How Did This Get Made? - Matinee Monday: Winter's Tale w/ Andy Daly

Episode Date: December 5, 2022

Andy Daly (Comedy Central's Review) joins Paul & Jason to discuss an adaptation of a book that was deemed unfilmable, the 2014 romantic fantasy Winter’s Tale. They’ll cover the flying horses, Will Smith's cameo as Lucifer in a Jimi Hendrix shirt, and the totally bonkers library scene. Plus, Jason explains how this movie is basically Harry Potter and why he's so obsessed with the trailer for “Blended.” (Originally released 02/25/2014)For more Matinee Monday content, visit Paul's YouTube page: https://www.youtube.com/c/PaulScheerBuy Drop Dead Fred LIVE on Vinyl: https://hdtgm.bandcamp.com/Follow Paul on Letterboxd: https://letterboxd.com/paulscheer/HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: https://discord.gg/paulscheerCheck out Paul and Rob Huebel live on Twitch (https://www.twitch.tv/friendzone) every Thursday 8-10pm ESTSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael here: listen.earwolf.com/deepdiveSubscribe to Unspooled with Paul Scheer and Amy Nicholson here: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledCheck out The Jane Club over at www.janeclub.comCheck out new HDTGM merch over at https://www.teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmWhere to find Jason, June & Paul:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on Twitter

Flying Horses, headbutting, and devils that wear Jimi Hendrix t-shirts. We saw Winter's Tale, so you know what that means. Now it's time for, How to Discompane. Come and have a good time, celebrate some failure, not just be a hater, cause you know you wonder how to discompane. Let's go in the mediocrity of subpar arts. Perhaps we'll find the answer to the question, how did this get made? Hello people of Earth, and welcome to How Did This Get Made? I am joined as always by Jason Manzo, cause how are you Jason? Oh boy, I sat through this movie today, not happy about it. Neither am I. Sadly, June Diane Rayfield will not be here today. Heartbreaking, I would love to hear what she has to say about this movie. I felt like I really was bummed, because I feel like she could have loved this movie.

I think she might have thought this movie was amazing. I know, I talked to her about it last minute. So let's try at moments to find what June might have liked about this. Well, maybe our special guest will channel the energy of June Diane Rayfield. Very special guest. First time guest, he is the star of the brand new Comedy Central Show review, which starts on March 6th, and the star of the Earwolf podcast, the Andy Daly podcast project. Please welcome Andy Daly. Thank you very much. It is actually called the Andy Daly podcast pilot project, believe it or not. It is called that. It tells for the unlimited elements of it.

I myself always get it wrong. Oh, okay. No, that's the most descriptive title possible. Right, because people submit pilots. That's correct. I'm excited to actually do a podcast with you, Andy. I don't think we've ever done anything before. That's true. No, we never have. That's a good point. Yeah, very exciting.

I want to say this straight off the bat. I saw this movie at 1.30 this afternoon. Yes. Was anybody else in the theater? I was ushered into a completely empty theater upon the movie. Okay, I could talk for the full hour about just the trailers before this movie. I would love to talk about blended the trailer. Can we talk about where you are going to Africa? That's blended. Yeah.

What? I want to talk about that forever. But, right as trailers ended and right as the movie started, somebody walked in and I was like, oh, fuck, now I got to share this whole theater. I was at a private screening, Andrew Daly. It was me. We sat next to each other. We had a very romantic time. Yes, it was really nice. Well, I saw it last night in a theater with another person who left midway through.

Because they came, probably, because they finished jerking off. This movie, it's so interesting because... Horse pervert. Someone who's into horses that are actually dogs that are actually Pegasus. Jesus. This movie, I want to give it like a participation ribbon. For what? Because I feel like everybody...

It was barely participating. I feel like people showed up and they were trying. I feel like people were trying. I could say something in defense of this film. I told my wife last night that I was going to go see this and she is one of these people who reads books. Right. And she pointed out that this had been a book. And a very successful book.

And a successful one that she read and liked. Let's just say right off the top, always a challenge to turn a novel into a movie. And when it's magical realism on top of it, an extra challenge. So this has got a little bit of the Time Traveler's wife element going on. Well, let me just say something about this movie just to give it a background. It is a book, it's on New York Times' best books of the 20th century. Wait, what? Yes, it's a very popular book.

Best books of the 20th century because the New York Times says so? Or because enough people bought that book? Is that a rating or is that a volume of 42? It was included in the New York Times' 22 most important works of American fiction. What? Yes. But the book of the 20th century? That was my addition.

Because I was going to say, this is a lot of books in the 20th century. Well, this is American fiction. That's pretty bananas. That's pretty crazy. And this book has been labeled and deemed unfilmable. Martin Scorsese was supposed to do this movie and walked away and said it is unfilmable. I read The Gangs of New York was an attempt to film this movie. Oh, really?

No, I'm just kidding. It's almost identical to The Gangs of New York. It's basically it. There's so many things about it that are glaring and then so many things about it that are just, wait, we were talking right before it started. I don't even know if I could explain this movie to anyone. I simply cannot explain. As an exercise, I was trying to explain the plot to myself.

And I didn't get very far because as soon as I hit on the word miracles, I realized I don't understand what miracles mean in this movie. And I don't understand the relation to stars or destiny. The whole movie seems predicated on everyone has a miracle that they are capable of giving out and that is their destiny. And as long as your destiny is unfulfilled, then you are immortal? But there is something also about that too because I wrote down one of the things. Well, I guess this is kind of at the end.

With the end, this is not to spoil anything, but it says when the... You spoil anything. It wouldn't make sense. If you watch this movie in reverse order, it would make the same amount of sense. It is about, I guess it's about destiny, but it also doesn't take into account that like, in this movie, everything works out well, right? So what about the people who things don't work out well for? I don't know.

Is it the case in this movie? And I don't think we'll ever solve these questions. But is it the case that every human has one miracle that they can call on? Is that what it is? I don't know if that's it because then everybody would be full of magic all the time. Well, here's my question. The world would be like magic fucking city. No, you see, now here's the thing.

And this brings a good point because I thought about this. Magic City on Stars. Magic City, love that. Miami, hot. People liked it. But here's the thing, if everyone has one miracle, then wouldn't Russell Crowe want to kill everyone? That's what I would think because Russell Crowe wants to kill. So I don't think everybody has a miracle.

Him, so let me try my exercise. Russell Crowe is a demon, right? And he was grooming Colin Farrell to also be a demon, I think we can say. And Colin Farrell was too virtuous and ran away and didn't want any part of the demon lifestyle, which made Russell Crowe fixate on him as someone that he had to get. And then Russell Crowe came to believe that Colin Farrell is going to use his miracle. Right. And that makes him all the angrier, makes destroying him all the more urgent.

Because that's run for the other side. He says to lose the thread. Right. He says to lose the thread. That's a waiting for the other side. And we don't want that, especially because she's a virgin. He makes special effort to talk about virgin blood. Well, he kills that waiter who he also called a virgin.

Oh, really? Yeah, because he could only, well, I want to get, we'll take it back a little bit. The thing that's, I think you're right, Andy. That's actually a very succinct point. I don't think Colin Farrell knew Russell Crowe as a demon, first of all. Right. No. But Russell Crowe is like a demon, like a hilarious demon who's literally working for Lucifer.

Right. Spoiler alert, played by Will Smith. That's the big surprise cameo that everyone is talking about. Really? Is anybody talking about it? I just know that it's very much people are like, we can't tell you who the surprise is, but when you see the surprise, you're going to know it. It's great.

Oh, it's awful. It's awful. It's a terrible couple of scenes that he's in. Yeah. Awful. Should we just start at the beginning? We should. I think if we start at the beginning and try and work our way through, we might get somewhere.

And I will say this much about Will Smith's character. I think he was sold in this movie by going, you can come in for a day. Oh, yeah. And you can just totally score. This is gonna get you there. You're gonna really. And you're Lucifer. You're the devil.

Okay. And two million dollars for one day's work. I'll bet you. Yo, easily. Right? Easily. Okay. So the first thing opens on Adam Sandler.

Okay. He is a guy being set up on a blind date with Drew Barrymore. This blended movie is arguably as confusing as this movie. This trailer, I could not wrap my head around this trailer at all. Please watch it. I woke June up last night and made her watch the trailer because it was fun. Is there any way to drop the entire trailer into the episode right now? I think we could, but it's much more visual.

You won't get the doctor's short. Okay. So they're on a date. Are you really going to go through this? Drew Barrymore eats something spicy. And she's like, oh no, too spicy. And then he's like, well, here is this French onion soup. And then she scarves the French onion soup with cheese all over her face.

And then it has like a big cheese amount. A big cheese glob in her mouth. It's gross. And then it's like, oh, I guess those two won't work out. But then for some reason, their credit cards got swapped. Well, because they have to meet up again. Yes. And when they meet up again.

I buy that. I buy that. Yeah. They realize that her sister is dating his boss. And each of them were, they were both supposed to go on a vacation together. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. No.

His sister, Drew Barrymore's sister was dating Adam Sandler's boss. Yeah, that's what I said. By the way, and they were going to go on a vacation together. But now they broke up. They can't. Yes. So then they both independently of each other. Okay, all right.

So, so, so Drew Barrymore asks her sister, hey, can I have the Africa tickets? And Adam Sandler asks his boss, hey, can I have the Africa tickets? Yes. And then they both say in split screen, we're going to Africa. But they don't know each other until they get to Africa. Well, they, they are, they've just had one terrible blind date. Okay, okay. But also I don't understand how they bought these tickets because the amount of kids,

they all, they each have like three kids. Now there's twice as many people on the trip as should be, I feel like. Yes. It's like Brady Bunch goes to Africa. Yes. It's just like the Hawaii episodes of the Brady Bunch only in Africa as if the, the episodes happened when Mike and Carol started dating. And, and, and it's just full of like crazy jokes that make no sense.

Hey, I was, I was mystified. I, I was like, I thought it was a good omen that I was playing before, but that, go watch that trailer. It's better. Do yourselves a favor. Go watch that trailer. Okay. I'm sorry.

I missed it. I was getting popcorn. So this movie basically opens. Well, I mean, we can't get into the past and present. Let's just go from the past. Constantly jumping between three different, two different time periods. Yeah. From two.

Well, I mean, there's also, I have a question about how long, cause I also feel like was, well, I'll get into that question later. All right. I'll say this though, early in the movie, we see a Colin Farrell who has longer hair than the guy that we spend most of the movie with. Yes. And that's just a mystery, right? It's just a total mystery.

Yes. Who is this guy? When is this guy? It's a mystery that gets solved later, but it's not one of those little mysteries that gets dangled early. Did you see where they put the baby in the boat? Well, yeah. Well, I want to talk about the baby.

We got to talk about that. That's important. But anyway, I was going to say about that thing, you know, like in good fellas, when it opens on this mysterious thing that we don't understand what it is, and we're excited and interested to find out what's leading up to this. Yeah, leading up to that. Yeah. This, in contrast, is simply confusing, that we see him with longer hair, and then we

see him with shorter hair for a long time. We just know that he exists in the past and the present, but there's no payoff in that scene. Yeah. It's 2014 and 1913. Right. 1916. But here's the other thing, in 2014, and we can kind of dissect some of the plot here

too, because he seems to be living above Times Square and Grand Central State, sorry, in the past. No, no, in the present. No, in the present, he lives in that apartment. But no, but he was up there going in the little drawer. Oh, I don't know if he lived there. But remember, he discovered it. Okay, no, no.

He discovered where he used to live. Yeah, what it is, is that's the first symptom of his memory returning, because he remembers that place. But wait. And he finds the box with his memories. But he was never there. He was in 1916. No, because his parents went through Ellis Island.

No. And then they had to go back. Yeah, but why would they ever be in Grand Central Station? Well, that's where he lived. Remember? That's where he lived. He lived in the roof of Grand Central Station. But that's my issue.

I don't think it, because his parents steal that little toy boat. Yes. Okay. Put a little baby. Put a little baby. Okay, so the movie opens on Ellis Island, okay? And there's a Russian couple with a baby. Yes.

And they're trying to get in to the country. They're Russian? I believed so. Okay. Or they were Irish or something. They were Irish, because Colin Farrell oddly has an Irish accent, but was never brought up in Ireland. No.

They sounded Russian to me, but I don't know. That's just confusing. It doesn't, it wouldn't even help explain why Colin Farrell has an accent. Accents in this movie were a disaster. A big disaster. Yes. Okay, so then, how dare you kick me, Andy Daly? You son of a bitch.

I didn't want, I felt like you were possibly insulting Russell Crowe's accent. Russell Crowe's performance in this movie, they spilled the butcher, looked very mellow. Very small. They were rejected and because of a pulmonary infection. Consumption is a very big theme. Yes. So the two parents are sent back to wherever the fuck they came from. Right.

But while they're leaving, while they're leaving, they take a model boat out of the ship they're now on headed back to Ireland slash Russia. They hollow it out, they put their baby in it and they drop it over the side of the ship. By the way, terrible idea that A, that you're putting a baby in a model boat, and they look to be miles away from shore. Yes, they are very far away. What they did to that child is unsurvivable. Yes, it is.

It could not be survived. They might as well have said, we need to save our child from going back to where we come from, let's shoot it. And by the way, I won't say this much, not in the novel. I know that. Is that real? Are you serious? Yes.

Very serious. Because here's what's weird about that. That's the only way it makes sense. I know. It's totally unnecessary. You don't need that scene at all. Exactly. All you need to know is that he who's raised an orphan and had no money.

Yes. I know that. I mean, they could have just been like, because the parents are like, can we leave the baby here? Why would they leave? And maybe the guy could have just been like, sure, there's a baby drop right over there. There doesn't need to be anything to do with Ellis Island whatsoever. Nothing.

And now he is brought up by Graham Greene. Yes. Oh, I thought that was Jack So from Barney Miller. Oh, no. Oh my God, amazing. So he's brought up by Graham Greene, who has a Native American affectation to his voice set. Correct.

I don't know what's that. But he speaks of our peoples and we believe in 12, whatever, like he speaks with the gravitas of an ancient kind of Native American like spirit. He's a wise, cracking mystic. But meanwhile, Colin Farrell came out with a thick Irish brogue. But now here's my question. I don't think he ever lived above Grant Central because he was raised by Graham Greene. No.

This is what has an adult. I do think I know this because he's saying to her later, he's like, I ran away, the streets were the only home that I really felt comfortable in. And that's when Russell Crowe took him under his wing and he became like a roustabout. Actually, I know what it is. And then because remember when he finds the white horse and he brings the white horse to the guy to say, like, will you board the horse for the night? The guy says, you can't keep living up in the attic.

The guys are looking for you and then there's that shot where he's opening the door in the sky. So it may just be that he was above Grant Central while he was hiding out from Russell Crowe for a short period of time. Well, because also Russell Crowe had no idea where to find him. So if he was living above... It felt very... It was Hugo.

It's basically Hugo. The most interesting part of this movie was I was like, oh, I wonder if there are those panels at the top of Grant Central Station where you can pick your head out like that. Yeah. I thought that was neat. I thought that was neat too. That was a good... I liked the effect of that.

Yes. Now... I'm also putting him in the stars in the sky. Love him. That's where he longs to be in the stars. We're at the beginning of us not understanding what stars mean to this movie. But the movie also opens up with a very long monologue and I wrote like... Like in voiceover.

Yeah. I was like, this VO means nothing. Nope. There is nothing... Don't get anything. It explains absolutely nothing. But it's a long... And then it returns.

So long that you can't get it in. And it ends at the end and similarly... And it also means nothing. It explains nothing. I wrote down the end one because I... Oh, you did? Yeah, I did. The end one is this.

What if the universe loves us all equally so much so that it bends over backwards across the centuries for each one of us? That's one of the lines. What? It tells me nothing? Yeah. And it's too late at that point to try and explain this movie anyway and that's not even an attempt to do it.

So then we're kind of now... We're going back and forth between the past and the present. We are the... The past. Yeah, the past. And... Wait, wait. You mean 19...

1915 or... 1916? Yeah. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. So then we meet up with Colin Farrell who is now running... He's on the run from Russell Crowe's Bad Guys. Bad Guys. Yes.

We're sort of a cartoony version of the pug-uglyse in a way. Yeah. Oh, I agree. Yeah, I agree. And Russell Crowe has some crazy scars on his face and this weird haircut that has like three little... This will come in later. Yes.

Yeah, like stripes in the back of his head. Like he's like a hip-hop in the 80s when they would shave lines on the side of your head. I don't know if you had that. I did. That I thought was very cool. You guys, that was pretty fucking cool. Yeah, come on.

So he finds a horse. So he's running from these bad guys and he sees a horse, a white horse. And he's like on the docks in Red Hook and he's getting away except that he slips on the ice and falls and that gives the bad guys time to scale offense, but then luckily... The bad guys, by the way, have guns, but almost never shoot at him. Oh, no. And Russell Crowe explains, he goes, no, no, no, boys, I want to go slow with the knives. And by the way, when he finally does get to get his comeuppance, he does not do that

at all. He head boxes him. Is that what you're talking about? Yeah. He headbutts him three times and he finally gets to that. That's the strangest fight I've ever seen. It was crazy. Yeah.

So there's magical, well, we don't know what's magical. A horse appears and kneels down to him as if to say, get on my back. And he does... I feel like there are so many people, listeners, I'm going to guess they're all women who read this book that are like, you fucking idiots, you don't get it, you're missing all the good stuff. Listen, it's not called How Did This Get Written, we're not under any obligation to write the book.

Anyway, please listen to our new podcast, How Did This Get Written. We have to put this under the same rules as Mortal Kombat, people got very upset about Mortal Kombat. You don't know the rules. It's like, no, no, no. Hey, guess what? That movie is still terrible. That movie is terrible.

So this scene now, when he gets on this horse, right, as soon as he gets on the horse, Russell Crowe, who is looking forward to killing this guy, then has a line where he goes, he's got the goddamn horse, doing absolutely nothing to prevent him getting the horse. He could have done a lot of things. Like we said, they all have guns, and they're literally an army of like, I would say at least 25 guys, they could have pulled him off the horse and knocked him down. Russell Crowe could have shot at him at this point. At this point, Russell Crowe should be like, oh, you know what, knife plan aborted, just

shoot the fucker. By the way, shoot him in the shoulder, and then you can knife him all day long. Goodbye the man. Shoot him in the shoulder. Thank you, Paul. Shoot him in the shoulder. Guys, aim for the shoulder, everybody. You can still get all the knife play that you want.

Shoot him, but don't kill him. That's something you're allowed to say is against him. Absolutely. Yeah. So now this horse takes off, takes off and jumps very high of over a giant fence. Makes it a totally impossible jump, which now, as there are magical elements in this movie, but Colin Farrell is not aware, Colin Farrell is not aware of magic, right? Yes, he's not.

He's living to him, he's living in a non-magic world. Yes, yes. And yet, he is not stunned, shocked, surprised. Well, this is, he's kind of like, wow, you made that jump. Yeah, this happens quite a jump for a horse. Throughout the movie, throughout the movie, things that are just completely impossible happen and all of the people who have no precedent for this are like, cool, I get it. Like, unfazed by giant magical action, by crazy magic, acts of magic.

And that's a problem. Like, I understand, okay, magic is fine, but you have to have some rules in your magical universe. Like, here's an example. Some rules. Because you can't explain, again, you really can't even explain what, it's good and evil, we get that, but Colin Farrell's not necessarily good. And it's also, the framework is a very understandable storyline.

It's gangster versus gangster, it's like the good gangster versus the bad guys. So I understand the framework of it, but then like, there's this scene where Russell Crowe is with his crony, and he's, Kevin Corrigan, and it's like, we gotta get this guy, we gotta find him, we gotta get him, we gotta, and he's like, well, we look at everywhere, Boston, sorry. And he's like, sometimes the light comes onto the gems, you think I steal these gems, because I want the gems? No, I steal the gems because the light loves the gems, and the gems love the light.

And then he mixes up gems on a table. Like marbles. He's like, the sun shines on them, the sun shines on them, and then he points to a table next door and goes, Yahtzee. My favorite moment, Yahtzee. And then the light from the gems illuminates and creates, like an Indiana Jones in the Raiders of the Lost Ark kind of pen station, or whatever, great pen station, Grand Central rather.

And he's like, Grand Central, that's where he is. Kevin Corrigan never once is like, what the fuck is happening? Kevin Corrigan at that point should lose his fucking mind. And he's like, okay, boss, I'll run up the guys, we're going to Grand Central. So you're some sort of magic demon guy, right? Because that's shit I've never seen before. But by the way, you could argue in this movie, because everything is so not defined, that Kevin Corrigan could have also been a demon.

We don't know. I don't think so. I don't think so. Maybe. But I feel like it's like. So is he the only demon? I think so. Oh, wow.

No, for that territory. Okay. Remember, you are the demon for the five boroughs in the greater Tri-State area. By the way, I wonder if that's historically accurate. Well, all five boroughs consolidate into the city in 1916, we're going to have to find out. We've got to get it in there. We've got to get it in there.

Like, I was confused, well, I was also confused, hey, there's so many things about this. I was confused about where Russell Crowe worked, what his front was, because in both worlds, they walk through this, like, very. In one world, it's chalkboards, in the next world, it's computer screens. I was like, fuck you. And it was so, and it was like, but it looked like they were like, I think in the first one, it was like toys, too, so I didn't, like. Really?

Oh, I noticed they had those. It was all chalkboards. They were like, what black market thing, like gold, whatever, black market, nonce, like crime, generalize, everything is so generalized in this. It's like, they are generalized crime bad guys, you know? Now this scene, we've seen Russell Crowe in the horse scene, and about halfway through this hologram scene is when I first went, oh, is he trying to do an Irish accent? I think, I thought so, too, because in his first scene, I thought he was just doing his

regular Australian accent. But then I realized later he was trying to do an Irish accent. And by the way, he is really, I mean, Jason's performance of the gem's speech was about a three. I mean, he's coming in hot at a ten. He's really chewing this up. It's big. It is a big.

Was there a time that Russell Crowe could, like, act, and he forgot? There was, right? I think so. He was great. He was good in LA Confidential, right? Right in LA Confidential. Yeah, he was totally good in the gladiator, right? Yeah, beautiful mind.

He was good. He's done a lot of good things. Something happened on that Les Mis thing. Oh, no. Earlier than that. He became some sort of unhinged monster about seven years ago. He's got Marlon Brando disease, which is like. Oh, my God, I didn't know.

Oh, no. Oh, my God. No. Oh, gosh. It's so sad. Now I feel terrible that we're making fun of him. I didn't know he has MBD. Yeah, he has MBD.

He has MBD. Full blown. Oh, no. He's full blown. MBD. Full blown. That's not looking good. He's going to make a lot of bad choices for the rest of his career.

Terry Gilliam is psyched. But that's kind of the energy that he gives off. Marlon Brando, I think at a certain point, this is like, oh, no, I'm a great actor. So I'm going to play this character super gay, and I'm going to, so much so that it's an offensive stereotype. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm Marlon Brando, and I feel like, he's like, yeah, this works. Yeah.

Like it just seems like, yeah, that's not that. I can sing Les Mis. Oh, my God. I should be in Les Mis, right? You know what, I think I actually can't take him seriously any more after that, to be honest. That he thought to himself, I'm a singer. I sing with 30 odd foot of grunt. Yeah.

I believe that's the name of his band. You're right. It is. I can pull this off and yeah. Yeah, because really, I mean, look at this. He has good movies. It's LA Covenantial, Master and Commander. Earlier, too.

Like the Australian movies were good, so like, Romper Stumper is great. Like those movies, too. Return to Yuma. Come on. His brain broke. Yeah. Sorry. So he's doing an Irish action.

What we have yet to introduce, because it's already confusing enough, is the other main character of most of this movie, which is Lady Sybil. Yes. From Downton Abbey. From Downton Abbey. Who I think, I would argue, you give her the best performance of the movie. Without a doubt. Yeah.

Does amazing work with terrible lines. She has given horrible lines and just fucking sells the shit out of it. I was in love. I love Lady Sybil. Yes, me too. With all of my heart. I thought she was awesome in this movie, even though she's meant to be like fevery and dying. Yes.

And in that first scene, she's pretty spacey. And so I was like, what's going on? But then she explained she's dying of fever. You mean she was like Kevin Spacey? She was very much like Kevin Spacey. She was very house of cards. One interesting thing, they go out of their way to explain why she has a British accent, which only makes Colin Farrell's Irish accent more clever.

They should never have commented on it at all. Why not just hire a British actor to play the William Hurt part? You know, like I couldn't figure that out. They got William Hurt on the hook. I guess. They've got an American father and she was raised in London. It was very... Now, this is also one of those examples where magic is happening and no one reacts.

The eye doctor comes over to check her out for old fashioned eyeglasses, which is whatever. She's supposedly dying any day now, but might as well be able to read a little better. And I love, by the way, I do want to see... And by the way, she never wears those glasses. She never wears those glasses. Never wears them. Glasses are never even produced. Yeah.

They're never... They are just... It is just a device in order to get her talking about the light. And then all of a sudden the light comes into the room and then like illuminates everything. And this is one of many scenes that could go, we don't need it. Yes. No, we definitely don't need it. And also confusing to me as an audience member, going, am I the audience and her seeing this

or is the eye doctor and the father seeing this as well? No, they are not seeing it. They're not seeing the light. But what she's explaining is how, because of the fever allows her to see the kind of lights that everybody can't see, blah, blah, blah. But that would now make sense, but there's other parts of the movie where everyone sees the lights being crazy. Yes.

So I'll add lights to miracles and stars as like sort of supernatural elements that are under-explained. Yes. Yes. Very confusing. And some people can see them sometimes, and some people can't see them sometimes. Yep. It's a very...

It is very broken. Like frozen has an easier to follow mythology. I get frozen 100%. There's not even a hesitation on that. There isn't even any... Super confusing. No question as to how that snowman came to life. But I get it.

I don't question how this snowman comes to life or why Elsa has snow powers or whatever. What we haven't even talked about the fact is you brought up early that the horse is actually a dog posing as a horse. For what fucking reason? No idea. No idea. And the horse... I will say the scenes between Colin Farrell and this horse are amazing, and whenever

they cut to a close-up of the horse, I laughed out loud. You could argue that a sad horse face... That the movie is a love story between a man and a horse. And when he's on that horse, he's going like, oh, horse, horse. Why does he call it a horse? He never bought us to name this horse. Never names it. Never names it.

Come on, horse. Come on, horse. Let's go, horse. Let's go so much so that he'll point him in the right direction. And the horse is the horse god? No, the horse is a guardian angel. Okay, guardian angel. Yeah, the horse is a guardian angel.

That's what they explain at a strong point. So Lady Sybil is dying of consumption. William Hurt is her newspaper magnate father. She lives in a... Because she's feverish, she lives in a roof room where it's cold to keep her temperature down. Her younger sister, the younger sister's afraid she's going to die. Now hold on to this idea of the younger sister because it's going to come back.

You know what? Or don't. We'll try and explain it later. So then... Okay, so then they all leave. Yes. They all leave except for Lady Sybil. Oh, go ahead.

We've got to talk about... Oh, yes. The family leaves except for Lady Sybil, and while Colin Farrell is trying to leave town, but the horse won't leave in front of Lady Sybil's house, and Colin Farrell, who's a thief, is like, okay, fine, one more job, and then we're leaving town. So Colin Farrell gets out of his crap book. And by the way, this is another time when he's not shocked that the horse is insisting that he rob this particular house, and he's just like, okay.

And the horse... And the horse doesn't speak. That's kind of a big deal when a horse is making it clear to you that you need to rob a house. By the way, the horse, which is his guardian angel, is now an accomplice to multiple robbers. Yes. Yeah, that's a good point. And by the way, to talk to your point about him being virtuous, he's not...

Because he quits working for Russell Crowe, but it's undetermined really why, because he continues to be a thief, so much so that he has a horse full of trinkets as you hear as a clunky-clunky-clunk in the horse moves around. The big point of contention between Russell Crowe and Colin Farrell is that Colin Farrell wanted to steal rings without cutting off fingers. Oh, right. That was it. Yes.

That Russell Crowe loved, craved the violence and the bloodlust, and Colin Farrell wasn't comfortable with that anymore because he was such a good thief. Anyway. Colin Farrell breaks into Lady Sibble's house while Lady Sibble is in a very bizarre, erotic bath. Yes. A giant bath in New York City. That loved that bathtub-sits.

Beautiful. Beautiful. And so then, suddenly, next thing you know, she's feverish and playing Brahms, and they have what I will describe as one of the only meat-cutes I've ever seen that begins with a home invasion. Oh, yeah. It is as if Funny Games was a romantic comedy. It was so...

He's holding a gun. He's holding a gun. He's tracking her father's safe, and a floor squeaks, and she's like, hello, and he's like, the floor squeaked. And she's like, I guess it did. I guess I should offer you a cup of tea. This scene, this scene, I only wish we could have our hands on this movie because this scene is the best, is the best.

The tea scene. No. It's the scene where they meet. The scene where they meet into the tea scene, and the whole, it's awkward, it's bizarre. It's crazy. It's so weird. It's plain. She's like really into him.

Yeah, immediately they are in love with each other. Yes. He is a threat to her. She should be, he has a gun, and he is in her house. And she's wearing like a somewhat transparent nightgown, which in 1916 to entertain a man in that outfit. Yeah. But she's feverish.

That's the question. How much of her behavior is down to this fever, we don't know. Well, she doesn't seem to be affected by the fever. She just seems to be literally hot. Like that is how her fever manifests. Yes. It's just in temperature, not in, oh, I'm delusional, and she's never seems to be delusional. Not only that, I meant to look up consumption and find out if imperviousness to cold is

one of the symptoms because she's constantly walking around outside wearing nothing. Yeah. Well, that's their whole thing. It's like we have to lower her temperature. And by the way, William Hurd is like, we have a fever in the house. Yeah. And that's all the windows are open. Everyone's wearing their jackets.

So then they have this conversation where they have tea, and this is where she explains that she's from London, and they are falling for each other. Again, he came to rob the house, and he's very upfront about that. But now he's enjoying some lapsing Sushong. Yeah. Yeah. And then she says, I'm dying of consumption, and I've never been kissed on the mouth. And then she bring up that she's never danced before, too.

She doesn't. She just says she's never been kissed on the mouth. And then she's like, I don't know why I just said that, blah, blah, blah. And he's like, well, listen, I'm on the lamb. Some guys are trying to kill me. I got to get out of town, but maybe when I'm back, and she goes, oh, by the time you get back, I'll already be dead. Yes.

And the music. So matter of fact. The music swells under that moment like it's a romantic moment. She's like, not quite. And that's one of many scenes, and I think that this is one of the challenges of turning a novel into a movie that actually could have taken place anywhere. Like there's a lot of scenes like that, the fireside chat, the walk in the woods. Oh, yeah.

Why'd you put it there? Yeah, it looked pretty. Yeah. We had the house. So meanwhile, Russell Crowe is upset. He is very upset, which means it's time to eat oysters and keep them coming. Oh, yeah. That is.

And up the accent, up the dialect work by 25%. Oh, yeah. That scene. This is where I wrote, Russell's accent is all over the place. Yes. Because I think it's because he's a little drunk in this scene, maybe. Maybe. The character is.

He's played upon plate of oysters, just sucking him with his gang. And they're at a table that is like the head table at a wedding, but at a restaurant. It's like a long table that's facing all the other tables at the restaurant behind a fire. You would never sit there. You would never, you would never have a table like that. It's like Game of Thrones table. Like he's at the center.

Yes. It's the red wedding. It's like, yeah, it is. It's so weird. And this is my favorite scene where he's upset. He can't figure out where he is. And then he immediately, he gets mad at the waiter. Why?

Oh, oh, because wait, he doesn't have a South African spotted owl. He says, he says, will there be anything else, sir? And Russell Crow goes, oh yeah, I'd like a South African spotted owl. Flee. Flee. Braise a little bit of salt and pepper. Yeah, exactly. And a little bit of parsley on top.

And he's like, I'm sorry, sir, we don't have any owl. And like in one fell swoop, he partly morphs into a bit of a monster, not just Jim Crack's revealing monster skin underneath. It was crazy. His teeth get kind of crazy, right? But nobody sees that. Well, do they? I don't think anybody sees it because nobody reacts.

Well, it's unclear whether his stuages have seen this before and they just accept, yeah, sometimes he kind of half turns into a monster. I have to go with it. Well, I think that they have to react because he kills the waiter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He breaks the waiter's head, right? No, he slashes his throat with a knife. Oh, I'm sorry.

Wow. I think he slashes his throat with a knife. Okay, yeah. And then uses his blood. He's a little bit of blood on the table. And then he is overtaken by a premonition, a vision. And he takes the blood and he smears his fingers in it. And does the most crude drawing.

The most, if you were to describe it, it was almost like the ying and yang sign, like a red. Barely. Where the white is, and that's it, and then there's a little bit of a circle. It's a very, nothing drawing. And he goes, he goes, he goes, he goes, find the red-haired girl. And Kevin Corrigan's like, what red-haired girl? What are you talking about?

He goes, there, this red-haired girl. That circle of blood. And he's pointing at the blood spot on the tablecloth. Like there, find her. So that seems unreasonable until the next scene when somebody using that drawing finds the red-headed girl. Find her, there's no even search, he seems to be outside out of her house going, oh, yeah, there she is.

I think all of the Stooges and Lackeys got copies of the blood smear. Oh, they definitely did. He doesn't have the original. No, no, that actually looked like someone's that I'm duping, yes. So he's like, quick, get this tablecloth, recreate this blood smudge, like, I don't know, a hundred times for all our guys? Find the red-headed girl in New York City, not even in a small town. In New York City, at the height where there were a lot of people there.

And again, is this another example of the magic of this universe or just stupid filmmaking? I think it's stupid because the next minute, lady civil is trying to leave, she's leaving her house to go north to meet her family, and the driver is the one that notices her, she has red hair, and then he pulls a full, he pulls like a 20 by 14 piece of paper out of his pocket that is the drawing of the blood smear. And then he's like, oh, I got to tell the boys. And then all she does is she goes inside, comes back outside with a couple more suitcases, and Russell Crowe and his men are already, there are no phones, they're already there.

Well, maybe he has like a demon, an old demon phone or something. Maybe, I don't know. Maybe he did it, I think, with the marbles again. But yeah, why couldn't he do the marble thing with the red-headed girl? I don't know. Because that would make sense too, right? But then it makes it very clear that Russell Crowe has paid off her original driver, a sum that he has felt is to retire on, and they're going to take this girl.

Now you think, all right, now the purpose of taking this girl is to get Colin Farrell or is it to kill her? He's going to kill her, ensuring that Colin Farrell cannot perform his miracle. Got it. Because he assumes. Because this is starting to make sense. Yeah, Russell Crowe assumes that. If he doesn't create his miracle, then he doesn't give one point to the good guys.

Correct. That's, the whole movie is based on this very small thing. It doesn't help. Oh, okay. So she's dying of consumption. Russell Crowe figures that Colin Farrell's about to use his miracle to save her. To save her. To save her.

So if he kills her, he can't use his miracle and that's in some way good for a demon. That's good for the bad. And am I right or wrong in assuming, was this part of the narration at the top, just thinking about something different, where it's like, you never know who you're going to save, will they become the president, will they become this, will they become the president? He says that in that scene, I think. Yeah. Like something like that.

Who are you supposed to be? Oh, no, he says that later when they're having that little horse dance by the Brooklyn Bridge. Oh, right. Who is she going to be? The Pope? Whatever. The Pope. Yeah.

So grandmother of the first man on Mars? Yes. Amazing. Amazing one. By the way, that's one of my favorite scenes of the movie, too. The horse head to head fights, like it's two horses walking, like being a horse intimidation scene. Yes.

I mean, that's basically it, like, he needs, so what if this woman was to have the president that does something amazing, the mother of the president that does something amazing. That's why he needs to kill her. No, no, no. He just wants to kill her. He only wants to kill her to prevent. But that's something to prevent the miracle, because the miracle could have giant consequences. It could, but it also could be, which he says also to him, he says, or is it true love?

Or is it something? Oh, so just true love? It could also be just, like, this true love. This guy's got to work hard in this, in the city. Yeah. Yeah. So Russell Crowe spends, Russell Crowe spends, I mean, a very long time explaining to Lady Sybil what's up for no reason, while, meanwhile.

One of, maybe I would say four to five times in the film, where someone takes a break to basically give about two pages up. Oh, dude, yeah. Do not get me started on the library scene. Oh. Oh. The library scene was the craziest scene in a movie I've seen. In a very long time.

In my opinion, that whole part of the movie took place after the movie. Yes. That was a separate movie. I thought that that library scene. You want Jennifer Connelly's in it? It's madness. It's a whole different movie. Well, I thought that library scene was like, reshoot central.

Like, oh fuck, we don't, no one knows what's going on. Can we have a movie? This doesn't make any sense. Did you? I got an idea. And it's just like. Come in there and explain the movie really quickly. And Connelly, Connelly was like, I just have three pages of a monologue in a row that is

just describing the movie we're in. He is something. Oh my God. That scene, that was a cackling, that scene was, it made, anyway. So Russell Crowe, his intention is to kill her. He spent so much time talking that Colin Farrell has time enough to both talk through his love troubles with Graham Greene. Yes.

And also. And by the way, he's also eating clams in the dock too. Weirdly. In Brooklyn. And also ride his horse all the way to the Upper West Side where Lady Sybil is. All during one conversation between, anyway. So Russell Crowe finally has the knife out and Colin Farrell rides by on the horse. Nobody stops him.

Nobody shoots at him. Nobody's like, hey look, it's him on the horse. He just grabs Lady Sybil and they jump away. Well Russell Crowe sees him approaching on the white horse which he knows is a magical horse coming toward them and he doesn't act any faster. He doesn't stab. He doesn't do what he is. This guy has a slow reaction time.

He doesn't stab her. He doesn't attack him. He doesn't attack him. His belly is full of oysters. He can't move that. Right. And he seems totally surprised when he snatches her up and they take off and he goes, rawr. I saw it coming.

This brings us to... This is the horse battle that happens here, right? No. That's later. We're about to meet our surprise guest. The judge. Oh yes. Yes.

Was really the most extraordinary scene in the film, I think. Yes. Russell Crowe goes to meet with the judge. He has an appointment and the judge lives under the Brooklyn Bridge. I think this judge is Satan. Yes. He's Lucifer. Well his name is Lou.

So... He calls him Lucifer. Does he call him Lou? Oh, I thought he called him Lou. He calls him Lucifer a couple of times. Okay. He might also call him Lou. And at first when he walks in, you're like, what do you want?

No. First when he walks in, there is an old man with a stitched up mouth. Oh, I forgot about that guy. Yeah. Okay. The guy that answers the door is... The door opens and it's like Alfred from Batman, only his mouth is all stitched up in a gross way.

Oh my God. That was amazing. Yeah. And then when he walks in, he's like, what do you want, what do you want me? And then all of a sudden, a very small little light comes on, and there's Will Smith sitting on a chaise lounge reading a book. That was a little like a little clever reversal that just didn't work. Yeah.

Click. What's going on? Like, hang on, I don't understand. Why is his voice scary in the dark? All the accents are all over the place. Everybody's crazy, but I do believe Russell Crowe or Con Farrell or Lady Sybil. I do believe they are all period-appropriate. Yes.

Will Smith is incapable of not sounding and acting contemporary. So there's a lot... I want to try to figure out what happened behind the scenes. My first theory was that Will Smith shows up to play Lucifer in 1916, and he has a very today hairstyle, and somebody said to him, can we cut your hair? And he said, fuck that. And they said, okay, well then let's go with it and put a Jimi Hendrix t-shirt on him and give him earrings and just say that he exists out of time.

Yeah, because he has that whole monologue where he says, now you ask me for now? You don't understand time, and his voice is getting deeper and bassier and weirder. You don't understand someone like you doesn't, in the blink of an eye, thousands of years. But I was still like, wait, but you sound too contemporary. But that's how they put him in the Jimi Hendrix shirt, because he is of now. Wait, was he in the Jimi Hendrix shirt in the first one? Yeah. He's wearing a Jimi Hendrix t-shirt in 1916.

Yeah. Yeah. So he put a verse through time. I didn't notice that. But they only noticed it later. I'm now confusing elements of the stuff that I've just watched in True Detective, because there's a time element now in that. Oh, really?

And so now I gotta remember which was which. But my second theory, once he pops up again in 2014 later in the movie, is that maybe they shot that scene first and they were like, okay, time to change you over to 1916, and he was like, I don't think so. I just, I need to get home. I gotta pick up Jaden. I gotta get out. I gotta go.

It's this or nothing. It's this or nothing. I'm Satan. What difference does it make? Yeah. It is odd that he does not. He's in the same wardrobe in 2014 as he was in 2016. Yeah.

It's one day. It was one day. And everything. It's like Bruce Willis in Expendables 2. Well, it's like Marlon Brando in Heat. Oh, yeah. Right. You know?

His special effect is, not special effect or whatever, but like, is just he turns on and off like light bulbs with his string. Yeah. Like he lives in a dark room and he just, like. Well. Turns on an Edison bulb with his. That's when he's being a judge, too. Yeah.

Like he's like, well, all right. He's like, you know, obviously, Russell Crowe's like, I need to get up to the lake of the Coheres to kill this woman. And he's like, well, do you want a judgment? All right. I'll walk over here to this judge stand. To this rear railing he has. And it turns on the light and then he's able to judge him in this moment.

Yeah. They have their conversation. He lets him go. He denies him. Oh, he denies him. He denies him. Yes, he denies him. I think the design of Satan's office space was a bit of a punt.

Oh, yes. Just kind of like a stark back cave. It was like, there's water around it and a chaise lounge and that was it. Yeah. It was just a point. Yeah. This is also the scene where Russell Crowe's character, a 1916 gangster, tells us shit happens.

Shit happens? Yeah. Well, that was the thing. I wrote down shit happens because shit happens means that he's contemporary, too. I don't know. That shit happens is not a 1916 phrase. It was not at all. So maybe they're all wearing like Jimi Hendrix t-shirts, but he and Russell Crowe's undercover

in 1916? I don't think so. I think that's just bad writing. Or an improvise moment. Yeah, it did feel a little improvised because it felt like there was a little bit of a wink. Yeah. I'm having fun now.

So now Lady Sibyl and Colin Frel have gotten away on Pegasus. And they're in Lake of the Coheres. Yeah, they're up in this beautiful place where the... Super thick ice. Very thick. But not thick enough that a girl with tuberculosis could melt the snow with her. At any point, just wherever she's walking is just becoming a puddle. Yeah, it becomes melt.

She's so hot that she melts through everything. Yeah. Anyway, so, okay. So William Hurt is basically like, okay, you rode up on a... Oh, by the way, I just want to bring this up. The Will Smith character is not in the book. What? What's happening?

No! Yeah. Wow. How do you even introduce this? That's what I'm saying about this. What was this point? Like, because they didn't know they had Will Smith, like why did they introduce this character to do what?

Make Will Smith the William Hurt character if you want to give him a cameo as a father and make it even more confusing. It feels like they were like, yeah, it's hard to turn a novel into a movie. Let's make it a lot harder by introducing nonsensical elements. Yeah. Well, we've got a demon. Maybe what we need... You know what we need?

We need the demon to have a boss. Right? Oh my gosh. So they write up to us, William Hurt, Colin Farrell has basically abducted this girl, ridden on a horse all the way up the river. To her parents' country estate. To her parents' country estate, and they are like, they are not phased at all. Nope, not at all.

Not at all. Who's not phased? William Hurt. Right, right. William Hurt's basically like, what are your intentions with my daughter? Not like, who the fuck are you? That's another great scene, he's like, what are your intentions? What do you do?

Who are you? Where do you come from? Who made your suit? And he's like, I'm over here. I did this. My suit's over this. It was like a weird... That's a hell of a scene.

William Hurt is really robotic in that scene. And that's also the scene where we have the long conversation about whether it's Filet or Fillet. Oh, yes. And I am confused. Claire or Clarence. And then that was like, to me, I was like, well, okay, is he... What is the power play of this?

He's like, he's saying, I say it's Fillet, so it is Fillet, or is he saying, I'm testing because you're too poor to know how rich I am? Like, I didn't quite understand what... I will say this for sure, the actors did not know any better than you do what the point of that dialogue was. Yeah, I agree. They didn't settle on it. I really feel like there's a lot of favors called in, and it was like, trust me, this

is when we put this together in editing. It's kind of... The book was huge. Yeah. And then there is the furnace scene. Another scene that could just go and have no impact on the movie at all, just take it out. By the way, I like...

Yeah, well, because again... It must have been a huge part of the book in order for them to keep it. Well, the whole thing in this movie is that Colin Farrell, while not being a good guy... I just had a realization, by the way. This movie is Harry Potter. Colin Farrell is Harry. He's an orphan. He's an orphan.

He's raised by people who aren't his parents. He is the chosen one who can save the lives of everybody kind of. He's like the chosen one, but he has to go off to this estate in order to realize the true extent of his powers, so this estate is basically Hogwarts. I'm telling you, this movie is Harry Potter. This movie is Harry Potter! I feel like the only reason why the furnace scene is in there is to do the microfiche scene, because he sets up early on.

He's like, I'm good with... He says he always wanted to be a mechanic. He says to her at some point. Yeah, for no reason. I don't need... I'm good with it. He knows machines, and by just touching them... I'm guessing in the book...

His magical power was machine stuff. I thought that this fire in the furnace was one thing that the powers of hell could do in this sacred area. I thought maybe that sort of thing was going like that, but it doesn't get paid off. By the way, I also was confused. That was a giant mansion, but they were treating it like it was the engine of a giant ship that was going to explode. Did houses explode from furnaces?

Probably. It was like a steam furnace. But the idea of somebody saying, if my house is going to burn down, I'm going to burn down with it is so absurd. Yeah, and him saying, my wife built this house. My wife put out every window dressing. Every pillow. Therefore, I'm going to burn alive in it.

So Colin Farrell comes in, saves the day with the furnace, William Hurt gives him a big hug, and then Colin Farrell is up, sketching the red-haired girl. Yes, Colin Farrell is also doing the same drawing. The same drawing that Russell Crowe did. By the way, guys, we are not even into the same... I know. I don't... We can jump ahead at any point.

No, but no, but yeah. But at this point, I really do want to figure this out, because he and Lady Sybil have a real romance. They go for a walk in the cold. He teaches her how to, like... They dance. He teaches her how to control her breathing, so she doesn't get so hot. They go to a New Year's Eve dance.

And then they fuck. Now my question is this. I had a question. Was his... This is going to sound... Well, vulgar. Who cares? Was his dick too warm?

Like, did he kill her? No. He was poisoned by the angel. Oh, right, right. Of course. I'm sorry. Wait a second. What?

Hold on. Okay, this is a June moment. That was a June moment. I did. I forgot about the poisoning. I forgot about the poisoning. In your mind, you were like, his dick was so hot, he exacerbated her fever. I did think so.

I did. Because I thought for the... Because this is what I thought. Now, I remember why I thought that. Because I thought that the devil, it was like more of like a Romeo and Juliet thing. I thought that they put that stuff in her glass and she was going to appear to be dead or something like that. Oh, I see.

Because I kind of missed when he was having that deal with it. No. The way that the poison worked that she was poisoned with is it will only kill you if you get excited. Oh. That's what he examines in Bryant Park. I think it was Bryant Park. Yeah.

That's what he said. He's like, don't worry. It'll only kill her if she gets excited or something. You have to get pretty excited to get... Oh, I didn't even catch that. Which is weird. Okay. So, Russell Crowe is hoping that she would have a beautiful night out dancing and...

Yes. Just give her a poison that'll kill her regardless. Because it's a special angel poison. Why did the angel do that and why is the angel a catered waiter? He's a fallen angel. He's a fallen angel. He's a fallen angel. No, I thought he was a...

A former angel. A demon who became an angel. No. An angel who became human. An angel who became human. Oh, okay. Got it. So, he had the special crystals.

Okay. This is where I have a... And the crystals were also magic. They were magic crystals. They were not like... What crystals? He put that thing in her glass. That was the poison.

That's the poison. Oh, it was magic. It had a lot of special light. It wasn't just like... It was like rat poison. So, that poison... Which could've... He could've done easily.

Yes, easily. The poison plus getting fucked will kill you. Yes. I guess so. But here's my question. And this is a very important question that I need to know the answer to. Is consumption contagious? No, she says it's not.

She says it's not early on. She did? Yes. She did when she needed that. She said, don't worry, it's not contagious. Okay, okay, good. And because I know because my daughter died of it too, that's the eye doctor. Oh.

Or sister. How is it not contagious? I don't know. I couldn't figure that out because I was like, I get it. You're in love with this girl, but like, you're gonna get consumption, bro. He didn't care. He was in love with her. Where is he gonna go?

All right, so she is dead. She's dead. He can't use his miracles to save her from consumption. She's dead. He tries to. He brings her to the princess bed. The little girl. The little girl should.

Oh, Lady Sybil has a little sister. Yeah. Who is a little bit like all over the place. All over. Oh, guys, by the way, I just typed in consumption. It is a potentially fatal and contagious disease. Thank you. Maybe they didn't know that in 1916.

I guess they, how did they explain to themselves how each other are getting it? If it's not contagious, if it's disease and not contagious, how can somebody else have it? Who knows? Only one person would have it. That's a big, that's a big get there too. I mean, that's like to have a disease in a movie where like it's not contagious. By the way, all she does is like handle her younger sister, who's probably now gonna die.

Oh, well, no, she's not. She says two things. She says, she says it's not contagious and I've been locked in this house. I can't see anybody. I can't talk to anybody. I can't kiss anybody. Yeah. So it doesn't make any sense.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay. Sure, she dies and you think he takes, oh, the little girl, Willa, the sister has made a princess bed so that when she dies, she realized, she says to Colin Farrell, when she dies, bring her here and kiss her and that's the, you will bring her back to life or something, whatever. Right. And so she dies after he bones her.

Yes. He bones her to death. Bones her to death because the dick is too hot. His hot dick kills her. His hot dick. Tips her temperature over the air. He takes her temperature with his manometer and she overheats, deadsville. He carries her down to the princess bed.

He kisses her and she doesn't wake up and then she is put in the ground quickly. Very quickly. Yep, buried. Now we finally, now I guess during all this time, there was a lot of time to get her buried and everything, Colin Farrell, I guess like, I guess that's the time that it takes before Russell Crowe, because he can't, Russell Crowe can't leave New York. So then Colin Farrell's like, well, I guess I'll go back to New York now. Well, this is what cemetery is in New York.

But what's interesting here is, at this point, I have now forgotten about the horse slash dog. Yes. And he says- By the way, the horse never turns into a dog. If you're listening, it's never become a dog. Oh, you never see that. It's just a horse.

They just call it a dog. Yeah. Because it's the dog of the West. It's a horse, but we understand it's a dog. But it sometimes appears as a horse. It only, to us, only as a horse. Correct. But this whole time that the two of them have been up at this country house, which they

got to by way of horse, the horse has apparently been back at Grand Central Station. At some point- At some point, that is true. You're right. The horse has been hanging out of prison. Well, the horse can fly and they can do magical stuff, so yeah, I'm sure. But why not stick with them? I don't know.

But regardless- Okay, I have a real question, though, and this is a very real question. So can we, let's do, I'm just going to jump through a couple of things. She dies, Colin Farrell comes back to New York and is like, fuck it, I'm here. Get ready. Russell Crowe is like, he's back, I'm going to go get him. So Russell Crowe comes to kill Colin Farrell. Colin Farrell turns the horse, loses it and is like, get out of here, horse.

I don't know why. The horse flies away. He doesn't get on it and fly away with it, don't know why. No, he should have gotten on it and flown away. Should have gotten 100% gotten on the horse. Maybe he's suicidal at that point. By the way, I did love this moment because they use a, I forget, like a bolo or it's like one of those whips with like balls on the end of it, and they quickly knock that

horse out. There's some CGI with that horse. Yeah, that was pretty good. That horse was very talented. So then, okay, so then Russell Crowe and Colin Farrell have a fight on the bridge. And you were thinking, because he does say in the beginning, I'm going to take my time, I'm going to kill this guy right. He is driven to kill him, first of all, definitely make sure he dies, and secondly, to relish

it and make it painful. These are two things we understand about this. Again, this is 19, it's now 1917, probably. Yes, and then he just headbutts him to death. Not even death, just headbutts him like, poof, poof, poof, poof, poof, and then pushes him over the edge of the Brooklyn Bridge. Now this is where I have a giant question come through. Oh, you do?

Yes. Oh, I don't know why you would. I don't understand why you would have a question here. Okay, go ahead, Paul. So he falls off the bridge, he gets in the water, and he is, now there's a part in the, this is where I'm confused. We led to believe that he immediately pops up from the water. No one checks in to see if he's dead or drowned, because he shouldn't have been dead.

He just kind of fell off a bridge and got his head hit a couple of times. And well, I think they think he's dead. They think he's dead. I think for sure, Russell Crowe and his crew are like, and handle. Now we know because we've seen a movie before that he's going to pop up out of the water. Exactly. And by the way, Russell Crowe has never seen a movie. But by the way, stay there for two more minutes and just go, well, this was watched.

But I think I'm going to cut, I think I might cut in front of you. He doesn't crawl out of the water until 2014. No, that's my thing. He crawls out in 1916, he's alive for a hundred years with no memory. Yes. He's alive for a hundred years? Yes, this is super confusing. Oh wait, I thought he crawled out.

Oh wait, I thought he crawled out. Yes, in 1918, 2014. No, that's what I thought too, and then today I realized he was in New York drawing on the sidewalk for a hundred years. I think it, is it a, yeah, it's an, yeah, it's a hundred years. It is a hundred years. I know that, but he has no memory. The fall from the bridge gives him amnesia.

Correct. And he is also immortal for reasons that I'm not sure about. And also then, but this is the question, why isn't Russell Crowe ever bumping into him in the streets of New York? Russell Crowe doesn't, wait, I have a problem with this. Okay. Go ahead. Well, Russell Crowe doesn't realize he's still alive because he doesn't know who he is.

Until Colin Farrell realizes who he is. The minute Colin Farrell writes, that's it, it makes sense. The minute Colin Farrell writes Peter Lake, question mark on the mirror. That was the best moment of the, question mark, he wrote it, he wrote his own question mark. That's when Russell Crowe is like, wait a minute. Russell Crowe in another part of the city, he suddenly goes, oh shit, he's alive, which is triggered by him realizing he's alive. But by the way, but by the way, wait, wait, wait, but see if he's writing Peter Lake question

mark are his spidey sense tingles, but when he's hiding in Grand Central, he needs to move things around like he needs to move gemstones. It's weird. Even Russell Crowe's ability to be checked, I think Russell Crowe is tuned into his existence but can't pinpoint it unless he's got his gems. I don't know, man. But this is very important. We have, for 100 years in New York, a person walking around, living some place, eating

himself. By the way, I'm just looking on the Wikipedia page. You are? Yes, it says, he miraculously survives but wanders around the city with amnesia for a century. But wait a second. Drawing chalk art of a red-headed girl. Feeding himself.

Clothing himself. Living somewhere. How? Never aging. Not questioning it. Not questioning it. And at some point, a little girl says to him, what's your name? And he just very matter-of-factly says, I don't know.

That's 100 years. That's 100 years. That's 100 years. For 100 years, he didn't even- For 100 years, he didn't even- He didn't even choose, like, oh, everybody calls me buddy. Yeah. Yeah.

That is what it would be. Yeah, I'm like, what? He makes no friends. Okay. See that? I have real problems with this now. I have real fucking problems with this now. It's a serious problem.

Because I was on board for the magical realism of folly. And the water in 1916- And that's what I thought it goes up. Come out in 2014. And that's what I thought. And that's how I saw it last night. You preferred that. Because it made sense.

Makes a little more sense. It makes like a time continuum. Well, we would still be sitting here going, what was he doing under the water for 100 years? Sure. Well, maybe he fell through a time portal in the falling down. Okay. Either way, I would have bought that more than the pragmatic, practical, legitimate concerns

of an amnesiac living in New York City for a century. But he clearly- And never aging. Never aging. And never having friends. But how does he make some living? But how does he make some living? But he has an apartment because you see that one scene where he kind of goes into the closet

and gets out of jacket. Yep. He affords the apartment based on coins that people throw at him because he keeps drawing this red one. That can't be it. That can't be it. That can't be it. His drawings are really good though.

And there's a lot of ways to get along cheaply in New York. And by the way, is that what he was doing in 1923? Yes. Like, what the fuck are we talking? He's lived through the depression. But again- He's lived through- Did he serve in World War II?

World War II? Did he serve in Vietnam? What? I mean, like, that's the- is that another part of the book that he's cut out- How is he eating? How is he- How did he function in the world? But again, and we'll say-

He has no ID. Right, no ID. And when he gets to the library and they're like, sure, if you want to look at the micro, if he's got to use an ID. This is the first time it's been a problem for a hundred years. He's like, oh boy, well, I guess I'm fucked here. Like, really bro? It really broke.

It's never come up before. A hundred years you haven't had ID. His life was simple. He lived in a great high-rise apartment and drew on the street. That was it. I need somebody who read this book to write the fucking on the forums and explain this pile of garbage moment right here. By the way, I'm sure the book is amazing.

As a matter of fact, I remember that someone- I'm going to read you a thing that Kiva Goldsmith says, or Goldman says, but okay. This is the screenwriter. This is the screenwriter. And director. Who has proven himself competent in other films. Yes. He does say that the movie is kind of unfilmable.

That's why he took out 300 pages. Whoa! So 300 pages of that book is not accounted for in this film. Oh, I want a movie. Can we make a movie that is just those 300 pages? When someone asked him, are you the right man to direct this film, he goes, this is an amazing answer. I'm the kind of romantic that likes to find the meaning in things.

Just in its natural course, life is sufficiently hard. And if you can find the hope underneath that, there's the connectedness. And for some reason then, that's comfort. That's what I've learned. And I think that's the feeling in this movie. Okay. Was that then used as the ending narration? This makes no sense either.

Let me paraphrase that. Will you give me the question? Are you the right man to direct this film? I think he basically said, I'm the guy that they made the check out to. I took their money. Okay. Now I have another huge, huge problem. So when Conferral starts to have a tinkling, an inkling rather, of who he might be, he

remembers the Grand Central Station of it all. And so the first thing he does, which is now we've cut up to the first scene we saw, which is that he goes into that attic area of Grand Central Station, he moves aside the board and he finds the box. And the box has in it, his baby blanket, the little ship thing, the city of justice, and it is brought to you, it is brought to light so much as if it has a lot of significant things. Well, it does.

Okay. But in that box, in that box, in that box is a chocolate from New Year's Eve. Yeah. He never went back to Grand Central after New Year's Eve. He did because that's where the horse was hanging out. And now I understand why they told us this stupid fact that the horse has been hanging out at Grand Central Station. Because where's the horse hanging out at Grand Central Station?

That's when he put the chocolate in the box. So she died and he went back to his little home there and he's like, well, I'm going to save this chocolate for good. From the night I fuck the girl to death and put it in the box with my baby blanket. You fucking shot that scene, put it in the goddamn movie, because he pulls that chocolate out and I was like, fuck you. There's no way that chocolate is in there. A hundred year old chocolate.

So then he goes using the chocolate as his only clue. He goes in search of answers. In search of... Oh, we didn't talk about the moment, though, where he's just kind of wandering around the park and bumps into a little young girl. Now, meanwhile, his best friend or his good close friend at Grand Central Station, a black man who is magical. We don't know how he's magical.

He's another like guardian angel type person. Right. It's very much like that movie, The Adjustment Bureau. We don't know their certain... So he's standing not more than, I would say, two feet away from Colin Farrell. Uh-huh. Oh, I guess he has amnesia, so he doesn't remember him. Correct.

Okay, that's why he doesn't recognize him. He's flipping. He's flipping the coin. He's saying, come on, Pete. Come on, Pete. Here's your change. Here's your change. Here's your change, Pete.

He flips the magic coin. And then the little girl. And then facilitates, finally, after a hundred years. Why did it take that long? I don't know. After a hundred years, he facilitates the meeting of Colin Farrell and the little girl, who... Yes. ...he is meant in reality...

Yes. ...to use his miracle... The real red-headed girl. What? The real red-headed girl! What? Who is... What?

Who is also dying of cancer, which is not contagious. Which is the 2014 consumption. Yes. Let's face it. By the way, also, at some point, we learned that Colin Farrell is Lady Sybil's miracle, or something like that. Yes. Maybe that's why he's become immortal.

He cannot die because he is her miracle. Yes. Because in dying, she gave him life. He cannot be killed. No, no, no. Yes. Because he has a miracle in him, and he won't die until he gave it to that red-headed girl. No.

Lucifer says to Will Smith in the second scene, says to Russell Crowe, you were too short-sighted. You thought you were ruining his miracle. You didn't account for the fact that it was her death was her miracle, and her death or her miracle protected him. He cannot be killed. Okay. God. And that's why...

So the deal is capable of miracles than at all points. That's why Russell Crowe then makes the deal to... We are going to fight to the one true death. That means Russell Crowe has to become mortal. And then his three little shaves go away from the back of his head. His cool 80s haircut that Jason really liked goes away. Now he's mortal, so he can have a fist fight. Oh, boy.

So baby cancer. I'm sorry, but the little girl, the cancer-ridden little girl is Jennifer Connelly's daughter. Then they meet in the... By the way, don't you think that they're... I feel like the movie was pushing them to almost kiss. I was like, is he going to have to kiss this little baby on them now? Well, I thought that was a hundred percent going to happen. I felt like that was...

I was like, I feel uncomfortable with this. Oh, yeah. Let me also say, by the way, do not ask a child actor to have a seizure on film. That was super awkward. Oh, the best moment of the movie. That was really uncomfortable. That was... I'll be June for a second.

That was upsetting. But... But what happens is they have a weird meeting in the park at night, and then they separate from each other, and then he's on the search to figure out the chocolate, the mystery of the chocolate. He goes to the library, not to the library, to the newspaper library, or whatever, and he's like, I got to find out what's up with this chocolate, and the guy's like, well, you can't without ID.

Well, the guy gives him actually two pieces of ID, so it's really hard. And in between... And a waiting period. And I also... And there's a microfiche waiting period. Yeah, there is. It's like guns. Like two big waiting periods.

Guns and microfiche. You need to do it. To keep psychopaths from looking at microfiche. But in the meantime, sorry, in the meantime, Conn Farrell, between the first meeting with Jennifer Connelly and her daughter, and the second, Conn Farrell has mostly remembered who he is, and has now cut his hair and is wearing his old clothes from the teens. Yes. And he now looks identical to himself in the nineteen teens.

Which is very confusing. Yeah. But he's living in... Okay, so... Well, he meets Jennifer Connelly in the library section of it, and he has a two-page explanation of what happened up at the movie until now. There is a great movie. He's like, well, what are you researching?

And she's like, I have a cure for cancer. I guess. I guess. She also has a mind. She also has a mind. There are so many regulations these days. A lot of weird lines. This scene, in particular, he is just monologuing, and it's all run on sentences.

I think you're right about reshoots. Yeah, it was a reshoot. This was definitely a reshoot. And then she believes him. She brings him back to the microfiche. They find the pictures in the newspaper of William Hurt and his daughter, and then that's when Conn Farrell starts to cry. I can only imagine, by the way, if you're listening to this and you did not see the

movie, you must be like, what the f... Like, I mean, he's been talking it through, and I'm like, wow. An hour and 24 team for a long time. We've settled into 2014. Oh, yeah. For a bit. This is like at least a half an hour of the movie. Jennifer Conn then flips the page, and he's a picture of Colin Farrell and Lady Sybil.

And when were these pictures taken? Because I don't remember the pictures taken. I don't remember the pictures taken. Every camera is naked. And by the way, that's the easiest thing to set up. Yup. Right. Picture day.

Picture day. New Year's Eve flash. Just one flash. Nope. And these are like, weirdly, they're not even in their New Year's Eve gift. No, they're just outdoor pictures. But also, who's taking pictures in the teens outside in the winter? Yeah.

Nobody. And they were so... This equipment wouldn't have worked. And you're like, oh, take a picture. Oh, Lady Sybil, take a picture with a stranger that just came to our house for this afternoon. Like, it's not... There's no even... Oh, it's so stupid.

They were at an event where they could have easily gotten a picture of the New Year's Eve party. They dropped the ball. Like, very much at the shining. It should have been everyone at the New Year's Eve party, and it would have been a great bump. Jennifer Connally believes him to have been from the past. Of course.

She's wearing the same fucking outfit. And it's, again, unfazed. Nope. Never gets... And basically, he's like, you want to come over for dinner? Yeah. And he's like, no, I got to figure out who I am some more, so I'll see you later. And no, not before.

Not before they go upstairs, though. Yeah. They go upstairs and meet, like, the kind of Catherine Graham character who's running the paper. Who, if you do the math, is like, a hundred and four years old. Yes. Yeah. She ought to be about a hundred and four years old.

Because... She played by an actress who's about 85. Because... She's still running the paper. Still running the newspaper. Still, like, really running it. Like, she is the little sister of Lady Sybil, all grown up, and now is an old woman. And she sees...

Yeah, I got it. Yeah, I still got it. She sees Colin Farrell, and she goes, Peter Lake. Someone she hasn't seen in a hundred years, and he hasn't aged. She hasn't seen in 100 years. She goes, well, well, well. Well, well, well. This man isn't...

Look who is unchanged. Un-engaged. And you're actually the same. Standing in my lobby. And she's like, come here. Give me a hug, you. And then immediately brings me back to the house. She did drop a thing.

Yeah, she did drop a thing. Now, here's the thing. You introduce a character that's 105 years old. You think that she's going to play a pivotal role in this movie. Nope. Not at all. She basically has a cameo. Oh, yeah.

And then she looks up the window and tells us something incomprehensible about stars. Yep. So she... That means that she also is aware of stars, but she has no real knowledge of stars because she was not with consumption and her sister does. It's madness. So then she... But she kept the table in the tea cups.

Who cares? Who cares? They have some tea and she's like, I feel like... But not even the same tea? Not even the same tea. She's like, I feel like I'm never going to see you again. And he's like, well, yep, you're right. Later.

Yeah. He high fives her. They fucking walk out of there. And he and Jennifer... No, he and Jennifer Connelly. Then they split up. Yes. Then they split up.

And then I was like, why are they splitting up? She's like, I live on 12th Street. Do you want to come eat chicken? And she's like, no, I got to go, like you said, I got to go keep figuring out who I am. I got to mystery to solve. See you later. And then he decides, ah, maybe I will have some of that chicken on 12th Street. And then tracks her down by her last name and the fact that she lives on 12th Street.

He walks all of 12th Street. And checked every... That is a giant, giant job. That's a fuck you. That's a fuck you to New York City right there. All she should have said is, I live on 12th and 5th. Yep. Right.

Just say the intersection. Yes. Why even just 12th? It's just 12th. That street is so long. But that line of dialogue where he goes, you're the only game Lee on 12th Street and I do like chicken, felt like something they had to drop in there to explain how the fuck he ends up in that big step.

And it was a mistake. A mistake we missed. So then we see the baby have the seizure. Big mistake. And that's when he realizes the baby has red hair. And the red hair. And that's when he realizes his destiny is to save this little girl. And then I'm like, make out with that baby.

Oh yeah. He's got to get her out to the old country house, which they do once again by way of the ice. Yes. But wait, why do they need to get to the old country house? Because the princess bed is there. But the princess bed is not real, that was made by the 5 year old girl. It was real.

It worked, didn't it? It worked, but for no reason, because that girl has no magic. I agree, but it worked. Okay. But I mean that's a crazy ass thing to do, it makes no sense. But that country house is in the protected area that the demon cannot go to. Okay. Which may be why he wants to go there.

Okay. I don't know if at that point he understands that... I think he believes... I think he believes he needs to be in the princess bed. Well, the princess bed didn't work last time. The dick only works in the princess bed. So obviously they take off on the horse, they're flying, and as they fly to the lake of the Cohes, all of Russell Crowe's guys in black and BMWs reach it at the identical time.

They're able to... Five cars in formation across a frozen lake. But they are also able to... This horse is flying on like wings. They are able to keep pace with a flight. That's what I'm saying. It makes no sense. They arrive there, the cars are...

I guess the cars are magic, and now we get the big final fight scene between Russell Crowe, which is also like why... That's what this movie is commenting towards, like a fisticuff scene between these two. Between a demon who has now transformed himself into a human for reasons I now don't remember, although it helps him be at this country house, which he otherwise would not be able to go to as a demon. Yes, because he... I guess he wants to kill...

Oh, is that why he can go to the country house? Yes, it is. Because he's not a demon anymore. He's now renounced his demonhood. That's why he can go anywhere. But they renounced it, though, because he wanted to kill him for... Because he is powerful now. He's immortal.

The only way that he could take away his immortality is to... Fight him to the one true death. Yes. Yes, correct. I believe that's true. But in fighting to the one true death, that means Russell Crowe has to fight as a human. He doesn't have his demon powers. Well, I guess you know what's going to happen here.

Russell Crowe kills Colin Fraun, and the little girl dies. It was a really bummer of an ending, but... I wish. Now, this is when the little emblem from the tiny little toy boat finally comes into play as the instrument with which he kills Russell Crowe. It doesn't justify the presence of that scene. But Russell Crowe, when he gets stabbed in the neck, turns into a fucking snowman. We don't know why that happens.

I thought he was mortal. I thought he was immortal. Not like... I thought he was mortal. Yes. So he should have just died. He does make some reference earlier in the movie, too, when he's talking about what he wants to do to Colin Fraun.

I want to turn him into snow. I want him to scatter. But so that's a thing. Oh, really? I guess that's a thing. But is that a thing? I mean... So he stabs him with the boat thing, which means...

City of Justice. I guess that he gave him justice. He finally gave it justice. But, oh, God, that's terrible. Then they go and they kiss. The girl comes back to life. The girl comes back to life in a hilarious little misdirect, where we think she's dead, and she pops up and says, hey, what's up, guys?

I was hoping that girl was dead. We see, by the way, there are two prominent placements of Dunkin' Donuts on 12th Street. The second one comes after that. They got their money's worth. And... I want to do the Dunkin' Donuts like cups for this, like you go in and like, I would like a Peter Lake cup and I'll take a pearly sum. I'll have a medium Peter Lake-Tay.

I think the message of this movie, and this is me giving it a lot of credit, is that if someone has been diagnosed with a terminal illness, and you're sitting there praying for them to survive, understand that what it's going to take for that to happen is all of the crazy bullshit that goes on in this movie. So don't bother. Oh, but I do want to say that I then fully expected Colin Farrell and Jennifer Connelly to get together and raise that little girl, but instead he takes the flying horse and flies into the stars and becomes a star.

He becomes a star. That's right. Yes, he is free to become a star now because he has performed his miracle. And I think we are meant to assume that this little girl grows up to become the grandmother of the first person who goes to Mars. So when we all die, we become stars. Is that what we're led to? I think that's part of it.

Oh, if we're good. If we're good. Well, I will tell you this much. Obviously, we had an opinion about this movie, but there are people who had a second opinion. That's right. It's time for second opinions. From top to bottom, crazy movies are fun, not your first, but they're gonna be a second from the chips of Amazon, they come second opinion for everyone second opinion reviews

on Amazon. So I had to take a 10 star, a 10 star review from IMDB. And here we go. This is from Ilea 657. This is one of those movies that is so profound, so perceptive altering. You cannot truly appreciate this movie for more than a love story or a monster story if you're not a deep person. This will be a movie I showed to my son and I hope he grasped the meaning of.

The love scenes captured romance and love between two people and not the filth. This movie is not getting its due. Unfortunately, I feel like it's because of the level our society is on now. Sad, really. Wow. 10 stars. Oh, brother. I feel like I just got taken out to the shit.

And then here's two more. This is from Pam V. Critics of this movie surely don't have a heart or an imagination. For this movie is overflowing with both. To such a degree, I was amazed. Or perhaps the critics are nonplussed by the concept of miracles actually happening. It was like stepping into another world, not unlike the worlds of C.S. Lewis and Phil Pullman. I don't think it's Phil Pullman.

Philip Pullman? Yeah. Yeah. But as you go, it's like stepping into the world of C.S. Lewis, but much more subtle and contemporary. For me, this is life and mood altering. I will see it again after the day it was opened. It is a must see in my book for any human being.

Whoa. And finally. So you hear that members of the animal kingdom? You're not welcome to see this movie. And then Patty M. finishes us off by saying, if you can suspend your intellect for a moment and remember how you believed as a child, you will find this to be beautiful touching uplifting. This is Shakespeare and Dickens.

Whoa. It is not Tom Clancy and Philip Roth. What seems sophomoric to many critics is magic. It is childlike imagination and hope. It is a classic struggle of good and evil, which will be lost on many in our gray society. Oh, yeah. This movie is the sav for hurting and longing. And if.

Oh, God. So if you can leave the details of it behind for a moment, embrace the love and faith as reality beyond what our minds can fathom. I don't understand that. I agree that having that point of view requires setting your intellect aside. Yeah. You need to. Well, there was, I will say there were, there were like real emotional beats in this movie

that I was like. Yes. That I was affected. Tears a couple of times. Yeah. That I was affected by. Like they did. Oh yeah.

Like there are good performances in this movie. That's why I say it gets the participation. Yeah. And that's what was tough about it is like. It's not bad. For example, another movie this year that I loved that also was a romantic. Can I guess? Movie that had a sci-fi element about time, about time.

It's an awesome movie that I also was like, this is going to be weird and crazy, but it totally worked because it was very, very simple and the rules of it were very clearly established. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Any, any movie, I think movies with magic, you have to just give us a baseline. Yes. And in this, I can't even, I don't even know what the baseline is because some of the people

who have magic aren't even aware of them having magic and at the end, like when he flies up to the star, he does it so naturally and so like, all right, bye, I'm going to become a star now, bye. Bye. See you in a life for a century, bye. It's so crazy. I mean, there's no, there's no explanation to it. Would you guys recommend people seeing this movie in the theater or on the video?

I really would not. No, it sounds like I would recommend reading the book. Yeah. I would like to read this book now. I would not. No? I'm not going to read this book at all. One of the best fiction books, I can't imagine that's true.

Here's what I will say, go see a really good movie and then if you, and then get stoned and sneak into this movie. Yeah. I mean, I did say, I did laugh out loud a handful of times. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I laughed out loud a bunch and there was a, and some of the performances are okay. It's not, it's not like last airbender level, terrible.

No, no. It's definitely watchable. What's unfortunate about the movie is I, there's parts of it that I'm like, oh, I bet there could have been a cool movie here if they made any effort to make it make sense. I believe I saw on one website, someone describe it as like a really well financed version of the room. It's, it's weird and I mean, it's like, it has all the elements of a midnight movie. It like, that doesn't make sense.

There's all these weird moments and, and weird shots. It's a bizarre movie. I should definitely check it out when it's out, when it's on the video. And a big thanks to our engineer, Cody, who is always awesome for us and all the people that make this show possible. I'm talking about Nick Kiley does all the research, Avril Haley, who pulls all of our clips. Leanna Waldron designs are amazing, amazing graphics on our Facebook page.

Definitely check that out. All right. We'll see you next time. Thanks for watching, and I'll see you in the next one.