How Did This Get Made? - The Avengers LIVE! w/ Tom Scharpling (HDTGM Matinee)

Episode Date: March 10, 2026

Don't worry Marvel fans, we're talkin' about the 1998 spy movie The Avengers starring Ralph Fiennes, Uma Thurman, and Sean Connery. LIVE from Vulture Festival in NYC, The Best Show's Tom Scharpling j...oins Paul, June, and Jason to discuss Sean Connery's "evil" plan to control the weather, the 2ma Thurman clone, the bizarre bear costumes, the lack of extras in the movie, and so much more. Plus, an audience member asks a very special question and we hear our first ever 4th Opinion Review! Check out Blake Harris' oral history of The Avengers at: www.slashfilm.com/544548/1998-the-avengers-oral-history/ (Ep. #137 Originally Released 05/27/2016) • Go to hdtgm.com for tour dates, merch, FAQs, and more• Have a Last Looks correction or omission? Call 619-PAULASK to leave us a voicemail!• Submit your Last Looks theme song to us here• Join the HDTGM conversation on Discord: discord.gg/hdtgm• Buy merch at howdidthisgetmade.dashery.com/• Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of Trauma• Shop our new hat collection at podswag.com• Paul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheer• Paul’s YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheer• Follow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer• Subscribe to Enter The Dark Web w/ Paul & Rob Huebel: youtube.com/@enterthedarkweb• Listen to Unspooled with Paul & Amy Nicholson: unspooledpodcast.com• Listen to The Deep Dive with June & Jessica St. Clair: thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcast• Instagram: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & @junediane• Twitter: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & msjunediane  • Jason is not on social media• Episode transcripts available at how-did-this-get-made.simplecast.com/episodesGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If this movie was a cup of tea, it would be coffee. And if that doesn't make any sense, don't worry. Because nothing in this movie does. We saw The Avengers, so you know what that means. How did Schwarzenegger Grove baby in his belly rock a rindstone vest while ripping just into Kelly or maybe see a burlash show with Nick Crow and take a boat with speed to hitting cruise control. J-man, Big Paul in the beautiful June. Gonna take you from the goof all the way to the room.
Starting point is 00:00:36 Games and street fire that help to blow off steam. Just a sucker punch the odd life for Timothy Green. Shark needle, the bird demic, how we stand a lot. They call it in the badass and he's on the line. Cranking 88 minutes because they cool as ice. Because a bad Jim Barney looking kind and nice. Paul and June getting literal. Jason is getting laid.
Starting point is 00:00:55 June is making sure all the monkey shots getting paid. They're just a bunch of movies while they're making the grade. Here's a real question for you. How did this get made? where podcasts have been broadcasting live for decades. So excited to be back here. We have a great movie in store. Not a great movie that was made,
Starting point is 00:01:33 but a great movie to talk about because this one defies a lot of expectations. Plot, story, characters, all of those things. But to talk about this movie effectively, I need to introduce my co-os. Please welcome to the stage, Jason Manzuka. What's up? Jerk.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Are you Jason? These are just beds. We are on beds. These are just full-blown beds. For the people listening at home, we are not in chairs. We are on two day beds. And not any day beds, Casper Daybeds. And that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:02:21 We're talking, we're here at CPL, right? The Casper Podcast Lounge. You know, and right after CBGBs went under, I was like, this is still left. Thank God. We're in the meat. New York venue. CPL.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Hogs and heifers might have closed, but CPL is still staying open. Castor podcast Lounge. The couches are so comfortable we might fall asleep during the podcast. The couches are so comfortable because they are beds. Please welcome my other clothes.
Starting point is 00:02:57 The beautiful, the talented Jew, Diane Raphiel. Welcome, June. Wow. June, how is this comfortable for you? It's really comfortable. All right. You're good. All right, great. I have 15 pillows.
Starting point is 00:03:30 I have been laboring under the belief that these mattresses were made of the corpses of Casper the friendly ghost. They're so soft, they feel like ghosts are inside. Like, they are ghost corpses. Ooh, sleeping on us, like a lovely ghost corpse. The only mattress company with dead ghosts inside. Yep. I guess all ghosts are dead. And they say up to 10 ghosts go into every.
Starting point is 00:03:56 single cast per mattress. And they're not just, you know, it's all different types of ghosts. Old ghosts. Well, it's also a process making the mattresses is a process that kills a lot of ghosts. Well, and that's like, they're made of double ghosts, ghosts that have been killed. Yeah, they were ghosts, and then they were killed.
Starting point is 00:04:16 There were people that became ghosts, and then... But then the ghosts were killed, so now they're double ghosts. Spoiler alert, but you'll find out when you see Ghostbusters, the new one, that they're basically just catching ghosts for Casper mattresses. I'm not sure if this is what Casper would like us to be putting out there, and in fact, I'm certain they don't.
Starting point is 00:04:35 But every single one of their mattresses is haunted. By a friendly ghost. By a friendly ghost. Yeah. Which is a very big difference. You don't want an evil grip. I mean, yes. Every now and then you will
Starting point is 00:04:50 get an evil ghost in there. And that's a one out of a hundred mattresses which is why the mattresses are so popular with the lonely. Also known as people who listen to podcast. So welcome to the Castler Podcast Lounge. We have a
Starting point is 00:05:12 very special guest joining us tonight. Our guest tonight is someone we've been wanting to have on the show for quite some time. You know him as the host of the best show. Please welcome Tom Sharpling. Welcome, Tom. Welcome.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Have a seat right there. All right. How are you, Tom? I'm good. Listen to that completely measured applause of me being here. The heard Tom, and then the only thing they wanted to hear after that was... Cruise! Mess Middle Ditch. And then it's like, oh, no.
Starting point is 00:05:59 People are very excited to see you. Very excited. Let's get into this movie, The Avengers. It's a remake of the British TV show. Thor. Captain America. No, no. Wrong, wrong Avengers.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Wait, what? What? What is it? Ultron. What is it? What is it? It's a remake? It's, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:23 What is it? And we're off. It is, it is a remake of a British TV show called The Avengers. Like an old, like, back in the day there were a lot of British TV shows about, like the man from Uncle, the saint, this one that were like James Bond for, TV. Okay, this helps. So, was this, was this weather idea
Starting point is 00:06:54 just an episode of the Avengers? Wait, wait. Like, did they take an episode, like, did they take an episode and make it into a feature? No. They just took the characters and they updated them into this great plot about someone's
Starting point is 00:07:10 stealing a weather. Do you want to be sitting on this blanket? Is this part weird for you? This feels like a blanket in a hotel room that you need to remove immediately. But you don't want to because Casper's great sponsor. Casper's a great sponsor and all their blankets are really clean. Sure. But I'm going to come on all these mattresses.
Starting point is 00:07:30 That's just a promise that I give all mattresses. Yeah, so it is a remake of a British TV show and there were three female leads I believe throughout the run of the show like Honor Blackman, Diana Rig, and then someone else. Sorry, I don't know that person's name.
Starting point is 00:07:49 That poor woman. That poor, poor woman. But yeah, so I always say, like, there's certain signs that we are going to be dealing with a bad movie. One of them is when the movie can't even make 90 minutes. This one comes in at, like, a tight, like, 84. Under 90 minutes. And it's not a tight 84.
Starting point is 00:08:10 No. It is, if you had told me I had spent the last four hours watching it, I would have been like, I think so. I had many moments where I thought, listen, listen June, listen harder. You must have missed something. And then I thought, go back. I have to, I've texted you, I have to rewind and start at the beginning. I've missed something that is so important.
Starting point is 00:08:37 And I was too lazy to do that, so I didn't. I have an update. You missed nothing. You, the, what you were. wanting to get was at any point somebody giving a coherent explanation of what was going on in the movie that you feel like you must have missed, that never happened? That never happened? I watched the movie twice. I'm so sorry. Clearly the first time I watched it, I had that exact same reaction. I was like, I must have fallen asleep during this, apparently. It's not been fading in and out. And I was like, I can't think of one thing that I just saw. So I watched it again. It's like, I think I understand it less now the second time. Like it's becoming something you're not supposed to question. I will say the movie feels like a Jenga tower
Starting point is 00:09:25 that has been being played for many hours. So many missing pieces, but yet it's still like, oh, that's a tower. That is definitely a tower, but I don't understand how it's standing. Because all the important structural pieces have been removed. Or if you were to be like, oh, you know what? I had a dream last night. Here's what happened. So, I was a spy,
Starting point is 00:09:51 and then there was a woman, and, oh, and she had a twin, and then we, like, it was raining. Oh, and then it was snowing. And then the first James Bond was there. Like, it was, it just, like, none of it, and none of it progressed in any way that made sense. Well, I still could,
Starting point is 00:10:13 I couldn't come up with even a theory. at the end on why... So what do you think now that you've had time to percolate? Honestly, I don't have... I think Sir August... Sean Connery... Sean Connery wanted to control the weather.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Yes. For... Which is also a sign of a bad movie. Controlling the weather, I think of the bad thing is about it. But here's what I can't land on. For political purposes and just... Or for financial gain. Financial game. I genuinely don't know financial game.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Yeah. I think it really comes in in like the third act when he's basically like, you're going to have to buy your weather from me. So he's going to be like the Time Warner cable of the weather. We're like, depending on where you are, you have to get your weather from him. Well, let's hear... And he's gonna suck.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Let's hear... And the customer service is awful. Let's hear that his diabolical plan as he's dressed in a giant kilt. Sean Connery dons many a costume in this movie. Guess what doesn't fill me with like dread about a villain, bagpipes. I'm like, oh, you're nefarious plot is announced with bagpipes. And again, this is late in the third act of the film
Starting point is 00:11:35 where the major plan that would be kind of fueling the whole movie is revealed very late within maybe 20 minutes of the end. Oh, yeah. Now is the winter of your discontent. Above you, the weather is changing. The temperature is dropping. All the screens are the same shot. Why?
Starting point is 00:12:02 Because the weather is no longer in God's hands, but in mine. A chain reaction that will paralyze and ultimately destroy. the countdown has already begun. This is... Why? Why do we have a dick shot? Shut up. Close up of a codpiece.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Hundreds of millions will die. They'll drown, burn, freeze. You and your governments have no choice. You will buy your weather from me. Okay. And that is. is the plan.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Oh, and by the way, you have until midnight. Now, if you haven't seen what just happened, he takes his walking stick, hits a giant globe, and the globe seemingly... The globe seemingly flies so far out of... Like he was making a baseball or something.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Not a 3D movie, also. Like, the kind of thing that would be the cheapest thing in a 3D movie, this was never in 3D. Meanwhile, Jim Broadbent is sitting in... in front of a bank of surveillance cameras that are watching all of this, each one of them is the same shot.
Starting point is 00:13:34 So like, they don't have like cameras all over, giving like, and here's what's over here, and here's what's over here, and it's, you know, it's like, oh no, you've just got a bunch of screens showing the same shot. Well, my issue was this. It seems to me that the UN was ready for this meeting.
Starting point is 00:13:51 I was like, okay, first order of business. I don't think that was the UN. I don't know what that was. I don't think that was the UN. I think that was something else. Well, they all seem like they were dressed in different costumes. Oh, yeah. They definitely represented different countries.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Do you think there's a chance that Sean Connery just showed up dressed like that that day? And they were just like, we need to change what everybody else is wearing. Because he's wearing a kilt today. I'll go one further. I'll go one further and say he showed up dressed like that every day. And that's the one day they let him do it. Well, I will then add to this and say that I, feel like this character
Starting point is 00:14:29 that Sean Connery plays is the closest to actual Sean Connery the man. Like there is something about it. I'm like, yeah, take away the weather machine. I think this is Sean Connery. Yeah. Also just like meets a woman by grabbing her by the throat
Starting point is 00:14:45 first time he meets her. He literally grabs, we'll show that scene in a little bit, he grabs a woman by the throat. He comes up from underneath and goes straight for a hand wrapped around throat and then a ton of sexual innuendo. None of it which works
Starting point is 00:15:05 because the movie is so full of sexual innuendo that it's, then it becomes no innuendo. It's just... And yet it's, I've never, I honestly don't think I've ever seen less, almost negative sexual chemistry between two people. Like they were being repelled from each other.
Starting point is 00:15:24 That stands for every single person. Like, to me, the most fuckable character is the old lady Alice. His father, yes. Oh, father. You dirty little minks. Well, yeah, obviously, well, would it change it for you of the original casting,
Starting point is 00:15:52 as it was originally intended, to be Mel Gibson, as John Steed and Nicole Kidman. That was the original powerhouse of sexuality. I thought, I hate to say this. There's such a hype disparity. Between Uma and Rafe? Yes. The one scene where they kiss at the end,
Starting point is 00:16:14 they're eye to eye, and there's no way unless he's like standing on a hill that that would ever happen. Do you feel like it is like uncomfortable when a woman is taller than a man? Like, and they are together? No, I don't. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:30 I don't feel that way. Okay. But I guess maybe I don't want to watch the courtship of it. Yeah. Because I don't. I know that to be, you know, true. I'm a tall woman.
Starting point is 00:16:43 I probably just as tall as you. Maybe. Okay. But it was interesting to watch her because I actually felt when she was in regular civilian clothes in those Chanel suits, it felt weird.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Like, I only felt she was comfortable in the leather jumpsuits. Like, that's when I felt she was at rest. Totally. And from this movie, what I know is she brought him to set every day in a backpack. Kind of like Luke carrying around Yoda and Empire Strikes Back. He rode on her back. I don't know the stats on his height.
Starting point is 00:17:19 And I don't walk around feeling this. I really don't. I'm happy to accept a height disparity in a couple, you know. But just not, it's not for you. I have been out at outdoor cafes with you and you'll point to people in the street. Well, June will point the people. We'll be out at outdoor French bistros and June will point at people and go, if they're under five feet, ew, ew, ew. So it is a constant.
Starting point is 00:17:48 To be fair, a lot of those are children. Yeah, she's not, you have no respect for children at all. Because it's not about a man being tall. It's about just height. Do you watch Game of Thrones? No, but I know. I was going to say there's a whole Santa Stark, John Snow,
Starting point is 00:18:05 reunited this week, and she is towers over John. Kid Harrington's like, Kid Harrington's like, oh my God, you're back! So who was supposed to be in the movie originally? Mel Gibson and Nicole Kidman. Now, speaking of Game of Thrones, originally it was going to be directed by David Fincher,
Starting point is 00:18:26 and he wanted Taiwan Lanister. Yes. and he wanted Taiwan Lannister to be Charles Dance? Yeah, to be James Deed. So that guy. So it could have been him. Oh, can you imagine? He would have been great. So, but no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:18:42 If it was Mel Gibson, they probably, he probably would have just, like, teamed up with Sean Connery and then just, like, two shitty dudes deciding to, like, ruin Earth together. I would, I think that Mel Gibson would have refused to have done the British accent. Like I think I'm like that We don't need to do that I'm a British spy Yeah yeah yeah it'll be fine
Starting point is 00:19:03 It's me It's me John Snee Here's a free stooges reference Let's go let's shoot this thing So The whole movie We reveal the plot at the end But here's something that you guys should know
Starting point is 00:19:17 The movie was 120 minutes That was cut down to 85 That's what happened And the reason why is because they test screen this movie to an audience of Spanish-speaking people. In contended audience.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Not in subtitles. And the ratings are very bad. And so the studio freaked out and they decided to make this cut of the movie, which cut out giant, giant plot holes of this, or filled in a lot of plot holes, obviously. Because it's 85 minutes. And every scene, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:19:54 wait, how did they get there? Why did they go there? It doesn't make any sense to me. How did they get away from there? Yeah. They get away from Sir August three times. At the very least. One fourth of the movie consists of people waking up on a couch
Starting point is 00:20:11 after having been knocked out during a fight and just someone tending to someone as they wake up on a couch. And you have no idea how they got there and why they're not mad. Like, wait, you knocked me out in the snow. Now we're here on the couch, but I'm not going to tell you that you knocked me out in the snow. We're just going to keep a real subtle that only the audience knows this and I know this, but the character's never sure. Are we to believe that Umah Thurman 2, Tuma Thurman? There's two.
Starting point is 00:20:47 I'm real happy with that. Are we to believe that Tuma Thurman is the result of, Sir August's cloning program from the, from years ago? Yes. But like, we never really get into that, right? Because once they discover it, she, Tuma Thurman is straight up murdered. Did you, and your second viewing, did you understand? Again, I understood less of that.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Okay. And I just now understand that that was some clone. I didn't get that at all. I didn't get that at all. I didn't get that all. I didn't get that all. I don't know. Do you not remember the invisible man?
Starting point is 00:21:32 Oh, yes. Giving us an exposition dump with files? It almost seemed like Uma Thurman knew that Tuma Thurman was out there. She had no reaction. She sees the woman on the thing and is like, it looks like me, but it's not me. If I saw that, I would shit my pants. But no one in this movie reacts to anything.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Okay, here's the other thing that happens. When finally we are, we see Uma and Tuma and Ray Fines, Ray Fines is like, I feel like I'm seeing double. And Uma Thurman goes, me too. You're not seeing yourself. You are the only person not seeing double because you are not looking at yourself. He also says that line about five times.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Yeah, yeah, everybody. That line is used constantly in an effort to allow Tuma Thurman to get away. She always gets away because people are like, now what? And she's like, walks right by. The big flaw of this movie, well, I shouldn't.
Starting point is 00:22:41 One of the flaws is that the Secret Service, they go, okay, we have video footage of who they think is Uma Thurman breaking into this laboratory. And they go, you know what we need to do? We need to find her and then make her a secret agent.
Starting point is 00:22:57 Good plan. Yep. Why not just arrest her right there? She is their chief suspect. They have video footage of her doing it. And they're like, instead, we're going to put you together as part of a super spy team of weirdos. To find you. To find me, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Which they have no inkling even exists. They have no clues. Yes. And she finds a clue. She goes to Sean Conner's house and it's like, I found a clue. It's a snow globe with an umbrella in it. Now let's go to the weather store and price out some weather.
Starting point is 00:23:35 And the thing about the weather store that was interesting is he, at the end, we heard the big plan, he's going to control the weather, but it seems like he's already selling the weather. That's what I understand. What is the corporation Wonderland Weather do? I don't know. I also don't know why no one shot him
Starting point is 00:23:54 when he's in front of the UN because he's like, at the end of that, hit that ball, and then everyone would be like, okay, so we'll see you. I guess we'll talk about this and we'll get back to you. What's crazier is, is watching this on TV. They're at like some sort of UN-type meeting, as you've seen, but with all of these nation heads, blah, blah, blah, they're all like, rah, right, right, he gives his speech, he hits the ball.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Okay, we come back into Jim Broadbent's like bunker, and the old lady spy comes in is like, here's his list of demands. Whoa, whoa, whoa. It's like when Obama does the state of the union, like the minute it starts, they send it out. Sure. That would be like if Obama was having like a meeting with someone who was like, these are our demands for this.
Starting point is 00:24:41 And then like a low level person walked into the head of the CIA and was like, yeah, that guy on TV, this is what he's talking about. That makes no sense. They would have killed that old lady instantly. I felt like watching this movie felt like if you ever have like a spouse or like a friend that's like, hey, let's go out with all my old high school friends
Starting point is 00:25:08 and they go out and they just do inside jokes the entire night and you sit there and you're like, yeah, I don't, you're never, I'm trying to, because it's like, they felt, I feel like they felt like, yeah, we got it. It would be like that if you met your friend's old friends and they were all mannequins. And he was filling in all of the, all the old jokes that they had together. And you realize, I'm sitting with my friend and six mannequins. And he's laughing at the stories they're telling.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Well, if you told me this was written by like a weather-obsessed 11-year-old, I'd be like, oh, now I get it. I didn't understand that when he kisses Mrs. When he kisses Uma Thurman at the end to really, like, to suss out if that's Uma or Tuma, I don't understand that moment because he's never kissed her before. Right, but it makes his dick hard. So, those are the lines.
Starting point is 00:26:19 It makes his dick hard, and he's like, so I knew it was you. Because Tuma Thurman wouldn't be able to make his dick hard. Didn't do anything for him. There, but to me, that was a really missed time moment. Again, structure-wise, a big fight on a hot air balloon, a big death. They come face to face, the guy and the girl, you've been following the whole movie. They have a big triumphant kiss. They've saved the day.
Starting point is 00:26:42 And then you look, and it's like 25 minutes left in this movie. Yeah. Like, oh, oh, okay. Like, they wrote an end in the middle of the movie. Yeah. Which is bizarre. arguably. Yeah, 100%.
Starting point is 00:26:58 Because what then happens is pointless. Can we hear some of their sexual innuendo stuff? If this is the boot scene, I'm gonna leave. It's seen to be so... Wait, because it turns you on so much?
Starting point is 00:27:15 No. First of all, I've never seen a four-play scene where boots are going on, not off. And it was so strange and weird. But let's watch it. to watch it again. All right, here we go. Boots going on. Umma Thurman in her red
Starting point is 00:27:31 cat suit. You live alone, no, Mrs. Steed. Since you ask, Mrs. Steed lives in Wiltshire. I had you down as a creature of Abbott. A bachelor's life.
Starting point is 00:27:50 It's worked quite well until now. Don't tell me you never met the right girl. Well, there's always the exception. That proves the rule? Quite. You're exceptional in many things. but duty comes first. So, a time and place for everything.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Putting on the boot is definitely the time. I hate it, I hate it, I hate it, I hate it. He puts it down her, oh, looks. Both have like a very pain look, it looks like... He's like putting it in, like it's a metaphor for like... It's like he's trying to fuck her, but she's dry. Yes. I was trying to figure out a way to say that, but yeah, that's exactly it.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Like, it's not, the boot is not going on easily. Well, because she's in, she's wearing a red leotard that I think is, like, footed. Oh, yeah. She's wearing, like, a jumpsuit that has feet, like, footy pajamas. Yeah, so there's no, like, there's no way to snug that boot in. And I'm sure that boot is not meant to go over something that is that thick. No, those are thick, thick, thick, thick. Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:16 thick. Keep going. It's not like... Stockings. They look so... I hated it. Yeah. But you've got to wear a stocking
Starting point is 00:29:28 before you get a boot on to be safe. Oh yeah. No, you got to. You can't just go jamming a boot on like raw dog. By the way, you don't want to rock out a boot without taking some protection
Starting point is 00:29:41 for your feet. Something earlier. She mentioned she wanted a pair of boots? No, he gets them for her because they have the tracking device. in them and I think he sets it up so that he can
Starting point is 00:29:53 keep tabs on her. I'm telling you, this has never happened to me before, I swear. I had a hard time hearing this movie. Even now, I thought, listen to them. Listen to them. I could not hear them. I can't understand what they're saying. I kept writing nobody on earth
Starting point is 00:30:09 talks like this to each other. Thank you because I didn't get that at all that these were. I thought he was just buying her pair of boots. Don't you remember when they were at the clothing store having the sword fight at the beginning that scene that started halfway through a rapier battle
Starting point is 00:30:24 yes oh yeah no I've been like just I know I've been here for almost a week in New York walking around going to some stores doing a little shopping getting into sword fights you know while they prepare my bulletproof waistcoats and I just want to reiterate this
Starting point is 00:30:41 she's not a special agent of any kind she's a scientist who is really good at sword fighting and fighting and she's a scientist. Because her father wanted a son. Oh, wow. Which explains it all.
Starting point is 00:30:57 I guess it's time to talk about the bear costumes. This. Do you have a picture? We can just... Oh, I have a picture. I have the whole scene because... I don't want to watch the whole scene. We're playing too many clips.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Just a photo. Just a photo. When this happened, when this happened, I gasped. I could not believe it. this. Sean Connery holds a meeting in a room full of brightly colored giant people in bear costumes.
Starting point is 00:31:37 In like, like, gummy bears or the Grateful Dead Dead Dancing Bears. Yeah, Grateful Dead Dancing Bears. That's what they look like. And their giant, bulky costumes. And clearly, Sean Connery didn't do the first part of the scene where the head was on. He was like, I'm not going to put on that dumb head.
Starting point is 00:31:57 The body language changes almost entirely. If you just look at it. So for those at home, just picture... Yes, go ahead. Why does security need to be in bear costumes? Like, they're protecting the anonymity of the guys at the table, which I kind of get. But why does security have to put something on
Starting point is 00:32:20 that would directly prohibit them from doing their jobs? Jason? Once you're in that barehead, You're seeing like a tiny, tiny bit of the world. You can't pick up a gun. No. You are where, you have pause. You are security.
Starting point is 00:32:36 O contrary. These people we see after this meeting are functioning in their bear costumes. Yes. Literally working on a, like a construction site. And like running around. Like when was the costume supposed to come off? It felt like that was just for this. They're like, all right, everyone go back to work.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Now go work on your science experiment. And then, you know, they're disposable too. because Eddie Isard just kind of takes us off and chucks it in the dumpster. I need you to chill out, bro. I need you to chill out, bro. I'll just show you the opening of this where Sean Connery is just listen and, well, not listen, but just watch. I cannot listen. The dramatic body changer.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Welcome to Wonderland Weather here in our London headquarters. Now allied with our colleagues from Broly, together we will make history. You all know who I am, and I know all of you. Now, he is gesticulating there as if he's on Barney. Like it's wave and hook and up, shucks, and then... Every one in the bear costume is like, like, nodding along. Do you think they were told, like, to get into character?
Starting point is 00:34:00 Or did they just, like, once I have that bear costume on, like... I think that there was no way that they could take that bare head off. Because when he takes it off, it looks like, it looks like, well, his head so small in this costume, where was it being held to? Why? Why do this? Why do this? I don't know. He knows who they are.
Starting point is 00:34:24 There's nothing about the movie. They don't know who each other are now. There's nothing about the movie that is, in other aspects, this playful? You know what I mean? like everybody could certainly wear masks for anonymity, but why big giant, like, furry bear costumes, Teddy Bear style bear costumes? He doesn't seem to be that kind of a cheeky character. Like, he doesn't seem to...
Starting point is 00:34:50 This is not comfortable. Jason is referring to his... I'm still struggling with these beds. The bed couches that we are on. Yeah, he doesn't seem to be cheeky in any way. He only seems to be intimidating in every one. way. There's so many better ways to hide everyone's
Starting point is 00:35:07 anonymity. Yeah, and you know, part of this whole thing ties into a larger thing that I honestly wasn't sure when this movie took place. Whether it was in the 60s or in the 90s, except it was like in the 60s with
Starting point is 00:35:23 like cool technology or in the 90s with stuff that have kind of seen already anyway, except for like bees. Like there's elements of this that like share, that they share, with like Kingsman. You know, like Kingsman also has like their dress, their secret agents
Starting point is 00:35:39 as part of a side bit, blah, blah, that is well tailored and that's a part of how they operate and blah, blah, blah, blah. But like, you know what's blowing, you know what'll blow you away? This movie takes place in 2043. Wow.
Starting point is 00:35:55 So. I hated the way this movie looked. I like the opening sequence. And then after that, I just... Wait, you liked the opening sequence? When the, like, it was the obstacle course of what happens? You know what, we're going to put you through a super spy obstacle course? One in which you're walking through the streets of a quaint English town
Starting point is 00:36:20 and everybody's trying to kill you. And they treat it like, oh, be careful. No, everyone tried to kill them except for the nuns, but it wasn't like... But had he shot at them, those would be dead nuns. Yeah, but done nothing wrong. He didn't have a gun. He fist fights everybody. Was the potted plant
Starting point is 00:36:40 falling the first attack? Yes. Seems like it. Wow. That's a real, that's a real, like, gentle assault. But it's almost like he found a mark. He, like, walked straight to a place
Starting point is 00:36:51 and then had to be like, oops. Like, he must have, like, what's the plan? Like, well, if he walks anywhere near this, we're going to drop this plant on him. That guy is up there all the time through every, And are there guys in all the upper windows with plants?
Starting point is 00:37:07 Like if he gets here. And just waiting like, oh, I wish they walked down the sidewalk because then I could do my plant drop. Also, what is that training you for? How many assassins are using potted plant as their weapon? Like, how is that part of it? You never know. This is something I really want to show you guys.
Starting point is 00:37:28 I'm not even going to explain it to you, but, well, I will a little bit. Did you notice that there's nobody in this movie? Nobody in the movie? Yes. Yes. There is a grand total of, I think, 22 people that appear in this movie. If you are not a speaking character,
Starting point is 00:37:41 so this is the producer that Averill found talking about, oh my gosh, talking about why it's cool. Here we go. Stuart Craig and Jeremiah Chedguk have created London I would like to live in.
Starting point is 00:37:56 You know, it's clean, very, very clean. There are no billboards, no signs, no traffic. It's really nice. I mean, you could get from downtown London to the country in 20 minutes. And then we see every scene in the movie where they're outdoors, and there's no one. Not a person, not another car.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Just always empty. It's never, ever, ever shown people. London Bridge, empty. Streets, empty. People don't even react to the weather changing. because there's no people. There are no reaction shots. There's not, there's no extras in this movie.
Starting point is 00:38:46 And by the way, that producer kind of being a dick, like, oh, that's the London I like to live in. Clean, no billboards. One in which a genocide has been committed against the people of London. I love London, but I hate the people, the traffic, and everything about it. I want to live in a dystopian wasteland
Starting point is 00:39:05 with old cars. You would presume from this movie the only people that exist still on Earth are villains and the people that are fighting them. And that's it. When Sean Conrad captures Uma Thurman, it seems like he's like you're not going to remember. Like, I don't even understand what's going on here. So he has Tuma Thurman, which as we understand her to be, she's a clone. So everything like Uma, but not. But she doesn't talk.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Really? She doesn't have a personality. That we know of. Sure. Oh, maybe on her downtime, she's a real cool... She's a real cool gal. I'll blow your mind and give you the fact that we have been left out. She's a robot.
Starting point is 00:39:53 What? I'm sorry, what now? Yeah. She's a robot, and when they re-edited the film, they thought that was too complex to introduce, so they just said she's a clone. So she's a robot. So in the first scenario where she's a robot, she just, they happen to create her in the...
Starting point is 00:40:18 Well, if we want to get into what the real part of the movie is, it will kind of throw you for a loop. Why? Why try and control the weather if you can build Uma Thurman's robots? Like, if that, if you can accomplish that, you're going to be great. Like, you can just build robots, like, forever and work towards the singularity. Like, why, why then be like, well, I want to control the weather? My robot will help, I guess.
Starting point is 00:40:51 She just seems to do, like, hard labor. Like, I mean, she doesn't seem to, yeah. But yet, you would imagine you could have sex with that robot. It's very ex-mocking, all right? Wait, what? What? Pop.
Starting point is 00:41:03 No. Why are you shaking your head? Why would you imagine that? I would imagine that if you're going to build a fully functioning robot. You're going to make all the holes in the right spots. That is so many other reasons to build robots. But not a sexy robot. You could actually maybe put the holes in some of the wrong spots.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Just to like, just to see what happens. But you're building a sexy robot. Like, don't you think that he... You guys saw her as totally sexless then? No, I just don't think that you should assume if you're setting out to build a robot that you're gonna fuck that robot. That's like kind of gross.
Starting point is 00:41:43 All right, all right. It's kind of gross, Paul, that you would like take it to such a sexual place like that. I just am like... I'm not even sure that she was a robot. You might even just be putting your weirdness all over this thing.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Just like, oh yeah, I read this thing, she's a robot. Oh, yeah, she's a sex robot. The, I have some of the plot of the original movie, which is, the movie was to open with Uma Thurman breaking into the base. We see her breaking into the base, and then they call John Steed to go get her so you under your honor side. Tuma. But you don't know it's Tuma. You think it's Uma. And then they had
Starting point is 00:42:21 all these flashbacks throughout the movie. What about Oprah? That's a terrible David Letterman joke. Basically, I mean, the plot of the, the actual part of the movie, I don't even, I, see, Seeing all the scenes that were cut out, it was much... It doesn't even do. Yeah, it doesn't even do. Basically, there was a lot more guessing if she had multiple personalities or if she was... Oh, so you're saying the movie could have had more guessing?
Starting point is 00:42:52 Well, you know what? I think there... I think there was a big misstep in Tuma actually replacing Oma at one point. Uh-huh. I feel like that was a real mixed opportunity. Yeah. That would have been great. I agree.
Starting point is 00:43:05 That would have been very fun. It would have been a great time. Avera pointed out something to me that I thought was interesting to point out again it's a very visual thing but the fighting is very lackluster The fighting is this is some of the worst staged fight sequences I've ever seen It's as if I think what a real fight
Starting point is 00:43:28 between Eddie Isard and Uma Thurman would look like You know It's a little sloppy and like shaky So I will show you this, just the fight scene here, because it's, it really... You're making us watch a lot of this. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:43:47 Oh, this is the fight that takes place on wires. Yeah. So, he shakes wires violently, climbs, and then he falls sloppy. That's the coolest moment. Now he's spinning. She crawls back. And then what is she going to do?
Starting point is 00:44:10 Shake, shake, shake. Shake, shake. That's the fight scene. I was up to say, if this thing, this orb, I don't even know what it is. I don't know what that thing is. What do you think it probably is? I think it's like the nucleus of this operation.
Starting point is 00:44:24 I don't know what it is or what it does, but I know it's important. But if that's so important, like those cables were not on properly. Those cables shouldn't be rocketing out with a couple of hard shakes. Does anyone, before we get to the audience, which will do it just a second, but does anyone want to take a guess of what happened to Sean Connery at the end
Starting point is 00:44:45 when he does get hit by the lightning bolt? What happens to everybody who gets hit by lightning, they are carried into the sky by lightning. And sucked up into the clouds to then stop weather. Yeah, because that's how lightning works, like a hand from the sky. Do you also think it's weird that Eddie Isard is like this comedian And then they gave him like literally zero lines in the entire movie Like he was just to pantomime
Starting point is 00:45:15 It's like we have you And they also cast Sean Ryder from Happy Mondays Was also one of the goons Which I think is great But they also like the Even like the The lack of people in the movie Goes all the way down the line
Starting point is 00:45:32 The idea that Sean Connery like bad guys is just like kind of six guys that look like mods. You know what I mean? Who are immediately terrible fighters. Like his grand villain plan has like nobody to help him out. You know, except like a bunch of dummies and like a bagelip. When he's when he's Cosbying, uh, Uma, the doorbell rings.
Starting point is 00:45:53 He's like, oh, I have to go get it. He lives in such a palatial mansion. The fact that he doesn't have a servant is so disturbing to me. It's like, you got to get your own door? And he's like, oh, I'm about to be the worst. But I guess I got to go into the door. Yeah, just let them keep on knocking. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:15 Well, yeah. You wouldn't want to put your bedroom that close to the door anyway. I mean, that's just kind of an architectural problem. Oh, yeah. All right, well, I'm sure that you people out here have some questions that you need answered. Raise your hand. And I'll come to you guys right now. And let's see here.
Starting point is 00:46:32 All right, we'll come over. here. All right, sir, what's your name? And what is your question? My name is Jack, and I'm wondering why Invisible Jones is it? Yeah, Invisible Jones gets fourth billing in the credits at the end. Invisible Jones is
Starting point is 00:46:49 the guy does the exposition jump. The reason I think why he gets it is because he was the original star of the Avengers TV show. Oh, is it like Patrick McGowan? Is that it is? Yeah, McNee or Benguyen? Yeah. So that's not really a funny answer, but the truthful one.
Starting point is 00:47:05 You think he was so old and weird looking because he's so old that they just like, made him invisible? It's a real insult to him to be like you were the male lead. Now, Diana Rigg was like, no thank you. She passed wholesale on this movie. All right, sir, your name and your question, go ahead. My name is Jeff, and my question is, what were they avenging? Question.
Starting point is 00:47:32 Great question. Great question. It's so true. I kept on wondering, like, did the weather somehow, like, destroy their lives? What are they avenging? It was Ray Fynne's parents were killed by a good movie. Well, this is their chance to fight back. At a certain point, in the beginning, Ray Fines is like, oh, we're, whatever, fighting our enemies, if we even still have any enemies.
Starting point is 00:48:03 And I was like, have they now be? Are they so good at their jobs that they've just eradicated all bad guys? Nope. Well, no one else is left in the world. The world is empty. There is only 40 people left in Britain. The tagline of this movie was, extraordinary crimes against the people and the state must be avenged.
Starting point is 00:48:25 No refunds. And they put that at the very end of it. But here's the weird thing, too. We never saw the weather actually do any harm. Not really. Not really as far as I could see. It was rainy. It was raining and it snowed.
Starting point is 00:48:42 All right. We all been through that. Here you go. Your name, your question. I'll hold the mic. Carmeline and Lally. You don't have to give your full name. We're not like going to check you.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Social Security number. One, two, three. Did anyone else think that the flower in the pot, in the glass thing look like a vagina? Great question, Jason. Here's the thing. I don't need a kind of perverted grossness coming to a family podcast,
Starting point is 00:49:20 but like that pussyflower needed to get fucked. I mean, when he took the magnifying glass away, it was like red and wet. It was essentially a more graphic Georgio Keefe painting. Yes. And by the way, if any of us think Sean Connery is not,
Starting point is 00:49:41 fucking those flowers. In addition to Paul's sex robot theory, he 100% is. Do you think he chokes the flowers? Like, that choking thing, I still kick it. Oh, those flowers are filthy. Okay, sir, your name of your question.
Starting point is 00:49:59 Okay, my name's Matt, and as an English. Oh, do I want to say, you're great? You're an English person. This is going to be great. Oh, so hang on. Will you please explain this movie to us? And what the fuck is wrong with your people that you did this? That's what I was wondering. Do you guys, is that what people think that we all drive around with cars that deliver tea?
Starting point is 00:50:21 You know what? If I had had this on just without the sound on, I would have considered it a documentary of your life. Because you basically got, you guys have inbred yourselves out of existence. There's only like 50 of you left, driving around in old cars being like, we've lost our, minds.
Starting point is 00:50:45 Just so you guys understand how much time tea is referenced in the movie, here's a quick super cut of the tea moments. Time for tea. Tea? Everyone goes home for tea. After tea. Is the pot warm? Always.
Starting point is 00:51:00 More tea. I did it all. What am I doing here? Having tea. Lucky if I didn't get the tea trolley. It's a lot of tea, a lot of tea. Yes. Do you think that... Yeah, go ahead. Her accent is so bad in the movie, it almost makes Ray Fine seem like he's doing a British guy.
Starting point is 00:51:20 I agree with that. He doesn't seem like he's the real British guy. Halfway through it starts to seem like, he's like Frazier. He's like some smart American guy. You almost start to just assume is kind of British also. Do you think that he dumbed down his accent to help him a Thurman? He's like, you know what? This is not going to fly, so I'll make my accent kind of bad too.
Starting point is 00:51:42 Just smear the whole thing. If you can't come to me, I will have to come to you so that we at least sound similar enough that this is believable slash this is not believable at all. Yes, you name your question. Names Bill, but I need to bring up cocaine on the table that she has. That if you don't notice that, that is totally fucked up. Where was that?
Starting point is 00:52:09 That's the first scene in the movie. She totally has five lines of cocaine. Uma or Tuma? Umah, Tuma, uma. Uh, but no, she totally has five lines of cocaine laid out on the table. Bro, I'm gonna need you to chill out on this cocaine. And he's like, oh, I mean, all this cocaine, right?
Starting point is 00:52:30 I mean, the movie is cocaine, right? Like, this guy is in a full body sweat. You could sit down, you could sit down. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, yeah, yeah. And is nobody gonna do those? Like, is nobody gonna, is nobody gonna do those lines? Like, can we get in there? Does anybody know where that Coke is now?
Starting point is 00:52:50 Wait, do you think it was Prop Coke or, like, real Coke? What was that? Was that real Coke? We should do Coke and figure it out. I'm going to be honest, man. I couldn't focus on the rest of the movie because I was like, nobody's doing that Coke. So she says Coke in front of her, Tom?
Starting point is 00:53:07 Is that what happened? It's in the very first, when she gets the chocolates delivered. Okay. She's sitting at the kitchen counter and there's clearly just, But maybe it's like scientific, like, molecules and stuff. Hold on. Hold on. Wait. Scientific molecules?
Starting point is 00:53:24 She's, like, testing out. She... What? Scientist. I don't know. Why are you protecting her? I don't know. Scientific molecules. Molecules, like atoms and stuff, whatever.
Starting point is 00:53:37 Do you think that she's doing a science experiment? Oh, wait a minute, though. Do you think those are scientific molecules that she's snorting up her nose? Possibly. Like protons and... A really good mental state to think up new business ideas. Possibly. I do want to talk to this gentleman here because he has a handwritten note on an iPad.
Starting point is 00:53:59 And I feel like... Also a three-piece suit. Yes. Are you dressed for the show? All right, he's dressed for the show. All right, your question, he's got a pen. All right, here we go. All right.
Starting point is 00:54:10 We haven't talked about how good father is blind. She can fly a weather balloon completely blind Fight completely blind Get into a car completely blind I think she's daredevil That was the question He put on a suit Not a question, not a question
Starting point is 00:54:31 So your conjecture is that in the movie The Avengers Father is daredevil I'll go one further and also say we assume she is blind. They've never said it. I assume she is likely not blind. What?
Starting point is 00:54:50 I didn't think she was blind. Yeah, I think she is not blind. She is blind, but no one ever, there's no exposition to explain it. How do you know she's blind? I don't know, but in the bigger script they explained it, but that was a big plot point they took out that she's blind. Can you be in this movie and not in the,
Starting point is 00:55:06 the other movie for two seconds? All right, your name and your question. My name is Corbynus. And I was wondering... Foreman? Corbett. Corbett. Corbett?
Starting point is 00:55:19 Corbett? He's got a question about Major League 3 Back to the Miners. Go ahead. No, more like John Corbett, like Sex of the City, John Corbett? Yes, John Corbett. I get it. I get it. We got it. All right, Corbett. Not Corbett.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Like John Corbett. Yes, we got it. We made a joke and you corrected us now. Corbett. Yes, Corbett. Everyone at home taking notes, it's Corbett. All right. Here we go. Your question. the scene where he's naked in the sonnet he's clearly expecting her to arrive
Starting point is 00:55:47 everyone else seems totally surprised that she's arrived but is he naked there waiting like for her that's the question is he he wants her to find him naked so is he trying to show off his junk for her because she checks out his junk
Starting point is 00:56:02 she does one of those like well here's the thing she finds him naked and I think yes the intention is that he will be naked and see what she does and what she does is she walks around so that she can see his dick. So I think that's them being like, oh, I'll take your challenge
Starting point is 00:56:19 and I'm going to try and make you uncomfortable. And there's like more sexual innuendo-like lines there that are not good. Also, when she walks into that gentleman's club, there are gentlemen, women haven't been allowed in this club since 17th or blah, blah. But the men react as if they've never seen a woman. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:37 Like, oh, or Godzilla. You know, which I think it would be like a little bit more subtle. By the way, that's the only reaction in the movie of any level. It seems like that's where all the people are. And doesn't it seem like the most uncomfortable thing ever would be to be naked in a steam room reading a newspaper? Newspaper with that ink possibly transferring. It would get soggy so fast.
Starting point is 00:57:04 Ink smeared all over your hands. Oh, no, I can't imagine. And he also brought his hat in there that he really cherished. But the hat would have gotten really bent out of shape. Yeah, absolutely. You don't want to get that hat real moist. You know what it is, is those lockers don't have locks on them. And he's just nervous about leaving it.
Starting point is 00:57:24 They're nervous about that hat, losing that hat. All right, your name of your question. My name is Megan. And my question is, if Sean Connery has the power of the weather at his disposal and he can use lightning, why does he send giant wasps to chase them down in the car? Giant what? An amazing question. the bugs, like the remote control
Starting point is 00:57:42 insect. That was like a real wild wild west giant robot spider moment. I was like, what are we doing now? Why do they have this again? Okay, here's the thing. Sean Connery has now invented
Starting point is 00:58:02 a functional badass robot that looks like Uma Thurman that he no doubt fucks according to Paul Sheer. And an armed of well-armed flying insects that have like machine guns on them, he is so capable with only those
Starting point is 00:58:18 two things, he needn't try and control the weather. That's not a part of it. Also, do you believe in global warming? What's that? Do you believe in global warming? Well, no, that's... No. No. I just realized a question I should have been asking in the audience
Starting point is 00:58:37 before, so I'm going to do it with you for the first time. We have a couple more questions here, but in your best Sean Connery voice, say your name, and then ask your question. And if you could do them both in the Sean Connery voice, I'll take it. My name is Peter. Oh, my God. Take a bow.
Starting point is 00:58:57 Take a bow. Take a bow. Peter, take a bow. I just wanted to let June know that both of them are 511 according to the internet. Come on. And second, in the sauna, he says you don't play by the rules. He invited
Starting point is 00:59:14 her there, and he's surprised that she broke in. I was just very confused. Amazing. Amazing. You're going to get a free, I'll give you that free poster. Wow.
Starting point is 00:59:29 Well, June, you just got burned. How does that feel? I don't believe that. I think she's, I don't believe it. So I feel fine. Somebody calls Starly Klein and let's do a follow-up
Starting point is 00:59:40 to her mystery show episode where she measures Jake Gyllenhaal. Let's get her out there with measuring tape for Ray Fines and Mithermann. No, I mean, UMA Thurman is a very tall woman. She's probably 5-11. Sure.
Starting point is 00:59:51 But he is not. You think he's lying upwards? Yes. And maybe she's lying down. Maybe she's like six two. Maybe. But he's like, that is too tall. Do you think he got measured wearing the hat?
Starting point is 01:00:05 Possibly. All right, who has a good question? Really, if you have confidence in your question. All right, Sean Connery it up. Here we go. My name is Eli. Great. Pretty good.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Good. So the only time in the movie where we see the Black Widow Scarlet Johansson cat suit is on Tuma and all of a sudden at the end Uma is wearing the cat suit. How does she get it? Is she Tuma? Or did they pillage the dead body of Tuma from the
Starting point is 01:00:35 Blimp? Wait, isn't Huma wearing a different cat suit though? She's wearing a red one at one point in the movie. Don't wag your finger at me, young lady. No. I don't appreciate being scolded by girl in second row.
Starting point is 01:00:52 I don't know. Oh. Again, I think, I think Uma as the actress is most comfortable in a cat suit. And so maybe just decided she did. I mean, she looked good in and kill Bill? She's in kind of a cat suit too. She looks great in a cat suit. Do you think Quentin Tarantino, when he saw her, like, fighting in this thing was kind of like, we're going to have to unlearn some stuff here before we start filming Kill Bill. Yeah, that's not the way you'll be swinging a sword in this movie.
Starting point is 01:01:22 Our final question here, right, is from somebody that you may recognize from one of our last New York episodes. We've been talking over here, so sir, you can do your question right now. Thank you. Last year at the TMNT Secret of the Ouse episode. Uh-oh. Adam Pally thought my big question was going to be proposing to my very embarrassed girlfriend, who's sitting here next to me. Oh. And last year after the show, she said, you've said,
Starting point is 01:01:52 should have done it and I said I know I should have. So I'm sorry I'm sorry that this is for a movie that you only could watch 36 minutes of. Do it in a Sean Connery accent. Oh and I know you wish that they did Pauly Shore's son-in-law tonight because it's one of your favorite movies and would be perfect for the how-do-this-get-made canon. So in the presence of three of our favorite people in the entire world, will you accept this mission? Congratulations. She said yes. And this is awkward and so exciting, but, like, you guys are going to take a while to get married, like, if you want to go out and hang out a little bit.
Starting point is 01:03:36 I'm invited? Great. Thank you. Thank you. I will be there. That was terrific. That was amazing. Suck it, L.A. audiences. New York gets married. Oh, yeah. Okay. We are, we're wrapping up here, but before we do, I want to first tell you
Starting point is 01:03:59 if you want to understand how this movie actually got made, our great friend and author, Blake Harris, who's been doing these amazing, how did this get made articles, who's here tonight, Blake is here, he spoke to the director. The director... Where are you, Blake? Where are you, Blake?
Starting point is 01:04:15 He's over there. All right, Blake is over here. Give it up for Blake Harris. You got this director to talk about a lot of stuff. One of the things he does want to do is re-edit this movie for free, but I don't know if he's told you that, but this is, so you have a very
Starting point is 01:04:32 in-depth story with him. You can read that on slashfilm.com, but give it up for Blake, his amazing articles, you haven't read them, they're great. If you have a question or correction, an omission, an explanation, hope, whatever you want to call it, you can always leave it for us on our hotline,
Starting point is 01:04:52 619, Paul Ask. Paul Ask. No. 619, Paul Ask, ASK. Right, but if you call 619, Paul, ass. It's a different line. It has nothing to do with this show. It has nothing to do with this show. Just talking butt. Talking buns.
Starting point is 01:05:11 Talking cheeks. We talk a lot about butts, but that's for something different, very different project. You can hear that on the Gimlet Network doing a whole show about asses. It's great. So, you can do stuff like this, and this is all on every one of our new mini-episodes. Take a listen. This is what you get. Master of the Universe,
Starting point is 01:05:35 Sean Connery in Zardaws, or Rowdy, Roddy Piper, and Hell Comes to Frogtown. So he wants to know, F. Mary Kill, Dahl Fungren and Master of the Universe, Roddy Piper in Hell Comes to Frogtown, and... What's the other one?
Starting point is 01:05:52 Sean Connery and Zardaz. Anyone want to take a crack? I don't remember any of these movies. I don't. You like... I blasts them out. You are like a mind wipe happens afterwards. You're moments away from forgetting this movie.
Starting point is 01:06:08 It's God. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I. I think you got to fuck Sean Conner from Zardaz because he's down for that. I think you got to kill, uh, rowdy, Roddy Piper, because I don't want that. And you got to marry Del Flunker because he's true of heart and he's going to make a good husband. Yeah, I agree. That's a pretty good one. Except we know that Rowdy, Roddy, Roddy Piper is great at six.
Starting point is 01:06:34 Tom, do you see any of those movies? Look, this is the Casper Podcast Lounge. This is not the Serta. I'm not gonna talk about filth like that in the Casper podcast lounge. But no, to be fair, if you're gonna fuck any of those folks, you should do it on a Casper mattress.
Starting point is 01:07:01 All right, is now time for second opinion. First is the worst, second is the best, Where can I get opinions off my chest? Thank you, Amazon. T. Amazing. That was great. Brought his own prop.
Starting point is 01:07:25 That was great. Turn it into a dubstep song, Internet. That was fantastic. Love the Prop. All right. So there were only 25 reviews total for this movie. Okay, that equate. So basically there are like 10 to 12 pages of reviews.
Starting point is 01:07:45 This is the smallest reviewed movie. ever. Nate Kylie compiled these, and here we go. Five stars. Five stars. If you like subtle, dry humor, please rejoice. Now, this is the thing that is unfortunately bad about this movie. The majority of five-star reviews are kind of like this. To be completely honest, I can't be objective here. I'm a big fan of the Marvel movie franchise. And this is a worthy entry to that canon. The action is wonderful, the effects are astounding, the humor is always on hand, and more importantly, on point.
Starting point is 01:08:22 And the N-tag was just understated funny. I had to go out and try Schwarma myself afterwards. Five stars. A lot of them are Avenger reviews. No, wait. But is that from someone who watched Avengers and then wrote the review
Starting point is 01:08:40 in the wrong place? Or watched this movie thinking it was Marvel's the Avengers. No. Because they talk about Schwarma, so that has to be Marvel. Oh, you're right. How great would it be if at the end of, people sit for like two hours and 45 minutes through an Avengers movie through the credits and at the end it's Ouma Thurman and Ray Fines do like a one minute scene.
Starting point is 01:09:04 You're like, when we don't have a lot of five stars, we do something called third opinions and third opinions are when we actually read the bad reviews and this is from a customer. Oh. Oh. Yeah. And it goes like this. And it goes like this.
Starting point is 01:09:19 I quit halfway through, and I always finish movies. Unfortunately, I got suckered in by, one, the great price point for a Blu-ray. Two, a great-looking cover. Three, what I heard was a plot based on a cool old British TV spy program. And five, some artificially high reviews from people...
Starting point is 01:09:45 Oh, sorry, four. from artificially high reviews from people who thought they were reviewing the Marvel's Avengers movies. Save your dough. It ain't worth it. And mine's going straight to my library as a donation.
Starting point is 01:10:01 Would be sad if this is the reason why Connery stopped making movies. One star. Did this movie come out before or after League of Extraordinary Gentlemen? This is right before, then League followed it and then it was done. So he has a library of donated movies?
Starting point is 01:10:18 I think he means donating into like his public library. Straight to the library for donating movies. Is that the only way libraries get movies? No, I think they buy them. I think they get them. Imagine that library seeing him coming through the door again with another one. This shitty purchases. This is for everybody else now.
Starting point is 01:10:37 Oh, thank you so much. Thank you. Trash. And finally, for the first time ever, a fourth opinion. This is a rare four-star review. Didn't watch it, can't wait two. Four stars. By Mr. Salmon.
Starting point is 01:10:57 That was this December? That was Mr. Salmon. I wish that we could get a follow-up from him. Finally watched it. Pre-suicidal. I want to end, but I also want to just talk about one thing that I don't think anyone realized because if you're like me, you shut this off immediately
Starting point is 01:11:17 when the credits rolled. But they got Grace Jones to kind of do a gold finger-esque song. Yeah, and it's just worth listening to just for a second or so to get the idea. It's like it's such a bond rip-off. Strange weather. So that is, if you want to hear the full Grace Jones version of Strange Weather. Which we all definitely do. Anything we didn't cover, anything you guys want to bring up, anything at all.
Starting point is 01:11:54 I'm trying to think. I feel like there was stuff I wrote down. that was just, all this stuff where they would put Kairons up about like who people were. And like, oh, the ministry, this is the ministry. I was like, why? That always was unnecessary to me.
Starting point is 01:12:09 I kept talking, I kept taking notes about how few people there were. I just want to say, I'm turning this over my head. I really have nothing against, you know. I don't see height. I don't see height. Why? You don't see height.
Starting point is 01:12:26 I don't. I felt like they were bad spies. Like when they get to, every time they are forced with a decision in the field, they make the wrong decision. Like to enter a hedge maze. And then once they enter the hedge maze, they're like, we should split up.
Starting point is 01:12:48 We should split up to get through this. Like, no. And then a man who's so good at being aware of everything, basically lets his self get distracted by an umbrella. He's like, oh, umbrella. Where'd he go? Where'd he go? The dumbest.
Starting point is 01:13:06 There's a lot of mazes in this movie for no good reason and that make no sense. Like when Uma Thurman keeps on running into the same room, I don't even understand how that works. One need has something to do with the fact that there's no people left and so he has no security other than creating mazes around his compound. Also, when father is... trying to get away with Tuma Thurman,
Starting point is 01:13:30 their mode of transport is a hot air balloon. What? No. It's very slow. It's wildly noticeable. You know where you don't blend in, floating in the sky? Also, it's not a quick getaway.
Starting point is 01:13:47 And the weather's terrible. Yeah. Tom, any other, anything else that we may have missed? Just that they do that thing where when Ray Fine squares off with Sean Conner it's like, oh, a little trick I learned in Istanbul when I do it's like, what is that like every
Starting point is 01:14:13 British person? It's like Mr. Belvedere when he was always talking about just like something I learned from the Maharaja. Belvedere was a lot in this movie. There was a lot of Belvedere references. They should have just put him in it.
Starting point is 01:14:31 I love Mr. Belvedere. He would have made a good version of Jim Broadbent's character. Jim, I felt so bad for Jim Broadbent's character It always looked like they were putting tons of dandruff on his Clothes and it always looked like he was wearing like a wet diaper Well, that is a... In a sexy way, though. Tom, obviously people can listen to you on one of my favorite podcasts,
Starting point is 01:14:59 The Best Show. And if they've never heard the Best Show, they could get into the Best Show by listening to The Best Show Gems, also on iTunes, It's both free podcasts. Yeah. Thebestshow.net. All right. Well, we loved having you here.
Starting point is 01:15:16 What do we want to plug here? You can visit us on our Facebook page. You can also visit us on HDTGM on Twitter. June? I'd like to plug the second season of Grace and Frankie, which is streaming on Netflix. Lady Dynamite on Netflix with Mary Bamford. It's amazing.
Starting point is 01:15:37 I'm in a couple episodes. Yeah. I'm also a little bit in Lady Dynamite and it just... I never saw you there. Huh? I never saw you there. I asked to not be in any of your episodes.
Starting point is 01:15:50 Which is wonderful. Maria Bamford's new wonderful show that is on Netflix. And that's it. I will plug a show that I co-created called Filthy Preppy Teens on the full-screen app. What's full-screen app?
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Starting point is 01:16:20 and pretty little liars and stuff like that. A big thank you to Vulture Fest. A big thank you to Blake Harris. A big thank you to April Halley. A big thank you to John DeLore. A big thank you to everybody here at Earwolf. July Diaz. Nate Kylie.
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