How Did This Get Made? - Rock Star LIVE! w/ Jake Weisman (Classic)
Episode Date: May 5, 2026Mark Wahlberg and his wig play the lead singer of a heavy metal tribute band who ends up joining the real band in 2001's Rock Star. Comedian Jake Weisman (This Fool, Corporate) joins Paul, June, and J...ason at Largo in L.A. to discuss the massive orgy scene, if Jennifer Aniston's character founded Starbucks, nipple piercings, and if this movie became a Jacob's Ladder Scenario after Izzy falls off stage. Plus, the audience tries to convince us they're British during the Q&A. (Ep. #182 Originally Released 02/16/2018) • Go to hdtgm.com for tour dates, merch, FAQs, and more• Have a Last Looks correction or omission? Leave us a voicemail at speakpipe.com/hdtgm• Submit your Last Looks theme song to us here• Join the HDTGM conversation on Discord: discord.gg/hdtgm• Buy merch at howdidthisgetmade.dashery.com/• Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of Trauma• Shop our new hat collection at podswag.com• Paul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheer• Paul’s YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheer• Follow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer• Subscribe to Enter The Dark Web w/ Paul & Rob Huebel: youtube.com/@enterthedarkweb• Listen to Unspooled with Paul & Amy Nicholson: unspooledpodcast.com• Listen to The Deep Dive with June & Jessica St. Clair: thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcast• Instagram: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & @junediane• Twitter: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & msjunediane • Jason is not on social media• Episode transcripts available at how-did-this-get-made.simplecast.com/episodesGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Sex, drugs, and lots and lots of wigs.
We saw rock stars, so you know what that means.
How did Schwarzenegger Grove baby in his belly rock a Ron Stone vest while ripping just into Kelly
or maybe see a burlash show with Nick Crow and take a boat with speed to hitting cruise control.
J-man, Big Paul in the beautiful June, gonna take you from the goon all the way to the room.
Ran the Games and Street Fighter help to blow off steam.
Just a sucker punch the odd life of Timothy Green.
Shark needle, the bird demic, how we stand a lot.
They call it in the badass, and he's on the line.
Cranking 88 minutes because they cool as ice.
Because a bad Jim, Barney, looking kind and nice.
Paul and June getting literal.
Jason is getting laid.
June is making sure all the monkey shots getting paid.
They're just a bunch of movies while they're making the grade.
Here's a real question for you.
How did this get made?
How are excited to talk to you about tonight's movie,
the 2001 classic rock star.
Yes, this movie is almost 20 years old, and that bums me out.
Here to talk about that movie is my co-host.
Please welcome.
Jason Manzoukis.
Welcome.
Welcome, Jason.
How are you, Paul?
I'm doing good.
Are you?
This, I've seen this movie twice.
I have a question.
Is it a movie, though?
I watch this movie and I was like,
this whole movie seems like a trailer
for a movie that I don't care to watch.
I'd argue a bigger question.
If it is a trailer, what genre is it?
Also, I have a second question.
Does Jennifer Aniston age?
No.
You said just said this movie came in 2001.
She is identical.
If you told me it came out last week,
yeah, sure.
And Mark Walker.
Mark Wahlberg too.
These are ageless people.
Are these people eternals?
Are they the immortals?
Are they Highlanders?
What is a Highlander?
We will figure it out.
You know, speaking of which,
making her triumphant return to the podcast,
please welcome out.
Take it in, June.
Hi, Paul.
How are you?
Welcome home, June. Welcome home.
It's good to be here.
So the reason why I watched this movie twice is
because I watched it and then I watched it again with you.
I've never had the experience before where I've watched a movie.
I usually say things to Paul and comment and we talk a little bit.
I watched this in silence.
It's true.
I was checking and making sure that you were awake at certain points.
Yeah, but I was.
Because you liked it so much?
I didn't know what the fuck was going on.
You asked me some concerning questions.
The one question I asked, a number of times was, is this a comedy?
You, I will say, and I don't want to spoil it.
for the audience, but you did say, I would say,
a good 20 minutes in, you go, so wait a second.
He sings in a cover band?
That was,
I was, and I was, like, yeah.
I hope your answer was, no, babe, a tribute band.
My first note is, oof, this is bad.
That does not bode well.
Well, joining us tonight is a very special guest.
This guy is a part of this hilarious new show
on Comedy Central. It's called Corporate. It airs every Wednesday at Templeam.
Please welcome Jake Weissman.
Welcome, Jake.
Thank you for having me.
And we were talking backstage. You have seen, like you saw this movie before it was assigned to you as part of this podcast.
Yeah, I actually have watched it twice, but the first time I didn't realize it was just two hours of watching the guitar hero title sequence.
But yeah, I've seen it a bunch.
I mean, I love it.
It's the worst movie I've ever seen,
but it's hard not to love.
It is an odd movie because it's very pure in what it's saying.
I mean, so Mark Wahlberg in this film,
he is the lead of a tribute band,
and just to give you like a brief outline of the plot,
and is then quickly brought into the actual band
that he tributes as the lead singer.
Wait, can I ask a quick question?
Is he in Pittsburgh as the lead singer of the...
I thought this whole movie took place in California and they never left.
But, okay, it doesn't matter.
Keep going.
Yeah, no, I think he is in Pittsburgh.
And he is in Pittsburgh and they get on a plane and go to California.
But then they end up in Seattle, right?
Ew.
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
Sorry, go ahead.
Yeah, I don't know.
Well, anyway, basically, that's all you need to know.
And it's loosely based on the, I guess, this guy, Ripper Owens,
who was pulled in to be the lead singer of Judas Priest.
But it's not his story.
It's just like a guy or gal heard that story.
He was like, that's a movie.
And then, and didn't do any more research after that.
Just like, just basically heard, did you hear that there was a dude who got put in Jesus priest?
Yeah, make out a movie.
Great.
Do no more research.
And then the movie goes.
It's a weird movie because your hero is essentially fighting for being unoriginal.
Like that's the word.
where we like, what we are...
Which his brother says to him at one point.
His brother basically is like,
you don't even want to...
It's in the trailer there.
You don't even want to do your own thing.
You just want to sing someone else's songs.
Yes.
Yes.
I agree with the brother?
His bandmates who at points
want to riff and like go off
and create their own songs.
Write their own songs. And it is a strange
position we as an audience are in
which is to root for the creative force
that simply
wants to mimic what has already been done.
Well, pay tribute to.
And his reward is you get to pay
tribute to this band by now
being in this band. It's weird
because it's kind of like, it's such a lame thing
to base a movie on. It's like telling
someone they'll never be a substitute teacher.
It's like, you won't do it. I mean, you could.
But you won't.
And again, I feel like there's a lot of things that play in the
film where
basically like you
see this guy's life and it's a
sad life. He
clearly lives at home with
his parents past the time that is
appropriate. They're making
him wear this wig.
By the way though
and listen the first
20 minutes this was a
loose watching for me. There were other things
going on so I say this with
a grain of salt but all of the small
children in that house
Were those as brothers and sisters?
I thought this for a while too.
Okay.
But then at one point,
at one point the mother answers the phone
and says something like sunshine child care
or something like that.
And I was like, oh.
And there also was a gate on the stairs.
And it's like, do they not let the kids up the stairs?
No.
Why?
Dude, no kids upstairs.
Walbert brings that kid downstairs.
And it's like, what did I say about no kids in my room?
And I thought it was this.
brother, but it's not clearly...
I did.
I immediately assumed it was his son.
They lay a lot of track
in the beginning of the movie.
Like, there is something, like,
there's something that Mark Wahlberg does
that I feel like is unparalleled by
any other actor, which is like, he can play like
a lovable doofus in a, like, a
wonderful way. Like, I buy this guy at church.
Like, I'm like, yeah, he's like going
a church. Like, he seems like genuinely
into this band. Like, this is a scene. I'll show you
see the scene, the breakup scene.
Because you feel for him.
Like, he's...
Here.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Tired of just being a cover band.
We are not a cover band.
We're a tribute band.
No, dude.
We are a cover band.
The problem is, we've been covering the tunes.
You think you're in goddamn Steel Dragon.
I love you, man, but you're mental.
You really are.
You need to get a grip on reality, man.
You don't know where Bobby Beers ends, and you begin.
I'm mental.
I'm only mental because I don't want to be in some cheesy bar band
that Butches and music people came to hear.
just a trap meant to listen to your crappy original.
Crapy original?
Yeah.
I think hole and a half kicks ass.
I'm proud of shit to have written it.
Come on, guys.
We started this band because we loved playing Dragon Tunes.
We couldn't imagine playing anything else.
What happened?
Dude, I thought it'd be a goof.
A goof?
Chris, seriously, wouldn't you rather fail as yourself
than succeed as some Bobby Pierce clone?
Well, yeah, well, Rob, maybe you can write me a song about
why in the hell I would ever want to do that?
All right, you're gone, man.
Just go.
I mean, that's amazing.
Do you think, real question,
do you think there was somebody from HBO
who watched this movie and was like, wait a minute,
okay, I want that guy as McNulty,
and I want that guy, and I want that guy as Deadwood.
Put these guys in two huge roles on our network.
Wait, I want to talk about that scene specifically,
about the beginning of that scene,
because this is like a thing I see in a lot of movies
where the singer finds out he's replaced
by going into the practice
and finding out there's a singer that looks just like him.
It's like they waited for him to be right outside.
They're like, okay, start playing now.
You know what I mean?
And so he can come in and find out that way.
He's on his way, guys.
Yeah.
Well, he, like, so he, you know, he's upset, obviously,
because he doesn't want to play original.
that is the worst thing as a musician
that you can possibly do
to have any dreams outside of that.
And this movie, and I looked
because I was concerned about
what genre is it.
It is drama.
And then that...
I haven't updated. It is not.
But then like the next moment of that scene
and I'm taking my mic stand back.
And I'm taking this other thing.
It's the scene from the jerk.
Well, as a matter of fact,
Um, uh, Averill, uh, who cuts all of our clips,
mash it up with Wayne's World, and it's the exact same thing from Wainter.
I think I'm coming back, I don't.
Yeah, well, that's because I'm not.
Fine, then go. I'm gone.
Go there. I am.
I leave now. I'm never coming back. Okay.
I'm serious. If I leave now, I'm not coming back.
Go. I'm gone. Go there.
I am.
Never.
I heard you the first time, boy.
Well, well, well, so.
There's so much stuff to talk about before he gets into the group.
Church group?
Yeah.
Also, how old are he and Aniston meant to be in this world?
They seem too old to live, to be this naive, I guess.
He, when they were shooting the movie, almost 30 for both of them.
Oh, okay.
But I feel like they were playing young 20s because at one point,
Aniston says, like, you wrote me a song when you were 15 years old,
which means that they've either dated for like 15 years
or they're like, I feel like you should be younger.
I feel like he should be younger.
Is that how you feel, Paul?
You feel like he should be younger?
I agree.
I agree for the degree of how naive they both are throughout,
it seems to me to be that they would be like 22 years old,
like wide-eyed kind of like, holy cow.
But that's a big part of her character though, right,
that she's, like she has that scene later on,
spoiler alert with Rachel Stewart in the limo
where there are girls that are 22.
And I think her whole, like her whole character
is based on the fact that she is older.
Like I think she's meant to be,
whether or not she looks at age or whatever,
I think her character is meant to be like 30.
But I would also say her character is problematic to me
in the sense that, so her job is that she's a,
of the band manager of a tribute band.
Like, that's, that's where she's like,
and I'll stop.
And she's got to manage them?
And she is the manager of one of the two
Pittsburgh-based steel dragon tribute bands.
And it's a band that I believe they say
we're the best in Pittsburgh.
Yes.
Not like we're the best on the East Coast.
They wouldn't dare say that.
States, yeah.
They're all where, when that scene happens,
when they are in the parking lot
after the Real Still Dragon Show,
and they're both fliring cars,
and they get into a fight
where each guy partners up to fight
the person he's identically dressed as,
that shit was crazy.
If I saw that in real life,
I would watch it happen
and then kill myself.
Because life will never get,
better than that.
Then watching
12 men
fight each other.
Yeah.
Each of them
lined up against their enemy.
I don't have to fight. I'm sorry.
Heartbreak.
But yeah.
So she also mentions though,
well, I mean, we'll have to get into all of it.
Their relationship, by the way, like,
dissolves within a day.
within one day of him getting this job.
Like he's literally on a walk from the car
to like the recording studio
and the 15-year relationship falls apart in that walk.
But she does say that she's going to be building
a business in Portland.
Yeah, coffee shop?
With a friend.
She's in Seattle, I'm sorry.
Oh, boy.
So sorry.
We owe Portland and Seattle an apology right now.
Should I leave?
But what was that business?
Was that the coffee shop?
I think that where she's at the end
She called that like a business.
It was,
it was pitched as though
it was like a new startup,
like a real disruptor.
But by the way, June,
it might have been
because this movie took place
in the 80s.
And obviously...
She started Starbucks.
That's the T-shirt.
Anison started Starbucks.
But like, don't you think
it was like,
Because it gets like, spoiler alert, like Mark Wahlberg becomes like Eddie better.
We don't have to spoiler alert.
This fucking trash movie.
It's not necessary.
You're welcome if it's spoiled.
Mark Wahlberg becomes Eddie better.
So, you know, like.
I feel like he was just like, he, because he's a, Mark Wahlberg's a rapper.
And he clearly is just doing movies where he's like, I'm not a rapper.
Because in this, he goes from like metal god to like Kurt Cobain who sucks.
Like he's doing anything except rapping.
Like the guy hates rap so much.
He does not like to, he leaves that part of his life.
Yeah.
And he just, and he still sucks.
There's a, there's a moment in the, in the, the, the credit sequence where they, in the
playback of the movie, because, you know, they have to, like, do playback where you
mime to the music and they played a Marky Mark track.
And you can see his face like, his face falls.
Go fuck yourself.
And then they put it in the movie.
So it's really aggressive.
It's like, remember that bit that you didn't like on set that we did?
It's in the movie now.
The other weird thing about that scene when he's like the Kurt Cobain dude or the Eddie Vedder dude
is he walks off stage in the middle of the song.
And I think he's like addicted to that.
Oh.
He's so great.
He doesn't finish songs.
He's like, I'm going to go talk to M, Emily.
And he walks off and they don't even solo.
Nobody even like fills the bass with a solo.
They just vamp.
They just vamp with the same melody
they've been playing just without vocals now.
If you were going,
if you had paid money to see that concert,
you would be like, fuck this.
You'd be like, wait a minute, where's he going?
Where's he going?
Oh, okay.
Oh, he's talking to that woman.
Okay.
Do you think he's going to go back
and sing the rest of the song?
I don't know.
He's still talking to that woman over there.
Okay, what do you think?
Well, is the guy playing a guitar solo?
No.
He's just vamping.
Okay.
Is he going to, what are we doing?
Should we leave?
What's how?
She's still talking to the woman
who's wearing an enormous knit shawl.
I was going to you a few times, Paul.
Like, do I, is this a real song?
Like, is this a song that I've heard before?
This is a real one.
June said it to me the third time the same song was played.
She goes, no, this is a real song.
I like this song.
And I said, well, no, you just heard it three days.
It's just been played three years.
That's all it takes for you to like a song.
I like it.
I've heard this.
Did you buy this soundtrack?
Why do I feel like you bought this soundtrack after you watch the movie?
This is good music.
I recognize it.
Okay.
I will say this.
I will say this.
When Talking Head started playing in this movie, I lost my mind.
It's so literal.
I was like, how on earth did they license this?
But I was.
would say why on earth would you
license the talking heads
for a movie about metal
to show the passage
of time? They make a couple
of weird music like I don't know
maybe it's a language of something
that I don't understand but it's like you're making a movie
about people in the music industry
that are making a specific type of music but
then like you use Bon Jovi
talking heads so it's like
oh I like that other stuff way better
and that's not the music that you're
even doing so it's a weird
thing to pull you out with a more famous type of music that's not the music that you're even
talking about. Oh yeah. Oh, no. Yeah. In fact, it's almost saying, it's almost reminding you,
remember what good music sounds. Yes. In the beginning of the movie, I said to Paul, I guess I did
say a lot of things. I wasn't as silent as I thought I was. But I did say to Paul like,
I can't believe I've got to listen to this music, the whole movie. Like, it was such a bummer
for me to realize that this is.
the music. It's not music. It's not what I call music.
Oh, it's not. What do you call music, Jim? You released four albums
called Now That's Not What I Call Music. And it's as you
It's just track that you don't like.
And it's you introing each song. Now this is
not what I would call music. I like to know, I like a chorus. I can hang
my hat on. I like... What kind of hat is it?
that you're hanging in,
like a jaunty cap,
an Amy Sherman Palladino
nonsense hat?
What kind of hat are we talking about?
I will say, I will say,
Dominic West,
McNulty, who I will only call McNaulty,
McNaulty's house in this movie is,
anybody?
Chilton Academy and Gilmore Girls.
That's a deep cut.
Pretty great.
By the way, I thought he was incredible
on this movie.
It was great.
You thought he was incredible in this movie?
Did.
There was a lightness to him that I haven't seen him do.
I enjoyed him.
I enjoyed him.
And listen, here's the thing.
Jen Ann and Mark Wahlberg are so goddamn watchable.
100%.
They are so watchable.
And they had a chemistry that could not be denied.
Oh, absolutely.
And I was there for it.
Deep tongue kissing in this movie.
I feel like they all led with the tongue.
Like the tongue came out of the mouth first
before the lips hit every single time.
Like that was the rule.
Like a shark jumping out of the water
to get a pelican before he goes down.
In that sort of everyone is dancing scene,
it was all tongue first.
It was all just a bunch of tongues out.
It was, I didn't know that's how you kiss,
but I've adopted it since.
The best part of the morning after that dancing scene
I see this in movies, the orgy, yeah, the massive orgy.
Post-orgy.
I see this in movies and I'm always curious about it
and maybe I'm the one that's off
but the scene opens with Jennifer Aniston
waking up and then realizing like she doesn't know where she is
and then looking into her sheets
but I've seen this before in other movies like looking into her sheets
to see what she's wearing.
As though she couldn't feel it.
Like, that's what I'm curious about.
Like, I would love it.
I would love it if she looked down,
pulled the sheets down,
and was just wearing a man's tuxedo.
Like, oh no, what have I done?
Not too bad.
Not too bad.
Tails, white tie.
Don't mind.
Like, that's...
Oh, Pat?
That's what happens to you,
like, when you have an orgy,
then like a little orgy creature comes in and puts different outfits on you all.
A leprechaun, cool, all right, what did I get?
It's as though like these people are not in their own bodies to simply feel the clothing.
It's also, it also presumes situational amnesia.
Yes.
Like when you wake up, even after a night of hard partying and drinking and poor sexual decisions,
you still kind of know what's up.
Instead, it's kind of like where she goes.
Everywhere.
She is genuinely shocked.
As if she has been unconscious for 10 hours.
I also like that the way they got into that orgy was Mark Wahlberg had two drinks.
And then he's like, Hollywood is crazy.
I'm going to fuck 3,000 people in one night.
By the way, Jim Aniston in this photo is like, oh shit, did I fuck the guy wearing chain mail?
Who did not take off the chain mail?
Did I fuck the guy wearing shirt?
Chain nail?
Chain nail, not a comfortable thing to fall asleep in.
Or I imagine have sex in.
By the way, a very noisy shirt.
A slink.
It's like, imagine a slinky back and forth.
That's the noise of fucking the guy
wearing chain mail.
Come on. Why?
Her makeup and hair still flawless.
I was upset that when that orgy scene began,
there were two beautiful women who came over to both of them.
And then they sort of turned, they both turned to Mark Wahlberg.
And then like a grosso, like blonde-tipped fucking weird guy came over to Jennifer Aniston and started grinding on her.
I was like, what the fuck?
She gets this guy?
They all kind of kept changing partners, though.
Thank God.
Switching.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That blonde guy, and the blonde guy not established.
Yeah, there's a lot of like neck.
This is
like this is not sexual
It's just
It's open mouth
It's like how they kiss in Pittsburgh
I think
Oh be careful Jake
Pittsburgh is listening
He like
All
The kissing is
I felt like they were just
Doing playback
Playback
More neck.
More rub his neck.
Open your mouth wider if possible.
Try to envelop him.
Swallow him like...
Eat her chin.
Like a praying mantis.
Eat them alive.
Swallow her face.
Swallow his face.
Rip his tongue out.
This is sex, I think.
A virgin directed this movie.
The way.
way that this movie, when he finally, when he gets called up to the big leagues to be the lead
singer of Steel Dragon, he has a pretty amazing intro into the band. He walks off the, like, walks down
the platform and then the most amazing slow-mo sequence of a fall that you think, oh shit, the movie's
over, this character's dead. Or it's going to take a regarding Henry-esque turn. Where we're going to
They're like, oh.
Shouts to J.J. Abrams.
But it's like, he takes a fall, like two steps,
falls about 12 feet on his head.
Oh, no.
He falls in a way that is...
Irreparable.
Yes.
Irrepairable.
You would...
You know, I don't want to say the rest of the movies
of Jacob's Ladder scenario,
but like, never has there been a more obvious
Jacob's Ladder scenario
than the visible death.
that we watch.
Like, this might as well be a snuff film
for Mark Wahlberg's character.
And then when he goes down,
he immediately then pounced back up,
doesn't miss a beat of the song,
sings it bloody.
By the way, the song's lyric is,
do you want blood?
Or show me blood?
Like, blood is in the lyric of the song, apparently.
God, you got lucky.
He got lucky.
Classic.
But, yeah, that scene is so, so bizarre.
Yeah, he is fully bleeding from the head.
Then he grabs a hose, pretends it's a dick,
and then, like, wets down a lot of the audience.
This is what's so weird with the tone of the movie, though.
Like, his parents follow him around.
You know, they, I guess, move from Pittsburgh to, like, tour with him.
They can fly out to see a show.
No, I know they can.
Oh, boy.
But I'm saying like it almost
But then you also see them partying at one point
Like it the tone of this movie
They're allowed to party
Advocating for like older parents
Whose kids are out of the house
Remember when they insinuate
That the dad loves eating pussy?
Yes!
That's like saying I thought
That's the press conference
We should just show the press conference
This is like
To me
This feels like an improv scene
because it's a throwaway line
that then they're like
It's a short form game
called press conference
Well no but like like the throwaway line
We'll see like here like so here
Izzy
Is that your name?
Izzy?
You had a knife
like Izzy's revenge
I'm not only
Issy pause
Why does he affect a British accent
for only that line?
Yeah
You'll never hear that again
Never again
No and like when he's on stage
He doesn't even try.
He goes, I grew up in Pittsburgh
and these guys in the wall.
It's like, it's gone.
But is he, is he?
Or is he not?
Because his name is not Izzy.
Wait, Izzy, Izzy or is he not?
But doesn't he also at some point
make Jennifer Anderson call him Izzy,
refer to him as Izzy?
Yeah.
Because that's two movies where he insists
on being called by another name.
I feel like there was a lot of Boogie Knights
in this movie, but it's like five times worse.
This is like the trial run for Boogie Knights.
Yeah.
Yeah, he was like, let me do this.
Also, this guy's hair is a real problem.
So I think we're coming up to the thing here.
So here you go.
Keep your voice and set great shape.
Oh, Ms. Reed, my choir teacher,
she always did this really cool exercise.
She's a little pussy, that sound.
Oh, yeah, all you go.
What channel is that?
Like father, like son.
Like, how were they watching a press conference?
She said, like father, like son.
And then you go, okay, that's weird.
And then they continue it.
The next scene, Jennifer Annes is like,
I'm going to make you an honest man.
Like, so you're not going to lie about eating a lot of pussy
because you'll eat my pussy.
And then the next scene, he's in the mirror going like,
I eat little pussy.
I love pussy.
I eat a little pussy.
And then Jenner is like, hey, stop talking about it.
Come on in here and do it.
It's like, wow, they really went to town on that drug.
That's his, like, are you talking to me moment?
that's his taxi driver scene
is like practicing
I eat a lot of pussy
I eat a lot of pussy
but he would never need to practice that line
because he never uses the accent
there you go
sorry
his parents
by the way isn't it nice
that his parents support him
I really I like that his parents
were supportive
I feel like this guy doesn't overcome anything
I feel like his parents are supportive
he wears makeup
No way, he never gets made fun of.
Like, it's like, he's not a hero.
He's just, like, a really privileged person.
He wears makeup in Pittsburgh, and people are fine with it.
And when he wears makeup, like, the, again, it feels like an almost scene.
Like, he's repairing the toner on a copier.
And he goes, is that makeup?
And he goes, yeah, I'm in a band.
He goes, end of the scene.
No, no take on that, no anything.
It's like, oh, misunderstanding.
Most movies.
Genuine misunderstanding.
They also pull up to a truck
and in tons of makeup and long hair
and they sing to these like steel workers
and the guys are like,
this is totally normal.
This is the town we live in
and I'm fine with it.
And I don't hate you.
I live in America that has never existed.
I also feel, can we talk about the hair?
Because I feel like it's the most hair
that's been in any movie.
Oh, it's aggressive hair.
It's almost as if like there's a competition.
and like, that's their wig?
I want mine to look like an Elizabethan wig.
It was like, it was like, it was like, everybody got to choose who they wanted to be.
I feel like McNaughty was like, I want Brian May hair from Queen.
Give me giant crazy hair.
Here's my, okay, the other question I have about her career, though.
So if she starts off as a, is his manager, was, why couldn't she continue to manage him?
Like, wouldn't that be a huge career move for her to manage this huge rock star?
Well, I feel like they already have those positions filled.
But I was confused, too, like, once she's slotted into, like, they kind of put,
Tim Spall is the band's manager.
And he's like, well, the wives, they ride in that limo over there, no wives on the thing,
whatever, whatever.
Like, she doesn't get a storyline that is like, well, I'm his manager like, you're the band.
manager. Like, there is no, like, for her moment of, like,
well, no, this is my job, you know.
She is just relegated to that wife position.
That part was so weird because that was the, how did I get here?
Montage. And it insinuated that years were passing, or like that a long time was passing.
So she rode in that shitty little car with all those blonde women for years.
And by the way, if you told me this movie, they're years.
And it seeminglyly got the cover of the same magazine like seven times.
If you told me this movie took place over the course of seven years, I would believe you.
An interesting thing about the limo scene was that they kept on alluding to all this fun she could have if she wanted to.
What did that mean?
Like, she could fuck around too.
Is that all it meant like you can fuck other guys?
Well, here we go.
And I have some interesting facts about this.
It comes with the territory.
And I mean, you can either drive yourself bad, you trying to change it, or you can simply.
adapt.
You gotta let him off release
for a bit of a romp
every once in a while.
Otherwise, they get a little cranky,
you know.
Besides, at the end of the day,
they always come home.
And who's to say
that you can't have your own fun?
Exactly.
Here's some advice for me.
Number one, learn to share.
Oh.
Number two, get very close
with his accountant.
And number three,
don't sign anything,
even if it's not typed.
I had to learn that the heart.
Now, what makes a scene interesting is that all three of these women are actual wives of rock stars.
Rachel Hunter was married to Rod Stewart and was in a relationship with Kip Winger, who was in Alice Cooper's band.
Heidi Mark was married to Vince Neal.
And Carrie Stevens was the girlfriend of the kiss drummer Eric Carr.
So they all are playing versions of themselves.
Which makes it a little bit.
This movie did not need to get meta.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's a little bit of a waste.
But I would love to follow that Rachel Hunter character.
Rachel Hunter.
Yeah, I guess just Rachel Hunter.
Just follow her on Twitter.
Oh, like, is it that easy?
I think so.
All right.
It is, wow.
Wow, wow, wow.
Interesting thing about this movie was Brad Pitt was supposed to be.
play the lead and he dropped out due to creative differences.
I like to think of Mark, the character he plays in this movie as the guy Rachel dated after
Ross but before Brad.
Let's go to the crowd.
Let's see what they have to say about this movie.
All right, let me come down to you.
And tonight, if you ask a good question, or pretty much any question, you'll get a gift
from our good friends at IMAX
who one day I showed up to work
and I have like boxes of IMAX shit
and so thank you IMAX
Okay, yes, right over here
and ask the question in your best
British accent, okay?
And we've seen what's happened in the movie
so just try it. It doesn't have to work 100%.
So, okay, your name?
It's Candy.
Okay, Kennedy, ask your question, British accent, go.
Can we talk about how after
the British accent pussy conversation
and he asked him to himself in the mirror.
The song is lick it up by Kiss.
Amazing.
That was great.
You're awesome.
Yes.
All the music cues are so obvious.
All the music cues are so on the nose.
There is no subtlety at all.
Sir, your name?
Greg.
Greg, your question in the British accent.
Go.
First of all, I have a little something.
Okay, great, in the British accent.
Okay.
I got a little something for you, Paul and Jason.
I have the movie that shall not be named, a Jacob's Ladder.
Oh, an actual Jacob's Ladder toy.
Oh, thank you so much.
Thank you so much.
So I have a question.
At the end, when he leaves the band and just walks off stage,
where'd the money go?
He seems to be hitchhiking home.
Yeah, they didn't pay for a return flight.
Hitchhiking home with a guitar he has never played
and will never play.
He's not a guitarist.
By the way, I just want to point out that this gentleman is wearing a Steel Dragon shirt.
Wait.
Where did you...
Amazing.
Is that homemade or is that...
Where did you find that?
Wait, don't applaud this.
Why?
Is that homemade or did you find that?
Online.
Wow.
All right.
Your still dragon shirts.
Are your name and your question in a British accent?
I'm Eloise.
Can I please not do it?
Try.
Just try it.
Just try it.
Just try it.
You got this, Eloise.
So, I'm not, but okay.
So Jennifer Anderson drinks a drink before the orgy scene
and then is like stumbling around and like the creepy manager dude is like
gravity doesn't exist here.
And was she drug?
Was she roofied?
I thought the same thing.
I thought they did.
I thought she'd be like a closer.
I thought she'd as well.
Let me go over here.
That was a good question.
Here we got.
All right.
What we got?
All right.
Yes.
Are your name?
Guys, don't not raise your hands because you don't want to.
to do a British accent.
Raise your hand. Be brave, audience. Be brave.
All right, my name's Brittany. My question is.
I don't know what this accent is, but
they have the orgy, right?
Mark Wildberg wakes up the next day. He walks in.
The girl is peeing, standing up.
It's the very, here you go,
here's your glasses, there you go.
All right, so, obviously.
It was just like what happened there.
Oh, she had a dig.
All right.
Wait, hang on.
Were you confused on that?
It's pretty homophobic, transphobic,
every which way.
But also like the band kicks out the singer for being gay,
but then is very progressive on trans issues,
which was so confusing.
I couldn't figure out if they were kicking him out
because he was gay or if he was using that against them.
I couldn't figure that whole conversation out.
And then he's like Irish dancing at the end as if that's a gay thing.
That was also strange.
Michael Flaherty is a virulent heterosexual man.
I just thought.
Like Michael Flatly?
Really?
Yeah, he's super, super straight.
Trust me.
Yes, sir, your name and your question in British.
Damon.
And on that same point, why is this world where only gay people don't have big hair?
And that's not his big secret is I'm gay.
Therefore, this was always a weird.
Even though I have a perfectly healthy
full head of hair, I couldn't grow it out
because I'm really gay.
That's a good point.
Great point. I'm going to get you an IMAX.
Good point. Good point.
All right. One more question.
One more question. If you're British,
you definitely get to ask a question.
You're British in the back?
No.
You British?
All right, come forward. All right. You can come forward.
All right. Oh, sorry.
All right. Let's just, let's see. A real Brit.
Here we go.
Hi, how are you?
All right.
I get your name and your question.
Kylie, and my question is...
Kylie, I know you.
You're not British.
Yeah, I don't believe it.
I don't believe it.
Kylie, no.
Not a real Brit, Paul.
Not a real Brit.
The mic, though.
Very crappy with the mic, Kylie.
I know you.
Kylie, she's not British, right?
She's not British.
She's a lovely individual.
I do want to, like, have a couple more people
stand up to figure out if they're really British.
Oh, yeah.
Okay, here's the challenge.
Who can trick us into thinking they're actually British?
Say one line.
Kylie, you blew it.
Also, I know you.
Kylie's already not British.
All right, so it's like, all right, ma'am, one line.
One line.
Hello, I have one absolute small question.
No.
It was pretty good.
It was pretty good.
I need one more line.
I need one more line.
Do you have a specific line you want me to say or just?
You're not British.
You're not British.
Oh.
Yeah, yeah.
All right.
These guys are dressed like steel panther, by the way.
Amazing.
All dressed as Steel Panther.
Steel dragon.
Steel dragon.
Do you think that when Timothy...
No, I don't think...
I don't think...
This British chest feels racist.
And I love it.
I hold it. I'll do my...
Cheer up, Chuckie.
Never rep in.
Yes.
Totally British. Totally British. That was real. That was crazy real.
You did it.
Ladies and gentlemen, Prince Harry.
So this character that Mark is playing, at one point he gets upset at the time on the road,
whether it's a week, seven years, a month. We don't know how long it's been.
And then he replaces himself on stage effortlessly.
He's like, you can do this?
Great, get up here.
Later.
That's the weirdest way.
Like, it's so easy to be in that band.
You just have to go to the front of the stage and just scream.
And then they're like, yeah, that's fine.
Like, it's not hard to be in the band at all.
And the fact that the audience is like kind of okay with it.
They're like, yeah, works.
Works for us.
They're on so much heroin.
They don't care.
Well, it really is the idea of like, oh, the interchangeability of these lead singers is like, oh, I guess anybody can do this?
But that's not a thing.
That's literally not a thing that happens.
And also, that guy's never played these songs live before with this band.
It's also like, I feel like at that moment, it's supposed to be like this really cool thing that Mark Wahlberg is doing for the guy.
But it's like the guy who introduces you to smoking when you're eight.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's like this is good.
You just ruin this motherfucker's life.
Like this guy is going to kill himself
It's like a deal with the devil.
It's like, you can replace me because I'm miserable.
I'm like, yeah.
Jake, who introduced you to smoking at eight?
That is a British person.
No, come on.
Are those people in those world?
Oh, no.
This interview with Jennifer Anniston made me laugh
because you'll see what is happening.
She was dating Brad Pitt at the time.
That's why the interviewer asked her about Brad Pitt.
So here you go.
Did Brad give you?
any advice to play this to play this role um well you know there's all sorts of i can't say he sat down
and gave me advice but he definitely um talked me through just sort of her sensibilities you know
and which we kind of i figured out sort of anyway which was just not knowing because there
wasn't much of a part there so i didn't know how to elevate it you know i didn't know what
its purpose was, except that once I figured out that she was sort of, you know, I mean,
once we developed the character, because there was really nothing at first.
And then she sort of became the audience's perspective.
Which I just think is fun that she was like...
It wasn't much of a part there.
She's not wrong.
She's great, though.
She is.
I would watch this movie.
Like, that's what this movie is.
Like, when we picked it, I was like, I've seen this on TBS.
This is fine.
And when you just have to sit and watch the whole thing.
thing.
I would argue she is the most interesting character in this movie.
Yeah, 100%.
This movie, if it was from her perspective,
more than anybody else's.
Well, she's the only one?
Hang on.
I didn't need one single person
to applaud through that.
The only thing that I,
the only thing,
that was me.
No, no, no.
Don't, that wasn't what I was doing.
What's wrong with you, people?
More of you.
You need to leave.
She's obviously, she's the smartest, most developed character.
Ultimately, she has a plan, she has a job, she's getting forward, and she's like, you know what,
I don't like this lifestyle, I'm going to open up my coffee shop and start a fucking trend in America
with independent coffee shops.
And if that falls apart, I'll just pierce people's nipples.
That nipple piercing scene was not fun for me.
No, I couldn't watch that.
It was too many close-ups of-
Was that needle sterilized?
No, he definitely got an infection
in more ways than one in this movie.
I for real feel like
the line should have been like
when he's playing in the...
Well, I won't even play the whole thing
because it's really visual but I will just say that
this is the...
Oh yeah, there's a lot of tongue, but this is what I don't want to see.
Close upon needle, in the liquor,
and then here we go, hold on one second.
We don't have to get that close.
We don't need it.
And you know, you know, that's not Mark Wahlberg.
So you know they're like, does anybody want to get their nipple pierced today?
And some grip was like, I'll do it.
So then they do it.
They get the nipple.
They, you know, they cut away from this.
Sorry, June.
All right, cut away.
And then as soon as you think, oh, it's over, thank God.
Boom, right back.
Which is, by the way, like a paperclip.
Like a twisted up paperclip is what she puts in.
It looks so hot.
Oh, yes, painful.
I agree with Paul painful.
I don't mean hot.
Obviously, we had an opinion about this movie,
but there are people out there with a different opinion.
It's now time for second opinions.
You know, I'm just a normal guy.
I grew up with post.
of these guys on my wall.
Now I'm one of them.
Up and shout.
Up and shout.
But you're thinking.
Change your taste and move.
Read my...
You see.
Opinions.
What's your name?
Here we go.
Here's a book by our friend Scott C.
And you can have that and have a seat.
Thank you so much.
To take that raw vocal track
and put music to it.
That was pretty fucking impressive.
And that guy was nervous to come up.
I think I got something.
Meanwhile, he had a fucking whole act worked out flawlessly.
And by the way, Ryan, like, sat like a fucking gentleman,
waited until nobody raised their hand,
then it was like, fine, I'll fucking do it.
You four dudes dressed like Steel Dragon.
Dress up, but not prepare a song.
You blew it, dummies.
Well, here we go.
502 reviews for this film.
50%
5 stars
50%
are 5 stars?
Yes.
Holy shit.
So this one is called
my all-time favorite rock and roll movie
by Rick Brunson.
Having spent a number of years
on the road
with an American hard rock band
Reed, White Snake,
Deaf Leopard, Van Halen,
I was blown away
by the authenticity of rock star.
In particular, the character
were believable and authentic
reed, egocentric,
self-absorbed with a dash of charisma.
The film is an accurate depiction
of how it really is
headlining and living the life.
For those of you who lived
or want to experience the
edgy, in your face, hardcore era,
this is it.
Five stars.
And by the way,
a majority of these reviews,
express a very similar sentiment.
So all of them are written from people who are in bands?
A lot are.
Like I'm being, I'm not, that's not yet, a lot are.
This one's written by G. Madison.
What can I say?
Excellent movie. Mark Wahlberg, excellent.
FYI, when I submitted my first review, it was based on the TV version.
Now that I've seen the uncut DVD version, I want to say I don't care for the raunchy, vulgar,
sexually related terms like the P, the D, and the F word.
I know that doesn't bother many others
and I know those terms are used in many R-rated movies
and they should be expected in a movie about a rock band
but I just want to make it clear that I don't care for that.
Aside from that, though, an excellent movie.
Five stars.
What else was there besides that in the movie?
The version he watched was 45 minutes long.
This is from AI Baruti.
As one who fully accepts that you are what you desire and act upon,
this movie hits the spot.
Not only is it about more than music, as alluded to,
it is about life itself.
Life in the sense that we all have a secret,
and sometimes not so secret,
dream that we all hold within.
More often than not, such a dream goes unrealized.
Perhaps this will be lost on some,
then again, maybe not.
But live your life
and you will feel me.
Defer not your dreams,
for they are the very thing
that can and will
and do guide the ship
that you call your life.
I would bet
I would bet my life that
Walberg wrote that review himself.
This one
this one right
here. This is a one-liner.
This is from Randy Given.
I've seen many movies of this genre.
Although movies like Almost Famous have won more awards,
this movie is my favorite. It's more honest.
Five stars.
Almost famous, written by someone who actually was on the road with...
No big deal.
Okay.
Dee Rauch writes this.
Yep, that's right. With Rockstar,
a film where he went to take a piss
is the ultimate catchphrase.
Not all the cliches in the world
can stop it from being a really deep drama.
Half of you probably think I'm on crack.
Oh well, I'm not, by the way.
With the vehicle for this right of passage theme story
being heavily dipped in 80s excess,
many people trash this movie despite
it's somewhat tongue-in-cheek satirical treatment.
But you know what? You're missing the point of the film.
What is life about?
Yes, folks.
That is the question.
And a little movie called Rockstar
left me pondering that
as I exited the theater.
And more recently,
when I turned off the DVD player,
five stars.
And then this one should be read
in a cockney, British accent.
Well, anyone want to take a shot at that?
You made everybody else do it.
All right, I'll say like this.
Bloody hell, mate, this flick is tops, man.
Long live steel dragon and...
Staddle!
And show!
A must for any music lover.
Five stars.
There we go.
Those are our five-star reviews.
By the way, that was a great...
That was a great rendition to stand up and show.
Yeah, really solid, right?
There was love it if that became your karaoke songs.
Stand up!
No, I lost it.
There was one more piece of trivia I just wanted to say.
When I googled this movie, I went to the Wikipedia page,
and the movie came out September 7, 2001.
which was four days before 9-11,
which Mark Wahlberg said he could have stopped.
But he couldn't save his own movie, so I doubt it.
And I think it's a beautiful part about this movie's history.
Go to Wikipedia, it's real.
Just a couple of quick facts about the movie.
The tagline is the story of a wannabe who got to be.
And also, it was made for 50.
57 million.
And, yes.
And it made 17.
I do believe that the 9-11 probably affected that.
57 million dollars?
57 million dollars.
American?
This is made in, yeah, American dollars.
And here, if you were following with us,
this movie, the top three movies of the year,
were Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone,
Lord of the Rings, and Shrek.
and this movie
came out
108th in all the movies that came out there
and it was beaten by a movie that we did
called Crocodile Dundee in Los Angeles
but however
it beat on the line a movie
that we did with the in sync kids
and glitter so
it didn't fall to the bottom of the track there
was that hubcap and turkey sandwich
yeah that was on the line
turkey sub
so there we go any other
final thoughts on rock
star. I didn't care for it.
Yeah, that's a good question. Would you recommend this movie?
I would not. I would not. It didn't cross over into being so fun to me that it would be
necessary really to watch. You could watch it like, you could get a taste of it.
But I don't think you need to watch the whole movie.
I feel like when I watch a trailer, I was like, oh yeah, I got that movie.
Pretty much. You know, it's kind of... I don't think it's necessary to watch.
How about they got the soundtrack from?
What's that?
Soundtrack, June?
I would argue it's most interesting.
before he gets into Steel Dragon.
Like the battle of the Steel Dragon tribute bands
is more interesting to me than anything else.
I hear that.
Jake, what do you think?
This is just one random thing.
Why did it have bookends of documentary footage?
That was another weird thing.
It's like this isn't a documentary
and it's not cool. Stop.
Yeah.
It felt like that was a half idea
that they were like, oh, but yeah, let's forget that.
It really is, yeah, there's,
no other... What are we talking about here?
Yeah, I don't know. I love the movie and I think
everyone should watch it.
So Jake, you have a...
Hot Jake, Jake, Jake, so
your show, which you created,
corporate is on Comedy Central. It's
really funny. How would you describe it?
I mean, it's, it's like, I feel like
the most realistic version
of an, like, of, like,
corporate, like,
cubicle America kind of a show.
Yeah, it's kind of like office space meets
American Psycho.
And basically, it's like how, you know how most offices, you know how like even you're at this
job right now and it's a really great job, but you still want to die?
That's kind of what everyone feels at every job.
That's what the show's about.
And it's got a great cast.
It's on Wednesday nights, but you can watch it on the Comic Central app.
At cc.com at any time, yeah.
Perfect.
Gene, what would you like to plug?
I will plug, Grace and Frankie, because the fourth season is streaming right.
now.
So you can watch that.
Jason.
Oh, I got nothing.
Although I will say, I will say, and we've plugged this before, but I will say,
Paul and I did another episode of the Chris Getherd show.
Oh, yeah.
It's on True TV.
I don't know how to watch it at this point, but in the first two minutes of the show,
Chris Getherd abandons his own talk show and leaves Paul and I holding the hat for an hour-long
live television.
scripted, nothing to do. We had no
we had no one told us anything. We didn't know what was going to happen. We didn't
know he was leaving. Yeah. And we fucking crushed it.
We killed it. We brought a tortoise out there. We brought the entire audience on the street.
It's good. And I would say it's worth the money to just buy it on iTunes or something.
If it exists on iTunes, I would say, buy it.
Yeah, it's called The Chris Getherd Show.
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