How Did This Get Made? - The Dog Who Saved Christmas LIVE!

Episode Date: December 1, 2023

Home Alone with a dog?! What more do you want, people! LIVE from the Riviera Theatre in Chicago, Paul, June, and Jason break down the 2009 made-for-TV holiday comedy The Dog Who Saved Christmas starri...ng Mario Lopez & Dean Cain. The crew discuss bobo Kevin James, the family's disgusting house, the disturbing bathtub scene, the talking toilet, and why Mario Lopez is the Vin Diesel of this franchise. Plus, they ask "Was the criminals' original plan supposed to be a Funny Games scenario?" Go to hdtgm.com for tour dates, merch, and more!Follow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer/HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheerCheck out Paul and Rob Huebel live on Twitch (www.twitch.tv/friendzone) every Thursday 8-10pm ESTSubscribe to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson here: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael here: www.thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcastCheck out The Jane Club over at www.janeclub.comCheck out new HDTGM merch over at https://www.teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmWhere to find Jason, June & Paul:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on Twitter

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Starting point is 00:01:05 And hello, people over Chicago! The holiday season is upon us, and what better way to celebrate than the 2009 classic, The Dog Who Saved Christmas. A movie that will make you hate the holidays. It is like a really bad episode of the King of Queens. It's like the stand-ins for the King of Queens shot an episode after hours. That like an audience member wrote. And this movie, wow, I've never taken more notes ever. I had five pages of notes and 40 minutes left. I'm glad that we're here to ignite to talk about it because I need someone to validate that what I saw was real. And you will all do that. But here's the most important part.
Starting point is 00:02:26 I will not be doing it alone. We will not be doing it alone. We'll be doing it with my co-host. Please welcome to the stage, Mr. Jason Manzookas. Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh!
Starting point is 00:02:38 Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! What's up, jerks? Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! What's up, jerks? Here we go, Chicago. How we feeling?
Starting point is 00:02:52 That's right. That's right. Jason, the dog who saves Christmas just like a reaction to what you saw, just a general just such. I'll be honest, I think we need to start the podcast as soon as possible. It is already fading into dust in my mind and the roar of the crowd that you just have to get started. June Diane Rayfield give it up for June. We have to get started. Welcome June. How are you? I'm okay, Paul. I'm okay. I I I I knew that we were on limited time because I knew you have to get out of it too. What's
Starting point is 00:03:34 that? I said I knew we were on limited time because I knew you had to get out here too to talk about this movie. Thank you. I was waiting backstage. I just wanted to give a nice clean, you know, introduction to you. That's all. So Paul, when we were watching the movie, he stopped it at one point. Just out of curiosity. Were you watching it together? Because it's important to, OK, thank you.
Starting point is 00:03:53 We were. But as we were watching the movie, he said, this movie is about dog trauma. And I said it really is. And I, Paul and I have both experienced a lot of dog trauma in the last, I would say like, honestly, year. We've had a lot of dog trauma. We've had a lot of dog trauma. And yet, I could not emotionally connect to a thing
Starting point is 00:04:22 that was happening in this movie. It was like I was dead. Like I kept on asking myself, do you feel, do you bleed, do you? I feel like nothing. I would believe it if you told me that wasn't a real dog. I don't feel anything. I don't feel anything. That was a sack of potatoes.
Starting point is 00:04:38 I didn't feel anything for the dog. I didn't feel anything for Bobo Kevin James. I didn't feel anything for it. Kevin James. I didn't feel anything for. By running it. I wrote it, I wrote it. I have the same note. Holy shit. I was like, this is trying to be Kevin James.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Guess what I found out. It's his brother. It's his real life brother. Is it really? Yes. Who was also on the King of Queens? Whoa! Years, this time, years.
Starting point is 00:05:10 This feels like a movie that the Russians made. That's like, that somehow is tricking us. You know what I mean? Like, it feels like somehow it's anti-American propaganda that they're showing there to people to be like, this is what they're doing! It's like one of those like videos that you see on TikTok where it's like five minute like hobbies or like five minute crafts crafts It's like someone like saw Christmas movies like oh, I can do that. Here's the thing I felt watching this movie having just now spent however many months inside of myriad
Starting point is 00:05:54 Work stoppages for all these unions unions and all this discussion let AI make these movies AI could do a better job. Let AI be saved Christmas. Do it, please. Here is what I will say. This is, at your point, like the Russian propaganda you're talking about, this is the uncanny valley. It's like, when you look at it,
Starting point is 00:06:22 it's like, the bloopers almost made me kill myself. And I'm not kidding. The bloopers pushed me to a breaking point. I know. Because I was like, none of this is funny. When, well, I disagree. None of this is funny. This is forced.
Starting point is 00:06:40 I disagree that a human fart. OK. Joey Coco Diaz, give it up for Joey Coco Diaz. Who is doing the Lord's work in this? The Lord's work in a movie that I wish AI had created. Because that real fart was funny, but the rest of the bloopers honestly gave me a panic. Me too, because, you know, and sometimes I have found this on my own experience working as an actress in Hollywood,
Starting point is 00:07:12 that the more fun people are having on set, like the less funny and movie's going to be. Like the more good times we're having, and I did say this to Paul, because we kept on going to the league. Shout out the league. We can talk about it now. We kept on going to the league rap parties. And at the rap parties every year, I don't know if you remember this Jason, but they would show a blooper reel of all the actors just cutting
Starting point is 00:07:42 up the real. They could get each other laugh, going off on riffs, improvising to get, and just making each other laugh. And in every yard watch, I'd watch this real, and Paul would never be in it. Like he wouldn't have him, he would always, people would be breaking and he'd be. Waiting, waiting to get back to work. I was waiting and I said, I said Paul, this rap party is for the crew to remark, and for
Starting point is 00:08:11 the other actors, like, do you want to remind ourselves what a good time we have together? And you look like you hate being there. And I said, no, I just don't break up on set that much. And, and June's like, well, you have to do better. So if you look at the DVDs or whatever, the extras, seasons five, six, and seven, I fake laugh in all the bloopers. He had to. I was like, you have to. I'm like, I guess I have to, uh, wait a minute. We're in bloopers together. That's a fake
Starting point is 00:08:41 laugh. I'm not even breaking. It's all fake. I'll put you back on the list. I will break you. A lot of your things. It wasn't like, it wasn't to me, like, this isn't funny. I just never, like, we also, we performed on stage a bunch. And it's like, I'm just built to be right.
Starting point is 00:09:00 And I don't make you laugh there, either? No. No, but like, in those days. No wonder I haven't been on on spool. Ha ha ha ha. How did this get me? So the movie is about dog trauma. And yet, none of us could connect emotionally to it.
Starting point is 00:09:16 It's a PTSD. It is. But what's so hard is I never understood why doesn't she want a dog? Why does he want a dog? Why can't the dog stay here? Why does he want a dog? Why can't the dog stay here? Why did they want a dog to bark? Why is that the sum total?
Starting point is 00:09:31 Why is that the sum total of its value? But also, why are we creating a problem that does not exist? It's an impossibility. It's like, oh, they get the perfect dog, but it doesn't bark. But here's the thing, they're nervous about the rash of wet bandits, tile robberies. Midday, midday robberies in the same neighborhood. They live in a quote unquote, mansion.
Starting point is 00:10:00 I was, they, I loved every minute. I was Dean Kane, right? Dean Kane and Joey Coco Diaz are the wet bandits. And truly, the wet bandits, they are... When this could be turned into home-along starring a dog, I was like, okay, I guess I'll jump out the window of this hotel when I realized that police had surrounded all of this city and I was like, oh, they know.
Starting point is 00:10:24 What do they know? Here's what I will say about those wet bandits. And again, that's the plot of the movie is that they're convinced it has to be a child, but it's a dog. At one point, Joey Coco Diaz says, look, they're leaving. They're going somewhere, okay, they're going somewhere.
Starting point is 00:10:45 And then Dean canes, like, this will make it so much easier. Which was the most, oh, fuck. Like, is it one that's supposed to be like a home invasion? Like, if they were there, it's a funny game. Yeah. He's, Dean canes's ready to funny games. Kevin James' brother. That's right up.
Starting point is 00:11:08 I know. That's what was so scary. And then when they get to the house in the front door, they seemingly have no plan. It's like they popped a rob. I'm going to say this. When they're in the house, they have no plan. Yeah, they're not stealing.
Starting point is 00:11:24 They're in the house they have no plan. Yeah, they're not stealing, they're in the house for hours. And Joey Coco Dia steals two sandwiches, two bites of two sandwiches, not even full sandwiches. They seem like they're aspirational criminals. Because at one point they go, we've been casing this house for days But why because when you look in that house there's nothing of value in there Shit hole it's absolutely the worst air B&B rental I feel I feel like the movie was decorated from a yard sale Or a clean market Everything in there was disgusting. There's two there's mice. It's just
Starting point is 00:12:11 I'm sorry. There are white mice. There are laboratory mice living in the house I don't think exist out in the wild like I've never seen them I don't think it exists out in the wild like that. I've never seen them. I've never seen them. I don't know why I never do. Don't look at there's a white man. I never do. Two of them.
Starting point is 00:12:29 And what we would do. Cut that out though. Cut it out. That's a cut point. Cut that out. I don't want people knowing what I said about white mice. When min, first of all, min, he's sterling in this movie.
Starting point is 00:12:40 And I love her so much. She is, you know, she's so incredible. And I saw her in this movie. And I, and then I saw her in the blooper reels, and she seemed like she was having a good time. So, but I was so distressed to see her. If that, Jack, Cash is, you're having a great time. I was so distressed to see her. But when we go to grandma's house, Mindy Sterling,
Starting point is 00:12:58 and we're going to talk about like the age ranges of like the age. I looked it up, everyone's 37. Okay. From the youngest kid to the oldest adult, they're all 37. What I will say about this perform, first of all, never have a brother and sister together that are that far apart in age
Starting point is 00:13:23 and are seemingly like always together engaging and interested in the same stuff. But they also have that kind of weird childhood thing. I wrote this down and this is something I wrote down. Paul don't say this is not going to get a laugh, but I'm going to say it. And this is like, he says to his parents and they're driving. When are we going gonna get there? Which is an odd thing to say.
Starting point is 00:13:49 It's like, are we there yet? How long till we get there? But when are we gonna get there? It's like, it's just like weird translations. It's like, that's the right question for a kid. But I've never heard him, what are we gonna get there? Well, then I know, and I believe it. If you said, oh, the screen play was written in a different language,
Starting point is 00:14:09 and then Google translated to English. Yeah, that's what I've thought. Actually, you would make a lot more sense to it. The movie would make more sense if in any way, shape or form, it was built off of AI, generated from a different language, from another world, part of a sentence that these people are forced to carry out. This is like that movie specialist.
Starting point is 00:14:34 I feel under duress. I think the reason why this movie gets started on the wrong foot. The reason why we have a hard time connecting is because we start off with the dog in voiceover and Mario Lopez is the dog and Christmas King of all Mario Lopez is all the dogs what? Did not realize that I mean well, I don't know I didn't look it up, but I think I Almost positive
Starting point is 00:15:10 I think he's doing the voice of all of those wait a second. Can you play clip five? Hey boys? What's happening? Look at what we got here fellas a newbie. I need a little bus like the Greek god Wow fancy name for a street dog. Yeah fancy name That's Mario Lopez. That's not Mario Lopez. Yes it is. It's Mario Lopez! Mario Lopez, I said she's not- Really? Tell us, tell us! One time I rescued the steel mill worker from a firey in front of him. And he told me. Thank you, Doctor.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Thank you. Save my life. So what are you doing here? That's a long story. I'm just waiting for a family to take me home and give me a chance. Oh, sure. And my new owner is gonna ride in on his white horse
Starting point is 00:16:06 and whisk me away to a place where milk bones are gold-plated. It's not Mario Lopez, June. We can cut it. We're now just watching them movie together. And I'll be honest, I mean, mere hours ago, I was watching this, none of this familiar. Zero is already gone. I was watching this none of this familiar Zero I already got I was surprised at how much I forgot but here's what I'll say my point again is that our lead-in And if you played all the dogs or not, which I don't think he did our lead check Okay, our lead-in does any I feel like one of these nerds would know is Mario Lopez the voice of all the dogs?
Starting point is 00:16:44 No Does any I feel like one of these nerds would know is Mario Lopez the voice of all the dogs? No, thank you Nerds there's a couple people who said yes, and I appreciate you But you're wrong and I like that you support June so hard to say and but here's the challenge if we are in if June You are in fact drawing Mario Lopez do the right thing and send us a clip of all the voices done by you Give us the Snyder cut of the dog who saved Christmas when I watched this right thing and send us a clip of all the voices done by you. Give us the Snyder cut of the dog who saved Christmas. When I watched this, I was like, oh, that's fun. They had him in the booth for Zeus, obviously.
Starting point is 00:17:13 And then they let him just fuck around a little bit and do all the other things. Yeah, let me just say one thing. I just want to say about him in this voice. Again, I think the reason why we don't connect is because when you open this movie, Marlope is screaming voice over. And it was shocking that he was a dog. He's like, hey, what's going on anyway? Christmas is the best time of year. He's like, oh, okay. And then it was
Starting point is 00:17:37 like a dog. It unnerved me. Because first of all, I think for, I've never heard anyone yell voice over. Voice over normally is more contemplative, it's quiet, it's not like, it's not like pricinium acting. And I try to disagree, but okay. But I felt like that beginning put me on the wrong foot.
Starting point is 00:18:01 I didn't like this dog. Well, it also sets up a much different movie. Yes. It sets up a much different movie. Yes. It sets up a much different movie, the bombast of this character. It also felt to me jarringly like a movie I barely remember, but which is Eric Roberts voicing a cat that we did. A talking cat.
Starting point is 00:18:17 It gave me those memories. No, I didn't forget that. But here's the thing. So Mario Lopez is Zeus, and he's just wandering around the streets, and he's like, well, I guess I'll turn myself in. So, like, he turns himself into the pound in hopes that a family will find him and rescue him. Meanwhile, what's really fascinating to me is that the guy who runs the pound or the animal shelter or whatever is able to know all of the dogs actual names.
Starting point is 00:18:45 Zeus, the Bronx, and they identify as Zeus and the Bronx, so does he understand dog? Not only does he know their names, he speaks back stories. Does he speak like dog at one point? He does. Who speaks dog? He, that, somebody speaks, right? I believe that that guy, And this is my fan fiction.
Starting point is 00:19:06 This is your head cannon? This is my, like, is that in another lifetime movie, he is a dog who becomes a dog catcher. And so we're watching a little MCU of like, oh, if you know the backstory, he's actually a dog because no human would be as weird as he is. Yeah. He is, like, and this is an old reference, but he's a pitch.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Oh, I mean, I'm ready to reveal the backstory. He was a dog, and he's the dog who became the dog catcher, and now he's like trying to get all the dogs that are in dog prison to find good homes. And to a certain point, he's a terrible dog catcher, he's like, would you take two for one like their cans of soup and of course not would you take two for one and then in the outtakes he said would you take a half a dog with two legs I thought he was funny I mean look I will say the majority of
Starting point is 00:20:03 this movie seemed largely poorly improvised. Yes. In a way that, as, and it seemed to get more so as it went on, so much so that I was like, at the end of the movie, I was like, I feel like they're just loose improvising, half takes, and they're printing that, and that's it. Well, like that line where Joey Coco Dia says, you got that, he said, no, I don't need, I don't need a nose job, which seemed like an improvised moment.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Big time. Right, because Jean-Kane, attractive man, on the outside, on the inside, not so much. Um, but he says, you need a nose job. That's a joke, right? Okay, get these. He's like, no, no, I don't need a nose job. I have a deviated septum.
Starting point is 00:20:43 And then he says, in your living room, or something about your house. And then Dean Kane says, yes. Yeah. Yeah. I wrote that one too. The other one that I wrote was. You promised about saying yes.
Starting point is 00:20:55 We've all learned that. The other one I wrote was, at the end of the movie, they come into the house. The robbers have been caught and everything. And I can't remember what the main woman's name is, but she comes in and says, oh, George, what is it? Blinda.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Blinda, thank you. Blinda comes in and says, oh, George, look at this mess. He says, well, you know, we got robbed. So this is what it's gonna look like. And that, this is, these are the lines. And then I'm gonna go back, I'm gonna go back to the beginning,
Starting point is 00:21:24 and we can unpack this moment as much as we want but when Goldman's Chinese food comes in wow This was some wild stuff the Jewish delivery man Like this is a commentary on delivery man, like this is a commentary on,
Starting point is 00:21:46 there's so much you have. What's it a commentary on? I actually, I would love to try and figure out what is this commentary on? Well, first of all, I think this movie, this movie does not like anyone or understand anyone who doesn't celebrate Christmas because the minute was like, why does that woman not have Christmas sites up?
Starting point is 00:22:03 And the only reason is that she's a scrooge. Also, not that she doesn't celebrate Christmas. That's not even in the equation. It's like, she must take Christmas. And also, every single person in the movie, including the robbers believes in Santa full stop. Adults alone with each other speak with absolute certainty as to the existence and scheduling of Santa's arrival,
Starting point is 00:22:35 at which point I was like, no. No, this isn't the world that exists. I didn't have a problem with that part. I think that is done because they know that kids are gonna sneak in to watch these, like, you know, these Walmart- But these kids, they're like, well, what if Santa comes? Well, he doesn't come into later. I was like, hang on!
Starting point is 00:22:55 Guys, I have an update. This guy's not coming at all. These poor robbers think Santa is real. When I will say this, that opening, we're talking about the poor improv in the film, an improv is hard, you know, whatever, but the... No, it's not. When Chicago, where improv started,
Starting point is 00:23:22 the annoyance, second city, improv Olympic. That's right. Yes. So, Del Close, Sharna Del Per. Sharna Del Per. So when Goldman's T.J. and Dave. Jack McBrayer. Boo. Jack Mcbrair. Boo!
Starting point is 00:23:49 When that man comes in, and I don't even wanna deal with that just yet, but when that man comes in and goes, nice woman, and he's like, oh yeah, I'm talking about your wife. The immediate response from Bobo Kevin James is, she's kosher, which was another disturbing, what does that mean? I didn't understand any of it and I hated every minute of it. And was offering to him?
Starting point is 00:24:21 She's kosher. She's kosher. It did feel like he was branding her like meat, not like- Not dairy? Oh, sorry, yes. Or I guess it's not a mix of the two. I just felt like he wasn't saying like it's kosher, like when you say like it's all okay.
Starting point is 00:24:40 I felt like he was like, no, no, you can eat her. And that's why that's what I took it as. It wasn't like she's cool. It was like, you can eat her as a Jewish man. Yeah, it would have been worse if he was like, don't even go there, bro, she's trache. Okay. Okay, okay, okay, Jews of Chicago. Okay, and this is my other issue with this movie.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Ultimately, it's a Christmas movie, clearly shot in California. They are forcing these people into hats and jackets and on the sunniest of all days. And the most like, it is beautiful, foliage just out, you know, and this means nothing to most people, but this was shot in Los Angeles and the opening sequence was shot in a mall that is very known in LA. It's called the Grove, but it's also really badly shot. Like it felt like they're like, oh shit. Send that internet with his iPhone and just grab a bunch of shots from the mall.
Starting point is 00:25:47 We'll use it in something. It's too dark. And then when they shot stuff, like there's just like an empty chair and like two dudes standing around a chair. And there's like a candy cane near them. It's like, this is a really connote Christmas to me. It just feels like you shot in the sand and shopping mall.
Starting point is 00:26:05 That's a great idea. That's a soap setting out of this movie in general. Two things that I love, dogs and Christmas. I now hate. I don't. I hated all of the Christmas lights, the Christmas ornaments, things that bring me so much comfort and joy. I started again.
Starting point is 00:26:21 The Christmas was not present in this movie. And by the way, for a movie where adults believe in Santa, and everybody believes in Santa, were the fuck was Santa? Where was Santa? Where was Santa? You don't need Santa when the dog Zeus is there. Well, what there were, okay,
Starting point is 00:26:39 but there were footsteps at one point on the roof. There were. Was that Zeus? I believe so. I think Zeus get on the roof. I don't know. I think he was that's when he was putting the bowling balls in action.
Starting point is 00:26:51 I don't know. By the way, Zeus is up to some straight craziness in this morning. I don't mean to be a dog pervert. Oh, okay. He's don't be a pal. But is it something only a dog pervert. Okay. He's don't be a pal. But is something only a dog pervert says?
Starting point is 00:27:09 I will say, I will say the most chemistry in the movie is not quite Kevin James and the dog having a bath together. Oh wait. Like that is the most compelling romantic narrative in the movie. That is- And the presumption is the married couple fuck. There's so much. I just want to just, but I want to get everyone's opinion here. I don't mean to be a dog pervert.
Starting point is 00:27:37 Like I said that, so we're cool. Zeus is a lady. And almost aggressively so. Like, even just an eye check. I don't need to check underneath. I'm like, I got it. But your fingers down for a spot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Like that? You know what? I believed you when you said I don't mean to be a dog pervert until every physical motion. These are the physical motions of a dog pervert. That's the t-shirt. It's Paul's year doing this and it says I'm not a dog pervert. Chicago potted this get made 2023. That's the shirt. 23 that's the shirt But I Don't like that at all I mean that's
Starting point is 00:28:33 Carefully that is trying to get the dogs g spot. I don't know what you're up to but that's what that is This dog's gonna squirt But that's what that is. This dog's gonna squirt Hear me out Chicago That's the shirt. Hear me out Chicago. The dog's gonna squirt Chicago All right You brought up the bath scene which I think is
Starting point is 00:29:02 one of the most disturbing sequences in this film In cinema history In cinema history Let's take a look at scene six. I don't want Watching you creeps This is a little awkward George, don't you think? The dog does not want to be there. The dog is looking away. The most damning moment comes in just a second.
Starting point is 00:29:37 When the dog puts a head down, there it goes. You know I'm talking about that? The dog's like, do you know what it's like to be a man? He's trying to hold his arm up so he can get the dog head in frame. Dog does not want to be in that tub. Dog is like, I'm gonna drown myself. The dog is trying to drown itself. You can be able to bark. I couldn't talk to him.
Starting point is 00:29:57 I was six, which is like 42 in your years. Okay. This is, he's talking in this scene to the dog dog more than his talk to his wife in the entire movie Has anyone Okay, you can go that has anyone ever Taking all their clothes off and gotten in a bath With their dog No, I'm not gonna lie when I saw that I was like hmm like that I
Starting point is 00:30:24 Was like oh I've never what though. What does that mean? When I saw that, I was like, hmm, like that. I was like, oh, I never knew. What the, what does that mean? I was like, that would be a nice experience to have with a dog. Oh, okay. So you're saying that seems attractive, not like, that looks good.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Not at all. Okay. Just like, oh, if I had to give a dog a bath, I'd only give a dog's baths outside in our driveway, but that's seamless. Well, would you do every Saturday? You just give dogs baths every Saturday. Any dog that's walking by, yeah?
Starting point is 00:30:53 If you're a dog for a bath. Hey, can I give that dog a bath? Free dog baths, but I will say this. Not as a dog pervert, but you have too much valuable bits there that I feel like the palk and stomp on or like I need the more protection. I mean look I don't expect the dog not to understand that. So I expect you know it's like I just feel like why are you subjecting your own body to scratches? Anything you're too vulnerable. Like I mean to put them in a little tub, we had a little tub in our drive,
Starting point is 00:31:26 you do it up, you can wash them down, you can do it. You don't need to be in that, right? It's a choice of desires, not necessity. Yeah. That isn't, it would make sense to be there so that I can wash the dog, okay? No, that is, I wanna be in tub with dog. I know.
Starting point is 00:31:46 I am me too with dog. We are both tub now. I know. Okay, I'm talking to the dog. And I will say, there's something about Zeus, where I didn't connect with Zeus on the screen. I didn't feel what the dog itself. I didn't feel what Zeus was feeling,
Starting point is 00:32:03 and except for this scene where I was like, get Zeus out. Zeus doesn't want to be there. Zeus is not looking bobo, Kevin James in the eye. Zeus is looking away. Zeus is trying to kindly relay that she wants to go now. This guy is forcing himself on a lot of people. And I don't even, like, I felt like he was trying to lip kiss
Starting point is 00:32:30 this wife multiple times and she's like, Cheek. I did too. Cheek. Cheek, please. He's also, I think, either it's improvising or maybe it is part of the script, but he's improvising and trying to put onto the dog,
Starting point is 00:32:45 the traumas of his character's youth. Which by the way, though, Jason, what happened to him in that dog? Who knows? Did the dog, did Duke? He had to put his dog down, but it's like, Why? Because when we see that scene where he says,
Starting point is 00:33:01 he's playing with Duke or whatever that dog's name is, and in the flashback, and then his mom calls him in for dinner and says stop playing with Duke. I'm like, well, what did Duke run out and get hit by a car? What happened? But I mean, the back story. Yeah, oh, good. The Zeus is like, he says he's the spitting image of my dog. And in this scene, we weren't listening to it, but he's having some sort of like heart to heart with like his own part. Both of them are traumatized and we are to believe through the events of this movie, healed. They are healed. And their back hoars are fuzzy. Their back stories are fuzzy. It's like, this dog doesn't bark because he blew a six-year or five-year under-couple operation. And his partner's trigger finger was injured and he can't shoot straight anymore. Now, why do I know that? Why do I know that? Why do I care? I had so many feelings about that.
Starting point is 00:34:05 I'm like the fact that they didn't kill a cop was it felt like very strategic and pointed. Like why was that backstory so... I also don't understand how a dog could blow a fire. By barking? By barking a fire by barking but like But like the dog isn't where okay, but listen how well how Affairs internal affairs is investigating the dog I a is on it and First of all I thought German shepherds were police dogs. Yes. Okay, so I'm not a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a good, a What was going on? Was the five year undercover operation simply that they were behind a wall the entire time?
Starting point is 00:35:06 Well, you've got a live dog and then the dog by barking. What I wanted to see. What I wanted to see. In K9 Quarterly. Oh, I love it. They blew this whole thing wide open. What I wanted to see was one of those cops get killed and our dog has to like
Starting point is 00:35:23 lap up the blood blood of a badge. Absolutely. And really understand why it's so traumatizing. Everybody should get killed. Everybody should have been killed. And the dog is, honestly, Zeus should have been shot too. Yes. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Zeus, in the throat. But in a movie, a movie, I'm gonna think of how good the movie would have been. If it started with that shootout and Zeus barring, all the cops are dying and as they're dying, they're saying, but will Santa know where I am this year because I believe in Santa, even though I'm a police officer,
Starting point is 00:36:03 dying in the line of duty. I still believe in Santa. And he goes, oh, oh, oh, you get cold for Christmas. Missette Joey's coca-dea says, I don't want cold in my stocking again this year. Again. He got it last year from Santa.
Starting point is 00:36:23 I also had an issue with the dog's behavior Santa I also had an issue with the dog's behavior because Zeus shows us no Bad behavior. He seems like a perfect dog. This mom does not really want around. Then he makes one fatal mistake Which I would argue was a blessing destroying that disgusting gingerbread house That was terrible normally when I see a movie I'm like, oh my god, how do they make that gingerbread house. That was terrible. Normally when I see a movie, I'm like, oh my god, how do they make that gingerbread house? I could never do that. Here, I'm like, I could do a better job. It was structurally unsound to begin with.
Starting point is 00:36:54 You don't put a giant Hershey kiss on such a narrow footing. It was doomed to break. And yes, the dog may have just gotten that, but for him to be given away because he just moved in the house. And that seems like it set up a chain of events where he just became a bad dog. I have a question for you because the whole family seems to genuinely fall immediately in love with the dog. Except the mom. Grudgingly, the mom begrudgingly. And she's, bit bit you know she still I think has a real love for the dog
Starting point is 00:37:25 But it needs to bark blah blah blah anyway, so they hire a man to in the middle of the day Break into those using what I can only describe as loony tunes techniques Using the old steak over there You see the old steak over there. Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do- Is this a service that someone provides? Let me just tell you, the Paul had sort of checked out at that point in the movie. And he was just on his phone responding to emails and stuff. And that scene happened. And then Paul just wasn't watching.
Starting point is 00:38:18 And he was like, who was that? And I was watching. And I said, I don't know. Who was it? Who was it? Who was it? Who was it? The weird one. To June's point, she's right. I was confused. But this is a weird movie where nothing is happening.
Starting point is 00:38:33 But if you turn away for a second, so much goes on. And it's a weird thing. I'm like, how did so much happen? Because so much is just dropped in here. Wait, wait, why do they not want it? How did they get to this house? What's going on? Like, they want the dog out by Christmas Eve, bring it back by Christmas Eve.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Decisions are made quick. They also decide we're getting rid of the dog. And then they're like, we gotta go to grandma's. Leave the dog here, we'll go to grandma's. Then the dog is home alone, so they can have a home alone plot. But then they come home and the dogs capture the things. But when were they getting rid of the dog? Why even say you're getting rid of the dog?
Starting point is 00:39:09 None of that even seems to matter whatsoever. There are also, we haven't discussed at all, there are so many point of view shots from the dog, and also from the inside of the toilet, from inside the fridge. The toilet, the POV shots are themselves so crazy because they're all just everybody reacting just to the camera. Like touching around the camera's lens, but not quite the camera as if, like I think the dog and the humans were only worked for four hours one day. Everything else is human shot, dog shot, human shot, dog shot. They had to do something weird and to me you understand how hard it is to work with a dog
Starting point is 00:39:57 when you see what they have to do later in the movie, which is it's Christmas Eve. The family is gathered. Okay. I want to just go through this slowly. later in the movie, which is, it's Christmas Eve. The family is gathered. OK, I want to just go through this slowly. At the grandma's house, and he is reading Canine Quarterly or Canine Monthly, which he has brought from home. Right. A magazine that is established in the other house.
Starting point is 00:40:22 OK, so he's brought that home. But it's also like, when did you order it? Because it seems like the movie takes place over the course of two days. I also wanna say, and this is really weird, the magazine seems real, because the back page has an advertisement for like wall clippers.
Starting point is 00:40:39 And I was like, is it possible? This is a real magazine? What's wrong? And I had a crisis of fate. Well, I was dealing with that, but everything left my mind when I saw the TV show that the two kids were watching. Those two kids on Christmas Eve
Starting point is 00:40:57 are watching a black and white TV show called Shappy, which is like a lassy ripoff. And it just is so inculc- Chappy, which is like a lacy ripoff. And it just is so incongru- I was like, chappy. And everyone knows, like, oh, Chappy's on, like, and they're watching it. Wait, you didn't spend every Christmas Eve watching Chappy? Are you saying Chappy?
Starting point is 00:41:20 Chappy, Chappy. And not the Neil Blum camp movie, Chappy. I know. Well, that's what I thought. But no, it is a black and white dog show called Chappy? Chappy. Chappy. And not the Neil Blomkamp movie, Charlie. I know. Well, that's what I thought. But no, it is a black and white dog show called Chappy. And if I felt like they were like, we can't shoot any fucking more dogs. Like, look, can you find some black and white footage? It's got to be a free, like a royalty free public domain. It's why we refer mad at the end of the movie. What are they seeing? What Christmas Carol? Do they sing that they sing? No, nothing but the chorus.
Starting point is 00:41:47 We wish you a Merry Christmas. We wish you a Merry Christmas. And none of the rest. We wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year again. We wish you a Merry Christmas. We wish you a Merry Christmas. I was like, we- Honestly, the family singing that to the townspeople
Starting point is 00:42:04 and them singing it back and then the family singing that to the townspeople, and them singing it back, and then the family singing it back to them, truly was one of the most frightening things I've ever seen. It feels like this is terrifying to a lot. It feels like a prompt that is meant to further put you into a hypnotic state. It was psychotic. Because you have been captured by Russia.
Starting point is 00:42:24 You know what, there's so much here to unpack, but I think it's unfair that we don't click you. We can't go to the audience. Really already? Already? I mean, I have like 700,000 more notes, but absolutely we can go to the audience. I think we should go and just start. So if I were to say, you don't have to ask your question about the clapper, we know they
Starting point is 00:42:40 made clapper jokes in this movie. It's 2009 and they lead with a clapper joke. 2009. The clapper here, what I was impressed with, it was hooked up to Christmas sites. The dirtiest, most disgusting headboard. Again, it reminded me of every terrible air being ever been shot.
Starting point is 00:42:59 I'll never forget the stains on that headboard as long as I like it. They shot this in an abandoned hoarder's house. So upset. And also, after seeing the grandma's house, which looked nice, why didn't they shoot the whole movie there? Only can have one day. That's interesting.
Starting point is 00:43:19 That house that they lived in was so big. Shit hole. What was that? How about this shit hole? What was the little bridge over the moat in the front yard? So I was thinking about that. Why did this house have a moat? Show it to us too.
Starting point is 00:43:32 It's our work. Show it. Show it. It's our mission, Kaggle. Why did this house have a moat? I'll show you something that I found in the house. Can you pull up the picture of the bookcase bookcase one? So I was wondering how did this guy have this money for this house?
Starting point is 00:43:53 And I started to think about it, right? So there's a scene where the dog is looking at the owner, bookcase one. We're going to pop up the picture of bookcase one. I'm just now seeing Dean Cain and Joey Dia. So look, that's bookcase one, right? And I did a little zooming in going to bookcase two. Thoracic surgery. Why, by the way, it brings up such a good point, Paul. What is Bobo Kevin James' job? The only answer, I think, is that the sun is a thoracic surgeon.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Absolutely. Neither of those adults are thoracic surgeons. The kids at Doogie House are. I don't know. But isn't it interesting that the sun is a thoracic surgeon? But the dog doesn't have a voice. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 00:44:43 That's really interesting. Who raised your hand? I forgot we got so lost. Okay, hi. Your name and your question. Dave. I'll hold the mic. Do not be grabby Dave. I just want to talk about the my favorite character the the cat lady. Adrian so glad you brought me. Thank you. Thank you Dave. The gracious thing about the cat lady, in my opinion, is the fact that not only did she know the grandma at the very end of the movie, I think they had a little thing going. Oh, I like this.
Starting point is 00:45:14 That was a thousand percent. I'm sorry. That was a thousand percent. Do you mean the connection they made at the town's karaoke night where they duetted on Havana Nagila? What? This movie... That's not a song that's available on a karaoke.
Starting point is 00:45:34 That's not your... Come on, how many people here are... They're karaoke songs. Alright, that was usher. Now we got a hula-bula. Okay, we got Paul Nagila. Paul and I, we watched the Cat Lady monologue and we were, it was the only point in the movie. There are two points in the movie where I really, I connected. I dropped in. One was when our, one of our robbers, not Dean Kane, what's that actor's image?
Starting point is 00:46:02 Joey Diaz. Thank you. Joey Hoco. Yes. When he said, when he started talking about basement fridges and what was in the basement fridges post with kitchen fridges, I was like, that's really funny and interesting. And then the other moment was Cat Lady's monologue. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:20 And it was beautifully delivered. It was heartbreaking. It was heartbreaking. The only reason her house is in decorated is because she got too old to be able to do it. OK, but here's my question though, Jason. That was devastating. But I did question it at the same time.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Do you think she's lying? Well, while she's delivering, and again, she does it beautifully, and I loved everything about it. But while she's delivering that monologue, we can see behind her every inch of that wall is decorated. Oh, I think she means the exterior, they're saying... She didn't mean the exterior, but I just felt like she could have done it. I'll say it. Wow.
Starting point is 00:46:57 I felt like she could have done it. So your note is, A.G. and Barb, both, do the work. Honestly, I don't want you to have this experience be perceived as a Christmas Grinch, but put some lights on your outside. Put a couple things out there. Maybe sometimes it's not the actual note, but it's the note under the note.
Starting point is 00:47:15 And you know what I say? That's right. That was what it was for her. Yeah, that's a good one. Thank you, June, for bringing that up. Do better. Old lady who has been died. All right, let's get back to the audience here.
Starting point is 00:47:27 Who had their name? Who had their name? OK, you're right. What's your name and your question? Sean, who cut this place? So it seems like the option between their security is a dog or an alarm system. Either or.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Why can't they read both? Yeah, it's a great question. I mean, Paul. I'll never forget We did experience a series of brigands and we did speak to someone in law enforcement We didn't get a series of break-ins. There was a series of Car was stolen from our driveway. Well our car was stolen from our We did notice for a while inside the car That's not why
Starting point is 00:48:03 It's happened to happen that way, but that's the keys inside the car. That's not why. It just happened to happen that way, but that's why. And I think we, you're the most general way. Your car was donated from your driveway. Just because, and let- When you watched a security footage of this guy getting in our car and seeing the keys, he's like, he's like, he's like watching someone from the lotto.
Starting point is 00:48:22 I was happy for him. Just because I left the keys in the car, it not mean I was asking for it to be stolen. The guy on camera is like, wait, I mean, it is too good to be true. He, his face lit up like a Christmas tree. And I will say it was the night after we got our Christmas tree. So there was a little bit of,
Starting point is 00:48:40 there was a lot happening while I was walking inside. And yes, I left the keys in the car. Here's the thing that we were told by the police officer at that time. Don't worry about alarms. The biggest deterrent is a dog. Yeah, I think that's true. But I think for this family, they're
Starting point is 00:48:55 missing out on Sir a third option, which is drawbridge. They've got a permanent. They've got a moat already there. They've got a permanent They've got a moat already there. They've got a permanent bridge. Huge mistake. Pull it up. Put in a drawbridge. Nobody's getting in.
Starting point is 00:49:13 It worked. Unless you have a Trojan dog. Where it looks very... Trojan dog. Right? All right, your name, your question. My name is K.R. and my question is, after they adopted Zeus, how did they get his canine plaques?
Starting point is 00:49:29 Good question. I mean, all of it, how do they know his name is Zeus? Does Zeus have his own stuff with him wherever he goes? This makes no sense. Does Zeus isn't, I am up in the balcony. Oh, God be careful. Once again, with our balcony monsters, give it up for the balcony! And I will ask this. I said...
Starting point is 00:50:00 Chicago, balcony, lolless. I said to the audience top of the show. I said, is anyone here in costume? Okay, I'm going to you first. I reward costume. Chicago balcony monster is AKA the untouchables. You're in costume. You are. Okay, I love it. What is this costume? I'm one of the rovers as their utility plumber outfits Great work Fantastic amazing Okay, what's your name Sierra Sierra and what is your question? So I wanted to look up to see because the music was so so home-alone, asked me who the composer is,
Starting point is 00:50:47 and that led me down to a rabbit hole. On Wikipedia, the music composer, Andres Bolton, has like a mixed filmography of being with dog Christmas movies and serial killer murder movies. Then I decided who else is there. So the director, Michael Fyfer, I think, has a bunch of serial killer movies, like Edgene, the BTK killer, the Boston Strangler.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Wow. And more dog Christmas movies mixed in. So basically he summers with a Christmas and he winters with a serial killer. It continues. This cinematographer also has the set up of a mix of dog Christmas movies and murder, serial killer movies, and also early in his career porn films.
Starting point is 00:51:43 Which is kind of a mix of both, really. It's a classic one for me, one for them scenario. And then both of them for me. Yeah. And then them on me and me on them. They apparently did a bunch of the same movies together. But the overall question that I have is, because of their
Starting point is 00:52:05 filmography is doing the Christmas dog movies as a way of trying to have like a enlightened like a relief from all the dark tension that they have at this serious movies. Or is it just another way of them to stall time and get a paycheck until they go back to their real passion of murders. Wow, this is a great question. Great, great, great, great. Sierra, I mean, it seems like these guys, they probably, it's probably a group of folks who all work together and they just plug now in either dog Christmas movies or murder movies.
Starting point is 00:52:45 But I do believe that if you work this circuit, like this lifetime hallmark channel circuit, it's like, we got to do one holiday and one killer. And it's like, we will cover it. We will get you basically just described the lifetime network. Right? You and I, you and I were watching, I think it was killer week. We were on tour. We were watching it.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Every night we came home and would watch two back-to-back serial killer movies. It was like the homecoming killer. Then it was like my principal killed the homecoming queen. And then afterwards it was like my best friend was the killer homecoming queen. It was like they all were tied loosely, but it was like, yeah, they have so many of them. Oh, there's that, that is an industry that is almost bottomless. And when I, there was a period during the pandemic, where I was recording two
Starting point is 00:53:38 Magnum PIs and one Colombo a day, that's right, on my DVR. Good old T-Vo. It's cool, I'm 50. First of all, I just want to give a shout out to T-Vo's, the original DVR. The best. It though is important to put some respect on their name. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:00 I had a T-Vo that I sent away so they could put an extra hard drive in it. I did the same thing. I did the same thing. It was the best. I will tell you Paul, I remember when Paul and I first started dating, I remember your apartment in New York going there and seeing that you had Tivo and being like, wow. Ah! Ah! Wow. All right.
Starting point is 00:54:26 Oh. I could have every episode of Buffy that I wanted at a moment's notice. I mean, what a luxury. What a luxury to be like, you know, I've got 20 gigs of Preston's third-est movies on here. OK.
Starting point is 00:54:44 I am admiring this gentleman's small notebook. It's a very tiny notebook. Oh my gosh, it's so small. Tiny notebook with a lot of notes. Tiny notebook. Tiny notebook. Tiny notebook. All right, so I'm predicting this to be good,
Starting point is 00:55:00 but I don't want to put pressure on you. Your name and your question. My name is Jamie. My question is, when we finally learn why the dog can't bark, it's told in a flashback. And then the evil cat lady responds to that flashback. So my question is, can the cat lady understand the dog? Yes, they are having a conversation that is, that presumes she knows what the dog is saying. I wrote that down to Jamie, I fully agree with you.
Starting point is 00:55:32 And it is shocking that someone that far back in the balcony had a cogent thought. So I really want to give it up for Jamie. Everyone around him is passed out. You know what, I can't beat that. I feel like we're just going downhill from here. All right, obviously, people out there have questions. They have feelings.
Starting point is 00:55:58 But you know what, some people out there think this movie might be their favorite Christmas film. And we're going to hear it from them right now because now it's time for second opinions. I'm Casey. This Christmas I give it five stars X cop dogs save the day cuz crime doesn't pay Cheers when Zeus barked out his fears. I give you my second opinion Whoa great job. What a way to start so a little anticlimactic with the second opinions, because there are only 360 total reviews. But 75% are five-star. Now before I even read these, I will let you know, there are multiple films in this franchise.
Starting point is 00:57:10 Five, five films, the dog who saved, and we're going to talk about that in a second. But some of these reference to those. In 2019 wrote this, my daughter, three, was obsessed with the dog that saved Halloween. We watched that nightmare of a movie hundreds of times. Well, I mean, it is Halloween, so spooky, kind of a nightmare. So you can imagine her excitement and my horror When she discovered that there were multiple movies including this little gem bad acting bad plot
Starting point is 00:57:56 bad everything Dot dot dot and your kids will absolutely love it the title a new definition of hate Dot, dot, dot, and your kids will absolutely love it. The title, a new definition of hate. The rating, five stars. The rating, five stars. The rating, five stars. Amazon customer in 2013 writes this, title the review, love dogs. Cute to watch, but not into the talking animals.
Starting point is 00:58:38 Five stars. Wow. Now, when we are at the bottom of the barrel of five star reviews, we go to one star reviews. These are first opinions. People who share the same opinion as some of us, Clifford Dawson writes, Wait, no, is this Clifford the big red dog? Because that is a dumb Dawson. He was considered for the role and was passed on.
Starting point is 00:59:07 Now, this one, the reason I read this is because I don't think you'll know where it's going. The title is, this may be the worst Christmas movie ever. He wrote this the year after it came out in 2010. Writing, terrible, acting, even worse, production values, cheap and cheesy, animal voiceovers, sub-ideotic. This is what I get for letting the wife pick the film for the night. But she didn't even like it. The only question I had after the pain was over, aside from wanting the 90 minutes back was, how did such a dead head family afford that house? The father didn't act like he could possibly do anything that would put him in that income bracket.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Perhaps he earned it the old fashioned way. He inherited it. Yet another argument for a family planning. One star. Holy shit! Holy shit! That's... I mean, I agree with that review. Shockingly?
Starting point is 01:00:48 Wow. Oh, boy. So we can just imagine just being fucking absolutely livid and jealous at the family in this movie that you get on. And it's also like, yeah, it's a lot of house, but every square foot is a shit hole. Yeah. Ha, ha, ha. I mean, police host at HGTV House Show.
Starting point is 01:01:18 Police, the shit hole. Police, it's a... Oh my God. Oh my God. Are you watching it's a shit hole with June Day and Rayfield? I love that show. I love at the beginning of every episode where she walks through and tells everybody what a shit hole they live in. And then at the end, it's so sweet I cry every time because it's not a shit hole anymore.
Starting point is 01:01:43 I'm gonna just... The gate at the front, that gate? Defense, the gate, the moat, the bridge. Every element of the house. So genuinely felt like it had been dropped from another plant. I'm remember when they're driving in the car, I'm sorry, remember when they're driving in the car and the'm sorry. Remember when they're driving in the car
Starting point is 01:02:06 and the stone-cold genius, Mindy Sterling, who we've mentioned before, groundlings, incredible comedian, she's singing, she's annoying everybody in the car, and they're driving full speed, and the sun tries to throw himself from the car. And I have to say, that part of the movie is... I do remember that part of the movie.
Starting point is 01:02:26 I do remember that part. That's how I felt watching the whole movie. We keep on talking throughout the movie when they keep on referencing the grandma on how she has stale pretzels and like flat soda. We get to our house and I'm like, she seems like she's fun. Oh.
Starting point is 01:02:41 She's cool as hell. She's the only person in this movie I believe, fucks. I also believe they don't get her because they're not cool. I know, I'm like, this lady is awesome. Her and Adrian Barbot are the most interesting characters in this movie. And I wish the family and the dog had all died in a carbon monoxide leak. And by the way, just, you know, I know we're wrapping things up. I know you got your phone. But I just want to say one more thing. How do you say one more thing? Because the decision
Starting point is 01:03:18 on Christmas Eve, they have, they establish that grandma's house is ours. Away, ours, not one hour, and probably not two, but probably two and a half to three hours away. And they decided on Christmas Eve to go back and get Zeus. And from what I, before they found out that, like, their house had been robbed, it seemed like they were going to draw, they had already driven there, that's three hours. They were gonna drive back, that's minus three hours.
Starting point is 01:03:48 And then they were gonna drive back to grandma's house to just be with the dog. Yes. That's nine hours of driving. And honestly, nobody likes the dog that much. And no one likes the grandma even more. And they get there, absolutely, you can found it. You get there. Zeus has captured the criminals
Starting point is 01:04:07 and the police try and recruit Zeus. Because the Zeus has done a better job than that town's police department. And that was another moment where Paul and I were watching together. Sometimes we rely on each other to keep track of the plot. And I had zoned out for a second. I was just looking out the window or something. And I said, wait, wait, wait, what just happened?
Starting point is 01:04:32 And Paul said, the police are trying to adopt Zeus. The police are trying to adopt Zeus. And I was like, oh, okay. Of course. The police are trying to adopt Zeus. I'm not just like, oh, okay. Of course, but it wouldn't have been so much better if the police were like Zeus? Right. Because he's a famous K-9 dog. But not in that.
Starting point is 01:04:56 But they were like Zeus, oh my God, where have you been? And then they reveal this backstory that they didn't know. But yet they all know the backstory because the man who used to be a dog is now the owner of the town. Do you even believe that in this town, whatever town these people are in, that there is the need? Okay, here's what it is. Here's what it is, and this is unexamined fully. Do dogs go undercover?
Starting point is 01:05:21 I know police officers do, but are dogs? Parts of dogs have some kind of identity. Sometimes you'll see a dog with a baseball cap on, like, cop. I see a dog with his head out of a crowned vick. I'm like, cop. All right, let me drop some stuff on you. Stuff, not knowledge. Stuff. All right, let me drop some stuff on you.
Starting point is 01:05:47 Stuff, not knowledge. Some stuff. Stuff. This movie premiered on ABC Family on November 29th, 2009, during their countdown to 25 days of Christmas programming block. It was ranked as the number one cable program in its time slot. And the number one cable film in the winter of 2009 with four million viewers.
Starting point is 01:06:21 It was the cable's number one program during its period of eight to 10 p.m. with 4 million viewers. It ranked number one in scripted telecasts on cable during that Sunday. It became the season's number one cable film and had a 4-inch... What are you saying? It had a 14% increase in viewers from the same time slot in the previous year. Okay, so I can't imagine that that is real. That's a four million viewers for context. Like every episode of Madman got like 1.2 million viewers. Every episode of 30 Rock got
Starting point is 01:07:00 like sub one million viewers. You're saying this had four million views. The dog who saved Christmas won several... What? ...goollies? ...goollies. Goollies. Goollies. You like you log, you lies. From...
Starting point is 01:07:20 A loggy? From the Entertainment Weekly's website, the categories it won included MVP, most valuable pooch, and best use of Dean Kane. You know what I don't disagree with that one actually. Is that a category every year? In the year we were. In the year we were. In the year we were. In the year every year? In the year we were. In the year we were, Joe. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:07:47 That's just a Dean Kane. It also was given. What are you talking about? Absolutely. Okay, hang on a second. If we, for real talk, if we had Dean Kane on the podcast, would we be eligible for a Uly? If we televised the show. Wely if we televised the show?
Starting point is 01:08:06 We'd have to televised the show? Because it's almost worth it. I would love it if we were, if we want a uly, I would retire. And don't nominate us for a uly just to get me to retire. I want to now open you up to one more thing, five sequels. Let me tell you what it is. So this was the first. First, the dog, yeah, who saved Christmas? Sequel, the dog who saved Christmas vacation, aired a year later, then another sequel, the dog who saved Halloween, September 2011. Third sequel, the dog who saved Halloween, September 2011.
Starting point is 01:08:46 Third sequel, the dog who saved the holidays, 2012. Wait a minute. A fourth sequel, the dog who saved Easter. Fifth sequel, the dog who saved Summer, 2015. Summer? Yes. Now, I'm going to drop this knowledge on you. Oh, God. Gary Valentine was in everyone except for Easter.
Starting point is 01:09:16 Wait, who is Gary Valentine? Kevin James' brother. Kevin James' brother. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know. I was like, who's that? Dean's name. I would't know. I was like, well, who's that? Dean, please. I would believe that if that was his,
Starting point is 01:09:28 maybe Zeus's name is Gary Valentine. If I'm thinking about it, the dog is probably the most consistent performer. I would love it if the dog's name was Gary Valentine. Gary Valentine on set, Gary Valentine. There are only... Okay, I'm trying to figure out how to present this to you. One character, or I should say three characters that are in all the sequels.
Starting point is 01:09:56 Do we get the guess? Yes, sure. Zeus. Yes, but with a caveat. It's not always the same dog. No. Oh. Mario Lopez provides his voice for the first three films, drops out for two, then comes back for the final two. Oh, wow. He's the fin diesel of this franchise. Where he's like, I'm too good for this.
Starting point is 01:10:21 Wait a minute, it's a hit. I'm bad, baby. But it's always Zeus, no matter the whole. Joey Lawrence replaces him in Halloween and holidays. What? That is the third and fourth film, and then he comes back for Easter and Summer. Wow. Belinda Bannister. Oh, okay, well, you guess, you guess. Belinda. Who isn't all the moon? I guess Paul is Belinda Bannister. Oh, okay, well, you guess, you guess. Who is in all the movies? He's in all the movies. I guess Paul is Belinda banister. Yes. Something tells me it might be Belinda
Starting point is 01:10:57 banister. Paul, that's my answer. Okay, you would be correct. But here's the other ones that are in all the movies. Dean Kane. By the way, thank God. Joey Coco Diaz and Mindy Sterling. They're in all. Gary Valentine is not in all. Dean Kane, Joey Coco Diaz, Mindy Sterling, and Alisa Donovan, who plays Blinda Bannister, is in all the films.
Starting point is 01:11:27 Now, the kids change, like Griswolds. I can see that. Can I just show one more moment here? Scene 7, please. This is the most disturbing image I saw in the film. Alinda always said to brush after every mail. All right, yes, he's brushing. Got it. That.
Starting point is 01:11:45 This is the light. What happened when Santa Claus cast Santa. Dog and Santa. Dog is in the sauna. He put himself in the sauna. Did he turn the sauna on? He must have. Conesus drink for my well.
Starting point is 01:12:00 Oh, did I just say? OK, actually, I'm so glad we're showing this. Yes, he stopped. Because I understood, I guess, that? Okay, actually, I'm so glad we're showing this. Yes, because I understood, I guess, that the mice could talk, that the, everything, all the other animals had a voice. But why did the toilet talk? That really turned in, that really fucked with me. Because I don't raise your hand like you know,
Starting point is 01:12:22 you know why the toilet talked. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. What's the way she sings? And by the way, the way she sings, I know, is she? I know. But it's also, there's a level of confidence
Starting point is 01:12:35 that is unnerving. Go ahead, go ahead. Hi. What's your name? Rachel. And why does the toilet talk? OK, you're going to be embarrassed when you didn't think of this yourself.
Starting point is 01:12:44 It's the dog voicing what he thinks the toilet is saying to him. Okay. But it's the dog guessing what the mice are saying to him? No, they're actual animals so they can talk. Right, it's like, Rachel, we would talk to ourself. Rachel? Absolutely not.
Starting point is 01:13:02 What? I love that, Rachel. You think that's the job for you to say? I believe Rachel. This guy is saying, right here. What are you saying? Wait. Yes.
Starting point is 01:13:12 Wait, the toilet is sentient because the toilet is a POV shot. Now, you, yes. And you, wait, you say it's a bidet. She says not a toilet. What? She's saying this woman is saying, the toilet's a bidet. The toilet's a bidet. She says not a bidet. What? She's saying this woman is saying, the toilet's a bidet. The toilet's a bidet. Okay, and this one is saying,
Starting point is 01:13:31 it's the furnace joke from home alone. Oh, okay, that makes sense. Well, there we go. I love that at the end of the show, everybody's coming undone. Trying to figure out why the fucking toilet talks in this absolute dog shit movie. We have suffered through this, I'd love to make sense of the talking toilet. When in reality this fever dream broke us all. And you're all
Starting point is 01:13:57 going home to your kids, sending the sitter home, and they're like, what the fuck just happened to us? Well, people, we did it. We did this show. Thank you, Chicago! We will be back, give it up for Jason Manzucas, give it up for June Day and Rayfield. I am Paul Shear. Thank you, thank you so much. Thank you. We love being here. We hated this movie. Good night everybody. Each shit Chicago!
Starting point is 01:14:25 Yes, the holiday season is here. As a matter of fact, I'm in a holiday movie right now. That's right. You can check me out in Family Switch on Netflix. It's a Jen Garner movie with Ed Helms. I'm in it. I play a dick. and you know what? It is really fun. Thank you to everyone in Chicago who made this such a great show. I mean, truly, we love doing shows in Chicago. Unfortunately, you'll never be able to hear one of the shows that we did in Chicago because the person who was tasked with recording it really messed up. And here's the thing. Everyone makes mistakes mistakes but that person was a real dick about it so review our theater a plus that dude all right uh... well
Starting point is 01:15:13 look i know that you don't want to hear me complain about the guy who forgot to hit record on our first show in jacago uh... be probably like paul can i get a shirt that kind of in bodies everything uh... that we just talked about yet again we have an amazing shirt ago. But you probably like, Paul, can I get a shirt that kind of embodies everything that we just talked about? Yeah, you can. We have an amazing shirt. It's, it's basically the lead actor of this movie in a bathtub with a dog who's looking down at his dick. And there's nothing on it. No quote, no, anything. It just says Chicago. How did this get made? Because I couldn't put dog perv it on a shirt.
Starting point is 01:15:45 I just couldn't, I felt like no one would buy it. Anyway, tipubbuck.com slash stores, slash HDTGM. You get that sticker and a laptop case, a mug, whatever you want. It's a great look image. It's more questions than answers. You've already probably heard me plug or how did this get made ugly,
Starting point is 01:16:02 holiday sweater collection. There's still time to order one before the holidays. If you get your order in before December 10th, you will get your delivery before Christmas. These are great. We gave them out at these shows and people went bonkers from the geostorm one is ases. All designs are available at podswag.com slash bonkers. And you can also get some how to get made wrapping paper. That's right.
Starting point is 01:16:23 All right. People get ready. Because next week is a special supersized last look. That's right. We're going to be going over corrections and omissions from both munchies and the dog who saved Christmas. So if you have anything you want us to know about, either we'll be, leave us a voice mail at 619.
Starting point is 01:16:38 P-A-U-L-A-S-K or write a comment on our discord at discord.gg, slash httgm. And of course, as always, Jason will stop by last looks for chat and we will announce our next movie. Remember, you can find us everywhere online. If you love the show, tell your friends. It really does help. I mean, that really is the best way to promote the podcast word of mouth.
Starting point is 01:17:02 Plus, it's more fun when you can watch these movies with people, you know. And last but not least, I gotta say thank you to all the listeners who support this show every week and our entire behind the scenes team who keep this show running. I'm talking about our producers, Scott Sonny, Molly Reynolds, Airel Halley, our engineers, Casey Hulford and Rich Garcia, and our associate producer, Justice Narris, who makes those amazing social media videos. That's all I got people. Bye for now.

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