How Did This Get Made? - Thrashin'

Episode Date: July 17, 2026

Josh Brolin is gnarly in 1986's Thrashin'—the classic tale of two lovers caught in a feud between rival teen skateboard gangs. Paul, June, and Jason discuss the famous joust scene, why "The Ramp Locals" is a terrible skate crew name, The Red Hot Chili Peppers cameo, if the boy/girl sex scene turns into a man/woman scene, Hook and Chrissy's weird relationship, the giant bowl of ice cream, and so much more. Plus, June explains why she thinks she could do the LA Massacre Downhill.   Watch Josh Brolin talk Thrashin' on Tony Hawk's "Hawk vs Wolf" podcast HERE. • Go to hdtgm.com for tour dates, merch, FAQs, and more• Leave us a voicemail at speakpipe.com/hdtgm• Submit your Last Looks theme song here• Join our Discord at discord.gg/hdtgm• Buy merch at howdidthisgetmade.dashery.com/• Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of Trauma• Shop our new hat collection at podswag.com• Paul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheer• Paul’s YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheer• Follow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer• Subscribe The Dark Web w/ Paul & Rob Huebel: youtube.com/@enterthedarkweb• Listen to Unspooled with Paul & Amy Nicholson: unspooledpodcast.com• Listen to The Deep Dive with June & Jessica St. Clair: thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcast• Instagram: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & @junediane• Twitter: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & msjunediane  • Jason is not on social media• Episode transcripts available at how-did-this-get-made.simplecast.com/episodesGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

It's West Side Story with daggers and a halfpipes. We saw thrash in, so you know what that means. Now it's time for How did this get made? We're going to have a good time, celebrate some failure, not just be a hater, because you know you wonder, how did this campaign? Let's follow in the mediocrity of subpar art. Perhaps we'll find the answer to the question, how did this get made? Hello, people, Verth, and welcome to How did this get made. Today we are talking about the 1986 classic thrashen.

What Rad did for BMX bikes, thrashen does for skateboarding. The movie stars Josh Brolin as a teen amateur skateboarder who travels to Los Angeles so he can compete in the LA Massacre downhill race. He falls in love. He gets into fights. And yes, he gets his nipples kissed. To talk about this great feat of cinema, I have two amazing co-hosts, please welcome June. Diane Rafeel and Jason Manzoukas. How are you both? I mean, not to pull back the curtain too much, but it took three different intros for us to get

the intro locked and recorded. And boy, am I so delighted that the one that ended with nipples being kissed was the one that we went with. Thank God. Great to be here. Sometimes it just takes a couple takes. I don't normally do it. He really nailed it at the end. I almost want to use all of them, but wow. Just because it really was. starts to crackle when when nipples being kissed gets part of it. And I don't remember that part. Oh, I remember it very clearly.

Is that during the sex scene in the trailer? Do we need to rewatch it? God. Here's what I'm going to say about this movie. There's a large part of me that feels like Josh Brolin is playing the female role in this movie. I'm so ready to talk about it. Female role.

You know what, Paul? Let's talk about it. Because that scene, I just wanted to. talk about one specific shot where his body is in the foreground. She's behind him and we see his full chest, obviously as his shirt off. She's behind him in a way I've only ever seen with a man in a man-woman

scene. Yes, a man, a classic man-woman scene. Yes. That's always in man-woman scenes that are love scenes, the man is always behind and the woman always turns her head to sort of kiss from behind. Agree. And man does here. Yes, a teenage boy. A boy. Yes, this is boy girl. And this is boy girl. And I hope it's okay that we are adults and we're going to talk about boy girl scenes. Yes. But I think this way, because I noticed that as well. And the sex scene also has the sex scene, they do this thing that happens in this era of

teenage movies where the characters can only act out the sex of the scene using neck and a So their heads are doing all of the grinding and the movements that their bodies are not allowed to show. Well, I think that they were like, we can't show her chest. We can show his. And so he gets a lot of. A lot. And it's tender and it's loving. It's the way.

It's the gay, the male gaze on a woman, usually. Not in Thrashers. No, in Thrasher. Thrashing, automatically. It's not Thrasher's. Thrashing. Excuse me. They are thrashers.

Excuse me. It is thrashing. It is in thrashing. We see a cinematic diversity. No, no, I'm so sorry, June. It's so sorry, June. It's not thrashing. The fuck is it.

It's thrash in. It's an couple takes of this. It's thrash in. It's an apostrophe. Thrashen. Thrashing. And I'm only saying that, June, because I just can't have you out in these streets. I understand.

No, I appreciate it. I'm willing to do it as many times as it takes. But. In Thrashen, there's, they really hit that in. Yeah. They cinematically are very subversive. You don't see even in that scene, even though it's above the waist and it's just two heads. He is shot so lovingly.

Yes. His body parts are shot. He's glistening. It's like, he's in that nip. The whole movie, not just the sex scene, is like really a. study in Josh Brolin's body. Yes. Which, by the way, is great. It's great. It's a bangin. It's a

body. It be banging. And by the way, he gets this after Goonies. And we know that's what I was trying to figure out is where in his... Is this exactly post-Gunies? Well, he talked about this on the Tony Hawk podcast. He said he believes that he got the part because the poster for Goonies was all around L.A. when he auditioned for this. So he felt like it positioned him as a movie star. Well, and I mean, like, this is unquestionably, he's the lead of this movie. And in Goonies, he's just like an ancillary character. So this is, oh, does he have ancillary?

I mean, he pops like hell. He was everything for me. I wouldn't even say ancillary. I think that he is definitely a part of the goon. He is not a goonie, but he is a long, yeah, he's not a good. But we all are goonies. Listen, it sounds like you guys were in, I think that Goonies was a sexual awakening. I mean for almost everybody generationally.

For you guys, it sounds like it's Josh Brolin. For me, it was Martha Plimpton, and that's where we are. I will tell you this. I will never have a better movie-going experience than bringing my two sons to see Goonies at Vidyets. Packed theater on a Saturday night the first time that they had seen it. And everyone there is a nerd who loves Goonies and has seen this movie a million times.

But to hear the laughter of a 10. year old and like an eight year old at these jokes for the first time. The audience started laughing at that because they're laughing at like the penis going on upside down and that like and they are cackling but young cackling. And it was it was a, it was a great moment. Sorry, you weren't out there. I love that. Experience that.

I wonder what I was doing. I wish I'd been invited. Yeah. I wish I'd been invited. Let me let me start with this, Paul. Please. Jason. What is thrashen?

Great question. Like honestly, for the listener, it appeared as though June was falling deeper and deeper into a sleep or a post-hypnotic state maybe. I don't. It is described at one point. It is defined as aggressive skateboarding. Frashing. It's just an aggressive stale of skating. I mean, we thrash.

Well, what do you thrash? What do you got? So, you know, I think that thrashing, this movie, I feel like, is taking a term thrashing, which I do believe referred to as like, like, you know, people being violent or people being, you know, skating hard rather than gracefully or anything like that. And in this movie, they equated almost to like they, at the punk rock. show that the red hot chili peppers are playing. The kids are like moshing, but on skateboards.

I feel like that's what this movie wants you to think is thrashing. Because then when they were at the very end, when they were at the L.A. Massacre. Oh, L.A. Massacre. Not the joust. Okay, but, but I did think about the joust. I have a lot of questions about the joust. By the way, my first, like, connection to the joust is via Jackass, who did that on the actual show. I didn't even know that that was from Thrashing. They recreated the joust in the MTV show

and it's awesome and extremely dangerous. The Joust is an insane thing. Oh yeah. So I thought by the end, I mean the Joust, that does seem like aggressive skateboarding, right? That's Threshen to me. But then at the end, when they were

doing the L.A. Massacre, which seems like competitively, like a different category. It is. That's just like downhill, like can you make the turns? Yes. Can you make it? Can you see ahead enough to see if there's like a little divot in the road? Like that's to me a totally separate skill set. Well, this is like a, this is a real thing.

You know, remember Xander Cage. Zander Cage does this on Triple X. Which we are doing live at Largo in July. I would love for people to, who are interested in this, to give a moment of your time to watch the documentary Dogtown and Z-Boys. Yeah, Lord's of Dogs. Lords of Dogtown is the movie that was based on it, but Dogtown and Z-Boys is the documentary, Stacey Peralta documentary, that is about this exact era of skateboarding and a teenage Tony Hawk, who is one of the skateboarders in this movie, is in the movie. All of the Bones Brigade, it's about the whole gang of, like, teenagers who invent this kind of skating and are skating in abandoned pools, but are also doing the slalom-y, big hill stuff.

All of these were very separate things. You're right, June. I want to just first answer June's question. You know, you would think that maybe thrashing is like skateboard dancing, because there seems to be a lot of skateboard dancing in this movie, too, which is so odd. And even in all these documentaries we're talking about, I didn't seem like that never seemed like part of the culture.

Like, let's jump on the skateboard. No, nobody was ever like moshing at a concert on top of a skateboard. Now, that's not part of it. I will say that technically thrashing in skateboard terms means to skate aggressively at high speeds or with high energy. This is the dictionary definition. It's commonly used when a skater attacks a skate park bowl or hits a massive drop in or grinds a heavy obstacle with intensity. So I think thrashing for skateboarding, maybe if this is the correct analogy, is like shredding for skiing. Okay, yeah, right.

I think it's kind of. Like it's not graceful. It's like you're chopping up that mountain where we shredded that run. And there's a part of this where like skateboarding before this or when I look at back to the future, like Marty McFly isn't thrashing. He's just skateboarding around, right? You're telling me that when he's holding on to the back of the car? That's not thrashing. That's not thrashing. That's just like kind of.

That's not thrashing? No, thrashing is like this competitive, the more Tony Hawk thing. Like the in the pool. The aggressive pool moves like the 360s, the seven, 20s, like the big aggressive moves. I think here's where I'm getting tripped up. Yeah. Well, June, when you're playing Tony Hawk on the PS5, like, that's thrashing. Well, this is where I'm getting tripped up and everybody using the word aggressive. So when I see that pool work, when I see them going up like that and holding it for a beat coming back down,

to me, that's actually quite graceful. That's beautiful to see. That doesn't seem trashed. I don't think it was. At the time, I think that was considered like agro. Dangerous. I think it's also. I think. I think. I think. think it's dangerous, right? Because, look, we're not going to be able to some of skateboard culture. But I think that that's what this movie is kind of like the daggers, that gang in the movie, the rival skateboard gang, they are known for aggressive ramps and bowls. Well, they like they toss the jacks into the pool to their cheaters. They're, they're, they're, what's interesting to is that because this is an 80s movie, it has to map.

all of our understandings of the good guys and the bad guys onto 50s aesthetics. Yes. So it is, like you mentioned, in one of your openings, Paul, I'm not sure if it's the one we chose. It is very west side story on skateboard. So it's troubling about that, yeah, is that I love the skateboarding aesthetic, clothing-wise. Like, I think it's so cool. I think it's so interesting. During this time, I remember these boys were so cute who wore the big shirts in the baggy,

And here, they're in leather jackets. They're very... The punk rock, the punk rock gang makes no sense. Does right? I'd love to hear from Gen X skateboarders, West Coast. Was there ever skateboard kids who looked like they were punk rock kids? Because it doesn't seem right. But Gen X skaters who are West Coast, that is Tony Hawk at this time.

It is. That's what I mean. We're going to hear from Tony Hawk a little bit at the end here. But this is not... Is he going to come on the podcast? He's not going to hear? He's not here. God damn it.

You put him in the Zoom waiting room? Is he? He's in a breakout room? I was like, you wait until we get to it and we're not going to, we're going to really, we're going to talk for a long time. We do have some clips. I believe that it is a movie that in skate culture is viewed as so bad it's good, right? It's like, it's getting a lot. It's using some people, but also, to me.

This feels, you know what this feels actually, you know what this movie actually is a map on? Is the karate kid. Oh, yes. His kid moves to L.A. from out of town. He enters into a subculture that is sports or sports adjacent. And he's against, I mean, he doesn't have a crew of his own, I guess. So that's, you know, that's hard. But I mean, but Josh Bruland has like a loose crew.

Like, they're existing without him. And then he kind of just, but I do want to say one thing. I just, I don't want to pin you down to anything, Jason. But you said, you know, he moves. You didn't say that he skates from his home to Los Angeles. I didn't. That's how this movie opens. This man, Josh Brolin, this boy, skates to Los Angeles.

And we don't know exactly where he's starting from, but it seems... The valley. No, no, no. When his house with his mom, he's skating, it seems like he's skating from Ohio. Yeah. Are you serious? He's only in Los Angeles. I believe he's only in Los Angeles for the summer.

But why do they keep on saying he's from the valley? No, because he's with the ramp. The other gang is from the valley. His gang are Valley kids. That's why he's, like, sleeping in the back of the same. trucks and he's like hopping on like San Bernardino no no no June I believe he is from Ohio like he is like you know because he is skating I realize it's like oh this is not him skating to get into town this is him skating this is him scating for country right like she took the bus

to from you know back to Indiana and then he skated we saw every single mile of her journey to and we saw her get in her we saw we saw her use Multiple hitchhike rides on her way back. Never got in with a man, smart lady. Yes, very smart. So much shoe leather, I could not figure it out. This movie, I mean, there's a couple of things that are interesting. The dialogue to skating ratio is incredibly off.

I would say this movie is probably like 10 minutes of dialogue and 70 minutes of skating. There's so many montages. By the way, the soundtrack is dynamical. Oh, I love this. Red hot chili peppers in this movie. Yes, the red hot chili peppers. The original lineup of the red hot chili peppers is in this movie, inexplicably. And when it first started, I was like, oh, this is not the red hot chili peppers.

Me too. I was like, oh, that's because they said it's the red hot chili peppers, but then. Then they called it the thrash bash. The thrash bash. Yeah. And I was like, I couldn't figure it out either. But then I was like, well, no, that is the chili peppers. It's just.

It's a hill. is still alive and it's the guy who was the drummer before Chad Smith. So I was like, I don't know what this is. The other thing that made me laugh at that club that they go, not club, but this party where the chili peppers are playing is this movie is trying to be like, what is skate culture? And they tried to add so much onto it that they did pass a young girl. I'd say she's like 18 years old smoking a cigarette in like one of those like 1940s cigarette holders that you would see like in like double indemnity.

It's like, wait, is that coming back to? Like, she wouldn't smoke a regular cigarette. She's got to put it in a little holder. It just feels like, but that's how it, it did feel like back then, you would buy stuff at a yard sale or at a thrift shop and be like, maybe this is part of my identity. Fedoras, like those little mini fedoras. The kid wearing the fedora is a perfect example. I feel like my generation wore all of the old hats that were for sale at yard sales and

thrift stores from the greatest generation who were passing away. That's truly what we were doing. Oh my God. I mean, I also want to say that what I love about movies like this is you know, I'm not saying that skate culture is stoner culture,

but there is definitely a crossover. And movies like this can never show like people smoking pot, right? They can only show like, Baz is our stoner. But Baz is never drinking, but Baz is. is stoned all the time. And I love just like, it's like that Galaxy Quest thing

where you can't really ever acknowledge it, but it's like, well, there's something wrong with this guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, he lets his car get cut in half. Oh, my God. When they turned the Volkswagen Rabbit, which was the very first car that I drove, a diesel-tan diesel Volkswagen Rabbit.

When they cut the roof off of it and make it a cabriolet, when they make it a convertible, I was like, this is incredible. This is the kind of teen movie that I just love. I love teen, summer, everybody. There's no parents. There's no, like, there's no authority figures. The mom doesn't even send him to California.

She just writes five notes and puts it on his mirror. And to which he leaves the house by jumping out his own window to then skateboard down the roof onto a ramp blocking the garage. now as a homeowner, I must say, well, that, you're really kind of, you got to use, you've block in the garage, you got to use that garage. The resale value in this house is cratering. I want to just, like, there are so many things in here that are crazy to be, like, obviously, the real issue is, you know, Josh Boland falls in love with a girl who is the sister of a guy in the rival gang. Now, the daggers seem like a gang.

The ramp locals seem like skatechinks. They seem like a 50s, like a grease gang. They are like a greaser gang. The only difference between them being like a greaser gang is that they pose for pictures. They take a gang picture around a ramp. That is one of my, like, hey, everybody, get in here. Get in here. We're taking our gang picture.

I mean, listen, they do light a ramp on fire. Yep. Yeah. They are violent. I mean, they are violent. They are the daggers. They live in a house. First of all, his sister is acting like she's not living in a flop house. I mean, the dagger's main house has daggers painted on cupboard doors. That house is a crack den. And she's living at like, I just got back from the mall. Everything's good. I'm like, wait, wait, no, you are living.

And she's like a real living, a real kind of like, Cheryllyn, there's a group of like daggers hangers on. led by Sherilyn Fen, who's dating the head of the daggers, the brother of the main girl who's now falling in love with Josh Brolin's character. And they all, the daggers and their girls,

especially for the joust, are all doing crazy face makeup all the time. They're almost dressed. They got scarred or something like that, right? This is what's so weird about that makeup, because I was thinking about that too, Jason. It's not, it doesn't really line up with what they're,

quote like the rest of the vibe. No, they're dressed like punk rockers, but they're wearing almost goth makeup. It's very strange. I mean, at one point, Velvet cuts a lock of her hair and makes it into an earring for a mean guy. And I'm like, who was organizing this and being like, so this is how we're going to, and in this scene, you'll cut some of your hair and you'll turn it into an earring, just like we researched it, just like these kids do.

What? I mean, I want to play this. clip. Like, this is an insane moment with this character, the head of the daggers, who is so kind of brutal and mean and tough, is like, what do you think? Should I wear this skull in the dagger or the hoop and the dagger? Yeah, just with a dagger and a bone for your nose. Don't be a smart ass. It's important to me. Hey, I take my jewelry seriously. Like, he's like, I'm just being serious. Like, he wants to know, like, what should I wear? Bone, a hoop or a dad? Also is like he really, to your point earlier, he really wants to make sure his little sister gets in the gang picture.

Yes. Like, I don't think she's really even part of the gang. She wears like bright colors. And I don't know how she's keeping those clothes so pressed and clean. And that house should be condemned. Maybe she brought a portable street steamer. You don't leave home without it, Paul. No, I can't.

I love it. I mean, it's a great thing to have that. Listen, West Side Story. like the brother's sister dynamic here felt very off to me. Yeah. It didn't feel like above board. His energy toward her was not, I'm an overprotective brother. It was I'm your abusive boyfriend.

Very much. I agree very much. And it wasn't helped by the fact that for reasons, can't quite understand everybody seems the same age. You know, there does not seem to be an older, younger contingent. No, he kept on saying, ah, you guys know what it's like kid's sister. And he's like, brother, daddy. And daddy is also a little creepy.

It's because it's he. But she seems like the more mature older one, which is also fucking with my sense of who's who. Yeah, it's like, I know it's a man woman scene, but what within that, are these two people to each other? See, here's the thing. I feel like you're not to overcomplicate it. I feel like I'm looking at this boy-girl scene and they're acting like it's a man-woman scene.

And I'm like, I don't know. I can't make heads or tails out of it. I just kept on laughing because I knew it wasn't this person, but I kept on picturing the brother as a young Hank Azaria. Because he had a look that reminded me. And I was like, this is like, if Hank Azaria is this like tough guy, because he was giving me Jason Gedrick vibe. Oh, yes.

Now, right? That's irony. right? Oh, 100% Iron Eagle. I love Jason Gedrick. Or I did. The other thing about him was none of them could agree on what accent anyone would really have in this movie. Because Josh Brolin's kind of rocking a little bit of an accent. And then Chrissy is really rocking an accent that doesn't seem Midwest at all. It almost seems like New Yorkie. Like, you're putting all these people together. And I'm like, well, you can hear each other. We haven't all agreed on what we're doing here.

It was really, there were so many things that were off-putting about the relationships, their voices. I mean, I loved every moment of it. But it's an odd vibe because you wanted, Chrissy needed to get reprimanded, I guess. I don't know if she needed to, but that's what they're kind of doing to her in the movie a lot. But her brother is straight of evil. I kind of wished, I guess, and maybe this wouldn't have helped, maybe it would have. I kind of wished that Chrissy had, in fact, been a dagger. It was like a loyal deck.

That's the way. That's the way. Because then she would have been torn in some guy. Correct. And as it was, she was like, yeah, like this guy. I like this guy. Why can't you support me? You know, like, and she doesn't have any allegiance.

Yeah, she doesn't have any, like, none of her friends are trying to pull her away from him. You know. She doesn't seem to have individual friends. Like, Sherilyn Fen is. Not her friend. It's her brother's girlfriend. So she seemed like really on her own. Yeah.

Also, gosh, I didn't know if our guys were in the Valley. Like, they're, the name that they gave themselves, the ramp locals? The ramp local is terrible name. Terrible. Terrible. We're the ramp locals. What does that mean? I'm assuming it's a skate ramp.

It's for locals only maybe. I don't know. I mean, they definitely have a ramp in a cornfield. I mean, I don't know where that ramp was built in Los Angeles. I'm like, it looks like it was like in the field of dreams a lot. So like in the montage, they also are like skateboarding up and down Hollywood Boulevard, you know, which I will say it was very fun to see stretches of Hollywood Boulevard. You know, not like they are now. What year is this Paul?

86. So like this is before like the Ripley's music. Yeah. The Scientology. The Scientology centers, right, is still that same building. They were by wacko over in those feelers. Oh, my God, the whack. I, like, I freaked out when I saw wacko.

Me too. I also loved the choice to make the owner of the skate shop. Oh, please. Who's going to, like, give the winner of the LA Massacre a sponsorship to make him like a suit, like a classic 80s corporate suit? A man who is never skated. Yes. He's never.

he's a thicker man who never has touched a skateboard in his life doesn't look like it. And it looks like he's a weird man with a van who's trying to get kids in the back of it. And then when you meet him, he's like Willie Wonka-esque. He's like, here, put this tire in your mouth. Wait, what? Why is he asking Josh Brolin to bite on the wheel of a skateboard? I didn't understand that. And I didn't care for it, in fact.

But he's a businessman. He's not a businessman. He's a businessman. He doesn't really care about the culture. You know how that happens in skateboarding. Yeah. But can I just say one thing about him too? When they're in his little factory and he's, you know, he's like overseeing the work in the factory.

He's like, I only care about winners. And then just off in a random shelf in the middle of a warehouse, he has his trophy collection. He's like this. It's like, wait, you're not even displaying that for anyone to see. It's not around your desk. It is just a shelf in the factory. to show that and then why would you get the trophies if you repris like it's just an odd thing it's like producers getting an Oscar yeah I guess yeah but they're getting a but producers don't even

get a real Oscar apparently they have to get the the invitation one of my favorite specifics in this movie was in the gang in our gang the hero gang the the the ramp locals ramp locals sorry um is that they have like an authentic like 13 year old in their crew. Oh, I loved him. Who every time he pipes up, like when the bad guy is like, you be at the, I'll meet you at the Bronson half pipe, by the way, which is up the street from where I used to live.

I used to, my hike every day used to be right past the Bronson half pipe, which is so funny. There were kids still skating on it. Oh, anyway, he said, I'll meet you. You be there. And then the little kid just goes, no, you'll be there. And they cut to this little kid wearing sunglasses and I'm like make the movie about this fucking kid. I love the kid.

I love the kid. You know what I was confounded by? When we're on our like epic date with Josh Burl the whole night, and by the way, you know, her hair is long and then it's short and then it's long and then it's short again. Well, June, you have to remember that they did go from like Santa Monica to Hollywood to those fears back to Santa Monica. It's chopped into such a like smart bob. I'm like she had long hair two scenes ago.

That night, I think, or maybe it's a different night. They're at a diner and we cut it and they've just finished. They have just finished. This. A bowl that's the size of... Like a serving dish of salad for like... Dinner party of 18. Yes.

No, like the biggest bowl serving bowl that can be made. That can be made is what... they've eaten from and they're on the tail end of it. And it's also like China. Like it's, it is. It would almost be like the biggest bowl of popcorn you can get at the movies. You know what I mean?

Yeah. But bigger. The bowl itself was way too fancy. It read to me like she was the only one who ate it. Because Josh Brolin's sitting with his back up against the wall. Like he's not actively in. They say it was ice cream. The people behind them, they have it.

They did. Oh, the people behind them had it. Now, I will just say, Jason, you don't know this, but I was just in Vegas, and I ate some called the Titanic. And the Titanic at Carmines is a ice cream Sunday that looks like the Titanic. It has three smokestacks in it with a bunch of chocolate and vanilla ice cream over a giant brownie. And I had two children with me.

And it was just me. And we put, I would say, one fourth of a dent into this thing. Wow. And I had a different appreciation for how hard it would be to eat that bowl of ice cream. And it feels like Chrissy just went to town on it. It feels like the kind of thing that you would win a T-shirt for Finney. Yes. Yeah, there it is.

We're looking at it. I don't know how. It's so big. And it's full of bananas. And the person behind, it looks like a gigantic banana split. Looks delicious, actually. Okay, I have an update. I know what it is now.

Okay. It's unequivocally a punch bowl. Yes. Thank you, Jason. It's a punch bowl. So, but here's the thing. They have more time together. Anyone, I don't care if you have a stomach of steel.

Nope. Anyone's going to be in pain. This is going to be a gastrointestinal nightmare. You do not. want to have sex after eating a punch bowl full of ice cream. This is, this is one of two things. This is either creating a diarrhea factory in your body or it's stopping stuff up for a week. Wait, is that, is the sex scene after this? Correct. Wow. I really, next level. Just looking at it, I'm like the amount that even if they both consumed it,

Even if they split it equally. I'm telling you guys, I live this. I lived Titanic. And it was a lot of whipped cream. You know, it's like it's meant to be a spectacle that people get that no one really will ever finish. It's not for consumm. It's no one expects you to eat that whole thing. No.

So that's why we never follow Mr. Flood into the back of his van where he has got all the ice cream you can eat. One of the things that I want to say that I loved about the sex scene that we did speak about earlier and just how tender and how much it's about love is and their connection with each other is that like all good 80s movies, it is soundtracked to a duet, a ballad that is a man-woman duet, a boy-girl duet. Let the love begin. Let the love begin is the best song ever written. The lyrics are, I mean, I mean, wow. It is, I also loved it the song that was, Don't Think Twice, which was also great. I mean, the soundtrack is great. I looked it up.

It's not officially on Spotify, but a number of the songs are. Can I just read a line from Let the Love Again? Two different people from such different worlds apart has touched each other's hearts like candles in the dark. It's time for us. We got to take it. Take a chance. The chance to make it now.

Let the love begin. Yeah. Let the love begin. Let the love begin. I will say, even though I don't know what they, I don't know, I did feel that they had a very nice connection. I like that. They had great chemistry and I was like, yeah. Well, they're both like, they're both Midwestern people.

Like, that's the other hilarious part about this. They both are outsiders from L.A. They both seem level-headed and honest. And they get together. There's no real conflict in them at. Like, there's no reason for us to not root for them. Like, they seem like arguably they should just leave town together because their lives would be better off. And, oh, I also loved, so when Chrissy decides that she's leaving, you know, this town, it's too much for her.

They've broken his arm, the joust, I think, proves to be too much, maybe. The joust, we'll get into it in a minute. But they put her, the brother's like, fine, you're leaving? Great. He drives her to the bus station in the middle of the night. We then cut to her. We cut to her sleeping on the bus station benches the next day, midday. She wakes up.

When did her, he dropped her off at like 2 o'clock in the morning and she slept there all night and waited. He likes to arrive early. I mean, I had hoped. What the fuck was this? Honestly, I had hoped that she had already done one leg. Maybe. God, I hope. Maybe.

But, I mean, then she gets. It's on multiple buses. I mean, she's not sleeping. It's crazy. I don't know. And it's like, I have to be honest, when I watched this, because you're right, Jason, like, we were so with her on this bus trip. I actually thought to myself watching it. I was like, you know, I never think to take a bus somewhere.

Oh, wow. It never occurs to me. Of course not. I did. In New York, I did buses. Where were you taking them? There were times where I would take the bus from New York to Boston. Yeah, so never did that.

That, you know, that Hampton, and Jitney was a thing that people did. Like, you got to the Hampton. Okay, sure. But I... If the movie had been smart, it would have made the slalom second to last and the joust last.

Right? Well, no, because I think the jousts... Because the joust, to me, seems so, like, violent and so much more... They have to overcome. Like, I mean, that's the thing. He's got the broken arm. That was why he came here in the first place.

The swallum just felt so blotomy. Yeah, it was not just fun. It's just simply watching a bunch of people on skateboard to go downhill. There's nothing. It's like, oh, well, you're just taking gravity and using it and you're going down. There was no skill. Spoken like a loser who never finished a downhill slalom, June. But it's also like...

It's a lot. What are you just flying? Hey, yeah. You know what? You know what? Maybe the joke is on me, but I couldn't tell. Like, when I see someone skiing downhill, I'm like, oh, it's a lot of fucking work. But if I agree, because to me, it's just like they're just going, they're using gravity.

Okay. But what's so impressive in skateboarding is the tricks, is the stuff they're doing off of the pipes and the pools and all that stuff. This is the moment that we're in between. That's what I think is happening here. because this is like this middle ground where it was like, oh, skateboarding was always just like, I'm skating, like a very pedestrian thing. And then it was like, oh, we're going to do this more extreme thing of going downhill.

And then it became like the skateboarding that we know. So I feel like this is kind of like paying homage to what it was. No, I think you're right. And that is kind of what that documentary charts. I feel like I could have done the LA massacre. Wow. Same. Wow.

No way. No way. I would have flipped off into one of the things. Oh, I would have won immediately. having never set foot on a skateboard. I think I would have gotten pretty far. I mean, by the way, people were, that was what was making me laugh. So many people did seem to fall and have to drop out from just like a curb.

Like things that seemed so easy to overcome. I mean, was this an illegal event? Because it felt like the L.A. Massacre felt to me like an underground event. Like the pool thing felt like it's an underground. But there was a helicopter. Right. There was a helicopter. after there was full teams of, like, medical teams, and there was a, I thought, an LAPD or a state trooper taking the speed with one of the speed readers.

Yes. So it seemed. It felt like somebody had the hay bales. I mean, the hay bales were set up. There was some sort of official sanctioning of the L.A. massacre. But I don't know that that was true for the pool. And certainly it wasn't true for the judge. Well, the announcers coming everywhere.

And I was like, where is this? First of all, where is the announcer located? And did they install a speaker system throughout the LA massacre? Miles and miles. Miles of speakers had to go out there. I loved it. And the announcer who I do love can see every little move in that pool, but not when someone drops jacks. Like, oh, my God, nobody noticed when the guy dropped the jacks into the pool.

And nobody said, hey, there's jacks in here. Nobody after the fact said someone did this. Yeah, everything is, yeah, it's all illegal. We got to start over. Don't ever let them apply again. Which I would have been cool with if it was like, you know what? When we're not on L.A. Massacre, anything goes. Like, there are no old barred kind of thing.

But by the way, did he happen to have those jacks in his pocket? Oh, he went there to, he went there. I like that world that he just happened to have them. Like he got his wallet, his dagger, and a bunch of jacks in. because we're going to play some jacks later on. The perfect example of like it's a gang in the 80s carrying around a pocket kids game from the 20s. Like what the fuck is happening? Why is this guy in the 80s dressed like he's in the 50s carrying around toys from the 20s?

This is so weird. The one thing I thought about the announcers that made me laugh was we're watching this. And this is where the skateboarding is. just fun and it's not bad skateboarding it's like they have professionals it looks great it's so cool well the the stunt team is basically all of the bones brigade guys it is tony hawk it is like everybody in there is like one of the like some of the best skateboarders of this era well so like i'm not critiquing the skating but i am critiquing the announcer who we just watch a guy in the in the pool crash out of get really seriously injured.

And the announcer goes, well, that's going to be a tough act to follow. I'm like, no, it's not. He failed. He is injured. He did not succeed. Well, they're also doing maneuvers and tricks that are dead simple. Like, that's from an era of skateboarding that feels truly quaint. Yes.

Like, somebody does a 360 and people lose their minds. He does a slow 360. They flip it so slow. It's so crazy. This is unimpressive. When you slow it down, it's, actually looks lamer. Here's what I couldn't understand, though, about his, about Josh Burland's break, because

it did seem like he broke his arm, right? But the bandage was on his back, and there seemed to be a cut back there. Well, I think the jack got in there. I always thought that he had injury from the jacks. Like, the jacks made his board flip and then he fell on a jack. I think the back injury is from the jacks and the broken arm is from the joust. The jail is 100%. I see.

All right, of course. There were two. Because he starts wailing him in the arm, which is also so funny. It's like, if you're going to hurt a hurt the guy, wail him in the fucking legs so he can't skateboard. Galooly this guy. What are we talking about? Why are we worried about his arms? We got to fucking galooly this guy into submission.

Oh, my God. I do want to, I do want to, I know we're doing extreme sports as our summer theme, which I'm very much on board for. But this movie gave me such a powerful nostalgia for another movie that I am requesting that we include that is much more of an 80s teen summer movie, which we've discussed in the past. But let me know your thoughts on The Legend of Billy Jean. Never saw it.

I never seen it, yeah. Oh, give my brother back his bike. Wait, neither of you have seen The Legend of Billy Jean. No. No. Scott put it on the docket. This to me is a much beloved insane 80s teen movie

that is young Christian Slater, young Helen Slater. And it has the vibes of this movie. Okay, great. Man, I love this. Now listen, here's something I wasn't clear on. What happened?

Okay, by the way, just so you know, the end of the movie, I thought, oh, this is the first time we're seeing Thrashing. And that was when during the LA massacre, Hook tries to, as they're going downhill, push and, like elbow Josh Brolin out of the path. I thought, oh, that's now we're at the event. I agree with you. I do think that is meant to be, quote, unquote, thrashing. It is?

I think that's, I think that would be, that would qualify as thrashing. Like, like, if they, being aggressive, skating aggressively, skating to, to hurt. people to knock people off the course. I think that is probably... How did Hook, I think I just missed it. How did he... How did he fly off? It wasn't sense.

Sometimes they're flying off as if they hit a, like a cartoon spring. Because the way their bodies are flying, it's almost they were catapulted into the air. Yeah. They really couldn't do a good job of it. I will say, Josh Brolin clearly skateboarding in a number of these scenes.

Yes. Like visibly on a skateboard doing, not stunts, but doing skateboarding. As is this kid who's playing Hook as well. By the way, Hook originally supposed to be Johnny Depp, because Sherilyn Fenn and Johnny Depp were dating at that point. And this director was like, he had a wimpy handshake. So I was like, no, we got to cast a real guy. And I was like, oh.

I mean, wow. Because Johnny Depp would have eaten that up. And he's so good. That era of Johnny Depp, the 21 Jump Street era would have been, it would have been great. Well, that's the thing that is a bummer is I think Brolin is terrific. And not to take anything away from this actor playing hook, but he wasn't a good enough bad guy for me. I would have loved it if he had a little bit more, I don't know, mustache twirling or some, just a sense of true malice, which is hard because he's also trying to take care of. of his younger sister, which I appreciate it, you know.

I appreciate it as well, except she seems like she doesn't need taking, she doesn't need to be taking care of. She seems like she's partially because she seems to us like she's 31 years old, which she is. Correct. Like if she pulls out a two-year-old and is like, I'm also a single mom, I'm like, yeah, of course. She's like, I'm a real estate agent at Colorado Banker. I also sell Mary Kay. All of it would be in line with what I was seeing.

But she does say a thing where she goes, How do you know Mom and Dad didn't send me to check up on you? And I'm like, oh, that actually feels like, is that true? It wasn't? Nobody has parents. Nobody has parents in the whole movie. That's awesome. That's crazy.

It is a Charlie, I mean, who's watching that 13-year-old kid? He's out too late. Yeah. And so he is, Josh Boland's living in the camper van behind the house of the other kids who seem to be about his same age who don't have parents. But yet that 13 year old, I think, also lives in that house. I don't know.

This is an era where feral children were commonplace. And now, like, if you let your, if you let your 10-year-old walk 10 blocks to the store and back, you can be arrested. Oh. But this is an era when, like, kids. Kids just ran roughshod all over the world. Did we talk about this on the show? If we did, I forgive me, but there were ads.

I will not forgive you, just so you know. There were ads. When I was growing up, it goes, it's 10 p.m. Oh, yeah. Do you know where your children are? Of course. Like, that's wild. So the TV is like, hey, like people at television station are like, hey, we got to remind

these parents. They're like, it's 10. They've got to get there. The kids should be home by this. Remember, you have kids. Go find them. Like that is, so that is just speaking to how many kids were just out and not being looked after at all. At 10 p.m., that's when you have to be a parent.

Yes, that's when you need to check back in. That, I always think that that is, like, it speaks volumes because it's not a thing about the movies. It is just the way that people were living their lives. It was. Well, yeah, I mean, I didn't have to come back, like, especially over the summer, like, my parents did have to come out and get me at 10. Oh, yeah. Just find you. Just find you out and about me. Gosh, I mean, my mom would ring a bell. My mom would ring a cowbell. That's awesome. Because it could be heard longer than her shouting voice. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Meanwhile, I wrote a roller coaster in Las Vegas with one son. I had the other son waiting at the exit of the roller coaster. And he got scared that I was gone for too long. I was like, you saw us leave. Oh. Yeah, like, yeah, they would not.

I couldn't make our kids leave for that long if I try. The interesting, like a little side note, we've talked a lot about the production design, especially that house, which is amazing. Would it surprise you to know that the production designer on this movie was Twilight director Catherine Hardwick? Oh, wow. Oh, my goodness.

I love that. And to your point, she was a film director who made Lords of Dogtown. Oh, yeah. That's right. Well, I have to say she did a great job with the Dagger's House. She said Dagger's House was a legitimate Hollywood crack house, and she almost got killed every day walking to set. Oh, my God. That's so sketchy.

Yeah, that place had a, it didn't feel, yeah, it felt dangerous. It did. It didn't feel like, oh, someone created this. Like it had a, there was the texture about it where it felt like very bad things have happened here. Yeah. And like a lot of the graffiti was good. I loved to the how much, the great scene when Josh Brolin and Chrissy are, they're having like one of their dates. And he's showing her the image that he's drawn, which is what he wants to be the graphic design on his skateboard, which is a spider carrying a beautiful woman.

And it's claws. It looks like, I fucking love this. Eat this woman. And her reaction to it. And this is why this movie is special. She's like, do you want to be held like that? I'm like, whoa. What?

That's what transitions into the sex scene. Do you want to be held like that? She's asking, do you want to be the woman in this picture? Yes. And he's kind of like, yeah, I do. And his answer is tacitly yes. Interesting. It's really great.

And it's so teenage. to be like, check out this thing I drew that I'm going to put on my skateboard. And especially after you see, especially after you saw the bad version of it that he had on his skateboard earlier, which is also so, like, it didn't look good. And she's like, what is that supposed to be? A spider? Well, it made me feel, that scene especially made me feel like she was older than him and was like the aggressor. Yeah. You know, in a way that.

So that would have been a woman boy scene? Correct. Maybe what you think is a girl, a boy girl scene turns into a woman boy. Well, I would also say it's one of those rare instances of a woman boy scene where the boy becomes a man. Whoa. And so we're watching, it starts as a woman boy and then it becomes a woman man. Okay, so a boy and a girl enter and a man and a woman leave? Yeah.

Wow. Well, they do, I mean, they do have. sex. So, I mean, this is a rite of passage. Oh, my God. I was obsessed with the necklace he gave her. The fact that he was wearing, that he was wearing a necklace. It wasn't even on leather. It was on like a, it's not lanyered. It wasn't a chain. It was like a black piece of string almost, but like thick, shiny string. And I couldn't tell what it was at first. I didn't my glasses on watching. And I was like, like, oh, I guess he gave her some sort of a pet, like skull and cross, or a cross or I don't. Then to realize at a certain point, it's a skateboard. Yeah. A little baby skateboard. It's a little baby skateboard.

Because, you know, you take your interests and you take your hobbies and you take the things you care about, and then you make all charms out of them. And by the way, he's wearing it in the, he's wearing it in the beginning of the movie. He's wearing that little skateboarding. Yes, a big deal that he gives it to her. I mean, like it's his promise ring. I'm looking at a picture of it now. You're right. It is just a black piece of string, like a rope, like a shoelace if you.

Yes, yes, yes. And so he had to go find that. Oh, my God. I mean, by the way, this is a movie all about accessories because even when Hook is going to go on the L.A. Massacre, he gets that like Nintendo glove kind of spiky arm thing and everyone's gathered around. I'm like, what do we think of this? What do we think of my accessory here? guys. What do we?

Yeah. Like, this is a movie about straight up fashion. And the joust, he paints like Deadpool eyes on his eyes. Yes. Like, like big purple, weird eyes around his eyes. I would like to talk about briefly the joust. Oh, please. Let's get into it.

So I understand the idea of like, okay, we want to have a la sharks and jets. We want to have a gang fight between these two skate gangs. but mustn't they have to do it on their skateboard? So how would that work? Okay, so it's a joust. Okay, I can kind of even see that. But why wouldn't it just be like a joust? Everybody's holding like a broomstick or something to knock the person off their horse.

That's what a joust is. Right. But instead, they've got weighted punching bags. So they have to do this, which would immediately throw you off balance from skateboarding. Right. To wing around this thing. at the end of a chain. Like, that doesn't make any sense

for having to also balance. And that's not jousting. Not at all justing. Can I say, that's like having a mace or something. And the bag is full of rocks. And it's really... It is. Okay, that's what I didn't know.

And it's going to hit you in the belly. Now, when you watch this jackass recreation of it, which I got to send it to you guys because it's so funny. The, when it's actually happening in real life, when you're actually hitting someone with a bag of rocks in the belly, not only does the person getting hit fall off the skateboard, but the person wielding the the mess. Yes, of course.

Basically, you get one run at each other and you're both down. Yeah, well, because there's no way you would be able to maintain balance while swinging a heavy object that's at the end, that is itself at the end of a chain. Which is why it's so fulfilling that at the end of this is like, oh, he's off, let me just run and just jump on top and start beating the shit out of him. Like, I mean, the joust was ridiculous and there was so many people there, but that's when I was like, I love this. That's what gave me the vibes of also like a lot of like the movies we've seen, like the teen movies where it's like underground dance competition, you know?

I love it when it's the non-sanctioned version. That always has more juice to me than the official race or fight or whatever. And I think what we're led to believe is like the daggers live in unsanctioned life. I mean, yeah, they're in a crack house. but they're also, when they jump a car in the middle of traffic and, like, dent a roof, like, they are just creating havoc in, on Hollywood Boulevard. Now, they clearly shot that, I feel like, with hidden cameras, because people are like, what is going on?

Oh, yeah. The streets are clearing for them. And I was like, this is, it's dangerous. It's annoying. It's great. It's great. It really is like a jackass, the movie, or jackass TV show kind of prank. But they are so.

aggressive. I mean, all they're doing is just creating skate. Like, they're the reason why we hate skating. Yeah, they're thrashing. That's it. I guess you're right. It felt very authentically teen in those Hollywood Boulevard kind of running the streets, being, like that felt like being teenagers and running around, running amok. Now, Jason and June, you both are incredibly talented writers. You've created many, many things. I'd love to show you the pitch document that the producer of this film, used to make it. We can describe it as we see it, but Scott, can we get that up on the screen here? This is what the producer, Alan Sacks, uh, former writer for Welcome Back Carter, this is how he

pitched the movie. It is a sheet of white paper and it says, skate thrashing by Alan Sacks and Paul Brown. It says, skater die. Stay away from my sister. And it says, Primo is great, freestyle, visual as hell. It looks like a bad zine. Okay, wait a minute. I got to point something out to you that he has misspelled joust. And so I had to put a tiny you next to the... He said, Hawk challenges Corey to a joast.

And then had to insert a tiny you above the O in between the S and the O. We will have this up on our social media, but I want you... I just want everyone to take in that this is... this, I don't even know what this is. This is like, this is a zine that wouldn't even catch your attention. And visual as all hell. I mean, it's caught my attention. By the way, it worked clearly.

And I'm like, wow, what does that say over there? Oh, let me see this picture. Oh, let me, like, it's, it is catching my attention. And what is clear to me now is that that character's name is Hawk, not Hook. Oh, well, it was supposed to be, it was. was Hawk. He switched it to hook, I think, because of the Tony Hawk thing. Makes sense. Makes sense. Okay, got it. Free-st-oh, I love that. Freestyle, it's like Breakin. And they spelled Breaking without the G as well.

And I loved that moment. It was right in my notes, I wrote, it was so right on. I was like, oh, wow, they're treating, skating like the breakdance movies, where it's different crews who are going against each other. it has the same framework as a breaking movie and then they come up on the break dancers at Venice Beach and the skaters are like, breaking is a memory. I was like, fuck. By the way, what a burn. What a burn. To say something is a memory.

It's a memory. And the breakers like have to be like, yeah, you're right. They're like, wow. It's a memory. They back down immediately. A memory for wimps. Yeah, Scott says. It's crazy.

It's like to say something. things of memory. It's like you're not even saying it's good or bad. It's just gone. It's forgotten. It's forgotten. And you know what I'm now thinking of it too? There's not a lot of swearing. There's very little slurs. Yeah. There's like this is the kind of movie.

It is clean in a surprising way because these groups of teens would normally be hurling, you know, epithets and swears at each other. And it doesn't but that doesn't make the movie feel any less authentic. Well, maybe Jason, because everyone is Stone Cold White, too. I mean, this is a movie that. I guess I didn't notice that. I guess, yes, everybody, in fact, is in fact very well. Yes.

Well, when the one curse word I remember, because I was so confused, is when the little kid, who's a part of the ramp locals, is sitting in the car, when it's the VW and the back of the car, he's like, oh, this is the, I don't want to sit, ride bitch anymore. Oh, yeah. But he's, I thought riding. bitch was being in the middle. June, this is why we are married. I wrote that down to it. I was like, bitch is being in the middle. I believe that's the case as well. Yeah, you're not the backseat. But he was on the side.

Yeah. I don't know. I think in his world, bitch is just backseat. I think they just wanted kids. He's asking for a lot. Well, by the way, yeah, the kid should be in the backseat just from a legal, from like a safety standpoint. I do want to point out one thing because I'm looking at my research where I didn't

read before, sadly, that moment in the downhill massacre race, that skating legend Jesse Martinez, who is getting worked on by paramedics for real. Because when he was shooting the movie, he hurt himself and those are real paramedics setting his leg. And that whole section is based on something real because from 1975 to 1978 and Signal Hill, California near Long Beach, they would do these things where you would skateboard like around 60 miles an hour on like a 30 degree incline. And the reason why it stopped, it was because people were getting hurt a lot. I really, the documentary, and I looked it up, and the documentary this blew my mind, is from 2001. It's so old. Dogtown and Z-Boys is a terrific documentary about this era of skating.

And these characters who are true characters, you know, really great. All right. So obviously, we have an opinion about this movie. And other people might have a different one. It is now time for second opinions. All right, so there are only 546 reviews. That's actually pretty low for us on Amazon. 82% of them are five-star. There are zero one-star reviews. And I'll just start off with ones that are just incredibly loving.

one from Brett Elliott. He writes, without a doubt, the best 80s skateboarding movie ever. You can skip Lords of Dogtown. This is the quintessential depiction of skateboarding culture in 1984. I had no idea how much I would love

this movie before watching it. Just skip past the romantic relationship stuff. What? Five stars. No way. Russ says, in reality, this is a horribly made movie. But in the 80s, skateboard culture was my life.

It's still one of my favorite movies and I watch it a couple times a year. Yes, I have the standard M. Blu-ray on disc, but it's nice to have it streaming so I don't have to get off my fat ass to watch it. Five stars. Wow. And then this is what I want to end on because this is an odd one. It's a little bit of a journey, but I think it's worth it. It's by Mr. Sneaky Man. And this is actually something we found on it.

I don't like it. I already don't like it. So this is from Mr. Sneaky Man. It's written on Letterbox. You know what? It's not just that I don't like it. I don't like when you say it. I know.

I said it in a way that kind of gilded the lily. Gilded the lily? For someone who had horses, that is a chilling statement. That poor lily. I got to cut its balls off. All right. Mr. Sneaky Man writes this. I promise this story is true.

I once worked at a crazy restaurant where half the workers worship this movie. They were all skaters and they were good. They privately called themselves the daggers. They were the secret daggers. Then another crew of skaters moved in next door. They were much louder and more in your face, right? But they were also really good. And they publicly referred to themselves as the daggers.

And they even had scarification brands in the shape of daggers. on their skin to back up their claim. So the branded daggers started hanging out at the restaurant's bar after hours and shit got tense. Both dagger crews were constantly talking shit about each other behind each other's

backs. Sadly, nothing major ever came of it. Although there were a couple of minor skate slash snowboard schoolings and a metric fuck ton of mud-singing, but that's about it. Both crews ended up dissolving and scattering to the

four wins. Nevertheless, it was funny as hell to witness two groups of people who worshipped a semi-obscure movie meet each other and decide that the other group was unworthy of the recognition that the other one wanted. It was like planets colliding all over this stupid fucking movie. That is great. The reason why I believe it's true is because it goes, nothing happened. It was just people. I love that, though. That's really funny. Well, I mean, like, it really, this movie, and I haven't seen it before this, but would have really activated me as a kid. You know, this would have been the kind of, these kids had the kind of freedom that I truly desired. You know, like there are no parents in this movie at all.

And boy, did that seem like freeing. You know, I love that. Oh, now let me tell you, obviously we've joked around about some of the performances here, but there's one person who has a very unique take on his performance. And I'm just going to set up like that. Scott play that clip. I saw the movie. I went to the premiere and I was like,

you're acting as so bad. You're hurting people. You thought that. Yeah, dude. Did you think that in the Goonies? No. I didn't think I was brilliant. I thought I serviced the role.

But that I thought, and that was a great director, and he's cutting and he's using the right moments and all that kind of stuff, like they understand, that's when you work with better directors, it's not just about the performance, it's how they're cutting, what kind of music you're using,

movie editor is, all that kind of shit. And I watched Thrashing, which was obviously, it was, you know, you saw the cost. It was a tiny movie. You know, and then you see me like, no, Chrissy, come back, you know, and you're just like, oh, fuck, dude.

But do you think, but hold on, on the flip side of that, do you think that if your acting had been better or if there was a, there's no same about, The De Niro in the role, would that have saved the movie? No. No.

So you're suggesting that the movie's bad? I'm not saying anything. I'm just saying. I can't. I wasn't in it. It's terrible. It's terrible. It's so terrible and it's awesome.

This is so terrible. It's awesome. I love him. I thought he was great. By the way, I actually think he's pretty good. In the grand scheme of things? He's terrific. I mean, again, how old is he in this?

He's got 18. You know, something like that. And that's what he's giving. Like, it's perfect. Now, let me say this. If I was looking at even like one of my first roles from when I was whatever, 34, I would still be like cringing the way he's cringing. I get it.

But he does not in any way stick out in this movie more so than anybody else does. You know, he's servicing the movie. It's great. By the way, should we make a T-shirt for this movie where it's just. just the little black chain and a skateboard, like a necklace. Like, that's all it is. It looks like you're wearing it's a white shirt, but it looks like you're wearing like just a skateboard necklace. I think I would like that.

And it's thrashing. And it just says thrashing. Like all over the pocket. Oh, man. Well, let's see if we can get that going. Well, I want to say to everybody, thank you for thrashing with us. However you choose to thrash, we salute you. And Jason and June.

Always a pleasure. We have live shows coming up at Largo. At the end of this month, you can just go to HDTGM.com. That's where you can get our merch. You can get everything you want there. But if you have a correction or omission, and now, Jason, you recently retitled this section. I did? When you were hosting the... Oh, yes. Opinions and context. Yeah, I don't need to be corrected. None of us ever need to be corrected. Well, there you go. And an omission suggests that we left something out and that's wrong. So I think it is an opinion. Write in with your opinions or context. I agree with that. And if you want to leave us a voicemail, which you really love,

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You have a number one. This show has been number one on Amazon now for weeks. It's a hit. You love to hear it. Oh, so exciting. A real hit. You know what? Just because we recently, Paul, you and I went back to New York and did another installment of the Chris Getherd, guess what's in the dumpster show.

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