How Did This Get Made? - Staying Alive LIVE! w/ Katie Dippold (HDTGM Matinee)

Episode Date: April 15, 2025

The art of dance, sweat, and slow-mo sex faces are all brought you by Sylvester & Frank Stallone in the sequel to Saturday Night Fever. LIVE from Largo in Los Angeles, special guest Katie Dippold (Ghostbusters, The Heat) joins Paul, June, & Jason to talk about the Broadway production of Satan’s Alley, John Travolta turning down a three-way with two new wave girls, and how much June knows about dance. Plus, we finally find out whether a sweaty Travolta or Evil Ernest oozes more sexuality and everyone breaks into dance during 2nd Opinions. (Originally Released 09/09/2014)  Get tix for our May 9th Toronto show at hdtgm.comHave a correction or omission for Last Looks? Call 619-PAULASK to leave us a voicemail!Buy HDTGM merch at howdidthisgetmade.dashery.com/Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of TraumaJoin the HDTGM conversation on Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmShop our new hat collection at podswag.comPaul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheerPaul’s YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheerFollow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheerSubscribe to Enter The Dark Web w/ Paul and Rob Huebel: youtube.com/@enterthedarkwebListen to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson: unspooledpodcast.comListen to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael: thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcastInstagram: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & @junedianeTwitter: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & msjunediane  Jason is not on social mediaEpisode transcripts available at how-did-this-get-made.simplecast.com/episodesGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm

Imagine Black Swan if it was directed by Sylvester Stallone with music by Frank Stallone. We saw Stayin' Alive, so you know what that means. Now it's time for How to Describe Pain. We're gonna have a good time, celebrate some failure, not just be a hater, cause you know you wonder how to describe pain. Let's war in the mediocrity of subpar art

Perhaps we'll find the answer to the question How did this get made? Hello people of Earth and hello people of Los Angeles! We are here tonight at Largo, our home in Los Angeles with an amazing audience, you just heard them. And we have a very, very exciting show. It's appropriate that we are doing this show in a theater, because this is a show about theater. About the art, the craft of dance.

And we are gonna talk about this movie, but we're gonna do things a little bit differently tonight. As I introduce everybody, here we go. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome my co-host for the evening. Please welcome Jason Manzoukas. June Diane Raphael.

And special guest, Katie Dippo! That was the dulcet tones of Frank Stallone. I have seriously non-stop been listening to that song. I kind of love it. That song should be called nonstop. It is relentless. It is an amazing, it's a beautiful song,

and I'm so glad that we can all share it. I'm going to play that when I have sex next. I'm going to be like, hey, give me just one second. Bam, ba-da-da, bam, bam, ba-da-da, bam, bam, ba-da-da, ba-ba-ba-ba-ba. I'm done. Ladies. When I heard that song, and I had heard it like in things that were making fun

of staying alive for so long that I was like, who wrote it? Is that a Bee Gees song? And then I realized, no, how much Frank Stallone stink is all over this movie. Seven songs of Frank Stallone. Thank God. Frank Stallone, if you do search him, like I have been searching him, his album cover,

he clearly couldn't decide whether or not... You're making that documentary, searching for Frank Stallone. Right? Uh, he, uh, lives in a studio, uh, in West Hollywood. So he, uh, but he couldn't make a... With his mom jacket. He couldn't make a decision on his album cover to put on the leather jacket,

so it's just over one side of his body. It's a pretty great,'s a pretty great album cover. Welcome. Oh, guys. This was a dream. I watched this whole movie just in awe. Yeah. I just wanted to...

I hated it, but I also wanted to live that life at the same time. There was something disgusting about it, but it pulled you in 100%. The movie makes no sense. We should just get out. I mean, it's, it is. But to open with a chorus line, to me is just like,

it's a dream come true. I'm gonna say something that is perhaps not controversial at all and has maybe been said a million times before, but I did not know because I have never seen this movie before. This movie is Showgirls. I was thinking about this movie too and I also felt like the reason why Stallone directed it because I feel like he was also trying to make it like Rocky too. It's Dance Rocky. Yeah, Dance Rocky.

Dance Rocky. Very rarely. It also just Rocky. Yeah, Dance Rocky. Yeah. But I said- Dance Rocky. Very rarely. I said very- It also just failed on Broadway, I believe. It did. It closed very quickly. I was like, very rarely do I know that I'm gonna love

a movie from the first, literally the first second. Oh yeah. In this movie. You can't beat it. I mean, here, this is just so you get a chance to see what the first- I would honestly be okay with playing the whole movie. If you were like, oh, let me just so you get a chance to see what the... I would honestly be okay with playing the whole movie.

If you were like, oh, let me just show you one second, and then we just watch the whole movie. This is only 20 seconds, but you'll get a sense of how electric the opening is. You're gonna want it longer. You will come at second seven. Here we go. One, two, three.

I'm in love. I'm in. I'm 100% in. And I'm done. This is the opening of the movie. Because it's how you want to see dance movies. It's how you want to see a dance movie in tight close-ups. Every step-up movie can suck a dick because it does not start like that. They also did the thing where there's an audition sequence and it lasts

10 seconds and the director's gonna be like, we'll let you know tomorrow. It's just like, dun dun, dun dun. That's it? Okay, goodbye. Well, okay, so if we can, well, should we dive in? Yeah, please. Okay, because in that sequence, they choose the girls right there, because they cut a lot of girls and they choose their girls and then the guys come out and John Travolta comes out and the director says, I'm gonna need 24 hours. And I'll let you all know. Also, the director of this, just interesting to note, Kurt Wood Smith, who clearly, I did a little bit of research, was just in Rambo with Stallone, so I'm sure he was like,

we'll get him in as the choreographer with no lines. Well, I was confused from the beginning because I wasn't clear, even from this opening chorus line sequence, like what his problem as, or Achilles heel as a dancer was. Like what was holding him back that he wanted to... Himself. But in what way? No, no, no.

Because was he, he was going off on his own and improvising. Yes. Improvising. Wait, no, no, no. Yes, he was improvising. I only have a couple more seconds. Wait, oh, so wait, his improvisation, I thought he just couldn't catch the breaks.

I didn't get that he was improvising. No, people keep getting cut, people keep getting cut. It gets down to like the final few guys, and then he jumps off and does a couple of like, doodly-doos on his own. And the next time, doodly-doos, I was the dancer. And the next time he's caught and he's like, oh, God damn it, uh, uh.

But he learns a very important lesson and does the exact same thing in the finale and wins the movie. That's... Woo! Can I say something about his character journey? And I don't know if I can articulate this correctly. Can I say something about his character journey? And I don't know if I can articulate this correctly.

So there's this new hot thing that he's into and then there's his girlfriend, this poor woman. This poor woman. She is. To call her a girlfriend is being generous. Really generous. She is the doormat that he is, like, booty calling when booty calling meant, can I find a payphone?

And is the person literally home to answer a landline? He was literally fucking a girl, finishes fucking her, and then calls the other girl. I was like, hey, can I come over to you? No. Yeah. So he keeps having arguments with both of the women. And it seems like it's a story about a character that's, you know, he wants something but he's demanding it from two people and

he has to learn his lesson. Like, that's what it seems like. But I don't know that Sylvester Stallone was in on that. You know what I mean? Yes. Like, it almost felt like if Sylvester Stallone were to give a log line of this movie, it would be like, oh, these two broads are giving him a hard time, you know? Right.

Like, right. He just wants to dance, and these bitches be weighing him down. Well, no, by the way, I think you're right, because not to cut ahead, but the last line of the movie. Oh, wait, yo, you're gonna get into that? No, I know that's far ahead, but I think he's gonna start. I love that you all reacted like, well, don't spoil it.

That last line of the movie is a treasure chest that needs to be opened. But in terms of his journey, he's by himself at the end, just simply strutting. So that is his journey. It's not really about fixing any of his flaws or being a better man. No, it's about learning to tell everybody to fuck off

and just do his own shit. But, wait, wait, but the crazy thing is, is like, I do believe it was directed, Stallone wrote this movie, as he writes every movie, and apparently he wrote it, and, is this the movie where they wanted to take his name off it? No, that's the next movie. But Stallone wrote this movie, but I feel like he wrote it from his perspective of like,

I like the fuck girls and if they can't get behind me fucking multiple girls. This is literally what happens at the end of the movie. He's in the final dance number. He has ascended through the ranks to be the lead of, I don't know what this is on Broadway. I don't know if this is a show that exists on Broadway. I love Broadway. I've seen so many Broadway shows. I don't know. I've never heard of Satan's Alley. This is some sort of nonsense. This is like some sort of moog fantasy, jazz nightmare. I don't know.

Was this ever a thing? I mean, was it now? Were there plays like this? It was called Satan's Alley, right? Yes. But this was like a Showgirls show. It looked like a Showgirls review. The dancing is just like sped up voguing, Madonna voguing. It's like,

Yeah. A lot of fanning each other's faces. And by the way, the same dancing from the opening is in the end. There's no, they're not like, oh, that show is different. They're all the same show. Yeah. He ascended in the end. There's no, they're not like, oh, that show is different. That's- They're all the same show. Yeah. He ascended through the ranks.

He's already triumphed. He shamed the dumb guy who danced like a robot. He's the lead. His mom is so proud. But what he has to do in order to truly succeed is take the British girl who is his partner in the show, throw her in the garbage. That happens. It happens.

He picks her up and throws her away. Then you think, okay, he's choosing his girl, he's choosing the fuck buddy, and he's like, all right, babe, I love you, I love you. And she's like, we did it. And he's like, yeah. And he basically facepalms her down. And he's like, I'm fucking out of here.

Kicks open the door. Ba-da-ba-ba-doo, doo-doo-doo. Well, here's the thing. Ba-da-ba-ba-doo. I win. and he's like, I'm fucking out of here. Kicks open the door. Ba da ba ba doo. Ba da ba ba doo. Ba da ba ba doo. I win. I was looking at, I was looking to Satan's Alley to see if it would provide some insight.

Like if Satan's Alley was going to be, if he was going to have a similar journey as a character in Satan's Alley. Yep. Well he is a Christ-like figure. Did you the character in Satan's Alley. Yep. Well, he is a Christ-like figure. Did you make sense of Satan's Alley? Okay. June thought it was a beautiful play.

I love Satan's Alley. I thought the book was great. If you go back to the source material. But see, the thing with Satan's Alley is that he starts off as, I think a Christ-like figure. And there are all these demons coming after him. Oh for sure, he's whipped, he's in a Christ-like pose at one point, yep.

And then Satan comes to get him. Which is Fiona Hughes, right? Yes, she's from General Hospital. And she, but see then he pushes her away, and that was a move that he, you know, improvised himself. But then at the end they still end up together. No, he ends up, no he's now. Wait, wait, wait, at the end of Satan's Alley.

At the end of Satan's Alley. Oh, I apologize, I apologize, yes. At the end of Satan's Alley. So this is a Satan's Alley kind of talk right now. I do think, and I'm not trying to give Sylvester Stallone credit here, but I do think that if we look at Satan's Alley as sort of a microcosm of what the whole movie was... Which we should be.

Okay. I think he ended up, you know, in hell with the devil and didn't learn anything. No, he doesn't. If he had... This is what I think. Go ahead. If he had learned anything, instead of reaching out to her, he would have pulled up Jackie to take that solo.

Great, and I love that. But he is rising up out of hell and casts his hand down. I'm listening, I'm listening. Casts his hand down and says, jump. The, the, Christ offers his hand to the devil and says, follow me to heaven and I will take you out of hell. She is doubtful. She's a doubting Thomas.

She jumps and makes it in her arms. He thrusts her over her head because Christ wants the devil to get to heaven before him. Because Christ turns the other cheek. He forgets about it, but because he'll take the devil. The biblical allegory here is very obvious. By the way, the audience, the audience seeing this very, very modern dance show is all oldies. There's nothing in that, and they give him a rousing, like a standing ovation. My biggest question about Satan's Alley as a show is

they do the first number. And it seems to me that we see all the cast out on stage in that first number. Then they all kind of take a break after that first number, and they're like, you, you, you did, you fucked up. You go over here. Like, what was going on on stage? It wasn't the intermission yet.

The intermission is a later beat. I just was confused about where the show, what was happening. Well, that was, that the, on stage in those scenes were the B story of Satan's Alley. Which, what's happening there? Is Jackie the star of that? Oh, I wish Jackie was.

I loved Jackie. I loved Jackie. Well, here's what's weird too about that production of Satan's Alley. The director, when he casts him as, you know, Jesus Christ, says essentially, like, I need you to channel your anger and your fury and your emotions,

and then when he does, he says you just need to dance the dance. Which I found confusing. All right. Good point. Also, it seemed like the director was given this huge monologue at the end, as though he was a character we knew at all.

We also didn't know this person? The only way I knew that director was that he dressed like Zod from Superman 2. And that he might have just been a villain from another realm coming here to fuck with New York City. Before he attacks Superman, he's like, I'll direct the Broadway show, get in Metropolis's headspace, and then I'm gonna do a bigger thing.

Right now, he just needs to regain some power. And Jackie's haircut is a little bit like the lady in that movie as well. Yes. Zod's lady short hair. Yes, thank you. Is that the blonde lady? Who I had a friend who was her stepmom

and she said she was a real bitch. Can I take us back to a moment? Go ahead. If I could take us back to a moment. There's a moment in the beginning when John Travolta has a lot of self doubt and he's looking to this poor girlfriend for like to feel better.

And he says like, you know, I just, you gotta, I can't remember what he says, but he's feeling bad and she's making him feel better. And then he's like, don't and he says like you know I just you got I can't remember what he says but he's feeling bad she's making feel better and then she he's like don't you ever want to like do more like push yourself harder and she says something along the lines of you know how it's different for a female dancer we have half the life male dancers do and his response is just like yeah I guess that's true and he does not make her feel. It just goes back to making him feel better. Okay, I agree because I did have a thought at one point.

Why aren't they auditioning to replace both of them? Like, she's helping him practice to get the solo or to get the lead part. Like, why isn't... Why don't they both go up there together? I do also want to just talk about the bigger concept on all of this. Because this character is a stalker at points. He's a chauvinist, always. He's an adulterer, I guess, or he's a cheater. Like, he's everything bad,

but he's definitely not the character from Saturday Night Fever, right? We all agree to that, right? Can I? Go ahead, Kate. I don't, well, just the, when you talked about the ending of the movie when he struts to the song from Saturday Night Fever,

and it's like, oh yeah, this is supposed to be from that movie, and that's it. Well, that, like, the other two, well, he walks by the Odyssey, because that's where he used to dance all the time, and it's a gay club. But remember that at the end of Saturday Night Fever, they rape that girl in the car

and someone jumps off a bridge. Yes. So like, that kind of darkness and weirdness is still woven in here. But like you did not leave Saturday Night Fever going, oh, that man wants to be a modern dancer on Broadway. No. That was not green.

It was just like, oh, he's a good dancer and it lets him like get out of his, like his life is troubled and girls are getting raped and friends are jumping off bridges and he can at least go to the club and live a little bit. It wasn't like. I will say this. Like, get out of his, like, his life is troubled, then girls are getting raped, and friends are jumping off bridges, and he can at least go to the club and live a little bit. It wasn't like... I will say this.

I was a solid 30 minutes into the movie before I realized this was the same character from Saturday Night Fever. Well, he also has lost his accent, and they make it like, well, now he's in Manhattan. Manhattan is, like, over the bridge. Like, he says at one point, he's like, hey, I don't got apple pie., now he's in Manhattan. Manhattan is like over the bridge. Like, he says it one point, he's like, hey, I don't got apple pie.

It's like this in Manhattan. It's like, you walked here. Okay, can we talk about that? You walked from the other spot. Can we talk about that? Because he's at home, he goes home, he has doubts. He goes home, he wants to see his ma, and they're sitting there eating breakfast,

which is pie. And she's trying to push, have another slice of pie. And he's like, I don't want another slice of pie. Have another slice of pie, I don't want another slice of pie. And it's this weird, and she's kind of pushing it on him. And it's that weird scene that I feel like, like a mom of an anorexic is trying to get the anorexic

to eat a little bit more. And it's weird. And then, then he finally is like, I will have another piece of pie, and he picks up the pie plate and brings it into frame and there's only one piece left, which means they've eaten a whole pie for breakfast. That's how they do it in Brooklyn.

Which I thought was very insane. Okay, so I think I missed something really important. I left the movie still not understanding where she made her money. Who? Laura. Laura. Oh, you're right. That was her answer.

I agree 100%. Yeah, Laura is Fiona Hughes from General Hospital, and General Hospital is wearing fur coats, being driven around in limousines. Whose limo is this? He's a limo. Yeah, Laura is Fiona Hughes from General Hospital and General Hospital is wearing fur coats being driven around in limousines. Whose limo is this? Whose limo is this? Does anybody know whose limo this is?

It's never answered. Never answered. There's like the go- there's the sugar daddy looking guy, right, who they- he runs into that guy. She's clearly been with the director, but then at one point- the director, by the way, is all beard and leather jackets. Really is that I have no problem with that. No problem with that. I was like, that's the part I maybe would have got.

But I did feel like then there's somebody says a line that they think she has money. Her she came from money or something. She came from money. So there are a couple of things posited, but I don't know. And I agree, it's ridiculous because her wealth obsesses him. But modern dance, you would make a lot of money in modern dance. Like, yeah, I mean, you'd make hundreds of thousands of dollars a week.

She's still alive. I gotta say though, Paul, I don't know that they're doing modern dance. Well, I don't know much about dance. What are they doing? It felt, to me, more like jazz. Oh. Jazz? How much do you know about dance, then?

I don't know a ton about dance, but I think modern dance is a lot more... You know more about dance than you do about gorillas, for example. I think so. I just thought it was more... You keep on calling it modern. Okay, it calling it modern. I think it's more, I just don't think those head shakes are, that seems like very jazzy. Without getting too out of control, does this thing have a name? Audience?

Contemporary? Contemporary. Contemporary. All right. Contemporary dance? Like if you saw this now, would it be a valid art form? Like I think when, here's the thing, I think when people are like, all of the dance numbers, at least in the auditions, were like five, six, seven, eight,

and then like a line of people would run up to the stage. Like, I think that running is like all, I think that's jazz though. I don't think that's modern. Okay. Well, we'll all clearly never know. Okay.

It felt, to me, those were the scenes that I was like, this feels like a Vegas show to me. This is what Vegas should... Yes. That's why I felt like it was Showgirls, because all of the show elements felt that kind of cheesy and Vegas-y. Yes.

Nothing delighted me more than imagining Stallone approve all the costumes he was wearing. Do you think that, like, Stallone and Bob Mackie sat down and he's like, not this, yes to this? Yeah, yeah. I would love to have seen that meeting. Apparently Stallone and Travolta worked for a year and a half on all the dancing.

Oh. A year and a half. I mean, there was a lot of dancing. Yeah, I mean it shows. It makes sense, yeah. Can we talk about the scene in the movie early on where Travolta is, you know, he's dancing, he's teaching dance classes at, like, an Arthur Miller kind of dance school.

He's also, like, a waiter in a dance club. And he turns down a three-way with two new wave girls? Yes. I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, guy. When two new wave girls? Yes. I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, guy. When two new wave girls are like, we want to take you home tonight, you go home with the two new wave girls. This was my favorite part.

They wanted so much to show how much he hated being a waiter and how much he wanted to be a dancer. He was the angriest waiter ever. There was a point a patron bumped into him and he was like, oh, oh, oh. And a woman said something like, I like watching you walk. And he basically was like, fuck you.

Like, it was crazy. Angry guy, he's an angry guy. Walking is his thing. There's no two movies built on watch strutting. I'm sorry, you're right, you're right, you're right. But look, he didn't want to go home with those new wave girls because as he said verbatim, I almost got brain damage because you two party too hard.

Please, come on. But no, he wouldn't cheat. That's what I think it makes, like, in Stallone's mind, he's like, he's a good guy because he won't fuck these new wave girls. He'll only fuck really good dancers. Like, he's like, when he Cheats, he only cheats up. Well, that's what was so weird about his relationship with Jackie.

At one point I thought, because he forgets to call her to meet her, I mean, a million times in the movie. A million times. He treats her like human garbage. Yeah, well, so much so that at one point I thought, I think he is genuinely forgetting. Like, I think that he's just like, like, it. Yeah, well, so much so that at one point I thought, I think he is genuinely forgetting.

Like, I think that he's just like... Like, it's not even like, oh, I got caught up and I, you know, I knew, I did lost track of time, I thought I was gonna get to you. Like, I think he's like not remembering what all that she exists. Like... That, like, to me, like, that was my...

I thought that too, like, it took me half the movie to realize that they were even boyfriend girlfriend. They're not, they're not, they are fuck buddies. I thought they were. No, but Jason, she says I love you too. And the toll he says I love you in the middle of the movie, they are just like hooking up. But he gets mad when she's looking at Frank Sinatra.

Yeah, he's jealous. She gets mad and she gets mad. He's like fucking the British girl, who for a very brief period of time I thought was Niles his wife from free Perry Gilpin, oh, is it Perry Gilpin? Yeah. Yeah. Oh Jane Lee. Sorry Perry Gilpin was Ross But then but to your point like he literally just fucks that girl, the British girl, and then calls up the other one, but then it's like, it's kind of like a booty call, but

then he also... But he doesn't go. But he kind of is just making sure she's alone. He's like, he's like, is anybody there next to you? She says no. He goes, okay, good, goodbye. You're right. There's a, when he first meets the hot fancy lady. He looks to his girlfriend

Sorry, I Requested that music follow that I'm okay with that running under the whole show. I Hear that loop. Yeah to me this he's like a sociopath He's talking to his girlfriend this poor poor woman, when he sees the fancy lady and he immediately says to her, he's like, she with anyone? And the girl is like, what? And then she says, I don't want to hear about this stuff. Yeah. And then he's like, I just think she's a great dancer. Don't worry. You're good. So horrible. Like to me, this movie, he's a monster. Like, you're redeemable on every level, irredeemable.

Like his girlfriend helps him, helps him get the lead in this show. And he like you said, he fucking facepalms with like, get out, need to go out this by myself tonight, I'm celebrating with this guy. Oh, oh. And anytime, anytime another guy shows interest in her, he like shits his pants.

Yeah. Like when the guy from the band comes in, is with her, he's like, who's this? He's a musician? You with a musician? Are you kidding? Like, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. On the hierarchy, we're ranking dancers above musicians? That's what I wrote,. Worst line dancers. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

I don't think that's how it works. And then she goes, he's a rhythm guitarist. Oh, that's the worst. A rhythm guitarist is the worst. But it's not true. That is not true. The horn section is the worst. Hehehehe. Wait, now here's my question about Frank Stallone's amazing role in this movie as the

rhythm guitar, as the singer. Okay, there's so much, I want to talk about a couple things. Sorry, I'm going to jump around. I didn't get what Laura's job was. So Laura was on Broadway, but also a singer? Yeah. No, you're speaking of Jackie. Oh, sorry, Jackie.

So she was on Broadway wanting to be a dancer, but- Well, I think- She's in a show. She's in a show, the show that he goes to watch. Right, but he's also like, I need to also- Because, I think, to Katie's point, she understands that a dancer's shelf life is very short. So she's trying to get some other ladies.

She's trying to cultivate a fallback career. Yeah, that's right. Well, if this career life as a dancer doesn't work out, then I'll be a rock star. Great. Got it. Also- Very logical. By the way, I got to say she's killing it at both.

She is great in the movie. I'm on board for it. Well, do you want to see who also is in the movie? I want to point this out to you. She is wearing, though, like a corporate 80s outfit. She's dressed like Hillary Clinton. This is a little of her singing. Which every song in this movie is

showed from beginning to end in real time. If you took out the dancing, this movie would be about 17 minutes. And every single song that is sung in its entirety is so relevant to the events of the movie that it had to have been written that day to make sense. Like, every song is so specific, there's no subtext. It's just a textual analysis of the events of the movie. Put to music.

That is why Frank Stallone is so good. Here, I have- Only Frank Stallone can begin a movie with a song whose opening line is, this is the end. Ha ha ha. I wanna come back to this at the end, but I also want to, I have two blow your mind cameos. The first one, you can't see it at home,

but you in the audience can see it. Check out who's also in the band. Oh, Richie Sambora. Yeah! Right over there on the left. Or right. That is literally Rich you sing. He asked her to come here during the middle of the song. She does, she does, she does.

She leaves the stage. She leaves the song. She leaves the stage mid-song to see him. Ladies, ladies, learn a lesson from this movie. She has no self-worth. Travolta, who is not her exclusive boyfriend, is able to beckon her from the stage during a song she is singing.

She jumps down happily in order to have a conversation with him. And it's not the end of the song. It's clearly not the end. Oh, no. Can I just say, her low point to me is in the final performance, he tries to kiss the fancy woman.

And she punches him in the eye. And how humiliating it is for the girlfriend. And he walks off stage, I swear to God, she goes, is your eye okay? That's why I feel like Stallone is writing this as, he's like, yeah, this is how women should be. This is like, he's like, like he, this is so clearly from his point of view. I just need some filler here. What would you say? What's weird too is in the context of the movie like what does the fancy lady Laura want? Like

what does she want out of all this? Satan's all over. She's like she's like Gina Gershon in showgirls She just is she is the villain of the movie I feel like like she has a very strange role. She is the challenge to him or I Couldn't they're meeting of him bursting into her dressing room. Yes, I mean and like antagonizing her and like she then becomes the thing he has to conquer or whatever. And then it turns into you think it's gonna be a love story, but then like it all falls apart. And you find out that he's dating someone else. You find out he's dating someone else, but here's what's weird about the movie.

And I'd say this for John Travolta too, like everybody is constantly like shitting on people they wanna be with and then inviting them to places after rehearsals or performances. Like, that to me was the entire movie. We just fucked. Get over it. Come over to my house tonight. We're gonna have cocktails. Okay? Yeah. There's a lot of, like, invitations

and then people not showing up for those events. There's a lot of mid-scene emotional reversals. You know, like, like, like, coming at it one way, and then I'm gonna come at this a whole different way. Because arguably you would argue if they kept the Tony Manero from Saturday Night Fever. He is dating a girl from Brooklyn who wants him to work for her dad's shop

or something like that. And she's like, give up your dream. You'll never make it as a dancer. And then he meets Fiona Hughes, and she's like, give up your dream. You'll never make it as a dancer. And then he meets Fiona Hughes, and she's tough, but she's got it, and she kind of drives him to become himself. But technically, he just has a girl who's like, yeah, go for your dreams.

And another one's like, fuck you, you're a piece of shit. And he's like, I like that one. I like the fuck you go, the piece of shit girl. He goes for the opposite girl. Well, it's also weird, because you see him really, like, going for his dreams and he'll knock on any door, even the Times Square agent. So good.

Times Square agent. But then, but then when like, but then he's so obsessed with this idea of like people doing him favors, like he doesn't want to get into any of the shows because someone put in a good word for him. Which seems like, well, you know, use whatever connections you have. Wait, did that ever become, I can't remember, did that become an issue? Did he find out she put in a good word for him or anything? Because it felt like it was set up for them. I think he did, like in the stairwell or something like that. A lot happened in that stairwell. I don't know.

I thought he found out that she put a good one. This production team only had the stairwell for like a good month of this whole filming. My favorite thing about the stairwells is there's like a big emotional scene and then the camera just rises up and just catches like the director at the top of the stairwell like watching the entire thing.

I heard it all. But that doesn't even really come into play. It rises up, and you see, like, 10 minutes of leather. And then the beginnings of a beard. Up his trench coat. Oh, speaking of coats, guys, do we like the homage to... He takes out the old Saturday Night Fever jacket. He's like, this is old. And then he puts on like a Miami, he makes like a Miami Vice jacket.

And it's just like, oh that's sad, that other thing was so fond. He wrecked the one thing that is like Superman, again to go back to Superman, because I also believe that whose bedroom, oh whose bedroom looked like a Superman set, like when they like showed the, oh her bedroom, Fiona's bedroom, didn't it bedroom looked like a Superman set? Like when they showed the bell, her bedroom. Fiona's bedroom, wasn't it all silver and stuff like that? Oh no, that was- Oh, rhinestone. Rhinestone.

Sorry. No, hers was silver too. There was something going on. There was two willow trees on each side. And just a circular. What were they talking about? Like Fiona in the whole movie? In general?

Because it's a legit question applied to the whole movie. What were they talking about? Because they literally, they literally, there's a montage of them just like walking through New York, chatting. It's like these two people have nothing to say to each other. They in fact have previously had only contempt for each other. Although he did say to her, after kind of like, all of his come-on lines didn't work,

and she slammed the door in his face, and he opened the door back up because he will not take no for an answer. He says, the thing is, I respect your dancing talent and I respect your womanhood. What does that mean? What does he mean when he says that? Your womanhood.

What is that? That she can have babies and she has different organs in him. I mean, I don't know. I think what he was trying to say is like, I respect you as a colleague, but I also respect you in a romantic way as well. Yeah.

Like, I respect, like, your skills and all that, but I want you to know I also respect what you're giving me just right here. To me, it feels like, it's almost like, I respect that you're weaker and trying your best. And, like, I won't you're weaker in trying your best. And like, I won't take advantage. Right, like I-

And you have a limited shelf life as a dancer. I respect your talent. I also respect your womanhood and how it lessens your talent. Uh. Well see, to me it would have made more sense if she had been like a by the book dancer. Like if she had been like someone who, you you know was obsessed with all the counts and all like the steps and he was coming in and being all loosey goosey

But was all passion and I feel like that's what her being British was part of that Okay, I feel like still on was like her being British. Everybody's gonna think she's uptight and fancy She's gonna think she's uptight and fancy. Yeah, that's exactly what your character is. Well, he literally doesn't even say that as a line. He's like, oh, it's her accident. It makes her so smart. Like, you know, like he's so blown away by that. But it doesn't, but nothing makes sense.

She says to Jackie, I mean, you're right. He does tell Jackie, like, basically I'm in love with this other woman. Yes. He cannot stop talking about her. How they just gonna be. How they just gonna be. Can I show you guys just for a second

my favorite scene in the movie? This is when Travolta finds out that he got it. He got the part. Here it is right here. So he's living in a flop house. We should set it up a tiny bit. He lives in a gentleman's hotel. So that is like a...

Where he beats his wife beaters in the shower, keeping them clean. And all, it's like, it's populated by bums, basically. He basically, yeah, lives in a flop house. Meanwhile, he can walk home at any point, he can live with his parents, no problem. Nope, he's gotta live in Manhattan. Have two jobs.

And so he's pacing around in the common room where all the weirdos who also live there are sitting around. He's waiting for the phone to ring. This is just after the phone. He's waiting for the phone to ring, and it finally does, and this is him celebrating that he got the part. Oh, wait. Do you have the phone call itself? I believe so, yes. Here we go.

I want you to really just pay attention to the pace of this phone call. Also, I know it's tough to imagine, but he's literally holding a radio in his hand like a cell phone. That's not a phone that he's on. He's just really grooving out to music that close to his ear. So here we go.

Don't touch that phone! Get it! Get it! Yes, yes, Tony Manero. Are you kidding? Hold on a second. Turn it... Turn down the radio! Yes, I got it. You're kidding me.

Wait a second. I just... If he... If he says turn down the radio, what was it... So he has a radio in his hand that's not operating as a phone or the overall radio? No, that radio was the radio he needed to be turned down. His radio, which was playing Frank Stallone music, which was the same song that he saw the night before. There's no delineation.

Frank Stallone, I guess, is very popular. The macro music for the scene, the soundtrack music for the scene, is revealed in that phone call section to be diegetic to the scene itself. Right? I used that right, right? Yeah, I think you did. I don't even know if that was right or wrong.

So he's holding, like, a speaker? What is he holding? He's, like, holding a radio, like, a trade Mr. Radio. Okay. I still don't understand. But he says the other person on the other line has had no opportunity to say any words. And he says, hello? Yes, this is Tony Manero. Hold on a second. Turn down the radio. What? I got it? I can't believe it.

And then all at once. Uh, the... And the other... Just talking about songs and music purveying, Uh, the... And the other... Just talking about songs and music purveying, this is the thing that blew my mind. This was? This is the...

Because it's so kind of big... Okay, the movie opens with that amazing Frank Stallone song. And it looks like he is choreographing a dance to that song for a play that's not Satan's Alley. The finale song of Satan's Alley is the same song from the beginning. Like, you would think... That they were auditioning for Satan's Alley.

Or that you would just say, like, let's do a different song. Like, let's not bookend the movie with the same song. It's two very different parts, right? I mean, is that weird or do I do that? I would love to hear you talking about this with Sylvester Stallone during production. Do you know what I mean? We can't replay your brother's songs four times.

The song is good. It's all moog arpeggios and a sweeping sound. It's perfect. Plus, it says, this is the end, so it should be at the end too. But I really feel like they should have kept that song for the end. It would have had like an impact,

but to open and close with it in two dancing scenes that are unrelated to each other is weird. That scene also to me is so like a glimpse of like the worst. It just, it seems like to me it's like a story of like the average monster in Los Angeles. Do you know what I mean? Like I don't root for that person. Like I don't know.

No. Him, if I saw that, if I was sitting in that room and some guy was pacing because he was obsessed with like getting this moment of fame, like, and just pacing and scre... I don't know. I would just be like, this is a lunatic. I wrote down... I wrote down, is this guy sympathetic? He's not.

Oh, no. Oh, heavens no. Oh, heavens no. Even when he tries to go home and apologize to his mother and be like, I acted like an asshole. I want to apologize, she's like, fuck you. She's basically like, fuck you, don't apologize. Being a bastard is what got you out of this neighborhood. And he goes, so you're telling me being a bastard

is what's going to get me ahead? She's like, yep. And he's like, okay, no lessons to learn here. I guess... I have to say it, I would have also... Behaving like a piece of shit is gonna be my MO. Or I think it would have even been sympathetic to see that he loved to dance. Like, I never really felt like, I mean...

He says it. Well, then there you go. But I feel like... No, but this is more of like a, he wants fame. He wants fame. He does. Like there's no no that's like the jerk part of him. That's just like I'm in it for the art Like he just wants the fame of it all the fame of being a Broadway dancer Because even when because his contemporary dance Yeah contemporary success isn't enough like he succeeds and gets in the show. That's awesome. But then he has to challenge the lead of the show

to become the lead of the show. That's not even enough. He then has to throw away the female lead to improvise a solo which gets a standing ovation. Which, by the way, I still feel like, you know, just his trajectory as a dancer after this movie, I know he did his str as a dancer after this movie, I know he did his strut and everything,

but I don't think he'll work again. Like, he... Yeah, he didn't do any of it for her. He's gonna be clearly kicked out of a union. The union will not let that happen. He shoves his other lead across the stage and dances by himself. Like, that's crazy.

There's no reason for it, because you would argue, like, okay. Like, when he first starts dancing with her, she doesn't trust him. And then they show in the rehearsal footage that, with a very long rehearsal footage, literally the last half hour is all dancing, that she starts to come over to his side. And then in the show, they seem to be working together as a team.

And at that point, he's like, get the fuck out of here. It's not like she doesn't betray him on stage besides punching him after she kisses him. No, she doesn't. No, no, I think the reason he chucks her is because in the middle of the show, she says, you don't have it. Oh, right.

She says, you don't have it. And I feel like the chucking her was his way of being like, I'll show you. But if you think about it, I think correctly, he is the villain of the movie. Yes, so true. So whose movie is it? Whose movie is it then?

Jackie the star? Jackie is, yes, Jackie should be the protagonist. So maybe like when he walks out the door at the end and announces that he has to strut, she's finally free. She can move on with her life? But in fact, will probably kill herself. Just kidding, she'll be in Flashdance, it's fine. Did you guys, what'd you guys think of Patrick Swayze?

Boom, in the movie. He was in the movie right here, of Patrick Swayze. Whoo! Boom. In the movie. Is he in the movie? What? He was in the movie right here. Oh, my God. You can check him out. Patrick Swayze is a background dancer

who is dressed in a weird half-shirt with white suspenders. He played the Oompa Loompa. Looking like a glistening Corey Feldman. Here's what's weird about this movie is that there is something so inherently sympathetic about a chorus line dancer. Like what they're put through and having to learn. I mean there's also something so... Somebody should write a play about that.

But truly like they're cut right away. You would never catch on. Truly like you automatically sympathize with these people. So you do have to go a long way to make him unsympathetic. And they do. And they do. And they succeed very quickly. Anyone?

I had, I caught something that I don't know if you caught. I think if we're going to the same place, are we going to the same place? Right before the show starts? Oh, yep, got it. Please. Are you going to play it or do you have it? I don't have it as a, but yeah.

And I only caught it because I happened to be watching the movie with subtitles on or whatever. So I read it because otherwise I would not have caught it. I had to rewind it because, wait a second. Okay, so they're going around being like five minutes or whatever, two minutes to show or whatever, okay? Bah bah bah bah bah bah. And then somebody, a bunch of people run through frame

and somebody goes, yo, hey yo, Adrian, show time. Yo, Adrian, show time, amazing. Yo, Adrian, show time.. Yo, Adrian Showtime. I also wanna- Fuck this movie. Did you guys also catch during intermission when it had gone so well, I guess the first half of the show, they sort of did a,

or maybe it was after the show and the audience was giving standing ovations and they sort of panned over all of the dancers in the dressing room celebrating and one dancer just threw her bra on all of the dancers in the dressing room celebrating, and one dancer just threw her bra on top of the other dancer's face? Did that happen?

Did anybody? Yes, like a gigantic bra. I couldn't tell if someone. Wait, how gigantic? I couldn't tell if someone had thrown it on her or if she had taken and thrown it on her own face. Like, see, it was so strange. And what kind of ridiculous movie do I not even notice that?

You know what I mean? Like, that just wasn't even a thing. Like any normal movie, I'd be like, what the fuck? But that didn't even, like, pass through my brain. Yeah. Maybe that's a dance thing. At the end of a successful show, everybody put your bra on your head.

I do have a question about Broadway stuff again, and I'm opening it up to all of you. In a Broadway show, does the director or choreographer stand in the booth at the lighting tech and go, give me a spotlight now, bring down the lights, give me a wash? Like he was calling... That's the role of a stage manager.

Yeah, but he was calling it as if he was improvising it, too. He's like, spotlight now. Now give it a spotlight. He was like creating it on the spot. Like it was, that was the most insane thing I've ever seen. Like to give him a role. Like that would have been done in tech long ago. Nothing in this movie, like you see an hour of rehearsals and nothing would have prepared

you for this final show because nothing links up to anything you saw beforehand. There's not like, you know, not to go dirty dancing, but there's not like one move you're worried about or there's nothing you're connected to. There's no conflict. I mean, really, there's no conflict. The only thing that happens is like, he's a guy who can't catch a break, he catches a break and he was right all along. Like, I mean, like, there was no, like,

he's like, if only I caught a break, then I'd be the biggest hit on Broadway. He catches a break and he's the biggest hit on Broadway. Like, nothing really happens. No. What happens is he happens to all the other people in the movie. The conflict is between those poor people

and this sociopath that is ruining their lives. His mother is like, how did he learn to do this? What? Nobody cares about him. So John Travolta is quoted as saying that Stallone is his favorite director because he knew how to make him look best on screen. So fuck you, Quentin Tarantino.

I will say he looks super hot in this movie. His body was rockin' insane. There you go. Then you guys agree. So best director. Here are the two taglines of the movie. I just want to read them because they're pretty fucking amazing. That was rockin' insane. Yeah. There you go, then you guys agree. So best director. That was amazing. Here are the two taglines of the movie. I just wanna read them because they're pretty fucking amazing.

This is the tagline of how they sold the movie. Tony Manero knows the old days are over, but no one's gonna tell him he can't feel that good again. See, that's interesting. Hey bro, you gonna see Stayin' Alive, man? Ah, well, I don't know, what's interesting. Hey, bro. Hey, bro. You gonna see Stayin' Alive Man? Well, I don't know.

What's it about? Oh, dude. Well, the tagline says it all. Here's another one. It's five years later for Tony Manero, and the fever still burns. That's like... That one is really upsetting. See a doctor.

Like... I saw the movie, I just didn't feel like the fever was still burning. Yeah, gosh, oh gosh. Well, I feel like this might be a good time to talk to everybody in the audience, because I'm sure I see people with sheets of paper out here. You guys have questions. We'll probably have some answers for them.

While you get ready and walk out, I have a request for you guys or the internet nerds. There's a lot of slow-mo dancing, where everybody's faces look like sex faces. Everybody's dancing faces are horrible looking. You know, while you're talking about it. Oh, you got one? While you're talking about it, I'll just play it. So if somebody could make a super cut

of all of the gross, slow-mo sex faces. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, there... Jackie is hot. Look at him. Oh, yeah. Good one. Jackie is hot. Look at him, oh yeah. He's, ugh. This is them just hanging out too. She is a badass. Yeah, she's cool.

Jackie is a fucking badass. She's my favorite person in this whole entire movie. I wanna see a spinoff with Jackie. Yeah. But yeah, this- She married Richard Marks. Oh, really? Yeah. Well, that'll be interesting.

She did like, she has like seven credits, and then married Richard Marks, and then they got a divorce. She got that sweet Marks money. She got them Marks books. Anybody have any questions, things that we might have missed? Okay, okay. I'm going to go to you, because you have a sheet of paper in your hand. Oh, both of you have sheets of paper.

Okay. Your name, your one word review of Satan's Alley in your question, here we go. My name is Wren. My one word review of Satan's Alley is what the director said, perfect. Right. Love it.

Here we go, what's your question? So I came from Warsaw, Indiana to ask June this question. Wow, Warsaw, Indiana, here you go June, you might get shot. I'm terrified. So at the end of this movie, between the oiled up John Travolta, very muscular, and Jim Varney from Ernest Goes to Jail.

No, let me finish. Let me finish. Which one of those two is more, as you would say, oozing sexuality? Great question from Indiana. The question to June, who oozes more sexuality? See, I think you know the answer. Jim Varney, I'll be right back.

What's that? Is that real? You would take Jim Varney, Ernest, over like the perfection of Travolta at this era. This is what you have to understand. I agree that Travolta looks better in this movie. Of course he does. But the sexuality that I'm interested in is not just about the looks. Like Varney as bad Ernest is channeling something else. It's not just about the physical for me. I feel like a woman in her 20s would choose John Travolta but a a grown woman would choose Ernie H. Meek. Be very careful. Be very careful.

I mean, Katie, say what you mean. A girl chooses John Travolta, a woman chooses him. Thank you. Would this movie have been better with Jim Varney? Not as earnest, just he got this script and he did it. What do you think? Would you like to, I think he could have done it actually. Jim Varney in the role of Tony Manero. I think Jim Varney can do anything.

Oh, he has passed. He could have done anything. Could have done anything. Okay, uh, your- I will say again, this conversation is very upsetting. Your name, a piece of advice for Tony Manero in your question. Here we go. My name's Jay.

My piece of advice is burn fire. Great. I was wondering if that's where Artie Lang got fire. Well that's from ACDC. And first I just want to know if you guys noticed that the the costume for John Travolta in the end was a precursor to the Ultimate Warrior costume of the 90s? Oh it does look like the Ultimate Warrior costume it's very similar without the face paint but if you put face paint on him Who's the Ultimate Warrior?

From WWF Oh oh oh yeah okay I knew that I'm cool with wrestling Ultimate Warrior RIP much respect Oh, oh, oh, yeah, okay. I knew that. I'm cool with wrestling. Ultimate warrior, R.I.P. Much respect. Oh, absolutely. But I also wanted to ask if you guys would give the patented How Did This Get Made offer to have this group write the movie version of Satan's Alley.

Oh, we could get into real rights problems. I mean, we could... I mean, we'd have to write it with our bodies, because there are no words in St. Zali. Well, it's one of those things that we could take the music from Frank Stallone. We could take what choreograph, what choreography we've seen in the movie, and we can extrapolate outwards and create something I bet pretty erotic like really deep. You'd have to find an actor that would shove people aside and choose his own adventure of a show. I will say I will say if you're

gonna modernize this part the only person that comes close to the, like the ferocious male magnetism and dancing capabilities is Channing Tatum. I think- Wow, now that's interesting. Magic Mike 2, Magic Mike 2, Satan's Alley, this could be it. Channing Tatum. Get out of the strip club.

Satan's Alley. Wait, I have a question about this. Okay, that show was a hit, right? Satan's Alley, got a standing ovation. Now, does every night that you do it again, does he push her out of the way? Like, do they go, well, we gotta keep that, because that's what people responded to,

or do they go back to the old way? Or does he just die? Because when he goes out the strut, he does disappear. Was he a ghost the entire time that he never exists? Did he die on stage? Amazing. He does disappear. Was he a ghost the entire time that he never exists? That he died on stage? Amazing. Like Black Swan, that was his final swiz.

I wonder if they ever had an idea to make this a trilogy and what the third movie would have been. Oh man. Breakdancing? Beat Street. Okay, what is your name? What is another title for Staying Alive 2? Or Staying Alive 1?

And what's your question? My name is Jordan. And actually, I was going to ask about the name of the movie Staying Alive. And I thought that the name should be from one of the many, many Frank Stallone songs. And so I was going to ask you guys, what do you think is the thematic significance of the title, Staying Alive, considering it has about 30 seconds of playtime at the very end of the movie? Ooh, great question.

What? Well, I'm gonna gander a guess. You gotta stay alive to get these great parts. If you kill yourself, you're never gonna be on Broadway. That's just the facts. Well, I guess I feel like it's probably just the thing that has name recognition for that character. So instead of calling it Saturday Night Fever Again, they called it Staying Alive linking the two though,

because that's the song from... How about Sunday Matinee Fever? Sunday and Wednesday Matinee Fever. Sunday Matinee Bronchitis. To me it's like trying to stay alive even with these dumb broads trying to like keep you down. That's what most movies are. Because they are life.

Alright your name, who would you cast as the lead role in this movie if you could recast it and your question, go. I'm Ronnie, I'm from Huntington Beach. I would definitely recast this role with Frank Stallone. Current day? Modern day Frank Stallone, obviously. My question is, he invited his mother to this movie with a pulp fiction-esque Gimp costume montage in this? I saw that.

I still guess. Yeah, they were all covered in leather. Well, you were just saying, is it appropriate to bring your mother to a show where there's people in Gimp costumes? Well, she has asked him not to take his clothes off, and he definitively takes his clothes off in this movie, which never gets commented. There's a lot of set up for jokes,

like here's one, he never gets a message. He asks the guy at the front desk like a dozen times, any messages? Never once does he get a message, because when the call comes, guess what? He's there. Well, I mean, there's a really funny joke in it. Like, when he's really upset, like, he gets bumped by this, like, real rich, cool Italian guy,

Sylvester Stallone. You guys remember that part? No, where was that? Wait, you don't remember that Stallone was in this movie? No. Oh, I got to play that clip. I have that clip. I missed it.

Oh, it's the best, most unnecessary cameo. How is he dressed sir? He's dressed like Craven the Hunter. That's awesome. June's gonna cue it up this is the best you'll see it. You have the sound off, so you can just have to watch. I think, there, boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom.

Boom. Boom. Boom. Blink and you miss it. Totally missed it. All right, let's see. Can I just point out the real time shooting of him going from point A to point B?

I feel like we saw him walking for 30 minutes. Everything was real time. This movie reminded me how disgusting New York was. Like, it really looked gross. All right, how are you, sir? All right, who, your piece of advice? Tony Manero, your name and your question. Here we go.

My name's Tony. My piece of advice is stop being a dick to everyone. Okay. And stop stealing my name, please. And now, Satan's Alley is also the name of the fake movie in Tropic Thunder that Robert Downey Jr.'s character is in with Tobey Maguire.

Is that movie in a movie an adaptation of this show or vice versa? Oh! Boom, mind explosion. Amazing question. Question of the night. Boom, mind explosion. Amazing question. Question of the night. The fact that anyone's raising their hand means that they can beat that?

Great observation. Wow, three positive ideas. Beat it. Okay, my question is, given that this movie was so like a 90 minute music video and so dreamlike and ended at the same note as Saturday Night Fever begins, do you think it's plausible that this movie was just a dream? Oh, is it? You're positing this is a Jacob's Ladder scenario? And then Tony just wakes up and he's like,

time to go to my job at the paint store. You know, well that actually feeds into what I think, cause he disappears. Like he literally disappears. Like that, I'm not making that up, he disappears. Did he ever exist? Well you're right though, it does feel, here's the thing, it feels at the end of the movie like he's not

Like he's not gonna return to this show. He's not gonna return to dance like he's walking into another like dimension Like it had there's a sense of like I'm leaving everything behind and I'm just gonna continue strutting Like the third movie just picks up with him walking into becoming like a beekeeper or something. Exactly, like there's gonna be no connection to what we just watched. Wait a second. What if, what if he was beamed up by the race of aliens from battlefield earth and he starts a whole new planet. That may be, this may be a prequel to Battlefield Earth.

They were watching Earth and were like, he is clearly its highest form. He showed all those rat brains what dance is for. He renounced all of the weaker sex and succeeded only on his own. We will take him. Now Ron Hubbard demands it. Sir, you have a question?

I wanted to address the, I have feelings for the Bee Gees. They wrote like five or six new songs and yet all their songs are kind of used in all the wimpy dialogue moments. And then like it's Frank Stallone all over. Are the Bee Gees, were they like the abused first wife? Like, and now in Frank Stallano is the trophy songwriter. I can't see, but is that a member of the Bee Gees asking that question?

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I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I actually pulled a couple because they're so fucking good. One of the best ones. All right, this one is titled Andy Warhol Loved It by Unlucky Frank.

And this is just a part of his gigantic post. If you appreciate Kama Sutra paintings, you're gonna love this flick. The routines are sexual. There are tons of tight butts, legs, and thighs floating through the shots. Reason enough to give this five stars. I love that he delineates paintings.

Karma suits you paintings. This one I think goes to answer your question about staying alive. This is a titled Good Movie, he did give it five stars, though. It's good. By Edwin Perla, and he writes, it is a great musical movie about something that happens every single day.

In everybody's life. What? And you can learn how to stay alive. Wow. Wow. So for this person, this movie is a how-to. How? It's a resource.

Wow. Oh, fuck, wait. Hold on, shit. I feel on the verge of death. Put staying alive in. I need to remind myself how to stay alive. It's a resource. Wow! Oh, fuck, wait. Hold on, shit. I feel on the verge of death. Put Staying Alive in. I need to remind myself how to do this.

All right. Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba- Now, Jason, you joke, but... Um... S. Boggess writes, Staying Alive to Stay Alive, continues this thought by saying, watching, exercising to both soundtracks of Saturday Night Fever and Staying Alive with John Travolta would definitely make the change of many lives.

If you have not danced to one of the songs per day, you would not need any weight loss. You would not need any over-the-counter medications or supplements. I watched this, and having lived those days, it's amazing how music was the cure to everything. Overall, great health. Many obese persons would never have weighed heavier

than the normal muscular body mass of one that is structurally built. It's a fun dancing experience that might help with depression. I would send a major recommendation to just work out to one of these songs by dancing when you have a few moments alone. Or not.

Paul, daily. Paul, can I ask you a question? Yes. Do you have one of these songs on your computer? I do, I do. Would you cue it up? Yeah, you got it. You got it.

Everybody up! Everybody needs this exercise. You podcast listeners are disgusting human beings. So this isn't for us, this is for everybody. We're all gonna get up and dance to this. Alright, ready? Here we go. Let's go. Get up!

["Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy"] Okay, I know you right now are listening to the podcast going, what is happening? Basically, a full-on dance routine is breaking out. So just picture me, June, Jason, and Katie Dippold dancing on stage aggressively. Reminder you're not really good. Push the person next to you. Knock them down. Take the stage. Just punch the person next to you, knock them down. Take the stage, take the stage. ["I Am Down For What I Am For"]

Try and lift someone. I'm kidding, don't do that. In the middle, you guys fucking dance. ["I Am Down For What I Am For"] ["I Am Down For What I Am For"] Amazing. Wow. What an amazing love story between the two of you. I really got it now. I really understood it.

That one was a big fuck you to the podcast listeners. What's going on? What's going on? What's going on? What's going on? What's going on? What are they doing? I'm not going to edit it out. I'm leaving that in. Here we go.

And so he concludes by saying, if you do that, amazing results will come naturally. Try to treat your body as what you expect from it and overall terrific health. What would it hurt to try? I am realizing that a lot of people found this movie not having any understanding of like the song staying alive or the cultural reference like just literally saw it in the library or the video store. Wait, wait, wait. In the library? That's the first place? Honestly, yes.

I feel like both of these gentlemen found this movie in the library. In the library. OK. I'm dead serious. And are deeply troubled. One guy was like, there's lots of close-up pictures of butts and stuff.

In size. They were like, you're lots of close-up pictures of butts and stuff. In size. They were like, you're gonna have to bring that back. It's really quite sad though. They just saw the title and thought, I need this. They thought of it as like a self-help thing. Yes, yes. The final five-star review is one of my favorites. This is actually, the review is the VHS tape, not the DVD.

Don't pity the people who use VHS. It was only 2001. It was only 2001. Oh, that poor person doesn't have that blue ring. This is written in all caps. I will not read it yelling, though. I fail to understand why so many people slate this movie. Hey, yes, the script is not written in any way to reflect an intellectual plot or a masterpiece.

The journey of the character played by John Travolta is only skin deep, but how much can you go in two hours? Oh! Oh! A lot of movies would disagree. And plus, how much can you go in two hours? I work as a professional actor slash dancer,

having qualified from one of the top academy in the world. And I have met and worked with Sly, and no other filmmaker can give an audience an adrenaline rush like this. The film inspired me throughout my time at drama school. It inspires me. It's honest. It's real in observing the mechanism one goes through to succeed.

Yes, it speeds it up a bit, but it's a film for God's sake. It's escapism. The ideology of a guy wanting to be in a Broadway show and how he gets there is full of conviction for me. Get this movie onto DVD quick. It's simply the best for any aspiring dancer and actor to draw inspiration from.

Honest. Experience it. So he is using that as a manual, a manual for success. Everybody's getting so much life-affirming content from this movie, which is about a monster destroying the lives of those around him in order to succeed. Yeah, but day by day, did he not stay alive? You got me there, June. You could argue he started the movie alive

and finished the movie alive, so he did it. Is there anything else we'd like to chat about? Anything that we missed? Anything from the audience that we missed? Anything that we... Is there anything else we'd like to chat about? Anything that we missed? Anything from the audience that we missed? Anything that we, there's a glaring, all right, this guy says there's a glaring thing that we missed.

It better be good, here we go. Go for it. It's actually not from the movie, but I wanted to, I wanted to, did you guys know that this was a Choose Your Own Adventure book? It was made into a Choose Your Own Adventure book? What?

Hold on. Let's all leave right now and go to eBay. Look at me. Look what I'm doing. All right. I am on eBay. You have a picture of it? He has a picture of it.

You're starting up your phone. So it's a choose your own adventure book. So I guess you can like fall in love with Jackie or you can treat her like shit. I think the only option is you treat her like shit. That's the only option. Don't take no for an answer. Go to page 36.

Don't take no for an answer. Turn the page. All the options are like that scene in Terminator where it's like someone knocks on the door and it's like, fuck you asshole. It's all like, tell someone to go to hell or tell someone to fuck off. Um, I'm gonna look at the, uh,

well, this is amazing. I imagine some chapters end just like, fuck you. You'll go to page 25. He yells at you, go back. You made the wrong choice. If you're a man, choose whatever page you'd like. If you're a woman, turn the next page, dummy. Which...

It's not on eBay currently. Which leads me to my question. Like, literally, who is this movie for? I mean, a choose-your-own-adventure book is for children. Right? I mean, is this for children? Like, should children be reading a staying alive choose your own adventure? Yes.

In a word, yes. I read all the Magnum P.I. choose your own adventures. Worth it. Oh my gosh, well, anything else from you guys? Anything else at all? Oh my gosh, oh my gosh, you guys. Okay, well, geez, we have two more from the crowd. We don't know if we're doing this right. Here we go, what do you got? Anything else at all? Oh my gosh, oh my gosh, you guys. Okay, well geez, we have two more from the crowd. We don't know if we're doing this right here.

What do you got? Come to me. I would just like to point out that if you hunt around on YouTube, you can find a great making of featurette featuring Stallone and Travolta. And you asked who this movie is made for, the host of that little piece is Geraldo Rivera.

Oh! Get back out, leave again. We got homework. I do wanna say this. Our audiences are the fucking best. You guys do the reset. You guys fucking get it. I feel bad for your lives. But you get it.

Would you recommend watching this movie? Yes, 100%. Instantly. Yeah, yeah. I would not only recommend getting it, but searching Frank Stallone and getting that album. I can't, I literally can't stop listening to that song. Please, please, fuck to this tonight. Please, you're here with your boyfriend or your girlfriend

or somebody that's, it's a date, you whatever, go home and be like, well I said fuck to it, should we fuck, yes. Fuck to it and tell us about it on the message boards. You weirdos. I'm gonna argue and I say it's a better finger bang song. A lot more moving. Weirdos. Weirdos. Weirdos. Weirdos. Weirdos. Weirdos. Weirdos. Weirdos.

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Weirdos. Weirdos. Weirdos. Weirdos. Weirdos. Weirdos. Weirdos. Weirdos. Weirdos. Weirdos. Weird, we have fun. This is for me, like a top ten, how did this get made movie? Yeah. 100%.

Well, it was a huge hit, by the way. Well, thank you guys for coming. That's it. That's our show. We did it. We did it. It was great. Thank you.

Thank you, Katie Dipole. Give it up. Thank you guys so Dipold. Um. Give it up. Thank you guys so much for coming out. Well, we definitely did it. That was another live episode, live from Largo. If you want to come see us at Largo, go to Largo-LA.com. A big hand for Katie Dipold. She's an amazing, talented writer. She's written on parks and recreation, of course wrote the hilarious movie, The Heat, and is doing so

many more cool things that are probably secretive and I can't share with you. And a big thank you to July Diaz who recorded the episode. Amazing job. Amazing. And everybody who helps us out, I'm talking about Leanna Waldron, who does all of our graphics. I'm talking about Avril Haley, who does all of our amazing clip pulling. I'm talking about Nate Kiley, who gets all the research done. I'm talking about all these people,

because I love all these people. They're so good. And of course, Katie Dyer, who helps us out with the social media aspect of the show. All right, everybody, that was a lot of fun. Have a great day.