How Did This Get Made? - Morbius LIVE! (Classic)

Episode Date: June 16, 2026

It’s morbin’ time! Paul, Jason, and June are LIVE from Chicago to break down the 2022 Jared Leto superhero bomb Morbius. With the help of a nerd in the audience, the crew discuss if Morbius can fly due to his hollow bones or because it’s simply a windy day, if Matt Smith’s character name is Milo or Lucien, if Morbius could use a little help from Beetlejuice, and so much more. Plus, they ask the all-important question, “Would you donate blood for someone to drink?” (Ep. #309 Originally Released 01/05/2023) • Go to hdtgm.com for tour dates, merch, FAQs, and more• Leave us a voicemail at speakpipe.com/hdtgm• Submit your Last Looks theme song to us here• Join the HDTGM conversation on Discord: discord.gg/hdtgm• Buy merch at howdidthisgetmade.dashery.com/• Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of Trauma• Shop our new hat collection at podswag.com• Paul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheer• Paul’s YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheer• Follow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer• Subscribe to Enter The Dark Web w/ Paul & Rob Huebel: youtube.com/@enterthedarkweb• Listen to Unspooled with Paul & Amy Nicholson: unspooledpodcast.com• Listen to The Deep Dive with June & Jessica St. Clair: thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcast• Instagram: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & @junediane• Twitter: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & msjunediane  • Jason is not on social media• Episode transcripts available at how-did-this-get-made.simplecast.com/episodesGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

When Dr. Morbius meets Doctor Who, it's Morbin time! We saw Morbius, so you know what that means. ...in just a big video. ...in Justin to Kelly, or may you see a burl at the Chicago theater, and we are so excited to talk about a movie that changed a generation. Some say it might be the best Marvel affiliated film ever.

Technically not a Marvel film, because I've never seen that weird title above Marvel before. In association, it's like we live next door to Marvel. But if you need to know the plot of Morbius, it's Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Vampire. I don't know.

It's a weird story about a man who doesn't have the right DNA, but vampire bats do. I think we learned a lot of bad things about vampire bats that aren't true. And if you're looking for something scary, don't worry, you won't find it here. Surprisingly, in the hour and 48 minutes of this film, not much happens, but we are going to break it down tonight with my co-host. Please welcome Mr. Jason Manzoukis.

What's up, jerks? To watch Morbius? Question mark? We definitely watched Morbius. That is a true statement. Yesterday you said something that I will say I put into effect today, which is you admitted that you watch some things at a faster speed. 100%. And I was like, yikes, that sounds like a great idea. So I started doing it on Morbius earlier today.

Yeah. Okay. There's so much slow-mo in this movie that I was like, what's going on? Because sometimes it would be like, normal and then sometimes they'd be like and then I tried to mess with it and inadvertently I watched like 15 minutes of the movie

at 0.75. I made it longer. I watched this movie for longer than you did. I don't understand why you can go below the normal speed because... If you really want to drink it in. Occasionally I will make that mistake on an audio book and I'm like, come on, get to the

point. Then I realize it's my mistake. But no, I watch this in real speed. I don't, for how did this get made? I don't fuck around. I watch it in the right aspect ratio. I rent out of theater. I sit there by myself. I do all the research.

No, I watch these all in the real speed. But you know what? I was upset because I love watching Marvel movies. I love those films. And I know I only have a few chances to get June on board with those. and this is where I wasted that but let's hear it from her. Please look at my co-other co-host June Day on Redfield.

Welcome June. Hi, Paul. How are you? I'm well. Thank you. How are you? Good. I love this movie. Wow. That's it. Black it out. Show's over. I enjoyed it quite a bit. It was weird the final episode of the How Did This Get Made podcast

was only one and a half minutes long. Chicago saw historic podcast in the making. June had a take so hot. We had to wrap the podcast. But you know what? I'm happy to hear you say that. And I will say, I don't know if it's the fact that we've been on tour and we've watched so many bad movies. Yeah, we're not well.

Yeah. Oh, I mean, if we're going to compare this to Ugi loves, this one went down easy. So easy. Yes. I do agree with that. So Morbius is a grand film. You know, it spans a quills. quarter of a century. You know, we're following these characters from 25 years ago all the way to

the present. I mean, I just love, Jason as a comic book fan, you know, I think that you probably feel like what? I've been waiting, waiting for Morbius the Living Vampire to enter our cinematic universe. I haven't been. This is a character I don't care about it. Morbius the Living Vampire is like a also-ran Spider-Man kind of good guy, bad guy kind of in that category that I'm not even that familiar with. I mean, he's part daredevil, right? Yes, all the echolocation stuff, all that I can hear everything. He's part Spider-Man, which we kind of address, because he got bit or he has put the blood in, whatever.

And then I would say this movie makes him mostly Batman. Like the fact that he doesn't call him. self Batman, upset me. Like, you are using bats to attack. Don't just use your doctor name. Like, it's his real name. Well, but I would never, I would never go to a doctor whose last name was Morbius. Yeah.

Like that. Never. But see, approaching the movie with no knowledge, because I think I asked you, Paul, at one point, is this Batman? Yeah. And you said. watching, am I watching Batman? Yeah, is this sort of another version, like another kind of take on Batman's origin story? And I don't know much about any of these gentlemen Batman Spider-Rim, but Batman's origin story, like, I do know.

Yeah. So I thought, well, he sees his parents get slaughtered in an alley. Okay, great. Wow, okay. Do you? Yeah. I do know that. I know that.

But I was like, but if you, and I would recommend another viewing, erasing all, of the comics you've read and just approaching it a new? Don't do it like this. Erasing all the comics you've read. And just approaching it like it's a brand new thing. Yeah. And you might enjoy it. Paul, you did enjoy this movie by the way.

I said I enjoyed it. I was surprised. Look, is it a good movie? No. But it is competently made in parts. but also nothing happens. It's a weird thing. It's like a perfect rainy day movie

to watch on like a channel that plays like mostly like two and a half men reruns. Like it's like well that's the only channel they get. What channel is that? And are you watching it? I mean isn't that what TBS is now? I mean TBS is pretty much that.

Yeah. Two and a half men and Morbius? Morbius. I could see it. Morbius posits a world in which you want to know what the cool thing is in 20, 22, bullet time. We did this already. We did. I can see the bullet coming and dodge it. That's the Matrix. Come on. To me, the best thing about Morbius simply was his doctor's outfit, which looked like a very high-class chef outfit. Like, I've never seen a doctor that has like a

button around the neck. He looked like a priest-doctor chef. I was so obsessed. with his lab because they are doing clinical trials there for at least one patient, Anna. Yeah. She's in there. Anna is in there and I guess maybe still currently in a coma? My assumption. My assumption is we'll be in a coma forever. Wait.

It's really tough because I spent the entire movie and the two post-credit scenes thinking when will we take this vial to Anna or wake her up. Well, this is interesting because I forgot a big part of this movie. There is a moment where the king of Sweden gives him an award, right? The Nobel Prize. The Nobel Prize. So he gets the Nobel Prize. Wait, does he get the Nobel Prize?

Yes. He created artificial blood. Of course he did. You know what? I think it was happening so slow on my screen that I wasn't processing. You couldn't help but to miss it at that piece. It is said so quickly because it's just a quick cut to it. Like, no belt prize.

Anyway, we're back in the lab. I'm like, wait, wait. We've just traversed 25 years. Then we go forward to synthetic blood. And then we're back in, like, there's so much going on. But synthetic blood seems like, isn't that healing him? Isn't that working? Well.

But it's for shorter and shorter periods. Only after he got bit by the vampire bat. Oh, I'm sorry. Yes. I think he's looking for a cure, like a full-blown cure. And I don't think synthetic blood is it. So that's like insulin for him. He's like it's not during it.

I have to do something more drastic. The thing that's tricky is I believe, and I'm sure someone's going to shout it out, but I believe that that artificial blood is impacting the world in a huge way, right? Tyrese says later on that it saved him in the battlefield. Guys, Tyrese is in this fucking movie. It's doing great work. And thank God. When Tyrese showed up, I wrote, thank God.

Tyrese is here. And then when Tyrese ceases to be funny, I'm like, oh no, why, Tyrese? I know. Why did they take the funny guy? All I wanted was for him to be his character from Fast and Furious. Yeah, he's like, are you telling

me? You got vampire blood in your body? Like, no, he's just dead serious. But in the trailer, or one of the trailers, there's multiple trailers with extra scenes. Tyrese does take off a jacket and reveal a robotic arm. Okay.

Oh. Okay. The balcony needs to chill out. I know that's hard because you're in the balcony, and you're already most of you pissing your pants. But yes, like Tyrese's character, there are multiple reshoots here. Yeah. So, I feel like they also were trying to show something there,

which makes sense because when Tyrese is chasing Dr. Morbius, and I'll call him by his doctor name, Dr. Morbius. He manages to get... I call him Mike. He manages to get to the top of the building as quick as Morbius. And Morbius did like...

Like, Morbius, like, flew up there, bouncing off walls. And Tyrese got up there real quick with the wind. What happened with the wind? Oh, my gosh. What is that wind? I... In the subway tunnel as well.

I get the subway tunnel because I feel like that's the subway tunnel pushing the wind. forward. I agree with you there. I think that also happens. But it happens on a rooftop. And I, I, I thought it was just a windy day. And, and, and. Once you're up there, I think what was happening was, you know, he's constantly trying to, morbidious, trying to understand what his body can do. Like what his power set is. Yes, what his power set is, because he's adjusting to,

this is where I like the movie. He's adjusting to not only being, you know, out of the prison of his illness, but and being, and feeling good, but actually feeling like more than good, which is superhero level. Now, where I think there was a missed opportunity. He's feeling morbin good. What do you say? He's feeling morbin good. I think he, I thought where we were going is that he was going to. So you're saying more been good?

Morbin good. Got it. Got it. I wish we had seen him think he was a superhero or had superpowers before he actually did. Because he spent his life afflicted by a very serious illness. I see. So you would have, wait, thought he had superpowers or just was healthy? Superpowers. Well, he doesn't have a barometer of what it feels like to be healthy ever. That's what I'm saying. I would have loved it if we had a scene where he's like, I did it.

I'm healthy. I live in the real world before he turns into like a blood-sucking vampire and murders a bunch of people. Either way, I just think that was such a... Because the heart of the story

I actually think is really compelling, they just didn't really do anything with it. You know, but I think what was happening with the wind, anyway, to go back to the wind on the rooftop, I think what was happening was that it was simply just a windy day.

And we were watching... A man was super... powers, like, brace himself to not get thrown off of the lines? I think what it is. And I think this is what it is, but I don't think it's successful or I think it's too confusing. I think what it is is he now, one of the elements of his power set now is that he can fly. And he yet doesn't know it, but his body is processing air currents everywhere. Well, can I tell you why?

So that, yeah, so that he can fly because bats are blind and they fly off of the air. is what I'm assuming. I thought Oh. I thought that when he has this blood, he gets hollow bones. Sorry, Paul. We didn't get that.

Can you repeat it? I'm so sorry. What now? I believe, and scientists in the audience, I know there's a lot, back me up. I believe that vampire. You think scientists are in the balcony? On a Sunday night?

If you're a scientist and you're in the balcony, you're not a scientist. I believe that vampire bats or bats in general have hollow bones. Am I right? And birds. Birds have hollow bones. Same difference.

Well, bird man is in this. Yes. Yeah. Wait, so you thought that the wind was because his bones were now hollow? Yeah, because he's lighter. Oh, but I, well, then we're kind of saying the same thing because I don't think it's that he's, wouldn't it have been amazing if he gets bitten by the vampire

and of all the transformations you see, you watch the marrow get sucked out of all of his bones? That's what's trailing him whenever he jumps up, that's bone marrow. Bone marrow. No, I think it's his, I think he is, oh, look,

because bat bones are hollow, allowing them to be light enough to fly, they're unable to produce the B cells needed for immune function in their bone marrow, like other mammals. Oh, so they're unable to combat viruses. Yes. Okay, so now I have a new set of problems.

Without that marrow, baby, they are prone to viruses. This guy is riddled with virus. No, my thing is, I think the first time on the rooftop it happens, the wind is blowing. It's just the wind, but they're visualizing it because he's like, what the fuck is this wind? The same way they're trying to visualize, I can hear across town. They're trying to visualize all of these

bat specifics, these bat senses. I also think that his hearing is bullshit because he seems to selectively cancel out the entire city. Unless it's like, oh, I can hear down the hall in this one minute. Like, the nurse is killed. What happened to the nurse? Oh, yeah.

Oh, shit, what happened? Like, you would think he couldn't sleep because the noise would be like constant. And he never, nothing. The thing that happens that we, what's wonderful about daredevil's powers when he gets them as a child is that when he loses his sight and all of his other senses, because he gets toxic waste dumped on him, and all of his other senses heightened, he's almost driven insane by the amount of input he's now getting. He can hear, it's a cacophony of sounds that he cannot control.

We never see Morbius struggle with his body. He is like, wait, I can fly, I can do anything, I'm awesome, I'm awesome, I'm in. immediately incredible at this. Done. I'm Leto. Get to work. You need me to be jacked Leto? Okay, I need to be skinny in one scene, and then I'm full-blown jacked leto. He carried me around set, but I'm jacked. I loved it.

He literally plays one game of handball, just one, and he's got it, figured it out, got my powers down. He nails it right after that. He's not even playing a game. He's just tossing a ball. Yeah. And he's like, can I do this? Yep. I guess I'm a fucking cool-ass person. vampire, but not the kind that's not cool with the sun. Well, the big issue that I had in the beginning was his love interest, Martine. You know, she comes in and it feels like she's catching him in the act.

She's like, what are you doing? And then proceeds to knock on a giant tube in the middle of his office full of bats. He's not hiding the bat work. Like, she presents like, I know you're working. working on some print secretive. Ting, ting, ting, ting. Blah, la, la. You know what there should have been?

There should have been an administrator. Somebody who is like, I don't like these bats in here. I don't like what you're up to. I don't like your long hair. I don't like your too trimmed, too dark beard. For someone your age, there's definitely gray in there. You are not a doctor, sir. You are Jared Leto.

I will say this. Jared Leto did say he did not have to do method acting for this role because, and this is a true quote, Dr. Morbius and him share a similar personality. Okay, that's really interesting because one of the reasons why I really love this movie, obviously is because of Jared Leto,

but also I found him to be so watchable and easy on spring. I loved him. I just loved him. I mean, I thought Jared Leder was fine. But to me, Matt Smith is absolutely devouring this movie. This is the performance. Matt Smith is where I'm at.

Okay, hold on one second. Give me an entire movie about Matt Smith. No. Statt. That's a medical term. Hold on. All you Dr. Hoon nerds, take that out of the equation.

Yeah, Dr. Hoo! Yay! He just started watching it. I just started telling Christopher Eckleston. Matt Smith has no reason. He has nothing.

Why does he all of a sudden be like, yeah, let's fucking kill everybody. Like, the synthetic blood is working for him, and he's like, fuck it. Now I want to eat people. Okay. Like, he has no... He's like, yeah, we can cover up dead bodies.

That's easy. Because I think what the movie is, what the movie is going for or one of one one thing that's coming through is how we treat disabled people okay people who are i'm serious and so i did i did feel like oh i i do understand that the world has not been set up or adjustments have not been made for someone like matt smith to live with his illness successfully in the world we see him get bullied and beat up as a child and he's just a hiring bodyguards because he's like ripping off the mob.

Yes, but one of his bodyguards also refers to Dr. Morbius as a cripple when he's letting him into Matt Smith's apartment. Okay. So I do think what's happening to Matt Smith is that he can no longer take being disabled in America. Got it. And so he wants to eat them and drink their... Or in the world. Or in the world. Because I'm pretty sure he's first treated in Greece. And I was like, hey, I wrote, hang on. Is anybody Greek in... Is somebody in this movie supposed to be Greek? Wait, am I?

Is Jared Harris supposed to be Greek? Is the clinic Greek? Is Morbius Greek? Is anybody supposed to be Greek? Why is this... Isn't Morbius a Greek name? Yes, of course. Vimitri Morbius.

Hey, Morbius. We vacation. Degaris, Morbius. Galac is he? I think it was during a time where it was like Mediterranean Air. can cure anything. I feel like Jared Leto is like, I want to go to Greece

for this. But just for one scene. Here's my question, though, and I'm asking very honestly, because the movie leaves a lot to the viewer to connect dots. But Matt Smith is doing well with the synthetic blood.

Well, listen, even though they're surviving on the synthetic blood, there's nothing like the red stuff. Also... You know, we know that. There's nothing like that red stuff. He wants to eat dinner at a red sauce place, if you know what I mean. Here's the thing, and we understand why, and I

think that for Jared letter from Morbius, he is doggedly pursuing a cure. He is chasing, he is a scientist, he is a doctor, he is chasing a cure. Matt Smith's want is to dance.

He cannot dance. You know what he's not doing with synthetic blood? Dancing. The guy needs to Did move! I mean, they really do recreate that scene from Spider-Man 3 with Toby McGuire there.

That's true. I just, I wish we, I wish we knew more about Anna's parents. And just what kind of waivers they had to sign to get her treatment and to get her a spot in this clinical trial

at New Horizons? Do you think Anna's parents were ever like by her bedside like, oh, Anna, okay, okay. And then we're like, okay, we're leaving now. Walk past giant plexiglass full of bats. Well, like that was... Do you think they're ever like, what is this treatment? Should we take her to a regular hospital?

By the way, even if... Even if they had never seen the bats, the lighting in that facility. Okay. Nah. Okay, not only the lighting in the facility. The lighting in the facility is on the same timer system as episode one of Germo del Toro. cabinet of curiosities, the Tim Blake Nelson episode, where that lighting, that timer-based lighting,

is in a storage facility. This is a high-tech hospital. The nursey is killed and is dead on the floor all night into the next day. Well, to me, I thought, to me, I thought it was one of those lights. Like, you know, if you stay still in the bathroom too long, the light will go off and you'll be like, wave your hand. Like, but...

Oh, those are the worst. I hate it. When you get to a certain age and you realize, oh, no, I now shit longer than the movement timer. This is not good. I'm old. But how is there still some left? I thought that it was on movement. Just when I thought I was out, it pulls me back in.

Okay. But I thought it was on movement lights, but it wasn't because she runs to the end of the hall. and then there's a lone light switch that turns on all the lights. It's like, wait, you... Those movement lights. I actually, I thought that I enjoyed that sequence. I thought it was very scary. It's a great device,

and it is used so much better in the Guillermo del Toro thing. But I will say this, once again, the patient, Anna, literally is attached to the laboratory. Like, it does feel like what other care is she getting there? It seems like people are going home. That's why I want to know what the situation is,

because if you're part of a clinical trial, I do think she needs to be admitted to a hospital. And I guess the, I mean, to me, a lab is a lab, and the hospital is a hospital. And those are two different things. Yeah, I know. I know. He puts her into a, the last we see, he's like, put her into a coma.

I have a question. I have a question. Never wakes her up. Is some things, and some of this might just be, the movie doesn't answer these questions, but, and some of it might be because I watched it on a bunch of various speeds. Is Jared, so Jared Harris is running the Greek clinic, where boy Morbius meets boy Matt Smith.

Okay. Yes. He then calls him Milo for the rest of the movie. Isn't his name Lucian? Yes. Who, right? Yes. So his name is Lucian.

It's just this thing where Morbius calls everybody Milo, and he's like, you don't have an identity except for the one I give you your new Milo. But he also then says, I don't even remember the first Milo. So it's like, it's not even in like, oh, I love that Milo and he was taking away. He's like, I don't even remember. I assume that you two would know the answers to this. I think he's just saying, I think he's just saying, I think he's just saying, you know, just another Milo that'll die soon. Who cares? This movie's about me, Morbius, the living vampire.

And, oh wait, now because I can like, now because I fixed your dialysis machine or whatever the machine was with a ballpoint pen, who is he? Forge? That's for the comic book nerds! But by the way... Forge can make anything. He's a machinist. He can build anything out of anything. He's Morbius. the same? What is his mutant power? When Morbius fixes that

with a pen spring, Jared Harris is like you're smart, I'm going to send you to science school. He said, well, here's my question. He says there is a school in New York for gifted youngsters which sounds a lot like

Xavier Academy to me. And I was like, are these motherfuckers trying to introduce the X-Men in Morbius? Well, I will straight up kill myself if this is how this happens. Again, I didn't take any of this baggage

into my viewing. Of course. And I just enjoyed it. But I do feel like at one point, look, he calls everybody Milo. But then when he saves Lucian's life, you would think he goes, I'm not going to call you Milo anymore.

I'm going to call you Lucian. And then he doesn't. And then so much so that later in the movie, he's like, I got to save Milo. It's like, you don't even know his name. Everybody calls him Milo. I know. Even, um, even, um, even, he calls himself Milo.

And, and other people call him Bix from andor calls him Milo. Everybody calls him. Everybody, his, I swear to God, I think Matt Smith's character legally changes his name to Milo. Just because Jared Letto is like, that's who you are. That's it. I run the cult. You're Milo. By the way, uh, speaking of weird things in this movie, and we'll get to a lot of them,

There was nothing more unsexy than being off the coast of Long Island. Now, I am a Long Island native. As am I. But when they go international... When they say international waters, I'm thinking something very exotic. Was not expecting on island. Not 13 miles off the coast of Montauk. Like...

I'm like, you could for sure see a strip mall from there. And it was like... International water... I was like, is Don DeMillo here? What's going on? Morbius loves his outlet mall shopping. He's like, well, I'll hit the outlets, and then we'll get on an international. And then we're going to go to Montauk, and then we're going to hang out with Billy Joel.

You know who I felt really badly for? Well, Anna, of course, but also. We got to put her in a coma. I felt really bad for that crew on that ship, on that cargo ship. The mercenaries? Multiple time people tell you, don't worry about that. them. Like, they're like, I don't care about those guys. Are we sure they all deserved to die? Well, I mean, the movie is trying to tell us they are, but here's my question is, why did he even

need mercenaries? Just charter a boat and build a lab in it. Why do you need gun-toating merciless? I got another question for you. I think it's just so they can be visually bad guys, so you're okay with him killing that. Well, here's my other question for you. Why do they need to be in international waters? Like, why do they need to be on the water? Because he tells Milo it's pretty, it's full-blown illegal what I'm going to do. So I can only do it in international waters. Yeah, it's like the FDA, Fauci's not approving this type of experiment.

Is this the bat that brought COVID to the states, Morbius? Yes. He's like, the first scene takes place at a wet market. Now, I do love when Morbius is recording his own journal. He goes, I have echo location. That's bat radar for those uninitiated. You fucking dope. It's your own.

Get your own journal. Okay, that made me think, is somebody, because to your point, Jason, there doesn't seem to be any, like, admin infrastructure at New Horizons. So I was like, I know. Where's Cuddy from House being like, you can't do this, you're out of control? Right, but I was like, I know Martin's not transcribing those notes from the tape. So is Jared Leto transcribing his own notes? I feel like he's doing voice to text.

Who? Like, is Anna? Like, is she, is this treatment covered by, like, her PPO? Like, what? I thought you were going to say, is it like a work study? No, I'm like, I'm like, what is, is we're Jared? What I think is true is, I believed that Jared Letto is operating out of a hospital. And I think he is not.

I think he's operating out of like... Oh, Jason. That is not a hospital. No, that's a lab. It's just a lab in like some warehouse that's been converted. Right. Okay. I have issues with the labs because at one point a guy is forging $100 bills.

Like, that's my new science lab. How? He walks in, he walks into a lab. He just overhears with his echolocation. Two guys trying to pass off counterfeit 100s. And they're like, all right, we got to get back to the lab. He follows them to their lab where they're manufacturing money. and he tweaks two, three things and is like, yep,

now I can do my blood experiments on this. It's a printing press. He has a print. He has a machine that pinkos, and he takes out like the ink cartridge. It's like, now it's a blood machine. Now I have my blood. It is absolutely insane that he's,

and it's all, it's not even a time jump. I could understand. He gets rid of the guys who are counting. fit and he says, okay, this is raw materials I can use, time jump, now he's got it set up. No, immediately, he's like, screw, screw, screw, screw, screw, screw, screw, screw, perfect. And the things like spinning around. They were making money.

It's like, it might as well have been, this movie is nonsense. I have such an issue with the lack of refrigeration for all this blood. Oh my God. Because unless he has like a Yeti backpack, the backpack that he throws the blood in does not look. We've seen the kind of lab he needs to make it work. Yeah, this is not bad. Yeah. It seems like a, I mean, where is the blood?

I mean, also, the amount of underground layers, like, they're going deep. I mean, this is a weird question. I did love that the criminals referred to their counterfeit space as a lab. I was like, wow, they bring a certain level of professionalism to their work. As they're trying to pass off fake 100s at the diner. Also, more than. all over the news, all over the daily bugle. Jay Jonah Jameson is blowing him up.

By the way, shot scenes for this movie, Jay Jonah Jameson. Oh, really? Yes, and then they cut them. That's heartbreaking. That's heartbreaking. Maybe because they didn't want to reveal that... Well, because there are issues with DMC.

There's a lot of mistakes. But he's on the cover of the paper, blah, blah, blah. But he's also not hiding out at all. He's hoodless, looking exactly like his incredibly identifiable self, with Bix from Andor in a diner being like, well, I'm a vampire now. But not that kind of vampire.

Do do, do, do. My issue was, how did he know that he couldn't have animal blood? He's like, I have a thirst for human blood. You didn't even try animal blood. Well, he's also, in his old place, in his old lab, there appears to be there's the blue synthetic blood, then there's row after row of what looks like red human blood. Couldn't he have drank that?

that for weeks? Well, no, I think only for hours. Well, it's going down six hours, four hours, and 22 minutes. But isn't that only for the synthetic? Yeah. Like, what, he takes? He doesn't take any of the red blood. He's grabbing the blue blood like crazy.

He also doesn't seem to really suck it out. Like, he seems to just like take a slug of the blood. Like, I want to see him like... A blood slug? Like, I really want... I want, like, when he's in the jail cell... Ooh, I'd like to take a blood slug from you. Because he's like...

He's like, I just feel like he's just like, hey, you're leaving a lot of blood in there. If I'm needing human blood, I'm going to suck that blood bag dry. I'm just gonna, because it's like, when will I get the next batch? Well, the other thing is because he doesn't seem to have, like, obviously there are vampiric urges that he has. Like when she cuts her hand, when she cuts her, when the cat, is it the cat scratches or whatever? Yeah. She gets a cut and he can, like, it activates him, right? but he also doesn't attack

he only attacks people he's only out of control rather in on the boat so why isn't he just getting people to donate blood to him to drink that seems like he must have he's a Nobel Prize winning doctor he has access to blood

and by the way why are people so mad that he's like at one point when he's on the cover like I knew that guy's a fucking freak like really the Nobel Prize scientist to invent synthetic blood, do you have an issue with newspaper vendor? I mean, I do think it's a hard sell because I think it's wonderful to donate blood. I try to donate blood. But it's like, I don't know that I want to donate blood for someone to drink.

Well, I would, here's what I would happily drink blood. I would rather, sorry. That's the shirt. Freudian slip. I'm a vampire. Guys, I've been cast in Morbi as 2 still morbid. No, I would happily give my blood for someone to drink so that they wouldn't pray on human beings. Can I have it?

Yes. I would, June, pint after pints for you. Absolutely. My favorite part in the, so the part where he does wild out, the first time he's transformed into a vampire, and he's on the ceiling in the boat, in his cage, and then they open it and he comes down, and he kills all the mercenaries, right? Then he wakes up out of it like, oh, whoa, whoa, and he's like, what happened here? Amnesia.

So he goes and he checks all the security footage, right? Of everything, he's watching the security cam footage of everything we just saw and vomits. Even Morbius doesn't like the movie Morbius. Even Morbius is watching the scenes we watched and is like, Blah, blah, this is not good. I want to just get into Tyrese's his character because these two cops and I love and I love Al Madrigal

like and he's very funny in it and he's great but I know it's a movie convention but I need to call out that they never have talked before they get to the crime scene. They are stone cold silent and then they get there and it's like information depth like it seems like Tyree's like don't tell me anything until I'm standing exactly

in the center of it. They also don't have a... I mean, I'm assuming they are long-term partners. They have no dynamic between them. Nope. And they seem to also work San Francisco for Venom connecting the weirdo Sony Marvel Universe. Do you think they worked San Francisco

or they just think this might be connected to the thing that happened in San Francisco, aka Venom? Oh, I thought like they were setting Tyrese up to be like a special, investigator, which was confusing. Because when he has that earpiece, is he just getting the APB

wire and is like, he's like a, I think that's just for the rest of the I think, I mean, is he getting every call because that one calls. I want to ask a nerd here, is there a nerd who can, a singular person who can tell us, is Tyrese playing a character from comics

that we should know? Who? Okay, so he is playing a vampire hunter, not blade, who helped Morbius Bill Dracula. Should give it up for this

heroic Chicago native. Guys, and well done, everybody, that you allowed him to speak without everybody being like, I know, I know! Then I want to ask, why does Morbius refer to himself as Venom?

Is he not, is he Venom? That's a joke. I think that's a misdirect. It's a joke because, by the way, I don't understand comedy. All right, when you watch the trailer, Okay, so when you watch the trailer, one of the moments in the trailer is like,

who are you? And he's like, I'm Venom. And then he goes, That's in the trailer? Yes, and he goes, just joking, I'm Dr. Morbius. That's in the trailer. They just left it here in the movie as I'm Venom. And I think, does he maybe say I'm joking to?

No. I didn't hear that. I thought he was saying that as a way to be like, I'm, I don't, like throw people off the center or, you know, like, you know, like, to be like, I'm not even going to identify myself. So I'm just going to say I'm this other character that has been causing trouble in the same world. Okay. So this is the line, this is the line as it was written. Um, he goes, I'm venom. And he goes, just kidding. It's Dr. Morbius at your service. And actually I misquoted it. He says, at your service. Well, I miss quoted it. It says, I'm just kidding.

it's Dr. Michael Morbius at your service. I'm sorry, I have it here, and it's actually at your cervix. And it's like a joke. He's like making a joke. Dr. Michael Morbius at your cervix. I will say, I understand that this movie falls very weirdly in the MCU. In the MCU, I don't know where this falls because there are elements of, you know, Spider-Man,

there's, like, we're referencing X-Men, there's a lot of stuff going on. But I will say the one thing that doesn't seem incredibly established in this universe, as is, are superheroes. Right? Like, it doesn't seem like there's a lot of superheroes, but the lack of reaction to vampires seems suspect.

Like, take a look at this. This is a clip two. This is a new. news anchor just talking about a vampire attack. Breaking news on the Lower East Side where three people have been killed. Authorities have confirmed the discovery of three new bodies outside a bar popular with Wall Street traders and like the victims before them, they were completely drained of their blood.

Erning the killer, the moniker vampire murderer. The prime suspect, renowned scientist, Dr. Michael Morbius, remains at large. So they're not saying it is, they're saying the moniker, the vampire killer. So they're saying because the bodies are drained of blood, the serial killer must be draining their blood, not that there is an actual vampire on the loose. Well, then they go, it's a copycat vampire murderer, but still, draining of blood.

I'm going to put some more gravitas on that news report. I would think so. Also, because the nurse, who's, I think, already been killed at this point, only has two fang marks. Yeah. There are no other wounds. So that's concerning.

Oh, yeah. You know, that's going to raise some eyebrows. The movie wants to have it both ways. The movie wants for people to be like, yeah, we live in a world where crazy shit happens. I.e., there's a Spider-Man, there's a Thanos, there's, we live in like the, we're a, we are in the MCU technically sort of. Are we nerd? Yes. Because I can answer this nerd a little bit.

and you can back me up. The illusion at the end when Michael Keaton appears is that he was also displaced from his universe when Dr. Strange pulled all the Spider-Men together. So that wasn't Batman? No.

But... No reason why you should understand this. You have every right to think that. Yes. Because Michael Keaton has played both Batman, but also the Spider-Man villain The Vulture. And Birdman.

And Birdman. And he is not... And Beetlejuice. He is not... In this movie, he's Beetlejuice. He's not reprising his role as Birdman in this movie. What if Morbius was like, fuck, I'm into trouble. Beetlejuice, beetle juice, beetle juice,

beetle juice. Hey, hey, hey there, Morbius. Hey, what's going on? How can a hell? Take a shit. Gotta drink that blood. So I... That's my audition for the remake of Beetlejuice.

By the way, there's a great line for Beetlejuice. That your cervix. Yes. See? I am now writing a Beetlejuice reboot. Okay. But yes, he's...

That character is the Spider-Man vulture villain who appears at the end of the movie. That is... And so he is tied. loosely because the same little thing happens in the skyline of New York that happens when Dr. Strange is... And it's also why

Venom, at the end of Venom, there is a similar multiversal displacement of people. And again, I will say it, like I said at the beginning, this is not a Marvel movie. It says in association with Marvel. It really, it's like Feigey's like, oh, I really don't want you to take

Spider-Man, but legally I can't say no, okay. Hey, yay. It's like, like, to see a sinister six film under this... Oh God, it would be so upset. Why would we destroy it? Let me ask you a question, cat people. Do you shake a litter box and cat come?

Right, as though, like, the food's in there. Yeah. You're kitty kitty. I don't, like, it's like, why would the cat come running to its toilet? Wait, wait. when you were potty training your children, didn't you do the handle

to create a Pavlovian response that is like, oh, I guess it's time to shit, so let's do this. Now, Paul and Jason, I have an announcement. Yes, okay. I have to go more right now. It's 825. Yes.

I have a 956 flight out of Chicago. So I am, I didn't want to, we didn't want to reveal too early. I'm leaving the show a bit early because I know, and I'm so upset about it. I can't believe it. It's horrifying. But let me tell you this. I have to get a child ready in a pig Minecraft costume tomorrow. And as hard, thank you.

As hard as it is to leave here to go do that, I truly must go. And when we planned this, we didn't want to have to reschedule Chicago again. And we knew it was the night before Halloween. I'm so sorry to leave. I love you all. I got a morb. I got a morb. Give it up for Jew.

I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. So yes. So the show is going to continue. We have a lot more to get through. I will say this. Before, maybe I was a little hard on Matt Smith. I did like the bromance that they had.

Like when they were walking around, I was like, oh, now you're quoting the notebook to me. Like, you know, I felt like they, I like they're fine. No, no, I like them as friends. I like them as friends. And if anything, I was, like, wanted more, I guess I wanted to understand more, like, why they were kind of brothers, you know? It really didn't make sense to me that Matt Smith was so connected to him still because

kid Jared Letto leaves to go and do his whatever he becomes a, you know, a Nobel winning, blah, blah, and Matt Smith just seems to still be like around. Can I ask another question about this? Is that house that they're living in that estate? In Greece? In Greece? Yeah. Is that all full of kids? with the exact same disease?

Is it like a leper colony for that disease? And if so, why is he so committed to this one kid when you would imagine there's floors and floors of them? Unclear. And not only that, but if we're meant to believe the kid Morbius's lines, multiple kids are just dying.

Like, just expiring. So he's taken on. There's an element of this movie, which could have been, like, I've watched so many people, die, that I'm not going to attach myself to you, Lucian. I'm going to call you Milo. You are a disposable person.

But then he connects with him. He takes care of him. He becomes an older brother to him or whatever. But no, that's not what happens. The very next moment, Jared Harris is like, we're sending you out of here. You're too smart. And he's like, see you later. And by the way, look. And then the kid gets his ass kicked.

But then later they're like, you're my brother. Here's what I, this is why I call bullshit on it. Because 25 years ago, there was no internet. How was he keeping in touch with him? I just feel like I have a lot of friends I would like to see from the sixth grade. Oragami notes. The only way you can get in touch. That's how they find him.

We found one of these on the boat. Shit. Like it was like, all right, I guess. Oh, my gosh. The fact that he flies like a squirrel jumper, is that what it's called? Like a flying squirrel suit? Yeah, that's what he looks like. That's what he looks like.

It looks like he's in a flying squirrel suit. It doesn't look cool. And I don't understand why he would need to fly when he can just jump with the same amount of like... Why not just let him fly? Why not just let him just or turn into a... Or maybe his powers don't. Maybe nerd?

Does he not turn into a bat? No, thank you. Does he have control of bats? Oh, why doesn't Matt... Okay, Matt Smith is attacked by bats and he's like bats, because I'm the... Bat's brother, not Batman, but I'm the bat brother, but then the

bats hate Matt Smith. Why isn't Matt Smith having the exact same experience as Morbius? With the bats, with flying, with the rest. Like Morbius the living vampire seems to have, what? I think Matt Smith can fly. When they're in that subway fight scene, which

I mean... There are so many people. That's the thing. There are so many people in the movie in the subway tunnel, in the subway station on the city streets that are watching this fight happening and everybody's like oh no look out it's

it's so casual they're like walking through the subway tunnel and they're like flying up and around it's like and it's like testament to New Yorkers who are just like gotta go to work who cares got to go got to go got to go go go go go what two living vampires fighting around me got to go to work doesn't matter

I mean I would say that the thing that bums me out the most about this movie is that Matt Smith just wears a nice suit all the time. And, yeah, go ahead. He looks like he doesn't take on a real different personality. He just is like, well, I'll wear a button-down church. Can I ask the nerd a question?

Okay, and you know what? Nerd, what's your name? Michael. Michael. Michael the nerd. Are you Michael Morbius? You have to answer truthfully. He's at your service.

No, my question for you, Michael. is is Matt Smith playing a character from the Marvel universe? A mashup, right? Okay, so he's not, like, it's not a direct one-to-one realm. He's not a villain in the Marvel universe. Thank you, that's all I wanted to know. So much so that Matt Smith said this. It's Morbin time?

Because I was somewhat confused with my character's history as he wasn't aware how Milo tied into the Hunger's greatest legacy and origins from the comics, since it wasn't clarified in the script, many reports came from the set that he was like, his character was named Locious Crown, but then they changed it to Milo

because they had to reshoot the movie. They also thought that that character of Locius was a character in the film or in the comics that they decided to change at the last minute. Anyway, they didn't keep the character's name. Oh, is that why they changed it from Lucian to Milo? Because it was based on a character name. Well, his name was, I guess, Loxius, L-O-X-I-A-S-Crow.

Then they changed it to Lucian Crown, and then Milo. So three name changes for one script. And none of it helps clarify who the character is at all. And it seems to me, according to Matt Smith, no one told him, like, hey, in the comics, you are this character. And what was, I think, one of the movie's most egregious problems was, other than just kind of being mad at the people who, at a world that kind of bullied him or tormented him or didn't make his life easy, he's just

going to chomp everybody. In realistic sense, as a villain, as a villain in a superhero story, because that's, even though it's a vampire story, this is ultimately a superhero story, there is no clear villain's motive. He doesn't want to do anything. but dance. And kill people. And he'll learn with girls. And kill people. He wants to kill people. But he only seems to kill people when it's like presented when he's when he's slighted or when somebody.

But by the way, he's an attractive man at a bar and he starts hitting on some other guy's girlfriend. He's like, hey, that's my girlfriend. And he's like, I'll kill you. And then does. And then does. Like that guy, he might be a dick, but it was his girlfriend. All he said was like, her drinks are spoken for. Also, when he kills the nurse in, is it New Horizons?

Is it Horizons? When he kills the nurse at Horizons, like, what a dick move to be like, hey, this woman that you, my brother, Michael Morbius, Nobel Prize winner, this, doctor, Michael Morbius at your cervix, that this, that you, this person that you work with intimately, her life matters nothing to me, I'm going to chomp her and drain her of all the blood. He is a dick, but I don't know why. And my problem was, I don't know what his, he has no plan, he has no, he has no want. He has, other than to dance.

He seems like he could live a fine life, but now that he's a vampire, he's like, fuck it, I'll be evil. And we see the ultimate evil when he rips down the warning tape. When he leaves the lab, ooh, the villain, warning tape doesn't mean anything to me. I loved, I loved when he, when he, when he. When he pretends to be the lawyer to visit Jared Letto in prison. Jared Leto, already is in prison. Boom. He's like in there, and he's like, ah, it leaves him some blood.

And then leaves his cane behind. And then he's like walking out of the prison like, doop-do-do-do-do-do-do-do. Oh, no. It's like a Kaiser-Sose thing, but for no one. Yeah. Like because... It's for the camera. That's what I mean.

It's for the camera. The movie... Because he's like this. He's like, lamb. lamp bat oh say that hey hey no more lamp but who was the fake limp for and why would they let him into the cell

and then why would they let him give him stuff how do Tyrese and Al Madrigal not know that Matt Smith has visited him in jail why don't they know about him why they find out so late that there's another vampire? Why do they even arrest him it's like he gets in jail to get immediately out like he fucking morbs

in the interrogation Why not Morb? Yeah, why not? Yes, they don't even, they are so unimpressed by the fact that they're in the presence of a vampire. True. Like, they are like, huh. Okay, we're going to come back to this. I also, and again, this movie is not sure about powers or anything,

because there is also a moment when Dr. Michael Morbius is trying to go to see Jared Harris. He's like, come, I'm wounded. Oh, man. Jared Harris. I think this is true, and I didn't look it up. Jared Harris dies grisly deaths in every role he has. He's never survived to the end of a movie or TV show, period. Oh, Michael, come to the apartment.

Why? Just tell me now, what's going on? I tried to talk to Milo. I know his name is Lucius, but you've decided to call him Milo, and we're all under your thrall. When you were a bully, you renamed him, and we all went with it. Even me, an adult, even me, an adult, even though I've not aged in 25 years. And you are now Jared Leto, and we are essentially the same age. There is a, so when he goes to visit dying Jared Harris, Morbius.

He is the same. Morbius is not changed. And Morbius is like this, like creep sidestepping. It's like, dude, if you have echolocation, you know what's in the fucking room. You don't need to be like, ooh, I don't know. So I'm going to jump out at me? His powers are so fickle because like when Matt Smith has, what's Bix from Andor's name in the movie? Martine.

Martin. When he's got Martin and he's like, he'll come for you or whatever. He's kind of trying to get to Martine to lure Morbius to him. And Morbius can hear everything. can hear everything up until the point where he kills Martin? Yep. And I was like, why didn't you go rescue her? He listens to the whole thing happened. Maybe it won't happen. And look how Jared Leto's face is like, I wonder what's going to happen

next. But then he makes her into a vampire. Do we get a post-credit scene with her? Nope. Is that what happens? Does she become a vampire? B'am. Is that, Michael the nerd, is she playing a vampire character? Yes. Who? She's basically Celine. Okay, so she's

the energy vampire from the X-Men. Great, okay, great. I love that. Thank you. I liked her performance. And by the way, give it up for Michael.

You need to do. Michael doing heroic work all so long. Everybody, give him a pat on the back on the way out. Don't touch him, though. Don't touch anybody. Don't touch each other.

I will say this. I like. her performance. I thought the love story was bullshit, but when he's, they are just, he's a vampire. She's freaked out. They don't know what's going on. They go up to the roof. He goes, close

your eyes and then kisses her. I didn't think that was cool. I thought when he goes, hey, I wasn't going to morbi out on you. And she's like, I thought it was romantic. Did you? This man turned into a fucking preacher and you're like, ooh, cool. I thought they were going to

stone cold fridge her in a way that I was like, wait, are they killing her now? Just to motivate him to get back at Matt Smith? And I didn't like that. But then they instead just turn her into a vampire, I guess. Well, they needed something to activate Matt Smith and Dr. Morbius to fall through the earth? Yeah. They fight into the center of the earth?

Are they falling down the middle of a building? I'm so confused. It was like I was watching the end of Transformers 1. And is it just so that they can, is it just. Is it just so that they can get to a level where there are bats? Also, Morbius seems to have, obviously, has a relationship with bats, right? We get that. Vampire bats, where does he go at the beginning?

Where is he in the caverns at the beginning? Okay, hold on a second. Michael, where does he go in the beginning? Costa Rica. Costa Rica. He's in Costa Rica studying vampire bats. Do we think there are vampire bats in New York City? No, these are just some basic ass bats.

This is like Ant Man getting the ants to play the drums. But any ants? Any ants can do that. Ant Man has those powers. He could get everybody doing it off. So he can control any bat anywhere. No, no, no. The bats are his friends.

He's like, guys, help, guys. I'm being captured. And then the bats are, oh, shit, our brother. And they all... I guess you're right. I guess you're right. But then, boy, would I like it if he could turn into a bat. Or something.

Well, he's kind of flying. I mean, his bones are hollow. We know that. Why didn't he... Why? Why? Why? The idea that you thought that he gets shot up in the stuff.

Hollow bones. He gets hollow bones is incredible. So do you think Superman's bones are hollow? No. He's not a bat. So it's not just anybody who can fly has hollow bones. Only that he's a bat, he has hollow bones. Got it.

Or a bird, but he's not a bird man. And birdman in the movie is not an actual career. Do you think Hawkman, D.C. Justice League member, Hawkman and Hot Girl, do they have hollow bones? No, because their planet, they don't have hollow bones. Okay. Well, okay, so this is the one thing that Martine said about her character, which I thought was odd.

She said she based it on AOC, which I love AOC, great, but it's also a weird. Like, why? How? Where is that evidence? I don't see that at all. Like, I don't see she's just a scientist. Like, she's not, I don't see...

She's not a politician. She's not advocating for me. I have follow-up questions. Yeah. I do too. It seems like an odd choice to be like, oh yeah, yeah, no, AOC is how I viewed that. Martin. What part? I don't know. I want to get deeper into what she was talking about. I want to get into it with the...

audience because I know that you all have questions. Okay. Your name and your question? My name's Adrian and my question is if this movie's present day, that puts them in the children's hospital 25 years ago in Greece. Why do they shoot it like it's post-war England? Yeah, that car that pulled up was odd and old, right? It seemed like a Model T. We get it, Adrian. Greece doesn't have modern cars.

Oh, well, I'm sorry. that grease can't have enough cool cars run on instead of cheese, right? Saganac, I said all their cars run on Saganaki, right? You just like... Yes, yes. You know, it's a new fuel in Greece. It's just, it's cooked

cheese. Okay, yes, you have your notebook out, you have a question, yes. Okay, go for it. My name is Laura. Why would you lose your license for combining human DNA with bat DNA? And once you have combined human DNA and bat DNA, why would

you give it to a mouse, which is neither a human or a Now that's a question. Two pieces of candy for that. The movie does a lot of bullshit like that where it's like, we know that you, the audience, understand

that medical tests are done on mice, so we're just going to do that, even though it doesn't make any sense to the movie we're doing, or what's happening. So, fuck you. The movie is caught. Here's with the reality. The movie, if you watch it again, please don't.

The movie is constantly saying to you, the audience, you're a fucking idiot. You're a fucking idiot. I'm not even going to help you understand. I'm just going to show you a bunch of garbage. And you're going to have to be like, I guess I like it, Jared

Leto? Obviously we had opinions about this movie, but there are people out there with a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions. I'm somebody. I kind of want to fight with somebody Why doesn't Matt Smith like me?

I need a second opinion Amazing! Great job, give it up! Here's what I got. I got some second opinions from Amazon. Here we go. There are 39,000 reviews. I don't think that's right. does seem odd. Molly Reynolds,

one of our producers, put this together, 39,000. But it does seem like because the internet memeification of it, maybe it's true. Oh, is that it?

Yeah. Is that just because it became such a... I think it might have been. Yeah, 55% are five-star reviews. Here we go. Kate Pew writes, remember when there was a good old horror movie on every Saturday night?

No. And you and your friends would curl up in the family or living room with bowls of popcorn and potato chips, just waiting to be scared. Guess what? They're back.

They're back? Yep. This is one of a new generation of horror movies, not the classic Frankenstein Dracula, the Wolfman, plus the myriad of sequels and sci-fi, outer space, Japanese monsters, nor is it the slasher gore everywhere,

Friday the 13th, Elm Street, losing your lunch type that was prevalent a few years ago. This is a good, straightforward horror movie. Worth the cost. Well, you'll remember it, but you won't have any trouble. trouble going upstairs afterwards. Five stars. The title of the review, fast shipping and quick handling. That, you know what's disappointing is, and that, and I hadn't even really

thought about this, but wouldn't, this movie would have been so much better if it was a horror movie or if it was, if it leaned into being a horror movie. I know it was horror in, in some senses, but like, like the Marvel, um, what was it, the Werewolf by Night, Marvel Presents or whatever the, wherewolf by night, which is on Disney Plus right now, is a Marvel horror special. And that was, I thought, fantastic. And tonally got what this movie kind of missed. 100%. Yeah.

I mean, I'll end it on this one from Baby Doodoo. Who says... Oh, really? You're going to end it with Baby Doodoo? Baby Do you says... Is it this baby's do-do? Maybe. This baby's so cute.

So cute. And you said it's COVID-free. so I want to hold it, which is bad. Don't fall into that trap, I fell into this trap before, and I got bit. Baby doo-doo writes, this is a movie I watched 10 times before my rental ended

48 hours. Worth the time... I am a serial killer. Worth the time and money, I have watched almost every vampire movie and vampire series, a big fun of the Dracula the character, however, Morbius is giving

the best of both worlds. The ending gives the idea that there's a positive of Morbius becoming part of the Avengers. It creates the biggest expectation of Morbius. I commend the writer for a meaningful storyline as well as the producers and actors that brought it to life. Double thumbs

up. Incredible. But here's the... Thumbs up is double. Not thumb up. Yeah. You never say thumb up. What's great? That makes no... If you're going to watch it, Through the roof. If you're going to watch it that much, buy the movie.

You loved it by the movie. Here's what's crazy. Morbius, the living vampire, exists in the same cinematic universe, and Michael the nerd, correct me if I'm wrong, as Manbat? Or is Manbat D.C.? Okay, thank you.

Thank you. Okay, disregard. Oh, right. I was actually thinking this whole time that Batman was in the Morbius. The X-ray really rattled me. I was thinking that Batman was in this universe, but he's not because I just think of this as like a shitty DC movie, but it's a Marvel. And that's the thing is this feels like it's more of a DC movie than it is a Marvel movie.

And as does Venom, frankly. And Venom too. All right. So this is written by our friend. So when we announced that we were doing Morbius here in Chicago, I got an email. And the email said, I'm a huge fan. of the podcast, a long-time listener, and I was a crew member on Morbius. My role kept me very close to the action. I can't tell you my name, but you can call me bat on the wall. I'm going to have

a twix. Is that okay? Yeah, go for it. And here are the six points that Bat on the Wall writes. First up, Jared was method acting. This included acting very sickly and disabled during the first half of filming. For example, he used crutches to go to the bathroom, hobbling down the corridor at a snail's pace. Each toilet break would last 30 minutes, but it was a two-minute walk away. He also wouldn't come to set for five hours once because he hadn't found Dr. Morbius inside of him yet. I'm so nervous that I'm going to be on a job at some point and somebody's going to write an email to something like this and be like,

Jason Manzukas spent so long having diarrhea in his trailer and he didn't come out because he was nervous because he didn't have wipes for his butt. Bat on the wall continues and says that he also wore

an earwig while filming and his assistant... An earwig is an earpiece where they feed you your lines. Like the same thing that Tyrese had in his ear. where he gets the police report. Except that it's meant in Tyrese, Tyrese isn't using it as an actor,

his character is using it for it to hear the police action. Exactly. But this is something so that some people need to have their lines fed to them. And some people who are big method actors, like even Marlon Brando, liked having the earwig

because it kept them that much more in the moment. If I don't know what I'm going to say, how can I be acting? Brando is, if you have haven't seen it before. When you go home tonight, Google Marlon Brando cue cards or something like that. There's a great photo of Marlon Brando on the set of The Godfather doing a scene. And Robert Duval, the incomparable, the incredible. Robert Duvall has a cue card hung around his body with Brando's lines on it. It's like this big. Jason, I have also worn a cue card.

for an actor I was working with. You wore a cue card? Multiple times. Multiple reveal. Okay. Point number two. Jared Leto constantly ad-libbed

what he thought was hilarious dialogue, but was actually deeply unfunny and vaguely disturbing. Most takes would last 15 minutes, all just a him solidly ad-libbing. It became such an issue, but there were meetings with the studio to see if they could get anything from the scenes. Were they salvageable? The best slash worst day for this

was a scene with Morbius and Martine flirting in the lab. There was a cat in there, and Jared kept on repeating weird lines like, that cat just shit in my mouth. You got a yes. You got a yes. and that. You gotta, you gotta yes and that. Yes, and I bet it tasted great. I'm gonna roll that cat up like a little butt burrito. What, that's not a thing.

Nope. Like a butt burrito is not a real thing. And finally, gravity always wins in the end. I guess that accounts for the pubic hair in my cake. Wait, is that a Clarence, Thomas line?

That's going back. That's for the oldies in the room. That's for Gen X right there. Matt Smith, cool person, great actor, hope he got paid okay. And then finally this. We shot a fight sequence for one and a half months. It was a huge fight between Morbius and Milo in Central Park, which was an English wood where they painted the bottom half of the trees bright red.

and then we shot the rest in an English park that looked nothing like Central Park. I looked up the plot of the release movie, because I have not seen it, and the bats that help him defeat Milo did not exist in the original version. Morbius jabs the serum into Milo's heart when they are grappling mid-air. They fall to the ground in Central Park and then embrace. Then they also changed the Martine plot. It originally ended with Morbius and Martine flying off in. into the sky together while the cops watch.

And that on the wall includes the script. Right here. So this is how the movie ends. Morbius says, ready? I'm going to eat another twig. He holds out his hand. Martine takes it. Martine says, let's get out of here.

Then dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, a big gust of wind blows through. Morbius says, wait for it. Dot, dot, dot, dot. Now, they leap into it. the air together catching an updraft. The cops are taken back by surprise. They train their weapons

into the sky on Morbius and Martine and Morbius says easy guys, settle down. Credits. And Battle on the Wall wants us to know that all the after-credit scenes were not shot in principal photography. So that was all reasons.

Yeah. This movie you know, got a 15% on the tomato meter, but a 71% on the audience score. The budget was 83 million. The opening weekend was 39. The domestic gross of 73. The top movies of 2022 are Top Gun Maverick,

Dr. Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, and Jurassic World Dominion. This movie did come in 23 in the top 200 movies of 2022. And it was beat by Moonfall. Moonfall made more money than... Fuck the moon! Fuck the moon! Fuck the moon

So that is that The only other thing I want to add here That I think is interesting Is that Jared Leder also said That Pokemon was a big influence Of course On the portrayal of Morbius's powers Gotta get them all

And And Jared Lidow also said This first movie is the first date And you know We're just getting to know each other This is kind of our first step forward More of a first impression Yeah

I think if you look at Wolverine at Wolverine, if you look at Batman, you see a lot of these films evolve over time, you know, there's a relationship that develops there, and who knows? We'll see what happens. Who knows? I genuinely hope nothing happens. Although, I would love, I would happily take

Matt Smith and Martine forward. Yeah. Those are characters I'm interested in. Well, Matt Smith is dead. Is he? Is anybody dead in these worlds? I mean, I think you could say that anything else. I don't know. Yeah, we could really. The woman who plays Martín, I think, is incredible.

I've been referring to her as Bix from Andor because she's fantastic in an incredible show. She was also in Father of the Bride, and the remake of Father of the Bride, which is also incredible, and she's fantastic. And I've been calling her Bix from Andor the whole night, and I wanted to just say her name is Adria Arjuna. So I wanted to shut that out.

Amazing. And she's fantastic. Would you recommend this movie? Would I recommend this movie? Fuck yeah It's morbent time, baby Even though I hated it I would absolutely recommend it

Because exactly kind of what you and June said It's very slick, it's good It's like they do a good job Even though it makes no sense It's a pile of garbage And I don't care about any of this nonsense Yeah I will say this

That this movie does pay off some dividends Because I was watching it June was about five minutes behind me and occasionally I would get a little bit ahead of her and I'd look back and think I don't remember that scene at all and she's only five minutes behind me and there were things that I just straight up missed and like it does pay off fun there's more here there's a lot going on and I think you'll really- Well there's a lot going on because we're watching Jared Letto oh god we're watching Jared Letto turn into a living vampire who has a thirst for blood and and spicy Cheetos?

Like when he takes down the counterfeit ring, he's like, you know, get out of here. You can take the money, but leave the spicy Cheetos? And I was like, is that what he's subsisting on? And we all know, Michael, that Morbius is a hot talkies guy.

Actually, Michael, is there anything that you would like to say? Don't attack Michael online. Poor Michael. poor Michael's like, hey, if I got anything wrong,

don't troll me online. Thank you, Chicago. We will be back. We did it, Chicago. That's right. Thanks everybody who wore costumes. Happy Halloween. Eat shit.

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