How Did This Get Made? - Monkeybone LIVE! w/ Rob Huebel

Episode Date: January 16, 2026

Brendan Fraser stars in 2001's Monkeybone—a dark comedy based on a child's erection that's a Drop Dead Fred situation wrapped in a Jacob's Ladder scenario. LIVE from NYC, HDTGM all-star Rob Huebel helps Paul and Jason discuss Stu's flabby arm fetish, if Bridget Fonda was an unethical doctor, Chris Kattan's electric performance as a reanimated corpse of a gymnast, all the weird characters in Down Town, Monkeybone's sex scene with Julie, and so much more. Plus, special guest Griffin Newman from the Blank Check podcast drops by to passionately defend Monkeybone as a great film. Oh, and the crew talk with MULTIPLE audience members who have actually been in a coma. • Do YOU want to pick the movie for an upcoming ep? Vote on our discord here• Get 20% off tix to see Jason in ALL OUT on Broadway by using code ALLOUTPOD at AllOutBroadway.com• Go to hdtgm.com for tour dates, merch, FAQs, and more• Have a Last Looks correction or omission? Call 619-PAULASK to leave us a voicemail!• Submit your Last Looks theme song to us here• Join the HDTGM conversation on Discord: discord.gg/hdtgm• Buy merch at howdidthisgetmade.dashery.com/• Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of Trauma• Shop our new hat collection at podswag.com• Paul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheer• Paul’s YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheer• Follow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer• Subscribe to Enter The Dark Web w/ Paul & Rob Huebel: youtube.com/@enterthedarkweb• Listen to Unspooled with Paul & Amy Nicholson: unspooledpodcast.com• Listen to The Deep Dive with June & Jessica St. Clair: thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcast• Instagram: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & @junediane• Twitter: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & msjunediane  • Jason is not on social media• Episode transcripts available at how-did-this-get-made.simplecast.com/episodesGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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the Brendan Frazier stop motion, live action kids movie? Monkey Bone. If you've not seen Monkey Bone, our whole audience has. It is about, according to IMDB, in a coma, a cartoonist finds

himself trapped within his own underground creation and must find a way to get back while racing against his popular but treacherous character, Monkey Bone. No, that's not right. That is not right at all. It's a terrible description. I wish AI wrote it.

It is directed by Henry Selleck and, boy, oh boy, if you don't know the year this movie was produced, you might be surprised. It has a 21 on the tomato meter and a 29 in the audience meter. So just a little bit higher, we're going to break this film down. A film that, in the 15 years of doing how did this get made, I literally wrote down in my notes, how did this get made?

Completely boggled me. I was like, how would the script look like? Why did anyone agree to this? Bridget Fonda? Is this why she stopped acting? But tonight, we will try to explain it all. and we have some very special help. But first, let me introduce my co-host, Mr. Jason Manzoukas.

Let's go, New York! Yeah! That's right. Oh! Jason? Paul! Monkeybone. Never seen it?

Never heard of it. And having watched it, I still don't know if I've seen it. I was flummoxed and confounded. buy it on almost every level. I watch this movie at 10 a.m. today. And when I was the most clear-headed...

I watched it on the train yesterday and was like, I hope people don't see that I'm watching this. Jason, we have so much to break down. Oh, let's get it. And, you know, we wanted to bring out a very special guest tonight.

A person who is a... How did this get made? All-Star. Been on a handful of episodes. know him from shows like Children's Hospital and Transparent, Human Giant, and most importantly, he loves to let the bodies hit the floor. Please welcome Rob, Humble! Welcome, Rob. I didn't even know that you had that queued up.

I was like, oh, this would be, like, you... Two seconds ago, I go, is there anyway you could play, let the bodies hit the floor and this lovely one that was like, right now? She did it. Wow. The tagline of this movie, Get Boned. The other one is

if it yells, if it swings, it's got to be monkey bone. And then Bone to be bad. Bone to be bad. I like bone to be bad. I'm crossing my legs because thinking of the movie makes me hard.

Well, I mean... It gave me like one of those throwback teenage boners. That's what the whole movie's about, basically. Oh, yeah. Well, this is the question, right? They refer to him at one point as a figment of his imagination.

This is a drop-dead Fred situation. Well, I literally was thinking. This is a drop-de-fred situation wrapped in a Jacobs Ladder situation, I believe. I believe we are double situation here. I mean, because this is I mean, it is an erection that has become loose, right?

I mean, that's... Oh, yeah. And I guess the thing that I'm like... Well, first of all, I have an issue because... A sentient, loose dick is running around. I have a... Before we jump in, I have a super quick question. Yeah.

Because I think maybe you or the audience... In the trailer that we all watched, number one, monkey bones accent varied. Voice is completely different. It sounds just like Tuturo normal. Taturo. But in the movie it sounds like Totoro is doing Steve Bishamie.

Am I right or am I wrong? I thought it was Bishammy. I thought it was Joey Pants. Oh, that would be good too. But I thought it was Bishemi so much that when I saw it was Terturo I was like, oh weird, maybe he's just doing a Bishmi impression and then I watch this and it's just him

normal voice. Also in this, I don't remember a big pipe. I don't remember a big pipe falling as the inciting incident for his coma situation. I do have the original opening and the alternate ending.

Oh, you're telling us there's more monkey bone to watch? There's a lot more bone where that came from. Oh, man. Oh, don't worry, we've got a couple of more inches. I imagine that that voice change is because at a certain point when they found the film to be unreleased

and the director, Henry Selleck, was... A legitimate legend. Henry Selleck from Coraline, James and the Giant Peach, The Nightmare Before Christmas. Like, a true legend makes this absolute fever nightmare.

Well, was this after those? Well, you want to guess what year it is? This is always a good question. Like, if you know it, then it's not fun, but do you guys know? I don't know. The only thing at the very end, and I don't want to jump ahead,

but maybe I won't. She says something, she makes a style. Park joke. Oh, yes. Okay. And I was like, okay, so this is in that... But South Park has been on the air for like many, 20 years, more than 20 years. I feel like I've been burned on this so many times before. I want to say this is like in the 90s, but I feel like you're going to tell me it came out in 2018. Like, I feel like I've fallen for this before and you're about to be like, it is actually a new release in theaters now. It is Brendan Fraser's post-Wale release.

You can see this in 40X at any AMC. No, I thought it was also like 90s. It felt to me like Georgia the Jungle era. Big time. 2001. So I was still surprised. Hold on. Before or after September 11th.

Well, interesting fact, it caused September 11th. Whoa. That makes sense. It was on the screens on the planes? Everyone was so busy walking it. Okay, temperature check on New York. The balcony. gets it. That's right. Our balcony

monsters here, they know what's up. Yeah, everyone was so busy watching it that that's what happened. Yes. Here's what I'll say. I think we're going to come up against this throughout the discussion, so I think it's worthy of putting out there. Henry Seleck fired from the

film. Studio goes, we need to fix this so they hire Christopher Columbus to come in and make it more palatable. This movie? Yes. Home alone, Chris Columbus. Yes, Harry Potter, Chris Columbus. So basically I think that that voice change and things like that.

Discoverer of America, Chris Columbus. 1492. The name's the Santa Maria. The, so that I think is something like we're going to see as we look at some of the footage. That's why things have changed. But I think premise-wise, the movie has not changed at all because it still is about an erection that goes wild. And I will say this. I know it's very hard to create a compelling cartoon,

but the movie opens up with a cartoon, then I'm like, goes, then that's the pilot. I'm like, oh, terrible pilot. Yeah. Terrible pilot, and is what, the pilot two minutes? And I understand it's a compacted version of the pilot, but I'm like, what are we watching? I have notes on the pilot.

Well, I really like the cartoon because I also am very aroused by flap, like arm flaps. If I see that on an older teacher, is it ba-doing. I guess, like, this is my question. Like, was this movie supposed to be like South Park? Well, to me, it felt like, it felt like the Monkey Bone cartoon that Stu has created at that time feels like it's very red and stumpy coded. Okay.

Kind of gross out, kind of like, you know, like that era of animated stuff. It felt like, and so much so that I was like, oh, is he supposed to be a John Kay kind of character before we all realized that John K. was a villain. Sure. Well, but that was the thing. I couldn't quite tell what it was going for. It's like, that's our pilot. They looked like they were showing it where you would have a wake. I had a bit of

a panic attack because I didn't know anything about the movie. Welcome to how did this get made. I was worried that the whole movie was that cartoon. Oh, yeah. I was in my hotel and I was like, fucking sheer, man. No, it gets weirder and worse.

And look, he is a frustrated, I mean, and this is the thing, I don't know even about this guy because we kill him immediately. Yep. He seems to be very, I mean, we know he's successful from the pilot that is not aired, yet is merchandised like crazy. Well, he doesn't want to do the merch. Exactly. He doesn't like the biz aspect of it. He wants to get married to his lady.

He's like a true Gen X doesn't want to sell out. Fuck that shit. I'm a purist. My stuff matters. not like now where everybody can't wait to get that bag. But it seems to me like, well, you drew this thing about a dick running loose. Like, no one forced your hand on this. Like, he's like, I'm so frustrated with this thing that I create.

The success of my cartoon yet. And it has not even been successful yet. Also, they seem to, the merchandising options are aimed very much at young children. The cartoon absolutely is. is not. There's no way that cartoon, that horny, boner cartoon, is meant for little kids the same way that all of the merchandise is absolutely for little kids. And I guess, so all the monkey wants to do is fuck, right? That's the premise and the boy doesn't want to fuck.

Well, little boys... No, what do you mean? Do you mean in the pilot? He's embarrassed because he got a boner. Right, but it's the boys, like, oh, flabby arms. But I guess the movie does hypop- This was like a, this was one of those like, oh, no, I'm having an uncontrollable boner in school. Everybody's going to make fun of me, and they do.

But he also says, flabby arms turn me on. Oh, no, absolutely. This is a moment where we see a fetish being born. Yes. You know, like. But also creative problem solving, just stacking books on. on your boner. Yes. What I couldn't figure out was, like, I feel like then

Stu's kink or fetish would have been flabby-armed people. But he doesn't, that never comes back again. Never comes back. You know? That's the only thing wrong with the movie, really. That's it. Case closed. Good night. Now, I guess

and I don't want to, like, talk about kids fucking, but I will say... I'll talk about it. I'm against it. By the way, me too. And that's shirt. No kids fucking. But what's the relationship between the boy and the boner?

We're getting real wrapped around the axle here, I think. I mean, I think the relationship between the boy and the boner is that it's his penis getting erect. Right, but I mean, I think, and then Stu's obviously turning it into a monkey

that is so out of control, the way that your boner is out of control when you're that age. You're like, I don't know why it's doing what it's doing. I mean, I'll just explain it to you. What happens is your body becomes engorged with blood. Right. And it rushes down to your penis. Got it. And all the blood squirts out of your pee hole. Yeah. That's, I was forgetting. It's like all of your white blood cells pour out of the penis. And the red blood cells stay inside your body. Right. Now I got it. And that's where babies come from. And please, no doctors or nurses correct us.

I guess what I was thinking was, like, I feel like the movie's trying to set up a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde scenario. Like, the version of him that's the monkey is sex crazed, and then he is depressed. I mean, like, he seems like he wants to get back to being depressed.

I think the monkey is a very, like, id, it's just his unchecked id, and he is then otherwise all super ego, I guess, controlled. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's kind of like his other side is neither

it's not even interesting at all. Like it's not like I'm the buttoned up guy. And the bummer is that when he gets sent to downtown, whatever the underworld is here, land of the dead. He is, I don't understand what he's up to. He seems like, I don't know,

I got to get out of here. I don't want to be here. What a bummer did not want to be in the coolest place ever? But is it also is downtown specific to him. I thought it was. I thought he was going to, in his imagination, because it seemed like, oh, these are characters that I created, but no.

No, because there's a Picasso bull. There's a Joe Camel. There's a Joe Camel. This fucked me up. The Joe Camel character fucked me up. I rewind. It's a great Joe Camel. It's better than Joe Camel. It's so much better than Joe Camel because you can fuck it.

But yeah, I think that's just everybody's nightmares. Okay, so everyone's nightmares. Now then I haven't, now I'm jumping ahead to say, so everyone there, they're in purgatory, waiting to either go back up or... Go down. Go down. So are they all in comas?

That's what I couldn't, I didn't know either. So is Stephen King in this movie in a coma? Great question. Why is Stephen King in this movie? Yes. Why is Stephen? Why are those Stephen King's... But is that Stephen King or an actor playing Stephen King?

So Stephen King was supposed to be in the movie. Oh, okay. Did not show up on the day that they were shooting it. And then they put that guy in it. Just like somebody on the crew? Yeah. But I mean, but that's another thing. It's like, all right, so...

Is this the only movie that Stephen King has acted in? No, he was in maximum overdrive, I believe. A movie he directed insanely. Yes. Is that about a fuckable car? Can you fuck that car? No, that's Christine. No, that's Christine.

No, you can't fuck. Christine. I did. Oh. I think you can fuck any car, but none of those movies were about explicitly fucking a car. Great point. Great point. New York's not a car culture. You wouldn't get it. They don't even know what a car is. It's like a personal subway, a car. So, so now, uh... You guys would understand it as, can you fuck a bus? But I guess the thing is, he's there, and then when he's there, and then when he's sees this old man who looks, and I'm not trying to be ageist at all.

Yeah, don't. They look very, very old to me. And he's like, no, he can't die. I'm like, why not? Like, why not? Like, why, like. Yeah, we didn't get to know that character. I think that was just to establish the exit past.

Right. But he was, but he's trying to stop the old man from dying. There's like, oh, no? He's trying to stop him from leaving. Oh, okay. Going back to, right? Wait, the old man's going back up. Waking up.

Oh, yeah. The old man gets a ticket to exit, puts the helmet on. Oh, right. And the hammer hits the mallet, and he goes flying into Abe Lincoln's Zardaw's head. Yes. This is an Abe Lincoln Zardaw's head. Incredible stuff. I never got to see the old man's boner either.

No. I mean. Yeah. And why is his boner in purgatory? Wait, you mean monkey bone? Monkey bone seemingly exists in... Oh, okay, so, okay, so that's a great question. Stu, aka Brendan Frazier.

Yes. Fraser. When he's in the... AKA Encino Man. And AKA the Whale. When he's in downtown, when he's in this limbo world, do you think he has no dick? Because...

No, he's turned on by the girl. His dick has left his body and is now... But he's turned on. No, because he's turned on by that girl because he's like, I love my girlfriend. And that girl kind of comes in for the kiss, the cat. Rose McGowan. Oh, yeah.

I'm just talking about her character. By the way, if this, if that, this is a bigger question, but, like, I don't know who this movie is for, but like, there's a lot of Rose McGowan's boobs in this movie. Well, yes. But he goes from literally saying, I love my girlfriend.

I was going to ask you to marry me. And then Rose McGowan just going to leans and he's like, oh. I'm like, wow, you really dropped that quick. Yeah. You don't even know this person. Well, that's it. The monkey, too, crawls down her shirt, and then he says, I left my phone number in your panties or something like that.

Which is a pretty... I've tried that move. It doesn't work. Doesn't work. June would be furious at this conversation right now. June is so thrilled she didn't have to watch this movie. June is thrilled that she... I know that she had it on her plane.

It was already on the tarmac with the laptop open. If she watched it, it would be... I'm going to hear it. I will tell you, but I mean, so he hates the monkey. So I guess my question is, and I keep on asking questions, to just establish reality. So is Joe Camel somebody's monkey bone? Oh, wow, because Joe Camel is a dick.

Yes. I mean, like, it is, like, it looks like a dick. So remember there is a, oh, this is a deep cut, but there was a thing on those cigarettes where you could see dicks, right? Yes, Joe Camel. We're getting off topic now, but. In fact, we're not. We're sponsored by Campbell cigarettes.

But yeah, so Joe Camel is there. I don't know that everything downtown represents a boner. Because some of it is nightmares. Some of it is nightmares. Quite a lot of it, I believe, is nightmares. Because also, Purgatory is the place where we create nightmares.

So it's a little monsters running out of nightmares, too. That was like the real problem. Why? They want doctors... Paul, if you have to ask. They want Dr. Bridget Fonda's nightmare juice. Which is a lot of. real, that's real. Why in her sleep

study, why in her sleep study have she created nightmare juice? Like, what is, what is the possible use for nightmare juice? And why would you call it nightmare juice? And just keep it in like a thing in the refrigerator?

I couldn't make heads or tails out of that also. And is that chimpanzee being tortured by a nightmare? Clearly, yes, as is the dog. Like, there's a lot of very aggressive animal cruelty in this movie. Why hadn't Julie the girlfriend, Bridget Fonda, says at one point that he had not had a good night sleep in years. Right. Why? Well, because his nightmares are, he's, what blew my mind was she says

in that section of the movie that before he saw her, he had never drawn cartoons. He just drew those crazy nightmare paintings. Oh, right. Right. And that after she started working with him and he could sleep more, and then he started doing the, the monkey bone cartoons. Well, because he started drawing, with his other hand. Oh, that's right. Right. Thank you. So.

Now, is his other hand his dick? And is she fucking her patience? Yes, she's fucking her patience. Absolutely. Also, okay, so he's in a coma. Again, this is for kids. Maybe.

Maybe it's for kids. This is for kids whose parents have recently died. Yes. And they're just like living alone. This is for latchkey kids. Yes. Yeah.

Your parents still come home. That's right, Lachkey kids. Where are you? Where are you, Lachkey kids? Yeah. If your parents asked, what did you watch? You could just say, oh, this movie, Monkeybone. Right, they wouldn't ask a follow-up question.

What's crazy is he's in a coma. Megan Malali incredibly plays his callous sister who can't wait for him to die. Three months. And in a way that I was like, oh, when he dies, she must make money. or she must be a reason she's so glib about him dying. The reason they give is because they saw a parent die and they agreed. They'd never let each other suffer. But what's absolutely clear is that his brain activity is off the charts.

He's in a coma, yes. But is he brain dead? Absolutely not. In fact, his brain waves are going double crazy, as Dr. Julie says. Well, that's the plan, is to make him even more. Nightmares that you can shock him away. But you wouldn't pull the plug on someone who was that much, had that much brain activity. Well, but that's why they gave it a nice time.

Now, I've been in a situation where the plug has been pulled on somebody. I won't get into that story. That's a different podcast. That's a different podcast. No, but they don't schedule it. They're like, well, they're going to pull the plug tomorrow at 9 a.m. It's not like spoken about like. And you can't stop it.

Yeah, you cannot stop it. I just got an Evite to a plug pull. It was such a. What am I supposed to bring? A covered dish. Like, oh, yeah, well, you only have until tomorrow morning at 9, then you did. I'll show you this one alt-clip 4. But this is a scene that was edited out with Stu and his sister.

Alt-clip 4. Here we go. Michaela, do you have that one? All-clip-for-a-sister one? You can't find that one. Okay. Well, then we don't have it. Well, there was a scene where Stu comes on to his sister.

Wait, once he's monkey bone? When he's stew or when he's monkey bone? He's monkey bone. Okay, so monkey bone comes up. Monkey bone is trying to fuck his sister. Yeah, that's okay. I mean, monkey bone doesn't know any better. That's what he's born to do.

Yeah. So monkey bone is a monkey. That's the other thing that was having an issue with. It is his id, but it's a full monkey. Like he's hanging and swinging and wanting bananas. It's interesting what you're saying. And yeah, because it's fuzzy because yes, it is his boner and yes, it is It is all of the urges and all of the kind of animal instincts are contained in it.

But it is a physical boner at times, or it seems to be. But he also has distinct monkey-like actions. He's literally hanging from things. Yes. He's swinging and hanging and go, woo-hoo-hoo at times. And so he's also doing straight monkey stuff. Yeah. So I would say he's doing Mr. Peeper's stuff.

Yes. We'll get to that. Well, well, well, we'll get to that. Yes, indeed. I will say. and not for nothing, we could get to it now. Chris Catan, late in the movie. Late in...

I mean... Comes in, comes in, and single-handedly is electric. The physical comedy that he, the broken neck, all the broken neck stuff was killing me.

Unbelievable. When he takes the yardstick, jams it down his back, The tape and then spins around. Yes. All in one take. Next level. Unbelievable.

Really elevated the third act of this, which was absolutely nuts. Now, but I guess what I'll say about it is we are led to believe that stew is a boring nothing burger. But when he's in the body of Chris Catan, I've got to say he's very inventive, very outgoing, and broad equally like a monkey bone. Here's my question, though. when he's in Chris Catan's body, he's somehow still able to execute all of the gymnastics abilities

that Chris Catan's human... Well, that was like... Because it's like, so is he sharing a brain? That's what I was wondering. And I was like, oh, I wish they'd explore this some more. Well, how did the gymnast die? The newspaper on the bus is the tragic death of famous gymnast, but they don't explain how does he die.

And I won't... I don't want to be mean. Oh, he must have broken his neck, right? Yes, he breaks his neck, but we don't know. Well, that happens to every gymnast. They all break their necks. I don't want to be mean at all, but I will say this. Even in 2001, if a gymnast died, it's not getting front page of any paper.

They would have to have done something insane. You just pissed off a lot of gymnasts. You're going to get so many videos. We're going to hear from the gymnasts in the fan base. Because they also positioned him to be very famous, but yet he is taking public. transport. I mean, people do notice him around. He's, I do have

I have issues with that second half, but I do, I do like it. There was a YouTube. Oh, you have issues? Oh, you have issues with some of the movie? Oh, wow. Just a couple things. Some of the choices they made they didn't work for you. Now, Whoopi Goldberg's in this. Oh, yeah.

Oh, the cast is, the cast is wall-to-wall, like, next-level talent. Explain? to me how that happens. Who read this? I love... I have... I did a show with Megamalli.

Megamalli is the funniest person on Earth. So funny. It is a crime. It is a crime. How underused she is. Like, they don't give her anything. Bob Odenkirk. Also. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

You have a... Thomas Hayden Church is in this. Whoopi Goldberg. Like, G. and Carlo Espozito, Rose McGowan. It is a murderer's row of people. All of the surgeons, Oden Kirk and all that team is all people you know, and it's all in

service of nonsense. I mean, and who, but I do feel like Megan Malali gets to be funny. The only person does not get to be funny aggressively is Bridget Fonda. I feel like I love Bridget Fonda and I watch her in this movie. I'm like, wow, they really like,

whatever they did it's like, I don't know what she is in any way. whatsoever. I think they sold her. They said, do you want to kiss Chris Catan and Brendan Frazier? She was like, yeah.

I felt like Chris Catan had to kind of force that kiss. He did hold her face. She wasn't leaning in for it. But Chris Catan also has a moment where he's like, it's me. I called you by her name. I got my monkey here.

He's wrecking everything. And she's like, okay, it's not him. Like, wait, what do you mean? He just gave you. like 10 context clues that it is him. So much crazy. And she's already had multiple experiences with monkey bone as stew that seem like it's not stew. Right. So when a dead, when the reanimated corpse of a gymnast arrives with his head taped to a T-square, you might be like, now hang on. I'm going to

listen to this. Stranger things have happened. I also fully expected. I also fully expected. I I couldn't figure out. I fully expected there to be a love story in the downtown between Stu and Rose McGowan's character, because I felt like they were trying to see that somehow. But you can't because he's in love. No, because we're meant to believe in true love between him and Julie. But he's been there for three months, so maybe it dies. Yeah.

And does time work the same there? Who knows? I mean, he grew a full beard in the bed. I mean, that was a good-looking beard. I mean, you can do that in a couple days. A good sneeze will get. get that much beard out. My favorite moment was Megamaliy

appearing through the window of the hospital. She was smoking. Yeah, she was smoking out there on the patio, yeah. But it is also just, it felt to me like she's like, I want to do something interesting and funny and not be in this room. Because I didn't feel like that should be an option for her to be

smoking in and out, like a patio leaning in through a hospital room. You mean the hospital rooms don't have balconies? Yeah. What, when did, okay, What was the movie we did? Cool World? Yes.

Where Brad Pitt enters cartoon world? But that was his cartoon world. Well, no, Brad Pitt was the cop. Will one of the nerds tell us what's going on? Gabriel Burns cartoons. He goes in, Brad Pitt was the cop trying to bust him in his own cartoon world, right? Okay.

So Gabriel Byrne knows the worlds. What year was that roughly? Oh, okay. So that's fully, so okay, because this was giving me that vibes-wise? Yes. Of like, oh, a person getting trapped in their cartoon? This is everybody, every executive's like,

I don't know why Roger Rabbit worked, but I think we can do it too. Yeah. And then you go, yeah, yeah, yeah, and he's in this way. Oh, yeah, love it, love it, love it. And he's a dick. Oh, yeah, love it, love it. Well, you know what's true about that?

Is this movie Monkey Bone is as horny as Roger Rabbit is in Roger Rabbit. And maybe that is the direct connection they're trying to make is those other movies, didn't work because the animated character wasn't fucking horny enough. Well, but Kim, Batesner... What if the character was a dick?

Literally, an engorged, a blood-filled penis. But as a monkey... I have a question, just to go back to Whoopi Goldberg for a second. God of death? Yes, the God of death. So Whoopi Goldberg at one point is approving these other, like, grim reapers,

you know, those guys? Well, the people in the white, the white, Robs. They are like so Brendan Fraser should be in a white robe to be judged, right? No. No. They are like I think Oh they're like Grim Reaper. Oh they're Grim Reaper. They go out. Yeah. Remember they arrived to give the old man

your egg his exit check. So he was gonna he was gonna dress up like that and then be able to Okay got it. So then so then they got busted and then somehow her head exploded and there were a bunch of interchangeable. Why? Why do? Why are there extra heads. Why are they thinking that somehow in the future her head will get destroyed and we will need

replicas that we can just install? Well you should read my prequel script that is self-well I mean self-published but yeah you should read it's good. I would love to. But she's also not the devil like that's the other thing about this movie. She's not damning people. She's like oh your time on earth is over and that's it. Like she's seemingly benevolent. Right? I mean, like, she's not... Yeah, I think she's death. She's just sort of agnostic.

She's like, your time is up, and you're just down here now, and these are the rules, basically. But yet there is this purgatory where nothing is happening before you get to... Like, you don't do any trials or tribulations. You just wait until... You just seem to have... You seem to be able to hang out in a space that seems kind of like where you might buy supplies in a video game. Right. You know what I mean?

It's the kind of weird town you stumble. stumble on in fallout and you're like, oh, everybody here's kind of a reanimated corpse, and I guess this is where I buy ammo? Like that whole world, I was like, and what they failed to give us by only giving us downtown is we don't understand any kind of hell or heaven. We only know this middle ground, this netherworld. But then also in the nether world, hypnose is there, who is the sleep god, Who's the brother of Whoopi Goldberg.

Yes. Okay. So sleep and death are closely related. I like that as an idea. Well, sleep is kind of a... Sleep is a bit of a death. Yeah, that's... Sleep is our nightly death.

I like that. An orgasm is a little death. So monkey bone... Wow. That all makes sense now. A poop is a birth. Big or little. Sometimes just watery.

So then... I'd edit that out. I'll edit that out. Keep it all in. I have another quick question. Well, yeah, go for it. I don't want to jump around too much. You can't.

You can jump around. But there was a... Like House of Pain tells us. Okay. Jump around. Well, just jump up and get down. Jump, jump, jump, jump. The sex scene between them.

Yes. We got to talk about that. Yeah. First of all, I feel like Bridget Fonda said, I'm not getting naked for this. You're not going to see any... Thank God. So much so that she opened her robe and wrapped it around her.

What a strange move that was. You're not going to see side boob, you're not going to see arm. You're not going to see anything. I guarantee you that that wasn't even her body in the shower. Oh, yeah. I think that was a body double. When she wrapped the robe on, I was like,

We are through the looking. That's the way my wife and I make love. Just don't look at each other. Don't look at each other. This is also I feel like, although now you tell me it's 2001 and I'm now going to go back on this, because I feel like this was an era in which butts and butt stuff, like in terms of Ace Ventura's talking butt.

Or in this one when he's like, that's not how we shake on it in Monkeyland. We rub butts. There's a lot of like butt stuff You studied monkeys. Is that true? They rub butts? They do. Oh yeah, yeah.

And you can rub their butts all you want. Great. We have one out in the lobby after the show if anyone is interested. Yes. But just to drill down on this sex scene for a second. Yeah, no, yeah. I have no desire to see Brendan Fraser's body or his ass, like shaking in my face. And like, it felt like...

Well, but you're not in love with him. That's true. Doc Julie is. The sleep doctor. But he is about to teabag her. There's one angle. There's one angle where you can tell Bridget Fonda's like, I fucking hate my agent so much. Yes.

I am giving up acting. His ass is like right here. And you can't, that's not a fake thing. That's him with his taint and balls, like right here. I couldn't figure this out at all. Like, what did they, did they think this is hilarious? Was it in the script or was Brendan Fraser like, oh, you know what would be funny? If I started like bumping like up and down or like I would, like, it's like he's going to teebag her or something in a way that I was like, she should dump him now.

Well, that's it. I have a lot of issues with Doc Julie because Dr. Julie, everything could have been justified like, you are still coming out of a coma. Just take it easy. She, she's like, he's back home the same day he comes out of a coma. he is eating cake with his hands and then he's keybagging her. All of these feel like improvised moments. They eating the cake with the hands, all that stuff.

Where did they get the footage of the monkeys having graphic sex that he's watching? They do that misdirect where you see her in the shower and you think he's looking at that and then they cut to his POV and he's watching like doggy style sex which I guess that is how. like monkeys don't do a missionary.

Monkeys don't go like... Monkey style. That's the shirt. Yes. Wait, hold on. Did we come up with missionary sex? Well, because of the missionaries. No, missionaries did. Yeah. They brought it around from land to land. Yes, they take it from country to country.

Introducing heathens to the good lord and missionaries position. Yeah. Bad to the bone. But there is a moment in here... That's what the movie is. silence is about. But, but there's a moment here where I'm like, he is having a dream chasing women in bikinis, but he's watching monkey porn, but he's also attracted to flabby-armed school teachers.

Well, you're confusing monkey bone and his, I think the thing on the golf course with, when he runs into the sand trap on the golf course, which also was a pretty cool stunt. I couldn't figure out like how they did that. Practically because he goes down. It looks great. That looked pretty cool. Unless that was all... My guess is the sand is a visual effect.

Oh, okay. And so he's just going down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know though. Yeah, yeah. But then... My guess is it's all stop motion animation, even Brendan Fraser. Are...

That's, that quick sequence where he's fantasizing about chasing the women in lingerie on the golf course. Are those... Was that 2001 lingerie? That looked like 19. It was. Somebody said. It was. Very positively.

It was. We have a lingerie expert in the house. Always have. We travel with her every show. She brings, just in case we have a lingerie question. We have Morgan, of course, our Dungeons and Dragons expert. We have our lingerie expert. And I will say that she is just a 2001 lingerie expert.

So you can't. Before or after 9-11, man. Yes. I'm sure it changed dramatically. Oh, after 9-11. 11, everything, all the lingerie changed. But that, like, so you're right. So, were you going to say, is that his dream or the monkey's dream? I think that was his fantasy down in the underworld, I think.

Well, because he, but then he's talking to Brendan Frazier, I believe as monkey bunny because he goes, in the day, that's you. But down here, you're with me. You're monkey asses, mine. Right. So I think. That, so I think that hypnosis, the god of sleeps is, is telling him like, your monkey ass belongs to me. And we're running out of nightmares. We've got to go get some more nightmare juice.

But isn't monkey bone hypnosis agent in the real? Isn't this their plan that they can talk to together? He's saying to him, he's like, you aren't getting me enough bad dreams, asshole. I see. I see all the fart juice. Now I understand. I see, I see. Not fart juice.

Fart Juice. Fart juice. That's a movie. We got to pitch that movie. Do not steal that idea. Fart Juice is going to come out next summer. I felt like that whole farting toy thing came in so late.

I was like, oh, give me the farting toy thing way earlier. Make that the plan. And why does he have to put A, so much of it in the butts? But also it's like, it seems like that vial of nightmare juice is only going to affect a ham. handful of people. Oh yeah. Well, no, but I mean they're giving it the toys are going to go to

everyone. Oh, you mean just the amount of happening? But I mean, yeah, so say, all right, so they do a thousand people. Is that enough nightmares to fuel all the underworld? That's like, this is a great question. And I'd love to spend the rest of the episode just drilling down on the, the metrics of how much nightmare juice per capita can give enough nightmare return to fuel downtown's energy needs. because this is a renewable resource. Here's all I'm saying. We need to stop using fossil fuels and power our cars off of nightmares. I want to see more of a Jack Nicholson Batman moment where he's like, oh, we got the new

parade float, the monkey bone parade float, and he's going to delst the whole city with nightmare juice. But it seems like you have to have a lot of nightmare juice because then Dave Foley, also a very funny person. Back when actors could get away with. purple face. Oh. Man, talk about a moment

at the end. They'll go closer there where he pops up. They put a lot of pressure on that line too. But I want to drill down real quick on when he goes to the sleep institute to break in to steal

the nightmare juice. He does fuck that monkey. There's an orangutan. He just fuck that monkey. That's not a monkey. That's an orangutan. Tan. Tang.

Tang. Tan. Tan. Ranat tan. It an orangutan. A rangat tan. And a kangat tan. I don't know why he's in a cage.

I guess he's part of the sleep study. I guess, yes. He's part of the nightmare. That he, Brendan Fraser, kisses. Yep. Yeah. But or more. And then the orangutan rips off his fucking pants.

Yes. Yes, because the orangutan wants it to go farther. Because I think the orangutan understands that there's a monkey in here. The same way that the dog understands, that's not him in there. Like, I think all the animals. know what's going on. So the orangutan is like, I'm going to fuck you. Because... I feel like that was edited out.

I feel like the monkey... Sorry, the orangutan did fuck him. Yes, 100%. In the prison cell probably for, you know, atmosphere. And then... Wait, the prison cell in downtown? No. I'm just... Oh, you mean in the lab? Yeah, in the sleep lab.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So when they're in the... When you just said prison downtown, we remember Stephen King. So Stephen King Jack the Ripper and Lizzie Borden, all there. Atila the Hun. So they're just, are they just being sucked for nightmares? Yes, because he says, Stephen King says, isn't it, that Kujo is inhabiting his body on Earth? Earth. Yeah, Kujo took his exit pass. Yes, Kujo took his exit pass. So I guess, Kudjo is his monkey bone? So yes, I think Kujo is his monkey bone, which means anything after 2001, any Stephen King book after 2001 is written by a dog?

I mean, what are we talking about it? And Kujo is up there fucking people. Yes. With Kujo's dick. Wait, did Kujo get hit by the van? Have people forgotten that Stephen King was hit by a van? Is this a story nobody remembers? Well, he was chasing after the van.

Wait, refresh my memory. Stephen King was chasing after a van because he thought. He was, yeah. No, he was. Stephen King was walking on the side of the road and he got hit by a car. That happened. Recently? No, no, no.

A while ago. Oh, thank God. Yeah, 20 years ago. My favorite story about Stephen King, and this came out recently, is that he got addicted to Lou Bega's Mamba number five. Addicted? What do you mean addicted? Dicted. He couldn't stop playing it, and his wife told him, if you play it one more time, I will divorce you.

Oh, wow. Is that a little bit of Monica? Yeah. And that's... Do we have the answer to that? And he is divorced. Wait, so then I guess my question is, if Kujo is up here, then is Jack the Ripper's, like, monkey bone also up here? And who is that?

Who is Jack the Rippers? Oh. It's Rob. Who is Lizzie Borton's monkey bone? The X? Attila of the Huns, we don't know. Yeah. So some monkey bones can be violent.

Some monkey bones can be... I wish. I knew the rules. The movie would have been, the movie is so close to enjoyable in a lot of ways. If simply the rules

had been made more clear so I understood what the entire fuck was going on because without that I kept being like, I kept rewinding to be like, did I miss important plot points? I think this movie

is for kids that take mushrooms. I really do. So kids. So all kids. I will say this. Henry Seleck fell in love with Dark Town comic book. This is the source material, because this is a book that Henry Selk really wanted to

adapt. And he wrote to the author. He said, I never felt any project who was closer to my sensibilities than this one. And his initial intention was to stay true to the material. But as the project developed, it evolved into monkey bone.

That's the quote. When was he fired in the process? Seemingly late. We're going to get some more details about this in a little bit. Because I had a question there's a sequence where the Basset Hound dog that they

share or I forgot his name but Stu takes the purple sludge and gives it to the Basset Hound and puts him to sleep. What kind of nightmare did he have? They cut to the dog's dream and it's so fucked up because the dog

has huge balls and he's laying prone and they pull back and there's a giant scissors. Like, he's having this nightmare. That dogs get snipped. Yeah. But do, they had to shoot that. Yeah.

They had to anesthetize a basset hound with huge... Let's be clear. That basset hound for sure died during this production. That is absolutely clear. Let me go out to the crowd, because I think that there might be some people out here, who have some questions. We may have some answers.

All right. Hi, what's your name? What's your question? Emily, so I know you guys like to talk to people who are kind of experts in certain areas. I've been in a coma. Oh. Congratulations.

Emily has... Emily, who did you meet in your coma? Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. Are you in it right now? Are we all characters in your coma dream? Is this her monkey bone or is this Emily? All right, so what would you like to share? I just want to say that, Jason, this is a Jacobs Ladder scenario

because at a certain point when Brendan Fraser wakes up from the coma or monkey bone, his breathing tube pops out. That breathing tube would be connected to a ventilator. So there was no ventilator breathing for him if there was and the tube came out. that they've unplugged the ventilator. Well, they didn't unplug it. They snipped it. So it has to be removed by a medical professional

because if you wake up and it's in your body, you're trying to breathe and it's trying to breathe for you. You would die in seconds. So really, are we really having that react? Yeah, okay, sure. Well, can we hear a little bit more about your coma? If it's funny. If it's funny.

Keep it light. Keep it light. Don't bum us out. Just out of curiosity, how long? A few weeks. Okay. And did you go in any... Was there any roller coaster imagery?

Any jo-camel imagery? There was a lot of imagery for sure. I can't... As someone who's never had a boner, I can't... It's okay. It's okay? I cannot confirm whether or not I would have had a monkey bone. I did...

I did not. No. All right, I like it. Thank you so much for expertise. Incredible. Three weeks. Three weeks. Wow.

That was, see, that's a great one, New York. One of the best. What a great family. What a great vacation. Welcome back. Well, she didn't just get out of the colds. I don't know. I assumed you woke up to come to the show.

Your brain knew you had tickets. She said. said at 5 p.m. she got out of a coma. She's camera. Yeah, yeah, hi. Jen. Jen, what's your question? So you've shown some alternate clips of there's different cuts. Do you think there's a, in that alternate version, there's a more nefarious version of Julie where she kind

of tricks Stu into like a Stockholm syndrome version of the relationship because she very clearly has no problem manipulating his subconscious. Okay. Because... Do you mean manipulating him with the nightmare juice? Yes. When he's in the coma? You think she's an unethical doctor and that, like...

Are you reporting her? Are you trying to get her license stripped? This whole thing has been just to get this on... It's on tape. Let's go, walls fall down. All the doctors in this movie behave irresponsibly. It was very unethical and I have a master's in marriage and family counseling, so, like, I have to, like, feel like,

Oh, that's very unethical how you're behaving. You don't have to do it here. Now, here's my question. Does everyone in the audience? Here's my question for you. My question for you is, if you were faced with the imminent death of your partner or behaving unethically in order to save them, what would you choose? She just looked at her partner.

She just looked at her partner and said, bye-bye. Well, like, I'm not his doctor. She isn't either. She was. She was his sleep doctor. Only sleep doctor. A sleep study. A sleep study.

It feels like she was getting college credit for that. I don't know. She didn't even have the authority to stop Megan Malawi from pulling the plug. Pulling the plug on someone who has so much active brain going on that to pull the plug is murder. Like, I mean, when was Terry Shivo? Is that before this? Jason Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,

Jason I walk out the door for one second And I walk in and Jason's branding about Terry Shivo I am not going to hear you guys Hamm and Haugh over me mentioning Terry Shivo when you barely reacted to multiple 9-11 jokes You guys got to decide What are your levels?

The balcony gets at their asshole It's all the richy riches over here that are clutching their pearls. Terry shy, though. That's a home run reference. Assholes. What do you got? She's dressed as Rose McGowan.

Oh, nice. Fantastic movie, but also, whoa. Hi, my name is Sajida. My friends here are huge fans of your podcast, so thank you so much. But not you. Not you. Now that's interesting.

You're wearing a costume. So the question, why do they hate doctors so much on this show? Why do we hate doctors so much on this show? I feel like I've just struck out twice with questions here. I apologize to you. I will say, as Paul makes his way up into the balcony, get ready. Some of the, the third act, which is, The Catan stuff is inclusive of.

Some of the funniest shit was the surgeons in full surgical gear. Great. Running, chasing the reanimated corpse through the hospital into the parking lot. They load into a suburban. They do a car chase. Catan's organs are falling from the sky onto a barbecue. The kid plays football with it. Kids are playing football with a lot.

Paul's in the... I'm in the balcony. In the balcony. That's the kind of reception. Welcome! Yes. Balkany Monsters! Oh, yeah. Yes, yes, yes. All right.

I'll come to the person I'm closest to right now. Okay, what's your name? What's your question? Hi, Ashley. So I did a little bit of research. Apparently, Ben Stiller was originally signed on to play the main character. That's what we heard. Ultimately, Chris Catan, Brendan Fraser were a great combination of people. Would Chris Catan and Ben Stiller have been that great or would they have gone for a different actor to play the person Ben Stiller jumped into as my guess is the Ketan.

The voice. Wait, what? Ben Stiller is going to be John Juturo. Oh, I thought he was going to be Brendan Fraser. Are you sure, Paul? Are you sure? I, from what I, we're going to get some more. I'm here. Wait, let's get. Let's answer me this question. It's a good question. But I believe it was a point. Hold on one second, Paul. There's somebody right there's going. What was? What was supposed to be Ben Stiller? No. I heard someone say Ben Stiller is supposed to play Brendan Fraser's character, and then I heard, No.

I saw that you have notes. I want to see what your notes, all right? So what do you got? Oh, dude, no, I don't, yeah, yeah. I don't need to read them. Was anybody here else in a coma? Yes. Yes.

What? Hold on. Hold on. From now on, only people in comas. By the way, Paul, Paul, there's another coma over here. Oh, and I was right by her. I'm so sorry, we're only talking to coma people tonight. You have to currently be in a coma.

All right, what, hi. Hi, Paul. I was in a coma. I'm not trying to, it's not a competition, but it was exactly four weeks. How many weeks? Four weeks? Well, he is it true. What they say after three months, it goes downhill?

No, I was, it was four weeks. I was having this like DMT dream where I was in an MCSher house you'd like open a door and then you'd look you'd be looking like instead of looking like this you'd be looking down at like people on a couch playing video games and then you go in another room

but it was this real crazy maze and the end of that was I was running away because I thought they were trying to cut my dick off wow monkey bone monkey bone that's a fucking monkey bone

It's a real thing. It's in Richard Hammond's autobiography after he had his, like, racing accident, and it's a real thing, and I'm pretty sure I was having that when they were trying to put the catheter in, and I was trying to, like, protect myself. That's what the dog was also doing.

The dog was worried about... The one other thing I wanted to say is that I grew up next door to Liz Livingston, who is the creator of Drop Dead Fred. Oh, whoa. In the original script, Carrie Fisher's character was named after my mother, but the studio thought that Martha was a lame, like, old lady name. So Carlos changed it to Janie, which was the girl he was dating at the time.

But if you hear, when Fred hits her, when he hits her papers down and she's like in her office, her boss yells, Miss Chagrew! That's your mom. Wow. Wow. Wait a minute. Wait, I have one, incredible. Incredible.

Well, now we got to ask you. Incredible. I have a question. Team Fred. Yes. Is Team sanity. Yes. That's it.

Team Fred, they're the same thing. It's a short story. There's a woman my age who's an amazing artist. Her name is Liz Livingston. When her sister was born, all of these mischievous things started happening. And when her mom confronted her, she said, it wasn't me, it was dead Fred. So her mother, who's a writer

and used to edit for Reader's Digest, wrote a short story about this evil character, and it's called Drop Dead Fred. Her friend, Carlos Davies, said, this is brilliant, wrote the script, they made the movie, there was going to be a second one, and it just, the whole thing catered out

because the person they got to play Fred wanted to rewrite the script. Can I ask a question? If we had not asked, else was in a coma? I know, yeah. Would we have heard none of this? That's what I'm like living in that.

This is essential information. Do you want to come sit down here? We need more people like you down here. One more coma. One more coma person. I'm going to come back to the person that was almost, but now you're up against the wall because that person really delivered. Your coma better have been in a coma for five or more weeks.

Now you stood up with a coma. You were in a coma? Oh, she'll put her in a coma. Please don't stand so close to the edge. I'm yeah, that guy should be nervous. Please don't stand so close to the edge. Okay. We've, oh, sorry, my name's Jess.

Long Island Trash. We spent a lot of time talking about medical malpractice, but I feel like we really missed the fact that there was organ trafficking happening. Yes. Because they were talking about money, and you cannot sell organs in the United States, and they were really investing.

They were like, this will, get my Mercedes. Yeah. So I feel like the real enemy was capitalism. And that's why we hate doctors. Yes. Yes. Now...

That's why we hate doctors. Unethical doctors. I do... I mentioned that we have another special guest here tonight. Is it naked Dave Foley? No. He is running around outside. We didn't talk about Dave Foley's naked body.

you want to talk about it? What? You want to talk about it? He had a very cute bottom. I'm surprised that he did that. Well, there is one person here. One person here who knows a lot about this movie. He is a fan of this movie. You might know him from roles in such TV shows as The Tick, but also as the co-host of the Blank Check podcast. Griffin Newman is here. Where is he, though?

He's down, he's already downstairs. There he is. Oh, there is he. Oh, there he is. There we go. Take my chair. I got three things to say right off the bat. Give it up for a grip.

I brought my two copies of Monkeybone. DVD and Blu-ray because I need the high-deaf picture quality, but this doesn't have special features. Holy shit. And as we saw it tonight, the only way to see the deleted scenes from Monkeybone reliably is to have the disc. This is like, this is chilling. that you have hard media, physical media, two of Monkeybone is, like, very uncomfortable for me. We recorded a three and a half hour podcast with you guys today.

Yes. Coming up. You guys went, oh, you like Monkeybone, do you want to come on at the end and do a defense? Yeah. I said yes. I ran home. I picked up the two copies.

I came straight here. I love it. Thank you. I needed people to know. So this is a movie that you, that was a sigh to you as a child. Like, this made it good. It made things make sense.

And what are those things? When you say it made things make sense. Like what? Like puberty? I get it. This is a comedy show. And you guys all just gave it a spin this morning. You gave it one watch.

Right? And you're sort of visitors, your dilettantes. We're tourists. We're tourists. And so I don't mean to just fact check, but there are a couple things you got. wrong that I want to just quickly correct. Yeah. Also,

crucial question, have you been in a coma? I have not. Okay. There is one more coma guy over there that we didn't get to. We don't call them coma guys. Coma guys. Coma men. Coma people? Coma men. Comies.

James's. James Comies? They'll have their day in court. You're indicted. Just quick, a little speed round, fact check-in. Great. Number one, Monkey Bone is good. Okay.

Number two, Monkey Bone is normal. Okay. Number three, Monkey Bone makes sense. I feel like that's pretty much. Wow. Are you saying the movie or Monkey Bone the character? Both. Wow.

All three statements apply in both directions. There are a lot of misreads here. No, I want to, I want you to, yeah, hit us with, like, I want to get to the answer of the Ben Stiller thing. Was Ben Stiller supposed to be Brendan Fraser? Ben Stiller was supposed to be Brendan Fraser. Okay. He dropped out pretty late. Okay.

He makes more sense as an angry Gen X cartoonist, I would argue. Yes. Here's what I'll say to the guy that said, no. Earlier, you're a fucking moron. Get out of here. It was absolutely Ben Stiller. And Fraser didn't want to get pigeonholed into post-Mummy action hero. And he was like, I want to be loose.

I don't want to be taken seriously. Pushed hard for this role. Paul Rubens was supposed to be the voice of Monkey Bone. Whoa. Awesome. A man who knows something about Boner's place they shouldn't be. Edit that out. Edit that out. And maybe his memory be a blessing. I think the studio would not approve of that. Okay. But I believe he did do sessions. Wow.

And was replaced. Stiller and Paul Rubens from Mystery Men, which had already come out by them. No. Right. This was the movie that he did Mystery Men instead of this. Correct. I'm sorry. This was mostly shot in 1999 and sat on a shelf. Is that before? Before or after 9-11? Good amount before. And this is also a thought experiment I've been working on. I've been trying really hard to drill into the canon of movies to me that feel distinctly post-Y2K but pre-9-11.

Okay. And obviously, a lot of these movies were shot, you know, in 1999, or, you know, there are movies that were shot before 9-11 that came out afterwards. But there are movies that came out within that window that feel time lock to this feeling of, we just live past the apocalypse. we made it and now nothing can stop us. There's a hubris to the mania. Yeah.

And some of these films extend into sequels that go past the 9-11 point, but you feel them kind of taking on we got to like scale it down. Like Shrek 1 is a post-Y2K pre-9-11 film. Shrek 2 is firmly post-9-11. It's considering the weight of what it has to represent. Trek 1 didn't have to represent.

Shit. Sure, sure. We were in Invincible. Monkey Bone is prime somehow shot in 1999 but like a time capsule if we survive, if we make it past

Y2K, if the clocks don't kill us. This is what the future needs. We're leaving this for the next generation. Can you explain to me? Can you explain to me is one of them a foreign

monkey bone? Australian Blue Ray, American DVD. Okay. I don't like foreign Blu-rays. Let me see that Blu-Rays papers. Take it up with the Fox

Corporation who's refused to put this out in HD in the States. Oh, I wonder why. It's almost like they thought it wouldn't make money. Now, a couple quick questions. Why at the museum fundraiser, when that giant

paper mache head gets hit, or like a pinata, gets ripped open, and all the monkey toys fall out, why do all of the rich people at the fundraiser lose their fucking minds? Because they want monkey bone.

What do you mean? But it's monkey bone on the air. Because what happened was that was the pilot. He went to a coma for three months. The movie is a comment on crass commercialization. As the smart attendee up there said,

capitalism is the real evil of this film. Yes. Okay? Stu Miley is a pure Gen X artist. He is a riff. He is a third beat in the Matt Grainning, Matt Stone, Trey Parker. Your Outra kind of fucking pissing on the outside. Gen X, fuck you guys.

Who accidentally created these things that, like, captured the public id, right? The unprocessed, like, child fucking mania that then became mainstream. And in both cases, you got this like, oh, think of the children. This is ruining them. George W. H.W. Bush is like Faris. Samson's or Bha. You know, all this shit. Right. Hey, no characters.

I'm sorry. Don't you dare. What do you think this is? TBS? I'm sorry. This is not an SNL audition. Don't you dare. Character's not welcome here. Unless it's Rizoli and or Isles.

Okay, well. So it's cart before the horse, right? Here's a guy who is fucking tortured. He meets the love of his life. Right. In like a psychiatric hospital. Right. This guy is like, he's not processing his trauma through art.

But the trauma is a childhood boner? Well, no, this is where she redirects him. As she said, he was in earth therapy, and the art therapy was putting his trauma back on the page in a way that frightened him and only fed back into the cycle. And she said, we've got to find some way to break this guy. Change to your less dominant hand. And what comes out, his repressed sexual awakening as a child in a puritanical society.

I love this. The part of him that was most important. pushed down. He was comfortable with the inherent darkness in his brain. What he wasn't comfortable with was who he actually is. His primal urges. I actually do love what you're saying and I feel like that feels to me very much

like Henry Selleck is this artist, right? And he's connected to his piece of work. And he made this thing that became very commercial, right? Right. Like here's this guy he does this dark tortured art. He's falling in love with his sleep study doctor. She's like switch hands. He draws a boner. She's like, this is funny. You should do it as a comic. He does it as a comic. People fucking option the rights and are like, we're giving you 80 episodes on Fox.

Right. The train is moving so fucking fast. We have the dolls already. He's like, wait, slow down. What is any of the? I don't know if this is good. Right. I don't know if this is good for the public.

And they're just like, we're trying to identify the next fat. That's the panic he's in in the five minutes before he gets coma. So basically, like, his trauma is coming out before he can, like, he's like, you're commercializing my trauma and you're, and he's just trying to actually get better to go to be able to live. Well, it's an unprocessed psyche at the very least. Wow, an enthusiastic guess. Right, that's why Julie loves him, but it's also

why I think she rides out the time with Monkeybone inhabited stew for so long because she's like, I've seen him go through weird shit. Do I like this guy? No, but like, he's had cycles of like loss of identity. It came out of a fucking coma. I don't know. Maybe he'll shake this off. Do you think nine-year-old boys

get this? This nine-year-old boy does. I was 12, and I could not have gotten it more. I was like, this is what I've been asking my health teachers to explain to me every week. Those poor teachers. Big mouth before big mouth. Did Griffin talk to you today? Oh, he had a lot of questions.

What'd you do? I gave him a copy of Monkeybone. He'll be buying copies of that for the rest of his life. Now, I guess the joke I couldn't quite put my, I couldn't get, I put my hands around was, Wait a minute. That's the joke I couldn't quite get my hands around. When Whoopi Goldberg makes a South Park joke, is that a joke that South Park is bad?

Or is that a joke? Because it's like... No, it says it's coming out of the same place. And that she likes them, and presumably she has had a similar experience with them. So this whole question of does everyone have a monkey bone, what is downtown? Right. Downtown is the collective subconscious. Okay.

The collective... Carl Young's collective... This is my... I read on the film. Wow, I love this. And so it is largely populated with these pop culture figures, right? Like Joe Campbell, because they exist, like, they now, like, fucking occupy. They live rent-free in our heads, but also just abstract, nightmarish concepts,

like a barbecue pig who serves pig, right? Right. Just fucked up shit. I love it. But also our mascots, our modern gods. Isn't Ganesh down there? You know what I'm saying? It's all in the soup.

So we're just seeing, like, everything that's... Our mascots are modern gods, you said? That's what's not. It's saying, like, the earworms of our culture. In a dead culture. Don't get, don't get on you. I'm in now.

I'm on board. In a dead culture circling the drain. And this is why hypnosis, like, business is bad. People aren't using their fucking brains. They're thinking a Joe Camel because they're looking at billboards, right?

Right. I have to take artists, get them down here. Artists who are able to create a subconscious or unconscious that is so fully, vividly realized that it can become its own. thing, right? So, like, Stephen King gets hit by the van, goes into the coma,

ends up down there, that's when Kujo swaps. Ah, okay. That makes sense. Wow. That makes sense. Attila the Hun, Jack the Ripper, these were creative guys who didn't have an outlet yet. These are out-of-the-box thinkers, Atilla the Hun.

They didn't have an outlet. They were just a little bit on it, and they're trying to draw, and they're like, oh, my hands aren't that good. They fall into a coma. There's a little murderer in there and it's like, let me have a stab at the above ground. And they go up there and they do a bunch of bad shit as a monkey bone is. So you're saying Jack the Ripper

was a good creative doctor who Monkeybone was a murderer and the monkey bone murdered people not Jack the Ripper. Jack the Ripper. A trickster god? Yes. Wow, we've all gone through something. But a trickster god?

The audience just went, oh. A trickster god of Stu Miley's creation. Smiley. Yes. Is it possible to have sex with Christine the car? Great question. Yes.

Thank you. Thank you. Well, you have recontextualized this film for me in a way that I feel like there is a plot here. Yeah. That is, I think, hidden by Christopher Columbus. Yes, yes. I will say one of the things that I wrote a number of times, and I said some version of it earlier, which is there were a number of times in the movie where I was like, oh, this is almost good.

right now. This is starting to be a good movie and I wish it could hold on to it but it would always crumble under the weight of strange choices that didn't seem to add up and without any exposition which they are loath to give

not understanding the framework in which I am operating I kept getting lost but the version of the movie you're giving us is more like a drop dead Fred in which I'm 100% on board I wish, bless you,

I wish that the movie had successfully done. Well, what I'm realizing is Christopher Columbus is the bad guy. He is. Like he is fucking poisoning the culture. He didn't get it at all. And he didn't discover America.

He did not. And he doesn't deserve a parade. Plymouth Rock landed on him. Wait, what? You get it. I'm King, Kong, motherfucker. Do you think Christopher Columbus sailed over on the Mayflower?

The Nina, the Pinta, the Santa Maria, and the Mayflower? You got it. Straight to Plymouth Rock? You got it. Looking for the fountain of youth? He cooks the first turkey on the first Thanksgiving. Another crazy thing I must call out in terms of, like, art imitating love. Stop pointing at us so much, Griffin.

I'm offering. I'm offering. I kind of like it. I like being yelled at it. Darktown, the comic book that Henry Selleck Spark 2 and optioned, only ever had that one single issue. One issue. It was an intended miniseries that was never completed,

much like Monkeybone, where you're like corporate interests are jumping on a piece of IP that's not even completed as an idea and going like, let's just start putting stuff on top. So it's not like it was a Ninja Turtle's like a successful indie comic. One of 12. There was a one of 12. Yes. And only the first issue was. ever release and it's very different and it's just in the idea of artist goes into coma

enters a collective unconscious where his own creations exist. I love it. That's all that the comic gave. Okay. Yeah. Give it up for Griffin. Griffin, Duman. Listen to the blank check podcast.

Their episode on Monkey Bone is available now. Could not have been better. As well as all the other Henry Selleck movies. Check out the George Lucas talk show when you can. A brand new DVD. Listen for Paul and I on an upcoming episode of Blank Check. So, between us. Yeah.

We're going to edit all that out, right? He's making us look bad. We have, obviously, opinion about this. There's a lot of people like Griffin who have a different opinion. It is now time for so. Second opinions. Ladies and gentlemen, Rob from Long Island. Settled down to the plot.

Stu is a cartoonist in a coma, and then he's not. The monkey had sex with his wife. Chris Catan came back to life. A cameo by Harry Knowles. I gave five stars to Monkey Bow. Stephen King is not... The opening scenes and cartoon about a little kid's dick. The casting was great after all.

It starred to actors from Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul. I gave five stars to Monkey Bone. This is my second opinion. Give it up for Rob! Rob! Rob! Rob! Rob! Rob! Rob! Rob! Rob! Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob. All right, now we also have another special guest here tonight, another songwriter from the show. Ladies and gentlemen, Tom, Mick Waters!

It can sing, give dirty looks, and when it's hard, it breaks through books. And when it's hot, it really cooks. It's Brendan's Boner. Watch it run and watch it grow. Jacob's Boner scenario. He even gives himself a blow. It's Brendan's Boner. During Brendan's coma

The monkey runs amok If the monkey was the boner How can he still fuck Always weird Always wrong Got five stars on Amazon Because it's so gargantuan It's Brendan's boner

Give it up for Tom McWhorter Tom and Rob together on the same stage Wow Love it I had a super quick question Is there anybody here in a coma now? Why did you raise your hand? Well, the person up there said I'll put her in a coma.

Yeah. All right. Can I ask you, before we do it, a guy over there who was in a coma, how long were you in a coma for? No way. No way. She said three. I'm not buying it. He said four.

I'm not buying it. We can't just say things. Was it really? It was a nap. It was a nap. Cool. We've all been in that. They're naturals.

Wait, very naturals? Or big naturals? No, not big naturals. Big naturals? Is that what you said? I said natural. Heavy naturals. Real naturals. Real naturals.

Well, that's kind of redundant. Keep this in. Keep this in. Oh, this is the only thing in. 1,923 reviews for Monkey Bone, 84%. 1,925 reviews. 84% are five-star reviews. 84?

84%. Sidney K. writes, my all-time favorite movie, just like Beetlejuice, but better! Five stars. Oh, that's an interesting comparison, too, yeah, that we didn't even mention. For sure, for sure.

Written in 2015. This one from Veronica Owen. Was 2015 before 9-11? Just right. right before. And the title is the Kobayashi report. This is the one movie I love.

It is probably among the top 50 in my list. Five stars. This is the one movie I love. It is probably

among the top 50 in my list. Wow. It's a tough tough bracket to break it to. Okay, this one is from K.M. McKenzie. I love Monkey Bone. I watched this movie as a kid, and I recently saw it on Prime.

I ran so fast to rent this movie, severely underrated Tim Burton comedy horror film from the early 2000s. If you're a fan of Tim Burton, please watch this movie now. you won't be disappointed. Five stars. This is the exact shit

that Henry Selleck is driven crazy by. Right. Absolutely. It was Tim Burton presents a Henry Selleck film, but people think it's Tim Burton. And Coraline, right? Everybody thinks Tim Burton did Coraline too. So, yeah.

So this person didn't get the memo. Also, not a Tim Burton film at all. Not at all. Here's what I want to say. I just got a text. We have a very special person here. to weigh in on Monkey Bone. You guys don't know what Monkey Bone is about?

Doi, first of all, Doi. Monkey Bone is a beautiful film. I know I've never seen it, but I know exactly what it's about. And yeah, Brendan Fraser and Bridget Fonda are two archaeologists who are looking for a specific breed of monkey that hasn't been alive for many, many years

was extinct a long time ago. That monkey is going to hold the key to a virus that's been killing all of us, all of humanity in this present moment. So the two of them have to go find that monkey bone in order to unlock the cure to this very terrible virus that's like really taking us all out. Within that, within that, you know, they find love. They find love, you know. And Brendan Fraser, of course, is he's kind of that hot shot shooting from the hip type archaeologist that we all know, that stock character and, you know, doesn't play by the rules. And Bridget Fonda is a leader in the field and always, you know, she's had many, many breakthroughs. And she knows exactly where to go and how to do. everything so perfectly and scrape off little sand pieces and dig and do all of her archaeology stuff

and it's so hard to work with him so hard to work with him which of course she learned about herself is it's time to loosen up a little bit and what he learns about himself is it's it's time to actually respect a woman for the first time I remember which is never done so it's a really it's it's beautiful they save us, thank God. Thank God. In that search for a monkey bone, they also find what they didn't know

they were looking for, which is love. And there you go. I would love at some point in the future to make June watch Monkeybone and have a rebuttal to herself. And by the way,

just announced The Mummy 4 or The Mummy Right? Is that what it is? Three or four? I can't remember. Yeah. Would you recommend the movie Jason? Yeah, I would recommend this movie. This is a real fever dream.

This is chaos unlimited. And I enjoyed the hell out of it, even though it was deeply frustrating because so often as it was just getting cooking, it would go way off the rails. And that would be disappointing, but don't let that deter you. Absolutely watch Monkeybone.

Hubel? I would recommend this movie to... People in a coma? People in a coma and kids that love drugs. Okay. Yeah. I would recommend this movie because we've watched so many, and whenever I am, like, gobsmacked by a film,

I feel like, I don't know if I like it, love it, or whatever, but I have to acknowledge I was gobsmacked by it, so I'm putting it in a category of a must watch. I find that for me, like, the movies, what we do, like, I was engaged. Whether I was enjoying it or furious, I was never bored. No. I wasn't like, this is a slog. I was like, what the fuck?

And if that's the response, then I think it's working. I agree. I agree. All right, well. I could have watched more of them dangling from the balloon. Like that whole thing. Yeah, I wanted more of that. And if that happens in the Thanksgiving Day parade this year, I will be psyched. I would love it if the Thanksgiving, the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade floats, farted out nightmare juice.

I love that. I would love it. It does feel like for the last year plus we've all been just subsisting on nightmare juice. And that is, that's my question

is, when did Monkeybone become our reality? All right, Jason, you want to promote anything? Sure, I'll promote some stuff. Percy Jackson, season two, coming soon. A man on the inside season, Season 2. Coming soon, I'll be in that, starts November 20th, it all unloads. And then I'm still going to be promoting Taskmaster, Season 19. Watch it on YouTube. That's right. Every episode is up for free. Check it out. So good. So, so, so good. Season 20 airing now is fantastic. Is it as good as 19? Absolutely not.

Hubele. Oh, and All Out on Broadway here in January. What are you doing on Broadway? I'm doing a stage reading of Simon Rich Stories called All Out from January to February here in... On Broadway. Broadway. I'll plug a show that Paul Shear and I do on YouTube called The Dark Web.

Dark Web. You do that every week, super fun. Totally free. Totally free. My book, Joyful Recollections of Trauma. is available. Thank you for buying it. If you bought it, again, let's do it as an audiobook. And if you want to sign copy, you can go on my website and I'll figure it up. It sounds vague, but it's very specific and I don't need to get more into it.

Thank you all for coming out tonight. Great job, New York. You are amazing. Good night. Thanks for coming. Eat shit, New York. That's a wrap on Monkey Bone. Wow. What a awesome episode. A big thank you to Rob. who stepped in at the last minute when June's flight got canceled. Remember that when the FAA went on strike? Well, yep. Rob stepped in and did us a huge, huge solid. Do him a solid by checking out the dark web every week on YouTube. It's completely for free. Also, a shout out to Griffin Newman, who also stepped in, stepped up, and delivered maybe one of the best voices for Monkeybone. He is a defender

of Monkeybone. If they're making a Monkeybone criterion, we got to give it to Griff. Now, Griff, He is the star, the host, the co-host, I should say, of the Blank Check Podcast. Check out Blank Check out Blank Check. If you've not listened to Blank Check, you will love it. I also want to kind of promote this thing that I did. I made a mini documentary with the people from Supper Club who do Chef's Table. We went out to a Taylor Swift parking lot. That's right.

I went out with a microphone. I didn't know what I was going to get. And let me tell you, it was so much fun. It was really something I could never of. expected. So check out Taylor Swift Parking Lot. You can watch that on my YouTube page. You can also watch it on the dark web YouTube. It's 15 minutes.

I'm not asking you to watch it on big TV. You watch it on your phone. I think you'll like it. You don't have to be a Taylor Swift fan. You just have to be somebody who's ever gone to a concert. Or maybe have an interest in going to a concert? I don't know. Also a big shout out to the staff at Town Hall and our tour manager, Beth and

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