How Did This Get Made? - The King's Daughter LIVE!

Episode Date: January 12, 2024

Paul, Jason, and June break down the mermaid fantasy film The King's Daughter, a movie shot in 2014 that was shelved until 2022. LIVE from the State Theatre in Portland, Maine, the HDTGM crew discuss ...Pierce Brosnan's Fabio wig, the creepy father/daughter relationship, Captain Jack Boring, and how Chinese movie star Fan Bingbing is the key to answering the question, "How did this get made?" Plus, multiple audience members serenade us with a supercut of Little Mermaid second opinion songs. Renys! Renys! Renys! UPCOMING TOUR DATES IN: San Francisco, San Diego, the UK, & Ireland! Go to hdtgm.com for tix and info.Pre-Order Paul’s book about his childhood, Joyful Recollections of Trauma, wherever books are soldFor extra Matinee Monday content, visit Paul's YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheerHDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheerFollow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer/Check out Paul and Rob Huebel live on Twitch (www.twitch.tv/friendzone) every Thursday 8-10pm ESTSubscribe to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson here: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael here: www.thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcastCheck out The Jane Club over at www.janeclub.comCheck out new HDTGM merch over at https://www.teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmWhere to find Jason, June & Paul:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on Twitter

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello people of Earth, it's me, Paul Sheer with a very special announcement for years. You've been asking me, Paul, when are we going to get more childhood stories? You should write them down. And you know what, I did. I wrote down my stories and I have a damn book. It is called Joyful Recollections of Trauma. It is coming out in May, but it is available for pre-order right now. And actually, that's more important.
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Starting point is 00:02:25 We saw the King's daughter so you know what that means I got my pants, no vest, walk with me, just in the alley I may see a hard-ass show with it all And take a look with me to hit the hoops, control Take that big wall and the move to June When I take you from the pool, walk away with the road Bring me down the street, fight it, hope to blow off steam Just a sucker, punch the odd life, attempt to reach out to the beach The front, that we can't be staying alive They call me when the bad ass and he's on the line Breaking a statement is cause they cool his eyes Cause're bad ass and he's on the line Breaking a name, saying,
Starting point is 00:02:45 Linus, cuz they cool in the sights Cuz I'm bad, Jim, Bonnie, looking kind of night All the shit, Get in line, We'll chase him, We'll get in line Don't let's make the shower,
Starting point is 00:02:53 We'll run the market shots, We'll be playing They're just a bunch of movies Why they making the great Is a real question for the out of this kid, hey Hello, people of Earth, and hello, people of Portland! We are here today to talk about the 2022 film, The King's Daughter. Forgive me, Father, for I have sinned. And I told too many people to watch this movie.
Starting point is 00:03:38 But you don't have to watch this movie. If you want to know the plot, well, I'll say the King's daughter is a deceptive title. It should be called the King who wants to filet a mermaid. Because that's the premise. A King wants to kill a mermaid. Mermaid killer would have been a better title, I think. Yes, he does have a daughter. We'll get into it all tonight here on the show. But before I can break it down anymore for you. Let me introduce my co-host. Please welcome to the stage, Mr. Jason Mansoukas.
Starting point is 00:04:16 What the? What the? Jokes. What's up, jerks? How are we doing Portland, Maine? That's right. We're getting a late start because we were at Rennie's buying car heart shit. That's right. Ready, ready, ready, ready, ready, ready, ready, ready.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Let's go to ready. I will tell you. We have expired chocolate to buy. And socks. Jason Paul, the King's daughter. Is it? I took so many notes. The most notes I've ever taken. And was looking at them just prior and was like,
Starting point is 00:05:12 I don't know what any of this means. I don't know if these are notes from the movie. This movie, this, I mean, just, I mean, over and over in my notes, I did write, remember, these people are French. Oh, that goes really good. Really good. Of Americans, Brits, and Australians.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Fuck this movie. I wanted to ask you about that, but I'll save my big question, which was, isn't Pierce Brosnan supposed to be French? So much so that I actor or his character. This character King Louis the Fourteen. I know but I look but he didn't with such no this was a boat. I thought he can maybe I miss the friend I know but I thought wait wait wait wait wait I can't wait any longer. I can't wait any longer.
Starting point is 00:06:12 I can't wait any longer. I can't stand back there and hear you talk about the accents and not get out here on stage with my friends. Well first of all, let me say How are you June? I'm okay I'm glad to hear it and that yes, so this movie Messed me up so much That I literally googled Louis the 14th I was like maybe I Can see like maybe I well, I know it's first side. I know he's the king of France,
Starting point is 00:06:48 but I thought maybe something happened in French history for a little bit. With the Mermaids? Wow! You were like, oh, wait, so you went to the history text to be like, when did the king of France get a mermaid? When did the king of France get a mermaid? When did the king of France hire a guy from not Lord of the Rings to go and get a mermaid? I've got to
Starting point is 00:07:13 tell you there was a point where I was there a mirror. There was a moment where I did almost Google. King Louis the 14th mids, just to see what would come up. But my Google search, I know I'm on many lists, many watch lists, because of what I googling, because of this podcast, but I did at one point think, is there any historical context to this to this motion picture? I think they're here. I do think that was he fascinated by that? Was there an obsession with it? And I think they're here to see. I do think that was he fascinated by that? Was there an obsession with it? I think the only thing that you really understand to be absolute truth is at the end when they discover Atlantis. That we know it's true.
Starting point is 00:07:56 I have to tell you when they tell you something. It's not something that's going to be Atlantis. It is, obviously it's the best ending for a movie I've ever seen better than Aquaman When I tell you Jason and Paul that for I want to say Because because the vast majority of the movie I thought well, that's the doctor right? Yes, yes, yes, you think I was right I thought they were the I thought they were the same person. Oh, I Was always the same person. I! I was the same person. I was confused that the love interest or the evil love interest and the doctor were the same person.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Exactly. Our guilty should have been the same person. The movie would have been cleaner. The movie is cluttered with people. As if to say we are able to shoot at Versailles. Yes. So we got to fill this. Yes. Clothered with white people, one black person.
Starting point is 00:08:48 They, and I want to see her story because wow. They clutter this. That's the more interesting movie, Shri Paul. There's so many things to get into. Let me just go back and say, yes, the movie ends in Atlantis. Digest that. Now, what I forgot when the movie ended in Atlantis was the first image on the screen in the beginning of the movie was-
Starting point is 00:09:16 The words? The words was Louis XIV is obsessed with finding Atlantis. That was never said by a character. That was never alluded to. That was never in the movie. The movie is bookended by Atlantis. And that's it. And not only that, I feel like there are so many breadcrumbs,
Starting point is 00:09:42 or not even breadcrumbs. There are so many ways to figure out that this movie was, you said, as you said, Paul, came out in 2022, shot in the year of our Lord, 2014. Eight years on the shelf. So there's so many things that tell you that this is a trouble to production or a troubled film? One of which is there is both words at the beginning, like a crawl at the beginning that
Starting point is 00:10:10 gives you an exposition dump, then at the beginning and end our needless voiceover. Like also, actually, and there's don't forget there's a book where pictures turn into real life actions. Yes. Don't forget there's a book where pictures turn into real life actions. Sometimes I thought that book was passing too many pages and like, so down, we're missing plot. Well, that's the other thing that's a problem. This is like the scene. It's like 30 seconds long.
Starting point is 00:10:36 This is like a bedtime story told to you by a drunk relative. Okay. It's like, the mermaid. The way that I forgot it, I forgot the land. Is this a story that you're gonna go out to tell? That would be too normal for my family life. When I tell you, I thought, okay, we're watching a movie. When I sat down on the airplane this morning from Los Angeles, I thought,
Starting point is 00:10:56 okay, we're watching a movie called The King's Daughter. I was ready for some palace romance. I was ready for comedy of manners. I was ready for something princess diaries. Yes! What I was not ready for was a tale about mermaids. A tale about killing mermaids. And looking at so many like medical drawings of the intestines of a mermaid, like that I couldn't have imagined when I saw this, I love this film. The drawing that is the doctor with the scalpel? Who's drawing a picture of the doctor?
Starting point is 00:11:37 If you draw something, it is the anatomy of the thing, but the mermaid is just, you're seeing it from the side, and it's like, guess who's the most important? That is the oddest drawing in the movie because it's a giant piece of rolled up parchment that she finds placed on the floor. It's like, when would you ever take that out to show anyone? Like, and this is what I'm going to do. Knife, belly. Like, it was not, and this is what I'm going to do. Knife, belly. Like, it was not, you would end over.
Starting point is 00:12:08 I had so many questions about the doctor who's also the rich merchant. I was like, well, no, this doctor has the mermaid in that little area, that little... The grotto. The grotto. Which I think is where they get their drinking water. This movie is drinking mermaid shit. The grotto. The grotto. Which I think is where they get their drinking water.
Starting point is 00:12:25 This movie is drinking mermaid shit. It seems to report that everything is looking great. All the organs are looking great. Eternal, you know, her eternal heartbeat or whatever that is. All everything is sort of checking out. And I'm like, how do you know this? Yeah. What are the procedures? What are the protocols?
Starting point is 00:12:47 What? The checklists are you going through. He's talking about books. Look at this. This is the scene 3 here, a Beth scene 3. Listen to the assured nature in which he presents nonsense. Oh wait a minute. It's based on a book. Pause it, Beth. Not only is it based on a book, this book won the Nebula Award, which kicked Game of Thrones out of, it's like, when Game of Thrones came out, this book won the award of the best sci-fi book. So there you go. Wait, I'll, Okay, out of curiosity, do it, is it possible? And I hesitate to do this.
Starting point is 00:13:29 Did anybody here read the book? Is there a book fan here? I can speak for the book. Oh, there's one right there. Only one. Two. Two. In the book, they eat the mermaid.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Hold on, I need to get out there. Yeah, ask her. Paul, ask her if he. Be so careful, Paul. Yeah, ask her... Paul. Ask her if... Be so careful, Paul. Ask her if he gets a turtle leg. Where are you? Where are you? Okay, you read the book. I didn't read the book.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Walk away. Are you read the summary of the book? Did you read the book back there? I want to go to the read the book, person. I mean, we can't be given out special awards for Wikipedia and truthiers. Stover rosters. All right, you read the book.
Starting point is 00:14:14 OK. Tell us a little bit about the book. It was a lot. Is this a faithful adaptation? No. No. Do they, in fact, eat the mermaid? They try to. That's the point.
Starting point is 00:14:28 That happens. They escape, but... Oh, God, it's been a while. All right, I'm going to go back to the summary. Yeah, go back to the summary person, ma'am. Go back to summary. Great job. Great job.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Summary might be... No, a little bit better. Okay. I feel like them eating the mermaid would have made this movie so much better. If when they come back to publish, again, Lee Eves brother, if instead he was making like an olive oil lemon, capers, If he was just gonna cook her up. All right, so what do you remember from the summary? Well, I read it today at work. They came, tried to eat the mermaid for eternal life,
Starting point is 00:15:14 because in the book, if they wanted to cut the heart out and that eclipse and everything that didn't happen, it didn't happen. But the one thing I noticed about the movie, and I want to say this to June, because we're at the same age, are the dresses for Macy's at that time. Well she she kind of snuck in like I know something to sneak in like a question for. Well we are not asking questions yet. Yeah there were a couple of like listen when, when I was growing up, I grew up in the time I guess as did you of like Jessica McClintock prom dresses, which to me I was like there's
Starting point is 00:15:55 nothing finer, there's nothing more beautiful, there's no fashion except for Jessica McClintock dresses and that's what what they reminded me of. They're very off the rack in this movie. And you can't, you certainly can tell, but I like their wedding dress. I would say that historians might say to you that they are so historically inaccurate. And one of the ways you can find out that is that
Starting point is 00:16:20 there's a lot of zippers, you know. Not too many zippers at the time of... The other thing that... The Louis XIV. That bumps a little bit is, once again, none of these people are French. And they are aggressively not French. Because they're not French, but I will say
Starting point is 00:16:39 they all, everybody in the movie, does adapt and adopt some sort of an accent. Some sort of an accent, but not a French accent. I don't. I thought that William Hurt was trying something. And I know it also as somebody who acts when you're not fully confident, I'm gonna just, if I try it subtly,
Starting point is 00:17:03 maybe you can't tell or maybe it's perfect. And I feel try it subtly. Maybe you can't tell, or maybe it's perfect. And I feel like it was underneath. I was like, I'm talking a little French. But not going to push it. Like it was just very... Yes, it exploded all down a little bit. So you couldn't quite tell. Yes, I love From Paris
Starting point is 00:17:25 That's also by the way Pierce Bros. 2 like they're all doing I gotta say the Pierce Bros. is performance He's free he's free on this Look at him he he struts like Mick Jagger He needs that Fabio wig in every performance Look at him. I'm scream. He, he struts like Mick Jagger. He needs that Fabio wig in every performance. I would have, I want James Bond in that Fabio wig. I loved it. I'm all about a movie about like a carousing king of France play by Pierce Brothers.
Starting point is 00:17:58 This isn't that movie. This movie is weirdly also the shape of water, but it is also one of my favorite movies. Also Princess Diaries. I told you that. That was one of my favorite movie. One of my favorite movie, Sally Hockens, her performance, everything about that, that's one of my favorite movies.
Starting point is 00:18:16 I think that's not a purge film. I never talk about that movie. I love that movie, it's who I am, is that movie. So if you don't know that about me, you know nothing. Let's just hear the exposition from this scene. Here we go. Fantastic news, you majesty. De La Quaship, sales for home. In possession of the miraculous cargo. The coming eclipse is perfect timing.
Starting point is 00:18:50 The books are clear about these matters, and specify that the creature must be sacrificed right as the moon passes in front of the sun, in order to transfer its gift of eternal life. Perhaps we should withhold our glee, Doctor Lebar, until we have proof that your books are should withhold our glee, Dr. LeBath, until we have proofed your books, or not just fiction.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Relax, Father. Surely the doctor wouldn't be risking his reputation on this Irish claim, unless he was feeling very confident. So that is the premise, the mermaid must be killed during an eclipse, so we can have eternal life. But that's fine. That's just fine by me. Where I get lost is that, concurrently, the other story that seems pretty much happens to us, is that William Hurd has decided to bring his long-lost daughter into the palace. Just to sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss He wants the best composer. No idea. We never hear her make music in that combat. We heard that because she went into the unholy sea,
Starting point is 00:20:11 which seemed to be a little addendum to religion that I was not aware of. Like, don't go swimming. The devil lives in the water. OK, sure. But that was odd to go. It was. And we broke your cello. Can I ask you a question, though?
Starting point is 00:20:28 Do you think that they were telling her, don't go into the sea because she's part mermaid? Is she? I think the movie, the movie is trying to tell us, she is part mermaid because she can hear the song, she knows it's a song, everybody else just. So then Pierce Brosnan fucked a mermaid at some point. part mermaid because she can hear the song, she knows it's a song, everybody else just hears. So then Pierce Brosnan fucked a mermaid at some point.
Starting point is 00:20:47 So she's half the mermaid. So she's half the mermaid. So she's half the mermaid. So she's half the mermaid. Pierce Brosnan is out there fucking whatever comes along. We do have people around her. We do have people around her. We do have people around her.
Starting point is 00:20:56 We do have people around her. We do have people around her. Including mermaids, whatever. Oh, why is my bed so wet? Forgive me, father, for icing. Forgive me, father, for icing. Forgive me, father, for icing. Forgive me, father, for icing.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Forgive me, father, for icing. My fuck the salmon last night. Forgive me, Father, for I sinned. I fucked a salmon last night. No, no, no said, like every woman in the court is his daughter. Like every single woman there. My favorite thing, you said that, you know, they shot in Versailles. They shot this movie in Versailles for three months. That's crazy. Three months.
Starting point is 00:21:37 It seems like while Versailles is this amazing location, they could only afford about six extras and they only put them as couples and the same couples are like, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, like they're always, these are the most judgmental people I've ever met and they're always the same three couples. She is, apparently we've only seen her ride horses and swimming the ocean but is so competent a musical performer and composer that she is hired to be the King's composer even though she is his daughter she does not know he does but the
Starting point is 00:22:17 King's composer's main job appears to be playing music for him outside his window in the morning like a human alarm clock human alarm clock I honestly was like wow that would be great. I just didn't understand these two different storylines that were had nothing to do Three because it's the the king needs a composer the king needs a daughter to marry the rich guy so they get more money in the treasury and the king needs to kill a mermaid. Those are the three concurrent plots, but then the movie does a weird thing, which is like, we know she's the daughter, he knows she's the daughter, and then they reveal it, but
Starting point is 00:23:03 she doesn't know, but the father knows. Then they reveal it, and it's like, well, that's not really a twist for anybody. We all are in on it. Like we're all here. The movie is called The King's Daughter. Yeah, we are aware. So that's, I spent the first half of the movie
Starting point is 00:23:18 because they weren't acting like father and daughter. They were acting like they were an effect. They were acting as if they were love interests. So I did not like that and daughter. They were acting like they were in fact. They were acting as if they were love interests. So I did not like that walled scene. So I was in 16. I was like this is too charged. And I felt like by the way, better chemistry than any other couple in the whole movie.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Except for her in the mermaid. Because at one point I was like, oh she's a lesbian. This is sapphic. She's ending up with this mermaid, and I'm here for it. Now, can I just, can I say something that you may already know, so forgive me, but may blow your mind otherwise?
Starting point is 00:23:54 She, after making this movie, marries not Lord of the Rings, the sailor. They are falling in love during this movie. Their first kiss. Now, now you call them Not Lord of the Rings. I call them Captain Jack Boring. Yeah, that's... Captain Jack Boring's better than not Lord of the Rings.
Starting point is 00:24:12 It's shocked. Because that scene, my favorite part of the movie, was a scene where the mermaid, where she's on the back of the mermaid and they're swimming around. I thought, this is so beautiful. See, two women in this love scene together, playedfully running around in the water. I've never seen anything like this. I loved it. And then we have to watch her and Captain Jack, what'd you call?
Starting point is 00:24:32 Boring. I could have believed they dressed him exactly like Johnny Depp. It was really shocking to me. All the, all the costume none of the charm. I know. I'm like, you I know, but this movie's telling me that they have more chemistry than her and the mermaid. That's absurd. I also, and I'm wondering if you ever thought this, I also for a period was like, is the mermaid her mother?
Starting point is 00:24:57 Like, is it possible that her mermaid mother went back to the ocean and has now come back and is reclaiming her? Also, wasn't it weird that nobody, not Captain Jack Boring, not the any of the court, not the King's daughter, nobody is at all phased by the arrival and existence of mermaids. And not only that, here's the thing, it's whatever, 14, whatever in this movie, right? Fucking mermaid and a solar eclipse. Everybody in this movie would be like,
Starting point is 00:25:33 game over, the world is done. No, it's Versailles, they're doing fun-sci-baby. It's Versailles. Versailles. Versailles. That's the t-shirt. It's for size. But there are these things that are said, like that opening scene.
Starting point is 00:25:50 It's like, who confirms this? Who's written the definitive book about mermaids? And then when they catch that mermaid in the open, they go, we don't need the mail. Why? Why not? Where was that also? What are you getting? And then also, how do you know?
Starting point is 00:26:07 It was super dark out. I can't tell. I mean, imagine the access you would have to have. You could, you know another, you could, what? Stop, throw it back. Like, it's like a two small fish. What? You're going to cut, you're going gonna eat the heart of the mermaid and you
Starting point is 00:26:26 don't want to like chop a dick off a male mermaid. There's no use for it. Come on, I'm a little driver. I thought it's so strange. They keep on referring to her as being like such a rabble rouser. I'm like when when did that happen? She just wants to get out of the ocean. The only thing that we know of this person that's bizarre is she likes swimming. That's it. In the ocean. That's it.
Starting point is 00:26:52 And she doesn't even do it weird. It's tough for shoes. Go swimming. And she speaks her mind. She speaks her mind no matter who's asking. Because you're not supposed to speak up to the king or she keeps getting scolded. But that's, you know, yes, she talks truth to power.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Oh, well. Yes. There's so many things I want to get into. I just want to go back to Versailles because they shot there for three months. Like I said, but couldn't they have picked a day that was less windy for the one time everyone was outside? Because there's one scene where everyone's hair is like
Starting point is 00:27:24 whipping across their face. Like everyone their face like it was too windy to shoot that scene they should have gone back and should have done something I just remember that scene laughing so hard I've never seen wind in a movie that like unless it's twister like you don't see people look uncomfortable on a windy day and everyone in Versailles were like well also there were so many wigs I mean and that's where I started to think oh they could not afford a rewrite because of all of these wigs there were so many wigs we wrote this scene we already made the wigs so it's got to be what it was got to play the wigs have to play I didn't really love the Fisherman's
Starting point is 00:28:03 quarters at Versailles do you know know if those were actually the sailors' quarters? I think that that was not in. I don't think that the teeny tiny lighthouse, like the, like, it was like a my little pony lighthouse. This is my pretend lighthouse. Like, it's such a pretend,it's so far away from any water. Like, it's like, oh, let's make the fisherman comfortable by building this little baby.
Starting point is 00:28:33 It's like when they build weird things on the zoo. It's like, yeah, yeah, you're in the jungle, monkey. Enjoy it. Do you guys remember when she almost almost fanpitated? Yes, once again, once again, the mermaid heals her broken arm and everybody's like, oh my god, a miracle has happened in front of them and they're like, how soon until the solar eclipse so that I could cut this motherfucking thing open and chomp my way into its heart,
Starting point is 00:29:11 like I'm Edward Cullen trying to get my baby out of its mother's stomach. And listen, I don't know, I don't know about this. No, I like this. I don't know about the history of like setting cast and like, you know. There were no casts in the 14th century Okay, maybe for no cast, but and if there are any medical historians here, please raise your hand I read a summary of it. Okay, so do you and I'll get into it one question, but let me ask you first about the weeks
Starting point is 00:29:40 I guess my question is this you've a broken arm. I know it's the 14th century, but is the next step amputation? Did it alone been ruined? There's no risk of infection. Why does she have to have that arm amputated? It seemed to me that if the horse trampled her, I would buy amputations. Just to see if she just put her arm up and hit a branch. She landed wrong.
Starting point is 00:30:03 I wish they had amputated her arm. Then she'd gone in the water and it grew back. Like a starfish. Like a fucking starfish. How do I integrate to you? Let me ask you a question about this. The mermaid song. I know that she can hear it, but isn't like whale song only heard underwater? Like, you don't hear whale song above water. I think, huh, I think maybe you could if you were, if the whale was like shallow enough. Like if the whale is coasting on the top. Like, you can hear dolphin chirps.
Starting point is 00:30:44 I know that. But I'm just, I'm basing most of my knowledge on Star Trek IV. And I believe whale song is only heard underwater. Mmm. Mmm. Mmm. Now, I think you're right. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:03 You know, that is clear. And maybe it just is that everybody else is hearing those kind of dolphins, because they're all saying it sounds like a dolphin or something like that. But she hears this beautiful song. Oh, it's just, we don't hear the lyrics. No. No, we're not. Wait, we're not.
Starting point is 00:31:19 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, So my understanding is that our heroine that the live person outside of the water that she is able to interpret what that mermaid is saying So she not just she doesn't only hear it she is able to speak the language of mermaid Prior to Because she's translating for everyone Okay, I thought she was this here.
Starting point is 00:31:45 I don't know. I don't think so. Because, well, here's what I think the movie is actually just terrible. So I think it's purpose. It's confusing in a way. But I do think, because when we first meet, I might be wrong. But when we first meet the mermaid and they catch it,
Starting point is 00:32:04 I think it's making a bunch of like whale dolphins. Right. It's only once the King's daughter arrives and her presence that we start to hear it be this Malifluis kind of like Oh, so there is there is something about this movie because I think we're like what we're drawing the line is going, here's a girl who loves water. She's attracted to water. She needs to get in water. She meets a mermaid.
Starting point is 00:32:29 The mermaid's like, you and I, we're together. We're one, come under water. You don't need to breathe. Don't explain it. Don't worry about it. And let's go. And so it does seem like there is no giant payoff to that. He should have fucked a mermaid.
Starting point is 00:32:46 I mean, that should have been the... I mean, I think we all agree the movie would have been so much better if the first scene had been Pierce Brosden fucking a mermaid. If you do that, you only live to 87. Portland mains on board for that. Fuck the mermaid. Portland mains on board for that fuck the murr Rani Rani I cannot urge you more please go to Rennies before you leave this town What what I really liked in this movie was that they do a stand-up comedy night at dinner. When they are having dinner,
Starting point is 00:33:27 the fishermen are doing full-on, like they're doing like Sebastian Manescalco level. My mom says, don't eat the pasta, Sebastian! They're like, ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. Oh, I love you, you commoner. You know, they are performing. I've never seen like fisherman brought in to entertain during dinner. Like it's like a real dinner theater there.
Starting point is 00:33:54 It's fucking French. That's some French shit. Also, I loved when the guy was like, when our guy is like, hey, to his buddy, go create a distraction. And his distraction is to walk up to the guy head bottom and run away. What a dumb fucking movie. But then, are, and they let them shoot it for side. Come on.
Starting point is 00:34:17 I can't believe they were there. That's crazy. A good thing or a bad thing for a YA movie to say trauma equals greatness. Is this a YA movie? Well, I guess part of this. Who knows? Yeah, I guess you know. We've got a mazeronner. There's a mazeronner.
Starting point is 00:34:39 I wrote numerous times. Who is this movie for? What is the plot of this movie? And similar to what you were saying, is it a palace intrigue movie? A romance story? Is it a supernatural mermaid story about the evils of trying to retain power and killed the metal water? Is it, yeah, quite literally. Or is it the traditional, the king has a daughter, she doesn't know she's the king's daughter, what's she going to do with that? And it is none of those movements. The reality is it's not any of those movies. It doesn't execute at all on any level in
Starting point is 00:35:19 these movies. It's for the quake shocking. And it is a movie at which the end of the movie, the heroin, I believe, tries to commit suicide, assuming that the mermaid will resuscitate her. This was some wild stuff. I was focused on a guy with a musket saying I got the shot. From I was like that that musket ball's going 15 feet at most and you're shooting off a cliff because he must have been like you knock it out like Neil like Hold on Sire
Starting point is 00:35:56 I'll shoot the mermaid who's 20 feet below the surface There was so much farther below. I mean that was was so great about all those close-ups in that scene where someone's looking up at the cliff and some pierce-brothers looking down. It's like, you're so far away from each other. You can't communicate the thing. And also, if you've got, and the guys, I've got the shot, basically. Right? Like, he's gonna shoot the mermaid all the way down
Starting point is 00:36:21 in the water. And the mermaid stays above water. Like, I'll give you the shot. Why didn't she move? She's waiting. above water like I'll give you the shot. Why did she move? She's waiting she's like I Can't hear you I Fuck in there you bro Can we talk about Can we just talk about
Starting point is 00:36:42 The design of this mermaid the design of this mermaid, the design of this mermaid. I was very upset about her. It's like the dollar store version of Navi from Avatar. I felt like we could never, what I was really upset about is we could never fully see her. It's like if you're going to do that in a movie where you're not revealing what's in that net, fine. But when we see it, when you give it to us, it better be good. And June, let me just say,
Starting point is 00:37:14 she's the reason this whole movie got financed. What do you mean? The mermaid. What? Wait, are you saying that the real mermaid? I thought she was CGI. Did they cast a real mermaid? This is a story we will get into. Wait, I really didn't think she was a CGI character.
Starting point is 00:37:29 That's a person. That is a real person. She's the biggest actress in China. All right, her name is Fan Bingbing. And so Fan Bingbing, the reason why this movie was made, right? One of the most expensive, it was like, are we currently answering the question, how did this get? Oh my God, for the first time. I'm so sorry. Is this the final episode of the podcast? Have we reached the end? episode of the podcast. Have we reached the end?
Starting point is 00:38:04 Well, we now know. I need to get it. We're finally getting it. It's fan-bending. For that one person on iTunes is like, well, he didn't really ever answer the question. She could hear the song. The Chinese film company, Kyle in Films,
Starting point is 00:38:22 invested $20.5 million in the movie, making it China's biggest financial contribution to a non-studio film produced outside of China. Now I will get into fan-bing-bing because you're in for a wild ride. But I don't want to just derail us yet. I just want to talk about this is. I'm really shocked because I thought for sure that she wasn't a per- I did not, did you think she was a person? Well, I mean I thought, what do you mean? I mean, I thought she was fully animated.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Well, I mean her entire body is, but I did think a someone was doing the face. Yeah. I didn't think that either. Yeah. I didn't think that, but I didn't think that. Wow. The rest of the body appears to be a turtle without a shell. LAUGHTER Big flipper arms.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Tails. Tail. But I've never even got a good look at it. Well, that's it. You never really got a good look at it. It's fucking sea monkeys. It's fucking seat monkeys. It's all seat monkeys, right? Yes, there it is. There.
Starting point is 00:39:29 It is like a blurry drawing. It's like one of those things if I stare at it enough, will like a Mac truck come out in 3D? It's like, here's what it is. Is if I said to AI, shagal mermaid. Like it would give me this. Like some nonsense, just kind of,
Starting point is 00:39:47 this looks so bad. This is so terrible. And also her face, the way that they scaled her face, I found it to be very dissonant. And she's a real person. Look, let's take a look at clip four, riding the mermaid to see some of the special effects. Now, upon seeing that scene where she rides the mermaid, all I could think is how deep is this well. Yes, this well.
Starting point is 00:40:26 And you mustn't she be able to escape from it? I mean, it seems like there's plenty of room. Also, it reminds me because there they are swimming around the King's daughter and the mermaid. Okay, great. Among squirrel. Yeah, amongst squirrel, amongst all sorts of stuff. Now, and then she comes out of this and again, says something that should almost be the thesis of the whole Now, and then she comes out of this and again says something that should almost be the thesis of the whole movie, which is I can breathe underwater. She can breathe
Starting point is 00:40:53 underwater. That is enormous reveal. She should be doing nothing but completely for her heritage immediately. She is Atlantean. She is the sub-mariner's sister. What's happening? I can breathe under water. Well, then the end... But I gotta go play the cello for the king. But then the ending actually asks more questions, because if they do go to Atlantis together,
Starting point is 00:41:22 we know that fan Bing-bing, the mermaid is married and has child. What enough she's married? They have an open, it's very Will Smith, Jeta Pinkett, very open, they don't call each other husband and wife. But since she's been captured, he's just been going nuts. Forgive me, name more, for I have seen. Forgive me, me more, for I have sinned. But the, I feel like she brings her to Atlantis.
Starting point is 00:41:52 And she's like, oh my god, Atlantis. And this is like the most special effects. We see the entire movie. Is she ever going to go back to her landloven boyfriend? I feel like she's going gonna do what an upstairs downstairs. Okay. She's gonna ride around on the boat with him, and then she's gonna jump in the water and swim around.
Starting point is 00:42:11 I think she's gonna do both. That's sort of what I felt too, because he wants to be just on the water. But couldn't the mermaid also give him the special breath under water powers? I don't know. Because William heard. It was like, no.
Starting point is 00:42:24 As if, as if, why not? They can do anything in this piece of shit. I don't know. Because William Hurd was like, no. As if, why not? They can fuck it, do anything in this piece of shit. I don't know because I don't know that those were powers. I do think that she, I really now, after the last 57 minutes, have come to the conclusion that she's a 1,000% partner made. I believe that too.
Starting point is 00:42:41 Now that is absolutely, again she can breathe through water. And she can't even learn her language. That is as believable as William Hurt playing a character named Pierre, which I just realized right here. Well, and I will say, and I don't believe the episode has come out, but perhaps it's come out by the time people are listening to this, but we did just cover the Pope's Exorcism. Yes.
Starting point is 00:43:06 Now, here is a movie in which an Australian man plays an Italian priest, and we were like, thank God, literally, because we were absolutely dazzled by it, even though it was a terrible accent. He was incredible. Everybody in this movie is a goddamn mess when it comes to accents and belief ability in who they are. You know what though, except for Pierce Brosnan,
Starting point is 00:43:35 I do believe that he is having a great time out there. And I felt that that hair really gave him freedom. It's a great looking hair. Now again, for a movie that says, can I say something? I'm only when I'm seeing this. This picture alone, and I mean this, kind of makes me want Pierce Brosnan to play Trump in something. Do you say that? It kind of makes me want Pierce Brosnan to play Trump in something. Yes. Do you say that because I did notice that the whole time in the movie he was there, he was
Starting point is 00:44:12 very tan. Yes. He was very tan. Something. He's the sun king. If Pierce Brosnan played Trump in his own voice, It would be amazing. You call me deplorable and I say, now I will say we have a lot of inside information. I can read you later on in the episode a letter from a listener who was the tech supervisor of this movie who spent the last week talking to all of his friends
Starting point is 00:44:48 and collecting all the dirt from the post house. Huge. Huge. Wow. Thank you to that person. What is a tech supervisor? Well, he'll explain it a little bit. But just because I don't,
Starting point is 00:45:04 I'm gonna go out to the crowd. I wanna talk to the crowd, but I do want to talk about fan bing bing so fan bing bing huge star I really apologize that I thought she was CGI. No, you don't I mean I look let's be clear You're not wrong 97% is CGI. Yeah, there's just so much of her that is CGI I guess you don't really you would be surprised to be like, oh, that's the biggest actor in the movie. Like, to go, that's the biggest actor in this movie. Yeah, I just didn't know.
Starting point is 00:45:33 That is the draw. That, yeah, that, it's crazy because she has no real lines and she's barely on camera. But yet they gave this movie $20 million, half of its budget, because she's such a big star. No. they gave this movie $20 million, half of its budget because she's such a big star. Now, this was a $40 million movie. $40 million movie. And when you tell me it took three months in Versailles, I'm like, wow. It could have been a week and a half because it didn't seem like they had that many scenes.
Starting point is 00:45:54 Okay. I will probably mess up some details here. But Fan Bingbing was caught of vading paying taxes. And there was a rumor that she faked her death. I know that's not true. That was a rumor. But she disappeared for a year. No one knew where she went. I'm gonna say a Lannist. Did they check? She seems to have residency.
Starting point is 00:46:25 90? That was the year she was in the King's prison. She $97 million of unrecorded taxes. So what she was doing was saying to China, oh, I only made $1 million on this movie. But then also in America saying, pay me 12. And so she was creating this little scam. She disappeared for a year, came back, put up an apology video, and the
Starting point is 00:46:53 reason why they didn't release this movie for eight years is because the tax evasion was so, it brought to shame to her. In China. Tax evasion? Yes. That's what held up this movie. Yes. Is that not that it was done. Wow. So basically, I feel like Nicholas Cage has never paid one single tax bill.
Starting point is 00:47:15 And they can't wait to get his movies out. They basically felt like it would have been if she didn't have this disgrace on it, they would have been if she didn't have this disgrace on it, they would have done it. So then it lost its studio backing and there only had one international star Pierce Brosnan. So it sat on the shelf for eight years because of this tax evasion. Now, later on, I'll get into all the other ins and outs, but fan-bing-bing not paying her taxes is the reason why this movie did not come out in 2015 like schedule because this is gonna be a big movie in China. I mean I think I did it justice. Somebody can clarify some details.
Starting point is 00:47:51 It's a little sketchy. I went down a lot of wormholes right a very long vanity fair article which I would just recommend you read because it blew my mind. She has more followers on her Weibo account, and Weibo is like Chinese Twitter than the state of the Chinese government. That's the only social media I do. By the way, I've been following you on Weibo.
Starting point is 00:48:19 You have so many great things. Follow me, please follow me. All right, let's go out to the crowd. Let's talk to the crowd. What? Let's see to the crowd. What? Let's see what they have to say. All right, welcome. What's your name?
Starting point is 00:48:31 My name is Andrea. Andrea, what is your question? I am a children's librarian. When I, thank you, when I started, when I started working at my small main rural library, this film was shelved with the children's movies, Peppa Pig, Sesame Street, etc. I said, I don't know about that, so my boss said that you all can decide, if you would like to wang in, should we shelve it with the Peppa Pigs in Sesame Street? This should be an audience decision, because this is for your children of Maine.
Starting point is 00:49:09 This is for the children of, you know, this is a big decision. Here's what I'm gonna say, and I don't normally support things like this. I think you should burn it. That's it. That's it. That's it.
Starting point is 00:49:22 That's it. That's it. I feel comfortable. I feel comfortable. I feel comfortable saying this needs to be eradicated. I do think that that's where the marketing is really shady because the font, everything about this, you do think that it's princess diaries. It's the same font as princess diaries. Yes.
Starting point is 00:49:41 So I understand the confusion, but to have it next to Peppa Pig that's unsettling and also The King's daughter Kaya last name I can't pronounce is from maize runner is a part of like YA movies is in that world Well, I will say this as disturbing as this movie is It's no more disturbing than any Thomas the tank movie. I've ever seen So I would I would recommend this over Thomas the Tank, those weirdo trains. Well, that's, that's, I'm doing my best Thomas. Well, it's not good enough. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:50:14 If you can cut Thomas open and eat his engine, you are given immortality. You know what I really, my main complaint, obviously my only complaint, is that we didn't get to see the full body of the little mermaid. Yes. Oh, the baby. Oh, the baby. I was a mermaid.
Starting point is 00:50:33 I wanted to have a baby in the movie. I loved the mermaid baby. That was my favorite character in the whole movie. Ew. I thought that was the best character. We never got to see a little baby tale. I would have killed every single person and mermaid person in the movie just for the baby.
Starting point is 00:50:47 All right, your name and your question. My name is Kyle. My question is, in the very erotic dance scene, at the end, he flashes to another woman and they lose their steps. They go out to the well or whatever and she says, he starts talking about this woman from his past and she says, do I remind you of her?
Starting point is 00:51:16 And he says, no one reminds me of her. And there's an awkward pause. And then he says, until you. That was the scene where I was like, don't do neither of them know that this is his daughter. And by the way, if this movie had tipped into incest, much more interesting to me. Suddenly, I'm on board. But, oh boy, this. But I was so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, a statue and being like, oh, I know her. By the way, that scene that you're talking about when they're in that lover's atrium or whatever they're in,
Starting point is 00:52:12 also a historical inaccuracy. That was built 60 years after Louis XIV died. So just, yeah, again, saying the movie is historically inaccurate. All right. I'm curious. All right, your name, your question. Yeah, again saying the movie is historically inaccurate All right, all right, uh, your name your question Dre do we think the fountain was a reference to him keeping the mermaid mother that was left out of the movie Like he built the fountain for the mother to have her live there with him for a bit as a mermaid
Starting point is 00:52:46 Do you see new the mother was a a mermaid. How do you not know? The mother wasn't a mermaid. No, the mother wasn't a mermaid. She's blind and childbirth. Yes, my assumption is the mother was a mermaid, but had to aerial herself into some legs and some legs and some land stuff. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:53:03 She's out there on a land-based rum springa. You know, she pounds the king, has a baby, gets sent to the convent. Next thing, you know, she's back in the water. The daughter's like, oh, oh, I understand my language. I love the water, even though I got these legs. I don't know. Well, listen, once I saw that mermaid,
Starting point is 00:53:27 I was like, if you're female mermaid, well, you're mermaid, I guess. How do they give birth? What's the, where's, what's- What do you think? You think it's happening? I suspect it's like an egg. I assume it's an egg that they run up on the sand,
Starting point is 00:53:45 they bury it, they rip it in the sand, and they kind of waddle back into the water. That's why it's better to go to Greece when the... You guys want to see some pictures of pregnant mermaids? I got a bunch of pictures of my laptop, some pregnant mermaids. Normal Portland main man, give Paul the mic back. Just come come to back of Remi's show you some pictures of Pobregan
Starting point is 00:54:10 Mermaids. It's cool. We'll have a cool chill chill time. Did anybody else feel like in the scene when the King's daughter and not and Captain Jack Boring start making out in the grotto that the Mermaid is really creeping on them. They are like, fine, yeah. And the mermaid's like, and the mermaid POV shots are pervy as fuck. All right, I have a question here. What's your name?
Starting point is 00:54:41 My name is Mark. My question is, another famous, how did this get made movie Street Fighter, which was Ryle Julius final movie. Alright, I have a question here. What's your name? My name is Mark. My question is another famous how did this get made movie Street Fighter, which was Raul Julia's final movie. This movie because it was released in 2022 is William Hertz final movie before he died, which is the greater tragedy. Wait, are you saying it's a final movie? Wow, really throwing them the gauntlet. Is this the final movie that he released or the final movie he worked on? Released.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Thank God. So this is a question related to, did you realize this was a kiss of the spider woman related movie? Question? Fair. I will say that both of them, Raul Julia and William Hurt are giving great performances. Like, I actually like these performances a lot.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Bill Nye was supposed to be that character dropped out like a week before the filming started and then he took over. So he came in, didn't have time for a French accent and just went with it. It would have been... Bill, nobody had time for a French accent and just went with it. It would have been a pill. But no one had time for French accents. Bill Nye and Pierce Brosnan would have been too much at the same pitch. Agreed.
Starting point is 00:55:53 Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. Agreed.
Starting point is 00:56:01 Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. like that priest was up to something. Yeah. And also, I read that Bill Nye, the science guy, was also heavily considered. You can't kill mermaids. Mermaids are important for coral. Is Adam from the Discord here?
Starting point is 00:56:15 Because I think there was a good point. Oh, yeah, great, great, great. Adam from the Discord, you posted something in the Discord that I thought was an interesting point. But I'll let you take it away. Let's see what you got. First before that, I want to thank you all for repping Rennies. I am a Rennies employee.
Starting point is 00:56:28 I work at the one up in Farmington. Thank you. Thank you. Rennies, Rennies, Rennies, Rennies, Rennies, Rennies, Rennies. And go to the back for those dolphin picks. Which Rennies do you work at here in town? Uh, no, the one in Farmington, I drove like an hour and a half to get here. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:56:51 Farmington, daddy. All right, my question was, so Captain Jack Boring says that the Mermaid's tail can cut through stone. Why can't it cut through a net? Or the stone in the grotto? I don't remember. Wow, that's a great point because I don't remember him saying that it could cut through stone.
Starting point is 00:57:14 Yeah, because she was swimming in the grotto and he pulls her out and she says, don't you know that mermaids tails can cut through stone? Because she knew that mermaids existed in the first place. But I mean then why did she get captured in a net? She could have gone up saved her boyfriend by cutting the net and then when she's in the grotto Paul responded to me and he's like why didn't she just cut through that you know stone archway or what you're a stone barricade that cut her off from the ocean. Agreed. Yeah, no, I agree.
Starting point is 00:57:47 It does seem as though she had quite a lot of ability to get away. But maybe she wanted to stay with her daughter. Yeah, maybe she sensed that someone there needed her. And or that if she stuck around, she might be able to creep on two people fingering. Alright I'm gonna say this we've talked a lot about this mermaid and I think what I'm realizing is she's just a stressed out mom with a newborn and she's like oh my god you take him I need to chill for a little bit. So you think, what?
Starting point is 00:58:25 This is for her like semester abroad and Versailles. This is her like postpartum period of like, I just want to be alone in a body of water with a bunch of stones around me. I can't deal with the pressure of Atlantis and you and this baby. I just want to be incarcerated for a small amount of time with one of my best gal pals. Like they become best friends for reasons that I don't quite get. And that's why I would love your version of the
Starting point is 00:58:59 movie more where it was more like the shape of water where it was a burgeoning love story rather than just like, I can hear you. Okay, let's go swimming. Yeah, I really wanted the mermaid to carry her on her back over that big jump across the wall. And for that to be, because it was so built into the structure of the movie, naturally, and it felt like they just bailed on it.
Starting point is 00:59:24 Here's my question, and this is a genuine genuine question and I think the answer is most likely because who cares? Or because they didn't. But she facilitates the escape of the mermaid carrying the now unconscious Captain Jack Bory. Right? They whatever, free willy jump over the divide and are able to get to the water and blah, blah, blah. Okay, they escape. Which, by the way, Versace is very far from the ocean. Oh, it's easy, really?
Starting point is 00:59:51 Very. So, then my question becomes, why doesn't I can breathe underwater King's daughter jump into the water with them and take off for parts unknown? Why does she jump on her horse right to the top of a cliff? She gets as far away from the water as she, which is her absolute how she's escaping. She rides to the top of a cliff. Why? And I'm not going to leave until I get an answer. From you, poor lady.. Well Jason, I'm glad you brought this up. That horse, the biggest horse star in China.
Starting point is 01:00:30 Really? One of the biggest horse stars, everyone wants that horse in the movie. The horse pays its taxes. Now, unfortunately, that horse did not pay the Salt Lake tax. No, no. Because he's been a lot of Salt Lake, so that's another reason. I'll get into all that in a little bit. But now let's get our second opinion people down here.
Starting point is 01:00:49 Are three people getting your line over here? Yeah. Yeah. No, this movie definitely has those kind of plot holes where large elements of stories are cut out. Because that horse riding scene is like I'll go back to the palace and figure out this thing. Like there seems like there was something for her to do there. Yes, there must have been. That's why I
Starting point is 01:01:14 feel like there must have been and that plus the how short and clipped every scene felt not. It didn't feel like a they were getting anywhere or doing anything. There must be so much of this movie that was shot and left. Especially when you said three months in for a side, that's insane. I blame it on Julie Andrews. Me too. Should we all start a petition to like release all the clips? Should we release the Snyder cut? Release the... Give all the footage the Zack Snyder.
Starting point is 01:01:41 I mean, we would be releasing the Sean McNamara cut and if you know anything about Sean McNamara you would know that he is the director of Bratz. I don't remember it but I know we did it. Yeah and and also he was the director of Get Street Smart, a kid's guy, the stranger danger. Well, look, obviously we're never going to come to a conclusion of what was meant, but we will get to people who appreciate this movie differently than us, because now it is time for second opinions. Look at these wigs aren't they so neat? Look at this mermaid like a piece of meat. One, two, give it five stars, five stars for everything. Got a Fabio wig from Pierce Brosnan got a mermaid. He'll stab through the heart
Starting point is 01:02:49 Unresolved subplots. It's got 20 but who cares? It's so slow I am born Wow Wouldn't we love to watch a movie that's not Wow. Wow. When's it our turn? Wouldn't we love to watch a movie that's not a death? Oh, now we'll see. On Amazon's freebie. Who gave it five stars?
Starting point is 01:03:27 Amazing. We're halfway through. Halfway through an all-little mermaid section. And now it's time for second opinion. My name is Pat and I wish I didn't have a song from Little Mermaid but I'm sorry I do. Sorry. I love it. We're furious, Pat. One day I'm swimming with my family as I can get. Here's Rosinin looks like a deep fake. It's pretty swanced to suck his dick. Same shot of the Mermaid Swimming. You probably ten times or more.
Starting point is 01:04:08 That instrument's not a cello. The frets make it a vio. Underva-sai. Underva-sai. I'm all alone, but my fins could cut stone. I'm so sad I could cry. That Mermaid's totally trying to smash. That twink doctor is a pain in the ass his
Starting point is 01:04:27 Sciences wacky the costumes are tacky watch this movie Amazing wow wow I Do think Scott our producer should cut a super cut a just a little bit of all of the little merrily stuff. That's absolutely. Alright, King's daughter has an average rating of 4.4 out of five stars.
Starting point is 01:04:56 67% are five star reviews. And they go a little something like this. Lin A.ory writes, I'm getting so tired of all the wokeness crap being shown these days. I like an old fashioned fantasy type of movie that isn't trying to get political narrative across. This movie isn't as bad as others out there.
Starting point is 01:05:22 Five stars. Oh, man. Oh. Then Katie and Heather Chong wrote, purchased from my 11 year old daughter. She likes the fit and the style. I don't think it was for this movie. I think that was for a piece of clothing. One Pilgrim writes, this is a delightful movie with a great story great acting and just enough action
Starting point is 01:05:50 I wish there were more movies like this made it doesn't have that Landish casting and it doesn't cater to walk this Just a pure delight to watch five stars and watch five stars and and finally Butterfly writes this yes it's a fairy tale but it's very good we all enjoyed it it's a fun feel good movie I'm not sure our husbands would enjoy it it's definitely a girls movie Five of us are seniors and three teen granddaughters and it was a fun girls day. Five stars. Fun movie. It does make me like I will say a little bit gleefully happy that the anti-woke crowd are watching this movie and loving it.
Starting point is 01:06:45 Loving it. They think this is the answer to all their problems. They're like, fuck Barbie, give us the King's daughter. If this was a typical Hollywood movie, they would talk about saving the mermaid, not eating its heart. Okay, so I promised you earlier in the show that I talked to a long-time listener who worked on this film. What he says is this, I have seen various cuts of this film over 50 plus times before
Starting point is 01:07:21 it was shelved by Chinese investors for nearly seven years. We were all shocked when we saw this film had a release last year and assumed it had been lost to the cutting room floor, but where there's a will and a dodgy CGI mermaid, there's a way. So he talked to all the people who worked in the film and he said, tell me your stories. So, this is what it'll tell us. I'll give you the highlights. It was heavily backed by mysterious Chinese investors and they did not like the film from the start. They continued to send notes and re-edits of the film. There were screenings and changes every week for six months. We graded it 16 versions
Starting point is 01:07:56 of the film and then they still weren't happy. They took everything related to the film, all the digital archives and rushes and return back to China where it sat on to the shelf for seven years. archives and rushes, and return back to China where it sat on herself for seven years. But those investors who did not like the film loved the mermaid. And they couldn't decide how to make the mermaid, because there were many incarnations, some gross and scary, some angelic, and then they used mocap, and then they decided to make the whole thing look like Bing Bing. Then they made a...
Starting point is 01:08:27 Then they said that they started to add more CGI to the movie, but they had no money or reshoots. Pierce Brosnan wouldn't come back to do reshoots because he hated his costume. The original cut of the movie was not a fairy tale. There was no narration, and it was a serious movie. Just a period piece with mermaids. You can't say it was a serious movie. It was a period piece with mermaids.
Starting point is 01:08:57 And he said Pierce Brosnan hated his experience on this movie, miserable on set. But you can't tell that in his performance. Oh, no, he's fantastic. But I'm not surprised at all. This looks miserable. Budget 40 million. Opening weekend, 720,000.
Starting point is 01:09:18 Worldwide gross, 2 million. Wow. Tagline, a king, his daughter, a hidden world. Atlantis is the hidden world. This came out the same year that Namor was revealed in the MCU. Yes, right? Yeah, well, it came out the same year as Top Gun Maverick, Black Panther, Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness. It was beaten by Moonfall, Morbius, and Ambulance, but here's the thing, 21% on tomato meter, 80% on the audience score.
Starting point is 01:09:53 Is that you guys? I believe Portland made for that. Wow. I'm okay. I know it came out, obviously it only came out in 2022, but I had zero awareness of this as existing. Oh, I can't do it. Yeah. As existing.
Starting point is 01:10:12 I don't think you should. Right. I've known about this movie. I think probably, if anything, it came out in two or three theaters. When I saw, when I looked up, you know, the thing and was like, oh, okay, this is what I got to watch, I looked at the image, I looked at whatever. And I was like, oh, this, this is what I got to watch. I looked at the image, I looked at whatever, and I was like, oh, this movie is from 10 years ago, or it was from another time.
Starting point is 01:10:30 So then to realize it was a 2022 movie, rocked my world until I researched so little and found out that it was shot in 2014. So it, yeah, it does have a little bit of a time travel quality to it. It does look like a COVID movie though, because not many people are in those scenes. It's like two people in every scene, it's like, but I guess the question is, would you recommend it?
Starting point is 01:10:52 Absolutely. I mean, this is absolutely because this is so, this is just, it's so shocking. This movie is so shocking to me. Again, when I, when that mermaid, when I first realized there were mermaids in this, I mean, it's just such a shock to the system that I highly recommended actually. I agree. Yeah, I highly recommend it. And I think Pierce Brosnan's having fun,
Starting point is 01:11:17 despite the fact that it was just revealed he was not having fun. Um, he really looks like he is is and this is something to see. Is there something to behold? Here's what I'll say. Yes, I agree in the sense of you have to see this to believe it. That's right. Because in any other way, shape or form, you cannot with your mind to die and what it's happening. You're totally right. When they go to Atlantis at the very end, it's like you couldn't. I was like, what?
Starting point is 01:11:49 And they spend so much time in Atlantis, just swimming around, you're like, this is the beginning of a movie. This should be our act. But it's the end. It should be act three. Act three should be go to Atlantis, recruit Atlantis to come and fucking kick ass.
Starting point is 01:12:07 They say that for Wakanda forever. I will say, you got very much like our audience here. Don't read the book, but read the summary. So maybe keep that fast forward, clicker in your hand, and stop. Because there are things that you need to appreciate. But like a train, you should go buy them quickly. You appreciate it more. I felt this movie flew by for me.
Starting point is 01:12:31 It flew by. I have to admit, it did not fly by for me. Mostly because I spent so much time trying to figure out who is the protagonist of the movie. Like truly, who is this movie about? Well, let's leave it to the audience right here and ask the question that was asked by our audience. If you think this is a kids movie, I want you to clap your hands and will remain in the kids section in the library.
Starting point is 01:12:59 Or, all right, so let's go. Or if you're in the adult movie, you clap your hands. Kids movie. A adult movie, you clap your hands. So, kids movie. Adult movie. Well, you have your answer. It's going in the adult section. We're hopefully an adult will burn it.
Starting point is 01:13:15 Thank you, Maine. Thank you, Portland. Thank you for coming out on a Wednesday. We love being here. You guys were fantastic. Give it up for Jason Manzucas, June Dan Reveal. I am Paul Sheer. We will come back. This was amazing.
Starting point is 01:13:29 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Each shipping. Randy. Randy. Randy. Randy.
Starting point is 01:13:37 Randy. What a show. Thank you so much to the staff at the state theater and our amazing tour manager, Beth Thomas Portland, we loved you. We are going to be back to Maine. You guys are a very cool town. I had so much fun there and I think that we really made a great how did this get made main centric shirt. I don't even fully get it, but I believe the design captured exactly what you all wanted. A main adventure right there, you could go to tpublic.com slash stores, slash httgm and you could check it out and make sure you're buying your stuff from T public
Starting point is 01:14:17 because I've seen a lot of bootleg stuff out there. It's been bumming me out, misprints and off centered. They don't do it the quality way the T public does it. Now, here's the thing. Uh, that was a great live show. And we're going to be doing a lot of live shows. I mean, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, live shows. And we want you to be there. Uh, we're going to be in Los Angeles, January 24th, 25th, 26th. We're going to be in San Francisco on February 3rd. And we're going to be in San Diego on February 3rd and we're going to be in San Diego on February 4th. Then we're going to be in London on the 28th of March and the 29th of March. We had to add a second show.
Starting point is 01:14:53 I think those shows might be sold out at this point. We'll also be in Glasgow, Belfast and Dublin. We want you there. Go to hdtgm.com. That's right. We're international baby. And if you missed my announcement this week, my book, Joyful Recollections of Trauma is now available for pre-order. You can get it as an audiobook, which is going to have some extra special features in it. You can get it as a regular book, which is, we'll have
Starting point is 01:15:21 different things than the actual audiobook and people. It's important that you buy this. Honestly, I'm going to be very honest with you because it helps me. It helps me because I wrote this book for Harper Collins. And you know, if you want to get you, make sure your library gets it in stock. Do that. It's called Joyful Recollection of the Trauma. It's going to be coming out in May.
Starting point is 01:15:42 But if I sell enough books, I could start referring to myself as a New York Times best selling author. Now that's a big, it's a big thing to crack, but I think I could do it because I know that this audience is amazing. Again, my book is called Joyful Recollections of Trauma, and I can't tell you exactly what right now, but if you pre-order the book,
Starting point is 01:16:00 you are in for a lot of special surprises. No joke, I'm going all out here. I'm spending my own money to do some cool things for everybody who buys the book ahead of time. So you could go to my website, find out how to get it, or just really go to any place you buy books, go to your user library, whatever you want to do, check out Joyful Recollections at the trauma. This is not going to be the last time you're going to hear about it.
Starting point is 01:16:23 But I do want to say one more thing to all of you. If you need to find us, you can find us online everywhere at hdtgm.com. But if you're not on my discord or how to diskit me discord, you are missing out on really the big conversations that we are having. Go check out the how to diskit me discord at discord.gg slash hdtgm or leave me a voice mail at 619 pay you L a S K and we are going to be doing a very big last looks next time Jason will be here. We'll be talking about Dungeons and Dragons and we will be talking about the King's daughter. So please, please tune in for that. It's going to be fun. We also
Starting point is 01:17:00 have some special guests coming up on last looks that I'm very excited about. All right. And remember, TeleFriend, this show only exists because of the word of mouth that we get through our listeners and you are our listeners and we appreciate you so, so much. And you know what, watching these bad movies is so much better when you do it with a friend. And last but not least, let me say a very special thank you to our entire behind the scenes team. That's right. I'm talking about our producer, Scott Sonny, Molly Reynolds, our movie picking producer, Aval Halley, our engineers, Casey Holtford, and Rich Garcia, our associate producer, Jessus Neroz. And let me tell you this, this is not the last time I'm going to thank them.
Starting point is 01:17:38 I'm going to keep on thanking him because they keep on doing great work. That's all I got for now. Joyful recollections of trauma. How did this get me? It on tour. We will see you on the road, or maybe just here next week. All right, bye for now. you

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