How Did This Get Made? - Miami Connection LIVE! w/ Chris Geere (HDTGM Matinee)

Episode Date: November 11, 2025

Actor Chris Geere (You're The Worst) joins Paul, June, and Jason to discuss the 1987 martial arts film Miami Connection. LIVE from Largo at the Coronet in Los Angeles, they talk about the music band o...f ninjas, the connection to Miami, orphan beach, and so much more. (Ep. #171 Originally Released 09/15/2017) • We're coming to Philadelphia on 11/8! Go to hdtgm.com for tix, merch, and more• Have a Last Looks correction or omission? Call 619-PAULASK to leave us a voicemail!• Submit your Last Looks theme song to us here• Join the HDTGM conversation on Discord: discord.gg/hdtgm• Buy merch at howdidthisgetmade.dashery.com/• Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of Trauma• Shop our new hat collection at podswag.com• Paul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheer• Paul’s YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheer• Follow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer• Subscribe to Enter The Dark Web w/ Paul & Rob Huebel: youtube.com/@enterthedarkweb• Listen to Unspooled with Paul & Amy Nicholson: unspooledpodcast.com• Listen to The Deep Dive with June & Jessica St. Clair: thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcast• Instagram: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & @junediane• Twitter: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & msjunediane  • Jason is not on social media• Episode transcripts available at how-did-this-get-made.simplecast.com/episodesGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's a movie about a band of ninjas. No, literally, like a music band of ninjas. Yeah, that have to defeat Miami drug lords so they can play at Orlando's number one music club. Fuck it, I've said too much. We saw Miami Connection, so you know what that means. We made... What's the naked grove, baby in his belly?
Starting point is 00:00:29 Rock a wine, stone vest while whipping Justin to Kelly. Or maybe see a burlash show with Nick Crowe and take a boat with speed who hitting cruise control. Jayman, Big Paul, and the beautiful Jew. Gonna take you from the groove all the way to the room. Ran the games and street fire that helped to blow off steam. Just a sucker plush the odd life of Timothy Green. Sharp Nittle to Bird Demick, how we stand a lot.
Starting point is 00:00:50 They're calling in the badass and he's on the line. Cranking 88 minutes because they cool as ice. Because a bad gym, Barney looking kind of nice. Paul and June getting literal. Jason is getting laid. June is making sure all the monkey shots getting paid. They're judged a bunch of movies while they're making the grade. Here's a real question for you. How did this get made? Hello, people of us.
Starting point is 00:01:15 Hello, people of Largo. We are live here in Los Angeles. At Largo, our L.A. home, the amazing Largo at the Cornette. and we have a great show for you tonight. Continuing our fascination with ninjas, we are talking about Miami Connection. I would argue, the best movie with martial arts in it ever. Joining me, as always, are my two co-hosts.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Please welcome Jason Manzukas. What's up, jerks? Wow. Welcome, Jason. Wow, we really did it this time. You are welcome, America. For every piece of shit that we have made you watch, this is...
Starting point is 00:02:17 This is a triumph. We have just thrown you a scrap of real meat. I mean, enjoy it, like a choice, cut. I had first rented this movie, had to stop midway through, and then when I went back to the screen where it said, do you want to continue the rental?
Starting point is 00:02:35 I said, no, I want to fucking buy it. We should all own this movie. 100%. Wow, we. So much fun. This is maybe one of the best movies we've ever done. And, you know, let's see how much
Starting point is 00:02:54 we can get through to talk about. And there is so much to talk about. Oh, God, is there ever? Oh, God, there are monologues, there are... There's so much in this movie! So... Not to mention, legit, the greatest soundtrack of any movie I've ever heard.
Starting point is 00:03:16 I want these songs playing now. The music is, like, legitimately catchy and good. From the minute they're on stage, These guys are undeniable. It's just oats, and it's great. I will say that this movie is full of celebrity doppelgangers. We'll get into all that. Joining me also, as like I said, my other...
Starting point is 00:03:45 Is one of them giant Michael Phelps? Can we just call one of them Giant Michael Phelps? A hundred percent, I would request that we have to. I mean, that is some sort of Michael Phelps Frankenstein action. To me, the bad guy also reminded me of that sleazy dude from Diehard who was like, Bobby, bough! That guy, who's Elliot, who does the cocaine.
Starting point is 00:04:13 So, um, it's so good. Joining me also tonight, Miss June, Diane Rayfield. Careful, careful. Exposed wires. This would never fly. This is a very dangerous. I know. I meant to unplug it, but I got so excited with the pre-show.
Starting point is 00:04:46 June. Oh. One of the things that upset me the most about this movie was I didn't get to watch it with you because we, we experienced a blackout last night. You guys drank to the point of unconsciousness? It's real Virginia Woolf at our house. Wait, the movie, who's afraid of Virginia Woolf?
Starting point is 00:05:10 No, Virginia Woolf. Yeah. Okay. I'm Virginia Woolf, she's Virginia Slim. And... Yeah, we watched it separately. And I did feel watching it. Now, look, sometimes I have a hard time watching these movies.
Starting point is 00:05:33 I've said that before. I'll say it again. And this was one where I really felt I had a limited time to watch it. And I thought, you've got to rewind. You've missed something so important. And because usually I'll ask Paul, but you. you weren't there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:49 And a couple times I did rewind. And I... Did it help? Not at all. Not at all. And now I think after watching the trailer, I didn't miss a thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:03 I didn't miss a thing. No, I know. It's very confusing, but fantastically simple. Well, I would argue that the ratio of unimportant scenes are matched by important scenes. Like, there is an equal distribution of scenes that matter to the plot. There are
Starting point is 00:06:22 multiple instances of like nine plus minute scenes. Oh yeah. That's unheard of. It's some very cutting edge indie shit that we're watching. Oh yeah, and there's a tremendous amount of ADR just trying to sew this movie together.
Starting point is 00:06:40 I have a different take on it. I don't think that they had a good sound person. I feel like they were like, oh. We shot this we can't hear a word. Just come back and do it all again. Well, we are very excited about our guest tonight. He is in the hit FX show.
Starting point is 00:06:58 You're the Worst, which premieres September 6th. Please welcome Chris Geer. First ever... First ever costume guest. For those listening at home, Chris is... Chris is rocking the... Oh, check the back.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Check the back. Oh, wow. The back says... Can you see that? It says Miami Dreaming. Miami Dreaming. I wondered when I was ever going to wear this and then this opportunity came around.
Starting point is 00:07:37 It's amazing. Headband, fingerless gloves, and we are so excited to talk to you. So, did you ever hear about this movie? I'd never heard about it. No. but I have to thank you for introducing me to what is, like you say,
Starting point is 00:07:54 a movie that I believe everyone should have, yes. Yeah, it defies expectations at every step of the way. We'll obviously get into it, but the connection to Miami is something that I can really relate to in that I have also
Starting point is 00:08:15 I have also been there once for a short period early on. Why is this movie called Miami Connection? What is being connected there? By the way, I would argue it doesn't need to be called Miami Connection
Starting point is 00:08:35 because it takes place in Orlando. Oh, yeah. The entirety of this group is in Orlando. The first scene is somewhere in Miami. Yeah, pointless drug scene. Yeah, the drug scene in which It was like the village people Of bad guys
Starting point is 00:08:49 Every time Cowboy hat bad guy Like 80s bad guy Biker bad guy And ninjas of course Oh yeah And since when is there a guy Who wears an all white ninja
Starting point is 00:09:02 outfit Like that guy I feel like It would be super noticeable In the rafters of a building They meet for that drug deal And there's a dude in a straight up White Ninja's outfit that's the opposite of being a ninja.
Starting point is 00:09:18 You're calling so much attention to yourself. That's like the height of ninja narcissism. It's like, no, I don't want to be silent and faceless in the shadows. Well, it's funny because the beginning, before I watched the movie, I said we watched probably about two minutes of it before the blackout.
Starting point is 00:09:37 We watched two minutes together. This whole previous story now seems like a lie. No, it's all true. There is a blackout. out. It happened two minutes into our viewing, and I said to Paul, and I was very upset. I said, is this a ninja movie? So disappointed. Still feeling the pang of Ninja Terminator, which is another great one, Chris. What Ninja Terminator did to me was so, I'm not recovered. I feel I've been traumatized
Starting point is 00:10:04 by that movie. And once I realized like, uh-oh, I think this has something to do with ninjas, I felt so triggered. my body going to that place of like I have to watch a million ninja fight scenes that I don't understand. I fucking hate ninjas. I hate them. And so to realize early on that it was a ninja movie, but then you told me it's not that kind of ninja movie. And to your credit, it wasn't that kind of movie. Very rarely do we get to see ninjas with extracurriculars. Yeah. And motorbikes.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Yeah, they were a motorcycle ninja band. In some ways, it was my kind of ninja movie. It also posits a world in which fucking Orlando is overrun with ninja gangs. That's what I'm trying to wrap my head. Why? I'm like, okay, maybe a city the size of Orlando has one prominent ninja gang. This has multiple nymphs. ninja gangs, one of which is an aspiring new wave band.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Who are legit, great. Here's the thing, guys, drop out of college, stop being ninjas, just focus on this band. They're trying, again, like I said in the opening, they're trying just to be a band. Yeah. These drug lords are after them, not for ninja stuff, they're just a band.
Starting point is 00:11:34 That's true. Oh, it's just because the sister. Just because the sister is dating giant Michael Phelps. But why does that matter? Why does that matter? Because the little hairy dude was like, no, no, no. By the way, he's not just hairy.
Starting point is 00:11:49 He's like... He's like... Condensed Harry. Yeah. There's hair at a density level. It's so upsetting. He is like a boiled wool sweater on his entire body.
Starting point is 00:12:01 That's what he's... To me... He's like a close-knit sweater. I was thinking of like Captain Caveman from the old, like, Flint's, just shaved in a couple more places. Or if you took, like,
Starting point is 00:12:16 I'm trying to think of, like, a normal proportioned, tall, hairy man, but compacted. Yes, condensed, condensed. So there's, like, more follicles per square inch of body. You know what I mean? I feel like, for every, honestly, for every poor,
Starting point is 00:12:34 or, like, a place where you could put one follicle for him, there was, like, 10. Okay, so you know how like a chia pet comes with the thing? What if you put all the seeds on a much smaller thing, right? It'd look pretty crazy. That's what this guy is. So he's just upset because his sister's dating someone? I think he's, listen, I think he's projecting his anger over being so hairy.
Starting point is 00:13:02 And so short onto the fact that his sister's with giant Michael Phelps. And their proportion. His personality is all off. The scene where they're walking, like, with his... He's, like, draped over her, like, an ill-fitting coat. What's going on? That's one of the only times where he's got his shirt on as well, rather than... Just like a towel around his neck.
Starting point is 00:13:29 He's got one of those very long trunks. I feel like he's wearing a trench coat in the scene where he picks her up, but he's so tall that the trench coat only can. comes up to his waist. What is going on with them sexually? You can see why she was so attracted to him due to his moves, you know, his moves when she's in the classroom,
Starting point is 00:13:49 and he comes in, he's doing all this, like, winking and nodding. He also enters a very clouded classroom, and he's like, hey, come here, like, as if there's not a million people, like, there's like a full classroom in session. Like, come here, hey, yeah, all right, hey. And she thinks he's fucking.
Starting point is 00:14:08 I mean, I get it. He's dynamite in the pool, but. By the way, that is a swimmer's body. Like, that's a body that belongs only in water. I've got to be honest. Do we know for sure that's not? I don't. I wouldn't dare say that.
Starting point is 00:14:29 I'm not sure. It may be prove me wrong, Michael. No, she also, I don't know if anyone else had this problem, but she, to me, looked different in every year. scene. I could not figure out. Especially early on. I didn't realize that this person
Starting point is 00:14:44 was the same person. Band hair and school hair. Was she even in the first scene? I felt like she was just a group before the band and then in the next scene she's the lead singer. By the way, the treatment of her as a female character in this movie throughout
Starting point is 00:15:02 is problematic to say the very weak. What are you talking about? In the first scene, she doesn't play an instrument at all. She's just hopping around the stage. That's why I thought she was a groupie. I thought that she was brought up on stage by the lead singer to like kind of like... But then why isn't she a part of this band and their aspirations and their ninja training?
Starting point is 00:15:24 She kind of becomes the lead singer at a certain point. But you're right, she has no function in the ninja portion. Wait a second, I just realized... Or in like any of the conversations they have about how they want to build the band and go on a tour to all of the countries that their parents came. that I mean I could talk about that
Starting point is 00:15:43 that scene conservatively for three hours I mean this guy this guy has only those lines in this scene
Starting point is 00:15:53 talks not before and not after I want to play the scene and I just had a realization of why these ninjas may actually be after this band so if I forget to remind me here
Starting point is 00:16:03 stick with us after the clip So Mark, how do you feel about putting some board breaking you into the act? Sure. Why not? We could write another Tequando song, and after Tom does one of his guitar solos, we could all break boards. Jack could do a drum solo. How about it, Jack? I'd love to help you write that song, John,
Starting point is 00:16:23 but there's no way I'm going to break any boards in that club. I don't even want us to play there anymore. Why? Because that other man jumped us the other night? Yeah, because of Jeff, too. He's in there every night. This damn gang, selling stupid cocaine. Don't worry about Jeff. If he bothers us anymore, I'll make sure he regrets it.
Starting point is 00:16:44 What you think about a tour? What kind of tour? It would be a world tour. But what would make it special is that we play in each other's countries, you know, like finding our roots. You mean we're gonna play in Ireland? Right. While we're in Europe, we'd visit Italy. You know, Tom's home country.
Starting point is 00:17:00 We'd visit all the countries where our parents came from. Korea? Ireland We'd play in Israel That's where my parents are from I didn't realize these people The 7 is really an international band Right
Starting point is 00:17:18 Wherever we'd go We'd visit the local Taekwondo schools We'd promote peace and goodwill I think we could take a little time out for dinner While we're trying to save the world Oh That scene is amazing And they're very bad bookers for a world tour.
Starting point is 00:17:37 I mean, some expensive flights. I don't know where to begin with this. I mean, they make a big point in this movie over establishing that everybody in the band is an orphan. Yes. Oh, well, that's just dropped. That's dropped in a scene where... The guy says he's looking for his father.
Starting point is 00:17:55 And they're like, wait a second. We're all orphans. Like, that doesn't mean that you don't have a father. But it is a strange thing. Because it seems as though that's how they found each other. Yes. Through their orphan identity. Yes.
Starting point is 00:18:11 And also, like, they all, I think, go to college together, right? Yeah, UCF. Okay, so that's a question. Then, too, like, what did they put up a sign that said, looking for band members, bass, drums, keyboards, must, like, these bands and be an orphan? Like, must have no living parents. And no taekwondo. and international.
Starting point is 00:18:35 It's a lot of things that you need to know to be in this band. Because they've got a lot going on. By the way, that actor whose parents are from Israel he truly seems like, and I don't mean to be cruel, but it seems like he's acting under duress.
Starting point is 00:18:52 That's something, and he doesn't want to be there. I would not be surprised to find out that he had been abducted and forced to make this movie. Well, let me just, like, throughout the podcast, I'll drop a little.
Starting point is 00:19:03 little bit of knowledge about this movie on you. And one of the things about it is the lead actor, the director, the guy who is, you know... Y. K. Kim. Yes. Y.K. Kim. He plays Mark. Mark. He's also 45 years old.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Mark is an amazing Taekwondo star. He came here from Korea. And they said that what he did to the United States was he like, he made like the McDonald's of Taekwondo like he franchised out
Starting point is 00:19:36 Taekwondo all around Florida specifically Orlando and when he was making this movie one he never had to get permits because everyone in Orlando loved him so much he could shoot wherever he wanted and two he used all of his students in the movie. So they're not
Starting point is 00:19:52 none of them are actors, they're just his students Yeah, yeah So how did Giant Michael Phelts get in the movie? Well I mean Giant Michael Phelps is probably forced to ease he's so good at swimming you've got to do an extracurricular to kind of bounce it out.
Starting point is 00:20:05 What about Jim, though? Jim doesn't do taekwondo. Oh, so maybe Jim was one of the guys who got it through an audition, straight up audition. Guess who was the casting director on this movie? Who was it? It was Y.K. Kim. Story by Y.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Story by him. He was the casting director, writer, and producer, along with the other guys who were also associate producers, production supervisor, lyricists for all the songs. It was a, you know, it was a one-man band this movie. YK. Kim also came in to direct the final scene of the film.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Oh, he didn't direct it? He did not direct it. He just directed the final scene. The jungle sequence? No. The hospital sequence. Because when it screened, and I want to make sure I get this right, when it's screened, I want to say in Cann.
Starting point is 00:20:59 I feel like that's wrong. No. when it screened in can when it won the palm door yep when it screened in can in 1987 what's happening right now what's going on
Starting point is 00:21:20 did it just screen like I have more information to drop we'll move on and we'll get back to something when it's screen in can someone told him the ending was a bummer that Jim died and he's like well we got to reshoot the ending so him and a very skeleton crew just went in there
Starting point is 00:21:34 and shot that final scene where they took a young man and put some white talk about it and made him an older man. How crazy was that? And all of them miraculously healed from the events of an hour ago. Jim's...
Starting point is 00:21:50 Jan found shirts. Jim's dad is conservatively 15 years younger than Jim. You could not... The man playing Jim's dad is arguably 16 years old wearing old man makeup. Well, Jason, I will again say, old man makeup is a much more of that. I'm sorry, gray in his hair.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Yeah. This is wild. This is the reshoot scene. Doctor, how was my son? Jim was extremely fortunate. The wounds weren't as deep as we initially thought. He did lose a lot of blood, but there was very little internal damage. Oh, thank God.
Starting point is 00:22:32 When can we see him? I'll hear me all shortly. I'm going to leave him under your care tonight. He needs plenty of rest. If you have any problems, just give me a call. Thank you, doctor. Your being here has meant a lot to you. Shaking hands for so long.
Starting point is 00:22:49 This guy was just stabbed in the gut, screamed, and stabbed in the gut in such a violent way. He is being sent home on his own recognizance now. Like that night. You're not even sent home on the same day. I love this movie. I want to talk about the bad guy gym,
Starting point is 00:23:15 where all the bad guys just lift weights. Oh, Jim. Where it's like, it looks like a gym that you might go and work out in, except all the bad guys in town are there, just working out. Well, let's just like maybe just for the lay of the land, just go over, All the different groupings, right? Okay, great. So you have the band ninjas.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Sound dragon. Right, you got Sound dragon. Then you got the hairy guy and his team. Is his name Jeff? Yes. Yes. Okay, you've got Harry Jeff. Jeff, who is Jane's brother.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Who's Jane's brother? They also have another sibling, but we'll get to that. Oh, yeah. They do? A lot of questions there. By the way, the story of what happened to their parents is insane. Okay, that's. Do you not know the siblings, Jeff, Jane?
Starting point is 00:24:02 and Yoshito. I know them really well. What happened to their parents, so she says her dad left her mom when she was like seven years old. Giant Michael Phelps, who is her boyfriend, says to her,
Starting point is 00:24:22 so what's a big family situation? What's that whole deal? Well, first of all, he calls her out of class in a very flirtatious way to be, come on, come on, let's have fun. Hey, so we never talked about your family. Give me the lowdown.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Like that was the fun. I've actually transcribed that little bit. June, do you want to read with me? Please. Right, so you play the part of Jane, I shall be John. Great. I have a brother, as a matter of fact. If it wasn't for him, I wouldn't be going to this nice school
Starting point is 00:24:50 or staying in this nice dorm I'm staying in. That's really nice of him. Except for one thing. I don't really like him. What? You don't like you. your own brother, why? Well, I can't really explain it.
Starting point is 00:25:06 I just don't like him. Unseen. Remember explaining anything else? Brilliant. I'm glad we cleared that out. Hearing you guys do it, bring it. It's crazy. I would legit pay for a shot-for-shot remake
Starting point is 00:25:22 of this movie starring the two of you. Oh, my God. So the way she describes what happened to her parents and how they're orphaned is that her dad left when she was seven, her mom died immediately after he left, and then immediately after that, her dad died. Rough year. Rough year.
Starting point is 00:25:44 And it sounds just like, wow, that... If you're that dad and you've left your... If you've left your wife and kids, and then she dies right away, and then you die right away, it's like, wow, I really hope it was worth it. I really hope it was worth it. Yeah. For those final years to be just full of turmoil.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Anyway. So we got, all right, so we got Jim. Right, so we got our band ninjas. We got our gym ninja. No, they're not ninjas. They're like the bikers. The hairy guys team? Yeah, they're bike.
Starting point is 00:26:20 They're not ninjas. They're like thugs, I feel like. Okay. They're like just tough guys. And then there's the, then there's a group of also biker ninjas who are the higher guys. That's the guy who lives in Miami.
Starting point is 00:26:32 They're the cocaine guys. They're the cocaine guys. So that's the other contingent. And then there's another set of bad guys, which is another band that we've never seen play. I was confused by it. I don't understand this. Were they actually a band?
Starting point is 00:26:47 Well, that guy, so one guy is the club. The guy with the gun, right? The guy, it's my favorite scene in the whole movie. We don't have it as a clip where two guys stand next to each other and are screaming at each other from the moment one. see the spit flying out of their mouth. And so one of that guy, that guy's in a band. He's like, how can you not bust me in a band?
Starting point is 00:27:08 I don't like your band anymore. Well, all right, no, no. Like that's the whole scene. And so that guy, the guy who was in the band, goes to Jim and is like, go, Jeff. Hairy guy? Jeff, Harry guy. Goes to Harry guy.
Starting point is 00:27:25 He's like, kill that band. And then. But Jeff was on. already doing it because giant Michael Phelps is Stenkel blasting his sister and then if you do that we'll give you all of our earnings
Starting point is 00:27:39 all the earnings not a percentage yeah not a percentage all of it so they're now working at let's not be around the bush in a bar for free for free I'm sorry
Starting point is 00:27:55 so wait but why does Jeff want to kill Michael Phelps Because he's blasting his sister. But that's the only... So, God, what did happen between the two of them? Because Harry Guy was like, I don't want you dating this second-rate musician. He has...
Starting point is 00:28:11 He's like, yeah, I fucking do drug deals on the side. I don't want you associating with musicians. He's looking out for his sister. He's like, focus on school, do your classes. Don't get distracted by this nonsense in this guy. Never see him again. There's school, by the way, which came in fourth place. And they're like, hey, good.
Starting point is 00:28:30 news everybody we came in fourth place and then the computer teacher walks around the good job good job nice circle nice circle nice circle and that's too like how he was like weirdly touching the women's shoulders as he walked by that whole scene made me feel nauseous oh so here's my theory on why I think they want to kill the band or why people get because the band is revealing plot points of the cartel because they all right they don't they sing the song as Through song? Bikers by day, ninjas by night,
Starting point is 00:29:03 steal all your cocaine. Wasn't that? Oh no. They found us out. Yeah. They're penning a lyric. So you think they're writing like social issue
Starting point is 00:29:12 documentary like songs that are exposing the crime syndicate? That would be amazing. I mean, their songs were pretty much exposing
Starting point is 00:29:23 the underbelly of Miami. Are we going to talk about the beach scene? Oh. Are we going to talk about the beach scene? the beach sequence. How many times do people walk up to other people
Starting point is 00:29:35 and just walk up to strangers and say, can I get a kiss? Also, I have a quick question. Can you do that? Do you think there were any release forms involved when the camera just went around the beach? No, no one. No one was in anything.
Starting point is 00:29:53 I think this falls under YK Kim can do anything in Orlando. Yeah, you got, but here's what I found. Here's what I found most disturbing about that montage. It starts off, you know, the band is driving on the beach and they're like gawking at girls. Like, you know, it's like, girls of bikinis, girls in bikinis, girls in bikinis.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Old person on a scooter. Ooh, child. Young child. Kids. It's like the images become more. And when you juxtapose the obviously meant to be sexualized kind of buns and boobs on the beach with just shots of children.
Starting point is 00:30:28 It's terrible. What is going on? I couldn't believe also that they set up our good guys this way. Yeah. Oh, just, oh, just predators. Walks up to a girl and is like, hey, can I get a kiss?
Starting point is 00:30:43 He is pushed to the ground where he lands in another girl's cleavage, then rolls around on a bunch of girls who appear to just have a tickle fight with him. So upsetting. And that is his punishment for being a creep. And the most upsetting shot, though, was when I think one of the
Starting point is 00:31:01 girls is, a girl in a bikini is like biking or roller skating passed, I think one of our guys and he's sitting down with like a water gun. Does anybody else remember this? Like a oozy water gun. This is it. He sprays water at her. This is the shot where they...
Starting point is 00:31:17 Yeah. That was it. We just saw it. Yeah, I don't think that's one of our guys that. Childs kids. By the way, Paul, can you rewind a little bit? Like, here we are. Here we are. Yeah. Okay. Oh, here we are, summer, summer having a crazy time. We're just friends, just friends.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Buns and brews down at the beach. This guy's wearing a hat, just oats. Bonds and friends. Bonds and friends, plus a creep, driving down the boardwalk. Kids alone. Kids alone at the beach. These kids are lost. Kids are selling their bodies.
Starting point is 00:31:56 What's wrong? Just guys hanging out. Attacking women sexually. Just Oates wants a kiss pushed into ladies' boobs. This movie's amazing. The other movie about the kids living under the pier, though?
Starting point is 00:32:13 That's a sad movie. By the way, don't put a shot after those shots of grown women in bikinis. How dare you cut to a shot of a little girl also in a bikini showering? That's really disturbing. It was, it took me,
Starting point is 00:32:29 But it was like... None of those children have parents. It's an orphan beach. It's an orphan beach. Oh, that's true. This might just be orphaned beach. You're right.
Starting point is 00:32:41 But, it's a theme. When this guy falls on the girls, he exists on those girls for such a long time. Yeah, he knew exactly what he was doing. Oh, yeah. Even with giant Michael Phelps tries to pull him off,
Starting point is 00:32:57 he is like flailing around. as if he's still being attacked. Well, because he's pretending that he is. I guess so. Also, when you get to the credits later on and they're showing each character individually, that's the bit that they show for that character, him just being slapped by women.
Starting point is 00:33:18 That was his only... Now, as disturbing as everything we just described was, none of it comes close to how the beach scene ends, which is our... two lovers in this film. In a beach chair in the ocean.
Starting point is 00:33:36 So good. Slow kissing as if they've never kissed before. No, not if they've never kissed each other, as if they've never had a kiss. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:48 It's just a quick peck, though, isn't it? Oh, no. We don't even need sound for it. We just see just a slow... It's like short, these weird short kisses. There's like no, there's no opening of the mouth. They never open the mouth and get into any kind of rhythm.
Starting point is 00:34:12 It's just like. No, it's like these hard, fast, slow, long quick. It feels like when you put peanut butter like on a horse's tongue to make them like talk in a movie or something like that. They both had, like, they're trying to get the peanut butter out of their own mouth. The thing that I think about that scene, too,
Starting point is 00:34:35 is, like, clearly they're like, oh, we want to do, like, a from here to eternity kind of scene. Like, you're rolling around on the beach. That didn't work for whatever reason. Like, let's put the beach chair in the ocean. And you'll just kind of be jumping up out of the... Like, it's the most... I've never seen that ever.
Starting point is 00:34:52 It's like Y.K. Kim as well, said, you know, we've got it from one... side, got it from one angle, I don't think we've got enough in that nine seconds. We'll flip to the other side so we can get another perspective. It is. It's a weird, man.
Starting point is 00:35:09 He's, you know, like I said, a giant, and she's teeny tiny, so there's a lot of it that's really weird. I just didn't care for it physically. Oh. Well, there's also, in the clip we were playing before where
Starting point is 00:35:25 they're driving down the boardwalk and Just Oates is posing and stuff. There is somebody who has the line hold on. He goes, they don't make buns like that down at the bakery. Which made me really excited. To me, the ad-libs or the things
Starting point is 00:35:43 that kept the scenes like alive were my favorite part because it was like just these little moments where it would be almost repetition of it. Like there's one moment where they're getting excited about something in the apartment that they all live in. And I want to talk about that for one year.
Starting point is 00:36:01 And he goes, hey, he's like, hey, hey, quiet down. You're going to wake the neighbors. And then, like, it switches and goes, like, hey, you're going to wake the neighbors. Like, it was almost like, it was. I do that thing. I feel like this happens in the room, too, where every character has to have a response to something. Like, when Jim is opening his letter from the Defense Department. Oh.
Starting point is 00:36:23 And he's taking a while to open, and every character is like, You should open your letter. That's a letter you should open. But really, open a letter. This is a letter. We want to hear what is in that letter. Like, everyone has something to say about this moment. And it's testament to that they are such good friends
Starting point is 00:36:39 and they're invested in each other's lives. And they're also doing that thing that we all do when we're hanging out with our friends at home as we take our shirts off and put a towel over our shoulder. Because throughout the movie, all of them are shirtless with a shoulder towel. Like, that's a dude hanging out at home. And Jim has never zipped up his flies. Jim's pants are slightly undone at any given point.
Starting point is 00:37:01 I also like when they got mail another time and Hall or was it, Hall or Oates, which one is it again? Oates. Oates. Oates is like, oh, right, what we got here. This is a piece of mail, and this is a piece of mail, and this is a piece. No, and nothing is necessary in that scene. It's just like watching a person hand out mail
Starting point is 00:37:26 That has no consequence to anything. As if he doesn't understand conceptually how male works, that each of those is for one of the people in the house. It has not just arrived for the home, the home's male. Holy cow. The first, okay, I'm just going to dive straight into Jim's story looking for his father. Amazing.
Starting point is 00:37:56 An Oscar-winning performance for Jim. This is a staggering monologue that I found to be hypnotic. I watched it many times. I found a clip of it on YouTube just so I could watch it only a bunch. It's phenomenal. Jay's do you want to take a crack at it
Starting point is 00:38:25 and then we can see how you stack up. Let's see how we, let's, yeah, I feel like we all have it. Let's, let's, let's give it a, let's share you with, let's give it a whirl. Oh boy, okay. Jim, do you have yours there? I've got it, I've got it. All right, hold on that.
Starting point is 00:38:37 So, so, okay, so wait a second, why Kay Kim says, wait, I thought we were all orphans, right? Yes. And then Jim goes, that's my father. He walks out of the scene, yeah. We get a spotlight. We should be the other three. to be the other three.
Starting point is 00:38:56 And bearing in mind, the three in the background is the fine line between trying to cry and trying not to laugh. That's what I did. My mother was Korean, and my father was black American. She gave me this picture when she was real sick. I was only nine years old.
Starting point is 00:39:19 They say that they loved each other and were real loyal. And real. happy. But then when he finished military duty, he left. And we never saw him again. She told me to find him, but I didn't like him because he left us. But I knew one day when I grew up, I'd find him where he was dead or alive. I sent a couple letters to the defense Department. And nothing happened.
Starting point is 00:40:01 And scene. And scene. Oh, my God. Now, that was a one, no, wasn't it? It was a one take. I can't follow that. I mean, that's good. He does really deliberate, though.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Oh, there's tears. He steps forward into a spotlight in a movie. Well, by the way, I'm going to say this. I don't, I think he just found this, like, there are scenes in this movie where people are reading books in the complete dark. I feel like lighting in this movie was a mystery. Like the man who shot fire out of his hands
Starting point is 00:40:39 and then never returned in the credits. In the credits of the movie, he shoots fire from his hands. We never see that again. Um, okay, I thought for sure, yeah, well, at the end, they'll shoot fire. Uh, well, just take a taste of how Jim does it. Oh. This looks like your brother.
Starting point is 00:41:00 I didn't know you have a brother. It's my father. What? This is your real father? Yes, it is. You sure? I didn't know you had a father. I thought we are all, all fans.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Father. Some of not wearing shirts. My mother was Korean. And my father was black American. She gave me this picture and she was real sick. I was only nine years old. They say that they loved each other and they were real loyal. He was glad.
Starting point is 00:41:52 But then when he finished military duty, he left. And we never saw him again. She told me to find him. But I didn't like him because he left us. But I knew one day when I grew up, I'd find him Whether he was dead or alive. I sent a couple letters to the first apartment. Nothing happened.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Can't be the real thing. Why K. Kim in the last minute just kind of creeps really slowly behind him. Like completely masked. Why Kay Kim's character throughout the movie is learning stuff about his friends at every turn. In the previous scene, he learns that the other,
Starting point is 00:42:55 the drummer is of Israeli heritage. He's like, I didn't know that. Like, he doesn't know anything about these people. He knows that they all like grapes. Yep. By the way, though, so we're, how many minutes into this podcast? We've done a lot.
Starting point is 00:43:14 What is this movie about? Wow. What is it about? What's about following your dreams and your heart? And then, you know, sometimes people want to stop you with force and you have to be strong enough to get out there and you can't be under the thumb of your drug dealing brother. You've got to make your own decisions and that's it.
Starting point is 00:43:38 And also, only through the elimination of violence. That's what it is. Can we achieve world peace? Despite the movie being solely violent. The heroes... After a 20-minute fight scene in the jungle. The heroes of the movie are murderers. Murderers.
Starting point is 00:43:59 Are unrepenting murderers. Michael Phelps kills his girlfriend's brother, and she's like, nah, that's okay. Yeah. And he basically chucks it up to, like, my bad? Actually, I've transcribed that one as well. Oh, fantastic. I'll be John, you'd be Jane.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Yeah. Okay. I'm so sorry about what happened. I felt so bad about that. Bear in mind, he's talking about killing her brother, which happened just a few hours ago. That's not your fault, I understand. See, we had to do it.
Starting point is 00:44:44 We had no choice. understand it's all over now that's true it's okay we're happy for Jim brilliant yeah so we're all happy for Jim she is a low-maintenance girlfriend she's not gonna make it about her you know her friends you know her friends are like Jane what are you doing you have to dump him he killed your brother he and his friends are murderers. And yeah, their tunes are banging. But again, he killed your brother.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Do you think she's, like, out of school now? I'm pretty sure that her brother was molesting her from the age of, like, 15 to... Really? Yeah. Like, that's the only thing that makes sense. Well, he's very jealous. He's, like, jealous the way only a lover can be. a lover
Starting point is 00:45:49 he's a jealous brother lover and that's the reason why she's not upset that he's dead if anything I think she feels relieved well she did say early on she sets the stage for this she says I don't like him right which makes it cool to be killed and also I think what really gave me insight
Starting point is 00:46:08 to her relationship with her brother is in flashback it's the most innocuous like they have this like thing and you see a flashback of her and her brother it's like him just like, an inconsequential life flashback. I'd be like, oh, my brother. And it's just like, them in front of the school. Like, it's just like a flash.
Starting point is 00:46:25 Like, that was the only moment. She's like, oh, yeah, I remember him. Right, yeah, he was the hairy guy. All right, it's a cool. That's cool. By the way, if Jim's sword wound did not kill him, dragging him through a stagnant pond, is certainly going to do it.
Starting point is 00:46:44 It's going to get infected. Oh, he would have lived. but, like, apparently all of the bacteria was shoved into his body when you dragged him through swamp water. You fucking morons. Little do you know about the suits that they make in Orlando.
Starting point is 00:46:59 They are swamp resistant. And so when you got a nice Orlando suit, you can fall right off one of those gator boats and you'll be fine. We haven't talked about the train yard fight. We haven't talked about the bikers. We haven't talked about the b-roll of bikers. Bikers?
Starting point is 00:47:16 We're all real and paid in beer. Yeah. Truth. Bikers all real paid in beer. Also, I read in the little trivia section that Jane's real boyfriend was just oats. And in the movie, her boyfriend is Giant Michael Phelps. And so whenever they had to do makeout scenes,
Starting point is 00:47:35 they would send Just Oats out for beer. They'd be like, hey, Just Oates. Go get us some beers, will you? And he'd come back and they'd be like, your girlfriend just made out with Giant Michael Phelps. You idiot, you fell for it. What are you guys shooting today? Oh, just the scene at the beach in the sea.
Starting point is 00:47:52 Don't worry about it. Can I get some beers? He's like, I'll make it up. I'll just roll on women. Also, how about the fact that there is a scene? I love the scene where Jeff's gang of biker thugs were tailing Sound Dragon in a white Volvo. Like, the bad guy's car was just a boxy safe white Volvo.
Starting point is 00:48:14 I was like, they just are doing, like, oh, well, my mom's got a car. We'll do it. Bring it. By the way, speaking of this, every time there was a fight in this movie, I thought, June, this is actually a great movie for you because I think you finally get your answer to what's a street fighter, because every time in this movie, it would
Starting point is 00:48:30 seem like a bunch of people would get in the street and fight. They would always just, like, block a thoroughfare, and seemingly like 40 people without any stunt coordination just went at it. Just going to town on each other. There was a lot of, like, people, like, standing in convertible like going like this,
Starting point is 00:48:47 just like raising one arm over and over. There was a lot of like Sound Dragon is vastly outnumbered and then they kick ass like poorly. Yes. And defeat like people who sometimes have guns. Well, that's what's so weird about the statement you read
Starting point is 00:49:07 at the end of the movie about World Peace and not using violence. You never see them struggle to not fight. They never try and turn down a fight. No. Which isn't that the whole thing about martial arts that you learn how to fight so that you don't have to? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:25 No, they just go for it. If you have the ability to hold someone's nose with your toe. You're going to want to do that. Then you're going to use that, aren't you? I totally hear that. As much as you can. There was one funny moment in that scene where they get pulled, when they get stopped in the street of downtown Orlando.
Starting point is 00:49:44 and... Miami? Oh, no, Orlando. Where one of the characters comes over and is going to pour beer on all their heads. Oh, yeah. So he could hit... He can get Y. K. Kim, because he's right by him.
Starting point is 00:49:59 But he really can't reach Michael Phelps. So Michael Phelps leans in to get the beer poured on his... All right. He helps them. I loved that the bad guys were like, hey, Jerry, get over here. Do you? Do it?
Starting point is 00:50:13 So whatever. There's like dozens of bad guys, like, with guns. Right, with guns. And then this guy comes in like, oh, and you think, oh, he's got to be their most badass guy. All he does is pour beer on their heads. That's his big move, which is crazy. There's a tough guy's song in this movie. Do you have the tough guy's song, Paul?
Starting point is 00:50:33 Oh, you bet. By the way. Fuck, yes. This is some next level shit. Let's all fuck to this tonight. night. Like, do it, do it, people. That is no surprise.
Starting point is 00:50:51 My favorite is when he goes into the bar and kisses the bartender. I was like, what? That bar. That bar, that scene is crazy. because it has two of the main bad guys there. They get at the bar, and then they have a conversation where the mics are not on.
Starting point is 00:51:21 And it's kind of like, it's like a moment where they're kind of meeting up to talk about something big. And you don't hear what they're talking about. It's like, that should be a huge plot point in the movie. Not like a montage roll over the scene. Oh, my God. This movie is great. I think you guys are lucky.
Starting point is 00:51:41 So much good stuff. Well, let me tell you a little bit about the movie, just a little bit more, and then we'll talk to the audience. So, long story short, they get a distribution company to purchase this film for $100,000. It opens in eight theaters in Orlando.
Starting point is 00:52:02 That was the release plan, and had a very poor critical reception, and it ended after three weeks. Never to be heard, from a kid. Sorry, what year is this? Eighty-seven. Okay. Then, in 2009, a programmer at the Alamo Draft House was on eBay and saw the listing for a 35-millimeter
Starting point is 00:52:23 print of the film for $35. And in 2010, screened the film. People went nuts. And the draft house was like, holy shit, we found, like, the room of the 80s. the Tommy was over I'm not the Bree Larson room and
Starting point is 00:52:44 although some of these people might have been forced into acting in this movie in a room scenario so basically then they call YK Kim and they're like we want to release your movie
Starting point is 00:52:58 hangs up on them multiple times he thinks it's a prank and then no we really want it he's like really and they go yeah they re-released this movie in 2012. It was missing. No one saw it. It wasn't
Starting point is 00:53:15 available from 87 to 2012 and it just is a, it's a recent find that Alamo Draft House happened to find because someone was on eBay and found this thing and then screened it. It would have, it would have only been those
Starting point is 00:53:30 eight theaters in Orlando for that run. And so now the movie has become, you know, a big success and there's been money made from it, the million dollar budget and just to show you well, well, we'll get into that at the end.
Starting point is 00:53:47 But yeah, so that is that... That's amazing. Yeah, it's pretty amazing. And just deserved. Yeah, it came back. I love that as a... Like, I love that it's lost for all of those years. And then came out of nowhere
Starting point is 00:54:00 and now, you know, he's getting some success off of it. And he's still alive. Has he made a second one yet? By the way, he should. That would be amazing with the same cast. The Orlando Connection, all shot in Miami. And plus
Starting point is 00:54:15 Phelps can probably finance it now. Well, let's go into the crowd and see if you guys have anything to bring up that we might have missed. Anything at all? All right, sir, how are you? What's your name? What's your question?
Starting point is 00:54:32 My name is Casey, and I wanted to acknowledge during the train yard fight, one of the henchmen who I nicknamed kid rock crocktop who did like he like kind of humped like the mound of dirt while Giant Michael Phelps
Starting point is 00:54:48 was fighting to other guys and then he just danced for him and then Giant Michael Phelps punched him out yeah there was a lot of pretty weird vignettes in that train yard fight all right here we go let's see what's going on here there were three there were three
Starting point is 00:55:04 he made some air though didn't he once he got kicked Yeah. He went, there were three bad guys that I found very funny and compelling. That guy,
Starting point is 00:55:14 also the little methy kind of skinny guy with him and the big guy. Anyway, it doesn't matter. All right, ma'am, your name, your question. My name's Jody, and my question is,
Starting point is 00:55:24 in the final scene when they're all sort of samurai scimitaring each other, who are the people on the bridge? Are they just like... Like observers? Yeah. I feel like those are people
Starting point is 00:55:36 that were like Orlando local. who heard like, hey, they're shooting a movie down by the bridge. Can we watch? And then YK was like, yeah, you can even be in it, really. It doesn't make a difference. Watching people die, like getting... Yeah, they're not in it. They're not in it.
Starting point is 00:55:50 They're just watching and see how it all goes down. But if you think about it, like... If there are ninjas in your town, you would go out to see them, too. That posits a world, though, in which, like, ordinary people out for a walk in the park witness a ninja fight that ends in multiple murders. I also noticed that and questioned it,
Starting point is 00:56:07 but I was too distracted by what was going on with Yoshito when he was fighting very clearly was not Yoshito. No. It was... The Sunman had a mustache at one point. I think it was Dead Jeff. Actor, Dead Jeff, had come back to play Yoshito
Starting point is 00:56:28 and the thing is very, very obvious. I believe that was a reshoot and you're 100% right. Yeah, that was... They have to make do with what they had. Yes, sir. Your name and your question. My name's Kevin. And I'm wondering if you're a ninja
Starting point is 00:56:41 and you're trying to be all stealthy, would you pull up in your loud-ass motorcycle everywhere? Totally true. Totally true. I mean, what do these ninjas do? What are they up to otherwise? Like, what are... Aside from...
Starting point is 00:56:57 That's in a lyric somewhere in one of the songs, isn't it? That they're ninjas by night. What is it they do during the day? They're bikers by day. Bikers by day, ninjas by night. How are they earning money? Bikers get into some shit, you know?
Starting point is 00:57:14 It really is, like, it's the duality of life. You know, the loud bike during the day and the quiet stealth of the ninja. You know, it's been really yin-yang. You've got two outfits in your wardrobe. You've got your leathers. And then your full taekwondo gear. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:33 You know what I liked about him, too? When he was riding that motorcycle, look fully comfortable on it. Like, he, in the tough guy's song, he's supposed to be like, I'm a tough guy. And it looks like bugs are flying into his face. He's like trying to avoid bugs a little bit as it's coming out. Yes, sir, your name of your question.
Starting point is 00:57:52 My name is Frank, and I really want to know, are we going to address the crazy family tree between the Snow Ninja and Harry Little Jeff? Yeah, well, with Yoshito. Right, well, Jane, Jeff, and Yashito. Obviously, I had to re-watch this scene a few times because I thought, do you think it was a typo in the script or a misdelivery by the actor when he went,
Starting point is 00:58:17 I'm so sorry, but your brother, Jeff, is dead? Was it like originally scripted, brother? I've got to tell you that Jeff is dead. And it's now turned, and you're going, hang on, Jeff, Jane, and Yoshito all grew up together? Well, I am remembering that their parents, so the dad who died very shortly after the mom, that dad, I'm pretty sure,
Starting point is 00:58:44 left them and married someone else or left for another woman. So maybe that woman... Maybe it's a half? Maybe she does a half. But he seems the oldest. Also, Jane and Jeff do not look alike at all. he is
Starting point is 00:59:06 covered in here yeah that's the thing I think it's so hard to know without that amount of hair if they look alike or not I think there's no way to tell but I assume I guess I assumed that Yashito
Starting point is 00:59:18 was not a blood brother but was like a brother to him like a friend brother did Jane mention Yashita? No no mention of him boy Yashito also has very lax entrance policies in the temple
Starting point is 00:59:32 Like, people just kind of barge in on him when he seems to have all the ninjas in a kneeling position and talking. When the ninjas in the beginning of the movie, I forgot about this, when they go to grab the cocaine, they grab a handful of it and let it sift through their fingers as if that's some sort of indication of like,
Starting point is 00:59:51 that's the cocaine. Like, you know, normally you wipe some on your gums or whatever, but they just seem like to scoop up a handful and then run. And leaving also bags of cocaine. Fully intact bags of cocaine there. These are bad ninjas. Great bikers. Great bikers.
Starting point is 01:00:08 What was the ninja's plan? Did we know what they were fighting for? No idea. Coke? Did they want the Coke trade? I thought that he was, I don't know. He was just bringing in that man. I mean, I don't want to like stymie us all here, but like...
Starting point is 01:00:25 Does anyone have a clear idea of what the ninjas were fighting for? Oh, Miami, I'm going to come around here. You seem to really feel like you got it. If it's YK. Kim, I'm going to freak out. Can you come over here just a little bit? All right, here we go. All right, tell me what your theory is. All right, so the Miami connection is Yoshito.
Starting point is 01:00:45 He's the plug. He's a drug dealer in Miami that brings the drugs to Orlando. That's the Miami connection. Okay. That's all they want. So they're not siblings, really. Well, that doesn't answer that necessarily. He said it, though, so emphatically, I bought it.
Starting point is 01:01:04 But it does answer... But it does bring up other questions. It does answer the Miami connection of it all. Yeah, I like that. Which I appreciate. All right, ma'am. Your name, your question. My name is Megan, and my question is,
Starting point is 01:01:16 how much is the band getting paid because they're all driving around in one car, which the convertible top doesn't seem to work because it's raining? I want to talk to the same just enough to buy grapes. Well, there's a couple things I want to say. First of all, they are spending all their money on the pyrotechnics
Starting point is 01:01:32 in the small club, but that's normally for a big verena. But I love that they got in that convertible, and if you watch that scene, they have trouble getting into that con. So I counted at least two people, like, it was not a graceful jump in. It was as if you, like,
Starting point is 01:01:50 they didn't know how to navigate it at all. Yeah. Well, they're also, like, all of them are physically bizarre. Yeah, they all look. like, you know, those crazy drawings that people do of you at fairs and stuff? Carricatures? They are all
Starting point is 01:02:08 caricatures. They all sort of look like characters. Like big giant heads, riding tiny skateboards. Holding a tennis racket. Especially when they're moving around on the stage during the songs. I don't know whether any of you noticed, but none of the instruments are plugged in. None.
Starting point is 01:02:24 And they're all playing guitar. They're all playing guitar. There's like three guitars. Y. K. Kim's doing his very best. Like this, you know, gliding between one note. Even still, the songs are fucking great. Amazes. Songs are great. They nailed it.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Now it's time for a second opinion. It's just that your opinion on this movie is no good, and you really didn't watch it in the context that you should. My opinion might be second, but beside it I have stood. I'd give this movie all five stars and six stars if I could. Yes! Unless on! Wait.
Starting point is 01:02:57 You could go right there. You can go back. Give it for Alyssa. And Alyssa, Coomate is with, what's your name, sir? Cash. Cash. Now it's time for a second opinion.
Starting point is 01:03:14 My, oh my, now what can you do when having one opinion just won't do? We thought the movie bad, but we could be wrong. Let's check out some reviews from Amazon. Some reviews from people that hold this movie dear, read with passion by my man Paul Shear. We got to take a second look. this movie couldn't have been a failure.
Starting point is 01:03:30 There's a decapitation in the motherfucking trailer. Yes. Amazing. Thank you so much. That was amazing. Great job. Wow. Stellar.
Starting point is 01:03:41 Stellar, stellar, stellar, stellar stuff. Amazing. Oh, wow. They're in the same row, too. All right. So, obviously, like I said, the second opinions here, they really aren't, they're not,
Starting point is 01:03:55 they're not great because they love the movie. but I'll read them anyway. Okay, this one is from Jamie Gross, written November 13th, 2014. Catchy tunes, sweet action moves, and an important underlying message about the importance of family, whether it be by blood or other bonds.
Starting point is 01:04:18 Five stars. And then this one right here, this is from just an Amazon, customer. It's titled, I can't help it. I really like this movie. The songs from the band stick in your head. I live about 50 miles away from Orlando. Five stars. Just laying down some facts. I don't know. It's as if to say, I could go see Sound Dragon if I wanted to. And then finally, this one from Andrew Rodellus. And it says like this.
Starting point is 01:05:03 Miami Connection is the epitome of movies that happen to combine Florida, ninjas, martial arts, and music into one thing. Between the interesting facets of Dragon Sound, the escalation of violence in the movie. It reminds me a bit of the original Mad Max, oddly enough, especially considering the biker gangs. and the character of Jane, who echoes some of the feminist ideas, since her character arc is sort of all about doing what she wants and not obeying Jeff. There are some things that emerge here about Miami Connection that suggests it's not merely a brainless action flick.
Starting point is 01:05:39 Five stars. Wow. So that is, those are some very sincere, sincere, Jin. No, I love. this movie. I really do. It's just so crazy. So crazy. Can we play some of these songs? Well, I want to play the songs, but I have
Starting point is 01:06:02 two treats here. The first being this. This is the original end. Okay, so it, let's see. The one that's green at Khan. The one that's, yeah. This is what the audience is in France saw. All right, so
Starting point is 01:06:18 let's see. Jim. Don't die, Jim. My father. Come on, hang on. Where's your shirt, bro? I'll see my phone. Don't die.
Starting point is 01:06:36 Please. You are alive. Peace. You are alive. Jim. Hang on and we get to the hospital. Jim, you cannot die. You need to die.
Starting point is 01:06:46 You need to see your father. Hang on. Jim, your father is coming now. Oh, no, Jim's father's on that plane. Wow! Jim dies in the back of the car just as his father's plane lands in Orlando. Flies right over them.
Starting point is 01:07:12 Flies literally right over them. Which makes sense why they stopped the car when Jim was dying. On a flight path. If they're on a flight path, then how did he know he was all? on that plane if the plane comes in every five minutes. I didn't know, I didn't forget the one detail
Starting point is 01:07:28 that I loved is that Jim's tie is also cut in half when he is stabbed. That is a dark ending. And they went for it. And now, because I think it's this, I think we're all a little bit interested, this is a documentary, this is kind of the best of this documentary. So we get to see where these people are right now.
Starting point is 01:07:50 So, take a quick look at them now. It's short, but here we go. My mother was Korean, and my father was black American. That was very intense. That was boohoo crying. And it took about two hours for that last, what you see on the movie, that that seemed to be done. We're putting onion under my eyes and eye drops.
Starting point is 01:08:20 And finally, I just recalled something from the past and got a little bit out. But the first cut that they didn't take, that was a good one. You were fine, your father. It did come out. Funny that I always thought it was a good film. You know, had a nice little story and not perfect,
Starting point is 01:08:39 lots of little quirky things. And oh my God, oh my God. Oh my God! It told me. I mean, that's just, it is what it is. The musical force behind Dragon Sound was the lead singer and the guitar player, Angelo and Kathy. They were actual musicians and they wrote the songs. They also helped us in terms of getting the musical instruments, getting drums, getting all the equipment,
Starting point is 01:09:06 coaching us on how to look on camera, you know, playing air guitar and things like that. I have a little rhythm. I have a little rhythm. I look, I did well, I thought. I thought for non-artist. It was that kind of new wave-ish time and period. I believe the songs that Angelo and Kathy wrote really reflected the spirit and the feeling that happened in that club.
Starting point is 01:09:31 So it was very realistic from that perspective. Against the Ninja, I believe we may have done that in one day. We run in on a Tuesday. I don't know if we can't. I think we came back the next night with it. Demo because we had a four-track studio, so put it together and he loved it. I want a dragon sound t-shirt.
Starting point is 01:09:54 They're available. I think you could have one made pretty easy. By the way, we should make, that should be our next how did this get made shirt, a dragon sound t-jured. Oh, he's wearing one right there. What? Oh, did you get that? That's awesome.
Starting point is 01:10:14 Love it. No sleeves on that shirt. That looks amazing. Wow. I feel like we could do a whole episode on those like two minutes. What has gone on? I would do a whole second episode just on the music. Oh, it really is great.
Starting point is 01:10:33 Is there anything, as we are winding down here, that we didn't talk about that anyone wants to bring up before we find out if you'd recommend it, although I feel like that's a... I've forgotten about that all-lace suit. The all-laced white suit. So just want to talk about. about it for a second I've never seen lace pants it would seem to me really
Starting point is 01:10:57 hard to keep in shape like like physical shape right yeah I wanted a close-up so I could see how how they lay because I couldn't understand what they were I mean that outfit was just amazing I love to talk about the grapes last time yeah Right, so I don't know whether you remember, there's a scene where YK. Kim goes around all the other characters, and he doesn't have any dialogue in that scene. So he's obviously saying to himself, what can I do, what can I do in this scene?
Starting point is 01:11:29 So he grabs a bunch of grapes and just feeds them to all his friends. And then goes to the next one and just keeps going around, like four or five grapes. It's sort of like this homoerotic kind of gesture. Do you see it as a Christ allegory? Eat of this grape. It is my flesh. Right?
Starting point is 01:11:51 He's definitely like the Christ of this movie like I can. Yeah, I can't remember what happened in the scene. I can't imagine it being that important what happened in the scene. Well, I mean, there are those scenes that make no sense. There's a scene where they just all eat
Starting point is 01:12:06 and the chef just looks at them and's like, good job. I'm glad you're enjoying my food. I had a question about that scene. When they get there to that restaurant, the owner is being beat up, right? And he's wearing a Mickey and Minnie Mouse apron. Right.
Starting point is 01:12:21 What is his relate? Is he just also being hassled independent? Yes. Wow. He's only seen that guy. What's that? Was that his only scene? He has two scenes.
Starting point is 01:12:31 One where he's watching the meat. And he just stands at the front of the table and smiles. Yeah. And then the next scene they reference like, oh, he's having a hard time too. And then like that gang is there and like, this food's shit. And they just walk out. Yeah. And they walk out.
Starting point is 01:12:45 Yeah. After it's seemingly enjoying it. Well. Because I was like, is he tied into something with them as well? Like, are the people that are hassling them now expanding to hassle? This guy, I couldn't. I feel like that guy provided craft service for them, and they were like, we got to put him in the movie.
Starting point is 01:13:01 I feel like, yeah, yeah, maybe. Oh, I just, I just remembered. He's Mark's uncle? In the movie. He's not Y.K. Kim's uncle. Oh, okay. He's Mark's Uncle. Oh, one more thing that just came to mind, actually.
Starting point is 01:13:15 You know, when Jane introduces Michael Phelps to a brother, she said, oh, this is my friend. And the brother goes, A friend? Really super loud. And Giant Michael Phelps goes like, hey, Jeff, nice to meet you, I've heard a lot about you.
Starting point is 01:13:37 And the height, if you can imagine the height discrepancy between Jane and Giant Michael Phelps She towers above Jeff. Jeff could fit in giant Michael Phelps' fanny pack. Well, I'll go around and ask. I mean, it's a dumb question, but Jason, do you recommend this movie? Paul 100% yes. I would urge our listeners to buy this movie immediately
Starting point is 01:14:07 and watch it with someone that they care about. I bought it on iTunes, and there's a special documentary about the music on iTunes. iTunes, but I believe there's also a DVD edition that's called Stupid Cocaine Edition, and that has a little documentary on it and stuff like that as well.
Starting point is 01:14:23 June, do you recommend... Yes, of course. And you said earlier, it is your type of ninja movie. It is my kind of ninja movie, for sure. Chris, do you recommend this movie? Hey, come on, we are friends through eternity. There's loyalty.
Starting point is 01:14:41 There's honesty. We're going to be together through thick and thin. Ninja's Day. Rins forever. Bikers by day, ninjas by night. Still the cocaine. 100%. What a movie.
Starting point is 01:14:54 I also concur by this movie. It's great. And before we go out, we have to talk about plugs. You're the worst coming back this September, early September. Very exciting. Is there anything you can even tell us about it? Yeah, it's season four. Season three finished, a tiny bit of a spoiler,
Starting point is 01:15:19 but the two are now separated. And this season is a fun, jam-packed kind of selection of awful ways that they attempt to get back together. But it's funnier and sillier and darker than ever. It's great. I'm very excited to watch. Thank you, everyone. Jason June, what did he got?
Starting point is 01:15:43 anything I got nothing I'm good I will plug an amazing way you can contact your representatives if you want to which is there's something called resist bot which maybe people know about maybe they don't but it's literally you put the number in your phone you text resist to the number and you can they will fax for you it's run all by volunteers any questions concerns you have to your representatives you put in your zip code it's amazing it's super easy But I really recommend it. It's unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:16:17 And I will just say, I have nothing. That really lays it down. I have two things you can watch on Netflix, which is you can watch this movie opening night. There's two. Look at the picture and think of the one that I would probably be in and not pick that one. And then the other one is Wet Hot American Summer 10 years later. My character, Dave comes back again for a couple episodes.
Starting point is 01:16:42 a couple episodes. Thank you all for coming. Give it up for Chris. You're great. Big thanks to April Haley for finding all these amazing clips. Nick Hiley for doing all this research. Kelly Alta for pulling it all together. Awesome, awesome.
Starting point is 01:16:54 Thank you. Thank you. July Diaz is at the booth. Everybody here in Largo. Thank you. That's the show, but it doesn't end here. Listen to our mini episode where the discussion about this movie continues. You can give us a call at 619.
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