How Did This Get Made? - My Boyfriend's Back LIVE!
Episode Date: November 14, 2025Brace yourselves, 'cause Paul, June, and Jason are covering the "choice" 1993 teen horror rom-com My Boyfriend's Back starring Andrew Lowery, Traci Lind, and Matthew Fox. LIVE from Largo in L.A. they ...discuss Philip Seymour Hoffman's brilliantly unhinged performance, how Johnny Dingle is a straight up creepo, if Missy is horny for dead bodies, and so much more. Plus, Paul drops SEVERAL new wild childhood stories and reveals an unexpected historical connection to the movie that leaves everyone speechless. • Go to hdtgm.com for tour dates, merch, FAQs, and more• Have a Last Looks correction or omission? Call 619-PAULASK to leave us a voicemail!• Submit your Last Looks theme song to us here• Join the HDTGM conversation on Discord: discord.gg/hdtgm• Buy merch at howdidthisgetmade.dashery.com/• Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of Trauma• Shop our new hat collection at podswag.com• Paul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheer• Paul’s YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheer• Follow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer• Subscribe to Enter The Dark Web w/ Paul & Rob Huebel: youtube.com/@enterthedarkweb• Listen to Unspooled with Paul & Amy Nicholson: unspooledpodcast.com• Listen to The Deep Dive with June & Jessica St. Clair: thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcast• Instagram: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & @junediane• Twitter: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & msjunediane • Jason is not on social media• Episode transcripts available at how-did-this-get-made.simplecast.com/episodesGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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What if a creepy stalker got a second chance to be a creep?
We saw my boyfriend's back, so you know what that means?
Now it's time.
That is creepy?
What's the naked world baby in his belly?
Like a wild snow vest while ripping Justin and Kelly.
Or maybe see a burl that show with it crow.
And take a focus speed to hitting croops control.
Big Paul and the beautiful dream
gonna take you from the crew
all the way with you wrong
rain against the street body
hope to blow off steam
just a sucker punch the odd life
for typically gray shot meals
flurred dimick how you stand alive
they call me a bad ass
and he's on the line
cranking 88 minutes
because they cool as high
cause a bad Jim Farnie looking kind
nice
Paulin June getting literal
Jason is getting laid
June is making sure all the monkey shots
getting paid
There's a bunch of movies
while they're making the grade
Here's a real question for you
Hello people of Earth
and hello people of Los Angeles.
We are live at Largo for our Halloween special
The hauntingly scary.
My boyfriend's back.
My boyfriend's back.
Directed by the same person who wrote Gosford Park.
That's right, Bob Balaban.
Bob Balaban.
Phoebe's dad from friends.
Bob Balaban, the man who played Warren Littlefield on Seinfeld.
Bob Balaban made this movie.
And boy, oh boy, I think it saves it.
I think that in other people's hands, it would have been worse.
But it's also not great.
now if you're wondering what is my boyfriend's back at what somebody's boyfriend comes back
well no um iMdb describes this film as a teenage boy comes back from the dead because he is
determined to win the most beautiful girl in the school okay sure i guess that's kind of like
you know you're you're kind of burying some parts of the story in there whitewashing it if you will
Um, we're going to get into it.
We're going to get into this film that is not even an hour and 30 minutes.
A movie that has a 13% on the tomato meter.
A movie that cost 12 million.
And on opening weekend, made 1.4.
Oh, yes.
There is so much to discuss in tonight's film, but I need my co-host.
Please welcome to the stage, Mr. Jason Manzoukis.
What's up, jerks?
Let's go, Largo!
Yeah!
Oh, boy, Paul.
I'm going to answer your last question first.
I 100% recommend this movie.
There it is.
There it is.
Maybe it's just the, uh, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,
harsh reality of John Carpenter's
The Ghosts of Mars last night?
Sure.
This today was like a warm bath.
I...
100% agree.
Here's the thing.
I'll answer the last question first as well.
I also recommend it.
I don't know if I liked it.
Oh, I thought it was great.
I had that thing happen
that every once in a while
happens with the movies that we do,
which is I found myself not taking it.
taking notes, just enjoying the movie.
Every now and then.
Every now and then I get sucked in
and I'm like, Austin Pendleton?
Okay.
And then I look and I haven't made a note
in like 10 minutes.
Well, I felt the same way.
I feel the same way I feel like
if I was watching a child do,
you know, a play at school.
What are you watching a child do?
A play at school?
Okay.
I have children.
I'm not going and watching other people's children.
Please let me meet them.
No.
No.
Let me meet your kids.
Someday I'm going to meet your kids
and someday I'm going to meet your wife.
No.
Neither.
Jason,
you are better at this than most.
What year do you think this movie came out?
Boy, oh boy.
I'm going to say this movie came out in 1987.
Great. Great guess.
We'll hold the answer on that for just a second.
God. God, I fucked up with this last night.
too. And let me
introduce to you, my other
co-host. Please welcome to the stage,
Miss June, Diane Raphiel.
Nice to meet you.
Welcome, June. How are you?
I'm okay. How are you, Paul?
I'm well. I'm well. June,
well, because we started the episode
answering the last question first. Do you recommend?
amend this movie? I don't know why
we're doing this. I don't
either. I'm happy to talk about it. What are we going to do next?
Teen Wolf? Yeah, it doesn't.
Another fucking classic. Great movie. Why didn't I see this movie sooner?
Yes. Where has it been?
My life would be so much different if I'd seen this movie.
And why are honestly, why aren't we making more movies like this?
Yes. How is there not teen movies now that aren't about like, oh no, twin
brothers both want to fuck me
or whatever
all of these teen shows are.
There's multiple teen shows in which brothers
are battling it out.
All I'm saying is
if this was the final
season of euphoria, I'd be thrilled.
I just like a strong
comedic premise where everybody
knows what world they're
in and the joke, I gotta
say, now maybe I'm in a weird mental
space, you know?
but I have to say
the jokes never got old to me.
Every time someone said it.
Every time you wanted to take a bite out of someone,
I was like, yes!
I got some, I have some small notes,
but before we even get into that, June,
I want to ask you this question.
I know you hate being put on the spot.
But what year do you think this movie came out?
This movie came...
Well, I'm just going to base this on Philip Seymour Hoffman's career.
And I believe there's also...
there's a cameo from Matthew McConaughey.
I mean, he has two lines in the movie.
Also, cut out, Renee Zellweger.
She's in the beauty salon scene.
No lines.
My guess is this movie shot in Texas?
Yes.
Okay, that makes sense because those are all local hires.
Yes.
June, what year?
Okay, so putting that together, carry the one.
I'm going to say this movie came out
in 1988?
Great.
And Jason, you said?
I believe I said 87.
And the year is?
No.
1999.
Ninety three.
How?
1993.
No, wait.
Was it shot in 1987?
Here's the language on a shelf.
Jason, what I'm really, I'm actually worried.
I'm worried because I do believe you and I have lost a decade of our lives.
I believe we may suffer from time blindness.
I will say that this year, 1993, was peak
ZomCom time, because these are the other movies in 93 that came out.
Zombie Blood Bath, Weekend at Bernie's 2,
Return of the Living Dead 3, Ghost Brigade, Ed?
Ghost Brigade.
I don't know.
Ed and his dead mother.
But it's a zombie movie called Ghost Brigade?
Well, I guess maybe they run into zombies, too.
I'm so curious. I've got to do Ghost Brigade.
I'm ready for it.
I think that's clear.
So, yeah, different.
It definitely hit differently in 1993.
I mean, I don't know.
I mean, I'm sure we don't know, but some nerd will tell me.
What year did Teen Wolf come out?
Teen Wolf came out the year before Back to the Future,
because he shot that first.
So Back to the Future is 85.
This is the 40th anniversary.
Because this movie seems like it's basically Teen Wolf,
but what if instead of the puberty allegory being
we'rewolfism, it is zombieism, right?
Yeah.
It's still a lot of the same games are being played.
Everybody's normalizing his zombie immediately.
But I also feel like Teen Wolf, I mean, dare I say a better film.
A movie that I also...
He said it.
I can't believe he said it.
I can't believe he said it's a...
Teen Wolf was a better film.
Pretty good.
I will say that, well, I mean, this is going to be weird and you're not...
Why?
Well, what do I have to hide?
Say it.
When I watched Teen Wolf as a child, I had it on.
VHS because I taped it off of whatever.
It was illegal. I wasn't doing it illegally.
And there was a moment where
he was like getting intimate
with his girlfriend, Michael J. Fox.
And he said
tickle my paws.
Like it was like that was like a thing
like tickle my paws like he's like you know
sexual thing. But I thought
that was the cue to the home viewing
audience to hit pause to potentially
see some nudity.
You thought that?
up yourself?
You invent...
So you thought
that maybe movies
were giving you subtle clues?
Have this worked before?
So in my mind
I never heard the line
so clearly.
I never heard tickle my paws.
I just kind of heard like...
In my mind I might have heard
like hit pause.
And I was like...
And I thought I would see...
And your mind immediately went to.
If I hit it, I get to see nudity.
Because I knew it was like a sexy scene.
I was like, oh, maybe they would shoot like an insert.
Holy shit.
That's awesome.
I've never shared that with anyone.
But it's the only thing that comes.
But it's, it's that you, did you want to announce the next book?
I know, it's a single word.
So you thought, like, were you always looking for your lead actors and protagonists to speak to you the, the viewer?
I understand, I completely understand the overwhelming.
desire to see nudity.
Yes. I didn't have that.
And that you're looking for any way that
it might be able to happen.
That's why you would watch a scrambled cable
channel. A hundred percent. And play
with that dial. Exactly. Every
10 minutes you get 30 seconds of
a boob or something.
But
thinking that the movie was telling you
hip pause.
Hip pause. It was PG. Well, obviously
I mean, did you see anything? Was it
speaking to you? No, because I thought I wasn't hitting it at the right
time.
How long did you spend?
A lot. I would be like,
maybe... No.
No. And then many
years later, I found that the line
was, tickle my pause. I was like,
ah, he wasn't saying, please hit pause.
I mean, this is...
I'll tell you two things of why I thought that could work.
Number one.
First piece of evidence.
When I was a child,
there was a clue, VHS.
game. Okay, so
you would put the VHS tape
in there and you would play the board game
and they're like, fast forward to minute
2, 7, 7, and you're like,
that's not a thing that could exist. 2,4,7
and I'd do it, and you'd watch
something like, oh, good job there, mate,
you did the thing, and they're like, oh, great. So I thought, okay,
maybe all VHS... Who's that?
Colonel Mustard.
Who's the least Darby of this game?
Like Jumanji.
So I thought there was like,
you know, I was like, I...
Okay, so you had been primed.
to, yeah. Right, and then
to be an interactive viewer.
From a clue VHS video game.
This is a movie he taped himself off of cable.
All right.
I'm going to give you the two other...
You're trying too hard to get this, okay?
To normalize this behavior.
I'm going to give you the two other things.
The other thing was that my parents were
at a certain point born again Christians
and they were like,
there's a lot of backward masking on albums.
Like, you know, so, you know, you play it backward.
Salute the devil, you know, not salute.
But, you know, you get it.
Because he's the commander-in-chief, so you got to.
Oh, hail.
Salute the devil.
Salute the devil.
Oh, hail the devil.
He keeps his horns a clean.
I'd love to know what song.
in reverse
plays Hail to the Chief
and has the lyrics
salute the devil
holy cow
holy shit
these how are these new stories
how is it possible
there are new stories
so then
we will stop
here's my
here's what I
my promise to you the audience
we won't stop
this podcast
until Paul runs out of
childhood stories.
It's not movies.
It's not even our desire to do it anymore.
It's so that we can get these
stories to you so that we can
do things that provoke
Paul's memory.
Well, that was what a lot of people said about
my book. They're like, wow, you didn't even share the stories
that you share in the podcast. We thought it would just be the
stories from the podcast, but no. I forgot
those, but I'm just telling new ones.
And then the final thing that
made me think that there could be this.
Wait, what?
There was a kid in my class.
I believe his name was Brian Orlando.
And Brian Orlando told me that his dad had a device that was like a remote control.
So if you were watching like a shampoo commercial with an attractive woman in it,
you could take the device and then put the joystick down and then see naked people in the commercial.
Naked people.
That woman naked or just other naked people?
Okay.
So it would be like.
I need to get in touch with Brian Orlando
because, and hear me out, if this tech exists
and I'm only just hearing about it.
Okay, okay, Orlando.
So just so you know, I'm coming in hot with a remote
control device, clue the video game, and backward masking.
I thought that Teen Wolf, because it was a PG-13 movie,
was sending me a little.
signal to see boof
naked. Wow.
Wow. Tickle
all that from tickle my paws.
We got all of that from
tickle my paws. Well, I didn't
want you to think I was a weirdo pervert.
We do. We do think
that anyway. It seems pretty...
They say now boys like see pornography
by the age of 10 and it's so disturbing
but then I'm like, I don't know. Maybe it's better.
It doesn't matter. At least
they get to see it.
I think of the hours they're not spending doing whatever this nonsense was.
You could have learned to play guitar.
Nope.
Just trying to see.
Maybe just show it to them, you know.
By the way, I will say that scene where he says...
These are boobs.
Don't waste your time.
They'll be there later.
I will say that that scene where she is saying tickle my paws,
they're fully dressed in a high school hallway.
So it would have to be like a real insert shot.
You must have lived in a world in which hitting pause on anything might reveal nudity.
True.
And what's really like, I mean, what's actually breaking my heart is the moment you must have realized like it's not there.
No, like it's just not fair.
I'll be honest, I don't know that he's given up hope.
He still seems to think he just didn't pause it in the right place.
place. Well, now I got
the 4K steel book, and
now I think I can get to the bottom
of it. You don't even want to know how
I dealt with... Like, I, when I
finally got my hands on
a Playboy magazine, I was
so nervous that
I was going to get busted, that
I cut out the pictures that I thought
were choice.
Were choice?
I want to be
very clear. That's
a word I guarantee Paul has
not used since he was a teenager.
True. That's not a word
we use anymore to describe
hot women. As a matter of fact...
Oh, she's choice.
As a matter of fact, I think it's the term they used
in Teen Wolf.
Is it? I think it is. I think
Stiles uses it. Holy shit.
So I cut out these pictures
and then I was like, I can never get busted with
this. Again, a new story is being...
Do you know how lucky you are to be here
tonight? Oh my God. Do you
mean you cut them out like in a
square or like did you cut out the lives?
Such a good question.
So for a collage or for just
pages? So
great question, great question.
Great question.
Wow. Those legs are spread.
I
cut them out to be slightly
smaller than a magazine page.
So I was cropping
slightly.
Why not just rip it out?
Well, hold on. I'll tell you, June.
and then I got an old like hunting and fishing magazine
and then I inserted those nude pages throughout.
So did you own the hunting and fishing magazine?
Or did you go and buy that specifically for subterfugees?
Well, I had like, there were a collection of hunting and fishing magazines in my house.
How old were you at this point?
Guess.
I mean, guess to me?
Like fifth grade.
Okay, okay, okay.
And so then I would keep that in, like, my magazine rack in my room that was next to my lazy boy.
I did have a lazy boy in my room.
And...
Just, you were a real...
You were a real Martin Crane as a child.
So it was next to my lazy boy.
And so then I knew that I could keep it there.
No one was ever going to look at this old hunting.
thing in fishing magazine
that outdated info.
So if I wanted
to look at it, I could, you know,
go to page 35, 72,
you know, I could move around and I'd
have my pictures locked in there.
Wow. Wow.
This is next level.
Wow. Yeah.
This is incredible stuff.
But that just, I just
do, because we do have younger listeners.
Yes.
That, these are the lengths
that we had to go
to in effort to see nudity and be titillated.
We couldn't just be like, look at any random thing online.
No, I had to make sure I was cutting and pasting and using, you know, glue.
Did you try to integrate these choice women into the, like, hunting and fishing
tabloes at all?
Or was it just, like, the page on the page?
Yeah.
It was, unfortunately, it was not that thought out.
I just kind of, I found areas where I felt like, you know, maybe the reader would be done with that story and then I would pop that out of it.
Got it.
So, yeah, because I wouldn't, I would never want someone to find it and be like, oh, what is going on in the world of hunting and fishing and fishing.
And so, yeah, so I did take that, that hunting and fishing magazine upstairs because I thought that no one was, really, I was worried about my mom was going to find it.
I don't think my mom's going to get not hunting.
And never, you were never, your secret was never revealed.
No. Okay. She only got mad at me once for seeing that I took a Victoria Secrets catalog up to my room before it got to like the kitchen mail slot.
It went straight into the hunting and fishing. Yeah, I brought it up.
It's like, don't worry. I only cut out El McPherson. She's the most choice woman in this Victoria Secret. Oh, no, that was me. That was the swimsuit.
Yeah, the swimsuit. I also, yeah. Yeah, of course.
Holy cow.
We did it.
Is the show over?
I don't know what else to say.
I feel like I went into a fugue state about one hour ago.
Wow.
So what I'll say about this movie is the title is misleading.
The title is a little bit misleading.
My boyfriend's back.
He is not her boyfriend.
I would say, and this is the thing that bothers me.
Like, I am on board for this movie, but he is a straight-up creepo.
Yes, I actually, yes, you're right.
I wish, my only problem with it was that I wish they had let go of this idea of her believing he actually died for her.
Because he didn't, yes, he died throwing himself in front of, you know, that bullet.
But he didn't believe at that point that that was a real scenario.
because he had staged it.
Right.
And that, I want to go back one step and go,
he is a creep.
He staged a robbery?
He knew it at that point, but he had already staged.
He sees his friend being like, no, no, it's not me.
I know, but he had still staged a...
Sure.
And I just found it troubling that she never seemed to know
that he had staged this really scary event for her.
Yeah, that kind of gets pushed under the rug.
And it's a weird thing because...
You're saying scary event, and I would say romantic event.
Okay, so that's a different.
And in 1987, when this movie was made, this was the height of romance.
But I'm like, sweetie, don't feel so badly for him.
Like, he would never have even been there.
I guess she would be dead.
But, like, I don't know, actually.
I don't think that guy would have taken his gun out.
I think he hadn't been there.
Can I tell you why she would have been dead?
Because she's reaching behind her to get like a bat.
This man has a gun.
That bad ain't going to do anything.
Just give the money.
Give the money.
Give the money.
And you guys can keep chatting when this person leaves.
I mean, and I will say that, again, I want to talk about the creepiness of our lead, right?
Our lead, Andrew, sorry, our lead.
Johnny Dingle.
Don't even, you need to look at the papers.
I can tell you Johnny Dingle right now.
Johnny Dingle.
You know what it was heartbreaking to me?
Johnny Dingle dies a virgin twice.
Heartbreak.
But, you know, this is what I sort of, I miss the, I know.
The virginity movie?
Well, sorry, sorry.
I miss the days in which teenagers were 37.
Yes.
Like that, I really miss the Andrew Zucker's, like, I missed the, like, I missed the, the old, the old teens.
Yeah, the old teens.
And that's what I did find comforting.
The old teens.
I really do.
I found it so comforting watching this movie.
He was 23.
Johnny Dingell was the same age, if not older, than her dad.
Johnny Dingell, Johnny Dingle 23, the woman, 25.
Yeah.
As all teen movies should be.
Yeah, agreed.
But when he wakes up out of bed, I was like, oh, because it starts with him as a child,
and he's lusting after this girl.
He's not lusting, he's in love with her.
Well, she doesn't seem to even talk.
Is it a Halloween birthday party?
I don't know.
He's wearing a fireman's hat, but that just means.
Everyone else is in costume.
The birthday girl is not.
Yeah.
I think that was just her wish to see everyone else in a different professional uniform.
And why?
They were shooting composites that day.
Why is this movie told in the style of a comic book?
I don't know, but I was thrilled it was.
It made those awkward transitions sing.
it was a really odd choice because
and I understand that there is a tradition of old
of like maybe horror comic books
but it was an odd choice because there's no horror
in the comic book at all
the comic book is really just doing transitions
it's like we couldn't afford to shoot it
so that's odd
so we wake up old man in a bed
we're believing that he's a child
even though he looks the same age as his dad
and then his parents are like
don't cut through that woman
lawn and I'm like okay
I'm in I'm on board
and then he just doesn't
cut through her lawn like he
destroys it
he doesn't actually
he destroys her flower bed which is
so much weirder yes
and that to me I was like
oh great way to not like
this character right out the gate
but the problem is I've already
decided to like him because when he opens
his closet there is a juggling
game in there and I was like
This guy's cool as hell.
I was obsessed with that.
I was like, what is juggle?
Yeah.
I love that both of us were like,
what's the game juggle?
And then when they had the reverse shot,
I saw the back of juggle game.
I was like, oh, there's...
And I just immediately paused it
because I assumed it said juggo.
And I was like, there's got to be boobs here.
I bet there's...
If I bet if I pause,
there's going to be jugs on this.
You have to listen.
You have to listen and be ready.
I spent like an hour
frame by framing
the juggle.
So
I guess what I'm
getting to ultimately
is if you don't change
a single frame of this movie,
why don't you just start off the character as a likable
shy guy who then
get shot not because he's set up
an elaborate like
hoax robbery
like everything that he does in the beginning
set them up as a creep where I
I think it would be more endearing if he's just nice.
I think you're right, except that back then we didn't have creeps.
Back then we didn't have creeps.
We didn't know this was creep behavior.
Well, right.
This just seemed like you, if you're a guy and you're in love with a girl who's been dating Matthew Fox for six years?
They are in high school.
What's going on there?
Who's had a boyfriend for six years?
you have to stage some sort of elaborate prank, hoax, violent thing in order to get her attention.
Also found it interesting that Matthew, they didn't make, the movie makes so many interesting choices.
And one is to not make Matthew Fox a villain, really.
No.
Like, he seems like a nice guy in the beginning, you know?
I never had an issue with him.
He's kind of a dick, but not so, so much.
Not like, I guess not, no more so than our main character.
Well, I mean, the dick of the movie is the surprise of the film, Philip Seymour Hoffman.
Or as he's credited, Philip Hoffman.
Oh, really?
No Seymour in the credits.
Yes.
Oh, I didn't see that.
I just saw it at the beginning.
And I have to say he explodes on the screen.
Incredible.
I've never, I always, I think maybe the first time I ever saw him was Big Loboski for me.
Oh, Big Loboski, of a woman?
Because he's playing a similar character instead of only.
Oh, then I must have, but I don't even remember.
Okay, yeah.
So I remember, I mean, not that I was registering, but I remember him being like the funny,
coky ski dude.
And I was like, oh, wow, what an interesting moment that he, like, turned.
Like, because, we'll just listen.
Fuck, what are you doing?
What is this?
It's clown work.
I mean.
I'm an idiot.
Like, the way he's holding his body, the way his hat is.
Look at where his eyes are.
Yeah.
He looks like a character from Andy Cap and Bazooka Joe.
I mean, it is...
Look at his hair coming out of his hat up there.
Like, this is comedian-level performance.
And immediately, he is just acting everybody off the screen.
He is denim on denim, and here we go.
Well, no kidding.
You stand me up, and then you don't even call me.
My car broke down.
I had to walk eight miles from...
It was raining to get to a telephone, and by the time I got there, you were already gone.
See, I believe that.
I would walk on glass and eat donkeys for you.
Look at Phil Seymour-Hoffman.
I can't live knowing that you're not mine.
You go with a problem with me?
Of course I will, silly.
I'm sorry, too.
Let's not fight anymore.
What's up, Dingle?
What's it?
See you, Johnny.
Now it is.
You can have nothing.
Third bag.
Wow.
It's a straight line from that
to the talented Mr. Ripley.
It's incredible.
Truly.
I mean, yeah.
Sometimes you see it and you're like,
oh, there it is.
It's right there.
It doesn't matter what it's in service of.
It's just electric to watch.
Thank you, Bob Balaban.
Bob Balaban had the eye.
I love that it's Balaban.
I love Bob Ballad.
Everybody, every adult in the movie is a Balaban-level character actor.
Yeah.
It's J.O. Sanders.
It's Richard Gilmore.
It's Austin Pendleton.
Everybody, all the adults are Chorus Leachman.
One scene.
One scene with Chorus Leachman, and it's electric.
And his mom, Mary Beth Hurp, was amazing.
Amazing.
The fact that she keeps bringing him first a toddler to eat.
I laughed so hard.
And then a cadaver is so funny.
Well, this movie feels to me like a John Waters version of Teen Wolf.
I feel like that's what they're going for.
Paul Dooley?
Come on.
And this is the thing I can't quite figure out because all the actors seem to be on the same page.
He's directing them all.
But I feel like maybe it didn't push far.
Maybe it did.
I don't know.
I loved that nobody questioned it beyond,
wait a minute, didn't you die?
Yeah.
Okay, you're here now.
And I loved that it didn't slow itself down to try and work it out, that it just was like,
let's keep going.
But the story we're telling is not about this.
But he didn't really question it either, which I thought was interesting.
I thought for sure someone's going to, and it's him.
I actually, I found it fascinating that he became more likable when he was dead.
Like, once he had something to contend with and an identity that sort of othered him,
he, we had to root for him.
Yes.
Well, yeah, I think you're right.
And I think that this movie
just kind of finds ways
to always go in a slightly different direction
that you don't need to go into.
Because, like, yes, he comes back from the dead.
No, sure, would it be interesting
to give it the smallest amount of explanation?
I wouldn't have minded it, but sure, we don't need it.
Especially when that grave digger
seems to know a lot more than he's letting on.
Murray?
Yeah.
Murray, the gravedigger?
Would love Murray to be like,
yeah, just give me one more line of exposition.
We're halfway there.
but he stops himself from even explaining.
He's like, ah, he'll learn.
Eh, you'll find out.
You'll find out in the rest of the movie.
So then he goes to the doctor, uh, who was great.
The doctor, and the doctor...
So great.
Incredible stuff from Austin Pendleton.
Austin Pendle. I mean, it was really amazing.
The movie, let's be clear, would be unwatchable, but for the adults.
Well, they're all adults, including that toddler.
Yes, true.
Well, and like, and what this is the, got the, but then, like, he goes to the doctor, and he's like, yeah, you got to go see this old woman Maggie.
Like, why?
Why are we making another scene for him to go to her for her, go, yeah, my husband did it too, and he eats dead people.
Like, just that Boston Penals and go, like, yeah, he's dead people.
I'm surprised.
You, I feel like you didn't like this movie.
Yeah, just cannot say it.
Be so for real right now.
You're holding it to a stand?
Is it just because it's so much like Teen Wolf
without the tickle my pause moment?
There is never a moment in here
where they told me to pause the film.
And I feel like that.
Well, these movies owe that to me.
It's PG-13.
And I expected something.
No, and I think, like, I guess what I was getting frustrated by
was like the overcomplication of things.
It's like, no, no, it's simple.
It's easy.
Like, I don't have any problem with the guys
coming out with guns.
The mom killing people, him eating a child.
But, like, why are we, like, detouring?
I do think, yes.
I think that once Austin Pendleton's nurse said, who, by the way, is his wife,
who announced, like, almost two hours into the film just appeared.
I hadn't seen her before.
I don't know if she was a character.
I don't think so.
Appeared as though we knew her and said, you know, we're going to be making a youth serum.
I thought, well, this is definitely a shitload of.
shit a little money this is definitely just a new plot
you know that we're going to have to contend with this late hour
like in a movie that's an hour in 25 minutes that comes in about an hour and 15
and you're right oh and even even the end I rewound it three times
when he goes to heaven well because you were trying to see nudity
yeah well I thought when when St. Peter was like took on my balls
no but I like I was like you weren't supposed to slip on coffee and I'm like
I'm lost here.
I'm a lost.
You are trying to make sense out of...
You're applying too rigorous a logic to this.
Well, I'm saying it's like, this movie should be a straight line.
How about now?
We put a knot here.
And you're like, why?
Why do I need a knot?
Just go to heaven and be like, you know what?
You learned your lesson.
Go back down.
I don't need him to go like, oh, he's supposed to slip on a pot of car.
And then he gets shot.
I'm like, okay, I get, all right.
But why did that happen?
Why? What I still, I guess, I didn't get to is what was the mistake exactly?
That he was supposed to slip on the...
No, I know. Stop saying that. I know.
But...
I know he was supposed to slip on the coffee, but...
You're not going to my field of stream magazine. I'll tell you that my mind.
Wow. It just became unchoice.
But...
I guess that just felt so random.
I couldn't accept it.
Like, I almost wanted Murray to have done something wrong or for him to have, you know, because...
Admit that he set up this entire plan?
Right.
Or because he didn't give her the necklace that something...
I don't know.
There was a better device in there that wasn't used.
The fact that he's wearing the locket,
when he gets sent back,
which stops the bullet,
is, I will say, insanity.
And if I'm her
and he takes the bullet
and she's like, oh, this stops it,
it's a heart-shaped locket
with a picture of me as a five-year-old
I would shoot him.
I would say, give me that God.
It's the only answer.
But also in the world of the movie,
that present is locked away in his closet.
Correct.
Next to jugs.
But we are to assume
because he's gone to heaven
and stood trial
and they've sent him back
that God put that locket on him.
And again...
The Christian God.
Obviously.
And then he goes back down.
I said it.
Goes back down.
have the final dance, and guess what I want?
My boyfriend's back.
Dance to my boyfriend's back.
Nope.
Again, simple choices, that's all.
In a slightly better executed version of this movie,
there would have been like a band from that era
doing a ska cover of my boyfriend's back.
It would be like fishbone doing my boyfriend's back.
You're not going to get from me like,
I didn't like when the mom threw the peanut butter
or the bologna and mussel.
Love it.
No issue with it.
On board.
But I kind of want some other things in here, too.
Like, again...
I love that they also didn't really grieve for him.
Not at all.
No.
Not at all.
It was, in some way, it's healing.
Just to be like, oh, sometimes grief is not that big of a deal.
And also...
And you know what?
It felt like they didn't give in to that level of grief
because they knew he was coming back.
They knew that he was probably going to show up tomorrow,
which is when he arrives.
They just buried him yesterday.
Paul Dooley's son is killed,
and Paul Dooley is like, my son's dead.
And you're about to eat my,
and you're about to eat my other son.
His other son is in there.
When that is revealed to be his other son.
That's so funny.
The one logic issue I had, the one,
was that he would have started to smell very badly.
Oh, yeah.
When she bites his ear and it falls off in her mouth.
Great.
I was like, finally, this movie has arrived.
And by the way, she's kind of, yeah.
Loves it.
She's, in fact, I think, turned on.
She is incredibly turned on by his decomposing body.
Yes.
And she pays no attention to him until he's dead.
And then she's like, what's your deal?
Yeah, you're different.
The ultimate bad boy is one that doesn't have a heartbeat.
Isn't that the tagline?
Nope.
I was obsessed with this movie that reminded me of.
Anyone ever see Dead Heat?
Great movie.
Joe Piscopo gets killed in the line of duty.
Comes back as a zombie,
and his body parts are falling off, too, to solve a crime.
He's got to solve a crime.
So that's why you didn't like this movie,
because you love this other zombie movie.
Piscopo.
I don't like breaking me.
it down that way.
The first syllable
Pisk.
This is a tough thing
about this movie.
I'm actually really mad at you, Paul,
because I came in here
like loving it and now I'm
turning on it and it's not even me.
You can't shake my love.
Yeah, good.
I need to get back there because I'm
All right, I'm with you.
But what I will say though
is that you are, we're referring
to him as a zombie, but there's never
any like mental decay.
or zombie-esque behavior other than, of course, wanting to eat people.
But there's no other sense, really, of him behaving or having any physicality of a zombie.
I wanted him to kill Philip Seymour Hoffman.
Like, Philip Seymour Hoffman putting an axe in his own head.
I'm like, ugh.
And what did happen there?
It was just the weight of it kind of took him back?
He took it back and it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He hit himself in the back of the head, which made no sense.
I feel like that was then not wanting our hero guy.
to murder, but to be able to
eat human flesh. But the last line of the
movie is, I wish I would have killed
that guy. Yeah, I know.
My...
Tough stuff.
My understanding
of zombies, though, is that they like
dot, dot, dot, brains.
Not so much flesh.
He ate his belly.
Oh, I know. He ate his stomach.
They keep saying, he ate,
he ate the stomach.
But don't zombies eat brains? Isn't that
their whole thing? Brains, brains, right?
I don't know that about them.
So I couldn't...
I don't.
Anyway, so that was interesting to me,
just mythologically, to introduce a new thing.
That was interesting, but...
I have a feeling on this.
They couldn't introduce brains
because they didn't have the effects budget to do brains.
I bet you're right.
Because, like, when Philip Seymour Hoffman's on that table...
Well, they don't even have the effects budget
to show him eating flesh.
No, I mean...
He just goes down off camera and comes up with a little bit of blood.
like he ate a burger with too much ketchup.
I wrote here,
this tone isn't done anymore.
And that's what I'm saying.
It's like heathers and John Waters.
You know what it reminded me of Buffy.
It reminded me of Buffy.
A world in which these supernatural elements
are not really explored too much
other than their ability to give us
to let us tell a story,
a coming of age story, a whatever.
Anyway, you get it.
And that's what it reminded me of in a good way that was.
But I guess that's my other question.
What is this a metaphor for?
I think there's both a puberty story in here.
Puberty is 25 years old.
But then there is the story of their unholy romance.
The idea that everybody is so looking down on them
and that she's involved with a zombie, the undead.
I do think, God, I'm now I don't like the movie anymore.
I'm so mad.
Because I think you're, I know, I don't know what happened tonight, but I think, I think what you're right about is, what is he learned?
Nothing.
Right.
You know, he has, what does the town learn?
I don't, nothing.
I think that what I wish for him is that he had started off as someone who wasn't willing to try and put himself out there.
and be brave enough to fail and be vulnerable enough to, you know, tell her how he feels.
But yet the first scene, he's like, you smell good, you smell, he smell.
Yeah, I know.
You know, it's like, ooh, creepy creep.
Yeah, and then he does stage this elaborate thing, you know.
Now, when I did that to you, did you find that romantic?
I thought you were a choice, ma'am.
Choice, oh, my God.
choice. I think you really have to decide to be on this movie's wavelength.
You do. And I got there really quickly. You have to be on board for J.O. Sanders screaming,
you are not taking my daughter to the prom, you stupid dead son of a bitch. Great line.
And by the way, here's the thing about our lead actor, even though the movie and the writing and the story doesn't do him any favors, I did find him to be inherently watchable and likeable. And so I do think,
he carries a storyline that's kind of not there.
I agree.
I feel like given the material that he had, he made some choices.
I think he is likable, but you're right.
He's more likable when he's the zombie, but he hasn't really learned anything
because when he goes back to school, his friend is his friend.
And Teen Wolf, the fun thing about Teen Wolf is.
Here we go.
Take on my pause.
Here we go.
We know.
We've heard you say it.
It's that it's spoke to you.
But it's like the idea being like, here's a nerdy kid.
He's not very good in basketball.
You know, he, he's, no one pays attention to him.
He becomes the wolf.
And then he's like, you know, breakdancing on trucks,
scoring a bunch of baskets in the basketball game.
The hot girl likes him.
You know, and it's like, oh, popularity isn't all it's cracked up to be.
Like, I actually like being with my friends better.
Here, he becomes a zombie, keeps the same friends.
And then the girl that he likes,
Is this kind of like into, like, dead bodies?
Like, she's into necrophilia.
I think you're right, actually.
Because he says, there's that moment where he says, like, I don't just like you because
you're popular.
I don't like you because you're pretty.
I'm like, well, that's all I see.
Like, I don't know why you like her, actually.
No, no reason.
I know.
He likes her for the five-year-old within.
I don't like that.
It's a real roller coaster with this audience.
Put it on a shirt.
All right, let's go to the audience.
Let's see what the audience has to say.
There we go.
I'm going to. All right. So I know there's a lot of interesting things to talk about in this movie.
We've broached a handful, but there are other things left to be said. Hi, what's her name? Nick.
Nick, what's her question? I guess going off what you were just saying, since she wasn't into him until after he died and the death is sort of a stand-in for like an otherism, is she like fetishizing him for his identity at all?
Well, I mean, that's what I was thinking, too. It's like, ooh. She just straight up likes the smell of dead skin.
Yeah.
I think it's as simple as that.
I think she wants to fuck him till his dick falls off.
Yeah.
I think she wants to, I think she wants that.
I do.
I think she's like, I think she's kind of like, previous two, he's just Johnny Dingle,
who cares?
And then she's like, have you seen Johnny Dingle since he died?
He's smoking.
I will say that the dick falling off scene and the sex judging scene.
The dream sequence.
Both disturb me.
I got it from a comedic standpoint
but I was like too much
watching him crawl all over her
and those little heart shorts
by the way I wrote that too
there was something about this era
in which in all of film
young teenage boys
were always represented as having boxer shorts
with hearts on them
yeah I had those
you had them?
I was going to say I've never even seen that
I had a real issue with my boxer shorts
because they were so hard to get in my jeans.
I had to really push them down.
I didn't even, I wasn't even allowed to have boxers shorts.
Oh, really?
Oh, no, I was tidy whiteies all day.
Once, in like teenage years?
Also, boxers weren't popular exactly until a little bit later.
Well, once Bill Clinton said he wore boxers, I was all.
That was it.
Now, did he say that?
And then you paused it, and we're like, wait a minute.
And I saw him.
I had that device.
Some waist down and a pair of boxers.
They look great.
Heart boxers.
Hi, what's your name?
Sam.
Sam, what's your question?
Maybe I missed it in the problem scene at the very end when he comes back to life.
Did Philip Seymour Hoffman not come back?
So he is alluded to as being alive.
What?
Is Philip Seymour Hoffman dead in this alternate reality?
Oh, oh, oh, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
He must be alive.
I didn't see him in there.
He says in the voiceover, like,
The only thing I wish is that I killed Buster, whatever his name was.
Buck, which is Matthew Fox.
Oh.
Buck is Matthew Fox.
No, so if I was wondering where he was, he wasn't in the background.
You're right.
He wasn't in the scene.
But if we do, if he sees St. Peter and they get sent back to the robbery scene,
then nothing after the robbery scene has taken place.
He goes back to the beginning, right?
Well, who knows?
What do you mean who knows?
This God...
I don't think you can say who knows.
We know.
We watched it.
Well, we weren't with Matthew Fox or Phillips Seymour Hoffman that night.
We don't know what they might have died that night.
But the events of the, don't gaslight me on state.
Hey.
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
Do your research.
I don't like both of you teenying up to gas like me.
Didn't he say at one point when he was in front of St. Peter like, oh, and I didn't mean to kill Buck.
Didn't he say that?
He said it didn't mean to eat him.
He does say he wish he.
Killed Buck, meaning when his buddy says,
I know what you should do.
You should, when Buck comes to pick her up for the prom,
you should kill and eat him.
Wear his suit and take her to the prom.
He doesn't do that.
And later in the movie, he says,
I wish I'd done that plan.
Right?
Well, that's crazy.
That's concerning.
He's a creep. Yes.
He's a creep.
Hi, what's your name?
What's your question?
You really want him to be a creep.
Hi, I'm Jessica.
To June's point of Matthew Farker,
It's Buck. You're saying he's not a villain. And it's true because
what it seems to me is this girl who's supposed to be the sweetest, loveliest, most
beautiful, popular girl in the school that's nice to everybody is essentially now cheating
on her boyfriend who has done nothing wrong. In fact, she agreed to go to the prom with him.
He came and, like, did this grand gesture. They apologized to each other. And he had,
his friend's an asshole, but he hasn't done anything wrong. And there's nothing to say
that he lied about not showing up for her.
I also do believe his car broke down on he had to walk.
Maybe that makes me a fool.
I don't believe that for a second.
Here's what I don't believe.
Anything coming out of the mouth of anyone wearing a Letterman jacket.
If you're wearing a Letterman jacket in a teen movie in 1987, facts, you are a villain.
But that's why I was confused because I didn't have any of those feelings for me.
Believe men.
But I do agree believe men.
Always.
I agree with June on that.
That's a shirt.
Believe men.
Believe men on the back.
Tickle my paws.
What's your name?
What's your question?
Hi, my name's Anthony.
I just wanted to ask more about the mom and the plates with the dog.
I don't know how many people notice that, the bit running in that.
Okay, tell us the bit because I don't think.
think we did.
Okay, the first time the mom is serving breakfast, the dog just snatches all the food off
the plate?
Yes, takes all the eggs.
Oh, that's the second time.
The first time.
Yeah, June.
Yeah, sorry, June.
Hey, June, that's the second time.
I believe men.
Hey, let's believe this man.
Go on.
Wow.
This guy's...
I believe him.
This guy's fired up.
I just want to say sorry to June.
Sorry, that's good.
June, do you feel safe?
It's like, it looks like bagels or toast, but the dog just takes, the mom's like, all right, and
sets the plate.
Okay, so the dog is eating all the food.
It's a funny bit.
They laughed at the eggs.
I didn't see the first one.
Thoughts?
Well, I do think that it's leading to what we, what ends up happening, which is the dog takes the, you know, the body and pulls it from the fridge.
I think what we're setting up is that this dog will eat anything anywhere, any time, any day.
And I love it.
And that's the rich text that is this movie.
There are things happening.
Listen to what the movie's telling you.
There are things happening that we didn't even pick up on that it takes a man in the audience to illustrate.
Thank you.
Finally a man asking question.
And explain it as only a man can by barking it at us.
Here's what I wish.
Because some of these movies of this time, although I guess we don't know what time it was after all, 93.
Well, we do know what time it was.
Here's the thing.
Here's my question about 93.
Was this movie made in 93, though, as a period film to feel like 87?
No.
God damn it.
It's crazy.
I agree.
Because what's important to me about movies, well, the movies I saw when I was 13 and pretty impel.
A lot of Molly Ringwald, like, what was important to me about those women was that they were, I wanted him to let go of her as an idea.
Wouldn't that be great?
And a concept.
find, like, when I saw him sitting next to that
girl and staring at her arms in the library,
I thought, well, who's she?
I mean, he's looking at her because he was to eat her.
I know he wants to eat her. She wants to chop, chomp, chomp
down on those arms. But that was a very
important narrative to me to, like, see past this
vapid girl. I'm sorry?
I thought she had a strong sense of self.
The library girl in the library?
Because she didn't allow him to eat her?
Wow.
Okay.
Now that's interesting.
She didn't expand on that.
She just was like,
hey, back off, man.
Like, you know, and I thought like
she just killed her.
You know, she wasn't like, I'm a nerd.
You can eat me.
Like, that's like...
No, I guess she wasn't.
The only flaw I see with the movie
is that I don't even understand
what he's still doing at school.
I don't either, but...
Let's be clear.
If I'm dead, I am not going to school.
It seems like he just wants to go hang out
with that girl.
Yes, and find her elsewhere.
I guess what I am.
saying is that I felt like
there were movies that
that let go of
the idea of the hot girl
who had nothing else to offer but being
hot and popular and I thought
by 93.
We had done our time with
that and that's what's wrestling with.
The idea that I'm in college when this movie
comes out is stone cold
chilly. And I was
13. I'm a lot younger.
Go on call next person.
Wow. I was
Just getting my period.
Savage flecks from a choice woman.
Well, now, no one brought up this fact, and I'm surprised L.A.
Now, you might want to say brace yourself.
Sorry, you might not want to say it.
I'm going to say to you, brace yourself.
Wait, so who's saying brace yourself?
I'm saying.
I just want to be clear, just so as we're cutting it together,
so who do you want to say brace yourself?
And when?
Because for us to say brace yourself
We don't know to...
Hang on a second. Hang on a second.
So you guys go.
Three, two, one.
Brace yourself.
No, I have to say to you.
No.
I have to say to you.
You're not presenting to me.
I'm presenting to you.
Brace yourself.
We're going to go on a little bit of...
Wait, let's do one thing.
We just do it.
You guys on three just say you brace yourself.
One, two, three.
You brace yourself.
No.
You brace yourself.
Okay.
You brace yourself.
No.
You brace yourself.
You brace yourself.
Listen to me right now.
You better brace yourself because I will not.
I will not do it.
You know what?
I will.
I'll brace myself.
You did it!
Wow.
Wow.
By the way, you guys got a good one.
Oh, God.
People have asked, what if,
what happened to the lead actress in this movie, Tracy Lynn?
I'm going to tell you.
Oh, God.
I am actually, I am bracing myself.
Okay.
Tracy Lind?
This is the actress in the movie.
In 1997,
Lynde went public
with accusations of physical abuse
regarding her boyfriend,
Doty Fayette.
She claimed that they were physical with each other,
and he threatened her with a 9-millimeter
Beretta when she rejected his proposal.
Two weeks later,
Doty died in a car accident
with his new partner, Princess Diana.
I couldn't, honestly, I didn't, honestly, I didn't brace myself enough.
With all that, I didn't, I didn't.
Consider me brace.
Wow.
Wait.
Wow.
And then the final part is after his passing.
Lind retired from acting, stating, I'm an intensely private person, so this whole acting thing was just the wrong path for me.
lights like we gotta go i have to go shows over tick tickle my paws how do you come back from wow i'm just i just i can't wrap my head around this it's a it's a it's a it definitely
in a million years i couldn't have come up with that didn't think who played her in the princess diana movie that we did just go over the timeline with me one
Okay.
So she's engaged in him.
So this movie is made in 93.
In 97.
I'm 13.
Jason's in college.
Go on.
Yes.
And then what happens?
In 97, she is dating Doty Fayed.
She goes out and says, hey, this guy's been abusive to me.
In 97, she's saying these things.
She's dating him?
And then two weeks after that.
He says in 98, right?
Two weeks.
Two weeks after she went public, Doty died in a car accident with his new
partner, Princess Diana.
This changes everything.
Wow.
Oh, there's a little more.
Okay, hold on.
Who said that? You did?
Oh, well, I knew you had it.
All right.
All right, correct.
Get that guy out of here.
I say that.
I do that bit.
What do we got?
So when Chuck,
Philip Seymour Hoffman is chasing
Johnny with a baseball bat,
Eddie comes out and he's reading a Time magazine or People Magazine
and Princess Die and Charles' divorce is on the magazine.
Okay, but that's just pure coincidence, right?
Here's my theory.
Here's my theory.
Doty was having trouble in his relationship with Tracy,
was watching this movie and saw that Die was on that cover,
single, ready to mingle, and then she dies.
Wait, do we know, though, for sure that Doty and Tracy were dating during the film?
Yes, was that during this period?
Do we know that?
Oh, no, I think he was just rewatching and trying to re-
Oh, oh, oh, God, God.
You think, do you think he was watching it for the pod?
What I'm saying is to say...
Knowing that in the future we would cover it?
Could be.
I thought you said pause.
I genuinely thought you said pause.
And I was like...
Pause the episode right now to see Jason naked.
And if you're listening to the podcast, do pause.
do pause during the pod because there is nudity
I want to agree with this story and say
they're dating and he's like well what do you do and she's like I'm an actress and
she's like well what have you been in she's like my boyfriend's back let's watch it
then sees that magazine gets that idea
and then we move on to this timeline how many years later is that though
three years later oh oh okay okay
three four years later I see I see I see
wow you know by the time it's on home video
This has been maybe the biggest bombshell
since Catherine Hegel replaced Megan Markle in suits?
Was that it?
Was that it?
I don't think she replaced.
I think we were just figuring out how many members of the royal family were in suits or connected to suits.
There was some reveal that then similarly, I feel like, threw me entirely off track for days.
Well, I mean, a couple of things.
things that you, I mean, I can get you back to some stuff and say that the movie was originally
offered to Peter Jackson. He turned it down. And then they gave it to another guy, Adam Marcus,
but then Disney was like, he's too young. And so he went on to go make Jason Goes to Hell the
final Friday. And then they bring him Bob Balaban, but they kind of dangle the script in front
of Bob Balaban for months. And then they go, finally go shoot this thing, give him two weeks
notice to shoot the movie.
and he nailed it.
Yes.
Maybe it should be...
You know how they have those shirts
like a film by Albert Books
or, you know, a film?
It should be like a film by Bob Balaband.
They should make that...
I would love...
By the way, I would love it.
Okay, so...
Oh, man.
As we digest...
I don't... I'm not recovered.
This...
Are we...
Are we a true...
Let me ask a real question.
Are we okay?
Are we, are we safe?
No.
All right.
Obviously, we have opinions about this movie,
but the people out there with a different opinion,
it is now time for second opinions.
Hi, I'm Kelsey.
My boyfriend's back, but wait, he's not my boyfriend.
Hey, La, hey la, he's not my boyfriend.
He's kind of obsessed and never had to.
the balls to talk to me.
Hey la, hey la, I'm with Matthew Fox.
He dove in front of bullet for me.
Hey la, hey la, sure I'll go to prom.
I never expected him to come back from the grave.
Hela, hey, la, he's kind of cute.
He's starting to rot, and we're making out in his car.
Hey, la, hey, oh, his ear fell off.
Hey, that's kind of the whole plot
Hey, there's Phillips Seymour Hoff
After all the hijinks and he makes it to the prom
He goes right to the afterlife
Johnny finds out that he should have never died
So they sent him back to the start
We're back at the beginning
With the botch robbery
Hey La, hey I'm almost done
Almost.
This is a recap, madam.
Hey, I'm getting it five stars.
Hey, the mom was the best part.
My time was fun, and it was a silly ride.
Hey, la, hey, how did this give made?
Nice.
Amazing, great, great job.
That was good because it reminded me of a lot of, if not all, of the plot.
Yeah, it was great.
Good refresher at the end of the show.
There are 1,250 reviews of this film.
82% are 5 star.
Now, I will tell you this much.
There's a review here.
I will not read it in full, but I need to give you just a taste of it.
It is from Dr. Jacques Coulardot, from July 7th.
2012. I'm going to read a middle paragraph in the last paragraph. Okay. School teachers and other
school personnel are just what they are, a school of cold fish that stink high heavens like
rotting salmon in a polluted river. And I will not say what happens to the trout in the lake.
Dead fish can also be zombies. But then do they not have fish bones in their bodies? Rather
perambulating, decaying
radiations, like in nuclear radiations?
Don't touch, it burns.
Now that's the middle paragraph.
It goes on.
And I'll read the final paragraph.
The film is funny,
though, of course, not as funny
as Michael Jackson's rewriting of the Night
of the Living Dead. It is true here
that we have the Prom of the Living Dead
Mixing with the Dead Living. That sounds more
romantic than terrifying, but
it is horrifyingly grossed
times, and Shakespearean at others.
They even have the balcony scene of
Romeo and Juliet revisited for young
zombies with decaying muscles.
I wonder where
the three weird sisters are.
Ah, ha, ha, ha, ha.
Three times, of course.
Five stars.
It takes the delirium tremens
of the dead. So, if you
want to read the nine
paragraph review, we'll put
that up on the website. And my understanding
is that's what you do in auditions.
Yes, I read that now.
I read all these things in here, yeah.
It says, poor Dingle was a dongle
in his life and as a zombie.
Yeah, it's good.
But that does, that does suggest,
and I'm shocked none of us have brought it up,
thriller being another kind of zombie,
romantic zombie, of course, dancing
that this movie did not have.
But, like, that's another very totemic zombie portrayal
in this era in 1987.
Then Jay Bordelan
And 2001 writes
Well, first of all,
was that?
I love this movie with a passion
And I've seen it at least 40 times
But last night, I rented it for the 41st.
And I noticed something I never noticed before.
The name of the song they danced to at the end of the movie.
I had my closed captioning running,
all of a sudden it pops up, hanging on for dear life by MMC?
Now, I was thinking that MMC stood for Mickey Mouse Club,
but I don't think in this case it does.
Also, comment to other Amazon reviewers.
I know too much more than anybody about movies and music.
But if you want to know the name of a song or something
and you got to leave your email address in the review
so people can write you back.
Well, peace and love and chicken grease.
Bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.
And again, I would argue that these reviews...
Wait, what just happened at the end?
Don't know.
Wait, do you think that bye-bye-bye-bye was like Backstreet Boys?
Well...
Wait, who's saying bye-bye-by-by?
Insync.
Insync.
He did...
You got to email him.
He did leave his email address in the review
so you could be like, well, what is?
MMC. Like, I guess he was
asking you to, like, say, like, I'm not going to tell
you here. I'm not going to tell you what
MNC is. Let's take this offline. Yeah.
And, you know, every now and then we do
one-star reviews. One-star reviews,
first opinions. These are
people who don't like the film.
And I wanted to call out this one
written by Shelley.
This movie would be
fine if they didn't
use the Lord's name in vain.
A total waste of money
If you're like me and find that very offensive
We don't watch anything with foul
Spelt F-O-W-L
Language
We don't watch anything with foul language
Or G-D in it
One star
Disappointed
There's no issue with the resurrection
Of a non-Christ-like figure
but really has a problem with them using Christian God's name.
I also have to agree.
Well, we know we all recommend it.
Yeah.
Although I feel like you are a no.
I'm a yes.
I'm a yes, but I would love a simpler pass on it.
Like, I just would love it to be streamlined a little bit.
Like a nerdy kid who realizes something here, he realizes nothing.
he gains nothing
when he goes back and asks her out
he's still asking her out
with like he saved her life
so she's like oh yeah I'm indebted to you
but the only reason why she's impressed is like
wow he saved my life
I feel like you need to have something more
to build a relationship on it's not much of a hero's journey
I agree I mean all that's true
but it's so much fun
I mean this movie to me was just
good old fashion fun
and I do a pre-
a comedy that's going to take a strong comedic premise point of view and just play it out
beat by beat.
We don't make those types of movies anymore.
And despite your concerns, I really wish, I wish we did.
I really like, I watched this and I was like, I'm craving this kind of dumb.
Everybody's committed.
Everybody's on the same page.
Everybody knows what the game is.
and we're all just, like, continuing to build it out.
I really miss these movies, and I really enjoyed it.
Agree.
All right.
I agree wholeheartedly.
This movie is a home run for me.
And the idea that this is not, like, that kids don't have a this to watch.
And maybe they do, and I just don't know what it's called, and it's on YouTube, and everybody farts into a can, and everybody's like, you smelt it.
I don't know.
I like that one.
But this to me is, boy, what a blast.
Why does comedy have to be so real now?
Boring.
Yes.
Well, because, yes, I agree.
Completely.
This to me...
Dramity is killed comedy.
Oh, yeah.
For real.
Yeah.
It has.
It's true.
And I miss these movies.
I miss these movies from the John Husey versions of these to the teen wolves to this, to the B movie, like this version of it.
Like Dead Heat?
This is a blood.
I will watch Dead Heat.
I would like to do Dead Heat on the show.
Put it on the diet.
We absolutely.
do it because that's this treat williams joe piscopo comedy legends maybe let's not do dead heat i actually
think that treat williams is the one is the zombie right don't scold me sorry prepare yourself
brace yourself um yeah no i i i brace yourself you brace yourself okay fine i recommended a hundred
This was, and I will say this, Paul, your criticisms, though they may be valid, I did not, it didn't interrupt me from enjoying this movie at all full stop.
And that's where I will say, while I had criticisms, I enjoyed the movie.
And I enjoyed what it did.
What'd you say?
I said, I know you did.
Oh, yeah.
The only way the movie could be better would be nudity.
well we just got to figure out when they're telling us to pause it
yeah and it would have been great if like when his dick falls off
and rolls down his his pajama pants
if it fell out and we saw it
we all want to know what dingle's dangling
we all want to know what dingles dangle tickle my paws
what do we want this shirt to be a film by bob ballaban
we wanted to be a tickle my paws do you listen to men
Brian Orlando.
Holy shit.
Brian Orlando Electronics.
And it's a...
Brian Orlando Electronics.
That's it.
Yeah.
I think we could do Brian Orlando Electronics.
Are we going to get...
I don't...
I'm not worried about getting sued by Brian Orlando.
Okay. Come after me.
Everybody that Paul went to grade school with is dead anyway.
Yeah.
They all died in that mysterious gas leak.
All right.
That's our show.
I just want to say, T to B, this episode has been unhinged.
So great.
So great.
And well done.
You guys were part of a great episode.
What a fun one.
This was unreal.
And I only feel bad.
for the people that watched
Ghosts of Mars last night.
Sometimes that's a hand you del.
A true dog shit movie.
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