How Did This Get Made? - Milk Money LIVE! (w/ Casey Wilson)

Episode Date: June 16, 2023

Team Sanity member Casey Wilson is back! The Drop Dead Fred crew reconcile in order to discuss 1994's Milk Money starring Melanie Griffith & Ed Harris. LIVE from Largo in LA, they discuss the classroom sex ed scene, the meaning of the film's title, and the numerous uncomfortable moments between V and the boys. Plus, a debate about laundry and pajamas goes off the rails, Paul shares numerous disturbing childhood stories, and an audience member's baby brings June to tears.HDTGM is going on tour! Additional Boston & New Jersey dates added. Buy tix at hdtgm.com Follow Paul on Letterboxd https://letterboxd.com/paulscheer/HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: https://discord.gg/paulscheerCheck out Paul and Rob Huebel live on Twitch (https://www.twitch.tv/friendzone) every Thursday 8-10pm ESTSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael here: listen.earwolf.com/deepdiveSubscribe to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson here: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledCheck out The Jane Club over at www.janeclub.comCheck out new HDTGM merch over at https://www.teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmWhere to find Jason, June & Paul:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on Twitter

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Here's a real question for you out of this kid, hey. Hello, people over here. Hello, people off Los Angeles. Yeah. Yeah. Welcome to How Did This Get Made? I'm your host, Tal John Sheer. And today, we are talking about the 1994 Melanie Griffith, Ed Harris, romcom, children's movie,

about a sex worker and a scientist and really perverted kids. Boy oh boy, we're gonna all break it down, but let me just give you a brief idea of what this plot is. First of all, I'll say this. It feels like this is a film adapted from a very famous French film. It's not. But it feels like, oh no, no, of course this works. No, it's a movie about a young boy whose mother died in childbirth and he longs having a mom.

So he also wants to see a real woman naked. So him and his friends raise 100 bucks. We'll get into all of that. Go to the city to find a sex worker, find her, and then somehow take her home and then tries to get her to marry his widow dad. That's the movie. Wow. Okay, it is a child's film. I think it was made by Disney and watching it, I am shocked on so many levels. Just when you think it can't get weirder, it does. This is like Ari Astor could have made this movie. This is Bo is afraid for night. Like, by the way, look at this. Like put this in the theater now, you're like holy shit, 824, you've gone too far.

But you know what, we will break it all down and I will do it with my co-host, please welcome to the stage. Mr. Jason Manzookas! What's up, jerks? How are we doing, Largo? So Jason, you and I roughly, you know, we're in a similar age group. I remember this poster.

I don't ever feel like I saw this film. Like it felt to me like it was too young for me, even though I was all like I would have been the perfect age group for him. I've never seen this movie. Okay. Didn't know this movie existed. Got it.

Full stop. Okay. This movie is like a Reese's Peanut Buttercup movie. This is, you got your stepmom in my something wild. Right? This is a combination of something wild, the Jonathan Demi movie, where Melanie Griffith takes a young Jeff Daniels down the rabbit hole

of insanity and crime and stuff, except in this movie, the Jeff Daniels character is a little boy. I will say, it felt to me like working girl for kids with sex work, like that's it, it felt like there was an element of that that I was like, oh, this kind of worked. Like, let's do it for me.

It's a day at the time. But present day at the time. But with a sock hop. This movie is a real room for kids. It's just a dead body. I don't know. We're going to break it all down. Instead of, do you want to see a dead body?

It's, do you want to see boobs? We're going to continue to break this down, and I have to do it with my other co-host. Please welcome to the stage, Ms. June Diane Raphael. Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh!

Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Thank you so much. Oh! Oh!

Welcome, June, how are you? I'm well, how are you, Paul? Very well, thank you for asking. June, you and I'm well. How are you, Paul? Very well. Thank you for asking. June, you and I watch Milk Money today, and at many points, we were ushering our children out of the living room. Like, get out of here. You can't watch this with us. Yeah. It was, um,

there were many times watching it where I thought, like, I'm going to be put on a list. And I should be. Like, I need to tell people I saw some of these scenes. You know, I need to come clean. I saw it. I watched it. I had a flashback, a hint of a flashback while watching this movie.

Oh, didn't we do a movie where Patricia Arquette seduces Joe Gordon Levit who's also a tiny child? Yes, that was a movie where, well, I don't, people, and that was Leonard Neymoy. This is Richard Benjamin. Yes. What's up with these weirdos? I don't know.

I truly, because also, you know, I'm a coach, you know, for soccer team, and I've been fingerprinted. And I wanna go back and let the authorities know, like, take another look at me. You know? But I will say, if I'm being fully honest, the most I've ever cried at a How Did This Get Movie, made movie, was this movie?

Me too. I like, I, when we get to it. Oh, the number of times I wrote in my notes, I'm crying, question mark. I'm sobbing at the end of my notes, say, I am wrecked. Hey, listen, Jason. What's the backpack? Stop, stop, stop.

Listen, don't get me wrong. Again, I want to be background check now, but I absolutely loved this move. Same! I absolutely loved it. Same. I absolutely loved it. I love this move.

I'm so much so that Paul, I'm going to need you to bring out our other guests. Well, yes. Because she's the one who introduced me. We've already revealed one of the seven. Here's what I'll say. Oh, boy. For those of you listening, for those of you here in the theater,

a couple of years ago, here in Los Angeles. A lot of old guests. Audible guests. We did a show where we talked about a movie, about a young girl finding herself through an imaginary friend. The movie was called Drop Dead Fred. It was a battle of Will's team Sanity, Team Fred, and not since. I need to understand how you're gonna define Team Fred, but we'll get into that because I think a lot of

people who define Team Fred are actually Team team sanity. Anyway, the thing that I will say is, since that show, this guest has not been on this show. People have assumed that this guest was not allowed back. They were right. The truth is, we needed to find the perfect film. You know her has a member of Team Sanity. You also know her from her incredibly successful podcast, bitch, Sesh, please welcome Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

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Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. We are here to talk about milk money, but I just want everyone to know I could do five more hours Here's what we're moving on and I do think I do think we need to address this to kind of clear this space and clear the air because Do we have some palo Santo to burn? I do want a new experience tonight and I want to start I don't want it to be antagonistic. We're already Paul the way Paul is set the chairs. I know I know. I set up events to each other. I know. But.

I will, yeah, I mean, there's a lot. There's a lot to unpack here. It's hard because just to, I haven't even seen Casey since that night. I've not seen her. And just to see you right now makes me so curious. But Jason. Jason, Casey is one of my very best friends in the world.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I know. And you. Oh, I'm so mad though. And you have to, what you have to know and audience, what you have to know is that after that night, Paul and I drove separately to the show and I got in my car and I called Jason. And we did some time together on the phone.

There were a lot of text going on between the four of us. We talked numerous times over the next few days. And then I wasn't a normal show where you go back and it's like that was crazy, but like, huh. and there were a lot of text going on between the four of us. We talked numerous times over the next few days. And the next couple days, we were talking about, and the next couple days, we were talking about, and the next couple days, we were talking about, and the next couple days, we were talking about, and the next couple days, we were talking about, and the next couple days, we were talking about,

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Yeah, Mitch Garrett. Get the fuck out of here. That was really horrible. Thank you for the art. He's so amazing. And you know, he saw our most toxic cells. Oh, yeah. Fortunately, that night.

I want to just start this one off a little bit differently because we had a great listener to the show. He has a legitimate beer company. It's not made in somebody's house. It's called Wrong Crowd. And it's the where does the butt start pale ale? Wait. What are you talking about?

Well, I will pass these out. I have four of them. I can have cups as well. It's a legitimate. We Googled it, so this is not poison. I was just going to say, I want... It feels a lot like poison to me. I want it to make sure you don't have-

Just because you give it to me on stage, doesn't mean I'm gonna drink it. Wow, wow, wow. But- It's not crazy. What I love about this beer is, and I got cups of people and want them, what I love about this beer is, there you go.

There you go. It is weird as the boat. Is that, when you drink it, you really get the sense of being and how did this get made because if you look at the bottom of the can, it says right there, Clear is Day, Team Sanity. What? No!

Oh my god! No! I want god! No! I want it to... I will not drink that. Nice try! Nice try! Nice try! What is it?

What is it? What is it? A person who named their beer, where does the butt start? Is Team Sanity. Yeah. Okay? I'm so mad, Paul, because what I wanted to do, I really wanted to start off differently. I want to start off differently with Casey,

and I want everyone to know that Paul and I talked a little bit about that show, but not that much. Jesus, and I spent roughly 12 hours recapping it, and honestly processing it, Casey, you and I have never talked about it. No, and I don't even want to look at you. It was literally like we never spoke about it. Never, and I don't even wanna look at you. It was literally like we never spoke about it once. Never, ever spoke about it once.

Nope. I had a headache for two days. I was horse. I was horse. Yeah. I had to say, you know, tonight is a healing space because, because, and that something else happened that was so surprising.

Obviously Casey revealed herself to be a team-sanity, which was one of the most shocking moments of my life. But I also, today, watching a real insane moment, watching Milk Money, I'm known Casey since she was 18 years old. I've never heard you speak of this movie. I love Milk Money. Thank God. And I love Milk Money, too.

I'm ice-filling with you. I also love Milk Money. I love Milk Money, too. I love Milk Money, too. I love Milk Money, too. In a not feeling with you. I also love milk money. I love milk money too. This movie, in a way that was like, I especially felt- This is yelling. It is. That's what I'm saying.

I think you brought milk money. But I think we love it in the right way. Oh. Look, I got a lot of questions. I think June and I love it for the right reasons. Okay. I have a lot of questions about Casey. You said to me, this is one of your favorite movies

growing up, right? This is a movie you saw. So I really want to- In the theaters, go on. Okay, I want to dig into what that was like because seeing it as a child, my biggest question was, who is this for? I don't know if this is for boys, girls,

13-year-olds, 40-year-olds. Yeah. Widowars, or... This isn't real for Quadrant Movie. It is odd. It's an odd movie because, it's what if Porkeys, but for Stand By Me, and also pretty woman,

but also like... Turns of Endearment. Yeah. Yeah. Her heads. I mean, like, in the beginning, when the boys are in the tree house, and he's like, and I'm going to put in this box of mem, the sacred shoe box, a picture of a deadmutter. I was like, OK, where are we going?

Actually, by the way, oh yeah, go ahead. Well, I have a quote there. We're not three minutes into the movie. And I hear one of the most beautiful quotes I've heard on screen. One boy says I don't know what it's like to have a mother. Another boy says we can tell you and he says the other boy says You can't tell somebody something like that. Yeah, wow and there's a gorgeous film There's a lot of great line. There's a lot of incredibly beautiful lines. Yes, from the writer of Free Willy-2, I've got a great lines. But then, sorry, but...

I've got a lot of you. Also, scenes where a bunch of eight-year-olds appear to be watching porn. Yes! All right, wait. Hold on. I want to go back to this box. Which is cool. Because this box...

This box is very high concept. Because I guess what I understand with the box like that is like it's like a time capsule. Let's put things in here. We'll look back. Things we don't understand. They're more than meant to be fit. Well, what we understand in the world is time capsules.

We're going to put our own mementos in here and years later we'll see it. In this movie it's like we're putting things that we don't understand in here, and we'll revisit it later to be like, we were dumb. Is that the premise of the box? I would much rather they return to the box with more knowledge than test things out like a travel drinking cup.

And they die of fear. And they die of fear. By the way, you like put it away until someone notices. And you know what? This Frank does know what it is This is a moment and I didn't realize this until much later I'd die of friends not really into the culture as much as I guess it was but there was a movie called Club met it was a movie with Robin Williams and Peter O'Toole like club matter

Club paradise. Thank you and club paradise and at one point uh... uh... club paradise thank you and club paradise and at one point roba william says oh you got a bunch of diaphragms in your pool filters and i said my dad what's a diaphragm because you don't have to worry about it you actually do need to worry about it it was well it was so shockingly that it's always been burdened my head like but you know what did I say? Like, I just, what we were watching,

movie, I didn't understand what was getting stuck in the pool filters. And you don't need to worry about it. And then, and then I knew a diaphragm is like a breath, like, you breathe with your diaphragm. And then I was like, how was that in a pool filter? And my dad worked at a pharmacy, and then one time, I was in the back room getting

something from the back and I saw diaphragms and I was like what's in this box? Shouldn't these be in the pool? Diophrams to me. That's the first time I've seen one, but to me I'm a children to be careful. Your dad was right. By the time it came around, you didn't need to know about that for us. That's so worried about it. They were all rapiers, like saying to this crowd, did you know about sponges? No.

Yeah. It's got to go. I really did need to be thinking. We think, like, diaphragms were crazy. The idea of having to, like, put in, because my question was always, when do you put in a diaphragm? Like, just right before. I think right before. Wow, that's... Can we get a diaphragm? Somebody you put in a diaphragm? Like just right before. I think right before.

Wow, that's... Can we get, is there a diaphragm? Somebody who's used a diaphragm... And it's diaphragm users. Does anybody want to speak for the diaphragm? I guess it's all the... I don't even understand how it's sitting. I don't understand.

I don't understand, like... Paul, let's... Paul, let's say that. Paul, Paul, Paul. I'm not sure what to say, man. The hand motion that Paul did, when he say, I don't understand how it... Oh, the hand motion that Paul did, when he say, I don't understand how it looks. Oh, God.

Ooh, like a broad, like a menstrual cup and it expands, it expands in there. So you don't put it in just like, you're gonna shove that in. But cause of what that kid was holding up was like, that's it, like again, I haven't seen it. You gotta fold it and make like a little C shape and then you insert it and then it opens.

Yeah, got it. Okay, I thought that you just ended like it. I thought like at the point of entry, you just drop it in front like, yeah. It's like, it's like, Wait, you thought you put it on the outside of the vagina? Yeah, it's like, and then you put it on the outside.

You put it on the inside? Yeah, June, you put it on the outside. You breath deep. Well, that's like what I think I could. I could understand how you would ever do it. You know, of course. The one mouth is connected to the other. I will say there's so many things about this.

Maybe the premise though, the beginning premise is these kids have access to a lot of porn. They're not only watches- Where did that porn come from? The dad? Which one? Not in Harris. Wait.

No, the dad who you, of course, that dad. Of course, of course, that dad. Well, I wanted to just show some of the porn because I said, what? What? Well, no. Wait. What? What? Oh, no. show some of the porn because that's what when what no wait what oh no well we're gonna respectfully say no no please don't

I'm getting a flip that's which about here team for it's it's it's where the but this is a lot go we don't look I have to defend Paul no matter what thank you. Thank you, Katie. No, I'm just saying, I'm with him. And drunk on Team Sanity beer. But here's what I'll say. He's like, these kids, their collection of porn is massive.

And it seems to me, their lack of understanding of sex with the amount of porn they have access to is imbalanced. Like, even when they're watching the thing there, that's elbows, like, keep it playing, buddy. Like, because when they're- I didn't turn it off at the best part. Yeah, because here we go.

But do you have that movie? No, but like, it was like, I just sort of felt like it was him chasing. It was getting somewhere, it was going- Like, we were about to get there and they're like, turn it off. I mean, now look at the, You need to find Mone. This is the porn.

No, but I mean, we're talking. I want to be very clear. We're talking about a movie. You're talking about porn as if it's the porn of today. Okay. He's handing someone a frolic magazine. Frolics. These are like the nurses, the embondage.

Yeah, Jason. These are like Playboy. the advantage. Yeah, Jason. These are like Playboy. Yeah, these are very 1994 porn wasn't like the Stone Age. It wasn't like a pin-up girl in black, I go. But they also don't have that. I'm wearing a bra, like it wasn't that. But some of this is that, you know, it is. There is a, I guess I liked that they were,

this also reminded me of, was it good boys? Was the movie the good boys? Right, yeah. In a way too, because there was something about, this kid selling all of his porn is a vain school. He looks like he's got magazines. He's got magazines, he's got a homemade porn scene. He's got VHS tapes.

This kid's running a full business. There's a line up and down his hallway like there was a sneaker drop. No teacher in sight. They do a good job. I felt like at least for Frank, especially, dialing in a genuine innocence that I believed or that I was on board for. I totally agree.

I mean, listen, until Melanie Griffith shows up at the house, the movie is utterly insane. And I don't know why. I really don't know why. They need to see, because they've seen naked women. They've seen that. Well, that's not saying that the idea is like what? But they need to see one in person, you know, there's, and then why she goes with them, and then she does it.

You know, and you all have to sit with that. Yeah. We all saw that. That's right. That's what we have to contend with. That's what we're up against. We need you money. That is a dead... That moment, first of all, them coming into the city. I thought this was the best representation of a city on midday.

It's neither like... It's... It's daunting, but... What's it called? Were they... They ride their bikes to the downtown of it. Where were they? What is it? Indy. It's Pittsburgh. Oh, it's, it's daunting, but cold. Where they ride their bikes to the downtown of it. Where is it? Indy.

It's Pittsburgh. Oh, that makes sense. That's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's,

that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that idea, like, when they get there, it's like, it's dangerous, but it's also not like, it just feels like adult in a great way. I like the way that they presented the city there. Oh, the kids were shockingly out of place. Yeah, it is. Like, to me, in a good way, and I was like, is this the movie? I genuinely thought this was gonna be a kids

when their bikes get stolen, they're stuck in the city. I was like, oh, is this gonna be the fucking movie? And I'm on board for it, but no, they're stuck in the city. I was like, oh, is this gonna be the fucking movie? And I'm on board for it. But no, they go straight back. Well, listen, we need to get to Ed Harris. Oh, yeah. Because it's one of his best performances. Absolutely.

And some of those open-eye seen him? Yes. Yes. Yes, yes, please. I agree with this. I agree with all of them. He's available. He is. This is with this. I agree with all of them. He is.

This is to me, I'm picturing him going to work on the Apollo 13. Like, I'm tying this into Apollo 13. No, he's this is his home. Well, no, I feel like this is the only ad Harris performance that I've ever seen where he seems emotionally lost and bereft. Oh, yes. Like he feels lost.

He feels beautiful. Like, ad Harris in the green house. It was nice. With Melanie Griffith in pajamas, all muddy. I was like, you got it. Like, you got it. And the two of them together in those pajamas, I was like, you know,

compared to those dog footprints. Oh, my God. They really were very, very good. It's in, like, Westworld or National Treasure 2, which I inexplicably just watched. Yeah. It was a beautiful performance. And the best moment, though, I think,

is when he eats the microwave dinner on the lawn, with his son, and they're racing who can eat the fastest, a great family. They are. They are so good at conveying the true, desperate heartache of these two, like that they are this pair that feels lost in the world. I cried when he was taking the laundry out.

No, I've never done the laundry for my children. So I, and I'm a mother, but it still got me when he was taking it out himself in the middle of the house. As the person who does all of Casey's children's laundry, that's seen resonated. Yeah. By the way, June got so angry with me the other night. You're going to speak about laundry.

Careful. I want to keep this night away. We'll cut this out of the box. Okay, wow. All right. Team Longer. But you're going to say, Paul, because I know what I do. I said like this. I said to June, I said,

I like doing laundry and she's like, you like doing laundry? And I was like, yeah, she's like, and walked away, I've never been so disturbed. I mean, such disgust. What do you like about it? And in turn, they liked domestic work and doing these household tasks.

I do think there's something a little laugh about you. But do you mean it in regard to you? Because I would say I like doing laundry more than the dishes. Like in terms of chores, right? That's not what I was saying, Jason. Yeah, we would be doing laundry. I like doing laundry. Period.

I like laundry. It's fun. I tried to get you to get to go to the movies the other night. And you're like, I've got to load a wife in. Don't get me started. Like when we go on a vacation, he's barely in the hotel room. He's barely arrived at the place we're about to go to. He's finding a laundromat.

He's starting to load. Gotta get a load in. What could we be laundering? Well, Jason and I had this debate just the other day. You were in a part of this. It was part of last looks. OK. And we can maybe throw it out to the crowd.

Casey would like you to be an impart. I won't tell you the side of it. If you are packing for your children on a seven-day vacation, how many pair of pajamas are you bringing your children? Hold on, hold on. You'll get to you. For me, for. What?

And June? Maybe five, eight. Eight. Seven-day vacation, eight pair of pajamas. What? On vacation. Why would I do laundry there? Because I can wear it. Shoot a three-nice each.

And she says no. She says no, no, no. She looks at me like that. For someone who doesn't like to do laundry, that's quite a request. No. I believe pajamas, and this is a fundamental difference between us. I believe pajamas are a single use wear.

You wear pajamas, you eat things. Audience, you eat things. If anything, then it's the most use wear. Yes! Of all our clothes, I'll get a pajama top, I'll get an undy. You're weak. What are you doing? You're just sleeping in it.

I'll go one step further. When I go on vacation, I pack zero children's pajamas. Zero. Because I am childless. You're doing so much. Would it be winter if I was like, 11? You're doing so much sweating, you're doing,

you're doing so much. You should be getting back through the most clean you've ever been. The minute I get into a hotel room, boom, boom, boom, 58 degrees. You don't look so old too, but there's things that can be happening. You're just treating like sleeping as if,

yeah, you just got down to the gym, so you take off your clothes and you pop them, yeah, like that. They're the most clean they've ever been. I am an active sleeper. And our children have woken up a few times with like, and come downstairs with, with like what heads? They're sleeping so hard at night. Well, that's because they're in the flannel.

But John was 90% of the year. They look so cute in a desert climate. We live in a desert climate. They look so cute in a desert climate. They look so cute in them. And we've also had battles about this. They're so dehydrated. June wants them in very tight pajamas. Because you- You was a fires house fires.

You got- You think loose pajamas are gonna cause so much friction? They'll start a fight. You wake up. No, if there's a fire, you're gonna get the kids out quickly. I don't want them to catch a flame. I will. I have seen them.

You think they'll be that close to the fire? I think the senior gets in a tighter cut. Yeah. Do you have them? Do you buy? Okay, so do you buy regular pajamas and have them tailored? No, I like them. No, I don't get to tell you.

Show me like if they're in eight, she's like, put them in a six or a seven. What? What? She knows that she can't defend it. What? This is my, this is my moment. This is my moment.

I've never had as many impartial judges. I've never had as many impartial judges. Thank God we've never been in a situation where we've had to rush the kids out of a burning house. Of course not. But every night they're in two small clothes. In just a few days. My children look like sausages at night. They're like, in all of my dreams, I'm in a spider's web.

I'm stuck in a cocoon in all of my dreams, I'm in a spider's web. I'm stuck in a cocoon in all of my dreams. Sometimes when I put on their pajamas, I'm like, give me a... You put them on yourself? Be through. What? Nothing. Just imagine them.

Just imagine the entire house inflamed. And we gotta go, and we're grabbing a child, and we're running through flames. It could happen. Okay. Okay. Well, to me, yeah, I mean, if they're so close, if they're so close to the flames

that a correctly sized pajama gets ignited, then they're just too close. Then you guys are too close. If this, if this could be the difference between life or death. It's not. It's not. Kids, not. But I've also never seen kids pajamas that have a bell bottom like that.

Yeah. Don't your kids sleep in boot cut pajamas? No. Low rise boot cut pajamas are back in style. Holy shit. Low-rise boot cut pajamas are back in style Holy shit Anyway, this movie milk money Clothing plays quite a role for me when I watch milk money There's a lot of triggering scenes where you know, I'm just I couldn't help but think of the mother that passed in milk

I see like she's where, you know, I'm just, I couldn't help but think of the mother that passed. And Milk and White's face. Yeah, and knew you were missing. Like, she's pulling in her grave, okay? Okay, she's got her son just Jonesen to get the dad fucked by Melanie Grevex and just pulling out her old dresses and just giving him a moment. I was shocked, I was shocked. It was shocking.

And Ed Harris, I said to Paul, this was a very disturbing moment between the two of us because we watched it together and when Ed Harris didn't recognize that dress right away, June, I was so fucking angry and I said, Paul, if another woman walks down here stands in front of our home, okay, with my clothes on. You don't recognize them and he goes,

you have so many. I'm slaying. I slaying. I found it and I loved Ed Harris You don't recognize them and he goes you have so many I Found it and I loved dead Harrison this movie and I loved his character so much except for that He did say when told I thought it looked familiar But she wears them again. She puts on a different. Oh, she wears multiple dead moms Absolutely inappropriate and weird. Well wait, but let me ask you a question. And I'm asking this again, I'm opening myself up to a lot of ridicule here.

I don't find her outfits to be that provocative. Like when we've seen other representations of this profession, you see a lot of maybe leather or this. I think it's because in this movie, she's got a body for business. So, okay, all right, is that- All right, so that's basically- So basically, just the gothiest-

You got that body. Just the shes- Because people are like, like when she comes to the school office, she's wearing this out. Like, it's a fine outfit. Like, it doesn't feel overtly like, but isn't that the dead mom's outfit?

No. Oh, Jayson. She's that's her uniform. She's in those are like her fatigues. Like, she's in those day-in-day-out. Yeah. That's just standard issue. It is?

Yeah, that's it. She's wearing clothes. When she goes into the school, she's wearing like a bodysuit and like, that's like what's that, that's like a bodysuit. I got to be honest. No. Her clothes in the city are a blue, like micro dress. Love that dress.

Right, incredible. Velvet. Like insanely beautiful, hot, crazy. And then once she gets, then she's got the tan overcoat, right? Sure, yeah, the trench coat. And from then on, it's the dead mom's coat. No, it's only for one of the other. Thanks, Alfa, Jason.

Hold on. What? Jason. She's wearing like, oh, musta... She's wearing... Oh, it's audiences. OK, surely. Noted, team sanity.

You guys. You guys... She's wearing essentially... That's a team-fredder right there. Yeah. She's wearing like a That's a team Fredder right there. Yeah, yeah. She's wearing like a very rent fair type of look in a way. It's like it's corseted and it's a little like olden days and- She really turned heads in it if you'll recall it.

And her every extra was like, boom. Well yeah, those- When everybody in this are like, fuck you, like they hate her. And everybody in town when she walks down the street in town, everybody's like, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, She's a little bit of a messy hair and an untucked shirt. I like him. He's got an untucked shirt right there. Yeah, I like him like that. Oh, no, he's great. That's not the greatest shot, but no, I think that's a great because he was great.

You know what I thought was so cute? The guy who held the gun on the two children. And minute 13 in the film. That was so, he had fun. But that's what's a great, there's so much, there is so much, and we're talking about it like very sweetly like it's a very almost wholesome story in a lot of ways, especially because we go, there is a gritty city component, but then we quickly leave it behind for an almost pleasantville style like

small town. It's like a gallon wants to live in a sweet suburb and so much so that we're also participating in the nostalgia for the 50s, which is the leather jacket and the geled hair, and the sock hop at the end of the movie. But regardless, we're still faced over and over again with these grim realities. Like the guy who pulls the gun on the kids, and then one of the kids goes,

you saw your sister naked in the shower. I was hiding in the laundry basket. Like, that's also part of it. My favorite two parts of this movie are the arguments between Anne H. and Blank. Anne H. and Casey Cimansko in the beginning where he goes, you're not a person. She's kind of a person. She's not a person. She kind of is.

She's not a person. She kind of is. And then later on with Malcolm McDowell, he's like, you're not worth a bullet. And she's like, I am. That you're not. I am. You're not.

But that's. They let that go off. It's so long. I'm like, one person couldn't just mix it up a little. But that's what I loved about it. I loved, I really did. I was like, oh, this is so weird and interesting. And her defending, not how much she's worth really,

but just that she knows she's worth more than a bullet. And I was like, god damn it, I loved her character. I would pay such good money to see a movie just focused on her. I was when she was dancing outside that sock hop, I'm like, this deranged nutter better. Oh yeah. So at 14 years old, she ran away.

Millenigraphy. Yeah, well, we don't get to know. That's what's interesting. I think we don't get to know anything. Because I say, we don't know much about Eve That's what's interesting. I think we don't get to know anything. Because I think. Because I think we don't know much about Eve. But I think the movie is all about her. It is. It is.

Unspool. But I think it is not unspool, just. Oh, dear you. No, this isn't unspool. No, this is not unspool. Yeah, that's right. This is fun, spool. Ha, ha, ha.

I think the reason is, of course, if we were to learn more, and I wonder if they cut it out. It would get too dark. Who's the director's cut of this movie? You know, and I have to imagine, because what I really didn't understand about this movie, and I loved it, and this is not a critique. This is a question. God no, because we're putting it into the AFI list. We don't want to critique it tonight, not tonight.

I would legitimately put this in the top 5% of movies we've covered. Us absolutely. You know what, I only got 12? I agree. I mean, I had intense emotional reactions. What else are we looking for from a movie? I laughed a lot too.

I laughed a lot too. Like Kathleen Kennedy, like that had a sheen on it, and a nostalgic sheen that we kind of grew up with. I didn't have the score. But it wasn't ample. It didn't have any amblinny stuff. It didn't have any, you know. Oh, no one's on your team tonight, so I didn't see it.

And I know, and I'm holding my tongue a lot for a minute. Sorry. The big moment, and you could, please, don't be on my side But not because I want you to be honest, but the way that they like go into making love That was him I'm with you on this okay him waxing poetically about his ex-wife and she's and he's like It's to me it feels like he's like, if I really focus, you'll be her. And that's it, because why does this kid even want her

to be his mom? They don't even know each other. She's done nothing. Oh, oh, oh. Whoa, oh. At the point that he's saying it, yes. Whoa, whoa. Wow.

He's seen her breath. No, he has not. No, I know. He did it. He's a gentleman. He's seen her brands. No, he has not. No, I know. He did it. He's a gentleman. He's a gentleman. He's Cheetos. Frank is a gentleman.

I do wonder what he connected to with her, because maybe that's a really good scene. How could you not connect to her? She's so effervescent, and she's so warm. And this is one of her best performances. I think he's like great. Oh, yeah, perfect. So this is what it's like.

What? Don't say it. They say it. Jason don't cry. When he says this is what it's like to have a mom, I was shattered. This kid gets it. This movie.

That's why I put it in the top 5%. You know what? Doesn't make me cry the rest of the movies that we do, except for the hot life of Timothy Green. Now, this movie works on every level. But do you think, all right, if I'd seen this as a child, this movie would have felt like it was telling my story. I would have felt like this I want that can't...

How does this... Your franker. Yeah, no, I'm a I'm a total Frank I'm not the purve watching my sister shower And I'm not Kevin who's like I think having a home alone He's like this movie is all also almost home alone. Yeah, well by the way They do do they do a bunch of they do a bunch of home alone kind of I felt like like side Yes, we're the bad guys. Yeah, it is interesting that we don't get to know that much about her

And this is where I really want to tip my hat to Mount A Griffith because we don't get to know We don't understand what happened at 14. We don't really understand why she also wants to leave Over and over again like I was like, this seems like a great setup. Stay here, you got clothes. Well, I think I tried a tree house. Yeah. That nice little tree house up there, get the wetlands. Like, what?

Well, I think that she, because she can't be honest with herself, right? She's living a lie. That's why she wants to leave. She doesn't want to live a lie. She wants to be Eve. Navi, Eve. Well, I think it doesn't want to live a lot. She wants to be Eve, not V, Eve. But if she doesn't know, she's got to admit to being V.

Well, no, she, but for a lot of the movie, for a lot of the movie, she thinks that Ed Harris knows what she does for a living and accept her. And make sure that came out beautifully. That first scene I left, I left. And that's what we're talking about with Ed Harris. That, like whatever that likeness is Yes, I'm like, oh, he's great

It's incredible In the hands of like and I hate to put us all down up here and I and I don't mean to but just so sorry But like just a comedian like it wouldn't it would have played to jockey I thought he played it gorgeously and I didn't mean to put you all Wow, why do you have to diminish us in order to? I'll see you guys. I just want to. No, you're right. You're right.

We would have made it. We would have made it too much. I will speak for like, I would have given a little bit. So I'm sorry that she has been in Paul if in that role. In you. It's horrible. There you go. I think I could do, and I could pull off an ad Harris

in this movie role. I'd like to think I could too. I'm more than a little... I'm more than a little... For the most... For the most... For the most... For the most...

For the most... For the most... For the most... For the most... For the most... For the most... For the most... For the most... For the most... For the most... For the most... For the most... For the most... For the most... opportunity to play Casey Samasco? That's the thing. But boy, what I like to be at Harris.

I do like to do one of those things that they did in that Wayne's Brothers movie, Little Man, where they put my face on a child's body, and then I would play one of the children. I do think you're right, though, Casey. It's that scene for her too. I should have put others down to make that point. Oh, it's like, I just thought it really was tough.

I know. I just, all right, so I'm going into Netflix. You guys get to greenlight all the movies, right? And I just, all right, so I'm going into Netflix. You guys get to greenlight all the movies, right? And I go, all right, so the fun thing is, oh, we're big fans. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you so much.

Oh, we're big fans. We're so excited to hear what you came in to talk about. Yeah, love the podcast. So, do you want any water, Paul, before you start? I got plenty of water. I used that little soda machine in the front. It was great. Do you want to get validated now or?

I talked to somebody out front and they had it. We got the validation. So I bet if I go, so yeah, so when we get to the middle of the movie, we'll have, you know, we'll have the sex worker dress up, a cosplay is a dead wife, and then we'll put the dad and the sex worker up in the tree house. And the dad will just kind of talk about how much he loves

the dead wife and he's really not over her. And then they'll like fuck. Where will they fuck her, make love? Yeah. Oh, sorry, make love. Because here's the thing. Here at Netflix, we're not interested in fucking. We're interested in making love.

But I mean, that is like what happens. I guess I just feel like Ed Harris isn't over the loss of his wife. He just never dealt with it because you put the photos up in the, you know, that's a win. That's a win. She's giving him a window to get at it. She's pulling both of these people out of the absolute devastation and heartbreak and grief and loss that they are in.

She is a lifeline for both of them. It's true. It's hard to say that. And investor hands it would have been an insufferable movie. Infinite. I would argue that most people who saw this felt it was an insufferable movie. Wrong. These people are wrong.

Just keep in mind, you're agreeing with Paul? What? 12% on the tomato meter. Interesting. When I think those numbers are off, the three of the four of us are in love with it. I know. Also, people are watching and they're trying to connect.

OK, I'll go there. Yes, I agree. And, people are watching and they're trying to connect. Okay, I'll go there. Yes, I agree. And Harris is great. But there are some things that are flocked up here. Okay, we are not talking about it. We are not talking about it. We are not talking about it. Like, I was told that there was a member of my family

and somebody kept in an attic. And they were like, wait, what in there? Yeah, we never talked about it. That's weird. But we, like, that's like the kind of stuff that's going on in this. Name like six crazy things that happen. Okay. This is Boomi.

Money for your mouth is small. Like what? Did I let the kids drive a car? One working the steering wheel, one the pedals. And then the steering wheel pops up. Right. Then they're almost hit by both. By the way, two twin, how about this?

Big rigs and then a twist. How about that adult in the car? Lift up your car. Who just seems to not be able to get over to get the wheel. How about this moment, when Melanie Griffith talks to three 12 year olds, it says, take off your shirts. Oh, good, you're not hairy enough to be dangerous. Yeah.

That was a last one. There was a huge difference. You were a concern. I was a 12 year old That was a last one. There was a huge number of people. You were a concern? I love that. There was a 12 year old. If I'm that cab driver, I'm reporting that. That also ever was reacting like, I was.

That is the part they would give me in this movie. I would have been the wife of the guy who had slept with Melanie. I felt the same thing. Casey, I was like, that's very old. There had slept with Melanie. I felt the same thing. KCO is like that's personal. Unfortunately. By the way, another weird thing that happens, that someone in this town is actively using, like, as a little black book, is like,

oh, can we get a scene? We get a scene where he, an individual scene, where he, Kevin's dad, we went home with him creeps out of bed peeks of his wife is asleep it was chipped tipped tipped tipped out calls the escort service

and bitches them out because Melanie Griffith is inexplicably in his town she's like hey control this woman she's in my town and by the way the escort Escort Service is just Anaheish, but yet Anaheish and Casey Samanzko worked for Malcolm McDowell, who works for Jimmy the whole- Everybody's got a boss, Paul.

Did you not learn anything? Moment though, why does that man get out of the bed and then redo the sheets as if he was never there. To what end is he, who is he tricking? His wife and him clearly went to bed together. He goes downstairs to make a call. If she wakes up, he wants her to think he never came to bed.

Instead of, I was just having diarrhea. I found it fascinating though, to your point Jason about what this movie tackles. Like to have gone home with this gentleman, to have also seen the moment where his son realizes after his dad is such a hard ass. And so particular about this and that, that his dad is cheating on his mom.

That is a liar. And is a liar. And the kid goes full pig pen. He does. This kid pig pens himself. I'm too corny. It's in A3. It was.

I mean, Kevin, the third kid in the crew has a full arc. He really does. It has three. He goes full pig pen. You know, I also loved was the actress that Frank ends up with. I did too. Incredible.

I did too. Now, the little brunette who's fantastic. And she's wonderful. I didn't understand or I didn't see the lead up to that. I was really grateful. Oh, you say it in there. It's in there. Oh, she is finding Frank.

It's big in there. But you know, she wanted him. I didn't see it from his eyes. I felt it was like we're watching through Frank's eyes. So Frank isn't noticing her. The same way the blonde isn't noticing him. I didn't see it from his. I felt it was like we're watching through Frank's eyes. So Frank isn't noticing her. The same way the blonde isn't noticing him. But really he is. No, no, no.

Okay, so what I thought or what I was hoping for was that what Frank was learning through his father really connecting emotionally with the was that it was more important to see someone's heart first. I think that does that, is it? Right? Okay. I thought it did. Meanwhile, I only have eyes for you is playing, right?

Like it's a the sock hop. I mean, incredible song, devastating song. He gives the leather jacket to the blonde, right? And then he asks the brunette to dance, and I start sobbing. Jen. And I write, in the thing, all caps and exclamation points, he chooses the brunette!

I would. I would. You need to get you all into therapy. Were you identifying with the brunette? Of course I'm identifying with the brunette. Yeah, we all are, yeah. Never picked. Oh, power.

And then a gun fight breaks out when a British man runs in there. Oh, just. Again, if you eliminate everything. 47% of this movie, yeah, there's maybe some moments. You know what, what did you say? What did your dad say? Don't worry about that. Yeah.

You know where else? Like, here's another moment I cried at. Another moment I cried at, Ed Harris again, just incredible performance. But I really want to give it up to this kid too, because when Ed Harris says she's a Grace Kelly, isn't she? About Melanie Griffith, she was son. I was like, and she, and he's like, yeah, I was like,

burrr. She's not, she's not a Grace Kelly. Neither was the mom. Neither was Grace Kelly. Neither was the mom. Neither was the mom. Neither was the mom. Why do they have to be a Grace Kelly? Can it be like, my wife, my beautiful wife, like, like, Boran?

Like, it's like, you want it to be the person I want. She looks enough like her that I will marry her. And then this person, by proxy, it's like a little weird thing. No, no, no, it's like I wouldn't keep up these things. It's so hard to break from Paul, give him a last show I was happy. You have to see. You have to see.

We're audience. Thank you. Can you raise your hand if you didn't like it? I just just show. OK, great work. Show me hands. It is like my side. Can we get? Can we get a host like? I just

Can we get house lights now who's on the right side? Very few okay So it's like a Totally one for a few of them are more with paw. I would love to get Yeah, drill down on the numbers of the data a little bit more. I will say for those listening, it is a beautiful people who agree with us. LAUGHTER Majority rule, baby. I watched it, and I was like, why are we doing this?

This might be a moment for me to go out here with my people. Do you decide what that to? Let's see what they have to say, because maybe they have a point of view. Yes, okay, sir. How you doing? All right. What's your question? So, assuming that they're together at the end of the movie, two of his friends, his best friends, have seen his mom's breasts, and one of their dads had sex with him.

That's a really weird... I literally never thought of that. I never thought of that, but what I... Boom! What I loved, no, not boom. Not boom, but I've been detoxed. You know what? You know what, though? Who cares?

I feel oppressed. You know what, it's all sounds like this. That's the shit that's going on, man. Honestly, yes. If you ask around in your friend group here in Los Angeles, who here, who's with someone that they're in love with, has fucked one of that person's friends. I see one hand.

One hand, now I see his person that he's with. One hand, this man has put off. This is a here-and-s. And here's what I'll say, and this is why I love Eve so much, is that she's not trying to be his mom. In fact, she says multiple times, I'm not your mom. I'm a friend of the family. I mean, she's behaving in a way that if she was his mom

would be truly insane. That's what I, but she's not. He doesn't even know what his mom is. He has no time with his mom. Oh, he's learned it. He's learned it. He says so this is what it's like to have his mom. But then she is his mom.

No, no she's not. Tell me why I'm right. I mean aren't there laws against what's going on in this movie? Where are we? Name them. Name those laws. Name them. He's right.

There are laws. She's not fucking this kid. No, and not only that. She considers it. She considers it. That's what we're not talking about. When he says, teach my son out of fuck. She's like, okay, I guess.

I'd rather fuck you. But I guess I will teach your son out of fuck. She doesn't teach his son out of fuck. She thinks about it. I forgot that too. That's just something that's happened. I know, I'm not here. You're making this seem gross and it's wholesome. Okay, so,

so first of all, team laundry. Second of all, we haven't talked about the classroom scene about teaching the sex scene. Okay. Now this is all, we haven't talked about the classroom scene, about teaching the sex. Okay. Okay. Now this is weird. I'll give it to you.

I'll give it to you. I'll give it to you. I agree. This is weird. You were not that insane. I gave that one to me. This is a bridge too far. But here's a thing.

Here's my problem with it. If I may. Please. My problem with this scene is, Frank is failing this class. He needs this presentation to pass. A grade. Why not? But he does it all with Melody Griffith in the room and the teachers locked outside.

And he's watching the class. I would argue that what he is doing as a presentation is incredibly like safe and sanitary. Like he's not doing anything that's like, Are you worried it's not sanitary? Well, I mean, I mean, clean. Like, it's like, it wasn't like he got in there. No, he taught them how to fuck. Like, which is what that scene should have been.

But what he did was... Oh! Expand on there. What do you mean? Expand on that. What do you mean? Expand on that. What I'm saying is, they treat it, they treat that scene where he locks the teacher out like, oh, I'm now gonna give you guys something that the teacher

doesn't want you to know. And what he does is just do a straight-up biology report with a human subject who's in a leotard. Like, there's, there's, there's, but the kids are thrilled. Yes. But like what I'm saying is there's nothing. Yeah, but it was like, who's benefit is this for?

Right. It's the great. It is the great, and that, that would have gotten a great, great, great, great, great, great. I agree this scene. It's genuinely makes no sense. It makes no sense. It's a really, it really doesn't.

I told you, I've been teaching him how to fuck. There are, let's be super. I'm not saying that I want that. Wait, that's what it was. Paul, you keep coming back to that. I just want to say, the person who agreed with Paul before, do you still agree with Paul? No, no, no.

No, no, no. Is that not saying, does Paul represent everybody here? No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. Is that, is that, does all represent everybody here? No, no. What I'm saying is it's written in a way that it's supposed to be scandalous, and yet is not. Now look, I had a sex ed class taught by my gym teacher where he put a dildo in the Shia's Girls Lunchbag. And while she, all right, I'll back it up.

What? So, there was this varied, nice girl. I think that's the kind of stuff you need to understand about how Paul receives the movies. So upset. Honestly, I was agreed, yeah. So, I went to a Catholic school and... This is why Paul had trouble with milk money.

And our head of Fizz Ed was teaching our sex ed class. There was a very nice shy girl in our class. Very shy. And... Oh, this is... As devastating as milk money. Go ahead. This is worse. Yes.

She, this is worse. She, my grip set. She went to the bathroom and he was like, guys, guys, watch this. And he took out like this, like, not in a very graphic deal, but it was like, oh, certainly we should show how to put a condom on, right? It wasn't like something like, ballies and veins, yeah, exactly. Okay, the audience doesn't need to scream Vainey.

Vainey. Oh, Gertie. Gertie, Vainey. Oh. Uh. I know we're doing milk money, but try not to jerk off audience at Largo. So if you fucking creeps, he takes this like, he takes this like penis substitute

and puts it in her lunch bag. Penis substitute. Penis substitute. Okay class, I'll be your penis substitute. Your teacher's out, your penis is out sick. I'll be your penis substitute. So this show, I'm I'll be your penis substitute. So, this show, I'm not on board for Saturday night.

So, she comes back into class and she starts to open her brown lunch bag and it goes, Patricia, what is this? And he then goes into her lunch bag and pulls it, I was like, what is this? What are into her lunch bag and pulls it, oh, what is this? What are you having in your lunch bag? Such a cool thing. So funny, I'm sure she received it the exact right way.

Oh, this poor girl. I thought this bad. Now, we're all in on it because we saw him plant it. And... You cosine that. God! So you didn't speak up. God, so you didn't speak up. I would have said, I'm sorry, that's mine.

And I didn't even want like this, it's like, I'm just joking with you, I put that in there. Alright, now moving on to chapter two. Now that's how he learned about sex. Listen, here's what I'm not going to debate. There are many things that are absolutely inappropriate and against the law, and I didn't like seeing her when even when she was teaching him dance. I didn't like seeing her dance over him.

I didn't like it. I didn't like it, and I, you know, but I actually... Oh, I thought I was kind of creative with the thumbs. That part of the dancing I loved was the dance over him in her skirt. Oh, that was crazy. But he closed it like that. He did like that.

Right, so with that one. But that's great for him. Yeah, drop dead Fred booked up his mom skirt anyway. Anyway, go ahead and do that. Drop dead Fred wasn't a real character. Absolutely. Seems like he was. Let's not do this right now.

I will go into this if you do your question. Start. Hello, my name is Melissa. My question is, will we've already touched on the fact that there was the kid hiding in the hamper and saw his sister naked in the shower. There seemed to be a few other incessual undertones, like when they said that Melanie Griffith's character

was at Harris's sister, and then the family was watching them from outside, and the mom was like, I wish you two would be close like that. Um, so just curious about your thoughts on the... Honestly, I saw it and I heard it. Casey also has a very close relationship with her brother. So in some of my questions... Oh my god!

So I have... Is that like this movie? Is that like this movie because of the sibling relationship depicted between Ed Harris and Melanie Griffith? My husband says my brother and I have the biggest will they won't they. Exactly! I have heard you say about your brother that he's your lobster. It's weird. So I also am very sensitive to that, especially with siblings.

I don't like it. Okay. But what I appreciate about this movie, and that scene in particular, the ice cream shop, which V will come to buy with $250,000. She'll also buy a convertible and all of the wetlands. Yeah, the wetlands.

That's the thing. It was 1994 you could get a lot. How much could the wetlands cost? Yeah, but no! The wetlands are $3,000. And Harris, sell your house. By the way, kidsaw. You have a million pounds, Caw. You have a million pounds, Caw. You have a million pounds, Caw. You have a million pounds, Caw. You have a million pounds, Caw. You have a million pounds, Caw. You have a million pounds, Caw.

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You have a million pounds, Caw. You have a million pounds, Caw. You have a million pounds, Caw. You have a million pounds, Caw. You have a million pounds, Caw. You have a million pounds, C that. I don't like those kinds of jokes. I'm not, you know, not interested, but it's like you do on a bunch of occasions. Whoa! But in that scene, I actually was like, they kept on cutting back to that family, watching them almost make out,

almost make out make out. And I was like, wow, this is what's so special about the movie the amount of time they took with those reactions, and that was like, wow, this is what's so special about the movie the amount of time they took. Yes. With those reactions, Charlie. With that feeling. And that scene developing, because it wasn't just like a gross out reaction shot.

I'm like, ew, it was like, it builds. It builds. It builds, and it builds. It's a joke, it's a good build. Because what I liked about that was, yes, of course there's an incest joke. I did not like the incest joke about the kid watching his sister in the shower, because that is, but in about one bit. That's like straight up creep stuff,

right? But this is a misunderstanding because of a miscommunication and a lie. They think these are brother and sister and then the step by step, well, are you sure it is a sister brother in law or sister in law? And then they start me. I want you to make it. I thought that was also. And we also get to, we get some backstory on that. Random family that these siblings are struggling. By the way, I wanna bring our attention to something, oh, I don't wanna bring it, but I'll say that I've noticed, but you haven't raised your hand until now,

or at least I didn't see it. We've had last night and tonight, two wonderful babies here in the back to the audience. And I saw you all last night, people said, oh, you missed them. I said, well, I didn't want to call attention to it. But now you've raised your hand, so I fed. I can't go over.

The baby raising them. These are. Oh, my God. The milk honey is for everyone. This is. Guys, the babies I have an update are so little. These are the littlest cutest babies I do for the express how cute they might be. The cutest babies I do for this press.

They might be the cutest babies we've ever had. Oh my god, I want it. Can I have one? You've got two. I know you raised your hand, but how old are these babies? They're four months old. Four months, and they are cute, and they are twins. Yes, they're twin girls, and this is Evan Jane,

and her sister Elliott. Oh my gosh. Evan and Elliott, can I have one of them which every one you don't want. I usually get you over how cute these babies are like blowing the, blowing the roof off of cuteness here. All right, so what is your question? Well, first I just wanted to tell June that one of our twins is named after you. Um, we...

Oh, bro. June, you gotta get down here and check out this baby. You gotta check out this baby. We need a picture, June. We need a picture. We need a picture. Paul, you weren't lying. They're absolutely beautiful. You could be beautiful. I love you. Paul you weren't lying.

They're absolutely beautiful. There's steps here. There's steps right here. Elliot June. It's a night too much. I love you too. Oh my gosh. Paul.

It's a pretty insane sight. Give me another baby. I love you too. Oh my gosh. A paw. It's a pretty insane sight. Give me another baby. Yeah, I'll pick that out of here. Get out of here. Don't visit these babies. Oh, wait. And so just for clarity, say, neither of them

is named after me? I mean, I'm on record as loving babies. And why? This has been an amazing, beautiful moment. I want to make sure I get your question if you have one. We had a lot of conversations about this movie having, like, having four-month-old twins. And I was wondering, June, if you were to pass on God for bed

and go to the big stage in the sky and Paul somehow found himself in this situation, what would you hope he would do? By the way, this is a great question. You did talk to yourself. We were peter Paul. And by the way, it's something that June and I talk about a lot.

We do. What was the question? The question was, you were the past guy. You were the past guy. What do you want me to do? Would you like me to be in a situation like this? So it's interesting. I actually did think, well, we did talk about the clothes.

I, I, I was saying now and I'll put it down. No, I'll put it down, you know, for eternity. And in this podcast, and we all can hold Paul accountable. I want Paul to move on very quickly and find someone else. Very quickly, she says it very quickly. I do. And I told June, die alone. I do.

Here's what I want, though, is like a full, I want a celebration. I want so much fanfare around the passing. And then I would like Paul to, he knows he has my blessing. But just put away my clothes and stuff. He has a clap for that. But, what you're saying is you're fine with him moving on.

As long as he doesn't dress her in your clothes. I don't want my stuff there. In some sort of weird cosplay of you. And as long as I keep my children in type pajamas. As long as he keeps it in type pajamas. And as long as you keep it in type pajamas. And I would like a number of pictures up. I didn't like that he kept all the pictures of her way. That felt really wrong.

I would like a couple wonderful approved photos. Oh god. Oh god. And then live your life. Life is for the living. I would love if your will. Love that. Very generous.

If your will was just like these are the approved photos. That's such a good idea. By the way, by the way, by the way, do it tonight. Thank you, Jason. Honestly, thank you, Jason. Yeah. You're welcome. I'll go back. Here we go. One more question. Where we at? Ed Harris was fully ready to go to jail. Who was gonna watch Frank? Yeah. Oh, great question. Ed Harris was ready to go. Here's the deal. If you don't mind me saying here's the deal.

Frank's been basically on his own this whole time. That's true. Ed Harris is barely a parent. But by the way, also has no family, like no aunts, no anything. I get to seem like Frank is, I would argue, Frank is in many ways raising Ed Harris. Ed Harris feels to me to be... That's a better title, raising Frank.

LAUGHTER Is it? The title is interesting. It is... Money. It's unsettling. Yes! It's unfortunately sexual

for how much the movie is based around boobs. Yeah. Milk money plays no part of the story because I love it. Yes it does. Oh my god, it's milk money. Wait a minute. You said milk money is in no way part of this movie,

except for when they say milk money. But milk money is in no way part of this movie except for when they say milk money But milk money is like not even if like they didn't sell milk to go see a woman's breasts. Okay, wait a minute Milk money doesn't refer to the selling of milk It's the money you're given to buy milk at school and these kids are buying porno with it in they're giving these guys their milk money like hey give me your milk money is what a bully says right right not the money you made selling milk. I was. Hey, hey dairy man give me your milk money.

However much you've made selling that pasteurized mooch. I was a milk attendant. A tanking. And my school. What does that mean? And we're back at school. I wish I was presently a milk attendant. All right, so I would go into the milk locker, and then I would say, all right, the milk locker.

A big giant freezer, and our refrigerator, and I would go, okay, so Mrs. Myers class, they need 12 milk, because 12 kids paid for that. And then I would go, okay, so Mrs. Myers class They need 12 milk, because 12 kids paid for that and then I would boom boom boom and then I would stack them up Milk creates and then bring them to different classes. That's what I call opening someone's bra Entering entering the milk locker So hear me out But one of the things about being a milk attendant is,

you could shave some money off the top. Oh! But, do you know that the statute of limitations is up? You're skimming off big milk? How much? How much? Because everyone was a dollar of milk and so they would put it in the thing,

and then you'd have all that cash. OK, so now I understand how you misunderstood the title of the movie. Because for you, milk money is something very real. Yeah. As a milk attendant, going into a milk locker and skimming off the top of milk sales You some sort of milk This is some sort of milk embezzlement scheme. You're the Michael milkin. Come on

The Michael milkin of Long Island I Can walk away the few bucks in my pocket and free milk. See, we're also taking the milk for free. Chocolate milk, by the way, because you could have chocolate or regular. And I take the chocolate for myself. Look at how, and your lactose intolerant,

is this why? You're the Henry Hill. When I was a Henry Hill. And I didn't know it, yeah. You're the Henry Hill of your school's milk. You're like just a little taste of the top. Milk, that's always the top. I didn't I would get yeah I had wholesale candy in there and Everyone will come boom boom boom and I think you know you get like a whole thing a bubble tip like 12

Your childhood is like one of the kids in the movie Which makes me confused why you don't like the movie? Why you don't like the movie? I think it's triggering you. Is it too close to home? Yeah. Well, then I also made deals with this kid and my bus who said his dad kept all of us pouring in his locker and I would give him money.

And then he would free the pouring and then I would able to distribute that point to other people. What? Yes. Yes. Paul, I think you have a lot of, Paul, I think you have a lot of Frank-like I think you have a lot of Frank like quality. This is your like story.

I did bring my friends into New York City one time and went to show world with fake IDs and then show world is a strip club. And I went there as a 12 year old. Paul. And you had a fake ID? Well, you went to the store and you got an NYU ID, and it said I was a college student, but I was only 12. And then you showed it to the people at Show World,

and they would let you in. I think they knew I wasn't in college, but they'd think. Oh, you think? You think? And I like that there's a little, there's, you're not quite sure. No, I was showing on my bubble tea, but my... I think they knew I was 12.

I was so self-stop stoppers. And there was a moment where I was walking on my bubble tea, but my- I think they knew I was twel- I was self-stoppers. And there was a moment where I was walking around show world as a 12-year-old, and this woman approached me and she said, you want to watch me take a shower, and I said, no. Hi. This movie-

This is funny. This is funny. Well, this movie is your life. Did you sign away life rights? Is that why you mad? You didn't make a cut? Just feel like they could have gotten some better moments in there.

And I remember that moment because I was like, I don't want to watch you take a shower. So I'm going to wait outside show world. And I hung outside show world and talked to the bouncer for a long time. Well, my two other friends were doing whatever they were doing. Watching someone take a shot. Oh, but before we got the show world, this guy was like,

you wanna meet a... This is crazy. Do you wanna meet a sex worker? And we were like, yeah. And he started to lead us down an alley. And at that point, he was like, If you're alive, by the way, I just want to go on record. and he started to lead us down an alley. And at that point, he was like, Oh, really? Is your life, is your life? By the way, I just want to go on record.

We are two hours into the show. I've heard. And only now are you inadvertently admitting and realizing this is your life story on Phil. I did not put it all together. And as we were walking down that alley, I said, this is bad, let's go. And then the guy said, where are you guys going?

Where are you guys going? We're going to get out of here. And I pulled my friends out, and then we went to show world. Yeah, the only difference is he didn't have a gun like this guy did. He might have. We didn't go down far enough than the alley. All right, I feel like I've revealed that.

Wait, you just let Tim ask us a question? Of course. Tim kept his hand up the entire time, knowing that, okay, we were coming to the end. Tim, what do you got? I'm a school teacher, and whoever wrote this movie has no idea how school works. The dance has zero security.

You aren't allowed to leave your students alone to take a phone call. But what about a 1994? Yeah, well, I can't speak to leave your students alone to take a phone call. But what about a 1994? Yeah, well, I can't speak to that. In 19, when I was a kid, I mean, it was pretty free. Pittsburgh! It's Pittsburgh! And she says that he needs to pull his grade up by giving an oral presentation with visual aids and footnotes.

How do you give footnotes during... That's what I'm saying. Yeah. I thought where we were heading with the class was that he was failing math. Same. And I was like, oh, actually... Oh, that's fun.

V is great at math, and we're actually going to come around at the fact that we're not buying an ice cream store. She's like, I'm going to start tutoring. I would have... Great that would have won over skills. No, she's worth... And she's where the movie is limited, right? Like, we don't get to understand is what her goals are

beyond motherhood or beyond just sort of like suburbia, she has any other interests. And so I'm wondering that the whole movie and then come to find out she's purchased an ice cream shop. And I was like, wow, wouldn't have, I didn't know she was just a child. Yeah, did they tap that like at one point when was like, wow, wouldn't have, I didn't know she'd be able to just tap that. Like at one point, was she like, oh, one day, and he may know.

I think she just, I think she did like this. She did like this. She did like this. This movie is crazy. She drives off at the end without the dad and the son. She's like, base, she's like, I'll see you later. And they're like, are we gonna see you again? And she's like, I only ice cream shop. But they're like, are we gonna see you again? And she's like, I own the ice cream shop.

But that's what I loved about the ending, was it, we didn't end on them together. But they are, the presumption is they will be. Of course, however, however, in every wine, in kind of restart. She needs to restart her life, and I thought that was such a powerful choice, and it was so radically undercut by the last line of the movie,

which is from Frank, it is repeated twice, and is, I have a hair. I have a hair. And now, he is dangerous. He rips his shirt open as if he can feel it growing. She drives up and he's like, it's happening! Watching his dad get fuck, gives him, like, makes him go through puberty.

She brought the wetlands, I write here. She bought the wetlands. She bought the ice cream shop. I'm sobbing. What is wrong with me? I was. I wrote that in my notes. But I am worried, left worrying about her finances.

I totally agree, Casey. I think she blew it all. Look at her. She was a million dollars. You know, even for that time, I just, I thought, I thought, what did she like to do? What did she like to do?

94? 94 is a quarter of a million dollars. OK. Here's the great thing about sex work. You thought so much. I know, but she has something to fall back on. There you go. Plus, that hair is...

That hair seems to be doing fine. Whatever he's up to. I can't actually. They have a beautiful house. They live out in the suburbs. They're not living in a flop house in the city. They're living in the suburbs in a beautiful... They're living in that mental health practice.

What's that? Medical malpractice. Because of the dead wife? Yeah. Zolinks. Do we know that? Yeah, deleted scene. Do we know that?

We don't know it, but something obviously when something went wrong. Oh, yeah. Obviously. Oh, and he says, when Frank says that she died the, at the moment of his birth at the same time he was born that he knows that I was like, Oh, this kid is breaking my heart. He was. Yeah, I was devastating. I just wish a someone would name a baby after

me. They haven't yet. But you know what? Obviously, there's a lot of opinions here, but tonight we're going to hear some other opinions too. And now it is time for second opinions. Milk money, movie sex positivity, normalized the body, and hash RIP. All the critics clutching their pearls. I give it five stars, I give it the world. Oh, oh, sex work is work. Oh, sex traffickers are jerks. Grace Kelly wet lands leather jacket learned to dance freedom from Caligula fresh start for a new romance. Second opinions. here's one from me certified fresh in 2003

oh oh slouch shaming hurts oh oh what's up jerks sex work is work sex work is work. Thank you, Jen. Here you go. Thank you for that. Oh, great. That's a bad thing. Thank you, Jen. Thank you, Liam. And amazing. Jen, what did you put on the microphone? Oh, it's a microphone.

Great. I loved it. It's a diaphragm. Yeah. diaphragm. All right, these are second opinions from Amazon. I noticed it because she put it just against the microphone and it got sucked right onto it. It's how they work. There are 775 total reviews, 80% are five star.

Let's get right into it. 80% are five star? Yeah, that's right. We're only 2% or 1 star. From William L. Hendrix, he writes, cute, some funny, some serious. Melanie steals the show from Harrison Ford. Oh!

Oh! Oh! It's just a good, lighthearted story about how business goes. So I didn't want to read that end one more time. Just a good lighthearted story about how business goes. All right. Ramon Villalobos writes this.

Was a little distracted by the children in this film attempting to render the services of a prostitute. Certainly this is not legal, but she seems to go along with it, question mark. And the love story between the aforementioned prostitute and one of the boy's fathers, but as an environmentalist myself, I was moved by the story of one man's exotic attempts to save a marshland from the ravages of capitalism. Five stars! Ed Harris thrills as a man almost blindly focused on his attempts to save a precious ecosystem to the point where he ignores his own sons longing for parental

guidance and criminal activities. Very cute and should delight the entire family. where he ignores his own son's longing for parental guidance and criminal activities. Very cute and should delight the entire family. Highly recommend. Oh, one minor critique might be the other UDDER, lack of milk in this film. Whoa! Five stars. You agree with that part, though?

I do agree that there of milk any of it. As a milk attendant. Oh, god. Milk attendant. And please, please read a follow-up called, that is a follow-up that brings this universe, that's a Jeremy Renner movie called The Milk Locker. Ha, ha, ha.

This one is written by Ward, very funny movie, and the acting was very realistic. There were many times when the man in the movie was saying something that was interpreted entirely differently by the female, which made for a very funny situation. The plot was very interesting and unusual. That classic man man woman scene there

alright so uh... that's what we got people i mean we really broke this movie down all i could go for hours more twenty million dollar budget uh... opening weekend five million made eighteen point one million dollars came in number uh... came in number 80 of all the movies of 1994. The top movies of the 80. Yeah.

The top three were Lion King, Far scum, and true lies. This is a hard year. Yeah, tough year. It's a hard year to break through. This movie did beat Street Fighter, Ghost in the Machine and Jubble Dragon, but it was beat by the specialist time cop, disclosure, the shadow, junior, and color of night. A real banner year ahead of this get made. Incredible year. Big year for us on the show and some of the titles it was in other

countries we've been doing this choosing mommy. That's an Argentina. Oh! I'm so- Paul, I just didn't hear you. What? Choosing mommy. That's Argentina. Cool.

If somebody could just isolate that and make a song out of it. And-and Greece, Jason your homeland, it was called a woman for daddy. Yes! Jason your homeland, it was called a woman for daddy. Yes. You would be shocked how often I say those exact words. In Turkey, this movie was called Little Womanizer. And in Canada, this movie was called when the kids get involved. Oh. That's very Canadian. So, I mean, I think I could tell

from the way that you all speak of it, you highly recommend this movie. Yeah, yeah. I, you know, again, there are some scenes in the movie that should not ever be seen. You know, they shouldn't, they should be cut, they should be animated, I don't know what should happen, but something should happen.

It's one of those scenes when he says, I wanna make a love. It's a deal with that. No, you know what one of the scenes is? That's like absolutely should be, like none of us should be able to watch. Is when the little boys are ugly and the little girls walking into school

and the camera gives us... I was gonna play that as a side shot. That's the shot where I was like, this I can. Absolutely. And I in trouble, what is it? I shouldn't, is this a loud? Is this a trick?

Yeah, it was, again, we have to know that, you know, we have to know that that's a part of this. We have to take responsibility and yet. And yet. And yet. And yet. There are this movie really, I was really connected to the characters. I love that they didn't end with her and the kid and the husband and the house. I don't even know if she's going to live there. I don't know where she's going.

You know, I picture her living above the ice cream shop. And I think that's great. I really do. And I just enjoyed it and it really spoke to me. When she said, you know, what she's saying about where you can touch a woman and her. There's a special place. That part was a wee part.

You see by the way. I part was a weeper. He's right by the way. I cried that I cried where she held the backpack. I will argue that the reason why he goes to, he's like, oh, that's where you touch a woman. He goes to touch his heart and he's like, a hair. Oh. Oh, I bet you're right.

Yeah. But he feels it through his shirt. Well, he's like, he's like, well, June. Yeah, you can always feel him. Oh, he's trying He's trying to finger his own heart and whoa Casey it's been so lovely to have you back welcome back to the show I'm so happy to be who is really feeling Feeling so much. I mean It feels really good to be back and it feels like we mended some things.

I think so, and I think we needed this time to heal. And I wanna give a shout out, this beer is incredible. It was really good. I'm genuinely loving it. Yes, this is from our friends at the wrong crowd that's the beer company out of Chester, Pennsylvania with their, where does the butt start, pale, ale? I wish I could drink it.

And by the way, it says in the back, it says, what's up jerks, we got a hot tip to try out experimental hot variety. Well, this goes on to about the beer. Now, there's a couple of references to our show, but it's not enough for me to read the whole thing. Team, team sanity. But I appreciate it all.

Casey wanted to tell us anything you want anyone to do and say. Oh, and do you wanna reconsider any of your opinions on drop dead Fred? Don't wanna go back there, Jason. Fair enough. Host Bich Desh podcast, if you like housewives and comedy. And I'm just so happy to be here and I really feel better about YouTube.

Wow. Yeah, I feel better too. Yeah. June and I will talk about it on our phone call later. Paul. Wow. Thank you. I feel better too. Yeah. June and I will talk about it on our phone call later. Paul, I'll call you. Yeah, we'll be there. All right, thank you all for coming out tonight. Thank you.

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