How Did This Get Made? - The Oogieloves in the Big Balloon Adventure LIVE!

Episode Date: November 25, 2022

Finish sucking your milkshakes because Paul, June, and Jason are LIVE from the Fillmore in Detroit to discuss the 2012 mega-flop The Oogieloves in front of an especially ornery audience. Despite June and Jason’s plea to cut this entire episode, the crew discuss Christopher Lloyd only speaking through bongos, J. Edgar the horny vacuum cleaner, reveal the film’s shocking budget, and ask “Is this movie actually about hospice care?”  Buy Drop Dead Fred LIVE on Vinyl: https://hdtgm.bandcamp.com/Go to www.hdtgm.com for tour dates, tickets, and more.Follow Paul on Letterboxd https://letterboxd.com/paulscheer/HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: https://discord.gg/paulscheerCheck out Paul and Rob Huebel live on Twitch (https://www.twitch.tv/friendzone) every Thursday 8-10pm ESTSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael here: listen.earwolf.com/deepdiveSubscribe to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson here: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledCheck out The Jane Club over at www.janeclub.comCheck out new HDTGM merch over at https://www.teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmWhere to Find Jason, June & Paul:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is Not on Twitter

Pull up your pants wake up your pillow and suck down your chocolate pizza beat milkshake because we are ready to Adventurize we saw the oogie loves in the big balloon adventure so you know what that means All the way to the room Just to suck a bunch to our life How do you stand a lot they call me when you're bad-ass and he's on the line Cuz they cool as ice cuz the bad Jim Barney looking kind of nice Julas make a shower the monkey shots in the pain There's a bunch of movies won't be making the great is a real question for you out of this kid

We are live at the historic film or theater to talk about a historic film Oogie loves why did we choose oogie loves for Detroit the answer is simple because you made it This was shot in Farmington Hills You did this to us Detroit You can't ship this shit out to Hollywood and expect us not to bring it back You Brought this on yourselves So in Detroit asks why we say because you

It's like that drug commercial. I learned it by watching you dad. I Learned it by watching you. I also don't want to leave out Holland. It was also shot in Holland, right? Oh, yeah But if you've not seen oogie loves and I can't really state how much you should see oogie loves in the big balloon adventure This is what you need to know. It's about three characters That are different colors and they're on an adventure to find a handful of balloons for their pillows Birthday party. I don't even know if it's their pillow. It's a pillow

Who's on a weird sleep cycle? So anyway, we will break it all down if it doesn't make sense It really is the it's like if Teletubbies decided to Make avatar. I don't know. It's a weird It's like they overshot what they could have done and did do but it's got great guest stars We're talking about Chaz Palma Terry Tony Brax and Carrie L ways and so many more But to break this movie down properly, we must introduce my co-host. Please welcome to the stage mr. Jason Manzukas How we doing Detroit

That's what I'm talking about Oh, wow, this movie was a stone-cold nightmare Now Jason Holy shit might I think I disagree with this is you know what this is this is and I'll allow it because I'm gonna say it This is my Jacob's ladder scenario. I Died in Houston. This is my nightmare These are the final firings of the synapses of my mind Creating this fever dream before us

These are God. I hated it These are amazing characters. It's the longest hour and 28 minutes. You'll ever have in your life Is that all it is? It took me It was about a four-hour car ride to get from Indianapolis, Detroit and it took me about four Hours and 45 minutes to watch this movie. Well, and you watched while driving. All right while I was driving on the road Yes, I Watched part of this movie in the shower Because I was like I need to get this filth off me. Oh

My gosh, if only we could see it in the theater, but you know what? there's someone who Enjoyed this movie. I think as much as me because I watched her acting out some of the moments from the film as She watched it. Please welcome my other cause the lovely June Diane Welcome June. Hi Paul. How are you? I'm fine. Thank you so much for asking June I Want I have a couple parameters for my work here tonight. I Want that down. I don't want any I

Don't want anyone to have to look at that and we can't play clips Paul We can't is the only time that the audience revolted when I asked them and Stage screaming don't play it This is the same how well who who would have thought that we would find ourselves in a position clip one Bring it on Here it is all sit back in real life. Oh, no, it's too early Everybody get out of your seats And they say it's okay. Hey everybody look here come the butterflies get out of your seats and let's dance a little

The world is over Paul seriously, that's it. Okay. This is that's it. I feel like this movie is creating Manchurian candidate children. I feel like this is instilling post-hypnotic suggestion in kids This movie opens up with a prologue to tell you how to act in this movie and this movie at multiple points It's telling children get up be loud get out of your seats And I can't think of a worse way to experience anything Then giving children the freedom to run in a theater and scream and shout if only Well, this was not released in theaters. Oh, it was. No, what?

This was here was this I'm about to be shocked No, it came out in 2012. Oh, okay on the shelf for four years And it was a film that I wish it had stayed on the shelf keep it on the shelf Well, the film did have some record-breaking stats number one It's the lowest opening weekend gross for a film playing over 2,000 theaters It only grossed $445,000 In a hundred and sixty theaters and the previous record holder was I think that's pretty good. I

Do I'm like those are those are respectable numbers for this Well, the reason why it was held on the shelf was because the producer felt he did not get the technology to the point He wanted the lights to go off in different ways. He wanted visual cues He wanted this to be a sensory experience for the audience Yes, creating a like a squadron of child soldiers who can be activated Simply by saying one two one two three Wendy window. What do you see one two one two three? Wendy, please show me. I think we need to And then it's just murder murder murder murder murder

I think what this movie did for me was open my mind and my eyes to How great puppets can be because these puppets look glassy-eyed and sleepy like they look like murder puppets And their their mouths their mouths really didn't move no in a way that at at this point Puppet mouths we we've seen the move puppet mouth by 2012 like if you told me this was in 1994 I'd be like, okay, cool. They did a great job 2012 or whatever four years earlier still they can make the mouths move the mouth can go up and down I will say that there is a one weird moment and I don't have one Well, look, I'm gonna be one way you're right though

There's one weird moment and one million terrifying moments. Well, no Jason Paul be honest about how I want you to be honest Yes in Detroit. I want you to be honest about how you felt about the movie. I didn't mind it And why didn't I mind it? Someone's walking out Someone's walking out There was literally someone who tweeted at me. Someone tweeted at me. I sold my ticket because of this trash And I'm like, you're not coming to the movie dude and also chill out But and you know what you need to know that I'm boycotting your boycott

I walked into the green room today and Paul said I thought it was pretty good. Well, let me tell you why I think that I don't know let me tell you why I think that I don't think it was that bad because we watch So well much of this shit. Okay, so I will say we definitely have a higher tolerance Yes, and I think probably all the parents in the audience have a higher tolerance for children. This is for children Children's programming. I Do believe it's for children. Yeah. No, no, yeah, so I might you know for every one bluey There's like 10,000 pieces of shit. I mean absolutely like but even within that Paul when you were watching the movie in the car You stopped it at one point turned to me and said it's not that bad

It's not that bad. I'm immune to it. Yeah, I was like really cuz I was very concerned about and I mean while I was sobbing in the fetal position in the shower Watching it like please let this be over, but is this Kloris Leachman's final role? RIP a legend by the way, that's my biggest question is how in God's name Did they get people to leave their home? I need that money how much how much could they Braxton Well, by the way, Tony Braxton straight up great like like everybody number

I love turn number everybody who comes and plays in this movie, and I want to get into Christopher Lloyd I'll put him on the side, but okay everybody who came Like really brought it like are some things potentially racist. Yeah, sure Are there some weird? Yeah, they are I mean they already like yeah, this is a kid's movie that has real racist problems in it Yeah, this is a problematic movie. I mean, but when you watch Chas Palmentary, you're like, oh he took this for the money No, he took it for a chance to do a full-on character like he He was like you want me to sing I'll sing I'll sing into a fake ice cream cone. No problem. You got it

So you're telling me that Before this movie so they're making they're about to make this movie and there's no original property There's no like oogie loves cartoon. Well, the idea is that this gentleman brought a lot of big shows to the States Tell the Tubby's he's made millions on bringing Other shows like Thomas the train and this here and he's like well, hey I'm gonna invent my own and I'm gonna shoot it in my hometown Michigan The town of Michigan. Well, I mean I just saying like it's in a few different spots in Michigan

Okay, wait, here's my main question about the oogie loves Gooby to be in Okay, who can I just stop you for one second? Yeah, what's up? Who would have thought that in 11 years of doing this podcast? We would cover two characters named Gooby wild really wild I Never thought I'd say the word again. I have I have Proudly never said it until just now since the last time here's my question. Is there a last name love?

Well, because sometimes he's called when he's Radioed by the vacuum cleaner J Edgar J Edgar Vacuum cleaner. Yes when he's another kids. That's a joke kids will love they're gonna die When kids that connects they're gonna go crazy. They're gonna be like, holy shit this vacuum cleaner is a Hoover Jay at Jay Edgar Hoover As a parent this is the kind of two-tiered content I'm looking for sure stuff for me stuff for the kids If I told you that this that this movie was was made to summon a demon. Would you believe me Jason?

I know you don't I know you're resisting talking about the actual movie. I can feel it. I don't want to I can feel it. I Know you don't want to get into the nitty-gritty, but I must ask let's go to the Knit and the grid are okay, so when Jay Edgar calls a Milwaukee talkie Gooby he calls him gooby love Right, I have a question about this right, but then they are called as a collective the oogie loves But the airport is also a love airport. It's called loveville. So they live in Loveville Oh, wow, so they have a monopoly over most of the industry of love No, so is there is there so their last name is love they

Everybody's last name love. Oh, no Jay Edgar is well for I assume. I Mean, I don't know you can't assume that You can't we can't we can't assume anything. I do believe we never understand So you believe their last names are loves. I don't believe anything What I was just saying was that the airport? Airport also has love in its title and then the airplane also had love in its title I think that love is just all around us and that's really what the film is celebrating June to answer your question, I don't know if everyone is who cares, but they are the oogie love cares

That could be oogies Could they be gooby gooby oogie? Gooby oogie. I was asking Gooby oogie loves Zuzi oogie love and Judy, I think Judy here's my theory I think all their last names are oogie and then the the creatures are loves So like we're humans their loves so it is gooby oogie What? Zuzi oogie and choofy oogie and they are loves. Don't make direct eye contact with me. What you're saying now Now if they were lost I feel if they were lost, they would be gooby oogie lost. Oh, no, I don't like it anymore

There's like a there's like a it's like disgusting if there's something disgusting about this there is and I'm not gonna lie This movie there's been a couple of movies. We've watched that have made me feel nauseous and this is one of them where I was like Were you a little sick? Were you uncomfortable with clip for Beth clip for? Were you if this is the kids pants falling down? I'm gonna flip out Jason you and I are in complete sync Were you uncomfortable June when a young man dropped his pants? I knew it. I I Wish I could get dressed like this Tooth me think you need a belt for those pants toofy. I don't like belt

Okay, but every time your pants fall down we're gonna say goofy toofy pick up your pants Wait, is his name goofy toofy toofy pick up your pants Goofy toofy. He's being goofy. He's like By the way, he's toofy. He's toofy. He's goofy. He's goofy not goofy So if gooby pants fall down and say they would say goofy gooby pull up your pants. He's just being goofy Here's the thing Wow, you would think in a movie where a character's pants fall down and I counted it four times Is that at the end I think that you're on a watch list now

At the end you might say, you know what guys I learned my lesson. I'm always gonna wear a belt But no he never learns a lesson. He's okay was showing them Well, here's who you love balls Paul don't ever say that again. I am I'm so if you want to see sleepy eyes. You got to see some oogie balls Paul, please cut that part cut it. Just cut this whole episode Cut the whole episode never gonna be aired So I guess what I come back to if we could pull out for a second from all of the characters the world everything

If we're just looking at the basic story They are trying to get five different balloons that have flown away and balloons Well, we'll talk about that in a second, but they're trying to get these balloons for this pillow who? has to be woken up for his own party and When he is it honestly looks like he wants to immediately go back to sleep Shluffy is ill Shluffy Shluffy presents as someone who is in hospice

Like a thousand percent you think Shluffy is an this is end of life. You think Shluffy's an end of life care I mean it was if this was honestly like hospice care because God bless all hospice workers hospice care is amazing Of course this is hospice care, then I totally understand the movie So does that make the does that make it does that make the oogie loves and Jay Edgar death doulas? That they are helping Shepard Shluffy from the other side from this mortal coil to the next Shluffy also looks so much like a pillow that Jay would fuck on Big Mouth That I found it very upsetting Amazing I do want to talk about Shluffy when Shluffy does get all of these surprise gifts and all of his presents

Shluffy does not have much of a reaction. Also, Shluffy can't walk. I believe Shluffy is I believe Shluffy is and maybe I'm wrong. I believe Shluffy is a baby What oh, I think the oogie loves their kids and Shluffy is like a bit not a bit like is like a baby is like Well, that's why the baby is sleeping all the time and say the word Sleep cycle Shluffy's sleep cycle is is going on right now. So that means that Shluffy is not up when the when Gooby Toofy and Zuzi are up

Right, Jesus Christ Like we are adults. No We're adults a this conversation embarrassing thing. I've ever done this guy like ever child protective services are here now I mean to talk to all of us this movie is like Jules Verne. It's seeing the future this what the oogie loves Living is like a tiny house. Everything rolls out the table goes back away No, listen, I did like the functionality of some of the Listen, you know, you're I would fucking kill to live in a teapot in a tree. Yeah Fuck yeah with Chloris Leachman. There are these weird moments where like clearly Chloris Leachman's like, yeah

I'm here for whatever you paid me, but I'm sitting down during the dance. She shares She shares no see no, maybe I missed a like a wide she is in her own shot the entire time She doesn't share a screen with any of the oogie loves and Christopher Lloyd Does not speak until one line that they know he gets it. He's like, I'm not doing that I'll just play the bongos as speech. I I don't want and honestly it was a very compelling performance. I Was really captivated by him. I thought he was great I love and I would if there was like set decoration

I would love to get that three Like Christopher Lloyd trio behind him. It was like a standee of like three versions of Christopher Lloyd one at a mustache The other one was like a normal guy like he was a part of a band. I was in such a fugue state watching this I don't remember that my mind is actively trying to wipe this movie from its memory worry about it Please don't please don't okay. No, go ahead. No, we don't have it. I thought we did good. Thank God Oh, we do. I just damn it Wow the stairs I'm getting from you to there it is there is the Brattle is powered by the dancing we will all need to help let all please a tune for our travels We

Shall be there in no time that was the tune important that we move in unison. I Mean that kid that good. Is that gooby the green one gooby I think that's two feet Gooby is the green one. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah all right, stop it so Are we cool with this No, we think is appropriate. No, this is not okay. The only only thing I can say About how inappropriate it is is by picking Jamie presley you picked someone so clearly not it like aggressively not it that I'm like does that make it better in a way like well

clearly you can't even make you can't even assume it like she is listen I think did I die like honestly like this was this is nuts level stuff and it's for kids well the big problem with this movie is every one of their adventures involves them getting into a very hypercarious spot they always are climbing fucking ladders getting on the top of planes like every like most kids movies teach safety this movie is like yeah climb up to the top of the truck yeah jump on the back not only not only like not only is that the the thing but there they're teaching kids to do these things like there's a song about how to

climb a ladder lift your arms and lift your legs to climb to the top it's square also these songs are dog shit these aren't catchy these aren't fun the it is like these are haunting narratives these are these are nightmare fuel this is this is awful shame on all of us by simply helping this movie by downloading it and I know that's what I'm worried about what we've done to the algorithm we you know don't worry about the algorithm because they're already two sequels to it what don't make us do them no Jason we're not gonna do that no Detroit demand together Detroit's gonna demand it no

they're not they clearly love it they loved it if we did this show in Farmington Hills they would be going nuts the amount of money it brought the Farmington but I do think like they do talk to the ladder in a weird way to say ladder ladder take my dare what's the dare to hold me my full weight on it like I did like I dare to climb you I dare to challenge gravity I don't know I don't know and you know what that highlights these are bad songs once again this that these are just these it's where it's like someone wrote songs using boggle it's like Tony Braxton's number now I love seeing love seeing

Tony Braxton and I loved her number but did you write it you think she I think that she had to have written it they must have given her a dog shit song she must have done a pass but the actual words of that song are absolutely insane do you remember me and I well this song the premise of the song is like let's teach kids how to be sick but it's also seems to have an allergy you also put a mask on put a mask on and stay home if you feel that way but do you remember any lyrics to it it was like if you got a cough cough cough if you got a sneeze that chew something like so good I would love to hear it clip six oh how did you

not be that coming you're playing right into his hand are we gonna watch this whole song I just want to remind Beth I was waiting to see Beth who's running our show and running our clips like we all pay your salary bet everybody up here like I feel like we need to do a mental health check on everybody the best the best job anyone's ever done this highlights something that I would like to talk about which is this the oogie loves are they're on this mission as we've talked about to collect the five missing golden balloons in order to celebrate Shluffy's birthday who is napping of course we all

know but the oogie loves appear to be a band why isn't the movie about their band why aren't they all you know Jason I think you're absolutely right I didn't know they were banned by the way but now I'm realizing that's how the movie opens the best part is they the movie opens and they're like we're the oogie loves check out this when we do this to get up and then they go to their instruments and they're like we're the oogie loves they don't play the instruments well the band's name is the oogie loves I don't know I don't have answers I don't want to be here anymore I will say that I want to go to bed they give these

characters they give these oogies a lot of mechanical actions ride a bike play a piano play a bass guitar they can't do any of them like them on the bikes I got just send the character that has wheels but they're not lean into what they can do why not if you're like okay these are the costumes and the costumes look eerily like teletubbies so this guy must have some familiarity with what teletubbies can do that's what I'm saying so why not lean into these you should you know what this is do stuff that these these form factors can do well I also thought it was very strange and rather cruel of the oogie

loves to force Jay Edgar to stay home and not come on the adventure and the excuse they gave him was so anemic they were just like yeah you're better off staying here with Wendy well here's the thing that I'm gonna want him to go I agree with you but Jay Edgar is thrilled because Jay Edgar is horny I know Jay Edgar is like wait Wendy window okay okay I'm into Wendy with Jay Edgar is so well he's like I want to empty my bag in this window I do want to ask too much the bag is full of dirt dirty Jay Edgar collecting dirt on everyone it seemed like their motivation was just that they didn't want

them they didn't want him there I know they I think what they were like it was like you fucked this up for us you lost the balloons you are not allowed to come on our big balloon adventure and here's the thing they're not big balloons I would say they're average if not small average to small I would say they're ordinary those balloons are gonna lose their helium very quickly they're magic I believe well no one seems magic because they go oh my gosh he talked to me and then when the fish wins the milkshake sucking contest okay okay I'm gonna stop you right there Paul because you just said the sentence when the fish

wins the milkshake sucking contest you're an adult man in a room full of people we did not consent to hear that I appreciate good art I appreciate good art from Detroit Shinola oogie love they're the same okay wait but check you in question what makes those balloons magic they have faces and talk at the end they were magic this is my theory okay how many how many theories do you have about this movie the most notes I've ever taken this book is full the balloons didn't want to be there because the balloons seem to have their own like they call us back do whatever the balloons like I don't want to celebrate

shuffy shuffly shooly shoofy they I feel like those balloons are trying to get away well it's just so weird that they're all shocked that the balloons talk it's like yeah the vacuum talks in the window the window doesn't just the window can see anything any of them you the window is God you think windy is a God she can see and know everything well I don't know how the technology works because she also has like a FaceTime activation because at the end all the characters come back and do a direct-to-camera wishing shluffy happy birthday oh thank God I did not see that you didn't see that I don't wait what

moment Jason oh wait oh no no I thought during the crowd oh I was sorry sorry I thought during like a credit no during the credit sequence they just take the greatest moments of these characters and replay them but what I think I was really surprised about was there are humans in this world so like the milkshake shop is full I'm sorry do you mean milky Marvin's milkshake manor which is absolutely a strip club in Detroit tell me that's not a strip club I can go to after this show oh you guys go you gotta go see how did this get made the film or and then go to milky Marvin's milkshake manor and fucking explode dust

all over a mirror we take a look at some of the posters from milky Marvin's milkshake manner disgusting milky Marvin obviously has a bunch of cow paraphernalia I do want to get into the cow we're gonna show some of the movie posters we have some pictures of it but like look at this this is a sound of music I believe that that's breakfast or maybe it's something at Tiffany's movie at Tiffany's I don't know and the other one is what is that a parody of the seven-year hoof oh the seven-year itch who rough so and are we to believe that in in milky Marvin's milkshake manner milky Marvin is the host but a cow does

all the cooking I can't imagine that is milky Marvin is a fascinating character go on because milky Marvin in an effort to like I guess drum up business or just to keep customers loyal has staged a giveaway in which he's putting on a milkshake drinking contest and the first person or fishing sucking contest first person or animal who who sucks the milkshake down quickest wins by the way Nada doesn't get you know dinner on the house doesn't get their next meal free doesn't get another milkshake they get one of the balloon that got caught in his weather vane so I was like back to when I heard that I was like wait so

milky Marvin found a stray balloon and then decided like I know he's like the piece American ingenuity he's American ingenuity just like Henry T Ford that is that way that this country goes forward I find a balloon I use a balloon I created a panic in my store for the milky Marvin also a Nazi sympathizer and that's what's so interesting about milky Marvin too because for all he noticed it's not a magic balloon no he's just balloon he sees trash he sees it is right is detritus in the in the in his place that is I'll build a contest around this American ingenuity and it's fine it's a whole campaign around it and he's like

you the cow you get back there you make these fucking disgusting milkshakes I wish there was a scene also like he I don't think those people were even paying for those milkshakes so it's like he's put out the money to make all these milkshakes to then just give away a balloon do you think Chaz commentary was like you know what Christopher Walken gets to sing and dance in all these things why can't I sing and dance and they were like hey Chaz you want to you want to sing a song with this fucking bunch of idiots and a cow making milkshakes and he's like I'm in you know we said earlier on that the that

everybody's pretty much a dr. in this movie that they were recorded their voice afterwards that must mean that the sounds coming out of those oogie loves costumes are so atrocious that they couldn't cover it up oh absolutely the yeah category and I'm I wonder if the voices of the oogie loves are even the voices of the actors in the suit they are not Mike oh okay there you go but I will say that the dancing from the humans in this are like when I try to learn a choreographed dance it looks so it's like I'm dead they are doing the actions but without any rhythm and with an insecurity that is so large yeah like

it made me feel uncomfortable watching it like I don't I know it wasn't what Paul it wasn't ready but in some ways it made me feel more comfortable cuz I was like okay not a lot of rehearsal went into this that's it's better in a way I like that I take that on I take that now they did say this is gonna be the most amazing movie ever you guys disagree with that in the beginning they did call they call their shot they call their shot early and then fail immediately because I mean I think the reason why you two are reacting like this is because negatively yeah truthfully truthfully the only way that should people should

react well I think you're reacting like this because it's imagine a world in which your kids became obsessed with this movie and they were like thinking about can we watch oogie loves can we watch oogie loves can we watch oogie loves can you imagine this is the question I ask you do you think you're reacting negatively to the movie because the characters kind of live in that uncanny valley it's like when they look so realistic but also yeah I do believe like I do believe this whole movie like the way that they sold all these actors is like this is gonna be the next big thing so everyone did believe oh I need

to bring my egg in this is not a shitty thing like this is gonna be the next you know this is gonna be my next audience like Tony Braxton was like I'll come she looks great Tony Braxton looks the best at our lit the best sings the best and I do believe that they're because children's television is so bad that no one on set could be like what did I get myself into everyone's like yeah it could work it could work I mean if it was a movie I mean I'm doing all the work for the movie if it was a movie about the oogie loves a band and they had a band trajectory they were gonna do perform in a concert or whatever and

and then they come across Chloris Leachman or Tony Braxton and they become singers with the band and all that there would be something to that that would be interesting to me the idea that they need to the quest is the call to adventure for these characters is just missing balloons for a sleepy cushions birthday party this is not enough to get Frodo out of the shire and it's so hard because shut up nerds it's so hard because I find this sometimes with plays or any sort of a movie that tells you ten things are gonna happen even if you're enjoying the movie when you know it's number three

you're like okay get to four and then five and then okay so even when you're enjoying you can't help but to think through how long the rest of it's going to be with this I kept on thinking to myself how many balloons how many balloons I thought there were five and I thought there were four okay how many were there after what at balloon one the fourth balloon was was recovered I it we still had like a half an hour 36 minutes left and I was like oh my god there's more there's more balloons when they blew kisses to the balloons and that's the way that they I did not like this I don't think we should be

encouraging children to just blow kisses at anybody or anything well you know it was interesting I'm thinking back on that scene clip nine when I'm thinking about nine when I'm thinking about the blowing kisses to the balloons it is a weird way it's like to get something you want you must like kiss it so it's love it's a little like a room full of children blowing kisses at the screen because love conquers all we have barely talked about this fish we have barely talked about ruffy the fish ruffy maybe my favorite character in the movie the fish is great maybe maybe maybe the only person in there the only the only

sentient entity in the movie that's like get me the fuck out of here yeah ruffy knew what movie ruffy was in ruffy is a complex character this is the first time I'm learning his name is ruffy that was a joke in the beginning I just keep writing fish ruffy is is kind of been through it kind of been through the ringer kind of like Kerry Elway's is bubble the bubble guy the yeah the bubble guy is like squawking bird who is gassy lactose intolerant and has cataracts ruffy also seems like an elder state again another another end of life story for the parrot for the parrot that is like I'm transitioning into death and

they tell the parent just if you tried a little harder you wouldn't have anything like if you told somebody with cataracts just pretend that you can see and you can the fish the fish is with them for the whole adventure right and is like pissed off and then Jamie Presley Stone Cold French is the fish and everybody gets horny and Christopher Lloyd is like I'm looking at you fish you kissing my lady daughter question mark what is there God well June what did you think is I thought they were husband and wife but now that you say that's weird but if you say daughter I thought that they were just musical

partners they share the same last name oh you know they oh I'm sorry did you not know that they are Lola and Laro sombrero that's their character names representation matters I can I say that I like the sexual tension throughout the film that's by the way six months from now that is a pull quote on the box of this movie I thought Wendy just go back to Wendy for a second I thought that Wendy had like kind of in a dumb personality like a dominatrix personality over the vacuum cleaner over Jay Edgar yeah well Jay Edgar as we know is the stone-cold perv and windy when everyone knows it's windy everybody knows it's

windy really young crowd young crowd no no don't humor me let the youngsters find it for themselves would you be surprised yes yes and I know that you often hate this when I ask you to guess but I want to ask you to guess and if audience if you know don't yell it out because I want to really get the real reaction how much it you think Detroit's not gonna yell if they can I know just first fucking maniac yeah how they're going to Marvin's milky milkshake manner soon how much do you think this movie cost okay just and no no no no I just said no no you you all just you don't understand Detroit about shut the

fuck up give them a moment give them a moment to just I don't think it could have been 20 million it could be I'm gonna say it could be when you said Holland that made me think like oh wait a minute here Holland here oh Holland here here yeah oh Holland here in Michigan there's a Holland Michigan the other side of the state nope oh wow cuz Jason I were talking about it backstage we were like yeah I was like I'm trying to imagine someone coming to me with a movie offer and being like and I was like maybe some of those big like fields were in any sense and I was like maybe they

did like two days in Holland but to also get the whole and in my mind I was in my mind I was like if they told me I could go to Holland maybe I'd be in this movie that's what I was thinking like maybe they got Chloris Leachman by promising you know first-class ticket to Holland Holland Michigan okay all right it can't be 20 million I'm gonna say I'm gonna say 7 million Jason I still think that's high that is high but only because I feel like we're being led down the garden path I'm gonna say 40 million dollars and the answer is 60 million dollars 60 million dollars give us health care 60 million dollars and it

is technically an independent film no it was financed by this man wait a second hold on hold on if I break this chair I'll pay for it this man Matthew Diamond no that's just the director the person behind it the producer Ken Vissleman the creator okay I want to say something about Ken Vissleman because I saw in the very beginning that it said a Ken Vissleman picture Ken Vissleman film and the font looked like the Disney font did you notice I did notice that a little bit I was like who's this guy so he has made his money because he brought these other shows here to the States but I want to

read this one little thing here about this when I'm so stunned I don't know if I can move on well who I mean when I said 40 I was like Jason look at me making the best joke of the night I was like that's good that's good I'm I'm stunned and I'm sad I will say all that money all that I think each one of those actors got a million dollars each got a million dollars in my mind that's where the money went if each one of those actors got a million dollars each come for one day I would have done it I would have done it in a heart the game of Thrones pilot cost 20 million dollars this is to game of Thrones think about

that for a second no I don't read three I said 40 it was 60 sorry I know how it works hey Detroit chill out take it easy I'm really shocked now I will tell you some other little details about it because you know obviously Ken believes that the movie failed only because people didn't know is in theaters poor marketing but part of that marketing was because he had 30 million dollars in marketing funds ready to help roll out the movie but that account froze just weeks before the scheduled release why so wait so 30 million on top of 60 million I think all he was all in 60 million there's a lot of fuzzy numbers

here so there's 30 million in 20 30 okay potentially but 60 was 60 was allocated for production and P&A for this move yes that's ludicrous and bridges and I will tell you one other thing about it which is really interesting Christopher Lloyd was up and considered for the part of the bubble man but they said you know what no you are the sombrero man like he lost a part was brought in they thought better of it now my assumption is well did they did they did they try him out in that maybe he couldn't do the song considered he was considered I don't there's not much info on this movie but I'm sorry if they made any actor

audition but also in this I agree to be put in jail and also Christopher Lloyd should be grateful because with all due respect I think Kerry Elwes is in in the bubble truck with his parrot like I'd rather be Christian Lloyd playing the bongos in the background yeah and I will say this did a great job Christopher Lloyd I did yeah yeah I did I think everyone did a great job you can't go wrong with Christopher Lloyd I will say this give him that million dollars oh yeah well would you take a million dollars I'm not kidding they say hey we're doing oogie loves how many where are they now for four four yeah they're

doing oogie loves for we heard the podcast we get it you guys talked about oogie loves we want you to be in oogie loves it's one million dollars each you have to sing of course yeah no one would see it of course oh he's in too he's the front row is in what the front row is also gonna be up everyone would take a million dollars no one's watching it course I would do I would say no no so here's the deal offer me that million dollars now I'll say this I think that the reason again we're gonna go talk to the audience right now imagine if you were in imagine I mean game what truthfully think about it the distance

between where we are now and us being in a Holland Michigan shooting oogie loves for well Jason you know that I was in meow TV television for cats by cats Paul not only do I know that you were in meow TV television for cats by cats for cats my group also tried to get that job and didn't get it we we did not get the job to make a TV show for cats that are left at home alone my comedy group blew the pitch for cat TV meow TV meow TV what I think what I love about this movie that's so long ago oh so long ago it's like my first gig but what I was gonna say what I love about this movie is it gives children this amazing

aspirational thing like oh my gosh you get to go to an airplane hangar you get to go to a parking lot wow like all the best places where kids want to go yeah what you dream about that's that's kind of how I that's again this gets back to my obsession with they are they are a band why not put them in musical situations performance situations they were called to perform with Tony Braxton that's the only time and that's why when we played it I was like oh right why wasn't why weren't all of the set all of the quests for each balloon why weren't they all related to what the oogie loves obviously our masters at

which is their musicianship there they are there they're instruments they are they are musical wonderkins where did he go Paul left Paul was so upset that we didn't like the movie honestly he was like you know what I would tell you Jason that he was like taking a position of being a contrarian for the sake of the show for the sake of Detroit to make it an interesting conversation but I did see him watch this movie I loved it and I know that and I know that Detroit and I know that Detroit was really whining about this movie and while I understand it I also want to say toughen up Detroit stop being a bunch of

whiny brat all right I'm here in the audience I'm gonna talk to people I'm gonna give people some prizes for costumes okay great I have a person in a rad shirt that kind of counts someone's volunteered you to ask a question which means I don't have high hopes for it but your name and then say your name so if my name would be Paul oogie love so you say your name with the oogie love last name I'm Dave oogie love great Dave what's your question I just want to know if you knew that real steel was filmed here real steel the Hugh Jackman movie yeah was that an option no what is the only option wait what's his name what's

your name Dave Dave Dave you we watched oogie love you watched oogie loves we made you watch it nothing else was considered oogie loves and if we come back to Detroit oogie loves to put your phone down put your phone down what I love is that people think that we didn't know there are other choices here's the guarantee here's my promise to you I hated this movie I hated every goddamn second I suffered through this movie if we come back to this town we're gonna watch every goddamn sequel of these movies just because you wind about it you're supposed to be strong Detroit bring it and here's the thing here's the

thing we'll say we're gonna do real steel and then you'll come here and go surprise it's oogie loves to motherfuckers all right so we have somebody who worked on the movie wait I was brought under false pretentions you know someone did you not tell me you have someone who worked on the movie did you trick me he's an audio engineer and they have someone who worked as an audio engineer on this movie okay well this is good for ADR let's see if your story is gonna be worth it all right you have first-hand all right well now he's here you don't have to hype man I'm okay so all right so all right so my name is Tom

oogie love yeah I can just tell you a few things all the actors fucking hated working on wow well except for one carry always wow you know I showed up see that for his shoots apparently with the false teeth that he's wearing it and you guys didn't really talk about his character well we do live but this is a perfect moment great and by the way we're doing the best we can go to this movie let's talk about showed up with false teeth that he had bought and apparently they cost 20 grand wow and I want to ask you guys he also asked the production to pay for him for those teeth did they which to which they were

like no we can't do now is it his voice you know that is a hundred percent his voice wow okay my buddy while you guys were right good you see but it's just ADR it's just all ADR is that why it feels so well the reason it's all ADR is because the cost the yeah whatever they are the oogie love all the all the servos inside are gonna be that's what I thought so they're wow the audio making it unusable well I understand why they're ADR but why are the human actors I wonder if they didn't record sound on the day they said it was so loud that it ruined because you have four robots running so if they must have done no they captured

no sound wow they captured it but it was unusable yeah because imagine four robots going like every movement imagine we actually seen scenes before the audio mix was done and you it's it's yeah it's wow anything deleted or no you saw the final cut not sure about that but we live in a world where there are robots and these are they by the way I'm kind of blown away that these are robots because they don't look like there's robotic things because their mouth isn't working that way so you're saying there's nobody in those suits no there's definitely people

in them thank God we have somebody in a letter Kenny Jersey right here further hi what do you got is this movie Nazi propaganda yes because at the beginning of the movie Zuzi and Toofy get out of bed and Nazi salute then march and like the only language that Zuzi speaks to the whole movie is German wow wait really what do you mean German well she says Donka Shane and Gazoon tight and that's like the only thing she says speak to the animals you know that's interesting I remember watching we used to watch a lot of Thomas the train and it did feel like very communist in

nature because Thomas wants to be useful you know he just wants to doesn't want to have individual talents or yeah he just want to be a useful engine and I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure Gooby is reading my comfort one point listen this movie it is honestly it's very clear this is a dangerous film okay your name and your question I am woozy not an oogie love a bed bug oh right you have a bed bug that she has the original costume wow character picture on her shirt what and I never saw this movie out of spite because I am a bed bug we were on PBS our live show open for Barney wait you were on it yes I was

woozy wait you really were oh my god woozy in the house woozy in the house what what a standing ovation holy shit holy shit royalty is among us wow back then we were woozy toofy and Gooby it was still J. Edgar it was still roughy the fish it was snoozy the pillow I don't know any of these names in this TV show we did not have humans so you are the only character that they

changed the name of I feel good about that no you should well because you were irreplaceable you were irreplaceable thank you how long how long were you woozy by the way look behind you I was woozy for five years five years and time wow did they ask anybody from bed bugs to be a part of this horrific oogie love situation no they did not wow now imagine would you have wanted what was the what yes I was that was my dear care this abomination of oogie loves is terrible I don't know what these Popeye arms are that these characters have that you so you you're disagreeing with their Popeye arms everything else

everything else checks out so did the whole cast of bed bugs were they really upset about oh yeah oh yeah we were promised to the world then mr. tell a tell a man came along and he bought it from us and said it was his and took it over and I'm glad it was the question that I have right now is simply when that gentleman asked me earlier why didn't you do real steel I'll say this is Hugh Jackman in the house no this is why we did wow I honestly Paul I am I'm chilled to the bone for everybody here right who was like I don't like this movie we got a turd white wine wine wine can you imagine you didn't know a

fucking star was in your midst would that have happened if we did any of your other movies no truly in the house obviously we had opinions about this but Detroit you all love it you have a different opinion it is now time for second opinions my beers turned warm and I'm wondering why I turned on this flick at all J Edgar Hoover strokes Wendy window and I can't look away and even if I could it'll be okay two fees pants are falling down it reminds me I gotta go on Amazon and give it five stars amazing amazing alright that was amazing all right so these are five-star reviews from Amazon all right there are

69 total reviews 69 yeah 69 there are 68% of them are five-star reviews five to 68% now there's something interesting about this is that the Rotten Tomatoes score is 30 but the audience score is 62 so it's pretty high this one's written by Mia Casolle my granddaughter just loves this movie which we first saw on Netflix but I'm buying the DVD so we can have a disc and take it with us this gets her up and dancing right away it's refreshingly fun non-animated very different from the usual fare being served now just totally fun no fighting no pirates no princesses just pure fun I highly recommend this

movie my granddaughter is three five stars but update update my granddaughter fell off a ladder the ladder took the dare and won and Phyllis our ad new rights I took my three-year-old granddaughter to see this film two days in a row we were the only people in the theater both days those those four tickets to compromise 80% of their three and two-year-olds they're just seeing colors and shapes yeah it's hard to say that there are discerning audio yeah we can't base much I I will read one one-star review because it's worth it from MR sake from MR Psycam your kid will be dumber by watching this by

one star I just quickly want to read you a couple things about this movie the budget we talked about the big movies of this year the Avengers Dark Knight Rises the Hunger Games this movie not ranked you know this is you know this movie had a lot of interesting things we talked to the audience who had a lot to say about it but I will say this that one of only two theatrical a released non-documentary films to be rated G by the MPAA the other one is called Adventures in Zambia so it's of that year only two G movies and this was one of them so that's a big one and then that's surprising to me just that's just generally surprising to me

yeah aren't more G rated movies very few live in a year films of the 2010s are rated G the previous three not counting docs are Ramona and Bezos seven days in utopia and Alvin and the chipmunks shipwrecked the next one's after it would be Mermaid's Tale Bernie the Dolphin Noel and Bernie the Dolphin too so this movie was nominated for razzies but lost to Twilight Saga breaking down part two which we've covered yes we have covered that and that is truly everything that we can say about Oogie Loves in the big balloon adventure but and you guys thought we couldn't make a good show out of it but I will show you the final

thing which is this on IMDb this movie has a very weird rating April found this you'll check this out this is the rating that was on IMDb okay for parents guide sex and nudity severe violence and gore severe profanity severe drugs alcohol smoking severe frightening intense scenes severe so that is how it's rated so parents will stay away from this movie that's got to be some sort of trolling going on or somebody I think it's parents trying to help other parents yeah I look at things like that all the time I wouldn't put it on because the because is it because of the vacuum cleaner is not wearing any pants like

what is this but people thank you so much we're coming out here Detroit thank you a big thank you to Beth Thomas our stage manager yes and now we will pose the picture yes Paul if you don't mind me interrupting yeah I would not recommend this movie I just want you to know I would not I know you're glossing over it because you would yes and you tacitly want everybody to believe we are recommending it and I want to say out loud I do not recommend this movie Jin do you recommend sometimes we say oh if you're stoned or if you're you know on an airplane or if thank God I didn't watch this are in jail like there's

certain reasons why you could watch certain if you're in a pet hospital waiting room and have to watch this there's no reason you should ever lay your eyes upon this ever firmly disagree it's a great film if you want to watch this watch bed bugs instead you guys were an amazing crowd we love it thank you for waiting thank you for coming we could not do this show without you we'll be right we'll be back we'll be back to 2023 okay love to three and four a three night stay at the film or each shit that's it for today's episode of how did this get made remember we are in San Francisco on December 3rd get your

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