How Did This Get Made? - War of the Worlds (2025)

Episode Date: September 5, 2025

Ice Cube saves the world from aliens via Amazon Prime and Microsoft Teams?! You all demanded it, so Paul, June, and Jason got their butts into the studio to cover all the mouse-clicking, keyboard-clacking, and front-facing video calls in the new War of the Worlds reboot. They discuss the Tesla ambulance, how Ice Cube plays a straight up stalker, the heroic Amazon Prime Air Drone, the packing tape tourniquet, the bonkers computer drop-down menu options, if the aliens want our nude pics, and so much more. Plus, the gang debate the correct way to pronounce "data" and Paul goes out of his way to clarify he knows his own children. • Go to hdtgm.com for tour dates, merch, FAQs, and more• Have a Last Looks correction or omission? Call 619-PAULASK to leave us a voicemail!• Submit your Last Looks theme song to us here• Join the HDTGM conversation on Discord: discord.gg/hdtgm• Buy merch at howdidthisgetmade.dashery.com/• Order Paul’s book about his childhood: Joyful Recollections of Trauma• Shop our new hat collection at podswag.com• Paul’s Discord: discord.gg/paulscheer• Paul’s YouTube page: youtube.com/paulscheer• Follow Paul on Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/paulscheer• Subscribe to Enter The Dark Web w/ Paul & Rob Huebel: youtube.com/@enterthedarkweb• Listen to Unspooled with Paul & Amy Nicholson: unspooledpodcast.com• Listen to The Deep Dive with June & Jessica St. Clair: thedeepdiveacademy.com/podcast• Instagram: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & @junediane• Twitter: @hdtgm, @paulscheer, & msjunediane  • Jason is not on social media• Episode transcripts available at how-did-this-get-made.simplecast.com/episodesGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using the link: siriusxm.com/hdtgm

Log into your Facebook, check your WhatsApp, secure your Apple Watch, charge your Tesla, and check out your Amazon cart, because we saw 2025's War the Worlds, so you know what that means. Here we go. Now it's time for how to this campaign, we're going to have a good time, celebrate some failure, not just be a hater, because you know you wonder, how did this campaign? Let's want to win the mediocrity of subpar art. Perhaps we'll find the answer to the question. How did this get made? Hello, people of Earth and beyond. It's the movie taking the internet by storm since its release only a few weeks ago.

Ice Cube and a retelling of H.G. Wells, War of the Worlds, one man, one computer screen, and a lot of product placement. And an attempt to keep this show slightly on track because I know I could spend an hour pulling apart the first 10 minutes. Let's just say this. Ice Cube plays Will Radford, a badass surveillance programmer who can monitor every person on earth. However, his relationship with his pregnant daughter and son is strained because he is stalking them. Oh, and today is the day that the aliens attack.

Anyway, let's meet my co-host, Jason Manzoukis and June, Diane Rayfield. How are you both? Wow. Wow, wow, wow. This was something else. This gave me, like, this gave me a panic attack. like too many open active windows on his desktop i didn't like i didn't it was stressing me out how much clicking around this movie entailed from moment one that click click click click click yeah didn't like

he's in the office of homeland security yeah right he is this expert hacker surveiler whatever you want to say he works alone in an office with multiple desks and computer screens Wow, good point. Well, okay, so I thought, before I realized it had just come out, I thought that it was a COVID movie. And I was like, oh, this is so smart. Like, this was made on March 14th, 2020, and they had to all be separate. Everybody just had their iPhones and a computer screen, and they just shot it. Yeah, three weeks after our Vancouver show where Paul absolutely had COVID.

Yes, and Paul spread it internationally. Yep. single-handedly. But I was like, oh, this is a COVID movie and well done. Yeah. You know, well done. By the way, June, it was a COVID movie. What?

It was shot right at the beginning of COVID. Okay. So then. So then you know what? The summer and fall of 2020. So why force it on us now? Well, I mean, I assume they've taken the past five years just to really dial in the visual effects.

I think at a certain point, you may say, let's take a loss on this one. Yeah. You know, I don't know why it was delayed so heavily, because to your point, June, it's not a movie that requires a tremendous amount of work in the, I guess, maybe the computer screens, I don't know. Yeah, what do you mean? Everything looks like a docu sign. Nothing looks real. Nothing looks like it's good. His cursor is the little hand cursor.

It looks like a kid's computer he's on. And the Department of Homeland Security would have hundreds and hundreds of analysts working at desks with multiple monitors, not like one sixty-three-year-old man. Well, I would understand that if he had gone into the office at like 5 a.m. And then they went into lockdown, but he's there at 9 a. On a Sunday. It's a Sunday? I think someone says it's Sunday at one point. I believe it is a weekend because that's why the Secretary of Defense is outgolfing.

Yeah. With a cigar. Yes. And that's also why our other Homeland Security Chief, Clark Gregg, was working out in his office. Oh, yeah. Just doing a home gym in his, like work office, not like a home office. Getting sacked. Oh, my gosh.

Jacked. I appreciate then that they did this during COVID. That does. I do because I'm like, this is people, we were trying to. You guys don't remember. we were all trying to do the best we could. Listen, I appreciate that they made it. I don't think we needed to have it released.

I don't think it needed to be disseminated. Sure. If you want to make movies as like something to do, great. That's what we watched. We watched people doing something for the sake of doing something. Yes, we watched people who weren't comfortable being bored at home. Who couldn't read at home and just, and get through it. Well, I mean, this is the thing, though, this movie, Grant, fourth retelling of War of the Worlds, right?

We've seen it multiple times. This is a different way of doing it. But by putting him in this position where he's also kind of like a stalker, he is a straight up stalker. He is not only stalking his children. He is stalking the refrigerator of his children. Like, there's a camera. Yeah. Like, I know that there are cameras on the outside of fridges.

I've never known, yeah, like, there's a, so you can do, like, Zooms and, like, family, like, conversations like that. I do think there are now smart fridges that can scan what's inside your fridge. Wow. That's part of their thing. They're being like, oh, we know when you're low on milk or whatever. Which, it does sound wonderful, but here's what I did not understand. I mean, I could use that. It does sound wonderful, but here's what I didn't understand.

My fridge keeps texting me, you up. you they he already seems to be running the world okay so eyes seems to be eyes on everything listening to conversations knowing what people are about to do following them in fringes in food orders now what i could not for life and we understand is like well if he's all we're already able to do that what what is the difference between him and the technology He's giving a little up. And Galileo or Goliath or whatever that thing was called. So he's using a program called Guardian, which seems to be very robust in its ability to break passwords and hack into people's stuff. He's able to delete his son's video game from his game console or whatever.

Like he's very invasive. So what must Goliath do? I mean, he is so invasive that at one point he pulls like a, a. an FBI most wanted list, clicks on the person that he wants to follow for that day and then zooms in on the literal block that he is living on. And then everything comes through him. Like, people are asking him for warrants. NASA is, like, NASA, what's going on?

He's on every level. He is dealing with Eva Longoria, who I believe is NASA or weather adjacent. NASA. Well, she's NASA because you know. that when she popped up on screen, it says, like, Susan, NASA, right? Sondra. By the way, I want to say, if everyone who's acting by themselves in this film, Eva Longoria, like, I am all in on her.

Oh, yeah. They just saw her on Brooklyn 9-9, and I was like, this is great. But she kind of brings, like, it all together. This is an insane thing, and every time she comes on screen, I relax a little bit. I'm like, okay, we're in good hands here. Yes. Like she at least knew how to set up her camera and get a good angle on herself and a good performance, whereas I feel like maybe some of the Ice Cube ones were right out of it,

like one or one and done. Well, here's the thing. Now, I have, I have definitely FaceTimed moving around, but very rarely because it's so difficult and to be, to hold the phone out and to talk to someone, but then also make sure that you're going where you need to go. And I just, I couldn't I get over the number. of times people in this movie are dear friend Andrew Savage included. You know, they are in mortal danger. Yeah. And still filming themselves. They are FaceTime. And I think the movie wants

us to believe we're getting access to like their body cams. But their body cameras wouldn't be pointed in a one or a one shot, a one shot rather of their faces. Andrea is putting on her tactical gear and the shot is from the trunk at her. There is no camera that what? She didn't put down her phone. There is a lot of time where we don't know why the camera's there and also great for iPhone because they get a, they take a licking and keep on ticking. I mean, these aliens are shooting lasers and they're working fine. This is a second later. Oh, no. The only thing that is more robust in terms of all of the computers and all of the phones is anything that Amazon touches, whether it's drones or packing tape or vans or vans or

or drivers. Amazon is the hero of the movie. And I really, when I saw the driver in the beginning and I realized we were watching on Amazon Prime, I thought, well, for sure, they're not going to have, like, Amazon be the, you know, like the thing that saves the world, the world. Yeah. Okay. The planet. Yep. And I thought that's going to be, that's crazy.

Like, I like this guy. He's an Amazon drive. Like, it's all, but they're not going to do that. They did. Oh, yeah. they did everybody in the movie is pretty stupid you know like there's a thing where evil angoria's like they're moving they're on the go they're changing direction or whatever and everybody's doing their like hacking furiously clicking their keyboards and trying to figure out

and and and ice cubes going through one million different windows for different tracking this is and that and then this is when they figure out that they're going after all the data Holy shit. This whole attack is just a big diversion to get those tripods to the data centers. And those tripos are just Trojan horses to get those little bugs into the servers

to get to the data. And he's like, oh, it's data. And he clicks in like government data facilities and it populates pictures of all the government data facilities which now have the robots just standing outside of them.

Just fingering them. All these robots are just fingering I was like, you didn't need to, you lost. They've already gotten there. Like, anybody with just looking at it, like, you've not cracked the code. You're so behind. Obviously, they're at the data centers. They're there already.

Of course. Right. They're there. Just look at them. Yes. But what I could not for the life of me under. Well, first of all, it seems to be daytime everywhere in the world. Yes.

So it's the same time. The armies are not going to get. Is this movie in real time? It seems to be in real time. We'll bring that up in a little bit because I do have some questions about that as well. I have some questions about that too. But what we watch ultimately,

meteors hit the Earth. They hit the satellites first to take them out so we have no warning, which, by the way, I'm like, how did they even know that that was the intention? They keep on saying we realized they intentionally hit the satellites. How?

Don't know. How? Well, they guess they're ships. The meteors are ships. Goliath. Goliath was able to hack the, the, uh, hack the aliens, uh, I chat. So, so, but then all of the world's infrastructure starts to fall apart.

Uh, we're talking power grids, gas lines, everything. They've, now they're in our data. Now they are dealing with them. They've taken down our militaries globally. But what they couldn't stop was news alerts. Oh. Oh, people are still broadcasting. I mean, there's a moment.

Yeah, go ahead. Where the, the meteor has. just crash landed on Earth. And if we're in the real time of this world, that means that they got a reporter out to a meteor that has landed. She stands there and then is blown up immediately, immediately. Here's what I'll say. This movie exists in a world in which Fox News is interested in telling the truth.

Yeah, Fox News is shocking. Like, the way this movie could have been better is if every time they cut to the Fox News people, they weren't covering the invasion at all. They were covering like Hillary's emails. You know, like, that's what I wanted. Right, that's the data they were going after. That would be the great joke if the movie was interested in it. But no, they do keep cutting back to Fox and Foxes reporting the same information that CNN is and all the other news sources.

Here's what I want to bring up. The biggest flaw in this movie, the thing that makes me not trust anything from a technology perspective in this film is that they're all on fucking. Microsoft Teams. You can have a more jankier video service. Like when someone tells me they want to have a meeting on Microsoft Teams, I want to turn down that meeting. I don't even want to go. You're barely going to get me on a Google meet. Yeah. Barely. What is this a hangout? The other thing I need to bring up is this is a man. Ice Cube. He has lost his wife. How? An illness. Well, I don't think an illness because she leaves a message like, hey, be nice to the kids and take out the trash. I think she was like hitting a hit and run. Oh, interesting. Because that was the last

message. No, doesn't the daughter say you couldn't, you know, when she gives her, her monologue about you, you don't have as much power as you think you do, you couldn't stop mom from getting sick. Oh, I thought it was like so. I think that's just an old voicemail. He listens to it. I don't think on Facebook, by the way. That's the issue. Why is the head of the NSA getting very? I think voicemails on Facebook. He's like so active on Facebook. He's like so like that's the thing is I kind of also wish there had been other open windows that he was interacting with that were like he also had an instant cart order he was waiting for. He also was like, I gotta get swiping on Bumble. Like I wish that he was just not so just clicking on hacking sites and password generators.

Oh my God. Yeah, I wanted to see him playing MindSuite. in the background, too. Yes, got it. Now, he originally was supposed to be paraplegic, but when the director saw how exciting it was that he threw his chair, he was like, he should walk. Now, and I heard that. I was like, that's interesting.

But then I'm like, well, how would the whole end of the movie play out? Because a majority of the third act is him running through a building to catch an Amazon prime drone. Oh, my God. This drone, to me, was one of the best things ever because Like he needs to poison the database with this zip drive. But before he can do it, he has to order a zip drive just to signal, I guess, the drone can't even work. Yes, the guy can't fly. Mark, the Amazon driver has access to an Amazon drone.

He is the daughter's baby daddy. Baby daddy is on surveillance footage because whenever the daughter walks by, it says baby daddy on it. Okay, got it. So he's the baby daddy. They're not married, but nonetheless, she's very, very pregnant. He applies a tourniquet to her injured leg with packing tape, with Amazon packing tape. I mean, it's pretty strong. This is some wild shit.

Yeah, it's great idea. But I just don't understand in the world of the movie why we needed to see him add a zip drive to cart for that drone to fly. Just to see how easy it is to order quickly on Amazon and see that, you know, it's just an ad. It's an ad. Like, even in the end times, you can order and receive exactly what you ordered instantly. Well, this is what I do love about it, is that this is a world in which aliens are attacking. Cities are being destroyed. And when they tell this, you know, homeless guy, like, hey, we'll give you a free cell phone service.

He is not moved by that. But when they say, we'll give you a thousand dollar Amazon gift card. He risks his life to flip the drone. over, insane stuff. The world is ending. People are making decisions. And like, that's the other thing too. Like, yeah, you got to add the, you got to add the zip drive to cart because here's

the flaw of that is ideally the drone would then pick up the zip drive from the depot and then mail it out. But he's, he's just thinking his own zip drive, putting it in the drone. And then flying it with the most complicated VR goggles. I'm like, if that's the few. Is it just one person just flying drones and drop it? I don't know, but it's honestly, like, problematic because you would think the drone would know I have got to go to the depot. Yeah, yes.

That's my first stop. Like, how is he cutting it through? Because he's carrying it in a backpack. He's run across the city. There's no QR code. There's no, I don't know. There's no address. But it really is, the movie is interested in your shopping experience, showing you an Amazon shopping experience.

experience. I did like those clicks. I'm genuinely shocked. It was only like one click, to be honest. It was by it now, I think. I did. I think. Buy it now. And then just use current location. And I was shocked. And is that an option on Amazon? Use current

location. Department of Homeland Security. And then he flies into the building. The Amazon driver is able to move the drone through the buildings, cubicles, hallways, stairwell, Wells of the Department of Homeland Security.

But this is the exciting news is that we did get a preview because he said, you know, they've been training us on this. Yes. And so it seems so wild to us now. But like I bet within this calendar year, we will have drones flying into our homes and delivering like Q-tips right to our bathroom. Like right into our ears. It's going to be so great. By the way, we're just talking about the end.

There's so much before. But I will say that the fact that Ice Cube is able to give his son access to another drone, not an Amazon Prime drone, but another drone to run like strafing fire against the aliens. I couldn't understand that. Oh, yeah. I couldn't understand that. And those drones have missiles on it? Like military drones? Yeah.

Yeah. Well, I laughed so hard earlier in the. movie when the son's walking down the street he's already been attacked but you know the meteors have come they're attacking and i assume both to his son and his daughter just keeps on screaming get away from that get out of there now stay clear of that stuff get out of there get out of there run get out of there and i kept on saying to where where to where are you going to go where would you like them to go and he's telling them he's a go straight make a left i'm like where Where are they going to get to that will be safe from the giant alien ships that are firing?

Although here's the thing about the aliens, though. They don't seem to concern actually with killing people. No. Only like if they're being attacked by helicopters or whatever. Only push comes to shut. Yes. They're not just destructive in terms of like walking down the street, you know, zapping everybody. No, they're not.

What do you think, though, that they actually, what do they want to do with that data? They want everybody's nudes. But seriously, what are they doing? They're feeding. Like, I think that they're vampires that feed on data and they're just finding planets with data. So when they get data, more little ones are born? Is that what those little insects were? All the little bugs.

I liked the little bugs element of it. But I don't think they ever figured out a meaningful way to take. tell us what was the bad guy's plan? Like, I guess I understand how we stopped them by poisoning the data or whatever, but like twice, by the way, we do that twice. Yeah. Right? We give them one virus that's kind of okay.

And then one virus that's kind of partly a human virus because. Yeah, I think one of them we gave them was COVID-19. Well, yeah. And I don't, I didn't know how they were half biological and half cyber, which Eva Longoria says multiple times. But I believed her when she said it. Oh, absolutely. And the smoking gun information that Ice Cube's son gives him that illustrates all of this is the case is basically 12 PDFs that are just old documents showing that aliens have come before in the past.

I was like, this is not nearly enough information. This is just basically 12 single documents that he gets to open and be like, they've been lying to us the whole time. But, but what have they? what have they been doing with that data? Yeah, we don't know. We don't know. None of it solves any of the questions. It just proves to him that he's been lied to.

And because Goliath is, because there's so much data that's about to come in, that's somehow triggered the aliens? I think so. Like, I think Goliath is so much more data rich that it's like too, too attractive to them. Well, I mean, but here's the other thing. His job is spying. Like, at certain points, it's not just about people in the United States. He's pulling up camera views of everywhere.

So he is, and I just want to go back to this because why is what the government doing wrong and what he is doing on a daily basis, even to his own family, right? It's not. That's what I wanted to say to his son, too. It's like focused on just what Pops is up to. Yeah. I mean, I do all. also just want to get into, he is the head of NSA surveillance.

Domestic. Domestic. And he is tasked with analyzing this situation. At one point, the president's like, all right, what do you got? And we know, we know that he, we know what he's been doing because we've been watching in real time. And he gives a full-throated, analyzed version of what has happening. Mr. President, gentlemen, we're seeing a full attack on our infrastructure, on power

grid, water, communication, and top-level military targets. They knew exactly where they were going and they are systematically eliminating resources and our ability to coordinate a response. Here, let me show you. These locations are our global response headquarters, our most sensitive targets, and they're taking them out one by one. Based on their prioritized destruction of these critical intelligence command centers, My analysis suggests nuclear power facilities are next.

Electric grids will follow, leaving us completely helpless. Do you see that? They're grouping to concentrate their attack. Exactly. And they will be much stronger in groups. So if we concentrate our armed response assets to our high-priority locations, we can hit as many as possible. I think it's the only option we have right now.

How do you know? Yeah. How do you know? Yeah, he has taken it in. He's analyzed it and he's giving, he is reporting out like a very high level kind of summary. And we never saw any of those pieces coming together. Honestly, most of what he's done has been to alter the electronics in a Tesla that he got his daughter in so that it would have higher battery to get her farther away from the bad guy. And by the way, I know that a Tesla, if you're a down on 12,

it's just going to drive right to a charging station. It's not going to allow you to go on the road with that little of a charge. But where does he send her? To a hospital? No. No, Paul. They're all full. They're just in an office, it looks like.

He just sent her to like an abandoned office. Yes, an office park. By the way, Scott wants to point out that his official title is domestic terror analyst. Now, I don't know much about much, but it seems like when your title is just analyst, that you're pretty low level. He's too old to have this job. He's too old to have this job, but it's like you are, if I don't see a head of or anything like that on your title,

like I am concerned that you are being led into these zooms, and he's always late, with the president. He's on with the president. So he should have dozens and dozens and dozens of people who are doing exactly what he is doing. And if he talks to the president, he shouldn't be doing that many clicks. Well, and also I will say that the president should be in a safe room, not in the Oval Office. The president is fully not protected.

Well, it's hard to trust anyone's background, Paul, because what we'll find out later on is, of course, that this hacker we've been looking for the whole time, the disruptor, is actually his son after all. And the fact that he couldn't figure that out makes me think, He's dumb. Absolutely terrible. The dumbest. Because he should have, he has on his computer, his son's location everywhere. Listen, the, the, guys, when he photoshopped himself and really, also, when did he cut that YouTube video together? He cut, like, a meme video.

He built, he made a real. He built a meme video with, like, all sorts of specifics and jokes in it. And, like, I was like, what the fuck? He did a great job on Cap Cut. But here's my question. When the sun is, when we think he's at his actual home, which is Ice Cube's home, when we think he's there, there's a giant explosion, which Ice Cube is tracking and... The aliens come to Ice Cube's house. Correct, and destroy it.

But the sun reacts to it so strongly. The camera goes flying. Things are happening. The camera's on the ground with soot on it. But then we find out. that he is not at his home. He's at one of the other hackers' homes

and has a backdrop like a screen that he pulls down. What was he reacting to? Who knows? Well, I think the aliens, I think, were coming for all of the hackers. His whole disruptor team got attacked at one

point. Do you think that he was just maybe like having like Phantom like June, going to see a horror movie with you? You jump out of your seat. So maybe, uh, maybe like when that explosion happened, he's like, oh, he just like, he just kind of had his own. Yeah, he shouldn't have gone anywhere. I loved that during the whole attack, like, there's still an element that is monitoring like social media. Like, there's hashtag free earth. Like, yes. Ice Cube is somehow monitoring social media as well. Again,

this is a 60 year old man. Like, the world is ending. The world is clearly. People have access to internet still. Like, they took down a lot. But they didn't take down our Wi-Fi. Although at one point, didn't they say they took down all the power? Yeah, they got our Wi-Fi. People still got a post. We have to. That's when I will start posting.

That's, by the way, you keep on saying he's old in this movie, and I don't disagree. That's why I wanted him to do more like hunting and pecking. I wanted to type me like, yeah, tink, tink, tunk, tung, tung, tunk, tong. Like, just really. I was obsessed with the fact that, well, also, the idea that his daughter and her baby daddy would be on Facebook is the only flaw of the movie, to be honest. But, like, that's absurd. They're only communicating on Facebook. Everybody's communicating on Facebook.

It's the most important app in everyone's lives. But I laughed so hard when the, when everything's all right at the end. Oh, this is incredible. He saves the world. And then on Facebook. we get to see pictures of her baby shower, and there are four people there. Five. The five cast members of the movie.

Yeah. Okay. So you're right. It's the two kids. It's Mark and it's Evil Angoria. Yes. So are we to believe that they are now a couple? I hope so.

Oh, that would be wonderful. I'd like to see him get back out there. I would love it if they were the only five people who survived on Earth. Because she's the head of NASA. At the end of the movie, she becomes the head. head of NASA. She's in front of the White House. Maybe they needed to shoot that scene in 2025 just to finish the film because after COVID protocols are lifted, we can finally get the five gas. I mean, five years later, we, I mean, NASA basically doesn't even exist anymore

as an entity. Like, we live in a post-NASA world right now. I guess I did have a problem that the president was so quick, like he's hearing, okay, aliens have attacked, the meteors are things, they're taking our data, and he goes, well, I see no other option to initiate this war of the world to save us all. He does say the titular line. Oh, yeah. Which is repeated multiple times, too. And then, like, Ice Cube is like, yes, yes.

Like, he's psyched. Like, it's a football game. Like, finally, finally we are in this. Finally, we've got a war of the world. Honestly, as though everyone's been waiting for this and preparing for it. Yeah. And they keep on saying on the front lines. Where are the front lines?

Every shot of the globe, it seems like they're everywhere. Yeah, in the daytime. And we're losing. All of our ships have capsized. All of our planes are falling out of the sky. We are losing in a way that is shocking. But they barely show because mostly what we see is a cacophony of drop-down menus. There are shots in this thing where I just wrote down some of the things that are available in drop-down menus.

on ice cubes and one of them is this is just an option in one of his drop down menus show sensitive government addresses that's an option he can click show sensitive government addresses but then some of the other options are just copy like there's such a range of options in that drop down it is yeah like it might as well also be like a thought the thumbs up emoji like it is absolute madness what is what he has at his fingertips and also how it's it's what you were saying earlier paul about him acting like he was at like a his kid's sporting event or something right like it's the same thing we had with um when hugh jackman was a hacker in whatever hacker movie that was oh yeah uh yeah sort fish there's an element of trying to give intensity and action and emotion to

what is such a just flat I'm just typing on a computer to try and give it weight, to try and give it stakes. And that is why he's late to so many high level meetings because Sandra NASA's calling. People are always

calling in when he's doing something else. He's on the phone with someone. Someone else is calling in. Everybody's got to be on video. You'll never get a phone call in this movie. Just a straight up audio. You have got to be on video and that's the way that urgency is, is created in this, which is so

wild. I mean, my favorite moment, though, is when his son reveals that he is the disruptor, the person they've been chasing, he goes, it's you. It's you. Yeah. Well, yes, kind of. How could you, man? How could you?

My own son is hacking the government. It's you. It's you. It's you, like out of his chair. And there's a couple moments when he gets out of his chair. That's probably my favorite. But the second is when clearly as an actor, Ice Cube understands he can't leave this room. So he runs to the most flimsy glass door, like where if you pull in the door,

it kind of makes a clunk, clunk, clunk, clung, clung sound. You know, it's like it's not even sealed. He runs that glass door. It's locked. Like, it's locked from the inside. I'm like, what? That door doesn't even seem to have a little. lock on it. And if it did, a strong push would break it. Like, he's not in a secure room. He's

in a office that most normal offices. He's in a conference room in West Hollywood. Yes. Let me be clear. He's in, like, his manager's office. Well, but here's the thing, though, like, I do wish, I do wish they had some, we had some sense of like, oh, these aliens have a certain McKillies heal. They can't go into great. I would love this. Like they can't they're they can't go into coffee shops. They can't go whatever it is because they are half human like there's something about them. But as it stands, there is no. They are susceptible to

COVID-19. Yeah. There is no safe place. So yeah, the department of terror analysis or whatever is on lockdown. But what does it mean? Nobody is safe in this world. Well, also, how come the aliens haven't attacked the building he's in, which is where, like, Goliath is? They should have just come right to that. That was their last stop, Jason. I guess so, yeah. Yeah, just was like last on the agenda. The way the movie is set up, he's alone, I believe, on a Sunday or on a weekend or whatever, at the Department of Homeland Security, which suggests to us that they take the weekends off entirely. Yes.

The entire Department of Homeland Security takes weekends off. Right, because there's no one in the entire building. Clark is like, what are you doing there? Why are you at work? And what? If he wasn't, the building would be empty. Yeah, it seems someone should be there 24-7. But by the way, it seems like they're doing a very important thing,

which is bringing down the disruptor today, who's like number 12 on the most wanted list. And it seems like Andrea Savage is like, I need the warrant. And he's getting a warrant. He's getting a search warrant for the FBI. Why is she even reporting to him? She reports to him multiple times.

I'm like, you're the FBI. He is an analyst. Again, he's doing too much and also not nearly enough. Well, you're so right, because on the one hand, he runs the world. Yes. Like, truly he runs the world. Alone.

Alone in that office. Yes. But at the same time, like, he has, he also seems to have no idea what's happening and is making all, like, terrible decisions. Yeah. Well, there's another thing that I've just been realizing, too. Like, we're supposed to believe that he is smart, but he stops these aliens by putting a 128 gig, like, hard drive in. Like, USBA. Right, which, by the way, so I just Googled that as we were talking here.

It goes, a 128 gig hard drive is suitable for basic use. Oh, yeah. But moderate. It would not be sufficient for users who need a game or a software. You couldn't even put like a high fidelity album on 128. I have a 4 terabyte or like a small sand disk that's tiny. Like just up it, guys. Like if we're taking down the entire data system.

Make it sound big. That's what I mean. by when he finally gets, when the sun gives him the Goliath whistleblower document, it is so basic. It's so not interesting. It's so not impressive, I guess is what I mean. You know, like, you think it's going to be this big reveal. They've got this cutting-edge software.

And all it is is a bunch of old photos of UFOs from the 50s. But here's what I find to be so fascinating about this filmmaker and the choices that are made. Like, you could still open up six of those files and look at, like, old-timey newspaper clippings or whatever, but have hundreds of files sent over. Yes, right. And yet the choice is like, no, just 12. Yeah.

Just 12. Well, it does feel like the movie does feel like by having Ice Cube as the lead, it's that same way that Liam Neeson action movies function. Like, this is for dads and uncles. Right. And I don't think they wanted to clutter it up too much and to confuse the dad's and uncles. Right. It's just sort of like computers can get you any information, obviously, and Amazon's great to deliver you shit. And your kids are on Facebook being weird, and you got

to monitor them, and you don't know what your kids doing in the next room. And Tesla's are basically ambulances and can save your life. Yes. This is for dads and uncles. This is what this movie is. Oh, my God. Well, it's so funny. So our youngest son came in while I was watching it this morning and goes, oh, what video game is this? Amazing. And I said, oh, no, this is a, feature film. What I also appreciate from that, that's so funny. Knowing both of the people in that story, my wife and my son, is that he

would ever assume that you were up at 6th the morning playing a video game. Like, that would, like, he would have been like, who would I like that you felt like you needed to identify that you knew both of the people in the story, me, your wife and your son. I just want to just say that I go on record and think I know both of them. You know both of the people.

Like, I like that before you, before you provided your anecdote, You were like, just so you know, this is from insider info. I happen to know the person that June is mentioning. He's my son. Yeah, he knows what's up. That was wild. Oh, man.

Oh, man. Oh, God. Oh, this is the thing that was driving me nuts. Clearly, they weren't making the movie together. and everyone says data differently. So it sounds like they're having a fight. So Sandra would say data. Data.

And they'll back, we need the data. These things eat data. Checking the data center. Stand by. Collecting data to get to the data. These little guys are drawn to data. You know, everywhere they've been going, there's a data center. No, the code you will be carrying is data.

What if we starve them out? Take away the data. So we've got to affect all the data centers. Data center? Yeah, data centers. We use the data centers they've connected to his bait and plan an old school rabbit virus to infect the data they're eating. The more data it consumes data data data data data data data data they're eating our data but data's being drained. They're speaking back and forth and it does feel like they're having a pissing contest on how to say it.

Well, and there's only one right way to say it, of course, which is data. Data. Data. Data. Data. Data. Not data. Dada. Oh, do you have that Dada for me? Give me my Dada! Now, where did we ever get to see where those little bugs that were feeding on the Dada went? I mean, they're all over the place. They're attacking Ice Cube when he gets into the Goliath Room, I believe. When those little snake legs pulling.

But they seem to be sweet. Eva Longoria gets them. She traps a couple and she's keeping them as pets, I think. Yeah, I think that that's really what I'm curious about, like, because she's like, oh, I like these little guys. But meanwhile, the scene before, they were crawling all over her. And also, they are, they have blood. Hey, guess what? They also have blood.

So, like, get out of there, Eva. There's so much happening outside. Like, the movie is unquestionably happening outside. Like, aliens are attacking. There's so much happening. And we spend all of our time watching Ice Cube. try and maneuver a cursor. Like that, the movie we're watching is Ice Cube and a computer.

I would love someone to pull some data on how much screen time is devoted to just his screen and moving windows around and answering calls and typing and coding versus like action with people and aliens. Like, I really do need to know because it did feel. like, God damn it, I am watching a computer screen. It's stressful. It was stressing me out. It was stressing me out, too.

Well, I think there's a way that this style or whatever you want to call this can be very interesting. It just didn't really work here. But because I think to use these elements all of the way that we communicate is so smart if you're interested in interrogating how we communicate. Right. This is not doing that. I do want to also bring up that, you know, earlier we'd be talking like, oh, clearly Amazon wanted a lot of product placement.

Would it surprise you to know that this was a movie not made by Amazon? It was made by Universal. It is only being distributed on Amazon. So this is not, this, the Amazon stuff was in there before Amazon was part of it. Yep. I mean, I think that they probably did some sort of branding deal with them. Oh, okay, okay, okay. But it was not like, this wasn't a direct.

It wasn't cooked up by Amazon. No, Universal Studios bought this movie. independently of Amazon. That's shocking. And then maybe that was a backdoor idea, but this is not an Amazon made for Amazon movie. I'm surprised there was not an Alexa moment in this whole thing. I'm shocked that somebody didn't say, Alexa, where are the robots or something?

Alexa, find disruptor. Well, a lot of things, like once they get into audio, because so much of it is video, the movie really falls apart. It's like when he is able to talk through. the Amazon truck. Yeah. Through a system, the speaker system? What speaker?

What speaker? And how does he have, find he's able to, like, connect to the camera? And Mark almost drives off the side of the road. He's so shocked. As he should. Yes. Yes. I mean, just to go back and say, there is a camera in a commercial airliner that just

has footage of like, where's that camera? Well, like, what camera is in a commercial airliner? How come there aren't a bunch of shower cams? If that's what we're showing. That's what he's getting in there early for. Why isn't he in there? Exactly. Checking out shower cams.

Goliath is just, it's a picture of Clark Gregg, unredacted. It's a bunch of pictures from the 40s and 30s of UFOs and then just shower cams. You did not wash your pits. Like, it's like, it's, you know, just like letting them know. But there is something in this movie that's so crazy. Like, you think this is going to be about a movie where we're taking down like a cyber terrorist. somebody who is like that organization that wears the mask. Anonymous.

And that first part of it, when he's getting the warrant, when he's zoning in on the house, when he's finding the block and the apartment building and everything, he's also off checking Facebook in between that. Like, it's like he's not even focused on the task at hand. It's like, okay, we're going to get that warrant. Let me call my daughter real quick. You know, it's like this is, there's an FBI SWAT team standing outside of a building with guns, Ready to go.

I think you don't know what it's like, Paul, to deal with as many windows and drop-down menus and the speed at which he is able to do these things is beyond your wildest imagination. Well, I don't, here's what I'd like to see. And listen, I think Ice Cube is a fantastic actor. I don't think he can type that fast. No one. I didn't believe he could type that fast. No one can. He is a very fast.

Now, I'm a fast typeer. Are you really? Yeah. Did you take a typing class? Yes. Or is this just, oh, you did, okay? I did, yeah. Did you Paul?

No, Paul didn't. Well, can I tell you why? Because when they said, do you want to take a typing class? I'm like, I don't think I'm going to have to use typing in what I'm doing. I was, I was adamant that I was like, yeah, yeah. No, that, please. Like, this is not going to come in handy for me at all. Oh, my God, that's so funny.

I rejected it. I don't think it was even offered to me. It was offered in sixth grade. we all had to learn type in. It's smart. I mean, I... Can I just offer a PSA? Please.

This is a PSA to people that I think maybe generationally we just have forgotten or people don't know. If you have something stuck in your body, like the daughter does in this movie, she has some piece of shrapnel in her leg. Do not pull it out, period. That will make it worse. Make it wrap it tight so that the thing stays in there. Do not pull it.

it out of your body. That's my PSA. Okay. Well, I mean, I think that you're right on the, you're right on the level of Ice Cube. Like, Ice Cube is very much like, don't pull it out. He knows. I do want to also bring up that. Well, I mean, like, my guy applied a tourniquet to her leg. So in the, at the end of the movie, when they're showing the baby shower pictures, she should have lost that leg. That's what a tourniquet does. Yeah, that like, that leg would have been gone. Especially because you have to imagine that after, even after that they, you know, got the virus inside all of the aliens, I think, I don't know. Even after that happened, like, all emergency and, like, medical services must have been down for a really long time.

Like, I can't imagine she got any help. No. You know, so that leg had to come off. Had to go. Had to go. But, you know what? She lived another day. I mean, the fact that she didn't have a miscarriage, honestly, was also pretty impressive.

I mean, for the amount of stress that she went through. I'm shocked that they didn't try and make that the plot line. Right. That she goes into labor and that that is what Ice Cube is monitoring is her giving birth. The final moment of a baby being born would have been pretty great. And then if it got bitten by one of those little bugs. Whoa. First, alien, human, robot hybrid.

I love it. That's the sequel. What the hell is happening here? Boom. Just so you all know, Amazon Prime Air, it has taken flight. It is an active service. Dron delivery system. It is, it is happening in Texas and Phoenix. In like rural areas. Yes. I believe it's happening in areas that are not congested. College Station, Texas and parts of Phoenix. And they're expanding to Kansas City Metro. And 30 minutes or less. And it's only $4.99 extra to get it. But now what can they carry, though? Little boxes. Yeah. I'm looking at the boxes. Like a thumb drive.

If they actually ordered a two terabyte thumb drive, it wouldn't have worked. They're cute. They're bulky, and it doesn't seem to make that much sense. Honestly, it doesn't seem to make any sense. I think it makes sense in areas that are where people are remote. Right. You know, like that it's easier to fly a drone out over agricultural land than it is to send a driver. That I get in the cities, anything like that, absolutely not.

No way. I mean, wow. Oh, wow. But, I mean, like, when I drive around Los Angeles, the city that we all live in, and I see those little guys, those little robots driving around with googly eyes on them or whatever, I'm like, oh, I've already acclimated to this. I've already acclimated to driving around a city and there's just, not just now, not just robots driving around with, I guess, food in them or whatever, instant card or whatever, but also the Waymo's. Driverless cars on the road. I love those. I'm just normalized too now.

I still haven't been in one, but I love the idea. I see, but I'm also a person to understand that little robot. Like, I don't get why. The delivery robot? Yeah, I don't get why. Like, it just seems to me like it's not going to get there quickly. And what am I ordering? And to me, they just look like I feel like people must be using them as toilets.

Well, then they'll have a, they'll have some photo. They will have a video of you shitting in it. And I think then you have to pay for it. I think that's the, that's a service I would sign up for. This is a movie. Can I interrupt you? for just one second. I'm so sorry, Paul, just to go back to the robots, June, would you have ever imagined a world in which, when you said, what is its mission about

the BB8 robot that is rolling around on screen in Star Wars and then the little toy in your home, that now we live in a world where you regularly drive past robots on the streets of Los Angeles. And actually, like what is its mission? The way that the robots, the Los Angeles robots move, is very, similar. The LAR's. It's very similar to BBA. Yeah. You know, and it seems none of us do know what its mission is. I don't know what they're delivering. Yeah. No, I think hot diarrhea. Yeah. I don't know if it's just like if it's food or what's in there. I was having lunch the other day and one just drove right by me. And then we also were in a car the other day where it was causing a traffic intersection backup. Remember the driver is screaming at it? Which I was like, that doesn't really help because. I don't think that they're taking that in. I hope. I don't know. By the way, good.

Good that the residents of L.A. are having road rage against the robots and not each other. Thank you. But I will just say that, you know, was this movie on your radar at all? Because this has been a movie that for the last two weeks I have been getting nonstop text messages about, people like, have you seen it?

Because this is a movie that had a zero on Rotten Tomato. A very hard feat to do is now moved up to 3%. But it is, but a zero is a shocking, for Rotten Tomatoes, a pretty shocking thing. And that was a big talk about it on release, it had a zero. And I think that people are watching it to be like, well, what could it be? And here's what I'll report. Whatever you think, if you've not seen it, and you've just listened to us, it will still shock you. Like, even everything that we've just revealed here, it will still shock you because in this movie,

there are things we can't even get to all of the things that are confounding like the idea you were saying drop down menus there's these type in sometimes search words where it's like terrorist house you know Prius there's so many yeah there's so many good things like that that are just both

what's available in his drop down menus and also what he can type in that is immediately then realized and all of this is happening in real time So, like, they are activating warships. Planes are dropping out of the sky. But, like, this movie happens in 90. This is 90 minutes or it is 12 hours.

I don't know because we never see a time jump. There are no obvious time cuts, but time, I believe, does pass. You know, there's one. Not much. There's one. And I don't remember when it was, but they're waiting for something. And it's like 146 and then it's 217. It's like there's one.

Oh, wow. So it was about 30 minutes. 30 minutes. All right, so there's 30 minutes of unaccounted for. So in that time. It's when everybody in the movie goes and has a dump. I would love it if there was just minutes of the movie where it was just webcam of an empty chair. And finally, Ice Cube returns from the bathroom. Damn.

What did I miss? I have to say, I liked Ice Cube with the gray hair and gray beard. Oh, he's great. I like him in a little. sweater vest in a shirt. And I thought he did a hell of a job for what he had to do. And I wrote down repeatedly throughout that everybody's working so hard at an impossible task.

Yeah. To act, not just to act against nothing, but to act against nothing but have the stakes be so high is impossible. To have it be a world war event and you're just trying to communicate the stakes and severity and scope, but via webcam is absurd. Without any scenic partner, without anybody to work off of or work with, it's just punishing, I felt like, and everybody's doing their best. And I will say this, I have no problem with the acting in this movie whatsoever.

It really is how insane it is. Because when that kid says, I will fly the Amazon drone to your office, he like I believe like I love that side game I love his son like when his son is like dad let me tell you something dad I got to tell you something now I do think that they tease the audience like I'm like oh he's disruptor he's like daddy you got to know what's going I'm like you don't tell me about what I need to know click you know it's like I'm like well we should have just played that up that little twist I also felt like he needed to pay a little bit more attention to his son overall yes his son didn't seem to be as monitored as much as his daughter the daughter it was a little like a little bit creepy seems like he's got something weird going on there he doesn't want her to maybe like she fell in like she became like a substitute for his wife and now you know in some level you know not like you know just like he's being overly protective of her yeah yeah he's definitely monitoring her quite a bit more because i mean to think about him being on facebook so much but not responding to a facebook friend request from four years ago like if you here's what i'd like to see from the baby daddy from the yes from mark why does he hate mark so much. Because Mark calls him pops. When Mark, when he goes... Also, Mark did raw dog his daughter.

Well, but willingly, it was a consensual raw dog. Oh, yeah. For conception, I would imagine. I just didn't know why he hated him so much. Well, and also, like, when everything he does seems to be like,

okay, sir, I'm on it. Like, he says, like, he says, get to her office, whatever it is, wherever her lab is, get to that. And he's like, on it, on my way. It wasn't like a question. It was like, on my way.

That guy leaves his Amazon, but he's working. Okay. So Ice Cube and his son are shown to be expert hacker computer people, right? They are, they can breach any firewall. They can get into any system. Whatever it takes, they can do it. But at the end of the movie, when Ice Cube has to run down to the Goliath room or whatever it is his daughter who has to do all of the hacking yes and she's mounting the computer

and i couldn't figure that out why is she now in charge of um disabling security systems and and finding the key code and blah blah well i don't know i mean the other main issue i had with that that key code is like okay now we're we're to understand that this is 40 feet below the actual Department of Homeland Security, and Goliath is here, and it is, like, the most important piece of data that we have, and they have a camera facing the keypad. Yes. Facing the keypad. And they are able to find out that password in...

Immediately. Less than 30 seconds. Immediately. So why. Wouldn't it have been funny? How great. This is my pitch for the movie. movie, wouldn't it have been great?

And maybe one of our listeners will compile a trailer for this movie that is this, that when he gets, when he finally breaches and gets into the Goliath room, it is just Billy Bob Thornton from the Amazon Prime show, Goliath. It is just what's in there is only the Amazon Prime TV series, Goliath, all seasons. I would have liked it if in the moment he's like, This is too stressful when he pops on Bosch. Oh, got to watch. He's like, Ballard.

He's like, I got to watch my Ballard. I need to, I need her to solve cold cases. Oh, please, please can I be on Ballard, guys? Just if you're listening, Ballard, I just want to be on Ballard. June has heard me ask about Ballard to all the Amazon execs. And they're always like, we're not, yeah, they're like, why are you talking to us about this? Oh, yeah. Let me be Ballard, please, guys, let me be on Ballard.

I just want to, I just want to just help Maggie Q or fight Maggie Q. I just want to know what's up. I just want, Renee Ballard, call me. Oh, my gosh. All right, so let's take a look. Obviously, people had opinions about this movie, a lot of negative ones, but there are people out there that had a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions.

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We don't get to hear it a lot, but I always love it. Amazon. This is an Amazon Prime movie. When we watched it, it was number six of the most watch things on Amazon. Ever? Well, in the top ten right now, like in the area. I see what you mean. Yeah.

And so far, it already has almost 3,000 reviews. And 15% of them are five-star reviews. This first one is from Liam, and the title is Ice Cube has done it again. I like Ice Cube. I like when the president said, I hereby initiate a war of the world, and everyone clapped. And I was happy to see the man next to the tent reject a year's worth of free internet in return for picking up a drone in the middle of a field of lasers,

but quickly changing his mind for a thousand Amazon bucks. I thought that was very realistic. Personally, if someone offered me $1,000 in Amazon bucks, I pretty much do anything they told me, including risking my life. Oh, Liam. Oh, this is stark. Okay. So,

Oh, Liam. Some may say this movie wasn't very good. Do not listen to them. A lot of people don't like aliens. And they give bad reviews to alien movies. There's also a part of the movie where they try to drop two nuclear bombs on top ice cube.

But luckily, he saved himself with three seconds to spare. Lots of Spencer moments. And even a heart-touching ending. Five stars. I don't remember them dropping nuclear bombs. I don't either. Liam is watching this in a different, Liam is also out there thinking that people are bombing,

like critic bombing alien movies. Yeah, I also don't use the term heart touching. No, heart touching is not a thing. Nobody's ever used it. Phil K. writes, surprisingly gripping and good. Wait, is it Phil K. Dick? Yes. That's why it makes this one.

Wow, cool. Surprisingly gripping and good, showing tools we all had to learn to use during COVID, combined with some fancy, probably fictional. government tech. It made this movie even more urgent. The way this combines all types of conspiracy theories, UAP disclosure,

privacy concerns, anonymous disruptor, etc. It actually stands out as a representation of the frantic times we are living in. Times that could become even more frantic. Once you let the format sink in, it's hard to switch off. Wow. Quite an original take on an old story. And in a way,

even scarier because it hits closer to home. It also shows us. us how much we live in a corporate world and the film did not shy away from showing that five stars incredible like they think that that was like a corporate takedown yeah i wonder for for this new generation is this movie their um independence day it might be oh god this one is from an untitled person i think the truth is people are uncomfortable talking about the potential of something going wrong at the hands of our leadership. People are uncomfortable

with the return of Jesus and the end of the world. And people are definitely uncomfortable seeing a black family saved the world. So it could be subconscious, but it's definitely true that this is a good movie with a profound message that left you with something to think about.

Not like those vulgar movies that people get excited about. The title? The truth about the low ratings. Five stars. Wow. Snuck in the Jesus thing in there a little bit. I don't think the movie had that kind of enough. I was like, where are you seeing Jesus inside of this?

I would love that. And then it just finally goes here from Amazon customer. Amazing cyber evasion movie. I think it means invasion. Yeah. The acting was amazing and I liked how it was directed with all the video chatting, et cetera, five stars. And that is just a sample.

of some of the five-star reviews of this film. I mean, maybe Big Government is taking it down. Maybe this is like that movie with Will Smith and the football players, where he was talking about CTE and the NFL kind of squashed it. Yeah, the concussion movie. Maybe Big Government is making us not enjoy this. They kind of hacked into Rotten Tomatoes. Somehow I do believe that the government in this movie is operating more coherently

than the government we're currently living under is? All I'm saying is, if Ice Cube can get into anything, you could definitely hack Rotten Tomatoes. And maybe there's an analyst out there jacking up scores, dropping down scores. You know, he may not like, you know, She Hulk and just getting in there and putting his own issues with it. Just review bombing the woke superhero movies.

I mean, we still, rotten tomatoes are no, we saw what we saw. Yeah. You did see what we saw. We saw what we saw. Yeah, and it is something to see. Like, that's the thing about this movie, I will give it. First of all, nice hour and a half.

Yeah, nice. The time on this was perfect. Perfect. And, you know, it is so wild that it is absolutely something to behold. Yes. Even if you had just watched the opening, just the opening, until those meteors come crashing down. For sure. And the other thing I will say is we didn't talk about, and I'm curious because I am, as we know,

childless and you guys are not as we've established paul does know your son but jason i've offered it to you multiple times you can take any we have two so you can take yeah great again that is such a strange offer um what did you think of the letter he writes to his children at the end of the movie actually that he's trying to write throughout the movie but then succeeds and sends at the end Dear Faith and Dave, being a parent is hard. If I don't tell you this stuff now, I might not be able to tell you later. Protecting my kids was the most important part of my life. But I held on too long.

I was afraid to let you guys grow up. Please forgive my trespass. I promised Mom, I'd keep you safe. but you ended up saving me and your mom would be so proud of her children I know it's true that if I make it through this

it'll be because of you guys just remember I'm with you always It got me I actually yes I did I liked what he said I was so curious about the way that he wrote it

and I think it's because he's so used to like short missives and coding, but there's not a paragraph to be found in there. It's all disjointed sentences, single sentence single sentence ideas. Well, he's, I mean, he is saving the

world at the same time. He does not, he does not have emotional growth. And that's part of it. No. Well, he does end up at the shower at the end, but I think. Sure, with Eva Longoria. And he wore the shirt. The grandpa shark shirt. He wore the shirt, but what would have helped his

growth, I think, is if he ultimately needed to turn off surveillance on his daughter. If he ultimately needed... Yeah. To let go of her and to assume

that she's going to be okay and the decisions she makes like he's not helping her. That never really happens. Wouldn't it have been awesome? And now this is not the movie that we saw, obviously. if the machines come and because they have so much access to the data what if they started sending him messages that sounded like they were from his dead wife whoa you know what I mean like that's what we're living in where AI can spoof any of us because it has access to so many hours of our voices or whatever AI is so powerful the world we live in people are being deceived by AI versions of the people they love yes wouldn't that have been interesting if

The way the machines were trying to obfuscate what they were doing was to have his, suddenly his phone rings and it's his dead wife. Well, again, I ask you, what do the machines actually want to do? Exactly. But they don't, that's the thing. They don't want to do anything because they're not interested in deceiving. They just want to drink the milkshake. Like, we are 7-Eleven and they're coming to drink our data surpies. Like, that's it.

Okay, okay. So this is a big drink. For you, this is about drinking. This is a drink. Either milkshakes or slurpees. Yeah, this is like when... These guys are coming to drink. When Daniel Day-Lewis says, I drink your milkshake, you put that in this movie.

It's like, that's what the aliens is like, I drink your milkshake, but milk is it just to drink our milkshake or is it to survive off of it? Or what is it? Are they taking it somewhere? Are they going to... Yeah, they're doing a better version of what we tried to do here. No, they just are coming to take a drink. It's like we go to a place with a beach to go swimming.

they're like, oh, that planet's got a lot of good data. So it's for fun? You think this is a vacation? I think it's like, hey, it's like a buffet. We're a buffet, and they're going from place to place. Doesn't Brainiac... So when we vacation, we go to, like, museums, so they pick vacation spots for data centers?

Yes. And it's like, I think in my mind, it's like Brainiac. Doesn't Brainiac go around from, like, planet to planet and suck up all their knowledge and then keeps them in little glass jars, like the city... Sort of, yeah. Yeah, you know. That's what's going on here.

This is, these are just thirsty aliens. The aliens. I wish I knew what the alien's plan was. I would have enjoyed, like, that's part of the thing is they're up against an antagonist that is just so, so inscrutable and so unknowable. Yes. You never even really get to see what they look like. Nope, nope.

It's always grainy. They do break off into a capsule at one point, which I thought was cool, but, like, we don't even get to really see them. Well, they couldn't afford that. And also, like, none of the information when he opens the Goliath files and we have obviously these machines have been here. It doesn't help him at all. It's not like, oh, from the 30s, we discovered that they are allergic to, you know, pollen or whatever.

None of it works or helps. I mean, just thankfully his daughter was working on this other virus, the cannibal virus. I mean, I guess all this. Thank God they are as a family so singular in each of their abilities and positions. It's crazy. It really, really is. And I guess the question is, would you recommend this movie to other people to watch? You know what, as I said, there was something to, it is so, again, if only for the first 15 minutes, yeah, I think this is worth getting your eyes on.

I had no problem watching it. I will say even at a tight 90. It went down pretty smooth. It went down smooth, but there was, like, until that third act kicks in. Like, I was like, there's like a little bit of a time where you're like, okay, well, what's happening next? And then once we get into the Amazon Prime, once we get into the Tesla, honestly, we're in great shape. But there's a little bit of time in between. This is the kind of movie that I think absolutely for the sake of the episode, watch it. But also, like, this is the kind of movie that you can watch it while you're making coffee in the morning.

Oh, yeah. Like, it does not demand you turn out the lights and sit down and give it your full attention. It's okay in the background. And you'll enjoy it enough and it will be good for the episode, for this episode. You need to see. You need to see some of it. And I highly recommend everybody in it. I cannot wait to see Andrea Savage.

We have a lunch plan and I am going to find out every detail I possibly can about it. And I'm sure she's also being inundated as people have. So curious. Jason, June, you want to plug anything, June? What do you got? Well, I don't know if it's, I don't know if weapons is still in the movie theaters. But if it is, I definitely recommend that movie and going to see it. It's so much fun to watch with an audience.

Really great movie. So much fun. Jason, what about you? You know what? I don't really have anything, but I'll shout out Taskmaster Season 19 is on YouTube now, so check it out. I love it. I will shout out DarkWeb every Monday on YouTube. Me and Robbie will totally free. Everybody, thank you for listening.

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