How Did This Get Made? - Matinee Monday: The Spirit of Christmas

Episode Date: December 12, 2022

HDTGM All-star Jessica St. Clair joins Paul, Jason, and June (via Jury Duty) to discuss the 2015 Hallmark classic The Spirit of Christmas. They break down this tale of a workaholic lawyer sent to appraise a small town inn, only to find out the inn's haunted by a very sexy ghost. Plus, Paul shares his real-life paranormal encounter. (Originally released 12/22/2019) For more Matinee Monday content, visit Paul's YouTube page: https://www.youtube.com/c/PaulScheer Buy Drop Dead Fred LIVE on Vinyl: https://hdtgm.bandcamp.com/ Go to www.hdtgm.com for tour dates, merch, and more.Follow Paul on Letterboxd: https://letterboxd.com/paulscheer/HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: https://discord.gg/paulscheerCheck out Paul and Rob Huebel live on Twitch (https://www.twitch.tv/friendzone) every Thursday 8-10pm ESTSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael here: listen.earwolf.com/deepdiveSubscribe to Unspooled with Paul Scheer and Amy Nicholson here: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledCheck out The Jane Club over at www.janeclub.comCheck out new HDTGM merch over at https://www.teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmWhere to find Jason, June & Paul:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on Twitter

He's not a ghost, and not quite a man. Sounds like the perfect holiday, boyfriend. We saw the spirit of Christmas, so you know what that means. Now it's time for how to discriminate. We're gonna have a good time celebrating failure, not just be a hater. Could you know you wonder how to discriminate? Let's all win the mediocrity of subpar art. Perhaps we'll find the answer to the question, how did this get made?

Hello, people of Earth, and welcome to How Did This Get Made? I am Paul Shear, and this is a very special holiday edition of How Did This Get Made. We saw the Hallmark classic, The Spirit of Christmas, which is about a workaholic lawyer who is sent to a prison in a very small town, only to find it's haunted by a very sexy ghost, or is he, and is this person maybe the love of her life? Yeah, this movie is weird, and here to break it down is my co-host, Mr. Jason Manzuchus. How are you, Jason? I'm good. Ho, ho, ho. Merry Christmas, Paul.

We are so excited to get the team back together for a holiday special, because we do have a very special guest, but we also have somebody, she's my other co-host, but she's currently serving jury duty right now. June, are you there? Hi. Oh, wait. What? Please tell me.

All right, so. No. He's just going to. Whisper it. Okay, let's. Okay, go ahead. Oh my god, this is the softest you will ever be. I'm honestly, I'm staring at a sign that says the use of cell phones jury.

Jury duty is primitive. So, this bears a little bit of explanation. June is currently serving jury duty. Yes. And is unable to be with us, but is calling in on the whisper phone. Yes. She is going to be listening in and texting. Like a ghost.

Yes. Listening in like a. Legitimately like a ghost. This pod is haunted. And she will be texting in her thoughts based on what we're saying. So, I'm going to be watching June's texts here as she is joining us from a jury room in downtown Los Angeles doing her civic duty during this holiday season. But we have a very special guest in studio.

You know what? No trash can fires, but some fires are in this movie. Yes. Please welcome me. How did this get made also? How did this get made favorite Jessica St. Claire? How are you?

Thank you so much. And you know, if June had to be a ghost, I feel like I am a good living representation and vice versa. Does that make sense? You would like to give your body to June to possess. That's right. That's right. Is this your way of just trying to sleep with Paul?

Yes. And if somebody is listening who wants to write that up as a screenplay. Oh, no. Let's do it. Let's do it. Oh, I was possessed by June to. Ew. I want to fuck June if anybody.

Thank you. So do I. June just wrote so true. And so this movie. This is like, that's like a secret or the secret. What was the Dukovny movie? Oh, yeah, right. Where Lily Taylor dies and is in the body of her daughter and as Lily Taylor, his wife,

she keeps trying to do in the daughter's body sleep with him. No, that would not be made now. By the way. You think? It was only made like three years ago. It was very recent. Dark. We need to get you and June to watch that movie.

Thank you. This movie has been one that people are very excited that we were going to watch. Why? Why would they be excited? Oh, were you? Because I like some of these movies and I thought, finally, I'm going to be paid back for all the shit you've made me watch that scares me. And then this piece of crap, which did scare me for the first.

What are you talking about? It scared you. I don't like it when the camera pans like it's a man watching you and also very scared to be going to sleep and don't make me bring up the story of when we were house sitting, when we were just 25 and you waited till I went to sleep after I watched a lifetime movie called May I Take Your Order? Do you remember this? Of course I don't.

May I Take Your Order? I don't remember any of this. And also you watched something called May I Take Your Order? Okay. A lifetime movie? Quick digression. You're telling me a lifetime movie got you scared. Quick digression.

Oh, God. We were on a plane, Jason and I. And by the way, that means very long digression. We were on a plane, Jason and I, a JetBlue plane to California when we were just very young. I was young. You were old. And I watched, was watching a lifetime movie called May I Take Your Order in which somebody

was abducting people who were working in like at a burger restaurant. By the way, Junas just chimed in to say, lifetime movies are scary, Jason. Yes, they are. They play to exactly what we're afraid of. And anyway, Jason said, please do not watch this movie. You can't handle it. And I said, don't tell me what I can or can't do. I'm watching this movie.

So then we go to the place, the creepy place that we were house sitting because we had no money. And you waited until I went to sleep because the guy in the movie would tie women up and then, and then whisper to them, may I take your order? And so you waited till I fell asleep like a psycho crept into my room and whispered, may I take your order into my ear and scare the shit out of me. Yeah. Did you just bleep yourself?

Yes. Kids are listening. Yeah, of course. Kids do tune in for the big holiday episode. They think it's a Hallmark family friendly podcast. Kids love it. And then suddenly we're just talking about like, you know, like absolute filth. That's right.

You're welcome, by the way. Junas very upset she has written all caps. Jason. That's right. I'll be playing the part of June and me. Great. I also wanted to point out that that lifetime does an entire genre of women killing men on lifetime.

It's fascinating, but also lots of men killing women too. That's right. So I don't like it anytime a camera is panning like a man is watching a woman sleep. That's like my worst nightmare. Well, there was a lot of that. Well, it's interesting that you bring this up and you are kind of right because this was originally a lifetime movie that Hallmark bought. Makes perfect sense.

Yeah. So it's a little bit of a mix of both. Hallmark is so Jonesing to like have 25 full days of Christmas movie. And they're like, well, buy this one. Well, they're just acquiring. And this was, I will say this, this, this was boring. Like I found this, even the, there's like these wild supernatural elements to it. She goes to the inn and both the ghost story and the romantic story are treated with absolute

blasé attitude by every person involved. Well, it's, it's an insane movie because I don't even think I understand it. Every round this movie multiple times. Like, all right, so wait, what is going on? I mean, it's a ghost story without the ghost. There's like three ghosts. Yeah, there's three. There's three.

By the end of the movie, there's three. Well, technically two ghosts, one corporeal man person. Like suddenly at the end, everyone can see the other ghost. Everybody can see all the ghosts all the time. Some ghosts can walk through walls. Some ghosts don't. The rules. And even within the body of the movie, they keep having moments and scenes where people

try and explain the rules and they say things like, there's the female lead at one point says to the guy, there's got to be some rules to this. And I was like, yes, let's figure them out. By the way, they give up on even trying to explain it. Cause at one point it feels like the movie goes meta and they're like, the curse is weird. Like this is the scene right here. It's like, I know expert on curses, but this one's weird. He's a ghost except for two weeks.

That's why I didn't even saw the witch. Oh, classic. There are no witches. Oh, right. Cause that would be crazy. Daniel doesn't know the reason behind his situation. And neither does the writer of this film. He came back 95 years ago for 12 days and has done the same each year ever since.

And he can't leave here. He's restricted by the inn's property line. But there's too many rules for this to be random. There has to be purpose behind it. We wish. We wish there was a purpose. I agree. I would believe you if you told me like an 11 year old wrote this script and like, like

that's the, that's the level of logic. But there is literally that seems like the transcript of a note session when the screenwriter has given it to someone else. Like, but doesn't make any sense. Why can't he go on the property line? He's corporeal for two weeks. And then he's this. How many times are you guys going to use the word corporeal?

Because I've literally not heard that word ever in my life. I know it is a word, but I don't want to hear it. By the way, June said, but we can all agree that they had chemistry, right? No. No. No. No. No.

This is a fetish of, is it, I think it's a fetish of girls. It must be to fuck a ghost, right? Is it though? It must be. But let me. Why? Why? Who was the ghost and ghost?

I never thought. It was crazy. Yeah, but they were married. They were married couple. So what? Their love is real. Like they're married. June has written, I've never fucked a ghost.

But do you want to? How do you love to? How do you love to? She's unfortunate, but would love to. Because she likes better dead, drop dead Fred. Guys. He's not a ghost. Ghost could be fucking us all the time.

Ghost could be fucking us all the time. We don't know. They fucked Dan Acrid or they gave him a blow job. Yes, I'm sure. But this ghost is very sweet. I mean, they just kind of kiss. It is all about that one peck. Fine.

That's hot as hell. There is no sexual chemistry. Was this a Canadian movie? Is it possible this movie is Canadian? No, but the actor is the French Canadian. That would be a lot of sex. We went to college with a lot of French Canadians. To me it had the chemistry of like Canada.

Like it was like without chemistry. Like there was no erotic. No disrespect for a Canadian listener. Oh no. Disrespect to our, you know what? Get it together. Wear something sexier. Show us your dongs, Canada.

Do something with that. God damn it. Stop being so fucking polite. Oh, yeah. Let's even get into the premise of it, which is our lead actor, Kate, is, and I'm going to bring up June's point right away here, which is...

Looks just like Deborah Messing. Is that her point? She's a young Deborah Messing-esque. June says, in these movies, every woman who works is considered a workaholic. Yes. Sure. I mean, she didn't seem, first of all,

I don't think that they make you like her right away because they have this weird breakup scene where the guy is breaking up with her for being too business-like. And then she's like, oh yeah, I just feel like I don't, I didn't want to see this movie about these two characters at all. They saw like side characters.

Yeah, it sets her up in this way that she's like married to her job and because of her closed-off nature, because she gives the guy this whole speech about every boyfriend who's broken up with her or she's broken up with, giving her some sort of... Reason why she's broken.

Yeah, some sort of moniker who said something to her that has stuck with her about how she's unavailable romantically or emotionally, how she's too difficult to, you know, whatever, whatever. And that that is what you're supposed to believe is like, she needs to, you know... Heal something in herself. Break through this, I guess,

it's revealed later. It's because of her parents' divorce. Wait a second. That was the most... Because of her parents' divorce? Parents' divorce is the reason that she... Well, that's not crazy that people could be trauma-tomies.

It's not processed at all, though. I mean... Then what happened during the parents' divorce? She goes, Did somebody murder? Collateral damage? Collateral damage. Now listen, Paul had obviously

a very tragic childhood. Yes, and he's figured it out. And me. I worked through it. And he worked through it, and we know that. But I, you're right, she does not learn anything. Zero.

Paul has issues. Paul has issues. Paul does has. I mean, like, listen, we've all got issues. Yeah, past issues. But Paul, if we're talking about who has the most... But Paul managed to figure out

how to have a relationship. How to find his love. How to successfully find love. And juggle work. He didn't need to find a ghost to fuck. I would... And that ghost didn't solve anything for her. That ghost doesn't do anything like...

The ghost abandoned Lily at the end of the movie. That's tough. Like, tough look for my girl Lily, who's waiting around for a hundred years, and he's like, peace, see you later. But by the way, so she's waiting around in the house.

He doesn't have a social security number. How's he gonna live as a real man? Exactly. Why? Imagine his life now. He lives as like an alien in the world now. June goes like, June says,

Lily is not alone. She's with her dead newborn. Oh. Wow. Savage. Oh, my. Who's taking care of that newborn? Who?

Ghost Lily is taking care of ghost Patrick the baby? Like what? And Patrick the man is meanwhile fucking Kate in the real world, just giving her the ghost biz? But why is Lily even haunting the house? Why is Lily there? Why is Lily there?

He's giving him a gift. That final, I don't know, eighth of the movie made no sense. No. You always split movies into eighths. You got it. A lot of people talk about movies and acts. Three acts.

It's a three act structure. You know, people talk about it in eighths now. Yeah. Where's the eighth? Oh. Is that the final? You know that new screenwriting book,

The Eighth Act. What is wrong with you? Guys. It had me at the first eighth. What is it? The second and third eighth, I didn't enjoy it all. Eighth number four,

electric. The fifth eighth was not great. Sixth eighth, terrific. Seventh eighth was actually terrible. The eighth eighth really brought it home. Okay. My point is, at the end,

Lily said, what Patrick says, she's given me a gift, which is to heal his anger. So like, Was his anger that he was killed? Which, by the way, legit.

Where is he the other 350 days of the year? In a nightmare that he never wakes up. Yeah. He's in some sort of limbo state. All right. So he is, but is he conscious or in just darkness?

I would have loved to have seen that. I would love to have seen that. I would love to have gotten a glimpse of whatever other side he exists in. I know because it seems like, And have it be terrifying. And by the way, it isn't a witch that cursed him.

It was just Patrick, but Patrick didn't curse him either. No, Lily trapped him. Lily trapped him there is what I think. With her love? With note, took because he needed to learn the lesson

of like, that what really happened. She didn't want him to cross over, be pissed at her, thinking that. Why? Wouldn't he just find her there? I don't know.

June says that she thinks he's sleeping. Oh God. What? The point of the movie is he never sleeps, June. Oh my God. This is why. Well, he never sleeps because he's sleeping like for 350 plus days a year.

But I agree with Kate. It is weird when he stays in her room watching her sleep. No. That was creeps it. But she like, wanted it. She's horny for it.

But then he like, looks over his shoulder and goes, good night, Kate. He's just going to be jerking it while she's sleeping. Yes. He's like, is that like a fantasy for women that they want to be like,

watched while they sleep by a ghost man that they want to? I don't know. June says, admit it. It was sexy. What? No. No.

No. It was not sexy. No. Nothing was sexy. Although Kate too, for a no nonsense lawyer from Boston, who is told repeatedly that there's a ghost in the house.

Yeah. Over and over and over again, meets the ghost and does not believe it's a ghost. Wait, wait, but here's my thing. Who was the ghost that's been scaring away the cousin who killed him? The cousin Harry.

Okay. The cousin who killed him. All right. The cousin doesn't want the house to sell. Why? No. Cousin Harry. Doesn't want the house to sell?

Cousin is just, is a scary ghost. Okay. He's just a ghost. I believe. He's trapped there. He's trapped in that network. Because he murdered.

Okay. Right. And he doesn't want to cross over because he's never scared a person coming in to price out the house. I believe not. Okay. Right?

No. Because later on he goes, you can come in, but yet he only, Kate later says, he's the one that's been scaring away everybody. Cousin Harry? Yeah.

Okay. But why also, why does the innkeeper, who I'm also fascinated with, Oh, he's the scariest character. Here's that. This motherfucker is, every,

say these movies, oftentimes it's like, they want like a little small town, New England-y type of movie. Maybe they want it to feel like stars hollow, like populated by oddballs and weirdos. And the inn is the local point, or focal point for all the weirdos.

Every person, every town's person in this movie is more boring than the last. Oh my gosh. She, I mean, he is so boring. The innkeeper is flat. His city.

I mean, there's a little bit of his love story. Community theater going on here. Yes. I think they hire local for the smaller parts. In where?

In Canada? Yes. I think some of those people are probably in stage versions of Annaparie and Gables, of which I've seen many. The brother literally looks out as if he's playing to an audience.

Oh yeah. Like a community theater audience. When the brother and Lily in the fifth, eighth of the movie are on the porch, and he's like saying, and he's saying, he's not coming back,

and she was saying, you know, like, I want him to be, he said he'd be here by Christmas Eve. Yeah. He starts to touch her head and face. And he pushes it. So he's repeatedly

screaming. Screaming. I'm screaming. Screaming. You've got to take it down a notch. Okay, fine. Scramming her face. Why is he grabbing her head like that?

Why? He's grabbing her head so much. And then he does it again. Oh, he does it. It's like his, he's like, you know what this guy would do? Grab her head and force it to his shoulder over and over and over again.

That's how you comfort someone. June says that the other jurors are looking at her because of the sound coming out of her phone. It's so loud. June just is weighing in on some of the actors. She said, no, it's terrible. So it's tavern owner.

Daniel is wonderful. No, no. I will say this. That the tavern, or not the tavern owner. I'll get to her. She's a snooze. Snooze.

Why would you ever want to be with her? We are just demolishing people here. It's not them. That is the characters they were written. Exactly. And everything in it is flat. Why does the, why does the innkeeper leave for 12 days

to leave this man all by himself? It seems like that's a death. But then he does it. That's what's crazy. He comes back. Then he comes back and plays like Baccarat with them, with, or chess or whatever with him. Baccarat.

What do you think they are? Like in Monaco? June just threw down the gauntlet. Baccarat. And she said, June just came and defended it. She said, it wasn't the writing.

It is the acting. Oh, boy. I'm sorry. I love that you think they're playing Baccarat. Baccarat. Baccarat. What are you talking about? They're not like,

like, oh, they're like literally in a casino in Monaco. Playing Baccarat. I don't know what that is. You don't. I don't know. Hang on. They're playing old-time games.

Hang on. Describe the game Baccarat and how it's played. How do you guess? Yeah. There's a board. Is it a card game or a dice game? It's a checkered board. Okay.

And you throw dice on it or something. I don't know what. Okay. That's Baccarat. I'm not, I don't care what Baccarat is. My point is, James Bond has always

bring me the checkered board. Bring me my checkered board and dice. It's time for Baccarat. Here's a really. Well, Blofeld. Here's a really fucked up scene though. When the two of them are just hanging and drinking and talking about how,

like the girls they're going to get. And she's like, Kate's going to come back for you and all that. And like, don't worry. Like she wants that ghost dick. And like you're going to, and that's fucking crazy.

Well then everybody's taking the tavern owner out for a spin at that party. But the guy taking her for a spin looks like he's 16 years old. Like he's somebody's nephew. I mean, by the way, there's something going on in this town that is bad because that cop literally interrupts their dance in mid-kiss.

Why was that happening? Why is this cop deciding to cut in at that point? Guys, when's the last time you waltzed with somebody? They were doing the box dance. They were terrible dancers. Terrible. Okay. The most romantic scene when Daniel and Kate are sharing a dance

at the Christmas Eve dance party, which is now happening at the inn, right? Because the tavern is flooded? And yes. And everybody from. The tavern. Everybody from the inbred town that they live in is there. The poor person town.

Dancing with their relatives who they also fuck. And literally Daniel and Kate are having their most romantic moment. They're going in for the kiss and the cop is like, tap, tap, tap. Time for me to cut in. Doopie, doopie, doopie, doopie. Like I don't even think people cut in anymore in modern day.

People also don't waltz. No, everyone is waltzing. Juno wants to know why did the tavern. Oh, Juno fucking pig. I'm sorry about the cop. But again, she goes, why is the tavern flooded? It never rained. Interesting.

Oh yeah, that's true. No, Piper, she's. Oh, Piper. Yeah. But I mean, but by the way, so the, I don't know what's going. I also had an issue like they have to sell this place so quickly, but why not just leave it to the innkeeper? Like give them a night.

Like that's a kind of a dick movement. No, because the trust owns it. Oh, but I mean, what couldn't the trust before they died? But hey guys, we're putting things in our will. Like let's get to the innkeeper. He's been there every. I mean, the old lady who died, who owned it. Who was she?

We never understood who she was. She's the granddaughter. Of Lily? Of Lily. The granddaughter of Lily. We never see her. No, no, I know. She's the one who dies.

Right, right, right. But who? Oh. Oh, and by the way, he goes, I don't know what a Christmas tree is. What? Christmas, like Daniel was like, what is that tree on top of your vehicle? Your auto. Yeah.

Christmas trees, I looked it up, came out in the 16th century. Yeah. It's not like, they're just having a full on Christmas party. He also keeps referring to the innkeeper's cell phone as your special device. But knows how to turn the alarm on and off effortlessly. Guys, I thought this was an ad for ADT. Really? There is a close up of that, of that, beep boop, beep boop, like 16 times.

Like, why did they feature that fucking security thing? So that they're making sure you know that it's off and on and off and on. But like, he seemed, he also didn't seem like he was from the 20s. I guess. Or whatever it's supposed to be. Oh, no. I have a lot of issues about that. His hair.

His hair is crazy. His hair, you know what this reminded me of? What was Colin Farrell Rides a Horse? What was that? Yeah. Wasn't that a ghost movie that we did? We saw with Andy Daly. Yes.

The podcast was like a New York movie. I forget. And also like time travel, lovers, nonsense. Yes. I'm in love with a ghost. Jessica Brown Finley. I remember this. I remember, I don't remember any details besides it being in like old New York and then time

travel. Racing on a horse again. Yeah. And he's on a horse and there's carriages and, but then it's also modern day, I think. But to me, it's like his hair at a certain point later in the movie gets more old timey, but starts out very of the now. Listen, I know one thing and that's the olden days. And I was, and I, the one thing that upsets me is when you have a haircut that's too modern,

when you speak too modern. Now I felt like. Oh, he looked like he was from a barber shop. And he looked like he was in a boy band. And it also looked like they had gone to whatever costume rental and just said like, fuck it, we'll take it. By the way, I feel like it was like costume rental adjacent was sort of like this kind of looks right.

It was like, Hey, I don't want to go to like a costume place to get a fancy costume for this old timey party. Right. But I think I have this brown blazer. You know what it reminds me of? I had an olden days Christmas party I hosted for girls. And there was a wine. This was about probably nine years ago.

Okay. Nice. And I said, please, I did not say come in costume. I just said this is an olden days themed party. Yeah. June arrived dressed like one of the wives from those Mormon communities from a sister wife. She was so upsetting.

She was the only person dressed up, but it looked like she had gone through her closet. This long skirt. This and I'll button it up. Yeah. And that's what the people in this movie look like. Well, yeah, I totally agree. June also says that she remembers being there for that party and that and that Daniel looked like a Brooklyn barista.

Like one of those stovepipers. Yes. We're here. It looks like one of those guys that like does fancy barber shop like a steampunk barber shop. Yes, you know. I'll say something. This guy wastes so much time for the 12 days that he's corporeal there.

Nothing. Yeah. Iron. He fucking irons. Guess what I'm doing if I'm corporeal for only 12 days. Jerking off constantly. Fucking and jerking off constantly. Like top to bottom.

God. Here's the thing. That's the movie to make. It's a go. It's a horny ghost. It's a horny ghost. 12 days a year gets to fuck his brains out. But the first day, his true love shows up.

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Bam. Bam. Well, Kate was a replacement casting because the first actress died in the snow She like went out to get a mini twix and RIP herself And they still fed it to Daniel because he was number one on the call sheet Um, so also this movie does the thing with the trope that I'm obsessed with that pony Oh fuck that side pony and that fit-and-flare dress. What the fuck was that where we were we hiding thighs? I never saw because I was like this choice. She looks I mean that dress

I mean what's going on? Why is she getting that dressed up for this party that looks like maybe it's attended by 10 people? And she's ought to automatically like connected to this town Well, she arrives and on day one the innkeeper and the ghost are like, well, I guess we got to tell her Yeah, about the whole ghost story Which by the way, she should not be trusted and then B they tell her and she is legit Unphased nobody there are there are so many people in this movie that talk to a ghost and are Legit non-plus. This is why I'm so glad. I've never seen an alien because oh I

Then I would lose my fucking mind. You know what I'm saying. No, you can't bounce back from seeing a ghost You can't you that means you're separate from the rest of the real question real real talk. Do you believe in ghosts? No, yes. No, June wants me to reveal that I've seen a ghost What are you talking about all? All right, I Did see a ghost where what all right now? Here's the crazy thing about the story You got to listen to the first part and then the second part is important so I

Was camping out in the hallway of my of my house when I was a kid This is so sad so I was camping by yourself by myself Like just not sleeping free soloing. Yeah, like this had a I had my sleeping bag out in the hallway At the hallway leading from my bedroom to my parents bedroom So it was like how old are you in this story like 1520 by the way? I want to bring one thing down to basics here. I am getting Constantly attacked about French kissing my mom You're the one that slipped or the town people keep on saying it like as I was doing it like I was a new French kiss

Oh, yeah, I tried to do it after I saw a loveboat episode when I was a young kid He went he saw I watched a loveboat episode with his mom and then afterwards slipped her the tongue Oh when you were not in a mental insane asylum is is like I know with the difference of kisses I know that's how they kissed for the next year. I try I tried tried I Was I was like my mom reacted you got to try you got to try You don't know who's gonna be receptive. You got a try right now. I didn't know the rules of kissing I was a child a little child. I was 15 years old

It's a child and French kissing your mom 15 is when you've already French kissed a person. It's no big deal. No, I was very young but so I was I was young I was camping out my hallway and and and I saw this presence it was a woman in a white dress with a blue like hood and She was over me. It was very peaceful. It was very quiet And she just put our hands out like this and I and I stood in a mate I contact with her for a couple of you know felt like a while

But it was probably very short and then I got up and she wasn't there. So it wasn't like I was awake I saw the whole thing. Okay, so this is yes. Were you previous to this woman appearing in front of you possibly? Yes asleep Okay, so I like all this happened while you were brushing your teeth No, this happened while you were in bed possibly asleep. I it happened while I was camping on the hallway asleep Okay, I woke up because I felt something I looked up and felt like I was being stared at and I was by this this very angelic image of a woman above me now Hey, it's something that's always stuck out to me in my grand scheme of whatever like one of those things that burnt into my head sure now Many years later about four or five years ago. I am at this event

with a Regular person and we got we start talking about Like not like what do you mean a regular I guess I revealed that he was a regular person before I like told you what he's gonna Tell me a corporeal person a corporeal person, but no like he's not like he's not a ghost Not he's not a medium. He's not a ghost person. Okay. He just said to me. We were talking and he said, you know, I As we were talking about other things. He's like, yeah, I have this kind of Psychic connection. I do feel like I see ghosts and I was like really and he goes you saw ghost when you were a kid Oh, I described the image to me with the hood

What did he say though a woman standing at your feet in a white outfit with a blue hood when you were a child you saw that now Paul are you sure because I know a lot of times people retell these things differently because it's like, you know He said blue hood yes, he just like it took my breath away because it was and like he said he's an empath That's what he sees when he looked into me that he saw that I saw ghost spirit attached to you still like a bogey I mean what I felt the way I felt it to be was that It was almost like a bow out of my feet like standing on my feet if my feet were like that like she was standing But then do you think though? This is a real question. Do you think though that that man? Let's take for let's take for like like let's assume the validity of both of these stories. Yes

It like if you said to that man, how do you know that would he say oh because she's still Right, that's what I mean. Well, he's been with you the whole time see the person well And that's what I kind of asked him like are you in the presence of this blue-hooded woman? Life is she here now? You just had that one moment that one glimpse right or yeah, you said maybe she's here right now Like and that's what I and I single I'm asking Because I'm not having luck with a live girl You're not having luck in the corporeal world. So like you keep using corporeal. I'm not sure why but I would love it

Maybe I need to open up. Maybe I need to get on one of these dating apps. Yeah Connects me with ghosts look bad idea. Yeah, I'm just swiping on specter Honestly, your commitment issues are so great. I feel like 12 days a year might be too much You know what back up too much you're smothering me Because I could feel you pressing on my chest while asleep and look I can see all the reasons Truthfully no Addition to it really freaked me the fuck out Did you jump up from your camping in the hallway and jump into your mom's bed and make out for make yourself feel better?

We never get in the bed with her, you know, she had her husband there that night. Oh, right And he didn't know about you guys. No, we had to keep it on the deal. Now. I'm just begging to be attacked. I know I Will say I will say something about this ghost. She comes into the inn Picks up a picture of him that looks like the lawyer. Oh, sorry. Oh, sorry the lawyer picks a picture of the ghost Looks at it. It looks like a picture that has an Instagram filter on it Um stares at it and then when she meets him just mere moments later moments later She's like, huh, who are you? She assumes a real person. You've just seen his picture Right, that's what was weird to me because either have him appear as a human being because he is again

He's not like a specter in this instance of these 12 days. He's he's a living breathing human man Let her discover him assuming it's a man and have to figure out. He's a ghost, right But the reality is if you see her see the picture right and then see him side-by-side Then and then there's newspaper clippings on the wall with pictures of him. She I thought oh, okay We've seen enough Scooby-Doo's to know that people hire people that look like maybe he's an actor They hire right a lot like him. Maybe the the innkeeper doesn't want people sure Maybe they're trying to chase away people like they don't they don't investigate They don't investigate at all. Everybody is so blue. Oh, okay. I mean everything is so slow

It takes place in a world where ghosts exist I mean like this is the scene where she talks to the innkeeper about the ghost Kate with Padden and Turner I'm here for the property appraisal. Yes, mr. Murray arrived early left early, too. What happened? It's probably the ghost Come on man Probably the good though Daniel's never harmed anyone Every once in a while. He does assert himself What does that mean? You're on a first-name basis with the ghost. No when you've worked here as long as I have

Daniel Jacob Forsyth He once owned this in many years ago He basically lays out the premise and then minutes later she sees of him and here's the other thing He just debunked our theory that means that Daniel is scaring away the people but yet he has not appeared there yet because There's a so maybe he's a ghost for some of the year and then he's corporeal for 12. No The cousin is the guy the ghost that's but he says he just said Daniel He think we're meant to we as well as everybody else spends most of the movie believing Daniel is the only ghost haunting the house

So this guy get all right. Well, we find out at the end M. Night Shyamalan style which apparently is blowing your mind right now, which is shocking Is no, I get it. I just that Harry is the ghost who's doing who's malicious Okay, I guess I thought like I was taking him in a face value that like that he had some sort of like conversation with Daniel Daniels like I don't want you to sell the house because later on they do talk He's like don't sell the house like it is confusing to be bros. Yeah. Yeah, but yet He leaves him alone for 12 days instead of like let me bring people in let me Yeah, let me tell you what went on this last year

Why don't you like jerk off and fuck while you're like like, you know, like when Ben Grimm isn't the thing for one day Yeah, he's gotta go do he's got to get laid. He's gotta get his dick wet by the way This is finally not made of stone Honestly, the person most turned on by ghost sex at this table is you yes. I mean do it I'm gonna listen. I'm not lying like I'm into like a bunch of sexy lady ghosts Like I could see you doing that eye roll that Dan accurate didn't go supposed to I would say that this movie also was shot So fucking quickly There's a scene when Daniel the ghost or corporeal man gets up to move his like plate and his knife falls on the ground and

Keep the scene just keep going. He cares. No, it's like let's go leave it behind leave it leave it Keep going. There are moments in this thing where I feel like people are like I kind of fub that take we got it We got it. We gotta go Everybody is just acting as though they can barely remember their lines. You know, I mean like that They're trying hard to remit. What was that was the line? Oh, oh, oh, yeah, let's take it take it back You know also her hair is not red to begin with and then as soon as she arrives at the end She's got a red wash in it. I don't know if they shot things. Do you want me to ask you? She says all Hallmark heroines have a very specific blowout. Oh well too many layers. Yeah

Absolutely too many layers, but now I thought this was a current movie and now that I realized it was 2015 Yeah, it was coming out of a Jennifer Aniston. I mean, it's like kind of an old sweet 2015. Yeah, that's what that's not Jennifer Aniston, you're right. That's you mean like friends Jennifer Aniston like the late 90s. Yes Yeah, I mean like 18 years way after Jenner a decade was such a classic It's stuck around especially for the Hallmark. Well, yeah, I was gonna say it might have just got it might have just gotten to Canada that They're still like Get back together. This is shot in your your neck of the woods in Massachusetts. Oh, was it? Yes, where do you know? I do know actually this was it was filmed the historic Proctor mansion located in

Rentham, Massachusetts and the Harding Allen estate located in Bar, Massachusetts. Okay, while the real Proctor mansion in Does not have a ghost story. There is a mystery surrounding the inn Juicy yeah, by the way, this you know I Just again want to get to the the chunk of this thing which is Kate has no one in her life No one to go home to her parents dead. I mean they're divorced. She's collateral damage. She she like they divorce her She doesn't does she talk to her mom on the phone at one point or no She doesn't know like she has seen it's leave the lead up to Christmas and she has no communication with either of her parents

They divorced her they they divorced they're still together, but they divorced her. She's collateral damage We were better without you Two options good options go with her mom or her dad or go with that head of the law firm who was as cool Hawaiian shirts By the way, it was like they shot him in the darkest room in Hawaii and chair. Oh Again, I was gonna bring this up before I just have to bring it up And I and at one point someone will just say yes, Paul. I hear you but it is the fact that I hate these Christmas movies where everyone's having their office company party on Christmas Eve. That's crazy. I've been around My that's a time for family not for like corporate work parties not Christmas Eve

Nobody's ever had an office party ever in the history You'd be the worst how also that office a thriving law office appears to just have the two of them in it and not be Not to be able to see or look at other offices Movie can't afford extras the movie can't afford office space you need to can afford a lot of extra snow They're like, this is great for the production value I was worried about their lungs honestly with all that extra snow too much Yeah, you just wanted to slam me and say that I haven't been around that many corporations Still I mean it's still I

Still think Christmas Eve party is a misnomer. It's not a thing. It's not like no, it's a holiday party is usually party Yes, you know late in the late teens early 20s of yes, no one's like, hey So we're just gonna get everybody together at the law firm tonight. Yeah, like Your family He's so great we try to record in his giant safe, but we always are here in that money that change rattling By the way, this is what I wrote down this this movie made me want to go to bed not like fall asleep But literally you could see your ghost. Yeah, but to like literally get Snuggled up in a bed like I felt the bed work in this movie was that an all-time. It was here's what I will say that

I enjoyed I love like a cozy New England in in the snow like Don't get me started give me Suki's meals at the dragon fly Give me the upstairs room with doors, please Make pancakes in the oven Like this guy did that was strange open up the oven. Here we go I'm assuming made them and then was just keeping them warm in the oven for how many people are you making pancakes for? It didn't give it a morning rush And none none of any of this movie made and there was what is there seven actors in the movie?

I mean, that's right tops. I'm gonna look at what the IMDb List is because it really can't be that much how much I what so I mean Yeah, I don't know that and I'm assuming they just feel like these hallmark movies They have to come in at a certain budget. So this is what they're doing. I mean It's hour and 30 minutes on the nose All right, let's see. How many if you fast-forward which I did Any of the establishing shots? Oh, yeah, that's 40 minutes out of the oh by the way There is so I wrote that down too. There is so much wasted 11 11 speaking rolls 11 speed

That is in a movie film. That's shocking Let's be and by the way, I'm looking at some of them and I don't even remember them Some of them don't even have pictures next to there. Yes. Yeah, so it's crazy. There are so much Wasted time in establishing shots. Yeah, so much wasted time within scenes lingering on lingering on set deck lingering on like stuff she just wants me to point out that Hallmark and lifetime does pay its actors well, and they always put them up in four seasons in the accommodation Honestly Here's what I'm gonna say Hallmark give us a movie

Christmas movie that's the four of us and we all fuck ghosts We all fuck there's four of us and we are corresponding to four ghosts Junzin. She says oh my god. I would love that Oh, this movie is is is Really trying to pull off this twist and I think that that's what's so weird about it is The love story is not working for me. Nope. I don't get it and then the twist is is Convoluted you get it. What's the twist? Third because Lily is also a really hanging out as well

And she's like able to bring him like she touches him with his hand Lily can grab Patrick's hand, but Patrick can't see Lily, but Patrick can see Harry first time She's seen Harry in 95 years Lily has never appeared to him has never thought well That's the weird thing. No, you just keep on writing who is Patrick who is Patrick? What do you mean? Is that his name? Is that a thing? I think that's his name Patrick is Daniel Well one is a brother right Patrick is the brother and then Harry is the one oh wait a minute What's the lead guy's name? What's it a trick Daniel Daniel? Oh, I'm saying Patrick by mistake. Sorry everybody. Sorry. Yeah, okay, Junus Sorry, sorry, sorry. Yeah cousin Henry brother Charles is the murderer

Daniel Prince Harry Prince William cousin is it Henry or princess Megan? What is it about in that or that is give ladies a boner what ladies love here's what ladies love ghosts yeah Yeah, you know Like those ends at a foreign location and then quitting their job. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, like under the Tuscan Sun or whatever No, what's it called a year and oh, yeah, yeah, that's that yeah, thank you You said horny for inns love at all, but why why why? I'm not I don't like I don't like a B&B I don't know why I don't like their

Conversations, I mean a B&B rather because you know what those people want to talk to you I don't like that and guess what? I hate people. Oh, I get so much guilt for not being down for the Because I'm on vacation and I slept yeah, I don't want to be there And they're all listening to you fuck all they do is listen to you fuck because all you're in is their old Daughters former room. Oh, I went to she's in college now and I get to fuck in her room I went on like a romantic trip to a B&B and it was not it was not fun the room like the theme of the room was like The theme? Oh, yeah, there's always these and there's always a tub a freestanding tub in the middle of the room Yeah, and there's always stuffed animals always stuffed animals June is asking when did I go on I was just gonna say

Did you go on it with your mom? Which I'm also on guys check out now that Jason on nailed it Nailed it holiday season. What was I was so jealous Yeah, to see you as a contestant that was very high Very big highlight. I what I screamed. I was I've been trying to get on nailed it. Oh, I can help you I want No, they want you Did you do something to them possibly?

But holy shit and you in that tux did you wait? Are you talking about there's a new one now? Yeah, there's a second one. Yeah, there's a second one that just came out It's a holiday the holiday holiday season holiday season. Yeah, that's all it's called. Yeah, it has just come out and It's a lot of fun and I am contestant Jason is a judge not on the same episode. Yeah, but uh, oh man That was a stressful day. That was a very oh god. Yeah, it was incredibly because I You know, they were very nice to me. They wanted me to be a judge and I said I really want to be contestant. Can I do it and then and then they said to me all right? You can go on and I said, well, here's my bit. I want to play a

Pharmacist from Pasadena. I'll say my name is Ted and then Nicole the whole time would be like But you look like my friend Paul and I'm like, I don't know who that is and I recorded a video And I did all my intro intro and then they said, you know what you do have to do it as yourself I'm glad that that change was made by the way. Yes It would have been weirder it would have been too weird I think for the nailed it audience, which is a lovely audience, but it would have been weird Oh, it would have been so confusing. It's such a funny bit. Right like so many so many of nailed its fans Which I love are like

Eight-year-olds. Well, I guess I just maybe is my dog the six-year-old daughter now thinks Paul is a celebrity. Yeah Doesn't care about you But I would think that that kind of bait and switch of your identity would be much like the confusing nature of this movie Yes, like where are the rules of nail? Why am I? Yeah, why did why would we do it like this real person? I feel like it nailed it people react honestly versus in this the reactions are not honest at all They were people should be when they meet Daniel losing their entire mind. Oh, yeah, I mean that I mean this but this whole movie I Mean maybe she's working so hard that Jesus. I mean sometimes I feel like this like, you know, like, all right. What's the next thing? All right, I'll just take it. I'm just taking it on the chin

I got it. I got to keep on moving forward. I don't have time to react Also, it can't again low stakes. She wants a promotion So she's willing to spend 12 days in a haunted mansion where a ghost She doesn't need to spend 12 days there. She doesn't need to spend any time there No, she doesn't she doesn't need to do any of this stuff like so she can't if I mean guess she's like she's you know Savin pinching her pennies so she's not staying in a local place after the first night where she believes There is a man in the house that is hiding. She doesn't get the muck out of there. No, and she calls the sheriff to come over He's like it's all clear. She walks in the house. He's there again. June wants to go

She says I'll ask again because I haven't been saying it She goes why does this have to happen in a week and I can answer that because it needs to be done before taxes are Handed in because they don't want to get Who cares? I mean the estate of the old lady, I guess I gotta save money on those, you know estate taxes Oh my god. I mean then here's the I mean so he he gets dealt with this final question What yeah, does he stay? Yes, or does he go so he's able to lily? Gives him an option like you can stay you can come to the afterlife with me your true love You fucked me in the modern in the in our real life. You fucked me over. Yes by rum running

Yep, and then and then I died at having your baby heartbreak Heartbroken heartbroken and now I had to watch you kiss But just gently kiss like this is like a hallmark movie. This is like a handhold in a pack. Yes a great question Why does she fall asleep? Yes, it almost Puts there are I'm not kidding. There are here. Is this another way with fantasy for women the man ghost man Daniel puts Kate to bed like a child Different times

Into bed very tired Like that as a do you want a man to put you into bed like in your street clothes? I mean, she's always in her she's always in street. That's how I knew the show is that doesn't I knew this movie was cold because yes She's she's like in four layers under he puts her he tucks her in repeatedly like like she's a baby She's infantilized. I kind of do want to be put to bed. Oh, she wants to be put to bed, too She's what yeah, that's that's insane. You know that's me to tuck her in I feel like at a certain point You're so tired that you wouldn't mind being tucked in

Someone to just have sex with you while you're half asleep. That's a difference Yeah, that makes sense like because then you don't have to do anything that I understand kind of our But that's be that's just like I don't want to have to do I want my needs to be met without having to ask for it She just took me in and I'll lay there like a dead rat Tuck me and fuck me. That's the t-shirt. Oh My god Um, all right, so do you know someone to say like she feels like Lily is Maddened for the wrong reasons like he was rum running to save the in because no one was coming because of the influenza in the economy

And she's just pissed that he's not making it back for Christmas Who cares for that party that looks like they couldn't afford extra so they have to do most of it on the yeah Did he know did Daniel know that she was pregnant? No, I don't think so because that was his misunderstanding You know that she was pregnant But he only had that he got me and when he got killed did he only had that misunderstanding by the way She should have been a podcast host who's doing like a true crime thing like ooh We can limetown this guys But did Daniel know about the kid or was it a reveal boo in that other when the tavern or like did you know that she had a

Kid reveal I think it was a reveal But he knew he felt like she had betrayed him with his brother because he saw that porch scene Remember the cold open of the movie is him watching that same. Yes, hands he had porch scene But the moment that that boring woman in a sheath dress the tavern owner says That there was a baby. We all knew it was his right. No, you'd but Why to take them another four eighths of the movie, which is a half to find out about that I'm here. Well, here's the thing. He has in all of his years of coming back for 12 days He even though he says he did he never gets to the root of any of the information except because it's not until

cousin Harry helped him Research it but then and so now we know he was like he's the one who organized the killing Yeah, but Jin just brought up a good point which I'm kind of confused by but I'm gonna read it out loud She says did why did Daniel have sex outside of his marriage? He should answer for that and I go with who when did he have sex and get Lily pregnant to have his child with Lily? But I mean that is kind of crazy. Yeah, not his marriage. Oh, oh, you mean like well, no, she was his fiance That's what I thought too. He was his yeah, they were going to they were to be married, I believe but outside this marriage But she goes but still but still that's true

Time that wasn't the right thing, but I think a lot of people did it. I think we're fucking But here's my question is the reason why Lily is so aggro about him coming back that's cuz she is pregnant She knows she's pregnant my yes, but hasn't told him correct and is maybe gonna tell him on Chris I mean like that's the thing who know I would have loved to be like she was gonna tell me What's the story? There is no story, you know, like there's no like this is a this is this this should have a mythology to it This movie, you know, this should have they don't have time. They don't have they simply don't have time I mean cuz this is how they this is how that it kind of ends up Which is the lamest response or the the the biggest like third all in which is this why is this happening?

Why haven't you moved on? We're also when I go I murdered someone He's afraid of judgment as long as you stay here You're my anchor You're the one who chases people away make sure he's alone You killed him and cursed him to this purgatory. No, that's not true. I Don't know why you're stuck here Danny. I swear it. I know He's not one here Turns out it's not a curse after all

It's a miracle Why why cuz now by the way now Lily has shown up, right? He only see Lily only he can see Lily Yeah, because she shows up and then this guy who killed him doesn't look look over and Kate see him I think and Kate see Lily. I think Kate can see the killer and Daniel, but not Lily because Why what are the rules? I because I'm my miracle because she's looking at him nodding If fear is what's keeping you here, Harry, and I forgive you I also like that Harry is still in a scarf and I had he's so hot He's like but everyone's like more layers more layers

Well that I mean there it is. I mean it like guys. I still don't really understand. I don't either Lily. What's the gift? What's the gift? What's the gift to heal all the miracle? What's the miracle like? What I don't understand. What does that mean the miracle is so that he would find out and understand that that she loved him She didn't betray him. She was gonna have his child Etc. Etc. Is that the is that what she needs him to know is that the is that the that's is that what makes him restless? You know like you know, yeah, I don't I don't know that doesn't make any sense It's dumb. This is a dumb movie. You know what we had this opinion about this film But there are people out there with a different opinion is now time for second opinions

The movie was a piece of shit yet this person recommends it Tell me what is the message? Maybe that art is subjective. I need a second opinion Thank you John Lejois and here are second opinions called from Amazon.com. There are 580 reviews of this film. Whoa 86 percent are five Reviews only 1% are one star reviews This is higher than most of the films that we do on this show the average rating is 4.8 out of 5 stars Crazy, let's get into it. Jay Ionchi writes

Good story good acting the British believe in ghosts So this story is rather British and very well told all the characters are well acted Rationally, so they made the story almost believable if your ideas about ghosts are very rational I found the movies made for a lifetime Terribly primitive, but this one is good due to the acting 5 stars This is a man who wrote this. I don't know Jay Ionchi And then I I didn't read this one part. It goes. I enjoyed it at first. I purchased it for my family and they agreed

Oh, wow NGM writes I have come to really enjoy this movie being a grief educator I felt like it had a lot to say about grief and loss and unresolved issues as well as Love within ourselves even if it was a fictional story. The music is quite peaceful and restful. I don't know that I did think to myself that I would maybe Purchase this soundtrack and play it while making Christmas cookies. What are you talking about? This is a great movie to relax by That would double the box office returns of this movie

A great movie to relax by sometimes when I can't sleep. I watch it again. That's fucking. This is saying it's a sleeping pill But that is what you just said pause. Yeah, I wanted to be tucked in. I did too birdwatcher writes The young bird watcher birdwatcher guys. No joke. I work for a bird watching channel. Remember that I do. Go ahead. Yeah Though young children won't be interested in it It's different and better than the usual hallmark romances Where a single parent with a dead spouse or a workaholic meets and falls in love with blah blah blah Those get old fast. Was the one this one is interesting This one has a twist that being said there's a few flaws when one looks at the messages given regarding ethics and criminal activities

Let's not go there five stars Was the one we did with mario lopez and most of johan heart abc family. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah Remember that when they all got the they were all uh exploding out of their butts in that that house. Do you remember that? They got the butt exploding. See this movie could have used a little bit more butt explosions Um, and then this is interesting. I'm just gonna read this one. This is uh, mica jaw writes The fantastical ghost story really needs to be watched several times to figure out the time sequence and the relationships of the various characters At either end of a century. I love this film The co-stars are compatible and believable and the caretaker is warm and comfortable in his role

I like daniel's little eccentricities Eating eating like what having like sideways hair He was always eating chestnuts Didn't you feel like he was always like no, he was having a nice He's always like yeah carving up an apple Oh, also remember when he was watch, you know what we didn't talk about when she comes in and he's got his shirt off But also his pants are down like a little bit. Well, yeah, because his benders are off because it's been you know That was fucking weird

What was interesting too is she is That's the moment where she gets super horny for him. But all you see is his bare back Like he doesn't turn around. You don't say it's like that's as sexy as this can get I mean, I thought it was sexy when he gave her the fireman carry in the beginning when he just Scooped her up and dropped her outside on the porch. We've been loved to be scooped up and put into a snowdrift or put into bed June wants me to write in that the the back was sexy. I could have used more chest hair From from Kate From who from the innkeeper from the cop

He needed a chemical peel on his face. Oh boy Well, that's you know what we've talked about second opinions. Let's go to third opinions out very rarely do we do this But this one made me laugh. This is from andre. It's a one star review and he writes It's horrible and scary not at all Christmas-like. Oh my god, you know what? I don't disagree that some of this movie was scary Joe you're wrong I wish I wish this movie was able to scare me. I wish this movie was had a real scare. I wish this movie had um Like a different gear to get to yeah, it's just like What was the one where Nicole Kidman?

This is our house the others. Oh, that was great. She just wrote. Uh, I had a few scares and then she wrote Our five-year-old son. She goes he was scared Really, why were you watching this with our five-year-old? That's not correct That isn't correct. Uh, all right. So, um, let's go learn a lesson about falling in love with ghosts Let's go around you can make it work. Yeah, that's what's fun. And by the way, that's basically what what basic what kates This is crazy. Actually, we didn't talk about this at the end of the movie in the eighth act Um, kate says, you know what? I'll take it. I'll make this a little bit You can be my boyfriend 12 days a year and guess what? I'm working so hard the other days of the year

This is this is all I can take It's kind of what iina garden has with uh her with jeffrey the barefoot contestant because he only comes in for the weekends He teaches at yell the other four or five great So they just come in for those weekends. Yeah plow town and then he's out of there But you know what? That's a lot of plowing 12 days straight I could get it if it was like one day like 12 days if you're not getting the rest of the year She said june says they have it perfect a perfect marriage. I know Here's what I love. I would love if in the last scene daniel comes up to her and he's now he's chosen

He's gonna stay here forever and she goes and she's like you're smothering me. This is too much We have to break up and she's so cold dumps him And then he's stuck there. He's stuck there. No social security number. He's a man out of time He's from the past. He doesn't know how to do anything. This is a spin-off movie. Come on Or he tries to go back to the other world and he's like uh lily I was loving she was like uh pass. You know what? I'm kind of into cousin harry Oh, man. He's like the bad boy of the story. He's a murderer. So jess. Would you recommend this film? Absolutely not. Okay. And again, I out of everyone here was willing to give it so many different chances

I watched the other in movie that was on netflix. Yeah. Oh, you watch both of them I watched the movie that just came out and and I gave and I gave it a lot of chance I'm I'm very excited about that netflix sitcom. That is just a holiday based live action multicam That's insane. Is it always christmas? It's always christmas. So it's a it's a multicam show with denise quaid called like I maybe a very merry whatever. Yeah, that's like literally a very whatever, but is it always christmas? I think it's the 10 episodes all take place over christmas And then what will season two be all over christmas next christmas. Yeah Wow, that seems

flawed. Yeah All right, and then june is gonna unmute herself june. Do you recommend this movie? I loved it. I loved it. Honestly, that was the scariest moment of the entire podcast. Like this really is like there's a ghost Did you really love it june? Yes No, really? I that's I don't know what to do with that. We're so similar usually. I don't know what to do with this information

I mean jason, I feel like I know where you're at. No, this was bad. This was boring bad Like I like I enjoyed uh mario lopez melissa jones hard holiday Oh, that was just so much more so much more. Uh, they'd had it had more going on Yeah, this had this was a movie that had so many characters that were doing That gave so little to the movie. So that movie didn't hold a candle to this I would argue that mario lopez seen where he's shirtless. Oh, yeah In that in that uh very tiny bathroom that they were all shitting in was hotter than any moment of this I agree and also no chest hair on mario lopez

And you know what that didn't bother me. She goes. I prefer daniel to lopez according to june. Wow This is blowing my mind. I found their chemistry to be better same and I found their romance to be more understandable. I agree Agreed hard. Agree. All right. Well, we'll see you guys all next christmas as we find another romance Uh, uh, jessica, what do you got going on? What do you want to talk about? Well, um, this is weird But I'm on not one but two shows that take place in space. Whoa One of them hymen earth and the other one. I'm in space. Wow the first one comes out really soon It's called avenue five and it's gonna be on hbo. Oh, wow. I am in space for that one I love like sandra bullock and gravity

Uh, very similar. No, this is by the creator of veep armando energy. Do you pronounce it armando armando? Because I always hear some armando armando armando Because now I know for sure because I always think it's armando and then people say armando and then I'm like, right It is in this instance armando potato potato. We all know an armando armando. Diaz. That's right It's really funny. Hugh lori and josh gad all these like amazing people people in the show Um, so you are woods. So I'm trapped in space. Um, so, uh, look out for that in january Got it. I'm in a movie called like a boss. Okay coming out. Oh, yeah Tiffany hattish and rose burn. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, miguelo tata's movie. Um, and then, uh, yeah

And then later in the spring, I'll be in another space show called space force. Oh, wow. That's the great daniels movie Yes, the great daniels tv show. That's right, but I'm on earth in that one funny Wow, you've really carved out a space some space for yourself in space very surprising. Isn't it? It really is Would you say that you mostly work in sci-fi now? Yeah, I think so. You are a sci-fi star. Could I ask a question? No, it's so weird because I'm promoting I've just been cast in an ann of green gables remake I'm doing that and a little house on the prairie I'm doing all olden times olden days shows

Little house and here's the thing though. I want to say no one wants it as much as I love Shut up paul as much as I love the olden days. I would be terrible in an olden days movie I would be as bad as that woman playing lily who sounded like she was like a millennial She was just like, oh my god, like like I don't want you to go away. Come back for christmas You just sound like yourself now. I know I feel like I wouldn't be able to pull it off So what is movie have been better if june says you'd be a perfect josie pie? I appreciate that

I appreciate that we never saw her as old as I am Which is well, let's be honest like in in olden days. You would be dead by now your life expectancy would be Yeah, you would you would have had you would have been taken by cholera Dead'sville, um, but yeah, I I listen I I don't judge these actors because I think I would have been just as bad quite honestly Jason, uh, what about you? What do you got going on? You know, I'm gonna promote uh, as we talked about earlier the holiday season of nail dress Which we are both guests on me as a judge you as a contestant is some of the funniest stuff Nicole friend of the pod nicole buyer is the host

Jacques Torres, so good. Uh, it's a great show if you haven't watched it It's a great show to watch with your whole family. Did Jacques Torres over the holidays? Yeah Jacques Torres bring uh, some of his chocolates to set. Yes. Yeah, there's chocolates around. Yeah, he passes them to you Yeah, yeah, really? Yeah, he passes you a secret chocolate in between. No, not a secret. Oh, no a secret He brings around the tray of chocolates and you can have it. You have access to chocolate You probably have a different experience. I chose not to be treated any differently than a contestant Uh, how big of you and I chose to be treated like a god damn king. You were like the beginning of coming to america I was like, Wes don't even talk don't even look at me. I don't know what those judges were doing

They disappear for long stretches at a time. I'm not allowed to even tell you. Oh, you see Yeah, they have a back room that I didn't see or no, it is in true real time. Like you guys have that long Oh, it's it's it is how many in a day one Wow But you know, there's a lot of like little pieces And but once the cook starts it is full cook and then you have like a big break between the cooks and then you out You know, it is technically a game show. So there are like very Very staunch legal things that need to happen

After the game is explained because it's like that quiz show law like you need to You need to go they can't fake who wins. No, they can't they can't fake who wins They can't cheat time. They can't do like all the they're there They have to adhere to all the rules that like jeopardy or any of those games. Do you understand the game? Do you understand what's going on? We're gonna restate the rules because in case Nicole or Jacques says something that isn't Let her perfect even though the show is goofy and fun It is a legal somebody. Yes. So they have so basically they after they do their thing

Then you are brought to another room where they read you All the rules of that particular challenge. This is honestly more interesting than the entire movie. We were forced to watch Yeah, um, I I'll promote I'll promote nailed it, which I think is so fun So it's such a great show and you just came home from jolly old England I just was in England for a couple of months shooting a movie that will in theory come out next year. Um, I don't know I you know Gather the family around the hearth and watch john wick chapter three parabellum guys. That sounds Like a terror. I will never in my entire life even watch the trailer

Oh my god, it's you're miss hearing and he's fantastic in it. Um, why also I will also plug a joint Uh sheer manzookas project, which is the good place Which will be coming back after the new year to finish their final episodes It's just been a great season Uh, and uh, I think you've already seen jason and you've already seen me But you may see us again as this thing wraps up and heads to its final completion Maybe maybe not. Um, and if you are looking for something to listen to and you are maybe frustrated or excited by the rise of skywalk

Or I will say this week on unspooled Uh, we were talking about star wars and we actually have the original editor of star wars on unspooled this week And it was a fascinating chat with him and if you missed it a week ago We had ryan johnson on the show and ryan johnson gave his picks for movies that should be included on the afi list and they're great Oh, I love that. Yeah, I'll give a shout out just for the sake of shouting out star wars related Yeah, um, um, uh, malary rubin and jason concepts. You know doing star wars for this season of binge mode. Oh, it's great And it's fucking awesome It is so good. Love it. And uh, and I also just give a shout out. I know I've just really into this movie

But I love on cut gems. Uh, so go see that great. It's a great great movie Oh, and I finally in london got to see mannequin pussy live. They played drunk too. It was fantastic Great work that band is rad Still guys my song of the summer still works in the winter I love it and june wanted to make sure that everyone knows that a perfect stocking stuffer or gift for this holiday season Maybe it's a new year's gift as you start your resolutions is her book that she co-wrote with kate black called represent A woman's guide to running for office and changing the world It's a workbook, uh, a practical workbook, uh, that can show you just how easy it is to run for office

And uh, this is not june saying it, but there's me saying it You don't have to run for the biggest offices. There are many community. Yes, you can have a job Like a day job and then also do this and you don't need to raise hundreds of thousands of dollars It is the local level is where there are things that are available to you guys Things that are available. Absolutely. Uh, all right. I'm also just gonna plug the big thief record two hands Just because it's my favorite record of the year That's it. What's the tiktok man? Why are you calling that? I know, but why are you called that? Oh, I can't tell you I'm not allowed to tell you. You got to see the movie

Just tiktok man makes me feel sick. Tiktok miss st. Clair. Tiktok. Tiktok. Tiktok. Do you kill anybody? Oh, wow. You should tiktok jay. Yeah, you should just yeah. Do you kill somebody? Oh, would you want to know? I'm up here. I'm a ghost. I'm a ghost. A sexy ghost. Sexy ghost tucking you into bed. All right That was a lot of plugs a big shout out to our producer end of the year And the year plugs a big shout out new year everybody happy new year have big shout out to our producer April haley who pulls all these movies and all these amazing clips are Are all the time producer codie

Who is just killing it all time codie fisher and our our engineer devin Who is the heart and soul behind the board all the time whether we're on the road or You know in the studio can I and I have a very big announcement from june She is not going to be a criminal juror so Oh And I would just like to at the here. We are at the end of the year I would like to say thank you to everybody who came out to all of the shows all of this tour Yeah, we toured a lot of this country this year. You have some of the nicest fans the best the best in the world

Thank you for bringing your babies. Thank you for letting us hold them. Yes. And by the way, we're going to continue touring I held so many babies. That's a good turn. We're going to Vancouver. We're going to san francisco. Yeah, san francisco Maybe you guys shouldn't have been such dicks about canada. You're going to get a lot of. No, we have come at me Vancouver Come at me. Cove all tickets and information are available on the new hd tgm.com website We got the actual website. You can find out all the information about that there. Thank you everybody so so much. Bye. Bye