How Did This Get Made? - Matinee Monday: The Snowman LIVE! (w/ Bryan Safi & Erin Gibson)

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Starting point is 00:01:06 Shhh! We are live at Largo, our favorite place to perform our LA home, one of Jason Statham's favorite places in the city for a night to talk about a movie known as The Snowman. It came and went faster than a literal snowman in the theaters, and we're going to get to why this movie, I think the most beneficial thing about it for me, or the best part about this movie was the fact it was on HBO Go and I didn't have to pay for it. And my library of shitty films, happy not to have that one punk just sitting there. To talk about this movie tonight, we have an amazing guest because tonight is a, how did this get made?

Starting point is 00:02:05 All-Star show. We're doing a little bit of a podcast cross-ever you'll learn about that in just a second. But first, let me introduce my co-host, Mr. Jason Manzookas. CHEERING Jason. What's up, jerk?

Starting point is 00:02:24 CHEERING What's up, jerk? Somebody's got a funding balls sign, as I believe one of the first times that someone has made a sign for the show. We'd like to see more of those. We would love more homemade signs, our words that I will regret later. And what I like about the homemade signs are words that I will regret later. And what I like about the homemade signs is not only,

Starting point is 00:02:49 are they fun for us, but they play great for the people listening to the podcast. It's an audio medium. Jason, Paul, I know you're a big Joe Nesbo fan, the author of The Snowman. I'm a Nesbo head from back in the day. You've read all the Harry whole books. Oh, are you kidding?

Starting point is 00:03:13 I, we call it having been made whole. Ha, ha. Is he the Norwegian one? Is he the Norwegian Jack Reacher? Yes, he is. First thoughts, Jason, right at the game. And this is... I was...

Starting point is 00:03:32 This was a challenge. This was tough stuff because I'm... Wow. I don't know what this was. Yes. Because I'm, wow. I don't know what this was. I'm told backstage it's a movie. I was confounded by every single choice. There are like three quarters into the movie. I said, I wrote in my notes, does this movie take place in Norway?

Starting point is 00:04:07 I like Jason. None of these people, Bo. Chloe Sevingy is there. Twice. What? Where are we? These are not Norwegians. What's happening?

Starting point is 00:04:26 I was confused. Some people chose to do an accent. Others did not. Some people were fully 80-ard. I'm looking at you, Val Kilmer. What was that? You can't... I genuinely thought it was like a Norwee gen actor.

Starting point is 00:04:45 Yes. Because it was a different voice. And then I was like, that's Val Kilmer, but it was like, our girls are going to very, very. What sounded like a less muffled bane. Um, well, well, break down. I have so much JK Simmons, what's on this this movie on this was on the surface

Starting point is 00:05:10 This was it on the surface to watch On the surface this movie Presence like this is gonna be the next sense of lambs. I mean there's no doubt we fucking about it We fucking did it. Nesbo. We got Nesbo. We're basing it on Nesbo. Marseille produced. Marseille's supposed to direct, dropped out.

Starting point is 00:05:35 Smartest one in this entire process. We'll get into it. The best performance in this movie is Dunlame Snowman. Is it the two-sided snowman? Because I thought that snowman had rain. That snowman was great. That snowman we loved, that snowman, and Jack Frost. Same snowman, the guy gets those parts and nails them.

Starting point is 00:06:03 Higher snowman to do snowman roles. Uh, all right. This is a movie in which Michael Fastbender is the worst detective in history. This movie is a triumph of the villain, but for his inability to notice where to step on the ice. Had he not jaded? No. He would have won. He would have killed everybody. He would No, it's Quarrelers. I couldn't be more excited tonight to introduce our guests.

Starting point is 00:06:53 And they're from a hilarious show, another podcast, that they're just great. They're fantastic. Please welcome the hosts of throwing shade Aaron Gibson and Brian Safey give it up for them Turned on my television. Yeah, I Welcome, I feel like this is a classic inspector gadget penny situation Fumbling his way with his metal arms through something very serious and a woman on his side doing all the leg work.

Starting point is 00:07:34 Who was also an idiot. Everyone in this movie, I was truly baffled, stoopified, dumbfounded. The more on. Morons. The way he is the worst detective who has ever. The worst, ever. And this is the fucking guy who did let the right one in.

Starting point is 00:07:50 Yes. Who did fucking Tinker Taylor seamstress spy. Yes. He did all seamstress seamstress. Yes. Did you do that? He did Tinker Taylor. I'm sorry.

Starting point is 00:08:00 Did you just introduce the lady? What? It's just one of the great spy stories of our time. If you haven't seen Tinker Tailor, seamstress Hooker, you're doing it. It was a cinematics movie. It was a John McHare book, not the one that people like.

Starting point is 00:08:15 Yeah. This was, I mean, it was baffling. It really was baffling. Here's the one thing I know about this movie that gives you a little bit of insight into why we are absolutely confounded by this. They have gone on record as saying that the director has gone on record as saying because of something, he was unable to shoot 15% of the script.

Starting point is 00:08:37 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15 to 20% of the script remained unshot. And said it so casually as if he were like sub-Soulid for fries. Like just like, was straight up like, oh, I just couldn't shoot like a fifth of it. Here's the thing, by the way. We did a big oops on this one.

Starting point is 00:09:00 But he didn't have help. Well, here's the thing, they did go back for reshoots. So in that world, you missed 20%, you went back and got reshoots, but you didn't attempt to get any of that in there. I don't know what this movie was about. I don't know who this movie was about. But I thought what they did really well was make Val Kilmer look just like Kurt Russell. Yes. Ah, it's true.

Starting point is 00:09:31 Agreed. He really went down to like someone else entirely. How did this get me? How did this get me? Never before have I found coffee beans so terrifying. All right. That opening scene, the coffee bean tortures scene. What happened to the coffee beans tortures scene?

Starting point is 00:09:52 The best part of waking up is coffee tortures scene. It's not that he was whipping those coffee beans at that woman's face, but when the camera pan on the ground, there were so many on the ground. Like how many questions did he get wrong? Like maybe 70? It's exact. The movie starts with a question about Norwegian parliament.

Starting point is 00:10:17 Yes. None of these people appear to be Norwegian. No, I'm not. All right. I have a lot of facts about this movie. I'll tell you one, which is they may be. Is the movie, is the movie? A movie completely funded by Volvo.

Starting point is 00:10:34 That's the question I have. Here is a Volvo production. Here are a couple things that I'll just drop out to know. So this movie was made in Norway because of a big text credit in Norway, okay? So they apparently had very little time to prepare. They were in London and someone said, you're gonna make this movie.

Starting point is 00:10:56 They were gonna go, what? And then Michael Fassbender literally wrapped Assassin's Creed, got on a plane, and landed, and started shooting this movie. Well, he should have gotten on a plane and crashed, because I have to be honest. He needs to fire everyone who works there. I've never seen such a great instrument. That's the one to fire.

Starting point is 00:11:15 That's the one to put you at that point. He should literally fire everybody. He'll represent everyone. Everyone. He'll be like, how? Yeah, how did this happen? Absolutely. Well, I'm sorry, wait.

Starting point is 00:11:24 No. Michael Fassbender deserves every fucking blame for saying yes to this movie. Everyone, you're like, how? Yeah, how did this happen? Absolutely. Well, I'm sorry, wait, no. Michael Fastbender deserves every fucking blame for saying yes to this movie. He's not a person who's like, tell me what to do. He's like, all through this movie. Oh, I'm like, yeah. Yeah. You know, for sure he does.

Starting point is 00:11:38 And here's the thing we know for sure he does. Yeah, we know for sure he does. We've seen that. We did get a good underwear scene in here though too. It lingered on Croscaria for a second longer than. Had to be in his writer. Right, yeah, I felt like I was like, all right. But he, so here's the other.

Starting point is 00:11:54 Oh, he met this drawing medicine out, sexy. Well, here's the other biggest thing that I think just shows you the problem with it. So his name is Harry Holt. Sure is. Ooh, which, that's a real problem. Right. But now, this movie is based on a book,

Starting point is 00:12:10 a very famous series of books, so we may talk about it for, but the character's name is Snoot Hole. Yeah. Ha. Ha. Like, the character's name was found like, Hole.

Starting point is 00:12:22 Right. It's so, they, Americanized it to call him Harry. Like the simplest choice, because once you say it once on set, you'd be like, oh, you know what? That doesn't sound right at all. Let's play with this. And that's where the laziness started with this movie.

Starting point is 00:12:36 They were like, Harry Hull, who can do it? All right, yeah, keep it. I'm exhausted. Like if they had changed his name to Harry McPherson or something, there would be one person at the end of the interview going like, his name is Harry Ho! But by the way, just calm Harry Ho Ray. Like you don't need this, like it doesn't need, like, you know what I was saying?

Starting point is 00:12:53 You know what I was saying? Or change his last name. Keep it Harry, but change it to snatch. Yes. Pets. You know? Harry Snatch. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:13:02 Like Oslo's most notorious bad boy homicide detective, Harry Snatch. Uh-oh, sleeping in children's playgrounds again. What's going on? What is going on? What is going on? By the way, where is this movie? Just narcoleptic murders.

Starting point is 00:13:22 It was on the ground outside of a bar. Why? But how great were all the parents and children that didn't, by the way, they shouldn't have been playing in that ice storm. But how great, they know and really reacted to him. And he got out of there. He was like, oh yeah, there's a homeless guy just sleeping in that bed.

Starting point is 00:13:41 No, but the children there are absolutely insane. Well, that's the most important thing Donkey phase. That was the most exciting thing I'd just sleeping in that bed. No, but the children there are absolutely insane. Well, that's the most important thing. Donkey face. That was the most exciting thing I'd ever seen in a movie. Oh, we're supposed to just buy that. She loses her parents, and they're like, live her mother. Just your mother.

Starting point is 00:13:54 Just your mother. Yeah. Just your mother's still in the pic. But not in the pic where she takes a donkey mask, puts it on, makes noises, and we're supposed to pretend it's a drama. No, no, no, joke. What are you doing? No, that was my friend, that's vendor. That's vendor comes in big.

Starting point is 00:14:09 Oh, I know how to soothe the girl's mother was just found missing. Yeah, do the end of pronunciation, he haunt. Yeah. This is a movie in which multiple times, the murderer enters the scene that the person is in on the phone. The person's like, hey, what's up?

Starting point is 00:14:26 Anyway, I'm just here at the house. The murderer enters, we, the audience, see the murderer. Like, cross camera. And the person's like, okay, I'll touch you later. Oh no! Oh shit, I'm murdered! Here's why I know, here's why I know that book was written by a fucking man Let me tell you something the woman. Yeah, I go into my house at night, and I have a husband and a dog

Starting point is 00:14:51 And I have a husband and a dog I Walk in my house. I fucking throw up in the shower curtain I look in every cabinet because in cases it's a tiny murderer We are on a little like that little Wayne's brother is murdered, a little man. Yeah. We know which shit is gonna go down. Also, this is how terrible the detectives are.

Starting point is 00:15:14 That's the other way when you get hit by, oh, hit by a random snowball. Like, she didn't do anything. She does nothing. Bitch, I'm on the other side of the street running. That's right. She knows. She gets hit by a snowball twice.

Starting point is 00:15:25 Twice. In the back and once in her window, she goes back to that book, you deserve to die. You deserve to die. You deserve to die. Honestly, if someone, you've been lulled into a false sense of security

Starting point is 00:15:37 because you're Norwegian. Yes. She, honestly, like, she got hit by a snowball. I was like, Os Oslo is that cookie? Yeah, but what do you imagine? I mean like no, this is American style, but murder Fuck this movie because she gets hit by a snowball and then what does the camera do an overhead shot of the parking lot? We're no ones around which is impossible We're no one's around. Which is impossible.

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Starting point is 00:16:36 The third ending is the best. I do like this is how terrible of a detects it. First of all, no one has blinds or curtains in their homes in this movie. Oh yeah, everything is wrong. Fuck it. Everything's on full display. Everything's on full display. Also the like first clue the detectives come up with it's like I Notice something it seems like he kills whenever it snows. I'm like it is In Norway, how about this?

Starting point is 00:17:00 He's killing every fucking second every single crime scene has a snowman. It is now Man, you can get once Michael fastender get the note with the Siamese he's the Siamese Nobody ever says have you noticed? There's a fucking snowman and Every crime scene also he says he's like by the way, I'm a snowman.

Starting point is 00:17:26 In case you missed it, here's the drawing. Like, the one with those the 15 pages when he turned to Rebecca Ferguson is like, is it weird? There's a snowman at every crime scene. By the way, I'm no snowman expert. But thank you, June. Uh. snowman expert. But thank you, June. But to build a snowman is a very

Starting point is 00:17:49 labor intensive problem. Where are you getting the sticks? I guess he's waiting. I'm not that worried about that part. The snowman is a clean stick in Norway. What's cold? I care at nose. No. You just like to capitated someone in a very interesting way. I was like, OK. Ha, ha, ha that right? That's what happens. That's like, okay, time for you. You go outside and build a snowman while I plow your mow. To your Uncle Father.

Starting point is 00:18:32 Don't worry about it. It's Norway. The two things that I want to do. And whatever you do, don't drown the coffee. We talk about windows, a lot of windows, but a lot of windows that look into bedrooms like from a high level. Yes! Everybody lives the worst.

Starting point is 00:18:51 Who's fuck on his desk? It's all the look in the other window. And like him looking in, and then the daughter looking in at the mother, like, that's the... And then Charlotte Gainesburg, because the house is the same thing. It's like street level full window access

Starting point is 00:19:03 that we can see everybody in this. Well, she doesn't think one goddamn song in the whole movie right Charlotte games yes the singer I did I don't want to see her I want to see her break it to song wearing a skirt in every exterior but I I applaud I well but good continue about your I'm a question her working it where's the fucking puppy what do you mean I saw a puppy at the beginning of the movie. I either want to see that puppy dead. Oh, do you mean you saw the puppy when the killer who had just killed and was playing that

Starting point is 00:19:33 crazy song in Chloe 70's house? Buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, with white horse, straight up vangabas. Go up up for it. And then, fucking, then the killer is pretending to work on his home and that song is playing again. By the way that song's playing again. By the way, that's not bad. Harry holds his name in the detective.

Starting point is 00:19:49 That song, Hot Butter's Popcorn, has played twice in the last 48 hours. Oh yeah. And this motherfucker's life, and he's like, that's not weird. Yeah. And the last time, it's 100%. Can I go, can I go back to the hotel?

Starting point is 00:20:03 Can I go back to the hotel? Can I go back to a second more to go? Back to the fucking beginning where the guys like oh, yeah, you got black mold in here. Is that tied at any? No, is this a fever dream from the black mold because it makes about as much sense but it's like all right so your house is being severely renovated 20% they were like stroke of the character yeah it doesn't it just a whole see story they didn't get to shoot about his how he like put a new sink in and like extra causes but like. But like, why introduce that if it plays no part in your story?

Starting point is 00:20:49 Probably because Michael Fassbender was like, what is this character's flaw? And the director was like, what if he had black mold? How about the fact that he is? Oh, because, sign me up. I'm leaving Assassin's Creed right now. How about it? I want to be shooting by morning.

Starting point is 00:21:04 At the beginning of the movie when he arrives home and the guy is like fumigating or spraying whatever. And the guy's like, man, make some noise. Fast-thedded, a pull the gun and shoots. And only doesn't commit murder by being a bad shot. And he tries to murder that man. The guy has no reaction. This guy.

Starting point is 00:21:26 I don't think this guy noticed. I mean, here it is. He shot a gun at him. Why is he wearing so much eyeliner? So much eyeliner. So much eyeliner. He's an-a-he's fumigating a man's apartment. He's like, guess what?

Starting point is 00:21:39 I'm also emo. Why? Everything about this movie that tries to be scary or like ooh is Backfired is it supposed to be a dragon tattoo is that what is this the lady's that vendor was like I can do weird shit and snow Yes, she watch me. Oh, yeah, Jerry's out. Oh, yeah He's like I want to be hip-deep and snow by the end of this movie Yeah, and for it to make no sense And I would like to also I want to go on onto a frozen lake and call a man out who has a gun. Yeah

Starting point is 00:22:15 Again again, I would argue bad at your job I would argue in that shot the camera is as wide as it can go You're like where are you just right off camera? I'm still close enough to shoot you No, like why not put it in the forest want to put it anywhere Why not here's the thing if you're back a fast vendor why not instead having rescued Charlotte Gainesborg not singing and Oleg your son not son why don't you stay and protect them Don't go out and find the man and challenge him like like come on

Starting point is 00:22:52 I also have to say for a movie that is a mystery I found everyone to look vaguely similar. Yeah, Charlotte Gainesboro looked a little bit like Ferguson and the blonde woman who was killed in the house looked like the blonde woman who was killed nine years ago, which I didn't even know was a flashback. And I was watching you. Chloe Sevene, you know, I did. Chloe Sevene, you look like the other character.

Starting point is 00:23:12 Chloe Sevene, you're just playing. Oh, Chris, go ahead. It's because they all had bangs. Chloe Sevene is so criminally underused. And then when she died, after she was chopped and chickened, using an accent that truly was from bars and then immediately killed, I was like,

Starting point is 00:23:28 that sucks she was only one scene and then the other one pops up and it's like, oh, I'm her twin sister. Can I ask a question? And I'm like, great, you're in the movie. Nope. Can I ask a question? I feel like.

Starting point is 00:23:37 Was Chloe Sevinge married to Mateus? Her ex husband. She's, her ex husband is the one that calls in that she's died. And she calls him and he's like, if you do that again, I'm gonna call it please, I'm really pissed that you cut to, it's zip-zap, he like, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip-zap, zip- Snowman in some sort of weird bomb shelter thing. I don't know what, but that must mean Mateus is her ex-husband. Well, I think that part of that sex ring is part of this too.

Starting point is 00:24:13 Like, taking storyline, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, which is also like, Because who did she call? Just say like, night and night. And they never tied up that. Just JK Rowling just comes and goes in that movie. By the way, when JK doing an accent for the first half of the second half was like, nah, fuck that.

Starting point is 00:24:30 Definitely. JK signed up for this movie and was like, I am a living for this. I feel like, I feel like he waited. I feel like he waited. One Oscar in the middle of this movie was like, oh. Don't you all, I also feel like going back to the accent of Chloe 70 like everyone's like Oh, yeah, we're shooting this movie in Norway and then they're reading the script on the plane for the first time Like oh, it's in Norway people Norway don't have accents. They got off the plane. They're like oh

Starting point is 00:24:59 Like it's it's your Norwegian accent. Just hard. Yeah. Whatever from the cab ride, from the airport to set, that was where they did their most research. There are, I'm just looking at my notes on a macro level. Yeah. And there are so many things that have three to five question marks after it.

Starting point is 00:25:24 There's, this movie puts so many things that have three to five question marks after it. This movie puts so many things in motion that it just simply does, like the minute it went seven years earlier, I was like, what? And by the way, I was watching it pretty intensely and I missed it. I missed, I missed seven years earlier too and there's no sense of people wearing different clothes. I don't know if it's a little dead. No, it doesn't matter.

Starting point is 00:25:43 Val Kilmer's storyline takes place in the past question mark. Yeah. And in service of what? I also thought he was not dead. Like I was like, oh, he faked his death because he got too close. No, no, he was dead.

Starting point is 00:25:55 I would love to talk about Oslo police HQ. Oh, it was the best. We mean to me, a dead of dog bill. A pure, which appears to be like a library. Appears to be a really lovely place to work. Yes, also ping pong. 10 minute demonstration on how an iPad works.

Starting point is 00:26:19 And, but like, what is that? You swipe left. But there's a man at the top of like a tall ladder. I was like, I feel like the minute people walk out of the room, they shoot like a Jake Cruecat a lot. And he's like... And then like, Rebecca Ferguson's leaving the room and the phone rings, everybody's like...

Starting point is 00:26:37 The phone is ringing at the police station. What? This is the police station. Well, it's because of that. I I feel like that in defense of that moment, I think it was Harry's phone that was ringing. Yes, it was, but who cares? They looked at it still like they've never seen a phone ring. Well, look, this is a culture that we've established.

Starting point is 00:26:59 The year is 2017, and the best thing to an iPad is bigger than most. It's a clamshell. What was that? What was that? What was that? To briefcase with a camera. But they kept explaining, like, so to turn it on, you do this, and like 10 minutes later that woman who's not like an astray was still like explaining every part of it to us.

Starting point is 00:27:21 And she was like, swipe left here, swipe right here. And I was like, shut up! And it looked like the footage they were getting on there was really bad. Brainy. Yeah, and then it was like, but great to hide. Like when she puts that giant-ass camera in the bookshelf, like, and it looks like a trunk. That's crazy.

Starting point is 00:27:41 Bigger than an old film camera. And like, now they don't even, the film cameras that they use now are smaller. Oh, no, it would be real. Yeah, it would be as if in 2017, you walked in and somebody was like, oh, I'm sorry. There's an Apple II E over there on that shelf.

Starting point is 00:28:00 Like, what's going on? It was a desktop. It was like book, book, book, and death. Everybody, at some point, his, the fast-bender boss goes, you know, I'm sorry, we don't have more murders for you to solve, you know?

Starting point is 00:28:14 Because apparently there's, but that's the only thing that helps you understand why there's such bad detectives. Yeah. It's because they have no murder. But he is the fast, right? And fast-benders using the secret, because he's because he's like please please God make me a bird so I can Solve a lot of murders. Yeah, he wants a murder for part of the movie

Starting point is 00:28:33 I thought fastbender was doing the murders out of boredom. Yeah. Yeah. Oh At least I'll do something to do I Feel like every character in there just should have been like, can I kill? But you were saying backstage with the right before we went on, I'm just so funny. Don't tell them what I said. That's the stage why.

Starting point is 00:28:51 Oh, sorry. Okay. It's very illuminati oriented and it has to do with the top floor of the celebrity center. Okay. No, you were saying that the mother when she dies at the beginning

Starting point is 00:29:02 is smiling on her way down. Oh, yeah. That was a tough moment. Oh, unsettling. Just... Staring at her son, smiling. What's better? What's better? Being hit every goddamn day of your life with coffee.

Starting point is 00:29:26 Or murdering yourself. I mean, is also the way it's like, is it Kate McKinnon? Honestly. Like, very real, very real question. Is this Kate McKinnon? It might be. But by the way, like, is this a ghost,

Starting point is 00:29:40 must just be cool? What's so weird about this? And this is like, what's so weird? It's like, like, they take away like, what's so weird is like, like they take away all sympathy for the mother to be like, this is how I'm gonna kill myself in front of my kid like this. Not like, never like, I love you, I'm sorry.

Starting point is 00:29:56 I guess she's catatonic, but I don't really even understand what, like there's this, like she knows that he's there, like the stronger choice in my mind is like, just look forward. Like, but the fact that she's making eye contact. Make it, she gives you the look's like, she knows that he's there. Like the stronger choice in my mind is like, just look forward. But the fact that she's making eye contact. Making it, she gives you the look that like, intelligence he gives you if you ask for a straw. She's like, ah!

Starting point is 00:30:12 Here it goes. Look at her. Bye! Bobo! You sponsored by Volvo. Yeah. I mean, that is such a crazy fucking moment. Like, and that's like you open the movie on and then I thought

Starting point is 00:30:27 Did you guys think that that was Michael fast-fenders? Yes, the whole time I thought I was I think you're supposed to right oh? I assume that was part of the Well, this movie that storytelling because it's like why would you why would you? Why would you show this and then fade into Michael fast-fenders? Yeah, the logical yes, the logical leap is that was that was him. Fade in to him, fucking drunk at a children's museum.

Starting point is 00:30:49 No, a children's park. And then give no reason why he's fucked up. I don't know, why is he, why is he an alcoholic? He presumed, you have to have a reason to be an alcohol. Agree, what the, yes, it's not a disease. No, it is, no. You have to have a reason. it's not a disease. No, it is no Exactly it's an annoying friend Finally someone said it. Yeah, pressure

Starting point is 00:31:15 Or just hand you your fucking liquor we know you just do yeah Whatever the movie is the here's part of the reason the movie is so bad is that it is It's a it's a mystery movie in which it is constantly giving you Mr. X that do not help you you don't get ahead of it like yes cutting from this to him sleeping in the thing Suggests he is that kid, but he's not so as a result you're like I can't I can't play at all with this movie Also, I don't get it. I don't get to weigh in, I don't get to be ahead of it. I don't get to guess. I just, you could point it at any character and be like,

Starting point is 00:31:50 uh, that's the murderer. Yeah. This movie. You're not, it doesn't take you with it. What? This movie makes you a fucking victim. Yes. How did this get me?

Starting point is 00:32:01 How did this get me? Also, what was so, they gave us Harry Hole. They also gave us the term. This was also a lazy, I love it. They gave us Harry whole they also gave us the term this was also a lazy Tremendous the term pregnancy doctor She's I'm pregnant to me if you're saying it that way by the way that scene That scene had my favorite thing in it which which is like, I think my wife is cheating on me. How do you know?

Starting point is 00:32:26 Oh, well, she's just gazing at him in a magazine pick, which you're not even together in, like, no. Like, man, she's married in it, man. I love that. I love that. Fucking, like, I love it. Look at this bachelors- That's your craziest thing.

Starting point is 00:32:41 Yeah. It's not like all three of them are together. It's like, not like you see a guy, oh, here's a photo of them at an event. It's three separate photos, but her eyes are like, on JK. Honestly, how insecure as a spouse do you have to be to look at that picture and be like,

Starting point is 00:32:56 are you fucking him? In this composite shot that none of us are there for? Why is, when I see the back of a man's head. Okay. My panties get so fucking soaked. Okay. By the way, can someone explain this part of the story to me? Because it doesn't tie into anything.

Starting point is 00:33:17 Yes, okay. Okay, and a little bit, I think. Okay. So, gentlemen on the far right. Yes, JK Simmons. We know. Oh, far right So gentlemen on the far right. Yes, JK Simmons. Well, no far right. Far right, the husband. The aunt, Beast by Dre guy.

Starting point is 00:33:30 What? I don't know, he just wore Beast by Dre. It made me really confused. Oh, yes, he's wearing headphones later. Yes, you're right. So he and that's his wife. Yes. They in Bergen or Bergen.

Starting point is 00:33:40 In Bergen. Bergen are they have, he has a family business of some sort that is big time. JK Simmons comes in, he becomes a shareholder in their family business, he then muscles them out. Okay. He sells the land that their business is on. Wow, this is all the movie. A fortune.

Starting point is 00:33:59 Okay. And I believe my understanding is she might be one of the first people. She also disappears. Right, she disappears in a way that you must presume you're meant to believe is to cast doubt on JK as the snowman killer. He's been killing since her. God. But that is not the case. But he's doing something else.

Starting point is 00:34:21 Yeah, no, he's just like a cool purve. But is he running like, but I get that he likes to quickly shake pictures of women. Cool. How about when he does that turbanca Ferguson, he's just like, okay, that sounds good. It's like, just we have some flash. She's the react.

Starting point is 00:34:41 There's a flash, one inch from her pupil, and she does not react. He's not a fan. He also is thinking with the flash. She's not gonna come out, great. But he, but all right, so, but then, but what is his, so I know he's getting the Olympics there. That's the thing, but then there's a flippity down here. Is it the Olympics or is it the World Cup?

Starting point is 00:34:58 No, it's like a nothing. It's an either, it's like something, it's something in between. It's like a world sports winter. Yes, yes. I thought the party where there are full on fucking skiers going through. I thought it was a new hockey.

Starting point is 00:35:12 That made me want to go there. I thought if I could attend a ball and be pummeled by hockey pucks every which way, like that's a selling. I would love to go. It made me think that everyone there was walking on fucking solid ice. I would love to go. It made me think that everyone there was walking on fucking solid ice.

Starting point is 00:35:27 They had to have been. There were active skaters on the back of the place. It truly was right. I'm not sure they weren't blading. No, the patrons? No, the donors? No, they're philanthropists. No, the people skating were on rollerblades.

Starting point is 00:35:43 No, they were skating. I knowblades. No, they were skating. I think skating, but you might be all right. She's absolutely not right. They were not rollerblades. You don't see their feet? They're too lazy to show you their feet. They did see their feet. I could do this.

Starting point is 00:35:57 All right, so just to draw this line, just to finish a circle. This circle is right here. I wrote, now there's abortion doctors. So the abortion doctor, fertility doctor, whatever that thought was. Oh, Ivana, Ivana or something. Yeah. I liked it. I liked it too.

Starting point is 00:36:10 Mr. Downfall, British scene. That was the best scene. Wait, sorry. You liked the guy running the prostitution race? Yes, I thought he was like, I thought the queue was really good. Like, I thought that was like, I related to him. I thought he was the hero of the move. What? Because what he was doing was good.

Starting point is 00:36:26 Yeah. Oh, I just didn't know. And like looking at his weird feet, as he was cuddled up on his coat, jazz, walking to police. Like that to me felt like the most, like if you said to me what scene feels the most like a door. I guess, I don't know.

Starting point is 00:36:41 I guess. I don't know who that is. His shirt was open a little bit. But if you were saying to me, hey, it's a Norwegian detective movie, I think that scene feels like the only scene that belongs to me. It was creepy. Yeah, it was creepy. He was great.

Starting point is 00:36:54 But now he is doing what to women? Giving, oh, it's sex ring. Yeah. OK. He's actually telling that. And I only know this because I read the Wikipedia page. Not because the fucking movie told me. OK, so he's running a sex ring with JK Simmons and his spirit gum Cocker's Daniel beer

Starting point is 00:37:10 Sure and so he's bringing women to an underground carousel. I don't know where they were It was like an underground silent movie theater. Yeah, I don't know what the fuck was going on there But yet like why did he mean they're fine no problem with a full just VCR camera? Everyone has iPhones JK and why don't you just fucking have it? I why won't you put that iPhone on the shelf? She needed like a crew She's filming a clandestine meeting between JK Simmons the fertility doctor and some the fertility doctor, takes her top off. She's recording it with like a Commodore 64.

Starting point is 00:37:48 Yes. But yet, it's a world in which people have iPhones. It's wild. This is how bad Norway's police are. That's right, Norwegian police. We are putting you on blast. I thought there was something funny about the politeness of Norwegians, because at one point the mom gets a text, she pulls over.

Starting point is 00:38:10 Oh, that was a nice, so responsible. That was so Norwegian. Oh, yeah, I'll pull over to answer this text. You know what, other technology thing I didn't buy wasn't even technology. The fact that they were like, hmm, let's figure out where this woman went. Let's look at her physical calendar where she hand-roared all of her appointments in in different ink.

Starting point is 00:38:30 It's like, oh, she's supposed to be a fucking business lady. And she's like, na na na na na. What do I do on the 12? Didn't you think that the daughter's phone was disturbed? Oh, sorry. The daughter's phone was going to be important. The daughter had taken picture at one point.

Starting point is 00:38:46 And like, there was all this stuff that was feeling like, I kept feeling like the movie in order to obfuscate what was happening because otherwise, you would figure it out instantaneously. Had to put a bunch of like nonsense McGuffins into kind of distract you. I literally, at one point when they were on the train meizing the kids compartment in the train and the guy

Starting point is 00:39:10 Playroom weird specific that he like that's where he works. Okay, so anyway When the guy comes in the step that comes in I'm like if this motherfucker is the killer I'll be so mad. Oh, and then the fucking second he sits down and it's like, I'll cover for you. I'm like, oh, so you're the killer? Yeah, that doesn't make any progress. Well, the minute I saw Toby Jones, I was like, uh-oh.

Starting point is 00:39:34 Also, what happened here? We got Toby Jones in this movie. Toby Jones is probably the killer. I think that's what happened. What the fuck? No, what does he do in that movie? You saw on the video? Toby Jones is there.

Starting point is 00:39:42 Yeah, Toby Jones is pointless. I think Toby Jones is there literally to make you believe, well, he's like Toby Jones is a killer. Yeah, yeah. Obviously he's the killer. He looks like a real creep. But no, it's not at all. He's just like, he only exists to give shed light

Starting point is 00:40:00 on the Val Kilmer character in the flashback. Wait, who was Toby Jones? He was the one who played Capote that wasn't Philipsy Morehop, and that was the like, and he was the famous Norwegian actor, Toby Jones. He was in the Hunger Games, but he played, yes, like the,

Starting point is 00:40:16 the, what, the adversary of Val Kilmer character. But why did Val Kilmer hate him so much? And he like walked out on the roof of the police praising, and I was like, what is this leading to? Leading to nothing, and also all this weird But why did Val Kimmer hate him so much? And he walked out on the roof of the police praising and I was like, well, what a bitch leading to. Leading to nothing and also all this weird VO conversation happening via walkie talkie. Well, just like seem like, oh, now they're,

Starting point is 00:40:35 it was so crazy. Here's the thing, you're what was being said on the walkie talkie, you know. I mean, just so you know, like, I mean, it's more the choice of this. The get Val Kimmer, he's recovering from, he called the cancer healing, but from throat cancer. So he clearly couldn't speak in the movie.

Starting point is 00:40:54 So what I think happened is he does his lines, but because he can't speak, he is probably speaking with like a, like a list or something. So then the ADR guy has the compensate for his weird lip movements. So then his like, oh, I tell you this much. So that's weird. It's been as truly do anything for the extra, for the any bonus footage of that ADR.

Starting point is 00:41:18 That's it. Because it's like, how do you match his lips? Because his lips aren't really the movement because it's watching. And then at a certain point you have to go, you know what? We love having, we're gonna pay you out, we're just gonna get somebody else, because you have a guy who is supposed to be

Starting point is 00:41:32 the parallel of the other guy, solving a murder with worthless. Like he doesn't, he goes through such great lengths to just, no, no, no, no. And it's like, to do that, it feels like that's really harming your movie. It'suh, no, you're like, and it's like, to do that, it feels like that's really harming your movie. It's like, no, it was like watching, it was like David Lynch,

Starting point is 00:41:50 it was like watching that little guy who's like Laura Palmer. Like, it's like Twin Peaks. It's like speaking backwards in the room. Yes, that dude was like rock ramp. Rock ramp, yeah. And here it is, I mean, we'll just, we get, we're talking.

Starting point is 00:42:04 Look at, watch how much he looks like Kurt Russell. Oh, awesome. City of Burgundy years earlier. That's Goldie Han. Not Victor Garber. Here it is. Uh-oh, folded page. Along the sheep and missing.

Starting point is 00:42:26 Like two danks. Can you pause for a second pause? She said. I thought that we were meant to believe. We were, I felt like, but at first I haven't, they were masking his voice like it was going to be a reveal later. Right.

Starting point is 00:42:42 And in fact, it's just of bad, ADR voice so because I'm like is it Norwegian is it what like here you'll listen to again it's pain a friend and she never came back And they also do so much in the back of a set Oh whenever When every talks it's on the back of his head because they can't laugh and match the lip motion. Yeah Whenever he talks it's on the back of his head because they can't laugh and match the lip motion Why did you come to me? I've been suspended

Starting point is 00:43:14 Because you're a friend Great detective I don't want anyone knowing about this just yet not yet. I don't want to go to the police Can you tell me? Paul, can you pause it? I want to remind everybody listening and who's in the room tonight. Both of these characters are Norwegian. Yes. They also made an executive decision as movie to remove anything in Norwegian, any license plates, any titling, weird, because it's in, it's in also, it's like, they have- I would have loved it, and honestly,

Starting point is 00:43:48 I'm not kidding. I would have loved to have seen more of Norway. Yes, I really would have. There's more, at least it's pretty. At least it's pretty, yeah. What, who, because I don't know anymore, like my brain is so fucked up, like this could be British as far as I know

Starting point is 00:44:01 after watching this movie, who speaking in this movie is doing an actual Norwegian accent? Is there one person? I don't think so. There's not one person. I don't think one person. I just invented an ad of access. Yeah, I don't know.

Starting point is 00:44:15 I mean, clearly JK Simmons and one of Chloe 70's characters are doing an accent. Are doing an unacquired. But it is clear, like there has been no effort made for even the main characters to sound nor we know. What, okay. Michael Fassbender, Michael Fassbender. Rebecca Ferguson, Rebecca Ferguson.

Starting point is 00:44:37 But I will say this, without saying much, Val Camer is like, you see, oh, you don't need that many words. Like, he just gives a lot of stares. And I'm gonna be honest with you, like this is a performance I feel like that has been duplicated. I mean, this is Bradley Cooper

Starting point is 00:44:53 is doing this in a charis boron. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that?

Starting point is 00:45:12 Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that?

Starting point is 00:45:20 Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the end of that? Who's the I was just like a backpack. I'm just wearing a good shirt and a good shirt. You're out of pretty good voice, right?

Starting point is 00:45:27 I love your nose. Don't be scared to me. Are you a guy? Are you a dude? I was born in 1940. Did you vote for us and how? What shampoo? I can't, I can't. I can't, I can't.

Starting point is 00:45:49 I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't.

Starting point is 00:45:57 I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. Screet Harry Holies as a detective with that Harry Hope man.

Starting point is 00:46:05 We love it. It's hilarious. That fucking Lee press on nail at the end of the movie tapping on that mug. Yeah, we're a solid fight. Just like tick tick tick or Taylor. Seem sure it's by like just like that noise was so great.

Starting point is 00:46:18 And the way I didn't even know that your finger is gone. No, and it's like I'll take the next case. And it's like well, are you gonna tap your finger on the mug if you take the case? I can't believe Rebecca Ferguson got killed. Wait, she got to get killed in the books. But what? She doesn't?

Starting point is 00:46:35 No, she's like a character in these books that exists for many more books. This is why we need me too. Wait, Rebecca Ferguson's character doesn't die in the blood. Also, by the way, she's also smiling in a car when she dies. Yes.

Starting point is 00:46:52 That was definitely. With her head on. With her head on. Everybody's like, perfect. Yeah. What killed her? She did it with car- Her finger dropped.

Starting point is 00:47:00 She lost her finger and she couldn't touch anymore. Yeah. I don't know. All I know is he looked out a window. There's a snowman on top of his car. If she lost her finger and she couldn't touch anymore. Yeah. I don't know. All I know is he looked out a window. There's a snowman on top of his car. And by the way, the snowman zooms, and this

Starting point is 00:47:12 were triple dramatic chipmunk like. Oh, my man. And just carrots. And it's the first test screening. I laughed every single time. There's a hairy hole. Every time you saw a fucking snowman. A snowman.

Starting point is 00:47:24 It works every time. It really does. Like as a key and every time you saw a fucking snowman. A snowman. Yes. It works every time. It really does. Like, as a key witness, to keep zooming on a snowman. And by the way, how did you do that snowman on the car? Like, you'd have to, like, so much work. Like, got, got up there, but no footprints. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:47:36 There are so many times when Mateus must have been building the snowman, such that people could have seen him making this snowman. Yeah, I like that the two face. Can I talk about the editing for a second? I want to play this. Which edited by by the way, Thelma Shoemaker. Right, who edited a raging bull? That's part of the disease.

Starting point is 00:48:02 Yes, that's what he produced this. And that's Michael Powell's wife. Here we go, I'm sure. But actually he's edited by two. I mean, like a pretty legendary person. Yeah, one of the best. It is actually edited by two editors. Both super highly recommended because,

Starting point is 00:48:18 and they're not together. So it was like, fuck, this is what I got. And someone was like, let me take a shot. It was like, I got. And one of's like, let me take a shot. Who's like, I got. And one of them was released, or they were merged together, but like, clearly, two A plus editors, like, eh. Like, maybe we'll just jump on a podcast one day.

Starting point is 00:48:39 I think that's the most shocking thing about this movie is the right actors, the right director, the right cinematographer, the right editor, and just a colossal fuck-up. Oh, so crazy. Alright, so this is the editing. Just watch the choices here. Maybe yeah. Unfascender. This is the entrance scene where he comes in. This is the entrance. See where he comes in. This is his apartment. This is his apartment. Just wait a second.

Starting point is 00:49:08 Okay, boom. Jump cut. Jump cut. Weirdly a jump cut even though he's walking very slow. All right. Next to you. Dog. There's my puppy.

Starting point is 00:49:19 Boom. Fire, fire, fire. Dog. Gun. Guy. How are you? Back to it, but I just love that the dog that dog go and why the dog at a reaction shot Well, I think the movie should have been 85% more that dog. Dog gives one a best fit. And what is it? What is it eating? Ha ha ha ha. Good dog.

Starting point is 00:49:46 I'm a dog with a shot. Oh, you scared a puppy, Michael Fassbender, you asshole. Boy, that's a cute puppy. It's so cute. Also, Michael Fassbender takes care of this dog, how just like pours water on the floor before he leaves. Oh, no, it's not, it's the guy who's removing the mold's dog because remember later in the movie when the bad guy

Starting point is 00:50:08 is in the fucking hazmat, so he walks out and then the guy's like, clearly at a bar with this puppy, because that's what you do. I thought he, hey bro, what's up, roomy costume. I thought it was a blackout adoption because when he wakes up at one point,

Starting point is 00:50:21 he sees the concert chick as he bought for his son. He's like, shit. It's buddy like, but he was so drunk, he's like, I point he sees the concert chick as he bought for his son. He's like, shit! His buddy was like, but he was so drunk. He's like, I want to drop the puppy! He just went, and he just dropped the gun. He wakes up in a sea of bup- Poor Oleg, by the way. Poor Oleg.

Starting point is 00:50:35 Just treated like shit at every turn. Why? Anybody in this movie admit who their fucking kid is. Yeah. Yes. Because at one point, he's not as point. He doesn't make any sense. He's not as dead. He's the boyfriend of his mom, I guess,

Starting point is 00:50:50 after she already had him. No, but he is his dad. No. No. What? No, fast bender? Wait, fast bender is not like that. Well, we're really sure that Gaines

Starting point is 00:51:00 is really fucking singing, and she's like, should we tell him you're his dad? No, she says, he says that the boy says to fast vendor at one point. You're not her boyfriend anymore. And so I think he said, and then in earlier Gainesboro, I was like, you know, I think you would like to see you at the house. But she wasn't like, you're his dad, why are you being all weird about it? Also but I still don't know. Did anybody know?

Starting point is 00:51:27 It was a day just like I target women who married to people who don't know who their sons are. Yeah. So was he trying to like, and what was the idea of giving fast vendor like sleeping pills or putting that other pill there? Why was he always trying to drug fast vendor? Oh, and didn't the guy put the pills? Yeah, the killer did. Why? And what and didn't the guy put the pill in there?

Starting point is 00:51:45 Yeah, the killer did. Why? And what is Diasa Prim? What is that? I don't know. I sounded like a sleeping pill. It wasn't the thing that made me sleep more? Yeah, it sounded delicious.

Starting point is 00:51:54 I don't know what it was. It was one of the pams that I was all in. Also, why is the fast vendor sleeping? Why? He's a drunk. He's not all the two. What did the two. He had a weird high school experience, so he's an alcoholic now. Right. And he's asleep because of it. You could have found out about it in the books, the previous books, the bat, cockroaches,

Starting point is 00:52:18 the red breasts, the nemesis, double stars. These are the stuff titles. Yep. The Redeemer, the snowman, the leopard,, the Phantom, the police. Why haven't they made all of this? This is really, he was like getting ready to make his Marvel, this is it. It's true. There's never been more, nothing primed for a sequel like, I'll take the next case. And then it was like, you. She has cuts inside her mouth.

Starting point is 00:52:42 Yeah, what a crazy kill. The idea to see that set up a sequel to this movie is hubris. It really is. Paul, I see a file that I'm so interested in, because I wrote down the region, Moby. Okay. And I think you know, perhaps what that's in reference to. Weird, there's a weird, they go to a concert.

Starting point is 00:53:06 Yes. And it's, and no one, no one is having fun. Now, one person's enjoying this. Well, because they're essentially watching, like, male Bjork on stage screaming his face off. This is, oh my, ex-birthday concert. This is his birthday. And by the way, he, if this is my, if my,

Starting point is 00:53:24 this is my ex-boyfriend who is my sorry good father took me to this, I'd be like, do you hate me? But it's also so weird, it's like, yeah, I got these tickets from a guy at work. Like with no explanation, like, you want tickets? Yeah. Great. Oh, for a hamburger, thank you.

Starting point is 00:53:46 Like, it didn't seem like you asked any. If the B-52s didn't make music or have lyrics, this is the concert they went to. I thought it was like, really bad spoken word performance. It was the worst concert ever. Like, this is the Norwegian Henry Rollins. Sure. It was very Henry Rollins. This is it was very Henry Rollins. This is like what we understand no way to be.

Starting point is 00:54:09 Here we go. Welcome to the tickets. No one's having fun. No one's having fun! No one's having fun! Everyone is the key! The music is against what he's doing. Look how many FCCs here are on! This movie shows that this is unsuccessful.

Starting point is 00:54:39 Except for this one guy, one guy is on his feet. This guy's having the time of his fucking life. Like, they didn't give the audience, and this guy's taping it. They didn't give the, this guy's actually part of the crew. He has a smaller camera than Rebecca Ferguson. You know that, you know that song I hope you dance?

Starting point is 00:55:00 That's, it's about this guy. I thought it was like ballroom blitz at first but here we go but it's neither like metal it's not hardcore it's like I don't know what it is yeah where's the band what is what's happening I kind of want to read the book now just for that I bet you would I bet it would make the movie more satisfying because there's clearly a lot of stuff in play. But again, keep in mind, they did not shoot. 15 to 20% of the scorer.

Starting point is 00:55:40 And by the way, they also Johnny Greenwood recorded a score that they're dealing. No, we were using it. They didn't use any of his scores. What? That was a mistake. Yeah, huge, but by the way, it's not like, oh, it would wreck the movie. The guy that- What?

Starting point is 00:55:55 Any Norwegian person we talked to was like, it made perfect sense. It was terrifying. I was on the edge of my seat. The references were incredible. And the linchpin of it was that dude singing. And if you missed the reference, you didn't get it. He's revealing the killer at that moment. There was like a really, everything is garbage,

Starting point is 00:56:11 everything is garbage, and there's a moment where Charlotte Gainesburg not singing comes over to Michael Fassbender's apartment, and she's like, I miss you, and I'm like, oh great, I'm gonna see two hot people, fuck. Nope. Yes you do. I think they do fuck at home. They try at home. They try'm gonna see two happy people fuck. Nope. Yes you do. I they do fuck.

Starting point is 00:56:26 I tell you. They drive us. No, they fuck. I thought they fuck. No. No fucking is what you're both wearing clothes and you're rubbing it to each other, right? That's just rubbing?

Starting point is 00:56:35 Yes. She gets it rubbing by a brush on top. What is this? It was fucking. What is this? This looks to me like sex. That is, it can't or not undog. She got his ribcage, doesn't sex? Microfacepatter is not interested.

Starting point is 00:56:55 By the way, why would she be interested? I know. Yeah, maybe you're right. I thought they were calling you out. No, that's not fucking you guys. No, it's pants. Cool. This is not your rock.

Starting point is 00:57:08 No. No. No. Are you shitting that out, my friend? No, they're not that good. No, look at the bunch. This gets up. Yeah, that's true. Sorry. Oh, that's true. I misunderstood that too. Well, so the so in order for a woman to fuck you have to put your vagina on a dick. Well. So you know what though?

Starting point is 00:57:45 And this might be, that might be Norwegian sex. I think it is. Oh, bellybutton. They're like a tourist. They're like a tourist. That's what George Harrison wrote about when he wrote about Norwegian words. Ah. She did get pregnant though after that.

Starting point is 00:58:01 I once wore a sweater dress and can I say, I hummed his jeans. If she did present it. It rode me until nothing much happened. Then walked away. We both care about Oleg. He's not my son. You're fucking the murderer. Isn't it good, and are we?

Starting point is 00:58:25 We're gonna get to you guys. Is anybody here from Norway? Please be. There's a lot to get to, but this is one thing we've never done in the show before, a little bit of a game. The trailer of this movie has a lot of scenes that are not in the movie, which is surprising for a movie that they didn't shoot 20% of. Let's keep a little bit on the cutting room for,

Starting point is 00:58:45 and there are things that I wanna go through, show it to you, we'll talk about it, and see what we can see, what could this have been. All right, so first scene is this. It's a photographer taking pictures of a dismembered body in the middle of a museum. But this looks like a gorgeous scene. I would love to have seen this.

Starting point is 00:59:08 And this is the dude who is talking to Val Kilmer. So this is in the nine years ago. Nine years ago, but there is the wisdom of my life. Is that his wife? I bet that's his wife. That's his wife, but that's the way her body was found on the mountain. Well, that's the thing,

Starting point is 00:59:22 there's all these things where the murderer compartment or takes apart the person's body and rearranges it. Yeah. So I wonder if this is that, but with that, guys. I don't know. But that's not the murderer. So it was. It was like police.

Starting point is 00:59:36 Yeah. So okay. Also, he's sure that Kinsburg at some point explaining these paintings to somebody. Isn't there a scene where she's working in a gallery or something? Yes. That's not these paintings, but that is true. Oh, where she's working in a gallery or something? Yes. That's not these paintings, but that is true.

Starting point is 00:59:46 Oh, by the way, that was when I wrote down. She said, you scared away my clients. Oh, but he scares her in the mirror, in the window for like five minutes. When I wrote down, at that point I wrote down, this movie should be called Pensive Looks Through Windows. Because I started keeping count, and I literally was like, I lost count as everybody

Starting point is 01:00:03 was like, window luck. Everyone everybody was like, window look. Everyone's looking through window look. They locked his for like five minutes while she was with a client. And then she didn't reappear in the movie for like 40 minutes. I wrote down, where is Charlotte Gainesmore? Here's footage number two. This looks like part of the implantation from the, this, the sex therapist.

Starting point is 01:00:27 So what? I mean, what do you see here? What do you see on the other? It looks like a diaphragm full of yogurt. Yeah. I was seeing it maybe. It looks like pouring milk into a condom. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:00:39 All right, so there's that. Don't know what that scene was. Don't even know how that fits in. Wait, what is that? What on earth? You're in the dark glass blowing. There's that. Don't know what that scene was. Don't even know how that fits in. I don't even think that- Wait, what is that? What on earth? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:00:49 Or glass blowing. It does look like a female of condom. Yeah. So that's what I think it's like, attach that thing to- Why does it have to be gendered? Sorry. It could be a male condom.

Starting point is 01:00:58 Snow person. So that's like some weird jacket. Why is it called snow person? I'm with you. Here we go. This is- That looks great. That's right. Why isn't it called snow%, percent? I'm with you. Here we go. This is. That looks great. He's shot.

Starting point is 01:01:08 So we know he shot fastbender in the scene. He's stopping a car in the road. So what happened here? Yeah, that's an entire, that's an, that's an, why is he holding his shoulder? Because he shot here. He shot lower when he shot on the ice. So this is a scene where he gets in the car and he's like,

Starting point is 01:01:27 yeah, crazy day. Can you take me to this cabin for my- Killer, so I bet you maybe they reshot the, well, we'll see, I have a theory about the ending, right? So that's that, he's like, get me out of this movie. That was his, that was his, that was his him in a Norwegian highway.

Starting point is 01:01:43 Okay, here we go. And this is, here's the last two. This is Chloe. So as we know Chloe, she's just chopping the heads off of chickens, turns around. There's like a baby, a sweaty, baby doll, yeah. A sweaty baby doll.

Starting point is 01:01:56 But now we see this. She's clearly been running and then limping and steps in a bear trap. So I was sure that again. So there's the bear trap. She's running. Be still, no build up. Bear trap.

Starting point is 01:02:15 This was it. There's a C-word clue. He's seven. He gets caught in a fucking bear trap. And they were like, cut it. But out of that even tie it to anything else because he just comes up behind her. Shit. I love when this shit happens because I just

Starting point is 01:02:31 like the idea of like Chloe bringing someone to the premiere and being like, there's a great scene where I get stuck in a bear trap. And then the friend, I just picture halfway through the movie going, liar. The fact that- The fact that- I wrote, I wrote, oh, Chloe 70s in this movie,

Starting point is 01:02:48 some version of that. Okay, and then I wrote, I wrote, like whatever, two lines later, Chloe 70 plays two parts in this movie, when she was like her sister and I was like, I don't know where she is. I was like, what's happening? The place has become love boat level crazy.

Starting point is 01:03:04 You play two roles and you're on screen for 45 seconds. Honestly, and anytime that I was like, oh, this will be interesting. They're like, oh no, I'm our twin sister, right? It's not related. This isn't confusing for you. I don't worry. I wonder if it's important. Maybe the re-shoot was adding the twin sister. Like, we just need to make this movie weirder.

Starting point is 01:03:24 Now you're doing it. So tragic. This is the one that confounds me the most. Okay, so here we go. It's a barn. It looks like the barn from the end of the movie. Blowsion. And a bite.

Starting point is 01:03:39 Whoa! So... Is there an alternate ending where... Like... Charlie Gaseberg's house. Like this is how that is clearly the house. Something explodes. Explodes the house in such a degree that it should be made out of gasoline.

Starting point is 01:03:57 Um... And who's in there? Don't you feel like they shot at ending where like everyone dies and like Michael Fass that Or dies and then other guy does his Titanic ending and like Michael Fass and they were shot at they were like it's too sad. They all should die except for the villain because the villain is clearly The smartest person in the movie by far. I wish everyone gave a two-camera interview at the end of this movie Explaining why they were in it like I was JK Simmons character was like interview at the end of this movie explaining why they were in it. Like, I wish JK Simmons character was like, so at the end, nothing is resolved with me.

Starting point is 01:04:29 I literally drop out of this movie. I was like, it happened in a movie, like, I guess. So yeah, I did try to have a good time. You know, things got a little bit off the rail. It just, yeah, my character isn't explained at the end, but, you know, what's up? Maybe sequel, I like the idea of a post-credit sequence like that where it is. It's like, you know, what's up? Maybe sequel, I like the idea of a post-credit sequence like that where it is.

Starting point is 01:04:48 It's like, you know, what happened to them? It's like, here's my best guess in the hacker. The way I was able to go home on the flight and justify it or tell my friends is like, yeah. Is that we got the winter games? I went to my hallway full of beautiful tapestries. The girl wasn't there. I took a nap.

Starting point is 01:05:05 The only thing that made sense in this movie was when the villain was on the train with Michael Fassbender. And he was like, yeah, I'm going to a conference about using hormone therapy to prevent aging, because who's going to need plastic surgery if you can use hormone therapy? And I immediately grabbed my laptop and I was like, is this possible? Is this a real thing that's happening?

Starting point is 01:05:27 Let's get into the crowd a little bit because we can stay here all night but all right, let's go into it. People, let's see what you have to say. All right, let's figure out what I'm going to make you do for this. All right, I'm going to do your, you say your name and your best ADR voice for Val Kilmer. All right, so you don't have to do the whole thing, but just your name, okay. So, and your question. My name is Patrick Schoenberg. Great. Yeah, so my question is, at some point in the movie, essentially what happens is we see

Starting point is 01:06:12 like one of the speakers at the party where everybody is, you know, like the JK Simmons thing is going down. He goes there and he reads his note from earlier in the movie that he gets from the killer and basically says, I saw you pass out outside. Yeah, I was guarding mommy, don't worry about it. And at no point does this superior in the police force go like, yeah, why were you passed out outside? No, but he calls him back to that.

Starting point is 01:06:39 So like, why is his alcoholism never a point ever again or is his passing out in a children's park done? Or that he seems to be part of an active serial killer's plan. Like, the serial killer is communicating with him directly and he barely mentions it, doesn't call any attention to it, and even though the serial killer's signature is a snowman and that there's a snowman at every murder site, he still doesn't put any of it together.

Starting point is 01:07:11 He's awful at his job. When that song plays again, and he's just like, let yourself out, great to see you. Hey, get out of here, get out of here. What? How about the... Buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop No, he's just like, I'm going to spill some water on the floor. Maybe a dog will come like it up. Here's my other question that I was confused by, and I didn't rewind it because I didn't care, which was, you talked about him passing out on the ground.

Starting point is 01:07:56 There is later a picture of him in a frame, right? That's like on a mantle. In whose house? His ex, girlfriends. But is it like a mantle in whose house? His ex-girlfriends? But is it like a, where is it? Well, is it at the house of Mateus? Oh, it's Mateus' house. It's the killer's house.

Starting point is 01:08:13 But the cabin? No. No, it's like his house. It's his home, right? But yes, but why would he have the picture, like, by the way, why would he have all the proof of his serial killing out? Oh, he's got it, he's got it laid out.

Starting point is 01:08:26 They always want to get caught. He's got to laid out like printouts of every person he's killed. And also frame photographs. Like that one of him passed out in front of the bar was a, like he's like, I'll get a frame. He keeps in mind.

Starting point is 01:08:39 Keep in mind the killer is a medical professional. He's a doctor and he still has time to make like all of these. He lives with the wife. Yes. No, he doesn't live with the wife. He's wearing apron. What? No, he wears aprons with her.

Starting point is 01:08:58 What? He does, he wears that apron. He does, he doesn't live with Charlie Gaines. They're not married. No. No. No, because wasn't there a discussion about moving to the country? No. Okay, sorry.

Starting point is 01:09:09 And the country you wanted to go? He's the person Oslo the country. Like, what, we didn't see a city center. I just saw cliffs and ice. Yeah. So fuck you Norway. I goddamn dare you Norway. Jason.

Starting point is 01:09:22 To pay for us to come to your country and do a show. I have to be honest with you, I would actually love to see a summer Norway movie. I think that'd be beautiful. I would go to Norway any minute. Same. By the way, bring us Norway. By the way, read one of the many Joe Nesbo books. He'll bring you there and you'll feel like you're in.

Starting point is 01:09:44 Yes, your name and your question. and the Val Kilmer ADR voice. Just your name. Nikki? No, okay. Okay. Are you sure we brought mine? So at the point where the female detective is suspended and sent home, he breaks into her apartment and then picks her up and slams her into the ground so hard.

Starting point is 01:10:19 And then he lies down on top of her while he screams her him to get off and he makes the weirdest face. And then they have like a fucking 16 candles moment where they're just sitting beside each other going like what are you thinking? I'm he's like a real Jake Ryan No, he lies a little bit he lies on top of her like she's having a fit or something Also, remember when she fucking dies in his car and the next day, there's two people crying at the office and he's like, Jaya fucking dies, yeah pussy. Like he's like, doesn't care at all that she's dead. I'm never.

Starting point is 01:10:56 All right. And she's Val Kilmer's daughter. Yes. And no one explicitly said that. I have an, I haven't understood a word anyone said that. Is there anybody said that? Did everybody go under the sun? He goes, why?

Starting point is 01:11:11 Why are you cuddle bear? And she's like, oh, because what is it? Oh, clout, cloud bearing. Cloud bearing. You know, the term everyone here knows. Pup, pup, pup, pup. Yeah. Oh, we haven't even talked about, are you guys leaving the shotgun?

Starting point is 01:11:27 Are you guys leaving? Why? Did you love the movie? They're Norwegian. They're Norwegian. Who leaves at this stage of the podcast? They're so mad. If they come back, I swear to God, let's get them. They, um, they've been your well over an hour.

Starting point is 01:11:51 I want to go. By the way, how dumb was it that the snowman killer put a snowman head on the blown off part of Velkomer's body knowing it would melt? Yeah. Like, how it would melt. Yeah. Like, how unsatisfying. Yeah. By racerachiller, you leave your mark, you don't want it to fucking melt.

Starting point is 01:12:11 And then it goes, what are those coffee beans on the floor? Uh, boy. Yeah, that was a real stretch. It was the uncle father's whole coffee torture scene about Norwegian history. Yeah. Literally the first line in the movie was like, what's your favorite thing about Norwegian parliament?

Starting point is 01:12:31 That's what's like, that's what's, yeah. That's what's important. We're a movie for a movie. That's worth dying for. But by the way, for a movie that seemingly wants to separate itself from Norway, Weird way to start it. We start off, we got truly, we start off so specific about Norway.

Starting point is 01:12:49 I don't even know if he's right or wrong. It sounds convincing to me. The stakes are zero for us. All right, here we go, sir. Also, I know it's not about this, but she is so much hotter than him. Oh, the first time. The first time.

Starting point is 01:13:04 Oh, for sure. She looks like a fucking Williamsburg barista, and he looks like my fucking alcoholic Catholic uncle. But by the way, Kudos is movie for the grossest sex noises. It was like, it was like, oh, that's the noise that that man would make having sex with that woman. Like, it felt right. It wasn't, yeah. All right, here we go.

Starting point is 01:13:31 What are from? Great. Just to go back to the whole Norwegian history opening scene thing, he had a full on test. Like filled out, whose test was that? Yeah, whose green. It was like a history test in a class. Like it was fully filled out with correct answers

Starting point is 01:13:54 and more, like, well, I also thought that they were setting up this idea that he wasn't like a real Norwegian kid. He's like, you need to know this. You can't get away in this country without knowing all this shit like yeah you're Canadian but we're gonna fucking make you Norwegian like it's also just like is this like is he comparing him to his like real family is that like his real sons testes comparing it was just like who just test was that and what were they do like are

Starting point is 01:14:23 they ice farmers? Why were they isolated? Like, because when he left, it seemed like I won't come back to give you gas. But then she's a car. Oh, yeah. Like, at first I was like, oh, there are prisoners out here. And he said, home school kid and it's a sex dungeon.

Starting point is 01:14:43 And then I was like, oh shit, she's got a Volvo? Yeah, live in large. And then he's like loyal to Red Volvos. This was a nationalist movie a little bit. Because his mom died in one. Yeah, but by the way, it was the the same Volvo because you can commit suicide in those. You clean them right up, they're on the road. They're not going to, yeah, that's a good car.

Starting point is 01:15:13 They just got to try out. The great, great resale, man. All right, here we go. Here we go. Mackenzie. Great. I was wondering if any of you noticed the opening car chase scene, how it's obviously toy

Starting point is 01:15:25 cars on it? Yeah. I, okay. This is so pretty. No. I can roll down. Is this a toy car? And I was like, aha, that can't be that.

Starting point is 01:15:35 And now that you say it, did anyone else think that? I didn't see that. No. I believe that. Oh, they can't drive on snow. So it was toy cars. They did like a shot of it. I was like, so is a power wheel?

Starting point is 01:15:47 I mean, rewatch that scene. I wish I had that. I will not. Thank you. Here's what I can guarantee. I will not rewatch any of them. I truly, I feel like I would be meeting royalty. Or I don't even know.

Starting point is 01:16:04 Like a for-leaf clover, if I ever met someone who saw this movie twice, it would shock the bitch shit out of me. I did not shoot 50 into 20% and it's two hours long. It's in 50%. They didn't shoot 50 to 20% but yet there's a guy in a shed with like a little power car. Just like, okay, yep, we got it, we got it.

Starting point is 01:16:27 Okay, here we go. Your name and your car. Marshall. Right. I thought it was hilarious when they were in the hockey game for Oleg. And she was like, how did you remember to be here? And you like, put his sleeve up, his arm just said, oh, leg. He mementoed his wife, but even his memento was vague.

Starting point is 01:16:56 Boy, hockey game, four o'clock, got it. That's amazing, great. What was the thing that he used to decapitate people? That's a new thing, right? Yeah, I feel like it was a doctor's thing. Yeah. Oh, just when doctors take your heads off. Yeah. You know that they wanted that to be like that Anton Shagur. Completely excellent. That's our fucking thing, man.

Starting point is 01:17:20 And also, there was like the whole section where he was like, click, click, click, click, click. And a wrong answer. Click, click, click, click, click. And a wrong answer. Click, click, click, click. Oh, actually, right answer. Click, click, click, click. I was like, what the fuck is this? What like, version?

Starting point is 01:17:33 How does this end in jeopardy for Norway? Yeah. Yeah. What I liked about the instrument when you finally see it used against, um, close 70, is that like It goes around it like it's not super quick. It's like Pop like you know, it's like it's a patient patient killing no, it's like a singer sewing machine

Starting point is 01:17:58 It was a whole it was like a badasler. I was such a confusing I Bet you that he didn't always kill people like that. And then the test audience is like, more of that crazy tool because it may have been like bear traps. Like Chloe 70 felt like three bear traps, and that's how she got to capitated. I bet you there more of that cool killing machine. Yeah, maybe.

Starting point is 01:18:21 Yeah, the whole time they were at the director, it was just like, how would no one die? Let's invent a contraption. Yeah, let's invent. Yeah. Twist ties. All right, yes. Crystal Farmer.

Starting point is 01:18:33 Right. So just looking up what could be the, looking at, you know, the weird production chaos they had. If this was successful, where could they have taken this as a series? Because they killed off Rebecca Ferguson's character. And just like when they're, when they're translating the books here in America,

Starting point is 01:18:58 they started in the middle of the series. So they started right when he actually did work in Oslo, but then he started... This movie would be the equivalent of jumping into not Avengers Infinity War, but Avengers Endgame. You're like, you're like, start off there. If you start off an endgame, you're totally caught up. You start off there. If you start off an end game, you're totally caught up. Because it is, it's like, these are only more with three books after, but these books have been out there from 97.

Starting point is 01:19:31 I guess it's just every book is a murder, but. Is it, I'm not knowing this series. Is each book a case? Is it a procedural? Is it like, Wallender or something? Oh, okay, here I go. Does someone know? Do you know?

Starting point is 01:19:45 Joe Nesbo fan? Oh, here we go. Paul, this person's a Nesbo fan. She's from the island of Nesbo. I have to give a fake name because I worked on this movie. Oh Oh What's the song what's the song okay Stella What? B-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b- What do you know about this movie? Couple backstory facts about the script originally. Why he's so distraught and like sleeping in a playground is that they were building this backstory that he had like accidentally like shot a kid on like a previous case. Do you know how many?

Starting point is 01:20:57 So, regional Vell Johnson die hard backstory. And every, and a sketch at UCB once every six months One of the issues they had early on See shot a kid and then like I got a sleep near kids Yeah, what the gun this man shot a kid, but what's it? What's a good thing for him to do? Go look at school children all day. I'll be honest, the casualness with which he almost shoots the gas, spray man, doesn't surprise me

Starting point is 01:21:35 that he almost shot a kid. Well, we don't know what a kid had done to him. So was the kid self-defense? Was the kid a serial killer in Norway? All right, all right, so all right, so that's that's the backstory. They never really got to Okay, so originally the Mom character of the murder Was having an affair with a policeman who had a completely other family and he refused to kind of like leave his family

Starting point is 01:22:03 For her and so decides she like goes crazy and kills herself has the same kind of Catatonic through the eyes and then there's a scene Towards the end of the movie where you see the little you now realize that little boys the murderer and he's just standing through the window Beginning of the long window period Looking at the cop with his other family at Christmas, having the life he never got to have. Oh, that's much better. But, but, okay. We then had story issues for the reasons why he started targeting single mothers.

Starting point is 01:22:41 Because in theory, you think you would then be targeting cops. I still got a ton of work. I still got a ton of work. What did the book, target cops, and then they were like, no women deserve to die. Can you speak to the bear trap? Yes. Yes, yes. Fairtrap was always in the script. It was this horrific accident. It's just like a happenstance.

Starting point is 01:23:12 She's like in the wilderness. What? This just like- This movie had a random bear trap. Thanks a lot, Norway. There was never a twin from what I remember. I knew it. It's a reshoot.

Starting point is 01:23:29 Yeah. Why? Why? Why have that? Why any of that? Why have that in there? Honestly. I left to go work.

Starting point is 01:23:39 I don't know. Tell us. So you may have left at a certain point where you can't answer any more questions. But can I ask you another question? Did the house explode in one version? Tell us. So you may have left at a certain point where you can't answer any more questions, but can I ask you another question. Did the house explode in one version? Okay, so originally he thinks his family, he thinks Charlotte Gainesburg and it's supposed to be his son, like a strange, like they're a strange, and their relationship had fallen

Starting point is 01:23:58 apart because he became an alcoholic after shooting this kid. God. And so I think, if I remember this correctly, he thinks his son or his son and wife are burning alive in this house, and then it's then revealed, which didn't make any sense that they're really on the ice. And he has to choose between saving his family or getting the murderer. Like not a hard choice.

Starting point is 01:24:26 Obviously, you're the only one who's the murderer. You're like, what kind of hell did I create marrying this woman and having this child? Yes, let me solve a case and be a man. Yeah. Then, can I add my final question to you is, was the end always the guy just the ice broke under him and fell in?

Starting point is 01:24:49 Yes. By the way, is such an unsatisfying way to see someone die to full fucking titanic jack style fall into the abyss? Because it's also illustrative of the fact that Michael fast bender did nothing Okay, too succeed It's a happy accident And then he's lucky just lucky. He's like your father. You should have been retman at your father

Starting point is 01:25:18 And he's like, oh, you're gonna get it. Oh What I Should die on vendor should die. On everybody should die. He fast-manor should have looked to camera after that guy died and just looked at us in between like just lucky, I guess. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:25:34 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, and that's a line at the end of every movie. Yeah. Because every movie, he does a terrible job. Multiple people get killed on his watch.

Starting point is 01:25:48 And he's like, oopsie, magoopsy. That's his, I guess I did it again. Me and my giant dick didn't solve the case. We didn't solve the case, but the murder. But I got to, but he got dry hunting. Always getting dry hunting. But, all right, so what are you yet? Oh!

Starting point is 01:26:07 One last, the Rebecca Ferguson. So originally it was supposed to be Brad Pitt and Jennifer Lawrence. Oh! Oh! And I was ignored, weegin actors. Weegin actors. And I believe the reason why the Rebecca,

Starting point is 01:26:24 would eventually became the Rebecca Ferguson character was murdered was to allow Jennifer Lawrence and out in the franchise. She didn't want to do another franchise. Now then my only final question is. And they didn't change it when they knew it wasn't gonna be Jennifer Lawrence. They're like, sorry actress who sometimes gets work.

Starting point is 01:26:42 But by the way, it's like put out the finger and just keep her alive. Like it may hurt, like make them both misfingers. Oh, they're these twins, yeah. Um, did they get like touch stumps? Yeah. It did, um... Hey, good job.

Starting point is 01:27:02 Did Val Kilmer's part, was it, was it meteor in the script, or was that kind of, was he the first choice? Because it sounds like he was very ill. It's just so crazy that he did it. I don't know who originally they intended for that, but there was this whole long, like, kind of metaphor building to the end where they would have conversations, it's like, detective Harry Hole and like, when it

Starting point is 01:27:28 would be like, please don't say that, like, it's fucking, uh. Can we just agree to never say detective Harry Hole again? Don't give him any legitimacy. And was there no conversation about that? It was not in the script and it wasn't until it was too late. any legitimacy. And was there no conversation about that? It was not in the script, and it wasn't until it was too late. So, wasn't it in the script? It was just like, it was in the book? It just like was a decision that was like,

Starting point is 01:27:54 I think, made on the fly at the end. But, so there was like, I remember there being scenes where they would be ice fishing. And there was all these like deep conversations in like ice fishing huts between the two. And like, so the hole in the ice and the hole at the end was also like, I kinda like that actually. Oh, like he knew where the hole in the ice was

Starting point is 01:28:17 because he had like- Had a hairy hole. He had a hairy hole. That's his thing. He knows where all the holes are. He knows holes all the holes. Plot hole. Then if that's the thing, put child above in this and let's call it a day.

Starting point is 01:28:31 I did right. Yes. Thank you so much. Well, holy shit. That was like Christmas. Wow. I've never been so angry. Thank you. Thank you so much. Wow. Wow. And by the way, every answer more fulfilling than the last. It's really. Yeah. This is great. Well,

Starting point is 01:29:01 obviously, we know a lot about this movie. We have opinions about but now it's time for second opinions Second opinions they are always to be found with shitty taste and the internet and five stars to throw around Second opinions for the snowman flick they say he was made of snow But the viewers know that this movie is not okay they say he was made of snow but the viewers know that this movie is not okay. There must have been some magic in that movie listing they found for when they watched this travesty they began to come unbound. Second opinions they are always to be found with shitty taste and the internet and five stars to throw around.

Starting point is 01:29:43 and the internet and five stars to throw around. Woo! Woo! Good up, that was amazing. Amazing! Great work. It's no bit appropriate. Great work. Woo!

Starting point is 01:29:52 It is now time for a second opinion. One is the number of opinions that you usually have, but two opinions might be had when we're looking at movies that are supposedly bad. No stars for fast-binder snowman will just never do, because yes, it's a five-star experience like Luke who's talking to. Yes, one's the number of opinions that we usually have, but a second opinion must be had if we're talking about being X-classic red.

Starting point is 01:30:29 I'm not the same since I'm selling and run away, so I just spend my time writing reviews online that'll end up on how did this get made. It's time for a second opinion time for a second opinion time for a second opinion time for a second opinion Amazon review. Great work. That was amazing. These are five star reviews called from Amazon, the total of 395 reviews for the film,

Starting point is 01:31:06 20% are five stars. And... Same with the amount of movie that they needed to do. That's right. And I would say that all of the positive reviews feel like they are from the actual snowman killer. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:31:23 And I will start with this one from Linda Margolette. She writes, Norway and Winter, through steely blue filtered light, the quietness, the indifferent planet, all so well choreographed around the pulse of bloodless murders. I was enthralled. Five stars. I'm telling you, Mary Oliver may have left us, but Blinta, whoever that is, Linda Managult, is that like a Norwegian person?

Starting point is 01:31:56 Yeah. I mean, it feels like, I mean, that was better writing than the letters of Snowman. I hope that woman took four or five days thinking like, what can I write? I think came out with that. This one is from David May. And...

Starting point is 01:32:12 Teresa Mays, husband? Yes. This one is... My wife's so consumed with Brexit. I'm just here watching movies. And boy, did I find a good one. Fast bender, you did it again. I thought you blew it with a sassin' screen,

Starting point is 01:32:32 but you're back in action. So, um, David May simply writes this, most excellent book, five stars. And it's not from the book one, it is from the movie. So he went on the prime video, so he was not confused. This one, all right, I'll just read this, okay, this is great. This is from RH, and it is written like this. This is a movie you should watch two to three times to get, in quotes, the nuance. Hard pass.

Starting point is 01:33:18 Yeah. RH is a moron. It makes you pay attention and has a slow build and such. I liked it much compared to most of today's black movies that need no attention. This was great. Okay. Sure. Two to three times is probably not the, like, yeah, that's not the goal.

Starting point is 01:33:44 It's like, oh, it was a great murder mystery. Oh, so the third time I really got it. Totally. Also just like, trust yourself. If you didn't get a movie, maybe it's the movie's false. Well, the thing about movies like this is the enjoyment as the audience of trying to piece the mystery together beforehand

Starting point is 01:34:02 or trying to piece the mystery, trying to feel like you have the pieces from which the story can be understood if you can just piece them together. And this movie doesn't do that at all, and that's deeply frustrating, you know? So even if you watched it two to three times, I don't think you'd have any more enjoyment or clarity,

Starting point is 01:34:21 you would just know the arbitrary ending that the movie is like, oh, guess what? This guy did it. Big whoop. If you put a knife necklace around my neck, I would not watch this movie more than once. Yeah. It sucks. Or whatever it is.

Starting point is 01:34:36 It sucks, I'll let. Oh, that. If you put an electronic knife necklace, which I am sure is what it's called around my neck, I would not watch this more than once. I'm EKN. Yeah. And the doctor's call it. Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 01:34:55 This is written by L White. Oh, can I ask a question? Yes, sorry. Why was the woman who built the VCR recording devices, obviously American? obviously American. Obviously American. She was the only American tech, futuristic American tech. She was like a sub-surface.

Starting point is 01:35:12 Here's the deal. She's like, this is what, I was like, I don't understand everybody's American or British in this movie. And she's like, everybody, she's also supposed to be Norwegian. Sorry, go ahead. All right, this is written by L. White.

Starting point is 01:35:28 The author of Charlotteswick. Yes. E.B. All right. This is, it's called betrayal and betrayed. Get ready. Didn't care for the killings, but I thought back to Jesus' day, where King Herod killed under one-year-old baby boys,

Starting point is 01:35:49 and how Jesus was... Pass over! And how Jesus was betrayed by Judas. Samson and Delilah, they were betrayed to... The snowman betrayed a lot of people. And... And killing them silently, one man figured it out, and who he was, and the snowman tried to kill him. But he drowned when he stepped in the fin ice and fell in.

Starting point is 01:36:18 Back to the memory of killing an innocent man that went to the cross, Jesus. Five stars. That person. I want it all on a show. That person put on a log ahead and went out and harassed Native American yesterday. That person, that person.

Starting point is 01:36:36 Watch that movie with his kids. Tuck them in and it was like, so listen, what we can learn from that. Here's the thing. That person might be the only person who understands this whole thing. Oh, the only dynamic. That is as far as I'm concerned,

Starting point is 01:36:53 potentially a valid reading. That is just as much as anything else. That's how I can founding this boogie is that that adds up. I'm a short saying that, what's it about? It's about Passover. It's about Samson and Delilah.

Starting point is 01:37:08 It's about Jesus. It's about the Passion. It might be. It's Old Testament, New Testament. What's up to you? Get! It might be, I'm on board for that as like, if maybe it's a Christian allegory.

Starting point is 01:37:20 I don't know, Nesbo can tell us. I don't Nesbo. Do it. After me. It's all my good jokes come out. Yeah. By the way, we haven't read any of these letters. Oh, yeah. Well, by the way, oh, here's a couple of facts.

Starting point is 01:37:43 They're so dumb. Yes. Well, I mean,, oh, here's a good effect. They're so dumb. Yes. Well, I mean, yeah, it's this Mr. Police. You could really freeze to death that way. While you were lying there, I was watching mummy. By the time you read this, I will have her, I will have built her a picture. By the way, I believe that a snowman wrote that. Ha!

Starting point is 01:38:05 Ha! This is a little bit of, for just maybe people who saw the earlier show and this show. But very strange that both of these movies tonight, Harry and Meghan and this one, have written versions of the word mummy in them. That is, and that the lead characters would name Tammy.

Starting point is 01:38:21 Yes! What did that say? That's, by the way, that's the connection. That's how deep these shows roll. That's right. Yes. Couple things. Harry is Harry.

Starting point is 01:38:35 Oh. Oh. So mega-bottle is the snowman killer. Did you laugh so hard when they revealed that in a minute? No. I never laughed hard. When they revealed his medicine label, and it just said a hairy hole, and I was just like, on the fucking floor.

Starting point is 01:38:52 Oh, it worked, it worked every single time. Every time you saw a hairy hole, I mean, here it is, right here, here's the problem. Ah! Ah! It's not a hole, call the hairy, it's hairy hole. How about we? Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha. It's not who will call the Harry, it's Harry home. How about when?

Starting point is 01:39:07 I truly feel, yeah. But that's how it works in Norway. How about when the police library is dead silent? Harry holds phone rings. Rebecca Ferguson, everybody looks around like, I don't know. Rebecca Ferguson answers it and they're like, Harry Holland, she's like, well this is his phone and they're like,

Starting point is 01:39:28 oh, well, is he there? No, but I can take a message. Okay, let me give you confidential police information. Case numbers. A person who picked up the phone that was ringing. So this isn't related to case number, whatever. Here's the, here, let me give you the address where this phone is being at.

Starting point is 01:39:46 What? That can't be right. Doorway. They got back to their ping pong games, the police department. That's right. Bigger things. This movie came out in 2017, October 20th.

Starting point is 01:39:58 It got an 8% in Rotten Tomatoes. The budget was 35 million. The opening weekend was three. It made in the United States 35 million. The opening weekend was three. It made in the United States $6 million. But worldwide gross, 43 million. Norway went again and again and again. The entire population showed up. That's still a lot.

Starting point is 01:40:20 It's still a lot. It's still a lot. That's their PNN. I saw the 35 million. I mean, like, it's the movie. Oh, yeah, that's the movie, yeah. Oh, and it's got movie stars in lot. That's their PNN, that's the other part. I saw the 35 million. I mean, like, I, it's the movie. Yeah. Oh, and it's got movie stars in it. It's beautifully shot.

Starting point is 01:40:29 It's got big. It's big. It feels like a big movie. Just, there's nothing. There's no man heads on people. There's people head on snowmen. Just like, just the number of times they had to build a dummy that looked like half of a famous

Starting point is 01:40:44 actor's head. I love a centaur story. I really liked it. It came in 140 out of all the movies made in 2017. It was beaten by films that we've done in this podcast, Fade of the Furious, Return of Xander Cage, Valerian in the city of 1000. I love Valerian.

Starting point is 01:41:01 Oh, it's one of the most visually interesting movies. Yeah. Geostorm and the disaster artist. Those are all the ones that it beat. And here's the taglines, which are great. Soon, this first snow will come, and then he will kill again. But to your point, he only comes back to the snows. Grammatically you're saying that the snow comes and kills. Soon the first snow will come and then he will kill again.

Starting point is 01:41:34 It is only interesting that the serial killer kills every snow if you live in a rubah. Yes. To live in Norway and be like, he kills every time it's snow. It's like, well, then we can't sleep. And by the way, it didn't feel, it didn't feel to me like, because it was snowy all the time that,

Starting point is 01:41:52 like, that was any different. It was like, oh, it's snowing, I'm nervous. Like, oh, it just seems like that's snowy. Yeah, all right, yeah, that's what we do. Then the second tagline was, soon, the first snow will fall, and then the hunt for killer begins. Jesus. That's a confusing one.

Starting point is 01:42:08 Cheers, that's like, oh, well, didn't you just tell me the other way? So you're hunting before the tagline? Don't put the movie out. And the final tagline is, Mr. Police, you could have saved her. Right. I gave you all the clues. And that's why I know when an America saw it, because everyone saw that and was like, what the fuck is this shenanigan?

Starting point is 01:42:31 Literally a better tagline for that movie just would have been like, you ready? Like anything, anything would have been better. How about this? Snowman, it's a movie? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or what's happening? How about like, just a snowman that image and go like,

Starting point is 01:42:50 I killed her. Yeah. That would have been like, whoa, what's that? Yeah. Like, if you wanted to make it scary or I did it, just I did it totally. Totally. Just the man I did.

Starting point is 01:42:58 What about Detective Harry Hole, Bones, another one? Yeah. Dry hump. The movie. Yup. How about like Norway, Norway, where serial killers win? In Norway, ineffective police, killers foiled by ice. Norway, ice, Norway. Ice. Ha ha. Ice.

Starting point is 01:43:26 One. Police. Zero. Oh. Killer. Killer. Seven. What is this?

Starting point is 01:43:36 This is a terrible movie. So in talking about this movie, it's one of those rare movies that I feel like we could still continue to talk about. But I'm going to this last Jason would you recommend this movie? POP! No! POP! I don't know how to more emphatically say no. People shouldn't watch this movie. It's not good. And it's two hours long. It is unsatisfying, unsuccessful, infuriating, and I wrote so many times, what is this? What's going on?

Starting point is 01:44:14 Where's Val Kilmer? Why? Who is doing Val Kilmer's voice? What's going on? Nothing made sense. It's awful. I really, I implore you. Don't watch this movie. Aaron?

Starting point is 01:44:29 If someone has an electric knife necklace, around your neck, let them murder you before you watch this. Brian, it really made me hate art. Like, it really made me think, it really made me hate art. Like it really made me think. It really made me think like, I'm no longer interested in Kislausky and going to see Cold War at the ArcLite.

Starting point is 01:44:52 I'm done. I've had it. It was so boring and it was so stupid and it was beautiful, but it really just made me think like, you know what? You know what? I'm so proud that Scandinavia has all of their social issues

Starting point is 01:45:07 figured the fuck out, keep it fair. I don't want anything to do with your Nordic bullshit. I... I'm not gonna fall in line with this peer pressure. Wow. I am gonna say, it's, to me, this is the most fascinating type of movie. When it's $35 million, produced by Martin Scorsese, edited by the editor of Raging Bull, with Michael Fassbender,

Starting point is 01:45:36 all these amazing people. Uh, Rebecca Ferguson is awesome. And then you get this. And that to me, sometimes it's like, this, that movie Green Lantern, it's like, let's sit down, let's look at this and go, no one raised their hand at the right point. You're right in that sense. Yeah, I'm crazy.

Starting point is 01:45:56 Like this is on par with like a movie that your friend is like, I made this movie, you should come watch it. And you're like, I didn't know you made movies. I thought you were a pair of refrigerators. But it's always my dream to make a movie. You're right, everyone involved in this movie is a master at what they do. And it's like, and I think what I think

Starting point is 01:46:18 is amazing about it is, even when you're really good, you can take a hot juice and fucking shit. All right. It's like, like, yes, don't feel so bad. These guys, they fucked it up. Martin's first stage is like, he's a fucking film expert. And he fucked up.

Starting point is 01:46:38 He could even figure out how to make a fucking thing make sense from A to B to C. I would love to see the documentary about how this went off the rails more than the movie itself. Absolutely. If that makes sense. I would have just paid a watch Martin Scorsese giving notes on the first pass. I don't know what would be a better movie is a two-hour film interview where somebody just says to Michael Fassbender, what happened?

Starting point is 01:47:13 And he doesn't stop talking for two hours. But don't you also feel like this is a movie where we're rare, like we're a Michael Fassbender like, no, it's my best work. Oh, for sure, kids, Michael Fassbender, if you were me, like, what are your top films that you've made? You'd be like, oh, God, it's hard to choose Prometheus, Macbeth, Assassin's Creed, this, the list goes on and on, and it's this list of the worst movies.

Starting point is 01:47:35 I'm like, dangerously close to thinking he's a terrible actor. I know. But by the way, let's look at the lead. Because of these choices, like the worst choices. Well, like, let's look at this worse choices. Well, like, let's look at this. Michael Fastbender clearly is on track to be like the biggest fran-

Starting point is 01:47:52 He's like, he's Sam Jacksoning it. Like, every movie that he's doing, like, Alien was like, okay, that's gonna be fucking- You're right, franchise. This can be franchise. Franchise. Franchise. Like, it's not something to be greedy.

Starting point is 01:48:04 Franchise. He's only picking franchise movies like Super Mario. I mean, but it's not kind of crazy. Yeah, Michael Fassbender is gonna be like, but no put him in a fashion the furious and then they'll stop making them. Oh, just the way I know you're saying that as a joke, but I am begging the people to put Michael Fasbender in the Fast and Furious. Yeah, because then they can say Fast Spender in the Furious.

Starting point is 01:48:32 I love it. I want to be in the art department on this movie, mainlining masculine printing out this label over and over again. Harry Hull on my tiny picture. Absolutely, unacceptable that it was just. I like whatever drugs. Like you're a hunter as Tom. I know.

Starting point is 01:48:57 How are you going to get through this? I, I, I development. It is inexcusable. Uh, that no one knew the name of the lead character. Until it was too late. I'm gonna say this to us. You did this to us. I know you helped us and told us stuff, but also you did this to us.

Starting point is 01:49:18 Here's a good reason to watch this movie. So I was watching this at home with my husband and dog bragging for you. And I said, guess what this detective's name is? And then he guessed Harry. And then I was like, but guess the last 40 minutes later, he was having the time of his life. What do you guys got going on? Tell us what you guys are going on. Well, we do the podcast.

Starting point is 01:49:42 We do the ring shade every week. I'm on the season of, you don't watch it. But I'm on the season of 9-1-1 on Fox. If we do the podcast. We do the ring shade every week. I'm on the season of you don't watch it But I'm on the season of 911 on Fox if you do watch it That are you an operator? I play I am the 911 call center boss So I just it's so crazy that I'm on a draw all I do is I go like She's where? We'll be right there, we're sending someone now. That's like, that was really good.

Starting point is 01:50:08 No, that's all I had. I love that. Okay, just stand on the phone. And 9-1-1 call center is part of a police department. So does it look like a classy library? It does. And while tables, ping-pong, clothes, you know, the work. You're phone rings, do you guys all freak out?

Starting point is 01:50:24 Yeah, the phone rings and I'm like, God damn it! Shut that off! I love that you're a never-ending boy. You can't answer that! That's exciting. Yeah, it's fun too. Who do you get to interact with?

Starting point is 01:50:37 It's mostly me and Jennifer Lefueh who work in the call center. So I name her Bob. I love this. This is great. She's very cool. Does she whisper to ghosts? She does not. So I have a lot of things to do. I have a lot of things to do. I have a lot of things to do. I have a lot of things to do. I have a lot of things to do. I have a lot of things to do.

Starting point is 01:50:46 I have a lot of things to do. I have a lot of things to do. I have a lot of things to do. I have a lot of things to do. I have a lot of things to do. I have a lot of things to do. I have a lot of things to do. I have a lot of things to do.

Starting point is 01:50:54 I have a lot of things to do. I have a lot of things to do. I have a lot of things to do. I have a lot of things to do. I have a lot of things to do. I have a lot of things to do. I have a lot of things to do. I have a lot of things to do.

Starting point is 01:51:02 I have a lot of things to do. I have a lot of things to do. I have a lot of things to do. I have a lot of things to do. I have a lot of things to do. I have a lot of things to do. I have a lot of things to do. storylines. Okay. So our storyline is in the call center, but like Angela Bassett's the chief of police. Okay. Peter Krauss is like a fireman. And so it follows all these stories, which is great for an actor, because you only shoot your story. Yeah. And then you know, is Connie Britton still in it? She is not. Okay. Paul's not interested. No, I don't know anything. I put it on for season. Paul's like, no, no, there's no story here.

Starting point is 01:51:27 I'll watch 30 John. There's no story there. There's no story there. And she just did it for a year, yeah. Yeah. And about like, what if I was like, she's not like, yes, falling out and she is, no. She's not a dear, yeah.

Starting point is 01:51:40 What if we tuned in and you addressed like Connie Britton in the show? She's not weird. What if we tuned in and you were dressed like Connie Britton in the show? She's not. Yeah. No, she was solely on it for the first year or whatever. Yeah, yeah. Nothing weird there. But Bonnie Kitten is.

Starting point is 01:51:55 Yeah. She's got wavy black hair. She's the evil genius. Is there Chris Gaines? That's right. Like, is there Garth Brooks? That's right. That's the whole genius. Is there Chris Gaines? That's right. Is there Garth Brooks? That's right. That's the whole show is about a 911 operator

Starting point is 01:52:09 who gets into Skys' for being on the phone. Oh, God. She comes in and goes all in. She goes all in. She's an eye-founder's actress. She's like, 911, what's your one margin, Shane? Wow. Just like Chris Gaines.

Starting point is 01:52:23 Yes. Classic, she does the barcress games. Classic Chris Gaines, yes. Classic, classic, classic, classic, classic, classic, really the shows about Garth Brooks at the end of the day. Aren't they all... Every show is. Isn't every show now about Garth Brooks? Every, I was watching Marvelous Mrs. Mazewell and I thought if this isn't the album shameless by Garth Brooks, I don't know what it is.

Starting point is 01:52:43 Just like, especially those cat skills episodes. Oh my god. I'll tell you all that hats. Thanks again Amy Sherman Paladino for drowning us in hats. She multiple Garth loves a hat too. They really, they have more in common than you think. Are they the same person? Garth Brooks wrote every episode of Gilmore Girls. This is the name of Gilmore Girls. Yeah. Oh, Aaron, what are you going on? I wrote a book called Feminasty and it's still out thanks. Yeah, complicated woman guy, woman's guy just surviving the patriarchy without drinking yourself to death. You can get it

Starting point is 01:53:17 on hard backs, not out and soft back yet. So it's on Amazon right now. So back Amazon right now. Go to Amazon right now and look up Aaron Gibson. You would just Amazon right now. If I wanted to go to Amazon right now and look up Aaron Gibson, you would just go right to my book. Boom. By the way, you all missed out because my aunt wrote a really skating review of. She did.

Starting point is 01:53:34 What? Yes, I don't know if we can put this in podcast, but uh, DD, no, my aunt Denise. And guess what, dumb bitch, her user. And Denise, could she be any other way? I was like, who was the sort of you and the user name said, BEEP!

Starting point is 01:53:50 I was like, your name is your user name? Oh. She was like, here's what she was mad about because I call myself an Irish Catholic street right in it. And she was like, we're not Irish, we're Welsh! And I was like, okay, that was 17 paragraphs. And the best part about it was at the end,

Starting point is 01:54:05 someone had written, some stranger wrote, calm down, dude. So, that's, oh my, I only want to start review, check it out. Well, off with him. I'm from your aunt. Oh. I'm so proud of that.

Starting point is 01:54:18 That's amazing. And sometimes we give away codes, you know, you do auto-ball and stuff. And you did your own book reading, right? Yeah, it's all me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can get it on the auto-bomb. So get it on an auto-bomb book and you can hear you reading the book to me as I sit alone in bed at night. Yeah. Screaming at you.

Starting point is 01:54:34 Cool. Jason, what? What do you got? At the long-dum-road it is available on all streaming platforms. Please rent and or buy it. I would love it if you did. I don't know when this is coming out, but watch the good place or watch, watch, watch nail, did or any of that fun stuff.

Starting point is 01:54:58 Yeah, those are all great shows that I eventually pop up on sometimes. I will say definitely check out our friends show Andrew Savage. It does a show called I'm Sorry on True TV. I'm on that and Jason you're on that a little bit and Junes on that. Super great. Grace and Frankie, new seasons out. And Black Monday right now is on Showtime, airing Sunday's at 10 o'clock. Woo! So definitely check those out.

Starting point is 01:55:27 Those are my plugs. Thank you all for coming. A big thank you to April Howie for coming through all that footage, finding all that challenge stuff. Amazing, amazing. Nick Kylie with the research. July up in the booth, Cody will help produce the show. Kelly Alto, everybody who's come out here tonight

Starting point is 01:55:46 Brian and Aaron and their amazing podcast throwing shade definitely listen to that and thank you to all for all of you It's a big long show, so thank you tonight You

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