is called Friendzone. So go to twitch.tv slash friendzone and you can see a whole range of stuff. Rob Hubel and I host the show on Thursday nights. David
Starting point is 01:29:42 Wayne does a piano bar on some nights. Courtney McBroom is going to be doing a cooking show. Adam Pally and I punch up your tweets. We actually wrote an Academy Award monologue the other night. Julian Vallard and I do a show where we make a song of your life. There's a bunch of fun shows. We do a focus group with like real comedians. Jason and I have gone on there to do like some live choir chats and there's unspooled live. And we also have a screen test, which is a game show on there. So we have a bunch of fun stuff, all free, all on Twitch. You don't need to do anything different. It's just like YouTube, just twitch.tv slash friendzone and check out all the good stuff there. Watch all the recaps on my YouTube.
Starting point is 01:30:19 And I will also plug that coming back May 23rd, Black Monday, season three is beginning and catch up on season one and two before season three starts. And this season has been we're shooting it right now and it's so much fun. And so good stuff. I can't even really tell you what it's about yet, but it will be great May 23rd. I think that's when it starts roughly. Check it out in that zone. I want to give a huge shout out to Cody, our super producer for putting this together. I want to give a big shout out to Molly, who even though she slammed me about the lighting, I still think is incredible VIP. Averill Halley, one of our producers who picks all of our films, which is an amazing job of cutting our clips
Starting point is 01:30:59 and cutting all these really great stuff. Nate Kiley does all of our research. Nate, you're a champ, a true, true champ. And I also want to give a shout out and some love to the ghost of Craig T. Nelson and Kyle Waldron, who do some of our amazing art that you find on all of our social media pages. July Diaz who listens through the whole show and the person who is always making sure that this show sounds perfect. Devin Bryant, our audio engineer. And I want to give a final shout out to everybody here at On Location Live. What a crack staff. Kayla was been on our video clips and everything today. She's been absolutely amazing. So thank you, Kayla, for all that hard work and thank you to all of
Starting point is 01:31:38 you for being here and spending your Friday night with us. And we hope to do it again. One other thing, one other thing. I hope everybody's getting their vaccination shots if they're available. And yeah, just a special shout out to all the people have been quarantining alone and playing by the rules and hanging in there and just encouragement to get those shots and get on the other side of all this. Yeah. Here's what I'll say. The sooner, the sooner everybody gets their shots and it is safe to be inside theaters doing this live. Oh my God, I can't wait. The sooner, the sooner we will be in your town and you can be in the theater with us. Yes, yes, yes. That's happening. I cannot wait to get back on the
Starting point is 01:32:24 road. Yes. It only happens if we get there, herd immunity, vaccinations, please, please look, there's nothing more like important than all of us being in a movie theater in June to see the new Fast and Furious movie. And if that should be the motivating factor for all of you right now, to see these magnets, I don't want to be, I don't want to be standing. I don't want to be sitting on a stage with thousands of you balcony monsters, just spitting your droplets at no way. I don't want to wear a mask in the balcony. I'm wearing a mask in the balcony. I'm wearing, I'm making this thing now. I'm wearing a mask in the, maybe even a hat. You should have always been wearing a mask in the balcony to be honest. Let's be
Starting point is 01:33:08 honest. I'm pretty sure, I'm pretty sure the balcony is a wet market. Yeah, absolutely. The balcony was a collective patient zero. Because I'll be honest, most balconies, most balconies have bats. I mean, I will say that, that by the way, this is such a, we didn't come out in the news, but a lot of people do think that this may have started in our Seattle show where we released the visitor episode. I would not doubt it. So we are, we apologize for that. By the way, if you've heard the visitor episode, you can see some of the rowdiness of that balcony. It's what all balcony monsters aspire to. And by the way, because we're here and we're just chatting, visit our discord, discord.gg slash HDTGM.
Starting point is 01:33:57 And if you want something that's a little bit more, maybe a little different, there's discord.gg slash Paul Shear, which also has an equally amazing community, great moderators in both, amazing people in both and also very different people in both. So find your flavor and stick with, but I love our discord so, so much. And I love how much they are supporting the show and all here tonight. So thank you, our discord mods on both sides. And that was a, and, and I feel like we are, you know, we're close to being able to do live shows again. And I want to be able to get those babies, get those babies. It's been too long since I've held a stranger's baby. Yeah. And, and there are going to be a lot
Starting point is 01:34:36 of like pandemic babies. Yeah. I want to hold all the pandemic. Wait, June, what? What are you trying to tell me something? No, I'm just saying that like a lot of people have been telling me the truth. Are you June? No, Jason's not here. Are you pregnant? Are you pregnant right now? Oh my God. God damn it. Bring Jason back in. I don't want you to be upset about it. It's not the reaction I wanted. Hey, Jason. Hey, what's going on? What did I miss? I was pooping. Oh, wow, that was quick. Yeah, no, everything's fine. Everybody, thank you so much. We appreciate you so, so much. Good night. Thank you, Jason. Thank you, June. Thank you, Denise Richards. Thank you, T-Rex's. Thank you, Terry Kaiser. Thank you, Paul Walker.
Starting point is 01:35:15 See you next time. We did it. And we did it. Bye bye. We did it.

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