How Did This Get Made? - Over The Top LIVE! w/ Bobby Moynihan (HDTGM Matinee)

Episode Date: July 22, 2025

SNL's Bobby Moynihan joins Paul, Jason and June to cover the 1987 arm wrestling Sylvester Stallone classic, Over The Top. The crew discuss everything from the weird father/son relationship to the movie basically becoming a high stakes arm wrestling documentary. They also talk about the Alka-Seltzer product placement, arm wrestling toys, and why being able to drive a truck makes you smart. (Originally Released 07/30/2013) • Go to hdtgm.com for tour dates, merch, FAQs, and more• Have a Last Looks correction or omission? Call 619-PAULASK to leave us a voicemail!• Submit your Last Looks theme song to us here• Join the HDTGM conversation on Discord: discord.gg/hdtgm• Buy merch at howdidthisgetmade.dashery.com/• Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of Trauma• Shop our new hat collection at podswag.com• Paul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheer• Paul’s YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheer• Follow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer• Subscribe to Enter The Dark Web w/ Paul & Rob Huebel: youtube.com/@enterthedarkweb• Listen to Unspooled with Paul & Amy Nicholson: unspooledpodcast.com• Listen to The Deep Dive with June & Jessica St. Clair: thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcast• Instagram: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & @junediane• Twitter: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & msjunediane  • Jason is not on social media• Episode transcripts available at how-did-this-get-made.simplecast.com/episodesGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm

It's part Rocky, but with arm wrestling. And part Kramer versus Kramer with Stallone and Robert Loja. What could go wrong? Everything. We saw over the top, so you know what that means. Now it's time to... How do you spend your... You gotta keep it clean, time to save us a bad little match.

We're gonna wait it, don't you know you're under a hundred scoops of rain? Let's throw in the mediocrity of some pariahs Your eyes will find the answer to the question How did this get made? Hello, people of Earth, and welcome to a very live episode of How Did This Get Made. We are here at Subculture in New York. I am joined, as always, by my two co-hosts.

Please welcome Jason Manzougas. And June Diane Rayfield. We have a very special guest tonight. You know this next person from Things That Are Very Funny. Please welcome Bobby Moynihan. All right. I don't remember thinking that this movie was crazy lame. I thought when I was a kid, I was like, this movie is amazing. But literally, I would say 45 minutes is spent in the third act, like the arm wrestling portion. Like the plot is like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we gotta get through this plot part.

The first half, this movie is structured like a romantic comedy between a man and a child. With a romantic montage where they sleep in the car together and then do workouts and then have, the kid at the end has to like run through the airport and get to his dad so he can be like, I love you dad! And the dad, and they're always going like, pump it up, pump it up, pump it up and over, up and over!

Everything is like the most sexual movie we've ever, I'm like, I dropped it hard. Well you didn't even talk about the tackle in the middle of the highway where he grabs his son, hugs him tight. And he rips his sleeve off. Ugh! Sometimes you need to aggressively hug somebody

to get them to love you. But the movie is edited in a weird way too because they clearly didn't have enough footage for the first half of the movie. So they show a scene of like, Salon and the kid getting along. And then like two scenes later, he's like, hey, why don't you smile?

It's like, no, we saw him in the montage. He was smiling. He looked very happy. They were like, oh shit, we need, it's 88 minutes. Give us, put that in there. The first 15 minutes of the movie is a lot of people just judging Sylvester Stallone. Yeah.

Like he, it's the best acting ever, but he'll walk by and there's one woman who literally mouths the word. She's like, who is that? Yeah. They're so terrified that someone with suspenders that showed up in their town. And they've also added like all these other ADR lines as he's walking to that military school. Yeah it's a military school. People are like what's this who's that what's going on what is that guy like. I thought he was a colonel for a minute and I got super confused. A military school. The colonel's ready to see you I was like wait his dad's the fucking colonel for a minute and I got super confused because they said the colonel's ready to see you. I was like, wait, his dad's the fucking colonel?

A military school which discharges his son to the father who he's never met and is like, you take him home. But the father. We're cool with this. Yeah, the son has never met the dad, but how does he prove that he's the father? Just a blown up eight by 10 of their wedding picture.

No, not only that, but it works. Of the father, but it's not even in it. But didn't that make you think a little bit? I had never seen it. I watched it today for the first time. And when he showed that photo, there was a time where it was like, well, you can't fucking fake that.

Yeah. That's true. But by the way, the son said, that was legit the day he was like, you have a photo? The son says, and rightly so, can I see some ID? First of all, we'll get into the wife, I hope, in a second. And her motivation, like, why didn't she call her son

and say, dad's coming to get you? Why didn't she hide the letters? Why didn't she hide the letters? She was too weak. By the way, I'll also go to say, like, Stallone really wants to connect with his kid, yet he's very late for this graduation. Oh yeah. Like, he shows up after it's over,

but yet he spends a lot of time washing the truck, armor-auling the wheels, brushing his teeth, wearing suspenders. Like, you know what? He's late! He's also late to the mother's funeral. This fucking asshole can't be on time for anything. I so wanted him to pull up in the truck.

He wished he had pulled up in the truck for the funeral. Oh yeah. I feel like he's like, he arrives late, he either picks a kid up or throws flowers down and he's like, boom, I'm out. I could give a shit right now. I got an arm wrestling competition, which is apparently the biggest sport in America. Yeah, did I miss something like in 1987? This is like saying the XFL was as big as the NFL.

It was like, this never happened, televised arm wrestling. Like, televised everywhere. Like when the kid is running through the airport, it's on like eight TVs. Like, he's like, he comes out of the luggage carrier and he looks up and it's like, Arm Wrestling, All American Championships.

And it's like, there's a- By the way, it's on screens at the airport in between like, this plane is arriving at 745. I was like, why would that TV be on? Because people want to know what gates they're going to and who the fuck is winning the Arm Wrestling Championships. I hear Butch is doing really good in the semis. I heard Grizzly's drinking oil again.

Ha ha ha! I heard one of six bearded men has lost his mind. There is no shortage of bearded men who just go, RrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR which I highly recommend that you do. Basically, Stallone's a truck driver who's a part-time professional arm wrestler who's estranged from his son, but has an amazing relationship with his ex-wife. Like, amazing. Like, he calls her honey, and there's no animosity. And he's devastated when she dies.

Yeah. Well, when even questioned, like, why did you leave my mom? He's like, I have my reasons. And by the way, we never find out what those reasons were. By the way, if you think you're gonna find out, you're not. If you think when the kid opens the letters and is like, now we're gonna get some information, we don't.

Guys, I honestly, I really do think that there was something deeply wrong with the mother and not, obviously physically she was not doing... Yeah, no, no, she was dying. She was very weak. She was very weak. Something was very wrong with her. She not obviously physically she was not doing. She was dying. She was very weak. Something was very wrong with her. She had terminal illness. I think she might have been also, I think she might have also been insane. Because there's one shot of her where she's sitting in her hospital room and she's like sitting in a very nice upholstered chair.

She's very wealthy. And she's on the phone and the son's asking her questions and she says, I'm sorry, I can't talk right now. I have to go. To where? Oh June, the answer is heaven. She had to go die. The answer is heaven. She's going to heaven.

I think that she was getting cancer injected into her. She's like, I need to die. She's like, I gotta get out of this world. My husband left me. My dad is Robert Lohsha. Things are bleak. But there is a moment too, like this is the flaw of the movie is that none of it makes sense.

But. That's the flaw? Yeah. That is the big flaw. None of it makes sense. That's the flaw of every movie we watch. But there's a, in the moment in the beginning, the son is like, you know,

how come you haven't talked to me? By the way, fuck this kid. Um. And. Now this, this is Sylvester Stallone's real son, right? You know what, I thought it was, and I did some research, it is not. Oh, I thought it was.

I thought it was too, and then I did some research. Oh, I remember that being something that I- Rocky V is his real son. Oh, okay. He was the voice of Sam in the Transformers movie. Yes, that is true. Well, that changes everything then. Because the whole time I was like,

well, it's his real son, so that makes kind of sense. Now I'm like, well then, kid, get your fucking hands off that kid. He's not the only one though. The second bull. But he leaves the kid alone all the time for people to just grab. He leaves him alone at the bar and bull,

I think his name is Bull walks in and how he introduces his character is by grabbing the boy's hand who also has the stress ball in his hand and he just goes, where's your father? No, he goes, how do you know that man? How do you know that man? And he goes he's my father.

Yeah. It's so gross. He was so jealous. By the way, by the way, five minutes before they arrive at that steak house or whatever that was, like. Steak house? Not a steak house. No.

June, June. Shitty, shitty roadside diner with arm wrestling in the back. Whatever it was. I do think though that Sylvester Stallone has like this crazy food obsession. I know we're gonna talk about Demolition Man later. Hey, let's go get a steak.

I know a great place. But he's obsessed with food in his movies and like bad food and good food. Well, he's trying to get the word out about cholesterol on a lot of his movies. That's what's happening. You feel like that's like his underlying thing. Like, you know, like John Travolta might have been trying to do with Scientology and Battlefield Earth.

Here he's like, we gotta get the word about cholesterol. That kid talks about cholesterol like seven times. Oh yeah. But the kid says, that's my father so proudly. And so he speaks about him in such a familiar way. He just met him 10- Hours ago. Moments ago.

Hours ago. What I ago. Hours ago. Again, I wanna bring back to the one crux part of the beginning, right when he meets his dad, he's like, you never talked to me, never re-chatted. He goes, whoa, what are you talking about? A role- Flawless, flawless Stallone. Flawless.

It was not Stallone, I was not doing Stallone. I was doing Robert De Niro. So, and, And he goes, you know, why haven't you reached out to me? He's like, what are you talking about? I wrote you 100 letters. And the kid's like, oh. And then at that point, he should be like,

oh, well, there must have been some kind of crazy miscommunication. I shouldn't be mad at you. I believe the kid asks to stop having a conversation after that. Yeah, he says, I don't want to talk about it. Or, Stallone, one would think he would follow that up with, did you not get them? Yeah. That's weird. Or, like, I wondered would think he would follow that up with, did you not get them?

Yeah. That's weird. Or, like, I wondered why you never heard about them. That's weird. I got 100 of those things, I guess. Oh, well, if you never got my letters, this all must seem insane. And then on top of it...

You must be terrified right now, because I'm a stranger who has kidnapped you with intent to rape. I am wearing suspenders. And I want to have a conversation with your mother. Yes. There's a lot of, but by the way, just to talk about these letters, if you're watching the movie and you're at least an active participant as a viewer, you would go, oh, the bad guy

in this movie is Robert Lohsia. I bet you Robert Lohsja held those letters back from him. Nope. No. The easiest choice this movie could have made was, he had all the letters. Nope, the mom did. Hitting in her purse. Hitting in a purse in a drawer.

And then she went and died like an asshole. But yet the mom, whenever she's on the phone, she's like, oh, you guys need to connect. You need to bond. So like the mom is always like, you need to connect, but yet I was holding back this crucial part of information for you to connect, which goes into Jun's thing,

which is she's certifiably insane. He's a crazy person. Oh, everybody's crazy in this movie. Like the only person who's not crazy, I feel like is the kid. And in a lot, I mean, he's crazy, but in a lot of ways, like when Bull comes up to that kid, he's like, who is that man? Or how do you know comes up to that kid and is like, who is that man?

Or how do you know that man? The kid should be like, I don't, get me the fuck out of here. Shit's going down that is not cool. And then later when Stallone takes the kid into like another restaurant, takes him to the back, he takes the kid, he takes him to the back of another bar

where there's a bunch of kids playing video games and he's like, hey, who wants to turn at my son? Hey, hey, hey, you kids. It looked like a scene out of The Accused. How'd you like to do about robbing on my son? Get up here on the pinball table, yeah. It's fucking mental. And then when the kid runs out crying,

he's like, I don't like this. You humiliated me. He's like, you fucking get in there and you do this. You do this because you're a man. You take it. You take this. And the kid at this point in the movie has shown no proclivity to arm wrestling, being strong.

It's also the only second, the second time they arm wrestle in the movie in that scene, I believe. There's not a lot of arm wrestling in this. Only the last 40 minutes and then it's all wall to wall. All to wall arm wrestling in this only the last 40 minutes It's all wall-to-wall arm wrestling I want to set you earlier the more it's real steel. It's a movie except Robbery real steel is this I? Just want to I do want to show you Obviously Stallone getting ready for arm wrestling.

And this is one of my favorite moments, how he gets psyched up for the arm wrestle here. So I'm going to crack that open here. This is more of a video moment than it is an audio. So we'll just duck out of the way of the screen. And here we go. Three on the hook! Two on the hook! Three on the hook! This is the perfect time to do this game! This is the perfect time to do this game! You and Vegas? Come on, man! Yeah! That's the perfect time!

Three on the hook! This is the perfect time to do this game! This is the perfect time to do this game! Ha ha! That's it. That's... That's a scene in this movie. Super weird. Right here. Super weird. I love watching Stallone in that scene

walk up to get prepared. He looks like every blood vessel is gonna burst. He's like... It's like the Hulk, but he's not turning. It's like he's just taking a really hard shit. It's like, bleurgh! Like, it's like the Hulk, but he's not turning. It's like he's just taking a really hard shit. Just shaking.

And then the other guy that he's wrestling there is like just a Bizarro Patrick Swayze. Oh, that's great. He's every crazy person smashed together, I feel like. Just to put some context to this movie, Stallone was paid $12 million to star in this. What? It was done in 1987.

So $12 million in 1987 is a lot of cocaine. Um, and years later, Stallone explained that he agreed to appear in this movie, saying that the producer, Golan, kept on offering him more and more money until I finally thought, what the hell, no one's gonna see this. And here we are. It came in fourth place on opening weekend, so that is pretty bad for like Stallone and his prime to come in fourth. Do you know what beat it by any chance? I do not know what beat it. No.

Sorry. Sorry. Oh boy. Does anybody hear now? Failures. You fucking worthless sacks of shit. How did this get beat? Stallone drives a cologne truck.

At one point he is transporting cologne. Like uh, which I just, just the idea of cologne in a 16-wheeler made me laugh. Like one type of cologne just like, brooch. It was, all the bad ads in this dude. Oh yeah, so many bad ads. I just have a question about trucking because it seems like... You have a question about trucking? I do because at the end of the movie there's a big prize at stake at the arm wrestling

tournament which is a giant truck. How lucky. Yes. Because at the end of the movie, there's a big prize at stake at the arm wrestling tournament, which is a giant truck. How lucky. Yes. Right, but when you, this is what I'm asking, when you are a truck driver, aren't you just given the trucks of the company? Okay, thank you. A very mad truck driver.

To be fair, 85% of our audience are truck drivers. And we appreciate you guys listening on the long hauls. Big podcast listeners, big podcast listeners. You guys listened to us over CB when we first started out and we appreciate that. When a new episode comes up, they're all on the CBs going, Breaker Breaker. Breaker Breaker.

You listening to this Howard the Duck episode? I will say though that- We got applause breaks just for mentioning our own episodes? I will say that it was odd to me that the prize of the arm wrestling competition was a big rig because if you were not a trucker, that is not a good prize. It seems to be only a prize he would want. Yeah! I laughed out loud this morning because the way they set it up is awesome because he goes and the winner will win $100,000 and and then he

says and then a truck also like what are the chances this guy this is this guy's day. So much so that when they're announcing all of the different arm wrestlers for the final like the finals, they announce everyone and everyone sort of turns to the camera and gives like a really scary face. And when they announced Sylvester Stallone, By the way, this is the amazing acting. He's faced away because he's staring at his truck.

Yeah. And so he's just sort of caught off guard and then has to turn around. And also everybody else in that scene, exact scene is placed within the riotous crowd and people are patting them on the back and he is alone, sitting, not like pumped up, but sitting kind of like.

Just staring at the truck. And then he goes like this. He's sitting there and he's just looking, oh man, all the cologne I could transport across the country. This big rig, oh, this beautiful rig. I think this is, wait, 80, yeah, this is like the heyday of like trucker, not the heyday I guess, maybe,

but like BJ and the Bear kind of. This is past the heyday of that. I guess it is, that's like late 70s I guess. I will say one thing. There's something trucker-y about that era. And I thought he looked great in his trucker costume, I will say that. I think that's what it's called, a trucker costume. I thought he looked great. Hey sly, you gotta great in his trucker costume. I will say that. I think that's what it's called, a trucker costume.

I thought he looked great. Hey Sly, you gotta get in your trucker costume and then get on set, got it. He loves that truck. If there is any kind of eagle, if there's any kind of metal eagle, he's gonna spend a couple, oh Hawk. Hawk, his last name is Hawk.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, or is it? Yeah, because it changes. His name changes in the movie and I actually put together a little montage his name changes It's Hawk Sometimes it's Hawks. Oh Yeah, both I will play you that that I think is really not a good that's bad scripty But if there's a metal Hawk in the movie, he's gonna polish it for at least six minutes

Yeah, cuz it happens a couple times. So this is a little montage of haw a metal hawk in the movie, he's gonna polish it for at least six minutes. Yeah. Because it happens a couple times. So this is a little montage of hawk or hawk. He responds to both. So listen carefully, here we go. And sometimes in the same scene, differently. Again, huh, hogs? How you doing, boy? Better than you.

You hawk? I said, are you hawk? Courtney is going to give him to his father unless Hawks can't support him. Hawks. How the hell can he support him? You hawks? Hawks. Let's go. See you, Hawks.

Hawks. The odds on Lincoln Hawks. Kelly, what are the odds on Hawks? Lincoln Hawks, 20 to 1. 20 to 1, pal. Really long shot. Come here, Hawk. Lincoln Hawks is the new champion! Champion of the world, ladies and gentlemen!

So he wins as Hawk. He was Hawks. He goes back and forth. The odds are 20 to 1 on Hawks. But Lincoln Hawk wins. That's pretty amazing. His name changes. How does that happen? That's lazy. That's really lazy.

It's, and he agrees to every one. You would think like Stallone would be like, actually my name is Hawk. I wrote the script. I'm co-scriptwriter. My name is Hawk because that's the name of my truck. Hawk. Not Hawks.

Like no one checked it. Like that, like how checked out was he that he allowed himself to be called two different names? There was that moment where he was like, hey, like he tried to bring it up. He's like, hey, can I talk? And they were like, we're gonna, gotta get moving. He's like, just forget it, man.

Just forget it. 12 million? 12 million? Okay, let's keep going. We won't fix it. Or maybe it was as soon as he like had a family and had a son, he was like, we're the Hawks. You think it's plural?

I don't know. They have a weird conversation about that, don't they? He's like, when you take over the business, it'll be Hawkins' son. Hawkins' son, but he screws it up and he's like, yeah, Hawkins' son. Like he says something different the first time. What's- Son and hawk. Right, yeah. hawk and son. Like, he says something different the first time. What's...

Son and hawk. Right? Yeah. That won't work. By the way, this kid wants to grow up to be a truck driver. That's the thing. He has a very promising career as a cadet. He wins the money, he wins the truck, spoiler alert, and the kid is like, I want to be with

you, I want to be with you. And he's like, okay, great. And then they're gonna live in a truck together? Is that what I meant to believe? No, he's gonna get the old truck. They're gonna give him the old truck and they're gonna drive side by side. Is this it? Side by side? That's amazing.

I was very upset to see them fall asleep like that in the truck bed. He tells them, he's like, hey, if you get tired in the middle of the night, you can fall asleep on my shoulders. And then he falls asleep fall asleep on my shoulders. And then he falls asleep on the kid's shoulders. Like all cuddled up like a fucking weirdo.

Not cool. Yeah, because that's the thing is like Robert Loja is, if you want vintage Robert Loja guys, do yourselves a favor and watch the pilot episode of Magnum PI. It is two hours long. Robert Loja is the bad guy and maybe 15 minutes of content that is worth it but it's amazing but Loja is the bad guy and he's incredibly rich in this so the kid is gonna inherit all this money or whatever but he wants to like bro out with so Sloan to point where I'm like, why would you do this?

Now you have the money, you can't force this child to live in a truck. You can't be like, you know, but you can't, right? We can't let this happen. You're saying, I see, that Stallone, if he really did want the best for his son, would have said like, you can get the best education. He can't settle down, he's the man of the road. Then leave the kid with loja.

While they are together, the kid is... I'm consulted by bull, kidnapped by thugs. Like, the kid is... Like, Stallone is a terrible father. Well, what... A terrible father. I would argue that he's not even... In the movie.

He's not... In real life, he's kind of a bad guy. In real life that he's not even a- In the movie. He's not, in real life he's kind of a bad guy. In real life he's the best dad ever. And I know that because he's my father. I wanted to get, I feel like, June, this is something that you would catch onto, that his character as a father sometimes is so like, yeah, I'm just trying to do stuff for my son,

and then all of a sudden, like, driving a truck through a mansion. Like, there's no middle ground. He goes from like, I'm so shy, I'm awkward in suspenders, to I'm gonna punch a guy through a wall. Like, there is no, like, he's rage. There is this weird line of like, I just wanna be a good dad, and then he's like,

no, you drive the fuckin' truck. I don't care about other people's lives. Yeah. Well, and what's that? Oh, I'm gonna train in my truck I don't care about other people's lives. Yeah! Well, and what's that? What's that? Oh, I'm gonna train in my truck by driving a tractor trailer and using a handmade sort of rig that he built that has weights on it. Yeah, it's like he built a Nautilus machine in his truck and he's doing the weights.

Are you sure it isn't a Solaflex? Which is predominantly featured on a lot of hand arm wrestlers' shirts. And on Alka-Seltzer is on one other guy's shirt. Alka-Seltzer was really big in the arm wrestling scene. We've got to get it out there. Then they crack open Alka-Seltzer later on. I feel like that was the first time I noticed product placement, like in the 80s, because the guy, Grizzly, screams,

I'm going to drink some oil out of a funnel. He specifically says funnel, drinks motor oil out of the funnel and then the next shot is him cracking open some alka-seltzer be like shouldn't have drank that oil. Shouldn't have drank that valvoline. They didn't even do product placement on valvoline it was just oil. Here's the thing about Stallone's character though I mean you have to remember that he's been sending his son letters for his son's entire life and he's been getting pictures back.

So he isn't working under the assumption, I assume that the son has gotten his letters, maybe doesn't know how to write. You would think at a certain point, because he has such a good relationship with the mom, that he would be like, hey, whatever the moms are, like, Catherine, like, why isn't my kid writing back to the 75 letters I've sent?

And she's like, oh yeah, I'm hiding them. Love the pics, love the pics. Yeah, love the pics. Thanks so much for the pics, but hey, what's up with the kid not writing? I feel like maybe you're squirreling these away in a purse at the bottom of a drawer and not showing them to him. By the way, that purse, where it was hidden, there were a couple purses in that drawer.

Yeah, it was hidden. Don't all ladies have a bottom drawer, purse drawer? It was like hidden in like a makeup vanity, like boudoir sort of structure. Like there's no reason a ton of purses would be in that drawer. Oh, see, I just saw that and I was like, oh, girls in their purses. Every girl's got a vanity with a drawer full of purses would be in that drawer. I just saw that and I was like, and that's really where this movie lost me. Oh, girls in their purses. Every girl's got a vanity with a drawer full of purses. It's a purse drawer. I've never heard of it. Where you store all the purses full of weird stuff.

Yeah, see, I feel like it'd be like that if I went into a girl's room, I'd find like a vanity, I'd open the bottom drawer and it'd be purses full of dildos or something. You know, like that's where girls hide their stuff, right? I understand women. Oh, brother.

What, what if Stallone, what if Stallone and the woman were just like legitimately, like just insane, like they were, like they needed to belong in a mental institution and Robert Lozier got in there and is like, you know what? You need to go over here. I have a question about this. No, let me say one thing.

When the first shot of her, she's very sick, sitting on that upholstered chair in her hospital room, and her hair is cut in a way where it does not look like this is somebody who's suffering and has been through chemotherapy, this looks like in sort of a manic rage, she has taken scissors and cut off all of her hair. Yes, agree.

Right? Yeah, no she looks crazy. Is that what I'm saying? She looks, if she was instead in a mental institution. She has not lost her hair. She has cut it off. I would believe you, yeah.

Okay. No, it's terrible. My question is this, because there is like a tiny glimmer of insight that I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, what's the story here? Where the kid at some point says to Sylvester Stallone, hey, are you still selling drugs? Yes.

And I was like, okay, in my mind, there's a narrative where Stallone and the mom are just fucking druggies. They're selling drugs, they're like cocaine cowboys level maniacs. And they sold. He's hauling meth across the country. Whatever, just like crazy coke,

he's working for the cartels, we all get it. The original Walter White. And then he like bails because of whatever. She raises the kid with Loja the dad and whatnot, and because of all the drug use, she's gonna die because of something. What about this? What about this? The guy, there was a drug cartel and they said, we're gonna kill your family.

And he's like, look, that's too much for me. Oh, I love this movie. You gotta go with your dad. You gotta go with your dad. You gotta go with your dad, I'm gonna be on the run. They'll come after me, they won't come after you. And Rozier's like, I'm gonna pay off this cartel, but you can never see my daughter again. That's a good back story.

I like that. I like, these are all better movies than what happened. Instead, instead he asks Sylvester Stallone, are you still selling drugs? And his reaction is kinda like, I don't When you say selling I really remember selling drugs. I think your grandfather's making that up. Well, here's a weird thing too.

Pumps away. Just keeps on pumping. So the grandfather also gets the court to essentially He gets Stallone to sign a document that says he will not come back to the state. And that document's sign is pretty clear, like he's not seeing his son again. That's settled. Then a few scenes later, he shows backup in Vegas

to say yet again, you're not seeing your son again. It gives him a lot of chances. But like, so but there's a lot of like- And Stallone says, I already signed the paper. I already signed this. Like you're clear, you could have gotten out of here a week ago. Yeah, he's like, get the hell out of here,

I'm trying to win this truck, all right? This time, Loja's also offering him a truck and $500,000. But he's already, like Stallone, if I was Stallone, I would take it. I'm like, yeah, I already signed that contract, I'm free and clear. Because by the way,000. But he's already, like, Stallone, if I was Stallone, I would take it. I'm like, yeah, I already signed that contract. I'm free and clear.

Because, by the way, at the end of the movie, it wasn't like I'm signing this contract unless I win this contest. Like, there was no caveat in it, like, oh, but if you win an arm wrestling contest, this contract's null and void. Like, that was never part of the deal. And also, when that kid escapes,

there's a large period of time where no one seems to be looking for him. Like they give up. They're like, they're all up in like Robert Loge's suite. And this is an era where a kid in a movie can like maybe, what is this kid, 12 years old? 13 years old? Like what? He's 12. 12? I love that somebody was like 12. 12. You don't know he's 12. Jason, he's 12. Come on. He's 12 years old, and we are like, we're cool with him, driving cars, stowing away on airplanes, like, or whatever.

Not even stowing away. He pulls up to an airport, and he's like, and he's like, and he's like, hey, you can't park that car. He's like, yeah, keep it. I'm fucking rich. Keep that. And then, and then, like, he finds the best way to hide is to act like a piece of luggage and he comes out of a luggage carousel and be like, ooh, who packed that boy? Well they had to get- No airport security.

They had to get all the luggage to the arm wrestling contest so he knew he would get there fine. By the way, during the arm wrestling contest, you know, it keeps on going down from like, you know, 500 entry people all the way down to like eight. But throughout that, they're like, and we're down to the final four. And you'll see people who are not in the final four just like, like lifting is like, guys, it's over. Let the dream die.

You've clearly lost. No reason to stretch and do anything. There's only four people in this race anymore. Like, there's down to the final two, and there's a guy like, Grrr! Grrr! But you also have to lose two matches to be eliminated? Oh, yeah. I mean, that's what this movie...

Jason, Jason, Jason. That's what this movie is called. Double elimination. It's like the truck reveal. It should be called the luckiest man in the world. Oh yeah. Jason, I don't know if that was clear enough. That he had to lose too.

Do you, okay, this is- So I compiled how many times they said it in the movie. Here we go. And listen up, here we go. And also just please look at their faces. Here we go. And listen up, here we go. And also just please look at their faces. Here we go. And pretend like they're fun. One reminder, once again, this is a double elimination competition.

You have to lose twice to be out. In other words, if you lose once, you still have one more chance. Okay, let me remind you please, this is a double elimination competition. If you lose twice, you're out. Double elimination competition has lost its first finals match. Remember ladies and gentlemen, please remember, this is a double elimination. Each of these semi-finalists have another chance. You have to lose twice to be out of the competition.

This is a double elimination tournament. Any competitor who loses twice out of the eight who are on these four tables. So there's two more that were just underscoring it and I didn't think you could hear it. So that's like eight times. And even the announcer's like, just so I'm clear with you guys.

I feel like it's ADR lines because people are like, well audiences are telling us that they're confused because we've seen all of these characters lose already. So we're gonna ADR the double elimination thing and constantly just to make sense of this. It seems to me that the only rule is it's a double elimination. Otherwise, headbutting appears to be allowed.

Drinking of motor oil is allowed. These are fights- It seems like, well they also weigh him when he first arrives, so I thought, well there's gonna be some sort of weight class. Like you can only arm wrestle- Nope. No.

And they even say, when he goes against Bull, Bull's got a hundred pounds on him. And I was like, oh, then he's gonna die. No. And they even say, when he goes against Bull, Bull's got 100 pounds on him, and I was like, oh, then he's gonna die. Yeah. If Bull has 100 pounds on Stallone, Bull is going to maim and or murder him. I believe Bull. Well, but here's the weird thing about,

like, when he does lose, he has that one move. That one arm. That must be cheating, right? The hand grows, yeah. Do you notice that the final slow motion shot of him going over the top. Doing the move. He literally goes like, fans it out.

So he's doing it in slow motion and then they also put it in slow motion. And it's also slow motion. So it's super slow and he gets his fingers on top. Neck shot, fingers are on the side. he gets his fingers on top. Neck shot fingers are on the side. His fingers are never on top for that entire fight. By the way, you know what to explain why that,

you would think like when his kid loses an arm wrestling, he's like, hey, you can't lose. Let me give you my trick and explain how he wins an arm wrestling. Nope. No, that doesn't pass it on to- By the way, the kid does it, the kid does it and just knows to do it cause he's seeing slide to it. Instinct. Well, not only that, but it's also like, nope. Now that it doesn't pass it on to me. The kid does it, the kid does it, and just knows to do it,

because he's seeing why you would. Instinct. Well, not only that, but it's also like, I was waiting for this metaphor of going over the top with arm wrestling, and like really going for it, and turning your hat around, to like really, to connect to this relationship

between the father and son. Like, there must be something there that- The movie should have been called, Meet You Halfway. But by the way, they didn't really meet each other halfway. This movie should have been called Pull Your Pants Down Kid, I'm Your Dad.

Pull Your Pants Down Kid, I'm Gonna Suck It. Sponsored by Solo Flex. The best way, did you happen to pull the kid arm wrestling the other kid? You know, it was so long that I didn't know what the best scene I could pull up. Okay, because the best part of it is... My two favorite actors are in that scene, the two cronies. Oh, they're amazing.

There's one guy who's like, Hey man, you gotta get him, man, come on, man, come on. And then the other guy has a comeback. He's like, you really got him? He's like, yeah, you got him. The other guy fucking sucks. You're a wimp. Remember when being called a wimp was awful? It's still pretty awful.

Oh. Look it, that's her haircut. That was your haircut. Yeah? It's a little shaggy. For those of you listening, her haircut is shaggy. Well, I'll pull up that kid arm wrestling scene. Oh, that's the training scene.

Oh my God, I love this movie. There are so many clips to pull. Oh, here we go, here we go. All right, so here, do you want to, we're gonna play this scene. Oh my God, brothers. You want to, all right, here we go. He's a practical joker, sorry.

He's just a shy kid. As a matter of fact, that's so sure I'm willing to put money on it. J, I couldn't beat you if I'd killed myself. This is getting too intense. No, you don't have a chance against this, Pete. You know that. Yes, he does.

10 to one odds. You're one against my 10, fair enough? All right, let's go. 10 to one odds, right here. All right, two out of three times. You should take that off, that's not fair. Raise a whip, you'll take a measly. No gloves allowed.

Don't take clothing off of someone else's child. Look at this, look at this. All right, let's start. Ready, wimp. He feels like a girl. Maybe he is a girl. I'm listening to you. You hear me?

I'm listening to you. Look at him grabbing him like. Look at how tender this is. You're sure? Yeah. Yeah, you know. This is illegal, what he's doing. What is happening? Come on, Mike.

Bring his arm. Get this thing away. Get this thing away. Get this thing away. Get this thing away. Get this thing away. Get this thing away. Get this thing away.

Get this thing away. Get this thing away. Get this thing away. Get this thing away. Get this thing away. Get this thing away. Get this thing away. Get this thing away.

Get this thing away. Get this thing away. Get this thing away. Get this thing away. Get this thing away. Get this thing away. Get this thing away. Get this thing away. Get this thing away. next one? Yes, I don't have enough passports right now. I want you to watch this next one as if it's a sex scene.

Okay? I just want to put that in your heads, okay? As if Stallone is watching a sex scene. By the way, the arm wrestling faces. But you said he was strong. Well, my boy was just feeling generous. Now it's time to go to work, am I? He's a pimp! He's a pimp!

It's time to go to work, kid. Yeah. This kid really think he can take me. I don't think so. What a joke. It's the table time. Smash him, Richie. This is gonna hurt, wimp.

What do you think of that? I think your breath stinks. Yo! Come on, Mike. Come on. That's good, Mike. Come on, Mike. Come on.

Pull him, drop the weight. Hold him tight, Mike. Come on, Mike. Puppy kick, puppy kick. You got him, Mike. You got him, you got him, you got him, you got him. Come on, Mike. Come on, Mike. Puppet kid. Puppet kid. You got him, Mike. You got him, you got him, you got him, you got him. A little more. You got him, you got him, you got him, you got him.

All right, way to go. Come on, one more time. Let's go, Mike. Right away. Let's go. Right away, right away. Break your arm, Tom. Get mad, get mad.

Ready? Puppet kid. Come on, Mike. Listen to where I'm saying, puppet kid. Puppet kid. Over the top. Puppet kid. Puppet kid.

Puppet kid. Puppet kid. Puppet kid, get mad. Ready? Pump it, kid. Come on. Listen to where I'm gonna say, pump it. Pump it, Mike. Over the top. Pump it. Pump it. Pump it.

The power of Mike. The power of Mike. No! No! No! No! All right, way to go. You're a tough little sucker, aren't you?

That was great. That was great. Pay up now. Money has been spent. Look at that. Make some pay up. I mean, come on! Please, so much, like this,

if you edited the trailer, you could make this boy's life. Like it could be like an abusive dad relationship. You could really cut a good trailer. Oh, pump it, kid, pump it! Pump it, kid! What? No!

Don't shout pump it, kid, to your son. When I was a kid... Yes. When I was a kid, this is a true story. When I was a kid, I was hanging out with three of my buddies in front of a photo mat, and... Oh, shit. I'm fucking...

It comes up, and his... Pull pulls up with his dad and was like you were making fun of my son he's gonna kick the shit out of you. And his dad sat there while we all tried to fight his son. And at one point his son was losing and he kicked my friend Eric. And like, I remember then being like, that's not right. That's not right.

That is not right. Just for legal purposes that allegedly happened. Yeah, exactly. Let's not okay. That is not right. Just for legal purposes, that allegedly happened. Yeah, exactly. Let's just also say that Eric was probably wearing an illegal glove, you know, so you could kick a kid if he's wearing the wrong fighting gear. But it's, you don't go, you don't touch kids anymore. No. You also don't ask them to fight each other.

Yes. But imagine, like, imagine pitching this now, Like, yeah, so then there's a scene where they go into the diner and he, you know, Stallone sees a bunch of kids and he's like, yeah, fight these kids. No one would ever go like, wait, wait, wait, what happens in this movie? Those menacing, badass kids.

One guy does not have a forehead. He looks like the dude from Christmas Story. He's got the hair, but he says, I should kill this guy, right? And he goes, I should kill this guy, right? And he goes, I don't know, man. That's his one contribution as a crony. By the way, it's arm wrestling. He doesn't have any personal interest in this kid

about all the, don't kill him. Like, why? Well, because- You were just playing Super Mario Brothers a second ago. Not even Super Mario Brothers, just Mario Brothers. And the thing is, like, everybody, it's as if this movie exists in a world

in which everybody cannot wait to arm wrestle. A world in which everybody... Are you okay, ma'am? Are you okay? She's going over the top. She just went like this. Yeah. Which is very unsettling for me. It's with everybody is just like,

seconds away, seconds away. Ready to jump off an arm wrestle. Like that's how it's gonna go down. Yeah, that is the feeling. Like people are having conversations and you can see in their eyes, like it's only a matter of time. Did you have a moment though in the montage

when they go towards the end of like, of all the arm wrestlers and then all of a sudden it cuts to like one like kinda hot lady with like a headband. She's cracking her finger. I don't know why but like I gasped. I was like, I don't know why. Well they made a big deal too out of

that there is a ladies bracket, but we never really see it. No, you did the first shot of it. The first time you see the woman, she's like, boom, and then that ends our women's final. Like, it was like, wait, we didn't even see it. I bet the director's cut has like an hour of lady female arm wrestling. Just topless.

And if it doesn't, I'm shooting it later, so talk to me, ladies. The one shot of the guy whose arm actually pops out. Oh yeah. Like just randomly, they were like, hey, that guy's fucking arm broke. We should throw that in the movie. Tape it, tape it.

But it's like, this movie is so clear. It was like, we need a movie that has like more sweat than Rocky and as much drama as Rambo. It's like, they just like, it's kind of cramped. And there's a competition that anybody can do because we'll ignite an arm wrestling craze across the country.

I had the over-the-top arm wrestling toy. The over-the-top toy was just like a little platform with a red and blue, like, elbow holder, and you would just arm wrestle. Was there an arm? What? Was there an arm on it? No, no, no, you'd have to get a friend. You'd have to have a friend.

Or an adult man. Adult man not included. Edophile not included. I love the part, like it gets to the finals when he's getting to the finals and you go, and now we're bringing out our referees. And there's like 15 of them. It's arm wrestling.

How many, be like, how many? There's more reps in this scene than they're on a major league baseball game. There's like two feet of coverage. It's like, what, it touches or it doesn't? That's it. Meanwhile, when he headbutts them, that's not illegal.

That's really fine. We're leading to this point where, you know, they meet each other halfway and he shows up at the wrestling contest. We're really pushing this as an alternate title. Mike shows up, the young son, and what's so weird about it is it feels like he really wanted to know for sure

that the dad sent those letters, that Sylvester Stallone sent those letters. But through the rest of the movie, before that, he never seems to doubt it, or even mention like, I don't think you did, dad. And then the climax of the movie is him finding the letters and then getting to Vegas. But he read the letters, like, but basically he's like, oh, you did write letters. Now I love you. You're the best. Like, that's it. Like the 10 years doesn't matter. Or the fact that you made me miss

my mom's death while bro-ing out with me. That's the thing. To be fair. The movie is basically predicated on the fact that because father and son needed some bro-down time, the kid missed the mom's life. And he's really not upset about it when he's like, the one woman tells the doctor

and the doctor's like, I'll handle this, I'm a doctor. This is, oh good, good, good. You wanna see how Stallone takes his wife dead. This reaction is pretty shitty. This whole thing is pretty awesome. Okay, here we go. Mr. Haunt? Haunt.

I'm sorry, your wife died this afternoon in the operating room. Oh man. Oh shoot, my wife died this afternoon in the operating room. Oh, man. Whoa. Oh, shoot. My wife died. Uh, uh, uh. Oh, now I got to tell this kid. Uh.

Worst cock block ever. Oh, god. This kid runs away at he's in a sign of trouble all the time. There's so much runaway. But his pants never fall down because he's got suspenders. I like that he's dressed up and he's like, hey look, when I'm out on the road with you, not wearing suspenders. Pick you up from school, suspenders on. Go visit my crazy wife who's dying of cancer, suspenders go on. Those are dress suspenders.

By the way, they're still married? Officially? Okay. that my crazy wife who's dying of cancer suspenders go on. These are class of dudes. Those are dress suspenders. Anyway, they're still married? Officially? Okay. People said, yeah. The audience is like invested in it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They don't know.

Of course, June. Of course, June, we're the audience. We know that they're still married. Oh my, I also wanted to just play the quick scene of why Stallone turns the hat. Oh shit. Okay, well inexplicably, at this point in the movie... It just becomes a documentary?

It becomes documentary footage. There is like footage of what's Bull and Hawk that is like... It turns into the office. They're just talking to camera in a candid, like, confessional moment. Mindy Kaling wrote this bit. That... That's why I love, like, Stallone is a good actor because there's one scene, like,

he's nervous in front of the camera. So, like, the first time, they're like, why do you want to win? He's like, um... Uh... How do I light the truck? You know, he's, like, so, like, shy. He's like, yeah, acting. Uh, but here he's getting a little bit more familiar

with the camera, so he's a little bit less. Here we go, uh, here we go. Stallone, why does he flip his hat? What I do is I just try to take my hat and I turn it around and it's like a switch that goes on. And when the switch goes on, I feel like another person I feel Who's editing this footage?

I feel like a... like a truck, like a machine You know that was improvised You know that was improvised You can see it in his eyes You know that moment I know I gotta say machine But there's a fucking machine right behind me

I wanna point to that machine, cause that's like me. You guys see what I just did? He's so proud of himself. He's so psyched that he's like that machine. That's why he's staring at that machine. He's in love with it. Cause he is it, like real steel.

He is a robot. He loves the machine more than he loves anybody in this movie. I'm obsessed with the arm wrestling arm cozy. Oh my God. That he wears throughout the arm wrestling scenario. It's just kind of on his elbow area. And it is oftentimes on and off and on and off.

It's like, there was absolutely no continuity and no script supervisor in this. No continuity whatsoever, but then when he says, Cutler's upstairs, he wants to talk to you, he's like, hey, how long do I have before I fight? 30 minutes. He's like, okay, well, I have time. Yeah. Like, they really took the time to make sure the audience knew

that he's got at least 25 minutes, he's got 30 minutes, or he has to win an arm wrestling competition. They're not going to abuse these guys. Yeah, they're going to arm wrestle. Yeah, they're gonna get tired. They're gonna get a break, a nice break. And there's a guy back there with a big back massager who'll just do it like, just sitting there getting his back massaged by a guy.

Yeah, there's a whole triage area. And then the doctor's touching his biceps, like, yeah, yeah, that's good. Okay, yeah, yeah, you're good. You're good to go. We haven't brought up- What are you touching with your finger in the bicep? Yeah, that biceps together. There's no tear there.

Yep, yep. No, this feels like, you know what this feels like? It feels like a man's arm. Okay. So, you're good to go. We haven't brought up the fact that before arm wrestling matches, your trainer slaps you in the fucking face as hard as he can. Never in time. Over and over and over again. Everybody who is in this movie, they were like, okay,

if you are a big, beefy guy with a giant beard, you're in. Great news. One caveat. You got the part. A fat slob is gonna slap you in the face a bunch. So that's part of the movie. Ooh, but is it gonna make you wanna win arm wrestling?

None of these guys were training effectively because one guy eats a full cigar, a lit full cigar before the arm wrestling, which gotta hurt. Like no matter how much, he's like, he just sucks it down and then wins. You know, he's a good arm wrestler. And there's the guy that drinks the Valvoline.

Same guy. Oh, it's the same guy. Oh my God. That had to happen. Grizzly? Grizzly? Are you telling me Grizzly ate a cigar and drank motor oil? Yeah, bro. That's why he did it at Alka-Seltzer.

Oh boy. I bet that was his idea. Hey, get me an edible cigar. What? Just give him a regular cigar. Hey, I wanna do something nice with the good people at Alka-Seltzer. That had to be written.

That had to be like somebody from Alka-Seltzer was like, we got it. Somebody's gonna drink motor oil. They were like, we know the guy, his name's Grizzly. And now people try to go to Alka Seltzer all the time, like, no, we got burned on over the top, we're not doing this again. Just so you know, another little fact about the movie,

John Wheaton, the lead singer of the rock group Asia, originally sang Winner Takes It All for the movie, but after performing the song, Stallone said his voice wasn't mean enough, so they switched him out with Sammy Hagar. Amazing. And Stallone joined in too. He did?

Really? Yes, that is. That's awesome. Yeah. I just got super pumped. Stallone's like, I got this, I got this. Asia, you're a bunch of pussies. Me and Sammy Hagar are gonna take the reins of this song.

I feel like there's a lot of stuff to talk about, but I feel like maybe the audience has some questions. I want to go out to the audience and see if you have some questions. Raise your hands, and I'm gonna come to you and we'll see if we missed anything. You're applauding. You don't even know the questions yet. All right.

Your name, your favorite Stallone movie, and your question. Go ahead. Uh, Andre's favorite Stallone movie, and your question, go ahead. Andre's favorite Stallone movie's gotta be Over the Top. I wanna know why the main bad guy, he lost, he's been winning five years in a row. So that means the prize is $100,000 each year maybe, and a truck each year maybe.

So he should have five trucks and at least $500,000. That is a very good point. But wait, is your question why is he still in it? Because he hasn't beat Lincoln Hawk. No, but he doesn't know about him. When they're announcing everybody's where they're from, they're like, that guy, he's from the main division. Hawk is from the amateur underground.

Hawk is from the trucker division. Yes. And somehow he's an unknown, but yet this guy goes to like random diners to scout him. To find him. So he's definitely a 20 to one with really low odds for the champion of the sport. I gotta go get this guy.

And Bull shows up and is like, when he holds the kid's hand in that bar, and is like, let's just get this over with now. Let's not wait till Vegas. It's like there is an implied mystery. But to that point, perhaps he doesn't want to wait till Vegas, because he's like, I won this shit. I don't want to pay insurance on another fucking truck. He talks about how winning number one is his only thing in life and being number two sucks. to Vegas because he's like I won this shit. I don't want to pay insurance on another fucking truck.

He talks about how winning number one is his only thing in life and being number two sucks and there's no but then he headbutts the loan but then when he loses he's like okay and he raises the loan. He did see, I noticed that too, he seemed to take it rather well. Well you know what I have a theory on that. Their hands were tied together so Thelon and his victory had to pull up his hand. It was like a puppety. He took the initiative. He takes the initiative. He's like, alright, he's the winner.

I will say, look, after you make your first $500,000, things go away. I'm going to go over here. What's your name, your favorite part of this movie, and your question? My name is Gabby, and my favorite part of this movie is probably the music and the amazing ballads, but I just have to mention that the sun's name is Mike Hawk. Standing ovation. Standing ovation. Standing ovation. I would also like to point out that his name... Can I get my picture with her real quick? His name also might be Mike Hawks.

So, yes, your name, your favorite Stallone moment in this film, or Robert Loja moment in your question. My name is Julia. My favorite moment is the montage where they're working out against the truck. The backlit montage. That looks like a great workout, that truck workout. It's a machine. It's a machine, okay? My question is, so in the scene that you showed earlier

where he's arm wrestling the kid, the kid says, kid, if I lost to you, I'd kill myself. And then loses to him, so do you think that kid killed himself? Yes, I do. I do too. That would, what would be amazing

is if you found that actor and did a movie now that was about his character having been trying to kill himself for years. I also like the fact... It started with that scene and it just followed him home. And all he does is try and kill himself over and over and over again. I like Groundhog Day.

Your name, how would you appeal to your son if you hadn't seen him in 10 years, and your question? One line that you would say to your son when you picked him up from military school. Here you go. My name's Bobby. I would say, what's the long say? I would say, you have to win,

but then you can lose as long as you lose like a winner. All right, good. I like it. You took it from the film. I like it. My question is, if anyone noticed that Robert Loge's goon was also the really crazy high-head bouncer from Roadhouse. I took it from the film, I like it. My question is, if anyone noticed that Robert Loja's goon was also the really crazy high head bouncer from Roadhouse. Yep, it is. With the exact same facial hair and the exact same perm.

It was like, exact same. The guy that gets fired. Yeah. Well that's how he got there, had to end it up. He worked for another old man. These are just beefy dudes who work for old men who intimidate very strong men. Like Robert Loja and who's that?

And then they got Ben Guzzara. They're like, oh, we got to intimidate a nice, really well-fit 30-year-old. We need goons. And then his only job is to talk tough and then get his ass kicked, you know, in like one moment where he gets... Stallone throws him through a door

so with so much ease. And the door explodes. That's not. Like the wood implodes into like splinters. That's not Terry Funk, right? Terry Funk's in this, but is that him? I don't know. I don't know the actor's name.

Someone says that is Terry Funk. It is Terry Funk. Hey, you're Terry Funk. Oh! What if it was Terry Funk? What's going on? What if Terry Funk be like, brrrr? All right. What if it was Terry Funk? What's going on? What if Terry Funk be like, brrr? All right.

What if it was Tom Galtz's dad? Terry Funk is here. If Terry Funk is here, that would be amazing. If you bring Terry Funk to a live, how did this get made? You both get in free. Your name, why you think the mom didn't show the letters to her son, and your question.

Here we go. Hi, my name is Leanne, and I have to go with June's theory that she's just bananas crazy. And this really isn't a question, it's just from earlier. The movie that beat this in the box office was Platoon, number one. Nice. Ah.

Look at that coming well researched. Did you know that? Or did you, I hope Leanne just knew that. Who has a really good question? Put two hands up. You have a really good question. Oh this guy immediately. Beards. Both two guys with beards. Two hands up. Let's see. Take their questions first. They're cool. These guys are former arm wrestlers. All right. Your name? Would you be called if you were an arm wrestler? And your question. Oh, man, this is a lot of pressure for my question now. I'm Rob. My name would probably be The Beard. Okay, Mike.

Taken. I already took it. I was always confused because they introduced Bull as having been undefeated. But it seems like, and I'm not sure, that the match, they're double elimination? Right. Okay, so doesn't Bull only lose once? I had that theory too. I think the double elimination only exists

until you're in the finals. Finals all bets are off, and it is single elimination. But wouldn't Stallone have to beat him twice? That's what I thought, but I think when you're in the finals, the finals. The double elimination is only until the finals. It gets you to the finals. In my mind now, Stallone and Bull have both lost once.

Yeah, that's right, but now we're in the finals. No, Bull hasn't lost before the finals. Yeah. What? It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter in the finals? Says somebody very boldly, but does not know. All right.

It's very unexplained. Here we go, this is your name. You also have a beard, so what would be your arm wrestling name and your question? My name is Peter. Presumably my name would be something like Junkyard Muldoon or one of these sort of generic tough guy names. He's thought of this.

He's thought of this. Yeah, that can wait out way too quick. Well, I had time between me and the other beard. Junkyard Muldoon. If he asks, I'm going to say Junkyard Muldoon. I'm going to say Junkyard McGillicuddy. No, man, you should say Junkyard Muldoon. I like Junkyard Muldoon.

That's pretty sweet. Also a character in Platoon. Here we go. It also looks like in that same hotel, there's some sort of trade show going on. You mean the Hilton. Because when they're looking for the kid. The Duracell battery? The two henchmen are looking at an abandoned

Duracell battery display. I thought about that. I thought that Duracell was just getting into a very niche market. Yup. They're like, guys, we need to send some reps out to the Hilton. These arm wrestlers, they're driving their trucks, they're listening to their walkmans. They need Duracells in there. That's what I thought. I thought that too, yeah.

Alright, we have time for one more question. One more good question. It better be fucking good. Here we go. Your name and your question. That's that. I'm having give you a middle question here you go Okay, my name is Natalie and my question is where does Stallone get all the t-shirts that he changes in the final wrestling scene? And it culminates and it culminates in a boat neck New York t-shirt like a baby tea Boat Neck or is it more of a scoop neck? He seemingly has no affiliation to New York.

Dude seems really shocked by this. I wish you could see the look on her face. You're right, he changes probably like seven times. He also lets his kid drive a truck. When the kids say, by the way, we didn't even talk about that scene, the kid's like, you know, you're a truck driver. You're not even smarter than a 13-year-old. And he's like, drive the truck.

What does that prove? Like, well, how does that prove my intelligence? He's like, I can drive a truck. I'm super smart. And you know what? The kid does. It's not even like... The kid has trouble for about two and a half seconds.

It's not even like the kid can't do it. And he's like, see? Not so smart. And he's like, I'm not even smart. And he's like, I'm not even smart. And he's like, I'm not even smart. And he's like, I'm not even smart. And he's like, I'm not even smart. And he's like, I'm not even smart. And he's does. It's not even like... The kid has trouble for about two and a half seconds. It's not even like the kid can't do it. And he's like, see? Not so dumb after all.

The kid masters it almost instantly. Yeah, and then he's like, open her up, man. The kid should be like, see? This isn't so easy. You fucking dummy. Oh, by the way, that truck is kind of magical because when the kid does get kidnapped, he jumps, you know, Stallone jumps into his fucking semi truck and immediately gets it up to speed

to go into a high-speed car chase. Also, what's... Like, that doesn't happen. Wasn't he towing something at that point? I think he dropped a load. We didn't see that. He did? What? You heard me. He dropped a load. Oh, him and the kid?

Yeah. They dropped a load? Yeah. him and the kid? Yeah. They dropped a load? Together? By the way, another bad fathering example, he slams that other car. His kid is inside of it. Yeah. He runs a truck off the road with his son in it.

And then pretty much leaves the truck behind. Yeah. And his son, by the way, is like a mile ahead in a truck going, Dad! Dad! And then he's, I believe he says he's coming. Like the guys are like, Yeah, we know he's chasing us.

How about this? This is crazy. When he first picks the kid up, the scene where the kid tries to run away from him and it's like, it's like, it's like Frogger into traffic. Cut to a grown man in traffic. Across, and the kid causes like a pile up. Like cars like,

ahhhh! Pshh! Like craziness, and they're like, get back in the truck. No, that's not his reaction. His reaction is a chest hold from behind, up against a light pole,

while he slowly backs up towards the light pole, so that he can hold his son and calm him down. Right, while some people are dying. While people are dying. 10 feet away. up towards the light pole so that he can hold his son and calm him down. Right. While people are dying. I'm sorry. While people are dying. 10 feet away. Obviously, we had some opinions about this movie, but there are some people who think

differently. These are five star reviews, cold from Amazon. It's time for a second opinion. Okay, these are pretty great. All right, I don't even know where to, okay. Oh man, all right, here we go. All right, I just gotta find the best way to start because they're so long. Okay, let's try this one.

I have to admit, I still cry every time I see the scene where Mike loses the arm wrestling match at the truck stop pinball machine. I'm embarrassed to admit that I had three broken noses from reenacting the final scene of the movie with my brother John. What a scene. Wait, three broken noses, so three different times they tried to reenact that scene.

This was a three-nosed boy that wrote this. Hawk was facing elimination and pulls through the beat bowl while Jason Cutler looks on and finally realizes that Hawk is a super dad. By the way, it's Michael Cutler. Wait, Jason Cutler? It's Michael Cutler. Unless that's Robert Loge. Oh, that's Robert Loler. Yeah. Jason Cutler? It's Michael Cutler.

Unless that's Robert Loge. That's Robert Loge's character. Oh, okay. Thank you. I still resent John to this day for always being bull and making me be Hawk every time. He would always trick me. He's now talking about his brother. He would always trick me and tell me, but Bri, you get to be Hawk.

You win the truck. If I had to do it again. I'd still be Lincoln Hawk I Recommend this movie to anyone who's an arm wrestler Or safe or a friend of an arm wrestler Which is basically all of us. Which is basically everyone. Which is just an arm wrestler and the dude who slaps that dude in the face. Brian Sequeira, five stars. Mike265 writes, I'm 22 years old now and I was 10 when the movie came out.

When it came out on video I watched it over and over and over again. Nevertheless the tape got worn out and I have not had a chance to buy a new copy. But I will. You know? Hey Mike, Mike 265, it's available on Netflix. Yeah. Also, that means he wrote this in 1999. Yeah, this is an old one.

It's also possible that when he was registering at Amazon, he was like, Mike, wait, that's taken? Mike one, huh, Mike two, weird, Mike 3, wait, Mike 199, oh, come on, wait a minute here, Mike 256, wait, really? It gets better. It goes, I will let you know that I've also went through some of the things that Lincoln Hawk went through

with his son Mike with my daughter in New York I will let you know that I've also went through some of the things that Lincoln Hawk went through with his son Mike, with my daughter in New York and I in California to better myself. Having trouble with the mother not letting me talk to her or my family see her, but I still send her birthday slash Christmas slash Easter presents to her anyway because it makes me feel closer to her and the movie, Mike. This is bumming me out.

Wait. He sends her the presents because it makes him feel closer to the movie? Yes. Makes me feel closer to her and the movie? I'm going to send her this Easter present because fuck it, I gotta feel close to her on the top right now. By the way, not the three big holidays, birthday, Christmas, and Easter. Like birthday, Christmas, big, Easter's kind of a...

Yeah, I wouldn't say Britney. Britney B writes, I bought this DVD for my boyfriend who arm wrestles professionally. What? Wow. Before I dated him, I didn't even know a thing existed. Anyway, I got it for him for his birthday,

and he kept dropping subtle hints of wanting the movie on DVD because his VHS version had seen better days. Wait, is she dating the guy from the first response who wore out the TV? Is she dating Mike? Maybe people who just loved his movie only own VHS machines in their trucks.

Um... It's impossible to find anywhere. Yeah, it is. You can't... By the way, it's really hard to find anywhere. Yeah, it is. By the way, it's really hard to find over the top. I spent the last four days looking for it. Oh my God. It's on Amazon.

You can't find it like in the store anymore. It's on Netflix. Is it on Netflix? I'm just stupid. Next week's watching, guys. Upon receiving his gift, you would have thought I had given him the world. He bragged about this gift to all of his friends

and fellow arm wrestling acquaintances. He's not ready to call those guys friends. He said, he said, the quality of the DVD was excellent. The only complaint he had was there were no special features other than the original movie trailer. And for that, he beats me mercilessly. Britney B, five fucking stars. Holy shit, there's some serious emotions going on in here.

This movie brings up a lot of emotions for people. Would you guys recommend seeing this on Netflix or Amazon? A hundred percent. Yeah. It's pretty great. It's a lesser known Stallone. It's funny because you'll never see a movie structured this way either because it really is like the first 20 minutes is like just a father-son road pick and then the last 70 are just arm wrestling. And they become a dime.

Also a movie they can't make anymore. No, yeah, you could never make this movie. You can't make a movie like where you take a kid somewhere and make him watch you wrestle men. Yeah. You've tried. You've tried. I've tried. It's impossible. I want a fucking truck though.

I would actually love, like, it would be like, you know how Stallone is doing the sequels to everything now? I would love to see this movie now like 20 years later. It is Sun and Hawk or Hawk and Sun, whatever they decided on. And Michael, Michael is an arm wrestling amateur. He's like rising through the ranks. I just want the movie to be called Over the Tippy Top, real bad. Ah! Just really bad. He's got a kid too, and now the baby's gonna arm wrestle too.

He's on the baby arm wrestling, like, meh! Just a little tiny baby crib, and he's just fucking pumping. The baby can't ever, can't ever actually hold something. What if he had a baby that had no fingers? Oh shit. Oh shit.

A little rabbit, he only has hands. Probably give it up for adoption. Kid can't do it. Yeah, he would just leave. He would just leave and then somebody else in his life would die and he would show up late to their funeral. Bull is sitting in his palatial half a million dollar house.

We must get Hawke's son, grandson. Yeah, truly, I hope Bull's not driving trucks anymore. There was one version, because I was listening closely, but there's the truckers, there's the teamsters. Bull may have been like a lawyer for all we know. Oh. The strongest lawyer. Yep.

I'm going to win this case! Raaah! Ripping law books in the head. And representing the defendant, Bult Goldstein. You get that? Your Honor, Raaah!

Take this stand and I'll bash your fucking head into it! I own you! I'm gonna rip your fucking arm off! The defense rests. One of the only does child custody cases. He only does child custody cases now. Well, guys, you have been a great audience. Thank you, Subculture New York.

Thank you, everybody that's here. Thank you to Bobby Moyer and... Oh, thank you. Thank you to Bobby Moyer and... Oh, thank you.