How Did This Get Made? - Rock Star LIVE! w/ Jake Weisman (Classic)

Episode Date: May 5, 2026

Mark Wahlberg and his wig play the lead singer of a heavy metal tribute band who ends up joining the real band in 2001's Rock Star. Comedian Jake Weisman (This Fool, Corporate) joins Paul, June, and J...ason at Largo in L.A. to discuss the massive orgy scene, if Jennifer Aniston's character founded Starbucks, nipple piercings, and if this movie became a Jacob's Ladder Scenario after Izzy falls off stage. Plus, the audience tries to convince us they're British during the Q&A. (Ep. #182 Originally Released 02/16/2018) • Go to hdtgm.com for tour dates, merch, FAQs, and more• Have a Last Looks correction or omission? Leave us a voicemail at speakpipe.com/hdtgm• Submit your Last Looks theme song to us here• Join the HDTGM conversation on Discord: discord.gg/hdtgm• Buy merch at howdidthisgetmade.dashery.com/• Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of Trauma• Shop our new hat collection at podswag.com• Paul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheer• Paul’s YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheer• Follow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer• Subscribe to Enter The Dark Web w/ Paul & Rob Huebel: youtube.com/@enterthedarkweb• Listen to Unspooled with Paul & Amy Nicholson: unspooledpodcast.com• Listen to The Deep Dive with June & Jessica St. Clair: thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcast• Instagram: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & @junediane• Twitter: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & msjunediane  • Jason is not on social media• Episode transcripts available at how-did-this-get-made.simplecast.com/episodesGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Sex, drugs, and lots and lots of wigs. We saw rock stars, so you know what that means. How did Schwarzenegger Grove baby in his belly rock a Ron Stone vest while ripping just into Kelly or maybe see a burlash show with Nick Crow and take a boat with speed to hitting cruise control. J-man, Big Paul in the beautiful June, gonna take you from the goon all the way to the room. Ran the Games and Street Fighter help to blow off steam. Just a sucker punch the odd life of Timothy Green. Shark needle, the bird demic, how we stand a lot.
Starting point is 00:00:38 They call it in the badass, and he's on the line. Cranking 88 minutes because they cool as ice. Because a bad Jim, Barney, looking kind and nice. Paul and June getting literal. Jason is getting laid. June is making sure all the monkey shots getting paid. They're just a bunch of movies while they're making the grade. Here's a real question for you.
Starting point is 00:00:55 How did this get made? How are excited to talk to you about tonight's movie, the 2001 classic rock star. Yes, this movie is almost 20 years old, and that bums me out. Here to talk about that movie is my co-host. Please welcome. Jason Manzoukis. Welcome.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Welcome, Jason. How are you, Paul? I'm doing good. Are you? This, I've seen this movie twice. I have a question. Is it a movie, though? I watch this movie and I was like,
Starting point is 00:02:02 this whole movie seems like a trailer for a movie that I don't care to watch. I'd argue a bigger question. If it is a trailer, what genre is it? Also, I have a second question. Does Jennifer Aniston age? No. You said just said this movie came in 2001.
Starting point is 00:02:23 She is identical. If you told me it came out last week, yeah, sure. And Mark Walker. Mark Wahlberg too. These are ageless people. Are these people eternals? Are they the immortals?
Starting point is 00:02:37 Are they Highlanders? What is a Highlander? We will figure it out. You know, speaking of which, making her triumphant return to the podcast, please welcome out. Take it in, June. Hi, Paul.
Starting point is 00:03:10 How are you? Welcome home, June. Welcome home. It's good to be here. So the reason why I watched this movie twice is because I watched it and then I watched it again with you. I've never had the experience before where I've watched a movie. I usually say things to Paul and comment and we talk a little bit. I watched this in silence.
Starting point is 00:03:33 It's true. I was checking and making sure that you were awake at certain points. Yeah, but I was. Because you liked it so much? I didn't know what the fuck was going on. You asked me some concerning questions. The one question I asked, a number of times was, is this a comedy? You, I will say, and I don't want to spoil it.
Starting point is 00:03:53 for the audience, but you did say, I would say, a good 20 minutes in, you go, so wait a second. He sings in a cover band? That was, I was, and I was, like, yeah. I hope your answer was, no, babe, a tribute band. My first note is, oof, this is bad. That does not bode well.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Well, joining us tonight is a very special guest. This guy is a part of this hilarious new show on Comedy Central. It's called Corporate. It airs every Wednesday at Templeam. Please welcome Jake Weissman. Welcome, Jake. Thank you for having me. And we were talking backstage. You have seen, like you saw this movie before it was assigned to you as part of this podcast. Yeah, I actually have watched it twice, but the first time I didn't realize it was just two hours of watching the guitar hero title sequence.
Starting point is 00:05:05 But yeah, I've seen it a bunch. I mean, I love it. It's the worst movie I've ever seen, but it's hard not to love. It is an odd movie because it's very pure in what it's saying. I mean, so Mark Wahlberg in this film, he is the lead of a tribute band, and just to give you like a brief outline of the plot,
Starting point is 00:05:24 and is then quickly brought into the actual band that he tributes as the lead singer. Wait, can I ask a quick question? Is he in Pittsburgh as the lead singer of the... I thought this whole movie took place in California and they never left. But, okay, it doesn't matter. Keep going. Yeah, no, I think he is in Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 00:05:43 And he is in Pittsburgh and they get on a plane and go to California. But then they end up in Seattle, right? Ew. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Sorry, go ahead. Yeah, I don't know. Well, anyway, basically, that's all you need to know.
Starting point is 00:05:55 And it's loosely based on the, I guess, this guy, Ripper Owens, who was pulled in to be the lead singer of Judas Priest. But it's not his story. It's just like a guy or gal heard that story. He was like, that's a movie. And then, and didn't do any more research after that. Just like, just basically heard, did you hear that there was a dude who got put in Jesus priest? Yeah, make out a movie.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Great. Do no more research. And then the movie goes. It's a weird movie because your hero is essentially fighting for being unoriginal. Like that's the word. where we like, what we are... Which his brother says to him at one point. His brother basically is like,
Starting point is 00:06:42 you don't even want to... It's in the trailer there. You don't even want to do your own thing. You just want to sing someone else's songs. Yes. Yes. I agree with the brother? His bandmates who at points
Starting point is 00:06:56 want to riff and like go off and create their own songs. Write their own songs. And it is a strange position we as an audience are in which is to root for the creative force that simply wants to mimic what has already been done. Well, pay tribute to.
Starting point is 00:07:13 And his reward is you get to pay tribute to this band by now being in this band. It's weird because it's kind of like, it's such a lame thing to base a movie on. It's like telling someone they'll never be a substitute teacher. It's like, you won't do it. I mean, you could. But you won't.
Starting point is 00:07:34 And again, I feel like there's a lot of things that play in the film where basically like you see this guy's life and it's a sad life. He clearly lives at home with his parents past the time that is appropriate. They're making
Starting point is 00:07:51 him wear this wig. By the way though and listen the first 20 minutes this was a loose watching for me. There were other things going on so I say this with a grain of salt but all of the small children in that house
Starting point is 00:08:07 Were those as brothers and sisters? I thought this for a while too. Okay. But then at one point, at one point the mother answers the phone and says something like sunshine child care or something like that. And I was like, oh.
Starting point is 00:08:21 And there also was a gate on the stairs. And it's like, do they not let the kids up the stairs? No. Why? Dude, no kids upstairs. Walbert brings that kid downstairs. And it's like, what did I say about no kids in my room? And I thought it was this.
Starting point is 00:08:37 brother, but it's not clearly... I did. I immediately assumed it was his son. They lay a lot of track in the beginning of the movie. Like, there is something, like, there's something that Mark Wahlberg does that I feel like is unparalleled by
Starting point is 00:08:52 any other actor, which is like, he can play like a lovable doofus in a, like, a wonderful way. Like, I buy this guy at church. Like, I'm like, yeah, he's like going a church. Like, he seems like genuinely into this band. Like, this is a scene. I'll show you see the scene, the breakup scene. Because you feel for him.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Like, he's... Here. Oh, yeah. Okay. Tired of just being a cover band. We are not a cover band. We're a tribute band. No, dude.
Starting point is 00:09:17 We are a cover band. The problem is, we've been covering the tunes. You think you're in goddamn Steel Dragon. I love you, man, but you're mental. You really are. You need to get a grip on reality, man. You don't know where Bobby Beers ends, and you begin. I'm mental.
Starting point is 00:09:33 I'm only mental because I don't want to be in some cheesy bar band that Butches and music people came to hear. just a trap meant to listen to your crappy original. Crapy original? Yeah. I think hole and a half kicks ass. I'm proud of shit to have written it. Come on, guys.
Starting point is 00:09:48 We started this band because we loved playing Dragon Tunes. We couldn't imagine playing anything else. What happened? Dude, I thought it'd be a goof. A goof? Chris, seriously, wouldn't you rather fail as yourself than succeed as some Bobby Pierce clone? Well, yeah, well, Rob, maybe you can write me a song about
Starting point is 00:10:04 why in the hell I would ever want to do that? All right, you're gone, man. Just go. I mean, that's amazing. Do you think, real question, do you think there was somebody from HBO who watched this movie and was like, wait a minute, okay, I want that guy as McNulty,
Starting point is 00:10:29 and I want that guy, and I want that guy as Deadwood. Put these guys in two huge roles on our network. Wait, I want to talk about that scene specifically, about the beginning of that scene, because this is like a thing I see in a lot of movies where the singer finds out he's replaced by going into the practice and finding out there's a singer that looks just like him.
Starting point is 00:10:51 It's like they waited for him to be right outside. They're like, okay, start playing now. You know what I mean? And so he can come in and find out that way. He's on his way, guys. Yeah. Well, he, like, so he, you know, he's upset, obviously, because he doesn't want to play original.
Starting point is 00:11:07 that is the worst thing as a musician that you can possibly do to have any dreams outside of that. And this movie, and I looked because I was concerned about what genre is it. It is drama. And then that...
Starting point is 00:11:23 I haven't updated. It is not. But then like the next moment of that scene and I'm taking my mic stand back. And I'm taking this other thing. It's the scene from the jerk. Well, as a matter of fact, Um, uh, Averill, uh, who cuts all of our clips, mash it up with Wayne's World, and it's the exact same thing from Wainter.
Starting point is 00:11:43 I think I'm coming back, I don't. Yeah, well, that's because I'm not. Fine, then go. I'm gone. Go there. I am. I leave now. I'm never coming back. Okay. I'm serious. If I leave now, I'm not coming back. Go. I'm gone. Go there. I am.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Never. I heard you the first time, boy. Well, well, well, so. There's so much stuff to talk about before he gets into the group. Church group? Yeah. Also, how old are he and Aniston meant to be in this world? They seem too old to live, to be this naive, I guess.
Starting point is 00:12:31 He, when they were shooting the movie, almost 30 for both of them. Oh, okay. But I feel like they were playing young 20s because at one point, Aniston says, like, you wrote me a song when you were 15 years old, which means that they've either dated for like 15 years or they're like, I feel like you should be younger. I feel like he should be younger. Is that how you feel, Paul?
Starting point is 00:13:05 You feel like he should be younger? I agree. I agree for the degree of how naive they both are throughout, it seems to me to be that they would be like 22 years old, like wide-eyed kind of like, holy cow. But that's a big part of her character though, right, that she's, like she has that scene later on, spoiler alert with Rachel Stewart in the limo
Starting point is 00:13:27 where there are girls that are 22. And I think her whole, like her whole character is based on the fact that she is older. Like I think she's meant to be, whether or not she looks at age or whatever, I think her character is meant to be like 30. But I would also say her character is problematic to me in the sense that, so her job is that she's a,
Starting point is 00:13:49 of the band manager of a tribute band. Like, that's, that's where she's like, and I'll stop. And she's got to manage them? And she is the manager of one of the two Pittsburgh-based steel dragon tribute bands. And it's a band that I believe they say we're the best in Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Yes. Not like we're the best on the East Coast. They wouldn't dare say that. States, yeah. They're all where, when that scene happens, when they are in the parking lot after the Real Still Dragon Show, and they're both fliring cars,
Starting point is 00:14:27 and they get into a fight where each guy partners up to fight the person he's identically dressed as, that shit was crazy. If I saw that in real life, I would watch it happen and then kill myself. Because life will never get,
Starting point is 00:14:48 better than that. Then watching 12 men fight each other. Yeah. Each of them lined up against their enemy. I don't have to fight. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Heartbreak. But yeah. So she also mentions though, well, I mean, we'll have to get into all of it. Their relationship, by the way, like, dissolves within a day. within one day of him getting this job. Like he's literally on a walk from the car
Starting point is 00:15:26 to like the recording studio and the 15-year relationship falls apart in that walk. But she does say that she's going to be building a business in Portland. Yeah, coffee shop? With a friend. She's in Seattle, I'm sorry. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:15:44 So sorry. We owe Portland and Seattle an apology right now. Should I leave? But what was that business? Was that the coffee shop? I think that where she's at the end She called that like a business. It was,
Starting point is 00:15:58 it was pitched as though it was like a new startup, like a real disruptor. But by the way, June, it might have been because this movie took place in the 80s. And obviously...
Starting point is 00:16:11 She started Starbucks. That's the T-shirt. Anison started Starbucks. But like, don't you think it was like, Because it gets like, spoiler alert, like Mark Wahlberg becomes like Eddie better. We don't have to spoiler alert. This fucking trash movie.
Starting point is 00:16:29 It's not necessary. You're welcome if it's spoiled. Mark Wahlberg becomes Eddie better. So, you know, like. I feel like he was just like, he, because he's a, Mark Wahlberg's a rapper. And he clearly is just doing movies where he's like, I'm not a rapper. Because in this, he goes from like metal god to like Kurt Cobain who sucks. Like he's doing anything except rapping.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Like the guy hates rap so much. He does not like to, he leaves that part of his life. Yeah. And he just, and he still sucks. There's a, there's a moment in the, in the, the, the credit sequence where they, in the playback of the movie, because, you know, they have to, like, do playback where you mime to the music and they played a Marky Mark track. And you can see his face like, his face falls.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Go fuck yourself. And then they put it in the movie. So it's really aggressive. It's like, remember that bit that you didn't like on set that we did? It's in the movie now. The other weird thing about that scene when he's like the Kurt Cobain dude or the Eddie Vedder dude is he walks off stage in the middle of the song. And I think he's like addicted to that.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Oh. He's so great. He doesn't finish songs. He's like, I'm going to go talk to M, Emily. And he walks off and they don't even solo. Nobody even like fills the bass with a solo. They just vamp. They just vamp with the same melody
Starting point is 00:17:53 they've been playing just without vocals now. If you were going, if you had paid money to see that concert, you would be like, fuck this. You'd be like, wait a minute, where's he going? Where's he going? Oh, okay. Oh, he's talking to that woman.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Okay. Do you think he's going to go back and sing the rest of the song? I don't know. He's still talking to that woman over there. Okay, what do you think? Well, is the guy playing a guitar solo? No.
Starting point is 00:18:19 He's just vamping. Okay. Is he going to, what are we doing? Should we leave? What's how? She's still talking to the woman who's wearing an enormous knit shawl. I was going to you a few times, Paul.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Like, do I, is this a real song? Like, is this a song that I've heard before? This is a real one. June said it to me the third time the same song was played. She goes, no, this is a real song. I like this song. And I said, well, no, you just heard it three days. It's just been played three years.
Starting point is 00:18:53 That's all it takes for you to like a song. I like it. I've heard this. Did you buy this soundtrack? Why do I feel like you bought this soundtrack after you watch the movie? This is good music. I recognize it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:06 I will say this. I will say this. When Talking Head started playing in this movie, I lost my mind. It's so literal. I was like, how on earth did they license this? But I was. would say why on earth would you license the talking heads
Starting point is 00:19:26 for a movie about metal to show the passage of time? They make a couple of weird music like I don't know maybe it's a language of something that I don't understand but it's like you're making a movie about people in the music industry that are making a specific type of music but
Starting point is 00:19:42 then like you use Bon Jovi talking heads so it's like oh I like that other stuff way better and that's not the music that you're even doing so it's a weird thing to pull you out with a more famous type of music that's not the music that you're even talking about. Oh yeah. Oh, no. Yeah. In fact, it's almost saying, it's almost reminding you, remember what good music sounds. Yes. In the beginning of the movie, I said to Paul, I guess I did
Starting point is 00:20:09 say a lot of things. I wasn't as silent as I thought I was. But I did say to Paul like, I can't believe I've got to listen to this music, the whole movie. Like, it was such a bummer for me to realize that this is. the music. It's not music. It's not what I call music. Oh, it's not. What do you call music, Jim? You released four albums called Now That's Not What I Call Music. And it's as you It's just track that you don't like. And it's you introing each song. Now this is
Starting point is 00:20:46 not what I would call music. I like to know, I like a chorus. I can hang my hat on. I like... What kind of hat is it? that you're hanging in, like a jaunty cap, an Amy Sherman Palladino nonsense hat? What kind of hat are we talking about? I will say, I will say,
Starting point is 00:21:10 Dominic West, McNulty, who I will only call McNaulty, McNaulty's house in this movie is, anybody? Chilton Academy and Gilmore Girls. That's a deep cut. Pretty great. By the way, I thought he was incredible
Starting point is 00:21:28 on this movie. It was great. You thought he was incredible in this movie? Did. There was a lightness to him that I haven't seen him do. I enjoyed him. I enjoyed him. And listen, here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Jen Ann and Mark Wahlberg are so goddamn watchable. 100%. They are so watchable. And they had a chemistry that could not be denied. Oh, absolutely. And I was there for it. Deep tongue kissing in this movie. I feel like they all led with the tongue.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Like the tongue came out of the mouth first before the lips hit every single time. Like that was the rule. Like a shark jumping out of the water to get a pelican before he goes down. In that sort of everyone is dancing scene, it was all tongue first. It was all just a bunch of tongues out.
Starting point is 00:22:26 It was, I didn't know that's how you kiss, but I've adopted it since. The best part of the morning after that dancing scene I see this in movies, the orgy, yeah, the massive orgy. Post-orgy. I see this in movies and I'm always curious about it and maybe I'm the one that's off but the scene opens with Jennifer Aniston
Starting point is 00:22:49 waking up and then realizing like she doesn't know where she is and then looking into her sheets but I've seen this before in other movies like looking into her sheets to see what she's wearing. As though she couldn't feel it. Like, that's what I'm curious about. Like, I would love it. I would love it if she looked down,
Starting point is 00:23:11 pulled the sheets down, and was just wearing a man's tuxedo. Like, oh no, what have I done? Not too bad. Not too bad. Tails, white tie. Don't mind. Like, that's...
Starting point is 00:23:29 Oh, Pat? That's what happens to you, like, when you have an orgy, then like a little orgy creature comes in and puts different outfits on you all. A leprechaun, cool, all right, what did I get? It's as though like these people are not in their own bodies to simply feel the clothing. It's also, it also presumes situational amnesia. Yes.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Like when you wake up, even after a night of hard partying and drinking and poor sexual decisions, you still kind of know what's up. Instead, it's kind of like where she goes. Everywhere. She is genuinely shocked. As if she has been unconscious for 10 hours. I also like that the way they got into that orgy was Mark Wahlberg had two drinks. And then he's like, Hollywood is crazy.
Starting point is 00:24:29 I'm going to fuck 3,000 people in one night. By the way, Jim Aniston in this photo is like, oh shit, did I fuck the guy wearing chain mail? Who did not take off the chain mail? Did I fuck the guy wearing shirt? Chain nail? Chain nail, not a comfortable thing to fall asleep in. Or I imagine have sex in. By the way, a very noisy shirt.
Starting point is 00:24:52 A slink. It's like, imagine a slinky back and forth. That's the noise of fucking the guy wearing chain mail. Come on. Why? Her makeup and hair still flawless. I was upset that when that orgy scene began, there were two beautiful women who came over to both of them.
Starting point is 00:25:13 And then they sort of turned, they both turned to Mark Wahlberg. And then like a grosso, like blonde-tipped fucking weird guy came over to Jennifer Aniston and started grinding on her. I was like, what the fuck? She gets this guy? They all kind of kept changing partners, though. Thank God. Switching. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Yeah. That blonde guy, and the blonde guy not established. Yeah, there's a lot of like neck. This is like this is not sexual It's just It's open mouth It's like how they kiss in Pittsburgh
Starting point is 00:25:58 I think Oh be careful Jake Pittsburgh is listening He like All The kissing is I felt like they were just Doing playback
Starting point is 00:26:12 Playback More neck. More rub his neck. Open your mouth wider if possible. Try to envelop him. Swallow him like... Eat her chin. Like a praying mantis.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Eat them alive. Swallow her face. Swallow his face. Rip his tongue out. This is sex, I think. A virgin directed this movie. The way. way that this movie, when he finally, when he gets called up to the big leagues to be the lead
Starting point is 00:26:55 singer of Steel Dragon, he has a pretty amazing intro into the band. He walks off the, like, walks down the platform and then the most amazing slow-mo sequence of a fall that you think, oh shit, the movie's over, this character's dead. Or it's going to take a regarding Henry-esque turn. Where we're going to They're like, oh. Shouts to J.J. Abrams. But it's like, he takes a fall, like two steps, falls about 12 feet on his head. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:27:33 He falls in a way that is... Irreparable. Yes. Irrepairable. You would... You know, I don't want to say the rest of the movies of Jacob's Ladder scenario, but like, never has there been a more obvious
Starting point is 00:27:46 Jacob's Ladder scenario than the visible death. that we watch. Like, this might as well be a snuff film for Mark Wahlberg's character. And then when he goes down, he immediately then pounced back up, doesn't miss a beat of the song,
Starting point is 00:28:03 sings it bloody. By the way, the song's lyric is, do you want blood? Or show me blood? Like, blood is in the lyric of the song, apparently. God, you got lucky. He got lucky. Classic.
Starting point is 00:28:20 But, yeah, that scene is so, so bizarre. Yeah, he is fully bleeding from the head. Then he grabs a hose, pretends it's a dick, and then, like, wets down a lot of the audience. This is what's so weird with the tone of the movie, though. Like, his parents follow him around. You know, they, I guess, move from Pittsburgh to, like, tour with him. They can fly out to see a show.
Starting point is 00:28:44 No, I know they can. Oh, boy. But I'm saying like it almost But then you also see them partying at one point Like it the tone of this movie They're allowed to party Advocating for like older parents Whose kids are out of the house
Starting point is 00:29:20 Remember when they insinuate That the dad loves eating pussy? Yes! That's like saying I thought That's the press conference We should just show the press conference This is like To me
Starting point is 00:29:41 This feels like an improv scene because it's a throwaway line that then they're like It's a short form game called press conference Well no but like like the throwaway line We'll see like here like so here Izzy
Starting point is 00:29:54 Is that your name? Izzy? You had a knife like Izzy's revenge I'm not only Issy pause Why does he affect a British accent for only that line?
Starting point is 00:30:08 Yeah You'll never hear that again Never again No and like when he's on stage He doesn't even try. He goes, I grew up in Pittsburgh and these guys in the wall. It's like, it's gone.
Starting point is 00:30:18 But is he, is he? Or is he not? Because his name is not Izzy. Wait, Izzy, Izzy or is he not? But doesn't he also at some point make Jennifer Anderson call him Izzy, refer to him as Izzy? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Because that's two movies where he insists on being called by another name. I feel like there was a lot of Boogie Knights in this movie, but it's like five times worse. This is like the trial run for Boogie Knights. Yeah. Yeah, he was like, let me do this. Also, this guy's hair is a real problem.
Starting point is 00:30:46 So I think we're coming up to the thing here. So here you go. Keep your voice and set great shape. Oh, Ms. Reed, my choir teacher, she always did this really cool exercise. She's a little pussy, that sound. Oh, yeah, all you go. What channel is that?
Starting point is 00:31:02 Like father, like son. Like, how were they watching a press conference? She said, like father, like son. And then you go, okay, that's weird. And then they continue it. The next scene, Jennifer Annes is like, I'm going to make you an honest man. Like, so you're not going to lie about eating a lot of pussy
Starting point is 00:31:20 because you'll eat my pussy. And then the next scene, he's in the mirror going like, I eat little pussy. I love pussy. I eat a little pussy. And then Jenner is like, hey, stop talking about it. Come on in here and do it. It's like, wow, they really went to town on that drug.
Starting point is 00:31:38 That's his, like, are you talking to me moment? that's his taxi driver scene is like practicing I eat a lot of pussy I eat a lot of pussy but he would never need to practice that line because he never uses the accent there you go
Starting point is 00:31:55 sorry his parents by the way isn't it nice that his parents support him I really I like that his parents were supportive I feel like this guy doesn't overcome anything I feel like his parents are supportive
Starting point is 00:32:09 he wears makeup No way, he never gets made fun of. Like, it's like, he's not a hero. He's just, like, a really privileged person. He wears makeup in Pittsburgh, and people are fine with it. And when he wears makeup, like, the, again, it feels like an almost scene. Like, he's repairing the toner on a copier. And he goes, is that makeup?
Starting point is 00:32:30 And he goes, yeah, I'm in a band. He goes, end of the scene. No, no take on that, no anything. It's like, oh, misunderstanding. Most movies. Genuine misunderstanding. They also pull up to a truck and in tons of makeup and long hair
Starting point is 00:32:50 and they sing to these like steel workers and the guys are like, this is totally normal. This is the town we live in and I'm fine with it. And I don't hate you. I live in America that has never existed. I also feel, can we talk about the hair?
Starting point is 00:33:07 Because I feel like it's the most hair that's been in any movie. Oh, it's aggressive hair. It's almost as if like there's a competition. and like, that's their wig? I want mine to look like an Elizabethan wig. It was like, it was like, it was like, everybody got to choose who they wanted to be. I feel like McNaughty was like, I want Brian May hair from Queen.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Give me giant crazy hair. Here's my, okay, the other question I have about her career, though. So if she starts off as a, is his manager, was, why couldn't she continue to manage him? Like, wouldn't that be a huge career move for her to manage this huge rock star? Well, I feel like they already have those positions filled. But I was confused, too, like, once she's slotted into, like, they kind of put, Tim Spall is the band's manager. And he's like, well, the wives, they ride in that limo over there, no wives on the thing,
Starting point is 00:34:09 whatever, whatever. Like, she doesn't get a storyline that is like, well, I'm his manager like, you're the band. manager. Like, there is no, like, for her moment of, like, well, no, this is my job, you know. She is just relegated to that wife position. That part was so weird because that was the, how did I get here? Montage. And it insinuated that years were passing, or like that a long time was passing. So she rode in that shitty little car with all those blonde women for years.
Starting point is 00:34:36 And by the way, if you told me this movie, they're years. And it seeminglyly got the cover of the same magazine like seven times. If you told me this movie took place over the course of seven years, I would believe you. An interesting thing about the limo scene was that they kept on alluding to all this fun she could have if she wanted to. What did that mean? Like, she could fuck around too. Is that all it meant like you can fuck other guys? Well, here we go.
Starting point is 00:35:05 And I have some interesting facts about this. It comes with the territory. And I mean, you can either drive yourself bad, you trying to change it, or you can simply. adapt. You gotta let him off release for a bit of a romp every once in a while. Otherwise, they get a little cranky,
Starting point is 00:35:19 you know. Besides, at the end of the day, they always come home. And who's to say that you can't have your own fun? Exactly. Here's some advice for me. Number one, learn to share.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Oh. Number two, get very close with his accountant. And number three, don't sign anything, even if it's not typed. I had to learn that the heart. Now, what makes a scene interesting is that all three of these women are actual wives of rock stars.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Rachel Hunter was married to Rod Stewart and was in a relationship with Kip Winger, who was in Alice Cooper's band. Heidi Mark was married to Vince Neal. And Carrie Stevens was the girlfriend of the kiss drummer Eric Carr. So they all are playing versions of themselves. Which makes it a little bit. This movie did not need to get meta. You know what I mean? Like, it's a little bit of a waste.
Starting point is 00:36:18 But I would love to follow that Rachel Hunter character. Rachel Hunter. Yeah, I guess just Rachel Hunter. Just follow her on Twitter. Oh, like, is it that easy? I think so. All right. It is, wow.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Wow, wow, wow. Interesting thing about this movie was Brad Pitt was supposed to be. play the lead and he dropped out due to creative differences. I like to think of Mark, the character he plays in this movie as the guy Rachel dated after Ross but before Brad. Let's go to the crowd. Let's see what they have to say about this movie. All right, let me come down to you.
Starting point is 00:37:09 And tonight, if you ask a good question, or pretty much any question, you'll get a gift from our good friends at IMAX who one day I showed up to work and I have like boxes of IMAX shit and so thank you IMAX Okay, yes, right over here and ask the question in your best British accent, okay?
Starting point is 00:37:29 And we've seen what's happened in the movie so just try it. It doesn't have to work 100%. So, okay, your name? It's Candy. Okay, Kennedy, ask your question, British accent, go. Can we talk about how after the British accent pussy conversation and he asked him to himself in the mirror.
Starting point is 00:37:44 The song is lick it up by Kiss. Amazing. That was great. You're awesome. Yes. All the music cues are so obvious. All the music cues are so on the nose. There is no subtlety at all.
Starting point is 00:38:02 Sir, your name? Greg. Greg, your question in the British accent. Go. First of all, I have a little something. Okay, great, in the British accent. Okay. I got a little something for you, Paul and Jason.
Starting point is 00:38:12 I have the movie that shall not be named, a Jacob's Ladder. Oh, an actual Jacob's Ladder toy. Oh, thank you so much. Thank you so much. So I have a question. At the end, when he leaves the band and just walks off stage, where'd the money go? He seems to be hitchhiking home.
Starting point is 00:38:35 Yeah, they didn't pay for a return flight. Hitchhiking home with a guitar he has never played and will never play. He's not a guitarist. By the way, I just want to point out that this gentleman is wearing a Steel Dragon shirt. Wait. Where did you... Amazing.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Is that homemade or is that... Where did you find that? Wait, don't applaud this. Why? Is that homemade or did you find that? Online. Wow. All right.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Your still dragon shirts. Are your name and your question in a British accent? I'm Eloise. Can I please not do it? Try. Just try it. Just try it. Just try it.
Starting point is 00:39:15 You got this, Eloise. So, I'm not, but okay. So Jennifer Anderson drinks a drink before the orgy scene and then is like stumbling around and like the creepy manager dude is like gravity doesn't exist here. And was she drug? Was she roofied? I thought the same thing.
Starting point is 00:39:34 I thought they did. I thought she'd be like a closer. I thought she'd as well. Let me go over here. That was a good question. Here we got. All right. What we got?
Starting point is 00:39:42 All right. Yes. Are your name? Guys, don't not raise your hands because you don't want to. to do a British accent. Raise your hand. Be brave, audience. Be brave. All right, my name's Brittany. My question is. I don't know what this accent is, but
Starting point is 00:39:56 they have the orgy, right? Mark Wildberg wakes up the next day. He walks in. The girl is peeing, standing up. It's the very, here you go, here's your glasses, there you go. All right, so, obviously. It was just like what happened there. Oh, she had a dig.
Starting point is 00:40:19 All right. Wait, hang on. Were you confused on that? It's pretty homophobic, transphobic, every which way. But also like the band kicks out the singer for being gay, but then is very progressive on trans issues, which was so confusing.
Starting point is 00:40:44 I couldn't figure out if they were kicking him out because he was gay or if he was using that against them. I couldn't figure that whole conversation out. And then he's like Irish dancing at the end as if that's a gay thing. That was also strange. Michael Flaherty is a virulent heterosexual man. I just thought. Like Michael Flatly?
Starting point is 00:41:02 Really? Yeah, he's super, super straight. Trust me. Yes, sir, your name and your question in British. Damon. And on that same point, why is this world where only gay people don't have big hair? And that's not his big secret is I'm gay. Therefore, this was always a weird.
Starting point is 00:41:21 Even though I have a perfectly healthy full head of hair, I couldn't grow it out because I'm really gay. That's a good point. Great point. I'm going to get you an IMAX. Good point. Good point. All right. One more question. One more question. If you're British,
Starting point is 00:41:37 you definitely get to ask a question. You're British in the back? No. You British? All right, come forward. All right. You can come forward. All right. Oh, sorry. All right. Let's just, let's see. A real Brit. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Hi, how are you? All right. I get your name and your question. Kylie, and my question is... Kylie, I know you. You're not British. Yeah, I don't believe it. I don't believe it.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Kylie, no. Not a real Brit, Paul. Not a real Brit. The mic, though. Very crappy with the mic, Kylie. I know you. Kylie, she's not British, right? She's not British.
Starting point is 00:42:12 She's a lovely individual. I do want to, like, have a couple more people stand up to figure out if they're really British. Oh, yeah. Okay, here's the challenge. Who can trick us into thinking they're actually British? Say one line. Kylie, you blew it.
Starting point is 00:42:31 Also, I know you. Kylie's already not British. All right, so it's like, all right, ma'am, one line. One line. Hello, I have one absolute small question. No. It was pretty good. It was pretty good.
Starting point is 00:42:45 I need one more line. I need one more line. Do you have a specific line you want me to say or just? You're not British. You're not British. Oh. Yeah, yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:42:55 These guys are dressed like steel panther, by the way. Amazing. All dressed as Steel Panther. Steel dragon. Steel dragon. Do you think that when Timothy... No, I don't think... I don't think...
Starting point is 00:43:13 This British chest feels racist. And I love it. I hold it. I'll do my... Cheer up, Chuckie. Never rep in. Yes. Totally British. Totally British. That was real. That was crazy real. You did it.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Ladies and gentlemen, Prince Harry. So this character that Mark is playing, at one point he gets upset at the time on the road, whether it's a week, seven years, a month. We don't know how long it's been. And then he replaces himself on stage effortlessly. He's like, you can do this? Great, get up here. Later. That's the weirdest way.
Starting point is 00:43:59 Like, it's so easy to be in that band. You just have to go to the front of the stage and just scream. And then they're like, yeah, that's fine. Like, it's not hard to be in the band at all. And the fact that the audience is like kind of okay with it. They're like, yeah, works. Works for us. They're on so much heroin.
Starting point is 00:44:17 They don't care. Well, it really is the idea of like, oh, the interchangeability of these lead singers is like, oh, I guess anybody can do this? But that's not a thing. That's literally not a thing that happens. And also, that guy's never played these songs live before with this band. It's also like, I feel like at that moment, it's supposed to be like this really cool thing that Mark Wahlberg is doing for the guy. But it's like the guy who introduces you to smoking when you're eight. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:44:44 Like, it's like this is good. You just ruin this motherfucker's life. Like this guy is going to kill himself It's like a deal with the devil. It's like, you can replace me because I'm miserable. I'm like, yeah. Jake, who introduced you to smoking at eight? That is a British person.
Starting point is 00:45:01 No, come on. Are those people in those world? Oh, no. This interview with Jennifer Anniston made me laugh because you'll see what is happening. She was dating Brad Pitt at the time. That's why the interviewer asked her about Brad Pitt. So here you go.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Did Brad give you? any advice to play this to play this role um well you know there's all sorts of i can't say he sat down and gave me advice but he definitely um talked me through just sort of her sensibilities you know and which we kind of i figured out sort of anyway which was just not knowing because there wasn't much of a part there so i didn't know how to elevate it you know i didn't know what its purpose was, except that once I figured out that she was sort of, you know, I mean, once we developed the character, because there was really nothing at first. And then she sort of became the audience's perspective.
Starting point is 00:45:58 Which I just think is fun that she was like... It wasn't much of a part there. She's not wrong. She's great, though. She is. I would watch this movie. Like, that's what this movie is. Like, when we picked it, I was like, I've seen this on TBS.
Starting point is 00:46:12 This is fine. And when you just have to sit and watch the whole thing. thing. I would argue she is the most interesting character in this movie. Yeah, 100%. This movie, if it was from her perspective, more than anybody else's. Well, she's the only one?
Starting point is 00:46:30 Hang on. I didn't need one single person to applaud through that. The only thing that I, the only thing, that was me. No, no, no. Don't, that wasn't what I was doing.
Starting point is 00:46:51 What's wrong with you, people? More of you. You need to leave. She's obviously, she's the smartest, most developed character. Ultimately, she has a plan, she has a job, she's getting forward, and she's like, you know what, I don't like this lifestyle, I'm going to open up my coffee shop and start a fucking trend in America with independent coffee shops. And if that falls apart, I'll just pierce people's nipples.
Starting point is 00:47:20 That nipple piercing scene was not fun for me. No, I couldn't watch that. It was too many close-ups of- Was that needle sterilized? No, he definitely got an infection in more ways than one in this movie. I for real feel like the line should have been like
Starting point is 00:47:36 when he's playing in the... Well, I won't even play the whole thing because it's really visual but I will just say that this is the... Oh yeah, there's a lot of tongue, but this is what I don't want to see. Close upon needle, in the liquor, and then here we go, hold on one second. We don't have to get that close.
Starting point is 00:48:05 We don't need it. And you know, you know, that's not Mark Wahlberg. So you know they're like, does anybody want to get their nipple pierced today? And some grip was like, I'll do it. So then they do it. They get the nipple. They, you know, they cut away from this. Sorry, June.
Starting point is 00:48:24 All right, cut away. And then as soon as you think, oh, it's over, thank God. Boom, right back. Which is, by the way, like a paperclip. Like a twisted up paperclip is what she puts in. It looks so hot. Oh, yes, painful. I agree with Paul painful.
Starting point is 00:48:46 I don't mean hot. Obviously, we had an opinion about this movie, but there are people out there with a different opinion. It's now time for second opinions. You know, I'm just a normal guy. I grew up with post. of these guys on my wall. Now I'm one of them.
Starting point is 00:49:10 Up and shout. Up and shout. But you're thinking. Change your taste and move. Read my... You see. Opinions. What's your name?
Starting point is 00:50:34 Here we go. Here's a book by our friend Scott C. And you can have that and have a seat. Thank you so much. To take that raw vocal track and put music to it. That was pretty fucking impressive. And that guy was nervous to come up.
Starting point is 00:51:01 I think I got something. Meanwhile, he had a fucking whole act worked out flawlessly. And by the way, Ryan, like, sat like a fucking gentleman, waited until nobody raised their hand, then it was like, fine, I'll fucking do it. You four dudes dressed like Steel Dragon. Dress up, but not prepare a song. You blew it, dummies.
Starting point is 00:51:30 Well, here we go. 502 reviews for this film. 50% 5 stars 50% are 5 stars? Yes. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:51:49 So this one is called my all-time favorite rock and roll movie by Rick Brunson. Having spent a number of years on the road with an American hard rock band Reed, White Snake, Deaf Leopard, Van Halen,
Starting point is 00:52:04 I was blown away by the authenticity of rock star. In particular, the character were believable and authentic reed, egocentric, self-absorbed with a dash of charisma. The film is an accurate depiction of how it really is
Starting point is 00:52:20 headlining and living the life. For those of you who lived or want to experience the edgy, in your face, hardcore era, this is it. Five stars. And by the way, a majority of these reviews,
Starting point is 00:52:40 express a very similar sentiment. So all of them are written from people who are in bands? A lot are. Like I'm being, I'm not, that's not yet, a lot are. This one's written by G. Madison. What can I say? Excellent movie. Mark Wahlberg, excellent. FYI, when I submitted my first review, it was based on the TV version.
Starting point is 00:53:01 Now that I've seen the uncut DVD version, I want to say I don't care for the raunchy, vulgar, sexually related terms like the P, the D, and the F word. I know that doesn't bother many others and I know those terms are used in many R-rated movies and they should be expected in a movie about a rock band but I just want to make it clear that I don't care for that. Aside from that, though, an excellent movie. Five stars.
Starting point is 00:53:29 What else was there besides that in the movie? The version he watched was 45 minutes long. This is from AI Baruti. As one who fully accepts that you are what you desire and act upon, this movie hits the spot. Not only is it about more than music, as alluded to, it is about life itself. Life in the sense that we all have a secret,
Starting point is 00:54:00 and sometimes not so secret, dream that we all hold within. More often than not, such a dream goes unrealized. Perhaps this will be lost on some, then again, maybe not. But live your life and you will feel me. Defer not your dreams,
Starting point is 00:54:21 for they are the very thing that can and will and do guide the ship that you call your life. I would bet I would bet my life that Walberg wrote that review himself. This one
Starting point is 00:54:38 this one right here. This is a one-liner. This is from Randy Given. I've seen many movies of this genre. Although movies like Almost Famous have won more awards, this movie is my favorite. It's more honest. Five stars. Almost famous, written by someone who actually was on the road with...
Starting point is 00:54:58 No big deal. Okay. Dee Rauch writes this. Yep, that's right. With Rockstar, a film where he went to take a piss is the ultimate catchphrase. Not all the cliches in the world can stop it from being a really deep drama.
Starting point is 00:55:19 Half of you probably think I'm on crack. Oh well, I'm not, by the way. With the vehicle for this right of passage theme story being heavily dipped in 80s excess, many people trash this movie despite it's somewhat tongue-in-cheek satirical treatment. But you know what? You're missing the point of the film. What is life about?
Starting point is 00:55:47 Yes, folks. That is the question. And a little movie called Rockstar left me pondering that as I exited the theater. And more recently, when I turned off the DVD player, five stars.
Starting point is 00:56:03 And then this one should be read in a cockney, British accent. Well, anyone want to take a shot at that? You made everybody else do it. All right, I'll say like this. Bloody hell, mate, this flick is tops, man. Long live steel dragon and... Staddle!
Starting point is 00:56:18 And show! A must for any music lover. Five stars. There we go. Those are our five-star reviews. By the way, that was a great... That was a great rendition to stand up and show. Yeah, really solid, right?
Starting point is 00:56:34 There was love it if that became your karaoke songs. Stand up! No, I lost it. There was one more piece of trivia I just wanted to say. When I googled this movie, I went to the Wikipedia page, and the movie came out September 7, 2001. which was four days before 9-11, which Mark Wahlberg said he could have stopped.
Starting point is 00:56:56 But he couldn't save his own movie, so I doubt it. And I think it's a beautiful part about this movie's history. Go to Wikipedia, it's real. Just a couple of quick facts about the movie. The tagline is the story of a wannabe who got to be. And also, it was made for 50. 57 million. And, yes.
Starting point is 00:57:23 And it made 17. I do believe that the 9-11 probably affected that. 57 million dollars? 57 million dollars. American? This is made in, yeah, American dollars. And here, if you were following with us, this movie, the top three movies of the year,
Starting point is 00:57:46 were Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone, Lord of the Rings, and Shrek. and this movie came out 108th in all the movies that came out there and it was beaten by a movie that we did called Crocodile Dundee in Los Angeles but however
Starting point is 00:58:01 it beat on the line a movie that we did with the in sync kids and glitter so it didn't fall to the bottom of the track there was that hubcap and turkey sandwich yeah that was on the line turkey sub so there we go any other
Starting point is 00:58:18 final thoughts on rock star. I didn't care for it. Yeah, that's a good question. Would you recommend this movie? I would not. I would not. It didn't cross over into being so fun to me that it would be necessary really to watch. You could watch it like, you could get a taste of it. But I don't think you need to watch the whole movie. I feel like when I watch a trailer, I was like, oh yeah, I got that movie. Pretty much. You know, it's kind of... I don't think it's necessary to watch.
Starting point is 00:58:44 How about they got the soundtrack from? What's that? Soundtrack, June? I would argue it's most interesting. before he gets into Steel Dragon. Like the battle of the Steel Dragon tribute bands is more interesting to me than anything else. I hear that.
Starting point is 00:59:03 Jake, what do you think? This is just one random thing. Why did it have bookends of documentary footage? That was another weird thing. It's like this isn't a documentary and it's not cool. Stop. Yeah. It felt like that was a half idea
Starting point is 00:59:15 that they were like, oh, but yeah, let's forget that. It really is, yeah, there's, no other... What are we talking about here? Yeah, I don't know. I love the movie and I think everyone should watch it. So Jake, you have a... Hot Jake, Jake, Jake, so your show, which you created,
Starting point is 00:59:35 corporate is on Comedy Central. It's really funny. How would you describe it? I mean, it's, it's like, I feel like the most realistic version of an, like, of, like, corporate, like, cubicle America kind of a show. Yeah, it's kind of like office space meets
Starting point is 00:59:51 American Psycho. And basically, it's like how, you know how most offices, you know how like even you're at this job right now and it's a really great job, but you still want to die? That's kind of what everyone feels at every job. That's what the show's about. And it's got a great cast. It's on Wednesday nights, but you can watch it on the Comic Central app. At cc.com at any time, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:14 Perfect. Gene, what would you like to plug? I will plug, Grace and Frankie, because the fourth season is streaming right. now. So you can watch that. Jason. Oh, I got nothing. Although I will say, I will say, and we've plugged this before, but I will say,
Starting point is 01:00:34 Paul and I did another episode of the Chris Getherd show. Oh, yeah. It's on True TV. I don't know how to watch it at this point, but in the first two minutes of the show, Chris Getherd abandons his own talk show and leaves Paul and I holding the hat for an hour-long live television. scripted, nothing to do. We had no we had no one told us anything. We didn't know what was going to happen. We didn't
Starting point is 01:01:00 know he was leaving. Yeah. And we fucking crushed it. We killed it. We brought a tortoise out there. We brought the entire audience on the street. It's good. And I would say it's worth the money to just buy it on iTunes or something. If it exists on iTunes, I would say, buy it. Yeah, it's called The Chris Getherd Show. Thank you so much for coming out tonight. A big thank you to everyone who helps make this show possible. Averallie who puts together. all those amazing clips.
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Starting point is 01:01:36 See you again. Bye-bye. That's the show, but it doesn't end here. Listen to our mini episode where the discussion about this movie continues. Also, if you like how to this get made and you want to wear it or put it as a sticker or have it as a cell phone case,
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