How Did This Get Made? - Rollerball LIVE!

Episode Date: January 26, 2024

The HDTGM crew break down the 2002 sci-fi sports flick Rollerball starring Chris Klein, LL Cool J, & Rebecca Romijn. LIVE from the VETS in Providence, Rhode Island, they discuss the opening street lug...e sequence, the use of night vision, Slipknot's cameo, and how director John McTiernan went to prison trying to protect his cut of the movie. John-a-ton! John-a-ton! John-a-ton!  UPCOMING TOUR DATES IN: San Francisco, the UK, & Ireland! Go to hdtgm.com for tix and info.Pre-Order Paul’s book about his childhood, Joyful Recollections of Trauma, wherever books are soldFor extra Matinee Monday content, visit Paul's YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheerHDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheerFollow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer/Check out Paul and Rob Huebel live on Twitch (www.twitch.tv/friendzone) every Thursday 8-10pm ESTSubscribe to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson here: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael here: www.thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcastCheck out The Jane Club over at www.janeclub.comCheck out new HDTGM merch over at https://www.teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmWhere to find Jason, June & Paul:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on Twitter

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, people of Earth. It's me, Paul Shear, with a very special announcement. If you want to see us on the road, you can. February 3rd in San Francisco as we are doing Samurai Cop. That's right, we've never done it. And we're doing it for the first time in San Francisco. Tickets are still available. February 3rd, go to HDTGM.com for tickets and info.
Starting point is 00:00:21 We'll see you on the road. Bye for now. Finally, a movie that makes the XFL look like a good idea. We saw a rollerball, so you know what that means. Howdy! Just a sucker, punch the eye, life's a tip, it's a great shot Man, you're the first to make how you stand alive They call me the bad ass and he's on the line Frank and Nate, Nate and Nenis, cause they cool as ice Cause they bad Jim, Barney looking kind of nice Paul and Jordan, getting lit, will Jason is getting late
Starting point is 00:01:16 Julas make the show, all the monkey shots, give me pain They're just a bunch of movies, why they making the grade? Here's a real question for you, how did this kid pay? Making the grave is a real question for you how did this get We are here to talk about a very important movie. That's right, the 2002... The 2002... Chris Klein classic. If you hear the audience reacting, it's because I came dressed
Starting point is 00:01:54 as a professional rollerballer. That's right, I've tattooed my own number under my eye. Now, if you've not seen Rollerball, and I don't suggest that you do, but if you have not seen it, let me tell you, it takes place in the future where sports entertainment has graduated to a new form of rollerball, motorcycle, hockey, basketball, and get this, it's kind of corrupt. That's right.
Starting point is 00:02:30 The more people get hurt, the higher the ratings go, and when Chris Klein finds out about that, he's confused. And then after multiple people tell him he has to stop it, he decides, all right, now I'll stop it. Which builds to a very exciting climax because it means the movie is over. This is a remake of a 1975 James Cohn movie that was very much a political statement about corporations and entertainment
Starting point is 00:03:06 and they got rid of all of that. But you'll get into this movie in every detail. Let me bring out my co-host. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Jason Manzukes. What's up, Jax? What's up, Rhode Island? That's what I'm talking about. Providence came to play. Let me tell you, Jason, if there was a place for a roller
Starting point is 00:03:45 ball league, I think Providence might be it. Oh, yeah. I feel like Providence would excel. And it wouldn't, but it wouldn't be like rap rock. It would be like somehow ska punk. I like it. I'm in. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:04:05 There's no one better to talk about ska, punk, or accents than my next co-host. Please welcome to the stage Miss Jude Diane Raphael. Wow. How are you, Jim? Wow. How are you, Jim? I'm okay. This was an odd one. This was strange stuff.
Starting point is 00:04:39 I don't know what you mean. It made total sense to me. This... It was compellingly portrayed by every actor in the movie. This movie is when, I guess when politicians in the 80s were like, MTV is bad, this proved them right. I felt the same, Paul. I felt like I don't trust youth culture.
Starting point is 00:05:02 I don't like it. I felt very upset by everything that was happening in this movie. And by the way, when I realized, oh, this is a sports film. Well. Is it? Well. I was looking forward to that. And I did say to you, Paul, I said, is rollerball a sport? Yeah. Right. And you said, we'll save that question for tonight. So I asked both of you, is this a sport that exists in the world?
Starting point is 00:05:32 No. But shouldn't it be? But here's what I'll say. No, it's not. I mean, like the closest we've come to rollerball existing is Starlight Express. The Andrew Lloyd Webber Roller Skating Musical. That's a deep cut. Providence not with me.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Look, rollerball is like roller derby meets like professional wrestling with like an element of the movie The Running Man. It's an odd thing, but in 2023, it doesn't feel as far off as I did in 2002. Well, you said something that was particularly, in the beginning, I think you said that this movie takes place in the future. Yes. I don't think it does. Really? I think the James Cahn one takes place in the future. Oh, okay. Which is an easy mistake to make. But I think this movie is meant to be a commentary on current, whatever.
Starting point is 00:06:33 What is it? 2000 and? Two. Two. All right, well that's interesting, because I thought it was like- But I'm so glad to know there was another movie because when I watched the opening credits
Starting point is 00:06:43 and I saw screenplay based on another screenplay, I was like, whatever, could that mean? It's a screenplay based on a screenplay based on the short story of the man who wrote the screenplay. Which is itself based on a stoned conversation had. Alright, I will start off with The Good. The Good is this opening sequence, put this up against any mission impossible movie.
Starting point is 00:07:15 This is awesome. The Street Luge is fucking crazy. Okay, I also don't even understand what's going on. I don't understand a lot of this movie, but so Chris Klein gathers people, they pay to take photographs of this, and then, but he also is in competition. Oh, so does Stree Luge happen on working streets?
Starting point is 00:07:41 Like, it said, to me, Stree Luge is like cleared out, like we want to we're gonna go fast and race, but the idea that they're inside of pedestrians and traffic seemed crazy. And photographers who are there to capture it but also are like like kind of jeering them like hey look up. They're like fucking with them. What are the photographers doing with those photos exactly? Putting them in like thrash or a magazine? Yeah. I couldn't get a sense of like, are they making money as street losers?
Starting point is 00:08:16 Who even knows? The only way to make money is a North American cable deal. And if they're not doing that, then they're not making money. That's what this writer strike and actor strike was all about. That's what we're doing. We're fighting.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Trying to get back to the North American cable deal. We need the residuals. We need the residuals. We need the residuals. Pencils down. Here's the thing. The amount of police officers at Chris Klein's house was shocking. For what?
Starting point is 00:08:47 For what? For what? For street loosing? Yes. For street loosing? Come on. Jason, at most street loosing has to be like a misdemeanor. There's no way.
Starting point is 00:08:57 What crime did he commit? Yes. OK. Find the Zodiac Killer. By the way, you already got one of the losers because he flew through a Chinese restaurant that seemingly was open at six in the morning. Maybe it was a dim someplace. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:09:13 But it seemed like they started street losing at like 4 a.m. And to get from the top of San Francisco down to the bottom. It's like surfing, Paul. It's like that's when you catch the best. I get that they need to do it, but it seems like the sun came up very quickly. When, how did it... I'll be honest, I wasn't always looking directly at the movie while it was screening. How did, when Chris Klein is street loozing? Yes. Fucking hell.
Starting point is 00:09:42 This movie, the first act of this movie is street looge followed by a single Rollerball game by the way 35 Rollerball games in this whole movie and they and it seems as though the movie is four hours long as a result It's so long. I watch this movie on 1.25 speed I don't know Jason This is where I really struggled. Again, and I'm all for it. I love pickleball. I can get, I love pickleball. I would say that. Are you here in John McTiernan? Remake this movie as pickleball. No, because what I want to
Starting point is 00:10:22 say is this. I am happy to get behind a sport that the culture has deemed silly. And I'm happy to see an alternative sport represented on my screen. And I'm happy to root for it. But I never got a sense that this team was practicing, working on different plays, working on strategy? I'd love to know what positions they were playing. Positions are tricky. Motorcycle is? I'd love to see a training montage. It's like they just... Like any of us right now could have been thrown into that ring and could have played. It seems and succeeded, but can I just go back to this one thought I had?
Starting point is 00:11:05 this movie is About a professional or want to be professional hockey player who makes money Street losing who then becomes a professional Rollerballer None of those things add up right right? The Luge doesn't help Rollerball. Hockey is played on skates, not rollerblades. Like, he is...
Starting point is 00:11:31 It wasn't like, oh, well, you're so good at Street Luge. Like, why is he just going down the street with Rollerball? In my opinion, if you're an NHL prospect, don't be Street Lusion. You're gonna fucking fuck up your whole opportunity. It wasn't a street losing for 400 bucks, which I think he had to split with that other guy who seemed to have it out for him. He's like, hey man, back off. I love Chris Klein. You love Chris Klein? I thought it was a great performance. I did.
Starting point is 00:12:05 I'm sorry, I'm sorry. What just happened? Where am I? What? I thought with what he had. And by the way, I think Rebecca Romain's performance, and I would like to thank you for your support. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:12:23 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. What? I thought with what he had. And by the way, I think Rebecca Romain's performance, and I won't say Romain's Stamos, I will call her by her Christian name. Rebecca Romain. Do we know she's Christian? I don't. I thought she gave a wonderful performance. I love that accent. I'm sorry Angelina Jolie. Angelina? I'm sorry all of you out there.
Starting point is 00:12:49 But she played a European-esque badass as good as the rest of them. I thought she was on board. As good as the rest of them. I thought Rebecca Romain also. Fantastic. Fantastic. Prime RR. Oh yes, working out topless? I love it.
Starting point is 00:13:13 I have to talk about though, Jason. Well please. I'm so sorry to interrupt. You know what, I find it very rude when I'm interrupted. Jason hates being interrupted by women in particular. I'm so sorry. How dare you? I'm so sorry to interrupt you,
Starting point is 00:13:29 but I did find the topless work in this movie. So many, there's like the top, it was very strange because the topless women were oddly, except for the announcer, not sexualized. Like there's so many toas women in the locker room. It's very Starship Troopers is what I wrote. Okay. I feel like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:52 I feel like they wanna be doing a Paul Verhoeven kind of thing. Yes. But I really loved it and I thought it worked. And I was like, this is, you're getting me on board with Rollerball. When I see all of these Tapas women I'm walking around in a locker room, now I don't want to be tapas in a women's locker room. And when I see that type of parody, I tip my hat.
Starting point is 00:14:12 So I don't know what the culture of rollerball is. I would have liked to see some more balls. I would have like make this make this movie more like naked attraction. Show some of the junk up and down under. My question is even alone, if you were alone, left to your own devices, would you lift heavy weights? Nude. No.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Would you work out nude? That's weird. It's like that killer in Die Hard 2... She's in the dark? That's not safe. In Die Hard 2, when you first meet the bad guy, he's doing tai chi naked, and you see this like tanned ass cheeks, and I'm like, oh, I know he's a bad dude,
Starting point is 00:14:52 because if you're doing tai chi naked, something's messed up up here. So I feel like it's sending us a mixed signal. Like, she shouldn't be it. It's too dark in there. She needs to protect her body, at least wear some gloves so she doesn't get calluses. They also do this thing with her where she is...
Starting point is 00:15:08 For the first bunch of the movie, I found that she was always in shadow, always in helmet, always obscured. I loved her helmet. Loved it. I thought it was great. I thought there was a lot of cool design elements in the whole movie, except for the jester's head. I could not get on board for the jester's head. And how about the jester's puppet? Yes, the jester's hat? I could not get on board for the jester's hat. And how about the jester's puppet?
Starting point is 00:15:26 Yes, the jester's puppet, crazy. But I didn't realize for so long that it was Rebecca Romain. Really? So much so that it wasn't until their adventure where they come to the riots and she's like, we gotta go, we gotta go. And I was like, Rebecca Romain?
Starting point is 00:15:41 Wow. Well, I thought she did beautiful work. Well, here's the thing. Her face is covered for her introduction. Like, we don't see her. I have a lot of questions. Well, and we're meant to believe that she's insecure about her scar, and that's why.
Starting point is 00:15:57 And Chris Klein is like, your scar is not even that bad. It's not, you don't even worry about it or whatever. That she's like ashamed of that, and that's why she covers up or something? That seems to be some reason. Seems like a weird thing to be worried about when you play professional rollerball. Here's the thing, I just want to go back to Chris Klein for one second because I think they do him a disservice. In one of the first lines
Starting point is 00:16:27 he says, he's like, oh man, look at all those baubles you got. Baubles? Like, this is a person who should never say the word baubles. But Paul, because I thought that too, and I actually had a conversation with myself, I said, if you were given, you saw that on a page, and you were told, say that line. Say that line like it's your own. I thought his delivery of, whoa, look at those baubles was honestly Oscar worthy. I honestly tell me you could do it any better. He had to say those words. That's why I thought the movie took place in the future.
Starting point is 00:17:02 I was like, only would a person in the future be so comfortable using the term baubles. Here's what I'll say, June. And I agree. And I think Chris Klein's great. But everything, all the... He's not. He's not. He's doing his best. He's doing his best. Everything you're giving to him, I'm giving to LL Cool J. Because to me... Oh, I agree.
Starting point is 00:17:20 I mean, it's wonderful. I never take a thing away from him. Not that you're taking it away from him. But in watching it, he was. Not that you're taking it away from him. But in watching it, he was the one that I was like, oh, here, he feels organic and he feels like he exists in the world. Right. In a way that Chris Klein never settled in for me. Well, there are moments though where they talk.
Starting point is 00:17:40 He's like, hey man, come with me, play roller ball in Kazakhstan as part of the Zombel horseman. And he goes, you know, I'll run defense, you run offense. I never would have expected running defense meant that LL Cool J spends most of his time on a motorcycle. But I did not. Had LL Cool J played hockey with him? It'll be just like old times.
Starting point is 00:18:02 I was like, and doing hockey? Because the skills are not at all applicable. Well, that's what I'm saying. They don't seem to have. Like again, why Street Luge? A thing that doesn't factor into any part of the movie. Like at the end, if you had them escape via Street Luge, you're like, ah.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Wouldn't that be great? Wouldn't that be great? But the movie that this reminded me of the most, that it, and I say this in the sense that, what the movie could have been, the promise of the movie, because I feel like it doesn't follow through enough because it doesn't wanna have any fun.
Starting point is 00:18:38 This movie is triple X, The Return of Xander Cage. Yes. Like, to me, this- Is that a movie we covered? Yes, it is. Ha ha ha ha ha! Vin Diesel skis down a non-snow-covered mountain. You might remember. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:18:55 No. I wanted this movie to have some of that, like, gonzo fun element to it. Yeah. But it doesn't. Nor do I care about any of the people really so But we are also forced and this is the craziest thing We're forced to watch
Starting point is 00:19:15 30 minute long games that none of us understand the rules for and and when the rules are explained Like they try to simplify it. Isn't that so hard? It's because I actually went back, Paul, to watch the rules at one point. And I thought, I understand the game less now. Yes, it is. I'm getting further away from it. See, look, look, look, scene three, we'll watch the... Is this still the announcer?
Starting point is 00:19:40 This is the announcer. This is a WWF legend, Paul Heyman, who... He's wonderful in the movie. He's a role bright spot. I mean, by the way, all the announcers because they cut to all the announcers. I love them and that they were there. I like that. I also just thought of this guy, this announcer sitting there for one day and they're like, okay, so now this happens. Oh my God. You know, he was never there on any day. Like it was just like one day they're like, now you're shocked.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Oh! You know, and he looks and when you're first meeting all the announcers, we're like, we're brought into this world via him. Like he's hung over in the back of a cab and we're watching him go to work. And then I'm like, well, this is again, why I think it's the future.
Starting point is 00:20:23 It's like we're in a bombed out shelter, but this thing seems to be sponsored out the ass. It's like he's drinking Fanta's, there's Condomad. I also was like, are the announcers famous as well because they travel to all the events everywhere? And I couldn't figure that out, but this scene, because I wrote down a bunch of it, because I was like, he gives a two minute detailed rule
Starting point is 00:20:46 by rule breakdown. Only to have the third act of the movie them be like, this one, no rules. But none of them. All the rules you learned, boom, no rules. But I would also argue, he gives a two minute long breakdown. We're going to watch this. He gives a two minute long breakdown, and then goes,
Starting point is 00:21:03 and there are a lot of rules that I won't even tell you. Cause they're in Russian. Cause they're in Russian. But yet this is not a Russian sport because they travel all around the world. So why is it just, did he only have the Russian rule book?
Starting point is 00:21:18 Is it different when they're in, I don't know. Here, take a look at the rules. A team will score around the track twice, maintaining possession of the roller ball before they can score. It's really that simple. As simple as using a lifestyle, claiming condom before sex.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Can you pause for one second? Yes. Okay. I had closed captioning on. It didn't translate any foreign languages at all. Did I fuck up or did the movie fuck up? Did I not turn on a thing? It would have helped so much for this to be information I can receive.
Starting point is 00:21:58 This moment is odd because we are introduced to a world in which every part of this organization is selling to advertisers. And when this guy mentions a condom brand, he's like, what? What? Like, weird? No, it's not weird. Everything is a fucking brand in this. I mean, well, I guess maybe it's all... I think the joke was just like female condoms. Oh, it's female condoms. I think so. Is it? Oh. I get it now. Women don't need those shits.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Cool. Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha. Do those still exist? I think so, yeah. How do they work? It's a portion of them.
Starting point is 00:22:43 I'll tell you, at one, it's like a diaphragm. Right. You fold it, you tuck the whole thing inside, and it's like the whole thing is then... It creates a wall, essentially. It's like a bag is coming out. Yeah. And so you go inside the bag.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Got it. The diaphragm thing then pops open so that it is tight in there and that that's what you got. Yeah. I've heard. I think that's right. I think that's right. Alright. Be safe out there Providence. These fucking monsters are out here raw-dogging each other. Look under your seat, you've got a buddy, Cianzi, female condom. Um...
Starting point is 00:23:33 Fox in the box. Fox in the box. Fox in the box. Let's watch the rest of this rules, because it's worthy if you've not seen the movie yet. Just hear some more rules. The ball must be held at all times. Player gear may be only used to dislodge the ball or prevent a score.
Starting point is 00:23:51 A team gaining possession must first do the rabbit hole. That's that killer. By the way, Paul, Paul, thank you for a second. Look at how small this rink is. Yeah. There are four motorcycles that are about to arrive in there. Four, two on each team. This is the reason.
Starting point is 00:24:09 This is the circus level size. Here's the other thing. Imagine you tune in to Sunday afternoon football and they go, all right, everybody, let me explain the game. It's called football. We got two teams. This is what the field looks like. Like this is not game one, but it seems like every like this is like, okay, I gotta explain it again. Like to break it. And the sport's called basketball. Players got to dribble it. And if they stop
Starting point is 00:24:38 dribbling it, it's called a double dribble. And then they got to shoot it into a net, but they can only shoot it into one net. if they shoot it in the other net It doesn't count and now to start the game the live band that soundtracks this sport by the way Including I thought that was a great idea. Did you see great idea? Slipknot is one of the best. Did you see that pink was on the wall? What? is one of the bands. Did you see that pink was on the wall? What? Yes!
Starting point is 00:25:05 Okay, I was like, is that pink or does it look like pink? But I was like, it is pink. Pink is on, like at one point when Chris Klein's walking through something, pink's like singing, she's another one of the, she's out in Mongolia, you know, supporting Rollerball in 2002. That's incredible. Cause I couldn't make heads or tails out of like,
Starting point is 00:25:27 like, what is it, here comes the boom? What's that song? There are so many bad songs. Slipknot was digitally inserted into the film. No. Yes. I'm sorry. Say that again.
Starting point is 00:25:40 Slipknot, not unlike a female condom, was slipped into the knot. To the knot? They were slipped into the knot? No, they were. Slipknot was digitally inserted into the film after, because they're like, we need to get this movie more popular. We need to get Slipknot in there. So I think this is like a majority of CGI budget was spent to put them behind the wall.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Wow. I thought it was effective. I was all bored. Money was spent, as far as I'm concerned. I love that this movie took on a labor movement. And the rise, I really did. I was like, OK, OK, Rollerball. The workers movement and the workers of the mind rising up at the end, I was very
Starting point is 00:26:25 much on board for. I really was. I was like, okay. At the beginning, right in this next beat, when they're talking, and maybe it's Chris Klein's first game, is this first game? He's used to know everybody. But regardless, one of the opposing players, they introduce as the local boy made good.
Starting point is 00:26:49 You know, he's the big bruiser. Local boy made good. He was from the mines, and now he's their number one player on the, I was like, I wanna watch a movie about that guy. I'm rooting for the fucking miner. Me too. Who is up there being like,
Starting point is 00:27:05 I have only this, otherwise I go back to the mind. Oh my God, there were so many people in this movie I wanted full movies about. All of the minors, every single one of them. Everyone, none of the principal characters. The other character in this movie I want a full movie and then multiple sequels about is their head coach that woman That woman was great
Starting point is 00:27:28 Is it great to see a woman coaching this sport so many years ago? You love to see it Was she a good coach? I can't quite tell because nobody knows what she was coaching Well, I mean what place was she calling It seemed to me that the sport got more interesting or at least easier to follow once all hell broke loose. Like when that guy got smashed in the face, no, it was a steel ball, right? Or it seems like it.
Starting point is 00:27:57 But when he smashed it in his face, it kind of felt like a water balloon popped on his face. I think that was his face. Oh. I think it was sweat and teeth, and he was fucked up, that guy. But then when Chris Klein, on his first game, again, not sure, knocks on the wall to be like, hey, scoban,
Starting point is 00:28:18 start it back up, let's go. Like, I'm like, oh, I understand this game more now on some level, like the violent version of the game. I think I don't. I'd love to give a game of rollerball looks like I think that you have to you first start off. There's there's one sort of section you have to go through if you're on offense. That special rabbit hole you get out of that. It seems awkward as hell. You get out of that thing,
Starting point is 00:28:47 and then you have to go into the other team's area with the ball twice before you can score, which means throwing that steel ball against a gong. That explodes. No, BC, what I think it is is- That's it. That's the game. I think you have to go around twice, Then you can go through the rabbit hole. And then when you kind of pop out of the rabbit hole, that's what puts you in scoring position. Yeah, I throw it at the gong. I'm not leaving this theater until we know and have played at least one round successfully. I'm going to be honest, the stage is the size of a rink
Starting point is 00:29:25 as far as I can see. Yes, and we have two motorcycles backstage. Let's go. But you basically, the motorcyclists are the blockers. And the rollerbladers are the offense. But if you're, okay, so this was my problem with the game. If I am playing rollerball, one of the strategies that I would employ
Starting point is 00:29:47 is pretending to have the ball and skating around. But a quarterback sneak. All of them, yes, like a sneak. All of them when they have the ball are like, and just rollerblading around. Do they pass the ball? But I think that they do, and they also criticize Chris Klein
Starting point is 00:30:04 for being a ball hog, right? You're not passing or whatever. But I think they're doing that for the viewer at home because it's terrible strategy to be like, here I am. Here I go. Woo-hoo-hoo-hoo. You know, you should be, like, everybody should be pretending they have the ball.
Starting point is 00:30:20 You should be confusing the, you know. But I think the reason why they have to show it is because the same reason when he drinks the Fanta after After winning and show the label show the label and he shows label They got to hold up that ball because for whatever reason in 2002 television reception is real bad It's like looks like you're watching 3d movies without the glasses and I'm'm like, they're like, guys, you gotta hold up the ball, because it's basically static. I mean, why did TV go backwards? Because it... I'm assuming because this isn't, Paul.
Starting point is 00:30:56 I'm so sorry. North American cable. This... We're not even on fiber optic cable lines. But yet... We're not even in, optic cable lines. But yet... We're not even in the first six channels. So I couldn't understand that when our main bad guy was upset he wasn't in the first six channels. Yeah, we're watching channel 56.
Starting point is 00:31:17 Because, as everyone knows, back in 2002, you started watching channel two. Okay, okay. Got it. Everybody knows when you start watching TV, you start at two, then you go to three, and you're on three, and you go to four. It's such a funny concept. Like, you got to be in the first six. No one... This is like a world in which cable doesn't exist, but yet it's 2002.
Starting point is 00:31:44 And also a world in which when like you turn off your TV, when you turn it back on and automatically starts at the beginning of the channels. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. I also found it fascinating and I could spend the whole rest of the show just talking about the two rollerball games. Well, that's the whole movie, Jason. I'm so sorry, June, but you're wrong because there is a beat in between
Starting point is 00:32:08 where the movie is fast and furious, where they get out, so sports cars are splayed out, everybody gets to jump all over, street race, go through town. I laughed so hard. I literally, you had already left the hotel room. I was crying, laughing by myself
Starting point is 00:32:29 when they cut to night vision camera. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. I, I rewound. Oh my God. I rewound thinking my thing must be fucked up.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Why are we in night vision? Why are we in night vision? Why are we in Night Vision? Who's Night Vision are we in? Yes, we have not seen anyone put on Night Vision goggles. And it makes no sense to be like, we wanna shoot it night, we can't light it, so we'll just use Night Vision. Well, I feel like McTiernan.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Again, we haven't really stated this. This movie is directed by an action movie legend. Die Hard, Predator, Thomas Crown Affair, Die Hard with a Vengeance, last action hero, the hunt for Red October. I mean, this is- And he goes to prison for the wiretapping fraud of Anthony Pellecano.
Starting point is 00:33:21 For this movie! For this movie! I was gonna throw it to you to say, can you explain, I know a little bit because I did some research before the show, but can you explain? I can't explain exactly how it relates to this movie. I can, so basically,
Starting point is 00:33:36 and I'm gonna get into Night Vision as well. And just before this, Anthony Pellecano, notorious Hollywood fixer, there is a documentary about him called Sin Eater, the crimes of Anthony Pellecano. So good. Incredible documentary. Sorry, go ahead. So basically, a couple things happen with this movie.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Number one, this movie was like a much more like interesting sci-fi or futuristic film that's talking about how advertising the original. You mean the James Cahn one. But then this script that leaked on Aint It Cool News, we're talking in old school, right? So it leaked on Aint It Cool News, like, oh my God, the new rollerball script, it fixes all the problems of the first movie. It's way more interesting. It's about society and corporations and sports
Starting point is 00:34:27 and the way that they treat athletes. And John McTiernan comes in and is like, get rid of all that shit. I need more rollerball. And we don't need the political commentary. So he rips all that out of the script, makes this movie, screens it. In the screening, the test screening.
Starting point is 00:34:46 People are jeering like, boo, this sucks. And it doesn't- Somebody make a podcast about why this is so bad in the future. And so he's forced to reshoot and re-edit the movie, cut it out, take out all the violence. It was a much harder R and took out a lot of the nudity. And he was trying to mess it around. And so the issue was he was trying to blackmail one of the producers of this movie. So he contacted Anthony Pellican.
Starting point is 00:35:19 It was like, wiretap his phone. And if he says something shitty about the people who work at the studio then I can say to him Hey motherfucker, I heard you say that so now you got to work with me so I can get more money to make my movie like he was like trying to capture Evidence on this producer that the producer is saying one thing to him and one thing to the studio because they felt like or he felt like They weren't at they were at odds about what the movie should be. So the FBI calls him and goes, Hey, did you ever ask Anthony Pellecano to wiretap somebody? He's like, No.
Starting point is 00:35:55 As a matter of fact, we've, I didn't even know he had that capability. And they go, Well, here's a tape of you saying, can you wiretap somebody? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, then I did it. And he goes to jail. Yeah? Oh, he goes to jail? Yes. Wow. For this movie because he was trying to get...
Starting point is 00:36:14 Can you imagine? Can you imagine going to jail? How much did time for this? Trying to protect your cut of rollerball. Think about that for a sec. You may die hard. He went to jail for a year. That's a long time. A year.
Starting point is 00:36:40 And the reason why he went for such a long time? He's probably in his 60s at that point. The judge said, you think you're above the law, you have shown no remorse, you've lived a privileged life, and you simply want to continue that. He's like, sir, I did not direct above the law. And he went to, he went to Yankton, South Dakota to serve in a white collar, basically white collar criminals. But it's, all right, so to get to Night Vision in the reshooting of this movie, one of the issues was this whole sequence was way too dark and they didn't have money to go reshoot
Starting point is 00:37:22 it. So they just put... Night vision? Oh. They just put night vision over it. I'll say this, I'll say this, because it was an insane choice. And that your explanation makes it double insane.
Starting point is 00:37:41 But as I was watching it, I was like, this is kind of cool. It's weird because it's as if the filmmakers became a documentary. That's what it felt like. So now there's a documentarian behind the camera filming this situation. It's a mockumentary. And then we kill one of the three main characters, easily the most charismatic character in the LL Cool J. LL Cool J. Are you sure he's dead?
Starting point is 00:38:15 What do you mean? So this was a point I might have gotten up during this sequence to get a glass of water. So I'm suddenly, I thought there was like a post-credits scene that I had missed. Oh no, he's for sure dead. He's for sure dead. Yeah, the bad guy's got a sniper. Okay, that's unfortunate. He makes the jump though.
Starting point is 00:38:38 He does make the jump. He's about to get to the gate to enter safe space. The beautiful jump. And the guy's like pow, and the bike wipes out. But again, because it's a night vision, you can't see much. You don't even get a moment with a main character's death. It's from a distance and to your point. That's why I think I just missed it.
Starting point is 00:39:01 He blew up. It's like watching footage of war. It's like, oh yeah. He blew up. It's like watching like footage of like war. It's like, oh yeah, something blew up there cause it's all white now. It's like, that's what his death was like. Yeah. I guess. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:39:14 We like getting closer. So then honestly, I choose to believe he's still alive and well. Well, here's the thing. That's my choice. Here's the thing. They wipe out. They wipe out on the bike.
Starting point is 00:39:23 They're close to the bridge. The bridge is going up and they're fighting about who should get on the bike, they wipe out. They wipe out on the bike, they're close to the bridge, the bridge is going up and they're fighting about who should get on the bike and who should live. And Chris Klein says, you go, you've got a family, you've got kids, get out there, go to the embassy, get them to come get me, blah, blah, blah. I just was like, save LL Cool J, kill Chris Klein. So that the movie becomes interesting.
Starting point is 00:39:49 But is the premise of this movie, or is the plot of this movie, this league is corrupt? Because it would be one thing if you go in and it looks like the NBA, right? You'd be like, oh shit, it is corrupt. But this looks like backyard wrestling. And he's like, I can't believe it. I can't believe this fucking dungeon that I'm in. There's weird money changing hands. It's like everything is bad is going on. The minute I arrive at Rollerball HQ,
Starting point is 00:40:23 if I'm Chris Klein and I see that Jean Reneau is the head of this organization, I'm like, oh no, there's a villain in charge of here. Absolutely. As soon as I see a jester hat come out, I'm asking some major questions. Oh yeah, and the fact that Chris Klein goes to him and is like, hey, I think someone cut this helmet strap.
Starting point is 00:40:45 I'm like, dude, are you a fucking moron? If we want to talk about fighting, this movie has a moment in it that I told you, I was watching on 1.25 speed, which just a little faster. I gotta remember. And just a little faster. I gotta remember. And just a little faster. That when Chris Klein does fight Jean Reneau at the end, I want to get to all that. They jump cut the fight scene and I go, oh, clearly 1.25 speed has fucked up the fight.
Starting point is 00:41:19 I went back to normal speed. No. Throughout the movie there's weird jumpy editing, I will say. Well, that is primarily. That scene that we just watched. Primarily because they cut out plot points for the reshoots. So they couldn't afford to do a lot of reshoots because they ran out of money.
Starting point is 00:41:36 The budget was 70 million. And. Whoa, no. 70 million. Whoa, that's twice as much money as the movie we saw last night, The King's Daughter, with shot at Versailles. This was shot in a warehouse in Calgary. This, so 70 million.
Starting point is 00:41:58 So they just cut out scenes. So there's like a moment in the movie where you will watch like somebody talking to Chris Klein, like, I want to tell you something right now. Cut. All right, so get out there and have a moment in the movie where you will watch like somebody talking to Chris Klein like I want to tell you something right now Cut all right, so get out there and have a great game. It's like whoa wait like it like it's very bizarre Constantly so much so that the first couple of times I rewind again I rewind thinking I'm there must have been I must have hit a button or so And no, I obviously I didn't and then I was like oh This is just all chopped up and it's a fucking
Starting point is 00:42:28 And the fight scene though. I don't know why you need to jump cut a fight scene. It's like either it looked so bad Yeah, like the Chris Cline Punching it's like slow motion First of all you have Chris Klein who has, who does not have a weapon, against multiple Russian men who have guns. Well, June, he's got a stool. We all know a stool can take a shotgun blast. Back in medieval times, most people, knights used stools.
Starting point is 00:43:05 One of the funniest shots to me was when we were preparing for the second game of the movie. And there was a shot of the team, the red, what are they called? The horsemen. The firecrackers? The horsemen? The red firecrackers. By the way, why? When the firecrackers come out of the locker room, it's set up with the music and everything. Like, where this is supposed to be our, like, hero shot of them coming
Starting point is 00:43:31 out to really win the day. And then I realized they're all on rollerblades. Because something about the cadence of their walk, I was like, this is weird. This is strange. And then I realized they're rolling out there. And it really revealed how dumb this movie is and how dumb they all are to even try to like, create this sequence when they're all just rolling out there. It's a tough, it's a tough, it's a tough sell. To face a team that appears to have in the center of it, pulling out there. It's a tough, it's a tough, it's a tough sell. To face a team that appears to have in the center of it
Starting point is 00:44:10 a character based on the Knights of St. Ney in the, Oh yeah. In the Monty Python movie, like with a big Knights thing on, I couldn't make heads or tails out of any. Well, that's like the wrestling part of it because of like, what's regulation here? You would think they would have a regulation helmet,
Starting point is 00:44:28 but like some people's faces are kind of out. Some people are like, like Rebecca Romain is like fully, like she's in a full mask, like which I would do if I was in row. By the way, and I love that, the visual of that. There are a couple of people who have big, great masks that I thought I wanted so much more of that, so much more interest in the design elements
Starting point is 00:44:49 and the stuff that seemed really make it the future then. I don't know, it just, yeah. Do people think it was the future? Okay, thank you. Well, let's not be so judgemental. But let's be sure, Paul, let's be sure. All right, I just wanna ask, I just to... Okay, sure, sure, sure. But some of you out there agree with me. Sure.
Starting point is 00:45:08 I feel like the first one has that future element of it, because I feel like it's part of that clutch of movies, like Logan's Run, and all those movies that were like, the future's gonna be totally fucked. And this was... And of course, but the savior is James. God He's got shoulders, baby. I I do love the end of this movie because also we talked about losing we've talked about hockey We've talked about rollerblading and then Chris Klein works a shotgun like a fucking pro like like this
Starting point is 00:45:43 Like a fucking pro like like this is a guy broken shotguns like oh yeah bam like He knows how to shoot a fucking gun like not even a gun Like why do they use a fucking the shotgun like as a stick and you know throw an ashtray at someone's head. Like, give me a hockey moment. Well, there's also a moment where he... He's somebody who is it that pulls a gun on somebody, and he fully disarms the per... He seems to have Jason Bourne-level skills, but doesn't ever have the moment a la Jason Bourne, where he's like, how do I know how to do this?
Starting point is 00:46:20 We've never seen him train for anything, but he's like, bam, bam, bam, bam, now I've got your gun. And I was like, what, how? Let me ask you a question. In the beginning when they're all chanting, John-a-tun, John-a-tun, John-a-tun. At that point, is that his first game? Oh, that's not the first.
Starting point is 00:46:42 I thought it was his first game. I thought so too, but apparently not. He's like, I guess he's the star, he's the number one not the best. I thought it was his first game. I thought so too, but apparently not. He's the number one or whatever. I mean, we really cut into that hard. It's like, hey, join me. Never. And by the way, if you're being chased by the cops for street losing, take off your pads.
Starting point is 00:47:00 He looks like there he is, the guy in the knee pads. How does LL Cool J find him? LL Cool J's driving around in a Porsche, opens the doors like, get in! LL Cool J just out for a morning drive in San Francisco. Chris Klein, San Francisco native. My guy, what are you doing? Get in. Chris Klein, San Francisco native. My guy, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:47:26 Get in. Chris Klein. Come play rollerball in Kazakhstan. Come fucking in, in a hot sauna. Okay, and when Paul goes out there, I want to hear from people who have fucked in a hot sauna. No, I don't think so. Oh. With a female condom.
Starting point is 00:47:44 Ken? Here's the thing. What I love about Chris Klein is like, he isn't fun delivers. Like, next time, can we do this in a bed? Like, it's like, right? You know, with like sheets and stuff? Yeah, yeah, guys, we know what a bed is. I was so confused in that post-Quadal scene
Starting point is 00:48:04 in the hot sauna. Why? What she says, Rebecca's like, well, you know, I spoke to one of the TV guys and they showed me that it was a fixed moment and they fixed the play. And then we don't ever get to see where that TV computer is, but it seems like it's in the sauna. I agree. I agree. It's not, but I agree.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Yeah, there's a... It feels like she just walks to another wall. Yeah. And she's like... She minority reports it. Exactly. Enhance. Enhance. And by the way... Add water to hot rocks.
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Starting point is 00:49:03 And by the way, And by the way, And by the Gorgeous people! What's up, balcony? What's up, balcony? There they are. I'm out here. I'm here in Kazakhstan with all my rollerblading, or my roller-balling pals. What's your name? Ben.
Starting point is 00:49:18 If there was a better title for this movie, what would you maybe give it? I'm putting you on the spot, but... Chris Klein would kill for Good Sportsmanship. I like it. Good Sportsmanship? Question, Mark? Okay, what's your, um, question? Can we talk about the boyoyoying sound effects?
Starting point is 00:49:36 Yes! Yes! I figure, I know what it is, but yes, let's talk about it, because I lost my mind. It is, like it felt like the editor was mad at the director, it's like, I believe what it is, is them riding the bike through metal wire, and the metal wire breaking causes that sound
Starting point is 00:50:03 to actually kind of happen. And so I was like, oh, but did they juice it up because it's so forward in the mix? Then I was like, I can't even barely see that you're driving through a fence in night vision. And do you think you're helping me understand by adding this sound? Because if I wanted to enjoy the movie more,
Starting point is 00:50:25 add this sound, add Looney Tunes sounds throughout. Let when Chris Klein sees Rebecca Romain, he should be like, ah-ooh-gah, ah-ooh-gah. I will say, I will say when the big man gets hurt and gets that ball smashed into his face, I thought the birds around his head was very tasteful. And the big lump.
Starting point is 00:50:48 All right, so I'm here with somebody, a two-timer, someone seen last night's show and tonight's show. Amazing. Thank you for coming back. That's right. That's right. Wait, do they ask, do you recognize them? Yeah, I do, Jason, because I make eye contact with every member of the audience.
Starting point is 00:51:05 Impressive. I'm impressed. Now, what is your name and your question? My name is Caroline. My question is, after a peruse through Wikipedia, it says it takes place in 2005. Yes! Fuck you!
Starting point is 00:51:24 Fuck you! Fuck you! Wait, so they placed this movie like three years in the future? So my question about that is, so the original came out in the 70s, takes place in 2018, what is the point of jumping it three years if you're trying to make a dystopian future claim? And anyway, just keep it the same year. I mean, I guess a lot can happen in three years. I have a feeling it was directly related to the budget,
Starting point is 00:51:55 although the budget was enough to afford. But also, if I'm saying, I think they couldn't set it too far into the future because they wanted to have slipknot and Rap rock and they wanted the vibe to be all of that Contemporary what was popular well? They didn't want to wreck the suspension of disbelief like oh pink isn't that old in the future? Like we can't keep her that young because then it's been all that money on aging her up with makeup Can I ask you a question Paul and forgive me if you don't know the answer, but one of these nerds will.
Starting point is 00:52:27 When this movie is made, you said 2002, had any Fast and Furious come out yet? One? Yes. Well, this is the time of XXX. This is the time of the stream sports in movies. Like, we were like, yes, more Dan Cortez, more rockin' job. That's what it feels like.
Starting point is 00:52:46 Let's do it. It feels like they were trying to make this an extreme sport version of whatever the fuck, of roller derby nonsense and make it extreme, but then also with the car racing and all the fucking nonsense. They felt like all amped up like that kind of garbage. I do think, you know, there's something interesting with the stakes of this sport like knowing and they say it a few times in the movie if you enter that rink like you might be paralyzed for sure. You know like there's such a risk of spinal injury that they set up.
Starting point is 00:53:20 But it's not like it's a kumite. It's not like it's a, you know, a certain death. Like, not at all. Either submit or die or whatever. This is a sport. You might have a serious spinal injury. Yeah. But isn't that football? Like, didn't you expect, didn't you expect to look up in the boxes where John Renault was and Taylor Swift would be up there? Because she's dating Jonathan Cross now? And she's like... Jonathan. Jonathan. Jonathan.
Starting point is 00:53:50 And then two years from now, she puts out a song about Jonathan. Oh. Oh, my gosh. You wore so many pads. You're right. Alvin DeLorm. You wore so many pads that kept me away from you. Your helmet was so thick. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:10 I love that you're writing lyrics from the audience. Look, I mean, she's a wordsmith. I'm trying to figure out the best. I couldn't have my heart. I couldn't put an armadillo around my heart. You wrote that. Yeah, there's something there. There's an invisible motorcycle that kept
Starting point is 00:54:25 you running defense while I was trying to get offense. Yeah. Anyway, we'll figure it out. You skated into my heart. Your love is a rabbit hole. Here's what I lost my lover. I would like for a series of Taylor Swift themed or influenced rollerball second opinions, not I guess tonight or in the future or... Yes, when this comes out, we're gonna throw down the gauntlet. On last looks, please send us... That's what I mean. If Taylor Swift was dating Jonathan and they broke up, what would that song be?
Starting point is 00:55:04 And I don't think that Taylor and Travis are going to break up. I feel like they're in it for the long term. Alright, so... I agree. Alright. Wait, you both think they're in it for the long term? Paul and I love their love. I love it.
Starting point is 00:55:17 We are 90% behind them. And by the way, we love it. We love it. We love it. Here's the thing. And I love it. I love it. We love it. Here's the thing. And I love it. I love it.
Starting point is 00:55:27 I know a lot more about Taylor Swift lately, and I'll say this, her last relationship was six plus years. So she's, you know, she's capable of that. A long relationship. I'm excited. I'm thrilled. Hopefully it lasts until... It's given us a real boost.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Yeah, we need it. Yep. All right. Your name and your it. Yep. All right. Your name and your question. Hi, my name is Molly. And my question is, Chris Klein never hooks his helmet. Thank you, Molly. His helmet is always hanging there.
Starting point is 00:55:58 But everybody's else's helmet flies off and has mayhem. And his helmet always stays on. And it's never clipped. It's never clipped. We have two people at the same time. You both stand up. Share the mic. Share the mic because you both have the same question.
Starting point is 00:56:13 In the first rollerball game, Chris Clyde is very upset that the man is smashed in the face and his helmet is cut, yet he is not strapping his helmet on. Yeah. Why? I don't understand. Hey Rhode Island, we know. If you were...
Starting point is 00:56:34 We said why. Paul? Paul walk away, they're coming in hot. We're blaming you. Paul, be careful out there. We didn't put it on, we didn't make it. Why are you so mad at us? We agreed to mine notes too.
Starting point is 00:56:50 Why doesn't he clip his helmet? Your name and your question. My name is Britt. Is LL Cool J an accountant? Yes. Great question. Yes, he is. That's one of the sort of running storylines, which is that he could've, he's misunderstood.
Starting point is 00:57:10 Someone asks if his mom is a crack whore, she says he's a pediatrician. He says she's a pediatrician. So that is something, it's not developed enough to make anything of it, but it seems that there's something there. By the way, LL Cool J says like, hey, you think I could fuck girls being an accountant?
Starting point is 00:57:27 But then we reveal later he's got a wife and kids. Yeah, yeah. Tough, a tough. Listen, what happens at Rollerball stays at Rollerball. You know what I mean? But now I am in the balcony with my balcony monsters. All right, your name and your question. My name is Jonathan, actually.
Starting point is 00:57:46 Whoa! Jonathan! Jonathan! Jonathan! Jonathan! Okay, and your question. Speaking of the ratings, do you mean the global instant ratings,
Starting point is 00:57:59 or what is it called? Yeah, something instant. The global instant ratings? Instant! We don't have that now. Which also, because the movie took place in the future. That was my question. What form of rating system just automatically goes up?
Starting point is 00:58:14 What is the technology there? How quick is that computation? It's technology that could only exist in 2005. I will say this. The one thing that I am so amazed at, and maybe I'm speaking out of school, but there was a Heather Graham show, an hour-long show, and the ratings are so bad that it was canceled after the first commercial break. Don't look it up, but I'm pretty sure I'm not lying.
Starting point is 00:58:41 But yeah, I think they can get some ratings right away. They can see who turned off, but it seems like the ratings are pretty high. Why does he need that North American contract? I mean, unless that's low ratings, but a 20 share is pretty high. I was going to say they've got 19, they've got 20, they're climbing up. I mean, that is, by the end of it, they're getting into like mash numbers. It is interesting that at one point it does seem like hockey is sort of being introduced where there's like some sort of a disc or a stick becomes a weapon.
Starting point is 00:59:12 At the very end when things get really chaotic. That item they had, it seemed like it was like sharpened and it was like a smashing thing or but I couldn't tell what was it itself. No idea. Oh, look, there was a lot of plastic. It's not normally a part of rollerball, right? It's always there. Wow. By the way, I feel like that would be a real advantage.
Starting point is 00:59:38 To have a lot of plastic would be a real advantage. I know. Well, I mean, I think the motorcycle is a pretty big advantage, too. Yeah. When you are just rollerblading around. Something about professional hockey that always makes me laugh. Is that penalty box? Fox in the box. And there is a Fox in the box in this movie, but I'm like, that's real in real life in a professional sport. Occasionally, people are put in a penalty box. A timeout.
Starting point is 01:00:05 And have to sit there and watch the rest of the game. Grown men are given a timeout. Grown men, and they don't get to sit with the rest of their teammates. I don't know why. They have to sit in a special little box. And every time I see, we went to a rangers game a few years ago, and it just makes me laugh so hard to see them sitting there and waiting till they can get out of that box. Oh god it's funny. We need more penalty boxes. I think adults being put in time out in a public way is great. So funny.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Yes. So funny. Absolutely. There should be public penalty boxes. To just sit and watch. You make an inappropriate comment at work, Zed penalty box. I want a penalty box in this theater. Anytime someone does something a little wrong, brrr. They gotta go sit there. Sit in the box.
Starting point is 01:00:55 Two minutes, think about it. We all need a break. And then I like when they then cut to the penalty box. And it's like, and in the shame box. He's so funny. Oh my God. Obviously, we have issues with this movie, but there are people out there that think this movie is perfect.
Starting point is 01:01:10 They think that Rollerball is a great movie. So now it's time to hear from them. It is now time for second opinions. My name is Francis. I'm going to Central Asia. I'm gonna play this crazy game. I just wanna play hockey, but I need a quick payday. Rollerball is a bloody hobby. You might call me insane, but I've got a blank face, baby.
Starting point is 01:01:41 And Chris Klein's my name. Yeah! face baby and Chris Clines my name Rollerball on Amazon has It's over black it out the show's done. That's it. Wow. Wow. Rollerball on Amazon has 498 reviews 69% are five stars. Come on. Come on. Averaging 69. Providence is like, yeah. The writer of this review is named Jeff, but it's J-E-F-7. That's how he spells it.
Starting point is 01:02:32 Jeff. All right, so here we go. This is written in 2016, so recently-ish, in conjunction to this movie. I like this movie due to the actors. LL, Chris, Raman Stavos. I may have gotten her name wrong.
Starting point is 01:02:56 Can I just... Raman Stavos. Raman Stavos? Raman Stavos. Raman Stavos. Raman Stavos. You're saying Adele Dazeen? LL, Chris and Raman Stavos. Okay, that's the T-shirt.
Starting point is 01:03:15 LL and Chris and Raman Stavos. It's pretty good. Raman Stavos sounds, I will say, delicious. Although I'm pretty hungry. Greek Chinese. Is there late night food in Providence? That's good to hear. I'm hearing yes.
Starting point is 01:03:39 Oh man, all right. LL, Chris and Ramen Stavos. I may have gotten her name wrong. The players are the good guys while the owners see them as nothing more than dirt. Your knee hurts, you're traded or vanished. Very popular, you're dead. If you will not conform. This movie is about conformity or banishment
Starting point is 01:04:05 Of course the choice you make is not necessarily yours Good entertainment value just my opinion five stars The title take that Adani writes top ten movie even if it's just for the soundtrack One of my favorite movies because of the soundtrack. This is a great film if you haven't seen it you need to. If you see it on TV you'll need to get it here. The cutscenes are worth it. You got to see the whole thing and you need to see it again just for the soundtrack. Well, get ready because this reviewer's name is,
Starting point is 01:04:50 I am not a professional credit and wouldn't want to be one. That's the name of the reviewer. I am not a professional credit and wouldn't want to be one. Do you think that's supposed to be critic? I think so, and you'll see more in a second. By the way, I apologize for jumping because that seems like where it's going. The title is A Movies or B Movies or TV Show. My criteria for movies or TVs are, did it entertain me?
Starting point is 01:05:27 Yes or no? That's the title of the review. The review. Yes, this movie entertained me. Five stars. Now, I often don't do this, but we go to first opinions, and I bring this up for a reason. Kay Butterfield writes, title, nudity review. This is rated PG-13, but there is full-on nudity. We turned it off and we did not finish watching it.
Starting point is 01:06:10 One star. So then, we researched a little bit more. Molly Reynolds went and researched it a little bit more, and we found this, Jason. This is for you, a review of Bosch by the same person. Let's go! Also, one star. Language is ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:06:35 Cannot believe that such harsh language is used. It is not real. It was very offended. I was very offended by the amount and types of language used. I love the books and I know he's got crusty old cop, but this is ridiculous. I will not watch any more episodes. I couldn't even finish the first one. One star for Bosch. Bosh. What the fool? That's absurd. Bosh's language, that's, I vehemently disagree with that review.
Starting point is 01:07:13 And with the previous review, because one of my favorite things was all the boobs in the movie. Give me more boobs. All the time boobs in the movie, please. Especially when you're working out, where they naturally are just out. I...
Starting point is 01:07:33 Wait, can I just say one more thing? Just because boobs reminded me of it and I had it in my notes. It always makes me laugh so hard. And out of curiosity, you didn't happen to pull any of the footage from the nightclub party, dance club they go to. Okay, so after the first roller ball game, they jump in fast and furious cars, they race through
Starting point is 01:07:52 the streets, they go to a nightclub and the nightclub is full on movie nonsense nightclub. There's nude people, there's craziness, there's chaos, blah, blah, blah, and thumping music. And I was like, it always makes me laugh to remember that in order to shoot this scene, it was dead silence. Dead dozens and dozens of naked people, people partying. And in the movie, it's like terrible dance music. But day of, it was just LL and Chris kind talking and silence.
Starting point is 01:08:28 It is the funniest thing. When you ever have to shoot those scenes, it's so eerie because everyone's like. Because it's like, okay, and background and action and everybody's. And then you're like, I don't know, where are we going? Oh, bad, bad, bad, bad? And everybody has to do pantomime, like, nonsense. Like, think about that in a John Wick movie when it goes to those cool parties.
Starting point is 01:08:54 It's like, silent. All right, well, I guess the question is this, would you recommend this movie? I'm going to say this. I'm going to recommend the James Kahn Roller Ball. Okay. If you're gonna watch a rollerball, watch that rollerball. Okay. Now, watch this rollerball if you really wanna go like out of your mind, but that's my rollerball.
Starting point is 01:09:22 Yeah, I have to say, after watching this rollerball, I am interested in the original rollerball. Well, it's like a crazy. Even interest. Yeah, so I guess that's something. The fact that I've now seen two rollerballs is depressing. I will talk about it in therapy this week. Yeah, this one was a real headscrapper. Although I will say it went
Starting point is 01:09:47 again. This is day two of this fall tour. This fall has been made tour. So yeah, anybody coming to every show? Okay. All right. Great. Awesome. That's a no. Got it. Message received. But it's day two. So as this as this on, we will become more and more mentally drained. And so I'm starting to feel that happen already with this movie where I'm like, I think it went down easily for me. I did watch it in real speed. And I can report that it's watchable. Well, I would argue it's because there's limited plot.
Starting point is 01:10:29 Three giant rollerball scenes, which I would say of the hour and 38 minutes, accounts for about an hour. I was going to say 40 to 50 minutes. But here's what I'm going to say to echo your point and kind of really hit it on the head, which is, imagine if this movie hadn't been directed by John McChirnan, like a master of action. All of those action scenes, you still kind of know what's going on. It's well directed. It looks good in that sense.
Starting point is 01:10:58 You kind of know who you're meant to be following, who's being bad to who. All the geography of it lines up. Imagine if it was directed so poorly that you were like What the fuck is who is what what is up? Yes? And again again I laughed so hard when the night vision came on I can't express the night vision is And it was just really it was quite funny. I'm gonna say you could take a pass, but let's go to the audience Would you recommend it audience? That's a resounding no I guess I should do it like this who would recommend it who
Starting point is 01:11:30 would not recommend it pretty much just the the recommends are like five dudes in the front row who are like yeah give it up for Jason Van Zookis, Judea and Ramio, I am Paul Shearer, Beth Thomas in the back. Thank you so much for coming on The Third Day. We love you. Good night. Eat shit, Rhode Island. That's the show. What a great show.
Starting point is 01:11:57 Thank you to the staff at the Vets, our amazing tour manager, Beth Thomas, and all of you in Providence who made it such a great time. People, if you want to see us on the road, you can February 3rd in San Francisco as we are doing Samurai Cop. That's right. We've never done it and we're doing it for the first time in San Francisco. Tickets are still available February 3rd. Then we're going to be heading across the pond to London, Glasgow, Belfast and Dublin from March 28th to April 3rd.
Starting point is 01:12:26 London is seats away from being sold out. Both shows, Dublin is sold out. So get your tickets for Glasgow and Belfast ASAP. And just so you know, all of this you can find on HDTGM.com. And while you're there, why don't you pre-order my book, Joyful Recollections of Trauma? It is a collection of stories from my childhood that you might have heard on how did this get made, but brand new ones, truly brand new ones. I love this book. You can get it as an e-book, you can get it as an audiobook, which I will be narrating.
Starting point is 01:12:58 And if you pre-order it, it really, really helps me. And I'm going to tell you this much. Keep your receipt because pre-orderers are going to get something very cool. Now, if you want to get your own RollerBall live show shirt, you can just go to tpublic.com slash stores slash hdtgm and you can get our shirt that says RollerBall. Rollerbald is the shirt. I love it. It's a great sticker. Get on it.
Starting point is 01:13:28 And if you have any corrections and or omissions for this episode, I wanna know about it, go to our discord at discord.gg slash HDTGM or leave me a voicemail at 619-PAUL-ASK that's 619-Paul ask. Then make sure you tune into next week to hear our last looks, follow up episode and hear me respond to your messages. Plus Jason and I, we're going to have our live chat or a pre recorded chat with
Starting point is 01:13:53 Moshe Kasser. And as always, we will announce our next movie. I can't wait. You can always find us online at HDTGM.com. And if you love the show, please tell your friends and write a review, because it really does help. But really, word of mouth is the best way to get the word out.
Starting point is 01:14:12 And last but not least, I have to say thank you to all of our listeners who support this show every week and our entire behind the scenes team who keep this show running. I'm talking about our producers, Scott Sonny, our movie picking producer Averill Halley our associate producer Just as narrows and our engineers Casey Hulford and Rich Garcia. That's all I got see you next week on last looks bye for now

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