How Did This Get Made? - Megalopolis LIVE!
Episode Date: January 24, 2025STOP TIME! This week Paul, June and Jason are breaking down the 2024 Francis Ford Coppola film, Megalopolis, LIVE from the New York Comedy Festival at Town Hall. The three breakdown what Megalon shoul...d be used for, Adam Driver's incredible performance, and much more! Sponsored by Big Nut. HDTGM Spring Tour 2025 tickets are now on sale for Austin, Denver, Seattle, Boise, San Fran, Portland, & LA at hdtgm.com.Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of TraumaCheck out new HDTGM movie merch over at teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmJoin the HDTGM conversation on Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheerVisit Paul’s YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheerFollow Paul’s movie recs on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer/Friend Zone w/ Paul and Rob Huebel live on Twitch every Thursday 5pmPT / 8pmET: www.twitch.tv/friendzoneLike good movies too? Listen to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson: https://www.unspooledpodcast.com/Listen to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael: www.thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcastWhere to find Paul, June, & Jason:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on social media Get access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm.
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What is time? Who is time? Where is time? Time. Time. Time? Good thing we have a lot
of it and by it I mean time. We saw Megalopolis so you know what that means. Now it's time to blow out the...
The T.L.I.A.S big callin' the beautiful June Gonna take you from the pool while the waves are rollin'
Renegades the street fighter hope to blow off steam
Just a sucker plus the odd lights are tippin' you three
Sharp nips, a blur demig, how you stayin' alive
They callin' him their badass and he's on the line
Crankin' 88 minutes cause they cool as ice
Cause they're bad Jim Bonny lookin' kind of nice
Callin' June, gettin' literal, Jason is gettin' lame
June is makin' sure all the monkey shots get paid.
There's just a bunch of movies, why we making the grade?
Here's a real question for you, how did this kid pay?
Hello, people of Earth, and hello, people of New York.
We are live at the New York Comedy Festival,
back at Town Hall
talking about a fable of our time.
That's right, Megalopolis, a film that has been
in production since 1991.
But then actual production in 2023.
Now, here is the thing.
I normally spend this time at the top of
the show trying to break down the plot just in case you didn't see it. Oh, it's
about a kid who gets crazy pair of glasses and he learns how to fly. I can't
break down this movie! An alternate New York, an architect, a mayor,
a Fox News host, I don't know.
It seems like so much happens, but yet so little.
But yet so long.
And yet I couldn't turn my eyes away.
The film came out just a couple of weeks ago.
I pre-ordered it, I bought it,
only to find out it was only available for rental,
so I paid $27.99 and then $19.99.
I got fucked on this movie.
But I did it all for you, because this is a movie for New York. This is your movie.
And let's break it down with my two co-hosts. Please welcome to the stage Mr. Jason Manzoukas! Yaaaaaas!
Time stop!
What's up jerks?
Let's go!
We have to be out by 1130 Fuck it we're locking the doors!
We're staying till dawn!
Everybody gets Megalon!
Seriously, what is Megalon?
Apparently, it can stop or repair bullet wounds and build buildings.
This? Wow. Wow.
So you paid twice for it.
Yeah.
So we both had very, very complicated relationships
to this movie because I accidentally,
a two and a half hour movie,
I accidentally watched 25 minutes twice.
What?
Because I didn't recognize them
as things I'd already seen before.
The movie repeats itself so much that I was like,
huh, I feel like they did this already.
And then they got to a point where I was like, oh, fuck!
I might have talked about this in another episode,
but when I saw Requiem for a Dream,
the projectionist messed up and played the second real twice and I
was like ooh this is an interesting choice and then nonlinear storytelling
I've already seen it but now I'm watching again now I'm learning more and
then he came out was like I'm sorry I fell asleep and then it really fucked me
up I never want to watch that movie again. But the benefit of this movie is no matter how many times you watch it,
it won't make sense.
It is cryptic at best.
It is a series of dreamscapes.
Ladies and gentlemen, Gene Diane LaFleur.
No, because we only have till 1130.
I knew we were getting too close.
We only have till 1130, so I had to come out.
I knew we were getting too close to it.
It's so late!
It's so late already!
We can't start a show now.
We got the coveted 945 slot.
I'm 51 years old.
I can't do a show at this hour.
You know, Paul, did you say you bought the movie twice?
Yes.
Okay, and I bought it once.
So as a family.
So we have spent 24, 19, and 19.
So we have spent over $60 on Megalop.
Francis Ford Coppola, thank you.
Wow.
You've gone a long way to making him whole from this.
Him personally whole.
So I had an interesting experience on the plane because I was sitting next to our 10-year-old
son, not the one that was out here, but our 10-year-old and I was, I, well, first of all,
I had to cover a lot of the movie with my book and try to hide it from him,
but I fell asleep.
And I fell asleep for a while,
and he woke me up, and I screamed at him.
I was like, what are you doing?
I was sleeping.
And he's like, I thought you were supposed
to watch the movie.
I go, I am.
Still never do that.
I would love it if you open your notebook and he had
taken notes for the section that you'd fall in asleep. He just
took expert notes on the movie.
By the way, our son has said that when we die, he's taking
over the show.
Right.
Right.
Wait, does that include me?
No, you get to stay.
Oh, I get to stay?
Fuck yeah, I'll do a show with two kids.
Any babies in the house?
I told... I don't know if I told you this.
You brought a baby?
What?
You wish?
Not cool.
Don't say you wish you brought a baby.
No circumstances that good. I wish I brought my baby? you brought a baby. No circumstances that good.
I wish I brought my baby, sure.
A baby.
I wish.
I wish I had a baby to bring to a 945 comedy show.
Let's play clip 10 because we can look at it.
Oh, we're gonna watch clips?
Well, all I'm gonna say is this.
Megalopolis was meant to be seen on IMAX,
so imagine this scene with the boner in IMAX.
We came to pay our respects, Grandpa.
What do you think of this boner?
I, uh...
When I look at her and I'm, uh...
If it wasn't for this,
I would have been able to outspend you
in the end.
But I will outlive you.
You false speech slut.
Look at how small that is.
With your closing bell.
Bow!
Look at how small that is. Closing bow.
Boom!
What?
That bow is not going to produce that many pounds of pork.
And boom!
Oh!
This man!
Okay old man Legolas.
That is...
Wow.
I mean, watching it again, he seems...
Like if he put a gun in his hand, I wouldn't be as afraid.
The bow and arrow makes him seem dangerous and crazy.
Yes.
Also, I love that he's just closing one eye.
For the first half, he's just like, I don't know, and then he's like, ha ha!
Kind of like he's suddenly Robin Hood.
He's been preparing for this for so long.
Oh, do you mean, welcome?
Do you think that the arrows were made out of Megalon?
Oh, that's interesting.
I don't think so, because I think only Adam Driver has access to Megalon, which I don't
know.
From outer space.
I believe it is from outer space.
Okay, so here's what I thought, and I could be wrong, because I was again in and out of
my own fever dream, and then tapping into this one.
But I thought that when he went to go rescue his wife,
Sunny Hope, from the water.
And was that gonna be the daughter's name
if they had a daughter and if it was a boy,
it was Francis?
Francis!
They said if it was a boy, it would be Francis.
And I was like, movie, get fucked.
I'm not interested in what this is about now.
So I-
I mean, these names, Caesar Catalina,
you have Franklin Cicero.
And no Catalina wine mixer jokes to be found.
Wow Platinum.
Incredible.
Claudio Pulcher, Crassus, Fundy, and Sunny Hope.
I think that- Well, so I thought when Sunny Hope- Oh, no, Sunny Hope Fundy, and Sunny Hope.
I think that- Well, so I thought when Sunny Hope-
Oh, no, Sunny Hope is the Virgin, I think.
Oh, no, no, you're right, sorry.
That's someone else.
Vestra, I think that's her name?
Vestra, right, yes.
Vestra, a Vestal Virgin?
Yes, Vesta the Vestal.
Oh my God.
Like in the Procol Harem song?
The Virgin auction.
Vesta Sweetwater is her name.
What?
Vesta Sweetwater is her name.
Oh yes, Vesta Sweetwater. Oh, stop What? Vesta Sweetwater is her name. Oh, yes. Vesta Sweetwater.
Oh, stop saying all these names.
That's so terrible.
Both Paul and I, I thought Adam Driver did a wonderful job.
Me, too.
I really did, because I was like,
I was watching his performance, and I'm like,
well, first of all, that hair was so tough,
and I don't know what any of us could have done with it.
Like, it truly was so difficult. And I know the cut, I know it's the Caesar cut, but there were times...
Oh, is that what it was?
I think so.
Yes. Didn't you? I mean, wasn't it giving you full blown George Clooney from season
two of ER?
Yeah. What it made me feel was like, can you comb your hair? It felt like his hair was never...
And that's what was upsetting.
It's not a cut that any person can pull off.
Any person. Not even Caesar?
Yeah, not even Caesar.
How about little Caesar?
Pizza, pizza.
But on him, it also looked like, yeah,
can you put a comb through it?
Can you fix it a little bit at all?
Like spread some Megalon in it, see what's up.
See what happens.
Give it a sheen, give it a gloss.
I really thought that he did a great...
First of all, his soliloquy, I thought his Shakespeare was the best part of the movie.
And I wanted more of it.
Well, yeah, because that was something that was not written for the film.
But boy, Adam Driver can handle the text.
Yes.
I thought he did a beautiful job.
I think Adam Driver is like, can I improvise?
Because apparently, spoiler alert,
they improvised a lot of this movie.
Wait, no.
This wasn't tightly scripted?
I want to say this is what is on record.
Coppola adopted an experimental style, encouraging his actors to improvise and write certain
scenes during the shoot and added them at the last minute into the script.
The art department and visual effects team, among others, left midway through the production.
It's fair to say it is well documented this movie was flying by the seat of its pants,
which is odd for a film that he's been writing since 1991.
That's the thing.
That is what's so tough.
You think there would be some sort of dot, dot, dot plot?
Story?
It's a movie of ideas.
It's like, is it? To me, to me, this movie is a guy who has listened
to a podcast about Roman history and is really high
and going, what would be great is this.
And then you have a guy, he's like Caesar,
and he's like, but it's the city,
but it's also the Statue of Liberty,
the torches in the other hand.
And then they're all running around, and then there's about homeless people, and it's about New York, and it's also the Statue of Liberty, the torches in the other hand. And then they're all running around
and then there's about homeless people
and it's about New York and it's about every life
and fucking and you're like, right, right.
But you would never make that movie.
You just go home and go to bed.
And he made it.
But instead you sell a substantial amount of money
in of your own personal money in your wine company to vet at
value to finance this insane movie well there were times and I know it's a movie
about ideas okay but there were times where I was just like this utopia that
he's describing like the only real difference is that instead of the buildings being like straight blocks,
they're swirls.
It's like, Adam Driver's.
It's like that Hudson yard thing over there.
Yeah, it's like, oh wait, is that what it is?
To me, it seems like the future is that we would all
be living in a version of a pinball machine.
Like, it's like, ooh, it all looked like people were traveling in pinballs and they would
go around in pinballs.
And at the same time, I didn't understand what the...
I want to build a casino.
I want to build a pinball machine.
And it seems like those ideas could probably exist together.
So much of it is about...
Is analogous to the Roman Empire and all this stuff.
And I'm just not one of those people who's obsessed with the Roman Empire.
So I was like, I don't give a fuck about any of this stuff.
And it seems to be just consumed with legacy and time and the artist, the artist needs
to be able to control time.
And I was like, buddy, that's not gonna happen.
We are all hurtling towards certain death.
And I didn't understand.
I mean, at points in the movie, I was like,
the female characters are so underwritten.
I'm so upset.
But then also I was upset by the male characters too.
So it was really tough.
I mean, the movie does not pass the Bechdel test
on any level, but also like...
It doesn't pass the movie test.
It doesn't, it doesn't like, what is...
It's in a movie, I don't know.
Who is Jason Schwartzman in this movie?
Great question.
Who is that character?
Who's Dustin Hoffman?
Who's Dustin Hoffman?
What's the story of the dead wife?
Don't know.
And when he goes to that apartment
and he's with his dead wife sitting over her
and Natalie Emanuel has followed him there
and she's spying on him and it turns out
he's talking to an empty bed?
I was like, what is this?
Not only is he...
Is he gonna fuck the empty bed MacGruber style?
Not only is he fucking,
not only is he like talking to her,
he's not talking to an empty bed,
he's tying her hair,
like he's French braiding her hair.
Doesn't he imagine there to be other people
in the room as well?
Yes, and I think that-
Like what is that?
I think that the other actress,
the mayor's daughter, can see his visions right there
Baby won't stop into like he can stop time
She can see his visions because she sees him go to a flower shop that I don't think is real
Get flowers to go visit his wife, which is also not real, but is he actually going to an abandoned building?
Was he just in a mind pal? And why wouldn't he just do that in his own house? his wife, which is also not real, but is he actually going to an abandoned building?
Or is he just in a mine palace?
And why wouldn't he just do that in his own house?
But then he also has a flock of kids working for him.
Okay, I want to talk about the design department.
What are they called?
The Design Architects Department Association.
Yes, the building authority.
The Design Association, whoever they are, when they...
The DA.
We call it the DA.
When they are in his main work loft.
One of my favorite scenes.
Oh my God.
And they are doing physical...
The montage.
There's multiple scenes in this movie...
There's multiple scenes in this movie that I am certain employed the Pilobolus dancers.
There's no doubt in my mind. The fetus scene where the fetus then turns into dancers. I was like, fucking Pelopolis dancers.
We've watched a lot of long movies on this podcast.
I was like, I'm in.
I don't know why I'm so in.
Like, I'm having this.
I'm really wrestling with what am I watching?
I don't get it. I don't like it.
But I'm also like, I can't look away and I need to see it again
Do we need to buy it again? We've already bought it so many times I think Francis Ford Coppola will come over to our house and and do a director's commentary if asked
No, here's the things I'm sorry
I have to go back to the shape people again because I just want to know what what we end up seeing in the actual
Space in his you know realized vision are again are those swirls the shapes
that they had been creating but believe I believe his architecture studio which
is in like the the dome of the Chrysler building whatever that's what
that's alternate you it's not the price of whatever maybe it's called. It's alternate. It's not the Chrysler building. Whatever. Maybe it's called the Heisler building.
Yes, of course.
Do you guys, because, you know, this is New York.
Did you guys feel like this movie got your city right?
Did you feel seen by this movie, New York City?
A movie shot in New York and filmed in Atlanta.
That's right, New Rome.
But here's the thing, when you see, I mean, yes, we see kids, we see upside down water bottles
and tennis balls representing a city,
but then when he brings somebody out to like the-
Oh yeah, the trash, the model of the city
that looks like it's just piled up from the trash.
Walk around, close your eyes, all right.
Why?
You're an architect.
If you look at an architect build a model,
it's not built with like trash from the garbage outside.
No, especially because-
It's not like we found a tennis ball
and put it on a parking cone.
Especially because he is using real architectural tools.
I mean, he is standing with, I don't know-
T-square?
Yeah, T-square like, ah. Is it called a T-square? Yeah, T-square, like, ah.
Is it called a T-square? What's it called?
I did want to see him get crucified on that.
T-square? Wait, is there an architect in the house? Raise your hand.
Architect in the... I'm not interested in a balcony architect.
Yeah, okay.
I'm interested in an architect that got their act together enough to get floor seats.
All right. what is it?
It's a T-square, it is a T-square.
All right, well, thank you.
All that for, we already knew it,
then I appreciate it, nothing wrong that you did.
All right, so it is a T-square.
Here's what I'll say.
When he goes to the expo to show off his main invention,
it's just a motorized walkway. Like he's like, this will take you
wherever you want to go. It's like, yeah, I just did that at the airport.
This felt a lot like, do you remember when the Segway came out, when they were calling
it the IT and it was going to revolutionize commuting and travel in America and they wouldn't
announce what it was and everybody was like, this, what's his, Dean Kamen, was that the
guy's name that invented it? He's got this like, what's this, Dean Kamen, was that the guy's name that invented it?
He's got this thing, it's about to change the world,
we're about to change history,
cities are gonna look different, global warming
is gonna get changed by this,
and it's this fucking scooter with gyroscopes.
And everybody was like, no, Guy, no!
Well, that's the thing that was so funny about the walkway.
I mean, that's what it is, it's a walkway.
We never saw people transport on it. We only ever saw them walk on it I mean, that's what it is. It's a walkway. We never saw people transport on
it. We only ever saw them walk on it. Like, wow.
Right. But then they get in those balls at the end.
Oh, I guess they do get in the balls at the end. But it was also when he's showing his
mom, I mean, we haven't talked about the relationship with the mom, but when he's showing her the
walkway, it looks like it's 10 feet long.
That's it. Where is she going to go She's gonna be kicked right off it. I feel like that's like Elon Musk building,
like, some length of a hyperloop
or whatever that thing is called,
just to be like, see, I can do it.
But, uh, and this was him being like,
this is what it'll look like, but it'll be all over,
and it'll go to these buildings that look sort of like plants.
And then that's it? Is it just...
Is it just us is it just us?
What is it, what does he wanna do?
I think it's a vibe, ultimately.
It's a vibe.
It's a vibe.
Megalopolis is a vibe, I buy that.
Honestly, I do think though
that it is a lifestyle more than anything else.
Yeah, it's the kind of lifestyle in a city
where the news reports they're the richest kids
in the world and rumor has it,
they're sleeping with each other too. Why did that keep coming up? It is I mean
according to my research Caesar proposes using Megalon to build Megalopolis a
utopian urbanist community and Cicero wants a casino that will provide an
immediate tax revenue.
Wait a minute. That's the first I'm hearing about a casino.
Oh, casino is in that opening scene when they're on the rafters and they go,
we want to build this casino. And Dustin Hoffman is like, it's a good casino.
And that's when he comes in and does To Be or Not To Be.
Yes, but the problem is, and maybe it's there good casino. And that's when he comes in and does To Be or Not To Be.
Yes, but the problem is, and maybe it's there and I missed it,
but I guess we all know that's why casinos come into town for the tax stuff.
But that was not made explicitly clear in the movie.
So I was sort of like, why is he on a casino so bad?
And also, why would they need to get on scaffolding
above a model of the city to show what a casino would look like?
I don't know, because they're all looking down.
Yeah, like, oh, this is the way to look at it.
The difference, they're two competing interests.
One is a single casino and one is an entire city.
That's two very different things. And I did want,
I did want Adam Driver's character Catalina.
Catalina.
Caesar.
Okay, okay, Caesar.
I did want C squared to address.
By the way, I will say,
Caesar Catalina is my favorite salad dressing.
I did want him to address like the infrastructure issue
of of Megalopolis and also like what is gonna happen to all the people who are
being displaced? Oh they're upset. Does he have an answer for that? Because this
motherfucker is like independently imploding buildings with no authority
he's just blow it. No. And, and they're so close, like,
there's no protective gear.
There's not a safety goggle in sight.
Well, that's what I thought the Megalon was, like, protecting,
but then the Megalon doesn't really come...
But I think that this movie at points is...
Also, why is his wife somehow inside of the Megalon?
Like, whenever he's, like, interacting with the Megalon
in its fractal glory, she, her face is looking through it
and she's talking to him.
See, I thought he found the Megalon
when he went into the ocean after her.
Yes, that's what he did.
I think that's what the movie wants us to think.
I don't think we ever saw that.
I thought you said he found it in space.
I think the Megalon came, but it crashed's from space, but it's in the water.
OK.
I'm so sorry.
I know we have some architects here.
Is there a Megalon expert here?
I will.
So a Soviet satellite crashed to Earth,
destroying most of New Rome.
And then Caesar builds Megalopolis out of the ruins using his family forces upon the project.
Okay, so then why blow up part of the city if in the middle of the movie, the satellite is going to destroy part of the city?
Like, what's the...
Why?
Like, why not just have the satellite land and be like, uh-oh, by the way, I don't need all the 9-11-esque footage
that is the result. I was like, oh, come on, man.
Here's what I will say about this movie. I feel like sometimes
you get a director of a certain age who is like,
I need to make a movie to justify that I've been an asshole my entire life,
but I'll put it in a fable, right? It's like, you see, it doesn't have to always make sense.
Just ideas, right?
Like, let me be, let me cook, and also fuck some people.
That's not my wife.
Now, I think at parts, this movie thinks it's so smart
and treats us like we're so dumb.
Like, it's like when they're driving through
the bad part of town, and like the justice statue is like
Crumbling down. I like that part leaning up against the wall. She's so tired justice
And then there's just so much injustice in this world
But you see now look that's a visual beautiful thing
Sure, but then you cut to the car and he's like justice is falling
down. No we just saw it! It's not a fucking radio play. Here's the thing that I'll
say because I want to agree with you both. Adam Driver I think is he's in all
of this. He's in every frame. He's doing all of the work trying valiantly to make
sense of a movie that is frankly bat shit crazy.
The thing about watching Plaza or Shire or whatever is they get to just spiral off and
be nuts.
But Driver's got to hold the whole thing together and he's doing, I will say, a Nicolas Cage
level performance.
I thought it was great.
One of the only Coppola's not in this movie, inexplicably.
Talia Shire's in the house, Schwarzman's in the house.
James Kahn was supposed to be in this movie.
It was gonna be his swan song.
He was like, Francis, you gotta write me a swan song.
And the part that was written for him
was the part of Dustin Hoffman.
But James Kahn passed away before they shot it.
Now here's the thing.
And what part was that exactly? Well, this is Now here's the thing. And what part was that exactly?
Well, this is, here's the thing.
He dies off camera.
He dies off camera, and then when they flash to it
in a horrific way.
But why even have it at all?
He also has a statue in the yard or whatever,
and at a certain point, aren't they,
they're unveiling, is it the statue of John Voight,
and it keeps wobbling back and forth
because it's clearly just made out of plastic.
And the giant bronze statue,
they're trying to take the curtain off it,
it's just like wobble, wobble, wobble.
And I was like, you couldn't get a take
where the statue doesn't wobble?
It's really tough because you have some incredible actors
playing like handmaidens to other men.
Like there's the there's Dustin Hoffman, who I guess is John Voight's second in command.
Yeah. There's Jason Schwartzman.
There's Laurence Fishburne, who's like putting chairs in front of, you know, Adam Driver.
And I'm like, why the fuck are these guys playing these roles?
That's why I really appreciated Adam Driver is because he was fully doing whatever it is
that he was doing.
And there, and he really was.
And I was like, wow, hats off.
I believe that band deserves an Oscar for this film.
I would give him, I-
To do what he did.
I wish we could write in.
I wish we could write in for Oscars.
By the way, it still could get nominated.
It's still, it's in contention.
This is Oscar season, you know, people are jockeying for it.
I will say this.
I don't disagree that he's in a Nicolas Cage-esque film,
but I do think he's grounding it in a way.
When he's doing that speech, he's like, what are those things?
They're little hot dogs and pastries.
Incredible.
I love that. Diggs in a blanket, yes, that's what they are.
I was like, wow.
But he's not like, he's not scene chewing.
And god damn it, I'm interested in what he's saying.
Do I understand it?
No.
In the scene where he's doing all of his architecture that we just,
we're doing that montage, he turns to somebody at one point,
laid into it and goes,
what if what connects power stores it?
I was like, yeah, man.
What?
Are you only now getting to that?
You've got Megalon.
This is why I think the movie is so smart and so dumb.
It's like, oh yeah,
power should be stored and controlled
but then they also have this scene like my favorite favorite line of the whole
movie is someone is being interviewed by a high school newspaper and it's called
dingbat news incredible incredible news hey I'm from Dingbat News.
And then it was like, I guess a commentary on how sensational entertainment reporters
are.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I was confounded by that scene and I think I'll think about it for the rest of my life
because it did not feel like the teenage reporter was an actor.
And I say that as a compliment.
Like she truly,
thank you, it's his granddaughter.
Perfect. Thank you audience.
I knew it was, and I didn't, but I did.
I knew something, there was a texture to how she was,
I was like, this is not someone who's an actor.
But then there was also another little girl next to her.
Now that little girl, I was like,
there's no way she goes to the
same school and like reads that newspaper. She's way too young. Who is that? And she
doesn't have any lines. I don't think she speaks. Is that just another granddaughter?
That's my guess. Why not? This felt like a grandpa giving everybody candy. Everybody
gets candy and guess what?
You can do whatever you want all day.
But no, there are no rules.
Here's what it will be.
It's not candy, it's old nuts.
Like old, like they've been out for a while,
like they're in a jar, like why, these are the nuts,
the company's nuts and it's, a lot of them are just like
left like those big walnuts and they're like,
and you're, oh yeah, it it is technically food but I'm like I
don't want it have a nut have a nut and then you have to like take one of those
big like almonds all right I guess that's what this movie feels like
everything okay buddy think about those damn nuts.
I feel like you got to say your favorite line.
I'm going to say my favorite line right now, which was, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
We talk about the fact that we take notes. you're not seeing us if you're listening,
we're looking at our notes.
Never have I taken so many notes that I'm looking back on and finding confusing as to
what they might refer to.
I didn't write jokes.
I don't know.
I just wrote things like Noxzema face and I wrote Noxzema face because...
Oh, I wrote Megalon face.
Okay, so Noxzema... After his injury, I wrote Megalon face. Okay, so Noxzema...
After his injury, I was like,
I think he's had some Megalon done.
See, I like that Megalon face.
I was talking about Cicero's wife, the mayor's wife.
When he gets that phone call in the middle of the night,
it looks like his wife just has Noxzema all over her face.
And I was like, I always heard that Noxz that, like you wash your face with noxium.
I don't think you leave it on like as a base coat.
I mean, I think it was a mask,
but believe me, I had questions.
It's like, how could you ever go to sleep
with that thick of a mask on?
So he, why does he Bruce Wayne it?
I, that's so weird.
I also read, I believe this movie would function better
as a Batman-esque origin story.
Driver feels like at a certain point,
he has no choice but to become a vigilante.
And when he gets shot in the eye, I'm like, here we go.
Perfect setup.
Let everybody believe you're dead.
Come back as some sort of Megalon guy.
I don't know what it does, but be a Batman. Well, he does have powers.
Here's the question I have about powers.
And Julia, why does she have powers?
Why?
I think what we're trying to get here
is a little bit of a Romeo and Juliet thing.
It's like, here are two sides, Hatfield McCoy.
It's like, he's got the power to stop time.
From Romeo and Juliet, the Hatfield ands and the McCoys. Yes, yes, half-fields, yes.
Of course.
Classics.
Romeo, oh Romeo, wherefore art thou Romeo?
Where are my cattle?
But I think the idea is that the only thing that can bring both houses together is like
both houses have a special thing.
So she has the ability to see what he sees in his head.
He has the ability to stop time
and their baby is everything.
I think their baby is trapped in that moment.
Well, that's what I wrote.
And it's going to absolutely die.
I wrote that too.
The baby doesn't have the ability to say, restart time.
That baby's still crawling around right now,
trying to figure out how to survive.
I thought that if that baby took off on the carpet, like at the end of Aladdin, like,
it's a whole new world.
I would have loved it if it was a flying carpet.
It looked like a little flying carpet.
Wait, but here's what I guess this is the only problem I had with the movie.
Yes.
I, yes, it's a movie about these big ideas,
but I felt like the fact that he had,
well, I don't know,
but I felt like the fact that he had superpowers
was undermining whatever this movie was trying to tell us.
Well, it's trying to,
well, I think the theme there is this line,
which is, which Julia says to Caesar,
Catalina, artists can never lose their control over time.
I wrote that down.
I have an update, they can.
Yeah.
There's something about like,
the movie wants to be about how art
or the artist can stop and engage with and-
Art is, I think the idea is, you need to let me cook. to be about how art or the artist can stop and engage with and...
I think the idea is you need to let me cook, right? And then, and we'll figure it out later.
And that's a very... If you look at Francis Ford Coppola, that's his career in a nutshell, right?
But I guess... I don't know why I'm debating this.
His career is like, don't trust me, I'll make Apocalypse now. And then he's like, don't trust me,
I make Dracula. Don't trust me.
And then it gets worse and worse.
Everyone gets a little...
But what does he do with the time he's frozen?
Because that's also what I didn't understand.
Once he's... Drink?
Why? And why is he... Once he's freezing time,
why does he walk off the, rather the Chrysler building
and say, stop time!
And then he's like, whoa!
I think that that's him learning the power.
I think that's the first time he's doing it.
I think he did it once.
Why would he say it?
Because I...
You laugh.
Don't laugh at me.
That's a real question.
Wait, are you saying, so I thought stop time was him,
him forcing time to stop.
Like I didn't think the magic could happen without stop time.
I agree.
But what I think, what I'm curious about is, Paul is saying that's the first time that's
occurred to him.
So like, that would mean as you are falling off of the top of a skyscraper, you think
to say, stop time?
Oh, no, no.
I see what you're saying.
Maybe it'll...
Oh, shit, it worked?
No, you see... I see what you're saying. Fuck, yeah. Maybe it'll... Oh, shit, it worked?
No, you see...
I see what you're saying.
Fuck, I wish I'd saved my wife.
I think what happened was this.
I wish I'd known this.
I would've stopped time.
But I don't know.
But here's the thing.
He couldn't have saved his wife because he can only stop time.
He can't do anything with time or actions or...
Wouldn't it be cool if he could like go and mess with stuff?
But he can't. He only stops it.
But then...
And restarts it.
It's like that girl in that show...
Small Wonder?
Small... No, Small Wonder is a robot.
This is the girl...
Oh, sorry.
It's a...
Out of his world.
Thank you.
Boom, she puts her fingers together.
What I think was this...
Like he was...
He was at like a...
You know, he was at a pizza place.
And they're like, what do you want?
He's like, uh, uh, uh, stop time.
Oh, shit. Everything's stopped.
And he's like, huh.
Next day, he does it. Stop time.
Oh.
I'm going to go on top of the Chrysler building now.
And then, like, I think he was testing it.
So this is, like, his...
We're seeing him, like, oh, I got something.
But that plays no part into the film.
It does, like, when the...
I was waiting for a stop time bullet.
No, yeah.
No, he gets shot right in the face.
There was... he never...
Exactly.
A child...
by a child killer.
Or I guess he is not a child killer,
a killer child.
So we do know...
we know there are guns.
Kids have them.
It's not like everybody's got a tiny bow and arrow.
I would have loved it if he's like,
thanks for the autograph.
Did he say, D'Club?
No, I didn't hear it.
Do you have that?
I, I, I, so everyone said it, so I wrote it down.
I was like, I think, I'm pretty sure he said, der club.
Do you think that's an improv,
or do you think Coppola was like,
the line is der club?
It's scene four.
You find me cruel, selfish, and unfeeling.
I am.
I work without caring what happens to either of us.
So go back to the club.
Right?
And stop the whole thing.
There it is.
Fine.
The head wag is everything.
That is pretty great.
The head wag says it all.
Declare.
Declare.
How was work today?
OK.
I think.
Now, I did something today.
Here's what I want to talk to you about, because I want to give it its due. I think now... I did something today.
Here's what I want to talk to you about because I want to give it its due.
When you saw this movie in the theater, there was a moment where someone...
I heard about this.
...was to walk in and do a line in the theater.
Okay?
They fix it in the video version.
Someone just pops up,
but it still is breaking the fourth wall
in the sense that we're watching a linear movie
and then all of a sudden,
we're watching a movie screen
and someone's standing up in front of the movie screen.
And so, what-
Wait, play that.
Okay, I will.
I'm gonna first play this.
I was in an active blackout for much of watching.
I have so little memory.
So you would be watching the movie, right?
I'd rather not be.
And then this would happen.
I would just stand up and go,
Mr. Catalina, you said that as we jump into the future,
we should do so unafraid.
But what if when we do jump into the future,
there is something to be afraid of?
And then he would answer me, and I would leave the theater.
That's it?
Yes.
That's the whole bit?
What's that meant to do?
I don't know!
But they couldn't figure out enough people to do it,
so a lot of the times what would happen is,
Adam Driver would be sitting,
staring at the audience in silence and then go, give his answer, because no one had prompted him.
So the audience had this uncomfortable moment of like, I feel weird now. But this is the scene,
I'll play that scene too, but it was such an odd idea,
but also so interactive, but yet not interactive,
because it doesn't make any sense in the movie.
I read somewhere when it premiered at Cannes,
and I think that this is what happened at Cannes,
that someone walked up and that moment happened,
but someone said the movie is both doing way too much and too little.
Yes.
And it's such a confounding experience of like there's so much in here and there's nothing.
It is the quintessence of neither nor.
Yes.
It is, it thinks it's a European art house tone poem,
and then it's also interested in investigating like time and art and architecture, all this
science and all this stuff, and then it's also not interested in any of that? I said it felt like I
was watching an acting class where two people, I can't even tell if they're talented because I
don't know the text, the text is bad, but it's like I guess they're doing the best job because
like I've seen people like this is a scene from a play that you've never heard of. And I'm like, okay, yeah, I guess I can't fault them.
It feels, you know what it feels like?
It feels like, you know, there was that rash of movies
of Shakespeare interpretations
that were put into modern context.
So it was a, we're gonna take Richard III,
but we're gonna put it in World War I.
We're gonna take this and ba-ba-ba.
This feels like it's that, but they were like, we're gonna put it in World War I. We're gonna take this and pa-pa-pa. This feels like it's that, but they were like,
we're gonna take not Shakespeare.
We're gonna kind of put it in a bunch of Roman stuff,
but it's also New York City, baby!
And it's also about politics.
Let's play that scene, too,
because I just want to go show you that scene, too.
This is the interactive moment of the film,
which I wish, maybe when
we buy it, we'll have the option to have the line. By the way, Laurence Fishburne does
the voiceover as voiceover and in real life too.
And sometimes he does it and sometimes he doesn't. Sometimes text comes on screen and
he reads every bit of it. Sometimes text comes on screen and it's just text on screen.
There's no rhyme or reason.
I don't know if he's telling me this story or not.
I don't know.
I don't know if this story is from his own fever dream.
Yeah.
I watched Laurence Fishburne in that scene, in the dear club scene, and I noticed that
he walked off camera and then he's only shown at the very end.
I'm like,
oh, this motherfucker got out of frame real quick.
Oh yeah.
Of course.
Although when he does come back in, I laughed so hard.
There are moments in this fucking thing
that made me laugh.
Oh yeah.
He comes back on screen and there's some weird space diorama
hanging from the ceiling and he...
I think it's pronounced diarrhea.
Lawrence Fishburne comes back in and just sort of resets
all of the little ornaments coming off.
And I just thought, wow, to let actors out there like this.
Hang in, like hanging out there.
Just trying to fucking stay alive in these seats.
Trying to effortlessly deliver lines like,
there are only two things impossible to stare at very long,
the sun and your own soul.
Wait, I know I can stare at the sun quickly,
but I can't look at my own soul at all.
Nevermind, stare at it.
I just wanna hit this one more time. Did Laurence Fishburne marry him and Sonny Hope
in the back of a car?
Okay.
Yeah.
So this is what I wanted to say.
I would say one of my top two performances in the movie
is by the Citroen car that they drive.
Oh, I love that.
It has more character than most of the people in the movie.
I thought the way that it redecorated itself for the wedding was quite beautiful.
Beautiful.
Beautiful.
Quite beautiful to look at.
By the way, who played Sunny Hope?
Because I thought she looked exactly like...
Vestra.
Yes.
It's Hailey Sims.
Yes, I thought so too.
Hailey Sims.
I thought we were supposed to make a connection between...
I thought as well they were meant to be somehow connected
and they weren't.
I have a very big idea.
I have a very big idea that just came up.
Oh my God.
This is a Megalopolis.
Megalopolis.
Type idea.
You did a shot of Megalon in the green room.
I'm ready for it.
And Paul said a number of times,
you gotta let these men cook.
So babe, just cook.
Let it.
You know what?
Turn our mics off.
Just Paul, give him a spot. Yeah, just let him cook. Let it... You know what? Turn our mics off.
Just Paul, give him a spot.
Yeah, just let him cook.
Back to those nuts.
Now, what if Sunny Hope was an alien that he fell in love with?
And when she died, it's not like that he found the Megalon in the ocean because that's where
it crashed. It's like she is
Megalon because she's an alien from that planet and that's why she is so intertwined with
the Megalon. That's why when he gets it on his face, he sees her, she is one, she gives
him the visions. She's like an alien race that's trying to like help our race become
more...
Okay. I don't mind that. It's certainly not in the movie. You're doing
You're doing a lot of work there help the movie sure that is categorically not present
But I want to be clear
Upon getting shot in the head Adam Driver is given a megalon
Treatments then yes ultimately make his head appear to be totally normal right he's shot through the eye shot through the eye
He then takes Megalon and I'm moving walkways with it
What are you doing? This is a medical breakthrough?
This this can cure so much and what he's doing with it is making moving walkways
What do you what is well? I, I think the Megalon was already,
it was like this, it was like,
we can use it for moving walkways,
but what if we also used it for gunshot victims?
Yes!
Like, so, I think they just found,
it's like George Washington Carver
found a lot of things for peanuts.
He also made a dress.
And it...
God, you are nuts.
Wait, what's going on? Are you okay, man?
Nut happy.
Wait a second, is this episode sponsored by nuts or something?
Big Peanut has got to me, people.
Is this, are we, is this festival sponsored by Big Nut?
Big Nut.
Planters.
That would be comedy fest.
That would absolutely be a thing that would advertise on podcasts.
Get Big Nut. Nut up. That would absolutely be a thing that would advertise on podcasts.
Get big, nut.
Nut up.
But I mean, but I think what we're saying is Megalon is a tool of an alien world.
Wouldn't that be so interesting to make a movie about that?
Nope.
But I mean, I'm just saying, even though the movie is not telling us it, that's what we
are supposed to believe.
It's not a material found on our planet.
I don't think so.
I don't think so, but I guess what I come back to is, where else is Megalon in Megalopolis
aside from the walkways?
Yes, and it's Vestra's dress is made of Megalon.
Only certain points though.
Because when she's singing that song, she's in a white dress and then at the end of the song she's like...
Well, I think that might be the Megalon looking like a white dress.
Got it.
Because the Megalon seems to be able to change its properties.
So you see it's moving walkways, it's dresses, it's gunshot victims, it's
everything. But yeah, I guess. You know that they went to Taylor Swift for that
part. I felt like they definitely went to Taylor Swift for that. For sure. I mean,
it seems like it's a yeah. I mean. Well, and how obsessed everybody was with the fact that she was a 16-year-old virgin?
That old man bought for $10 million.
$100 million!
I'm so sorry, Paul, to correct you.
$100 million to support her virginity?
That's what was so...
I had to tip my hat to her, though.
I really did, because I was like,
this bitch is onto something.
Like she's not getting money.
She's not raising funds for them to take her virginity.
She is raising funds for them to just sort of salute it.
Yeah.
Oh, oh, oh.
Oh, I thought.
For sure.
No, I thought the winner gets to marry her.
No, oh, I don't think, oh.
Did you, I thought the winner gets to marry. No. Oh, I don't think. Oh. Did you? I thought the winner.
Hang on.
We'll only hear from the architect in the balcony.
Do you think that she was supposed to marry whoever it was?
No. No, yes.
There's a there's a little bit confusion.
Let's see. Who says no?
OK, shut up. Time stop.
Who says yes?
Okay.
Interesting.
I thought, no, I thought everybody was supporting her virginity and then they play the sex tape
and then it's revealed she's a 23-year-old non-virgin and she's stuck on the Mack the
Knife half moon, terrified out of her mind in some sort of coliseum
where the wedding of the century is happening
and people are being murdered?
I don't know.
And she's just also like hustling during this wedding
and making a buck.
Yeah.
It's also like, why put a hat on a hat, right?
She's supposed to be a virgin.
This movie loves hats.
Oh my God.
Everybody's got a hat in this movie.
We have not talked about the scene,
and you know it was improvised, where Shia says,
pick up my hat, and then they all throw their hats,
and they all pick up their hats.
That was truly clown work at its best.
It was so good.
I was like, this is so funny.
My favorite character in the movie, full stop,
is Shia's sidekick, who we meet when he's the tuba player
in a parade band.
Shia's like, hey, hey, come here, come here.
And the guy's like drops his tuba and is like,
yeah, what do you want for the rest of the movie?
Yeah.
The tuba player is an essential member of Shia's crew.
What?
And Shia's crew...
What a glow up for the tuba guy.
Shia's crew all look a little bit like Shia.
One of them is Balthazar Getty, which is interesting.
Oh.
Oh.
But here's what Coppola had to say about Shia.
He is an actor who, this is the quote, deliberately sets up a tension between himself
and the director to an extreme degree.
And whose method was so infuriating and illogical,
it had me pulling my hair out.
He then compared the actor to Dennis Hopper
in Apocalypse Now.
So not an easy shoot for Shia. or at least for Francis Ford Coppola
because Shia is doing a lot. Oh is he? Oh I thought he was pretty measured.
See there are like that tuba player I would have loved the entire movie to be
about that man's journey. Yes like that's an arc. That's a character on an arc.
That's an interesting arc that I think I could understand.
Yes, rags to riches.
And is the tuba player the same one who decides to kill,
or he puts out the hit?
Yes.
He thinks he's killing Caesar.
He's also the character who, in the last,
in the third act, appears to have the character
from the Marvel
Universe bullseyes tattoo on his forehead.
That's what he had.
When did he get that?
And I was like, when did he become bullseye?
I think, I don't know.
I don't know what went on there.
One of my favorite moments was when, was when, so when Caesar, Catalina finds out that he's going to be a dad, and by the way, this is
often a trope in movies where men take so long to figure out this information.
It's like, it's so confounding to watch. It's like, sir, you were a part of this.
You have to have known this was a possibility. He takes a solid minute
and we watch his face and again it's so compelling because it's Adam Driver go through every
human emotion and land on your we're gonna have a baby. And I just you know again it's
a trope I see it in so many movies and it just delights me every time. The surprise.
But he is, you're right, he is so good at landing preposterous stuff, such as the scene
when they then, he and his beloved Julia, they meet with her parents, so now his soon-to-be
in-laws, and Giancarlo Esposito is her father, who is the mayor, who is his sworn
enemy.
He's Cicero and he is, they are at odds, they are enemies, they play cards, but for the
first half of the scene, Adam Driver's just carrying a casserole dish around, like an
old school casserole dish.
Like the one that was, yeah.
Not like an old Pyrex casserole dish or a Corningware casserole dish.
That's exactly it.
It's actually what it's the blue and white,
Corningware square, small size, right?
Casserole dish.
And I was like, now what the fuck is this about?
And why is he making it look so effortless?
I...
What's in the dish?
Nothing was in the dish.
What's in the dish?
Nothing was in the dish.
What was in the dish? What was in the dish? What's in the dish? Nothing was in the dish.
What was in the dish?
What was in the dish?
There was nothing in the dish.
There's so much.
There is so much here.
I mean, Saturnalia is Hanukkah, Christmas, New Year's.
Oh, it's all of it.
It's everything.
God, I forgot about that.
It's interesting because you were talking earlier about how...
It's also Halloween.
Everybody was encouraged to improvise and all of this,
and who is the true author of the movie?
You know, Copel has been writing it since the 90s.
People were... Actors were encouraged, right?
But I would say a full quarter of the movie
was written by Marcus Aurelius
and just quoted by Julia,
because she speaks in just Marcus Aurelius quotes,
for I'm going to say four minutes straight.
Absolutely.
It is in, I will say it is in WGA arbitration.
I was looking at here just like, so when he originally announced the film was in 1989,
he planned to move to Italy to work on two productions in the next five years.
And he called the film so big and complicated, it would seem impossible.
That's where it started in 1989.
And that's where it ended.
It's, by the way, true.
And by the way, so he went to Rome to make Megalopolis,
and a year later he released The Godfather Part Three.
What's interesting is like that it is a New York movie.
They talk about it being America.
It is not interested in being like Roman or Italian
or anything like that.
I think it's much more about, I think what it is,
honestly, if I'm really
looking at it, I'm saying this is Francis. Okay, well, if you're really looking at it.
Up until now, you've been looking at it rather obliquely. I mean, so if you've been looking
at it like through a bag of nuts. Yeah. Just like. I'm trying to get into, I'm trying to
go into that bag. You're looking at it through like eclipse glasses. I'm taking out all the
raisins of this trail mix and I'm gonna tell you what nuts are in here.
I think what he's trying to do was, I think originally he was talking about how the Roman Empire got corrupt and took this really beautiful society and it fell apart.
But then Trump came and he's like, I'm gonna do a politics version.
So he took the original idea and he's like, politics, right?
And then it gets really muddy and then it's like, because I think that there's a couple things at play and that's what it
feels like heavy-handed at point it's like it's like I'm a populist I'm for
the people but everybody is kind of like Trump at a certain point too because
it's like they're all kind of villains Shia is very Trump coded right yeah like
and there is a whole section that feels very J6.
Yes, yes, 100%.
But then I also feel like...
But I also feel like...
Okay, New York.
New York's like, I don't know about that.
We're on board for September 11th,
but J6 was cool, right?
But I also feel like the other person for the people is Adam Driver, right?
Adam Driver is like, I am for the people.
And then when he tells everybody, then they all get behind him because they hear his speech
right before he's getting arrested or maybe that was later.
God damn it, I forgot where.
But yeah, the end of the movie really happens very quickly.
Nobody's a good guy, right?
Everyone's a villain?
Yeah, because Adam Driver's a drunk and he's a mess and he's doing a lot of things.
I don't know, but is he a good guy?
I guess so.
He's got this alien...
No, I think everyone's a villain.
Yeah, except for the baby at the end.
Oh, yeah.
I'm sorry.
No, you know what?
No.
I'm so sorry, June.
The baby is a villain. I'm so sorry, June, the baby is a villain.
I'm putting the baby in the villain category.
I hate to disagree with you,
but that baby was a fucking asshole.
The baby is now the only person on the planet.
The baby, yes, the baby's too powerful.
I mean, how many years is the baby just like...
Just scrounging around for food.
Just waiting to learn the...
Little bits of milk.
Yeah, just like...
And like, what happens to the people frozen in time?
But also what I noticed was when they would be frozen in time,
time frozen, wind still blowing their stuff
all over the place, blowing their dresses,
so time has stopped, but the wind is still going.
Right, right, right, right.
You can't control nature, but you can control time.
I was very upset because at this point, I don't think we know or maybe we do know she knows she
can see him stop time. Yes, she knows. But she can't stop time. She cannot. She's a she's a
time stopping viewer, not a participant. She's a witness of time stoppers. But now at the end,
she will be stopped. She will be stopped by the baby or no, she will be stopped. She will be stopped by the baby or...
No, but at the end when he says freeze time, she stops too.
Or maybe she's pretending like Aubrey Plaza did
when she was a statue in the bedroom.
Let's go to the audience and see what they have to say.
No once does he stop time and be a creep
and look at boobs and stuff.
All right.
Come on.
Hi, how are you?
Good.
What is your question?
So you kind of touched on it, but the end with his speech, right before everyone in
the crowd basically wants to kill him.
Right.
And then when he's done with his speech, they're all behind him?
But like his speech meant nothing.
Right.
At that point, it would be really hard to get everyone back on board
because they hate him so much.
I know, yeah.
But that's how convincing,
that's how dumb you people are.
That's how stupid you are.
He says a bunch of words and you're all like,
yes!
Okay.
And honestly, that's why the movie needed to be longer.
Yeah. Well, that ending, I movie needed to be longer. Yeah.
Well, that ending, I was like, you're gonna, you're now, you're picking up the pace here?
Like, why? Why now? Like, this is, we should have had a moment.
Everyone's wearing great shirts out here. I'm not gonna comment on all the shirts.
You got a great shirt yourself there, sir.
They're all how to skim eight shirts. Thank you for wearing them.
Yes. Okay. And you have the notebook. You did it all. I love it. What's your question?
The question, well, it really was,
to June's point, who really was playing
a lot of these characters?
Have you guys ever seen characters fade in and out
out of the credits?
Because everybody had their characters named,
except for right at the end,
where the name title faded in and out of the Fixer.
Do you guys see that?
No, who was it?
You're saying that like the Fixer wasn't a real person?
Justin Hoffman's character didn't actually have a name.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
But right at the end, if you look,
the Fixer pops up right under his name
and fades in and out right before it does.
So maybe that's when we were being told
who that character was, what his role was, really.
Just right in the credits.
I applaud you for watching the credits, sir.
I do, too.
Sir, I applaud you.
The minute the movie went to credits,
I turned my brain off.
I died a small death.
Everyone, these guys have had their hands up very passionately.
Now you're pulling back from it.
No, all right, here we go. I came here because I...
Okay.
What do you got?
Okay, okay.
All right, here we go.
Did Julia pretend to be a sixth grader in their meet-cute?
Was that what happened?
Say it again.
Oh, yes, you're right.
So she sneaks into the office by pretending
to be a sixth grader, but he sees through that very quickly.
But I think...
She's also dressed like Red Riding Hood in that scene too.
I firmly believe there are many, many scenes
that were shot and are just missing
that are the connective
tissue for the absolutely bizarre nonsense that this movie does.
Fair enough.
At least we got to see Jason Schwartzman play the drums.
Loved it.
Loved it.
Jason Schwartzman.
I am in the balcony.
Watch out, Paul.
Watch out.
Be so careful. Hi. How are you? I am in the balcony watch out Paul watch out
Be so careful
Hi, how are you? So what's your name?
Our Mercer, what's your question? So at one point like on the mayor's dog I forget their name and then Caesar were like on the bed and they were doing like patty cake. Oh
Yeah
Like, Patty Cake? Oh.
Oh, yeah.
Do we think that was, like, before or after?
They did it.
Well, that makes me feel like,
do we think she is supposed to be a sixth grader?
Yeah. Like, was that after care, or was that, like, foreplay?
Like, what's going on there?
You know, there's parts of this movie
that you all are reminding me of
that I think I very intentionally tried to put away.
No, that scene was one of them.
This movie has such an unstructured Terrence Maliki and kind of tone poem vibe, but none
of it makes sense and none of it's interesting.
It's as if there's a million puzzle pieces on the floor and we all remember a handful.
I love a puzzle.
And together we push it all to you.
And I love a puzzle too. And what's your question? So they have like television
and obviously the like a Fox News type of thing. I'm just curious if this is
like a future type thing. Like where's all the cell phones and laptops and
things like that? The future is shockingly low tech.
Is it the future?
I don't know that this is the future.
It's not, it's an alternate reality in the past.
It's just new Rome.
I think it's the future.
I think it's futuristic.
I mean, I only know that because like there's so many lesbians out and about.
And so I have to imagine that that's the future.
I gotta say, I loved,
and I don't know why I didn't think I was going to,
I love Jon Voight in this.
I think that Jon Voight did levels
that I was surprised at.
He played drunk, he played old, he played archer.
But I do feel like he's doing a lot.
Like, I like when he's, like, flirting with...
You know, he's flirting with, uh, whatever name is Champagne Wow or Sham Wow.
Um...
Wow Platinum?
Wow Platinum.
I will say this.
The movie does look beautiful in many sequences.
Like, I was like, oh, this is...
I thought so, too.
I was confused that there was actually a Roman Colosseum doing Roman Coliseum things and one of the things was like
okay chariot race got it wrestling got it guys running through walls weird
don't get it don't think that that's a thing never heard about that looks cool
felt anachronistic obviously we had opinion about this movie but there are
people out there with a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions.
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As someone told me lately, everyone deserves second opinions.
And if I'm rating solo, at least I'm rating free.
My love for drop dead Fred Con Air and deep
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I'm gliding high with second opinion And soon I'll match them in Renown
And nobody in Amazon Not Jason June or even tall John is ever gonna bring me down
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Amazing! Amazing! That's it! Everyone go back to your seats.
That's it!
You're done! Get out of here! Great work!
You did it! You did what we needed to be done!
Normally we go to Amazon for five-star reviews, unfortunately.
There are no five-star reviews on Amazon.
There are, however, 175,000 reviews on Letterboxd,
and we went to the five-star reviews, of which there are 5%.
5% of 175,000 reviews. We went to the five-star reviews, of which there are five percent.
Five percent of 175,000 reviews.
Now, the most common rating, by the way, is two stars.
Okay, so here we go.
This is titled Portrait.
This was a cute movie, and the people who didn't understand it are just dumb.
I'm sorry, it's not even that hard.
Five stars.
Soup, Soup007 writes,
New York better welcome this in the next 20 years, bruh.
Caesar got a fucking crunch lab and shit, what the fuck?
Absolute fucking masterpiece of a film by FFC.
I don't care what anyone says,
sex, drugs, and Megalon, five stars.
Miju wrote, if I had 120 million and I was a film director,
I would also make a film about the destruction of New York
and the United States
and dedicate it to my late wife.
In my house, everything by the Coppola family is praised.
Here, it's a five-star film, and fuck the critics.
Anyone who's a fan of Coppola's Old Testament,
the Godfather trilogy, has to at least be happy
for the director's personal achievement.
I love you, Franz, Ford, Coppola, I love you.
What you do now stays forever, heart emoji.
Coops writes, like if you built a time machine
specifically with the intent of bringing Shakespeare
to the present day and asking him to write a script
set about a decade from now
inside of 20 minutes while high out of his mind.
And despite all of that,
the whole thing pretty much makes perfect sense.
I was on the film's wavelength from the start,
and I stayed there for the entire runtime,
one of the most sincere and optimistic films
I've seen all year. In
other words I'm a big fan. Caesar clearly took massive inspiration from the
virtual insanity music video during the design process. Oh I would love it if
when he's showing his in-laws the what moving walkway JK just walked out and
was like virtual insanity.
Shelby writes, to be fair, you have to have a very high IQ
to understand Megalopolis.
The humor is extremely subtle.
And without a solid grasp of Emersonian literature,
most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head.
The fans understand this stuff. They have the intellectual capacity
to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes.
To realize that they're not just funny,
they say something deep about life.
As a consequence, people who dislike Megalopolis
are truly idiots.
Five stars.
Here we go. Would you recommend this movie? who dislike Michaelopolis are truly idiots. Five stars.
Here we go. Would you recommend this movie?
Absolutely yes.
Yeah, it's something to see.
Thank you, New York.
You're the best, good night.
Eat shit.
That's all from New York.
We have a great t-shirt that we created that night.
Sex, drugs, and Megalon.
You can get that at teapublic.com slash stores slash HDTGM.
I love that shirt so, so much.
My book, Joyful Recollections of Trauma is available wherever. You can get your books,
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People that's it for today's show a big. thank you to our amazing How Did This Get Made team,
live on the ground in New York,
and also here in Los Angeles.
We will see you next time for Last Looks.
And by the way, if you have a comment about Megalopolis,
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