How Did This Get Made? - The Star Wars Holiday Special w/ Matt Gourley & Eden Sher (HDTGM Matinee)

Episode Date: December 16, 2025

Celebrate Life Day with Paul, Jason, and special guests Matt Gourley (Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend) and Eden Sher (The Middle) as they discuss the infamous 1978 CBS TV film The Star Wars Holiday Special. They talk about Chewbacca being a bad father, the Diahann Carroll virtual reality porn, Harvey Korman being truly committed in all of his “comedic bits,” and so much more. Happy Life Day from HDTGM! (Ep. #126 Originally Released 12/25/2015) • Our holiday virtual livestream is on Dec 10th! Get tix at veeps.events/hdtgm• Go to hdtgm.com for tour dates, merch, FAQs, and more• Have a Last Looks correction or omission? Call 619-PAULASK to leave us a voicemail!• Submit your Last Looks theme song to us here• Join the HDTGM conversation on Discord: discord.gg/hdtgm• Buy merch at howdidthisgetmade.dashery.com/• Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of Trauma• Shop our new hat collection at podswag.com• Paul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheer• Paul’s YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheer• Follow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer• Subscribe to Enter The Dark Web w/ Paul & Rob Huebel: youtube.com/@enterthedarkweb• Listen to Unspooled with Paul & Amy Nicholson: unspooledpodcast.com• Listen to The Deep Dive with June & Jessica St. Clair: thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcast• Instagram: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & @junediane• Twitter: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & msjunediane  • Jason is not on social media• Episode transcripts available at how-did-this-get-made.simplecast.com/episodesGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, a group of writers were tasked with writing a holiday special about Star Wars, but none of them ever saw Star Wars. We saw Star Wars a holiday special, so you know what that means? Now it's time, how to this campaign? We're going to have a good time, celebrate some failure, not just be a hater, because you know you wonder, how did this campaign? Let's want to win the mediocrity of subpar art. Perhaps we'll find the answer to the question, how did this get made? Hello, people of Earth, and welcome to How Did This Get Made, our holiday edition. Normally, we do movies on the podcast.

We are doing something different today. We are focusing on a 1978 CBS television special that was made around Christmas time, focusing on Star Wars. If you have not seen it, I urge you right now to stop what you're doing and check it out. But now that you have all this warning in front of you, I now would like to introduce my co-host, live from New York, Jason Manzukas. Hey-oh. In New York right now.

In New York City celebrating Life Day. Yes, so excited. As the listeners of the show know, June does not celebrate Life Day and is very anti-Life Day, so she is not here. But we have some amazing guests joining us. Well, does that mean that June is part of the Empire? I'm just saying that June, you know, was brought up imperial and doesn't really celebrate kind of wookie.

Does she celebrate the war on Hollett on Life Day? I don't want to talk about what she does. Yes, I mean, like, she believes that obviously that, you know, you know, I don't want to say, look, there's a lot of things going on with June and her beliefs, and I don't, we keep them very separate. So you just heard Matt Goreley, who was joining us. And I would say the maker of so many great podcasts, but also a true Star Wars fan. From way back, I had to have seen this on TV. I have vague recollections of it.

I would have been five when this was on. So there's no way I missed it. But then I was given a bootleg copy of this in the early 90s, which I treasured. And it had all the commercials intact. So this thing has been with me my whole life. And you know her from the middle. Please welcome. Eden Share.

Now, you're a newer Star Trek. Oh, sorry, Star Wars. convert, right? Yes, I only, I just saw the originals like a year and a half. I didn't even, I don't even remember, like, actually seeing the second one. I feel like I watched it, but didn't, like, actually watch it. But, yeah, I just saw them like year and a half, two years ago. But then I saw the new one.

Yeah, well, I love the new one. There's so much to talk about, but this special, this is crazy because I got, like, a DVD of this when I was a kid, and I was like, whoa, this is crazy and weird, but I never watched the entire thing. at all. It's impossible. It's impossible to sit through it all in one day. Did people, you got it, like people gave it as gifts for, like it as a thing?

It was, well, here's like the little bit of the backstory, and it's all kind of a little bit documented. I'm going to kind of give you my version of it. This was made, George Lucas says he had no involvement in it, but it has come out that he has had involvement in it. He had watched the dailies every day, and he had asked for this to be, about wookies on the planet of Kashik because he wanted to get into this

in the Star Wars world. So he was a little hands-on. And then he also gave it to these writers, Pat Proft, who wrote Airplane and Naked Gun and, of course, oh, Bruce Valanche, who TV is Bruce Valanche. Classic Valanche. There's so many classic Valanche bits in this.

And none of them seem to have watched Star Wars at this point that this was being made. So you have writers who are not versed in the Star Wars universe writing a special for Star Wars. And but there are a lot of interesting things we'll get into that kind of connect to the Star Wars canon. But yes, this is a failed thing. And George Lucas has gone around and said, if he had a sledgehammer in the time, he would go around and destroy every single existing copy of this.

I'm pretty sure he has both of those now. But I think the internet has saved the Star Wars Holiday Special because you can't get it anywhere. It's not on DVD. You can't download it. No one wants you to see this. And they shouldn't because it is, I mean, it's next level crazy. I mean, it really is on it.

It is garbage. It is garbage. It is beautiful. I did watch this when it came out. I remember it. Well, to me, this is like the thing that's so crazy about it is, it is, your main characters are who don't speak English and are not subtitled.

God, it's amazing. The entire thing is in Wookiee except for the people that come into the Wookiee's life who are all TV and like Broadway stars from like the 1950s. I mean, Art Carney, I mean, Arthur, Harvey Corman. Three times.

Three times, right. Yeah, it's insane. So let's talk about that because if they were household names, it was only because of Star Wars. Were they doing this to stay in the good graces of Lucas for the next parts of the trilogy? How did this happen? Or were they getting paid? Were they getting paid a ton? Like, how much money did CBS put into this?

I mean, I don't imagine it was a lot because when you look at it, it looks terrible. It looks awful. Yeah. Yeah. They didn't put it on the screen. Yeah, it's not there. And I feel like every character or every actor that was involved, like seems that they were there begrudgingly.

No one wanted to be here. For sure. This special is summed up by the initial showings of the three stars. So you get right in sequence, Luke, who's wearing strange amount of eyeliner. Yeah. You look at the little girl. I wrote down Mark Hamel little girl. And then it cuts directly to Harrison Ford, who does a really reluctant nod to camera. And those things, I think, sum up this holly.

holiday special completely. You know what you're in for. And it seems to me like this connection to Chewbacca's family. If we just want to even talk about like thematically, like, I don't think that like I don't know if Luke has the best relationship with Chubacca's family. But he does. It's like everybody

knows Mala, itchy and Lumpy. Yeah. And there are like, there's a certain point where they call Carrie Fisher and she's like, look, I don't want to tie up the line. Can you just put Chebacca on the phone? Which even get Carrie Fisher is like, I don't to talk to Lumpy and Mala.

Let's just get the main guy in. But like, his name is Chewbacca. Okay, that I get. Why? Why did he name his son, Itchy? And his father named Lumpy. I can answer this because I had the wookie storybook that went along with this. Oh, my God.

So itchy, Lumpy, and Mala are all nicknames. So they're really long, like, Mala Warrump is her real name. Okay. It's like, it almost gets like so falky. This was made retroactively after someone described it. It had to be to, yeah, justify it. It had to be. There is something I noticed this time through right in the beginning when it cuts to the first ad that I think also may answer some questions about where the American public was.

Oh, yeah, please. The first ad is for General Motors. And their slogan is, I wrote it down, transportation to serve people. People building transportation to serve people. That couldn't be more literal And there's nothing catchy about that And I think that these people making this Probably are dealing with that public

That would eat that up People building transportation to serve people That's just people building cars That doesn't mean your company's making anything good That's the one That's basically trying to explain like How did this car get here? Somebody made it

Don't worry, people built it But it also goes to that There was no car competition like foreign imports were just starting to happen because the original commercials are like every third commercial is a union commercial too. Well, yeah, because I remember, I think on the copy that I watch for this, the commercial is like a guy

like, I'm Ted Baker and I work, I make these cars and he just talks about his day of making fords. And he's like, he's like, I like the welding the most because it's a real art. Yeah. Okay, I actually want to know, though, how was the reception of it when it originally aired? Well, it only aired once.

So that should tell you. Anything Christmas, it seems like it will air a million times. I mean, Lucas did buy every copy of it, so no one can air it again. Wait, is that true, true, or is that? That is true, true. Lucas did buy every single copy. So, yeah, he could. So, yeah, the master copies.

So it can never be broadcast. I want to just show, like, the lackluster performance right off the top. This is Han and Chewy as they are kind of flying into Life Day. And you can just tell it was like one take only. I'm turning back. I know your family's waiting. I know it's an important day. All right, we'll give it a try.

Central coordinates. You won't jump off. I'll get you back there in time, pal. Trust me. So that's a little bit of a Han. I'm going to light speed. The sound effects are actually louder than the actual dialogue. They're just going through the motions.

And I just love, though, it just, it grounds this world in a way that I don't want it grounded. Like, it's like, why, like, I don't think of Chewbacca having a family, nor do I want Chewbacca to have a family, oddly? Right, yeah. Because it also implies that Hans Solo is keeping him away for his family year after year, and he only gets to go home once a year. That's what I was thinking. I was like, is life day? Is that the one time, is it the one time he goes home? This also brought up a question for me in the new Star Wars movie.

I won't spoil anything, but it does harken back to something to this that Chewbacca can see his family. Well, Chewbacca is a bad dad. I mean, that's what I'm learning right away. And he doesn't seem to love him. He's a deadbeat dad. He's a total deadbeat dad off fighting in the rebellion while his family is home getting terrorized by stormtroopers and imperial guards. But he's clearly sending a lot of money home because they have a nice house. I would live in that house.

That's a very nice house. But, I mean, but I will even take it one step back. He's barely in the, I want to say the Republic. I'm sorry, the rebellion. The rebellion. He's barely in the rebellion because he's just a smuggler. I mean, he gets caught up in the rebellion. Yeah, right.

Good point. Yeah, so before this, there, like, Chewbacchus is hanging out with his buddy just shooting around the galaxy with a gun. Just like, he's a bad dude, a bad dad. Like, he only recently has really stepped it up. And also, I mean, the other thing too which is like really insulting I guess but I guess like they credit R2D2 and C3Pio as R2D2 and C3Pio they do not like call them by their actor names even though there are people inside those suits but yet Darth Vader is James Earl Jones yeah and Anthony Daniels did the voice yeah what do you mean they credit and that and that terrible opening credits like with Hans you know like a with R2D2 and C3PO and then when Darth Vader came on it was was Jamesville Jones. So interesting, even though James Earl Jones is technically not in the special,

he was only in reused footage from the Star Wars movies. There's so much to talk about here. They're in a nice mid-century modern house. With felt, well, there's a green, what is the floor is just felt? Yeah, well, you know, they're bookies, so they have soft feet already, and they're just a creature. Yeah, they're walking carpets. They don't really need much in the terms of carpets.

How high up are they and how do they actually get down? Because a stormtrooper was killed by falling off. Oh, huge. They straight up murder someone. They murder somebody in the worst fight of all time. Harrison Ford, like his choreographing of this fight is like, dodge the left, dodge to the right. And the guy just literally just jumps over a ledge.

Hansolo not giving a shit. Like, he's like, yeah, I'm here. Then they walk in. and it's like, hey, that guy's not going to give us any trouble anymore. Ha ha, ha, because we killed him. It was a way for them to do a family-friendly kill because it was just a fake-out. It's not his fault. He fell off the balcony.

Yeah, Hansel just went a little bit to the left and a little bit to the right. He just zig-and-zagged him. This whole special is really basically people watch or whookies watching TV. No shit. Yes, the whole thing. It almost seemed like every, also, like, they was just broken up into all these, like, segments. They have so many devices to watch TV on. And, like, it's like every one of those was just kind of killing time.

Like, yeah. This is the whole special. What are you stalling? Yeah, they really are just, they're just killing time for the next thing to happen. And they have more, like, they have iPods. They have, like, TVs, they have iPads. There's not one device. They have a virtual reality porno?

Oh, wait. I mean, before we even get into it, because I have so much to say about that. Because I could just talk about that alone. Maybe we should just get to it. Yeah. Because to me, that is the reason. that a podcast like this should exist. And it wasn't like I was saying,

how did this get made for this whole thing? I understood why the special got made. But that five minutes, how did that happen? It is the single most baffling moment of television history that I have ever seen. It's absolute insanity. According to the producer and director, Mitzie Welch, the scene with Diane Carroll was intended to be softcore porno

that would pass the censors. It's a joke, right? Like, they knew what they were doing. I think they had to because it's, like, let's take a listen to Diane Carroll, just so if you've not seen the special, and I really would recommend that you watch like 15 hours of Thomas the Tank instead of this because it would be easier to get through. But take a listen to this.

This is how Diane Carroll sounds, and you'll just a couple of seconds to get the idea. I know you're searching for me. Searching, searching. I am here. My voice is for you alone. I am found in your eyes only. I exist for you.

I am in your mind as you create me. Oh, yes. I can feel my creation. I'm getting your message. Are you getting mine? So basically Lumpy, the grandfather, is in a virtual reality headset. By the way, this show. show is very, uh, I mean, it's, it's kind of like the Jules Verne of, uh, of, uh, of a special.

Except that headset is made out of a, like a salon hairdriar. Yes. So he, and he's, he's, he's, he's, by the way, he's watching this porno in the middle of the living. And he's gumbing himself. Like, his, his mouth is moving so uncomfortably. I have nothing. I, I, I, I did not understand what was happening. I thought, I was watching, I watched half of it, like, before I went to sleep and then half of it in the morning, and I was pretty sure that I, that was like part of my dream going into it. How do you know what's real and what's not? It's so bizarre because, I mean, she's singing and performing from, I, not that it's

unusual, but I also thought it was odd that Lumpy, the old grandfather, likes humanoids. Like he is, you know, yeah, plenty weird. Yeah, plenty. I thought that with the cooking show also, I was like, why, I don't know what I was really hung up on this. Why are these wukies watching a cooking show? Why isn't there a wookie? Why is there a human? Well, that's the thing about like all Star Wars to me that kind of gets me. It's like, here's a planet full of wookie. So if you think of Earth as the like the comparison, like even within our earth, there are so many different subcultures. Here, they're just like, they're just

shipping it out to like humanoid. They're like, you have a planet. And there's like a line in here we're like, Han Sulla's like, ah, there's some traffic. We're going to land on the north side of the planet. Yeah. That would be like me going like, oh, yeah, I got to get home to California. I'll land in China. We'll figure it out. Like, there's no sense there that that would make it simpler to get home.

The simple answers, they're like, well, we already know we really want to do 30 minutes of Wolkees just talk to each other with no subtitles. We should put some humans in there for something. No subtitles. And really the first, I would say 10 minutes doesn't even have 30 minutes. At least. At least. Yeah.

Doesn't even have a human to tell you what's going on. It's just a... No, I started to lose my mind. I was like, what, what's going on? What are we doing here? Is this what we're doing? Is this the whole thing? I mean, we're talking honestly about one of the most interesting specials of all time

because not only is it a special where they don't speak English, it's a special where they got softcore porn in. But then it's also like trying to get in, like, like a whole idea of like Nazism. I feel like the Nazi thing is big in this. Yeah, no kidding. It's bigger than in the films. Way bigger.

It scared me. It actually scared me when they like, when they started a, oh my God, when he tore apart the stuffed animal? Yeah. It actually frightened me. But there's something so dismayed. That's the part I remember from when I was a kid watching it was when they trash Itchy's room.

I was like, I remember very powerfully being super upset and scared by that. Well, it was even scary for me to watch it now because it's like, why is this stormtrooper going into this kid's room to basically just break shit? Like, just destroying this kid's room. I definitely thought that there was going to be. I thought there was like a buildup to the stuffed animal. Like, I thought he was going to find something in it. Yeah. And he didn't.

He just broke it for the hell of it. I mean, it's more unsettling to me, though, is that you have Nazis, but then you have the 70s aesthetic. And so there's like an Imperial Guard Nazi with a whisked broom mustache that is so. off-putting when he tears up Lumpy's room. Oh, God. Well, it's so weird because it's like they're trying to make so many statements and none of them work. Because the other thing is, too, like, the whole premise is,

like, they're waiting for Chubaca to get back, and, like, the imperial forces are like, where's Chubaka? But it's not like he's hiding something. But they act as if they're hiding this seven-foot-tall giant wookie. Like, why would they need to break stuff in the... It's like, he's very... parent when he's around. And they also, when he does finally get back to them, they got to keep Chewbacca far away

from them because his costume's so much better than their costumes that they cannot put them in the same shot. Like, one looks like you got at a costume shop, but one's like a Hollywood costume. I found the Itchy, the little boy, costume to be very unsettling. Isn't Itchy the grandfather and Lumpy's the kid? I have that wrong. I know Lumpy was the kid, but I don't know. Yeah, Itchy.

Itchy's the old man, right? Yeah. Thank God. Got it. I also, I agree and disagree about Lumpy being unsettling the costume. I loved him so much, so much. He somehow manages to look like Gary Coleman in some way. I just want to know what was going on that little kid's mind, too, because, like, that kid, there's a child.

It was a woman in there. Oh, it's a woman? And a man plays Mala. Weird? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I did not know that. So is Chubbacca, is Chubbacca gay?

That's a feat. Female Wokey played by a male human. Got it. Got it. I also thought... That would be an amazing reveal. I would love a gay Chewbacca. No spoilers for Force Awakens, but maybe you'll get it.

Like this whole time, he's just hoping for something with Han. That's why he stays away from his wife for so long. He's like, I can't go back there. I'm not myself. I need to be out here. His literal beard. I wrote down this. Of one of the many things that they watched, they watched Cirque de Soleil, or a version of Cirque de Soleil, and I wrote down,

bad Cirque de Soleil is good. Good Cirque de Soleil is great. Medium Cirque de Soleil is unwatchable, and that's what this is. It's not quite Cirque de Soleil, and it's so boring to watch. And who is this appealing to? Bruce Valanche. I wonder, like, okay, so I just want to make sure. This came out.

This was only after the first one. Yes, 1978 it came out. Okay. So they had, because when I watched that search, so I wasn't quite like, I'm not super familiar with All the Star Wars, so I was like, I know this chess board thing. I've seen it. That's what they do. They have things on it, like games, whatever. Is this, is the Circutus Olaid thing? Is that something that happens? Like an app? Like another app? You thought it was in the movie or something. Yes, I was like, was this, is this just something that they weren't quite sure was going to be part of the universe and they were testing something out? Oh, my God. Like the other things that they could do on the Millennium Falcon. guys, it's going to take us a little time in our warp speed to get there.

So let's just, sorry, hyper. Let's cue up the moment chance. Let's go. Oh, my gosh. It's so, it's so weird. Everything about it, we can get into Art Carney. Art Carney, who is, oh, my God. Is he the creepy white guy?

He is the creep, well, he's like the traitor, the traitor, yeah, the traitor Joe, who was supposed to be Lando Calrizian. What? Apparently, Lucas came up with the idea for Lando as being this traitor. who had an outpost on a wookie planet. And so this was, like we introduced Boba Fett later on, supposed to be the introduction of Lando Calrissian. Oh.

Wow, I didn't know that. And was this also then? Was it the introduction of Boba Fett? Yes. Because he wasn't in the first one. He was not in the first one, yeah. And this was followed up by this, if you collected the action figures, you could send in proofs of purchase and get a Boba Fet.

Before he came out in the movie, and then, of course, the big scandal where he, His rocket fired and apparently choked a child, so they recalled it, and you can't get the rocket firing Boba Fett. I didn't know that he choked a kid. Well, that was the room. I think it was actually the Cylon toy that did it, but because of that, they recalled, or I think never produced the actual firing one, and I remember getting it, or this kid in kindergarten

got it first, and he's like, it doesn't launch like they said. And I went, no, that's a lie. Give it to me. And I had to, like, fully inspecting it, like, you're missing the button or something. It was gone. Well, I also like that Boba Fed, the action figure, can kill. Like, that's a great assassin. If you're, even your toy can kill a kid.

Yeah, yeah. That's the one to be reckoned with. Sleeper cell. Okay, well, that seems weird to me, though, to introduce, like, then this special was, like, weirdly, really important. Yeah. It could have been great. It should have been great. Somebody involved with Star Wars should have been involved in it, I guess.

I think they gave them, like, a lot of table scraps. Like, yeah, there'll be a Boba Fed. this Lando guy and there's... Now I'm just imagining if they went to Cloud City and it was Art Carney that greeted them when they landed the ship. Oh, my God. Get out of here, you old pirate.

Art Carney, I feel like both Art Carney and B. Arthur, I felt so bad for them because all of the Star Wars jargon and names felt so unnatural coming out of their mouths. Yeah. Like the scene where B. Arthur is the canteen a bartender and goes around begging every customer to leave. Oh, my God.

Why wouldn't they leave also? Yeah. And yet I feel like Harvey Corman. She memorized all this nonsense. And I feel that Harvey Corman, on the other hand, fully committed to it and just went 100% in. Basically, Harvey Corman's doing performance art. Because I would even argue that Harvey Corman's not even, like,

First of all, that canteen a scene is, like, is part cabaret. It's all cabaret, all cabaret, which was so conflicting for me as a child going, I know this is Star Wars, and I'm drawn to it, but I can't stand this because I hated musical numbers as a kid. Well, I mean, again, like, I'm just, you kind of see all the influences. It's all bad. But Harvey Corman comes in as this, like, lovelorn guy who drinks out of a thing in his head. Yeah, he still has a mouth. He still has a mouth.

Still fully humanoid, but he just pours drinks in his head. And he comes in as this, like, love-lorn guy who wants to, like, be with B. Arthur. And again, I'm thinking, for what child is this, like, this sad, like, romantic, like, this drunk coming and going to the bartender? Like, I love you. I love you. Let's be together. So sad. I think because the writers were all-seasoned variety show writers.

So they went, let's plug in the old guy at the bar sketch in here and just get it done. We've got to kill two hours. To me, Harvey Corn here. It feels. it feels everything it feels like an old-fashioned it doesn't feel at all modern or current it feels old-fashioned like an old variety show in that way and that's that those are all the games they're playing but it right with all the appropriate actors but it wasn't funny no it had no joy to it it was like it was almost melancholy the whole special is upsettingly sad it's like all right

a family's being tortured this woman is being like her Like, everybody who owns a store is being, like, shut down by these Nazis. And, like, you know, like, and no one's, there's no joy. And even in the end, when they finally get to Life Day, it seems like a somber holiday as, oh, as well. They take the canteena theme, which is the happiest music in Star Wars, maybe next to that EWalk song. Yeah. Turn it into some kind of minor key cabaret dirge. And it's incredible.

And then they're just, you know, the, the most Isley cantina, which is very, like, weirdly described, why they're even watching it. And they're like, no, you'll watch a live feed from another planet. So, all right. So are we watching, like, a webcam inside Most Isley canteena that's being broadcast on, like, satellite television? Like, I don't even understand how we're getting there. And, but again, we got to sit.

And why would we? Yeah. Why would you? Like, they say that, like, Most Isley is, like, the hive of scum and villainy. Like, it would be like, you would never. Like, candor and ebb. Yeah, you would never put a webcam there to broadcast across a, the universe.

Well, I guess because they were trying to somehow, like, get them in trouble because they, like, then they got shut down. But, and a lot of, the whole thing kind of doesn't have a point, obviously. But actually, what was the point of having that there? Why did we... No, kill in time. There were so many instances where I literally said out loud, take your time, holiday special, take your time.

It's a two-hour special that could probably have been really good at, like, a 30-minute special. A great 30 minutes. I had a question also. I really didn't understand. the cartoon part? Yeah. What,

like, was he, was this fiction? Or was it, what was he watching? I had the same problem, because Lumpy or, yeah,

Lumpy or, what, the kid is watching his dad in a cartoon. So that's weird, and he seems affected by it. Like, so I don't know if,

like, Chubacca has commissioned a buddy who's an animator to, like, show him his adventures. But, like, but he literally is freaked out at a certain boy, oh, my dad's in trouble.

It's like, in some ways, this is like so David lynching in an absurdly brilliant way. Who, by the way, was the original choice for Return of the Jedi director. Oh, really? Yes.

He turned it down. That would have been great. I know. And the original return. And then made Dune. Well, you know, Return of the Jedi was supposed to be on a whole planet full of rookies,

but then they simplified it and made it Ewox. But I think for maybe marketing purposes, I'm sure somebody J.W. Rensler can get in here and describe that to why that happened. But this was the original conception, like, oh, my gosh, it's so, it's so bizarre because that makes no sense at all while he's watching his dad. And if they did want to watch his dad, I could get them going like, oh, that's why they're delayed. Maybe that's why they're delayed.

But we see in the very beginning that they're not delayed because they're just kind of just fighting. They're just randomly just fighting. Do you think that was the cartoon made as a way of, like, championing these great figures of, of the rebellion? Oh, I think you guys are giving it too much thought. Like, I don't think that thought was put in there. I think it was seriously, we have this cartoon to market this action figure, find a way to fit in, and just know that I'm not going to check up on this, so do it however you want.

My name's George Lucas. You know, we did actually, our guy, Blake Harris, is writing a very good oral history. You can check it out on Slash Film. If you're bored here on Christmas, and you're listening to this on Christmas, Head on over to Slash film and read the oral history of this because actually the director of this special was the guy who directed the Elvis comeback special. Oh, my God. Yeah, so he has like some real chops, but here none of them are on display at all. But they made a drama, a drama holiday special for children.

This really was intended. A Star Wars Holocaust special. Imagine if Anne Frank was with Wookie. and you would get the life day special. Can we talk about Princess Leia for a second? Oh my gosh, yes. When they call her on the screen and she gets up from her desk, but she's no doubt sitting behind

because she doesn't want to stand up just physically. She gets and walks towards the camera, has to sort of lean on the desk a little bit to make it the full way. She does that thing that actors do when they don't know their lines and they take a very, like, meaningful breath. And she would pause between each of her lines why she would think of her line. And then her, I rewound it.

Did you guys catch this? Her line, I think, is I don't want to tie up the channels. But she says, I don't want to tie her up the channels. Like that, by the way, I want to even talk about how they even get her on the view screen. They get her on the view screen. And the view screen is like X's and O's, like literally like like like just like X, X, O, oh, oh, X, X. Okay, we got the transmission. Like they didn't even try to do anything like weird alien language.

just X's and O's. This is not even a first draft. This is like a draft where people pulled pages out of a garbage can. It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that one. Oh, this is a show that features a full-length cooking segment about how to make Bantha. Yes. That is step by step an actual cooking program. And I was going to say with that cooking program,

there's no real joke in this thing besides. the fact that the guy has multiple arms. And if you took that away, it's just a cooking segment that Harvey Corbyn is really committing. Just a very boring, boring cooking segment. But it's, man, I wasn't super bored. I was mostly confused, but I was compelled because it was like, spin, spin, spin, spin, spin, spin, spin, spin, spin, wood, spin, spin. And then other hands came in. Wait, let's even play a little bit of Harvey Corman saying spin, whip, whip, whip, whip.

So, and on the count of wops, whip, whip, whip, whip, whip, whip, whip. Whipster, stir, whipster, whip, whip, whip, stir. Come on faster all together now, cooking can spot. Stir, whip, whip, whip, stir, stir, whip, whip, whip, whips stir, stir, whip, whip, whips stir, having fun, having fun, all right? Coming along, I see now, step three. That is for kids. Enjoy a kid.

He has in his voice the fear of a man who knows this is not funny and just will not stop for fear of hearing the silence. I feel like he went home every night and wept. He has to say having fun, having fun, just to tell you that they're having fun. Well, like, isn't it known, I remember this from the Howard Stern interview with Carol Burnett, like that Harvey Corman was kind of like a jerky diva at certain points. And, like, he left the Carol Burnett show and was like, oh, he's an asshole to people. He was the Chevy Chase of Carol Burnett show. Exactly.

So, like, I feel like this was his chance to be like, you know what? I got asked to do the Star Wars holiday special. I don't need you, Carol Burnett, right? I'm going to go off and do my own thing, and then left to his own devices. This is what Harvey Corman did. And I'm sure they gave him a 100% creative license to do whatever. Because he does seem into it. He is, out of everyone, is not phoning it in at all.

I think he understands that Star Wars is now a phenomenon where maybe some of those other people don't. What did they tell Diane Carroll? Like, we're going to have you sensually talk to the camera right now. I want to know what they told her more than I want to know. who killed Kennedy. How that went down that day on the set, I would pay no amount of money for me. Well, you know, here's an interesting thing, too,

just for those people out there wondering, this is canon. Star Wars holiday special. Like, if you exist, it exists in a world. Like, everything in the Star Wars universe, there are, like, things that are canon, things that are not. So a lot of the books have now been excised.

That's not canon. But this is in the world. So technically, if you were to build, something, you can reference that this all happened. I think Lucas is just not kicking it out of canon because he didn't ever want to admit it was in canon. The minute he kicks it out of canon, that will legitimize it.

Right, so by not mentioning it. Yeah, this is I mean, oh my gosh, there is, I just, I'm so curious why Lucas refused to I mean, that's a bold move and that's like a 70s move too big.

No, they'll speak in Wookie and that's that. America's got to get with the program. Like, that is not fun for anyone. Because we're really just watching a family waiting. It's like a Truman show with rookies. But the boring parts of Truman's show. No, it's waiting for Godot is what it is.

It is. It really is. It is. I also want to talk about Ark Carney's code. So he's in front of the imperial troopers. Oh, yeah. And his code language for, like, what Chubacca is. He's like, I hope you, I got that large furry package in for you, but it might be delayed.

Like, it's like, everyone knows what he's talking about. This trooper should be a little bit quicker on the update. And also I'm pretty sure he said something about, he said something by hand, made by hand, solo. Oh, right. That was the bad code. Yeah, like, yeah. You could say she made it by hand, solo. Like, yeah, like, so I guess he just runs like a little.

like shop? He's a traitor and family friend. This is, it takes a village. Now, they call it Kazooke. He says, I just thought I'd show you

some of the stupid stuff Wookiees purchased from me anyway. I guess some of the interesting things that Wookiee's purchase are miniature fish tanks. Sure. Like, it was so like,

and I guess that's a joke. Like, hey, look, it's a miniature fish tank that you can keep in your pocket. But do Wookies have pockets? Guys, do wookies have pockets? Like heresupial pouches? Yeah, like kangaroos, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I was actually thinking, what if... I've never seen them. I've never seen them pull anything out of their pockets. What if Chubacca's, like, bandalier is this full of miniature fish tanks? Like, I thought it was bullets. It's just miniature fish tanks in there. From every life day he has. Oh, thank you for the...

Oh, he likes the miniature fish tank. I was also a little confused about then, like, the... What is it, ubiquity? Like, the common, like, this is just, Life Day is just a Wookie holiday. I imagine so, yes. But everyone respects this. Everyone is like, this is a big deal.

Yeah, we know. Well, I feel like Chooey's probably always talking about Life Day, his life day memories. Right, right. But yeah, they always are like, I guess they're like, I guess in the middle of like the rebellion, you know, Wuk, Chewaka's like, hey, guys, I'd love to kind of do the Death Star stuff or whatever,

but I got to make it home. I got to, can I take a holiday weekend? Like, Chewy is, like, leaving the rebellion. It seems like Luke's working on his, like, tie fighter. Princess Leah is, like, doing something else. And, by the way, Luke seems, I don't know, Luke working on that tie fighter. I had a lot of questions about that, too.

I just want to know where, and I guess this was for Leia also, where they all look like, you know when, like, you're in line for Disneyland and, like, Patrick Warburton comes on and, like, tells you, like, he's in that room or something, like working on a fake plane or something and talks to you. that's the kind of room that it felt like that Luke was in. Where were they? It's one shot, no close-ups.

Like they literally walked them in, gave them their costume, and got eyeliner on Mark Hamill. For sure. And they said, let's go like, Mark Hamill looks younger in this than he does in Star Wars. And this is, I guess, before the car accident

where he got the scar on his face from that then is now part of, like, the world of Star Wars. But it's like that it was crazy to see how young he looked. and also you're right it is like that aerosmith rock and roll roller coaster

hey you guys are here jump on board then you can come for our show too you wookies and there's no resolution to the blockade the whole threat of the whole episode is like oh there's a blockade around Kashik or Kazouk

as it's referenced here and then like they get there and Hans like it's a little traffic let's go around like that's it they don't fight, they don't do anything. Oh, is that all it was? Or were there also people after them, though?

They were looking for rebels, right? Yeah, but then they say that they put a blockade around the planet. And that, well, that would guess would be the blockade, that they just kind of just go, oh, we'll just go here. We'll make a, we'll turn down this block instead. It's almost as if they didn't put a lot of thought into this thing. Or they were on so, like, all of the drugs. Yeah.

How weird was it when Art Carney arrived at the house, at Chewbacca's house? and, like, made Mala give him a kiss. Yes, and a little kid. There's so much wookie human crossover. He was, like, really pushy about getting a kiss from Mala, which I thought was real creepy. That's a real Lando move. Yeah.

He was all up in Leah's junk, too. That's true, yeah. And then Jefferson Starship, we should talk about that. Oh, my God. I felt so stupid. I was like, I know this is a famous band. who is this? So how did they get that?

Why? Why? Jefferson Starship in this, I mean, yeah, it's like, who are they? I mean, they got out easy. I mean, I think Diane Carroll and Jefferson Starship got out easy. Because they just had to do what they do. Yeah, they just put on costumes. I'm pretty sure, though, I couldn't tell.

Did they have them singing? Was the microphone, did they try to make it look like a lightsaber? Yeah, it was all glowing. All their instruments were glowing. Do you think that they were chosen solely because their name was Starship for this? Oh, I bet you. I didn't even realize that. It led me to think, too, that when they went from Jefferson Airplane to Starship,

that is the coolest band reboot name I ever heard of. I didn't even realize that. That's crazy. Yeah, Jefferson Airplane to Jefferson Starship. Yeah, they lost Grace Lake and went like, we're going to the stratosphere. You know how we can top losing the whole draw of this band? We're going to space. So crazy.

Oh, my God. Yeah, Jefferson Starship just performs, again, in one of the many points in this show where someone watches entertainment. We have someone watching a circus, we have someone watching VR porn, we have someone watching Jefferson Starship, we have a lot of cartoons. Oh, and then the cartoon,

it's voiced over by this guy. Now, in Star Trek, it's like Captain's Log, Star Date So and So. In this, there's another guy that's like, Rebel Log, you know, and it's like, who is this guy that's narrating this? Wouldn't it be like Chubaca or like Luke Skywalker's

log? I don't know, but there's so much watching of TV in this show that it leads me to believe someone's watching me watch this every time I watch I have to say that like while Harrison Ford must have been bummed because his character is most closely connected to the character they base the entire special around which means he has to be in

it more than anyone. He does sell it at certain points. He does yeah. Like when he like says like he looks at Chewy like real lovingly and like you're like family to me and then they all say how they can't make Life Day But yeah, and then they're all there at the end at Life Day. And Chewbacca's in his red smock, which I think is amazing. Yeah.

Wait, that you meant like the robe. The robe. I'm sorry, yeah, the robe, yeah. It was just making sure that those were so weird. So I think it was only to cover up the fact they didn't have enough costumes for the rest of these people because you don't even see the other wookies. You just see red things. And I don't understand what Life Day is. Like, Life Day, they hold an orb in their hand.

then they're transported away, but then they're back. But, yeah, they walk through outer space. They walk into a sun or something. Is it like ayahuasca? No, but then they're around like a big giant tree base. But they're in space. Guys, I think they might be on Pandora. Oh, my God.

When Leia sings at the end, Han and Luke have looks on their face that remind me of when my family holds hands and pray at Christmas where you're doing. Just you feel like, is someone watching me right now? I've got to be respectful, but it's so uncomfortable. Well, there's something also interesting in here right before they start to sing, like C-3PO and R2D2 drop a very big bomb on everyone in the Star Wars world where they basically say, like, I wish we were human, so we had feelings. And could be credited as humans in the credits.

And then so you understand that they are not human, and then Leah sings. I want to just play a little bit of Leah's Life Day song, So we'll hear a little bit of R2D2 and Cithuio lamenting their non-sentient being. It is indeed true that at times like this, Arto and I wish that we were more than just mechanical beings. And we're really alive so that we could share your feelings with you. Chewbacca! Chewbacca, we were so relieved to hear you were all right. All of you are an important part of my life, pal.

I'm glad I could be here. This holiday is yours but we all share with you the hope that this day brings us closer to freedom and to harmony and to peace no matter how different we appear we're all the same in our struggle against the powers of evil and darkness

I hope that this day will always be a day of joy in which we can reconfirm our dedication and our courage and more than anything else our love for one another here you go this is the promise of the tree of life this is what it is

Just let's do a couple seconds of this To the tune of Star Wars Oh you're right It is Essentially And now I'm a further Together joy And now

I'm a further confused because they all join up there. They're all meeting up on Kashik to have, like, a life day party. It doesn't seem like it's for them. It seems like this is purely a wookie thing. And yet she's saying how this is like galvanizing the forces of the rebels. But it's not, I don't get it. It seems like it's Christmas, right?

It's supposed to be like Christmas. Yes. It shouldn't be like a, it was weird, weird moral preachy just like stuck on there. Why? It's like this song at the end is. Like, it's not, nothing about this would be fun. Nothing about it is fun. This is like a somber side story of the Star Wars world.

Even at the end of Star Wars. And it's all wukies. All wukies. They're the only non-wookies there. I feel like, why does Chubaka get to bring friends? Yeah. Well, again, I feel like Chubaka's the outcast of the wookie planet. It's like, you're first of all, you're fucking deadbeat dead.

Then you bring all your friends over to her life day. Come on, man. And your friends take over our celebration and make speeches. Yeah. Why is Leah singing at the Wookie Celebration? I was like, if you're, like, I get it if it's like, okay, oh, we want, like, because we don't want to end it. Like, we want it to be English.

But they didn't care about that for all the rest of the movie. So why wouldn't they have, like, get the credit. Get Chewy to make the big speech. And by the way, I would have been very excited at the end of, like, Return of the Jeddah where they had the Yub-Nub song. Like, that's all not English. And that's Ewok singing. Like, let's have something like that

That seems like a celebration song Like, but nope, it's like Let's give this old, not old Let's give this white lady a chance to sing Like, like I just feel like she's not an entertainer She's a, she's a princess and a rebel leader She's not known for her singing prowess. But Carrie Fisher

No, that's B Arthur. Yeah. I really did. Be Arthur gets to sing her song And that's really weird to add. Oh my God. B. Arthur, like, you know, they have to fill up that canteen

a full of shit, like all these different creatures. And the laziest version is that giant rat on the side. Oh, yeah. It's like, uh, yeah, and a big rat. She'll talk to that big fucking rat. Then B, you're going to go from this guy here, and you're going to go and you're going to sit next to the big rat, and then you're going to sing this part. Like, the blocking of that alone must have made her want to kill herself.

Shot in like one day, probably the worst one day, terrible craft service. They're just sitting there miserable. B. Arthur only agreed to do it. She never saw Star Wars either, but her grand kid or something was a big fan of it. So that's why she jumped in. And apparently the canteen a day was an entire day, but the actors in the alien costumes began to pass out due to lack of oxygen. So there are oxygen tanks on set because of that. Does it say where this was shot?

This could have been, it probably was, like, or CBS Radford or that television city. I think at the end it did say something about, I don't. I should have remand, but, like, shot at, like, Burbank. Of course, because every variety show ever made was shot in Burbank. I'm certain of that. That's amazing. God, so close to us. That all happened.

So close to us. There should be a memorial or some kind of plaque or something. But could you imagine doing the Force Awakens special now? Like, what would be the, like, the one-to-one ratio? It would be like, I don't know what it would be. I mean, it would be like, the girl, like, two broke girls come in. Yeah. They work in like a jacu diner or something like that.

Absolutely. Ava Longoria. Two broke girls are too young. Oh, you're right. It would have to be like, who do you? They're too young. It would have to be like. Ed O'Neill.

Like Doris, Roberts, and Ed O'Neill. Yeah. You know, the producers turned down Robin Williams from being in the special. CBS didn't like him, so they turned him down. So Robin Williams could have been in the Star Wars Holiday Special. Would he have been to Harvey Cormin? part? I imagine he had to have been the Harvey Corman part.

Yeah, and was Mark and Mindy wasn't on yet at this point, right? 78, was it? I feel like he might have. No, probably not. Yeah, they would have loved to have had him if he was. Oh, yeah. Yes, I mean, that would have been great. Just as he, Doris Roberts, doing a song at like the, whatever that character,

the Maz, the Maz character's Cantina and the Force Awakens. Did we talk about the instructional video? Oh, no. that was another Harvey Corman performance art piece. This is like what is going on here? Now that I actually liked. It was so absurd and almost in a timinic way whether they meant

it or not. Yeah. I was riveted by that and I don't know exactly why but it was so interesting. The child's computer equipment is broken and he's going to repair it so he puts on an instructional video to show him how to repair his like laptop and it's Harvey Corman yet again as another character.

This one is like a I mean you guys can describe a robot. A robot, yeah. Do that after the fact where they just went, well, we didn't have any jokes in the first place and he didn't really do anything. Let's tweak with the editing. Was that always planned? Again, I don't even understand the logic behind it because the idea would be like, this is

an instructional video. So why would they even release it if the robot malfunctioned unless the robot only comes alive when they're doing it? Like, there's not even a logic there. Well, I thought it was the playback that was malfunctioning, but don't trust me on that. It was like skipping and jumping. Oh, but I thought that Harvey Korman was also falling down at certain points, too, because he was... Good question.

You know what? I think you're right. I think it was after the fact because there was no, not that people were reacting appropriately or the wookies were reacting appropriately, but like, there was no acknowledgement that it was like, there was no like, Lumpy was like, oh no. Like, it's messing up to totally, totally normal. So after the fact, they were like, we got to make it interesting. We got, I mean, and they really did, like, that wouldn't be amazing. of that was like one of Tim and Eric's

like editor's grandfather's worked on this. Or they're like, we have to make this funny or this special isn't going to work because everything else is right in the pocket. We nailed it. This is the one thing. And they also reuse footage from Star Wars a handful of times

to a degree. Yeah, okay, I am watching it right now. Harvey Corman falls down. So it's not playback. He literally falls and his head hits the table, and he's like, er, er, he's malfunctioning. He's shorting out.

That's crazy. Why not just put him in the room with them? And then you just have a funny robot performance. I guess no one was going to get on that wookie set. Yeah. It was only broadcast once. We talked about that. What, anything else that we may have missed that I know that there's so much to talk about,

but I, oh, this isn't an issue that I always have. Mala is making wookie ookies, which are wookie cookies. But that's an issue that I have because we don't call them, like, human ukees. Like, I don't understand. Yeah, cookies are cookies, a cookie. Exactly. They don't have to have, like, the name of the species before it. You wouldn't call them, yeah, like, yeah, they were called wuki-ukis.

Yeah. He's like, are you making some of those wookie-ookies for me? We're making some human ramen over here. I did feel like Art Carney would have fucked muller. Well, it makes it sound like they're made of wookie. Maybe they're cannibals. Which would make wookies cannibals. I do want to go back to, do you think that Art Carney did have an affair with Mala?

Could that have happened? Well, you can't blame her for, you know, I mean, A, for because Chubacca's gone, but also Arcarnie, what a catch. And then when Chubaca gets back, the sexual chemistry that is between, the sexual tension between him and Mala is palpable. Why didn't they actually kiss? It almost happened and then they hugged it. I wanted to see that wiki kiss so bad. I don't think their mouths can do that. Yeah, there's no way.

Again, I feel like I want to get into, I want to go deep into Chewbacca's life. Couples therapy, why Mala's upset with him. Like, what is going on? I feel like maybe that was a little bit of the intention. Like, if it went over well, maybe they would have made, like, a TV series off of it. Oh, I think you're probably right. Oh, I mean, I feel like they did make these EWAC specials eventually, like, later on, which we were going to maybe focus on, but they're just actually too boring. But this is at least is a train wreck

But yeah, like there I mean I think that like Imagine if Lucas directed the second one This is what he wanted He wanted to focus on wookies like this Like the Empire Strikes Back could have had a giant chunk Of just this Wookie

Just boring Wookie Takes the most interesting character The most like beastlike character And just like makes him the most domestic There's an oven in there They have like a nice oven and furniture There's nothing there's nothing wookie about it.

It's just nice. It's like, wouldn't you like to see what the equivalent of a wookie chair is? The only difference between a wookie and a human family is that they don't speak English and most of their house is made of wood. That's the only difference. Which you could say for a lot of Italians.

That's true. Wow. Really going hard at Italians. Again. I mean, or anyone who like, where is IKEA from? Don't try a backtrack on this now. No, they're not no tourist.

Harry. You have to stay Mediterranean to make this work. What else? Anything else that you saw worth bringing up? I was just going to say that the part that I really

did get emotional when Lumpy, when he's putting back together the stuffed animal, I really, I felt for him. And all of the inserts, they had just like random inserts really close up

of a lot of their faces. And like the ones at the end of Mala, like almost crying were so, they were like, I was like, oh, and then I couldn't, I like burst out laughing because they were so absurd. I got emotional when he had to clean his room because they showed the entire process and it just brought me back to when I had to clean my room.

I don't know if it's like being a new dad on some level, but I do get emotional with like things with like sons and dads. Like they did get like a little bit like there was a moment. I was like, I'm feeling this because it was like, you don't want to see a kid get beat up and tortured and treated poorly. By this stupid appears. Oh, my God. That's amazing. I really just, the thing that I want to remind everybody of is that in the middle of all

of this, they murder a storm. Yeah. And everybody appears to be unfazed. And our cranny, when he goes and he, when they're like, where is the, where is he? He lies and says that he was robbed and that then he, whatever, he fled. but so incriminating himself. The guy, they will so quickly find out, no, she was thrown off of this thing. For all of the distrust that the empire has throughout this entire special, in that one sentence, they're like, okay, good enough for me, let's wrap this up.

You got it, buddy. Makes sense that our stormtrooper just defected out of no reason, and on Kashik, like in this wookie planet where he'll stick out like a sore thumb. I did want to... I guess that guy robbed a bunch of wookies and took off for the forest. because that's what stormtroopers do. Oh, there's two things I didn't even talk about. First of all, I just briefly just want to mention the long antenna on like, I guess, you know, one of the imperial soldiers

has like an antenna that is, I would say, like, three feet. Yeah, CB antenna. Yeah, CB antenna, which I loved. Just like, the technology should be a little bit more advanced than that. We're flying spaceships around. I mean, they have pocket aquariums for Christ. Yeah, and we're calling up Leah across the galaxy. We're getting a live stream to Mo Zaisley's.

We don't need this long antenna here anymore. And then the other thing that I want to talk about is, so at the end, Chewbacca and Han get there. They kill a stormtrooper, and Chewbacca's kid jumps into whose arms first? Han. Hons solo, that's right. Yeah. The kid jumps in, like, again, proving Chewbacca's a bad dad.

The first person he goes to. Man, that's only something a new dad would notice. That is the takeaway from the special. Chewbacca is a dead bad dad. That is now canon. Yes. Obviously, that was our opinion about the film, but there are other people out there with another opinion.

It is now time for second opinions. Make no mistake, this movie blows. And we have now reached the best part of the show. Paul Shear and the game, they had their say, but there are people out there that feel a different way let's check out these five-star reviews

close from Amazon we'll try to figure out what is going on damn okay when I watched this when I was a young kid I loved it because it was a Star Wars show I wasn't a critic

now that I'm older I suspect this was created by people under the influence of drug culture in the 70s using Star Wars characters to tell a story. If you can see and accept this, this show is very good. Entertaining, creative, and its own way, unique. Leonard Malton. Five stars.

Well, I guess, yeah, if you accept drug culture in the 70s, then that works. I'd maybe agree with that sort of. I think that they did weird shit here. I mean, it definitely, yeah, like, no one's really into it in the five-star reviews. They're probably all enjoying it ironically. Yeah, yeah. This one, the Star Wars holiday special is, sadly a forgotten classic. The epic storyline is primarily concerned with Chewbacca

trying to make it home in time for Life Day. But at its core, the film is a metaphor for the common man's attempt to make the world better for his family in the face of corrupt and uncaring people. Parallels to 1984 envisioned by the empire occupying their house and manhandling their property. This classic also allows us insight into its supposedly gruff character of Han Solo, who reveals his tender side and his relations with Chubaka and Chubaca's family. His crying when Princess Leah sings the lyrics to Star Wars main theme. Oh, wow.

Five stars. I didn't realize that that would be like, that's the lyrics to the main theme. I didn't know that. This is written by like an Iron RAND reader, that one, where it's like the tyranny in 1984. That is like a tea party person. Yeah.

People liked it. People like this. Would you guys recommend watching this at all? Oh, yes. 100%. Over a week at least. Especially right now. Yeah.

Right now it's a good chance because of, It's a holiday season. Watch it right before or after seeing The Force Awakens, too, just to see when what happens and that movie happens, it's good to reflect on. It really is good to remember the important things here. And we didn't talk about the, I think, the best part, which was the cartoon. Yeah, it's, yeah, good. I actually, I really, I enjoyed it.

I also, I mean, there was no point they didn't get. It was like, oh, whoa, like, Boba Fett wasn't on our side. Yeah. And then nothing happened. It's solely to get the action figure marketed. It's so crazy Every resolution here is so quick It's like

Like Boba Fet's like Oops See you later, suckers And he just like Shoot a world class assassin He could have just got into a gunfight or anything Like they basically like We know you're a bad guy

He's like He could have killed him at any time Yeah Yeah like Boba Fetz Is a bad bounty hunter But yeah But it looks cool And like

I almost would have preferred If the whole holiday special Were these like little vignettes Like these like cool little Because that was like a cool adventure Obviously, you couldn't shoot Star Wars, so why don't you just do them as cartoons? It had that animation style, like heavy metal or like the creep show interstitials where the people always are, they're always moving. Yeah.

Has that strange 70s, I don't know, like punk rock animation or something, it's really cool. I also, I really enjoyed the way Harrison Ford was drawn. Oh, yeah. It was so weird. He had like little tiny. They always drew him like he was like high the whole time. I wish like You know, it's so funny

Harrison Ford I think had so many issues With the Return of the Jedi But I feel like this is back in the day Where you could get your main cast Of the biggest blockbuster of all time To do a TV variety special Oh yeah There is nothing else like that

You will never see this again Like you could never even get the Lord of the Rings Like Elfin Feast special You would never see these characters Out and about Like they, people have a hard time of getting characters to do video game voices. Like, you get alone, come on and act in like a multicam production of their own shit. Yeah. The closest analog to this is they'll go on like a Jimmy Fallon and do a Star Wars sketch or something like that.

Or like Daniel Craig did one for Spector and that's the best you'll get out of the. Yeah. And even that. Or you'll get now, I get, I think what you get more is like Daniel Craig has to do like a Heineken ad. Yeah. Right. Or a funnier dive. You know, which I feel like has the same.

same level of embarrassment. That's right, yeah. Oh, my gosh. Well, we'll never know what Life Day is officially. Do we know when it is exactly? I mean, look, it's a... It's Christmas, I think. Do we know?

Is it like in the Star Wars universe, is the calendar the same as ours? I mean, it literally can't be because it's... Ours is, what, a lunar calendar based on our sun? Yeah, so they don't have that. We know that it's not winter on Kashik, or maybe... Again, that's my issue with these planets. It could be winter somewhere. That's good just be, he could live in the Miami version of the Wookie Planet.

We don't know if it's winter. They didn't seem to have any decorations up for it. But if we've learned anything from Star Wars planets, it's one terrain per planet. All snow, all desert. It's so bizarre. Like, that's the laziness of Star Wars. It's like one. Yeah.

It would be so cool if Star Wars was on one planet, then it would make a lot of sense. Like, oh, different islands. Yeah, yeah. Nope, just all different planets. This is the island planet. This is the desert planet This is the floating planet Well, that was the Star Wars holiday

special. We are glad that you guys Bared with it with us. I mean I'm glad I watched the whole thing And it's unique. It's You'll never make anything This wrong and this off Ever again. It has a certain beauty. I can't wait to show this to my child as the first

Introduction to Star Wars. This is what everybody loves. And thank you. you to everybody for listening. Also, a big thank you to Averallie, who does all of our clip pulling. She has an amazing site called Movie Bitches. Also, a big shout out to Nate Kiley, Merza Zytes, Cody Scully, everybody here at Earwolf for making this show. And we thank you and wish you a very happy life day or whatever holiday you celebrate. See you in the new year. Bye-bye.