How Did This Get Made? - Voyage of the Rock Aliens (HDTGM Matinee)

Episode Date: April 1, 2025

Jason, June and Paul break down the 1984 masterpiece, Voyage of the Rock Aliens. The crew discuss the rocker aliens, greasers, all the incredible bops, Jermaine Jackson, the toxic tentacle monster, and yes... this movie really does have it all and MORE! (Originally Released 01/27/2022) HDTGM Spring Tour 2025 tickets are now on sale for Austin, Denver, Seattle, Boise, San Fran, Portland, & LA at hdtgm.com.Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of TraumaCheck out new HDTGM movie merch over at teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmJoin the HDTGM conversation on Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheerVisit Paul’s YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheerFollow Paul’s movie recs on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer/Watch Enter The Dark Web w/ Paul and Rob Huebel on youtube HDTGM Spring Tour 2025 tickets are now on sale for Austin, Denver, Seattle, Boise, San Fran, Portland, & LA at hdtgm.com.Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of TraumaCheck out new HDTGM movie merch over at teepublic.com/stores/hdtgmCheck out our new hats at podswag.comJoin the HDTGM conversation on Discord: discord.gg/hdtgmPaul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheerEnter the Dark Web w/ Paul and Rob Huebel on YouTube @enterthedarkwebLike good movies too? Listen to Unspooled with Paul and Amy Nicholson: https://www.unspooledpodcast.com/Listen to The Deep Dive with Jessica St. Clair and June Diane Raphael: www.thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcastWhere to find Paul, June, & Jason:@PaulScheer on Instagram & Twitter@Junediane on IG and @MsJuneDiane on TwitterJason is not on social media Get access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm.

It's a giant guitar! It's here! It's here! We're under attack! We saw Voyage of the Rock Aliens. Let's dance tonight, so you know what that means. Now it's time for How to Discrubate! Gonna have a good time, celebrate some failure, not just be a hater, cause you know you wonder how to discrubate! Let's war in the mediocrity of subpar art. Hello, people of Earth, and welcome to How Did This Get Made? I am Tal, John Sheeran, and Boyle Boy.

Sometimes I think I'm jaded that I've seen every type of bad film, and then I get surprised, and this is one of those movies. Voyage of the Rock Aliens, colon, Let's Dance Tonight. We have a lot to say about this movie. I can't wait. I can't wait. I didn't know there was a subtitle. I didn't either. I'm just learning that now. It's the first time I'm hearing Let's Dance Tonight.

And it's only because you've said it twice that I realize it's a part of the title. Oh, it is a part of the title. And those are my two co-hosts. Please welcome Jason Madzoukas and June Diane Rayfield. Wow. I mean, wow. Let me be clear.

Let me be clear. We have been doing this podcast now for, is it 12 years? Coming up on 12 years or is it coming up on 11 years? Over a decade. Over a decade. We've done it for over a decade. Maybe it's coming up on 12 years or is it coming up on 11 years? Over a decade, over a decade. Maybe it's coming up on 11 years. Anyway, I have never heard of this movie. Nope.

This wasn't on my rate. This is from the era in which I was renting movies. I was not aware of this movie. And I'm here to say to both of you, this is one of the best movies we've ever done. Amen. Whoa, that's a big statement, Cheesin. This is, I was laughing so I loved this movie full stop. I rewound this movie multiple times,

and June caught me this morning playing the soundtrack on Spotify. Yeah, oh wow. Like I am in. Oh, it's great. The songs are great. The movie is, there's something actually quite freeing about there not being a plot, really.

Mm-hmm. You can't really, as hard as you look sometimes, you can't really catch the one. You can't really get a grip on either a story, or there isn't, cause the movie is mostly songs and music video style stuff. Yeah, ish. And I mean, it's ish.

Well, okay, so you're right. Cause as soon as I'm like, as soon as I was like, oh, okay, it's a story about aliens, like searching for rock and roll in this music. Then it's like, no, no, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, oh, okay, it's a story about aliens, like searching for rock and roll in this music. Then it's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, this is a story about two escaped psychopaths who are murdering people in this town. Like there were so many, but Jason, I am with you.

Everything, everything was working. I really enjoyed it. And actually I think there were, and I know we'll get into it, there were certain things in this movie that were absolutely elevated, transcendent, interesting, and like, unexpected. OK, when the movie starts with the Germaine Jackson, Pia Zadora planet, not Earth, it's a different planets song.

Yeah. That, I was like, I would happily live in that movie. Jermaine Jackson, Pia Zadora planet, not Earth. It's a different planets song. Yeah. I was like, I would happily live in that movie. If they'd gone to that world, I would have been into it. The Mad Max world, like Mad Max and New Wave existing in a world together. Now here's what I'll say, just because it's probably going to be very hard for you to understand

what we're talking about. It is a movie in which multiple times I rewound because I was like, oh, I must have missed some connective tissue to get to this next scene. No, I didn't. I didn't. It just really jumps. And I guess if we want to just lay down the foundation, it is about a group of aliens

who are looking for rock music that travel in a spaceship in the shape of a guitar, and they're trying to find rock music. That is, that is- They are dressed and look like New Wave, like Devo style. Like a Devo ripoff band. Yeah, they- And they are.

That's what they- Okay, but just to stop there for a second. At that premise, at that movie that you're describing, like I never understood why they wanted to find rock music. I didn't either. Like what, because they are actually end up being a band themselves. Agreed. So it's not like, oh, we don't know how to do this or we want.

It's not like we are discovering music. No, it's not like, it's not like, oh my God, we're aliens. And then we once heard this thing over the traffic waves. And, you know, through light years, we heard this sound and we can't get enough of it. Actually, like, no, they, they do it and better. Well, here's the other thing about them. They are searching the universe for music. And that's how we get this amazing opening

with Piazzadora and Jermaine Jackson. Now, I will say, just so you understand that, as we talk about this later on, that Piazzadora is not the same Piazzadora in the rest of the film. Yes. Right? So Pies Adora plays Shoo.

I wasn't sure about that. I wasn't either. I was like, I was confused and I kept expecting, frankly, Jermaine Jackson to show up in- Me too. On the- She did not.

She did not. Also because their duet was incredible. Their duet- I honestly think I wanna play the music right now. I wanna play the music right now. I wanna play the music right now so bad. How did they dance to it this morning? I came into his office and I heard him playing it

and we straight up like danced to the music. It's good. Let's hear a little bit. Let's hear a little bit of When the Rain Begins to Fall. That's my favorite song. And when the rain begins to fall I'll be the sunshine in your light You know that we can have it all Here's what I'll say about that song. It's a banger.

It's great. But the way that they sing it is fantastic. But the onscreen chemistry between Jermaine and Piazador is not there. Like, it is, they don't look, like, it's supposed to, I think, have an evocative nature of, like, almost like the end of Grease with, like, Sandy, and have that, like, kind of back of it.

Well, see, I think that's what they're doing in the Earth version is very much a riff on Grease. You know, with the diner and Frankie is kind of Danny Zuko. And you know, like there's a whole kind of, like the Earth stuff is Greece. But this duet between her and Jermaine Jackson was, it starts the movie and it starts the movie strong. Even actually, I would say the song that opened, like when the movie

opens over credits, it's just already immediately great. Oh, it is. It's like a straight up, it's as if you made, um, like a kid saw Alien and was like, oh, I want to shoot this in my garage. Like, it is a stat, like it's this weird, very clunky, like forbidden planet kind of robot. This just slowly go. So for me, where I realized like, this is gonna be a really wonderful motion picture was when that alien robot that Paul's describing

took out to call up the crew who'd been asleep for like thousands of years. Took out a bunch of action figures who were each in tubes. Opens up a refrigerator. A refrigerator that looks like it has leftovers in it. Like it is a dirty old refrigerator. A regular full refrigerator, but the entire crew is inside of it.

So who's using the refrigerator? Well, I guess maybe when they are rehydrated. I mean, these, well, clearly, the robot maybe put them in the fridge till they didn't spoil. But I'll tell you this much. This crew is bizarre because at one point, they print out a paper version of one of the members who blew up and they pump them up.

I don't know what, I don't even know, are they just like balloons? Are they balloons? Yes, okay, I can talk about when the guy, first of all, we should check the best buy date on these guys because I think they might have spoiled a little bit in the fridge because they are weird times a million. Yes, yes, the plot is tricky to describe. I would say the only true description of the plot happens by that robot that we're just talking about.

Take a listen. Remember, observing physical properties and locating an intelligent life form are what we all came for. Am I making myself clear? It is mandatory that this exploratory mission of interplanetary observation be accomplished without interfering or obtrusively interfacing with the inhabitants of this planet. What'd he say? And one of the guys, like the lead guy, who I think is meant to be like the hunk of the new wave alien

Well, then they shouldn't have given him that haircut. I agree Given him that haircut. I was like I want him to be a hunk. I love that They should have given him and honestly, that's my only note. Yep That's it. I like the hunky karate kid bad guy He he is a he's ABCD. That's his name, Tom Nolan, which don't mean absent.

Oh, is it absent? OK, because I thought ABCD, I thought that was his name. OK, absent. OK, so OK. So that's how they pronounce it. That's what that's what he is. The door is. She assumes she is.

Oh, my God, Paul, get it together. She reads so piece of her when she meets them on planet earth, they have on their, they have on their little suits like ABCD, EFGHI, like they all have letters. And so she, it's actually not her, it's the other woman who's the mechanic. Oh, who's the mechanic? I could talk about her for about five hours. The journey that she goes on, from hanging out with Pia Zadora to the majority of the second half of the movie

just helping the murderer fix his chainsaw in a static shot with tools she brought to the cotillion or whatever. That was amazing. It was amazing. I was like, this is a choice. Because I was actually watching that sequence and I'm sorry that we're jumping all around, but.

It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It really doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. When the movie turned into a horror film and, but actually shot pretty well. Like when she was running away from him and he was in behind her in the shadows with a chainsaw,

I was like, oh fuck. And then to have it turn around and have her, like, reassemble his chainsaw, it was such a... And she's kind of giving him shit. Like, she's... Wonderful choice. She's like, when's the last time you cleaned this? Like, what? And he's like, uh, never. Like, she's shaming him.

The status... Because he's pulling out the wrong tools. The status immediately shifts in the scene to where she's high status and he's low status. But also another layer of what's happening, Jason, is that she is fixing his weapon, which she knows this, like we all know is probably gonna kill her. So it's the craziest, it's,

I've never seen anything like it. I loved it. The final scene arcs with him putting down his chainsaw and they go off into the sunset. Now, just so you know, this man that we were talking about, if you've ever seen, like, the cover box for The Hills Have Eyes, he is the bad guy from The Hills Have Eyes, a notoriously interesting-looking man.

Like, scary actor. Bald man, interesting eyes. Yeah. looking man, bald man, interesting eyes. Like, yeah. And so he, when we first meet him and the other psychopath who they're, he's wearing a straight jacket, the entire movie because they've escaped from a mental institution. Like they don't speak into this one moment where this girl who's kind of a tough girl

who can't really find a good guy and seems to be like, oh, just irritated by everyone and everything. Like she softens with this complete, you know, psychopath who's like a... They break out of a hospital for the criminally insane, and they go to a gun store and buy all of, like multiple carriages full of guns. It's also just fucking funny.

There's jokes that are working all the time. I was shocked. I wanna talk about my favorite joke. You know how I feel about singing in movies, but this movie is better than Annette. This movie right here is better than Annette. I'm saying it. By the way, I would put them on the same level

as being as experiment, this movie is as experimental as Annette. I'm saying it. By the way, I would put them on the same level as being as experiment, like this movie is as experimental as Annette. Annette wishes it was as, Annette could never. Annette wishes that it was as organic as this movie, that it felt as organic as this movie. Well, just so you know,

not because I don't wanna reveal too much, but I'll say that this movie was written as a send up of B movies and someone read it and they said, you know what? This doesn't work. We need to make it a musical. And then they just shot in the musical numbers. So this was a conceived script without any music.

Then they're like, we're gonna make it a musical. And then when I have to had bad test screenings, they're like, shit, we it a musical and then when I have to had bad test screenings like shit We need to put more music in this so they put that Piazzadora Jermaine Jackson song at the top because it was supposed to just be the end seek. So this movie is It's just like these creatures. So it's so initial initially. It was a movie movie They're in a non musical movie then they added music and then they kept only the music and got rid of the plot because there is zero plot

in this movie, really, genuinely. Like, except that there's aliens, there's kind of a battle of the bands. I just want to give, like, shouts to Ruth Gordon as the sheriff. OK, OK, OK. Who is? I have to tell you, this secret.

I have to tell you, this secret. No, no, no, no, no, no. She is. Ruth Gordon. Ruth Gordon from Harold and She is, she deserves it all. Ruth Gordon. Ruth Gordon from Harold and Maude. She deserves it all. She's the greatest.

Okay, this scene, this scene where, which is such an unnecessary scene, where she's in her sheriff's office and there's a dead body. And she says, she picks up the guy's wallet and she's like, this is the hardest part, the way she delivers this whole sequence is the hardest part of the work that I do.

And then calls that widow. I was laughing hysterically. She calls it, she says, is this the widow? Is this the widow of John What's-his-face? John What's-his-face and the person's-his-face, and the person, you can tell says, like, I'm not a widow. I'm not a widow. And she says, well, you are now, he's dead.

By the way, I understand, it shouldn't be that, she clearly doesn't do it, she doesn't know enough to even lead with the right question, but how did she fall out of her perch in the beginning? Because she catches the alien ship on a telescope, a very high powered telescope. Cause she's seeing people inside the phone booth. She's creeping out.

She's like looking at people right through their windows. Yeah. I thought she was looking. Well, first I thought she was a man. So it took me a second to even recognize who she was. She was looking at a guy, like undressing, right? Yeah. So she's a peeping Tom sheriff.

Yes, she has so many layers. Holy shit. She is so, everybody in this movie is just, I don't know what they're doing. They're just crushing. This movie has no business working. I know, like Frankie, everybody, it's great. It has no business working, especially for just the fact

that it's no story and wall-to-wall songs, and the songs also don't tell a story. No. And the songs are, like, if you were to break down the lyrics of the song, they are legit bad. They are bad lyrics that are fantastic. Yeah, they're, like, I have pulled up some lyrics here. I mean, Nature of the Beast, I really want to get into.

But it is, here, here's some of the lyrics. Bangs, women's bangs are a character in this movie. Like June, I feel like you could talk about the hairstyles in this movie forever. This movie is so aggro 80s, both in the sense of like embracing all of the New Wave kind of rockabilly stuff that was also popular at the time. Well, is that New Wave versus rockabilly?

Cause it's like, like the guys- Well, it was also versus like, like the greasers, like there was also like the 50s nostalgia too, which was going on, you know? I didn't know that was a thing. So that was a thing in the 80s, the 50s nostalgia? Yeah, yes.

Okay, so that was new for me. I didn't understand that. It was very hard to pinpoint anything in this film because in the beginning of the film, when they are looking for music in the universe, they find it three different times. Like, one is like a ballroom dance, like, ew, boring.

And, right, great. And then they find that Mad Max world that Jermaine... Then there's one that's just like Muppets, right? Muppets, right, yes. Then there's one that's just like Muppets, right? Muppets, right, yes. Isn't there one that's just like Muppets or something? Something bizarre. And then they find that Jermaine Jackson world, and there's no music there.

And like, ooh, this is good, but it's basically like the precursor to a song. Like, they're looking for music, and that's the only world that doesn't have music, and they're like, we like that music. before it even starts. They are on that TV screen looking for music in the world. Aren't they watching that music though, because they're trying to figure out if that's rock music and they decide no.

Well, but the first one, they're like, that's not rock music. The second one, that's not rock music. But then they watch. Oh, they watch all of the, the, the duet between. There's like about a 40, 40 second not music. It's just like, it's just Jermaine Jackson, like, hanging out with like... The gangs, rival gangs.

And motorcycles. There's no music there. And they're like, let's keep this on. They don't even like jump in. In all white dress and white motorcycles. I mean, like this, and then Piazzadora running through like what looked like an Italian village just to get to Germaine Jackson so that they can sing.

I mean, like, I'm not kidding, that was incredible. That opening. Whoever, I mean, clearly Germaine Jackson was in Italy and like, we need to shoot this part in Italy. The rest of the movie, like, I don't know where they shot it. But there is also, I want to talk to whoever scored the movie because someone definitely put up the volume level on Jermaine's snaps because his snaps are louder

than any instrumentation or any song. It's just like, so incredibly aggressively loud over the music. I was laughing. It's also like two gangs are in a fight. I don't know if it's supposed to be like a Romeo and Juliet rip. It feels like warriors, yeah.

They're from different, they fall in love, but they're from different gangs or whatever. But when they fight, when they actually get to fight, all anybody knows how to do is front kicks. It's like the gentlest fight ever. It's so, there's like everything feels like, every fight feels like it's dance choreography instead of fight choreography.

Well, it feels like a music video and Jim Cata mix. It's like, it's weird. And that's what this movie is like. I always say people go like, what's your favorite movie you've done on the show? I'm like, oh, it's tricky, because I think The Room is like the ultimate one. But then I'm now I've been saying like,

oh, I think Miami Connection. I was gonna say Miami Connection felt, this felt like the discovery of Miami Connection. I agree 1000%. And, but it's like this, you can tell like, there are moments of this movie that feel like a corporate retreat business video. Like they're like, all right, we're all going on a retreat

and we're gonna learn how to share. And we're also gonna do a TikTok together. Like that like level of like, there's like some sort of, like there's some- What about when they're all singing at the beach and then Frankie comes up and they're like, it's Frankie! And then Frankie goes,

I decide who sings with the band around here. I was like, oh, who is this guy? Frankie's some sort of like- I love Frankie. Like music bully? Who like decides, he gets, I was like, fucking this is awesome. Well he's also kind of a gang member. Oh yeah. I loved Frankie. I thought, I was like, fucking this is awesome.

Well he's also kind of the gang member. Oh yeah. I loved Frankie. I thought he was great. He was! How did this come in? How did this come in? I also like, we're forgetting that there's another story.

There's the aliens looking for rock. There's, you know, the escaped convicts. Yeah, psychopaths. There's Ruth Gordon and her deputy. And then there's also like the toxicity of the land and what's happening with like a chemical giant octopus. They're like on Lake Erie, they're on Lake Erie and Lake Erie is like're on Lake Erie and Lake Erie is,

it's like, do not hang out. And this is why I'm saying, like, I don't even understand what planet this is. Lovecraftian tentacle monster that lives in the water. They're doing like an Annette Funicello back at the beach kind of energy. But on the beach, when you put a surfboard in the water, it disintegrates and you see a tentacle.

And it's like, and this water, they are in a nuclear, there's something going on that they don't really address, although it comes into... Steelberg. Was it Steelberg or Spielberg? No, it's Spielberg. It is Spielberg, isn't it? Well, Spielberg is the guy.

It is Spielberg. Well, Spielberg is the town. Well, Spielberg is the town. I thought Spielberg was the guy. No, the town is called, I think, Spielberg. Or is it Steelberg? Well, I thought it was Lake Erie, and I think it may be Steelberg because... Oh man, this is interesting. Here, I have a clip where they...

It is, Molly said it's Spielberg. Yeah. The town is Spielberg. The town is Spielberg. The town is Spielberg. Like it's in a director. Steven Spielberg. That's what I said, it's Spielberg,

oh, not like the director. No, like the director. It's a homonym. It's spelled differently, but it sounds the same. Okay. So, yeah, I mean that, and by the way, that was like, so here's the thing that I didn't understand about that, but again, I was fascinated, I couldn't take my eyes off of what was happening

with that sort of like Beach Boys energy over this toxic wasteland. But that tentacle, the first time we see it is the first time we're in Spielberg. Yes, yes. So does no one else see it at that point? No. And the guy, he notices his surfboard disintegrate. Like, everybody seems to know, I think.

Well, there's enough warnings on that sign. The beach sign basically is like, no loitering, no sitting, no having fun. It was a lot, you know, the sign went on. Like, they clearly are these kids. They're like, we don't care. But did you guys, did anybody ever address, like, the horrors on. Like they clearly are these kids are like, we don't care. Did anybody ever address like the horrors that are going on outside? Like the monster in the lake or? Well, Pia Sador has a monologue

which I thought she delivered beautifully to the... I liked her. I liked her a lot to the head alien of Hunk, quote unquote. But she says that at one point they did, yes. Absid, what they did try to like take care of the, the toxic water and all this stuff that was happening, but then a chemical plant opened or something. But it just seems like this is the way of life.

This movie is a better, better addresses climate change than Don't Look Up. This movie really, I mean, the metaphor here is very clear. And I honestly, you know, I walk away and go, the climate change is a problem. I mean, this is it. It's affecting our kids. It's affecting our kids.

And you know what? When are we gonna realize when this tentacle comes into our schools? Is that when we're going to finally open our eyes? I want to talk about the tentacle because the tentacle is a big part of the end of the movie where... Which is not a threat throughout any of the rest of the movie. It's like introducing King Kong or Godzilla in the last three minutes of...

Yes. Here's what the tentacle reminded me of. So a lot of things are being resolved at the same time. Like the, you know, the chainsaw murderer is now falling in love with the greaser girl and Piazador is back with Frankie and Frankie is going to include her in the band.

Like we're resolving so much, but then, uh oh. They put the panther back in the locker. But then. Oh my God. See. Oh my God. See. Oh my God. This crazy tentacles out. What?

Wait, hold on, I'll let you. Oh my God. Welcome back to Panther. Sorry. Frank, is that a panther or a cougar or whatever? When he puts a big cat, a jungle cat, into his school locker and closes the door, I was like, this movie has everything.

It really does. So then, but when, just when we think like things are gonna be okay, turns out that Heidi High is being attacked by this now really big octopus creature. But not even octopus, June, tentacle. Just tentacles. Like it is lovecraftian. We never see the new way.

It is, yeah, you don't see a face. You don't ever see a face. But like I'm watching this tentacle and they couldn't even, it has no, how to describe it. It's like, it looks like- You have to fall into it. Yes, it looks like like one of my pregnancy pillows that I used to use that were just like, that are soft.

And if they hate you, they would never attach or wrap around you. There would be no way they could hold you down. Everyone falls into the tentacle and then is not held by it. But it's almost as if there is a gravitational pull that like because the tentacle is not even opening and closing like a small grip. It's just like, it kind of comes like a cane at like showtime at the Apollo,

like we're gonna pull you off the stage. It's like that kind of level. It's like, yes. And everybody, you can tell everybody's being directed, like to act as though they're getting trapped. Act as though you're stuck to it now. Yes, yes, I know it's so crazy, because it's also so slow.

It's like, there's no world in which you couldn't get out of this tentacle hold. Holy shit. No, I mean it doesn't... You just simply, honestly, walk away. And what does the tentacle do? Because there's no mouth and it doesn't seem to be constricting you. So like what's the end game of the tentacle? Just to like kind of hug you?

Yeah. Touch you. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It just wants to be part of the gang, I think. And when they decide to kill it, or when it's defeated, it's defeated. This thing is giant.

It's over Heidi High. It has multiple. An entire school. An entire school. And our guy from the Hills has Eyes, who has now had his chainsaw fixed and found love, slices off a piece that seems to be two, three inches. Like six inches long? I was going to to be two, three inches.

Like six inches long? I was gonna say like very small. Very small. It would be like cutting off like one knuckle of your pinky. Yeah, I was like- I was gonna say like after you've peeled a carrot or before, like just cutting off the-

Perfect. Yes. Just a little, like especially in contrast to how big it is, that is what defeats it. But when he does that, what happens is, bubbles come out. Yeah. Like a fucking bubble, like a bubble maker water gun.

Like a bubble blower just is like blowing bubbles out of it. And everybody's like, that's the thing is, insane things happen throughout this movie. Like in the malt shop when the, when Absid, the head of the alien guys sees Pia Zadora for the first time, smoke comes out of his neck and his body literally explodes.

He explodes and he explodes in such a way. On to people, his arm is on some moments head. Like his arm is the head. And by the way, the head. And everybody in the malt shop is like, cool. And by the way, the head. Everybody in the mall shop is like, cool. And by the way, that head, when they are traveling around with his head, which is not a replica of his face,

it is a mannequin head. And by the way, I know that these are not like, we're not like attacking it, it's just brilliant. And I think maybe that's why he had to have that haircut because it matched the wig on the mannequin. They're running around with this head around town and they have to get back to their phone booth, which clearly Bill and Ted stole,

and to go back to their ship to then put all of the pieces in like a compactor that like then prints out like a fruit roll-up of him or in different pieces. And then they put the fruit roll-up in another machine that then prints out another like, color form of him. And then they just pump, pump, pump him up. I mean, that's it, and then he's... Then he's back in action.

You know, they're ready to go back down so they can do Battle of the Bands. So these people blow up occasionally? I mean, is that like... Everything was, like, every... What would happen is, there would be, like, a song would happen every, I'm gonna say every three minutes, a new song would start.

Regardless of what had happened in between. Like, it didn't matter. A new song, like, the song Justine, I don't know why that's there. I don't know who that person was. I don't know who Justine was. I don't think she was a character in the movie. But she's in that, she's there for that song.

Here, can I read some lyrics? I forgot about Justine. Justine, Justine, Justine, Justine, you don't treat me right, Justine, Justine, Justine. You don't treat me right. You'd like to ball in the morning, stay out late at night, go into the barbershop, gonna have him do me up,

gotta clean up for my little buttercup, Justine, Justine, Justine. Yeah. Mamas, Papas, sisters, brothers, uncles, crazy child, woo-hoo. Justine, Justine, Justine. Yeah. Mommas, Papas, sisters, brothers, uncles, crazy child. Woohoo. Justine, Justine, Justine. Like, I mean, this is the lyrics of this movie. This is like, the majority of the song is just Justine.

It's incredible. And that's the level that the movie is at. Like most of the songs are just repeated words or phrases over New Wave, over terrific new wave music. Yeah, that's life. That's life, that's life, that's life. Finding an illusion, preserve the confusion, always. Craving controls, searching for something to say,

ignoring what matters for things that don't matter at all. That's life, that's life, that's life. Holy shit, now I find my little bit of heaven, holy shit. Oh, wait a second. The song in the bathroom where they're singing, and it starts with underpants around ankles. Yeah. It's a tracking shot over the feet

at the bottom of all of the stalls in the girls' room at Heidi High. Panties around every set of ankles, except for one. Somebody not wearing panties. Did anybody notice the graffiti in the bathroom? No. There were two things, two spray painted graffiti on the wall.

One said, Mustangs rule, okay? Question mark. Ah! Mustangs rule, okay? And then the other one was, it ain't my job. Oh my God. That was just gray painted on the wall of the girls' room, sorry. I love it.

Oh my, like, there are so many. I love it. Look, by the way, I also wanted to ask you what you thought, there's clearly a scene in this movie that they shot at a local county fair where they're on a circular ride. And then it also cuts to them playing a video game, like an old school Asteroids. And I was like, oh yeah, yeah.

But I think it was revealed that they weren't at a fair. It wasn't like that wasn't part of the thing. I think that was just part of their ship. I think they were trying to get production value to be like, oh, this old Atari game is actually our ship controls. I mean, by the way, their ship controls are a recording studio. Like, they are straight up reel-to-reel

and volume knobs. That's how they, I mean, it's awesome. It's so, it's Star Trek in a recording studio. Like, that's what their bridge is. Oh, my God. It's so interesting, because I know usually I have a hard time remembering all these movies, but I am I'm genuinely like when you're describing that roller coaster scene or whatever that that attraction was, it sounds of course I remember it now, but because the movie goes to

places you could never expect, you could never anticipate, you could never come up with. It's really hard for me to like, I'm experiencing it anew right now because like I completely forgot about Justine, but of course I did because it was so separate from the rest of the movie. It's like we saw a million movies. You're saying that no narrative, it's just images. Yeah. And you can't think to yourself, well, what happened after the scene

where they revealed blah, blah, blah, because it's just a fever dream of song segues. It's- Yeah, you gotta let go and let God. Yeah, this movie felt more like watching MTV in the eighties than it did watching a movie. I mean, the fact that Jermaine Jackson and Piazzadora, well, first of all, the fact that Jermaine Jackson

never comes back is odd. And he's gold as like the first person to film. But the fact that Piazadora looks really no different in both worlds and that she, I mean, I'm gonna say that they didn't, that she's not the same person. Like it's bizarre, that is also bizarre. Like, wait, you don't even, you don't even go,

oh, she looks like the girl in the video. I mean, we talked about with Gremlins at Nazium. Like, why isn't anyone going like, isn't that the same girl from the video? Or I guess they're just, I mean, there's only one, there's only three girls in the entire movie. Like, it's hard to not address the fact that we've already met this person on a different planet,

but yet she's not the same person. That was needlessly confusing. To have her play both parts. Just like put a unicorn thing on her, yeah. Like play both parts. That confused me, cause I was like, oh, did she go from that planet to earth? I didn't get that.

But to this movie's benefit, I didn't give a shit. I didn't examine it at all. It didn't bother me, it didn't bump me. I didn't examine it at all. It didn't bother me. It didn't bump me. I was like, please don't. I can't, like in my notes, I have, I don't know what's going on, but I'm loving. Yes, exactly.

I don't know why. Well, like at the end, yes. I wrote, I have no idea what is happening, and yet I'm riveted. I mean, this, can I just show you like, I want to like, this is like a perfect example A perfect example of like what we're talking about like just like listen to this dialogue He dumped us like yesterday's garbage. Yeah, well yesterday's garbage can still kick up a stink

He doesn't care about us. Yeah, and the garbage man ain't gonna stop here anymore either You're drinking your bath. Yeah, any garbage man tries to get his slimy hands on me is gonna get his friggin' teeth kicked. Yeah. That garbage man's name just happens to be Frankie. So, weirdly, Frankie seems to run the band, right? But he's weirdly not the lead singer. This blonde guy is, I think. Right, yes.

Frankie, I think, is putting it all together behind the scenes. But Frankie is not the one. Frankie is the one who comes in. Frankie does sing his own songs. But they are like solo songs. But Frankie is also the one that, and I'm sorry if I'm mixing up characters, who is shirtless wearing a leather jacket.

Correct. But the jacket's a little bit too small for him, so you always sing a little bit of belly. Like, you're seeing mid-drift. Like, I've never... Just seeing mid-drift in a leather jacket, like, that, it should just go down to meet the pant. Like, it was uncomfortable for me to see his little belly button

sticking out when he's trying to be cool. I can't express enough to you guys. I'm, like, scrubbing through the movie looking for stuff, and I'm like scrubbing through the movie, looking for stuff. And I'm like, it's the same four sets and it's the same characters. They're just singing different nonsense songs. And I'm even silently, I'm having, and then I just realized the song that is

Now I've Found My Little Bit of Heaven is just the alien guy, Absid and Pia Zadora, singing in front of like a green screen that's just showing images of space. And then he's basically like, he's like, we can be together as soon as I remove, as soon as you get an emotionectomy or whatever, what's it called?

Basically that. Like we're gonna remove your emotions. And she goes, well, what about sex? And he's like,? Right, it's basically that. Like, we're going to remove your emotions. And she goes, well, what about sex? And he's like, well, don't worry about it. And she's like, I'm out of here. No, no, he says don't worry about it. Because we have sex any, like, every day. And she's like, what?

He's like, every Monday, every Tuesday. I'll play it for you here. Well, what about love? There is no love on our planet nor hatred You're kidding. No, the operation takes it away. But with all the emotion gone, how can we have You know Sex ah

That Ah, that. Yeah. Don't worry. On our planet, we have sex almost every night. Almost Monday, almost Tuesday. Maybe I don't have to have one if we're going just to visit. It wouldn't be just for a visit. No. No. You mean I'll never see Spielberg again?

Hi-de-hi, again. Heidi, hi. Frankie? That's correct. I felt like the aliens were then shown to be devoid of emotion and sexuality. And so that's why she goes running back to Frankie because he's all about like jealousy and emotions and they have like a sexual chemistry, blah, blah, blah. They're making out and et cetera.

But that the aliens didn't have that. They were more like, which kind of the exploding alien guy supports this, maybe kind of robots or I don't know what's going on. I think they were robots or robot like, but I was confused. Because they also had to invent a stimulator. They had to invent a female stimulator, which was weird.

And then that went horribly wrong. Oh yeah! But here's the thing though, They basically made everyone wanna fuck him. Yes. Only men. I forgot all about that, by the way. I know, but he was already having sexual reactions to her.

Yes, he wanted to be in love. He's like, you love me? Like, he was looking for love. He was there looking for rock, but what he found in love. He's like, you love me? Like he was looking for love. He was there looking for rock, but what he found was love. That's the tagline. But here's the weird thing though. So he, I, this misunderstanding between the two of them, like she, I thought also really wanted to be yes with him maybe, but more than that in his band. And she ended up going back to Frankie

because he's also willing to headline with her. Because he sees her perform, yes. He sees her perform at the Battle of the Band. There's that moment where he goes, you can come back to my planet. She's like, oh great, and we can do marketing and have press and we'll do shows. He's like, oh wait, don't you wanna come back for me?

And she's like, oh yeah, but she's got her eye on the bigger prize. She's not here for love. She's career-oriented. Yeah. Which is great. I mean, again, a beautiful sentiment in an 80s movie to show a strong woman.

This is like pre-frozen. And we're getting a day. This is exciting. She's ready to let Earth go so she can go to some other planet to become a singing sensation. Well, that, I guess, was my question for her. It's like, well, to go to another planet to become a singing sensation, like, what is the,

what is that, what is that world to you? Like, what does that, what does that mean to her exactly? I, I, I don't know. Nature of the Beast, Frankie's solo song? Let's talk about this, because Nature of the Beast is something that I need to study as it's a... Like, this movie should be studied like the Torah. There should be like, there should be like,

a rabbinic school. I do kinda wanna watch it again. And I don't know if we do a follow-up, but, and maybe it's just a shorter version. I would watch this again we do a follow-up, and maybe it's just a shorter version. But I did feel like- I would watch this again. What a longer version. What?

But it did feel like- If we did this episode back to back, like the mini episode, like next week, Voyage of the Rock aliens, we're going back in. Cause I do think understanding it and then going back in and going, all right, now I- I wanna watch the whole opening sequence again. Immediately. I watched the whole opening sequence again. Immediately.

I watched the whole opening sequence before we started. Oh, you did. I wanted to, but I didn't have the time. So did you learn anything new? No, I didn't. I just wanted to watch, cause I wanted to watch the Jermaine Jackson song again, cause I couldn't remember.

Only later did I start writing down the names of the songs. So I wanted to go back and write that and get that one down. But there is, it starts so strong. It's been, here's what I'll say. It's been an incredibly long time, I feel like, since we watched a movie that I genuinely want to tell people to watch. And you know what I mean?

I want to proselytize for this movie because it's so good in the way in which we think movies are good. You know what I mean? This is, and my issue with a movie, like, and Velocipaster and stuff like that is like, it's trying so hard to be like this. And when you see this, you're like, that's my, oh, I love it.

It is, like, you're right. I just want everyone I love it. I, it is like, you're right. I just want everyone to watch it. I'm listening to the soundtrack because it is like, organically it is insane. The only misstep other than the main alien's haircut is I did want the sheriff to have her own musical number. Yes, agree. She felt like she was heavily ADR'd

or they didn't have sound on days when she was working. Sometimes she sped up. I felt like Ruth Gordon was near the end here. I felt like she felt a little wobbly to me. I mean, but she did have a moment where she kisses this guy, and you feel like you feel, she gets all excited, and they speed her up, almost like she's in an old old, like Benny Hill episode.

Like it's, it is. I love this. Okay, I love the scene where she tells that woman, you know, her husband's dead, but why in... She starts off strong, like we need to fight these aliens. I mean, she's against the aliens from the get go. She wants to focus on that and also has to like deal with all the murders that are happening in town.

But the guy who comes in, who's dead, he's holding a piece of fried chicken and then his hand like moves to grab it under the blanket. So what was going on there? Oh, I don't remember that. I don't remember this at all. You don't remember that? I remember the deputy taking- He was that? I remember the deputy taking...

He was alive. I remember the deputy taking the chicken and eating it, but I don't remember the man's hand moving. No, that's interesting. Yeah, that man was alive. I'm gonna be honest. I maybe took more notes for this movie than I've ever taken in my entire life.

I'm going through my notes and I don't... And none of them make sense. That's what I'm looking at right now. I'm like, what does this mean? My notes aren't jogging memories because this movie was just insane. I mean, there are things, like I said, I played that garbage man clip.

They just say garbage man like 10 times. They also turn the robot into a fire hydrant, which we didn't talk about, which is absolutely insane. The robot fire hydrant is a beautiful idea for, it's also like, that will fit in, but it clearly is cumbersome at every level. Molly adds in here, she does, that he was wiping grease off of his fingers.

The dead person? The corpse? The corpse? The corpse? How to discotheque. How to discotheque. We also, I think, June, you got interrupted when you were talking about when the robot takes the crew out of the refrigerator and re-animates them or whatever. They go through like an action figure set of tubes. Like hamster tubes. That is so funny to me. And it's just, the movie is so visually satisfying.

And that's what I loved about it, Jason. Like that moment, that's where I was like, I'm all in. Because it's such a sort of low budget choice that is insane. But also inventive. Very inventive, very interesting. I'm like, I loved it. Even the woman with the hairspray and all the stuff getting stuck on her

and the arm getting stuck on her, like all of that stuff, I thought really, really worked. I mean, they clearly have no money and they try to make the most of it and they do it in the best ways. Like when that fucking tractor trailer pulls up on the beach, it's like Wait now they have farm equipment like yeah

The steamroller, right? Yeah the steamroller. Yeah, and they run over don't they run over two guys and flatten them too Doesn't the sheriff run two people over with a no, and flatten them? No, I'm talking about the guys. The band arrive on the beach, like in a big, like a big, like a farm truck. Like they're all performing on the farm truck. I'm like, what is this? And they also, the way that they transport themselves, like one comes out of the urinal.

Like, like. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They come out of bathroom stalls. They teleport into bathroom stalls except one guy's stuck in the urinal. I wrote in the middle of the- In my notes I have like, you know, we're catching up with the crazies at the gun store,

crazies set up at the high school dance. And then I wrote, I don't know what to do. Every scene needs full discussion. I know, I know. But there's choices. Every scene needs full discussion. I know, I know. But there's choices. OK, so the other choice I absolutely loved. And this movie, this director is patient. Because there is a sequence where one of the alien,

because they're also, I think, coming, yes, to find rock music, but also go out and do these observations. And so one of those observations about Earth is this one alien going to a mental institution. He's trying to figure out how to get in. The way they shot him standing there at the wall with the chainsaw, like cutting out an outline of himself, right? Well, yeah, it was basically around him. It was like a doorway around his back. Yeah, it's around him and then he falls back. It was like a doorway around him. I laughed so hard. It's a cartoon level.

Yes, but it works. There's a lot of, Everything works. There's a lot of Looney Tunes level stuff in here that is really funny. Like I will say like the band being like, like the alien band, sorry, I should be specific cause there's too many of them.

Yeah, yes. The alien band, being aliens, they're perfectly cast as like, they don't know what's going on. They're just innocents in the world, right? So even, so like, when they're just wandering around, looking and watching, everything they're doing is, I think, very funny and very silly.

The whole sequence where they get to their diner and are sitting at the table. Incredible, yes. Even a scene which could be like not cool, where they won't stop touching and smelling the hair of the mechanic girl. I laughed. I laughed.

I was like, they will not stop smelling her hair. But what I think is so great about that is the way that she plays it. She's like, oh, like she, and then that also like leads into like why she falls in love with this, this criminally insane man. Like she's like, oh, finally someone I can actually relate to is not like a super creep.

He's outwardly more of a creep than them, but internally he's not. And that's what makes their love so real. And that's what I love about it. Holy shit. It's really fucking funny, man. I mean, he, I wanna like, break it down in a way where we can just talk about the male persona. So at this one moment, Piazzadora's boyfriend on Earth,

Frankie, Frankie, is, is upset. His girlfriend has run off with Absid. And now what does he do? He goes to his locker, which is four times larger than a normal locker. Well, yeah, it is four lockers wide. So he opens up this locker, and first, my biggest laugh was just seeing

the almost a poster-size image of Piazzadora in his seeing the like almost a poster size image of Piazzadora it is a lot of size it is like it's a shrine. It's a huge poster. It takes up the entire Wall of his door wall of his locker, which is four lockers wide Also, we've seen in this movie his picture on the bath, on the wall of every female bathroom stall door. Right? Yes. Yes. And so they are undeniably the beautiful people of this, of Heidi, Heidi Heye, right?

Was that what it was? Yes, Heidi Heye. Yeah. The movie's amazing. And so then this song starts, and this is the song that like I was already in love with this movie, but this cemented it for me. This song about the male persona,

we'll play a clip here, take a listen. Thought my innocent face could hide my dark, elusive eyes. But now I think I know I'm committing an emotional homicide. This song is masterful. I mean, truly, like he is performing with a cougar or jaguar. And that cat is really in the shot with him too. I was like, this is dangerous.

This whole movie is incredibly dangerous. At one point, I read, Nate Kiley sent me some research, and the chainsaw was wired the wrong way. So, like, what you do with a chainsaw in a movie is you flip the chain so it won't cut you. They had forgotten to flip it, and the guy from the Hills have eyes, like, actually, I think you gotta flip that. And they're like, oh, good call, thanks.

So, like, so I don't know if safety was of the utmost concern because that Jaguar, at a certain point, also felt like they couldn't control him because he's just standing on top of like a heater or a radiator in an apartment. And they just get like a shot of that too. It seems like out of place in the whole rest of the song. I was like, does this guy, does the cougar live inside his locker?

Well, clearly at the end, or is he putting away his emotions? His song takes, the way these, what's great is, what I like about these is that the songs, they don't just exist in the space they are in, right? He can start his song, Nature of the Beast, but then it will, like a music video,

it'll cut to him in the forest with the jet, with the cougar. A desert. A desert where we have not seen, yeah. Or a this or that, like it's like a music video in that sense because like the songs are treated like short films almost, like they don't just limit themselves to like, okay, it's just them standing here singing the song.

It's like, well, we can do whatever the fuck we want. And they go for it and it's hilarious This song is insane. Is this the only song he sings? I believe so except for the duet they sing a duet at the end He and Piazadora, but I think he's lip-syncing that one or this one. I thought maybe he's lip-syncing both I don't know but there was something about it where I was like It that song just felt pure. That's the one that makes the most sense. Nature of the Beast? You know, yeah.

But now I think I'm committing emotional homicide, leaving you alone had to be the worst thing I could do because look at me now running around like a fool. Yes, that's the nature of the beast, keeping up the male persona. That's the nature of the beast, keeping up my status quota. That's the nature of the beast

who wants to give love and affection. Oh, the nature of the beast doesn't want to end up alone. Oh no, don't want to be alone. Well, here's the interesting, this is the one of the reasons why I want to watch it again is because I want to like drill down on, on, I can't believe I'm going to say it, but the bigger story, like I know where I know know it's gonna be hard to find, but I do think ultimately these alien men were able to teach the real life men, the real life humans, how to be more human, right? And like that's basically-

Wow, you're getting into that, okay. Yeah, I think they were. I think that was sort of the bigger story that they were, even though they were completely, and that's kind of an interesting commentary. Like they're completely, they don't have hearts, they don't have- They don't have emotions.

They don't have emotions. And they are actually able to teach them humanity. Well, let me, can I just piggyback on this and say, by acting like a fool, they show the cool kids that you don't have to be cool, you just have to be pure, right? And so like their performance and the way they interact, whether it was like having that sex chip

that made people attracted to them or having exploding in the diner. Like they are so unaware of- Authentically themselves. Yes, they're not embarrassed. They're not shy. They're also inclusive. Like they're not about like making rules or this,

you know, like they're like, yes, Pia Zadori, you should sing with us. You should, you know, like there is, they're yes anding everything. They just wanna, they're happy to be, they're yes. Andy and everything there. They just want to, they're happy to be there. Happy to be there. They're not trying to, exactly. They're not trying to like impose anything the way that like, I think Frankie is trying to like control everything and I'm in charge.

Get out of my way. Like, and I think that I decide who sings with the band, which is crazy in this small town that seems like it's there. It doesn't seem like a success in this small town that seems like it's, it doesn't seem like success in this small town is gonna translate into a larger gig. Well, Spielberg, the town that has like a toxic lake with a tentacle monster, I mean, this town's got a lot going on.

Yeah, I mean, this is a story about toxicity, the real sort of environment of toxicity. Wow, yes. Toxic masculinity. To your point, June, I would re-watch it just in like, I would watch it like 20 minutes at a time. Like I would just pop this on and be like, oh yeah, I'll watch three songs.

Just visually and musically, this movie is insane and so compelling. I might argue that this movie is better served bite size. Like, you know, it is, it is. Well, here's what I'll say. God, I wish Quibi was so. The Quibi, give me a Quibi. A perfect Quibi is just Quibbys.

This is a perfect movie to cut up into a Quibi. This is a Quibi. Now, June, you said before, something about the director, you said, wow, this director had tremendous restraint, tremendous patience, right? You said that? I did say that. Would it surprise you that this directors first movie was a dirty Harry movie?

He directed the enforcer was that Clint Eastwood reference? Oh, I assumed that was also because Ruth Gordon was in Was it every which way but loose with? Well, and by the way, he also directed that movie as well. This guy is a legit, like he directed the Enforcer. I'm not surprised. Every which way but loose. Then he directed a movie with, which I remember just from a kid,

it's a Chuck Norris movie called Forced Vengeance. I always remember it because it looks like he's breaking out of the VHS cover box. Like his elbow is like cracking through the front. I remember that cover, but I've never seen it. Yeah. And then follows that up with Voyage of the Rock Aliens and never makes another movie again.

But he was coming off of two giant hits with Clint Eastwood, like a huge dirty hairy movie, and a huge comedy dirty hair. He's not like, I mean, a lot of times in these movies, we talk about like, oh, well, you know, this is a guy who never directed anything. Oh, he did this, he did that. Like this guy is coming off of a successful run

of two big movies. What's fascinating about this movie is that it's got tons of characters, tons of songs, no story, no plot. The only discernible kind of emotional story that you can track is the mechanic girl and the serial killer and the chainsaw serial killer. So true. That was the onlyarest, cleanest. They are the only people who have a beginning, middle,

and an end where they go through a change, where their lives are changed by each other. Because how does it even really end? Their ship is wrecked at the end and then that's it. They just go home. What do you mean? I'm trying to remember, how does it even end now? How does the movie end? Yeah, they just go do you mean? I'm trying to remember, like, how does it even end now? Like, I'm like, I'm even... Like, the end is...

How does the movie end? Yeah, like, they just go home. I mean, I know that they defeat the alien, but like, their ship is kind of destroyed, but they go home, right? The aliens? I'm assuming so. Yeah, I mean, it's not... Their story isn't even very...

It's not like, and that's what we learned, and we're out of here. It's like, the fact that we don't remember... No, because basically, the end of the movie is the Pia Zedora Frankie duet. Right, and they're not our main characters. Which is all on green screen. Yeah.

Which is like, I'm just scrubbing through right now. It's green screen with like, behind them is like the sky, or people are on windsurfing, like it's nuts. And then there's like a brief moment with the aliens and then their ship just leaves our solar system. That's it. Before we get into second opinions, I wanna talk about the scene

when he admits that he's an alien. I'm an alien. That's okay, there's lots of English fans. What about Menudo? We'll get you a good immigration lawyer and you'll have your green card and citizenship papers in no time. No, I mean, I'm from another planet. Wow. But you know, I guess it's not surprising I'd fall for an alien.

Lois Lane fell for Superman. There have been lots of mixed couples like that. There's Faye Ray and King Kong. The fact that she's like, oh, it's mixed couples are that. There's Fei-Rui and King Kong. But the fact that she's like, oh, it's mixed couples are fine. She's so open to Fei-Rui and King Kong as a, Oh yes. As a romantic couple. As a romantic couple, like that's her. They made it work.

They made it work. They didn't make it work. They were not in love. Oh my God. Well, she had her eye on the prize. She was like, yes, she was like, I've only been thinking in this like limited way of this earthly market for music.

Like there might be a whole other. Here's what I'll say. I'm gonna offer a different read on this movie, which is Pia Zadora has been traveling from planet to planet, trying to be the star. Whoa. Trying to be the lead singer, trying to be the star. And on the Mad Max, Jermaine Jackson planet,

it's like, there's too much violence. The gangs can't get along. And so she finally travels to Earth, and Earth still has all of this kind of, the men are fighting and the men won't let her sing or whatever. And it takes these aliens to show the men of Earth that they should let Pia Zadora sing, let her sing.

And boom, she does and she's incredible. So I think the movie is about her traveling from planet to planet, trying to find her spotlight or whatever, trying to find her moment. And this is it. I don't know. I love that. Look, it's happened again.

You know, we normally come to this part of the show and we say, you know, clearly we have an opinion but there are people out there with a different opinion. But honestly, we are sharing the opinions here because we think this movie is genius. You know, clearly we have an opinion, but there are people out there with a different opinion, but honestly We are sharing the opinions here because we think this movie is genius. It is now time for a Second opinion, which is truly just our opinions. Hit the theme They're not your first, but they're gonna be a second Alright, these are five star reviews, cold from Amazon. 97 reviews of this, 63% are five stars, which we agree with.

And I'm gonna say, we agree with these opinions. This one by Kelly R is, my life is now divided into before Votra, which is Voyager of the Rock Aliens, and after Votra. 21st Century is the dreamiest, catchiest bop. The B-story romance of Allison LaPlaca's character Diane moved me to tears. Ruth Gordon is in this movie rarely enough that every time you see her, you go, oh, yeah, Ruth Gordon. I don't know how I went four decades

without this film in my life, but I stumbled upon it at last, and I am so grateful. Five stars. And you know what? I feel the same way. This one from Teasley Nielsen Kirby says, I'm only part way finished and it's difficult to swallow all at once, but I love this movie so much.

A masterpiece of sorts. Five stars. It is. I agree. And then again, like I'm scrubbing through and the fashions and the hairstyles are all perfect. Like you can't, like when people try and do 80s set movies now, they blow it. This is it.

Well, that's what I'm saying, like even- This weird combination of like new wavy kind of modern, poppy colors, big bangs, like the big bangs going up and going down, that whole situation, but then also 50s pompadours and all that bullshit. It all works. Like it's all represented. What I'll say too is like, I know I said that thing,

it's like a corporate retreat trying to make a TikTok, but there's something also about that that is so dynamic as well. Yes. Now, June, here's what I'll say. This is one that you may agree with or disagree with. But I'm going to throw it out there. We've talked about it a lot. Donna Lynn Gerhard wrote this.

This film ranks alongside Grease 2 as the greatest musical ever, five stars. June, what do you think? I disagree. But I loved this movie. Grease 2, like thinking about your reading of this movie, Jason, I'm like, yeah, that would have been great,

but she should have ended up with a solo career. And I maintain that like Stephanie's a no-me. I don't really think that. Yeah, I just think, yeah, it doesn't compare to Grease 2, but we don't need to compare them. Right. And if I'm, I'll be honest, like, I would be thrilled to show anybody this movie.

To show somebody Grease 2 would be great, but there is a way in which I almost feel like I'd have to show somebody Greece too would be great, but there is a way in which I almost feel like I'd have to show them Greece, you know, or something versus I feel like I could drop this on and people would just freak out. Like also, I think there's something wonderful about, and I don't know, maybe I'm just wrong, but it sounds like it was the same for you two.

I've never even heard of this. This is not, I don't know. Thank you to our producer, Avrilill Halley, for finding this. And she talked about this movie, and I've been putting it off a little bit because, oh, it sounds like a little bit like, maybe it would, I was nervous that it would fall into that category of like, oh, OK. But I always trust Averill, and my gosh,

I'm so happy that we got to it when we did it. I almost feel like it's a great palate cleanser to start our new year off with, you know, even after Shadow in the Clouds. Because that movie also is bizarre and weird, but... I'm sorry, you guys. I'm just jumping off of the Zoom. Okay, bye. And unfortunately, that was June. She has to go.

She's talking to our pediatrician. But yeah, no, this is a movie I want to see in a theater with a bunch of people. It makes me excited. Like, what we should do... This is, this, I would a movie I wanna see in a theater with a bunch of people. It makes me excited. What we should do... Like, this is, this, this, I would want this to be like a how did this get made screening at the Alamo Draft House type of thing.

I'm gonna, when we get a little bit past where we are in COVID, I'm gonna talk to Alamo and we are gonna host this at Alamo Draft House. I think this is it. An audience would fucking lose their minds over this. It's so funny. But it needs to be seen. Fun, yes.

This is the movie, this is the movie. I mean, this is it. And it's like, and the fact that it's only on YouTube for free is, ugh. Oh no, I rented it on Amazon. Oh you did? Or no, I watched it on Amazon. Oh wow, oh, okay great.

I didn't even, I don't even think I had to rent it. Okay, I was gonna say, I watched it on YouTube. I was like, it was great that it was just like full there. Oh no, I watched it on Amazon. Oh, wow, oh, okay, great. I don't even think I had to rent it. Okay, I was gonna say, I watched it on YouTube. I was like, it was great that it was just full there. Oh, no, I watched it on Amazon, yeah. Oh, that's interesting. Oh, but that's why, well, I see, that's why, because mine only says, Voyage of the Rock Aliens. Okay, so when I saw it, it was, the title said,

Voyage of the Rock Aliens, and then with the colon, Let's Dance Tonight. There's so much, I'm just, again, scrubbing through. There are so many scenes we haven't talked about, and I don't even know what happens in them. We should just do another episode. Let's do another episode. We gotta.

Let's re-watch it and do another episode. This almost should be our New Year's resolution. Every year we watch this movie and just come back to it. Like, what have we learned? We've talked about doing that for our first episode. We should do that for this. Well, this has been, I mean, like, what have we learned? We've talked about doing that for our first episode. We should do that for this. Well, this has been, I mean, yeah, I'm changed. We all are. Jason, a lot of...

I 100% recommend it. A lot of press on this new role that you got. I've known about this for a while, and I've forgotten to talk to you about it. And to see people's reaction to this new role, you want to maybe tell everybody what you have going on? TITUS Oh, yes. I believe you are talking about the fact that it has been announced that I will be playing the voice

of Tommy Lee's penis in the Pam and Tommy Lee Hulu series. That Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg and Craig Gillespie and a bunch of great people are making. And I didn't realize that that penis conversation that you are voicing was in a book. Like it was- Yes, it's a real moment from Tommy Lee's memoir where he talks about how after he met Pam,

he had to have like a talk to his penis. He had to talk to his penis because he like, and in the book, it's like a conversation with his dick about like, I think I'm in love. And his dick is basically like, being like, whoa, whoa, whoa, man, are you sure? You know, it's, it's, I mean, the, it's nuts. It's pretty nuts, I will say.

I am so excited to see this and meet with a great cast. And man, I love these stories that are also completely reinventing what I thought was something I knew about. Oh, yeah, sure. In a completely new way. I'm in this brand new series that I really think is great. Ed Helms, our friend Ed Helms and Randall Park, who you know

from our face-off episode, he, they have created a show called True Story where they interview real people about things that have happened in their life, and then they dramatize those stories. And Adam Pally and I are in one about a guy who snuck into the locker room of the Steelers after they won the Super Bowl and got on the bus to the...

Oh, funny. He didn't even have tickets to the Super Bowl. Pally plays that guy, I play the equipment manager. That's great. They're great stories, it's funny, it's sweet, and Ed and Randall interview, and they got a great cast. It's kind of like, if you like drunk history, it, I think, has some similarities

without being exactly that, because it is, these are the people telling their stories. They're narrating their own stories. It's a first person telling, first person storytelling, not like telling some other story. Yes, and it's directed by the great Jordan Rubin, who is also a friend of the show, and super fun. And now, if June was here, I'm sure she would tell you to check out the Jane club.

You know, there's a bunch of great stuff going on there. You could also be listening to the deep dive with her and Jessica St. Claire, get it wherever podcasts are heard. It's a great show. And I love listening to the two of them, even though I'm not allowed to. So every now and then people tell me and then I'll, it sounds great, but I'm forbidden to listen to it. And now let me just give a big thanks to our producer Cody Fisher, our producer Molly Reynolds,

our engineer Devon Bryant, our other movie finding producer, Avril Haley. Thank you for bringing this movie into our lives. You've forever changed us once again. I don't know how you manage to do it, but you do it all the time Make sure you check out movie bitches on YouTube Nate Kylie finding research on this movie hard to do and he did it And of course July Diaz making sure that this episode always sounds smooth and cool The art is provided by the great people that we have met on Instagram and Facebook That is Zach McAleese at the Ghost of Craig D. Nelson on Instagram.

And of course, Kyle Waldron, who has made all of our Facebook and now our Instagram posts with all the quotes from the show. If you want to get a shirt for this episode, and the shirt is simply a beautiful silhouette of Piazadora with that tentacle sneaking up behind her. Will it get her? Of course not. But now you can have it in any way you want it. Just go to teapubic.com, type in how did this get made and you will see it probably is on sale. You can get it as a sticker, you can get it as a hoodie, you can get it as a

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