How Did This Get Made? - Matinee Monday: The Country Bears (w/ Kulap Vilaysack)

Episode Date: September 18, 2023

Kulap Vilaysack (Add to Cart podcast) joins Paul, June, and Jason to discuss the 2002 family musical comedy The Country Bears. They talk about the scale of the bears, Queen Latifah appearing as both h...erself and a character, why Trixie wasn’t one of the Country Bears, honey being booze for bears, and much more. Plus, June shares advice on what to do if you encounter a bear. (Originally released 06/06/2019) For more Matinee Monday content, visit Paul's YouTube Page: youtube.com/paulscheerGo to www.hdtgm.com for tour dates, merch, and more.Follow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer/HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheerCheck out Paul and Rob Huebel live on Twitch (www.twitch.tv/friendzone) every Thursday 8-10pm ESTSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael here: listen.earwolf.com/deepdiveSubscribe to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson here: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledCheck out The Jane Club over at www.janeclub.comCheck out new HDTGM merch over at www.teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmWhere to find Jason, June & Paul:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on Twitter

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's like a star is born, but with bears. We saw the country bears, so you know what that means. Hello people of earth and welcome to how did this get made I am Paul Sheer and today we are talking about the 2002 Disney film The Country Bears. What do you need to know? It's a movie based on a ride about a young bear in search of the best bear band there is will they put them back together will they save the bear country hall all this and more we're going to get into it but first let me introduce my co-host Jason man's it's already Jason oh I watch this movie this morning it was terrible 88 minutes Is this movie the exact same plot as Blue's Brothers 2000?
Starting point is 00:01:08 It is the little Haley Joel Osment bear, basically scribbles. Scribbles the bear. Well, here's the one difference. Scribbles didn't have any say in putting the band back together. But the kid bear barely has, you know, let's get into it. Let's get this in. Well, this made me mad. Well, we'll break it all down.
Starting point is 00:01:29 I will say if you are comparing notes, it does have the exact same plot as the Muppet movie that came out recently. Oh, yeah. The exact same plot, both Disney films. But let's get into it with our other co-host, June Diana Mariefield, how are you June? I'm okay Paul. How are you?
Starting point is 00:01:46 Very well June when we put on this movie last night You said one thing Do you remember that now said I can't do this movie and it was within the first 30 seconds of it what Reached out to you in that first 30 seconds. I found this movie to be terrifying. There are shots of, there are certain shots in this movie that feel like a horror film to me. The first shot of the bear. I mean, I guess should we just get into it?
Starting point is 00:02:19 Okay, yeah, there are things about this movie that are haunting. Got it. All right. Honding to me. Jason's bored. Jason's eyes and scope and scale of the bears. And how, and here's the thing,
Starting point is 00:02:31 like, were there other bears in the world? Yes, they were. Well, I need to get into that. I need to get a bear review. There are five other bears in the world. A bear review. I think I only saw two. But let's get into it all with our returning guest.
Starting point is 00:02:44 I would call her how to disg it made all star. She's been with us since the beginning. It's our first ever episode. She is a writer. She is a director. She hosted an amazingly funny show here called Who Charred About Right Now. We're here to celebrate your brand new film that you wrote. You directed you starring. started to a documentary uh... called origin story which is right now on amazon prime please welcome cool up whoo
Starting point is 00:03:12 yeah we who are simply left to you become a fucking powerhouse director getting right up over the place i'm i baby getting right up the over the place. I, why, baby. Are there, are you still shooting any of the movie?
Starting point is 00:03:28 Like are there parts I can audition for? Or... It's a documentary, Jason, you can't just audition for. I'd love to play myself. Well, I think this will be in the sequel. Great. Let me just get this right, though. Because several of your friends do appear in the movie.
Starting point is 00:03:41 I know I do. Yes, well, you're a producer. Yes, and I'm also appear doing a testimonial. And I know Sarah Silverman's in it, Casey's in it. Did you not ask Jason because there was a... Oh, wow, interesting. All right, this is a good call. Part for him or you didn't want him to win.
Starting point is 00:03:56 I mean, guys, when we say part, again, it's a autobiographical documentary. I mean, about your life. Right, your life, which I feature very prominent. I know, Jay. Well, we are, you are a good friend. I would say I'm like a recurring guest star in your life. What'd you say that now?
Starting point is 00:04:15 Did you negotiate? I mean, listen. Can I just say, can I just say just based on what's happening right here? It feels a little bit like Tennessee and Trixie's relationship in the country bears. Oh, chemistry. Oh, and the chemistry.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Am I also wearing a Racy outfit? Can you cover up your bear part? Yes. Underneath except for a robe. What's covering else is covering their bits. Yeah, well not, or yeah, or barely even. That's the thing is Trixie is wearing. Yeah, I feel like I've done the show four times in each movie I've done prior. There you go!
Starting point is 00:04:46 Wow. I feel I've done the show four times in each movie I've done prior. There was something to like. There were parts that were interesting. Yeah, and- There were two mothers fucking each other's sons, right? A door or- No, I love an emo Toby McGuire over whatever that Andrew Garfield bullshit A second call up. There's a great scene in this movie. Uh-oh. There's two wonderful moments in this movie only involving Christopher walkin
Starting point is 00:05:16 No, there's a different there's by the way MVP and he's amazing and and the scene with the the you know bear model Country place getting squash is hilarious. It's a great scene. And then there's another moment when all of the bears are on the road, they are at a diner. And Tennessee reveals that he's divorced from Trixie. And Tennessee is the therapist who is a marriage therapist.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Okay. I'll take it all the way back. But let me just tell cool up the other wonderful moment and this movie is what is when Tennessee says you know I got divorced from Trixie and one of the other bears I don't know any other names says was it the sweater yeah and it was a laugh out loud yeah moment well I think genuinely was delivered really well yes it was a laugh out loud. Yeah, moment. Well, I think it was genuinely was delivered really well. Yes, it was hilarious And when you think about when you say that thing about delivery, I think we have to remember that there are people in the suit And then there are people doing their voices. They are separate entities. Oh, yeah, we have two people
Starting point is 00:06:22 Combining for one great performance. You're telling me, Bob. That's like a chance for a man. And here's the other thing. I think, and I might be wrong, but I think there are certain times when the person voicing the bear is not the voice of the bear singing. Exactly. So like when Bonnie, when Bonnie rates sings trixi, I'm not sure if Bonnie rates doing trixi's
Starting point is 00:06:43 dialogue as well. No, she is not. Right? No, Trixie's dialogue as well. No, she's not. And I know she's definitely not in the bear costume. Oh no, she's definitely in the bear costume. Yeah, Bonnie rate, like she requested. That's what she does. Bonnie rates whole thing is six months of the year she's on tour,
Starting point is 00:06:58 six months of the year she's in a bear costume at Disney World. She is amazing in that bear costume. It's very like, Sia. Like, you know, you don't really see her. Yes, Sia. She's the Sia of bears. By the way, by the way, as we're talking about, the voices that were lent to the bear,
Starting point is 00:07:16 Don Henley was the other voice of Tennessee, the singing voice. Yes, Tennessee. This is an all-star cast. And Toby Hess. Yeah. Oh, no, what was, he was the one who was addicted to honey, this is an all-star cast. Toby Hess. Oh, no, what was he was the one who's addicted to honey, which is liquor? Is honey booze? That's what I was asking.
Starting point is 00:07:32 Is honey booze for bears? Can we go back to what Jason was saying about bears in this world? Let's go back to what Jason was saying. The bears in this world are the biggest question mark I have because Heli Joazment the bear is in a family of Stephen Tobalowski's like normal human family has adopted a bear son and even though their last name is stolen Boy, I get it. Wow from what I could Oh boy, I get it. Wow. From what I could understand. There was a caller displayed.
Starting point is 00:08:07 That's what I'm saying. The bear, the main bear, the hailey jolosman bear, and they are called the barrington. They are the barrington. So they have a baby, they're bear files. They seem to, from that story that his brother told him, that bear was just trapped by a bear traffic. Yes, and
Starting point is 00:08:32 So you're saying that that underneath this is a very sad story about bears being cute like why would anyone ever? What world is this in which bears are adopted the bear was was not endangered, the bear was not. I couldn't figure that out either. I couldn't figure out what was the, because are there a bear? Are there a bear? Yes, just live in the world. But are there bears in this world? And I say that in the way that,
Starting point is 00:08:55 are there bears as we know them in this world? Like are there regular bears? Regular bears are all bears. There are other animals that seem to be in their habitats living their lives. Yeah, the chicken. And then they're the chicken. The chicken doesn their lives. Yeah, the chicken. And then the chicken. The chicken doesn't talk.
Starting point is 00:09:06 No, the chicken is a chicken. Right. When we find out at the end is a female. June's point is important. The chicken is a chicken. And that's- That's like a very doggie- existential statement.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Yes. And then there are these bears. These bears. Please speak of those scales, please. Okay, so did you guys think that the bears were too scale? Here's the thing, oftentimes I noticed like when the bears need to use a payphone, they have had to build a big payphone. So the world has accommodated certain bear needs.
Starting point is 00:09:43 But in the world that we have been introduced to, there are only about five bears out there. But then it sometimes seemed like the bears were 15 feet tall. Yes. And sometimes the same height. And sometimes the same height. But how, well, first of all, how tall is that actual bear?
Starting point is 00:10:01 Depends on what type of bear we talk about. Like a brown bear, how tall is a brown bear? I think you're talking six to nine feet tall, depending on what species of bear. A Kodiac. Some are much bigger, grizzlies and so forth, but some are pretty like a brown bear. I'll rephrase the question.
Starting point is 00:10:18 How big is the biggest bear? Okay, I'm gonna talk that into the game. I mean, like. There's, it's gotta be the Kodiac. There's a bear that fights in the New Godzilla movie that I believe is 16 stories tall. Well, I wanna answer this question and by saying that I think that this movie unfortunately reversed and janeered the size of the bears based on the attraction in Disney land. Because this is a movie based on attraction.
Starting point is 00:10:42 It's an attraction that I brought my dad to and we went to Tokyo Disney. Yeah, yeah. I said we needed to go see the country bear, Jambri, because it's one of the few remaining places the country bears exist. And the bears in that show are very large, I think to accommodate a stage show. So I think they just said, well,
Starting point is 00:11:00 we need to keep them that size. Can I ask a quick question, clarification? The country bears show is animatronic or is it people in suits? Animatronic. And they play songs. So why doesn't matter? Look, why would you have to draw these bears to scale
Starting point is 00:11:15 with a ride at Disney? Well, I mean, I think you're coming for that, right? It's sort of like, I love the ride at Disney. Now I need to see the movie. But, right? I mean, isn't that, isn't that kind of like the promise of the promise? Is this basically like pirates of the Caribbean but with country bears?
Starting point is 00:11:33 Yes. It worked with that. Let's just get these bears on a movie. This is I think before it even kind of clicked in, it was like they had any Murphy doing the haunted mansion. They had. It did? Oh, yeah. It's just so weird, because we know that there are humans in those suits.
Starting point is 00:11:48 And yet the bears themselves, like I would think that they would build costumes for very tall people. Okay. And then at, but then at points, those bears look like they were 15 feet tall. That's, no, they can't, that's so big. They look a lot, I know. They are big. They are, they are very big, but No, nobody the world seems to be not set up for it, but they don't seem to nobody blinks and I don't yeah
Starting point is 00:12:16 No, everything seems to be totally normal that these bears in some clothing right speaking English Speaking English, you're just wandering around. Well, they became big giant country music stars, but I would also argue that I was worried for Heli-Jolosment the bear, because by the way, when we referred him, you have to picture a bear. He is a bear. Yes.
Starting point is 00:12:37 He is a beary-bearington. Very, very, veryton. He is at the table and he says to his parents, am I adopted? I look different. He has freckles. Does he know he's a bear? Well, that's my question, because he knows he's a bear.
Starting point is 00:12:49 He's kind of, because he's literally there is a honey bear on the table in front of him. And he just came from watching the country bear's documentary behind the music upstairs. So weird is I think he sees those bears. He sees his family. He doesn't know he's connected to the music, but he doesn't know that that's that he's one of them. Is he a cut our all bears country bears? Is he a country bear? Well I know one of them his
Starting point is 00:13:18 father like that's what I wrote is Paul trying to re-do it as me. I wrote that here is Paul. This is what I am. Well you see, and then I wrote, Barry took it better than I did. Ah! Ah! How did this get me? So do you think that these bears are granted special powers?
Starting point is 00:13:41 Is that what we're talking about? Because they birthed him? Because I don't know, like, how are country bears made? Like, are some bears born capable of speech and musical activity? Because country bears is like calling somebody the eagles, like the band the eagles. They're not like country bear. But just to answer all your questions, the biggest bear is the polar bear. Okay. And the average weight of the polar bear is about 900 to 1,500 pounds.
Starting point is 00:14:15 That's... The heaviest on record is a 2,000 pound polar bear. That's right. And the tallest the polar bear could ever be. This is the biggest one. Okay. Eight to 8. four feet. Hmm. Okay. So Literally eight feet less than what you thought these bears are concept of like a 15 to 16 foot bear would be like
Starting point is 00:14:41 Really like two story tall bear it would be very scary. Yeah, yeah. I mean, in this world, I think before the movie starts, some things happened and bears have evolved. Okay. At a rapid pace and are singing and dancing and singing. And flipping. By the way, that opening cut, these bears are doing more agile work than any,
Starting point is 00:15:04 for their lofty weight and a disproportionate weight. They're flipping their flying and stage dives. You're telling this movie posits that a country bear invented the stage dive. Yeah. That's your response. Well, here's something that's really crazy. At a certain point in the movie, they cut to news footage.
Starting point is 00:15:24 And the newscaster refers to news footage and the news caster refers to the country bears as men. Oh wow. I missed. Not male, but men. These men kidnapped and it's so strange because then I thought maybe the world is not seeing the country bears. Wow. Okay. Oh, that's curious. Now that's husky, your men. Bottom heavy.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Well, here's the thing. Harry men. Let me corroborate this with I would argue that if you were to tell this movie from the adopted brother's point of view, he believes, Dex, Dex believes he's the only one who can see that the brother is a bear. No, he loves, he knows he's a bear. Yeah, but he won't speak to it.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Okay. Everybody, he's like, I'm different, I'm different. He's like, you know what? Everybody's different in different ways. Bob, Bob, Bob, nobody ever says you're a bear. Nobody ever said, and the kids like, what are you talking what? Everybody's different in different ways. Bob, Bob, Bob, nobody ever says your bear. Nobody ever said, and the kids like, what are you talking about? He's, when the police, right there,
Starting point is 00:16:29 and the police are there, and they're looking at photos and they're like, what is he, uh, fourth grader? And they're like, that's exactly right. And he's like, what are you talking about? He's covered in hair all over his body. Like, this kid is like, he's a bear. And meanwhile, the police officers of ham and cheats do a great job of finding him relatively quickly
Starting point is 00:16:46 I mean they just go to the one place. What is this? Does this all happen in one town? It seems like the bus to get there is close and very far because the cops get there immediately but Harrilee Joel Osmond the bear takes a long time. The cops get there immediately. The cops run into them at the diner. The cops they are all all They'll come. They'll ozment the bear. They'll ozment the bear. They'll ozment the bear.
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Starting point is 00:17:39 Well, my question is, and it should be a performer ever. Or how much were they charging for those tickets? Because even at the end, when they do save the day, it only seems like about 50 or 60 people showed up. They're definitely not making 20 grand that night. I mean, let's know. In one bucket, in one bucket.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Now, I can never know how many jelly beans are in any sauce. We do have a VIP experience after? Oh, okay. All right. There's a mech. There's a mech. Perhaps there was an eBay type of situation. Like, okay.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Except the country bears, it's an meet. Oh. Do they eat? Just pounds of meat. Oh, miles of meat. They sign trouts for you. But I think here's a thought. And I just put in your head, maybe the country bear house
Starting point is 00:18:29 is right on the verge of like Silicon Valley, so these are all just tech investors. So they could maybe have raised that 20. Country, you think, you know, like I fully expected the country bear to like get a record deal at the end or something, because that was the other thing. Everybody knew who they were. They were the biggest band of all time. They're the Beatles. But yet wherever they went, people weren't like fog country bears. People weren't losing their minds everywhere. When Crystal Harris puts it together, she goes, wait a second, you're Fred the bear. But he's when working security at this, uh. They seem to be familiar with each other. Yeah, like she wouldn't have thought, wait a second.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Like, if you saw Paul McCartney working security, you'd be like, you're Paul McCartney, right? You wouldn't need to see his guitar before you put it together. Yeah, you wouldn't, with his name written on it. Like, he just, and then that's his property of the Beatles. She knows his name is Fred, but it's not until she sees his harmonica, which says Fred, that she says, wait a minute, you're the Fred who's a bear that plays harmonica.
Starting point is 00:19:35 You're from the country bears. And then they proceed to do a musical number, and this is my biggest issue with the movie. I'm fine with musical numbers. If there's some reality to them, it seemed to me that they shot a full music video and I'm like, okay, if that's a fantasy, that's one thing. But at the end, she has already done makeup changes and wardrobe changes. And she's like, all right, gotta go shoot my music video now. Meanwhile, they, they, they, when they're in the section of the movie where they're
Starting point is 00:20:05 beginning singing and playing, what we think is the music video, but then she's exactly like you said, says she's then going to do the music video. The film takes on the look of a music video, like the angles are all of a sudden all over the place, crazy, it's quick cutting. So the film has the feel of a music video. See, but I could never tell in those moments and the same thing happened at the diner. In those moments, were we in the bear's fantasy?
Starting point is 00:20:35 Were the bear's fantasizing about their own music having this effect on people, or was that really happening? Because Crystal Harris changed. That's what I'm saying. She was in a totally different outfit and makeup. She was the cheerleader. Yeah, exactly. You know, but- Oh, so he was fantasizing for that long?
Starting point is 00:20:51 Yeah. Wow. I don't think so. I think we're meant to- But then the other bear saw him, saw them doing the video, that jam, that impromptu jam with changes. Which seemed like a country bear song, not a crystal heresy song, right?
Starting point is 00:21:06 The whole country bear a song, like, I don't know. Oh, I really, really much. She is playing herself. No disrespect, but I was confused. Crystal Harris. I was like, oh, her and the waitress and the diner. I was like, I don't know the waitress and the diner.
Starting point is 00:21:22 I was wondering if they were like Disney kids of the time. We eat mediocre talents in a day.. I was wondering if they were like Disney kids of the time I was like You know, yeah, I figured maybe these were like kid Disney like stars of this era Yeah, I don't or I was like or or these are just actors and they're not supposed to be people I'm meant to know no most of them are I mean like Elton John recorded an original song for this movie What why there was there was so many people. There was so many people now. There's so many people now. There's so many people now.
Starting point is 00:21:48 There's so many people now. There's so many people now. There's so many people now. There's so many people now. There's so many people now. There's so many people now. There's so many people now. There's so many people now.
Starting point is 00:21:56 There's so many people now. There's so many people now. There's so many people now. There's so many people now. There's so many people now. There's so many people now. There's so many people now. There's so many people now. There's so many people now.
Starting point is 00:22:04 There's so many people now. There's so many people now. There's so many people now. There's so many people now. There's so many people now. Latifa in the documentary footage, but then she plays Chacha in the bar, which is a bold choice. What? Wait, she's playing herself. She's in the video. I didn't see the documentary. Oh, the documentary at the end when they go to credits. It's like Willie Nelson, it's Wyclef Jean, it's Queen Latifa.
Starting point is 00:22:20 Talking about how the country bears like were so inspiring to talk about. I did not watch that. I get it. I thought that was still her character. Chacha. Yeah. Yeah, no. Chacha.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Oh, Brian Setser. Oh, Brian Setser. Oh, yeah. They're in Spanish. They spend so much money. Also, they spend so much money on music. There are songs in here that are exf. There's a Bob Dylan song.
Starting point is 00:22:40 There's a William song. There's so many expensive songs in this that I was like, what is going on with the cut? Money was spent on this. This is a kids movie. This is unmaskedly for children. Isn't it? I mean, I think it's a story that adults can definitely relate to.
Starting point is 00:22:55 There are certainly sexual overtones. I mean, Trixie is naked. Trixie, I saw upstairs and downstairs. And in's Wayne. By the happy trail. Why was it not Trixie? I was in Trixie a country bear. Wasn't she.
Starting point is 00:23:14 And why was she be wasn't a country bear? At the end wasn't she part of the band? She was thrown on stage, but she wasn't a part of the country bear. The original yeah, that's true, which I found troubling. She seemed to be the most talented of all the bears. Absolutely. She's got Bonnie Reid's voice. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:29 So that's like unquestionable. And possibly the only female bear. I mean, they're the big, the middle bear. In the world. Yeah. She's the smurfette of a sentient bear. Oh, the way she has to be Haley Joel Osman's mom. There's no other way.
Starting point is 00:23:42 I don't disagree. There's not another woman. Well, there is. With Tennessee in other way. I don't disagree. There's not another woman. Would you see in that Bill Cosby sweater? Yes. By the way, we talk about his couple therapy skills. He's doing couples therapy, like the way that you would run a business meeting. He is behind a desk and his two people are seeing him, like, is sitting in front of him, like they're getting a board review.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Yes. And it's two SNL cast members from the time. And I was like, I love, I wish they had like made this that they were themselves a couple married on SNL, but still needed couples therapy from a bear. And the bear, he's by the way a terrible therapist, terrible, because he will not talk to them about themselves at all. He's just crying about him in trixi. Come on. I couldn't get to the bottom of what happened between him and Trixie. And you know, he cheated on the road. He cheated on the. Oh, but the on the hybrid.
Starting point is 00:24:35 That's very small. Who just never. Maybe now where he cheated with. Oh, interested. Can I just pitch out the easier version of this movie? You have a whole world of bears. Oh And then that's it like I mean I guess I took it forward Well to me it's sort of like why do you put Haley Joel Osment there because Just put him in a family of bears and they're like a count bears. They're not creative bears and he longs to be creative
Starting point is 00:25:03 It complicates the world that there are these things because at the car wash, there's one bear in the way background. That's the only other bear I've saw. When the country bears play at the end, there's no bears that come to see the country bears so they're not playing to their own audience. Where are the bears? And if they are being captured like that. Like our country bears and endangered species.
Starting point is 00:25:29 First of all, like Sasquatch and those country bears. They're not country bears. They're just bears. Sure. Language matters Jason. But here's what I'm wondering. Here'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, bears. I feel like there was a country where the country refers to the description of the music they play. I think they're from the country and speak like all bears are from the country. First of all, wait, no, not all of them. It's a polar bear. Well, it bears from like Antarctica. Okay, I guess it's true. Words matter, June.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Good chance. The padding canvas from the jungle. Yes, June all of a good, James. Pat and Tim was from the jungle. Yes. Okay. June all of a sudden really stereotyping bears. You know we have a large contingent of bears that listen to the podcast. You know there's a lot of bears who download How Did This Get Me? I think that... So they're Blackberry. I think that's the Beast. Ah!
Starting point is 00:26:40 I think these bears. Again, that makes the most sense to me is just bears had, through some sort of like nuclear event or some technology. Oh, you think it's like a Godzilla kind of thing? Like, kind of a beast. Yeah, bears evolved at a rapid pace past every other species.
Starting point is 00:27:03 And so all bears now have been domesticized in this world. All of them? Maybe. Maybe. But what should have happened? Wouldn't it destroy the ecosystem? If bears left what they were up to and just started living in cities and hanging out?
Starting point is 00:27:21 Wouldn't everything fall apart? This brings me to my big point. I don't know what I mean, species die all the time, Jason. We're at the dinosaurs. Well, sure, but I mean, also the death of the dinosaurs, like eradicated life on, like a part of like everything, like a complete, what are we doing right now?
Starting point is 00:27:37 What's happening? What, how did I get roped into this? Species, what I'm saying is, there are species that are dying right now. Sure. And it doesn't mean that some of them are delicious. It doesn't mean that light some of our ops are like amazing trophies. Yes.
Starting point is 00:27:54 I would love to have one of these country bear heads on the wall. I would love a bear head, a country bear head on the wall. By the way, I was literally googling last thing. I bet you could find pieces of this costume because Because what are you gonna do with these big bags? Why? Paul would like to have them. Why were you googling? Oh, June, now.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Why were you googling? Why were you googling? Can I get a country bear costume? You, maybe. By the way, did you hear you said, there's gotta be pieces of this costume. No, I need a bear card. Not a costume.
Starting point is 00:28:22 It's the head, I need a head. June, you're gonna walk it up, pull she a jerky knife with a bare paw on. The first is a single bare paw. It's natural. Two. It's natural. Two.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Oh, when I'm hanging out with Bonnie Raight, who will be laughing then? All right, because we'll be comparing our bears to you. Here's my issue about bears, because they go visit Chacha, who is Queen Latif at the Swarming Hive Honey Bar, which is seemingly is a bar that serves honey. Yet there are no patrons in there besides Zeb Zubler, who is a bear.
Starting point is 00:29:05 But yet they have like a bark scratcher, which is like a big piece of wood, scratcher bears back, but there's no other bears in a funny box. That bolster's your thought that the whole world should be catering to bears because it's a bear's world. Right. But it is not. It is overwhelmingly human world,
Starting point is 00:29:23 and the country bears that we are following are the only bears. And if you could get drunk on honey, I would have done it. Yeah. Yeah, the alcoholic content of honey is zero. Well, it seemed like she was like kind of... Are humans there drinking honey?
Starting point is 00:29:38 Yes. Like if I go to that party here, Brian sets her orchestra, the house band, the house band, do I just like drink honey? I have to tell you the whole time I thought his last name was Seltzer. Really? So just now? Till I saw the film.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Wow! By the way, what's that song they did together improvised in the moment like an M&M kind of like rap battle? Or was that a classic song of the Fiddler battle? Because it seemed to be a song that was telling the story of exactly what was happening. But it didn't seem like they were improvising. It was like, let's do this classic Fiddler house band battle song.
Starting point is 00:30:21 I agree. I think we're meant to believe they're just like winging it, but obviously it was like this some song, but it was weird that all the lyrics just were describing the literal events that were happening in the moment. I know you like a little honey, but your credit's no good man You're out of mind I know you've been fed up with the best Where I've been reputting you to the top I'm here by challenging you to a duel You might be crying your little You're fussy fool
Starting point is 00:31:00 Hey man, Mr. Thames Pretty good for a local boy tender in the neighborhood. Well, I'm a little russian now. I'm in the night, ready to go. I'm one day, I head by and say, I'm your chance to do. You'll get your emotional. You're crazy, boom. I'm owning it for the heart.'s made my hands feel kind of hot.
Starting point is 00:31:28 And they gave Zeb Zubler a chance to kind of get better. Zeb Zubler, who is from the actual country bear jamboree, which we get all go-do. And if you want to do like extra little extra research here. We're going on June's right. Are you like lead into how into country bears pull is? little extra research. We're like, what's going on? June loves Ryan. Are you like lead into how into country bears pull is? Where is the country bear ride? The country bear ride is in Tokyo Disneyland and it also, wait, it's only in Tokyo.
Starting point is 00:31:57 I can't even know why this movie was made. No, no, no, no, no, no, it used to be, yeah. In Disneyland here, what happened? Yes. People didn't like it anymore. It became irrelevant. I will tell you, it's a 16 minute long show that's, can at certain points be a little boring? I saw it in Disney World in Florida
Starting point is 00:32:16 when I was like nine years old. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, it's basically, it's the inspiration of Bear Country, which is in Disneyland, but the Winnie of the Pooh ride took over for that. But it's like basically, you know, they- Another bear wearing some clothes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Clothes that doesn't cover his generals. No, he just wears a t-shirt. He just wears a shirt. Yeah. He's just kind of, he's like, got to wear that shirt just like. This is where like the clothing in this, I was like, would it be scandalous if Trixie took her clothes off? Well, I couldn't be scandalous if that bear just removed his vest and hat. Well, are we then looking at him nude?
Starting point is 00:32:58 This goes back to my biggest aesthetic choices alone. Well, that's the question I have for bear. Are these tutorialy and choice? It might be scandalous for us to see them that way, but would they experience shame about their bodies? And if they don't, then if they don't, should we? But they have shame about their jobs. He didn't want to be seen as a wedding singer.
Starting point is 00:33:17 He didn't want to be seen as the guy who lives over Elton John's pool house. He was embarrassed. But he's trying to find if he's living with Elton John, but okay. By the way, Elton John delivering on his performance. I mean, everyone's bringing there. I mean, Don Henley going, you guys are better than the Eagles. Everyone's bringing a little bit of stuff
Starting point is 00:33:36 because kids love Eagles humor. And they get like Don Henley's whole take on that. The kids, like the audience for this movie, young children, understand what a relentless dick Don Henley was throughout all iterations of the Eagles, and especially now in watching it, it must be interesting because we all know that Glen Fry has passed and the Eagles are still going. You know, the kids know the lot of the history of the Eagles. What a great, I mean, there's still... Joe Walsh's addition in the late 70s, reinvigorating the band.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Well, here's my question about the band. It seemed like there was no conflict in getting them back together, because wherever they went, they were like, we're getting the band back together. They were like, all right, can I ask? What was the incident that broke them up? I do not think so.
Starting point is 00:34:22 It was, it had to do with the wedding singer, but I don't think we ever got to the bottom of. I don't think we did these. Yeah, so he stormed that first of all that tour bus was disgusting. Disgusting. And so then it made me also think, is this tour bus supposed to look disgusting
Starting point is 00:34:36 like we're thinking about ourselves, oh yeah, of course a bunch of bears lived in here. What, do you think that was the case? Well, here, this is what it says on the Wikipedia page. Oh boy. Okay. All right. It's a little, it's a little bit more complicated than I even thought.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Oh great. Okay. So, why do I feel like if I looked at your screen right now, it would just be an eBay auction for a country bear, a country bear arm and head. I'm almost there guys, just shut up, I'm almost there. So Zeb claims Ted to be the reason for the band's disestablishment,
Starting point is 00:35:17 but Ted claims that he held them together and that no one was grateful as the other members were all busy letting their personalities and habits get in the way, habits weird. Barry reminds them that they claimed each other to be family, but Ted claims it was meaningless publicity. Barry realizes the real meaning of family and returns home. I still don't understand why.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Oh, sorry. I thought what happened when they leave the tour bus in that field. I thought what they were saying was that the wedding singer bear was too obsessed with like getting the stage work right? Right. They didn't, he's like, what are we, what's the set? Yeah, we don't know the set. He's like, we gotta get our set. He seemed like he was just concerned with like the technical elements of the show. But he was tired of doing all the work and having none of the fun.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Well, we know what that feels like. um... but they use time to do all the work and having none of the what that feels like that that but they seem to be doing a great show but we can you still a joke from another movie because in the beginning of the movie they have an amp that goes to twelve the joke in spinal tatters it goes to a lot of the height
Starting point is 00:36:22 uh... right as it goes to the level that they heightened it. Oh, okay. Oh, right. Okay. So that's it. How does this go? How does this go? Oh, I have a question that I wrote in my notes and read into this what you will. Is Dan Acroix involved in this movie at all? Great question.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Great question. And one point of like, is that his voice? Is it possible? Dan Acroix is involved in this movie somehow? It makes all the sense. I agree. When I heard a voice that sounded like Dan Ackroyd and I was like now I get it Now everything adds up. Yeah, this is some sort of Ackroydian fever dream come to life. Do you think them? Some crystal skull bullshit. Yeah Do you think that maybe he turned down a part?
Starting point is 00:37:06 I mean, because he could have been repollin' because the other thing that occurred to me was I was like, this, you know, in talking about it, really, there are so many similarities to the Blues Brothers, to the, to what the Blues Brothers even like central storyline is, you know, having to do something to raise money to save the thing, you know, the orphanage in the first movie to save the thing, you know, the orphanage and the first movie or whatever, like these are all the tropes of these movies that like
Starting point is 00:37:29 I feel like is Dan Acquired behind everything? And are we safe? Everything in the world? Are we safe? Am I okay? Am I part of Dan Acquired? He killed the dinosaurs. Is this his Truman show and we are living in it?
Starting point is 00:37:42 Oh, by the way, when I type in Dan Ackert Country Bear, he did ever run and with a bear in the movie The Great Outdoors. Oh, an 1800 pound bear they call it. Oh wow. Just so you really know what they're supposed to do when they see a bear? Yeah, you're supposed to get as big as possible
Starting point is 00:38:00 and make like a lot of noise. How would you do that? A lot of for every bear. Oh, for every bear. Oh, okay, hold on. Not for every bear? We're learning a lot of noise. How would you do that? For every bear. Oh, for, okay. All right, hold on. Not for every bear? We're learning a lot. For every bear.
Starting point is 00:38:09 And you're supposed to stay still, right? Not for every bear. No, for every bear. So I don't know which bear is which, but for certain bears, you should climb a tree because they can climb other bears like don't ever climb a tree because they can climb some, don't turn your back on,
Starting point is 00:38:24 some make a ton of noise. There's a lot of different ways to approach different types of bears. like don't ever climb a tree because they can climb some don't turn you back on, some make a ton of noise. There's a lot of different ways to approach different types of there. So how would you approach Barry Barrington? Punch in the nose, I believe, is sharks. How would you approach Zeb Zubler or Barry Barrington? Paul, we were in this situation. Do you remember we went on that hike?
Starting point is 00:38:41 We weren't in this situation. Me. We were talking about what we would do. Do you remember we went on that hike we weren't in this situation We were talking about what we would do We were trained and perhaps Did we kill a bear? Yes, we killed a bear are you guys like out there like are you guys like like getting trophies? Are you out in the world like secretly big game hunters? I've never heard a bear.
Starting point is 00:39:05 June and I were walking around a lake at a wedding. And you were afraid that there might be a bear. Because we had been told there were, there were that year alone, a number of people had died by hands of bears. Were you guys killed? Not ants, but I think it was a number of people had seen bears.
Starting point is 00:39:27 That's not true, Paul. A number of people had died from bear attack? This is a cute, yes, this was a huge problem. A Yellowstone, the campers were leaving. But we weren't a Yellowstone. But we were not there. We were at a war. We were in war.
Starting point is 00:39:43 We were in the campers. We were walking around a lake That was near a city Remember that no we were out in Wyoming All right, so wait just a just a finished June story. How did you get away from the bear? Well, I took preventative action the biggest thing and just Well, I took preventative action. The biggest thing. And just was we were both really loud
Starting point is 00:40:07 because we knew there were bears around. Now, we didn't really have a feeling of this. Yeah, that's what we're screaming. What is this just a cover of Fight You Guys Had by O'Leake? Is this whole episode an effort to cover a fight you guys had by O'Leake that you're worried is gonna get out there? And so you're reverse engineering and excuse we were very loud by a lake in Wyoming
Starting point is 00:40:29 just screaming at each other in order to scare a bear. June I don't mean to I don't mean to let you down but the these are the bear attacks that have happened since 2014 for in North America. That's a lot. Four deaths. Four deaths from 2014. Yes, one in 2014 in New Jersey, one in 2015 in British Columbia, one in 2017 in Alaska, and one in 2017 in Alaska. So there weren't a lot of people killed by bears in Yellowstone. Well, we weren't even in Yellowstone. I really learned. June didn't want to become a new staff.
Starting point is 00:41:14 We were walking around speaking very loud. Knowledge has powered you. I don't remember. I remember being told that a number of campers had been attacked by bears that year. And an attack is different than a death. That's true. Maybe they didn't die. Maybe they didn't perish. Well, if I was a if I saw a bear, I would kind of act like Christopher Walkins character who let's get into it. Yes. The MVP of this movie. There's only one person who can act against a 15-foot tall bear who can act against a 15-foot tall bear, fallalously. And I thought his performance was next level.
Starting point is 00:41:53 He felt like a gave a shit. I mean. He gave us all of the emotions. Oh, he's the antagonist in the movie. He's the person who is intending to tear down the country bear Barn what's right hall Which I kind of thought was like a studio 54 of the time How so you know, I just like that was a place full of cocaine. Yeah, well jade Jagger does a line of blow off Andy Warhol's finger.
Starting point is 00:42:26 I kind of feel like that's what was going on there. And I felt like it was like, I hit Pappin and spot people go out to the woods, get freaky, get wild. Because here's the thing. I felt like Barry Barinstein, not Barinstein, that's the other bear's. Barrington. Barrington, Barry Barrington leaves hisive home uh... with Stephen Tobalowski and family mhm
Starting point is 00:42:48 which to me seemed like he lived in the suburbs of chicago yes and the country bear barn or or rather seems to be in luiziana i mean yeah it's in the key got a multiple buses to get to this and it took him a long time by the way but it but it appears to be the same town. The bus stops seemingly in the middle of, there's no town. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:11 It's just a lone structure and a bridge. And the Haley Jalazman bear runs home. He does. He does. And then he seems this world. And then he seemingly takes a gigantic long bus ride back because you see him out at the back because you see him out the top, you see him out the side of the window, but then his family's inside and they're
Starting point is 00:43:28 taking pictures. Like I almost feel like at the end of the movie they could have pulled out and shown us like a kid playing with no, a kid playing with toys. Yes. And I would understand the logic of this one. Waiting online to get into the country bear gym. Here we go. At Tokyo Disneyland.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Listen to that. Listen to me. Listen to me. I'm getting online to get into the country bear jamboree ride at Tokyo Disneyland with his dad Listen to me Listen to me How is your origin story? Yeah I'm interested See? I'm not getting it
Starting point is 00:43:53 I'm misunderstood because I am a bear I am a shaved bear Oh God I'm a shaved bear No God the action's ending That's the T-shirt I'm a shaved bear That's the tea. I have a shaved bear.
Starting point is 00:44:06 That's the tea shirt right there. This world has forced bears to shave. Oh, God. Tobalowski is a bear. Is that why everybody is a bear? These bears let their hair grow out. You know what? I knew this was a pro bear advocacy on part of Paul.
Starting point is 00:44:22 I heard rumblings that he was a shaved bear this whole time. Finally getting the word out. Oh, this is shocking. June? In a way, our bear years, our bears aging at the same rate. Oh, good question. The humans are aging. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:44:39 Well, when Haley Jolosman bear spoke for the first time, I was shocked. Because seeing his face before he spoke I thought that's clearly a teenager, but he's a fourth grader. Oh, I didn't put that together. Oh For greater ran away like that Tagonists were not bad people. Yeah, like even Christopher walk and he said that the haul, they were six years late in rent and in payment. That's not bad. And all he wanted to do is literally crush it,
Starting point is 00:45:11 his office, again, the funniest scene in the movie where he has a giant anvil that just crushes multiple copies. That's fair. All he wanted to do was drop an anvil on it. That's all you wanted. That's all a simple desire. Like, can't we all live in a world which we can drop an anvil on places that we don't like anymore. Oh, no I want to play I just want to play that like if no one is making that a me
Starting point is 00:45:36 It's one of my it's so good. So you see him at his desk and he is getting ready It looks like he's getting ready to masturbate ultimately. He has his pants off. It is fully. With slippers on. It's a full masturbation allegory because it really is. The thing comes down and he's like, oh yeah. He checks it no one.
Starting point is 00:45:56 He checks it no one's there and then this is what happens. He takes out his ammo control. Oh no! Oh no! Catch your bare heart with this big crush! I was happy. I was happy. I was happy.
Starting point is 00:46:21 I was happy. I was happy. I was happy. I was happy. I was happy. It's such a good scene. It's really, I was happy. It's so pretty. It's so pretty. It's so pretty. It's perfect. I want to play almost every one of his scenes, because he's also dressed in a way that I'm like,
Starting point is 00:46:33 what era is he from? Oh yeah. He's wearing almost like a zoot suit. Yeah. He's dressed like he's a gangster from the 40s. Yeah. From the 30s, you know. It's a gangster from the 40s, from the 30s. You know, it's a bizarre, but again, it's Christopher Walken who is the most compelling person to watch on screen.
Starting point is 00:46:53 And what is happening at the country bear hall? Nothing. Nothing. They're giving tours for 25 cents. Oh, yeah, that's right. So by the way, I would like to just point out one thing, June and I did a show called NTSF SD SUV. We used Country Bear Hall as one of our big sets in our show where we go back to Alaska,
Starting point is 00:47:12 Alphonse, one of our characters in the show is an Alaskan special agent. And this is his home base station, Stephen Williams-Less's boss. And when we went there and shot, all the memorabilia from the country bear's movie is still up on the walls so we'd have to carefully shoot in a way that you wouldn't see bears playing the drums
Starting point is 00:47:34 because all the pictures are bears playing instruments like all the cages are exactly the same like the ticket-ticker cage and stuff like that. I love that. I wish that I did any sneak through. I would love that. No, we covered a lot of stuff because I guess in their mind, they're like we need to keep this standing. We need to come back to it because of the sequels.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Why in there you guys, we've been into that place. That's so cool. Why in the country bears banned is everybody a bear but the drummer. The drummer is MC Gaming. Right. Who is living in the tour bus. Yes.
Starting point is 00:48:13 He said he raised his children in the tour bus. He did say he raised his children in the tour bus. But yet he's, but the tour bus has been like in the barn, I think, for years collecting dust. So I don't know what that story is. But I didn't understand why, if you're gonna have a bear playing a mandolin, have a bear play drums. I'm so upset I just did a movie with MC Gainey
Starting point is 00:48:36 and the fact that I couldn't talk to him about this movie in great detail really bums me out. We talked about a lot of stuff. And this would have been, cause it would have been amazing. Because first of all, can you imagine his life many days on set was him alone and a bunch of people in bare suits.
Starting point is 00:48:53 And not hearing dialogues. All you would be hearing is grinding of gears like, rrrr, rrrr, rrrr, rrrr, rrrr, rrrr, because this movie is completely dubbed. It has to be. Oh, if you listen to that Christopher Walken scene again. Yeah. Christopher Walken's dialogue is all captured live. And the bears all sounds like canned and from a studio.
Starting point is 00:49:10 Yeah. It is audio wise, it's so jarring. So. But the chicken turned out to be a female chicken. Yeah. So that's important and comedy, sure. And by the way, we talked about a bunch of the great cameos. I thought Barbara Bush was great in this movie.
Starting point is 00:49:26 She was like that small part in the country club. Wow. Just I thought she was great. What? She was really good. Oh, right. Yeah. She's not with us anymore, but.
Starting point is 00:49:36 Oh. That was on Bear's Line. Just want to clear some comments I made about this bear's real bears before in deaths recent deaths of people by bears in no way do I blame the bears Okay, sure this goes back to your mouth. He stands. Yeah, I just want to say Bears are just being bears always mean, but by the way, this is a June state This movie should make you feel very happy because you've talked about not using animals
Starting point is 00:50:05 against their will to be stars of films. This is not using animals against their will. Chicken. Oh, chicken. But at least the chicken was in the star. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, the chicken was there for maybe a day. No, two days maybe.
Starting point is 00:50:20 Two days? Two days of work? Yeah, chicken was there quite a bit. The trainer was there every day just to make sure that he was coaching the chicken the right way. Make sure the chicken would be able to. I thought the chicken made a couple choices that were good, but otherwise like give a pretty weak performance.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Before we get, I just thought he was like, oftentimes acting really scared. She, please, she. She was acting really scared like a chicken. Well, obviously we had some opinions about this movie, but there are people out there with a different opinions. It's now time for second opinions. So movie was a piece of shit Yet this person recommends it Tell me what is the message
Starting point is 00:51:12 Maybe that art is subjective I need a second opinion Alright, it's now time for second opinions These are five star reviews, called from Amazon.com. There are 178 total reviews for the film. There is 71% are five star reviews, 71%. That's a very high mark. This first one's from Andrew Aceves,
Starting point is 00:51:39 and he writes this. It doesn't follow the music or the style of the old Disney attraction, but the old Disney Land show was stupid. I can't imagine sitting through a stretched out version of the Disney show. It would never work. As a standalone movie, this was really good.
Starting point is 00:51:58 John Hyatt wrote and performed most of the bear songs, and they were honest and straightforward, really, really good music. They had to be aging 70 rockers in order for the script to work. I liked it. I would watch it over and over again with my kids. Think almost famous but with bears. Five stars. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:52:17 I would love it if it was more almost famous. I would love it if the bears were like a bear journalist. Yeah, and it was like, yeah, if the Haley Jalazza bear was a bear journalist, and that they were like, not that they were like big rockers. Yeah. They're jumping off the house. What would be interesting to me,
Starting point is 00:52:34 like I would have loved to have seen a movie where these bears are actually living just at this country bear hall, and then have to go on the road and tour in the real world. It's the monkeys with bears. That's exactly. Yes, but not if the monkeys were monkeys.
Starting point is 00:52:50 If the monkeys were monkeys, it's the monkeys were bears, but we're monkeys. Right. Exactly. We did more bears. Sides. Yeah, I mean, there's so much comedy there in just seeing these bears interact with the real world. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Like the funniest. The funniest, funniest, f**king minute ever. Paul, do you have my five star review in there? Yeah, there's a couple. You wrote a lot. You were a QA for 40% of these five servers. This one is one of my favorite reviews. I have read this is from Skick and the title is Clean and the review is simply this. I got this from my 74-year-old mama. She loves it. She is happy. I don't like the use of the word mama. So I am happy. Wish I could find one that would work the same for my wife in joy. Oh, five stars. Wow. This one's from Willie Frazier, and it's Country Beard past. Country Bears is a movie every home TV should have
Starting point is 00:53:53 for Friday night, family night, five stars. Woof. Every Friday night you'd be watching this? Every Friday night? Can you imagine meeting someone and being like, what was your childhood like? Oh, you know, I've been pretty normal. Like, you know, grew up, couple siblings, you know, suburban American, small town. Every Friday night we'd stay in, cook dinner, watch country bears.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Yeah. What? Sorry. Hey, we wanted my favorite movie, Country Bears. We watch it every Friday night. I'll end here with this one from Melissa Recart. She writes, my daughter loves this movie, and so does my boyfriend, and so do I. Five stars. Wow. People love the country sensibility of this movie. People get it, we clearly didn't. Those human eyes looking back at you.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Oh, I don't like those eyes. I do not like those eyes. Anyone want to take a guess on the... Like the tagline? Oh. The tagline? Yeah. It's gotta have bear.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Of course. Country bears bear, bear, bear, bear, bear, bear, bear, bear, bear, bear, bear, bear, bear, bear, bear, bear, bear, it's good, I like it. Very good time. Oh, really good cool up. I really like that.
Starting point is 00:55:04 So I like her cool up. Anyone else want to take a shot? Anyone to take a shot? There's two. One great, one not so hot. Ferociously funny. Well, I like that tune. That's good.
Starting point is 00:55:15 I love that you went off the bear track. Ferocious as of there. So there is one moment, not to... Yeah, you can. There's one moment in the diner where one of them does grow At the other one right, but it's to bear to bear it's yeah, it's a bear to bear in track It's not bear to human, but it still seems like oh wow. They still have those bear instincts Hmm, okay, the tagline of the movie their legends
Starting point is 00:55:45 Barely Okay, the tagline of the movie their legends barely Okay, and then that's followed by the other one. It's a bear getting the family together And by the way, yeah, there that one I think the word bear would be used in the tagline after country bears Country bears their legends barely these fucking maniacs. I'm surprised there's only one. You're right. You're right. You're right. 35 million.
Starting point is 00:56:12 Opening weekend. I have millions. 32. In 2002. Budget 35, opening weekend. 5 million. Worldwide, gross 18 million. The top three movies of 2002
Starting point is 00:56:25 Spider-Man Lord of the Rings to two towers Star Wars episode two attack of the clones and this movie came in 116th of all the movies in 2002. It was beaten by triple X and crossroads and this movie beat Jason X and the adventures of Pluto Nash. How is it that these are all movies that came out the same year? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:56:45 They seem like they're from different eras. By the way, before we wrap it up with the final thoughts, I just wanted to point out one thing, their escape in the car wash was not a good plan because it only was a good plan because the cops got out of their car in the car wash. Why did the cops get out of the car? No reason too. I think they were looking for the bears. But the bears had to...
Starting point is 00:57:14 I mean, ahead of them in the car wash. Or why did they just drive to the front of the car wash? Yeah, I saw. Because the problem is once your car gets locked in, your wheels get locked into that motor, you actually cannot try it forward. I want to ask you guys a question. And I don't want to bring up anything, whatever, but if for some horrible reason, one of your
Starting point is 00:57:37 children were to go missing. And these two police officers, Cameron She Sheetz. Kamen Sheetz. Would you feel them capable of finding a child? Would you believe in their abilities to find your child? Did it seem to you? Like Steven Tobelowski and his family were doing everything they could do to find their fourth grade son. 10-year-old son. 10-year-old son.
Starting point is 00:58:03 And let's just be call spade a spade and say that one of them is clearly wearing a fake mustache, which is revealed to be a fake mustache. Yes. So it wasn't even like a movie choice. It was a comedy choice. Yes. Yes. That's true.
Starting point is 00:58:17 Are these men that you would let? I June always says, you know, she's kind of like, you know, she's, she kind of, it's a bad cop, I'm the good cop. So I would probably be very open to them and try to and appreciate them. I'd be baking for them and giving them some nice food. And June, what would you? It's hard. I pay my taxes.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Of course you do. You know, I like to believe that that money is going towards city services. Would you be shocked to find out some of it's going to mustaches? Some of it's going to comedy mustaches. Special case where the mustaches are in case. Multiple mustaches. And again, we're not that way. And I just want you to not put you on spot.
Starting point is 00:58:54 It's not about the police force. It's about ham and cheese. You could request maybe another. Oh, there. I'm certain. No, I think the bigger point is like, do you believe in the systems in place? Why are they the only two people? Why are there the only two people looking for a missing fourth grader? I mean, I have to suppose that the police force has some sort of training that they're vetting these guys before they're able to put on a uniform.
Starting point is 00:59:22 Would it be local police, too, to do a kid, or run away, I guess, run away? I don't mean it felt like it's a cross state line. Yeah, it did feel. It also might have been local. We don't know. They, the police get, again, they're in the diner with them. They're in his home. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:37 At the end of the day. But that was the first after he's crossed a line. The first time this kid who's obsessed with the country bears, that's the first time he went to the hall. If it's just the next town over. I mean, it's, and apparently, I mean, if you can walk to it, why take the bus there in the first place, which leads me to believe that MC Gainey's a very bad driver who doesn't understand how to navigate around. I can believe that.
Starting point is 00:59:58 I mean, I'd like to believe that I would, as a parent, also take to the streets. I believe that you would. Oh, yes. Even to the last days. They did not appear as though they did. They the streets. I believe I know. Oh, yes, given to the streets. It did not appear as though they did. It did not appear as though they did. They were literally chilling at home. Yeah. And Dex had all the answers.
Starting point is 01:00:12 I really feel bad for Dex. And even though we had that horrible hair, which we, you know, frosted tips. Frosted tips was the night. I think he was 2000 and two. We'll frosted tips come back. We'll and two will frosted Really all come back? Will spiky frosted tips guys. He's a shaved bear, okay? He's an old a shaved bear. I felt this way looking at that singer too crystal hairs wrote a reading minutes that There there was something about the early 2000s and late 90s where it was like we were trying to make people unattractive
Starting point is 01:00:44 Yeah,, and succeeding. Yes, like the goal was like let's take an attractive body. And give it severe angles. And just add severe angles. Yeah, like just really low genes. Yeah, let's just organize this. But like, we big like but floods. Weird, no flooddreather. Belle, but floods. Weird. No floods, rather.
Starting point is 01:01:05 A bell, like they were very wide. Yeah, you know. Let's take a nice figure and put clothes on it that make no sense. Look, no further than Justin Timberlake to see how, how easy you could make a person who is attractive. But because there are other errors, like the 60s, the 70s, you couldn't go wrong with putting clothes on people.
Starting point is 01:01:29 And something not there. Even stuff that feels dated or feels whatever still works for those people's bodies at that time. That's a lie. It makes sense. Your eyes can rest upon. Yes, the late ear right, the late 90s and early 2000s are a
Starting point is 01:01:54 Hodgepodge of nonsense, but by the way, I believe now that style to be coming back in full force. I know. That's really it's like it's really weird. You see it presenting. Here's the one that I've seen now repeated again. You know how you feel about high-waisted jeans on women, but I understand I understand the concept of highways to jeans right now I bet I haven't noticed I haven't noticed I don't look One of the looks that has come back recently that I've noticed which I believe my theory is that this look has returned Because young people are watching friends on Netflix. Yes, and the look is a young people are watching Friends on Netflix. Yes. And the look is a sundress with a white t-shirt underneath. Yes, underneath.
Starting point is 01:02:29 That's that look coming down. They've been telling me, bunched up, ill-fitting white shirt underneath a light sundress. It is preposterous. It's crazy. It makes no, you don't understand is in the back, the shirt's all bunched up and doesn't, it's not good. It looks good on camera.
Starting point is 01:02:49 No, no, when people are wearing it out in the world, I feel like they're like, dude, dude, dude. Well, that's it, I do it. I wore that look. Sure, everybody did. Can we close the picture to that? Contemporary casuals, June. Contemporary casuals and I wore it with Doc Martens.
Starting point is 01:03:01 Great. And I wore my hair and like, two, two, like, buns on the side. And I wore it with Doc Martens. Thank you. And I wore my hair and like two, two like buns on the side. And I wore brown lipstick. The color is the name of my, yes. Yes, I did that. I did that. I did coffee bean. I did coffee bean.
Starting point is 01:03:15 Of course I did that. Who did you, was there a lip liner? Or Revlon coffee bean, whatever. Revlon is brown. I was at a brown lipstick. Brown lipstick. Yes. Sometimes I would do lip liner and I would do no fill in. Can you imagine? Can you imagine brown lipstick happening right now? Brown lipstick of Yeah, sometimes I would do lip liner. Can you imagine?
Starting point is 01:03:25 Can you imagine brown lipstick happening right now? Brown lipstick of white women is so bad. It literally looks like you've dipped your lips and shit. And then presented that. So in this instance, the person has dipped their lips in shit. Yeah, they've not eaten shit. They're not in shit. They're not in shit.
Starting point is 01:03:50 They're not in shit. They're lady. They're lady. They've liquefied it. And they're just dipping their lips ever so gently in this shit. Oh. Oh. Dip in their lips in a g-pop.
Starting point is 01:04:02 Well, how do you guys feel now that the, with that in mind, overalls are back. Oh, 100% on board. All right. I love them. Really? I love overalls. Would you wear overalls to me? Oh, no, but I find women in overalls
Starting point is 01:04:16 and I'm going now jumping, I'm jumping back because this is an aesthetic. This was a style that I, like when I was in college, girls were overalls. over I totally I loved it It has like a tomboyish kind of it's like Mary Stewart Masterson and some kind of wonderful Not me. Yeah. Yeah. That's who it is right. There's a bunch of like those that I'm like, oh, I love that that works for me I mean, I also like little kids and overalls to we have like Paul I love kids and overalls there's another look that's going back
Starting point is 01:04:48 Yeah, and I think this is because of friends the baggy jeans Yes, I have a waistline night is neither high nor low, but sort of in between a big black belt Mm-hmm and Doc Martens Doc Martens are fully back and then a funnel like just wrapped around Yeah, yeah, that's very like Chloe Kardashian and then a white tea. Yes. It's not an attractive look. Guys, if I really got into it, we really got into it.
Starting point is 01:05:14 I'm so out of it. I'm going to have to have an app. I'm going to give you what is this? Are we still recording? Like you were not surprised me to look down and notice that we were at lunch. Is this still a podcast? Oh.
Starting point is 01:05:32 If I told you this movie ended with Christopher Walken putting his hand on his arm and making fart noises, would you have believed me at the beginning of this film? And I think this movie has like four or five solid jokes and that end performance of him on farting. I did not see it coming you guys. Oh, I did not understand that that was the villain. I was lost in the narrative. And the fact that he committed so hard,
Starting point is 01:05:58 I'm sure you only did like one or two takes, but he did it when he unbuttoned his shirt. I thought he was gonna have a tattoo since like I'm the number one country bear fan. I thought he was gonna have a tattoo since like, I'm the number one country bear fan. That was gonna be a bear. Yeah. And no. A shade bear.
Starting point is 01:06:10 He was gonna full hair, full firm. That was amazing. It was interesting. He was wearing a t-shirt under his shirt, so there's no way he could've been making those farts out. Well, he's really really good for me. Very good. He was excellent.
Starting point is 01:06:24 He was excellent. Jason, would you recommend this really for me very good. He was excellent. He was excellent. He was great Uh Jason would you recommend this movie? No, no, I mean watch like 20 minutes of it just to be like oh What the fuck is happening by then you'll have come so you can go to bed. Oh please watch that oh No, scene. I think that's one of my favorites. Cool up. Oh, would you recommend it? And then no And 88 minutes you even feel it's too long Yeah, yeah, I would have loved it in shape 10 off. June, I know you went into this movie with negative thoughts. What do you think now? Would you recommend this movie? No, of course not. I really struggled with the time. 88 minutes.
Starting point is 01:07:01 I kept on stopping it and looking and we took a big break in the middle of it. And Paul, would you recommend this? We'll be probably not. No, it's not. But as a shavin bear? As a shavin bear, we didn't get to the issues that are out in the public. We need to say, stop shaving yourself to fit in. Be the bear that you are.
Starting point is 01:07:25 Yeah, be that bear. Man alive, I am so upset. One thing I did notice, I'll make this movie is an allegory for like the gay bear movement. Is this, is that? That's interesting. No, not movement, but like for men who identify
Starting point is 01:07:42 as bears in the gay community. Did this movie start the gay bear? I don't think so. I think bears have been, I think that's been a descriptor for a long time. Alright, cool up. Your movie origin story is available right now on Amazon Prime. It has been amazing to watch this film from its inception to where it is now. Can you tell people about the movie?
Starting point is 01:08:04 And you know, we know we talked about it briefly at the top, but just tell us a little bit about it. It's been a five-year journey. It's autobiographical, and it's me finally, after 20 years, starting to ask the question of who, and where, and whom do I come from. Because I found out when I was 14 that my dad wasn't my real dad in a really
Starting point is 01:08:25 horrible way. And it takes me from here in LA, not with Jason, but he's not part of that. But again, we're talking about sequels. There is an not a possibility. Like this scene, we could be recreating the country bear fashion conversation. That could be a great scene in the movie. How many bears are in the movie? Just the one. There is a bear. And it was just because he does my hair and it's a bear. Oh, a bear bear? It's a bear bear.
Starting point is 01:08:51 Oh, okay good. Hopefully there is a bear bear. And it's a bear. Yeah, and then it takes me to Minnesota. No bears there. And then all of the bears are in Laos where I meet my father. Leotian bears. That's right, sun bears.
Starting point is 01:09:04 This movie, while it does lack bears and country bears, is just incredibly well done. It's really beautiful and it's so impressive and such a unique story. It's just awesome and it's been amazing to see all these festivals and the accolades that you've been getting for. I think you will really enjoy it if you see this film. Yes, I would encourage everybody to see it today on Amazon because it's incredible and it's so timely I think and it's just an unbelievably well done documentary. It is you are now in a position to turn off this podcast,
Starting point is 01:09:48 now that you've listened to it, and literally turn on your phone or your computer, get on Amazon, watch this movie, take footage of me in other movies, edit it into this movie. Please put TikTok man into or should try. And let's get this to the point. And this is from the Hollywood Reporter.
Starting point is 01:10:05 It says, cool up takes the Barry Barrington journey as she tries to find out who her real father is. Yeah, and that's fire. And that's really beautiful review from the Hollywood Reporter. Like a modern day Barry Barrington. Yeah. You know, it's sort of like that whole idea,
Starting point is 01:10:22 you know, everything the power of myth, Joseph Campbell wrote about the Barry Burrington Yep, and how you have to Yes, we always are looking for that very very good journey Who's in the mirror Barry Burrington? It's so great. So check out origin story on Amazon Prime video right now Thanks guys. All right now Jason man Manzucas, that's me. What do you want to put?
Starting point is 01:10:47 So if you're hearing this, I am still in John Wick 3, John Wick chapter 3, Parabellum. Please go check that out if you haven't already. And then what else? I did an episode of one of my very favorite podcasts called Binge Mode Recently. It is very fun talking my Game of Thrones and Harry Potter, two of my favorite things to talk about. And then there's a band I would like to say that for me,
Starting point is 01:11:18 the song of the summer is Manic and Pussy's Drunk 2. It is a great song, it is an amazing and Pussy's Drunk 2. It is a great song. It is an amazing and themic breakup song. And I would just like to encourage everybody to crank it while their windows are down and they're driving through town. How wonderful. I don't know if Long Drop will still be in the theaters
Starting point is 01:11:39 by the time this episode drops, but if it is, you should definitely check it out. I'm in that movie with... As is Paul. Yes. Yes. Am I in it? And I'm on Seth Rogen. Jason, you are not in David. So I'm not in that and I'm not in origins too. Not in origins for me. These are empirical truths. So I just want to make sure that because a lot of the listeners are keeping track of what
Starting point is 01:11:59 movies I'm not in and what I'm in. And then I also have a book coming out that I co-wrote, called, Represent the Women's Guide to running for office and changing the world Cool up is definitely referenced in one of the Dedications and and so it's Paul Jason is not not reference in the movie at all club was one of the early readers and Paul Was too, but I guess Jason. Yeah, well, I can't read So I don't mind this one this one one, I mean, it stings. Yeah, right. But I get it.
Starting point is 01:12:30 You understand. It's not your medium. No, no, no. It's just how could you say? I'll look in the page for the Zs. Because I know what a Z looks like. So when I see the Z, then I'm like, that's probably me. Oh, but I'm just gonna let you know right now
Starting point is 01:12:42 that your name definitely doesn't come up anywhere. Okay. But the book is available for pre-order right now, also on Amazon or even better your independent local book. And I don't want, I want to encourage, I want to specifically state that I don't think people should boycott the book because I'm not in it. Right. I think in fact, I think think in fact they should get it
Starting point is 01:13:06 And write my name into it Wow, all right, we can do that you can do it. You should the book is a workbook so you could put Jason Yeah, there's an audio book so an audio book. I'd love to read a chapter in the audio book great great You could definitely check out the Cosmic Ghostwriter destroys Marvel history, which is currently on stands and you can watch a black Monday all now in demand or If you're in the UK or Italy or even in the armed forces black Monday is now playing on your local TV's on sky Atlantic and the armed forces Network all right a big thank you to Nick Kylie for the research, Devon engineering,
Starting point is 01:13:49 the hell out of this, our producers Cody and Avril, and everybody here at Irwolf, we will see you next week for a mini episode if there's anything that we missed, anything that we didn't talk about, give us a call at 619-PAUL-ASK. I'll answer your questions about your life, your problems and this film,
Starting point is 01:14:06 and we will talk about this and more next week on How To Disget Made. Many episodes. See you then. Bye-bye. you

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