How Did This Get Made? - Miami Connection LIVE! w/ Chris Geere (HDTGM Matinee)
Episode Date: November 11, 2025Actor Chris Geere (You're The Worst) joins Paul, June, and Jason to discuss the 1987 martial arts film Miami Connection. LIVE from Largo at the Coronet in Los Angeles, they talk about the music band o...f ninjas, the connection to Miami, orphan beach, and so much more. (Ep. #171 Originally Released 09/15/2017) • We're coming to Philadelphia on 11/8! Go to hdtgm.com for tix, merch, and more• Have a Last Looks correction or omission? Call 619-PAULASK to leave us a voicemail!• Submit your Last Looks theme song to us here• Join the HDTGM conversation on Discord: discord.gg/hdtgm• Buy merch at howdidthisgetmade.dashery.com/• Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of Trauma• Shop our new hat collection at podswag.com• Paul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheer• Paul’s YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheer• Follow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer• Subscribe to Enter The Dark Web w/ Paul & Rob Huebel: youtube.com/@enterthedarkweb• Listen to Unspooled with Paul & Amy Nicholson: unspooledpodcast.com• Listen to The Deep Dive with June & Jessica St. Clair: thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcast• Instagram: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & @junediane• Twitter: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & msjunediane • Jason is not on social media• Episode transcripts available at how-did-this-get-made.simplecast.com/episodesGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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It's a movie about a band of ninjas.
No, literally, like a music band of ninjas.
Yeah, that have to defeat Miami drug lords
so they can play at Orlando's number one music club.
Fuck it, I've said too much.
We saw Miami Connection, so you know what that means.
We made...
What's the naked grove, baby in his belly?
Rock a wine, stone vest while whipping Justin to Kelly.
Or maybe see a burlash show with Nick Crowe
and take a boat with speed who hitting cruise control.
Jayman, Big Paul, and the beautiful Jew.
Gonna take you from the groove all the way to the room.
Ran the games and street fire that helped to blow off steam.
Just a sucker plush the odd life of Timothy Green.
Sharp Nittle to Bird Demick, how we stand a lot.
They're calling in the badass and he's on the line.
Cranking 88 minutes because they cool as ice.
Because a bad gym, Barney looking kind of nice.
Paul and June getting literal. Jason is getting laid.
June is making sure all the monkey shots getting paid.
They're judged a bunch of movies while they're making the grade.
Here's a real question for you. How did this get made?
Hello, people of us.
Hello, people of Largo.
We are live here in Los Angeles.
At Largo, our L.A. home, the amazing Largo at the Cornette.
and we have a great show for you tonight.
Continuing our fascination with ninjas,
we are talking about Miami Connection.
I would argue, the best movie with martial arts in it ever.
Joining me, as always, are my two co-hosts.
Please welcome Jason Manzukas.
What's up, jerks?
Wow.
Welcome, Jason.
Wow, we really did it this time.
You are welcome, America.
For every piece of shit that we have made you watch,
this is...
This is a triumph.
We have just thrown you a scrap of real meat.
I mean, enjoy it, like a choice, cut.
I had first rented this movie,
had to stop midway through,
and then when I went back to the screen
where it said,
do you want to continue the rental?
I said, no, I want to fucking buy it.
We should all own this movie.
100%.
Wow, we.
So much fun.
This is maybe one of the best movies
we've ever done.
And, you know, let's see how much
we can get through to talk about.
And there is so much to talk about.
Oh, God, is there ever?
Oh, God, there are monologues, there are...
There's so much in this movie!
So...
Not to mention, legit, the greatest soundtrack of any movie
I've ever heard.
I want these songs playing now.
The music is, like, legitimately catchy and good.
From the minute they're on stage,
These guys are undeniable.
It's just oats, and it's great.
I will say that this movie is full of celebrity doppelgangers.
We'll get into all that.
Joining me also, as like I said, my other...
Is one of them giant Michael Phelps?
Can we just call one of them Giant Michael Phelps?
A hundred percent, I would request that we have to.
I mean, that is some sort of Michael Phelps Frankenstein action.
To me, the bad guy also reminded me
of that sleazy dude from Diehard who was like,
Bobby, bough!
That guy, who's Elliot, who does the cocaine.
So, um, it's so good.
Joining me also tonight, Miss June, Diane Rayfield.
Careful, careful.
Exposed wires.
This would never fly.
This is a very dangerous.
I know.
I meant to unplug it, but I got so excited with the pre-show.
June.
Oh.
One of the things that upset me the most about this movie
was I didn't get to watch it with you
because we, we experienced a blackout last night.
You guys drank to the point of unconsciousness?
It's real Virginia Woolf at our house.
Wait, the movie, who's afraid of Virginia Woolf?
No, Virginia Woolf.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm Virginia Woolf, she's Virginia Slim.
And...
Yeah, we watched it separately.
And I did feel watching it.
Now, look, sometimes I have a hard time watching these movies.
I've said that before.
I'll say it again.
And this was one where I really felt I had a limited time to watch it.
And I thought, you've got to rewind.
You've missed something so important.
And because usually I'll ask Paul, but you.
you weren't there.
Yeah.
And a couple times I did rewind.
And I...
Did it help?
Not at all.
Not at all.
And now I think after watching the trailer,
I didn't miss a thing.
Yeah.
I didn't miss a thing.
No, I know.
It's very confusing, but fantastically simple.
Well, I would argue that the ratio of unimportant scenes
are matched by important scenes.
Like, there is an equal
distribution of scenes that matter
to the plot. There are
multiple instances of like nine
plus minute scenes.
Oh yeah. That's unheard of.
It's some very cutting edge
indie shit that we're watching. Oh yeah, and there's a
tremendous amount of ADR
just trying
to sew this movie together.
I have a different take on it.
I don't think that they had a good sound person.
I feel like they were like, oh. We shot this
we can't hear a word. Just come back
and do it all again.
Well, we are very excited
about our guest tonight.
He is in the hit FX show.
You're the Worst, which premieres September 6th.
Please welcome Chris Geer.
First ever...
First ever costume guest.
For those listening at home,
Chris is...
Chris is rocking the...
Oh, check the back.
Check the back.
Oh, wow.
The back says...
Can you see that?
It says Miami Dreaming.
Miami Dreaming.
I wondered when I was ever going to wear this
and then this opportunity came around.
It's amazing.
Headband, fingerless gloves,
and we are so excited to talk to you.
So, did you ever hear about this movie?
I'd never heard about it.
No.
but I have to thank you for introducing me
to what is, like you say,
a movie that I believe everyone should have,
yes.
Yeah, it defies expectations
at every step of the way.
We'll obviously get into it,
but the connection to Miami
is something that I can really relate to
in that I have also
I have also been there once
for a short period
early on.
Why is this movie
called Miami Connection?
What is being connected there?
By the way, I would argue
it doesn't need to be called Miami Connection
because it takes place in Orlando.
Oh, yeah.
The entirety of this group is in Orlando.
The first scene is somewhere in Miami.
Yeah, pointless drug scene.
Yeah, the drug scene in which
It was like the village people
Of bad guys
Every time
Cowboy hat bad guy
Like 80s bad guy
Biker bad guy
And ninjas of course
Oh yeah
And since when is there a guy
Who wears an all white ninja
outfit
Like that guy I feel like
It would be super noticeable
In the rafters of a building
They meet for that drug deal
And there's a dude in a straight up
White Ninja's outfit
that's the opposite of being a ninja.
You're calling so much attention to yourself.
That's like the height of ninja narcissism.
It's like, no, I don't want to be silent
and faceless in the shadows.
Well, it's funny because the beginning,
before I watched the movie,
I said we watched probably about two minutes of it
before the blackout.
We watched two minutes together.
This whole previous story now seems like a lie.
No, it's all true.
There is a blackout.
out. It happened two minutes into our viewing, and I said to Paul, and I was very upset.
I said, is this a ninja movie?
So disappointed. Still feeling the pang of Ninja Terminator, which is another great one, Chris.
What Ninja Terminator did to me was so, I'm not recovered. I feel I've been traumatized
by that movie. And once I realized like, uh-oh, I think this has something to do with ninjas,
I felt so triggered.
my body going to that place of like I have to watch a million ninja fight scenes that I don't
understand. I fucking hate ninjas. I hate them. And so to realize early on that it was a ninja
movie, but then you told me it's not that kind of ninja movie. And to your credit, it wasn't
that kind of movie. Very rarely do we get to see ninjas with extracurriculars.
Yeah.
And motorbikes.
Yeah, they were a motorcycle ninja band.
In some ways, it was my kind of ninja movie.
It also posits a world in which fucking Orlando is overrun with ninja gangs.
That's what I'm trying to wrap my head.
Why?
I'm like, okay, maybe a city the size of Orlando has one prominent ninja gang.
This has multiple nymphs.
ninja gangs, one of which is an aspiring new wave band.
Who are legit, great.
Here's the thing, guys, drop out of college,
stop being ninjas, just focus on this band.
They're trying, again, like I said in the opening,
they're trying just to be a band.
Yeah.
These drug lords are after them, not for ninja stuff,
they're just a band.
That's true.
Oh, it's just because the sister.
Just because the sister is dating
giant Michael Phelps.
But why does that matter?
Why does that matter? Because the little hairy
dude was like, no, no, no.
By the way, he's not just hairy.
He's like... He's like...
Condensed Harry.
Yeah.
There's hair at a density level.
It's so upsetting.
He is like a boiled
wool sweater
on his entire body.
That's what he's...
To me...
He's like a close-knit sweater.
I was thinking of like
Captain Caveman from
the old, like, Flint's, just shaved
in a couple more places.
Or if you took, like,
I'm trying to think of, like,
a normal proportioned,
tall, hairy man, but compacted.
Yes, condensed, condensed.
So there's, like, more follicles
per square inch of body.
You know what I mean?
I feel like, for every, honestly, for every poor,
or, like, a place where you could put one follicle
for him, there was, like, 10.
Okay, so you know how like a chia pet comes with the thing?
What if you put all the seeds on a much smaller thing, right?
It'd look pretty crazy.
That's what this guy is.
So he's just upset because his sister's dating someone?
I think he's, listen, I think he's projecting his anger over being so hairy.
And so short onto the fact that his sister's with giant Michael Phelps.
And their proportion.
His personality is all off.
The scene where they're walking, like, with his...
He's, like, draped over her, like, an ill-fitting coat.
What's going on?
That's one of the only times where he's got his shirt on as well, rather than...
Just like a towel around his neck.
He's got one of those very long trunks.
I feel like he's wearing a trench coat in the scene where he picks her up,
but he's so tall that the trench coat only can.
comes up to his waist.
What is going on with them sexually?
You can see why she was so attracted to him
due to his moves, you know, his moves
when she's in the classroom,
and he comes in, he's doing all this,
like, winking and nodding.
He also enters a very clouded classroom,
and he's like, hey, come here,
like, as if there's not a million people,
like, there's like a full classroom in session.
Like, come here, hey, yeah, all right, hey.
And she thinks he's fucking.
I mean, I get it.
He's dynamite in the pool, but.
By the way, that is a swimmer's body.
Like, that's a body that belongs only in water.
I've got to be honest.
Do we know for sure that's not?
I don't.
I wouldn't dare say that.
I'm not sure.
It may be prove me wrong, Michael.
No, she also, I don't know if anyone else had this problem,
but she, to me, looked different in every year.
scene.
I could not figure out.
Especially early on.
I didn't realize that this person
was the same person.
Band hair and school hair.
Was she even in the first scene?
I felt like she was just a group
before the band and then
in the next scene she's the lead singer.
By the way, the treatment of her
as a female character in this movie throughout
is problematic to say
the very weak.
What are you talking about?
In the first scene, she doesn't play an instrument at all.
She's just hopping around the stage.
That's why I thought she was a groupie.
I thought that she was brought up on stage by the lead singer to like kind of like...
But then why isn't she a part of this band and their aspirations and their ninja training?
She kind of becomes the lead singer at a certain point.
But you're right, she has no function in the ninja portion.
Wait a second, I just realized...
Or in like any of the conversations they have about how they want to build the band
and go on a tour to all of the countries that their parents came.
that
I mean
I could talk about that
that scene
conservatively
for three hours
I mean
this guy
this guy has
only those lines
in this scene
talks not before
and not after
I want to play the scene
and I just had a realization
of why these ninjas
may actually be after this band
so if I forget
to remind me here
stick with us after the clip
So Mark, how do you feel about putting some board breaking you into the act?
Sure. Why not?
We could write another Tequando song,
and after Tom does one of his guitar solos, we could all break boards.
Jack could do a drum solo.
How about it, Jack?
I'd love to help you write that song, John,
but there's no way I'm going to break any boards in that club.
I don't even want us to play there anymore.
Why? Because that other man jumped us the other night?
Yeah, because of Jeff, too.
He's in there every night.
This damn gang, selling stupid cocaine.
Don't worry about Jeff.
If he bothers us anymore, I'll make sure he regrets it.
What you think about a tour?
What kind of tour?
It would be a world tour.
But what would make it special is that we play in each other's countries,
you know, like finding our roots.
You mean we're gonna play in Ireland?
Right. While we're in Europe, we'd visit Italy.
You know, Tom's home country.
We'd visit all the countries where our parents came from.
Korea?
Ireland
We'd play in Israel
That's where my parents are from
I didn't realize these people
The 7 is really an international band
Right
Wherever we'd go
We'd visit the local Taekwondo schools
We'd promote peace and goodwill
I think we could take a little time out for dinner
While we're trying to save the world
Oh
That scene is amazing
And they're very bad bookers for a world tour.
I mean, some expensive flights.
I don't know where to begin with this.
I mean, they make a big point in this movie
over establishing that everybody in the band is an orphan.
Yes.
Oh, well, that's just dropped.
That's dropped in a scene where...
The guy says he's looking for his father.
And they're like, wait a second.
We're all orphans.
Like, that doesn't mean that you don't have a father.
But it is a strange thing.
Because it seems as though that's how they found each other.
Yes.
Through their orphan identity.
Yes.
And also, like, they all, I think, go to college together, right?
Yeah, UCF.
Okay, so that's a question.
Then, too, like, what did they put up a sign that said,
looking for band members, bass, drums, keyboards, must, like, these bands and be an orphan?
Like, must have no living parents.
And no taekwondo.
and international.
It's a lot of things that you need to know
to be in this band.
Because they've got a lot going on.
By the way, that actor
whose parents are from Israel
he truly seems like,
and I don't mean to be cruel,
but it seems like he's acting under duress.
That's something,
and he doesn't want to be there.
I would not be surprised to find out
that he had been abducted
and forced to make this movie.
Well, let me just, like,
throughout the podcast,
I'll drop a little.
little bit of knowledge about this movie on you.
And one of the things about it is
the lead actor, the director, the guy
who is, you know...
Y. K. Kim. Yes. Y.K.
Kim. He plays Mark.
Mark. He's also
45 years old.
Mark is
an amazing
Taekwondo star.
He came here from Korea.
And they said that what he did
to the United States was he like,
he made like the McDonald's of
Taekwondo like he franchised out
Taekwondo all around Florida
specifically Orlando
and when he was making this movie
one he never had to get permits
because everyone in Orlando loved him so much
he could shoot wherever he wanted and two
he used all of his students
in the movie. So they're not
none of them are actors, they're just his students
Yeah, yeah
So how did Giant Michael Phelts
get in the movie? Well I mean
Giant Michael Phelps is probably
forced to ease he's so good at swimming
you've got to do an extracurricular
to kind of bounce it out.
What about Jim, though?
Jim doesn't do taekwondo.
Oh, so maybe Jim was one of the guys
who got it through an audition, straight up audition.
Guess who was the casting director on this movie?
Who was it?
It was Y.K. Kim.
Story by Y.
Story by him.
He was the casting director, writer, and producer,
along with the other guys
who were also associate producers,
production supervisor,
lyricists for all the songs.
It was a, you know, it was a one-man band this movie.
YK. Kim also came in to direct the final scene of the film.
Oh, he didn't direct it?
He did not direct it.
He just directed the final scene.
The jungle sequence?
No.
The hospital sequence.
Because when it screened, and I want to make sure I get this right,
when it's screened, I want to say in Cann.
I feel like that's wrong.
No.
when it screened in can
when it won the palm door
yep when it screened in can
in 1987
what's happening right now
what's going on
did it just screen like
I have more information to drop
we'll move on and we'll get back to something
when it's screen in can someone told him the ending was a bummer
that Jim died and he's like well we got to reshoot
the ending so him
and a very skeleton crew
just went in there
and shot that final scene
where they took a young man
and put some white talk about it
and made him an older man.
How crazy was that?
And all of them miraculously healed
from the events of an hour ago.
Jim's...
Jan found shirts.
Jim's dad
is conservatively
15 years younger than Jim.
You could not...
The man playing Jim's dad is arguably 16 years old wearing old man makeup.
Well, Jason, I will again say, old man makeup is a much more of that.
I'm sorry, gray in his hair.
Yeah.
This is wild.
This is the reshoot scene.
Doctor, how was my son?
Jim was extremely fortunate.
The wounds weren't as deep as we initially thought.
He did lose a lot of blood, but there was very little internal damage.
Oh, thank God.
When can we see him?
I'll hear me all shortly.
I'm going to leave him under your care tonight.
He needs plenty of rest.
If you have any problems, just give me a call.
Thank you, doctor.
Your being here has meant a lot to you.
Shaking hands for so long.
This guy was just stabbed in the gut,
screamed,
and stabbed in the gut in such a violent way.
He is being sent home on his own recognizance now.
Like that night.
You're not even sent home on the same day.
I love this movie.
I want to talk about the bad guy gym,
where all the bad guys just lift weights.
Oh, Jim.
Where it's like, it looks like a gym that you might go and work out in,
except all the bad guys in town are there, just working out.
Well, let's just like maybe just for the lay of the land, just go over,
All the different groupings, right?
Okay, great.
So you have the band ninjas.
Sound dragon.
Right, you got Sound dragon.
Then you got the hairy guy and his team.
Is his name Jeff?
Yes.
Yes.
Okay, you've got Harry Jeff.
Jeff, who is Jane's brother.
Who's Jane's brother?
They also have another sibling, but we'll get to that.
Oh, yeah.
They do?
A lot of questions there.
By the way, the story of what happened to their parents is insane.
Okay, that's.
Do you not know the siblings, Jeff, Jane?
and Yoshito.
I know them really well.
What happened to their parents,
so she says her dad left her mom
when she was like seven years old.
Giant Michael Phelps,
who is her boyfriend,
says to her,
so what's a big family situation?
What's that whole deal?
Well, first of all,
he calls her out of class
in a very flirtatious way to be,
come on, come on, let's have fun.
Hey, so we never talked about your family.
Give me the lowdown.
Like that was the fun.
I've actually transcribed that little bit.
June, do you want to read with me?
Please.
Right, so you play the part of Jane, I shall be John.
Great.
I have a brother, as a matter of fact.
If it wasn't for him, I wouldn't be going to this nice school
or staying in this nice dorm I'm staying in.
That's really nice of him.
Except for one thing.
I don't really like him.
What?
You don't like you.
your own brother, why?
Well, I can't really explain it.
I just don't like him.
Unseen.
Remember explaining anything else?
Brilliant.
I'm glad we cleared that out.
Hearing you guys do it, bring it.
It's crazy.
I would legit pay for a shot-for-shot remake
of this movie starring the two of you.
Oh, my God.
So the way she describes what happened to her parents
and how they're orphaned is that her dad left when she was seven,
her mom died immediately after he left,
and then immediately after that, her dad died.
Rough year.
Rough year.
And it sounds just like, wow, that...
If you're that dad and you've left your...
If you've left your wife and kids,
and then she dies right away, and then you die right away,
it's like, wow, I really hope it was worth it.
I really hope it was worth it.
Yeah.
For those final years to be just full of turmoil.
Anyway.
So we got, all right, so we got Jim.
Right, so we got our band ninjas.
We got our gym ninja.
No, they're not ninjas.
They're like the bikers.
The hairy guys team?
Yeah, they're bike.
They're not ninjas.
They're like thugs, I feel like.
Okay.
They're like just tough guys.
And then there's the,
then there's a group of also biker ninjas
who are the higher guys.
That's the guy who lives in Miami.
They're the cocaine guys.
They're the cocaine guys.
So that's the other contingent.
And then there's another set of bad guys,
which is another band that we've never seen play.
I was confused by it.
I don't understand this.
Were they actually a band?
Well, that guy, so one guy is the club.
The guy with the gun, right?
The guy, it's my favorite scene in the whole movie.
We don't have it as a clip where two guys stand next to each other
and are screaming at each other from the moment one.
see the spit flying out of their mouth.
And so one of that guy, that guy's in a band.
He's like, how can you not bust me in a band?
I don't like your band anymore.
Well, all right, no, no.
Like that's the whole scene.
And so that guy, the guy who was in the band,
goes to Jim and is like, go, Jeff.
Hairy guy?
Jeff, Harry guy.
Goes to Harry guy.
He's like, kill that band.
And then.
But Jeff was on.
already doing it because
giant Michael Phelps is
Stenkel blasting his sister
and then if you do that
we'll give you all of our earnings
all the earnings
not a percentage
yeah not a percentage
all of it so they're now working at
let's not be around the bush in a bar
for free
for free
I'm sorry
so wait but why does Jeff
want to kill Michael Phelps
Because he's blasting his sister.
But that's the only...
So, God, what did happen between the two of them?
Because Harry Guy was like,
I don't want you dating this second-rate musician.
He has...
He's like, yeah, I fucking do drug deals on the side.
I don't want you associating with musicians.
He's looking out for his sister.
He's like, focus on school, do your classes.
Don't get distracted by this nonsense in this guy.
Never see him again.
There's school, by the way, which came in fourth place.
And they're like, hey, good.
news everybody we came in fourth place and then the computer teacher walks around the
good job good job nice circle nice circle nice circle and that's too like how he was like weirdly
touching the women's shoulders as he walked by that whole scene made me feel nauseous oh so here's
my theory on why I think they want to kill the band or why people get because the band is
revealing plot points of the cartel because they all right they don't they sing the song as
Through song?
Bikers by day,
ninjas by night,
steal all your cocaine.
Wasn't that?
Oh no.
They found us out.
Yeah.
They're penning a lyric.
So you think they're writing
like social issue
documentary
like songs that are
exposing the crime
syndicate?
That would be amazing.
I mean,
their songs were
pretty much exposing
the underbelly of Miami.
Are we going to talk
about the beach scene?
Oh.
Are we going to talk about
the beach scene?
the beach sequence.
How many times do people walk up to other people
and just walk up to strangers and say,
can I get a kiss?
Also, I have a quick question.
Can you do that?
Do you think there were any release forms involved
when the camera just went around the beach?
No, no one.
No one was in anything.
I think this falls under YK Kim
can do anything in Orlando.
Yeah, you got, but here's what I found.
Here's what I found most disturbing about that montage.
It starts off, you know, the band is driving on the beach
and they're like gawking at girls.
Like, you know, it's like, girls of bikinis,
girls in bikinis, girls in bikinis.
Old person on a scooter.
Ooh, child.
Young child.
Kids.
It's like the images become more.
And when you juxtapose the obviously meant
to be sexualized kind of buns and boobs on the beach
with just shots of children.
It's terrible.
What is going on?
I couldn't believe also that they set up
our good guys this way.
Yeah.
Oh, just, oh, just predators.
Walks up to a girl and is like,
hey, can I get a kiss?
He is pushed to the ground
where he lands in another girl's cleavage,
then rolls around on a bunch of girls
who appear to just have a tickle fight with him.
So upsetting.
And that is his punishment for being a creep.
And the most upsetting shot, though,
was when I think one of the
girls is, a girl in a bikini
is like biking or roller skating
passed, I think one of our guys
and he's sitting down with like a
water gun. Does anybody else
remember this? Like a oozy
water gun. This is it. He sprays water
at her. This is the shot where they...
Yeah. That was it. We just saw it.
Yeah, I don't think that's one of our guys that.
Childs kids. By the way,
Paul, can you rewind a little bit?
Like, here we are.
Here we are. Yeah. Okay.
Oh, here we are, summer, summer having a crazy time.
We're just friends, just friends.
Buns and brews down at the beach.
This guy's wearing a hat, just oats.
Bonds and friends.
Bonds and friends, plus a creep, driving down the boardwalk.
Kids alone.
Kids alone at the beach.
These kids are lost.
Kids are selling their bodies.
What's wrong?
Just guys hanging out.
Attacking women sexually.
Just Oates wants a kiss
pushed into ladies' boobs.
This movie's amazing.
The other movie about the kids
living under the pier, though?
That's a sad movie.
By the way, don't put a shot
after those shots of grown women in bikinis.
How dare you cut to a shot
of a little girl also in a bikini
showering?
That's really disturbing.
It was, it took me,
But it was like...
None of those children
have parents.
It's an orphan beach.
It's an orphan beach.
Oh, that's true.
This might just be orphaned beach.
You're right.
But, it's a theme.
When this guy falls
on the girls, he exists
on those girls for
such a long time.
Yeah, he knew exactly what he was doing.
Oh, yeah. Even with giant
Michael Phelps tries to pull him off,
he is like flailing around.
as if he's still being attacked.
Well, because he's pretending that he is.
I guess so.
Also, when you get to the credits later on
and they're showing each character individually,
that's the bit that they show for that character,
him just being slapped by women.
That was his only...
Now, as disturbing as everything we just described was,
none of it comes close to how the beach scene ends,
which is our...
two lovers
in this film.
In a beach chair
in the ocean.
So good.
Slow kissing
as if they've never
kissed before.
No, not if they've never
kissed each other,
as if they've never had a kiss.
Yeah.
It's just a quick peck, though, isn't it?
Oh, no.
We don't even need sound for it.
We just see
just a slow...
It's like short, these weird short kisses.
There's like no, there's no opening of the mouth.
They never open the mouth and get into any kind of rhythm.
It's just like.
No, it's like these hard, fast, slow, long quick.
It feels like when you put peanut butter
like on a horse's tongue to make them like talk in a movie or something like that.
They both had, like,
they're trying to get the peanut butter
out of their own mouth.
The thing that I think about that scene, too,
is, like, clearly they're like,
oh, we want to do, like, a from here to eternity kind of scene.
Like, you're rolling around on the beach.
That didn't work for whatever reason.
Like, let's put the beach chair in the ocean.
And you'll just kind of be jumping up out of the...
Like, it's the most...
I've never seen that ever.
It's like Y.K. Kim as well, said,
you know, we've got it from one...
side, got it from one angle, I don't think we've got
enough in that nine seconds.
We'll flip to the other side
so we can get another perspective.
It is.
It's a weird, man.
He's, you know, like I said, a
giant, and she's
teeny tiny, so there's a lot of it that's
really weird. I just didn't care for it
physically.
Oh.
Well, there's
also, in the clip we were playing before where
they're driving down the boardwalk and Just Oates is posing
and stuff. There is somebody who has the line
hold on. He goes,
they don't make buns like that down at the
bakery.
Which made me
really excited. To me, the
ad-libs or the things
that kept the scenes like alive
were my favorite part because
it was like just these little moments where
it would be almost repetition of it.
Like there's one moment where
they're getting excited about something in the
apartment that they all live in. And
I want to talk about that for one year.
And he goes, hey, he's like, hey, hey, quiet down.
You're going to wake the neighbors.
And then, like, it switches and goes, like, hey, you're going to wake the neighbors.
Like, it was almost like, it was.
I do that thing.
I feel like this happens in the room, too, where every character has to have a response to something.
Like, when Jim is opening his letter from the Defense Department.
Oh.
And he's taking a while to open, and every character is like,
You should open your letter.
That's a letter you should open.
But really, open a letter.
This is a letter.
We want to hear what is in that letter.
Like, everyone has something to say about this moment.
And it's testament to that they are such good friends
and they're invested in each other's lives.
And they're also doing that thing that we all do
when we're hanging out with our friends at home
as we take our shirts off and put a towel over our shoulder.
Because throughout the movie, all of them are shirtless with a shoulder towel.
Like, that's a dude hanging out at home.
And Jim has never zipped up his flies.
Jim's pants are slightly undone at any given point.
I also like when they got mail another time
and Hall or was it, Hall or Oates, which one is it again?
Oates. Oates.
Oates is like, oh, right, what we got here.
This is a piece of mail, and this is a piece of mail,
and this is a piece.
No, and nothing is necessary in that scene.
It's just like watching a person hand out mail
That has no consequence to anything.
As if he doesn't understand conceptually how male works,
that each of those is for one of the people in the house.
It has not just arrived for the home, the home's male.
Holy cow.
The first, okay, I'm just going to dive straight into Jim's story
looking for his father.
Amazing.
An Oscar-winning performance for Jim.
This is a staggering monologue
that I found to be hypnotic.
I watched it many times.
I found a clip of it on YouTube
just so I could watch it only a bunch.
It's phenomenal.
Jay's do you want to take a crack at it
and then we can see how you stack up.
Let's see how we, let's, yeah, I feel like we all have it.
Let's, let's, let's give it a,
let's share you with, let's give it a whirl.
Oh boy, okay.
Jim, do you have yours there?
I've got it, I've got it.
All right, hold on that.
So, so, okay, so wait a second,
why Kay Kim says, wait, I thought we were all orphans, right?
Yes.
And then Jim goes, that's my father.
He walks out of the scene, yeah.
We get a spotlight.
We should be the other three.
to be the other three.
And bearing in mind, the three in the background
is the fine line between trying to cry
and trying not to laugh.
That's what I did.
My mother was Korean,
and my father was black American.
She gave me this picture when she was real sick.
I was only nine years old.
They say that they loved each other
and were real loyal.
And real.
happy. But then when he finished military duty, he left. And we never saw him again.
She told me to find him, but I didn't like him because he left us. But I knew one day when
I grew up, I'd find him where he was dead or alive. I sent a couple letters to the defense
Department.
And nothing happened.
And scene.
And scene.
Oh, my God.
Now, that was a one, no, wasn't it?
It was a one take.
I can't follow that.
I mean, that's good.
He does really deliberate, though.
Oh, there's tears.
He steps forward into a spotlight in a movie.
Well, by the way, I'm going to say this.
I don't, I think he just found this, like,
there are scenes in this movie where people are reading books
in the complete dark.
I feel like lighting in this movie was a mystery.
Like the man who shot fire out of his hands
and then never returned in the credits.
In the credits of the movie,
he shoots fire from his hands.
We never see that again.
Um, okay, I thought for sure, yeah, well, at the end, they'll shoot fire.
Uh, well, just take a taste of how Jim does it.
Oh.
This looks like your brother.
I didn't know you have a brother.
It's my father.
What?
This is your real father?
Yes, it is.
You sure?
I didn't know you had a father.
I thought we are all, all fans.
Father.
Some of not wearing shirts.
My mother was Korean.
And my father was black American.
She gave me this picture and she was real sick.
I was only nine years old.
They say that they loved each other and they were real loyal.
He was glad.
But then when he finished military duty, he left.
And we never saw him again.
She told me to find him.
But I didn't like him because he left us.
But I knew one day when I grew up, I'd find him
Whether he was dead or alive.
I sent a couple letters to the first apartment.
Nothing happened.
Can't be the real thing.
Why K. Kim in the last minute just kind of creeps really slowly behind him.
Like completely masked.
Why Kay Kim's character throughout the movie
is learning stuff about his friends
at every turn.
In the previous scene,
he learns that the other,
the drummer is of Israeli heritage.
He's like, I didn't know that.
Like, he doesn't know anything about these people.
He knows that they all like grapes.
Yep.
By the way, though,
so we're, how many minutes into this podcast?
We've done a lot.
What is this movie about?
Wow.
What is it about?
What's about following your dreams and your heart?
And then, you know, sometimes people want to stop you with force
and you have to be strong enough to get out there
and you can't be under the thumb of your drug dealing brother.
You've got to make your own decisions and that's it.
And also, only through the elimination of violence.
That's what it is.
Can we achieve world peace?
Despite the movie being solely violent.
The heroes...
After a 20-minute fight scene in the jungle.
The heroes of the movie are murderers.
Murderers.
Are unrepenting murderers.
Michael Phelps kills his girlfriend's brother,
and she's like, nah, that's okay.
Yeah.
And he basically chucks it up to, like, my bad?
Actually, I've transcribed that one as well.
Oh, fantastic.
I'll be John, you'd be Jane.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm so sorry about what happened.
I felt so bad about that.
Bear in mind, he's talking about killing her brother,
which happened just a few hours ago.
That's not your fault, I understand.
See, we had to do it.
We had no choice.
understand it's all over now that's true it's okay we're happy for Jim brilliant
yeah so we're all happy for Jim she is a low-maintenance girlfriend she's not gonna make it
about her you know her friends you know her friends are like Jane what are you
doing you have to dump him he killed your brother he and his
friends are murderers.
And yeah, their tunes are banging.
But again, he killed your brother.
Do you think she's, like, out of school now?
I'm pretty sure that her brother was molesting her from the age of, like, 15 to...
Really?
Yeah.
Like, that's the only thing that makes sense.
Well, he's very jealous.
He's, like, jealous the way only a lover can be.
a lover
he's a jealous brother lover
and that's the reason why she's not upset
that he's dead
if anything I think she feels relieved
well she did say early on
she sets the stage for this she says I don't like him
right which makes it cool to be killed
and also I think what really gave me insight
to her relationship with her brother is in flashback
it's the most innocuous like
they have this like thing and you see a flashback
of her and her brother it's like
him just like, an inconsequential life flashback.
I'd be like, oh, my brother.
And it's just like, them in front of the school.
Like, it's just like a flash.
Like, that was the only moment.
She's like, oh, yeah, I remember him.
Right, yeah, he was the hairy guy.
All right, it's a cool.
That's cool.
By the way, if Jim's sword wound did not kill him,
dragging him through a stagnant pond,
is certainly going to do it.
It's going to get infected.
Oh, he would have lived.
but, like, apparently all of the bacteria
was shoved into his body
when you dragged him through swamp water.
You fucking morons.
Little do you know about the suits
that they make in Orlando.
They are swamp resistant.
And so when you got a nice Orlando suit,
you can fall right off one of those gator boats
and you'll be fine.
We haven't talked about the train yard fight.
We haven't talked about the bikers.
We haven't talked about the b-roll of bikers.
Bikers?
We're all real and paid in beer.
Yeah.
Truth.
Bikers all real paid in beer.
Also, I read in the little trivia section
that Jane's real boyfriend was just oats.
And in the movie, her boyfriend is Giant Michael Phelps.
And so whenever they had to do makeout scenes,
they would send Just Oats out for beer.
They'd be like, hey, Just Oates.
Go get us some beers, will you?
And he'd come back and they'd be like,
your girlfriend just made out with Giant Michael Phelps.
You idiot, you fell for it.
What are you guys shooting today?
Oh, just the scene at the beach in the sea.
Don't worry about it.
Can I get some beers?
He's like, I'll make it up.
I'll just roll on women.
Also, how about the fact that there is a scene?
I love the scene where Jeff's gang of biker thugs
were tailing Sound Dragon in a white Volvo.
Like, the bad guy's car was just a boxy safe white Volvo.
I was like, they just are doing,
like, oh, well, my mom's got a car.
We'll do it. Bring it.
By the way, speaking of this, every time
there was a fight in this movie, I thought, June, this is actually
a great movie for you because I think you finally
get your answer to what's a street fighter, because
every time in this movie, it would
seem like a bunch of people would get in the street
and fight. They would always just, like,
block a thoroughfare, and seemingly
like 40 people without any stunt coordination
just went at it. Just going to town on each other.
There was a lot of, like,
people, like, standing in convertible
like going like this,
just like raising one arm over and over.
There was a lot of like
Sound Dragon is vastly outnumbered
and then they kick ass like poorly.
Yes.
And defeat like people who sometimes have guns.
Well, that's what's so weird
about the statement you read
at the end of the movie about World Peace
and not using violence.
You never see them struggle to not fight.
They never try and turn down a fight.
No.
Which isn't that the whole thing about martial arts
that you learn how to fight so that you don't have to?
Yeah.
No, they just go for it.
If you have the ability to hold someone's nose with your toe.
You're going to want to do that.
Then you're going to use that, aren't you?
I totally hear that.
As much as you can.
There was one funny moment in that scene where they get pulled,
when they get stopped in the street of downtown Orlando.
and...
Miami?
Oh, no, Orlando.
Where one of the characters
comes over and is going to pour beer on all their heads.
Oh, yeah.
So he could hit...
He can get Y. K. Kim, because he's right by him.
But he really can't reach Michael Phelps.
So Michael Phelps leans in
to get the beer poured on his...
All right.
He helps them.
I loved that the bad guys were like,
hey, Jerry, get over here.
Do you? Do it?
So whatever.
There's like dozens of bad guys, like, with guns.
Right, with guns.
And then this guy comes in like, oh, and you think, oh, he's got to be their most badass guy.
All he does is pour beer on their heads.
That's his big move, which is crazy.
There's a tough guy's song in this movie.
Do you have the tough guy's song, Paul?
Oh, you bet.
By the way.
Fuck, yes.
This is some next level shit.
Let's all fuck to this tonight.
night.
Like, do it, do it, people.
That is no surprise.
My favorite is when he goes into the bar
and kisses the bartender.
I was like, what?
That bar.
That bar, that scene is crazy.
because it has two of the main bad guys there.
They get at the bar, and then they have a conversation
where the mics are not on.
And it's kind of like, it's like a moment
where they're kind of meeting up to talk about something big.
And you don't hear what they're talking about.
It's like, that should be a huge plot point in the movie.
Not like a montage roll over the scene.
Oh, my God.
This movie is great.
I think you guys are lucky.
So much good stuff.
Well, let me tell you a little bit about the movie,
just a little bit more,
and then we'll talk to the audience.
So, long story short,
they get a distribution company
to purchase this film for $100,000.
It opens in eight theaters in Orlando.
That was the release plan,
and had a very poor critical reception,
and it ended after three weeks.
Never to be heard,
from a kid. Sorry, what year is this?
Eighty-seven. Okay.
Then, in 2009, a programmer at the Alamo Draft House
was on eBay and saw the listing for a 35-millimeter
print of the film for $35.
And in 2010, screened the film.
People went nuts.
And the draft house was like, holy shit,
we found, like, the room of the 80s.
the Tommy was over
I'm not the Bree Larson room
and
although some of these people
might have been forced
into acting in this movie
in a room scenario
so basically
then they call YK Kim
and they're like
we want to release your movie
hangs up on them multiple times
he thinks it's a prank
and then
no we really want it
he's like really and they go yeah
they re-released this movie
in 2012. It was missing.
No one saw it. It wasn't
available from 87 to
2012 and it just
is a, it's a recent
find that Alamo Draft House
happened to find because someone was
on eBay and found this thing
and then screened it. It would
have, it would have only been those
eight theaters in Orlando
for that run.
And so now the movie
has become, you know,
a big success and there's been
money made from it, the million dollar budget
and just to show you
well, well, we'll get into that at the end.
But yeah, so that is that...
That's amazing. Yeah, it's pretty amazing.
And just deserved.
Yeah, it came back.
I love that as a...
Like, I love that it's lost
for all of those years.
And then came out of nowhere
and now, you know, he's getting some success off of it.
And he's still alive.
Has he made a second one yet?
By the way, he should. That would be
amazing with the same
cast. The Orlando
Connection, all shot in Miami.
And plus
Phelps can probably
finance it now. Well,
let's go into the crowd and
see if you guys have anything
to bring up that we might have
missed. Anything at
all? All right, sir, how are you?
What's your name? What's your question?
My name is Casey, and I wanted to
acknowledge during the train yard fight,
one of the henchmen who I nicknamed
kid rock crocktop
who did like
he like kind of humped
like the mound of dirt
while Giant Michael Phelps
was fighting to other guys and then he just
danced for him
and then Giant Michael Phelps punched him out
yeah there was a lot of pretty weird
vignettes in that train yard fight
all right here we go
let's see what's going on here
there were three there were three
he made some air though didn't he
once he got kicked
Yeah.
He went,
there were three bad guys
that I found
very funny and compelling.
That guy,
also the little
methy kind of skinny guy
with him and the big guy.
Anyway, it doesn't matter.
All right, ma'am,
your name, your question.
My name's Jody,
and my question is,
in the final scene
when they're all sort of
samurai scimitaring each other,
who are the people on the bridge?
Are they just like...
Like observers?
Yeah.
I feel like those are people
that were like Orlando local.
who heard like, hey, they're shooting a movie down by the bridge.
Can we watch?
And then YK was like, yeah, you can even be in it, really.
It doesn't make a difference.
Watching people die, like getting...
Yeah, they're not in it.
They're not in it.
They're just watching and see how it all goes down.
But if you think about it, like...
If there are ninjas in your town,
you would go out to see them, too.
That posits a world, though, in which, like,
ordinary people out for a walk in the park
witness a ninja fight that ends in multiple murders.
I also noticed that and questioned it,
but I was too distracted by what was going on with Yoshito
when he was fighting
very clearly was not Yoshito.
No.
It was...
The Sunman had a mustache at one point.
I think it was Dead Jeff.
Actor, Dead Jeff, had come back to play Yoshito
and the thing is very, very obvious.
I believe that was a reshoot and you're 100% right.
Yeah, that was...
They have to make do with what they had.
Yes, sir.
Your name and your question.
My name's Kevin.
And I'm wondering if you're a ninja
and you're trying to be all stealthy,
would you pull up in your loud-ass motorcycle everywhere?
Totally true.
Totally true.
I mean, what do these ninjas do?
What are they up to otherwise?
Like, what are...
Aside from...
That's in a lyric somewhere
in one of the songs, isn't it?
That they're ninjas by night.
What is it they do during the day?
They're bikers by day.
Bikers by day, ninjas by night.
How are they earning money?
Bikers get into some shit, you know?
It really is, like, it's the duality of life.
You know, the loud bike during the day
and the quiet stealth of the ninja.
You know, it's been really yin-yang.
You've got two outfits in your wardrobe.
You've got your leathers.
And then your full taekwondo gear.
Yeah.
You know what I liked about him, too?
When he was riding that motorcycle,
look fully comfortable on it.
Like, he, in the tough guy's song,
he's supposed to be like, I'm a tough guy.
And it looks like bugs are flying into his face.
He's like trying to avoid bugs a little bit as it's coming out.
Yes, sir, your name of your question.
My name is Frank, and I really want to know,
are we going to address the crazy family tree
between the Snow Ninja and Harry Little Jeff?
Yeah, well, with Yoshito.
Right, well, Jane, Jeff, and Yashito.
Obviously, I had to re-watch this scene a few times
because I thought, do you think it was a typo in the script
or a misdelivery by the actor when he went,
I'm so sorry, but your brother, Jeff, is dead?
Was it like originally scripted, brother?
I've got to tell you that Jeff is dead.
And it's now turned, and you're going, hang on,
Jeff, Jane, and Yoshito all grew up together?
Well, I am remembering that their parents,
so the dad who died very shortly after the mom,
that dad, I'm pretty sure,
left them and married someone else
or left for another woman.
So maybe that woman...
Maybe it's a half?
Maybe she does a half.
But he seems the oldest.
Also, Jane and Jeff do not look alike at all.
he is
covered in here
yeah that's the thing
I think it's so hard to know
without that amount of hair
if they look alike or not
I think there's no way to tell
but I assume
I guess I assumed that Yashito
was not a blood brother
but was like a brother to him
like a friend brother
did Jane mention Yashita?
No no mention of him
boy
Yashito also has very
lax entrance policies in the temple
Like, people just kind of barge in on him
when he seems to have all the ninjas
in a kneeling position and talking.
When the ninjas in the beginning of the movie,
I forgot about this, when they go to grab the cocaine,
they grab a handful of it
and let it sift through their fingers
as if that's some sort of indication of like,
that's the cocaine.
Like, you know, normally you wipe some on your gums or whatever,
but they just seem like to scoop up a handful
and then run.
And leaving also bags of cocaine.
Fully intact bags of cocaine there.
These are bad ninjas.
Great bikers. Great bikers.
What was the ninja's plan?
Did we know what they were fighting for?
No idea.
Coke?
Did they want the Coke trade?
I thought that he was, I don't know.
He was just bringing in that man.
I mean, I don't want to like stymie us all here, but like...
Does anyone have a clear idea of what the ninjas were fighting for?
Oh, Miami, I'm going to come around here.
You seem to really feel like you got it.
If it's YK. Kim, I'm going to freak out.
Can you come over here just a little bit?
All right, here we go.
All right, tell me what your theory is.
All right, so the Miami connection is Yoshito.
He's the plug.
He's a drug dealer in Miami that brings the drugs to Orlando.
That's the Miami connection.
Okay.
That's all they want.
So they're not siblings, really.
Well, that doesn't answer that necessarily.
He said it, though, so emphatically, I bought it.
But it does answer...
But it does bring up other questions.
It does answer the Miami connection of it all.
Yeah, I like that.
Which I appreciate.
All right, ma'am.
Your name, your question.
My name is Megan, and my question is,
how much is the band getting paid
because they're all driving around in one car,
which the convertible top doesn't seem to work
because it's raining?
I want to talk to the same just enough to buy grapes.
Well, there's a couple things I want to say.
First of all,
they are spending all their money on the pyrotechnics
in the small club,
but that's normally for a big verena.
But I love that they got in that convertible,
and if you watch that scene,
they have trouble getting into that con.
So I counted at least two people, like,
it was not a graceful jump in.
It was as if you, like,
they didn't know how to navigate it at all.
Yeah.
Well, they're also, like, all of them are physically bizarre.
Yeah, they all look.
like, you know, those
crazy drawings that people do
of you at fairs and stuff?
Carricatures? They are all
caricatures. They all sort of look like characters.
Like big giant heads, riding tiny skateboards.
Holding a tennis racket.
Especially when they're moving around
on the stage during
the songs. I don't know whether
any of you noticed, but none of the
instruments are plugged in. None.
And they're all playing guitar.
They're all playing guitar. There's like three guitars.
Y. K. Kim's doing his very best.
Like this, you know, gliding between one note.
Even still, the songs are fucking great.
Amazes.
Songs are great.
They nailed it.
Now it's time for a second opinion.
It's just that your opinion on this movie is no good,
and you really didn't watch it in the context that you should.
My opinion might be second, but beside it I have stood.
I'd give this movie all five stars and six stars if I could.
Yes!
Unless on!
Wait.
You could go right there.
You can go back.
Give it for Alyssa.
And Alyssa, Coomate is with,
what's your name, sir?
Cash.
Cash.
Now it's time for a second opinion.
My, oh my, now what can you do
when having one opinion just won't do?
We thought the movie bad, but we could be wrong.
Let's check out some reviews from Amazon.
Some reviews from people that hold this movie dear,
read with passion by my man Paul Shear.
We got to take a second look.
this movie couldn't have been a failure.
There's a decapitation in the motherfucking trailer.
Yes.
Amazing.
Thank you so much.
That was amazing.
Great job.
Wow.
Stellar.
Stellar, stellar, stellar, stellar stuff.
Amazing.
Oh, wow.
They're in the same row, too.
All right.
So, obviously, like I said,
the second opinions here,
they really aren't, they're not,
they're not great because they love the movie.
but I'll read them anyway.
Okay, this one is from Jamie Gross,
written November 13th, 2014.
Catchy tunes, sweet action moves,
and an important underlying message
about the importance of family,
whether it be by blood or other bonds.
Five stars.
And then this one right here,
this is from just an Amazon,
customer. It's titled, I can't help it. I really like this movie. The songs from the
band stick in your head. I live about 50 miles away from Orlando. Five stars. Just laying down
some facts. I don't know. It's as if to say, I could go see Sound Dragon if I wanted to.
And then finally, this one from Andrew Rodellus.
And it says like this.
Miami Connection is the epitome of movies that happen to combine Florida, ninjas, martial arts, and music into one thing.
Between the interesting facets of Dragon Sound, the escalation of violence in the movie.
It reminds me a bit of the original Mad Max, oddly enough, especially considering the biker gangs.
and the character of Jane, who echoes some of the feminist ideas,
since her character arc is sort of all about doing what she wants
and not obeying Jeff.
There are some things that emerge here about Miami Connection
that suggests it's not merely a brainless action flick.
Five stars.
Wow.
So that is, those are some very sincere, sincere, Jin.
No, I love.
this movie. I really do. It's just so
crazy. So crazy.
Can we play some of these
songs? Well, I want to play the songs, but I have
two treats here.
The first being this.
This is the original end.
Okay, so
it, let's see. The one that's green at
Khan. The one that's, yeah.
This is what the audience is in France
saw. All right, so
let's see.
Jim.
Don't die, Jim.
My father.
Come on, hang on.
Where's your shirt, bro?
I'll see my phone.
Don't die.
Please.
You are alive.
Peace.
You are alive.
Jim.
Hang on and we get to the hospital.
Jim, you cannot die.
You need to die.
You need to see your father.
Hang on.
Jim, your father is coming now.
Oh, no, Jim's father's on that plane.
Wow!
Jim dies in the back of the car
just as his father's plane lands in Orlando.
Flies right over them.
Flies literally right over them.
Which makes sense why they stopped the car
when Jim was dying.
On a flight path.
If they're on a flight path,
then how did he know he was all?
on that plane if the plane comes in every five minutes.
I didn't know, I didn't forget the one detail
that I loved is that Jim's tie is also cut in half
when he is stabbed.
That is a dark ending.
And they went for it.
And now, because I think it's this,
I think we're all a little bit interested,
this is a documentary, this is kind of the best of this documentary.
So we get to see where these people are right now.
So, take a quick look at them now.
It's short, but here we go.
My mother was Korean, and my father was black American.
That was very intense.
That was boohoo crying.
And it took about two hours for that last,
what you see on the movie, that that seemed to be done.
We're putting onion under my eyes and eye drops.
And finally, I just recalled something from the past
and got a little bit out.
But the first cut that they didn't take,
that was a good one.
You were fine, your father.
It did come out.
Funny that I always thought it was a good film.
You know, had a nice little story and not perfect,
lots of little quirky things.
And oh my God, oh my God.
Oh my God!
It told me.
I mean, that's just, it is what it is.
The musical force behind Dragon Sound was the lead singer and the guitar player, Angelo and Kathy.
They were actual musicians and they wrote the songs.
They also helped us in terms of getting the musical instruments, getting drums, getting all the equipment,
coaching us on how to look on camera, you know, playing air guitar and things like that.
I have a little rhythm. I have a little rhythm.
I look, I did well, I thought.
I thought for non-artist.
It was that kind of new wave-ish time and period.
I believe the songs that Angelo and Kathy wrote
really reflected the spirit and the feeling
that happened in that club.
So it was very realistic from that perspective.
Against the Ninja, I believe we may have done that in one day.
We run in on a Tuesday.
I don't know if we can't.
I think we came back the next night with it.
Demo because we had a four-track studio,
so put it together and he loved it.
I want a dragon sound t-shirt.
They're available.
I think you could have one made pretty easy.
By the way, we should make, that should be our next
how did this get made shirt, a dragon sound t-jured.
Oh, he's wearing one right there.
What?
Oh, did you get that?
That's awesome.
Love it.
No sleeves on that shirt.
That looks amazing.
Wow.
I feel like we could do a whole episode on those like two minutes.
What has gone on?
I would do a whole second episode just on the music.
Oh, it really is great.
Is there anything, as we are winding down here,
that we didn't talk about that anyone wants to bring up
before we find out if you'd recommend it,
although I feel like that's a...
I've forgotten about that all-lace suit.
The all-laced white suit.
So just want to talk about.
about it for a second I've never seen lace pants it would seem to me really
hard to keep in shape like like physical shape right yeah I wanted a close-up so I
could see how how they lay because I couldn't understand what they were I mean
that outfit was just amazing I love to talk about the grapes last time yeah
Right, so I don't know whether you remember,
there's a scene where YK. Kim goes around all the other characters,
and he doesn't have any dialogue in that scene.
So he's obviously saying to himself,
what can I do, what can I do in this scene?
So he grabs a bunch of grapes and just feeds them to all his friends.
And then goes to the next one and just keeps going around,
like four or five grapes.
It's sort of like this homoerotic kind of gesture.
Do you see it as a Christ allegory?
Eat of this grape.
It is my flesh.
Right?
He's definitely like the Christ of this movie
like I can.
Yeah, I can't remember what happened in the scene.
I can't imagine it being that important
what happened in the scene.
Well, I mean, there are those scenes
that make no sense.
There's a scene where they just all eat
and the chef just looks at them
and's like, good job.
I'm glad you're enjoying my food.
I had a question about that scene.
When they get there to that restaurant,
the owner is being beat up, right?
And he's wearing a Mickey and Minnie Mouse apron.
Right.
What is his relate?
Is he just also being hassled independent?
Yes.
Wow.
He's only seen that guy.
What's that?
Was that his only scene?
He has two scenes.
One where he's watching the meat.
And he just stands at the front of the table and smiles.
Yeah.
And then the next scene they reference like, oh, he's having a hard time too.
And then like that gang is there and like, this food's shit.
And they just walk out.
Yeah.
And they walk out.
Yeah.
After it's seemingly enjoying it.
Well.
Because I was like, is he tied into something with them as well?
Like, are the people that are hassling them now expanding to hassle?
This guy, I couldn't.
I feel like that guy provided craft service for them,
and they were like, we got to put him in the movie.
I feel like, yeah, yeah, maybe.
Oh, I just, I just remembered.
He's Mark's uncle?
In the movie.
He's not Y.K. Kim's uncle.
Oh, okay.
He's Mark's Uncle.
Oh, one more thing that just came to mind, actually.
You know, when Jane introduces Michael Phelps
to a brother, she said,
oh, this is my friend.
And the brother goes,
A friend?
Really super loud.
And Giant Michael Phelps goes like,
hey, Jeff, nice to meet you, I've heard a lot about you.
And the height, if you can imagine the height discrepancy
between Jane and Giant Michael Phelps
She towers above Jeff.
Jeff could fit in giant Michael Phelps' fanny pack.
Well, I'll go around and ask.
I mean, it's a dumb question, but Jason, do you recommend this movie?
Paul 100% yes.
I would urge our listeners to buy this movie immediately
and watch it with someone that they care about.
I bought it on iTunes, and there's a special documentary
about the music on iTunes.
iTunes, but I believe there's also
a DVD edition that's called
Stupid Cocaine Edition,
and that has a little documentary on it
and stuff like that as well.
June, do you recommend... Yes, of course.
And you said earlier, it is
your type of ninja movie. It is my kind of
ninja movie, for sure.
Chris, do you recommend this movie?
Hey, come on, we are
friends through eternity.
There's loyalty.
There's honesty.
We're going to be together through thick and thin.
Ninja's Day.
Rins forever.
Bikers by day, ninjas by night.
Still the cocaine.
100%.
What a movie.
I also concur by this movie.
It's great.
And before we go out, we have to talk about plugs.
You're the worst coming back this September, early September.
Very exciting.
Is there anything you can even tell us about it?
Yeah, it's season four.
Season three finished, a tiny bit of a spoiler,
but the two are now separated.
And this season is a fun, jam-packed kind of selection
of awful ways that they attempt to get back together.
But it's funnier and sillier and darker than ever.
It's great.
I'm very excited to watch.
Thank you, everyone.
Jason June, what did he got?
anything I got nothing I'm good I will plug an amazing way you can contact your
representatives if you want to which is there's something called resist bot
which maybe people know about maybe they don't but it's literally you put the
number in your phone you text resist to the number and you can they will
fax for you it's run all by volunteers any questions concerns you have to your
representatives you put in your zip code it's amazing it's super easy
But I really recommend it.
It's unbelievable.
And I will just say, I have nothing.
That really lays it down.
I have two things you can watch on Netflix,
which is you can watch this movie opening night.
There's two. Look at the picture and think of the one that I would probably be in
and not pick that one.
And then the other one is Wet Hot American Summer 10 years later.
My character, Dave comes back again for a couple episodes.
a couple episodes.
Thank you all for coming.
Give it up for Chris.
You're great.
Big thanks to April Haley for finding all these amazing clips.
Nick Hiley for doing all this research.
Kelly Alta for pulling it all together.
Awesome, awesome.
Thank you.
Thank you.
July Diaz is at the booth.
Everybody here in Largo.
Thank you.
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