How Did This Get Made? - View From The Top

Episode Date: April 21, 2023

Paul, June, and Jason break down the 2003 Gwyneth Paltrow rom-com View From The Top, a movie with all the pieces to a film that works but inexplicably doesn't. They discuss Gwyneth's perplexing choice to become a pilot, Mark Ruffalo ordering "a cheese pizza with everything on it," the bonkers blooper reel, and Mike Myers' attention-stealing performance. Plus, June regales us with the tale of Paul's trashy drink order at the Lake Havasu Chili's.  Go to www.hdtgm.com for tour dates, merch, and more.Follow Paul on Letterboxd https://letterboxd.com/paulscheer/HDTGM Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: https://discord.gg/paulscheerCheck out Paul and Rob Huebel live on Twitch (https://www.twitch.tv/friendzone) every Thursday 8-10pm ESTSubscribe to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael here: listen.earwolf.com/deepdiveSubscribe to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson here: listen.earwolf.com/unspooledCheck out The Jane Club over at www.janeclub.comCheck out new HDTGM merch over at https://www.teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmWhere to Find Jason, June & Paul:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on Twitter

Stanley Kubrick made full metal jacket, but if he had the guts to tell the true story of America's militia and the aviation industry, he would have made this movie. We saw a view from the top, so you know what that means. Hello, people of Earth, and welcome to How Does This Get Made? I am Paul Shear, and today we are talking about the 2003 Gwyneth Paltrow film, a view from the top, a movie that she has said is terrible. And what do you need to know about this film? Well, it's got a bunch of celebrities in it, from Mark Rufalo, Christina Applegate, Candice Bergen, Rob Bellow, the list goes on and on, Mike Myers, and it is about a small town girl who grew up in a trailer park outside of Nevada who decides to chase her dreams into the sky and become a stewardess. That's about it. She falls in love along the way, but we'll get into it all. As soon as I introduce my two co-hosts, please welcome Jason Manzikas and June Dianne Refill. How are you both? When you started quoting Stanley Kubrick for a second, I was like, oh no, are we unspooled? Are we about to participate in unspooled? And for a real moment, the way you were setting it up about the militia and stuff, I was like, oh no, I watched the wrong movie. I for sure must have started the wrong movie.

This movie is really interesting to me because the amount of celebrities in it, like this is a heyday movie, 2003. Now, I know a big thing about this film, the reason why they say it failed at the box office was because it was supposed to come out around 9-11. And that, yes. And so they pushed it. They took out a scene of Mike Myers teaching them how to deal with terrorists, and they delayed it about two years. So this movie is two years. I mean, that is, get rid of it. I mean, I'm assuming they can't, but like, you've been given an opportunity. Get rid of it. You can't be like, we got people got to see this movie. I'm going to say something. I disagree. I enjoyed this movie. I actually thought I had seen it before because in my mind, I have this image of Gwyneth Paltrow in that flight attendants outfit with the hair pulled back and that lip. And so I have seen this before because that image is so clear to me, but I have never seen the actual movie and where it came from. You're going to give me a plane movie. You're going to give me female flight attendants. You're going to give me Candice Bergen as the ultimate female flight attendant. I was riveted. This is so interesting because I have so many, June, I love this take, I have so many of the exact points you're making in my notes. But I keep saying, why isn't this interesting? You're going to give me a movie that has all of the components that you just ran down and instead of it being a drawing me in and telling a story that I found compelling. At the end of the day, I kept wondering, what is this movie about? What does Gwyneth Paltrow's character want? It reminded me of watching. It gave me the same unease as watching. What was the movie we did with Jude Law and was it Gretchen Mall where he falls in love with her as a baby?

Oh, gosh. And then he comes back. This is so much better than that, Jason. It felt like the two of them. This is Gwyneth Paltrow and Christina Applegate on screen together. Oh, and Candice Bergen. And they have a fight scene in which Gwyneth Paltrow's face is like thrown, like pushed into a loaf of bread. Like I was screaming on delight. It's bad.

It is. This movie is, John Polito's in this movie, George Kennedy's in this movie. I don't understand. We haven't even mentioned Mike Myers. I don't understand what is happening. The only thing wrong with this movie is Mike Myers. Okay. Well, otherwise, okay. Hold on. I want to say a couple of things there. First of all, I also share an opinion with Jason that the sum total of its parts don't make sense.

And I would say that it kind of is perfectly encapsulated in a moment where Mark Ruffalo, who's great in this movie and in a different movie, everyone seems to be in a different movie. That may be the issue. No one is all over the place because there's a part in the movie where Mark orders a small... Mark. Mark. Are you guys like best friends? I'm just going to say Mark.

Mark. You and Mark worked with him and I don't know that. Mark and Mark. Mark and Mark. Can I say his whole name? The rough man. You have to. The rough dog.

So, rough dog says, I'll have a small cheese pizza with everything on it. And that, to me, is something that underscores what's wrong with the movie. Because a small cheese pizza with everything on it is no longer a small cheese pizza. It's a pizza with everything on it. Say all of a small pizza with everything on it. And I feel like... Oh, wow. What is he saying?

Okay. Now, this is something I'd like to explore. What? I'm saying that the awkwardness of that order. The awkwardness of that order is the underlying reason why this movie doesn't work. Because it doesn't feel like it's from this planet. Please don't be on my side. Paul.

You just own him. I don't know that I want to mind her after that. I was with you until you... Small cheese pizza. This is your linchpin of your theory as to why the movie doesn't work? It is simply... Small cheese pizza with everything on it. It's slightly off.

It's slightly off, right? You would never say... You think he should have said, I would like a small everything pizza? Yeah. But that's what I'm saying. It's just... It's just... I don't think you say that.

You never say I'd have a cheese pizza. Yeah. You're right in the sense that you don't order the base level cheese pizza and then start adding toppings. You order... I'll have a pizza... You don't say I'll have a cheese pizza with pepperoni. You say... Pepperoni pizza.

Let's get a pepperoni. And what I'm saying is that when you say it like that, that's what this movie feels like. It just doesn't know exactly what it is in a way. I don't feel like... Yes, I agree with you. What you're saying is right. I agree. You're back in.

You're back in. Okay. Because what you're speaking to is true, which is none of the people feel like they know each other at all. They have any intimate relationship, even like Ruffalo and his whole family when they go to Christmas at his family's house. Or... I thought for a second that scene was going to turn into a murder mystery. Well, that's the thing. It's like someone's going to murder someone else.

Give me anything with stakes. I would love it. Kill the grandma. When Mark Ruffalo shows up, when Rough Dog shows up, the movie changes into this. I actually like their connection. I like this romance. I did too. But before it, I'm like, is this dumb and dumber?

I don't know because... I thought it was giving Romeo and Michelle. I thought so too. I thought so too. But without being fun. Right. To me, the thing was, if it had been a flight attendant movie that has kind of almost like a sports movie, because they have training montages, if it had had the structure of a sports movie where they have to go through the training and be the best to get a placement,

and their buddies and Candice Bergen is the, you know, the idol of everybody that they're looking to, I would have loved it. But then it wants to be a rom-com and it wants to also just be about seemingly Gwyneth Paltrow alone. Well, okay. Well, you're totally right. Like, I'm not going to sit here today, not on this day, and to be either. Like, yeah, it's a mess, you know? Yeah. Okay.

Well, how about this? Fun. Which I get. I really enjoyed it. It goes down easy. I really love watching Gwyneth Paltrow. I enjoyed looking at her. I loved.

Well, but that was part of my problem, which was, it is like so immediate from the jump, that she is like so next level beautiful that I couldn't understand why she, what was holding, what was holding her character? What did she want and what was holding her back? Well, I mean, I took her to Paris for the class. Oh, babe. I mean, here's what I'll say, when it starts off to, you cut to this little girl in a trailer park and at like, she seems five or six in that opening and she goes, I always wanted

to leave here. Can you imagine a five-year-old being like, I need to get out of my home? I love that though. I do. I'm like on board for that as a drive, as a, because her childhood was miserable. And I liked a lot of the, and I think, I think that only off by a matter of degrees. Yes. You know what I mean?

I think I would feel very similar to you, June, very similar because, and I think part of my frustration with the movie was, was that it was putting forth so many good potential movies. Yeah. So many good potential elements. I mean, the ensemble, as we've said, is like stacked. We haven't even talked about like, Josh Maline is in this, you know, like. Josh Maline, Josh Maline, Will Bailey from the West Wing.

We see you in here. Um, Stacey Dash. Oh, yes. Great. Thank you. Unused. Stacey Dash brought me that, like, oh, is this, bring it on. It just didn't have a tone because when Mike Myers comes on and Mike Myers, we should do

an entire last looks episode with all three of us. That's just about the blooper reel. Oh, oh my God. I mean, well, here's what I'll say. What is so odd about her? They look like they had a great time. They did have, I mean, they look, they did a dance number, which you always know. You know it's a good movie.

But why wasn't that dance number in the movie? Because I feel like that was for the credits. Well, I think they needed both the bloopers and the dance number to make it long enough to qualify as a movie. I'll tell you this much. Just, we were asking about why is this cast so good. I know for a fact, this movie is a Miramax movie. So I know for a fact.

I know and I thought a lot about that while watching it. Like the minute that that credit came up at the top, I was like, she pushed on my spine and knowing Gwyneth was in this, I was like, did he fucking make her do this? Well, like my, my answer to that is this. I have done a Miramax movie and I knew that there's a, there's one or two very big guest stars in the movie that I did. And the reason that I heard was, uh, like, uh, like cameos and, um, and the thing that I heard was Miramax did this kind of like grab of people and they forced them into these

movies because it was like, oh, we had you for this movie, but you didn't ever make it. So now I'm going to pull you in here. So this movie feels to me like we're, we're calling in every one of our favors. It's like, you're in, you're in. This movie felt like a Harvey special. Like I'm going to make everybody do this. Yes. And I don't know what, but I can't, what I can't figure out is why, why, like, why did

this seem like a good, a good bet? I will say something like I also, you know, I do think that there's something, and of course, yeah, there's a better movie in here. And, you know, I was thinking about watching it, like there is a narrative in here about women, especially at a certain time, having really only two professions that were available, you know, to become a flight attendant was like total access and freedom for a lot of women. And, um, you know, there is a, there is a powerful story in here lost somewhere and the

deep recesses of this movie, do you think it was a drama that they tried to make? Like, do you think that that's it's, I think, yeah, making it a light comedy seems weird. Like it seems like Romeo. It was broad as hell at certain points, but at certain points, it's like super grounded. It's super grounded. It's certain points. It's like, there are moments in here where I'm like, they are playing this scene and maybe this is Gwyneth Paltrow because I actually, I like Gwyneth Paltrow.

I'm on board. I think that she can do comedy. I feel like I would have liked to have seen the Romeo and Michelle version of this, um, but there are moments where they play like her stealing the soap when Christina Applegate steals the soap. Like that's played too real in a way. Like when I think about scenes in Dumb and Dumber, there's something it's like, well, this is comedic, but maybe it's the actresses are, are bringing like too much depth to

this. Well, it's unclear. This feels also to me like what, and what did you say, 2002? What is it? Oh, no, it's great. Well, it was going to come out in 2011. So it's probably a 2001 shot movie. So you think about it like this.

You think about Romeo and Michelle come out in 97, right? So you feel like, okay, let's get this going. And it feels like it's in the zeitgeist to be like, we'll make, we'll make something like that. But this feels a little bit more like, um, more like the indie mook, indie like Miramax. It's frankly, it feels like a Miramax comedy from that time that weren't very funny necessarily. Like it feels like an indie comedy that has like a lot of frankly, just dramatic actors. And then here we have just Mike Myers as, but what if Mike Myers was doing all this

nonsense? And there's a version of this movie where I'm like, oh, this could have been an SNL movie. And it would have been or like a tonally more similar to Romeo and Michelle, but it is what we're talking about. But like an SNL movie where it's like actually like broader characters who are leaning into the broad, oh yeah, leaning into the broad elements of it, rather than, I felt like they kept trying to ground it and then do big broad bits. And I couldn't tell, I guess what the tone was.

I felt like this was sort of a response to the success of Legally Blonde, like, you know, of this character who is open-hearted and wants, um, you know, this thing, but is a good person and a super type A and really, you know, studious and earnest and smart. But the difference is like Legally Blonde, the tone is so clear. And her drive is as well, like her goals, her, her, and each threshold is understood and met. It's like structurally helping. I mean, this is the thing.

Her first flight, she's never been on a flight. The way that she freaks out on that flight, that is pure dumb and dumber. Like that's not real. And it's funny. That's funny. I laughed really hard. That's a great beat. That's like, I don't want to forget these beats.

These beats are funny. I love that. I'm going into that loaf of bread. Like, I laughed so hard when she was screaming, we're going to crash and just, even the shot of her, just simply the composition of that shot where she's holding onto the chairs screaming for her life. No, that was quite funny. No.

I agree. I think that was very funny. And I think like, but then the button to that broad comedy bit is Rob Lowe coming back to give like a heartfelt, hey, can you okay speech? How you doing? I was terrible. I couldn't walk. I spilled the coffee.

Hey. I totally freaked out the passengers. It wasn't exactly a frozen lake up there. Treblance is tough. You'll get the hang of it. Am I going to get fired? I'm going to get fired. Nobody's getting fired.

Really? You're going to be a pro. You're going places. You think? I'm a pilot. It's my job to know where people are going. And I was like, oh, wait, is this the movie or is that other scene the movie? And I think it wants to have it both ways.

But the reality is like, you can't, I don't think you can have Rob Lowe in that single scene and then never return again. I was like, I don't understand. I thought they were going to be, you're going to set something. You can't have Rob Lowe play. Jason and Paul that he crashed. Oh yeah. He died.

Wow. Another flight. He doesn't have a great record. I think he was kidding with that, but I would believe it. I mean, I mean, that's what, because that's the thing is like, they set up this airline in act one that she works for like the down and dirty grungy one. Yeah. The airline runs out of a trailer.

It's disgusting. Like that. I was like, okay, this is a funny, broad comic. I like that. But then she shows up to, she gets out of that world almost immediately. And then there's so many things about this movie that I know here is what I'll say. I believe the person playing the tone perfectly, Candice Bergen, like Candice Bergen is like Kelly Preston.

Kelly Preston knows the assignment. Christina Applegate. Oh yes. Obviously Christina Applegate. Here's what I think is like, I feel like they, I think that's Gwyneth Paltrow and Christina Applegate are very funny and good and killing it. But I feel like tonally it's all over the place. And I feel like they're in one movie.

Candice Bergen is in one movie. Mike Myers is in a movie that's even more heightened than the Dumb and Dumber movie. I think it's a really, I think very difficult and it's hard to watch. I think is what's creating a bit of the dissonance in watching it for me was that I think Gwyneth Paltrow is a fantastic actor and is electric to watch. Always has been, I'm always a fan. But in this movie, she is able to do the broad physical comedic stuff with Christina Applegate when called upon.

And that's a movie I would watch like a Romeo and Michelle's, but then the movie also seems to want us to have an investment in her relationship with the absolutely dead normal Mark Ruffalo. He is, he is a normal guy in a normal rom-com, not heightened, not broad. Mark Ruffalo is playing the 2000 like Miramax romance. Yeah, Rom-com. Like he's playing that and I guess maybe that's a role that women have often been assigned in a comedy, but he's even laughing at her. He just has a dream and like what we understand his dream to be is he was going to be

going to be a top lawyer at one of the biggest firms. And he's like, I don't want to do that. I don't want to like waste my life. I want to go eat great food. I want to travel the world. But I've been in like Havasu. There's no good food to be had there. There's no real traveling the world.

It's the most landlocked place you could possibly get. It's where you go when actually like all your dreams have died. I will tell you this and I have made it. Am I wrong Paul? All those dreams are at the bottom of the lake. I will say this and I may have said this in the podcast before. When June came to visit me in Lake Havasu, she said to me, point blank, you're hanging out with trash.

You're becoming trash. It is that is because when I went to Lake Havasu, Paul had been there for about five weeks and he, we went out to dinner and he immediately ordered as though I would like as though it was the most normal thing in the world, a blue lagoon, like a giant blue frozen drink. Was I eating at Chili's six to seven days a week? Yeah. I was eating at Chili's six to seven days.

It is very distressing. And I saw you ordered that drink like what? Yeah. What? We get blue. It's a cocktail. What? And I was like, that's the most disgusting thing I've ever seen.

Like it was very. And June, I want to, I just want to clarify something that you said here. It wasn't frozen. It was just a giant goblet of blue liquid. It was not. It didn't even have the. It didn't even have the. Right.

It wasn't frozen. It didn't even have the respect of being frozen. It was like. I just remember looking around that restaurant and being like every single person here is on mess. Maybe including Paul. Paul, you came to visit Paul on set and all of his teeth had fallen out. Listen, I, I definitely didn't understand Mark Ruffalo's journey because he.

Yeah. I don't know what he was doing in this different movie that we frankly don't care about. But what was his job on the lake? Okay. I think I can, I can break down a little bit. So he is, he was in law school and he was like one semester away from graduating law school and he dropped out and ended up on this as a law enforcement officer, like whatever water.

I can't remember what his title is enforcement officer, you know, that is some whatever. So then blah, blah, blah. And then later when we meet up with him, he's re-enrolled in law school and then becomes a lawyer. So by the end of the movie, he's a lawyer in Cleveland and that is his life. What type of law does he practice? You know, he gets hired at that firm that she sees announced in the newspaper. Yes.

It looked like a, it looked like a national paper too. A lot of newspapers, like it had to be a national paper. I don't, she's, she's not in Cleveland. I don't think. Yeah. No, she's reading. His hiring is a, at a Cleveland law firm is announced in like the Wall Street Journal. Here's what I found fascinating about the movie is they present a world in which

international first class flight attendants. And I know there's, there's a big difference between serving like, you know, us in economy and serving people in first class. But at the same time, I'm like, a job is a job is a job. And also is the pay difference that much where these women who are working international first class flights can buy Chanel and Louis Vuitton and all of these luxury items? Like how much are they making? It's the crazy part of this.

You're not, you don't become as wealthy as the class that you're serving. Like that's what this movie is positive. Well, that's what I did. And then, and that's what was confusing to me is like it, even if you're serving a bolognese sandwich or you're serving, you know, in filet mignon, like you're still serving food. You're, you don't get to eat that food as I guess what I'm saying. So I believe the, I believe the movie is, is suggesting a bit of magical thinking in a way, which is once she gets her internet, once she gets her, like her destiny, because the movie

keeps coming back to it's your destiny, it's your destiny. And I kept being like, is there like a, some sort of magical element to this movie? I don't quite get it. It's your destiny. You have to international to Paris to blah, blah, blah. It's almost then seems to suggest like she is granted access to absolute luxury. Her clothes change. She has a beautiful New York city apartment.

Look at Candice Bergen's closet. Yeah. Everything seems to be like, she no longer seems to be in a job that is frankly a grind. Like I, she still has to deal with the fucking maniacs on an airplane. Well, listen, I think they've gotten so, you know, we've gotten so much worse there. I do think that plane travel used to be a bit more civilized. But that's why I feel like if you were saying, that's what I was just going to say. You said this earlier, June, because it seems as though this movie could have been made in

the 60s or 70s. And I would understand a little bit more what it was about. Yes. It would make more sense. Yeah. Like that TV show Pan Am. Exactly. Thank you.

Perfect. That's not what this was. This is a movie that takes place here in the 2000s. It's not... Early on. Early on. This is a movie where Hooters is referenced. Gwyneth Paltrow is living on Fifth Avenue.

Yeah. Living on Fifth Avenue in a very, again, a very oddly decorated apartment. Oh my God. But it painted like blood red. Blood red in the bed is like in the center of the room, which I would imagine is awkward when you have guests over. Just to be like, the bed is where the couch might be. It seems a little odd.

But her whole... But then also, she's having all this success all this time, but she's not happy, right? That's what we know. That's what we're following. And we don't know... I mean, we didn't even talk about the twist. The big, giant twist of this whole movie is we said Gwyneth Paltrow going through this rigorous training.

This is what I was going back to, this Kubrick-level style training. And I just felt like when she was put there, I really... I mean, did you guys fall for it? Did you think that Mike Myers had it out for her? Mike Myers in his lazy eye. And we didn't even talk about Mike Myers yet. Because Mike Myers is... And I know what you've been saying is on a different plane, but Mike...

He's on a literal different plane. He is on a... I mean, Mike Myers, I feel like they let him run ragged. Oh, and it's clear in the bloopers that they're just being like... They're letting him do whatever. He's got a cross-eye for the entire film, which I... Pain me to watch because I knew that he was holding it in or making it... I thought it might be a contact.

I think it was a... Oh, okay. All right. I don't even know how you would do... I feel like Mike Myers might have that skill set. He might have that cross. Maybe, but that's quite a cross. I could believe that he spent like three years from the ages of nine to 12 just learning how to do that.

That to me is like, oh, it made my dad laugh. And then that was his whole thing. And when he gets into the screen and he starts... He is not only... He is not only the face of royalty airlines. He is the trainer of royalty airlines. He's the interviewer of royalty airlines. Like at every step of the way, he is...

He is like the woman who was... The vulvania in that movie who was open... Who was the bouncer. Who was the... The bartender. You give her the password. She was then the bartender at the sex club in that movie. Yeah, so he's doing everything.

There's no other employee that we see from Morrell Airlines or royalty airlines besides Mike Myers. He is bringing these people in. They're in a classroom setting. They're on a plane setting. You're right, though. There's no other people in the world and their entire graduating class of flight attendants to work... Again, it's like a school movie for this portion of it. There's only like 15 of them.

Must there be necessary like hundreds and hundreds of new employees to train and get ready for what is... I wonder though, because it sounds like it's just a sweet gig that people ever retire. Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean clearly Candice Bergen. And by the way, he's just as successful as Candice Bergen because he also wrote a book. He has an audiobook and an actual book. Candice Bergen has a book. That whole idea that Candice Bergen is the world's most famous flight attendant.

That does make me laugh, too. I don't even understand how you would get that. Again, that to me feels like... If that to me feels like... Paul, I feel like if you get to the note section and you're like, this is based on a book written in 1967 that they modernized into... I would believe that there was a woman who is the most famous flight attendant who would be like on the Merv Griffin show or the Tonight Show as a guest or something like that. But now I just don't think that's true, you know? And I also think right now, and correct me if I'm wrong, I'm certainly have flight attendants in the audience.

Isn't it a job that is like rife with problematic situations throughout the lifespan of this job with... Weren't women subjected to weight requirements and all sorts of horrible stuff inside of this industry? Their hair has to be up. I mean, by the way, she shows up... Not anymore, but at one point. No, no, I'm saying, yeah, I'm saying in the past. In the world of them? Yes.

In the world of the movie. In the world of the movie, she puts her hair up for the interview to then go to the bathroom to have her hair down to get on the plane to have her hair up. Then when she freaks out on the plane, it goes back. That hair is going up and down like an elevator. I feel like it's like, I don't even understand. Like, I feel like there was a lot of reshoots here too. One thing, Molly found a piece of information that Mike Myers has two hair people for this movie and Gwyneth Paltrow, one. Amazing.

Amazing. Now, was his story that he could... So he couldn't be a flight attendant? Yes, because he had the... Because of his eye? Or he couldn't be a pilot? No, I think flight attendant. This other thing about like his...

Why couldn't he be a flight attendant because of his lazy eye? I guess because he couldn't see things. Because sometimes you have to put every document right up to his eye to see it. Which... Did I laugh when he said, you know, you're landing on runway six and then corrected himself and said, nah, nah. Wait, was that in the movie or is that just in... That's in the bloopers. That's in the bloopers.

But I did laugh. Your big laugh that you just quoted is from the bloopers. Right. And in... Didn't make it to the movie. And by the way, that sequence which he is in a... It's like this movie has... Like air traffic control.

Yes. Which is the shittiest set of all time. Like this is a... It's like airplane. It looks like airplane. It looks like a student production of airplane. Like, we'll make our version of that. And it's so bad.

And then what he does, and the reason why it's not in the movie obviously, is because he crashes a plane and then he calms down by ringing the bell. I just want to go back to Mark Blukas, who... Because this movie I don't think understands jobs. Because Gwyneth Paltrow gets a job at Big Lots. And she is a bespoke luggage salesperson. I think she's just in the luggage department. She's in the luggage department. But are you a sign?

Mark Blukas leaves her for someone from the barbecue department? But this is what I'm saying. I've been to Target. I've been to Big Lots. I don't think that they have people that are just working like the luggage... Like you don't go to... Like, oh, I need to go to... I need to talk to a luggage expert at Big Lots.

At Big Lots, it's like, that bag is about the size that I need it to be. That's it. Like, she's showing off this bag. It's like she's doing a Vitamix demonstration at Costco. No, I agree. And that's... Okay, so that's another perfect element of the weird dissonance of this movie, which is it purports to be showing you like regular people's ordinary lives. Yes.

And they're not right. It's like a movie that's about the working class that's just written by rich people being like, I think this is what they do. I don't know. Maybe she's the luggage salesperson at the Big Lots store. That's her job. And then Mark... Wait, what? And then Mark Blukas is like, I got a promotion and I'm moving into a different Big Lots. And I can't take you with me to the next Big Lots.

Like, as if he owns Big Lots. It's like, no, you're just... I think I just wanted to break up with her. Yeah, that was... He was just trying to dump her. Oh, man. I don't even understand why he was trying to dump her. I don't get it.

I also don't get... I don't understand why he's trying to dump her. I'm like, she's literally the most beautiful woman you'll ever see in your entire life. And she couldn't be letting her. That was not the movie. You know? The movie? Gueneth Paltrow is stunningly gorgeous from beginning to end.

She has no glow-up whatsoever in her journey. No. She's just absolutely like a smoke show throughout. I don't think that was anyone's fault, though. You know, you can't put her on screen. I think it's tough. And yeah, it's just like... I think they made some attempts, but yeah, it just doesn't work.

I thought this is interesting too, which we haven't even talked about, is like the fact that Christmas stakes are sort of inserted into the movie so haphazardly. Like, at one point, I'm like, is this a Christmas film? And then at the third act of the movie, she's racing to Mark Ruffalo to get to him, I think, on Christmas Eve. Well, I think it's the day after Christmas. And they're ticking down the ornaments. Why wasn't she wearing that red sweater though?

They're ticking down the ornaments the day after. This family doesn't fuck around. They're wearing red sweaters on Christmas the day after. It's like, it's done. We're gone. We're done. Everyone's out of the house. Day after is way too quick.

I think that's insane. I think it's nuts. I think that... It's absolutely nuts to do day after. Mark Ruffalo and her left the night of Christmas, be like, we got to get out of here. We're out. We're out. We took the family picture.

We're gone. Also, why didn't she put the red sweater they gave her to be wearing the red sweater in the picture? They just gave it to you. I'll never know. Put it on. I think, put it on for that picture. And that family was nice to her, right?

I think a part of her. Incredible. I think the family was lovely. I think a part of her thought. I can't. I'm not ready for this red sweater. That's what I think, too. But it made those things...

It would have made a beautiful twist if she wore the sweater after. If she showed up. If she showed up in the sweater. I thought she was going to show up in the red sweater, but she did not. If this person who dumped me and then doesn't call but shows up at Christmas wearing the sweater, I would be like, you psycho. Get out of here. That's what I wrote.

I was like, she flies this 12-hour flight, all this hubbub to get back to him. It's 2003. She can call him. She can call him and say, hey, can I talk to you? Can we have an adult conversation? But the movie wants to be romance, but it's not. And it's not also because we haven't felt a connection really to Christmas. If it was like, every Christmas is my whole thing.

I just hate being alone on Christmas. I want to find something. That's never... But when, for example, when she goes to her friends for Christmas, her friend invites her in New York to Brooklyn to Christmas, right? And it's like, whose house is this? Who are all these people? Make them take a family picture that she sees and it reminds her of the family she could

have been a part of. And that's... Put her in the red sweater then. Yes. Give something. Put her in the red sweater. I don't know. Well, so she finally does catch up with him.

Wait. Can you just talk about when she first comes into the house? I don't know. Okay. So she... But with the grandmother? Yes. She first knocks on the door.

And it's not even his house. It's the family house. She opens the door, walks in bold, you know, bold move, and then has this monologue. Again, remember the Jude Law Gretchen Maul movie? It's kind of the same. Almost the same house. Yeah. Go ahead.

Sorry. And has this monologue about the mistakes that she made. And to this woman who is completely ignoring her, and I'm like, okay, here's the funny thing. She's going to turn around and, you know, say, oh, I have my, I didn't put my hearing aid in. I didn't do anything. There's a joke here.

This is a funny setup because she's having this heartfelt monologue. And no. I don't even know. The old woman keeps looking at her, but then just going back to her chore of taking slowly all of the elements, all of the ornaments rather off of the Christmas tree. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

So you're right. Well, because that's what the, the visual language of the movie is telling us there's a joke here. Yes. But there isn't. Wow. Yeah, there isn't. Well, when she finally gets to Mark, she does tell him that, you know, she thought she

wanted this. She really wanted him. She understands that now. And then they get back together. Now we also haven't even talked about when he said that he had a school partner, which is a phrase I've never heard before. But again, she's pizza with everything on it. School partner is just a brand new idea that they're not study partner school partner.

Who said that? And you know, you know, Mark Ruffalo was like, it's weird. Nobody calls this a school partner, but we need the party. We need partner. So can I just say my project partner? We're working on a project. You know, like my school, anyway, short. She makes us, you know, they get back together and she says, you're essentially like you're

my destiny, right? And this is my destiny. Cut to. He's like, I don't want you. He's like, I don't want you. He's like, I don't want you to not do the thing that you want to do. Yeah, I don't want to ground you basically here in Cleveland. Overlapped with a voiceover before we see her.

Sally had said that life is a series of arrivals and departures, but I learned there is more than one way to spread your wings. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Cleveland's Hopkins International Airport. Please keep your seatbelts fastened until we reach the gate. We know you have a choice when you travel and we thank you for choosing Royalty Express. If this is just a stopover for you, we do wish you a safe and pleasant continuation of your journey. And if Cleveland is your final destination, welcome home.

This is interesting because I didn't, it didn't sound like her voice. Well, you're about to realize why. But I genuinely was like, I just was very confused about whose voice it is and, and the voice is saying something along the lines of like, we know you have several options when it comes to travel, but we're going to get you there safely, blah, blah, blah. Please listen to your, whatever it says, some sort of flight announcement. And then we slow, the camera slowly finds its way into the cockpit. The camera has been tracking through the airplane on one of her flights.

Yes, we're seeing other, a flight attendant looks a lot like her who's sitting down, you know, getting into her jump seat. And then we see the co-pilot as we head into the, to the little crew area, the, the cabin, the pilot's cabin. And then we see the head pilot turn around, I didn't go in to talk to her. Now was she giving that monologue to the airplane? Yes. Yes.

I don't get what this movie is about. That felt like, that really felt like a reshoot. That felt like, I don't know, the end's not working. What if she becomes a pilot? Like the training to become a pilot seems really intense. Yeah. Like she should be much older. But it seems as though she's a pilot like six months later.

Yes. Like she would have had, she would, in order to become like a, like commercial airline pilot, she would have had to go through like, I don't know, six years. I don't know. Like, you know, they make it seem like it's like a talent agency, like you work in the mail room and then you go to a system and then you go to, it's like, no, it's a completely different. You did do first class international.

You could do military. No, you did first class international. We'll get you behind it. We'll get, we'll get you as co-pilot first for a couple of weeks and then we'll switch over to pilot. And she might even look out the window. But why did she want to do this? What does this change for her and the relationship with Mark?

Why is her want different now? Okay, by the way, to learn to be a pilot, to learn to be a pilot, it takes six to twelve months with a minimum of 40 logged flying hours. Oh, that's not fine. You must get certified as a pilot. Wait, that's, that's not to be a commercial airline pilot. That might be for like a Cessna. It says FAA requires 1500 hours to fly as an airline pilot, that's what I felt like

was true. Yes. 1500 hours. So she'd have to be clocking that. That's two years. She's got to clock that by herself. Yeah. No, that seems, this, I mean, well, I mean, that, but again, this movie really, if the

movie was more fun and fantastical, I genuinely wouldn't care. I wouldn't be poking at these, but the movie also wants to exist in the logical world where she wants to settle down in Cleveland with, it's a love story at the end. It's not this fun in the sky kind of broad comedy at the end, except that at the very end she has the glasses done like this and gives us a wink to the camera. She gives a wink to the camera at the end of the movie. Can you believe this? Can you believe this?

Well, we don't know what we're supposed to believe. Like it seems like this, I'm not, I don't know what has changed for her. Correct? Nothing. Correct? Because here's the thing. At the end of the movie, she's now, she's now decided I'm going to be in love. She's decided.

And so the cut to the future isn't now they have a beautiful loving family, but she still gets to do what she loves. The cut to the future is guess what, now she's a pilot. Well, but to June's point, so to June's point, and this goes back to what we were saying about big lots, this movie posits that when you are a pilot, you have way more control over your schedule versus, listen, which may be true to us. I'm sure that is probably true. I think you work for an airline.

I think you work. I don't think that anyone is, I don't think that you get the pick. I'll tell you what I think. This is what I think. I think it is just craven movie nonsense. I think they were like, well, it's not enough. We've already shown that she doesn't want to be a flight attendant who works out of Cleveland.

And it's not enough that she goes back to Cleveland to choose the guy because that's giving up on her dreams. So the movie has to end with an elevated dream come true for her professionally. So the only thing that's available is she becomes a pilot is it might as well have been in the future. She's the drummer for Motley Crew. It doesn't make any difference. And just so you know too, a pilot has to bid for his or her schedule using a company system.

So there's not like, they're just saying, well, I hope I'd like to get this day off or that day off. Do you think that this movie is like, hey, America, get back in the sky? Well, I mean, this... We know shit's been crazy the last few years since September 11th. You know what? Here's a movie that I feel good about getting back in the sky again. All right.

I mean, flight attendants and pilots essentially pick their schedules the same exact way. You know, so there's no freedom that she's getting by being a pilot more than she's just a pilot. I agree. It makes... It makes... It introduces new problems rather than answering any questions. It is...

Yeah, because... It's creating a nightmare. But she just wants to be... unless she could work anywhere... I don't know. I do not know. I think I'd like to stay on with the two of you as long as possible for us to figure it out. Well, look, while we think about it a little bit more, let's just take a look and go a

deep dive into some second opinions. All right, these are second opinions that are culled from Amazon. These are five-star reviews. Now, this movie is pretty well reviewed here. It has an average of 4.6 out of five stars. It has a 1,389 total reviews. Like I said, 78% are five stars. And I want to read you some of these.

They all are pretty wonderful. Amanda Diane Standish writes, great movie. It was so true to life. It was astounding. Five stars. And now we're getting into this zone. School Mom writes, very cute, surprisingly accurate. If you do the research, you will find that this movie does the exact same training that

stewardesses do online. Just ask your YouTube stewardess. So yes, there are required bikini scenes. And she moves up from the tiny town in the trailer park where she was a child in her small town to discover who she can be as an adult, charming and engaging characters. I watched together with my daughters who are possibly interested in becoming an airline attendant. There are a few well-known actors and actresses, not bad.

It's a mix of a lot of different things. And then School Mom goes on to say, she finishes the review, but then comes back and edits and says, you don't think about the stewardesses as much more than a glorified waitress, but she is actually responsible for your life in an emergency and must be somewhat athletic, plant and super patient with the passengers, five stars. And then Christine K. Mitchell writes, I love this movie because it gives me a good idea about becoming a flight attendant. I chose this movie because I wanted to know what a flight attendant has to go through.

I'm really looking forward to becoming a flight attendant one day, five stars. Oh, I'd like to hear a follow-up. And then this is my favorite one here from Shirley. This movie makes me laugh. I don't know what it is. Maybe it's because I'm born in Cleveland, five stars. So this is Cleveland-based humor? This is good for people if you're from Cleveland, you'll like it more.

Oh my gosh. So people like this movie. I mean, you know, I feel like this is a movie built for cable in the sense that if whenever you tune into it, it's a different movie. So if you get up to go to the bathroom and you come back, you're like, oh, what's this movie on now? It's as if it's a montage of a lot of different movies. I think it's a built-for-TV movie.

Yeah, I was going to say it feels to me like a movie that kind of just doesn't get made anymore, where they like force a bunch of people to make a movie against their will, who are somehow tied to or tethered to a studio. And yet they did seem to be having a lot of fun in those bloopers. Now, something happened in those bloopers, which I really upset me, which was Mike Meyers scolding Gwyneth Paltrow for laughing and I just gave me a little, yeah, it made me feel bad. It made me very uncomfortable.

Don't do that. Don't do that. It made me very uncomfortable. Actually, let's play that clip. That is Bull-S. Do you want to know what's Bull-S accent? You can't keep laughing at that. That's evil.

I'll get it. I'll get it. The bloopers are 90% Mike Meyers, just riffing and doing bits. And frankly, to watch it, I was like, this is too much. This must have been annoying. I know. And I'm also like, there's this sense from the bloopers, like the filmmakers are like, we know what you loved about the movie and we know what you didn't get enough of.

And then they added a dancing. This is for you. This is for you guys. And this is like something about Mary's special. Like something about Mary started this idea of like, we'll have the whole cast dance at the end. It's going to be in Greece, I guess, you know, to a certain degree, Greece is a musical, at least.

It also felt to me like Mike Meyers, as we said earlier, was in a different movie. And frankly, I think that would have been a more Romy and Michelle's style movie. And as a result, because he's the only person executing that tone, it just feels wildly out of place. And now in 2023, like deeply inappropriate. Well, also, Josh Molina did say once Mike Meyers came aboard the film, it amped up the tone in a way that was unexpected because I think he had to answer to playing a gay character and Molina.

Molina. Yes, Josh Molina. Yes. Like, well, you know, once Mike Meyers came in, it really, it kind of put the balance of the film off-kilter a bit. So I buy that. No, it's too much. Just so you guys know, they did cut out cameos by Robert Stack and Regis Philbin, which

I don't know why they were not in there. The cameo by George Kennedy was a tip of the hat to the film airport. Yeah. Did you notice that when she's on a date with Ruffalo, he says to her, apropos of nothing, don't run with scissors, which is the name of another Gwyneth Paltrow movie. Oh, interesting. Is he also on that? There's a couple of weird, there's just weird moments in Paul and Mike, I'm kind of with

you now that she's Pete's stuff and then there's that moment also where he finds her in Cleveland and he's like, can I take this chair? And she says, sure, I'm not looking up and then he goes to pull it. The one she's on. Out underneath her. Oh, oh, it was so strange. Yeah. Because that seemed like something like, well, it felt like they thought, okay, so that's

a great example. June, thank you. The chair is a great example of things I believe the movie believes are jokes. And they are not. Well, that. Oh, really? I thought the movie was like, this is, to me, I got the sense that this is a movie written by someone who has like never dated dated and was like, this is a cute way to interact

with someone. Yeah. I know what you're saying. I felt like the movie, I feel like stuff like, I felt like there was a bunch of stuff that to me feels like it was, there was a pass on the draft. Maybe kind of what you're saying, Paul, that is related to Romeo and Michelle's or something about Mary or where they were like, let's do a pass and just put some goofs in. Yes.

Let's put a goofs in to a script that maybe previously was much more about a, you know, trailer park child, unwant miserable childhood, turns into exploring the world, reaching your destiny, maybe something that wasn't as broad and that there was a pass that put in broad jokes, hired Mike Myers, and the movie just, it becomes like a jumble of tones and weird plot digressions. Yes. You know, and I'll say this much, what could have been Gwyneth Paltrow also in a movie called Sliding Doors, and because this movie took so long to make, she missed out on being

in How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days. She couldn't make it, so she had to drop out at the last second and then Kate Hudson replaced her. So that's a sliding doors scenario. Interesting. I will say that the other thing about this guy, the director of this Bruno Beretto Portuguese director, one of the biggest film directors in Brazil, has really only made dramas. And so...

Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. And so we made these movies like Four Days in September, or Bossa Nova, you know, Tati, he made a cop movie with Billy Baldwin before this. Not really the guy that's going to be delivering the comedy. That makes sense. Then that makes sense, that it's not as somebody who has a light touch or that makes sense as to why the movie feels so, like, without stakes and aimless and kind of not fun for

what is obviously a movie that's supposed to be about people having fun, you know, more often than not. And he was married to Aimee Irving for quite some time. And here's what I'll tell you. Here's a... I think we've... Would we recommend this movie? I mean, June, I know you came in hot.

I know. And it's like, you guys, you know, I hate doing this podcast sometimes because I just sometimes I just want to sit and watch a movie, you know, without all this discussion around it. Because it did... This movie washed over me rather nicely. And I did genuinely enjoy seeing a lot of these people on screen together. I just did. I enjoyed seeing Christina Applegate.

I enjoyed seeing the two of them in a flight-attended dorm room together in their PJs. I was like, thank you on a Wednesday afternoon. It was... But I would still rather... Especially in the context of this... Yeah. Of course, of course, but in the context of this podcast and what I am subjected to... Oh, yeah, sure.

Okay. For me, this was a breath of fresh. This was a welcome release. I agree with you in the sense that like it is... It's very good performers trying their best in something that doesn't live up to the amount of quality they are putting into it, right? So it makes it a much easier thing to watch than some of the other movies that we are forced to watch, which truly are like either a mess or don't add up or are really frustrating.

This wasn't frustrating. I just felt... No. Kind of weird. Kind of bored, honestly. I just felt like it was flat. And there were times that I was enjoying moments or performances or whatever, but I was... It just felt boring in a lot of...

I just didn't... I don't know. It felt like walking into a house and every door led to a room that you did. It was always a little bit off on... Wait, where do the doors go? The doors go to the cheese pizza place. And now hear me out. But here's what I'll say.

No, all the movies we're referencing as like Romeo and Michelle's, something about Mary, watch all of those movies instead of this movie. You know what I mean? There's so many movies that are... With the cast? Yeah. I know it. I feel like somebody must have dropped out and they assigned it to this guy, Bruno Beretti.

And the taglines for these movies are, don't stop till you reach the top, a comedy that goes for first class and prepare for her arrival. I will say that in the research of looking up stuff about this movie, Roger Ebert liked this movie, gave it three stars, said this is a beautiful journey. And he thinks that just like Top Gun brought young men to the Air Force, this movie would bring young children to flight attendants. And we've seen that that has been proven true. Now I will also say that this is a great movie that ends on the same song, begins and ends

on the same song. And... Oh, and it's throughout... Actually, I'm so sorry, Paul. It doesn't just begin and end. You're talking about True Colors? Oh, not True Colors. Isn't it?

Oh, wait. Is it True? Oh, sorry. Because True Colors is woven into the movie multiple times in both vocal and instrumental versions. Oh, wow. That's very true. But I'm sorry, you're talking about a different song.

Go ahead. I'm so sorry. No, I was just saying, just the don't stop believing. Yes, you're right. Yeah. Because that really is the theme of the movie. Don't stop believing. Because one day you'll get to something that you didn't even believe in because it's actually,

it's more convenient. I guess. Or it's like beyond your wildest dreams. Like, I think that's maybe, it's like beyond your wildest dreams. I don't know. I do not know. And also there's a world in which like, I guess maybe she's not with Mark Ruffalo at the very end when she's a pilot.

Because that's what's really confounded. No, she is. That would be incredible. Well, but if she's like, make no with Rob Lowe. But they set it up like it's a choice, but it's not. Well, I feel like what they're saying is it's not enough to just choose Ruffalo. She also has to choose herself as well, which must mean she has to become a pilot. It's not enough to go to Cleveland, be a flight attendant and marry Ruffalo.

It's not believing in your dreams. That's somehow making a step backwards or something. So she must have had another great destiny, another great ambition, which is she becomes a pilot. So it weirdly is at the end of the movie, a fuck you to flight attendants. Right. Because she doesn't go. She didn't go on to.

You fucking idiots. You should just become pilots. If you're out of Cleveland, it's not worth it, so become a pilot. The only good flight attendant gig is one. There's only one good flight attendant gig. The rest is all trash international first class. Everybody else is garbage. It seems like that's true.

I mean, I do think this, why I think this is an incredibly difficult job. I think it's going to do more than ever now more than ever, I think this is an incredibly difficult job. Shout out to all of the flight attendants out there who are doing it because my God, my God. And especially these last, these last three and a half years have just been a disaster for that industry. Yeah.

And we are just boarding planes full of monsters. Does any, oh, it's a ridiculous, it's so upsetting, upsetting. Does anyone want to say anything about Christina Applegate pounding? Incredible. Paltrow's facing to bread. Incredible. I loved it. I feel like I've spoken about it multiple times.

But it deserves repeating just for everybody. There is a fight scene, again, this is post-September 11th, but Christina Applegate having been fired by the airline is somehow able to walk on to Gwyneth Paltrow's... Fired for the airline by stealing, for stealing, for stealing. For stealing. For stealing. Like little, like little... And little bottles of booze.

Well, listen. Anyway, but she's able to walk back and have a fist fight with Gwyneth Paltrow in first class on one of the planes, and the fight is so funny. And they do. She smashes Gwyneth Paltrow's face into like a loaf of sourdough bread. For that moment alone, it is worth it. A loaf as if it just came out of the oven. A giant full round loaf.

Man, I would have liked some of these people to come back. You know, I wanted to know some of these stories I was interested in some of these players. And this is what I wanted to tell you both. The reason why I picked this movie is because I am developing this into a limited series. We got the entire cast back 20 years later. We're going to bring it back. We're going to go back to the top one more time, guys. Rob Lowe is on.

Everybody is signed back on. That would be kind of amazing. It would be great. It's on stars. This is the kind of movie. This is the kind of movie. Instead of making legacy sequels or two like beloved movies. I'd love it if you took a movie that was genuinely unsuccessful.

I think everybody and you're saying that Gwyneth Pauldra said this was a bad movie. Genuinely taking an unsuccessful movie and turning it into something incredible. Let's take another shot. That would be awesome. I always believe that that's the secret to remakes. I just want to call it one thing, which is Richard Iowate wrote a book called Iowate on top. It is a full book only on this movie.

It takes it breaks down this movie. It is like it's 300 pages. Babe, this is the book that I was reading and laughing out loud. Remember you were like, what are you reading? And I'm like, I'm reading this book about a Gwyneth Pauldra movie. I would read her chapters or sections. It is one of the funniest books I've ever read. I'm going to get this.

That's amazing. And it has an audio component to it. You can listen to the audio. It is so fucking funny. And I didn't see this movie before reading that book, and I didn't even watch a movie after reading the book. I didn't need to. It's so good.

It is so funny, so I just want to plug that as one of my favorite things I've read in recent memory. It was one of the reasons I wanted to do this. I wanted to watch what could inspire a 300-page book and it literally breaks it down scene by scene. I get it because of what we've been talking about, which is when you watch this, you are like, why isn't this working? Like you really are very frustrating because it really should work.

These are good actors who have chemistry with each other, giving good, ostensibly good performances in service of, I don't know what, you know? I mean, he treats this like it is Peckinpah to Paris by way of Nevada and other places we don't care about. What do we got to talk about here? June, I know you have a big event coming up. Yes. On May 13th, the deep dive in Bitches Usher coming together to host I'd Hit That, which

is our big extravaganza pickleball tournament, slash show, slash dance party, slash everything, and Paul is going to be our DJ and MC. Amazing. It's going to be so much fun if you head to janeclub.com slash pickleball and use code HDTGM, that's code HDTGM at checkout, you can get 15% off of tickets and they are going fast. Nice. I love it.

Pickleball. I love it. I can't wait. That's amazing. You guys have introduced me to pickleball and it's pretty, pretty intense. You're quite good, Jason. You're very good. I'd like to get better, I'd like to get better.

I'll throw out a plug for the animated show House Broken that I do, one of the voices of a show about people's pets when the people aren't around and the mischief they get into. It is on Fox Sunday Nights. It's on Fox Sunday Nights, season two is going right now, please tune in. And also on Paramount Plus, Star Trek Prodigy, one of the best animated Star Trek shows as well as Lower Decks that you both have been on, fantastic. But Star Trek Prodigy, it needs your eyeballs. So watch the whole show on Paramount Plus, please.

Completion rate people, completion rate is the secrets of success here. All right, everybody. I'm sorry, just because this movie had like light rom-com vibes, I would like to just put a call out to everybody to please watch the British rom-com Rai Lane that's on Hulu. I'm not associated with this at all. This is a plug for something I watched and loved. It is absolutely fantastic, a deeply funny and compelling and lovely and sweet like straight up rom-com.

It's funny. I was completely on board for the love story, the performances are great, Rai Lane. I love it. I'll say this, that if you want to see Jason and I in Los Angeles, a lot of times you can catch us at Largo doing our improv show, Dinosaur, which is a monthly show and it's always a great cast of fun people. The show may be over, but it continues next week on Last Looks. That's right.

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