How Did This Get Made? - Matinee Monday: The Hottie and the Nottie LIVE!

Episode Date: April 15, 2024

Paul, June, and Jason get into the 2008 Paris Hilton vehicle The Hottie and the Nottie—a rom-com where everyone in the movie is a psychopath or a stalker. LIVE from Charleston, South Carolina, they ...discuss June auditioning to play the Nottie, the earth suits scene, the realistic pooping, the many upsetting and inappropriate decisions in the movie, and so much more. Plus, in a rare occurrence Jason accepts that a Jacob’s Ladder Scenario twist might actually make sense here. (Originally Released 08/29/2019) Go to hdtgm.com for tour dates, merch, and more.Pre-Order Paul’s book about his childhood, Joyful Recollections of Trauma, wherever books are soldFor extra Matinee Monday content, visit Paul's YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheerHDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheerFollow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer/Check out Paul and Rob Huebel live on Twitch (www.twitch.tv/friendzone) every Thursday 8-10pm ESTSubscribe to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson here: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael here: www.thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcastCheck out The Jane Club over at www.janeclub.comCheck out new HDTGM merch over at https://www.teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmWhere to find Jason, June & Paul:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on Twitter

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Starting point is 00:00:00 A movie that proves that beauty is only skin deep. Just kidding. Ugly people deserve nothing. They're gross. We saw the hottie and the naughty, so you know what that means. Now it's time for Powerful Tramp. What's up, church? H-G-D-T-G-M. Powerful Tramp, get in line. Powerful Tramp, get in line.
Starting point is 00:00:30 Hey, everybody. Now it's time for Powerful Tramp. What's up, church? H-G-D-T-G-M. Powerful Tramp, get in line. I am Shiloh Faddam. Hi, everybody. Hey, everybody.
Starting point is 00:00:42 Now it's time for Sofie and Jimmy. Hello, people of Earth, and hello, people of Charleston, South Carolina! We are so excited to be with you tonight. Holy cow, this movie, if you've not seen it, it's one of Paris Hilton's finer films It's a love story akin to the notebook Basically a young boy. He has a crush on his first grade crush
Starting point is 00:01:17 20 years later. He goes back to find her and She has an ugly friend anyway. we'll get into it all, but to break it down properly, we're gonna do it with my two co-hosts. Please welcome to the stage Mr. Jason Manzoukas. Oh! What's up jerks? Woo! How we doing Charleston? That's right.
Starting point is 00:01:53 This city is hot. Oh, holy shit. You guys don't fuck around with humidity. This is a polite city. This is a polite city. This is a polite city. You know how I know? I passed a lovely couple earlier and the woman just said, Geostorm.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Wow. Polite, polite, respectful, kept on walking. I loved it. I loved it. Jason, the hottie and the naughty, you own this, right? Here's the thing. Did I write this movie? No. Would I write this movie? Of course not. But I'm so glad it was written and made. This movie was trash times a million. This is a movie that feels as though while they were shooting one of Paris Hilton's Carl's Jr. ads, lightning struck and instead a movie was born.
Starting point is 00:02:57 I would argue there is more artistry in that Carl's Jr. ad than there is in this film. There's certainly more sexual chemistry between Paris Hilton and that cheeseburger. How dare you, Jason, how dare you. Than any of the men in this movie. I would rather, I would rather watch Paris Hilton straight up fuck a cheeseburger than watch her kiss anybody in this movie.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Come on! This was, this, there is, most of this movie amounts to a crime being committed by everybody. Well, let's hold our thought right there because there's someone else I'd like to introduce you to. She is our other co-host. Please welcome Miss June Diane Raphael. right there because there's someone else I'd like to introduce you to. She is our other co-host. Please welcome Miss June Diane Raphael. Hello. Welcome, June. Hi, Paul. How are you? I'm good.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Thank you for asking. June, your thoughts on the hottie and the naughty. So, just off the bat, I feel I have to say, I auditioned for the role of the naughty. No! Yes. No! Yes. Huge reveal!
Starting point is 00:04:35 By the way, We Are Married did not know that until right now. Whoa! Wow. Yeah, did not get it. You didn't. I didn't get it. Because I noticed obviously it was a lot of makeup and so forth. So that wasn't you?
Starting point is 00:05:03 Oh, you thought that was me? I didn't know until just now. Yeah, no, that wasn't me. That was a different actress. Got it. Got it. And I remember, because I have such a memory of when the email came in, seeing the subject line, the hottie and the naughty,
Starting point is 00:05:16 roll June and thinking, do I have this? Like, is this? Did they write it for you? Yeah. Did they write it for me? That is a little known secret in Hollywood. When they name the character after you, you automatically get it.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Yeah. And so I remember, I have a memory of, because it was one of my first auditions, seeing it and thinking, I've been offered a major motion picture. Like, I have arrived in this industry and it's about time. A Paris Hilton joint. You get the offer. When do you read the script? Would you read the science?
Starting point is 00:05:52 I don't think I read the script. I don't think they released the script. Oh yeah, you got to keep this under wraps. You got to keep this under wraps. You can't let this be getting out there. Yeah, you cannot reveal the plot points. This is Avengers end game level secrecy going on here. The reason why they only shot this movie a block around the Santa Monica Pier. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:13 The only location in this movie is the pier and literally the houses to the left and right hand side of it. And there is like no background. There is nothing. They exist in a vacuum basically. It's, if you told me this movie took place in like the afterlife, I guess I would believe you. When they have that picnic, they pull out for a wide shot. They're the only two people there. It is as if the apocalypse has happened
Starting point is 00:06:39 and these are literally the last two people on earth. Oh, I wish. So Jun Di, do you go in to audition? Well, so I remember seeing that I wasn't being offered it, that it was an audition. By the way, it was 10 years ago. That's a pretty bold thing that you thought you were going to just get an offer.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Also, listen, I don't know how Hollywood works at that point. So I was so excited, and then I saw that I had to audition. And then I saw the role was described, I wish I could find the email. It was described as like human garbage, like garbage in human form. Like this woman is so disgusting. And it hurt that I was being considered.
Starting point is 00:07:24 At that point, were you like glad you didn't get the offer? Because then at least they're tacitly saying, can you prove your garbage? Rather than we've decided your garbage so much so, we're gonna offer you the part because obviously, right? I remember reading the entire paragraph describing June and at the end it said something like, comedic. And I was like, I'll be there.
Starting point is 00:07:48 When do I need to go? If you had told, one of the most shocking components of this movie was that it was only 10 years ago. If you had told me this movie was 25 years, this movie felt like it was from 20 years ago or more. I was shocked that it was as recent as it was because of how insane it is. It doesn't posit any sort of positive role model, moral or anything.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Like the takeaway from this movie is bad. Oh yeah. Oh it is like a romantic comedy if being like a stalker was the only way to find love. Like, it's a romantic comedy for the criminally insane. I will even go one step further and go, everyone in this movie is a straight up psychopath. Yes. Like, they all belong in some sort of institution, not the same, but different institutions, each where they're all heavily medicated
Starting point is 00:08:47 for their own things. So let's say, like, When Harry Met Sally is a great romantic comedy. Can we all agree on that? Right? Yeah. Okay, now you've got Billy Crystal and Meg Ryan. Now they represent these two big characters,
Starting point is 00:09:00 da, da, da, but then you've got Carrie Fisher and Bruno Kirby. You've got people there grounding the world. Every single other person in this movie is straight crazy. But can we even just go back to the whole premise of this movie is here's a man that has not been able to fall in love because of his crush in first grade.
Starting point is 00:09:26 I can't tell you anything about my first grade students I was with. I can maybe tell you my teacher's name. They didn't even have a friendship. Yeah. He just, it was an unrequited crush. It wasn't even like I can't get over my high school girlfriend, right?
Starting point is 00:09:46 Maybe I could get on board for a movie in which you felt like... But he saw her, she did not choose him or whatever. They didn't have any kind of like friendship or anything to first grade. But he then decides that his failure at love means he has to go back, hunt her down like she's big game, tackle her on the boardwalk, like he physically tackles every single character in the movie.
Starting point is 00:10:15 And physically assault every woman in the movie. I wrote down, why is everyone flying at each other? There's more wire work in this movie than the matrix But the thing that is so troubling is what so when so this crush happened when he was in first grade Yes, he then I think moves away or maybe here. Okay, I mean I'm like I love me by the way that was not main By the way, that was not Maine. But he's been carrying around... Somebody put a blue filter on an LA scene.
Starting point is 00:10:47 For sure. But he's been carrying around... Now I know he was a child too, but he's been carrying around a photograph of her. From first grade. This man should be arrested. This man is unwell and should be arrested. Because if you think, if any of you dummies think this guy isn't jerking off to that picture of that little girl, you're out of your mind. Disgusting.
Starting point is 00:11:14 You're out of your goddamn mind, South Carolina. Why else would you keep it? Why else would you keep it on the top of your drawer. And then he goes back home to his friend who's a billion times worse of a stalker than he is. So he enlists the help of, I don't know, a true monster whose mother is facilitated. She should also be arrested. By the way, that mother should be locked up.
Starting point is 00:11:44 That mother, and all the time with like exercise video television in that house? June, were you upset when you saw that picture in the drawer? Because I know that it really rubbed me the wrong way. I could literally put me at a distance from liking this character. Well, yes, that's the appropriate response, Paul. That is the appropriate response. The friend says, he has a line where he says,
Starting point is 00:12:15 she's been getting hotter and hotter from first grade on. There are things, okay, and I do think the writers should be jailed. The director should be jailed. These are not, I'm dead serious. These are people, it is not safe to bring your children around them. Lock them up. To be clear, to be clear, this is only 10 years ago.
Starting point is 00:12:39 It's only 10 years ago that so many hundreds of people looked at this and said yes yes you know what yes yes Paris Hilton yes millions of dollars yes yes yes yes yes let June Diane Rafeal audition yes now can I just say the thing that is even more disturbing yes we can all agree the picture is disturbing don't say her teeth No, I mean we even gotten into the the naughty or as one character calls it the naughty No, I was like it's naughty not naughty He what's this man that that one guy called it like the naughty like he was saying it differently right you mean like any Ghty not yeah, but you're not going to you got to get by the naughty the no
Starting point is 00:13:31 Oh, yes, you also audition for this movie These motherfuckers let me tell you When I go in to perform I bring my all I asked him do you want me to sit too much hand work too much hand work I? I bring my all. I ask him, do you want me to sit? Do you want me to stand? Too much hand work. Too much hand work. No, if I was to audition, I'm sure I would have gotten the guy who was the Star Trek guy.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Okay, just staying on some of the beginning scenes where they are in flashback and we are seeing the hottie and the naughty. Horse noise. Okay, June Fig as a child, the closeups of that child. This is what I found so confusing about the movie. If I were to see that child, I would think there's been some major neglect. Yes, or abuse.
Starting point is 00:14:18 Abuse. Yeah, she- Something terrible has happened, and an adult, sane, well-rounded adult needs to intervene. We have a situation here. Agree? A child... This is Los Angeles.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Yes. A child has, I think, a bloody nose. No, it's like crusted up nose. It's like a crusted up nose. It's like a crusted up nose. The naughty looked like halfway between someone who was homeless and addicted to meth, but yet five years old. Here's what it would be like. It would be as if at the beginning of the movie, during that scene, the teacher had said, Hey class, we have a new student. It is someone that has been found as a feral child. Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Living in the woods in Russia. And we have now given her an opportunity to go to school with you. Her parents lived through Chernobyl. The mother was pregnant and this is what we got. And immediately the teacher would then take a tissue and be like, Oh, don't worry, sweetie. I've got that. But no, this girl's allowed to sit in
Starting point is 00:15:27 what is ostensibly insane conditions physically. But again, I want to talk, before we get into the naughty, I just want to say the thing that disturbs you the most is the hottie, Paris Hilton, Christabel, I want to use her god given name, Christabel. She- There is no god She She has no personality
Starting point is 00:15:55 whatsoever like She doesn't even have like I can't as a child. She doesn't even have lines She doesn't have any kind of demonstrative action. But I would actually argue that the naughty suffers from the same thing. Beyond being ugly, she also really doesn't have a personality. Nor does the lead guy either, right?
Starting point is 00:16:18 I mean, we're in a world where the mom who watches exercise videos probably has the most personality. I would so much rather have watched a movie about that mother. A hundred percent. Because you know she's fucking that son. You know that's what's up. You know. Why else is he still living there?
Starting point is 00:16:42 The scene of them as kids though, you would think it would set up a dynamic that would feel unfinished. You know, for a movie like this, you know, a movie like this usually sets up some sort of unfinished business, something to remain unrequited. But that's not what it is. What possibly could be unfinished between first graders? That's a good point. Because even sexualizing first graders is a reach.
Starting point is 00:17:09 To be like, in first grade I was in love. Where the fuck are you? That means you're like what, six or seven? Like yeah, that's no. No, no, no, no, no. You could be like, I remember I had a He-Man figure when I was six or seven. You weren't like, I found true love and I've stunted my growth for 20-
Starting point is 00:17:29 Paul, were you in love with a He-Man figure? When you punched his chest, it would get battle damage. It was really cool. Are we to believe that he can't have a functioning relationship because he is still so obsessed with a seven year old. That's what the scene with Jane. Why if you have a June do you write a Jane? This is confusing. This is confusing. So in Maine there's a Jane. Oh, the main Jane. So in Maine, there's a Jane, okay?
Starting point is 00:18:05 And you cut, so when you cut to the, what's his name, what's the boy's name? Don't know. Nate. When you cut to Nate, when you cut to Nate as an adult in Maine, he is playing guitar for his girlfriend Jane, so he's able to have a relationship.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Is that his job? Would you like to? No, that's his job. And where is his income coming from? Jane, I mean, here's the thing. He has no job. She has written loser on his car. She is framed as crazy, but he is trash.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Well, can we play that song? Why can't she be right? Like, why does she have to be framed as an insane person who then breaks the guitar over his head and runs him over with a car? Funny scene. The guitar breaking over his head, I was like, of all, like, if you gave me multiple choice,
Starting point is 00:18:59 like, where does this scene go? I wouldn't be like, she breaks the guitar over his head. That seems insane. Let's listen to the song though, because it's a beautiful song. And it really does come back later in the movie. She cries at commercials by AT&T. She sobs at the videos on MTV. But she says it's got nothing to do with me. She's just an emotional girl.
Starting point is 00:19:27 I liked her. She whips off my suits and cuts off the sleeves and shaves my head while I'm fast asleep. Sometimes I feel she's the princess and I'm just a feel. She's just an emotional girl. It's fine you're just an, you want the guitar? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, It's Maine, baby. It's Maine. And why would that song be appropriate? I don't know. Like, I want to believe, I want to live in a world in which Jane, who he's dating here, can understand, like, why is she still with this guy if she's behaving? Because, as an audience, we have to, we are put in a position where we have to sympathize with him.
Starting point is 00:20:23 And it's absurd. I guess, yeah. But we are put in the very uncomfortable position of having to get on board with him early in the movie so that when he humiliates this woman and calls her ugly and reacts to her in such an outlandish way, so many times we can understand him and align ourselves with him as an audience. And his dream to just get the hot girl, like none of it, it's like, it's not doing any of the correct work to get him there.
Starting point is 00:20:56 No, not at all. You know what I mean? Like shh. Yeah, I hear what you're saying and I agree with everything. But again, they go out of their way to make him unlikable because when he does meet Paris Hilton, the first move is to sniff her hair? To sniff her hair? While she's running? Do you know how hard it is to sniff someone while they're running?
Starting point is 00:21:19 Hear me out. The year, 1980. The lady, Jackie Joyner-Kersey. The Olympics. Was I on the field? Yes. But they make him so hard to like, because these things that we know of him, it's like gross. And his character, I mean, I don't know what he's offering to her really if anything zero He is a trash she literally at the end of the movie Paris Hilton's like you're not talented. You're not good You're not athletic. You don't you're not attractive and she's like so yeah I am better than you and then later on goes but you know what? That's what love is like you accept people for their flaws like no love like the way that she describes it It's like you accept people for being garbage.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Like, there's a, I don't even understand why she would- There is nothing about him that is sincere or real or, that he is just- He's a terrible person. He's operating, he's operating like a stalker. He's operating like someone who would be like, of course I'm in your house. This is our house.
Starting point is 00:22:28 We live here. Like whenever he's caught out, his justifications might as well be those types. Well, we live here. This is where I live, and this is what I do, and I belong to have you. You are mine.
Starting point is 00:22:41 It's a much more interesting movie to actually understand. I mean, I guess they posit this narrative of like every hottie has a naughty, which like just never heard that narrative before in the world. But when I first saw the title of the movie in my email, I thought, again, never having read the script, that it was it was more and not having seen the trailer that it was it was going to be focused on the relationship between the two of them which to me would have actually been very interesting to see how this relationship is codependent and what they're getting from each other which
Starting point is 00:23:16 right now I have no idea I have no idea and then to see like how it might change if June it's hard that it's you that I have the same name as her, but if she became more conventionally attractive and appealing to men, what would happen to Paris Hilton's character? But to center the whole thing around this motherfucker was so... And to have to watch I mean I just kept on thinking watching it like to have the confidence of a mediocre white man to have the it was I I have to say on a like my own personal journey with this film was that I should feel way better about myself and have a lot more confidence in the world.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Well, can I just say... Oh, I was just thinking, can I just say that the normal... I guess the trajectory that I thought the movie would take is that he would find that, even though maybe in the beginning he wasn't attracted to the naughty, that he actually has a more connection to her and then he falls in love with her. But not that she would get a makeover
Starting point is 00:24:27 and then she'd be equally attracted to Baris Hilton and then it would be okay that he would fall in love with her because it's like it defeats the whole purpose of the movie. It's sort of like, well, yeah, when you get hot, yeah, totally fuck you too. Well, yeah. I grew, that's my arc. My arc is if you get hot, I'll fuck you.
Starting point is 00:24:45 Yeah, well, before, when you were a frog, not interested. But now that you've turned into a princess, Bonertown, let's do this. And that's why I got so crazy about him sort of indicting Johann. He's no better than Johann. Oh, yeah. And if anything, I felt angry that he
Starting point is 00:25:03 wouldn't let this woman lose her virginity to Yohan. Yeah Well, you're not a guy that we want to hang on a pedestal either I mean I put him on a pedestal because Yohan is like I searched the world for ugly girls that I can create In an image that I want to fuck and then but I thought them and they're grateful That's a David Cronenberg movie I would watch. I'm not saying I want her to fall in love with Johan and really get her heart broken, but for her first sexual experience I was absolutely on board for her having that with Johan. I really was. Absolutely. I mean, what are we talking about here? Like how dare he after all this ruin that for her this man none of
Starting point is 00:25:46 them ever okay every single man in this movie is a villain this is a movie about villains their plans are nefarious they have files of material on these women they have websites dedicated to where they are when. There is he sits on a bench of other stalkers who we are meant to believe are adorable and harmless across from another bench of stalkers who we're also meant to believe are adorable and harmless. Paris Hilton lives in a prison where she is surrounded by men who will not, will not leave her alone. So much so that they follow her, sniff her, tackle her. The only reasonable ending for this
Starting point is 00:26:41 movie, once he tackles her on the beach, is she's dead by the end of the movie. Oh, absolutely. This movie is not cool. She should be dead. If anything, I wanted to scream at her, hey, hey, hey. Stop engaging these people. The albino guy, the guy with the sign. That's always so disturbing.
Starting point is 00:27:00 All of the men are villains that we are supposed to think are heroes, they're villains, and then the women will not see Them as such no they only see men they only see the men as potential heroes well But I mean that was the most disturbing thing at the end of the film spoiler alert when When when Nate breaks up with Paris Hilton? He like the way the breakup scene were they ever together well I mean Paris Hilton's reaction to it is so like,
Starting point is 00:27:28 oh, okay, she literally goes, but I love you, and this is it, now you can go into my lingerie closet, which seems like the wrong fantasy that we're telling. Like, it's like when you find the hottest girl, get ready, cause she's gonna have a closet full of, you know, lingerie, and you get to pick it. A walk-in closet, a walk-in closet that ha ha ha ha ha
Starting point is 00:27:51 that the lingerie is displayed as if it was on display in the store. It's not lined up so that you can use this, maximize the space. No. It's like laid out so you can see everyone. It is as if you walked into... Paris Hilton and the naughty live in a Malibu beach house.
Starting point is 00:28:13 How do they afford that? They live in a $8 million house with millions of dollars worth of furniture. Like they've got like, hi, guys, come on. Again, it was the best location they could get one block away from the pier, which is where they were required to shoot this movie. Holy shit. Now, so the naughty, the naughty is,
Starting point is 00:28:35 we're told that she is vegan, right? So that, what was June, what did they say? She's vegan, she's very healthy. She's vegan, so she eats a lot of non-fat stuff. Wait, was that it? That's the line? She doesn't eat a lot of non-fat stuff. Wow. What the fuck? Again, so many people had to sign off on this.
Starting point is 00:29:02 They then got to be on set saying the lines, and someone said, we got it. But I will say. We got it, we got it, moving on. I will say, I know we have been bagging on this movie a little bit, but I will say. A little bit? A little bit. You might have noticed we've been a little negative
Starting point is 00:29:18 on this movie. But I want to say, I want to talk about the term restraint. And this movie uses restraint, because in that yoga scene, the fact that the naughty did not fart in his face, when you could have easily done that. You know they did it in ADR. They recorded it. They tested it.
Starting point is 00:29:38 I will say, I will say, I loved how many farts there were in this movie. I laughed a number of times at all the farts, because I was like, see, sometimes even a dumb movie gets it right. When Paris Hilton farted and then said, don't worry, it's not the smelly kind, I was like, come on, that's it. No, this is the movie, this right here, this is the movie. By the way, if Paris Hilton spent is the movie. This right here, this is the movie. By the way, how?
Starting point is 00:30:05 If Paris Hilton spent the whole movie shitting her pants, and that's something he had to deal with, what if the hottie is incontinent? Now, now let's take a look at this. I'm listening. And she's like, I'm gonna need to be wiped and cleaned like a baby. By the way.
Starting point is 00:30:23 By the way, not not into it. Paris Hilton. Still single. Paris Hilton. Changing those dikes, ladies. I would say if she wasn't continent, Paris Hilton would not take care of her because Paris Hilton's a bad friend.
Starting point is 00:30:43 She never is helping this person. The only time. Why do you say that? Well because, like the look at the way that she dressed it, like you would think that Paris Hilton would be like, you know what, let's maybe get some nice form-fitting yoga clothes or let's maybe. Wait, Paul, time out.
Starting point is 00:30:57 What? Yeah, time out. Time out. I just feel like she lets the. T-O Paul, T-O. I just feel like she lets us... T.O. Paul, T.O. I just feel like... Tease. I didn't feel like... What? Does it go in the corner? That was actually one of the few things that I liked about their relationship that Paris never said to her, tried to change her, tried to get her to dress differently. In fact, what I think Paris Hilton says in the movie is that 95% of the way
Starting point is 00:31:29 people view you is how you view yourself. Well, she also says this thing about earth suits. Uh... Oh! Oh! This was... You know, June, some people think our bodies are like an earth suit, a vessel that carries our soul until you pass on from this planet into the next dimension. I don't even know what that means. Yeah, I'm sort of with her on this one.
Starting point is 00:31:59 I'm just trying to help, okay? There are beauty standards at work here, right? The men in the movie think they are God's gift and they are disgusting. The men in this movie are disgusting. Except for the hunk. In terms of, are you saying in terms of looks or personality? Yes. I'm saying in terms of looks.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Okay, agree. The one hunk is hunky, but- Right, but we don't really, we don't go to lengths to examine the like disproportionate amount of attention that's on women's bodies in this movie, as opposed to the men who are, yes of course the hunk is more conventionally attractive, but there are men in this movie who should be receiving the same amount of investigation. Oh, I think that Nate needs to shave that goatee.
Starting point is 00:32:43 The fact that Nate boldly says to Paris Hilton, I'm a personal trainer, and she doesn't look at him and say, you're a fucking liar. Get out of my face. Get out of here. He then shows up to yoga in jeans? I'm sorry, you are not any kind of personal trainer. You're a fucking psychopath.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Usually when there's a disparity, one party is making up for their aesthetic with a personality, a charm. That's what I'm saying. This guy is not only not attractive, but his personality is disgusting. First of all, what do we, can we just like break it down? What is his personality besides being a stalker?
Starting point is 00:33:32 Let's go. His personality is he is a liar. He is a stalker. He does not have a job, but he's able to pay for a $2,000 spa gift certificate. His car says loser on it. Yes, able to pay for a $2,000 spa, but not just a simple paid job to cut out losers.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Maybe hashtag Jane was right. Maybe Jane had it right. He is just a loser, get out of here. But she loved him for a long time. Meanwhile, he drives around in that car and nobody else in the movie, Paris Hilton, nobody's ever like, hey why does it say loser on your car? What's up, what's up, what's up, what's up with that? Can we talk about the guy that he reigns, he ropes in? Cole? Cole. Cole Slauson.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Yeah! This movie has at least six to 11 times where he makes up things just by looking around and Cole Slauson, Cole Slauson, Cole Slauson. And commits to it hard so the whole time they have to go back to that joke. Oh, Jason. That's me. I wanted to ask you, you coleslaw sin coleslaw sin
Starting point is 00:34:46 where's a fanny pack in this movie and a fisherman's vest are you going to get my fanny pack when when you saw it on him because it's a pretty big fanny pack too big it was too big didn. It was too big didn't like it too big didn't like it too big. Yeah back to coleslaw coleslaw sin giant fanny pack on him. Well coleslaw sin. I want to like get into him because he's a missus. You want to get into coleslaw sin a man a man whose character name is made up and we never learn his real name. He is not worth knowing his name.
Starting point is 00:35:28 Okay, so Cole Sosson sees an ad that Nate puts up and the ad is this, volunteers needed medical experimentation make $500 per week, part-time evenings and weekends. Testing may include skin biopsies, sleep studies with persistent and unrelenting shocks, and anally, but I don't think it's spelled right, or, like, it's like, how would you say that that is? That's supposed to be- Anally injected fungus bacteria.
Starting point is 00:35:59 But anally is- That is, that's not how you spell anally, is it? No, no. It's A-N-A-L-Y. It looks very funny. It's. That is, that's not how you spell anally, is it? No, no. Is it? It's A-N-A-L-Y. It's very funny. It's like, yeah, it's not right. And so anyway. Treated only with placebo what?
Starting point is 00:36:14 Drugs. Drugs. Treated only with placebo drugs. So I guess maybe you wouldn't get better from it. This, here's the thing about this. This should have been used as a clue by police. This should have been a clue used by police to catch Nate Cooper.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Season two of Live and Die in LA, the podcast. Serial murder. The oddie and the notty. Where does he have this $500 from? And where does he get the $2,000 from? He's spending so much money just to, I don't know what he, what does he think? I would have loved a scene where he's alone
Starting point is 00:36:55 with his thoughts being like, Nate, what are you doing? Oh, Nate, what are we doing? What are we doing, Nate? I got too far, Coles lost and I got too, too far. Yeah, where he just like puts rocks in his pockets and walks out into the ocean. Also, the question is never asked of June. So Coles Lawson, of course, like sees her,
Starting point is 00:37:16 and I guess he was trying to set up an even worse scenario, but sees her, is sick to his stomach, is very disturbed, but we never, we, the question is never asked of June, do you like him? Right. She has no agency and no choice in the matter of these suitors. No, no, I think this movie exists in a world in which you are so ugly, you're lucky to get any guy that comes along and you better just take it or what? Who knows what just put heavy rocks in your pockets and walk into the ocean. I Mean Jason there is a world in which we could posit a Jacob's Ladder scenario that he was hit and killed By his girlfriend in that first scene and never makes it. This is
Starting point is 00:38:06 I will allow this. I will allow this. You know what? We see him literally get hit by a car. The Jacobs Ladder scenario works here because because she hits him with such force with the car and he is struck by the car then goes underneath it and then pops out to the side like what happened to me he should be very grievously injured if not straight-up deadsville so this can be then if by the way if this movie ended with just we're losing him, we're losing him, and then it would have been amazing. The last image he sees is Christabel. She's now an ER doctor and she's pumping his heart and that was it.
Starting point is 00:38:58 We dies. Yeah, she couldn't save him. So anyway, Cole, I like that by the way, Cole Slauson... Cole Slauson... I just want to talk about, like this movie came out in 2008. He sees that ad, really deliberate. He's like, huh, hmm, hmm. Picks it, then immediately runs to a payphone. Right? For this plan to work,
Starting point is 00:39:23 the person needed to pick the thing, he, and I guess he has to watch because I guess the number is a dummy number. Yeah. The internet. Why would it just be a cell phone? This is a movie that in 2008 the internet doesn't exist. You know what Nate Cooper never does? Google the Paris Hilton character. The guy, the creep even says, you should check out the website, there's even more website, more so than the file. So this guy's been building a creep website about Christabel and then Nate is like, Nate never Googles anything, Nate never uses, nobody ever uses the internet to do anything. And Christabel has on a minimum six to seven stalkers a day waiting for one that she has a really fun,
Starting point is 00:40:06 flirty relationship with, the albino. One of whom has a sign that just says marry me, right? And he holds the sign up when she's jogging and there's a cutout for his chin. There's a cutout where his chin goes. And I was like, ooh, that specific that this sign is lived in... ...really bothered me. June, I don't want to put you on the spot, but you are a runner.
Starting point is 00:40:40 What did you think of Paris Hilton's running in this movie? What did you think of Paris Hilton's running in this movie? There were so many like arms to it and it was just it was very slow. I mean there's a point where she's running and he's walking behind her just at such a slow pace but she's still keeping up that jog. I mean, the thing that made me angry about the fully walking. That is the craziest thing. He is walking. He is full of fucking walking. The thing that made me so angry about that whole opening run is the portrayal of this woman, the expectations that are set upon her. She's being stalked by these men.
Starting point is 00:41:24 So many. So many. So many men. There's a website that details her running route. And she has restraining orders against some of them and she's happy as a fucking clam. Hey guys. She knows all of them by name, which is itself chilling. These are all men who will murder her.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Yes. They just will. If given the chance, if given the chance, they would happily murder her. Absolutely. Just, just so that they can like see if she's as pretty on the inside. By the way, I hate it. By the way, I did, I did think there was a missed opportunity when the dad and the wife were walking with the stroller.
Starting point is 00:42:06 I really wanted him to push the wife and the stroller into the sand. Did anyone else notice there was no child in that stroller? That was one of those let's hope. Oh, I don't like that at all. I don't want that for them. that at all. I don't want that for them. Oh, all right. So are we going to get to do it yourself hypnosis? Oh, well, this works perfectly with Cole Slauson. So Cole Slauson goes over to the creepo number two's house and they're hypnotizing him. But I also feel like the
Starting point is 00:42:40 mom is getting hypnotized. Wait, what? Tell me more about that. I mean, listen, I'm interested only because the mom's involved. I thought the mom was in the kitchen and like, we'll hypnotize you. And the mom was like, huh? Like I thought they were going to also hypnotize her. And also the mom has a subscription. This audience gets me. Charleston, I'm home.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Thank you. Wow. June, how do you feel about moving to Charleston? I guess I don't see that I have a child in the pineapple Meet you at the pineapple So they're hypnotizing him with an Hypnotizing for dummies book and a large shocking device They are actively trying to kill Colt Slawson. They have hooked him up to an electric chair scenario. They are trying to hypnotize, they're trying to use,
Starting point is 00:43:36 I don't care, I hated this. It was very upsetting. They're trying to condition him to think that June the naughty is hot by showing him a picture of a sexy space alien. And by the way, it works. It works instantly. It works instantly. This movie becomes a Manchurian candidate for five minutes.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Yes. Did I ever tell you about the time that June and I watched the Manchurian candidate? candidate for five minutes. Yes, I the time that June and I watched the Manchurian candidate. We were in a hotel room and the brightness on the TV was turned all the way down and we watched all of the entering can be like it's an interesting choice. The director made to shoot it so dark and barely see it and we were like what's happening now? I don't know. It's like oh that's the it. And we were like, what's happening now? I don't know. It's like, oh, that's the message.
Starting point is 00:44:26 I can't tell. It's sort of like, it's murky in this brainwash, gay. I love it when you are just new enough in a relationship that you don't want to say something's wrong, that you just want to justify the incorrectness of something. So that you can be like, I know that this is, I did the same thing. I went to a concert with a woman once
Starting point is 00:44:43 to see the replacements and kept insisting that, oh, I love this is, I did the same thing, I went to a concert with a woman who wants to see the replacements and kept insisting that, oh, I love this song, but then it was one of the opening bands. And then another band, I mean, this is like I was in ninth grade or something, then another band came out, I was like, well, this is the replacement, this is the best, not the replacements. It happened twice, I was like, oh, give me my happy one. I love that you were in ninth grade, but you refer to her as a woman. Of course. Of course, with big titties.
Starting point is 00:45:13 By the way, she was a beautiful, beautiful woman. Big, sloppy titties. Right? Cool? Did I get it? BST. BST I will say one thing about this movie too besides that running scene with Paris Hilton this movie is all about people
Starting point is 00:45:33 sitting down everyone's sitting in this movie camera all time camera moves too expensive they really are um so yeah he's hypnotized and now he's in love with the naughty. And then he like whips out this Star Trek shit, like where he starts referring to her like a Borg and like she's like the Borg Queen. But I'm realizing now as I'm saying it, it's because they showed him the picture of Space Lady. Space Lady, yeah. Oh, but I guess they couldn't use a real Star Trek picture because that costs money.
Starting point is 00:46:06 So we just had to justify that that was a picture from Star Trek. And I know my Star Trek pictures. Listen, you know your Space Ladies. I know that that wasn't Alice Krug from Star Trek Nemesis. Insurrection? One of those. The one with the board. Oh boy.
Starting point is 00:46:23 Do you want to take a minute and figure it out? I believe it is insurrection because nemesis I think is one with per card is fighting per card, which is Eric Bona right Oh first contact. That's it. Sorry. You really are home. Oh no yeah These fucking nerds get you, man. Charleston! Charleston is my town! Let's go get biscuits later
Starting point is 00:46:54 in the shopping area. I loved, there was a thing that made me laugh, but then I was like, why did they do this? That I was like, this is a bit that I would want the movie to do, and it did it which shocked me which is Nate is on the phone with what's his buddy's name the Arno thank you pull back to reveal Arno's on the toilet finishes the call then audible fart fart, poop drop, you hear him, you, in this movie,
Starting point is 00:47:28 you hear a man shit. Now, sometimes in movies, you hear a fart. Rarely do you hear someone actively shit into a toilet that isn't diarrhea. It's not like, oh boy, it is just how each and every one of us turds into the toilet at night. He's just like, okay, I'll talk to you later. Pfft.
Starting point is 00:47:59 And you know what I gotta say about that? Jason? After seeing that scene scene I had one thing I wanted to say about that. That's hot. Solid Paris Hilton quote. Thank you. June you put your head down during that whole description. Yeah I didn't care for that Jason. I didn't care for that at all. You know what? We all like different things in the movie. I know, I just feel like, you know what? I'm not into potty humor, I guess. Here's what I did find out,
Starting point is 00:48:32 just because I was curious about it. I was like, that's 100% an ADR joke. Nope, that guy actually shit in that toilet in that moment. He said, I want you to mic this toilet. I'm gonna drop this hot deuce. They had problems with the camera that day, so we had to do it 17 times live.
Starting point is 00:48:52 Yep. You know, because it's just like eating. If you want to eat in a scene, you have to eat in every take. So if you're going to eat. Mmm. Moving off that, what was so interesting about the movie, I mean, they go to such lengths to pan over June's disgusting body, right?
Starting point is 00:49:11 They really spend their time, and also Paris's gorgeous body. And yet, they do show restraint, much like the fart joke they didn't go for in yoga. When they go when they are panning up her bathing suited body her bushes kept together quite nicely which I was surprised about. You wanted to see hair jutting out? It's not that I wanted to see that. June you're saying you wanted there to be pubic hair pouring out of her bathing suit. That's what you June June Diane Ray, wanted in the movie? Now this is a shocking reveal. We are aligned on this.
Starting point is 00:49:50 For all that we had seen up until then, I thought for sure, when we get to her bush, it's gonna be crazy. It's gonna be hilariously crazy. We've been told. And we've been told she specifically has. We've been told her hair is a problem. Yes, that her hair is out of control, It's gonna be hilarious Yes that her hair is out of control that it's grown that
Starting point is 00:50:15 Electrolysis that lasers are not helping and so I was curious what what's it gonna be like? Well, I couldn't see anything. It was completely no and I'll be honest. I went frame by frame Anything trying to really zoom in there, yeah, I was like I was like Siri enhance Siri enhance quadrant three a Tremendous restraint shown to really humanize this character. I I tip my hat to the filmmakers um I Think June and I cuz June and I watch this together, and I think I would like to just talk for a second about Johan, who I think gives a pretty solid performance. I thought he was great. Yup, agree.
Starting point is 00:50:55 Funny, and I didn't know, I didn't know which way he was gonna go, I didn't know. Which was great actually. He played it great by, he didn't really tip what his character's intention was which is much more purveyor Than what you thought it was like if it was just to to treat her to get to Paris That would be skeevy and gross But this was more like serial killer like I'll make her into what I want and then she'll be mine Like it was weird. I did not like that at all quick question I thought that the naughty when she is transformed is more attractive than Paris Hilton You say of course, but I go I don't think that Paris Hilton's in on that equation Like I don't think the Paris Hilton's like so you'll be really hot and your friend gets hot and then she'll be hotter than you
Starting point is 00:51:44 I don't think that that was told to Paris and I don't know what men think I don't want to know I don't want to know but I I mean when I look at the two of them I really don't want to know there there's no content. I don't know based on this movie I think they're insane and disgusting and everyone's What's interesting terrifying what's interesting in this movie is Paris Hilton is rejected by both men. Which is wild. Like it is, it's like I thought the movie was full on going for, oh Paris Hilton ends up with Johann and Nate realizes true love.
Starting point is 00:52:22 Like when Nate and June start dancing at the bar and they share a moment and it seems as though these people who've been hanging out all this time have like a love at first sight moment where they're dancing and getting along. And I was like, oh, what's gonna happen is they'll realize, well, we should be together and they are gonna go off and be together
Starting point is 00:52:38 and everybody ends up where they should be and blah, blah, blah, but instead it's just becomes Johan and Nate want June and Paris Hilton is just kind of like but I don't you get the sense she's okay with that oh yeah she literally says don't worry Nate I have lots of date options yeah but yet she's but yeah we understand that she has not gotten a lot of action as she says twice like I don't get a lot of but that's only because she says no because of June she's, I've said that I'm not gonna do anything until June finds love.
Starting point is 00:53:07 Got it, okay, so she's getting options, she's just not taking them. Which leads to them saying, she's not only smoking hot, she's also extremely horny. And I was like, guys, what the fuck is this? It is surprising to me that this movie was written by a woman. Yes!
Starting point is 00:53:24 I wrote, I wrote multiple times, it is not possible this is a woman writing this movie. I'm not surprised. I mean, the patriarchy is a smog we all breathe in. I just want everyone to know, the patriarchy is a smog we all breathe in is a quote from Brittany Packnett. Let's go to the audience to see what you have to say about the hottie and the naughty. Alright so ma'am your name and your question. I'm Rachel I'm from Columbia I have to preface a couple things, so bear with me. This has to make the podcast, because my seven-year-old would only let me come if he had something to brag about
Starting point is 00:54:14 to his second grade class. All right, well this is gonna be the talk of the second grade class. Please don't let them listen to this episode. Next, I do remember my first grade crush. He had, my sister says he had a Kool-Aid mustache at all times. Okay. My question is, are we ignoring the fact that this guy drove that sucky car all the way
Starting point is 00:54:40 to LA? I wrote that too. I said there's no way that car makes it to LA. I wrote that too. I said there's no way that car makes it to LA. I have a brand new Ford Focus that would never make it to LA. And you're not even coming from that far. You're coming just from Charleston. He came from Maine.
Starting point is 00:54:59 That's a bigger trip. Correct. I had a huge problem with this. Your main problem with this movie... It's just the... That is correct. Your main problem with this movie... That is correct.
Starting point is 00:55:12 ...was that a late model Ford Focus... Correct. ...would not be able to drive cross-country. I mean, I love that that's your problem, but this movie's got bigger fish to fry. Oh, I'm sorry. Paul, can I ask you a question? I did like it. Can you ask as the question to everybody
Starting point is 00:55:28 if they remember their first grade crush's name? You got it. Do you remember your first grade crush's name? No. And you're...and I don't mean to put you on the spot, but you're young. Yes. How old are you? Fourteen. Okay.
Starting point is 00:55:45 14! How many teenagers in the house? About four. Those fucking nerds just freaked out All right What's her name? Emerson Emerson, what's your question? So After the naughty gets hot I'll just say it So thank you. This movie is shaping young minds. Yes This movie is is is reversing wokeness. Yes. She says that she was hit on by a guy with a rat tail mullet. What would that even be? Great question.
Starting point is 00:56:37 And I'm gonna put that to June, who has all of our hair answers. What is a rat tail mullet, June? I don't ever wanna know. I don't ever wanna see that. I think it's just short in the front and then a long rat tail. Rat tail mullet.
Starting point is 00:56:55 It sounds horrible. This is in front, rat in the back. Um, sir, your question. My question is, the line, a life without orgasms is a life without flowers Do you actually believe that yes? What? Hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on sir sir sir. Can I ask you a question sir hang on? Oh, it is your wife in the box with you
Starting point is 00:57:24 Ma'am she is ma'am Hold on ma'am. Are you okay? Ma'am do you want to live a life without orgasms? Well, he said we have two kids we had sex twice, but that's not answering the question. Hey That's the problem. That's the problem. He thinks because they had sex twice, she had an orgasm. She just got pregnant because you did, bro! Don't make muscles! Don't make muscles now! Ma'am, ma'am, how do you feel about the turn of events?
Starting point is 00:58:02 Ma'am, blink if you need to be saved. Do you agree with Paris Hilton? Sure. Well that should be an... How many people agree with Paris Hilton that a life without orgasm is a life without flowers? That's not enough people. Does Charlie... Wait, is Charlie South Carolina not coming?
Starting point is 00:58:26 What's happening? Why, like, I'm worried about you guys. I feel like the overwhelming nature is like, meh, orgasm's over it. It's a myth. Female orgasm, it's a myth. I'm deeply concerned. I am worried about you guys, especially you, ma'am. Listen, just so you know, it could be another way. It could be another way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:55 She is furious. On the ride home tonight, she's like, why did you fucking say that? I never thought he was going to come all the way over to the balcony side box. Yeah. Then he made double muscles? Come on. Before we get into other people's thoughts about this film, let me tell you a couple things about this film. The director of this film only had directed documentary before this. Interesting. So that's that. Interesting. We had directed documentary before this. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:59:26 So that's that. Interesting. And some of the taglines for the film were, do you want to take a guess? Anyone want to take a guess? It's a hairy situation? June, you were right there. I was going to say she's a 10, she's a negative 0, I don't know, something like that. I thought you were close because you were like, she's hot, she's not, he's nuts. Okay.
Starting point is 00:59:58 Then there is... What? That's hot, that's not. And then finally... Paris Hilton's tagline at the time. Yep, and love never needed to be so blind. Those are some of the taglines for the hottie. Wow, even the taglines are overtly cruel. Indeed, now obviously we had an opinion about this film,
Starting point is 01:00:21 but there are people out there with a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions. I admit that in the past I've had a habit of scrutinizing films on Amazon, but now I've dropped the bar and given them five stars from Cobra Congo toys to leprechaun in the hood. I fortunately have my own opinion A weapon that I use to help harass The erudite and deep, they're just a bunch of sheep They wouldn't know art if it bit them on the ass
Starting point is 01:00:56 Come on you poor unfortunate trolls So vain, so mean They say this film's not a winner and it almost made me hurl. And do I mock them? Yes, of course. You poor, unfortunate trolls. Such bad reviews.
Starting point is 01:01:17 If you go digging for a plot, my dear, you're gonna find some holes. If you need a boost of confidence, go on and remove the mole. Paul June and Jason, now I've got them y'all with speed to cruise control You poor unfortunate child Give it up for Lily! Give it up for Lily!
Starting point is 01:01:52 Great work Charleston, those were great. Good work Charleston. Your hometown. It's my hometown. Alright so these are five star reviews, cold from Amazon. Let me give you some stats here about the film. Thirty nine reviews for this film. 39, a real record low. 36 are five star reviews. 36%. Okay, here we go. The first one, this one from Chrissy W says, highly recommend for 14 year olds. So that goes to you.
Starting point is 01:02:26 That kid gets it. Yep. Those nerds get it. This one starts off, this is written by Alan and Alan says, okay, let's be fair here. I bet a majority of the bad reviews came from people who have not watched the movie
Starting point is 01:02:41 and or have cold hearts. I watched the movie with an open mind and guess what? I loved it. The character of June in quotes was done well, but I felt like they went a little overboard with her flaws. I know girls that have friends like that and was pretty much on par with how they act. I'd be that have friends like that and it was pretty much on par with how they act. I'd be bitter and angry too.
Starting point is 01:03:11 She wasn't bitter and angry. No. Anyway, super cute movie. Any decent-hearted person would appreciate it even if you do not like Paris Hilton, which I personally do not like, nor dislike. She's quite pretty, but my goodness, June turned out to be gorgeous. Five stars. Seems like one of the characters from that movie wrote this. I'm bringing up this person, the person, the reviewer reviewers name is Sexy,
Starting point is 01:03:47 that's the reviewers name, and the title is as close to Paris Hilton as you can get. Unless you know her daily itinerary, this is as close to cheeky Paris Hilton as you can possibly get. Far from being a rich spoiled brat, Paris has got natural talents as an entrepreneur that I admire. She's a natural actress, very comfortable in front of camera, very cool, very calm, very cheeky, and captivating. I enjoyed this movie from its beginning. What I liked were the themes. Theme number one. No!
Starting point is 01:04:22 Paris's character being faithful to someone unfortunate. I wonder if Paris can stay in a long-term relationship in real life. Theme number two. Paris's philosophy about the human soul versus body and how we look on the outside. We do not have a soul. Theme number three.
Starting point is 01:04:47 The revealing flashback storytelling technique that is used to explain the present relationship in relation to the past. Not a theme. Recommended viewing, shallow howl. Five stars. Wow! I did viewing shallow how five stars. Wow. Now, now Nate Kylie pulled up Sexy's page. There's 347 reviews of Sexy.
Starting point is 01:05:22 And it really goes deep into the wormhole. Paul, I don't want this on your browser. Sexy gets into... They are disturbing. They are. But if you want to have a fun treat, treat yourself to Sexy's reviews on Amazon. I don't like it. All 347 of them. They're there. I don't like it.
Starting point is 01:05:43 This exists. This is a real person. I don't even want to look at it. I feel like they're almost too disturbing to read, honestly, as I gauge of them. They're there. This exists. This is a real person. I don't even want to look at it. I feel like they're almost too disturbing to read, honestly, as I gauge through. A couple things here I want to tell you about that I really like about this movie. First of all, the budget. Anyone want to take a guess? 2008? 2008. I'm going to say $11 million. I think it's more.
Starting point is 01:06:05 It's so, but keep in mind how few locations there are. Yeah. How many interiors? How much? Nobody has a quote. Like, what's spending money? 30 million. Whoa! Nine million dollars.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Nine million dollars. Domestic growth, 27,000 dollars. Nine million dollars. Domestic growth, $27,000. I guarantee. The reason why I said 30 million is because I bet she is, Paris Hilton is an international star. Agree. Whether we like it or not.
Starting point is 01:06:43 Right. Agree. And we do like it. At this time especially. Absolutely. At this time especially. An article in the Houston Chronicle determined that based on box office receipts, an average 28 people per theater saw this movie on opening weekend.
Starting point is 01:06:58 Here's my conjecture. My belief is that the people that watch this movie because of this podcast will double the net value. Possibly. We will, this is the challenge. Let's double how much the hottie and the naughtie has made. And by the way, that number they just gave you, that meant that five people went to each showing of the movie, five people or less. It shot in five weeks.
Starting point is 01:07:26 That's five too many. This still does, it's not making me feel better. Paris Hilton scouted locations for the film. And here is the one fact that I love the most. The film was released in the United Kingdom and it was advertised as the number one film. And then smaller print revealed it was the number one in the intermittent movie databases bottom 100 which was true at the time. Shit. This movie was given Razzie Awards and won Razzie Awards for worst actress
Starting point is 01:08:01 worst on-screen couple. It was nominated for worst screenplay worst picture and won Razzie Awards for Worst Actress, Worst On-Screen Couple, was nominated for Worst Screenplay, Worst Picture, and Worst Director. And this movie came in 462 out of all the movies made in 2008. The top three movies of 2008, The Dark Knight, Iron Man, Indiana Jones, and The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. This movie was beaten by The Love Guru, 88 Minutes, Punisher Warzone, and it
Starting point is 01:08:22 beat nothing that we have done on this podcast. Wow. Jason June, would you recommend this film? Paul, I'm not gonna lie. Absolutely not. This one, I mean, if you can, maybe if you're gonna watch it for this show, watch it, but like, whenever the point comes
Starting point is 01:08:45 when you're watching it, that you're like, you know what, I don't wanna watch this anymore, turn it off. Cause it's also way longer than you think it is, and I believe two have watched it so long. I believe two have watched it put you on a list. I believe they're tracking people that complete this film yeah June I mean usually when I audition for a role don't get it
Starting point is 01:09:13 I I do like to hate watch that thing and just watch it angrily and I didn't feel that watching this movie. I felt such relief And I didn't feel that watching this movie. I felt such relief. I think if you're watching this for the podcast, then watch it, I guess. Make sure your children are nowhere near this movie. Agree. That's what I get concerned about,
Starting point is 01:09:38 that there are young minds watching it. It actually should be burned and never seen it's you're saying this troubling movie this should be like removed from existence I don't believe in censorship but I in this case in this one case you want people to be burning copies of Hottie and the naughty in this in case I'd be open to it. It is Irresponsible for the last line of your movie to be you're out of breath What was that calling back what was that? Then the movie ends like a bar closing down. It's like we're having fun lights on what oh, okay, we gotta go
Starting point is 01:10:21 Alright, what happened? It's done They're also sorry that that that last moment and the wide shot they pull away in is supposed to be this romantic shot between the two of them. She's sitting on the edge of a bench so awkwardly and he's leaned over to kiss her. They look so uncomfortable. Yes. The only way it could have been better is if they lean in for a kiss and it's like... And if she said, last line of the film, uh oh, that was a smelly one.
Starting point is 01:11:01 I am going to disagree with my two co-hosts. I recommend this film. If you like love stories like The Notebook and gross out humor like garbage pail kids, this is the film for you. I wish this movie had characters that had Alzheimer's. I wish I had Alzheimer's and couldn't forget I'd watch this movie.
Starting point is 01:11:22 I love this film. It made me so happy to be married to such a wonderful woman I'm not in this crazy dating world because this is like that HBO show euphoria Oh my god Do not get me involved in this crazy dating world because I'd have to be stalking people and waiting for them running Why do you keep talking about not wanting to get involved in the crazy dating world? Not a big deal hang out tonight and Charleston no one get involved in the crazy dating world. Not a big deal. Hang out tonight in Charleston. I don't want to get involved in that crazy dating world.
Starting point is 01:11:50 Hey, June. We have a family together. What are you talking about? What's going on, pal? Definitely don't want to get involved and go out dancing and get crazy dating. Go to a good old cafe. You don't have to, hey, babe, you don't have to worry about it.
Starting point is 01:12:02 The good old cafe? You think the crazy dancing in Charleston is at some place called the good old cafe. You don't have to, hey babe, you don't have to worry about it. The good old cafe? You think the crazy dancing in Charleston is at some place called the good old cafe? I don't want to get on one of those cruise ships tonight and end up wherever they're going to dock tomorrow. Well then you'd be so far from your hometown of Charleston. Don't want to get involved in that crazy dating. Don't want to go on one of those
Starting point is 01:12:23 late night romantic ghost tours. Don't want to get involved in that crazy dating. Don't want to go on one of those late night romantic ghost tours. Don't want to do it. This is all so specific and well thought out. Paul, it sounds like these are all things you're going to do tonight. I want to stay as far away from it as I can. Don't want to have a burner phone in my pocket. You don't want to? Because you asked me to hold it in my fanny pack. All right. Let's talk about it after the show.
Starting point is 01:12:52 Thank you, everybody, for coming. You did it, Charleston. You did it, Charleston. You have been a fantastic crowd. That's our show. Reminder that June's book comes out this Tuesday. It's called, Represent a Woman's Guide to Running for Office
Starting point is 01:13:12 and Changing the World. I can't recommend this book enough. June did an amazing job with it. It's funny, it's informational. It's such a good read. I left wanting to run for office. I'm being very sincere. I was blown away by this book.
Starting point is 01:13:26 It comes out this Tuesday, September 3rd. Pick yourself up a copy. A big thanks to Avril Haley, our producer, who picks all of the films for all of these live shows. And this show, Hottie and the Naughty, which we have a very special shirt right now available in the T-Public store. That's right. We have a disgusting toenail shirt
Starting point is 01:13:44 from the Naughty, it's so gross. You can go to tpublic.com slash store slash HDTGM. A big thanks to Nate Kiley who's always out there researching and finding all the good facts like the Rock's chest width. And Kyle Waldron who designed some of our great How This Get Made posters you can find on our Instagram page and our Facebook page. Molly Reynolds, who just kills it, culling together all this great stuff and helping work our Twitter and answering all your emails. A big thanks to Devin, our engineer,
Starting point is 01:14:12 who traveled across country with us, out there doing the work on a Wednesday night. How did this get made? So much fun out there on tour. And Cody Fisher, our producer here in LA. We love them all. Thanks so much. We'll see you next week.
Starting point is 01:14:26 Bye-bye.

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