How Did This Get Made? - Re-Release: Face/Off LIVE! (w/ Randall Park)

Episode Date: November 24, 2023

Last Looks will return in two weeks! For now, enjoy a HDTGM classic as Randall Park (WandaVision) joins Paul, Jason, and June to discuss the 1997 Nic Cage and John Travolta masterpiece, Face/Off. LIVE from Largo in Los Angeles, they cover everything from Nic Cage's “tongue suck” to face waterfalls and so much more. (Originally Released 05/01/2015) Go to hdtgm.com for tour dates, merch, and more!Follow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer/HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheerCheck out Paul and Rob Huebel live on Twitch (www.twitch.tv/friendzone) every Thursday 8-10pm ESTSubscribe to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson here: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael here: www.thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcastCheck out The Jane Club over at www.janeclub.comCheck out new HDTGM merch over at https://www.teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmWhere to find Jason, June & Paul:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on Twitter

Hello people of Earth! This week we are taking a Thanksgiving holiday break from last looks and instead we are re-releasing a How To Disgit Made classic episode on one of the best movies of all time. Well I should say one of the best movies about face swapping ever made. That's right. You've already clicked play so you know that I am talking about the 1997 action thriller Face Off. We are joined in this episode by special guest Randall Park and you will soon be hearing us discuss Nick Cage's tongue suck, face waterfalls and so much more. Now there is no last looks today so I wanted to make sure that you could still prep for our next new movie episode. Next week we'll be kicking off

the holiday season with the 2009 made for TV movie, the dog who saved Christmas. Oh, I cannot wait. I cannot wait for you to watch us. It stars Dean Kane. Mario Lopez is the dog. Yeah. There are no reviews on Rotten Tomatoes, but there are five sequels. Okay. Oh, I know what you're in store for it. Let's go to letterbox because letterbox gives us a little taste of what we're in store for Caitlin writes. It's home alone, but if Kevin was a dog and Ellie comments, I missed the first 20 minutes to go in the shower and now I realize I should have stayed in the shower. You can stream the dog, you save Christmas on peacock free V to be the Roku channel and Pluto TV or just rent it on Amazon

Get into it get to the holiday spirit and if you have any corrections and omissions for our last episode on munchies Don't worry. We'll cover munchies and the dog who save Christmas in our next last looks episode You can still submit corrections and omissions on our discord at discord.g slash hdtgm or leave us a voice mail by calling 619 Paul ask. Remember I am in a holiday movie. Bring me home for the holidays. I am in this movie called Family Switch on Netflix. Check it out. It premieres November 30th. I think you'll like it. It's a good for the whole family. And now enjoy Face Off. What is this gonna be? Arguably the best movie about face switching ever made.

What? We saw Face Off. So you know what that means. Oh, yeah! What's up, man? We made it! How did Swiss and Aegean grow? Maybe in his belly like a rhinestone vest What? Dreaming! The world, brand of games, the street fighter, hope to blow off steam Just a sucker, push the odd life, attempt to bring Shock, need a verb, damage, how we stand and lie

They call it in the badass, and he's on the line Cranking 88 minutes, cause they cool his eyes Cause a bad gym, Bonnie looking kind of nice Paul and Jo, getting literal, Jason is getting laid Joon is making sure all the monkey shots get in pain They judge a bunch of movies while they making the grade Here's a real question for you, how did this get made? Hello, people of Earth!

And hello, people of Lago! Welcome to another live audition of How've had it this get made. We are very excited to be here in our Los Angeles home at the Largo, at the Coronet Theatre, which is a great place. If you're in LA, go see shows there. If you're not from LA and you visit LA, come see shit that happens here. Literally, crazy shows. We're amazing people.

I don't know when you're listening to this, but just Google it and you'll be like, oh fuck, that happened. I could have seen that. Yeah, it's crazy. It really cool stuff. So definitely do that. Now, please, without any further ado, let me introduce my cause, Jason Mannzuckis. What's up, jerks?

Welcome, welcome, Jason. This movie has been our biggest argument. Should we do this movie? Should we not do this movie? Yep. And the audience decided the last time we did a live show that we should do this movie. Yes.

And I can see that I would do it. And I am here to say it is just as fucking awesome as I remembered it being. So, as I said at con air, this should be called, thank God this was made because this movie is fucking rad. So you know where Jason stands. It wouldn't be a live show if one of our members

wasn't here and that's what's happening tonight, June is not here. Unfortunately, our beautiful baby has a temperature. Yes, thank you. And thank you for acting like that's the first time I've given you that information. We do a pre-show in the audience is aware, but they really played along for you, the listeners at home.

Oh, crowd. Look at how hard they're working for you. Hot crowd. Hot crowd. Hot crowd. So June will be joining us midstream to give her thoughts, her feelings. I can just tease it by saying that she had no idea what this movie was about. And literally turned to me and said, is this really happening? So, but, without any further ado,

we have a very special guest tonight. Please welcome Randall Park! Woo! Woo! Welcome Randall. Oh, yeah, please right there, come on. Sit down. Oh.

Hey, everybody. Welcome Randall. Hey. Hey everybody. Welcome, Randall. Hey. So exciting. So excited to have you on the show. Thanks for having me. This movie was so horrible. Horrible, right?

Horrible, too. Horribly great. Yes, yes. It was incredible. This is what I'll say about this movie, right? From the get go. And it's now proven in some of my notes. A lot of it has been improvised. Like, Nick Cage and John Travolta, like, threw away the script and just improvised.

So, it's like there was a script. And by the way, the screenwriters do the DVD commentary. We'll be playing a couple clips from that. Oh, good. As they kind of tackle some of the questions here. So if you don't know, for those of you who've never seen Facebook and you should, it's about a criminal and a con. Oh no, a criminal and a cop who switched faces.

Yes. That is... It is about... This is a movie. This is a movie. This is a movie. Guys, this fucking movie is great. This is a movie that begins with the murder of a child. This movie begins with Nicholas Cage shooting a child with a sniper rifle.

Now, and only... It wasn't a child with a sniper rifle. And only death. It wasn't a mistake. It wasn't a mistake. He did not mean to shoot the child. He meant to shoot. Travolta and went through him. Into his child.

Into his child's head. That's where this poorly starts. And by the way, there's a couple of things about this. For those of you in LA, it seems to me that they're at Griffith Park, which is a very open kind of family park. And Nicholas Cage seems about 50 feet away, unlike a grassy hole. On a grassy hole, he has a tarp over his sniper rifle,

which I don't understand why. Because he's very prominently seen, because he's smoking his standing next to it. He's not in the grass. He's not in any of the names. At some point, he set up that sniper rifle. He assembled, even. In full view of people who are probably like, throwing a fucking frisbee to a dog wearing a bandana, you know, and he's like, putting it together.

And then shoots a child. And then guys, he shoots a child and the movie begins. The cold open is in fantasy side. I, for the audience here, I've just put up, I put up, by the way, this is a, this is the official police report. Yes. This isn't a damn issue.

Carousel sniper victim murdered nine September, 1991. Now, if you think, yeah. May I read this please? This is what the police file says on the computer. The police report. This is what the police wrote in the computer about this child's murder that begins this movie. And by the way, I want to remind you,

this movie is great. The police report doesn't even have like a death scene photo. this movie. And by the way, I want to remind you, this movie is great. The police report doesn't even have a death-seen photo. They just got his earbook photo. Carousel sniper, Victor murdered September, 1991. Damage report. The boy died in the arms of his father, FBI agent Sean Archer, on the carousel in Griffith Park,

Castor Troy had intended, it's supposed the intention of the murderer. Castor Troy had intended to kill Sean Archer, but the bullet traveled through him and struck Michael in the chest. This kid is dead! By the way, this is, you know, John Travolta can call this up in the middle of the movie. But damage report doesn't seem to be a police term.

What's the damage report? Let's quick, let's look it up in the damage reports. I think you can probably just flip this whole thing around and just say, name Michael Arbcher, incident. Care, sniped on a carousel. Like very, it's sniped. You wouldn't, it's sniped. Sniped, sniped. That's what we would say.

Sniped on a carousel. They wouldn't list it like a more, it's listed like very provocatively. You know, like, it's very written very well. I'm surprised it has no mention of Archer's weird porn almost dash. That was just show time. Uh, right. Just clearly show time.

I, ah. I mean, by the way, it's a great fucking beginning. This movie, I really, you're like, you started out of the gate. You're like, whoa, what? I will say that I really do like this movie I bought it on iTunes instead of renting it. And when I watch it, I can see it. We get it.

You're rich. I already pre-ordered second best merit gold hotels. Suck it. I don't even care if I know how much it costs. I'm going to buy it. That's just a service your Dame Maggie Smith finish. Of course. And why shouldn't I?

I work hard. But to me, when I watch this movie, I was like, oh, well, they're not going to kill this kid. You don't think they are going to do it. At least I really didn't have that reaction. I was like, oh, shit. Oh, wow. I'd forgotten that that's how this started.

And I was like, oh, right. This movie tells you straight out of the gate that it's bonkers. Yeah, you were starting at 10. I would say it never lets down. Oh, never. Who would you say? Well, go into it. I mean, there's so many questions I want to ask in a general sense who played the better version of the other person.

I want to get into that because I have opinions about that. But basically all we know is that after this assassination of his son on a carousel, Travolta becomes a humorless head of a secret task force just basically take down Nicholas Cage's character, Caster Troy. Who appears to be like a famous domestic terrorist, but he says, I heard him saying the trailer for hire. Yes, well, in the movie, he is working. No, he is working for somebody else because the Pollock says,

oh, we're never gonna get that money from the Libyans. Like, he says. Is that it? He's okay. I never understood, like, who's hiring him? It's all organization. It's also like a highly covert, secret anti-terrorism task force. And all they do is destroy everything.

I also had an issue with the highly covert, secret organized task force. But when shit went down, they're like, all right, let's bring in every major criminal to our office. Yeah. Like, let's just show every major criminal to our office. Yeah. Like, let's just show him where we're working. Like, if you wanna do that, you wouldn't bring them to the secret headquarters. It's like Batman going, all right, we'll just leave him in.

We'll just say, we'll have tea and coffee in here. So like, they didn't have a place. So he's, his wife is, Joan Allen? We need a guy to get in here. She's in Joan Allen. Joan Allen. She's incredible Joan Allen. Joan Allen. She's incredible.

Amazing. But I gotta say, I feel comfortable. Okay guys, give it up for Joan Allen. Yeah, give it up. Like that was, that was tepid. We said, we already said the movie starts at 10. Kid gets killed. Then it goes to like a 20.

Because then it's like this opening sequence that is like the end of most movies. That's why this movie's awesome. I would argue this is like one of the defining Nick Cage performances. It was incredible. It's really, this is the beginning of like, oh no, it's not, because he's always doing

kukukukrazy stuff, but this really is like this period of Nick Cage, I feel like firmly establishes him as just going for it. No, I mean, from the moment one, like he's singing along with hallelujah, he is massaging a girl's ass. And it's awesome. It's everything about this opening. He has guns with dragons on them.

He's working for the girl by saying, how would you like to suck my tongue? He says that to multiple people, and multiple people take him up on it. I don't think that would be sexually enjoyable in the least. To have your tongue sucked. And he does put it out, and she sucks it. No, I don't want that.

The peach line, what was the peach line? He said, I can eat a peach all day, and you're like, peach. And he said, a lot of people, and that other girl, and the other scene was like, I thought, I was your peach. Yeah. So he's like, also like, that's his only line. It's only line is your peach.

I can eat a peach all night and suck my tongue. And everybody from Gina Gershaw until that random FBI agent is like, I'm in. But if it's working, why change it? Why change it? Seriously, I'm going to start saying those words. I'm going to start using only those pickup lines. I could eat a peach all night.

Ow! What? I'm getting slept so much. In an effort just to slightly move this show forward, because there's so much, we can spend so much even in the opening of this movie. I just wanna just set the basic premise, like, yes, so the fucking beginning of the movie is crazy.

There's helicopters, plane chases, people are getting shot in the head multiple times. There's, and I have this too, because there's that, there's the whole opening scene, which is the assassination of the child. Then there is a crazy priest, he arms a bomb, so now there's like ticking clock. Humps the girl singing the Messiah, who's part of the choir.

Then there is a chase, there is a hummer and police cars and helicopters on the tarmac chasing a plane down. And it's a huge step piece, and it is, I looked, I stopped the thing, and it was a huge step piece and it is, I looked, I stopped the thing and it was minute 11. It was like, Goddamn this movie is amazing. And the movie, at that point, I appeared to be, like, I was like, the status bar, I was like, oh, I think this movie's like seven hours long.

And we are only like, this far is. It is long, the movie is long. Very long, very movie is long. Very long. Very long. Worth it. So the other theme it kind of sets up early on is that everything explodes. No matter what. Yes.

If it's a box full of eggs, it's going to explode. The jet goes off course into a jet propulsion laboratory that also happens to be on the tarmac of an airport. I don't know if they do it that close to each other, but sure, I'll buy it. That blows up like a fireworks factory. Like, everything is exploding. Huge explosions in this movie.

Very satisfying. Uh, and... We should say this is a John Woo movie, and as such, has all of the hallmarks of John Woo films with all of the crazy doves, all of the standoffs, all of the everything that is John Woo is taken to the extreme because it's javulted in the cage. Unhinged.

Un, yes. Is this a question? Is this his first American movie? Is it easy? No, it's not a mink cage. Unhinged. Un, yes. Is this a question? Is this his first American movie? No, it's not. Is it Target? Maybe that is at the end. There's one right before it. Is it the one here?

What is it? Broken Arrow. Yeah, Christian Slater. Broken Arrow. Which is also a Christian Slater, Travolta Joint. Somebody just said it's good. It's great. Guy, calm down. I described it as good.

Because you just started it. It's good. And then I said, it's good. And you went, it's great. So, you just doubled down. I described the performances in this movie to be a jam and then. I'm going to be a jam and then. I'm going to be a jam and then. I'm going to be a jam and then. I'm going to be a jam and then.

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these movies. I mean it is nothing no like let me just show you this is jumping ahead but I just want to show you like the level of acting that's going on here this is just later on in the movie but we we don't plot wise, it's okay. Wait, wait, wait. Just so we know, is this Nicholas Cage as Travolta right now? Yes, okay. So yeah, we'll get into all of this,

but you get it, they change faces, but, but this is just a good, like, So if you can imagine it, if you've never seen the movie and you're listening at home, Like so if you can imagine it if you've never seen the movie and you're listening at home John Travolta is performing as Nicholas Cage. Yes, and Nicholas Cage is performing as

John Travolta now it's two bananas people Trying to out bananas each other Now the thing that I want to- You're welcome. The thing before he plays Cup that I want to even bring up, and I brought this up in the last episode, is that Nicholas Cage finished shooting Conair,

and within 12 hours was on the set of Face-Up. Shooting- Those 12 hours? Weak construction. Those 12 hours were deconstructing one wig and building the other. You have to. And the first scene, the four scene that they shot, you would think, oh well, we need to shoot the scene where Nick Cage is being Nick Cage and Drunk of Vult is being Travolta because that's what their bass sign will be for the rest of the movie.

No. The final scenes of the movie are the first scenes of this movie. So the boat scene was the first scene that they boat-chase. The boat-chase? Oh, if you are concerned that after airplane and helicopter chases with humvees, there might not be a boat chase?

There's a fucking boat chase. So, to me, I think like I'm even more impressed because here's two actors that didn't even get a chance to see what each other was doing before they started copying each other. I would argue. For the thrust of the film. I would argue the movie is better for it. Potentially yes. Here we go. Again, we're not jumping ahead to plot. We're just seeing the level of acting or power acting.

That's what I would call it. Power acting that goes on. Well, here's some poetic justice, sir. Caster Troy's dead. You got killed trying to escape from marijuana. Where's his body? I want to see it. Castor Troy's dead. You got killed trying to escape from marijuana. Where's his body?

I want to see his body. It hasn't been recovered yet. It hasn't been recovered yet? Get the LIPD on this. So I know it's small to kind of see, but that's about the level every scene hits. Like that kind of encapsulates. They are both going in and out of shouting in single conversations as if that's how we all

talk to each other. I feel like Travolta is genuinely trying to do like a Nick Cage a little bit, right? I mean he does a good job, isn't it? But I feel like Nick Cage is like fuck it. I'm just gonna do like a version of myself just a little tone down. Which is still enormous. It isn't enormous. Yeah. So again, just to reiterate, the premise is these two guys switch faces. Who now, I mean, I mean, so many places to go. Yeah, well,

Well, can we talk about the science? Yes, the science behind it. Randall, we can 100% talk about the, if we don't shame on us. Randall, we can 100% talk about them. If we don't, shame on us. Yeah. The science, first off, they're different blood types. Yeah.

I don't know. Which is a big plot. It's a huge plot point. I don't know, like I'm not that knowledgeable about science. You're not a scientist. I'm not a scientist. Okay, well, it's a big deal. But I'm assuming. We always want. You're not a scientist? I'm not a scientist. OK, well, it's a big way. But I'm assuming we always want to assert whether people

are not scientists. I'm not a scientist. But I'm assuming that different blood types. Well, I know one of them's O and one of them's AB. And I actually looked this up because I was like, I got to look this up. One of them's O. And that's the universal one where you could lie.

And one of them's AB. And that's the one where you can only kind of give to AB. So one of them's got to die. Because they're wearing the face of the other person? Yes. I guess that's true. I would also argue that if you were just to cut around your face,

it wasn't just get easily sucked off. Like when I smile, this skin is attached to muscle. No, no, no, it's barely. Mostly, your face is attached right around the rim. And so you have to cut the rim of the face, because that's where it's the strongest. The rest of it is just kind of like sitting atop mush. You know, if you pull really hard on your nose, your face will come out quite a bit.

But it's held in around the rim. So you cut that rim, guess what? Face off. I want to play two questions about science. One is his first just John Wu. John Wu does not talk very much during the director's commentary. But when the writers who were on this ask him a question about face swapping, let's see what he has to say. Here we go. Now, John, I know you would never say so at the time in the production, but did you ever have a moment when you felt like this was crazy and it was never

going to work? The whole idea of face swapping. Did you ever have doubt? No, no, I have never happened it out because I believe it could happen in the near future. And now it can. Yeah. John Wu on board. Now, here is just a little bit more so. And are we to believe? Are we to believe that this technology is in the hands of the FBI? Well, no, it's in a hand of an independent contractor.

Oh, it is? With the FBI. Yeah. Oh, OK. I thought they had the tech somewhere. The premise of this is crazy. And they run by it so quick. So not only are they're switching faces,

but then they're also getting intense liposuction hair. Like, if you have one that's more hairy chest, the other one is the hair plug. They literally said hair plug. Yes. Yeah. Their body is changing. Their voice is changing, which is the thing. Everything is changing, and they basically say,

well, with the pain meds we have now, you're back up on your feet and like, you know, half hour. Here's the thing. You get a broken nose and you're not on your feet in a half hour. Here's the thing. What this posits on a biologic level is so impossible. So as to necessitate that you don't look at it at all in the movie. It needs to be glossed over as quickly as possible. The person who delivers it is the person.

She delivers it like the micro machines guys. She's like, I'm over done, all right, yeah, we got to be good. And then they're like, they do the buzzsaw around the faces. They put the one face on Travolta, Bing-Bing Boom, now he's in prison, because who cares?

The whole time, the prison. The whole time I was like, there's gotta be a side effect, there's gotta be, you know, they have to do something. And literally the one side effect was like, he was like, my face itches. Yes. Oh, wait, you know what? And that was it.

That brings me to my point about this. So they put in, they say that, well, I have two points. They have to make sure their voice is matched. So they do that by, yeah. They're planning a microchip in their throat. They have to make their voices match. So they do that by planting a microchip in their throat. Now listen to the writers talk about that, and then I'll bring up my point. So here we have the laryngeal implant. We stuck in the word microchip as if that actually had some meaning to what a device like that would be.

And we never changed it and survived through all these drafts. We never came up with anything better. No one ever questioned it. A microchip stuck in anyone's larynx. Larynx, I don't think it would change their voice or anything and probably just give me infection, but there it is, microchip. So that was it.

It was a placeholder term that, yeah. Here's the thing. A microchip that didn't bother me at all. Now, I'm on board for this movie by now. You know why? Because they killed a kid. Then they had an action sequence, and I was like, I'm back. The problem is amazing.

The thing I want to talk about about that so they go, be careful. Because if you get hit in the throat or you have a harsh sneeze, the microchip won't work. Violence sneeze, sorry. Then for the rest of the movie, and Judge Roll to Asnic Cage, is getting punched in the throat repeatedly

with no ill effect. Gotta sing all ill effect. John a single ill effect. And also this movie takes place during allergy season, of course. And you would think people would get sick with all of the hand over the face going on throughout the whole movie. They're rubbing their hands on their faces. That is wildly unhygienic. That was improvised, the hand over the face. Oh, really?

Oh, that wasn't due to the script. It was a Academy of... You had to drag your foreigners across people's faces. By the way, if you don't know what we're talking about, this is very visual. It's enjoyable tovulta. Wipeed my face in a scene in an improvisational way. I would be like, get the fuck away from you.

You know. Um, this is, again, just to talk about this, is like we're all connected. He does it to a child. Um, this is amazing. Um, so, oh man. This is the intro. This is the intro.

Well, this is all, this is a more of a visual one for our audience here of all the face waterfalls. So if you're into the podcast, you don't get it. Face waterfall, face waterfall, face waterfall, face waterfall, face waterfall, face waterfall, face waterfall, face waterfall, a lot of baseball. A lot of baseball. Wait, and you know, you know it's not in there, is the one that he almost gives Tina Gershon and then thinks better of it. At one point he's like, oh, I'm not. Oh, no, that would be weird.

You're not my wife. Oh boy, I almost fucking face wiped you. I feel like that is the gesture that a fucking character in a movie that had magic would use to kill people. You become weak. Just like sleep. That's what they're just dragging their dirty fingers down each other's faces.

No thank you. No thank you. Oh my gosh, I feel like we should maybe call June at this point and we've talked for a little bit. See how it goes You're on you on me you could be on you Hey, June Hi, sorry, it's just me. You can see Jason too.

Welcome, June. So June. Good to be here. A couple thoughts. Just hit us with where you're thinking. We've talked about a couple things. But your initial reaction to the film. What?

What? Uh. For those of you who can't see it, you just did a face waterfall. Perfectly timed as we just played a montage of face waterfalls. You are connected to us, Leigh. Paul, you're keep saying face waterfalls. You are connected to us. Paul, you're keep saying face waterfalls? Yeah.

As if that's what it's called. I think it is. Is that what it's called? Is that a thing? Face waterfalls. Who see? Wait, what better term for it? Wait, did you make that up or is it really called that?

What I thought you said was face Paws. Oh. Faith. Faith. Which also made sense. Yeah. No, I mean, I, I, I, no, I did not make that. I mean, did, yes, I did make that up. You did? It's in my notes, it's Faith Waterfalls. So that, are you coining this phrase right now, Faith Waterfall? I'm saying how to just get make, coined it. Yeah.

Okay, cool. Let's get it up on a t-shirt, assholes. June, I'm going to be doing this. I'm saying how to just get make coined it. Yeah, okay cool. Let's get it up on a t-shirt assholes June talk to us because you didn't know what this movie is about just any thoughts that you have I loved it so much Okay, a couple random thoughts and and I'm so sorry if you guys have talked about this already. Did you talk about the wardrobe of the FBI agent slash flight attendant on the first flight? I'm going to say, of course not.

Okay, well here's my question about her. And I'm sorry, I can't hear everybody that well, but here's my question about her, and I'm sorry, I can't hear everybody that well, but here's my question. Was she supposed to be like a honey pot situation, like she was supposed to sort of be attracting him, or was it just like, she's just working as a flight attendant undercover? So you're wondering what her assignment was exactly? Well I guess I asked this because if she was supposed to be like a honey pot she was wearing I don't think honestly I don't think you could put more clothes on her. She was wearing a

rib like mock turtle neck like, like a mustard rib, like heavy mock turtle neck. Well, June, I think you need to remember that that Joan Allen is the sex part of this movie. Okay, because on top of the mock turtle neck, it was like a heavy, a heavy wool blazer. Yes. I think it was a matching blazer in pants. Yes, and pants and like a belt. Shaking her head and discussing. I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it.

I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it. June, let me ask you a question before you continue. Would you be attracted, or would you be interested if a man asked you to suck his tongue? That was so upsetting. Well, and I guess that was my question about her. So upsetting. So. Well, and I guess that was my question about her. I didn't know because it almost seemed like she knew

exactly what she was going to have to do. And she was up for it. And she was going to play the part. But if that was the case, and that was the outfit she chose? I mean, it was just, it was shocking. It was a real shocker. Well, I mean, she does a very bad job of it. She sucks his tongue a little and then is like,

immediately outs herself as FBI and is killed. That's true. So by the way, the second murder after a child is this female FBI agent at like minute 10. Who is thrown face first out of a moving airplane? Yes. Performing. Okay, talk a lot of their thoughts.

Yes, please. Well, couple other thoughts. Yes, please. Well, I have you guys. Have you talked about, okay, when Nicholas Cage escapes from sea prison? We'll get into sea prison, but yeah, this is good. You tell us and we'll go back. Go ahead. My jumping ahead.

Please, jump ahead, that's fine. Jump ahead. Okay, so there's an elaborate sequence where he's finally able to get to the rooftop and he realizes, oh god, I'm at sea. I've really got no way. He's on a prison oil rig. Yeah.

Yeah. And it's just this huge wide shot. And he's like, it's so upsetting. And then there's a helicopter, and the sequence goes on and on, and then finally, he just jumps into the water. So he jumps into the water. And the next shot is of him,

right like walking to a valet stand. He's that, he's that Spago, basically. Huh. How did he get there? He swam. Also, this is a prison that, like, they said, like, nobody knows about the Amnesty International, or I forgot all the, like, the Organizate. Nobody knows about the... Where was it?

Highly secretive. And he swam to Spago. You'll appreciate this, June. Just a little fact about that prison. The prison, John Woo recruited actual convex, ex-convex, to be extras in the prison scenes, and all the boots in from that were from Super Mario Brothers. LAUGHTER What?

Yes. I'm blown away by that. Yes. The boots are from Super Mario Brothers, and they cause many a mistake. The magnetic boots are from Super Mario Brothers, and they caused many a mistake. The magnetic boots are from the Goomba's costumes in Super Mario. They're made of real metal,

and we're super heavy, and cause a lot of problems for the actors and stuntmen. Because they were in metal boots doing full-on fights. Look at this woman. She has to go to the bathroom, and she's stuck. She couldn't get out of that door right there. Oh man, but she's gonna take a hot doos. When she comes back, we'll ask.

June, what else do you have? Well, I'm sure you guys won over this, but... I mean, and this was probably been discussed, but it seems like, and look, I love a body switcheroo movie. I love... I think I'm freaking Friday, too. I think it's so fun. Like Judge Ryan Hilton, Fred Savage, and Vice versa?

Exactly. I love watching a good old fashioned switcher row. But it did seem like, you know, it did seem there was a flaw to this logic of, well, it has to be John Travolta who jumps into his body and because he knows him so well, it seemed like actually because of all of this personal history and all of, you know, everything that's happened to him

because of this man, he's probably the one person who shouldn't do it. But they're the same height. They're the same height. I will say that John Dervolta is constantly shocked that he is Nicky. Like, ah, he's always scared. Every time he looks at the mirror, he pulls out a gun.

Yeah. Every time he sees himself in the mirror, think about this. He's seen the face of the man that murdered his son in the first scene. Anything else, June? Oh, man. June, how did you feel about,

did you, how did you feel about, like, did you have any reaction to, because Paul said you did not know that this was face switching. So when they started to go about switching the faces, how did you feel at that point? Oh, man. I, well, I couldn't watch the actual face switching. That's where I drew the line.

I said, you know what, I can't watch this. I can't see. I couldn't believe it. I mean, they gloss over that science so quickly. I mean, I just couldn't believe they were just switching faces. And then I just couldn't believe it. It was pretty shocking. It was pretty shocking.

Because I have always heard a face-off, and you see, I mean, it could mean so many things, you know? So to actually find out, no, they're gonna switch faces. I'm gonna switch faces. It's even more shocking in the fact that we did an episode of NTSF based on face-off that you were in. That references to the movie. I did get it. Yeah.

Get that. that you were in, that reference this movie. I mean, got it. Yeah. Get that. I mean, got it. Yeah. Get that. One of my favorite moments now that I'm just

musing on, it was when, when Joan Allen tells John Travolta that he's going to get his face switched back, and he's really excited. And she says, yeah, we have a surgical team coming in from DC. Who are they? I mean, there's some of the best guys, because guess what, they get it done. Can you see? Okay.

Can you just talk very briefly about the role of children in this movie and the violence around them? No, no, no. No. I honestly, it was, I mean, I watched it with Paul. It was too much for me to bear. It was too much for me to bear. The opening scene was too much to bear.

It was just, oh, the kid with the walkman. Yeah, that was upsetting. And then also, I'm sure you've gotten into it, but the daughter's reaction to seeing her dad, her dad, you know, kind of come onto her and actually progress it was just so, I mean, it was all really, really disturbing. But healing for them. What's so fascinating is Nicholas Cage, I mean, Travolta, as Nicholas Cage, infiltrating, going and living with Joan Allen and Lolita in that house, helps them heal as a family by having sex with Joan Allen and paying attention to her

and talking to the girl and defending her against one of the masters and boys. Like, what the fuck is going on? Nicholas Cage who is eight. What is for hire? For hire is like, you know what, a great bad. I'm gonna meet that. I'm gonna have this family back together. He did it. He did it. Oh yeah. June, I know it's hard for you to hear.

So we just wanted to check in with you and hear some of your musings. Yeah, last question. So do you think ultimately, because there's one beat where, and maybe you've talked about, we're Nicholas Cage's at the grave side of the boy that he killed. As John Travolta. And he does see... I'm sorry, no, not as John Travolta. Oh, yes. Yes. Yeah. As John Travolta, yes. Yeah. As John Travolta, yes.

Okay. So it seems that he feels remorseful. You think he feels bad for killing... Travolta's son. Yeah, I do think he does. I think he does a little bit. I think so too. Because he was not his intent. And also, later, he makes the point.

He tells Nick Cage or Travolta as Nick Cage. Yeah. It was a mistake. So should we say Travolta Cage and Cage Volta? It's too hard. It's too hard to keep track of. It's too hard. I want of. It's too hard. I want to just, well, because I know it's hard for you to hear, but I would absolutely

interact. June, can I ask you a question? This is for June and Paul together. If at the end of a tumultuous, violent series of events befell your family, and at the end of it, Paul came home with a strange child. That's exactly what I wanted to talk about. I'm sad.

I'll tell you what my reaction would be. Yes, go. Okay. Okay. Okay. And that is, that is June. The last line of the movie. Okay, well, no. Okay.

Oh, so what? We're gonna raise this kid now because the other kid's dead? Okay, why not? I guess we're doing this. I'm Joe Nellen. Also, like, no discussion of the impact it has on their other daughter. No. The other daughter runs right to his face and gives him a face waterfall. Face a waterfall.

Yes. Right out the gate. I would argue that this kid would be better served in the foster care system than with this family. Alright, June, thank you so much. We're going to continue talking here. Thanks you guys, we'll see you next time. Love, fresh up the toilet, Randall. Alright. So they switch faces. They go to this prison which the prison is insane

They have magnetic boots that lock them to the floor But they don't seem to use that like they let them fight Willie nearly like they really do but he goes in there to like to get this information and I would say he knows that that Travolta switches faces because he knows that Nicholas Cage has planted this bomb. Yes, that's going off in the old For why who cares who knows? It's a very long time. Yeah, why would you put a bot like anyone could find it eight days? You don't like don't find out hours is more of a alright. I buy that but you don't find out until the end

I'm more of a, all right, I buy that, but it doesn't find out until the end, too, that it's because there's gonna be Supreme Court Justices there. And so that- And the act of terrorism is like, we gotta get rid of three Supreme Court Justices. And I don't, I don't know, man, I don't know much about- Because then the incumbent president can nominate people, then he's like, at least that thing was going on. To me, it's like, I don't know much about Supreme Court Justice, but I don't think that they do. You sure? I know a little. I know Clarence Thomas told me, put that pew butt

as that cocaine. Yep. Uh, remember that? That was like this dumb thing. I guess it wasn't dumb, it was such a harassment. But it was. It's fine. It's just a pub on a cocaine.

But to me, it's like, they wouldn't be that much security there for Supreme Court justice. They don't travel with like secret service, do they? I think they probably do. I think Supreme Court justice has have security. Right, wouldn't they? OK, no, yeah. You guys seem to be split on this.

All I'm saying is he could have gone in like two days before, not like eight. But he goes down there and he pulls the move that I think is the worst. If you're undercover and trying to pretend that you're somebody, he thinks, I'm Caster Tro! Yeah. I'm Caster Tro! I'm Caster Tro!

He yells that for a long time. Yeah. I want to talk about the fact that when the dad from Fargo, who is, uh, Travolta's boss is killed, yes. Who just so happens to be having a heart attack? Yeah, yeah. He appears to be being buried in a beach church. Oh, yeah, some sort of church that's on the beach.

And this is like a policeman? This is like a blue collar like elderly police guy. And he's like, I want to be buried like moon doggy from Gidget. He's like a legendary figure in the police force and there's like 25 people. Yeah, like a poorly attended service. It's the weirdest, the weirdest setup. And then we just need to get them by the water.

That's really only reason why it was there. Where doves are for some reason. Lots of doves. That's where the doves are. Yeah, you would think that they were like, get these fucking doves out of here. No, they should be seagulls. They really should be seagulls.

John, who's like more doves? Give me more doves. So basically, this is on the DVD commentary. But early on in the JL sequences, the writers have written a scene in which Castor and Pollock's, Pollock's, Castor's brother, who knows all the secrets that's why I have to go to jail.

They said they wrote this scene that talks about their past and what that turned them into a life of crime. Nick Cage threw out all of that and improvised the backstory so that he's a bad guy because his father made him wear a pink dress, which was also cut from the movie. Improvise the backstory so that he's a bad guy because his father made him wear a pink dress, which is also cut from the movie. So, that's a level in which we're working. Very big scene.

Nah, let's do this instead. And then that was cut out. So there is nothing really in that scene to show a connection. Can I ask, this is a genuine question I have, because I'm thoroughly confused. The bald guy and Gina Gershon's character. Yes, they're siblings, right?

They are. Yet they have a really sexual like kiss. No, you're right. I saw that, too, the brother and sister, and he kisses her heart. Yeah. Like why? Are they brother and sister?

Yes. Yes. Because he says when he's interrogating him, he's like, I'm going to make it hard for your sister. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Oh, OK, OK, OK. Why do they kiss like that? That mean I wrote down the exact same thing.

I said, I can't like that. That's my pretty hard. Too bad guys are incestuous. You know what I mean? Like, you know how bad these guys are? Even like the morality of incest means nothing to that. It was really gross, and I really respect the Gina Gershaw's character.

I'll put it in the bar. I was into it. I couldn't quite get a handle on it. I mean, this movie is comical. It would be as if the three of us all had guns two in each, you know, two in one in each hand, and we're shooting each other here, and we miss. Nobody can ever hit a target ever with bullets.

Like literally, they do a raid of the bald guy and Gina Gershaw's apartment. The cops have, like they have a leg up. Oh yeah. And in an apartment full of windows. I don't think anyone gets killed. Nobody. Only by very close range shots.

Yeah, people get killed. No, dude, drop out of the ceiling with machine guns and are like Nobody gets hit and then somebody's like and that guy's like oh, then It is shocking The amount of got the amount of gunplay to number of people that gets killed is crazy. It is a shameful ways to be an ammunition. So you want to know why they never shoot each other and kill each other. By the way, the end of the movie in which they finally kill Nick Cage improvised, right? Everything improvised in this movie. But here's a great point.

The Nicholas Cage realizes why they never can hit each other and he believes he goes, oh I get it, archer and Troy are in love with each other. What? Nicholas Cage believes that they can't kill each other because they're in love with each other. So this is a romantic comedy between these two gentlemen. According to the new exchange, he viewed this film as these two men are in love with each other. That's why they can't kill each other. I'm by-by-it.

I guess so. Well, there's also a lot of, obviously, because of the face switcheroo. There's a lot of looking, longingly, at themselves in the mirror. There is like a very, what's happening is very interesting. It is both, it is, it is, it must be challenging their sense of self. And as such, could lead to, I love myself, I look like that. I must love that, even though that is not me technically, it is me.

Well, maybe they are in love with each other because also they're walking a mile in each other's shoes, that's for sure. The original ending, by the way, took place in a mirror factory. Oh, wow. Well, I mean, yes, that's interesting. I love that. I want to see that. One of the best sequences in the movie

is when they're both on either side of a mirror. That's the mirror. And they're both looking at the person they want to shoot, but they're actually looking at themselves. Well, I have this like, it indulged me for a second. I have an interesting kind of, I'm probably reaching here, but I had just seen going clear,

the HBO documentary about Scientology. So I couldn't watch this movie. I saw it right before watching the movie. I couldn't watch it. The perfect appetizer for this meal. I could not watch it. The perfect appetizer for this meal. I could not watch it without thinking or searching for kind of science-ology references. And I thought this is a science-ology movie while I'm watching it.

So, the death of Michael, the kid, That's like his past trauma, right? Right. The end gram. Is the end gram? That's like his trauma. That's like what he's working out. The switching faces, having to face himself, essentially. Right, right.

That's like auditing, right? That's like auditing. The two guns in the hands. That's the cans of the e-meter. Whoa! Right? They're on a boat. That's the sea or. I love it.

And at the end, he becomes a fetan, an operating fetan. That's my theory. I don't know. Wow. And also, and also, not that this means much, Danny Masterson. No, it's Scientology. Sure. Well, here's the thing. In a weird way, I mean, this movie posits that it doesn't posit.

It does. Like, at the end of the movie, he just basically takes Castro Trois kid. He's like, okay, back, back to normal now. Yeah. And he's like, I got one. I got one back. Like, you took my kid? I want everybody here to imagine what that kid's going through. Everybody he's known his entire life is dead.

His mother, his uncle, all the other bad guys that he's apparently growing up in a loft with. We're murdered in front of him, okay? Now, Travolta is like, you're gonna be my kid now. I don't know where he gets them from either, because it seems like he got the Face Off operation. Joan Allen doesn't go to the hospital, pick them up. She's like, oh, come on, he's ready.

He's ready. And on the way home, he's like, oh, I picked up Chinese food. He's like, oh, I picked up this kid. Like, it was like, you just picked up this kid? This movie, the sequel to this movie, should be the point of view of that kid, and he's living in like some nightmare world, where he's like, this is, they just want me to be the dead son.

Yes, because he does. This kid, poor Adam, is gonna live the rest of his life being called Michael. And by the way, he should have good feeling for that, because the minute, Kage's Travolta sees him, he goes, oh, Michael, and grabs him. Like, so does every child Michael dance? Because that's not healthy. I don't know, but at the end there,

like you feel like, okay, maybe this Adam kid is like, you know, he's probably gonna go through some issues. But then you know he's gonna be okay as soon as he gets the face waterfall. Oh yeah. He's like fine. The minute I walk into a strange house and they're like, can we keep him?

And everybody's like, of course. And Trabolt is like, what's your show? By the way, the same ending of Goonies when they fucking take Slaw. Like mom, dad, we keep him, yeah. What the fucking animal. Sloth is, how dare you? Sloth is not an animal.

That kid is going to go up to Michael's room, look around and be like, you already got a room for you. Yeah, yeah, that kid's life is a nightmare. That girl comes at Tim and is like, like runs her fucking fingers down his face. I'd be like, and I'm out of here. I also, I would rather live on the street.

I also want to get in with this family. But how about this? But by the way, his mom is no better because his mom basically, Gina Gershon, C's cage and is going to fucking, he like kind of pushes her off because he likes Joan Allen. And then she's like, oh, okay, well, here, meet your kid. But wait, so that kid was just waiting outside the door.

Like, she was like, oh, and now you come in. It wasn't like, like, it was like, well, I'll fuck him and then I'll bring the kid. So just wait, you wait here. Listen to your mom get the bone. I feel like the kid waits behind a wall. A lot of this movie. Like at the end, too, he's just waiting

until like, triple to break them out. I like to. I like to that she was like, what, you want me to just jump on top of you? And he's like, what? And then she's like, jumps on top of him. And he's like, is this what you want? I was like, what is going on here?

Do you guys think that the title face-off was ever in the movie? I don't remember it. I don't remember it. I ever in the movie? I don't remember anybody saying the words face remember face and off together. Oh really? I don't recall that. I don't recall it. To answer the first question, face-off was not ever mentioned in the movie. Nick Cage improvised this monologue, which we're about to hear. So, once we kidnapped Supercom, then what? I like to take his face off. Yes. Excuse me, I have news to you, little boys, we we are empty.

Yes. Little boys we we are Cat You want to take his face? Yes, this face eyes Know skin coming off. The face. And that is how you improvise in a movie. Knowing that that was improvise feels like, yeah, yeah, that's great. That's face off a million.

Poor Nick Kassevetties. So it has to be like, wait, please don't put this in the movie. Please, you promised me you wouldn't put this take in the movie. So they don't take his eyes, right? They take it. No. Because when he's just, when Nick Cage has his face, like when he comes out of his coma, and he has like ketchup all has his face, when he comes out of his coma, and he has ketchup all over his face,

he's watching a video, remember? His eyes are there. I'm just kidding. No, he's smoking a cigarette without a fake. He's just a plastic shield. I mean, it's like the worst, the worst mass you could ever buy in a Halloween costume. It was ketchup.

It really was. Oh gosh. Again, I want to reiterate, this movie is great. It's incredible. Before we go to the audience and talk about a couple of things, I want to just talk to you about the actors that were considered for these roles. Oh my god. Okay. Schwartz and Eger and Stall for these roles. Oh. Oh my God. Okay.

Schwarzenegger and Stallone. Awesome. Awesome. Awesome. Wow. Who do you think would play the hero in the villain in that? I think Stallone is the Travolta and Schwarzenegger is the Cage. I agree with that.

Harrison Ford and Michael Douglas. Well, this is a Michael Douglas produced movie. Well, Michael Douglas was originally going to star in this movie. That's what got John Wu invested in it. Everyone got on board. It was going to take place in the future. It took away the future stuff.

And Michael Douglas then dropped out. And yeah, so basically, Michael Douglas had taken out the futuristic stuff and yeah so that was I mean it was basically Michael Douglas is a me know a little part of taking Michael Douglas and Harrison Ford but they're not what's great about this is that it's so hammy yeah they are mugging so hard both of them right you know Michael Douglas and Harrison Ford could have been as real snoozer.

Well, Harrison Ford would have been the good guy and Michael Douglas the bad guy. Yeah. Right? Then Bruce Willis and Alec Baldwin. I'm very on board for that period. I really like that movie. Here's another one.

I would go either way with the roles. And the last two are pretty great John Cloud Van Damme. Yes Steven Segal Wow That would have been really great and finally Al Pacino and Robert De Nero Amazing. I mean that would have been a great movie, too. That would have been pretty great. Why the wait Why shouldn't we just make all of those movies? Yeah. Why don't we just hire everyone?

I would watch a trilogy. I would like to take all of those and just shoot one scene from this movie with each of those pairings. Originally the cage turned down the role because he didn't want to play the villain, but then was told he'd actually been playing the hero because the face thing.

He's, oh, I'm in. All right, let's go to the audience here. If you have questions, I know we haven't addressed a lot of things, but this is a long movie and there's a lot of questions. We are going to give away for good questions, some toys from Me co-toys. We've got sons of anarchy stuff in here We got a bunch of cool shit in here. All right, so here we go. What's your question right here? Sir your name Who would you like to see as a pair in face-off in your question? I don't have to hold on to the mic

My name is Lance I Would like to see this movie starring Gary Bucy and Kevin Costner. Great. Wow. And actually my- I'm very into that. And actually my question was going to be, living or dead any actor, who would you like

to see as this pair, who would you be your cast or who would be your archer? Oh, living or dead. There's gonna be a real thinker. Get a toy for that question. Get a plushie. Plushie's son's vanarchy. I'm gonna say Nicholas Cage as Caster Still, and then replace Travolta with Nicholas Cage. I was just pulling to say...

...out to that. That's where I'm at. The only way this movie could be better? Double Cage. I'm thinking, I'm still thinking. I'd like to see like some really like serious well respected like Serbeng, Serbeng Kingsley, and Meryl Streep. I think that would be amazing. Street. Well, that would be amazing.

Then I'll go for the old version of Face Off and say, in McKellen and Patrick Stewart. That's a good, that's, by the way, that's an Academy Award winning movie. How about a sequel to Face Off which takes place like 40 years after the first one and those actors play the same two characters. I'll be in. I'll be 100% in. All right, here we go. You're, sir.

You're pairing. Your question, go. Um, yeah, as far as pairing, I think I'd be on board. I think you got to go female. OK, great. Sophia Vagara. And... Oh, Lucille Ball.

Oh, wow. Sophia Vagara. And Lucille Ball. Oh, wow. And who? The Philadelphia Vagara and Lucille Ball. I didn't even know what that is, and I love it. That movie is rad, especially because if we shot it now, Lucille Ball would be a corpse. Well, it's a living in dead, living or dead. I want to see the female version. Okay, your question.

Well, actually, it's a nice segue, because I felt jet. Really? Yeah, at the end of this movie, I feel like, you know, we had fat guys becoming skinny, skinny guys, fat. No taboo left unturned. That little boy shows up at the house, and I think to myself, you know who he's the same hide-ass? The dead son.

Why aren't we digging up the dead boy? Amazing. You get a toy for this. Guy gets it. We've got the technology. Let's fucking slip a new face on this kid. It can't fuck him up any more than he's already fucked up. No, that's a great idea. And you're right. They were at the exact same height. So that's all that matters. Yeah.

Oh, man, that's a great. Maybe they do eventually do that. They just have to get him up in the newsroom. OK, yes, ma'am, your question. You're pairing in your question. Bill Pullman and Bill Paxton. Nice. And why didn't the wife notice when they were intimate

that it wasn't her husband? They've been married for at least 15, 20 years. Did they change everything? So you're saying explicitly that his dick must have been different. Well, I was gonna say this movie, this movie shows no restraint, but because I feel like, but in that category they did, because they didn't have like one of those scenes where they had to do the exact... There was no sex. Well, they didn't look at other dick and go,

whoa. All right. Like, you know, I feel like that's always in these body switching movies, they check out their dick. Well, no, they don't switch bodies, they just switch faces. So they still get the wrong dicks. But their bodies are totally changed. No, okay, sorry. Their bodies are totally changed. Yeah, because they take the hair out of the chest. But they don't, they don't.

That's all they said, the hair out of the chest, and an abdominal plastic. Right, oh, the dicks are the same. They should have said, they should have said, they should have said they are the same height and have identical genitalia. And you guys are negatively different in height and your junk looks pretty the same.

So how many people do you think that they kept their same dicks by a pause? Applause. Now, wait, now I have a question. Why, how many people think they did not keep, oh, because that is going to interfere with your question or no? Go ahead. How many people think they did not change Dix?

Okay, now, this one's for the ladies. Do you think you would notice if your husband's dick was markedly different. Well, they've been married for a long time. They've been married for a long time. You're Joan Allen. So I don't know if you're like blowing anybody. And they hadn't had a successful date and then in a while.

Yup, it's been two months. Yeah, two months. Two months, extra two months. What? Ladies, would you recognize it? She's a doctor? Okay, so this girl here is saying that Joan Allen is a doctor. So she's medically...

So she must know about Dix? She's a Dix specialist. But she's examining you and she's all day long just fondling dogs at the hospital. What is she a purf? Oh, yeah, yeah. She's some kind of Joan Allen dick duck. She gives them all the ginseng. Don't get me wrong, I like an exam.

A full ball exam. That was such a good question and give you this Michael Baybook that we got. Alright, who's all right? You're shaking your hand. That means that you have a good question. Alright, here we go. Alright, you're pairing your question. Oh.

Wait, you had your hand up. No, move, I moved, I moved. What the fuck are you doing? What, you had your hand raised? Paul came up to you and shat your pants. Sir, here we go, what do you got? You got a notebook out, I know you're not going to let me down. Can I do my pairing?

Please. I would say Jason Statham and Liam Neeson. I like that. I like that a lot. And then my question is when Castatroy wakes up in the hospital, he's unguarded. There's no medical staff. And he looks outside his window and the only thing he can see in the darkness is John Travolta's face.

That's what I'm saying. It's a really good point. Oh, you mean John Travolta's face in the face juice? Yeah. It's sailing. Yeah, it's sailing. By the way, why would they keep that out in the center of the room?

They wouldn't even put that in the fridge, you'd think. Like, it may go bad. What should I do with this other face? Oh, just leave it in the center of the room. They're going to put that in the fridge, you think. Like, it may go bad. What should I do with this other face? Oh, just leave it in the face, too. It's fine. Should anybody be watching? It means in a coma. It doesn't matter.

Yeah, he's a dog up party. Yeah, they should have maybe watched him because that face-off thing woke him up, I mean, clearly. They also should have, like, I feel like, here's the deal. If I'm Travolta, I'm like, hey, guys, keep my fucking face under lock and key. Like, this shit is pretty fucking wide to me.

Like, lock it up. Somewhere safe. Don't leave it in some fucking juice. Don't throw my fucking face in some apple juice and leave it next to fucking Nicholas Cage. And why did it have to be so secret? Because no one was gonna get into that prison to tell Pollock's, right?

Pollock's, by the way, was instantaneously suspicious of him. Yeah, yeah. As if to think, was instantaneously suspicious of him. Yeah. As if to think, I wonder if this is a face switch. By the way, the smartest character, he just called me bro. My brother doesn't usually call me bro. Face switch? Probably face switch. Guess I'll marry Emily Mortimer. Well, obviously we had an opinion about this movie, but there are some people who had

a different opinion. It is time for second opinions. This is a second opinion. All right, this is there are some great ones here Amazing ones all out of the gate. I'll just start with this one from one need a Clifton. She writes good movie for older people Not little kids. Oh, I do dislike cage's character. He's a real scumbag. Five stars.

From my lean munoz, she goes, it's very beautiful. I love it. It's what I wanted, and I'm glad I found it. Thank you so very much. I will be doing so recommending of this very beautiful piece. I will be doing so much very recommending. Yes. Yes, that is that. This one from Danny, one of my favorites,

Danny wrote this back in 2000, simpler time. Um, this blast die hard right out of a building, it sends it flying down 33 stories, it jump kicks the matrix and breaks it back on a granite wall. Wow. It grabs Cliff Fanger by the throat and throws it onto a pile of jagged rocks. Yes, this movie kicks major buttocks.

It's a story of an FBI agent in a terrorist who changed identities to get a first-hand glimpse of how the other lives his own lifestyle. This used to be my favorite flick for about two years until I watched it so much that it just played out completely. I don't know. This... His amazing review includes the part where he doesn't like it anymore. Amazing movie, flawless, until I watched it so much that I realized it's terrible. Here's another one. If you don't like this movie, you're a wimp. Five stars.

I thought this film was great. I had never heard of Nicholas Cage before. And now I'm a big fan. What? Oh my God. And then that's shocking. And then this one, can you imagine a world in which you've never seen or heard Nicholas Cage ever do anything?

And then you saw this movie. You'd be like, what's happening here? Is this guy okay? Was there not like someone unset being like, hey, hey, guy, cool it? This one is titled Words Can't Say How Great This Movie Is. All in Caps, a lot of exclamation points. This was my favorite movie ever.

It was pretty nasty and cool. My little girls thought it was sick. Wow. Five stars. Where is little girls? Yeah. I think that's supposed to be read. My little girls thought it was sick.

Obviously, this movie don't feel dumb that you like this movie because it got a 91% on Rotten Tomatoes. Because it's awesome. Again, I didn't think we should do this movie for a reason. But I feel like we did it for the right reasons. Margaret Cho, in this movie, simply because John Woo's daughter liked her.

It's a dad you need to hire her. And he said, okay. Really? That was what he says in the DVD commentary. His daughter likes Margaret Cho. He's like, oh yeah, put her in the movie. That's awesome. Yeah.

And he has that one great moment where she's like, did you get surgery? Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, that's great. Let me say to get that stick out of your ass. Yeah, that was a great moment. Sing, great. Great comedy moment.

There's so much that they improvised. Face waterfall, the face soft monologue, the ending with the spear gun, the everything. Oh, did you mean during the boat chase? Yeah. You mean like the 30 minute boat chase that happens? When one boat jumps through another boat? They're both in competing scarpas or whatever they are.

Scarrobes? Yeah. I am a scar- Scarpa's a little chock- That's where I checked out in the movie. And I remember watching an original, the boat chase doesn't do it for me. Nah, that's pretty great.

I'm like, how does- That is where you're wrong. As Junsaid. At the whole time I was thinking, see org. That's all I was thinking. Junsaid to me, how many times are they gonna face off?

Are you serious? She thought they were like this face off once. She's like, they're always facing off. Are you serious? She thought they would just face off once. She's like, they're always facing off. Yeah. Oh, my movie. Wow. I want to show you guys the end scene that was not in the film.

So this is the alternate ending scene. We'll watch it and then I can kind of describe to you those that are not here. Let's take a look at the alternate ending, which is pretty amazing. So it ends the same way I imagine they adopt this kid. It's nighttime. Joan Allen's got on a very sexy outfit.

It's almost like Gandalf's cloak. She's, no, it's fucking Galadriel, man. So she's, Alan is Galadriel. And so she's prepping the bed, getting it ready for a moment. That bureau is distracting it is. John Travolta, is that the sink? Sean? She goes and check on him. It puts his head down in his sink.

He turns up. I'll explain this to you at home. Okay, so let me explain what just happened here. So, and we need to talk about this. All right, so this is the original ending. So, John Travolta is looking at himself in the mirror. He's like, oh, God, it's been a crazy couple days. And, um, crazy week and a half.

And, um, this has been a really yipes. Puts his head down to be like, oh, fuck it. Looks up and he is Nicholas Cage. Now, Joan Allen comes in, sees the reflection of Nicholas Cage and goes, so they are sharing a hallucination, right? I guess. They are sharing a, it's a a hallucination, right? I guess. They are sharing a hallucination.

And then he looks back and it's John Travolta. So my question is, now that Studio May John, who cut that because he said it was too ambiguous, I don't understand what it even is ambiguous about. Like, he's still Nick Cage? No. But is he? What?

Like, will he always be Nick Cage? What do you mean? You don't mean, you don't mean. Are you theorizing that they didn't switch the faces back and that it's still Nicholas Cage as Travolta? No. I'm hypothesizing that a little piece of Nicholas Cage is still in Travolta and I know that's impossible

because it's only about the faces. But I can't feel like they went dark and now he'll always be dark, although he was dark in the beginning, too. Well, I do think they've now walked and my own each other's shoes, as I said. And I feel like Travolta has a little bit of cage inside of him now, for sure.

Yeah, maybe they both, throughout this whole or a whole ordeal, they've both been traumatized by this experience. They both need to jump on an e-meter. Ha ha. And be audited again and start the whole process over. Wait a second. Are you saying that Castor Troy is a suppressive person? Yes. He's an SP, clearly.

Wait, no, but my question is, why does Joan Allen see? My question is, where is Shelley Miss Kevitch? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Alan prefers sex with Travolta, Travolta, or Cages Travolta. Cages Travolta, right? I would actually have liked a scene where Cages Travolta is Fucked. No, Cages Travolta. Oh, Gina Gershon. Gina Gershon is like, oh, that was terrible. Why are you crying so much?

I thought that was Michael. And who's Michael? Hey, don't you think it was, I just wanted to talk about it before you end up doing, wasn't it a telltale sign that like, Travolta was evil when he started traveling with the two gangsters. Like, hey, not. Coppers, I go, yeah, now they've got these two gangsters. Like, yeah, you're a fucking bad guy.

There's no doubt about it. Well, the idea that he could come home, what I do, and I do love this movie, and what I love about it is they do the face swap, and whether it's Travolta in Cage's body with his Nick Kessivetti's Gina Kurshant, or Caj and Travolta's body with his family. Nobody bats an eye.

Everybody's a little bit like, hey, you okay? Yeah, what do you mean, nothing? Because for as much as Travolta was to know Caj, he doesn't really seem to get what's going on. No, like you'd only go, you, I busted, I mean, Sean Archer busted you. Yeah. Or he'd go, or when she's like, well, where are you going?

And it's like the sun's birthday, and they need to go to the graveyard or whatever. And he's just like, what? OK, bye. And she's like, don't try and get out of it, Mr. everything's so conveniently like, it's sol and get out of it, Mr. You know, everything's like so conveniently like, it's solvable, but like, he's a stranger, even though he has Travolta face, he's like a stranger to Joe Nellie.

To me, he also drives past, like he drives past his own house, and, but it didn't seem clear to me that he was even driving to the house. Like, it seemed like he may have just passed it by accident, because he overshot, he didn't seem clear to me that he was even driving to the house. Like, it seemed like he may have just passed it by accident. Because he overshot and he didn't feel like... Like, he just away overshot it. And she's like, oh, I figured you wouldn't know where you're on the house. She's only a matter of time before you forgot where we lived.

She's completely confused and he drops that line on her. He says, I hate to see you leave, but I'd love to watch you go. Yeah. And she's just like totally charmed. Yes, yeah. Because guess what? Not a lot of people are giving Joan and Ellen a couple of ass compliments.

By the way, did you think he was going to fuck the daughter? I thought he was going to have a good time. Oh, he totally fucked the daughter. Yeah, totally. Right? All right, so right. Obviously, I think we all recommend seeing this movie, right? It's incredible.

100%. Let's look at it. So, I think we did it just because I think we did. Randall, anything you want to promote talk about? Well, we are on a show together called Fresh Off the Boat. Super fun, you show. It's on ABC at Tuesdays at 8 and it's a great show. And you can catch up on the ABC app.

Just go check it out if you haven't seen it. Jason? I did an episode of Community that's online right now on Yahoo! Which everybody should go watch. I don't know, that's about it. Yeah, I got nothing. I got what we talked about fresh out the boats, we did it. Oh, yeah.

How did this get made podcast? Oh, that's good. On Ear Wolf? Definitely check out this. Anybody's in New York, we're going to be at Irving Plaza. Yeah, but you can't come to it. Oh, it's good. On earwolf? Definitely check out that. If anybody's in New York, we're gonna be at Irving Plaza. Yeah, but you can't come to it. Oh, it's sold out. Yeah. Ha ha.

Ha ha. And if you are listening to this and you plan on coming to see us in New York, don't buy any of those scalp tickets. We'll be back. You don't have to pay 150 bucks for a ticket. That's for tickets. Yeah, don't buy scalp tickets, guys.

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