How Did This Get Made? - Matinee Monday: The January Man

Episode Date: January 2, 2023

HDTGM all-star Kulap Vilaysack (Add To Cart) joins Paul and Jason to discuss the 1989 crime comedy The January Man. They talk about Kevin Kline’s accent, Rod Steiger’s yell acting, Susan Sarandon���s rhythmic slaps, describing haggis, the Calendar Girl revelation, and much more. (Originally released 04/08/2021) For more Matinee Monday content, visit Paul's YouTube page: https://www.youtube.com/c/PaulScheerBuy tix for June's pickleball tourney: https://www.janeclub.com/pickleball Go to www.hdtgm.com for tour dates, merch, and more.Follow Paul on Letterboxd: https://letterboxd.com/paulscheer/HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: https://discord.gg/paulscheerCheck out Paul and Rob Huebel live on Twitch (https://www.twitch.tv/friendzone) every Thursday 8-10pm ESTSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael here: listen.earwolf.com/deepdiveSubscribe to Unspooled with Paul Scheer and Amy Nicholson here: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledCheck out The Jane Club over at www.janeclub.comCheck out new HDTGM merch over at https://www.teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmWhere to find Jason, June & Paul:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on Twitter

If you like fucking yelling, then you're going to love today's feature presentation. Hello people of Earth and welcome to How Did This Get Made, I am Tall John Shear and boy oh boy we got a movie for you today January man comes out in 1989 Kevin Klein as a cop kind of solving a murder mystery sort of having a lot of sex definitely is it a comedy I don't know but to break it down I am bringing in one of the best a person who I believe like me had such high expectations for this film please welcome my co-host mr. Jason Manzuchus I mean Paul I'll be honest this movie I when we when you sent me the email that said we were gonna do the January man I did in my mind think oh really because I think that might have been a good movie you know

and then on paper yeah and then I looked it up and I was like maybe I'm remembering the wrong movie because and then I was like maybe I'm thinking of maybe Paul meant we're supposed to do the Jeff Goldblum movie the tall man and then I was like oh no he did mean the January man and then I was like I but I still think this is I mean this is John Patrick Shanley script this has got like a murderer's row cast including like Kevin Klein, Kytel, Alan Rickman, Sarandon, Mary Elizabeth master Antonio one of my like true like like teenage years loves like like Mary Elizabeth master Antonio looks like the girl that I literally had like an unrequited crush on in high school for all of high school she has the look of an 80s person but doesn't look very 80s if that makes

sense like she is pull off a timeless beauty Paul she is a timeless beauty no look I was also like very concerned about this film because as a kid this was an aspirational film that I wanted to see but my parents wouldn't let me see it because they're like no it's too adult and I think it just meant because there were boobs in it but like I was a huge fish called Wanda fan I loved Kevin Klein in that and this was after that and I also love this movie do you remember this movie where he played like a mob boss called like I love you to death oh I don't remember oh it like everyone in the family is trying to kill him I think like River Phoenix and it's fish it's fish called Wanda well let's bring in our guests because I want to get I want to get into all this well anyway

had high expectations but Averill Halley who is our producer who picks all of our films she's like trust me this is a disaster within five minutes of the film when I first heard Kevin Klein say may have expressed so please I was like I wrote her as like you are goddamn genius and speaking of goddamn geniuses goddamn we are having a very special guest today uh miss June Diane Rayfield is not here and we are filling her spot with a how did this get made all-star a podcasting all-star an acting writing directing all-star who has a brand new podcast called add to cart please welcome our friend cool up fill I suck cool up how are you what an intro thank you for having me oh yeah so excited to have you on the show you're welcome for watching this movie

I have to tell you cool up I I do want to say you're welcome for having to watch this movie because I have enjoyed this movie more like a fine wine it's aged on me I actually have been sending clips to my friends because Averill put clips in the drop box I'm like you need to see this movie you need to see what's going on here wow it defies it defies expectations yeah I mean of course I give it four boobs I mean that's me that's what I must I must give it there's casual boobage in this and that's the thing that is really indicative of an 80s movie just when it's non-sexual breasts out it's just sort of like yeah we need to put this in that helps us get an r rating that there's there's everything in this movie is at 11 I feel like everybody with the exception

interestingly of Harvey Keitel who appears to be asleep in every scene like Keitel is doing so little in what he in in his performance he's basically like yeah yeah okay okay sure and to juxtapose him the idea in this movie is that Klein and Keitel are brothers okay yes not possible no it's simply not possible Klein is doing a fish called Wanda level new york new york accent he is accent should be arrested I mean this accent is like what is going on it's gonna be tough to be arrested because it goes it goes in and out yeah it pops up and then it disappears it and because some moments when you first meet him you're like wow he is swinging for the fences because we meet him not as a cop as a fireman yes saving the life of a child and that he then gives

very intimate CPR to he gives the kids CPR and like brushes the hair off of his head and like gives him a little kiss I was like whoa what's going on guys what what what this is like I don't think firemen like tenderly stroke the hair of the the children they save I mean I'm also gonna go out on a limb and say if you're a disgraced police officer who is involved in some sort of grift which we don't fully get all the details of but we understand there's some sort of grift can you just transfer over to the fire department without any issue like is it sort of like oh yeah well you were a problem at the police department because you were a crook yeah at the fire department we don't mind you come on over get us so the yeah so the fire department is a pipeline

for disgraced cops is what this movie is trying to say it's a bad so that's how you rehabilitate disgraced cops into heroes is you make them firemen and then they get on a beefcake calendar and everything's forgiven the brother element was so bizarre and the the the accent really when when they do the few scenes where it's just them like Kevin Klein's accent against Harvey Kytel's it's it's troublesome at at the least and then they're supposed to be like Klein is supposed to be like a Sherlock Holmes and I can't buy Harvey Kytel as a mycroft like there's no not at all but by the way weren't you thinking in spoiler alert but that Harvey Kytel was going to be the killer or or someone okay by the way this gets at a huge piece of this movie which is I found very bizarre

and also sort of interesting so so this movie is a serial killer who done it unlock the mystery of the movie unlock the mystery of the serial killers actions and you will solve the case type but exactly what cool up is saying kind of like a Sherlock Holmes-y kind of story yeah and Kevin Klein is pulled back out from disgrace Rod Steiger like chomp chomp chomping down on every scene he's in can Rod Steiger like like like like you know like a bull in a china shop he's the mayor of New York and he's just like if you told me that if you I would have rather that he just like smash everything with a baseball bat throughout every scene it would make sense Rod Steiger is genius in this film I need to play you the scene that I've been sending to everyone

sure it seems funny down here and now but it don't feel so fucking funny in the middle of America's when you see those girls dead who do you think you're talking to Jesus Christ who the fuck do you think you're talking to you think I'm your wife you want to fuck me well don't mess with me you mess with me and you better have a goddamn sense of humor the size of Lake Michigan to find something to laugh about and if I send you a rubber duck to work with that is the news can you understand that do you understand I'm almost positive he has a perm in the movie the by the way that permit like there is something going on like those the titans of acting in that scene yes I feel like there is there is a dick measuring contest going on there it's like Harvey Keitel Danny

yellow and Rod Steiger all moving around like oh who's going to get the award for the best actor here because and also that scene while I enjoyed it yes so long so so much air you know without like our main character is not in that scene for it to be that long is wild by the way cool up our main character doesn't show up for a long time for a long time it makes you feel like you know the first like 20 minutes of 48 hours is just a McNulty procedural yeah procedural and then Eddie Murphy arrives and is just breathes life into the whole movie and it just is it's a sprint from then on the movie acts as though once we get ready once we get to this Kevin Klein this movie is gonna take off and once we get to Kevin Klein I'm like wait a minute I think this might

be a different movie Kevin Klein appears to be in a fish called Wanda heightened comedic Sherlock Holmes movie everybody else is in a Sydney Lumet procedural every single other person is in a Sydney Lumet movie it's so weird and I will say this too I mean they are really over complicating the plot for and this is what I think you were getting up before Jason oh sorry yeah yeah sorry not to connect in any way yes not only are Harvey Keitel and Kevin Klein brothers we find out later that Kevin Klein may have taken the fall for Harvey Keitel but also Kevin Klein's ex-lover is now Harvey Keitel's wife yes and then Susan Sarandon was like young Kevin Klein and young Susan Sarandon's characters were in love you see pictures of them

they seem so happy and and and living like a happy life and now she is she and Keitel are married and they are you know part of New York society all done up all like cold and detached and they're the type of people that go to the ballet oh my god you know what those fucking ballet people let me tell you something I mean I can't make heads or tails of what is going on Susan Sarandon I just want to point out one more thing too when you talk about the tight nucleus of this movie so the mayor's daughter is having an affair with Kevin Klein Kevin Klein used to sleep with Susan Sarandon and they have a thing but also Susan Sarandon is now dating Kevin Klein's brother and then Kevin Klein's brother they're married they're married yeah so it's like everybody is like

this is a movie where everybody interacts with each other they're all you would think that that somehow and again this is a John Patrick Shanley who wrote Moonsdruck yes you know is like an incredible playwright an incredible writer you would think that the mechanics of this story would exist such that there's so much um friction between people there's so much antagonism between between brothers between ex-workers that you know Danny Aiello hates Kevin Klein uh you know there's so much animosity uh that you would think that one of these people would eventually be revealed to be the serial killer right yeah not the case that's what we're waiting for the serial killer is an anonymous character who's never named or even really shown and so the solution to the

case unlike a Sherlock Holmes or a Agatha Christie or a type of unlike one of those type of Poirot gives you the reveal uh we get the reveal is like a oh okay I guess they got the guy but we that that doesn't help that doesn't really fix anything there's no fun there's no fun no anything there's no like oh yeah there's no fun all those murders didn't equal any fun I think it's almost like they were just senseless murders Kevin Klein I think says his character says who the killer is it does not matter he no I actually have the clip we'll play the clip right here I wonder if I could get a cup of coffee preferably espresso does anybody know this guy who he is ain't important

has a problem with him he's nobody he says the killer is no one as an audience member I'm like fuck you fuck you for telling me like that's the that's it like I just watched a two-hour movie to tell me it doesn't make a difference it would be like an episode of house in which they're only in the room where they're trying to figure out the case and you never go in and meet the patient you never go you never have any of the experience with the people that are affected by it you know by the way the killer is Kevin Klein's stunt double and I gotta say odd choice that he had like shoe polish on his face oh that was oh you mean he was in blackface completely yeah okay well that's what I kind of wanted to talk about oh yeah was he in blackface to

yes make it look like he was a black man yes that is even crazier oh yeah 100% yeah 100% was it in like Nike in Nike yeah and like in Jordan's like it was god no I thought at first it was just bad directing like I didn't like the way the camera didn't capture the breath like oh clear the stuntman is trying to be somebody else wait Paul but you are you are right bad directing you are so right about that it didn't work this was a benefit of this movie you can't quite tell what was the choice or not but it's like we we did Jade recently and you know like it's like and these erotic thrillers this isn't a thriller and what's interesting about this movie is and what I really kind of like what you could you could never settle into this movie because and I want to be

very clear I love Kevin Klein love Kevin Klein he's wonderful the idea of him playing a character like this a Sherlock Holmes type character should be a home run by the way it felt like they were setting him up for a series like oh this would be his like his series because he's like little what you already heard there is can I get a cup of coffee yeah express so like I'm like oh that's our he has that kind of Sherlock Holmes and he's at ease everywhere he's never he's never caught by surprise like the the the scene that that best illustrates it is which is which is bad because it illustrates how good charismatic and compelling he is but because he is all of those things it completely robs the stakes of the movie of their impact so when he is chasing the eventually he

discovers the real murderer and when he's chasing him and they have the most insane yeah boy what about the fight scene that goes down the flights of stairs in the puck building in New York City right yes and it is and the whole way down Kevin Klein is making jokes he's craggy he's like come on come on stop don't make me do this and when people are looking he's like how am I doing he's like he's doing jokes in a movie that should be deadly series well for a or that should be the movie right I was gonna say yeah the movie though the movie that exists is a thriller but his presence keeps keeps taking the air out of it so they should have made a movie in which the that he's allowed to be funny and the movie understands that make your flesh make your flesh or something

like that that feels like because it again you have to feel like Kevin Klein is on a on a roll at this point it's fish called Wanda it's you know this other movie that I was talking about before where he is this mafia guy he's the leading man they know that he can do this thing so he must have had some say here it feels like it's cast with a bunch of great people everyone's on board Alan Rickman on Alan Rickman role and I love it loved it he's great and he's also kind like Alan Rickman kind of is walking the perfect middle line where he is bizarre but grounded and I really thought like oh I want to see Alan Rickman and I'm sorry that we didn't get to see more of these roles from him that were kind of these I mean it was very light and kind of fun I liked it a lot

I loved a minute I mean I'm obsessed obsessed Alan Rickman one of the true like should be spoken of as one of the true great actors of his generation I think from to when you think about the fact that within a couple of years of this movie he's also Hans Gruber he's he's Hans he's like one of the great villains yeah in diehard and then also playing this very funny side character sidekick character to Kevin so Kevin Klein sorry we haven't explained exactly a little bit but Kevin Klein is a he was a police officer he was a fireman they bring him back into the police department to solve this serial killer thing but he police officer honorary fireman yes yes exactly but he's atypical because he's a hippie they keep calling him or they he's like

he's like he lives in the village he's a beatnik yeah he his friend is an artist he's like got a very kind of his vibe is not what you especially at this time would consider police officer he's got long hair he's got when he takes over his office in the police department I was like they are really doing some things like like you find out that he doesn't want any furniture in his office and he basically brings in his own oak panel desk and has Alan Rickman painting the walls and has his own espresso machine there because that's his calling card like and he just takes out all the furniture it's like it's so trying to be your your right club like Sherlock Holmes like it's like this is my thing I need to think in the right way play music the right way like

he's it's all this thing the cops hate him they hate his guts yeah but then I just like we want a character like this you want like really good demonstrations of power yeah and we meet him and I'm waiting I'm waiting and finally it's like let's you know he follows the mayor's daughter after after a funeral she goes ice skating and she goes ice skating that's a traditional New York City funeral oh okay go to the funeral and then goes ice skating it does not go just goes from from the church ceremony to ice skating yes you don't go to the cemetery for the burial wait you don't go to the cemetery for the burial you go straight to Rockefeller Center so you can ice skate but by yourself and no one no one else was doing it though

I feel or all those people were coming from funerals I don't want to I don't want to pull you off track at all but I will just say I knew this movie was bad when it starts on New Year's Eve and you follow our two main characters who are going home before the stroke of midnight they're both in their own apartments yes they leave a New Year's Eve party yes and if you're yes and then if you're not sure one of the characters goes home and there's slow motion of her fish tank oh I was like that fish tank I was like you're not allowed to have a fish tank in another Kevin Klein movie you're this is like that they should have clocked that and be like we really can't but again you thought well they're spending a lot of time in this fish tank do you

think that this fish tank is gonna give a clue nope no no clues no nothing that's the thing is none of the none of the case the the case of the serial killer the January man the this none of the case itself I mean they eventually end up solving it by the way he's not the January man because he's been killing every month like oh sorry I think yeah yeah yeah but you don't even the movie's name is flawed he is the monthly killer he just caught in January yeah he's not a specific gen he's the Gregorian calendar killer I mean but that's like the crazy thing is that the movie's title it sounds good he is no one you would think he would have put out a press release to be like please stop calling me the January man that's not who I am well I mean that's guys what what is Kevin Klein's character

good at okay so yeah that's a good question he has a bunch of aha moments because he notices things on trucks and signs like he has a bunch of those things were like a truck drives by that says prime meets and he's like prime meets prime yeah huh prime numbers but like wait what like why and then I was like okay the first sort of demonstration is that he gets her to he gets the daughter to sleep with him I'm like okay so he's like a lethario type but by the way wait is that wait hold on is that a demonstration of good detective work he follows the he follows the the last you guys it's like first okay how am I gonna catch this murder first sleep with the mayor's daughter the only way to stare at traffic until have epiphany but third have Alan Rickman do it have Alan

Rickman do it Rickman did most of it he got the computer so and then when he has like after he has sex with her is he ups is he upset because she's young like that was a weird like where they try oh what's going on like okay let me just break this down they keep on saying that Mary Elizabeth master Antonio who Carl Tartt said to me the other day he's like man I'm surprised sag let her get in with a name that big but um the we were then hypothesizing is there like another Mary master Antonio and then she had to add the Elizabeth or did she add was there a Mary Elizabeth which had to add the master Antonio we don't know but I mean Carl Tartt really you know as a man who has just two single syllable names like that's the to mirror Elizabeth master Antonio that's decadent

yeah it's too much opposite but they make such a big deal of calling her 22 years old now I'm not agist in any way I believe she's 23 okay 23 she looks absolutely stunning in this movie she does not look like a 23 year old and I mean that in the way and in the nicest way it's wait you mean she looks older yes because she's actually 34 years old when she's making this movie and Kevin Klein is 44 so it's like yeah and by the way that's fine but you can't just run somebody in their mid 30s and call them yeah early 20s I mean they make it like she just got out of college like the way they preferred her and talked to her she's but her her performance I will say yes is also that of an older person like she does not seem to be a 22 or 23 year old just out of college

energy no no she seems to be and then he's he's feeling like she's too young then I'm like alright so you you're not into her anymore but then you are into her so okay are you as a character like a letharia you're good at sex and then he figures out he's about to have sex with her a second time and then he looks at the sky and sees constellations and instead of having sex with her he grabs he he grabs uh uh what's his fate Alan Rickman and they all go to a planetarium I forgot about that yes they go they don't just you know what you know what they don't do they don't just like look up the constellations they go to a planetarium and watch a planetarium show like again she's the mayor's daughter and she just takes off and basically starts living with the

lead investigator of her best friend's murder yes and and is now part of like a little trio bit of Klein Rickman and master Antonio comma Esquire uh that's a law firm that I use um um um and they become like the the the Scooby-Doo gang trying to solve the the January man murders but by the way isn't isn't that also like I guess maybe does make a difference but he is working for the police so now he's like literally in bed with the only like I would imagine well it's definitely a witness and I would imagine suspect on some level maybe I don't know like that's a pretty close per the only person they have the only connection they have to the not January man is her so like for him to get that involved with her and I I do want to say one thing

to Coolop's point is he a lethario no smooth because like I want to play this clip of him seducing her today I see you and I find you very attractive and I'm feeling vulnerable because of last night and so my feeling is my instinct as a man is I I don't want to ask you a lot of pushy questions because I want you to like me in fact I really want this conversation to get because saying these things out loud has made me want to go to the next step and say to you this restaurant's a five-minute walk from seven hotels it is it is and I'd like to get a room in one of them

um right now take you there you would yeah I would is that seductive I mean I don't know she just says yes so that's why I thought it was a demonstration of power yeah but I mean it's one of those things you know she's just gone to her best friend's funeral she's just ice skated at Rockefeller Center so you know she's horny oh my god well I mean so you know she's like so turned on she's like yeah I want to fucking a hotel because obvi I just buried my best friend and have been ice skating it's like it's the oh my god well I mean Kevin Klein I guess maybe his demonstration of letharious power is his bluntness because he does ask Susan Sarandon

how she gets wet how do you get wet with him oh my what the the Sarandon okay I could talk for an hour just about the the fact okay so so when when so Kaitel and Klein are brothers who hate each other and Kaitel is the chief of police and he has to the mayor orders him to bring his brother back onto the force his disgraced brother back onto the force to solve this serial killer by the way that's the other thing the crime is very minimal it doesn't seem like all these cops would be so furious at a guy that was like taking money off the there was like oh you mean the what what what was disgraceful about Kevin yeah it wasn't it wasn't like oh my god that guy shot a cop or he did he ratted out a cop there was nothing that was like it was so benign there was like oh wow I

guess these cops really care about like maybe taking some money off the like the top I guess I don't know so Klein agrees to come back to the force to solve the case with one condition and the condition is that Kaitel lets Kevin Klein cook Kaitel's wife Susan Sarandon who is Kevin Klein's ex-girlfriend dinner and that dinner this is where I was like oh this feels like a play this is where John Patrick Shanley wrote like a big long scene that takes place at this dinner that is this little mini play inside of this movie they're having a conversation she finds something it hit you're right it hits everything he cooks her is gross yeah that's part of it part of the thing is it's a meal that is meant to be not enjoyable right because he wants her to

trust him and go with it like yes that's his whole like his MO is I'm going to make you something disgusting but if you try it that means that you'll be open to things in our relationship I mean what a fucking asshole like it is a terrible and then like he he offers that to now because now he's in love with the mayor's daughter and he's like yeah I want to make you haggis like what and then they have like literally this is the end of the movie they've already found the killer and they go well what's haggis listen I want to make you dinner yeah okay that'd be nice I want to make you haggis what's haggis it's a Scottish dish you take the stomach of a sheep and then you stuff it with the sheep's lungs liver and heart some onions suet and oatmeal and then

you boil the whole thing well I don't know sounds a little weird but I'm game to try it that's a fucking giant scene like why are we adding you describing a haggis and then I will try it all right they're in love what is going on like honest to god like if that's what the if his I guess he's a good policeman I don't think so Jason he's not you know everything I guess I mean movies trying to tell me he is yeah but he really is not a good policeman he really is like it is it is a weak version of a Sherlock Holmes very it is all circumstantial and none of it is practical like this to this to this oh now or or my powers of observation are so great that I'm picking up on things other people aren't picking up he really is just literally pulling words off of the side

of trucks having things like having weird epiphanies simply to move the plot forward not it's not satisfying at all it feels like one coincidence after another after another yeah like for me the january man should have won like yeah these people are bad they're so bad at this job they should they should have lost he should have killed people for years and you're saying that knowing he was in blackface that's how much season sarandon gets done dirty in this film because oh yeah she's barely in it um and we don't really know what her motivation is we don't know why she's like with the brother because there seems to be no connection there it doesn't seem like we understand her character at all but why would the brother be like I know that you used to date my wife I'm

gonna let you cook her dinner just you one on one like like was he and I I say this not because I'm expecting it but like was he like serving it up like we like all right you can fuck my wife if that's if that's what gets you back on the case you can fuck my wife because that seems like where might have been going I mean she certainly comes back the next day with a bottle of red wine to to do it that's true that's true she was so underserved by the movie that I believed she was the killer yes well you wanted somebody to be she was her storyline was so thin and she had so little perceived agency inside of her own story she's just ping-ponging between these men that I was like there's a version of this movie that makes sense where she is the like she is the murderer because

we are not otherwise giving her any we're not doing much to serve her character who is I wrote integral in all of these people's lives you know I wrote some fan fiction down on a piece of paper here and because I was like all right because I was in the same boat I was like what if and it's a little bit of a long shot Harvey Keitel had an affair or slept with Mary Elizabeth master Antonio he kills her and the wife like that's in my mind I was like okay this is like an interesting thing like like these brothers keep on having sex with the same woman gross but like that would be BB his triangle where then like I'm mad at this woman oh no wasn't it would be like the it would be the the friend of the mayor's daughter that's who ivory Keitel had sex with he killed her to keep her

quiet and then the wife finds out about like I thought there was gonna be a little bit of that like I was writing that I was getting deep into trying to figure out how these characters could be related okay okay that would have been good that would have something give me something I was like I was examining I for a while I was like oh Susan Sarandon is the killer that's smart I like that she's like capable she's a badass okay great no then I was like for a moment I was like it's Keitel yeah Keitel is so angry that he is the you know he is the mycroft he is the overlooked one he's being bossed around by Rod Steiger his wife's in love with his brother and then they've got this the whole scene that is obviously a reshoot scene the walk-and-talk scene where Kevin Klein says

that mom loved me my love me more than you my love me Kevin Klein's New York accent is absolute garbage Keitel is just effortlessly New York and Kevin Klein is like ma you gotta get used to it my love me more than you are I gotta say something about this accent too Kevin Klein is known as being a New York stage actor which is a means that he's a man who spent much time in New York around the people of New York and I often find an accent like this is reserved for British people who learn what a New York accent is through Robert De Niro films or like Scorsese films and it's like feels like he's a I said I that is so incredible I had the exact say I felt like this is a British person's impersonation in New York because because Klein feels British Kevin yes at rest yes if you

told me oh well you know Kevin Klein like spent the first 11 years of his life in the UK I'd be like yes I believe you well it's like it's like when Idris Elba when I first saw the like the wire like TCA panel or whatever and Idris Elba spoke in a British accent after like after watching a season of the wire I was like what the fuck but like I never would have assumed that he was a British man but Kevin Klein you're right I would oh yeah if he started speaking like oh no that's where he's from it wouldn't even phase I wouldn't blink of course you cannot convince me he's from New York in this movie yeah it's it's like it and and I mean it when I say like he is a wonderful actor he's not a bad actor at all but he's acting terribly in this movie with this accent because

and I find this a lot that great well I mean but fish called Wanda he is broad and fish called Wanda sometimes dramatic actors when they're doing comedy will push it like will push it bigger and make a broader choice and when I think about that movie I love you to death he is doing like hey I'm a I'm a Tony and I'm the mafia guy like he does that for that movie but if it's inside of that if it makes sense for that movie you know like if it's something then maybe that's okay but see to me this movie is not at all intended to be viewed as a comedy no but I mean he feels like he's in a comedy no no that that's what I'm saying I but I agree with you his performance though is from a comedy you know I'm so confused yeah but yeah but then you get this moment

and you missed me please don't when you close your eyes don't you see my face Nick don't how do you make love to him after me how do you get wet do you think about the money but then you have a moment like that where it's like what we've just stopped the movie and we've now we're going into that direction so like he also as much as he's doing a comedy he will fluctuate and drop and be like now I'm in a fucking straight up drama again going back to that John Patrick Shanley play in that apartment and then the weird three three rhythmic slap that's random oh yeah like boom boom boom and he just takes it rule of threes rule of three

okay so we leave that scene and it's a comedy it really is maybe when she slaps him that changes tone every time she slaps from the tone change it really is I was genuinely like trying to the movie never settles into anything no it never settles into its plot it never settles into its tone it never settles into what I'm any of the recognizable archetypes that it is drawing from you know like it's you know that slap is the slap from Moonstruck let's let's keep in mind same guy right same slap same you know like these elements all are at play in John Patrick Shanley's work but here where they're kind of infused into it's almost like they were like what if we took Moonstruck and inserted it into basic instinct you know or something like or you know jade or sliver or any of

those of the time erotic through jagged edge uh any of those erotic thrillers and it just doesn't work at all the the story is chafing against it yeah my my theory is that John Patrick Shanley is the toast of the town people are like this guy's great they hire him to write a bunch of these Hollywood movies is the toast of the town I think as a playwright yeah I'm kidding oh yeah I just like the phrase the toast of the town I like to you know how I like to speak about people in in the Broadway theater world I like the toast of the town um you know but he is very well known and doing all this sort of interesting stuff and I have a feeling that he does this thing where he sells I mean like these are his movies Moonstruck right without a doubt great um five corners not

familiar with it but it's a canon film movie great movie all right it is okay great all right it's John Turturro it's basically uh it's it's John Turturro's first movie and it's it's all of these it's basically the Yale drama class of that era oh wow um in a movie it's pretty great um or I remember it as great it's Jody Foster Tim Robbins Todd Graff and John Turturro uh yeah so I'm just looking at that right now so okay and then and then you go into January Man which is this movie and then Joe versus the volcano these are the two that are tricky because tonally they're both all over the place I like Joe versus volcano although I know it is bizarre but it is like there's sacrifices there's weird things like so I don't know if it's John Patrick Shanley who writes very grounded

interesting stuff getting rewritten by like a bunch of Hollywood screenwriters so it becomes like a mishmash because the rest of the stuff that he writes is like alive but then he writes the dinosaur story we're back it's is it not can't a lot of the blame is that what this podcast is about blamed the signing play within that like a big part of it fall on the director like yeah I mean you're right yeah the tone yeah the tone you know like and every I'm just thinking like I love Danny Ayo like I love him and every scene had the same rhythm he's angry or he's he gets mad and then he kind of simmers down and he goes okay at the end yes okay he like like a puppy okay every scene he has bluffing play he comes in bluffing full of bluffing bluster and then capitulates at the end

of every scene it's the exact same scene over and over you're absolutely right I just can't understand what they gave these actors because like why does Susan Sarandon go I need to play this part why does Harvey Keitel I need like there's no reason for any of these actors to feel like because they're all done dirty the only two people that are the three the scooby gang they're the ones that have the best showing Mary Elizabeth master Antonio for the most part Kevin Klein obviously uh because he's the star and then Alan Rickman like they have the most to do the rest are just gruff and like the rest are just background characters but they are because because the the January man the serial killer yeah is not a character in the movie they make antagonists out of um Steiger

Keitel and Sarandon in a way yeah but they're not because they but they're not and yellow you know they're just turned out to be assholes like they just turn out to be people who are by the way ill tempered they turn out to be people who are assholes but maybe deserve it maybe they earned it like Kevin Klein if you look at it has been an asshole to a lot of these people like he has deserving of their ire of their like he's literally saying to his brother my loved me more yeah what that's like that is not a an empathic statement to say to your brother that's like he's he's a fucking dick he's a dick yeah to people in the world he's a dick in the in in the investigation he's a dick to the people in power but there's a way in which I feel like he's being framed as like

he's a unique mind that needs to freedom and he should be allowed to deconstruct the kind of hierarchical structures of the police department to bend to his will and blah blah blah I don't know the biggest compliment I can give him is that he is blunt because even when you say like mom loved me more it's like why do you need to say that in that moment why would you ever say that unless it was a reshoot that you needed to like like underscore something because the audience is like I don't get this like but like that's what it felt like to me after the test screenings they're like yeah like why do they hate each other because it's an exposition dump that really reframes their relationship and it's filmed on a green screen so I was like on a green screen

that walk and talk is a green oh my goodness oh my god well there was this side mystery that is supposed to show you that Kevin Klein to exonerate Kelvin Klein's character which is this this check oh yeah what was it check and that was that was proving that Kevin Klein was framed by his brother and it was the it was Harvey Cattail and the mayor that were doing the grift okay right I knew that that's Brandon back in the day took the check and she's been holding on to that evidence and at the end she says I love you and he's like I don't love you she's like here's this check and but I guess like my question was like what does that check show because again I don't know really what happened like what would one check like that he didn't cash it I mean that

that may have been the other part of it like I don't know I don't know anything I'm confused I don't know anything and I don't care that's the other thing because it doesn't matter nothing matters the movie exactly the movie doesn't make you care about the check and that story the movie doesn't help you understand the stakes of any of these things like and so much so that like the moments of discovery for the investigators which should feel like we're getting closer we're closing in like Jodie Foster in Silence of the Lambs right oh wait is that the sequel to that um no no that's the prequel to my I this my new favorite show is uh the show Clarice on CBS I think oh I haven't watched it yet I think that that's the prequel oh my god you're I forget that you're Gen Z

I always forget that yeah I heard it's based on a movie yeah I'm talking about a movie I'm talking about the movie that's the sequel to manhunter oh I only know Clarice I know Clarice I so is it the same actress from Clarice the TV show yes okay go cool uh no no wait sorry sorry okay so so and so anyway so it's Clarice knows it all that's a show I want to see that's a show it is Melissa premium I'm peacock for that show it's Melissa John Hart as as as an FBI profiler solving mysteries around town but she's also can freeze time no Clarice couldn't freeze time anyway so what I was going to say is and I want you to play this please in its entirety but it's so unsatisfying when things happen so as in when Kevin Klein and Mary Elizabeth

master Antonio again a timeless beauty oh timeless phenomenal actor you're on record and maybe maybe one of the most uh significant crushes of my life I need to break this to you yeah once she was filming this movie she fell in love with the director and they married right after it oh god oh god but they've stayed together it's okay it's true what I believe in their love I believe in their listen I'm not trying to get in the I'm not trying to get in the way of Mary Elizabeth master Antonio and true love the same way that I'm not going after Emma Thompson these people are these people are deserving of the love that they have found I'm not going to try and rob them of it even though I would be better as their mates anyway wait so you were saying but you want to

play the scene that I want you to play is the scene where Kevin Klein and Mary Elizabeth master Antonio are discovering what song buddy oh my god buddy I got a cute up I got a cute up right here um I love I love my little calender girl it goes on for so long it goes dah dah dah dah dah and they look at each otherым no wait wait not dah dah dah dah dah it is it's it's absolute it's abject happening it's crazy Because the reality is, once you have those notes, it's instant, like you can just, you can play it.

Like you have the, it's there. Can we just also just break it down and go, this is the plan? This master serial killer is like, I like the song Calendar Girl. And I'm gonna look at the landscape of Manhattan and then play Calendar Girl by killing the girls in the window, which by the way,

also could be just a big problem because how do you know that they're all residential? How do you know that a woman lives in all those buildings? It's a very tricky. A single woman, you know, it's just. It's a very tough, it's a very tough plan to orchestrate. I was just gonna say, think of how much work. If I'm being honest, again,

I'm gonna go back to my previous statement. The January Man has the most compelling storyline in this book. We need to find out what's going on in his mind. We need a TV show like Hannibal. That's just about the January Man. The January Man. Like again, because I'm like, he's doing so much work and research

in order to find and execute all of these plans. He has to isolate buildings to match the constellations in the sky, floors of buildings to find single women on those floors to match the notes of the song. Like there are so many ways this could go wrong for him. I mean, it is, plus he has to get in blackface. I'm assuming to do every one of these.

I mean, by the way, I just really like nuts. I do want to call out the blackface one more time. Because it's awful. It's awful, but it's also like, okay. I'm gonna, as you're listening to this, Jason Club, you can judge me and correct me, but everybody else, I'm just trying to work out an idea here.

Wait, Paul, why are you holding a tin of shoe? Okay, now, hear me out. Paul, wait, Paul, stop. Paul, wait, you're gonna ruin your shirt. Please, please, please. Turn off your camera, Paul, turn off your camera. All right, so I just want to walk it through. The one thing that we know about this guy

is that he is incredibly stealthy, right? There is a deliverance, there is a stealthiness that he has that- Well, Kevin Klein makes sure to mention that he has picked all the locks, which is almost impossible. He hasn't broken into places. He's picked the locks, which is very difficult.

Go ahead. So we have set up this character who I think is not going to get caught anywhere because I guess what I'm saying is why the disguise? Like, there is no reason for the disguise, because he's not blending in. No one's going to see him because he's not out in the mix.

He's not in a crowd. There's no ID. My assumption would be in case he is caught on security cameras going in and out of buildings or in an elevator, in case he is spotted by people coming in and out of a building, anything that could be anecdotal, not necessarily primary sources,

like the person he's going to kill or something like that. It's just a large leap to be like, why not just put on a wig or wear some glasses? This guy is like, hmm, get out the shoe polish, let's do this. I feel like Klein even says in the scene that you played of like, he's nobody. Doesn't he say something like, you know, he could be anybody.

Yeah. So you would think he'd be a milk toast white man. Like, why? Like, it's so weird. It's so bizarre. In a movie full of absolute bananas choices, that is just a very unsettling and unfortunate one to insert into the end of the movie.

It is, it's egregious. But let me ask you this. Do you guys think the scene in which, okay, so the final setup of the movie in which the murderer is revealed and the heroes are vindicated and blah, blah, blah. The final set piece involves the mayor's daughter, Mary Elizabeth Mastro Antonio,

the goddess of all goddesses being used as bait in order to lure the murderer in, right? And what they do is they build a neck piece for her because the murderer always strangles someone with a ribbon. So they build an artificial neck piece for her so that she won't be, when the guy tries to strangle her, she won't be. It's like a hard plastic neck piece kind of, you know,

but okay, so she goes into the apartment. The guy, the murderer starts to try and strangle her and Kevin Klein is then supposed to break in and rescue her. Now, Kevin Klein, using a fire extinguisher to try and smash the door, cannot smash the door down. And she is inside being strangled, quote unquote. Even though you know she's not yet in mortal danger, it is still very scary.

Did you feel like, I felt like, I should say, they were playing that scene for comedy? Yes. Where she was like, Nick, Nick, where are you? Nick, come on. And he's slamming his body against the door. Yes. And he's like, oh, he's giving, looks like this door is pretty strong. I was like, what the fuck?

I mean, again, this is the apex, or yeah, this is like the most dramatic scene of the film. By the way, I will say the one scene that was actually very well directed was the decoy kill scene, which where they follow that woman to her apartment where you don't know her and then he pops out from behind the closet and that just turns out

to be the psychopath. I jumped. Yeah, that was a good one. But that scene, you want to feel like your main character might die and you're like, uh-oh, silly Kevin Klein didn't think this through. Mwah, mwah. Come on.

Fuck this movie. I felt like it was like a long, and it goes on for a long time. It goes on for a long time. And I'm like, at any point, this guy could just pull out a knife and kill her. Oh yeah. Well, that's not the way he does it.

That's not the way he does the blue ribbon. I guess so. Blue ribbon. Blue ribbon. Yeah. So then I thought Harvey Kytel, like with the guy who escapes from the institution and is not the January, the not calendar man,

not January man, I thought like somehow Kytel- And also not the Batman road, the calendar man. Yes, not, sorry. I thought that somehow Kytel and the mayor like had something to do with that and not just some chance thing, like so that they would have like, they would, I don't know, somehow.

So that they could have the public win. Yes, that's what I thought it was. Maybe this is the most pure New York cop procedure ever because there are no connections, there's no dirty deeds, it's just inefficiency and bad police work and stumbling on a killer. It's like, who cares who it is? Ah, we don't know.

Ah, you know, it's like, this movie is all disconnected coincidences and then random epiphanies that lead to an unsatisfying solution. Yeah. Well, you know what, there's no, no wonder Roger Ebert called this movie one of the worst films of all time.

And he did that four years after it came out in 1990. So he revisited his opinion. Four years later, but yep, still sticks. Obviously we have opinions about this movie, but there are people out there with a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions. The movie was a piece of shit. Yet this person recommends it.

Tell me what is the message? Maybe that art is subjective? I need to second opinion. Thank you, John Lajois. These are five-star reviews from Amazon.com. Buckle up, because 73% of these reviews of January Man are five-star reviews. People are very horny for Kevin Kline.

This is from... Oh, okay. Nate Kiley really has done his job here on the research. Many of the reviews are from Japan, and they're in Japanese. So we don't even know, but they are five-star reviews from Japan. So this movie is a big hit,

or I'm assuming because Nate has never said that a majority of reviews are in Japanese. So that's, be that with, yeah. If we have anybody out there that can speak and read Japanese, please go on there, figure out some of these reviews, and then read them to us. All right, here we go. This is from Alita Alice.

She titles it, A Good Sunday Night Film. Kevin Kline, still kind of a tasty hunk. Loved him, miss him in more movies. He is so funny, sexy. The whole cast was good. Bring on the popcorn. I think Phoebe Cates is a lucky woman. Five stars.

All right, interesting. Now you're going to his own wife. Grandma Pat, Grandma Pat. Grandma Pat titled this one, Liked times four. And she says, my husband and I saw it first and liked it. My son saw it next and liked it. He lent it to someone who liked it. I then went to finally see it,

and found out the disc had gotten scratched when the case closed improperly. So I bought it again. So everyone who saw it liked it, and I wanted to see it, and I also liked it. Grandma Pat. Five stars. Grandma Pat.

Grandma Pat. Grandma Pat wanted to see what all the talk was about. What a story. Also, can you imagine her review has so many, so much autobiographical information inside of it. Like, I liked the movie. But the part about the scratched DVD, that was wild stuff.

That is how my mother-in-law tells the story. So, that feels very... I liked it. Is her first name Pat. All right, so this one is, John P. Holloway writes, mark your calendar, dot, dot, dot, good all year round. Sure, no car chases, no explosions,

but an interesting plot with about a half dozen twists. I saw this first in Spain in 1989, in English somehow, and probably viewed it more than twice a year ever since. Scores of friends, and now my grown son and daughter, have found themselves enamored of it. Rickman's turn is a far cry from his die-hard and quickly down under rolls.

Yes, because Alan Rickman from die-hard and quickly down under climb. One of the great disappointment movies of my childhood. Oh my gosh, 100%. It was, it was Magnum P.I., it was Tom Selleck when he wasn't able to do Indiana Jones. Warrior.

Even though they wanted him, so then he did quickly down under and it was bad. Ah, I wanna see that. Oh, we should do that on this podcast. Kevin Klein is brilliant. No wonder he finally got an Oscar for a fish called Wanda. Aiello is just great and Steiger is well,

vintage Steiger. Harvey Keitel is a semi-controlled sibling, a rivalry entrapped and the tension is palpable. Susan Sarandon is a tortured fatale that holds it together. Master Antonio in 100 years will all be dead has been my mantra ever since. The tapes finally worn out and I'm gladly gonna pay for the DVD.

Would someone get me a cup of coffee, please? Preferably an Expresso. Five stars, that was written in 2004. Boy, people love this movie. So wait, so this movie is before fish called Wanda. After. After. But I guess this person saw it and who knows?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, he's watching VHS tapes in 2004. Okay, got it, got it, okay, that's fine. The movie came out, yeah, it came out in 89. The opening weekend, they don't have a budget for it, but it's described as lavishly budgeted. It's not a cheap movie, this is not a cheap movie. Oh no, it's a proper big New York movie.

It must have been very expensive. But good point, I mean, who said that there's no chases, there's no car chases. No explosion, yeah. There's no action, there's really no action except for that final sequence, which was almost like a walkthrough for the atomic blonde stare fight scene.

I was like, yeah, and then I'll hit you like this and then we'll do that. Yeah, the whole final scene is basically, the whole final scene is basically just falling down one flight of stairs, falling down one building's worth of stairs. It's the opposite of the rate. The opening weekend was a record 1.7 million

and the worldwide gross was four million. This movie came in 122nd place out of all movies made in 1989. The top three movies were Batman, Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade, Leath of Weapon II, and it was beaten by these shows that were prominently featured here on the podcast. Look who's talking, Roadhouse, Tango and Cash,

No Holds Barred, My Step Moms, An Alien, and it beat nothing that we have done. By the way, I want to read you the taglines. What a way to start the year, okay? Oh God. Murder, corruption, comedy. So it was billed as a comedy. Oh, wow.

That's shocking. And then this is my favorite one. 11 women, 11 months, only one man can stop him. All right, like I guess, it's not really what we're following. It's not like he's on the trail. He's on the trail of a serial killer for about a week and a half, maybe.

This is a, this is maybe, I don't know. I'm gonna say something that is probably not true, but this is maybe the worst movie that has so many good components in it, right? Well, like three Academy Award winners. An incredible writer, like all of the pieces are so good individually that it adds up to something so unsuccessful is kind of wild.

I just don't even understand why people signed on to, I mean, that's the whole thing, I don't know. Would you guys recommend watching it? And now I'm gonna go first and say, I would because there's so many funny, weird things. It's like, there are, I was enjoying my, it goes by quick, it just doesn't make any sense. There are some funny scenes, the Stiger,

Kytel, IELO scene, you gotta see that. I think you have to see the Surranded and Client scene with the three slabs, you gotta see that. Have you got that whole dinner, the Surranded and Client dinner? That one, right there, so good. The whole, yeah, I agree. I think you have to watch it almost

because it's so, it's kind of just so shocking. You know, your mind is telling you, I believe these, I know these are good actors. So why is this not work, what is wrong? It's like the movie creates a dissonance that is bizarre. Like it is strange to watch because you're like, I know all the ingredients here are delicious, but why does this soup taste rancid?

It's like, the way I can describe it is, it's the way I felt when I realized I needed glasses. I could see, but it wasn't clear to me. I was looking at the chalkboard and I was like, why is the teacher writing so lightly? And someone's like, the teacher's not writing lightly, you just can't see the writing. I was like, right, because it's like, it is there,

I can see the world, it's just not in focus. And that's, this movie is, I mean, and arguably the tonality is really the issue. They made one choice, it's a better movie, it's just a better movie one way. If they would just drill down on something, it would be good. If you were like, if it's a comedic Sherlock Holmes

inside the New York police department, railing against Danny Aiello, great. If you take out Kevin Klein and replace him with like, I don't know, Joe Montaigne or Robert De Niro or Andy Garcia or somebody, like a guy who's gonna be like, nope, I'm just gonna be the New York detective guy, I'm on the case, then you're like, oh, it's more like a Joe Esther house

kind of proper procedural thriller. I would be like, okay, I kind of get what that movie is. But this movie is like a fucking mess of all of these things. It's almost like everybody's actor's secret was that they were in different movies and they weren't allowed to tell each other. Cool up, I wanna just talk about your podcast, which I think is so great.

You and Suchin Park host this amazing podcast, which I think does tell people what the premise is because I think it's a great premise. It's basically we talk about the things that we buy and buy into. So yes, there's a lot of shopping. I'm trying to fill a void that is why a chasm too, too hard to leap over.

But in the end, we really end up talking about what's going on with us and try to like find meaning. Well, but I think what I love about the show as somebody who has been and Jason could, I'm sure can speak this as well. We've all been in our houses and what you buy, like what, there are these interesting things

that define you, like Jason was talking about some of the other night that I was like, like you were talking about you get this, you got at a certain point this root beer of the month club and I was like, oh yeah. And it's like, but what are these things that bring it? Oh yeah, no, earlier, I had to stop doing it because I was like, I don't normally drink soda like this.

This is crazy. You know, I'm not a soda drinker, but I read something and then I signed up for a thing that sent me like a box of 30, like regional root beers, like not like A and W or whatever, like really like small batch root beers. And they were delicious, but I was also like, this is like a cry for help.

This is like, if anybody saw, if anybody opened my fridge and saw 30 root beers in there, they would be well within their rights to be like, this is grounds to be institutionalized. I'm surprised that you didn't just like take two out at a time and just put them in there, but because I hide them, I have like a fridge where I hide my canned wine.

Secret fridge? Oh, I have a garage fridge, which has been the best thing, secret fridge. Oh wow. Secret fridge. But I do like that. You're right. Cool up in the sense that like our purchases,

during this period, during this year, probably more than ever, our purchases are super revealing about who we are and the things that we are trying to, either thirsts we're trying to satiate, both literally and figuratively and everything else, you know? It's a great podcast. Thanks. You will love it.

And your documentary origin story is now out on Blu-ray, right? Yes. So that is also out for people to consume. When we've talked about this before on the show, it's a great documentary about you and where you're from. And it's a fascinating story.

And if you haven't checked that out as well, you gotta check that out. Really. And you solve a murder. You solve a murder. You solve a murder inside of it. And your documentary is at originstory.colonjanuaryman. Yep, yep.

Check that out. You see that on Amazon, bros. And this coming fall, you are the showrunner for Clarissa Explains It All, right? You guys, I am not allowed to announce it yet. So much good stuff for you. Cool off. So excited.

It's been a great demi for me, you guys. Jason, what do you want to talk about? Anything to plug, anything to do? Close enough, season two is out on HBO Max right now. A great animated show that I'm one of the voices on. And I'm not sure, depending on when this comes out, the Invincible animated show based on the Robert Griffin animated series

is going to be out on Amazon soon. And it is fantastic. Amazon killing the superhero game. Boys in Invincible, like wow, great job. No big time. So good. I will just plug that I'm in a movie. Right now, you can get on VOD called Happily

with a killer cast of people like Joel McHale, Carrie Bache, Kirby Howell Baptiste, Shannon Woodward, Brecken Mayer, Charlene Yee, John Dailey, Steven Root, so many great people. And that is on VOD right now. And if you want to check out some fun stuff that we're doing online on Twitch, you can check out twitch.tv slash friendzone.

And there's a bunch of different shows every week up there, twitch.tv slash friendzone. It's just like YouTube, you can just get on. A big thank you to Cody, our super producer, our amazing sound engineer, Devin. Of course, Averill Halley, our producer, who picks all of our films. And Nate Kiley does all of our research.

A shout out to July Diaz, who makes sure the show sounds as good as possible. And a tip of the hat to the ghost of Craig team Nelson, that's Zach McElise. And also Kyle Waldron, who do all of our great art. You can follow us on all the social medias. And if you want to talk about January Man, you can give us a call at 619-PAUL.

ASK. That's 619-PAUL-ASK. To get the sex figurine from the Jade shirt. It is released, it is out, what I drew. What do you mean a figurine? Well, I mean, or the figurine that I drew of people having sex, my stick figure of sex. Wait, have we made an actual, like, figurine? No, no, no.

I'm calling the stick figure. Sorry, the stick figure drawing. I get it now, I got it, I got it, I got it. The stick figure drawing is now available. So check all that out. That is all we have. I literally was like, are we currently making a desktop figurine of that stick figure fuck doll?

Cool, I have to show you this. I'm going to send you the clip of what exactly happened. We saw a sex pillow in this movie, Jade. And I was trying to describe the way I thought it was used in sex. I see it right now, Molly just sent it, and wow, Paul. Really good art. By the way, yes, it was a very quick draw.

But I will tell you that many of the people I spoke to after that episode came out in the sex pillow world were telling me that I was right on the money. I'm sorry, I'm going to stop you right there. Many of the people that you talked to in the sex pillow world, I've got a lot of questions about that. A lot of people said online. How many people are there, and why are you, and you're talking?

Well, they were talking to me. They were talking to me, and they were saying, hey, I just want to say that you were right. The liberator will send you these. And I was like, no, I don't need to have anything sent to me. So wait, are you now the My Pillow Guy for sex pillows? What's happening? If the price is right, I'm going to get into that game,

because why not? I mean, what are people doing right now in the pandemic more than anything? I mean, listen, we have, listen, on T-Public, we put out T-shirts. We put out all sorts of merch. Why not add fuck pillows? I mean, branded fuck pillows.

Like, Paul, use what is now obviously very deep connections. Have you guys talked about the liberator? You know what, I will now. I mean, once you guys do, how did this get made? Fuck pillow. I'm definitely going to talk about it. We will add it to cart. Well, thank you, everybody, for listening.

We'll see you next time. Bye for now. How did this get made?