How Did This Get Made? - Rad LIVE! (HDTGM Matinee)

Episode Date: March 17, 2026

Go balls out with Paul, June, and Jason as they break down the cult classic 1986 BMX racing movie Rad. LIVE from Onion Fest in Chicago, they cover the ass sliding, bike dancing, the fashion of the twi...ns, and so much more. Plus, stay tuned at the end for some extra amazing 2nd Opinions theme songs! (Ep. #191 Originally Released 06/21/2018) • Go to hdtgm.com for tour dates, merch, FAQs, and more• Have a Last Looks correction or omission? Call 619-PAULASK to leave us a voicemail!• Submit your Last Looks theme song to us here• Join the HDTGM conversation on Discord: discord.gg/hdtgm• Buy merch at howdidthisgetmade.dashery.com/• Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of Trauma• Shop our new hat collection at podswag.com• Paul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheer• Paul’s YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheer• Follow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer• Subscribe to Enter The Dark Web w/ Paul & Rob Huebel: youtube.com/@enterthedarkweb• Listen to Unspooled with Paul & Amy Nicholson: unspooledpodcast.com• Listen to The Deep Dive with June & Jessica St. Clair: thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcast• Instagram: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & @junediane• Twitter: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & msjunediane  • Jason is not on social media• Episode transcripts available at how-did-this-get-made.simplecast.com/episodesGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Ass sliding, hell tracks, and bike bogeying. We saw rad, so you know what that means. How did it? Schwarzenegger Grove baby in his belly, rock a rindstone vest while ripping just into Kelly, or maybe see a burlash show with Nick Crowe, and take a boat with speed who hitting cruise control. J-man, Big Paul in the beautiful June, gonna take you from the goob all the way to the room. Ran the games in Street Fly that helped to blow off steam, just a sucker punch the odd life of Timothy Green. Burdemic how we stand in the lock
Starting point is 00:00:38 They call it in the badass and he's on the line Cranking 88 minutes because they cool as ice Cause a bad Jim Barney looking kind and nice Paul and June getting literal Jason is getting laid June is making sure all the monkey shots getting paid They judge a bunch of movies while they're making the grade Here's a real question for you how to this get made We are live in Chicago
Starting point is 00:01:16 With a fucking electric audience They only make one noise and it's that. So laughter, it will just be, if we say something offensive, it will just be, get used to it. Ride the volume controls if you're listening at home. Tonight, we are talking about a crime. And the crime that we are talking about
Starting point is 00:01:49 is the fact that this movie has never been released in a format that you can get We're going to get into all this and more, but tonight we need to introduce my co-host. Please welcome Jason Manzoukis. What's up, Jack? We do in Chicago. Wow.
Starting point is 00:02:34 I'm not going to lie, that's fun. Yeah. This is an amazing, an amazing crowd. Jason, um, rad, did you see it in theaters? I am the age that would make sense. Did it come out in theaters? It did come out. Mountain Theater. Okay, I didn't see it. It made hundreds of dollars. I didn't see it. I
Starting point is 00:02:54 I saw the BMX movie that Nicole Kidman was in. Oh, what was that? What is that? What is it? BMX bandits. Thank you. Okay. Oh, if you want to see a, guys, lights down, give me the screen. We're just going to play that for the next two hours. I would straight up watch a back-to-back set of movies with you fucking maniacs of BMX bandits and rad again just so you could get a taste of teenage Nicole Kidman BMX bike racing
Starting point is 00:03:32 just quickly which is better which is better hmm rad I'll be honest this movie was awesome this movie has been we've been told I've been
Starting point is 00:03:49 sent gift packages I've been sent T-shirts to do this movie Wait, what? Yeah. You've been sent gift packages? Yeah, like that is, I have a shirt that says rad racing like this. Oh, that's cool. I got sent DVDs.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Wait, you didn't get sent three? Look, they know who opens the mail, so. We did all get DVDs, but numerous times over the year, this movie has come up. I'm so glad that we waited until tonight to talk about it, because, again, it's impossible to find. but here's someone who also in her youth was a BMX bicycle bandit sponsored by Coca-Cola my other co-host
Starting point is 00:04:34 June Diane Ravio welcome June Hi Paul about this movie and sometimes Paul will tell me it's on iTunes or it's you're going to find it on Amazon or Hulu
Starting point is 00:05:26 and I've noticed now there's a pattern there's something very bad is about to come when it's been loaded onto my computer and is like a quick player file and I feel like it's from somewhere, I don't know where it came from. But that's how I viewed this movie. Yeah. I sent June a Dropbox link,
Starting point is 00:05:50 then went into her computer, downloaded the Dropbox link, and then put it on your main screen. And it will remain on the main screen on your computer. Oh, forever. Forever. That's not going anywhere.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Any time soon. As every document that you've ever written, it's still there. Yeah, all on the main screen. I'd love it if every time I get an email from you from now on, in a tiny window on screen, Rad is just playing. And you're like, how do I turn this off? It's just in a loop? From the moment, from the moment that first bike flew into frame.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Yeah. I felt so upset. You knew you were in the presence of greatness? I did not like this motion picture. No, it's not the first bicycle movie we've done. Right? There was another cross-country biking, special sport biking. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:06:54 I think it might be the first bicycle movie that we have done. There's the... We have done movies of hackers. There's the roller skates in solar babies. Yeah. There's a... I kind of... skateboarding.
Starting point is 00:07:05 There was like a competitive X game biking. Triple X. Sort of. Sort of. Yeah. I mean, that's where they graduate, too. Of course, the balcony knows triple X.
Starting point is 00:07:17 I want a big shout out to Vin Diesel for buying a ticket tonight. You're a good guy up there and getting the word out. Well, June, you are the perfect person to talk to about this movie because I feel like
Starting point is 00:07:37 this movie, people 91% of Rotten Tomatoes. this movie. 91%. I would argue, too low. No, no, no, no, no, no. Too low, I say. Those are joke ratings.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Those aren't real. 91 on the audience, on critical, zero. Zero. It's the largest discrepancy between critical and audience reception in the entire database. That's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:08:11 We got to get these critics out of here, and we got to get the people reviewing all movies. And we need to give BMX to all the kids now. I mean, I want to start at the beginning. What does BMX mean? What is that? Such a good question. What is it? What does it mean?
Starting point is 00:08:35 You know what? Let's try and crack this. I'm going to say it's bicycle. Yeah, bicycle. Motor cross. Where's the motor? Where's the motor? B. M.
Starting point is 00:08:46 What's the motor? Where is it? Oh, I think it's because it's motorcross, which is a motorcycle event with bicycle, so they just put the B on the front of it. So bicycle motorcross. But you don't go to MX. Right. You're not like, oh, are you going to go to the MX races this week?
Starting point is 00:09:05 No, man, I can't go. I have jury duty. What? But weren't you, didn't you commit a felony? a number of years ago. You can't be a juror. They don't know that, brother. Hang with me, guys. This is a long story. I mean, yeah. I mean, it doesn't, BMX stands for here. I'm looking online. And you're right, bicycle motorcross or bicycle, you know, it's a form of cycling. A motocross or motor cross. Okay. It's a form of cycling, especially designed for bicycles,
Starting point is 00:09:39 which usually have an 18 to 24 inch wheels, and the sport includes racing on earthen tracks, known as BMX racing. Okay. And, yes. So, from what I understand. I don't know if that's 100% right as the person who wrote that had a gerbil as their identifier.
Starting point is 00:10:00 So this is where I guess I got confused. Have these bicycles specifically been created to ride off-road? Or have they been created to just do these types of? types of races and tricks. Well, you didn't have a BMX bike growing up and that wasn't a thing growing up? I've heard of them before.
Starting point is 00:10:16 It was quite possibly the most important thing I wanted to own. Yeah, was a BMX bike. I did a paper route for years to save up money to buy a mongoose bike that I didn't get. I ended up, oh no, I wanted it, I'm sorry, I wanted a GT bike there in this,
Starting point is 00:10:37 but I got the mongoose because it was cheaper. I got a mongoose too. I was very excited about the mongoose. And I got a mongoose scooter in addition. Whoa. Yeah. Fuck, dude.
Starting point is 00:10:51 I was just popping. By the way, BMX stunts. This whole movie is directed by a stuntman, Hal Needham, who's known for like every great thing, like Smoky and the Bandit and... Is the Needham family here? It was such a localized few numbers.
Starting point is 00:11:09 of people, that it is quite possible his extended family is here. If you are the children of Hal Needham, please stand up and take credit for his work, especially Smoky and the Bandit and Hooper. Highest paid stuntman ever. But
Starting point is 00:11:25 stunts in BMX, I will say I was not impressed by a lot of the stunts. I would say this. I felt like the, and the racing was tepid at best. I feel like I saw way more bike dancing.
Starting point is 00:11:39 That's, yes. Then bike riding. And I was going to say, I thought the bike dancing was electric. Most importantly, at the townwide dance? It seemed like it was a prom that everyone went to. People were, people were like asking like a girl to the prom, the type of thing. But then at the dance, there were like grownups just, hanging around drinking.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Secret drinking. And then the BMX kids show up too. There's a lot of issues. We'll get into that bike dance thing. That bike dance thing, I rebound and watched again. We got it all. Because I was so flummoxed by the dance.
Starting point is 00:12:25 And then it transforms magically when the bicyclists come in and dance on bikes. Guys, I found it very romantic. That, by the way, that's the takeaway from the movie. Come for the stunts. leave for the romance.
Starting point is 00:12:41 Yes. It does romance so well. It shows all the stages falling in love, throwing them in water, getting dry, and then throwing them in water again. It was crazy. I've never seen two grown people just walk into water fully clothed that many times. He's like you want to go see something.
Starting point is 00:12:59 He takes her to ass sliding, which I'm not even kidding, is legitimately sewage runoff. They are in a cement slide that is not for fun, so must be to carry solid waste from a tunnel to a body of water. These kids get pink eye. I mean, maybe that's it.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Maybe that's why they have to keep their clothes on. And that's why, like, they can't ever get caught because nobody thinks, like, well, they're probably out at the shit slide. Like, why would you, that is, it is so. crazy, the visual of it. And then they are soaking wet for the rest of the day. But then you think, okay, well, I'll justify
Starting point is 00:13:50 that the day just took them there and they both said, fuck it. We won't take off our shoes or our pants or our heavy sweats. And we'll do it. Just a beat about the clothes they're wearing. Please know, it's not like, oh, a T-shirt.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Right. It's like heavy 80s fabric that doesn't breathe at all. Yeah. And like pleats. Oh, so many pleats. It's like trousers.
Starting point is 00:14:18 Six metric yards of fabric. Make up Lori Laughlin's pants. Yet she is dry moments later. At least edit the montage to be like and then they get wet and then
Starting point is 00:14:34 the date is over. But no, they're dry. So I'll forgive the ass-sliding as a one-time thing. But later in the movie, what happens? Let's go do bike tricks and flip into the water? These motherfuckers can't stay out of water.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Can't. Once they put all their clothes on, they're at a real risk for just flying into a body of water. About Hal Needham, and again, you know, just a tip of the hat to the Hal Needham family over there. Right over here in the Needham seats.
Starting point is 00:15:10 The Needham family, large supporters of this theater for many years. They love live theater and stunts. But there was something that was so interesting about it. Stunts on the bike, and a lot of them are just like bouncing up and down on a wheel well. Bouncy bouncy bouncy. It's the most unattractive, uncool thing to just see someone like, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go. I think visually you don't want to do that anymore. Guys.
Starting point is 00:15:42 I know what you're trying to embody. Picture. But without the bike, it's weird. Or is it? I'm in Chicago for just a little time. People, that's the way I move. Dancing, sexually, everything. Chicago, everybody's getting freaky tonight.
Starting point is 00:16:02 That's why I felt so turned off by BMX riders and riding and the sport in general. You weren't sexually into crew at all? Oh, my God. All of the bike riders made me feel embarrassed. They look so dumb. What do you think is a more valid expression of self? Break dancing or BMX bike dancing? Honestly, that's a tough one.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Both of them require a lot of effort and energy. They both are hard. Both of them, both of them I took classes at the YMCA. I'm actually going to say, I'm going to say now that I'm going to say now that I'm not. Child was sad. Now that I understand there is like a price point to having a BMX bike and that you probably had to be wealthy enough to get one,
Starting point is 00:16:54 then I definitely will side with breakdancing and say it's a more valid form of expression. All you need is a piece of cardboard. And you're good to go. Yeah, you're good to go. This movie also I think one, I mean, there's a lot of issues with it, one being the lighting. So much so that at different points,
Starting point is 00:17:14 I'm like, what's going on? here. Like, am I going blind? Why is it's so pink? Then why is it so dark? Like, in the opening sequence, yeah, like, when they're doing that paper boy route, I'm like, what's happening here? Well, the crazy thing about the paper. You were a paper boy, Jason. I was. So, tread lightly. I'm going to try to be as diplomatic as I can. I know. Be careful. I deliver the daily evening item. I hear you. I'm going to. I'm going to be really careful. The pink sky. This looks like some sort of Chernobyl shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:47 I was like, is this post-apagalytic? I mean, my question about this paper route. So, from what I understand, and Jason, you know, chime in. I am right here for you, June. Okay, papers, the daily newspaper is usually delivered first thing. Right, you got it. 7 a.m.? 6 a.m?
Starting point is 00:18:06 What time do you head out? I had an evening paper route purposefully because I'm not a morning person, even as a child. But I think, no, kids used to go out and go and pick up papers at four and be delivery by five. Right, because he delivers his last paper at 7.15. Okay. That town is not up and awake
Starting point is 00:18:26 and out and about and in their jobs, all of them, by 7.15 in the morning. You think that's a problem. That's the only problem I saw in this movie. So if that had been addressed, everything else worked for you.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Everything else I would have been on board with. I have a larger problem than the people being out about was the fact that it seemingly was that his route was just to find the people and give them the paper. If at their job, if over here. It didn't look like there was any houses he was hitting. He was just randomly finding the person. So I was impressed on that level of paperboy.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Like I was like, oh, fuck it. This guy's not even doing houses. Yeah. Like the garbage truck man's like, no, late. My paper, now let me hoist you up on my garbage truck to save you some time?
Starting point is 00:19:21 So he can jump over the fence? That was crazy. That guy, that garbage man could literally lose his job for parking on the side of the road just to boost the kid up six feet. There's also a great moment in this opening, the paper boy route
Starting point is 00:19:40 where I think this is like an a remnant of old 80s movies where parents can be like real assholes. Oh, by the way, just to talk about this is a kid delivering the paper to two people in a boat. Two people in a boat.
Starting point is 00:19:58 But hang on, those guys live in that boat. It's not even a houseboat. It's a rowboat. A small... And they're like, all right, there we go. The firemen go by? Yeah, firemen. So you're telling me, the firemen, the firemen go by.
Starting point is 00:20:13 every day at that time all in the truck geared up for a fire or they're on their way to a fire but still want the paper is is crew maybe an arsonist in disguise he sat the fire every day to kind of just
Starting point is 00:20:29 make sure he gets those paper boys I do also sorry go ahead June no I'm understanding now why the town really comes around to rally behind him later on in the film because I didn't understand it and now I'm remembering he really he really tried to get those papers to him It does make sense.
Starting point is 00:20:46 He's like very committed to it. I do want to say fashion-wise, and I'd love to open the table to discuss fashion with you, June. First of all, Cruz rocking the chachi bandana around the thigh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:02 I feel like they were trying, I felt like, and I'm not sure, because maybe they hired crew because he could do, because he is doing a fair amount of bike, the dancing stuff. You know, he can do tricks, I mean. So maybe they hired him for that reason.
Starting point is 00:21:17 But he does look, he does look a lot like Scott Beo. Yes. And they're dressing him like Scott Bayer, and they're putting like the chauchy kind of bandana around his leg. And I'm going to now just use that as a segue into both talking about his fashions, but also the fashions of the twins. I am obsessed. I want to talk about nothing, nothing.
Starting point is 00:21:42 nothing but those twins. The rest of this podcast is going to be devoted only to the twins. Those guys, those were guys that when I saw them in a movie, I was like, I want to look like those guys. I don't want to look like this kid. I want to look like those guys. They were like straight up GI Joe from the 80s cartoon villains. Remember those characters like Zamo and Tomax?
Starting point is 00:22:08 Like one had a scar on one side, the other one had the scar on the other side. They were dressed in outfits that I don't think were ever popular. Oh, yes. With like a flap that went down here. Yeah. That's a jumpsuit. Holy shit. Their outfit was in the shape of a V.
Starting point is 00:22:25 It was like a V. Yeah, it was crazy. In general, though, I feel like the 80s was obsessed with twins. Like, there was sort of a cultural obsession and a fetishization of twins. There was a big thing. The double trouble twins, of course, my first sexual awakening. Double trouble. Great show.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Great show. I mean, you want to reboot a show. Reboot double trouble. I'm in. But they're also, like, I feel like the twins are not necessarily evil as much as they're just like showboats.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Like, they're, like, they're, I mean, I would say that there's a whole issue as far as, like, who's bad and who's good in this town because there really is no conflict to speak of more than that one person is the success. The twins and, Bart Connor. Wait, is Bart
Starting point is 00:23:14 Connor Jim Carter? No. No, actually this guy... Who is he? Well, this I will tell you that this guy was an Olympic gymnast. He is a gymnast, right? Yeah. Who is Jimcada? The other... Bart Thomas. Okay, okay, okay. But close, right?
Starting point is 00:23:32 He's a... Okay, so they're not from this town, right? No. They're all out of towners. Okay. They're coming here because this is going to put this town on the map. This hick town that is so not hick. Like, they treat this town like, I'm surprised the roads are paved.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Like, really? It looks like every regular-sized small town. Especially, I feel like if you have a BMX bike there, it's not a, you know, podunk town. If you could get that bicycle in a 10-mile radius, like that's kind of a cool town. Yep. So you think it's probably maybe the coolest.
Starting point is 00:24:12 town. Probably. I couldn't even keep track, though, of all the fat cats and all of the, like, interpersonal relationships. I just knew I didn't care. But I couldn't keep track of who was who and who was the mayor and why they wanted this here. They were trying to create the Super Bowl. Like, the Super Bowl would now be in their small town because everyone around the world, this is going to air on as many screens as the Super Bowl in their mind. Wait, they said that? Yeah. He said, this is our Super Bowl. The airing of the Hell Track race? Yes.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Which was at best passable as a race. I have to say that's the thing that upset me the most. The qualifying race seemed more interesting and harder. A lot harder. And I'm sorry, the qualifying races. I feel like I watched 700 laps of race. Well, they would. It was in real time.
Starting point is 00:25:10 I was like, is this? now just a documentary about this race? And the announcer talks a big game at the beginning of each race, but then stops narrating the race as it's going on. Like, did he win? It didn't look like he
Starting point is 00:25:26 won. It wasn't a... I had no idea what that qualifying race was. And then they'd send another 10 off and you'd just watch the whole thing again. And then the people who are actually racing in HALTRAC, they're also qualifying but they're coming there to race HALTRAC.
Starting point is 00:25:42 This is just for the people who want to get like... Okay, so was the qualifying race just for the townspeople? No. No. I believe the qualifying race was to get it down to a final number, a final race of 10, because there were so many entrants. A thousand. Well...
Starting point is 00:26:02 And I feel like we watched every heat of the qualifiers. And every heat. You watched a thousand people do that. Well, by the way... I believe it. I definitely know we were introduced to a thousand bicyclists for the actual health track. That was amazing. One of their nicknames was Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:26:23 Can I? Can I just play that for one? Just play that intro. Yeah. This is introducing every racer. It is, if you're listening at home, just picture a very non-plussed face for every name. You're not missing any visual. You're not, maybe a wave.
Starting point is 00:26:47 No visual. Maybe like mild irritation even. Here's the starting feat. Fighting for Team Hutch from Canada, Jeff Abram. For Team Robinson from San Diego, Richard Fleming. Robert Loof of Los Angeles for DK racing. Annie Millweed. From the Red Line team, from Torrance, California, Scott Clark.
Starting point is 00:27:13 By the way, that guy looks like he's 40. A number of these people do. By the way, so does crew. Yeah. Well, this is also like 80s movies where all the teens look like they're middle-aged people. Like, yes. Yeah. Mark Behan is qualified for Norfolk and Zumaresaki.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Martin Friho for GT. Fighting for Bam Bites. The pedal power rider is Chris Phoenix. Robinson. It's Travis Chiffray. For Team G. Edgy Tehola. As well as Kevin Hall from Texas.
Starting point is 00:27:51 going. For the Skyways team, it's Richie Anderson. Lighting for bands is Beechel Rosecrans from Honolulu from the nation Florida's I was so excited during that sequence because the two twins are from my hometown. Really? I know I screamed. No one is from Bay Shore, New York. I was like, yeah, we got twin bag guys.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Are they actual BMX dudes? When I go home for the holidays, I'm going to find out. find out. We watched that whole segment. Every single one of those riders was mentioned. They got a straight ahead shot on them. Not one of them waived normally
Starting point is 00:28:50 at all. Nobody could just give a cool wave. Everybody waved somehow weirdly. If you've ever heard of that... Uncomfortably. If you've ever heard of that book or that website or that website, like, awkward family photos, right? It is the
Starting point is 00:29:05 encapsulation of this in video form. No one looks ready. No one looks ready for it. People seem upset that it's happening. It's all, it's all, you caught everybody at the wrong moment. It's like, I'm in the middle. Oh, hi. I'm back.
Starting point is 00:29:23 And they're all in direct sunlight. Yeah. Fun fact about the final race, the film built the wall that they start on too high. And all the professional race was like, no. we're not doing this. And they had to kind of like shuttle production
Starting point is 00:29:41 for like two weeks to lower the hell track. The hell track was too high. Can you imagine if like 11 BMX racers were killed on this film? One broke their leg. We saw him. He had the broken leg that they high five. He was one of the stuntmen.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Oh really? Listen, let me ask. As BMX bikers? Yeah, sure. It's what's pronounced BMXB. Experts. All right, all right. That's enough. That's enough. Did you recognize any of these faces? I did not.
Starting point is 00:30:15 No. I did not. I would argue, though, if you showed me today's best BMXers. I don't know. Matt, Matt, Matt, uh, Mira? No, that's, that he owes James Bonding podcast. Wait, are you just, are you just promoting Matt Mara? James Bonding podcast?
Starting point is 00:30:31 No, but it, like, it wasn't there one like, what's his name Matt? She hit that one. So, um. Why do all you shitheads no BMX racers? Wait, how many people are here tonight? Not because you like our podcast, but just because you love BMX racing and heard this was about...
Starting point is 00:30:48 These people come and find it. The rad fans are so into this movie. I wish they'd be a little bit more into it because when they did start a Kickstarter, they wanted to crowd fund a documentary about the film called 25 years later, a rad transpective. It did not reach a show.
Starting point is 00:31:10 the goal. Heartbrook. I am heartbroken to hear that. Yeah. This, yeah, whew. But there is a hell track being built right now and there's going to be a hell track somewhere in the country. Someone sent me the flyer for it. For real? Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Well, I was looking forward. I want to go in that big bowl of cereal. Yeah, and I was looking forward to the hell track and seeing what types of, you know, obstacles there were going to be. But it did feel like, man, they spent a lot of time trying to keep crews out of this. They should use that time and energy building more fun things for these BMX guys. I would argue, too, that you, the bummer of BMX racing in this format is that they're just doing the same thing over and over and over again. And they didn't even like change what was happening. It was like, oh, they made it.
Starting point is 00:32:05 They made it. They made it. They made it. guys fell. But okay. And what I really didn't like about this film is that... And you can fall and it's okay. Oh, just get back up.
Starting point is 00:32:15 And you can go, you can also jump on either side of an obstacle in front of you. Like that tub that you have to go in and ride the thing out or bowl of cereal or whatever, some people just rode around it. Easy enough? You don't have to get in single file line and everybody ride the spoon out. So why ride the spoon at all? And the thing that really annoyed me is that there was no... There were no differences in types of racers. So Cruz, was he a good BMX racer?
Starting point is 00:32:44 In his blood. I mean, as Lori Lachlan said, he's got something. Did you see anything different in his style than anyone else's? Absolutely not. There was nothing I was connected to about his type of racing. I'd argue that he didn't even show me anything that exciting besides bike dancing. He was... No, he was a great bike dancer.
Starting point is 00:33:03 He was a great bike dancer, you know. But that's the thing is, I wish that the whole movie had been reversed and that we might have seen the big race or whatever, but that you really see him come into his own at the dance at the end of the movie. That's interesting. He's done the racing, which is a big bucket of who cares, right? I mean, I get it. But he really has to, if he's going to get the girl, he has to win her with his moves.
Starting point is 00:33:32 You know, his moves on the bike on the dance floor. I'm down for that. I mean, the most disappointing part was at the very end of the race, there was no special move that won him that race. By the way. He just simply got a little bit further. And kind of didn't even get to that point. The lead guy, our main hero, is like,
Starting point is 00:33:55 I need to stop and wait up for him. Okay. And to what end? Because isn't the thing a race? So why would you ever go like, let me let him catch up, and then we'll really see who wins? No, you're racing when you're ahead. So I think, but I think that that was his plan all along.
Starting point is 00:34:12 To lose? Yeah. You think Bart Connor wanted to lose the race to Cruz? Yes, I do. Because he... Okay, Hal Needham's family. Yeah, because I think there was something not sitting well with him knowing that he was, you know, essentially the property. Yeah, and he joined in with the team at the very end.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Well, he didn't want to be there. Yeah, I know what you mean. I had an issue with... the number one BMX biker not competing, which was kind of thrown to the side. Like, Lori Lachlan, like, she's like, he's like, why do you have that number one? She's like, well, self-explanatory, right?
Starting point is 00:34:50 I'm the best. And then they go in the park and they jump up on stuff. And, but when he goes, like, why aren't you in the hell track, this weird explanation, which is so bizarre, it's like, it's so odd to be like, she came to town then to what? She's not competing. She just says, I didn't get a chance to thank you for the dance last night.
Starting point is 00:35:11 You're welcome. You took off so quick, I thought maybe there was something about me you didn't like. No, no, that's not it. Can you pause for a second? He's giving her nothing. He's giving her nothing. This is the day after the bike dance. This is the day of the ass slide, I believe.
Starting point is 00:35:36 This is like, love. And she's saying, I thought she didn't like me. And he's like, no. Blah, blah, blin, blin, blin. He might as well be a sack of potatoes pushing a bike. But don't you feel that, like, Lori Loflin, is that any of your prenaturally? And if it isn't, oh, that's what I'll say. That Lori, like, her whole career has been, like, being better than her male counterpart,
Starting point is 00:36:03 ultimately. Always. With the exception of Stamos. Stamos, the two of them, So I swear to God, these motherfuckers are vampires. They look so good. Something's up. I mean, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:36:16 She looks better now, and she's beautiful there. All right, so he, here we go. Good on that bike. You picked up that move like that. Well, I didn't have much of a choice, didn't I? So are you going to ride a health track? No. I kind of wish I could, but I still race for trophies.
Starting point is 00:36:34 See, my factory sent me here for kind of a show and tell thing. What? So. Okay. I race for trophies. Okay, so that's a, that's a Corvette race. I guess that's. Race for trophies.
Starting point is 00:36:49 So she's, I think, is she saying she's, like, still competing on a circuit that is, like, the Olympic version of this? That, like, this is, like, pro sports? I mean, listen. They do a lot of stunt wigging in this movie. Oh, yeah, that, I have that. Clearly made no attempt to find a woman who could ride a bicycle. No attempt. I find it hard to believe that there was not one woman in all the land
Starting point is 00:37:21 that could have done some of her stunts. Agree. How is that possible? I mean, there should be at least one, right? There should be one female BMX racer who could have done this. Isn't that on your special skills on your resume? I'm trying to find, all right, so this is... Look for any scene that she's in with a bicycle because it's not her.
Starting point is 00:37:42 It's a man. If you just watch Lori's hair, here we go. That is just a broad-shouldered man. Yeah, that's just a man. Here we go. In like a Marlowe Thomas wig. That's her face. That's her female body, female.
Starting point is 00:38:11 body. That's his riding on the normal ground. Okay. Okay. There's him. This is crew. Into the water. And this is a man going into the water.
Starting point is 00:38:31 What if she's like a BMX vampire? Like when she rides, she turns into their body, turns into a man. I mean, I think that's really disturbing, though. So not only do they just not find anyone to do her stunts, but then they just take her storyline away completely. The character can't even be a rider. No, she's not allowed. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:38:53 She's not allowed. It would be unseemly. I, in the grand scheme of things that don't make sense. I agree with you. I was confused of the politics of this town. The old man who's rich, the mayor, but more importantly, the cop. The cop who, and I know this is like a little bit of a deep reference, But the cop looks like Dr. Eggman from Sonic. And the cop makes a speech at the end of the movie to rally the town that I rewound
Starting point is 00:39:33 because I don't believe it makes any sense. Like he left out a couple of lines. I will say, this is, he has been the lead actor's nemesis. It's like, so Hel Needham also made Smokey and the Bear. okay, right? And their relationship is a lot like, smoking the bandit, sorry.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Smoking the Bandit and BJ and the Bear was the TV show. Don't worry about it, guys. It all happened. So, it's about a cop chasing a trickster, roadster, played by Bert Reynolds.
Starting point is 00:40:08 This is the same exact dynamic but with them on bikes. But I would argue the cop is a friend. The whole movie, like, when they're racing it's revealed here. No, but in the first
Starting point is 00:40:19 first scene when they're going through the log thing, he's like, oh, the copter, he wants to race us. Who wants to do it this time? Oh, I'll do it. Like, it wasn't like... Oh, I thought he was there to bust them. Yeah, he was there to bust them? I think you read that moment wrong. Oh. Really?
Starting point is 00:40:34 Wait, wait. Was he there to bust them? Yeah, of course you want. No, he was just there to race them and that's what they said... Wait, wait. That's insane. That's insane and that doesn't happen. Wait, who thinks he was there to bust them though? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:49 And who went you there to race them? You guys are fucking idiots. Then why does this scene? This scene only makes sense if we've perceived him story structure wise. It only makes sense if this is a turn for the cop. We're supposed to be completely shocked that this has happened. Otherwise, you're saying the script for this movie is nonsense. And that's not possible.
Starting point is 00:41:18 And what we're here to say is, How dare you? This is flawless, classic storytelling. I will tell you that I believe that... I'm talking the Liz Estrada. No, no, I'm not trying to say I'm talking. I'm saying, no, I'm just talking about the Liz Estrada. I'm talking Shakespeare.
Starting point is 00:41:39 I'm talking rad. These are classics. Sorry, Paul. Sorry, Paul. I wasn't trying to talk you down. I will say that I think one of the things, things was, this cop saw something in these kids. He's like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:41:56 I'm going to challenge them every day because one day, this town will get a shot and we will get on the map. And I am here to serve and protect. And I am going to protect that we bring home, Haltrak. I'm so sorry, Paul, the part has been cast. We are reboot crazy, people. Put me in as Sergeant Eggman.
Starting point is 00:42:27 You're not getting this part. See, I agree with you if this is the scene where you discover that's what he's been doing the whole time. If you know he's been doing it the whole time, then what we're saying is what? It's nothing. That's insane, you guys.
Starting point is 00:42:45 These are teenagers on BMX bikes. Their natural enemy is the police. His job is to serve and protect this town. He may in like some area of his brain enjoy watching their tricks and blah, blah, blah. But he's enforcing the whole time because he has to because that's his job. Despite every instinct he has, he sees what's going on. And for the first time in his life, he lays down all the rules and all the regulations, and he stands up for what he knows in his heart is the right thing to do.
Starting point is 00:43:22 But it's not easy for him. It's not comfortable, but he does it anyway. And you know how we know he's being real? For the first time in the whole movie, he takes his sunglasses off. He lets us see his soul through his eyes. He says, look at me for real. I challenge Paul Thomas Anderson to do a better choice
Starting point is 00:43:50 that directing an actor than that. Here is the speech that makes no sense. And the best thing about Rad is he can interpret his motivation
Starting point is 00:44:02 in a myriad of ways. He walks fully to his day. He walks the whole way. I thought I heard it all until now. Oh wait, does he not take him off? Uh-oh. I've watched kids grow up. I've chased every one of them.
Starting point is 00:44:24 I think crew and his friends have done something special. real special. They have given themselves hope, and all your talk about dollars is killing that hope. If someone doesn't see the crew has this opportunity, well, I guess we'll just all have to learn to
Starting point is 00:44:44 live with it. You guys, an apology. He didn't take off the sunglasses. But he pretty much did. I almost feel like you put on a pair of darker sunglasses. In many ways he did, though. You know what? His words metaphorically took off the sunglasses.
Starting point is 00:45:02 the sunglasses off for him. If you are an acting student out there, if you are a professional actor, and they'd say, hey, bring a monologue next time you audition. I'd say... To that end, I would say, bring the monologue from Miami Connection. Oh, yeah, that's
Starting point is 00:45:20 pretty great, too. But if someone else in class is doing that, bring this. I mean, that speech will have to live with it. Okay. Okay. And he's like,
Starting point is 00:45:36 we're talking about money, but what they were talking about was raising money for him to be able to race. It's right? Well, I am still grappling with the question of where did they get
Starting point is 00:45:47 the capital money to buy all those t-shirts in the first? Oh, no. Well, that was that guy, the evil man in this movie, the BMX bad guy, he worked for a mongoose
Starting point is 00:46:00 as a small patch on his suit told us. So he was a mongoose person who's like, I spent millions in merch and if this kid wins, I'll become very successful because I've forwarded his career. If Bart Connor wins. He needs Park Connor to win the race. But you're asking, why does crew...
Starting point is 00:46:17 Oh, sorry. Why does Cruz crew... Initially, yes, Cruz crew with his sister, which we haven't even spoken about. Oh, she was... I mean, I thought about her. So cute, I just want to shove her in a garbage can. She, originally, they were able to make $10,000 worth of T-shirts.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Where did that money come from? Oh. Yeah, the qualifying race. Made $10,000. Got him $10,000. And he used that money. Instead, remember, he was going to use that money to whatever he was going to do.
Starting point is 00:46:51 He instead turns that into trying to get sponsorship because that's the next hurdle they throw in front of it. With the rule book where they're adding rules at any given point. Yes. Here's another new rule. They're constantly trying to... So he took the 10 grand, invested it into the T-shirts.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Correct. To try to make it to 20. Keep in mind also into painting his helmet and making a shirt for him to wear. But yes, that's where the 10,000 was. Well, no, no, no. That shirt for him to wear wasn't that designed by that elaborate ploy
Starting point is 00:47:23 where everyone in the school was building an outfit for him that was very lackluster. And one nerd was doing all of their homework? Oh, yes. Yes. What was that? One nerd.
Starting point is 00:47:36 It was like, one nerd, you do all their homework, and then we'll use all of their seamstress, their painting skills. And everybody's, I'm here to color T-shirts. That was the other thing. They were dyeing white T-shirts red, which was a thing we used to do. It's cheaper to get that white material than that right. By the way, they missed a real opportunity to tie-dye that uniform.
Starting point is 00:48:01 I was like, fucking red would it have been if that red shirt was tied-eyed fuck we did a lot of that anyway and so they make all that shit and the kid comes in and he's like well I'm here to paint tea or color t-shirts
Starting point is 00:48:15 here's my homework and they hand the homework off to someone else who's just doing all of every subject I this every 80s movie smart kids are punished for being smart oh you know and this is I was going to say too in the beginning smart kids are punished and also parents
Starting point is 00:48:33 treat their kids terribly because there's that opening scene where the mom's pulling out of the driveway which goes, if you don't shut up, I was like, wow, getting hot early in the morning. I'm going to be honest,
Starting point is 00:48:46 I miss those days. I miss when people would just like scream profanities at their children in like the mall. Why don't you shut the fuck up? By the way, you know, we keep on saying rad.
Starting point is 00:49:01 and that wasn't the actual title of the movie. It was changed very late in the game and I'll play this clip and maybe you can see what the original title might have been. You can do it. Just pretend you're in a lumberyard. Go balls out. Balls Out was the name of this movie.
Starting point is 00:49:31 If, wow! June, you don't look like you like the title. Balls Out. I would argue if this movie had been called Go Balls Out, it would have won an Oscar. Every year
Starting point is 00:49:50 since its release. I mean, not to go back to the policeman's motivation, but after seeing that scene, it's just become clearer and clearer. He was just doing his job until he couldn't anymore. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:50:10 I mean, arguably, too, if you're talking about awards and handing out awards, I'm sure that Talia Shire just came off of Rocky. She read this script and was like, great part for me. Like, no reason to have her in this movie. She's great. She's not doing anything bad. She's not doing anything bad. This is a Schwartzman, though, right?
Starting point is 00:50:25 This is a Schwartzeman-Copola family movie, I believe. Oh, is it? Okay. John Schwartzman producer, Jack. Jack Schwartzman producer, who I'm assuming is Jason's dad. Oh, okay. Who I believe that makes Talia Shire either a sister or a cousin. Okay, because that makes sense, because I was like, it makes no sense that she agreed to that part in this movie.
Starting point is 00:50:46 And it also likely means that Nicholas Cage was almost in this movie. By the way, huge missed opportunity for Nick Cage to play both twins. Oh. Amazing. You know, in our remake, we have the offer out to Nick Cage to play both those parts. At the age he is now. He really wants to play. twins again.
Starting point is 00:51:13 Now, did crew? Did crew ever take his SATs? No. No, in six months, right? Wasn't that the thing he'll take him in six months? Yeah. But he'll miss college. So we just never know if he took them or not. Well, he doesn't need to. Now he's number one in the world. No, that was the whole thing. That was her whole thing.
Starting point is 00:51:34 Regardless of the outcome, he was going to take them. If his mom had been a little bit more forceful and maybe said, You know what? Unless you take those SATs, no racy. Oh. There's the guy that kept saying no racy. I thought that was going to get a much bigger response, guys. I'm not going to lie to you.
Starting point is 00:51:53 Because I wrote it down because I was like, I don't like that this guy keeps saying no racing, no racy. Really thought that was going to hit. You know what, Chicago? I don't like you anymore. You know it was... No, no, it's over for us. Take you Lumanities and get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:52:15 We talk a lot about the stunts in this movie, but I have to say the best stunt in the film was when Ray Walston, the older man in the movie, balances. Two coffee cups. They were not glued down. He kept that plate almost at a 90-degree angle at some point, and those coffee cups stayed on.
Starting point is 00:52:36 So I thought, once I saw that, for sure, he was going to be in the hell race at the end. Yeah. By the way, I would have loved that. I was waiting for it. And it was his $27,000 that made up the gap. Yeah, what's his background? Where did he make this money?
Starting point is 00:52:52 I don't, I'm unclear where he has that money from. He worked in a place where someone else is there. We know that there are two coffee cups where he likes to drink a lot of coffee. So because that's no small chunk of change to just throw to a random kid in the town. Yeah. He is shark tanking it.
Starting point is 00:53:09 He sees potential and he's like, I'm going to sit on $26,000 worth of merch because I know I'm going to resell that shit in a couple of weeks and I'm going to get my money back. I would finance currently a movie that stars just him and the little sister solving a mystery or something. She was amazing. She was baby Catherine Hahn.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Oh, yeah. She was so good. She was like the... She was the equivalent of the little brother in Teen Witch. Let's hear... Actually, I take it back. That's the movie I want. I want a movie where the brother from Teen Witch
Starting point is 00:53:47 teams up with the sister from Rad and they solve a mystery. If these movies were successful, you might have gotten it. Let's just have a little taste of the two of them together. What was that terrorist act all about back there? It just bugs me out how the stupid kids and barks so rad. We're better than him. And if you could raise, you chose it.
Starting point is 00:54:09 I don't know. That bar guy's pretty good, Wes. Bullshit. Mom's one here. Come on, let's go faster. Hey, Wes, how about a shower? What are you doing? Yeah, there's like some actual real stunts with kids that were stressing me out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:30 I thought maybe what might be fun is if we went through the dance bike, section, we can maybe keep the volume down a little bit and just see what we're, just talk through what we're seeing because this is the scene that I feel like we do need to kind of go through. I'll keep in mind again, this is it what appears to be a school dance, but is in fact a town-wide dance. Yeah. Lori Loughlin comes in. Man.
Starting point is 00:54:57 Man, Lori Loflin comes in. She, like, rides the bike into the dance hall, which is an odd choice. There's no one else there. then he goes in after her. He's never bike dance before. Could you pause for a second? This would make so much more sense if they had been boyfriend and girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:55:18 Yeah. If their relationship was such that there was more energy between them so that she was choosing Crew instead of Bart Conner in a way that was more meaningful. Also, Crew had a crush on a young woman named Katie
Starting point is 00:55:33 in the beginning of film. Who appeared to hate him. Yeah. Everybody in town is so dazzled by both the fact that he's such a good, nice boy, or he's totally rad on that bike. She falls out. He chases her and he's like, we go to the dance with me and she's essentially like,
Starting point is 00:55:51 go fuck yourself, crew. I don't know what she's up to, but she's not playing the game. She doesn't want to do with a BMX dirt riding. You know what? Listen, where she's coming from is just like, she doesn't like the mode of transportation. She said, what are you going to pick me up in?
Starting point is 00:56:09 I thought she didn't go to the dance because she had to care of her two children because she's 40. I said, I said, is this a teacher? That's like, because she's so dismissive. Like I felt like her line was going to be, crew, I am your teacher, this is inappropriate.
Starting point is 00:56:28 Or actually, wait, what year is it? It might be totally appropriate, unclear. I will say they're meat-cute between crew, and Lori happens because a woman is in her car. She's like, the oven's on. My cake will get burned. It's like, all right, let's stop the parade and get this woman to get to her cake.
Starting point is 00:56:48 That woman was not right. She was not. What, the town cake lady? Yeah, she left me feeling very unsettled. She also left her home while the oven was on. Yeah. No, she's not a well person. She's not okay, you guys.
Starting point is 00:57:04 Something's very wrong with it. no oven and there's no cake and there's probably no house. Later on at the town council or whatever the fuck that was at the town meeting and then again when they're watching the qualifying races I mean she's obsessed
Starting point is 00:57:20 with crew. If she is, she is sexually obsessed with crew. Like the real love story should be told from her point of view towards crew. The reality is if you have this few people to round out the town, don't shoot it in
Starting point is 00:57:36 enormous room and don't add extra chairs that aren't full. I'm not even kidding. There are more people. So many extra chairs. So many empty chairs that are just reminding you. Even people are not coming to town meeting or they cannot afford any more extras. Honestly God, more people showed up at the Stars Hollow town meeting every week than showed up to this town's meeting. Well, Jason, if you're saying they couldn't afford extras, you probably think this is a low budget movie, right? How much money do you think this movie costs to make? in 1986.
Starting point is 00:58:08 In 1986. $4 million. Yeah. To make? Yeah, yeah, yeah. To make, you're asking, right? The budget of the movie in 1980s. $4 to $6 million.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Okay, June? I'd say about $3 million. Okay. $11 million. Where? $11 million in 1980s. Paul, that's, like $46 million right now.
Starting point is 00:58:40 Genuine question, did they build the town? Did they build all of the infrastructure of a small American town? Because that is the only way they spent $11 million to make the movie rad.
Starting point is 00:58:57 Because, and this is maybe a little inside baseball, but there's not even many interiors in this movie. It's all daytime exteriors, which is the cheapest thing to shoot. 11 million, and when it came out an opening weekend, it did make $408,000.
Starting point is 00:59:15 I don't know, maybe it was on all those BMX racers. Maybe they just really, like, you know, wanted to make their quotes. How much could they possibly have cost? By the way, they're getting sponsored, yeah. All of their brands are being represented
Starting point is 00:59:30 in the movie. That's like product placement essentially all over the movie. By the way, if you're mongoose, why are you letting yourself be like the duchiest? You get like, if you're mongoose, you're like, great, we'll be in the movie. You're like, everybody's going to hate your brand. Everybody's going to associate you with the twins and the blonde douche. Well, there were Rad Vans.
Starting point is 00:59:52 Like, Vans got in on this, too. Coca-Cola 7-Eleven. What is it? Coca-Cola and 7-11. Vrons, I believe, is in some sort of lawsuit with Rad. Oh, really? One of the only bits of trivia I do know. there's a here's lots of message boards about this movie by the way
Starting point is 01:00:09 limited edition vans rad shoes look at the end of goes this shoes only available at your local authorized participating vans dealer can I ask this audience a question is anybody here wearing the rad shoes I feel like it's something that could be possible in one of these shows and the answer is no you failed us Chicago that's two strikes baby two strikes all right so we We're watching the dance scene.
Starting point is 01:00:37 We'll get back to the dance scene. But I will say when we're talking about, oh, it would be great if Lori was maybe dating. Bart, I would argue, it would be great if Bart was anything evil. He simply seems to show up, be cool, dance, and not really getting Cruz's face at all. He's the best guy at this. We know he's already established as the champion, you know. He just seems like, I don't know, if Al Pacino came to your town, he would be just as aloof as Bart.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Like he's like, yeah. And what's interesting about it is. Why's Pacino coming to town? Pacino was originally supposed to be. Oh, for the acting off? Yeah. Is your town, did your town host the acting off? It was a Super Bowl of acting competitions.
Starting point is 01:01:17 What's interesting about his performance is that I actually thought he was doing a great job playing one of those guys. Like a snowboarder who's just like, yeah, I'm really good. I'm here. I've got not a ton going on up here, but that's okay. Like not a lot of light behind the eyes. It seems very real. I'm here to do the thing you've asked me to do. And when I'm done with that, I'll leave.
Starting point is 01:01:40 By the way, Bart, Olympic gymnast Bart, married to Nadia Komenich. Oh, wow. There they are getting married up there. You see them right there. Oh, wow. They look so happy. And here is Bart just talking about rad.
Starting point is 01:01:57 When I look back at the film all these years later, people often talk to me about rad. And it's kind of funny because literally I meet people who know the movie rad, but I have no idea that I used to be an Olympic gymnast. They just know me from rat. Literally, I have strangers. I'll be walking down the street,
Starting point is 01:02:13 and a guy will stop me going, dude, bartender, awesome! And then they just keep walking. And it's all these years later, and I still get it. Who would have thought that the film would have such a intense cult following? But I'm really proud of that. That seems like a very nice man. Yeah, so I wonder if people come out to it and are like,
Starting point is 01:02:33 Jim Cata, right? By the way, if you're recognizing that dude from Red, you are on a facial level of recognition that is unknown to me. Very different. It's very different. It's only like you're like, all right, so now it's 2018. Here's a guy in 1986 who was a child.
Starting point is 01:02:54 Got it. I don't think I could recognize my family that I haven't seen in a couple years. Yeah. Didn't anyone else find it troubling that the prize was not a bicycle? It was... But a car?
Starting point is 01:03:12 Yeah, that is odd, right? All right, so we'll just watch a little bit of this dancing, and the thing that it was so kind of... And I guess, like, who gives a shit? But I am at least, like, they just start bike dancing as if it was a thing that he's done before. You can't just be like, follow me.
Starting point is 01:03:30 Like, she's, like, gliding on the bike. And you think maybe they'll just do tricks to each other, but they're not doing tricks. They are bike dancing, lit like they're at the Olympics. And I don't know where they're getting that height and jump from because there's no ramps in there. This song is fucking awesome. All the songs.
Starting point is 01:03:55 This is amazing. Like, this is... There's nothing more erotic than this. Can you just describe that because I just want to, like, trip people... She's basically gliding in like a dance position on top of the bike like a goddamn angel. Sent from heaven above, as the song tells us. I mean, I would listen to this soundtrack and body rock all day long. I urge you to go home tonight and fuck to this soundtrack.
Starting point is 01:04:30 It's on Spotify. How about Break the Ice? That's a good song, too. Break the Ice. Yeah. So she's like doing this, which I don't think is a possible move. This is not a move. He's still, he's doing his jumping. She's flying.
Starting point is 01:04:45 I love this. They're just showboating. These are the old men at the dance. Who have been set up to be getting drunk. Yeah, they've been putting alcohol in the children's punch. Now they are standing on the bus. They're going so slow. That's something that makes me, you can't slow stunt.
Starting point is 01:05:12 That, look at this. That, Angel. Guys, I mean, this is, this is, this. As Jason said, send me an angel, we see crew lying flat on his bike arm I mean, this is unreal. You know what? We are having so much fun talking about the show. I have to get in the audience here and talk to them about this movie as well.
Starting point is 01:05:49 I want to point out that someone brought this amazing sign. If you remember in the film, there is a moment, a non-ironic moment where crew meets up with Lori. They're in an ice cream shop, and he tries to get her back. Can you pass that to me? Great. Thank you. And they're in an ice deep shop, and it says, having a friend like you makes me happy all over,
Starting point is 01:06:23 and he points to it like, yeah. And it doesn't make any fucking sense. This is amazing. Thank you for making that. What's her name? Christy? Thank you, Christy. We can give it back to you, too.
Starting point is 01:06:39 We can keep it, or we can give it back to you. I don't want to do I think that we just took it from me like aha It's ours It's ours now I'm gonna kiss it all night long I'm gonna go down there I have to come down this way I'm looking for a title that you think a one word or two word title that you think would be great for this movie As you ask your questions I want you to think about that a one or two word title
Starting point is 01:07:02 Who has a question something they want to point out? Yes sir come here Your name? Tom and your movie title weektown Nice So two things I was also enamored with the twins in the movie. So first thing, so I looked into Rod and Rex. They are now successful screenwriters,
Starting point is 01:07:19 and they wrote The Conjuring and the Conjuring 2. Yeah. Yeah. And also the jumpsuits that they wear at the dance were borrowed from the set of the miniseries V. I was, I wrote down on that thing. I got like, these people look like they're from V, and then I said I can't make that reference
Starting point is 01:07:43 because it will date me. Whoa! We have someone in the audience dressed in the V outfits and please stand up next to him dressed in Lori Loughlin's ex-man outfit. And look at this, very excited. Wait a second.
Starting point is 01:08:05 Three costumes, three amazing costumes. Can I ask you guys a question? Are you also Hal Needham's family? Please take a picture of them. We'll put that up in the show page. Guys, those are three people that want to talk to you after the show. Who else?
Starting point is 01:08:23 Over here. All right, sir, your name, your title, and your question. My name is Nick. My title is Screw College. Got it. And my question is, looking at the ending credits on my copy,
Starting point is 01:08:35 a lot of names were blanked out. And I was wondering if we know any reason why these people opted not to be referenced. I am looking at this picture that you've taken, yeah. Wow. It is like, it's like classified document level blocked out. Like the redacted cast list?
Starting point is 01:08:55 Yeah. Wait, Paul, where did he say found that? On the, his copy. Again, this is a copy that people are getting in ways that only true fans will get it. They are not sanctioned, yes. We don't know where it's all coming from. All right, I want to get, I want to get a, a lady here, a lot of guys. Here, here, here. Here, all right. Here's, all right, we'll get to you
Starting point is 01:09:18 too, hold on. All right, your name, your title, your question. My name's Laura. My title is Radical Youth. And my question is, can we get like an age for Lori? Like, because she's dating a teenager, but then she also says she's the top BMX biker in the world and she's traveled the world. I'd really like to get an age on her. Yeah. I was wondering, is she, is she, is not a school student. I don't think so. I'm going to say she's like 20 and he's 18. So, no? No, no, I'm sorry. I'm not saying the actors are that. I love the guy in the audience that just went, nope. I can tell you Lori Loughlin's exact age at the exact moment she was making this movie. You, sir, are wrong. I think she's meant to be a bit older. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:12 I'm up in the balcony now. All right. Paul, be careful. Be careful. The balcony is dangerous. All right. Can you come to me? I can't come to you or I'll die.
Starting point is 01:10:31 Okay, sir, your name, your title, and your question. My name is Martensi. The title is she's 20, he's 18. And my question is, who is watching the sister of Kru? She is just roaming around town most of them. Yeah, while the mom is ironing in the basement. That was, but that was the age, too. That's the age.
Starting point is 01:10:54 I feel like that's like the town is raising that girl. Yeah. Like. I wasn't worried about her. You know, but I also wouldn't be surprised if she ended up like being abducted on a train car. Oh, for sure. And being taken somewhere. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:11:06 No, she didn't make it. No, yeah. Yeah. Definitely not. By the way. The sequel is not so rad for the sister. She passes. I just had a thought here, too.
Starting point is 01:11:22 I just realized the mom had no reaction when the brother put her in a garbage can. She didn't say like, hey, stop that. Well, she knows that girl is trash. Did we ever find out how their dad died? There was some mystery surrounding that. I agree. I suspect foul play.
Starting point is 01:11:41 All right, here we go. I feel like that corner is trouble. Your name, your question, and then you can show me your pictures. You can show me your pictures? So at one point when Rad Racing is selling the shirts, the Munker's crew shows up in what appears to be the Corvette that is the prize for the race.
Starting point is 01:12:04 He has proof that it's yes. Yeah. Okay, dude. Did you turn to believe you? Why are they driving that car? Paul, is that a picture? That's a picture? Yeah, is a picture?
Starting point is 01:12:17 It's a picture from the movie. Why do I feel like if we go to this dude's house, it's going to be one of those red line, a wall of things. And he's like, I'll bring this and I'll bring this. Then they'll believe me. I'll be the final question. I mean, I'm doing honestly.
Starting point is 01:12:34 I will. I'm also doing some imperfection. I will not have any disagreement like they had about the cop if I bring my picture. But by the way, he's right. I guess they like kind of let them. Yeah, they did. But I'm doing some rigorous investigation of myself
Starting point is 01:12:46 because I just feel like, wow, have we presented a people up here that, like, you thought we wouldn't believe you? Like, we believe you. I'll be honest. I'll be honest. I'm inclined to not believe you, but I'm more scared of you that you brought the picture. I believe that he is a member of that small town who finally is trying to get that town meeting to pull it all together again. Was that picture, like, a glossy photo or what? It was a computer printout, to be fair.
Starting point is 01:13:22 Oh, so this dude's like, oh, don't worry, I've got a color printer. So, you know what, I take it all back. It's a fucking brag. It's a brag. He was like, I'm going to bring my picture so that everybody knows I've got Cayan Toner at home. He had nothing to do with us. That's just the kind of fuck I am.
Starting point is 01:13:42 And I applaud the use of a picture because it is a podcast. So, oh wait, can I get house lights up once again just briefly? I'm so sorry. I just want to acknowledge everybody. If you're wearing a rad racing shirt, please stand up. All right, we got one. I like it. Two.
Starting point is 01:14:02 Security, get them out of here. Okay. Obviously, we have opinions about this movie, but there are people out there with a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions. I'm watching a film Loving it all They say it's bad I say it's a ball
Starting point is 01:14:29 And I just got a comment They're calling me stupid Saying this movie's Putrid Well I've had enough I'm going on to air You're terrible Great
Starting point is 01:15:21 And if you want to hear five other ones Stay tuned for after the episode And we'll put them all back to back there We didn't want to cut any of them out because they're so damn good. You know what's interesting? They just all left, right? Yes.
Starting point is 01:15:38 Two of them sat in the lower audience. The vast majority came from the balcony. And he's not afraid. Oh, no, a couple of them went over there. Guys, I'm all wrong tonight. Here we go. Rad, second opinions. These are cold from Amazon.
Starting point is 01:15:59 Like I said, this is only available on Amazon in a bootleg version. There are only... And always available on my computer from here and out. I will always have it. There are only 110 reviews total because, again, there's no official seller. But I will start off with this one,
Starting point is 01:16:18 and it may be a little navel-gazy, but why not? The title is, Paul Shear, I hope you like the movie. By Kyle from Georgia. I sent the copy I bought to Paul Shear at How Did This Get Made? Hopefully they'll do an episode on it because it's one of the best movies of all time. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 01:16:40 Five stars. Can I ask you a question? Yeah. That means your name on Amazon is your own name? So anybody who sends you stuff from Amazon knows it's you? Oh, no. He sent it to the address that we have for the show. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:16:55 It didn't just arrive at our home. I was going to say, if that person has your home address, move. I wanted to hand deliver. this copy of the movie Rad and also let you know the exact age of Lori Loughlin when she made the movie. This one is from
Starting point is 01:17:16 Regina. Regina writes, Husband About Pied from excitement of finally being able to buy this on DVD. Thank you. Five stars. That is a couple
Starting point is 01:17:33 that is into water sports. Peter F. Loder writes simply this. He watched it four times the day he got it. Five stars. Wait, he said he watched it or I watched it? He watched it four times the day he got it. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:17:56 Wait, there's not previous information. Nope, they points to the... No, but you're not saying... What are you talking about it? Yeah, okay. Hold on. The balcony's got us all mixed up. Wait, I swear to God, it's all balcony.
Starting point is 01:18:08 It's all balcony people that write these reviews. He also titled the review five stars. So the title of the review is five stars, and then it says, he watched it four times the day he got it.
Starting point is 01:18:21 Yes. This review is haunted. Sounds like a balcony monster. And finally, I don't know if this is funny, but it's intense. This is from Andrew F. And he goes, I am a huge rad fan.
Starting point is 01:18:40 It was my favorite movie growing up and still is. I've seen this movie hundreds of time on VHS and on a DVD copy I bought years back. The DVD quality wasn't much better than the VHS, but at least it had a menu with chapters that I could watch on a DVD player. I have always tried to keep an eye out for a better quality DVD and was skeptical when I found this because it said HD quality. And I found that hard to believe because this movie has never been released on DVD. I figured I would give it a shot because it was only 20 bucks, let me tell you. It's the best $20 I've ever spent.
Starting point is 01:19:15 The quality is unbelievable. It looks better than some Blu-rays. No joke. I don't know how they got it to look so good, but it's well worth your money. I was telling my brother how good the movie looked, and he thought I was full of it until he watched it.
Starting point is 01:19:31 Ten minutes into the movie, he was like, I'm going to go on Amazon and buy myself a copy. If you are a fan of this movie You need to buy it now You will not be disappointed I tip my hat to Frankie's custom classics I don't know how you got the movie to look so good
Starting point is 01:19:48 But job well done I have been waiting for something like this For a long time Thanks, five stars You really embodied that gentleman That was amazing That was a transformation That's a model like you should
Starting point is 01:20:11 That is my contemporary model. I guarantee that dude, A, is single, and B, talks about RAD on first dates, 100%. All right, so we've said a lot about RAD. I wanted to go and ask you, Jason, would you recommend this movie? One million percent. This movie, and I will say,
Starting point is 01:20:36 the colors were popping, the dancing was both errone. and also romantic. Two things that I just adore. I thought, the ass slides into sewage was an interesting choice, but I enjoyed it. I thought the little sister was a home run.
Starting point is 01:20:55 This movie, T2B, top to bottom, was fucking rad. June? It's hard. I know people like this. I see the numbers. I hear the response. I see the T-shirts.
Starting point is 01:21:12 I know that. that there's an audience out there. You see the cosplay? Yeah, there's a cult following. I don't understand it. Do you think if you watched it seven more times you would? No, I mean, it is sort of, listen, this movie is not for me. It's just not anything that I care for.
Starting point is 01:21:33 So, I had a really difficult time watching it. I hope to never watch it again. I know I'll never drag that file over into the trash, but I did not like it. I will say, like that stranger whose eyes widened when they saw Bart Connor walking down the street 30-some-odd years after the completion of this film, my eyes too were open to the balls-out nature of this film,
Starting point is 01:22:09 which I also say is. rad. This, yeah. This to me, this is, this sits comfortably in the pantheon of movies such as Miami Connection. These are movies to me that are like a cut, not just because their t-shirts are similar. The red shirt with the black text. This was a pretty spectacular film. 100%.
Starting point is 01:22:33 Here's the deal, people. There's so many people to thank here for the show. Nate Kylie, who does all of our research. Good on him. Good on all the people sending me, all that rad merch. You've convinced me, we did it. Hats off the P.
Starting point is 01:22:48 But also, fuck you. Yeah, I mean, thank you. But also, fuck you on behalf of June and I for sending us zero merch. And a big thank you to Averill Halley, who cut all these amazing clips and found that clip of the Olympic gymnast.
Starting point is 01:23:04 So, so good. As we wrap up the show here, because we are running a little bit late, I'll just ask, does anyone have anything they want to plug? So at the end of this month, Adult Swim is going to air June 24th at midnight. Adult Swim is going to air a special that I made with Brian Husky, Jesse Falcon, and Rob Cordry. It's called Mr. Neighbor's House 2.
Starting point is 01:23:23 It's basically posits the idea, what if David Lynch created the Mr. Rogers show? It is super dark and fucked up, and it's very funny. So please watch that. Yeah, I'm good. You're good. Well, I'll simply plug. I have a new podcast miniseries with Amy Nicholson called Unspooled. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 01:23:46 Unspooled, which you can get anywhere of podcasts I heard. We actually watch good movies, and it's been super fun to do that. Thank you, Chicago. All right, it is now time for second opinions. All right. Good. All right. How does a badly acted cinematic pile of shit?
Starting point is 01:24:14 Shit, get past the studio and get green lit. How did these actors get roped into this garbage fire? Lori Lachlan, I can see, but come on, really? Tell you, Shire? Movie about BMX. Who the hell asked for this, a choreograph, dance scene on bicycles? Are you serious? Cost 11 million, pray to God it, it makes it back.
Starting point is 01:24:33 Otherwise, this thing is headed down on a hell track. Well, the word got around. They said, damn, this film is real bad. All the critics hated it and said it wasn't very rare, but a few brave souls tried to save its good name. So they went online to earn their fame. What's your claim, man? Here's my second opinion.
Starting point is 01:24:52 This film deserves five stars on Amazon. But it still left me with one big question. How the fuck did this get made? Give it up for Brian. Brian, come on over here. You stand over here. That one's for Lynn Manuel Miranda, everybody. It is now time for second opinions.
Starting point is 01:25:24 Yes, I believe that this movie was good. I know I'm not alone. The bicycle dance was my favorite scene. It still hold ups, it's true. Lori Loughlin, Talia Shire was great too, and some guy that plays crew. I got along on to Amazon, to give this movie it's due.
Starting point is 01:25:52 BMX racing gets my heart pacing. Got a review to do, a review to do. Critics say it's bad, but I love rad. Second opinions. Second opinion. Amazing. What's your name? Come on over here.
Starting point is 01:26:32 Chicago, you got great songs. They're all long. You got them. They're great. All right. It is now time for second opinions. Don't stop me now, because I got a strong opinion. Gonna post it online.
Starting point is 01:26:52 Don't ask me how this movie even got made. This movie's a favorite of mine. In my second opinion, all caps like I'm yelling. These are second opinions. Five stars on Amazon. It is now time for second opinions. Closing in silence watching this rat flick. Gotta keep my cool watching them do sweet-ass tricks.
Starting point is 01:27:35 It's a game of wills we're playing. Opinions made us steal. Balanced on the edges of everything I feel. It's gonna... Just to make it through this plot. Gonna do it on crap tonight. Get ready to rate. Type in it.
Starting point is 01:28:08 I can make it. Give it up for Jeff. over here Jeff. Great commitment. It is... It is now time for second opinions. All right, stop. It's time for second opinions. Saw a red film. Now I got a new mission. This movie did everything.
Starting point is 01:28:39 So rightly, bought the DVD, watch it daily and nightly. I gave it five stars. Why? I don't know. Just turn off the lights and then join the show. Yo, to the extreme. I write reviews like I'm Cisco. This movie did it right, but it failed in the fiscal sense. It's not as good as the room still sweeping up. bomb ass broom ever Hallie making clips like a melody a movie this good should count as a felony Jason and Paul here to show you the way go balls out you know crew don't play if there is a
Starting point is 01:29:03 plot hole yo June'll solve it check out the flick while the disc is revolving yeah calling give it for Colin all right give it up for all second opinion people thank you walk off the stage there get out of here get out of here What I will say is this. The other 10-second opinions are ready to go. So bring him in. Jeff Tweedy, chance the rapper. Ken Vandemark, Chicagoans.

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