How Did This Get Made? - Speed 2: Cruise Contral w/ Scott Aukerman (HDTGM Matinee)

Episode Date: June 24, 2025

Are you listening to this podcast on a computer? If so, you could be a villain in this week’s film, Speed 2: Cruise Control! Comedy Bang Bang’s Scott Aukerman joins Paul, Jason, and June to lament... the absence of Keanu Reeves and ask the age-old question, “Why weren’t Willem Dafoe’s leeches featured more in this film?!” (Originally Released 06/05/2012) • Go to hdtgm.com for tour dates, merch, FAQs, and more• Have a Last Looks correction or omission? Call 619-PAULASK to leave us a voicemail!• Submit your Last Looks theme song to us here• Join the HDTGM conversation on Discord: discord.gg/hdtgm• Buy merch at howdidthisgetmade.dashery.com/• Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of Trauma• Shop our new hat collection at podswag.com• Paul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheer• Paul’s YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheer• Follow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer• Subscribe to Enter The Dark Web w/ Paul & Rob Huebel: youtube.com/@enterthedarkweb• Listen to Unspooled with Paul & Amy Nicholson: unspooledpodcast.com• Listen to The Deep Dive with June & Jessica St. Clair: thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcast• Instagram: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & @junediane• Twitter: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & msjunediane  • Jason is not on social media• Episode transcripts available at how-did-this-get-made.simplecast.com/episodesGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Imagine speed without the bus, without Keanu Reeves, without the tension, and without the story. We saw Speed 2 Cruise Control, so you know what that means. How did this get made? Let's follow in the mediocrity of subpar art. Perhaps we'll find the answer to the question, how did this get made? Hello, people of Earth, and welcome to How Did This Get Made? But let's just get right into it. I am joined, as always, by June Diane Rayfield and Jason Manzoukas.
Starting point is 00:00:38 How are you guys? Good. Pretty good. We all are in studio here. Look at that. For the first time in a while. This is exciting. Also joining us today is the host of Comedy Bang Bang. He has a brand new show coming out on IFC every Friday night.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Please welcome Scott Aukerman. Oh, you sound like you were about to say more. Scott Aukerman, who is my best friend. According to New York Times, the den mother of comedy. Ha ha ha. Den mother. Den, really? That's very sweet mother of comedy. Ha ha ha. Den mother. Den really? Very sweet.
Starting point is 00:01:07 Fucking Zach Galvin Agus. That's his quote. He knows I'm a man. Anyway, so speech. You do have substantial tits. Thank you. You're sucking on them. Nourishment.
Starting point is 00:01:21 All right, so we decided. And we're off. We decided what better way to kick off our so bad they're good summer movie blockbusters with Speed 2 Cruise Control, the ill conceived sequel to Speed, a movie that could not have a sequel really. It ended perfectly. What they did was they took the side character, Sandra Bullock, and made her front and center. Now Sandra Bullock doesn't do anything in speed. Hang on, excuse me.
Starting point is 00:01:54 She just drives the bus. She drives the bus. You're miming doing a steering wheel. May I point out she also presses her foot down upon the accelerator. You are right. You are right. So she is now the lead of this movie, and clearly this movie was written for Keanu Reeves.
Starting point is 00:02:09 I have to interject, it was not written at all. If you do some research, they did not have a script. Well basically- Is that right? What? What are you saying? Graham Yost, the guy who wrote the first speed movie, had a great idea for a sequel, because the director, Jan de Bont, wanted to do something with a boat,
Starting point is 00:02:24 and he had this idea- He had a dream, by the way. Jan de Bont, wanted to do something with a boat, and he had this idea. He had a dream, by the way. Well, this is, yeah, yeah. This should be titled Based Upon a Nightmare by Jan de Bont. A dream of two large ships slowly moving toward each other? He had a nightmare where a boat crashed into something, and he woke up and said, that is the sequel. That is really and truthfully what happened.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Yes, come on. So basically, the writer Gramm Yoast was kicked off the project in Instead they went with yon the bonds dream of a boat crashing into land And it the movie feels exactly like a foreign person's dream about a boat crashing into land It feels like a dream where for some reason, you know how when you're dreaming about someone you know, they'll say goodbye and turn into someone else. And it feels like that's what happened in his dream is Keanu Reeves was like, oh, excuse me,
Starting point is 00:03:13 and just changed into Jason Patrick for no reason. And then we're off and we're on this boat with him. And so they try to write out basically Keanu Reeves in the first scene. And it's so sloppy there's nothing I've never seen a movie more sloppy with exposition ever which it says a lot for what we do yes it's so like yeah yeah yeah it's like she literally basically says that relationships with daredevils never
Starting point is 00:03:40 work out didn't work out for like six months and then she jettisoned him or something like they broke up after six months and then she jettisoned him or something? Is that what she said? They broke up after six months. Oh, because he gave her mace and she thought it was perfume. And wound up in the hospital. Yeah. Which really, I don't know what kind of perfume looks like a can of mace. Although that's a great idea and if you're in, I'm in.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Yeah, let's do it. You could get $50,000. I'm actually surprised later in the movie when she finds that grenade, she didn't think it was perfume. Boom! I also love the first scene in the movie, they bring back a character from the first movie, like the police chief.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Yeah, Joe Morton. Joe Morton. Which, by the way, she does not, we should point out, she does not know that her boyfriend, Jason Patrick, is a daredevil cop. No, she thinks he's a... Well, she knows he's a cop. She knowsdevil cop. No she thinks he's a... Well she knows he's a cop. She knows he's a cop but thinks he's a bike cop on the beach.
Starting point is 00:04:30 But then what is even more infuriating she does not know that not only is he a cop but works with the exact same cop who got her off that bus in the first movie. And her... yes. She doesn't want to date daredevils but she is dating a daredevil. Well, and it's a very strange set up for a female. Because they need to basically go. Well, yeah, but it's a strange thing to set up a female character who does not,
Starting point is 00:04:51 who actively doesn't want a man who's a hero. Yeah. Who saves lives, like actively is looking for not that. Considering what type of hero Jason Patrick actually is in this movie, she should not want that. Basically, it basically starts off with two parallel scenes. Joe Morton is leading a special squat team. A squat.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Squat team. Squat team. Yeah, squat team. Yeah, squat team. They are leading a squat team. I don't even know what they're trying to bust. Oh, I know what it is. It's a laundry truck.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Ice cream man? It's an ice cream truck full of stolen computers. Because it's 1993. It is so uninteresting. They bring out a SWAT team for one truck of stolen computers, which all fall out of the back of the truck. They all are flying out. And meanwhile, Jason Patrick is just chasing it on a motorcycle.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Meanwhile, Sandra Bullock is taking her driver's test with Tim Conway and it's very comical. In like an SUV convertible. No, she's in a Volkswagen Thing. It's an old like, I actually love that car. Is that the actual title? It's a Volkswagen Thing. There is a car called a Thing?
Starting point is 00:05:58 It's from like the 70s or earlier. It's like an old, old Volkswagen. It's called The Thing. What? Yeah. Wow, okay. so in this first thing It made I like the thing here. We have to do an episode of how did this get made? Okay, then I also I also want to do a PT Cruiser then I cannot for the life of me figure that disaster out
Starting point is 00:06:22 They only are sold to rental car agencies. I think so. MCZ Top. Yeah, they're not being made anymore. Because you tried to buy one? Yeah. Again, the clunkiness of this first scene, her driver's test intersects with the SWAT team, and that's how she finds out.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Well, she also, I mean, people, she's driving so crazily, people were killed during that. Oh yeah, oh, yeah easily, okay So there's a huge death toll body count if you see actually happens There's a huge death toll and there's huge there are deaths that occur due to comedic moments There are like like her comedic bad drivers exam must have led to five deaths And and to follow that up then there are comedic moments that follow deaths. Yes. So there are deaths and then punchlines immediately after.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Like there are people that get sucked into the propellers, right? When they're on the lifeboat, lifeboat rescue, there are people, two people fall out of the boat, get sucked into the propellers and she's like, lower the gangplank. And then she's like, can you get these people out of here? This is supposed to be a vacation! Yes, a vacation. So basically she finds out that her boyfriend's a part of the suicide squad of the police force. Policemen who are willing to commit suicide in pursuit of stolen computers.
Starting point is 00:07:42 We've got to get those computers. My life is irrelevant. I also do love that Joe Morton's first line of the movie is like, you know, the character that the replacement Keanu Reeves is Alex. He goes, all right Alex, no stunts and no wrecks. Like that's what he leads it off with. Meanwhile, Alex is on his motorcycle, driving primarily on one wheel. Yes.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Primarily in a wheelie form. No reason why he needed to be driving like that the entire time. So she finds out that she's dating Keanu Reeves, because the movie has to continue and they weren't gonna rewrite it too much. Which by the way, I don't know if you've ever watched
Starting point is 00:08:20 Alien 2 or Aliens, right? Yes. Back to back with Alien 3rd to the third power? No, I did not see it to the third power. I watched a marathon. Alien cubed? I watched a marathon of all four movies on TV once, but when the beginning.
Starting point is 00:08:32 Stop bragging. Were you having a nervous breakdown? You're bragging. I grew a super long beard, I ate my fingernails. But watching, you watch all of the second Aliens movie and for the entire movie she is trying to save the little kid, right? Newt. Newt.
Starting point is 00:08:52 She's trying to save Newt, she's finally successful, she escapes the aliens and then if you immediately watch the third Alien movie it starts with that little kid dead. That like all of this was for naught. And that's how I felt like watching this movie we're so invested in her getting together with Keanu Reeves in that movie and he's so amazing in it and then for her to just go yeah I broke up with him six months later he's so amazing in it I think he's great in speed. I think he's great in it. I guess I'm the sole dissenter. And girl he is cut But he I mean so basically I did mother of comedy
Starting point is 00:09:32 So they you know the aboriginal premise is essentially that Keanu Reeves and her go on a boat trip and the boat is hijacked Well not Keanu Reeves, but I mean that it was written that way. It was written that way. He turned it down After reading the script after reading the script He said that after reading the outline or something. Yeah, they're hearing about the dream Well, he said he had recently he did not like the script and he was secure from the success of the first film And he said that he had a movie called chain reaction He said he wasn't mentally or physically ready to star in another action film right now Yeah, and he went to go tour with Dogstar, his band, instead. We should do another show about Dogstar.
Starting point is 00:10:12 How did this get made? How did this get made, Dogstar the band? Basically everyone turned down this movie. Sandra Bullock only agreed to be in this movie if they would finance her movie, Hope Floats. And then William DeFoe was only in this movie after they went to like 10 other guys to be the bad guy And so it was Jason Patrick it went to Matthew McConaughey who went on to do contact and said John Bon Jovi who passed Well, that's the movie. I want to see yeah, I would love to have seen that Patrick Maldoon and Christian Slater Who's Patrick Maldoon? I am he to turn down speed? Yeah, Who's Patrick Maldoon? Who even is? Who is he to turn down speed? Who even is Patrick Maldoon?
Starting point is 00:10:47 I'm going to find out right now. Wait a second. Because you're saying people who are like legitimately like A-list people, and then you set a name that I've literally never heard. All right, I'm looking at it right now. Patrick Maldoon is a pretend person. He was in Starship Troopers.
Starting point is 00:11:00 I doubt it. And Days of Our Lives. He's a soap actor. He's a soap actor. Wow. A soap actor. He's a soap actor. Wow. A soap actor turned this down. That's how bad this script is.
Starting point is 00:11:11 And Jason Patrick was like, I'm in. Oh, he was on Melrose Place. That was his big thing. That makes sense. Yes. So then Jason Patrick finally got it. No one wanted to do this movie. And so he kind of steps into a role that was written for Keanu Reeves, where I think that if you look at the movie,
Starting point is 00:11:26 Keanu Reeves would have been trying to ask Sonder Bullock to marry him. He would have been invested in their relationship already. Instead of when we meet these two, he's about to ask her to marry him, and we are actively rooting against him because we like Keanu Reeves so much. And also, they appear to have a horrible relationship
Starting point is 00:11:43 built upon lies. Built upon a lie. Well, first of all, she's been dating him for six months doesn't know about this thing And then they're like they she doesn't know anything about him, and he's ready to ask her to marry him Yeah, that's it I mean yon to bond said that he just rewrote the first scene to establish that that that was it the movie is every otherwise It's unchanged. It's unchanged my god So it's you know, you know, so that that speaks volumes of why this movie is so fucking weird I wonder if Jeff Bridges would oh no, he's dead in the first one. Oh, sorry spoiler So basically they get on the boat. It's a fun cruise ship
Starting point is 00:12:18 You know it because you meet every character gonna see for the rest of the movie immediately especially Dante Dante Dante he says my name's Dante like 800 times. His last line is, remember, it's Dante. I gotta say too. He says that. Dante's taking pictures the whole time from beginning to end. Oh yes. As the ship is going down.
Starting point is 00:12:37 As he is in the process of dying, he is taking pictures. And I thought for sure these pictures are gonna to come back and we're going to be, we're going to reveal clues that way and understand. It would be like the sequence in Hangover at the end. You spin me right round, baby, right? And you see like all the golf clubs, William DeFoe. I like to think that the guy playing Dante, like that was his actor's process
Starting point is 00:13:01 to hope that he would be remembered in the movie, which is not a bad idea if you're an actor is to constantly say your character name So they meet Dante then they meet this weird guy who's kind of like a concierge he's showing them to his room Maybe I don't I don't have in front of me right the second But yeah, so he's like showing them and then all of a sudden you meet the villain within the first Ten minutes of the movie you've met every main character and the villain is William Defoe who Jason Patrick immediately is like This guy's up to something Yeah, there is never a second on this enormous ship where they are not within 15 feet of Willem Defoe
Starting point is 00:13:41 No, like they are and everyone else we've we've met. There are hundreds and hundreds of people, if not thousands on this cruise ship, and they are constantly surrounded by the same eight people. Well, it's also confusing, because Willem Dafoe could have pulled all of this off and not gone out during the daytime hours. Like he didn't have to do cruise time activities. William Dafoe was out enjoying the ship at the bar like he didn't need to leave the room
Starting point is 00:14:06 You're right scouting. He was just hung out with his leeches all afternoon The leeches the leeches I was I that also I kept being like okay The leeches are gonna play a part in this a bigger part in this and they just don't Well, I mean except to be like there's a tub full of leeches at one point and I was like that's Sees the leeches he says Puppy but you know, you know, it's a funny It's like I feel like it was done this movie was done in the era where the bad guys needed some quirk They couldn't just be bad
Starting point is 00:14:40 Yeah He was a bad guy who needed leeches that were sucking out the copper that he had been exposed to by working on computers. It seems like as a villain you need motivation. Like every great actor that they approach probably are like, what's my motivation? So you know, unlike The Rock, which has Ed Harris as a villain where you're actually on his side because he's like going farther than you would, but you understand why. Like Willem Dafoe is just a fucking insane person
Starting point is 00:15:05 who happens to have leeches. Well, can somebody please explain what he wanted to do? Well, he's worked on the computers for this ship, so he knows everything about it. While he was working on the computers, he got sick. He got sick. And they fired him. Hence the leeches.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Okay, so they fired him because I guess. Which I don't think is legal. Yeah, absolutely. He could have pursued a legal course. Well, it was 1997. No one was suing their companies back then. Law didn't exist. Yeah, this is before 9-11.
Starting point is 00:15:32 A lot of things changed. But he basically was a computer expert who got exposed to too much copper from working on computers. Exposed to too much copper. Which is exactly how computers work. Which, by the way, is what pennies are made out of, which we carry around, exposing ourselves to constantly. Well, you know, that's how Abraham Lincoln died.
Starting point is 00:15:53 So he wants revenge on the company that fired him, and the doctors gave him a couple years to live, but these leeches might give him a couple more years to live. Because he wouldn't trade the leeches for all the doctors in the world, as he says. Yes. Okay, Okay. So... So... So... So his revenge, though, is taking down this boat.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Taking the... No, no. No, the diamonds. The diamonds. The diamonds, which is the craziest part. He wants to steal the diamonds that are on the boat. Brought on the boat by passengers. No, no, by the jewelry company. Remember they say, who wants a-million dollar show blah blah blah.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Some jewelry company is on the boat and they are remember walking around with all those diamonds. Some people are buying them for some weird reason. Yeah and there's a crazy shot where one of the extras like one of the women who's showing the jewelry walks around with the jewelry on a tray. Yeah. And the women jump out of their seats. It's like Oprah's favorite thing. Stare at the jewelry that's on her. It's just strangest. Which then when the boat, they say abandoned ship, the jewelry company says, well, of course, I will leave the diamonds here on this ship.
Starting point is 00:16:55 And they get off the ship. They leave them there. Well, I mean, look, again, it goes back to the diehard thing, too. The villains are so cool, but all they want in the end is just a good score, some bearer bonds or some diamonds But he wants the money to make him less sick or to Think he just wants the money even though he only has a couple years
Starting point is 00:17:12 So he's gonna live it up. He's just gonna live it up I think he's gonna go crazy in St. Martin or wherever you go buy more leeches fine But why does he have to after he's a big copper magnet to like suck the copper out of his body? That's a great idea By the way there another just a couple weird things that jumped out at me before we get into the I mean the die-hard section of the movie Sandra Bullock is just casually watching Lolita while Like a long shot of Lolita is like playing and she's like...
Starting point is 00:17:47 And he's sick, right? He's been puking in a champagne bucket. And she's watching Lolita on a boat. There's another version of this movie which could have just starred Jason Patrick and the deaf girl. The 15 year old girl. That's what I thought there was some... And there would have been a...
Starting point is 00:18:02 Because remember the 15 year old girl is like flirting with him from the from the word go Right there is a very Lolita thing see that night Yeah, when she leaves and gets separated because for that because for it's all for Alex. Yes, and she's so that's why she left She's trying to find him. Well Alex is no her father goes your you look like a clown Get out of here. She's a look like a clown. She looks like a 12-year-old girl in a floral print dress. Yeah, with a little more makeup than girls normally wear. A little bit. And he sends her out.
Starting point is 00:18:31 He's like, get out of here. You clown. Get out of here, deaf girl. Yeah, and the deaf girl... And he doesn't even bother to do it in sign language. He just like yells at her. Well, everybody who signs in this movie also speaks exactly what they're saying. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:18:44 I also want to point out that when she wakes up after watching Lolita and Jason Patrick is gone, he's skeet shooting. And somehow she is woken up by the sound of his skeet shooting. She has gotten such the worst cabin on the boat that must be directly underneath. And by the way, the bed in that cabin is not a full-size bed. It's like a twin bed. It's a twin bed that they're both sleeping on. They're both sleeping in a twin bed.
Starting point is 00:19:10 That cabin looked like hell to me. By the way, it was referred to as a suite. Suite, yeah. Guys, what can you expect on a Suicide Squad cop salary? That's true. That's a good point. And the other thing is, while he's skeet shooting, who's watching him? Willem Dafoe. Just like, oh, because they have to be in the same place at all times. Oh man William Defoe, Willem Dafoe again
Starting point is 00:19:31 He could have the way that he could have gotten those diamonds got on the on the like the boats that left the boat And been fine. He could have done so many things He has a gun the entire movie and yet he's killing people by cutting the cords on the chains that are holding them. Like just, like he's firing guns at the rope that's holding Jason Patrick to the ship. Like just fire the gun at Jason Patrick. You're willing to murder everyone. No, there's the moment where- He likes Rube Goldberg contractions.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Yeah, like the moment where he like comes across Sandra Bullock and the captain guy and they've got Jason Patrick tied to a rope and Jason Patrick is underwater and he's like holding a gun on them But then instead just flips a lever and hides What are you doing shoot those two people the only Works out for you. They let go of Jason Patrick. He dies you kill them them, you have the diamonds, then you can flee. But instead he's like, I'm gonna switch this liver. And hope nobody notices me.
Starting point is 00:20:29 And hope that, yeah, I'm gonna hide over here, hope nobody notices me, oh shoot, they noticed me. Oh crap, I guess I'll take a hostage. Also, by the way, part of this movie relies on everyone being very easily able to get into the ship's cockpit. Everyone's able to walk right in there. There's no security in getting into that ship cockpit at any time.
Starting point is 00:20:50 William Defoe walks in as a drunk guy, and they're like, oh, this drunk guy's stuff in here. And they give him a lot of latitude, by the way. They let him hang out there for a good 20 minutes. He falls on all the major controls. He falls on all the major controls, puts all these different devices all over the central cockpit.
Starting point is 00:21:08 And then later on when Alex comes in, fake Keanu comes in, he starts shooting at the cockpit stuff. Sure, yeah, no one cares. No one's ever being taken into a rest. No one's ever like, hey man, stay away from this cockpit. This stuff's kind of important. Hey Paul, did you have the clip of Willem Dafoe
Starting point is 00:21:26 attacking the captain? That's the one that I wanted to play. That has my favorite line in the thing. If we get to. That was what we just were playing because it's the one where he has the swinging lamp. Yeah, that's what I thought the clip was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would love to hear that.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Let's just try it again. We're still 40 degrees off course. Did you check the main framer? I think it's a little bit after. Captain Pollard. Good evening. How can you be running the ship if you're not on the bridge? Who is running the ship? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:55 I am. Look, what is this? Who are you? I spent a great many years developing computer systems for these cruise lines, including this baby. And then I got tossedOSSED AWAY! What are you talking about? That's what really infuriates me.
Starting point is 00:22:10 You don't even know what I'm talking about. How dare you! Okay. Yeah. So that is my favorite line, which is, that's what really infuriates me, you don't even know what I'm talking about. That's not the favorite line. The favorite line is the captain saying, how dare you!
Starting point is 00:22:27 How dare he what? Insinuate that someone doesn't know what he's talking about? This movie obviously does not have a script and they improv'd all these scenes. There's so much bad improv going on to where people are trying to heighten things that should not be heightened. Do you think during this scene, and I hate to cut to later in the movie, but when Sandra Bullock sort of... Bullock?
Starting point is 00:22:52 Bullock. Bulloxy Blues. Sandra Bulloxy Blues drives away in a jet ski, like sort of figures out how to detach her jet ski from Melinda Faux's jet ski. Yeah, which is basically she pulls the lever that says, detach jet ski. She pulls one lever, and then he calls after her. Wait!
Starting point is 00:23:10 You're my hostage! You're my hostage. In this scene, the sound you're hearing inexplicably is Willem Dafoe is swinging a stationary lamp back and forth that has like a range of about three feet. As if it is itself a threatening object to the captain. And as long as the captain stays within, I mean further than three feet away from him,
Starting point is 00:23:36 Willem Dafoe's just moving a lamp. Or Jason, he could have just turned around and walked. And walked away. Just literally walked away. Just walked away. I'm not going over there. I'm gonna just let it go. There's that drunk guy from last night.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Okay, goodbye. It says if the swinging lamp is like the deadliest of weapons. And it's hypnotizing him to come closer. And it does in fact lead to his death. It does, he gets knocked off. Because he got too close. Conceptually though, the first movie is only,
Starting point is 00:24:01 is interesting because you have a bus, it's out of control, people on it. They could die You know it's it's there's inherent tension exactly this one You're up first of all you're following the wrong character because she doesn't she's not a hero She doesn't do any she doesn't do anything She doesn't punch you always are ready for her to be like when is she gonna deliver the punch when is she gonna take out? The chainsaw she does use the chainsaw she uses the chainsaw With Dante's help. But she basically is like, I'm on vacation. Uh-uh, this is happening again.
Starting point is 00:24:28 She puts a bikini on very quickly. Very quickly. She's in a bikini and a sarong like immediately. Oh wait. And purple sunglasses. One of my favorite clothing. She looks way too tan. Which you've been shooting for a while.
Starting point is 00:24:41 One of my favorite moments in the movie is Jason Patrick goes down to work underneath the boat and he's like in this wet white shirt And he rips it off, and then he runs into another room and then immediately the next scene He's putting on like a black shirt like they're clearly he did not want to be shirtless for like the second section of this movie Right so like they don't justify where that shirt came from like it wasn't like he went back to his room or anything like that Like he just found a random new clean shirt that he ran in case of break glass
Starting point is 00:25:15 Nice tight shirt Weird thing about this movie conceptually though too is that the stakes keep on changing, but not necessarily Heightening so it's like you think you're where the boat's headed toward a tank on this course. No, first toward the island. No, first towards the cliffs. Oh yeah. Well, toward the cliffs and that's pretty bad, but then it's headed to a tanker, which is also pretty bad.
Starting point is 00:25:34 It's like there's no... And on the tanker, by the way. The movie is just traps. The movie is a series of traps. Jason Patrick has no reason to do anything he's doing. They can get off the boat. What does he care? Yeah, what does he care other than this guy is breaking the law? He is putting so many people in danger. He leads, no so many people actually die. He floods the ship, he floods the ship while a deaf girl is down below
Starting point is 00:25:58 Simply because this guy is breaking the law and he needs to be caught. What do you care? Yeah, because he's on the suicide squad. That's what they do. They put their lives at risk. And the action is so boring. It seems so... And shot in slow motion too. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:26:15 When it would cut to slow motion during action sequences, I would be like, this is horrible. Well, there's also... I do think they ran into a problem with shooting the action, which is that the boat, even at moving like 17.6 knots, is still moving at a pretty slow pace. It's a boat. It's a gigantic ship. It's not in open water. There's nothing to show you how quick it's moving.
Starting point is 00:26:37 There's nothing to show scale. Like if they were to show a dolphin and it whizzing by a dolphin who's like, oh my god, that's a fast boat, like maybe you would get something. Yes, but the other problem too is like they have, as the boat gets closer and closer to land, they're sort of hitting this resort town and there are all these other just, you know, water features. Which by the way,
Starting point is 00:26:55 nobody notices. Yeah, nobody notices. No, they're looking directly at. A cruise liner is coming right at them. Like people literally, the boat, like the giant ass cruise liner is four feet away and they're like, oh shit, I should move my boat now.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Oh, I gotta jump off my boat, you know? But even people on the boat don't notice either. But no one is jumping off the boat. That's the other thing that I, no one thinks to ever jump off the boat. People are more willing to jump off the twin towers than they are willing to jump off this boat in this movie. Way too soon, way too soon. But no, but I thought the same way, when they were getting close to land boat in this movie. Too soon. Way too soon.
Starting point is 00:27:25 But no, but I thought the same way, like when they were getting close to land, it's like, oh, it's shallow now, just jump off the boat. Just jump off the boat. There are water skiers out there. Okay, hang on, time out, time out. I think what they tried to establish was that if you jumped in or fell off the boat, you get sucked into the propeller. Sure.
Starting point is 00:27:40 So that's why people weren't jumping off the boat. That's my belief. And they're just hoping for the best, that they they're gonna crash into, you know what I mean? I don't know, man. What would you do? I, what would I have done? Yeah. I would have tried to find Willem Dafoe and punched him in the nose and been like,
Starting point is 00:27:56 oh, I would have flooded the ship. Flooded the ship. There also is a lifeboat that you see hanging from ropes that you could very easily get onto at any point and cut off the ropes. But they can't get the, I mean you could fall I guess in the lifeboat. Yeah. Not that high.
Starting point is 00:28:13 It's pretty high. It's gonna float though. You're a coward. You are a coward. How about you cut the ropes and then you jump in the water and you hold onto it. How about when the woman, how about when the deaf girl's mother is like, our daughter's still in there, our daughter's still in there, and she tries to climb out and by climbing out knocks the balance of the lifeboat off, two people fall out, get sucked into the propellers
Starting point is 00:28:32 and die, and then her husband goes, don't worry, it's not your fault, it's not your fault. It is 100% your fault. It's no one's fault but hers. And every time Sandra Bullock and Jason Patrick reunite, like which happens frequently, right? They will have their separate adventures and they'll reunite. I genuinely feel like he would rather punch her in the face than kiss her. I feel like he hates her.
Starting point is 00:28:57 I want to talk about two other lines that were... I feel like he as an actor hates Sandra Bullock as an actor. You feel like irritation coming from him. There's no chemistry between these two. Yeah. The one, the two lines that I love that are so, well, you know what? We should play a clip between Sandra Bullock and the second clip here, between Sandra Bullock and Jason Patrick.
Starting point is 00:29:19 Oh, are you OK? Yeah, I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine. What's happening? Why did the shift start up again? Why? Why didn't you leave me upstairs? Hahaha! I need a situation. I know you have a situation. What? What? Geiger's taking over the ship.
Starting point is 00:29:35 Geiger? I'm not looking at my golf game, Geiger? What? No, Geiger, I'm a computer psycho. Geiger, I design all the software. And Geiger, I can blow up everything. Why would he do that? I don't know. Well, where is he? He's everywhere. He's everywhere. I know the software and Geiger I can blow up everything. Why would he do that? He's everywhere By the way, I want to point out that that when the the the the guy who gives everyone that who takes everyone's luggage to Their their cabins he knocks on Willem Dafoe's door. He walks in and sees a computer and he immediately
Starting point is 00:30:00 Realizes that this guy is a villain. Oh my god! A computer in a cabin? Guys, we- What is this guy up to? Also, why is the bellhop doing the turn down service? The bellhop is not the same guy. Those are not his duties. Can we also talk about, like, just to talk briefly about the technology in this movie? All of the computers-
Starting point is 00:30:18 A fiber optic converter? Fiber optic converter is amazing. But they were compu- all of the computer prompts were English. They were like, the computer would ask him time to initiate and he would type in now. Like everything was like conversation. Instead of clicking on something. There was no commands, there was no like,
Starting point is 00:30:41 it was just, everything was conversational. It made everything the computer did was like, warning, we have a problem. There's a guy in India he's communicating with. It made me so furious. Every screen would say stuff that was like, literally as if the computer was talking language to the to the typer.
Starting point is 00:31:00 My favorite line of the whole movie is, Alex confronts William Defoe and Please start calling him Willem Willem and Willem goes He has something in his hand. He goes it's not a gun. It's a computer. Yeah And it's like he's wearing basically a Nintendo power glove And then and then he's like, okay, I'm gonna just go drown right now And then he types in like some great I'm gonna just go drown right now.
Starting point is 00:31:25 And then he types in like some- People, people, people, people, people, people, people. In his hands and then like walls start shutting down. And then the door, he has instant access to close individual doors on the boat with the Super Nintendo controller that he has strapped to his arm. By the way, at that moment, Jason Patrick,
Starting point is 00:31:38 I don't know if you noticed this, but fires the gun at him, is willing to murder him. Yes. At this point. Immediately. Immediately willing to murder him. Which by the way, he should be willing to murder him. Well he hasn't done anything at this point. The only thing that he knows is that this guy is interested in getting his golf clubs on the ship and it's weird that he is not watching the golf game on the TV. And he's set up some fake fires on the ship. That's all he's done. He's
Starting point is 00:32:00 made people abandon the ship and set up fake fires. He is going to straight up murder this man. There's one line that I wanted to point out which was Willem Dafoe says to Alex, he says, I don't know what it's referring to, but he says, I'm a smart guy, Alex, and even I know that. I'm pretty sure the line should be, I'm a dumb guy and even I know that. Like if you're a smart guy and you know that.
Starting point is 00:32:25 Like no doy, I know that. Like as a smart guy, no doy, we all know that. I think you are right, Scott, that they did not have a script because there's lines that are so weird. There's one opening shot, like after people have been hurt on the ship, a guy comes over and goes,
Starting point is 00:32:44 here are some more giant towels and he's like what's the most like giant towels here's the giant towels about being like okay you come over you say something like he probably says go to go refer to those giant towels are you sure you want me to say something about you know you're the giant house then the camera will very quickly move to see somebody else. There are whip pans in this movie that are just like jarring.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Well, nothing makes sense. Even the oil tanker that they're going to be crashing into, they're watching TV or movies about boats crashing into boats. I didn't notice that. Oh, yeah, when they're on the oil tanker. Yeah, they're watching. They have their TV sets to the ironic channel that you see in so many movies. It's like somebody in an airplane disaster movie, like, oh yeah, I'm just watching this DVD of airplanes blowing up.
Starting point is 00:33:35 I'm really bummed I didn't get to, like, I bet if there's a Yanderevant commentary, I bet it's amazing. Oh my God. I think he stopped working on it, like he only made like two more movies after this, right? Well, he became like a DP. Well, he wasn't Yeah, yeah, he's like Rennie Harlan like Yandabon and Rennie Harlan are like to me the same person They would have given them anything foreign Like directors who made a big splash and then kind of like shit their second movie is the worst
Starting point is 00:34:02 Yeah, Leonard part six was a movie he directed Thank the Lord As a yeah as a director he only directed six movies we did speed and twister which were successes yes The haunting Lara Croft Tomb Raider the cradle of life and he's in right now pre-production on five minutes to live So he's back he's back Oh, this is it two men conducting a bank robbery and form the manager She'll be killed unless she makes a money transfer within five minutes sounds like speed two in a bank Also, that's a really short period of time for a movie that should be like a funnier die short
Starting point is 00:34:50 Ninety-minute movie that takes place within five minutes. All right, let's talk about this boat There's the big scene at the end the big scene for this movie to exist the ten minute did anybody time it? Yes, it is Right here. It is an eternity. It feels like an eternity. I guessed 10 minutes. I wrote 10 minutes. I guessed infinity. Sia, do you want to take how long it is?
Starting point is 00:35:10 I'd say about 12 minutes. Okay. Well, it is a five minute scene when it starts crashing. When I think it starts hitting the dock. Oh, okay. But there's a lot of lead up to that. There is a lot of lead up. But I, okay, but there's a lot of lead up to that. There is a lot of lead up, but I, okay, yes.
Starting point is 00:35:25 When the boat, what we're talking about is when the boat smashes into land. Right, they direct the boat into a little harbor. There's gotta be five minutes before that where they're like, we're going to crash, though. No, no, there is. That's when they're hitting all the boats, and by hitting the boats, they're slowing down inexplicably. And by the way, they're dropping the anchor for the first time this is actually
Starting point is 00:35:46 Yeah, oh hey, what if we drop this? Oh drop the other one? Drop both at the same time you fucking it is stuck this movie it cost 25 million dollars to do this sequence just the sequence just the sequence 25 million dollars it was took six months to build this town that they crashed through. They built 35 buildings. And then the boat, basically the boat, it's the whole front of the ship, and then they CGI'd in the back of the ship, runs through the entire town, like on a track. Thousands of people must have died.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Yeah. You know what I mean? Like hundreds of people were killed if this was real. If it was real. But that's the point is like every single time it crashes into anything, it's like an episode of the A-Team. You see someone jumping out of the way. Yes.
Starting point is 00:36:32 You know? Every cliche. No one dies in this movie. Every cliche you could possibly ever see in this final boat, they're like, people having sex. And they're like, whoa. The open-closed sign. Oh yeah, open-closed.
Starting point is 00:36:41 The guy like flips a closed sign to open, sees the boat, flips it back to closed. The guy who has a brand new car is like, oh, open close. The guy who like flips a close sign to open, sees the boat, flips it back to closed. The guy who has a brand new car is like, oh my car! Which by the way, I have Kulop's sister's son staying with us, who's two years old, and he was running around during this movie. And you know, it was a pretty grim viewing. None of us were laughing at anything. The guy says, my car! And then the anchor drops into his car. And then the dog drops out.
Starting point is 00:37:04 He bursts out laughing. Like it's the funniest thing he has ever seen because and he doesn't really understand Comedy or anything, but he just knew the cadence of that that was a joke I believe that guy was a Cameo from the first movie like he he I think had his car also destroyed in the first movie I think it seems like sequence, we also follow that little dog. By the way, he's also coming out of a 7-Eleven, which is in this weird island. Everything is really rustic, and then it's like, 7-Eleven. 7-Eleven paid for that at all.
Starting point is 00:37:39 But yeah, that little dog who we watch try to escape pops up out of that car and makes a man. Thank God. But the guy's not excited, he wasn't like, my dog! He was like, my dog, my wife! The mom and the son who were looking at an apartment with a real estate dealer and the boat, the cruise liner plows right through their perspective home.
Starting point is 00:38:02 Those people are without a doubt dead. No, they jumped out of the way. Nope. They jumped out of the way I was curious about those two because they're looking at an apartment. I thought this resort town. There's no father figure Yeah, I wanted to know about their story And also I want to point out that at one point the ship knocks over a giant champagne bottle and when it knocks it over Like champagne comes out of it as if they would make a giant sculpture of a champagne bottle and when it knocks it over, like champagne comes out of it. As if they would make a giant sculpture of a champagne bottle and they're like,
Starting point is 00:38:28 well we gotta fill this up. We gotta make this seven, like it's. Why are the young street toughs who live in this town like going and poking holes in this thing? It's not like a water, oh man. Oh, I forgot about my favorite action sequence in the whole movie. The turn the wheel sequence. Oh, underwater, about my favorite action sequence in the whole movie. The turn the wheel sequence.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Oh, underwater, turn the wheel? The most boring action of all time. Basically, Jason Patrick and this other guy, Dante, have to unscrew a wheel. And they can only do it at 15 second intervals. And they just keep on cutting back to them, like turning it for like three turns. And the other one comes in and turns it.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Then the other one comes in. I wonder if Dante's camera got messed up. You know it was waterproof. Oh it was? Oh thank God, thank God. Oh thank goodness. So the whole city is destroyed, the ship stops, it hits the bell on a church,
Starting point is 00:39:16 everything is okay, relatively. Well but first they plow into the city and the ship stops and we think everything's okay. They would have killed so many people on the beach, let alone in every building they destroyed. Oh yeah, I mean the building structurally. But then the ship starts to fall over too. Oh yeah. Oh and that would have killed another 100,000 people, at least.
Starting point is 00:39:37 And then they have to go back and basically Jason Patrick is like, jumps out the front window of the ship. Which by the way, the Willem Dafoe had left the ship on those, the dual jet skis that we all know and love. Yeah. With Sandra Bullock, probably three hours earlier. Yes. Jason Patrick jumps off this boat that's just crashed, gets into another boat, catches up with them in 90 seconds.
Starting point is 00:40:00 And is like, I gotta find my girlfriend. Time is pretty elastic in this movie though. Like it's dinnertime when the first, when Willem Dafoe I think starts evacuating people and then he goes on a walk through that ship. Then they walk outside and it's morning. It's like 11 a.m. This is a dream.
Starting point is 00:40:20 The whole movie is a dream. And Willem Dafoe is still walking around. That's true, the whole movie is kind of just a dream. It's like, the movie is two hours and five minutes. Yeah, it's a long movie. I lost my mind. I was like, come on. Was this before Titanic?
Starting point is 00:40:32 It was, yeah. 2007, I believe this was. Which, you know, sorry, not too, 97. Titanic actually just shows you how a ship crashing, you can actually have tension because there would be people drowning, you know, it was actually really good in telling you how people were gonna die and be in peril in that movie. Well, let's take a commercial break. We'll be right back. How did this go be?
Starting point is 00:40:55 How did this go be? Alright, so this movie, now we're in the final act here. Womba foes getaway. Again, like, now you're just like, when is this gonna be over? Like what is going on? He also keeps taunting her about her vacation. He's obsessed with the idea that she's on vacation because he says to her several times, enjoying your vacation?
Starting point is 00:41:16 Or he says like, how do you think your vacation is gonna be different now that you're a hostage? And he also says, you'll never get me, Spider-Man. Do you think when he's first talking to her at the bar in that opening scene that that's what he was talking about? Because I don't think we actually hear dialogue. You're probably right.
Starting point is 00:41:33 She probably said, I'm on vacation. Which by the way, I don't mean to go back, but I feel like we skipped the worst dialogue in the movie. Oh, please. The extended metaphor when he's about to ask her to marry him, where he's saying, can I order a la carte? Well, no, you're gonna have to order from the menu. Well, what if I wanted to order something from you?
Starting point is 00:41:56 Well, it depends on what section you're sitting in. How's the service? Well, what, you know, like. Am I gonna get tips? How did they get lost in the middle of that? Cause it goes on forever. I could not follow. And everybody at the table is watching it.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Yeah. And like, listening. It was like. Well, his final proposal though is no better. When he says, do you wanna wear this ring for a while? And by the way. That's the worst funky line I've ever heard. By the way, props to whatever pants he was wearing
Starting point is 00:42:24 because that ring. Props to the pants. Cause that way, props to whatever pants he was wearing because that ring. Props to the pants. Because that ring stayed securely in his pants pocket the entire movie. He kind of shoves the ring in his pocket very early on. He has been tossed out of windows, he's been under the boat. And for people who haven't seen it,
Starting point is 00:42:39 it's not in a ring box. It is in a pouch. No, it's just a ring. It is in a pouch with one clasp and open flaps. Which It is in a pouch with like one clasp and open flaps. Which is not how, as a man who's proposed to a woman, you want to carry your ring. Yeah, of course. You want to be a little more sure of it. Hey, you want to wear this for the rest of your life?
Starting point is 00:42:54 Or something? No, do you want to wear this for a while? A while. And she goes, you want to shove this on your finger for a couple of weeks? And she goes, for how long? And he goes, 50 years. Like, that was his life. Like, we'll be dead in 50 years. Like that was his, I was like.
Starting point is 00:43:06 We'll be dead in 50 years probably. That was such a bummer. What, you want us to die at 80? He actively hates you. Yeah, we have to be married after we're dead. He would rather have his adventures than be with her or protect her. And she is in danger solely because of his actions.
Starting point is 00:43:22 She's in danger, all they needed to do is get on the lifeboat. Get off the boat, get off the boat. And's in danger, all they needed to do is get on the lifeboat. Get off the boat! Get on that lifeboat and he's like, oh wait a minute, something, and she's like, wait what? He's like, go over there, do that, like, he literally like throws her away like garbage. Literally. Repeatedly.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Literally? Literally. Throws her away like garbage. By the way, the only thing that they could really take from the first movie is that famous line which I'm gonna butcher But is that line is like you know relationships to start in extreme circumstances don't work They they say that about four times it to the deaf girl when she tells him yes She loves him yeah, and will be 15 soon which they at the very beginning
Starting point is 00:43:59 The fact that she broke up the fact that she broke up with Keanu Reeves proves that to be true But they keep saying it like it's a cute thing from the movie. No, they don't work, obviously. Didn't work. Didn't not work. And that's a bummer for those of us who saw the first movie. And rooting for them. I've heard that Yandabon is making a speed three, but the characters in it are Jason
Starting point is 00:44:18 Patrick and the 15-year-old girl. That shot when that girl takes off her jacket is so upsetting. And the sequence when they first make eyes at each other from across the dining room. What do you want her to do, make ears? No, guys, it's a meet-cute. Jason Patrick, a grown man, has a meet-cute with a 14-year-old girl from across the room. He is more interested in chatting with her via sign language than talking to the woman he's having sex with who's sitting next to him.
Starting point is 00:44:52 It is absolutely disturbing. And then when he saves the little girl, she basically is like, I want to be with you. Lolita is already in the mix. Yeah, we've already laid down some track here. I swear to God, Yon Devant is like, the real like we've already laid down some track Yon Devant is like the real couple in this is the girl But his response like you said is not like that's not appropriate. That's not possible. It's just like these these aren't the right Circumstances right now. Yeah, he's keeping it alive
Starting point is 00:45:25 Speed three it's Lolita It's on an airplane. But the airplane is, it's a commuter jet and it only has 30 minutes to get to where it's going. Oh, and then the saddest death scene of all time. Like William, uh, Wilhelm. Wilhelm, the foes. The plane gets stuck on like an antenna. Which is impossible.
Starting point is 00:45:39 Yes, totally impossible. It gets stuck on an antenna. Defying the laws of physics and of man. 100%. Gas comes out and it explodes. And it explodes up a giant tank. Nothing in this movie. Everything explodes here in this movie.
Starting point is 00:45:54 They hit a sailboat at one point. And the sailboat explodes into a fire. It's a fucking sailboat. Where was the gas? But then you cut to a raft where the people who owned the sailboat are successfully rafted. Don't worry they're fine, they're fine. But yeah, so it's the worst.
Starting point is 00:46:09 Wait, my favorite one of those was when they're, right? The boat is screaming through the, like where all the little boats are and stuff, running over boats, and there's a dude on like jet skis or a wakeboard Rather you don't awake board is being towed and the boat cuts across cutting the boat Yeah, the guy off and you just see in slow motion as the guy on the wakeboard like jumps up and like clang Hits right into the side of the cruise line there useless action to it How did you not see this cruise liner this close?
Starting point is 00:46:47 No one, everyone's on their vacation. Obviously, we did not like this movie. Hippies, get the hippies. Remember the hippies, the hippie boat? Oh, the hippie boat. With the tie-dye guys? Peace? Can I just say, can we talk about the-
Starting point is 00:46:57 You gotta be messing with my head man. Can we talk about the very end of the movie, the last shot of the movie? Yeah, sure. Sandra Bullock is back with Tim Conway. She's in her driver's test again. And they can't resist adding one more joke, because she drives off, it fades out, and you hear crash.
Starting point is 00:47:14 Yes. From a bus. From a bus. Ostensibly, she is dead. Yes. She's like, yeah, you hear that crash. Sheee! And other innocent people are dead, too.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Yes. So obviously, we did not like this movie, but hear that crash. Shhh! And other innocent people are dead too. Yes. So obviously we did not like this movie, but some people did. So it's now time for a second opinion. These are reviews culled from Amazon, five star reviews. I want to point out that one person who really liked this movie is Roger Ebert. Cisco and Ebert Thumbs up the only comes up the only critics this movie has a 2% on Rotten Tomatoes Roger Ebert says movies like this embrace goofiness with a sensual pleasure
Starting point is 00:47:56 Sensual hold on Roger Ebert and so on a warm summer evening. Do I? Did he finger someone to this movie? Grosso. Yeah, that was, that movie's the finger to Speed 2, because girl. Alright, so these are some reviews from Amazon. This is from S. LeMay. Honestly, this movie is amazing. I'll keep it brief and honest.
Starting point is 00:48:21 Patrick, better than Reeves. Defoe, better than Hopper. Bullock, better than Bullock. What? Five stars. That's a joke review. To be fair, he might be saying that she was better than Jim J. Bullock's performance in the first scene. In the one where he gets raped in the van? Yes. This is another one from Ronnie Clay. Now these are written back in the day. These are not new ones. America, y'all, stupid for not loving this movie. Look up the word talent.
Starting point is 00:48:51 It's better than Titanic, I'll say. Hold on. I'm going to look up the word talent. Hold on. And he goes, it was fun trying to see those two guys turn the cruise ship hard to the right so it wouldn't crash into that other ship. What?
Starting point is 00:49:01 No. What was really exciting was the cruise ship wouldn't stop once it reached the beach. And it kept on crashing into buildings and wrecking little boats my star Like to follow up with that person now And finally how you wasted your time hammy big fan rights hammy big fan dude this movie rocks It's got everything. Sandra Bullock and boats.
Starting point is 00:49:26 That is why this movie is awesome. Those are the only two things that he wants. It's got everything. Sandra Bullock and boats. Is there another movie that has Sandra Bullock and boats in it? He must have been disappointed by- The Lake House. The Lake House.
Starting point is 00:49:34 He loves it. Hope Floats, right? Or at least he was really upset by Hope Floats. He's like, it seems like there should be Sandra Bullock and boats. There's the two things I love in this movie. So those are some second opinions. If you guys have an opinion about this show, log on to iTunes and rate our show.
Starting point is 00:49:55 It helps us, I guess, in the whole world of iTunes. It's an important thing to rate and review our show. And your views have been great already. But give us a rating and review. We appreciate that. All right. Alright now would you even recommend anyone going to see this? I don't know it's so it's so long and so boring for long stretches of time that I would almost say no. There is zero excitement in it. I saw it opening day because I just saw every movie that came out back then and I didn't remember any of it
Starting point is 00:50:25 I watched this again with totally new eyes. So there's not a single scene that is exciting I mean, no, no usually in a movie. There's one thing that you go Well, that was pretty especially a bad like an action movie Like you would assume that at least some of the action will sell you on right bad dialogue or bad whatever But this is loaded. It's bloated in every sense. It's a waterlogged, how about that? Oh, waterlogged. Oh, waterlogged.
Starting point is 00:50:49 I'm so proud of you. I'm taking over. I'm proud of you. June, what do you say, no? I don't know. I think it's kind of watchable. It is long. It's watchable in the sense of it's not like a,
Starting point is 00:51:01 I guess a boring movie. I mean, it's boring. I stopped it so many times that I was like, I passed forward it because I was like, this is like deadly. Yeah, the actual. I don't know. I would just be, I would say if you wanna watch it,
Starting point is 00:51:13 we'll just watch Speed 1. You know? Yeah, Speed 1's better. Scott, this is a new feature we're gonna do. Let's see how this works. What is your favorite bad summer movie? Like a big blockbuster that you felt did not work. Do you have any things that you-
Starting point is 00:51:26 That's really bad that I like? Or yeah, bad that was like, yeah, something you might recommend. Like a Batman and Robin, a Wild Wild West, anything like that that sticks out to you? I love The Rock and Con Air. Those are actually like two really good ones to me. I mean, Con Air is not good.
Starting point is 00:51:41 No. Con Air is amazing. The Rock is technically a really good movie. I really like The Rock. The Rock is great. Con Air is great. Con Air is not good. No. Con Air is amazing. The Rock is technically a really good movie. I really like The Rock. The Rock is great. Con Air is great. Con Air is great while being terrible. Yes.
Starting point is 00:51:49 I mean, it is like. I love that movie. We, back in the day when Mr. Show was happening, we would go to. Name the movie. Mr. Show. We would go to movies. We get it.
Starting point is 00:52:00 We know who this guy, Mr. Show, whatever. We would go to movies dressed as whatever was happening in that movie. So, Paul F. Tompkins, John Madden, B.J. Porter, and I went to see Conair dressed as convicts in prison jumpsuits. That's amazing. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:52:16 Oh man, Conair, we should watch that. That would be a fun one to talk about. That's actually really good. We have to get back to Nicholas Cage. I'm a little worried. It's been a while. It's been some time since we talked from Cage. Scott, to get back to Nicholas Cage. I'm a little worried. It's been a while. It's been some time since we talked from Cage.
Starting point is 00:52:27 Scott, you have a brand new show on IFC coming up, which I'm sure you're just heard of now. This Friday at 10 PM, Comedy Bang Bang. This Friday we have Zach Alfenakis in it, Will Forte, Andy Daly, Gillian Jacobs, myself, Reggie Watts. But every Friday at 10, but I hope people watch it. It's gonna be great. And so if you like the podcast, you'll love the show.
Starting point is 00:52:46 And even if you hate the podcast, I think you'll still like the show. Hey look, yeah, I mean. Look, I get it. Yeah. You're open to anybody liking the show. Sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:55 I understand. Watch it, just watch it. Whatever you're feeling, John. Decide whether you hate it or not, but just watch it. Just get guys, watch it. By all means, let me know if you hate it. Immediately. Just so people can just tweet at you
Starting point is 00:53:04 how much they dislike what you're doing. That's the best thing about Twitter is it's like everyone has your email. All right, so definitely watch Comedy Bang Bang on IFC. June, anything you'd like to talk about? No. What about Burning Love? You're great in that. Oh, I forgot.
Starting point is 00:53:20 Burning Love is a web series I did with Ken Marino, Janet Varney. It comes out this week, I think. It comes out this week, I think. It comes out this Monday, January 4th, June 4th on Yahoo.com. Yeah, and BurningLove.com as well. I've seen it. It's really, really funny. If you like The Bachelor and The Bachelorette, you will like this a lot. Jason, you're still in The Dictator.
Starting point is 00:53:39 I'm still in The Dictator. They have not cut me out. When does that happen? Because I'm waiting until then. Three weeks in, they're gonna cut my part out completely. Yeah, go see The Dictator, it's in theaters now. I am on a movie that just came out on Friday on Video On Demand and in 75 movie theaters
Starting point is 00:53:58 called Piranha 3DD. I didn't know it came out. Oh, this Friday, oh, but just passed. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. So, Piranha, price you wanted to see what happened to my character and how I became friends with Ving Rhames in sequel You have to wait till about 30 minutes into a 65 minute movie, but you can watch it Pretty short. It's pretty short. It's about I think 70 something minutes all told and there's about 12 minutes of bloopers I Do think the prana 3d has one of the best lines in history spoken. I will not give it to you, but you can watch it.
Starting point is 00:54:31 It's said by Katrina Boden from 30 Rock. Will you do a podcast about that movie, do you think? I feel like... Are you staying away from your own project? I feel like I would get in trouble on some level if I did that. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm going. I'm gonna get that VOD VOD it will not be in 3d, but there are plenty of boobs plenty of boobs
Starting point is 00:54:51 Yes, I love that Like at least three per person you there. That's all like a total recall. It's all three boobs Scott Aukerman on Twitter Miss June Diane on Twitter at Paul share on Twitter. I'm not on Twitter. Yeah Dave Steffi, thank you for pulling our clips. Cody, thank you so much for being an engineer. Thank you so much. See you later. Bye-bye.

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